Open Thread – Tuesday 17 May 2022


The Triumph of Christianity over Paganism, Gustave Dore, 1865

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m0nty
m0nty
May 17, 2022 12:09 pm

This thread will not be funny either.

jupes
jupes
May 17, 2022 12:11 pm

Dore might need to update that painting. I’m not seeing much of a triumph at the minute.

shatterzzz
May 17, 2022 12:14 pm

Moving time methinx (1) frae the old thread …..
He was obviously quite the lad. A successful gold prospector
We isn’t related are we BON? .. my GG G-daddy (mum’s side) left England (Gateshead/Newcastle) in 1858 for the Bendigo gold-fields and struck it rich in 1861 .. packed up the entire family and back to Tyneside in 1862 .. my G Grandma was born in Oz in 1859 left i 1862 & never returned .. family name was Hall ………

shatterzzz
May 17, 2022 12:15 pm

Moving time methinx (2) frae the old thread …..
Ya gotta wonder at the folks running corflute placement out here in McMahon/Fowler .. now, admittedly, I live on the very edge of both electorates, in fact, I’m in Fowler whist neighbours on either side are in McMahon (don’t ask, I haven’t a clue how it worx .. LOL!) yet still .. the number of houses/premises decked out with “turtle’ & Dai Le signage side by side is ridiculous .. given the “turtle” is running in MCMahon & Dai Le is in Fowler .. strangely, very little KK advertising in this neck of the woods ……. in fact other than “turtle” & DL you’d be left wondering if anyone else is running out here …!

Rossini
Rossini
May 17, 2022 12:32 pm

Forget politics for a moment!!!
Finally made it to the top 10!

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
May 17, 2022 12:42 pm

Top Ten

I am a God

Zipster
May 17, 2022 12:46 pm

yeeha!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 17, 2022 12:49 pm

Here’s one for M0nty.

Trump Crowned MAGA King After Pulling Rittenhouse’s AR-15 From Stone (13 May)

It was fun that the Dems focus grouped “Ultra-MAGA” for 6 months before accusing Republicans of it, only to see Republicans buying lots of Ultra-MAGA t-shirts about three days later.

Bruce in WA
May 17, 2022 12:51 pm

First XI

duncanm
duncanm
May 17, 2022 12:52 pm

From the previous OT

duncanmsays:
May 17, 2022 at 9:14 am

It strikes me that Fairfax has discovered a more than worthy successor to our very own Kaftan Magda.

Not to take anything away from her clear drive and success, but this is what oppression ‘as a woman of colour’ looks like these days.

St George Girls High (a selective public)
School Vice Captain, Sports Captain
..
Represented the University in the Scottish Universities National Rifle Competition via the Glasgow University Rifle Club
..
University of Sydney, Bachelor of Engineering (B.E.) / Bachelor of Project Management, First Class Honours
.. then a career

m0nty
m0nty
May 17, 2022 12:53 pm

Not claiming anyone Monty.
Is it funny?

Sure. Was it a “conservative joke”? That’s a stretch.

He is actually playing a character on stage, a character you are supposed to disagree with. Much like Stephen Colbert when he was on The Colbert Report cosplaying as a right-wing commentator.

The worst reaction I can get for a joke, personally, is silence. If I tell a joke and the crowd is like, “No, no you did not just say that,” then that’s just as good as a laugh. I like getting a little bit of both. I remember one time I was in Houston, and a guy just stood up in the back and he just started screaming at me. He was like, “I don’t agree with you.” He kept screaming, “I don’t agree with what you’re saying, I don’t agree with this.”

I was like, “Of course! You should not be agreeing with it. You should not agree with me, I should not be your hero, but you should be entertained by this.” You should be able to divorce yourself from the reality of it and say okay this guy is putting on a show. Things like that are my favorite, when people just miss the boat entirely.

That liberal in Houston missed the point, but you also miss the point from the other side if you think this character is the hero standing up for the little guy.

P
P
May 17, 2022 12:54 pm

From the old thread –

Anchor What says:
May 17, 2022 at 11:44 am

Morrison’s latest clanger, however, is suggesting that WHO or “world authorities” should be in charge of our pandemic management! That’s just not on.

Would you have a link to this?

Dot
Dot
May 17, 2022 12:58 pm

Those soldiers didn’t die, they left the field of material endeavour.

duncanm
duncanm
May 17, 2022 1:00 pm

Anchor – https://www.northweststar.com.au/story/7741019/pm-spruiks-super-for-housing-and-more-powers-for-health-in-pandemic/

I read that as more WHO power to investigate causes of.. not control management of, pandemics.

“I have been in the vanguard of those moves internationally to ensure that there is greater protection for world health to ensure that those … authorities can come and understand what’s going on and be able to assist countries to be able to prevent the spread and outbreak of major infectious diseases,”

Lysander
Lysander
May 17, 2022 1:04 pm

ABC to create an external “ombudsman” that handles complaints:

https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/federal/abc-s-buttrose-responds-to-criticism-broadcaster-marks-its-own-homework-20220517-p5alyt.html

I’ll believe it when I see it…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 17, 2022 1:10 pm

ABC to create an external “ombudsman” that handles complaints:

Ombudsmen are like “fact checkers” and “disinformation czars”. As soon as a lefty organization appoints one you know it will be used to push exactly the opposite of what the name suggests.

Lysander
Lysander
May 17, 2022 1:15 pm

Yeah Bruce… sounds like theirABC are creating a Ministry of Truth!

MatrixTransform
May 17, 2022 1:16 pm

ABC to create an external “ombudsman” that handles complaints

you should go for that, MUnty

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 17, 2022 1:19 pm

Virtue-signalling divisive screecher takes up job with Biden

aka

Joe Biden new press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre makes her debut at White House
ADAM CREIGHTON

“I am a black, gay, immigrant woman. I am the first of all three of those to stand here,” Karine Jean-Pierre said as she took the podium in the White House to answer journalists’ questions for the first time.

She might have added angry to that list.

Joe Biden’s new press secretary, one of the most high-profile jobs in the US, indeed the world, hails from a far-left Democrat activist background, a ­curious choice for a President who ran on bringing bitterly divided Americans together.

Jean-Pierre has accused at least 50 people and ­organisations for being racist ­between 2015 and 2020 alone, ­according to a recent analysis by the New York Post, including former president Donald Trump, many of his staff and cabinet ministers, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and Fox News.

“If it walks like a racist, talks like a racist, acts like a racist, it is a racist and we have a racist president in the White House who ­really pushes his racism like a peacock,” she said in 2018 of the former president, in remarks unlikely to endear her to a big chunk of the country.

Jean-Pierre, 47, has big shoes to fill, replacing the highly regarded Jen Psaki, 43, who is heading to MSNBC to anchor a TV show, where she is bound to make multiples of the press secretary’s $US180,000 ($257,000) salary.

jupes
jupes
May 17, 2022 1:20 pm

ABC to create an external “ombudsman” that handles complaints:

That will be another $50,000,000 thanks Albo. Kaching!

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 17, 2022 1:20 pm

Those soldiers didn’t die, they left the field of material endeavour.
It’s been said that US Marines don’t die, they just get transferred to new duty stations, either guarding the streets of Heaven or battling demons in Hell.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 17, 2022 1:22 pm

replacing the highly regarded Jen Psaki

LOL!

Bruce in WA
May 17, 2022 1:22 pm

From the OT:

calli says:
the first car will only overtake at the speed limit

Slowvertaking

Drives me crazy.

Love “slowvertaking”. Anyway, happens a fair bit in WA, especially in the south-west, mainly because the coppers like to stick a radar or camera at the end of the overtaking lane and pinch anyone exceeding the speed limit.

Megan
Megan
May 17, 2022 1:22 pm

RussellBrand did a commentary a couple of days ago on the 198 world leaders getting ready to hand pandemic management over to the WHO. A petition for a referendum on it has already been raised in the UK. I looked at Bob Morgan’s lifeboat cartoon in that light.

The fact that Marshmallow Man Morro has mentioned it confirms that he knows about it and is on board.

https://youtu.be/VEV7OLHB7pE

Bruce in WA
May 17, 2022 1:24 pm

Love the word “slowvertaking”, not actually doing it! Just to clarify. I just plant the boot and to hell with it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 17, 2022 1:25 pm

Jean-Pierre, 47, has big shoes to fill, replacing the highly regarded Jen Psaki, 43

Highly regarded? She’s one of the famous Valley Girls. I thought Marie Harf, the other one, might get the job, but she obviously wasn’t black, lesbian and angry enough.

OTOH, maybe our Adam thinks he himself is highly regarded too.

P
P
May 17, 2022 1:30 pm

Thank you for the link at 1:00pm Duncann.
From the NW Star:

Mr Morrison was asked whether he would sign a global treaty if re-elected to give WHO more powers to respond to a pandemic.

“A global treaty”.
I hope it does not refer to this proposed treaty –
A new pandemic treaty: what the World Health Organization needs to do next
March 30th, 2022 – 8 comments

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 17, 2022 1:33 pm

The Bee is brilliant.

How is this for a headline:

White House Press Corps Beginning To Suspect Psaki Isn’t Ever Going To Circle Back To Their Questions

Rabz
May 17, 2022 1:33 pm

the highly regarded Jen Psaki

In what bizarre parallel universe would that be?

Megan
Megan
May 17, 2022 1:38 pm

“A global treaty”.
I hope it does not refer to this proposed treaty

That’s exactly the one.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
May 17, 2022 1:38 pm

m0ntysays:
May 17, 2022 at 12:53 pm

m0nty commenting on humour is like Helen Keller commenting on Broadway musicals.

Lysander
Lysander
May 17, 2022 1:40 pm

Yup Eyrie…. this line is a bit of a giveaway:

“It will take some time … And I have to be honest, we need to find some new materials to achieve [widespread use].”

Lysander
Lysander
May 17, 2022 1:41 pm

Don’t we already have a Global Health Officer?

Sneakers McClown who vowed to “crush the virus???”

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 17, 2022 1:41 pm

At the coffee shop this morning and happened to notice a copy of the Haemorrhoid sprawled on a table like a noodle armed vegan who helped move a piece of furniture.

It said that the ABC was planning on reviewing its complaints handling procedures by creating an internal ombudsman.

So again, the people you are complaining about will assess the merit of the complaint.

I don’t even know why they need an ombudsperson – just a stamp that says ‘No fault found’ given to a gnome already sitting at a desk should suffice.

Lysander
Lysander
May 17, 2022 1:43 pm

Another giveaway about ABC ombudsman is you can only lodge a complaint “if you have an interest in the matter.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 17, 2022 1:48 pm

We already know solar power can be generated at night.

Spanish newspaper El Mundo found that between November and January, 4500 megawatt hours (MWh) of solar energy were sold to the electricity grid between midnight and seven in the morning.

It has been suggested that some plants in the regions of Castilla-La-Mancha, Canarias and Andalucía have been using diesel generators connected to their solar panel arrays to illegally benefit from government subsidies.

Amazing how this works. It’s like all those carbon sink forests you can buy indulgences carbon credits from.

How phantom forests are used for greenwashing (BBC, 3 May)

Who coulda thunk it?

Winston Smith
May 17, 2022 1:48 pm

Milton F:

yes the stupidity of these people burns- spoiled and ignorant. I suppose this is what happens when these people are cocooned from the coal face of the economy- the power station workers, the plumbers and electricians with their 0700 o’clock starts on a cold morning. Too many dilettantes and parasites and it is from this group that the political/media class is drawn.

I hope they like the society they are arguing for when it arrives.
Like Sri Lanka, attitudes change really quickly when the larder is empty.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 17, 2022 1:48 pm

Hi Lysander,

I am sure it said internal.

Perhaps I looked too quickly.

But you have to ask – how does the new arrangement benefit the undergraduate closed shop that is the ABC.

Lysander
Lysander
May 17, 2022 1:51 pm

Sorry Mother (do you think they’ll like this song)

I may also have missed…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 17, 2022 1:55 pm

a massive Russian missile attack upon Lviv

Betcha from subs. They were all spotted leaving Sevastopol on Friday, the whole lot of them.

I suspect that’s a confession of weakness since it suggests the Russians dare not have surface ships in missile range of Odessa. Yet they sorely wish to interdict supplies coming from over the border.

Zipster
May 17, 2022 1:56 pm
Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 17, 2022 1:57 pm

“A global treaty”.
I hope it does not refer to this proposed treaty

That’s exactly the one.

Looking forward to not voting for his lot on the weekend.

Winston Smith
May 17, 2022 1:59 pm

Areff:

I love Ivermectin: areff got me a course of it two weeks ago to get rid of Kung Flu — which it did in three days (in tablet form).

(From Vicki)
Would you mind emailing me? The Doom Lord 2.1 has my email address.

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 17, 2022 2:00 pm

Crikey.com’s reporting* of the surrender of the Ukrainian troops in the Azov steelworks is even more deceptive than the ABC’s:

Wounded Ukraine troops leave steelworks

Ukraine has begun evacuating soldiers from the besieged Azovstal steelworks in Mariupol, where they spent more than 80 days holding out against Russian forces.

That is a blatant lie. Ukraine has not begun evacuating soldiers from the Azovstal steelworks. These soldiers have begun to surrender to Russian forces and are now prisoners of war being held by the Russians. If you want to give maximum agency to Ukraine without being deceptive, you could say ‘Ukraine allowed its soldiers to surrender’ – that would be true. But they are not “being evacuated” or “leaving” the steelworks in any voluntary capacity; they are NOT FREE. They have surrendered to the Russians and are now POWs. Is this simple reality presented anywhere in this article? Nope. Just take a look at the photo of the wounded Ukrainian soldier accompanying the article – this is blatant propaganda.

Again, this is not our war. Our media should not be lying to us in this way. It is unconscionable.

*not that anyone cares much about crikey.com’s coverage of anything much; however, MSN.com is running their article as their lead, so it is getting a lot more eyeballs than an average Crikey article

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 17, 2022 2:02 pm

Ahahahaha. Aaaaaaahahahaha.

Behold our next Prime Minister (the Tele):

Chaos has unfolded at the end of Labor leader Anthony Albanese‘s press conference with him fleeing a chasing press pack after he repeatedly refused to reveal how much his election promises will cost taxpayers.

It comes as Scott Morrison accused Labor of having “completely lost touch” with everyday Australians as the opposition continues to slam the Coalition’s super home buying scheme.

And:

Mr Albanese was desperate to remain in control as he hit with repeated questions on the issue after the Coalition released its full costings on Tuesday.

The Labor leader, tired with the growing interjections from the press pack, then abruptly ended the press conference and stormed out of the room.

Reporters chased him on his way out, firing back questions that he refused to answer.

Meanwhile, an embarrassed WA Premier Mark McGowan held back, and began his own press conference with the travelling media.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 17, 2022 2:05 pm

Panzer, I’m pretty forgiving when it comes to people being annoying on the road.
It’s a bit different when there’s genuine danger.
I think the last time I let rip on the horn (yes, I know, phrasing) was a couple of weeks back when a cab started to change lanes almost into me.
Inches in it.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 17, 2022 2:08 pm

Another giveaway about ABC ombudsman is you can only lodge a complaint “if you have an interest in the matter.”

I take it being a taxpayer, and the ABC supposedly speaking in your name, or misrepresenting your beliefs does not count.

But a grizzled hirsute unbathed welfare hoover at the edge of some small town in Tasmania who grows his own dope with his own personally disgorged manure, who espies a story where a mine development in QLD would save a town and provide much needed resources – but that a surly yellow bottomed gnat habitat could be affected – will succeed in objecting that the story should not have clouded matters with irrelevancies like the saved town or resources.

Then there will be the correction – QLD Mine Threatens Rare Species Habitat!

Rabz
May 17, 2022 2:12 pm

The only way to ensure future complaints about the ALPBC are “appropriately resolved” is for it to be shut down.

There is no other solution, sensible or otherwise.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
May 17, 2022 2:14 pm

Hey Dover, love the painting! Clear view (in the bottom half) of my future home for eternity.
Most of my mates are already there!!!!!

Winston Smith
May 17, 2022 2:20 pm

Lotocoti:

We’d be lucky to achieve three hulls in 15 years, and two of those hulls
would always be in dry dock, thanks to bootstrapping Australian ship building
in marginal electorates.

Does anyone know when we will get some subs for our navy? I’m not hearing much about it since the French Submarine contract was torn up and rightfully so.

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 17, 2022 2:21 pm

Sky News Australia ramps up the propaganda effort:

More than 260 brave Ukrainian soldiers have been evacuated from the Azovstal steel plant in the decimated city of Mariupol after 11 weeks of resistance.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 17, 2022 2:28 pm

Does anyone know when we will get some subs for our navy?
The 32nd of Septober 2037.

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 17, 2022 2:31 pm

Okay, now this is really funny:

Former M16 chief backs claims Vladimir Putin is in poor health following reports president is ‘very ill with blood cancer’

Can you guess who this former MI6 spy chief is?

Christopher Steele, who ran the Russian desk at M16 in London between 2006 and 2009,

They’re using Christopher Steele as a trustworthy authority?? lol

(Does “[running] the Russian desk at MI6” for a few years really make this shyster a one-time “MI6 spy chief”? A matter of opinion, I suppose! My goodness.)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 17, 2022 2:40 pm

So.
Exactly how long were youse going to leave me over on the dead thread talking to myself?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 17, 2022 2:40 pm

Mother do you think they’ll drop the bomb
And ABC admit they’re effin’ wrong
Mother do you think they’d dare return my calls
Oooor uh, will they hide behind their wall

Rather should they hide what’s evident
Hint they only know what people meant
Daggy music while I’m holding on the line
Ooooh aah, is it just a waste of time

Hush now baby don’t you cry
Aunty’s gonna make all of your
Nightmares come true
Aunty’s gonna put all of her fears into you
Aunty’s gonna keep you right here
Trapped in the dark
She won’t let you learn but she’ll prime you to bark
Aunty will keep baby cosy and warm
Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe
Of course Aunty’s gonna make you love the wall

Winston Smith
May 17, 2022 2:41 pm

Vicki:
My question is – did this money actually come from borrowings, and do we actually know the source? Or do we, similarly, “print money”??????
It’s a mental picture, I guess, but works for me:
They just created it and since an economy only has a specific value at any time, they essentially cut little bits off every dollar in circulation and stuck them together to form new banknotes.

duncanm
duncanm
May 17, 2022 2:46 pm

Rabzsays:
May 17, 2022 at 1:33 pm
the highly regarded Jen Psaki

In what bizarre parallel universe would that be?

one of the funniest meme’s I saw recently was along the lines of

The difference between “your” and “you’re”.
(Mcenany) – “When you know your shit”
(Psaki) – “When you know you’re shit”

duncanm
duncanm
May 17, 2022 2:48 pm

Having a little chuckle to myself today over my ‘stranded’ coal investment.

WHC up 267% over the last 12 months.

Its like the titanic was sunk by a gold iceberg

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 17, 2022 2:50 pm

That liberal in Houston missed the point, but you also miss the point from the other side if you think this character is the hero standing up for the little guy.

Nah just jokes.
I don’t have a clue what Anthony Jeselnik’s politics are, that’s the way it should be.
Jimmy Carr has managed to upset the woke crowd and so is on the cancel list. I’d imagine a lot of Cats would find him offensive but they’re not about to silence him for political purposes, and that is the difference.
As Billy Connelly would say “Fuck that”

jupes
jupes
May 17, 2022 2:52 pm

Does anyone know when we will get some subs for our navy? I’m not hearing much about it since the French Submarine contract was torn up and rightfully so.

Apparently, the person heading the AUKUS sub project has been given 18 months to come up with a plan. That is a plan for where and how they are going to build subs, NOT a design plan for the subs. That will start AFTER the 18 months.

Considering it took over five years to NOT design the French sub, I would say there is a fair chance that the next sub will be designed and built in China.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 17, 2022 2:57 pm

Does anyone know when we will get some subs for our navy?

Discussions between an Aussie “working group” and the Brits and the US are “ongoing”, apparantly.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 17, 2022 2:59 pm

duncanmsays:

May 17, 2022 at 2:48 pm

Having a little chuckle to myself today over my ‘stranded’ coal investment.

Here’s the thing.
Why do they pretend to care?
If I invest in coal and it becomes a “stranded asset”, isn’t that just the market at work?
Same as if I buy Bitcoin, Atlassian shares or a breeding pair of racing emus.
My money, my problem.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 17, 2022 3:00 pm

APW wheat is cracking $500 per tonne for delivery up country and more with freight into port. That’s a jump of $40-50 in few weeks.
Seems the grain market has just factored in Odessa being out of business very soon.
We’ve had plague, war and soon famine.
All delivered by horse’s arses and not horsemen.

johanna
johanna
May 17, 2022 3:00 pm

TheirABC’s predictable slant on how the APS handled the infighting in the Coalition about climate hysteria:

In 2018, the Secretaries Group on Climate Risk was told in a “context paper” prepared by public servants that extreme weather was already “overwhelming” the country’s ability to respond to climatic events, meeting minutes obtained by the ABC show.

That was before the Black Summer bushfires of 2019 and 2020 or the various east coast floods this year.

See what they did there?

On we go:

Joelle Gergis, a climate scientist at ANU, said not much creativity was needed to guess what sorts of scenarios the group might have been wargaming.

“We don’t really need to use our imaginations to think about this. I think we’ve had two really clear and stark examples in just the last handful of years,” Dr Gergis said, pointing to the Black Summer bushfires and the 2022 floods.

She said the conditions that led to the Black Summer bushfires would be average conditions by 2040, and 20 years later would be cooler than average.

“It’s sort of like a terrifying glimpse into the future of what we’ll be looking at when we’re talking about increased global warming.”

Joelle Gergis – rings a bell.

Oh yes – she is the co-author of the climate catastrophe paper (with Karoly) that was eviscerated, shredded and blown to smithereens by Steve McIntyre via his pal (whose name momentarily escapes me – Jacques something?) within days of its release. The paper was commissioned by Julia Gillard, and it was rubbish, including schoolboy mathematical errors.

It was the kind of public bollocking that would make any decent researcher crawl into a cave for a decade or two to contemplate his or her failings. Also, funding bodies should put them in the ‘never to be given a brass razoo’ file.

Didn’t happen, of course. Blatant factual errors never prevent promoters of The Narrative from failing upwards.

duncanm
duncanm
May 17, 2022 3:00 pm

Here’s the thing.
Why do they pretend to care?

so they can pressure super funds to remove their investments — crippling the financing of the industry

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 17, 2022 3:01 pm

Top Endersays:

May 17, 2022 at 2:57 pm

Does anyone know when we will get some subs for our navy?

Discussions between an Aussie “working group” and the Brits and the US are “ongoing”, apparantly.

Uh-huh.
So the jollies to the UK and the USA will cease once the “working group” makes a recommendation?
This may take some time, Minister.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 17, 2022 3:01 pm

Herald-Sun survey:

Would you use your superannuation to buy a home?
Yes, it’s a good idea and solid investment 82 %
No, it’s a gamble 18 %
2001 votes

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 17, 2022 3:03 pm

Rabzsays:
May 17, 2022 at 1:33 pm
the highly regarded Jen Psaki

In what bizarre parallel universe would that be?

munty world.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 17, 2022 3:04 pm

Mother Lodesays:
May 17, 2022 at 2:40 pm

Always listen to Mother. I had just been playing it.

rickw
rickw
May 17, 2022 3:06 pm

Munty seems to have gotten dumber since he last stained the pages.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 17, 2022 3:10 pm
jupes
jupes
May 17, 2022 3:10 pm

the highly regarded Jen Psaki

In what bizarre parallel universe would that be?

I regard her highly as a bullshit artist. Imagine having to justify Biden’s policies and decisions every day with a straight face. That could not be easy. Not as hard a job as Biden’s deaf language signer mind you, but a skill that would take years of practice to master I would think.

rickw
rickw
May 17, 2022 3:10 pm

Does anyone know when we will get some subs for our navy?

If you contract me, a couple of months and they may bear more than a passing resemblance to an LPG bullet. Principal weapon likely to be traditional torpedo ie. explosives on a stick.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 17, 2022 3:11 pm

Eyrie

From the ABC babble on night-time solar potential.

After the sun sets and the day darkens, Professor Ekins-Daukes says the potential for solar energy well and truly remains.

“We get energy from the sun — it arrives, it warms up the Earth but then the Earth actually radiates the exact same amount of energy back out into space,” he says.

“As the energy flows from the Earth’s surface … [there is a] thermal emission out into the universe that we can tap.”

Two questions.

First:

If the earth “actually radiates the exact same amount of energy back out into space”, then what causes gerbil worming.

[there is a] thermal emission out into the universe that we can tap

If we “tap” the previously emitted warmth, will this not increase gerbil worming?

Second:

Is this perfesser even more stupid than is usual for climate scientists (and is Their ABC displaying even greater than usual ignorance in its reporting)?

jupes
jupes
May 17, 2022 3:12 pm

Munty seems to have gotten dumber since he last stained the pages.

For some bizarre reason, he thinks we are all Liberal voters here, so he has come back to gloat about the impending Labor victory. Idiot.

Vicki
Vicki
May 17, 2022 3:14 pm

Areff:
I love Ivermectin: areff got me a course of it two weeks ago to get rid of Kung Flu — which it did in three days (in tablet form).
(From Vicki)
Would you mind emailing me? The Doom Lord 2.1 has my email address.

Winston – you would need to contact Areff about that. My Ivermectin is cattle drench, purchased from Ag store. You probably wouldn’t want that!!!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 17, 2022 3:16 pm

Top Endersays:

May 17, 2022 at 3:01 pm

Herald-Sun survey:

Would you use your superannuation to buy a home?

Interesting the way it was worded on SBS last night.
They referred to it as “borrowing” from superannuation.
Your are not “borrowing” from anybody. It is yours.
But, of course, the Industry Super backgrounder given to the SBS reporterette would have been couched in terms of how reckless it would be to allow people access to their own money.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 17, 2022 3:23 pm

rickwsays:
May 17, 2022 at 3:06 pm
Munty seems to have gotten dumber since he last stained the pages.

I’m not sure that is actually possible.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 17, 2022 3:28 pm

So the jollies to the UK and the USA will cease once the “working group” makes a recommendation?

Probably looking forward to Paris in the summertime. Flight bookings next Monday…

will
will
May 17, 2022 3:33 pm

My question is – did this money actually come from borrowings, and do we actually know the source? Or do we, similarly, “print money”??????

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The Reserve Bank Of Australia (RBA) is the banker for the Federal Govt. You may recall the olden days when your tax refund was a cheque drawn on the RBA. These days, it is all EFT (electronic funds transfer)

The sneeky process is this: the government issues Treasury Bonds, as a debt instrument. The RBA buys the Bond by crediting the governments bank account, and the Bond becomes an asset to the RBA. The government can then spend the money at will. Rinse and Repeat. It would be the same for the USA; so a lot of government debt is actually with the Central Bank.

The RBA can also pump liquidity into the economy by buying previously issued government bonds from banks and financial institutions, to give them cash to cover any liquidity crisis, or just cause.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 17, 2022 3:44 pm

Chaos has unfolded at the end of Labor leader Anthony Albanese‘s press conference with him fleeing a chasing press pack after he repeatedly refused to reveal how much his election promises will cost taxpayers.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D9I4nZx8UCs

Cassie of Sydney
May 17, 2022 3:47 pm

Tim Blair’s opinion piece in today’s Telegraph……

Tim Blair looks into crystal ball of post-election possibilities for the political landscape

Australia will be a different place following Saturday’s vote. Tim Blair runs through the range of potential outcomes, and looks at how life might change under each.

Every single poll, including a seat-by-seat YouGov analysis, puts ­Anthony Albanese in the Lodge and Labor on the government benches for the first time since Kevin Rudd received his election eviction ­notice in 2013.

So it’s reasonable to assume a Labor win. Expect Albanese to be hailed by Labor tragics as a kind of superman, at least for a while, until everybody remembers he’s just Albo. Shouldn’t take long.

Also expect Albanese’s popularity to pick up once parliament resumes because he’s a much better performer inside the house than out. As we’ve discovered during this campaign, the Labor leader’s away-game form is lamentable.

An early challenge for Labor may be keeping a lid on election triumphalism. We could see one or two apologies from junior Laborites for excessively enthusiastic or ill-considered social media outbursts.

Depending on the scale of their defeat, the Liberals will probably elect either Josh Frydenberg or Peter Dutton to replace Scott Morrison as leader. Obviously there may be issues of availability.

If things turn really sour they might be picking a leader from outside the current cabinet – which might not be altogether a bad thing. A Coalition government that loses to Anthony Albanese truly deserves to lose.

Any teal ladies who get elected can settle down for three straight years of voting with Labor and talking about climate change, which is what they do anyway, except we’ll now be paying them for it.

Overall, Labor in its first term will likely be a little less competent than the Coalition and a whole lot more woke. Just how much so was hinted at last week by shadow foreign affairs Minister Penny Wong.

“If elected,” Wong told the National Press Club on Friday, “Labor will deliver a First Nations foreign policy that weaves the voices and practices of the world’s oldest continuing culture into the way we talk to the world, and in the work of the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade.”

Why stop there? I’d very much enjoy a First Nations taxation policy. Abolish the colonialist oppressor’s entire tax system immediately, you racists.

Or at least reduce the top marginal tax rate from 45 per cent. You know, in the name of Indigenous justice.

HUNG PARLIAMENT

To the immense shock of absolutely nobody all the teal ladies who make it to parliament will – following perfunctory chats with the Coalition, for appearance’s sake – support a minority Labor government.

It’ll be a one-in, all-in affair, because Simon Holmes a Court’s climate “independents” are the most rigidly disciplined party in recent Australian political history.

Deviation from policy is probably punishable by something unimaginably cruel. Being put on a dinner party do-not-invite list, perhaps.

Forming government with teal support would enable Anthony Albanese to rule without breaking his vow to not negotiate with the Greens.

Instead he’d be Prime Minister thanks to people with policies identical to those of the Greens. It’s a funny old world.

Not that the Greens themselves would be amused. Imagine being the primary climate crazy party for decades, only to be put in the shade by a mob of fancy gals who only got ­together yesterday.

Adam Bandt will be one unhappy bunny. Speaking of Bandt, whatever the result he’ll publicly hail it as a Greens triumph. This is a sacred Greens tradition going right back to the days of Bob Brown.

COALITION WINS A CLEAR MAJORITY

The polls got it wrong again; Scott Morrison scores a second miracle ­victory.

Well, it could happen, although Labor’s advantage this time around is significantly larger than in 2019. Also, for all Albanese’s faults, he isn’t Bill Shorten.

But put all of that aside and ­consider a re-elected Morrison ­government.

Labor deputy leader Richard Marles mentioned the post-traumatic stress disorder endured by his party three years ago. If a Coalition win somehow happens again Labor will be ordering antidepressants by the ­trainload.

Defeated teal “independents” might be so distressed they’ll mistakenly order sheets with a mere three-figure thread count.

And the ABC will commence official mourning.

The wails from Radio National would be so loud that electronic transmission won’t be required. ­Patricia Karvelas’ listeners will be able to pick her up just by opening a window.

It’d all be music to Liberals, but pause for a moment and think about the direction of the party under a second term of Prime Minister Morrison.

A Coalition win would convince the party that their Labor-lite approach was right all along.

Declining to defend free speech, walking away from culture wars, increasing ABC funding, signing up for net zero, deporting Novak Djokovic because Australians who saw him play tennis might decide to somehow get de-immunised … having been rewarded, all of these strategies would be reinforced and repeated.

For conservatives playing a long game it might be just as well that a Coalition triumph is only an outside chance.

Then again, Rich Strike won the Kentucky Derby this month at odds of 80-1. Echoing Morrison’s 2019 ­victory speech, trainer Eric Reed ­referred to the win as “an absolute miracle”.

johanna
johanna
May 17, 2022 3:55 pm

Tim Blair puts all the overpaid ‘political editors’ in the shade.

Cassie of Sydney
May 17, 2022 4:05 pm

“Tim Blair puts all the overpaid ‘political editors’ in the shade.”

Yep.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
May 17, 2022 4:08 pm

Blair is brilliant.

A Coalition government that loses to Anthony Albanese truly deserves to lose.

Winston Smith
May 17, 2022 4:12 pm

Duncanm:

I read that as more WHO power to investigate causes of.. not control management of, pandemics.

Then we get to read the fine print – just like our own Emergency Management.
No.
I wouldn’t trust the bastards as far as I could spit a dead rat.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
May 17, 2022 4:21 pm

Another academic spruiking for grants:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-17/australian-researchers-show-solar-power-can-be-generated-at-nigh/101070388?utm_source=abc_news_web&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_web

Already been done.
From 2010

Spanish newspaper El Mundo found that between November and January, 4500 megawatt hours (MWh) of solar energy were sold to the electricity grid between midnight and seven in the morning.

It has been suggested that some plants in the regions of Castilla-La-Mancha, Canarias and Andalucía have been using diesel generators connected to their solar panel arrays to illegally benefit from government subsidies.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
May 17, 2022 4:24 pm

BON
Bested me at 1:48

miltonf
miltonf
May 17, 2022 4:31 pm

Thanks for posting Cassie.

miltonf
miltonf
May 17, 2022 4:33 pm

A Coalition government that loses to Anthony Albanese truly deserves to lose.

This is true but we don’t deserve anal either.

Winston Smith
May 17, 2022 4:36 pm

Jupes:

Apparently, the person heading the AUKUS sub project has been given 18 months to come up with a plan. That is a plan for where and how they are going to build subs, NOT a design plan for the subs. That will start AFTER the 18 months.

I guess the expression of “A sense of urgency” isn’t in their vocabulary?

Winston Smith
May 17, 2022 4:41 pm

Sancho Panzer:

So the jollies to the UK and the USA will cease once the “working group” makes a recommendation?
This may take some time, Minister.

I just don’t believe these people.
Sack everybody whose signature appears on the paperwork.
Close the entire project down.

I’ve got to go and kill some weeds before I say something that will get me incarcerated.

MatrixTransform
May 17, 2022 4:42 pm

Is this perfesser even more stupid than is usual for climate scientists (and is Their ABC displaying even greater than usual ignorance in its reporting)?

I’m afraid it’s both

…but you already knew that

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
May 17, 2022 4:45 pm

Sleazie running away, again. Surely punters will notice this – or not.

Labor leader Anthony Albanese has fled a chasing press pack after he repeatedly refused to reveal how much his election promises will cost taxpayers.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
May 17, 2022 4:48 pm

Authorities: Hate against Taiwanese led to church attack

A gunman motivated by political hatred against Taiwan chained shut the doors of a California church and hid firebombs inside before shooting at a gathering of mostly elderly Taiwanese parishioners, killing a man who tackled him and possibly saved dozens of lives, authorities said Monday.

David Chou, 68, of Las Vegas — a U.S. citizen who authorities say grew up in Taiwan

jupes
jupes
May 17, 2022 4:55 pm

I guess the expression of “A sense of urgency” isn’t in their vocabulary?

Yeah it’s not as if the Chicoms are getting belligerent or anything.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 17, 2022 4:56 pm

Winston

I guess the expression of “A sense of urgency” isn’t in their vocabulary?

It is, but you spelled it differently. They spell it “manana”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 17, 2022 5:04 pm

m0ntysays:

May 17, 2022 at 12:09 pm

This thread will not be funny either.

Depends how long you hang around for, I guess.

Diogenes
Diogenes
May 17, 2022 5:07 pm

Your are not “borrowing” from anybody. It is yours.

You missed the detail, that if a house is purchased with super money, then when it is sold the amount withdrawn is to be repaid, so yes in essence you are borrowing from yourself.

One question though, if it really is MY money as Scummo keeps saying, why can’t I say I want it all now and stop putting more in under duress.

John Sheldrick
May 17, 2022 5:12 pm

Back to the ABC and the 730 Report.

Their caption says it all. 7/30……………

The ABC only gets 7 out of 30 for its overall performance. In which case, the $1 Billion that the ABC receives each year should now be reduced accordingly. 7/30ths of $1 Billion equates to $233,333,333.33 pa.

Now, that should fix it………………..

Diogenes
Diogenes
May 17, 2022 5:18 pm

so they can pressure super funds to remove their investments — crippling the financing of the industry

When I joined my current super fund a received a phone call from one of their advisers to ensure the option I chose was in line with my goals. They were were taken aback when I asked if the had an option that invested in arms, coal, tobacco and oil companies as these are all making out like bandits and should give me a high rate of return. The stupid woman tried to convince me an ethical fund was a good match, and was taken even more aback when I reminded her that the object of the super fund was supposed to make ME as much money as they could, not make them feel good about themselves and keep costs to an absolute minimum in doing so.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
May 17, 2022 5:21 pm

“If elected,” Wong told the National Press Club on Friday, “Labor will deliver a First Nations foreign policy that weaves the voices and practices of the world’s oldest continuing culture into the way we talk to the world, and in the work of the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade.”

What the flying duck is a “First Nations foreign policy”?
Given that the so-called “First Nations” ended up with all their land being seized by a foreign oppressor in return for their chiefs getting beads and trinkets it doesn’t sound like a particularly promising…
Ah! “Belt and Road”! Now I get it.

Zipster
May 17, 2022 5:21 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 17, 2022 5:23 pm

Diogenessays:

May 17, 2022 at 5:07 pm

Your are not “borrowing” from anybody. It is yours.

You missed the detail, that if a house is purchased with super money, then when it is sold the amount withdrawn is to be repaid, so yes in essence you are borrowing from yourself.

I just don’t like the term, because it sort of heads down the path of suggesting that the money belongs to either the fund manager or the government.
It might seem like semantics, but we have heard similar fast and loose comments about superannuation before. For example, suggestions it be used for various masturbatory nation building purposes. Er, if super investors think that is an attractive investment they will apply their money to it voluntarily.

One question though, if it really is MY money as Scummo keeps saying, why can’t I say I want it all now and stop putting more in under duress

I don’t have a massive issue with that, as there are tax concessions attached to contributions and earnings as a trade off.
I am not too fussed about under 35’s accessing it and re-contributing when they sell the house.
As alluded to by Rosie earlier, the biggest leakage in super is the preservation age/OAP age gap which encourages people to spend super unwisely to sneak under OAP assets test limits.

Zipster
May 17, 2022 5:23 pm

SARS-COV2 (virus causing COVID-19) has the ability to replicate in bacteria!
This critical work by Dr Carlo Brogna (Italy) has demonstrated that SARS-COV2 can replicate in human and bacterial cells.

lotocoti
lotocoti
May 17, 2022 5:24 pm

a massive Russian missile attack upon Lviv

No point Grumbling to their air defence supplier.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 17, 2022 5:25 pm

This is true but we don’t deserve anal either.

That’s what Chloe says too.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 17, 2022 5:27 pm

The ABC only gets 7 out of 30 for its overall performance. In which case, the $1 Billion that the ABC receives each year should now be reduced accordingly. 7/30ths of $1 Billion equates to $233,333,333.33 pa.

Bwah ha ha ha ha.
Given they are all Arts and J’ism graduates, you could get away with it by telling them …
“Hey! Excellent news! There has been a positive* adjustment in the ABC’s budget from a mere $1 billion to $766,666,667!”.

(* Positive for the taxpayer)

miltonf
miltonf
May 17, 2022 5:28 pm

Worth reposting. Daniel Greenfield as brilliant as ever. We are seeing in the US a complete breakdown of society, the economy and the rule of law. What a foul, evil old man is the incontinent corruptocrat.

WHO’S PAYING PROTESTERS TO HARASS JUSTICES AND CHURCHES?
Daniel Greenfield May 16, 2022
Supreme Court justices have faced harassment and intimidation after a pro-abortion group calling itself Ruth Sent Us posted a map to their homes.

Justice Alito and his family, who wrote the draft opinion on abortion that had been leaked by leftists, have had to go into hiding at an undisclosed location.

Had conservative protests outside the homes of Sotomayor and Kagan led one of them to go into hiding, the FBI would already be on the case and the media would be calling it an insurrection and a threat to democracy, but it’s not political terrorism when leftists do it.

So you can be confident that none of the leftists threatening Supreme Court justices will themselves face justice. And if a single one of them is arrested, they will immediately have the best lawyers and a media press campaign claiming that free speech is being silenced.

Just to add bigoted intimidation of houses of worship, Ruth Sent Us also called for protests at Catholic churches. “Stand at or in a local Catholic Church,” it urged on its Twitter account.

While over the past two years, Big Tech companies have suspended or deplatformed conservative groups over the encouragement of political protests, including against lockdowns, Twitter has no problem with leftists encouraging the harassment of houses of worship.

“Do you dare to chant in your local churches?”

Abortion activists dressed like characters from the faltering Hulu TV show The Handmaid’s Tale disrupted prayer services while chanting their support for the murder of babies.

Despite the harassment of justices and churches, Ruth Sent Us retains all of its social media accounts. Neither Facebook, TikTok nor Twitter have deplatformed the hate group.

Who is behind Ruth Sent Us?

It certainly isn’t Ruth Bader Ginsburg, after whom the group is named, who would have been disgusted by the harassment of her colleagues. Ginsburg had been a good friend of the late Antonin Scalia and had been critical of Roe v. Wade’s unsustainable expansiveness. Alito’s leaked draft even quotes her. While Ruth Sent Us falsely claims that Gingsberg believed that, “black lives matter”, the former justice was actually harshly critical of anthem protests.

She would have been even less fond of harassing justices in their homes.

Ruth Sent Us is meant to appear grassroots. In reality, it’s interlinked with a much larger network of leftist organizations. The site was registered by Sam Spiegel, the director of digital media at an anti-Trump PAC known as Unseat whose email contact is listed as Vigil for Democracy.

Unseat and Vigil for Democracy also appear to share a post office box in Palo Alto, California.

Vigil for Democracy, another anti-Trump group, had organized previous Supreme Court rallies.

Ruth Sent Us promotes activism through something called Strike for Choice which its Twitter account describes as “one of the national strikes under the Vigil For Democracy umbrella.”

Strike for Choice solicits donations to pay protesters, asking potential donors “would you commit to donating $58 [$7.25], $80 [$10] or $120 [$15] to support a person giving up paid work?”

The protest fundraising is being conducted through Open Collective, a leftist financial sponsor, which had previously partnered with the Digital Infrastructure Fund backed by $605,000 from the Ford Foundation, $50,000 from leftist Persian billionaire Pierre Omidyar, and $100,000 from George Soros’ Open Society Foundation.

Most early Vigil for Democracy events took place in San Francisco and the group still appears to be centered around the Bay Area. Vigil appears to be obsessed with “desegregating Foothills Park”, also the particular fixation of Vara Ramakrishnan, a tech CEO’s wife and a member of Raging Grannies who had organized previous protests, and has been described as a Vigil for Democracy “volunteer”. While her husband only made a single political donation to Kamala Harris, Vara is a frequent donor to Democrats including Hillary Clinton and Obama.

Both Obama and Hillary have yet to condemn the attacks on the Supreme Court.

While the Vigil for Democracy people have engaged in frequent protests, Ruth Sent Us is a significant escalation, harassing multiple justices and an entire religious denomination.

Ruth Sent Us are not the only leftists promoting the harassment of churches and justices.

A protest at Justice Alito’s house for example was promoted by Shut Down D.C., a group linked to environmentalists and unions.

It’s unclear exactly who is behind Ruth Sent Us and the network of organizations around it, but that network is able to utilize the tools of left-wing groups and is fundraising to pay protesters.

What is clear is that like so much of the leftist radicalism in this country, the attacks on justices and churches are being organized out of the Bay Area. And the Biden administration has repeatedly refused to condemn the harassment and intimidation by its political backers.

Much as Black Lives Matter was able to stage nationwide riots that destroyed neighborhoods, assault innocent people, and take lives without facing any consequences, Ruth Sent Us and other pro-abortion leftist radicals enjoy immunity from trying to stop a judicial ruling.

Threatening judges in ordinary civil and criminal cases leads to harsh sanctions. Mere witness tampering alone is a serious matter. But here leftists are threatening the highest court in the land in order to force it to change its ruling in a case and they are doing so under the protective political and economic umbrella of the White House, of Big Tech, and of the media.

They’re harassing the highest court in the land because they know that nothing will happen to them. It’s not an “insurrection” when leftists do it.

San Francisco-San Jose really needs to excised from the US.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 17, 2022 5:28 pm

Next week we’re all on a Young Labor camp.

Delta A
Delta A
May 17, 2022 5:29 pm

willsays:
May 17, 2022 at 3:33 pm

Thanks for that explanation, will. Just a few questions, if you don’t mind*.

the government issues Treasury Bonds, as a debt instrument.

How is the value of treasury bonds determined? And where does the money to buy/sell those bonds come from? From where do they actually originate?

Finally, can the government or RBA just print money at whim? And why/why not? TIA of your reply.

*If my questions are too embarrassingly silly, just scroll past.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 17, 2022 5:32 pm

H B Bearsays:

May 17, 2022 at 5:25 pm

This is true but we don’t deserve anal either.

That’s what Chloe says too.

Chloe on the karaoke stage on Saturday night.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 17, 2022 5:34 pm

H B Bearsays:

May 17, 2022 at 5:28 pm

Next week we’re all on a Young Labor camp.

Shhh.
That sort of talk will attract Breivik fanboi TailGunner back.

Harlequin Decline
May 17, 2022 5:37 pm

I had the misfortune to leave Oz via Sydney International airport yesterday. To describe the experience as Third World is an insult to to Third World countries.

A bit of buggerising around checking in but not too bad.

The problem was immigration and security. The fast track lanes were closed so no matter whether economy, business or first class it was equal misery.

The automatic passport control was deliberately limited because security couldn’t handle the output volume from immigration. The combined queue length of immigration and security was around 1km. The queue for security alone was the length of the hall (100m+)wrapped around 6 times.

It took over an hour to get through.

In 50 years of air travel it was the worst departure experience I have had. Shithouse arrival experiences are expected from time to time but departure should be straight-forward.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 17, 2022 5:37 pm

If you want to give maximum agency to Ukraine without being deceptive, you could say ‘Ukraine allowed its soldiers to surrender’ – that would be true.
Huh?
Ukraine didn’t give them permission to surrender.

m0nty
m0nty
May 17, 2022 5:38 pm

Justice Alito and his family, who wrote the draft opinion on abortion that had been leaked by leftists, have had to go into hiding at an undisclosed location.

No, I don’t think they have. Ben Shapiro started that rumour but it remains just a rumour. But hey, what is truth anyway, you have a good story to tell.

Delta A
Delta A
May 17, 2022 5:41 pm

I wouldn’t trust the bastards as far as I could spit a dead rat.

Crikey, Winnie. That’s gonna put me orf me dinna.

Roger
Roger
May 17, 2022 5:42 pm

“If elected,” Wong told the National Press Club on Friday, “Labor will deliver a First Nations foreign policy that weaves the voices and practices of the world’s oldest continuing culture into the way we talk to the world…

I’d venture to suggest that there is no longer any indigenous person on this continent that lives in the way their ancestors did before white settlement. It is not a “continuing culture”, then, but like all cultures it retains some old features and adopts new ones as it adapts to the passing of time and new circumstances. Oh…and its followers are not beyond making stuff up out of thin air and calling it “culture” for a variety of reasons, mostly to do with the white fella.

Indolent
Indolent
May 17, 2022 5:44 pm

Morrison’s latest clanger, however, is suggesting that WHO or “world authorities” should be in charge of our pandemic management!

So SloMo isn’t satisfied with Andrews and McClown running the ‘pandemic’, he now wants to hand it over to the Chicoms! If this report is true, the dickhead shouldn’t just be tossed out of government, he should be in jail.

I have a clip (unfortunately no link, but it was a media event) of Morrison stating that he was in favour and was, in fact, proud to be one of the instigators.

Indolent
Indolent
May 17, 2022 5:46 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 17, 2022 5:49 pm

Touring notes: yesterday Hairy exercised free rein over the day and so we did an awful lot of driving, but he thoughtfully included some places I too wanted to see. We headed from Wroxham near Norwich over to the coast to Cromer, a seaside town, named I think after the old Irish/Brythonnic god Crom. Crom as a god is known as ‘the dark god’, so I think he is simply an inflection of the ancient father god, made a devil in the Christian view. I discovered there from another reference that the Old Norse for sea is Merr, and thus I deduce that Crom/Merr refers to the sea aspects of this ancient god, from Cromer is a clear contraction of these two terms. The cliffs and sands around there are impressive, an excellent spot to name in honour of a significant deity. Perhaps too this is because some of the beaches are nothing but massive heaped wave-rounded stones, which are used in most of the local buildings for walls, set in concrete, in a manner such as we saw also at the Roman fort of Caster the day before.

We then moved up the coast to look at an area of heathland above another village where some Neolithic barrows are listed in the book I purchased at the Stonehenge exhibition. The barrows were indistinct and covered in prickly yellow gorse, so we gave up on them. Gorse is a weed, like Prickly Pear is in Australia but environmentalists like it as shelter for small animals. We pass a golf course where there is a lot of it and Hairy expresses his lack of desire to play a game there. Gorse, he tells me in his deadpan way, is well-known to attract golf balls.

We lunch with our M & S picnic at another seaside town sitting on a bench in a howling gale on the clifftops, with drab weather. This is fun, I say, so we only eat half of our food and drive off. We stop at a lovely old large and well-kept mainly C14th church where I put down five pounds for two cards, one with a beautiful prayer, which I have left in the car so I can’t yet offer it to Christian Cats for worship and to other Cats for contemplation. Their notice says that it costs a thousand pounds a week (no, it doesn’t, says Hairy) to maintain this church. Every little bit helps, I say as I donate, quoting the Waitrose mantra, hoping to assist this Parish of the Eight Saxon Shore Churches.

I have expressed to Hairy an interest in Brancaster, another Roman ‘caister’ in the territory of the Iceni tribe, a ‘caister’ named after the one-eyed Raven God Bran. Bran means ‘raven’ in Brythonic, so no prizes for guessing who imho. This elegant coastal town sits at the apex of the Saxon shoreline, at the very scenic entrance to that enormous geographic indentation on Britain’s map that we all know as ‘The Wash’. This is the place (more or less), as that famous history ‘1066 and All That’ reminds children and remembering adults, where King John lost his best clothes in the wash. Sadly there is nothing at all left of the Roman fort site. In the headland park though where we completed our lunch in the bright late afternoon sunshine is a ‘wolf trek’ for children, a series of Viking Ship plaques which lead to a C12th archway, the last remains of a monastery to St. Edmund the Martyr in a garden on the very top of the point. He who was the young Saxon King Edmund, King of East Anglia, was the one shot through with arrows by Viking incomers for refusing to deny his Christian faith. Mythology has it that Stephen’s beheaded head was found and kept safe by a friendly wolf in the forest where it had been tossed. Syncretism much? A wolf protector, a severed head of a king, in a forest like the head of the ancient Green Man? St. Edmund was Britain’s protector king until St. George took over the role – and that for me is a story for another day!

I’d highly recommend the drive up the Norfolk coast to the Wash, regardless of any historical interests you may have. It is lovely, full of small seaside downs and bucket and spade British.

will
will
May 17, 2022 5:50 pm

How is the value of treasury bonds determined?

Treasury Bonds have a face value and a coupon rate of return, and a maturity date. Treasury determines these; or alternatively can be auctioned off to the open market to determine the rate of return. The RBA will underwrite or buy whatever Treasury issues.

And where does the money to buy/sell those bonds come from? From where do they actually originate?

The RBA credits the governments bank account and debits the RBA asset account, so their accounts balance.

The money is now 1s and 0s in the governments account and they can spend spend spend. Neat huh? Where does it come from? a ledger entry. Central Banks around the world now have piles of government paper sitting on their balance sheets as assets. Governments have unlimited cash.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 17, 2022 5:52 pm

It takes real effort to fuck up departures. I’ll add it to my series “Why do people live in Sydney?” which commences production as soon as the Australia Council pull their finger out.

Indolent
Indolent
May 17, 2022 5:53 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 17, 2022 5:53 pm

oops. That’s Edmund’s beheaded head, not Stephens.

Don’t know from what part of my brain Stephen suddenly popped up there.

miltonf
miltonf
May 17, 2022 5:55 pm

Cromer = crow water. Anglo Saxon. I may be wrong.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 17, 2022 5:55 pm

That’s also ‘towns’ not ‘downs’, although the downs are there and lovely too.

I think when I am in a hurry I save time by not proof-reading, but what a fallacy that is.

lotocoti
lotocoti
May 17, 2022 5:57 pm

the world’s oldest continuing culture

Presumably that Wong chap was talking about the Celestial Kingdom.
Unless we’re supposed to believe the local indigenous personnel of Karratha
were culturally identical to those in the Tamar valley.

Delta A
Delta A
May 17, 2022 6:03 pm

Again, thank you, will.

Your response has sparked several more questions in my mind, but I’ve bothered you enough tonight.

I never studied economics at school – it wasn’t an option 50 years ago – but I’m curious. Please can you recommend a book or video which will cover these topics, preferably in language as concise and informative as yours.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 17, 2022 6:03 pm

I have a clip (unfortunately no link, but it was a media event) of Morrison stating that he was in favour 

Any hints about where to search for it?
I mean, the internet is forever.
It’s got to be somewhere, you’d think.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 17, 2022 6:04 pm

I never studied economics at school –

This is a good thing.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 17, 2022 6:07 pm

Albanese storms out of presser
Jess Malcolm
JESS MALCOLM

Anthony Albanese has stormed out of a press conference after he was asked multiple times by journalists whether fiscal deficits would be higher under an elected Labor government.

Campaigning in the marginal Perth seat of Hasluck alongside West Australian premier Mark McGowan, the Opposition Leader became increasingly angered by questions on Labor’s costings.

The Australian asked Mr Albanese whether he could be “fair dinkum” to the Australian people and confirm whether Labor’s deficits over four years would be higher or lower than the Coalition’s.

Mr Albanese reiterated that Labor’s costings would be released on Thursday and signalled he would have “more to say” on the topic during his address to the National Press Club tomorrow.

One journalist pointed out that this would give voters just 48 hours to ascertain whether they preferred the Coalition’s or Labor’s spending choices ahead of voting on Saturday.

The press pack was not satisfied with Mr Albanese’s answers, and continued to press the Labor leader arguing that he had not answered the question.

Mr Albanese took just eight questions, before abruptly ending the press conference and walking off.

Attempting to make a hurried exit, Mr Albanese was chased down by several reporters, who called on him to be upfront with voters.

“We are following you for answers, Mr Albanese and you are now just not giving them,” one reporter said.

Mr McGowan was left standing at the podium in front of the microphones to answer any follow-up questions journalists may have had. He was left to awkwardly watch on, remarking, “I will just wait until this madness finishes”.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 17, 2022 6:10 pm

I have a clip (unfortunately no link, but it was a media event) of Morrison stating that he was in favour and was, in fact, proud to be one of the instigators.
So it’s more of your bullshit, then.

rickw
rickw
May 17, 2022 6:11 pm

In 50 years of air travel it was the worst departure experience I have had. Shithouse arrival experiences are expected from time to time but departure should be straight-forward.

Airside ground operations are complete chaos according to my sources. Experienced people either went looking for more stable work or got sacked.

Roger
Roger
May 17, 2022 6:15 pm

Morrison’s latest clanger, however, is suggesting that WHO or “world authorities” should be in charge of our pandemic management!

A gloabl pandemic response plan was first put forward by Bill Gates (c. 2015), whose foundation is a large donor to the WHO.

As I’ve said before, I’m not given to conspiracy theories, but there’s certainly no shortage of material for those who are to work with.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 17, 2022 6:15 pm

Dickless

Ukraine didn’t give them permission to surrender.

Evidence?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 17, 2022 6:16 pm

So it’s more of your bullshit, then.

Steady Eddy.
I am sure it is out there.
If Indolent can remember when, where, etc etc, it makes searching easier.

Delta A
Delta A
May 17, 2022 6:17 pm

I never studied economics at school –

This is a good thing.

Sancho, in all honesty, I never studied much of anything in high school. I hated school and became a talented truant until my fifteenth birthday, when I was out of there in a flash. Fortunately, I was always a competent fiction writer and so I finagled an interview, then a placement, for a ‘direct entry’ teacher.

Then followed year upon year of night study until I gained teaching qualifications, while by day, I enjoyed the most wonderful, rewarding career.

Very lucky am I.

Roger
Roger
May 17, 2022 6:17 pm

I never studied economics at school – it wasn’t an option 50 years ago – but I’m curious. Please can you recommend a book or video which will cover these topics, preferably in language as concise and informative as yours.

Without scrolling further up for context…didn’t Steve Kates put out such a book?

rickw
rickw
May 17, 2022 6:18 pm

CUBA On Brink of ECONOMIC COLLAPSE. Food & Oil SHORTAGES, Power BLACKOUTS & Out of CURRENCY

Munty flying there to offer advice?

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 17, 2022 6:19 pm

munty

No, I don’t think they have. Ben Shapiro started that rumour but it remains just a rumour. But hey, what is truth anyway, you have a good story to tell.

What is truth? Well, in your eyes, nothing that contradicts the “narrative” (Is that a “good story to tell”?) of “mostly peaceful” fascist left demonstrations.

Do you have any actual evidence for your claim? If you do, then post it. At least Shapiro is in the same country, and might thus have more access to the facts than you do.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 17, 2022 6:21 pm

Evidence?
The evidence is that there are still maniacs down there.

Roger
Roger
May 17, 2022 6:23 pm

Mr Albanese reiterated that Labor’s costings would be released on Thursday and signalled he would have “more to say” on the topic during his address to the National Press Club tomorrow.

He’s lost without a script.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 17, 2022 6:23 pm

At least Shapiro is in the same country, and might thus have more access to the facts than you do.
Seriously?
Shapiro is a dope, he’d say anything for a few buck$$.

will
will
May 17, 2022 6:23 pm

I never studied economics at school – it wasn’t an option 50 years ago – but I’m curious. Please can you recommend a book or video which will cover these topics, preferably in language as concise and informative as yours.

Not sure I know of anything that doesn’t get rapidly technical, at least regarding the operations of central banks in general and the RBA in particular, and how the entire banking system is managed by central banks. I am sure there is a lot of literature on how ruinous fractional banking and the move away from the gold standard let governments become profligate.

Steve Kates has a tome: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12121468-free-market-economics

As for a general introduction to economics, I have always liked Matt Ridley’s ” The Rational Optimist How Prosperity Evolves”. This book is an easy read and takes the historical perspective to explain how free markets create the wealth and prosperity we experience today. His explanation on the “Law of Comparative Advantage” was excellent.

Sorry I can’t be more helpful.

Roger
Roger
May 17, 2022 6:25 pm

CUBA On Brink of ECONOMIC COLLAPSE. Food & Oil SHORTAGES, Power BLACKOUTS & Out of CURRENCY

Venezuela, Sri Lanka, Cuba…I’m sensing that there’s a certain commonality in play here.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 17, 2022 6:25 pm

Ed Casesays:
May 17, 2022 at 6:21 pm
Evidence?
The evidence is that there are still maniacs down there.

Post it, unless it is all in your mind.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
May 17, 2022 6:25 pm

“First nation’s foreign policy”? FMD.

This garbage is getting out of control.

That Wong clown is doubling down on the stupid election spruiking day by day.

Bruce
Bruce
May 17, 2022 6:26 pm

@ Lysander:

“ABC to create an external “ombudsman” that handles complaints”

This ditty gets more ironic by the year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUONdYMPbXs

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 17, 2022 6:26 pm

Dickless

Shapiro is a dope, he’d say anything for a few buck$$

Evidence?

rickw
rickw
May 17, 2022 6:26 pm

seized by a foreign oppressor in return for their chiefs getting beads and trinkets it doesn’t sound like a particularly promising…
Ah! “Belt and Road”! Now I get it.

Bead and Trinket was the precursor of Belt and Road.

As far as I know only one native population saw through the ruse. The M?ori took their beads and trinkets and brought a shitload of muskets.

Deserving of a real treaty.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 17, 2022 6:29 pm

Keep it together Albo. Only one more week.

rickw
rickw
May 17, 2022 6:31 pm

What is truth? Well, in your eyes, nothing that contradicts the “narrative” (Is that a “good story to tell”?) of “mostly peaceful” fascist left demonstrations.

Munty screamed violence and oppression at the mere suggestion of a meeting. 200 Munty whack jobs out the front of your house is nothing to be concerned about.

rickw
rickw
May 17, 2022 6:33 pm

Voted today. Had the pleasure of giving the ALP gimp that suggested I vote labor some feedback.

Roger
Roger
May 17, 2022 6:33 pm

Keep it together Albo. Only one more week.

Yes, then it’s out of the frying pan & into the fire.

If he can’t manage an election campaign he’s going to fall apart regularly as PM.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 17, 2022 6:34 pm

“Malmo” mUnty shouldn’t be taken too seriously.

Indolent
Indolent
May 17, 2022 6:36 pm

I have a clip (unfortunately no link, but it was a media event) of Morrison stating that he was in favour

Any hints about where to search for it?
I mean, the internet is forever.
It’s got to be somewhere, you’d think.

Here it is.

Didn’t take me long to find it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 17, 2022 6:37 pm

If he can’t manage an election campaign he’s going to fall apart regularly as PM.

His Cabinet has a definite Australia A feeling about it.

urb
urb
May 17, 2022 6:38 pm

Roger
Roger
May 17, 2022 6:38 pm

Technician came today to put new element in oven.

Does at least 50 jobs a week.

Saaid people are very underwhelmed by both Elbow and SloMo.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 17, 2022 6:38 pm

But then so has SloMo’s for a few years.

urb
urb
May 17, 2022 6:40 pm

Ah woops, I dunno how to link but both scummo & sleazy stories are on michael smith

Roger
Roger
May 17, 2022 6:40 pm

His Cabinet has a definite Australia A feeling about it.

Yes, except for Charming Jim, who imagines he’s going to pay for all of Labor’s multi billion dollar promises by closing loopholes in Josh’s budget, it’s retreads from RGR.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 17, 2022 6:42 pm

If he can’t manage an election campaign he’s going to fall apart regularly as PM

Even Lord Waffleworth managed one campaign- at least till he went to lunch at the club.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 17, 2022 6:45 pm

We all know you shouldn’t run retreads on a Radial Tuned Suspension.

JMH
JMH
May 17, 2022 6:49 pm

Just a reflection: I haven’t seen ‘Catherine’ McGregor AM on Sky this year. Has she/he been dumped for telling the truth? I’d like to know.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
May 17, 2022 6:55 pm

m0ntysays:
May 17, 2022 at 12:09 pm
This thread will not be funny either.

It couldn’t possibly get off to a worse start.

JMH
JMH
May 17, 2022 6:55 pm

“ABC to create an external “ombudsman” that handles complaints”

My understanding it is actually an “internal” ombudsman. That means ‘situation normal’ doesn’t it?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 17, 2022 6:56 pm

Any hints about where to search for it?
I mean, the internet is forever.
It’s got to be somewhere, you’d think.

Here it is.

The trouble is he is hinting at WHO investigating China, even using “independent” and “WHO investigation” in the same sentence.
That is never going to happen.
I don’t actually think he is involved in a sinister conspiracy to cede sovereignty. It’s just the idea of deflecting blame to someone in Brussels or New York really appeals to him.

chrisl
chrisl
May 17, 2022 6:56 pm

So….. Delta A …. Fiction writer?
So all that leg business and building works?
Totally made up?
Hmmmm

Indolent
Indolent
May 17, 2022 6:57 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 17, 2022 7:00 pm

chrislsays:

May 17, 2022 at 6:56 pm

So….. Delta A …. Fiction writer?

I think we all are to an extent!
🙂

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
May 17, 2022 7:01 pm

Rogersays:
May 17, 2022 at 6:15 pm
Morrison’s latest clanger, however, is suggesting that WHO or “world authorities” should be in charge of our pandemic management!

A gloabl pandemic response plan was first put forward by Bill Gates (c. 2015), whose foundation is a large donor to the WHO.

As I’ve said before, I’m not given to conspiracy theories, but there’s certainly no shortage of material for those who are to work with.

It’s no theory, of course. The WHO is effectively owned by Bill Gates and the Chinese government, and our PM is willing to sign the treaty handing powers to the WHO without any vote or say by Australians.

We need to think beyond voting this Saturday in how to deal with this threat to our democracy and our rights.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
May 17, 2022 7:02 pm

Everything I write is the TRUTH as I see it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 17, 2022 7:04 pm

Perth Tradersays:

May 17, 2022 at 7:02 pm

Everything I write is the TRUTH as I see it.

If you believe it is plausible, that’s good enough for me.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
May 17, 2022 7:06 pm

Just looked at the first video on Michael Smith news -Dare I say it in the still photo Mr Albanese looks more and more like Malcolm Turnbull, that lean hungry look, the glasses and the clenched teeth —

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
May 17, 2022 7:06 pm

Just looked at the first video on Michael Smith news -Dare I say it in the still photo Mr Albanese looks more and more like Malcolm Turnbull, that lean hungry look, the glasses and the clenched teeth —

Delta A
Delta A
May 17, 2022 7:06 pm

Sorry I can’t be more helpful.

You’ve been very helpful indeed. Thanks, will.

BTW, I love your Dilbert toons and always give them an uptick. Unfortunately, my tick function is not working properly; all my ticks disappear with the next download. So please, will, always add one to your tally, as can Tom and his toons, and all the rest of my favourite Cats. (You know who you are.)

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
May 17, 2022 7:07 pm

Oh dear how did that happen? twice as crotchety Albo

custard
custard
May 17, 2022 7:12 pm

??Bannon Says Biden Will Be Impeached In November At Conclusion of ‘Serious Investigations’

Steve Bannon, former chief strategist for President Trump, believes Joe Biden will be impeached in November over the administration’s handling of the immigration crisis on the U.S.-Mexico border.

“You have stood down ICE and you’ve stood down Border Patrol, and guess what? That’s the impeachment hearing I want to hear,” Bannon said in a segment on his War Room show.

“You’re going to sit there day after day and week after week and we’re going to bring the witnesses,” Bannon added. “We’re going to bring the witnesses of what you did to this country and what you did on the southern border.”

“Preserve your documents because after impeachment, they’re going to put you up on criminal charges. Criminal charges for allowing this country to be invaded by your actions.”

###

https://t.me/georgenews | @GEORGENEWS

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 17, 2022 7:13 pm
Roger
Roger
May 17, 2022 7:14 pm

It’s no theory, of course. The WHO is effectively owned by Bill Gates and the Chinese government…

WHO chief Dr. Ted Ross needs to be looking over his shoulder then…

He’s just said China’s zero covid policy is not sustainable.

Mr. Xi will not be happy.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 17, 2022 7:16 pm

VLAD the Slav Slayer is heading for shit city when the Middle East get denied their grains and the hungry citizens get tetchy.
NATO will have plenty of mates gunning for the sawn off poser.

rosie
rosie
May 17, 2022 7:16 pm

Son watching YouTubers
Labor ad comes on blaming Morrison for the Victorian lockdowns.
What?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 17, 2022 7:19 pm

Just scrolling through Stanflix and I see the ABC alleged documentary* “Exposed – Keli Lane”.
It is now three and a half years since the ABC and a couple of attention seeking academics swore that “stunning new evidence proving her evidence” was imminent.
I got to thinking.
If ScoMo or Trumble had been NSW Premier at the time, she’d have been sprung within days, pending a (cough) “independent enquiry”, which would have declared her innocent and stuffed her pockets full of compo cash.
….
* It is correctly described on Wiki as “an opinion piece”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 17, 2022 7:21 pm

Tintarella di Lunasays:

May 17, 2022 at 7:07 pm

Oh dear how did that happen? twice as crotchety Albo

No need to go on and on about it!
🙂

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