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Blackout Bowen wouldn’t know if his arse was on fire.
You’re saying that Andrew Constance hasn’t done very well?
Or are you saying that Constance is a RockRibbed Conservative?
Mandates? These exist only in the most limited form in glorious Washminster after an election. If you have the numbers in the HoR, you have a mandate to form government. Your government must get its policies through the Senate, which has its own mandate, distinct from yours.
There does exist that rare beast, one party majority in both houses. Seldom seen and never heard. Because when a government can draw upon this kind of mandate, it doesn’t crap on about it. Too busy passing bills.
The only governments that bleat about their mandates don’t have them.
Deves is an unreconstructed feminist & climate chaneg alarmist; other than on the gender issue there’s not much difference between her and the other Teal women.
Wodger:
This was the same situation the Soviet Union created – lot’s of money in bank accounts and under mattresses but no goods to buy. It only worked until the wukkas awoke so the Party revalued the currency – twice I think – to soak up the excess.
Not sure how pliant the pricing system is in China but I doubt it will work.
A lot of these idiots should have been turfed years ago.
Plenty of fake moderates were turfed yesterday as well as a few wannabe RightWingers.
How many actual Liberals [in the strict sense of the word] got turfed?
Entsch was predicted to be a goner, he’s won, Dutton won, Tudgey won,
Bridget Archer won easily, she was supposed to be a goner too.
Why did Dave Sharma lose?
Because no one could figure out what he believed in, other than not being a liberal.
Is Allegra Spender a liberal?
I’d say she is.
Cohenite:
What sort of battery are you considering?
I was looking at Tesla Powerwall things, but they’re quite pricey.
A young Russian lady told me of drawers stuffed full of cash in her parent’s house.
Precisely, Armadillo.
The best part is that those of us who grew up without aircon will get by. Our spoilt brats on the other hand will be screaming blue murder.
Wow, JC agrees with Monty that coal is not required.
Handy to know.
Forget batteries, don’t play into their hands. Use generators, burn those fossil fuels, baby, and make your virtue signalling neighbours swelter in their jocks getting jealous at their unenlightened neighbour.
Mmmyes, that must be why Tony Abbott was campaigning alongside her. Good job Tone.
Labor governs from the Right even though it pretends to be a Leftie outfit.
See:
Peter Beattie in Qld
Palaszczuk in Qld
Carr in NSW
Andrews in Victoria
McGowan in WA
The only reason Liberals got back in Qld and NSW was on the back of a protest vote against the Official Corruption that always seems to go hand in hand with Reactionary Right Wing Governments.
Yet some reckon the way forward for the Liberals is to outflank Labor to it’s Right.
Which is fucking hard to do without going the full Zelenskyy.
We have a generator for blackouts when our 10kw solar system (connected to the grid) is shut down due to work on the lines. But requires petrol – & this may become a problem.
We are reluctantly looking at getting a battery.
Abbott is a party loyalist to a fault.
The fact is Deves campaigned against him in 2019 as a Steggall acolyte.
Prior to her “coming out” as anti-trans, she actually had the support of Matt Kean.
And I’m the queen of Sheba.
If she was a Liberal, she wouldn’t advocate for the destruction of choice. You’re confusing the Liberals with the UK Greens, somehow.
Some enjoyable reaction pics from last night.
This day marks the end of the middle, and the beginning of the end. There are no political solutions to what this country has become. Whether we like it or not no one is coming save us, the country is going to ride it all the way down to zero, and only then, when there is nothing left to loose, left to steal, left to loot, left to corrupt, left to pevert, left to kill, will this all be over. Could take a while, but given global events, maybe faster than we might think. Best of luck to all.
There was nothing controversial about Deves’ comments on trannies & on men going into girls’ dunnies, & men competing in womens’ events.
Anywhere you went, everybody agreed with Deves.
Warringah is a la-la-land of swivel eyed loons & the liberal party has to cut the sickos loose.
munty
The Libs just aren’t capable of running a campaign to appeal to the suburban working class. They are staffed almost exclusively by inner-city white collar elites.
The inner city, upper middle class idiots, many paid by the taxpayer, who “believe” absolutely that the world is warming catastrophically, and that women can have dicks.
Time for a purge!
Greetings from Birdsville.
And on the subject of birds, if Fiona Martin was voted out, it doesn’t mean the Libs have a “female problem”.
It means the voters had a problem with Fiona Martin.
How difficult is this to understand?
rosiesays:
May 22, 2022 at 2:04 pm
Monty obviously hasn’t read the cat for a long time.
He’s completely misread the room.
munty is totally incapable of detecting anything other than his own ingrained pre-conceived dogmas.
If she was a Liberal, she wouldn’t advocate for the destruction of choice.
When did she advocate that?
You’re confusing the Liberals with the UK Greens, somehow.
Huh?
The clue is in the name, it’s a liberal Party, she’s a liberal.
Lol.
Explains a lot.
Amen to that.
Nobody gets to be a staffer unless they’ve had to cook for themself.
Any potential staffer who has had the uni/business council or other sponsored path has to do extra time in small business to negate the bad influences & to learn what freedom & self-determination are.
The town has a new publican. Buy a second round to show support. 😉
Ed Casesays:
May 22, 2022 at 2:56 pm
Labor governs from the Right even though it pretends to be a Leftie outfit.
See:
Peter Beattie in Qld
Palaszczuk in Qld
Carr in NSW
Andrews in Victoria
McGowan in WA
Dickless
You are confusing the “Right” with fascism, a leftist political philosophy. The Liars you mention above are a bunch of fascists.
Anywhere you went, everybody agreed with Deves.
Anywhere you went, people agreed that Water Is Wet, but that didn’t mean they were voting Liberal.
No one wants to see Labor types fellating each other, Muttley.
Dickless
The clue is in the name, it’s a liberal Party, she’s a liberal.
Still confusing “Classical” liberalism with its modern perverted namesake, born from the US “Progressive” movement in the 1920s,after Woodrow Wilson’s fascist behaviour in 1917-1918 destroyed the “Progressive” brand. They are NOT the same, however much you might try to pretend that they are.
The Republicans have a big problem with RINO’s in America that Trump is slowly trying to weed out.
The Liberal Party has a similar problem here, but there is no “Australian Trump”.
It sort of reminds me of Malcolm Turnbull. He wouldn’t have cared if he was a Liberal or a Labor candidate. He just wanted to get elected. No wonder people can’t figure out “what they stand for”. It’s nothing to do with the party or deeply held conservative values. They stand for themselves. That is all. Nothing else. That’s why they shift to the left. Anything to garner a few more votes based on polling. They have no conviction or belief, otherwise they would stand on their digs on issues such as climate change.
The Liberal Party has left the conservative voters, not the other way around.
In a just world, these people would be turfed out. But that’s not going to happen because they now control the branches.
So what do you do? That’s why I’m suggesting that true Liberals probably need to find a new home. The Nationals are probably a much better match than the current “Labor Lite” that the current Liberals have evolved into.
They simply won’t fight for their supposed convictions. They just prefer to follow the breeze.
Just saw this post on Jo Nova’s latest discussion of last night’s results. Interesting.
Rowan Dean’s election comment
Scott Morrison and the Coalition did not lose government last night. They lost it on November 1 last year, when Scott Morrison stood in front of an adoring crowd of climate cultists in Glasgow and committed Australia to the ridiculous pledge of ‘Net Zero by 2050’.
Attacking and resisting Climate Change alarmism had been the secret winning weapon of the Liberal and National parties at every election since and including the landslide win in 2013.
The most pathetic scenes in this election campaign were watching Liberals and Nationals stand impotently by as they were attacked on Climate Change.
Rather than going on the attack by pointing out the energy crisis in Europe and the spiralling inflation in the US are all the result of climate alarmism, thanks to Scott Morrison and the bedwetters within the Liberal party, they played along with the pretence that we can close down our coal mines and still maintain our prosperity.
Scott Morrison, through his cowardice on the climate issue and so many other issues – in particular the abandonment of the nation during Covid to the outrageous human rights abuses of the Labor premiers – and cultural issues such as religious freedom, has decimated the Liberal party.
If you stand for nothing, you lose. That is the message from this campaign.
If you betray your base, you lose.
If you follow the siren calls of focus group researchers, you lose.
Whether you like or loathe the Teals, the point is they fought from a position of conviction. They stood for something and they won.
It is time for the Liberal party to rediscover its conservative convictions and stop pandering to the woke, touchy-feely left.
As we now know in no uncertain terms, appeasement is a sure path to defeat.
JC says:
May 22, 2022 at 10:19 am
Australia is not a serious country when those people living in the most salubrious burbs have elected those stupid intellectually pretentious sheilas. Incredible.
I am embarrassed to say that I live in Ryan. In support of your comments, Ryan contains some of the most salubrious suburbs in all Brisbane such as St Lucia, Fig Tree Pocket, most of Kenmore, Chapel Hill and The Gap. Even those suburbs within Ryan that are somewhat less salubrious than those mentioned are still conspicuously ‘well off’ relative to many other parts of Brisbane. That isn’t a brag by the way, it’s just a fact – in any circumstance Ryan would normally be classic conservative/LNP territory.
Now, it’s Green territory and I’m shell-shocked. A stark example of the loss of LNP core supporters. Have the people of Ryan become so ‘comfortable’ they ignore the Greens other policies and merely pander to the clarion call of disastrous climate change? WTF were people thinking?
I can imagine the Greens having some success in the semi-rural suburbs of Ryan such as Bellbowrie and Pullenvale and potentially the inner suburbs of Indooroopilly and Taringa but that a Green candidate (complete with double-barrelled surname) managed to score 31.6% of the primary vote is just ….incredible.
And the thing is, the Greens presence in Ryan was not overt. A few banners but these were easily outnumbered by LNP and Labor. Letter boxes were filled with LNP and Labor material – I don’t remember receiving one Green flyer. That the residents of Ryan voluntarily voted Green (or Labor) in such numbers is stunning.
And then these two replies from other scrutineers:
I’m staying at the pub Sal. Two nights. After his little PaPa nap, the Beloved and I will sashay into the bar and have some drinkies or three.
It was an interesting trip in, but I won’t clog the election thread with stories.
@ Speedbox
The Greens were ‘the Other’ – recipients of protest votes. The urban liberals have been slaughtered. It is cold comfort that votes didn’t pass directly to the party of organised labour, but it counts as a start: in 2025 a Lib (hopefully a Lib, not an agrarian socialist Nat in a tie) should be able to know the Green off and return things to their natural order. If not … we’re in for decades of socialism of the left (and right).
In a single tweet, she incorrectly and dishonestly called rebates “subsidies” while pining for upper class welfare in the form of subsidised electric vehicles.
She’s about as Liberal as Karl Marx’s smelly socks.
Top Ender says:
May 22, 2022 at 3:15 pm
It is time for the Liberal party to rediscover its conservative convictions and stop pandering to the woke, touchy-feely left. As we now know in no uncertain terms, appeasement is a sure path to defeat.
On the ABC this morning, a couple of talking heads were saying that the reason the LNP lost was because the LNP had drifted too far to the right!!
Spat out my cornflakes.
Cowardice? I wonder.
He seemed quite comfortable doing all those things and being proactive in some of them. He just thought we wouldn’t notice. But we did.
Rowan is being kind.
Lol. Dishonesty comes so easily to you, driller .
The fact that Cats have been willing the demise of the Liberal Party for months on end says it all.
We haven’t left the side of conservative politics, the Liberals left us.
Mention of the Tudger up thread. Yes, he has been returned with a reduced majority. The Greens coming in third is a surprise. Tudger is very active in the electorate and has done some good work here. Like me, a lot of people appear to have registered a protest vote against SloMo’s government rather than the Tudger himself.
On a positive note, also as mentioned up thread, Labour didn’t win in a landslide.
@ Vicki
They do an ‘indicative count’ on the night, it’s not final, but if feeds the requirement to ‘know the result’ – the whole frenzy built up by the press and television and now embodied in Antony Green. They count everything again in the coming week, as well as the postals; once the cut-off for postals expires they can count through the preference counts. You can’t do that until the last votes are in (a fortnight after election day to allow for postal delays) because the order of elimination matters.
I ws scrutineering last night. The preferences didnt even get looked at. They took the 2 highest candidate votes and allocated the rest of the votes based on who of the 2 was highest on the voter ballot.
That’s the way they’ve always done it, pard.
I find this a bit sus, I questioned it and got told thats the way it is done. So much for preferences
It’s called the 2 Candidate Preferred count.
By the way the informal vote was 11.5 %
You’ve got a large Indigenous community near the Booth, or did the ballot paper have <15 candidates.
Otherwise, i'll hafta call bullshit on the 11.5%.
When proudly announcing Albo as Australia’s 31st prime minister, Ms Wong was saying more than she realised. He’s Prime Minister 31 alright: elected on 31 per cent of the primary vote, which is less than Rudd attracted when he lost in 2013.
On the ABC this morning, a couple of talking heads were saying that the reason the LNP lost was because the LNP had drifted too far to the right!!
That is correct.
You can’t win ’em all, and you’re wasting your time trying to steal Labor’s lunch.
It’s called the Liberal Party for a reason.
The clue is in the name.
Speedbox says: May 22, 2022 at 3:24 pm
They started that line about the middle of last night.
No bias. National Broadcaster. No sides taken. Objective analysis. etc.
To be a moral coward you have to have principles you betray for the sake of expediency.
I’m not convinced Morrison had any to begin with.
JC says: May 22, 2022 at 3:24 pm
That’s what you said.
You’d never engage mouth before brain.
Ergo that is your considered position.
Handy to know.
By copying your opponents, you lose your existing support and gain no new support, because such supporters will be sceptical of motivation and support those whom appear to have conviction on such issues. Rookie errors by a 3 term government says it all.
Roger says: May 22, 2022 at 3:31 pm
His ‘concession’ speech revealed your opinion to be accurate.
I’m just going to state this once and for all, and contrary to what the Monty thinks, there’s nothing “controversial” about Katherine Deves or her comments. Kath is one of the founders of “Save Women’s Sport Australasia” which seeks to protect the rights of biological females in sport, specifically to stop biological men from competing against biological women because those biological men who’ve gone through male puberty will almost always have an advantage despite “transitioning”. And for those who say it’s a non-issue, only last week a transgender surfer won a competition and HIS victory in the surfing category against biological women is unlikely to ever be equalled by a biological woman. We now have the ridiculous situation where people who query such absurdities and nonsense are routinely smeared and silenced, with the assistance of a compromised MSM.
We are now in clown world. This clown world is now likely to be ramped up under Labor.
I’m curious though, does Monty think that transgender women are women? That there’s absolutely no difference between a male who puts on a dress and identifies as a woman and a biological woman? If he does then I pity his wife and daughters. Also, if he thinks that there’s absolutely no difference between biological women and “transwomen”…is he willing to have sex with a so called transwoman? Because already in the UK and US trans activists are jumping up and down and screaming hysterically that any biological male who refuses to have sex with a trannie is a bigot and a transphobe….and all the rest of the bullshit labels being used to shut down discussion and debate.
Speedbox
On the ABC this morning, a couple of talking heads were saying that the reason the LNP lost was because the LNP had drifted too far to the right!!
To Their ABC, anything to the right of the CCP is “too far to the right”.
I endured the ABC coverage because Green is the best in the business, but other parts of it were nauseous, especially Karavelas mooning over Albo’s acceptance speech like a love-sick teenager. (The GayBC will have to do something, by the way, about Albo’s references to his mother: shouldn’t it be gestational birthing chestfeeder parent with a cervix?)
There was a revealing moment during a discussion of the Coalition’s so-called women problem when Ms Sales accidentally let drop that, after the Brittany Higgins story broke, she has been contacted by many serving and former female Labor staffers with similar tales. So why the ****, we might ask, did the ABC produce absolutely not so much as one single solitary syllable of reporting about them?
Needless to say I didn’t watch it.
Not watching TV – apart from a few favourites on 7Mate – does wonders for the blood pressure.
The vote swings against the Nationals mainly went to One Nation and UAP. Probably because Barney signed up to that stupid net zero thingy. He should have stuck to his guns.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/nationals-maintain-status-quo-but-party-s-performance-raises-questions-20220519-p5amwt.html
Posted before polling ended,
(& likely already seen by most here)
Worth reposting, often:
$inclair Davidson @SincDavidson
May 21
‘The Coalition ends 8½ years in power with,
public debt across the country headed for $2 trillion,
practically zero tax or industrial reform under its belt,
a superannuation guarantee levy headed to 12 per cent, and
the Port of Darwin in Chinese hands on a 99-year lease.’
3/4 of them are dickless
What sort of battery are you considering?
I was looking at Tesla Powerwall things, but they’re quite pricey.
I really have to do research. But emotionally I’m connected to Elon.
Cassie
Also, if he thinks that there’s absolutely no difference between biological women and “transwomen”…is he willing to have sex with a so called transwoman?
More to the point, is there a “transwoman” anywhere who would be willing to have sex with munty?
Expecting the Nats to step up as the home of conservatism is hilarious, actually. Agrarian socialists all, sucking the teat of government whenever they can.
Dillo at 1.52:
This is actually worthwhile, and it would cut the Uniparty numbers by a third while drawing in the less insane Death Camp party adherents while leaving the rest to TikTok.
Also correct.
However – to do this, two things need to be achieved. One, immediately remove and sack all the city doctors rebranded as National candidates and parachuted into seats that for the past 100 years have been safe Nat (or similar party) havens.
Two – the giant festering pustule at the head must be excised. The turncoat, self-interested trough-dweller needs to be not just removed in a coup de main, but his latest taxpayer-cash-snuffling missus as well. Neither must sit on leather – whether static or mobile – ever, ever again.
Naturally, I speak of that Quisling Barnaby Joyce. Nothing good can occur while he remains.
GET FUCKED BARNABY.
h/t bern
Lol. Albo, another potentially great PM.
Mandates?
I’m old enough to have been around in the “interesting times” of the Joh Bjelke Petersen -led government in Queensland.
The bolsheviks openly referred to the crafty old bugger as “Mr. Twenty-Seven Percent”. Statistically significant difference from Elbow?
Not really, I suspect they were eventually glad when one of a steady string of leaders made a bit of a mark by openly stating that he learned “the trade” by carefully observing Joh.
And they have pretty much successfully shoved into the “forgettery”,the origins of “creative” boundary making by successive earlier ALP governments. The party (so to speak), trick was to send large numbers of rail and road maintenance workers to long-term “camps” in critical electorates, the boundaries of which oddly fairly closely “paralleled” the rails and roads.
If anybody else tried such a stunt, the word “Gerrymander” would ring out in Parliament and in the fifth column press.
Thus, Joh learned the game from the union-movement-owned ALP and his “refinements” were subsequently the “model” for future Queensland ALP government “creativity”.
How is that approaching asteroid looking, today.
The LNP needs to look to the UK and the US in rebuilding.
The ALP would be wise to do the same.
In the UK, the Tories reached out to the working class in the north of England and won. The GOP is in the process of purging the Karl Rove-approved, establishment types and is reaching demographics that the Dems thought they had a permanent lock on.
The Dems and Labour are falling ever deeper into the woke void that is very unappealing to their traditional voter bases. The ALP is highly susceptible to going down the same path.
I encourage the ALP to think their victory was all about women and climate change, and to govern accordingly. I don’t think it will work out well for them.
The ALP appears to hold two fundamentally incorrect assumptions. Firstly, that the majority of Australians are fine with the woke shit because Teals and women voters and Catherine Deves. Expect the ALP to go very woke. However, this is a boutique position with the vast majority of the country. Secondly, as Tanya Plibersek said last night, the ALP thinks their climate change policies will result in cheaper energy. They are deeply wrong about this.
Given the above, the Liberal Party – shorn of much of its tedious moderate wing that would have happily gone along with all of it and insisted that the ALP wasn’t woke or green enough – has a very interesting opportunity facing it. (Which it will probably fuck up, because it’s the Liberal Party, but anyway.) A period of relative silence is recommended. The ALP is going to enact its woke, green agenda. Stand ready to highlight the inevitable sky-rocketing energy prices (and the knock on effect this will have on the cost of everything). And provide a sane alternative to the woke absurdities coming down the pike.
The Libs need to abandon their teal and tealish heartlands. Stop appealing to these voters, stop promising to address their luxury problems. If Labor goes fully renewable and fully woke (which it likely will – I don’t think it can help itself), the Labor heartlands in sprawling suburbia will be there for the taking. While Labor becomes the party of transitioning to a green economy and other genders, the Libs can become precisely not that. Now that the likes of Dave Sharma and Tim Wilson aren’t in the picture, and voices like Simon Birmingham’s are very lonely indeed in the party room, the Libs don’t even have to pay lip service to this nonsense anymore.
The Libs need to say goodbye to their traditional eastern suburb strongholds in the east and their traditional western suburb strongholds in the west, and forget about the inner cities. And stand by to say a big hello to Labor’s suburban and outer urban strongholds that are not going to be at all impressed with what Labor’s about to embark upon.
“On the ABC this morning, a couple of talking heads were saying that the reason the LNP lost was because the LNP had drifted too far to the right!!”
Well you see, this is the consensus among many people who live in the now Teal electorates. They really believe this, mainly because they rely on The Malcolm Guardian, the SMH, The Age and their ABC for their information. When you talk to these people they believe Porter is a wapist whilst they know nothing about the Shorten allegations, they still believe Pell is guilty, that Abbott is evil, that Malcolm was wonderful, that renewables will save the planet and on and on their delusions go. They don’t care about anyone living in the struggle suburbs.
I really think we need to start calling them out as far-left and to cease tolerating their bullshit. And here’s a start. Moving forward, every current Liberal/National should refuse to appear on their ABC’s opinion drivel programmes such as The Dumb, Q&A and the 7.30 Report.
It’s war now.
No mystery why this is so.
Tim, that is the way it is done. That was the problem with so many minor parties. They split the vote and hand the seat to the majors in most cases. For an independent to get preferences they have to get a substantial vote upfront, a hard call
That’s rot.
Once the Primary Votes are tallied, the Returning Officer rings the Divisional Returning Officer and inquires which 2 candidates will not have their preferences distributed.
Preferences of the remainder will then be distributed to determine the 2 Candidate preferred count.
In the case of Allegra Spender, she and Dave wouldna had their prefs distributed because Dave and Phelps [indie] were 1 & 2 in 2019.
However, in Goldstein, Labor and Liberal were 1 & 2 last time, so the DRO has to make the call whether to do that again or distribute to Wilson and Daniels based on the Numbers the booths have reported.
Keep in mind that PrePoll and Postals haven’t been counted, and the Numbers there might be quite different.
For example, on the Figures from the Booths, The Greens have won Brisbane, but according to the Sunday Mail, Labor has done very well in the Postal Voting, The Greens not so well, and is favoured to win the Seat.
if he gets to play the mummy
ScoMo didn’t really do anything in three years. He took a back seat to the premiers over Covid. After his “miracle” win in 2019 he basically… sat around and expected another miracle.
31% of the primary vote.
You have zero mandate on climate change, Albanese.
A wimp beholden to the MSM after the Christmas bushfire debacle of his own making.
Proof God has a sense-of-humour, eh Scummo?
maaaaate rubntug accepts the challenge!
“Oh come onsays:
May 22, 2022 at 3:42 pm”
Excellent comment.
He expended a lot of energy towards subverting democratic processes in the Liberal Party.
And to no great purpose, as it turns out.
There is that.
Amen to that.
I’ve spent half the day rebutting so-called conservatives who’re of the opinion that on no account should we use against Albo & ALP the same underhanded tactics that ALP & the left used against Jenny Morrison, Porter, conservatives in general, or speak up any time Albo does not ‘hold a hose’
Nope – it is war. Don’t be redcoats in a line playing Queensberry, be Churchill’s Commandos, nasty, kicking below the belt, cutting throats in the dark, no quarter given.
Scumoron’s record of ineptitude will be hard to beat.
when Ms Sales accidentally let drop that, after the Brittany Higgins story broke, she has been contacted by many serving and former female Labor staffers with similar tales. So why the ****, we might ask, did the ABC produce absolutely not so much as one single solitary syllable of reporting about them?
They also ran dead on the Rachelle Miller/$500,000 Award story.
Did that lead back to the Brittany Higgins story that Kimberley Kitching helped to kill?
Whispers are that ICAC are afoot. Don’t underestimate the spite of the left.
At the very least, every single last cent of funding promised to New England is going to be wiped in favour of a Sydney Monorail.
Dungowan Dam? Goneski. University in Tamworth? Goneski. All other projects in the region? Ditto.
Driller
Lol, you’re such a dishonest cunt. One of the worst I’ve seen and therefore no surprise you associate with lying arseholes.
Here’s what you said, you lying piece of shit.
and my reply:
You then try to turn this around by suggesting I’m against mining?
Your lying disrespects the site.
Slow learner career politicians, as opposed to professionals who do a limited term of public service.
Even Yank commentators observe the same re time-servers on their Government benches.
Reports are starting to come in and scrutineers are speaking up.
31% of the primary vote.
You have zero mandate on climate change, Albanese.
Seriously?
Let’s see?
Labor 31%+
Greens, say, 20%+
Teals [only stood in 14 Seats, won 10[?]] 5%
= 56% of the Primary Vote.
That’s a Mandate to Legislate, whether you [or me] like it or not.
If they investigate the Inland Rail scheme, he’s a goner IMHO.
Much scuttlebutt about that in the Press, around the same time as the sexual harassment allegations.
So I am a “bigot” if I refuse to have sex with a “woman” who I find out is actually a trannie with a penis?
To anyone who then calls me a “bigot” or a “transphobe” I will gladly tell him or her to go procreate with him or herself.
What do these activist lunatics call a lesbian who refuses to have sex with a “woman” who has a penis?
It’s called personal choice, and no one has the right to judge others on who they will or won’t have sex with.
Struthsays:
May 22, 2022 at 3:57 pm
Reports are starting to come in and scrutineers are speaking up.
You’re wasting your time reading that link.
It’s classic Sancho, or bullshit, whatever you prefer.
Step one to the Libs recovering (assuming they deserve to).
1: Remove Maocolm/Hewson and other people prepared to white ant on the ABCcess from membership.
2: Go hard on social issues, trans kids/chemical and surgical mutilation of teens.
3: Ensure you put up decent people as candidates and go hard on the lab freakshow of perverts and spivs 24/7.
4: Go back hard on zero debt, its something people associate with good management.
5: Remove all shit to do with gerbil worming and every time its brought up say things along the lines of “It will double power/fuel prices same as it has in XXX” or ‘No we are spending that money on old peoples homes” or similar.
6: RABZ the abc.
Uh huh, sure. The Libs really need to kick out all the sons of doctor’s wives from the Grammar and scour public schools for to find all those working class battlers from council flats who want to join the Young Liberals. Listen to yourself, that makes no sense at all.
If the Libs don’t represent the elites in the leafy suburbs, they’re dead.
Aunty’s old Bolshevik 78rpm record is stuck in the groove.
Outstanding.
JC, nobody gives a flying farq about your stupid ‘stoushes’
Stop trying to confect your juvenile immaturity into this thread.
Grow up. Dickhead.
Daily Mail.
My now distant and fading memories of scrutineering is that the Returning Officer announces the two candidates not to have preferences counted then, at the close of polling, before the ballot boxes are opened. There may be an opportunity to discuss the selection, but it is usually obvious.
Looking at the 4655 [Hervey Bay Polling Places just now, the PHON candidate didn’t run second in any of them.
Yeah, the ABC coverage reported that the AEC had done a 2CP on Pitt and
“Jack” Dempsey’s totals, but at some stage the error has been recognised and now it’s Pitt and the Labor guy, Scanes.
Between Labor, The Greens and Dempsey, they polled 43% Primary to Pitt’s 41%,
so if he had taken advice to become a RockRibbed Conservative National, he woulda been fucked.
“Daily Mail” is saying Albo will need Greens support, and one of the Teals, or Jacquie Lambie, to pass legislation through the Senate. Anyone heard anything about that?
““Daily Mail” is saying Albo will need Greens support, and one of the Teals, or Jacquie Lambie, to pass legislation through the Senate. Anyone heard anything about that?’
I’m not aware that there are any Teals in the senate.
Tokenism is its own reward.
“Diversity hire” c/- Salty Cracker, the source of every fvckup known to man.
Malcolm Roberts, Senator Gerard Rennick and Senator Alex Antic have all been re elected to the Senate & looks like Pauline is safe as well.
There is that.
“What do these activist lunatics call a lesbian who refuses to have sex with a “woman” who has a penis?”
In the UK lesbian dating sites have been invaded by men pretending to be women. Lesbians are being smeared as bigots for refusing to agree to the nonsense that there’s such as a thing as a “female penis”.
David Pocock, progressive independent, funded by the same “Climate 200” who funded the “Teals.”
Clusterfvck: more than one diversity-hire.
(diversity hire)^2 + Trans = disaster
“David Pocock, progressive independent, funded by the same “Climate 200” who funded the “Teals.””
Okay…apologies.
Stop the world, I want to get off!
Do these activists literally have sex with anything on two legs?
Off course not.
So, going by their own rules, whatever their reasons, when they pick and choose who they’ll have sex with ergo makes them a bigot.
My now distant and fading memories of scrutineering is that the Returning Officer announces the two candidates not to have preferences counted then, at the close of polling, before the ballot boxes are opened.
That’s incorrect.
This is the procedure:
1. Opening of the boxes is witnessed and certified
2. The loose ballots are sorted face up into stacks
3. The stacks are sorted for 1st preference
4. First preferences are counted
5. The Returning Officer phones the Divisional Returning Officer with the Booth Tallies
6. The DRO will advise the RO which 2 candidates to distribute preferences to
7. Preferences are distributed, the Vote Counts are recorded, the votes are secured safely
Occasionally, the DRO makes the wrong call, usually because there is a new candidate whose vote gathering abilities can only be guessed.
When that becomes apparent, a new 2CP is conducted.
Here’s where some AEC Magic could happen:
1. By that time, all the Party Scrutineers have left.
2. The original number 2 Candidate [in Hinkler it was Dempsey]
hasn’t had his preferences counted previously, though Labor Scrutineers may have been taking notice.
3. By that time, the Casuals have been sent home and it’s only the AEC regulars left to count where Dempsey’s preference fell.
[Not saying anything bad happened, but …]
Just checked the ABC election site, which is up to date, the good news is that Zed Seselja is leading Pocock in the ACT senate race.
No need.
Malcolm Roberts wasn’t up for re-election. He’s in Qld, same as Pauline (who is up for re-election, and not home yet).
I’ve never heard of Gerard or Alex, but a quick search confirms they weren’t up for re-election either.
Senators serve 6-years terms, Vicki.
Ensure you put up decent people as candidates and go hard on the lab freakshow of perverts and spivs
To do that you need decent state parties. What are the prospects of that?
Victoria: Elite school old boys can’t spell Truganania and don’t want to learn. Meanwhile, they’re booting Bernie Finn, who actually knows and represents the West. If the Vic Lib Party were human, it would be an bulemic teenager heavily into cutting herself with razors.
NSW: Some bloke called Kean is treasurer. Enough said.
SA: Libs endorse and stand by a raving nut case public health commissar who thinks pizza boxes and footballs are COVID carrier. Collective IQ less than an anorexic’s waist measurement
WA: Hand the leadership to a dim green wog and see what happens. Oh, dear me, that happened
Qld: It’s Bananaland, jake.
Tassie: Party built around blokes having at their sisters in the chook run.
A better sort of Liberal might be found on Macquarie Islan, but that won’t help either. While definitely smarter and more principled than mainland Libs, muttonbirds can’t vote.
Not that knob?
Phew!
Australian’s keep voting for Argentina, politicians say we need Argentina, none of them are capable of surviving in Argentina.
Vicki,
Malcolm Roberts and Rennick were not up for election this time.
Looking at results, can’t see Zed getting up.
Current quotas (two ACT spots available):
ALP: 0.99
LNP: 0.7
Pocock: 0.66
Greens: 0.31
…
Looks like Pocock will get in. Yet another Greeny independent. Ugh.
On the upside, territory senate spots are only for 3 years.
What characterised this period? No fucking balls. Name one notable act of political courage shown by Abbott, Trumble or ScoMo. There may have been something here or there, but nothing major springs to mind. Nothing like Howard and Costello delivering a balanced budget in their first year in office via deep and deeply unpopular spending cuts, or going to an election over the GST, which they won by the skin of their teeth.
There’s the partially successful attempt to break the MUA. And there’s the Pacific Solution – Abbott and Morro only went hard on illegal arrivals because they learnt it was an election-winning issue. If they were in the driver’s seat when Tampa showed up, they would have caved and let it dock in an Australian port as soon as the chattering from the chattering classes grew to a screech. Even WorkChoices, which wasn’t especially good policy in hindsight, was known to be politically risky, yet Howard was willing to roll the dice. If Rudd didn’t roll Beazley, Howard probably would have won another term.
Hell, Howard was even willing to turn on a core part of the coalition’s constituency with his gun control measures. I regard this as a low point of Howard’s time in office and an enduring stain on his legacy, but I can’t deny the political courage required to make it happen.
Contrast with Abbott, Trumble and Morrison.
Did Lidia Thorpe get elected?
Pauline appears to be in a spot of bother
Greens and Lambie set to determine Labor agenda with Senate balance of power
Correct me where I’m wrong, doesn’t one first have to ..er…actually hold a seat before losing it?
Sure, the middle and outer suburbs are all council flats. I remember Monty saying similarly idiotic things about Republicans gaining ground with Latinos. It’s not in the least impossible if they adopt policies that align with their interests.
She’s still ahead for spot #6 at the moment, and the way preferences go sometimes, could move up to #5, or drop right off. The Freedom parties haven’t done as well as predicted. Seems the disenfranchised voters went Green, Teal and Cannabis. Fucking hippies. LOL.
Interesting link – seems the Coalition will hold a majority of seats in the new Senate..
Yeah. At least another 6 years of her.
That’s a really stupid mischaracterisation of my comment, m0nts. But do keep attacking that strawman if you like.
I know that’s what you want them to do, because doing so would result in perpetual opposition for them.
The win by the Teals suggests to me that those electorares are effectively centre-left but with a significant portion that could not bring themselves to vote ALP. Once they were free to vote to their inclination without voting red they jumped at it. This also gels with Gray Connolly’s claim that these seats have effectively delared their independence from the majors.
Worst result for the Coalition since 1943. 60 seats max. Incumbent LNP members lost or are losing in 18 seats.
You can’t triangulate your way out of that.
There was a revealing moment during a discussion of the Coalition’s so-called women problem when Ms Sales accidentally let drop that, after the Brittany Higgins story broke, she has been contacted by many serving and former female Labor staffers with similar tales.
I guarantee the Lib’s via parliament house gossip would know who and where the bodies are didn’t even threaten to hit the red button of MAD.
Frolicking +1000
OCO, mention this afternoon some Western Sydney types I know in staunch ALP seats that were voting for Howard till Work Choices. They are socially conservative, one is a son of a Polish immigrant and the others are descendants of E European extraction. All hate the ALP’s positions on woke issues and are very industrious. I thought back then the LNP was putting too much effort into seats that were throwing up the likes of Petro Georgiou, there is a base out there looking for someone who speaks for them including some newer arrivals who are very socially conservative as well. As much as I hate to say PHON isn’t cutting through except for a very narrow front.
How many court cases has this family lost?
Dover
Why then didn’t these electorates support the Greens?
I reckon the little runt was doing drugs to build himself up (claims it was all natural exercise) – it would be interesting to see him in a live forum such as Q&A as he’s likely drug-fvcked, hence his Greenoid Missus snared him for the cause.
Right. Look at the 2019 UK election. According to m0nty’s brilliant logic, it never happened because there are only two groups of voters in the world – public housing tenants and people who attended elite private schools. P
“If the Libs don’t represent the elites in the leafy suburbs, they’re dead.”
Former Labor senator & election analyst John Black.
I agree Dover but the biggest factor is the embrace of the secular religion of climate change by the comfortable classes.
Until that is exposed as a scientific fraud, the teal climate fervour will be unabated.
Monique Ryan said they knocked on 55,000 doors in Kooyong and 20, 22,000 agreed that their number one issue was climate changy, number two, bizarrely was federal government corruption (clearly Victorian state government corruption was a okay)
Especially hilarious considering Richard Marles went to Geelong Grammar and Bill Shorten went to Xavier to name but two in the ALP.
“The win by the Teals suggests to me that those electorares are effectively centre-left but with a significant portion that could not bring themselves to vote ALP. Once they were free to vote to their inclination without voting red they jumped at it. This also gels with Gray Connolly’s claim that these seats have effectively delared their independence from the majors.”
I think that’s a good assessment.
Labor somehow un-won a seat since this morning. How does *that* happen?
Now they’ll need 2 ring-ins to govern.
mOnster, those are all Liberal seats (not Nationals seats). The dickheads went woke, and are now broke.
Just goes to show what happens when you venture into lefty loony land.
“JCsays:
May 22, 2022 at 5:13 pm
Dover
Why then didn’t these electorates support the Greens?”
The economic policies of the Greens.
The Labor victory of 1943 was won on the back of the lies and bullshit, spread by one Eddie Ward, about the non – existent “Brisbane Line.”
the pure Liberal party base vote, 23.7 per cent, has sunk below the point at which it can recover without a major reinvention at the national level and a lot of old-fashioned hard work at the local level.
The 23.7% figure is over all but the Qld LNP Seats?
The message from voters in all the Liberal Electorates is that they reject Fake Moderates and accept real moderates.
There’s no data anywhere that says a RockRibbed FireBreathin’ Conservative has the slightest appeal to either Liberal or Labor Voters [apart from being a perennial source of mirth].
Not sure. Could just be different cultural baggage compared to Labor. You need to interview people in these electorates, look at the demography, etc. Lots of changes have occurred over the last 20 years in these inner electorates.
David Pocock on Social Media – Homophobia – Marriage Equality Q&A 20120730
Senators Roberts, Rennick & Antic weren’t up for re-election this cycles, they have another 3 years to serve. George Christensen thinks that Pauline will be re-elected though it looked like the Greens may take two Queensland Senate seats at one time, hence no room at the inn for Pauline if that eventuated.
URGENT election update!
Freedom got battered last night but it can never be defeated.
George Christensen
May 22
Dear friend,
I wanted to give you an update on the good news and bad news out of the Australian federal election.
Overall, the freedom movement took a bit of a beating, but one thing is for sure: freedom cannot be defeated.
First of all, the good news…
All is not lost. There was some good news out of the election:
• Freedom parties (e.g. One Nation, UAP, Liberal Democrats, Australian Federation Party, IMOP, Katter’s Australia Party, etc) scored more than 12% of the nationwide vote, which — if voters preferenced every minor party on the ticket — would be enough to score a freedom party Senator in each State.
• Pauline Hanson — a key fighter for freedom — is likely to be re-elected to the Senate.
• A lot of left-wing Liberals have been given the boot all over the country.
• Labor’s Kristina Kenneally — who continually tried to paint the freedom movement as domestic terrorists — has been removed from office. She was set to be Home Affairs Minister (and in charge of ASIO and the Australian Federal Police) and would’ve come after us.
• A government that not only didn’t stand up against vaccine mandates but was complicit in enacting those mandates has been defeated.
• We still have good people like Senator Malcolm Roberts, Senator Gerard Rennick and Senator Alex Antic in the Federal Parliament fighting for us.
Now for the bad news…
I don’t want to kid you. There was plenty of the bad news out of election night:
• The freedom parties’ votes were not consistent around the nation and it is likely that voters didn’t preference other freedom parties. This could mean Pauline Hanson may be the only pro-freedom Senator elected to office this election.
• Freedom fighter Craig Kelly has lost his seat.
• I also did not succeed in my bid to become a Senator.
• Labor — who have been worse than the Liberals on issues like vaccine mandates — appear to hold majority government.
• A bunch of ‘Teal Independents’ won office who will pursue an aggressive agenda of control based around the so-called threat of ‘man-made climate change’.
• The Senate will not be controlled by freedom parties, but by the Greens who are pro-mandate and also seek an aggressive agenda of control based around ‘man-made climate change’.
What does this all mean?
What the result means is that things are going to get worse before they get better. There are imminent threats to national sovereignty and freedom on the not-too-distant horizon.
I’m talking about threats like the World Health Organization’s proposed International Health Regulation Changes, its Pandemic Treaty, the Digital Identity agenda and the World Economic Forum’s Great Reset program to name but a few.
We cannot rely on a Labor-Greens government to do the right thing when it comes to these threats. In fact, their socialist instincts will probably just make things worse.
We need to keep fighting.
All of this is why the freedom movement is going to have continue the fight. While it might not seem it to many, a national vote of more than 12% is good for a movement that’s only just emerged. It’s something we can build upon.
But we can only build upon that base if the movement continues to fight, and puts petty differences — and party allegiances — to the side.
The other thing that’s going to be needed in this fight is solid, reliable information.
That’s where I come in. As a former journalist and now a former politician, I’m going to put those twin evils of media and politics to use for the forces of good.
Tomorrow, I will be emailing you with MASSIVE news on the future of Nation First. I’m going to share with you my plans to get you the right information to ensure that freedom prevails.
I don’t want to give anything away just yet but we are going to be going after the globalists, the World Economic Forum, the United Nations, BlackRock, Vanguard and the like, and exposing the topics that the fake news mainstream media won’t touch.
I’m hoping you will be part of this fight with me.
If you don’t want to receive this newsletter anymore then you can click the ‘unsubscribe’ link at the bottom right of this email or just reply with the word ‘unsubscribe’.
As always, God bless you, your family and our nation.
And let’s keep on fighting for freedom.
Take care,
George Christensen
Cassie
Are the economic policies of slymon’s harem distinguishable to those of the greens though?
Maybe, just maybe they’re similar people to the rich bicoastals, such as Californians and New Yorkers.
I’ll just leave this link here for Dover
https://mobile.twitter.com/clairlemon/status/1527449152514564096
Good. This makes me happy. I preferenced a teal above the LNP incumbent because I wanted to punish the Libs.
Yes, you can. You obviously can. It’s been done countless times before by any party that’s lost an election and has gone on to win government in a subsequent election.
Unless you’re suggesting I’m putting a brave face on Morro’s defeat. Not at all. I was expecting it. I celebrate it. Do try to move beyond your simplistic binary thinking, m0nts.
Oh come onsays:
May 22, 2022 at 3:42 pm
Correct. Send it to Dutton.
The PC mask drops again?
What a load of tripe.
Low energy trolling, at best.
Lift your game, M0ntifa.
This shows that a fire breathing Conservative is exactly what’s needed.
I’ll bet Pocock’s got a micropenis, better get a Trans op, being woke ‘n’ all.
JC says: May 22, 2022 at 4:33 pm
Oh dearie dearie me.
Somebody is unable to control their temper. Tsk tsk tsk.
Very likely.
Pocock is a Teal? (this confirms that all Teal candidates were female airheads)
Whatever M0nty’s recommendation is, action the diametric opposite & you’ll not go wrong.
Oh yea:
So, so dishonest.
Might get a discount, on less effort required.
Q. What are you wearing?
A. A Teal chemise, just like J Edgar Hoover’s.
I have to say, the left never give up. They are absolutely relentless in pursuing their goals. We’ve been hard at the Gerbil warming bullshit now for since 2005ish, which is 17 years. They’ve taken their knocks such as the carbon tax under the lying slapper and a lot more, but they come back and never give in. It’s very impressive. The right doesn’t do long campaigns.
Brucesays:
May 22, 2022 at 3:42 pm
Mandates?
I’m old enough to have been around in the “interesting times” of the Joh Bjelke Petersen -led government in Queensland.
The bolsheviks openly referred to the crafty old bugger as “Mr. Twenty-Seven Percent”. Statistically significant difference from Elbow?
IIRC, the 27% was the Country Party vote only, the bolsheviks carefully avoided adding the Liberal vote to the total.
And guess who’s next in line for their attention?
Inner city Labor seats like Grayndler.
It’s probably the worst possible time to win an election for a party that is economically illiterate.
Tough times ahead.
Hmmm. Great observation. When you lay down with wolves, don’t be surprised if you wake up missing an arm and a leg.
munty
If the Libs don’t represent the elites in the leafy suburbs, they’re dead.
They are already dead. If they follow your advice (which has clearly been given with malice aforethought), they will be cremated and buried.
When you recognise that you have made errors, don’t be so silly as to follow the advice of those who hate you to continue on that path.
Which lnp softcocks lost:
Zimerman, wilson, sharma, joshie; who else?
I have to say, the left never give up.
Because they’re governed by emotion and ego; for them it’s about belief so strong it’s instinctive. Doesn’t matter if its wrong which it always is. These fuckers don’t live in reality but in the prism of their own self. To ask them them to edit their beliefs would be the same as asking them to stop breathing. They’re like fucking ants. This quality is only a virtue in war and that’s their approach: any resistance to them is a declaration of war and survival.
If you back the horse of self-interest it would be because of the Greens’ tax policies, i.e. tax the rich.
it looked like the Greens may take two Queensland Senate seats at one time,
No, Larissa Waters was elected in 2019 for a 6 year Term.
Penny Allman-Payne has been elected in 2022 for a 6 year Term.
So, 2 Green Senators from Qld, yes, but not 2 elected from yesterdays Election, just the one.
Labor has won a Senate Seat here and LNP has lost Amanda Stoker.
Hanson is in trouble, some LegalWeed Party looks good if they’re getting enough preferences.
Armadillo
Just goes to show what happens when you venture into lefty loony land.
AKA munty land?
John, I see that the two smart arse, political know-it-all’s are showing their “wisdom” here today.
No prizes for guessing who the other one is (who claims to be a Liberal supporter).
Teals will be like JWs on 1 January 1976.
Why then didn’t these electorates support the Greens?”
Because The Greens are a Party of the Far Right and the Teals represent an alternative slightly to the Left of the Liberal Party.
Notice that the Teals didn’t support any Qld Candidates, though fake moderates Julian Simmonds and Trevor Evans got rolled anyway by Labor and The Greens.
Ken Wyatt & Gladys Liu and a few nonentities in Brisbane you won’t have heard of.
Top Ender:
Morrison is a modern day Chamberlain. Forever surrendering, never fighting.
Did the Teals target gay and Jewish candidates? Not saying they’re Nazis or anything… I’m just asking questions.
I can’t really see the Liberal Party being led by a bunch of bogans from Struggletown. That’s not what they have been about for their entire existence. If you want a Tradies Party then start one of those, don’t pretend that the party of Menzies can become the party of the plumber’s crack.
These eighteen former members will go out to find work in the wider world but they may be surprised to find that their unvaxxed status prevents them from being employed. As Federal parliamentarians they were excused from the tyrannical jab mandates but now they have lost that cover, welcome to the world of the plebs.
The Chinese like to bet on a winner.
Labor were odds on this time, so outreach to the Chinese Community is pointless, if the Swing is on they’ll vote Liberal, if not, forget it.
LNP put a lot of resources into Moreton to beat Perrett, they didn’t get close.
Labor + Greens = 59.56%.
Sure, 20% of Green Prefs probably leaked to Steven Huang but it was still an impressive win.
The 2 Tarragindi Booths posted impressive tallies for the Greens.
Anyone outside of Brisbane has likely never heard of Tarragindi, but it’s the best suburb on the a southside, very private, next to a Forest [full of eucalypts].
Neville Chamberlain had one major problem. He didn’t think anyone would ever plunge Europe into the horrors of another war.
Why are you so disparaging of aspirational voters Monty?
Plenty of them have their children in private school and it’s quite possible that they can read.
The liberal party could possibly pivot back to those voters.
After all TA didn’t do so badly in 2013.
You are so typical of the look down the nosers while pretending to be a champion of the working class.
What makes you think any of those liberal party politicians are unvaxxed old bloke?
m0ntysays:
May 22, 2022 at 6:15 pm…you know monty, I think your onto something with the ‘tradies party’ . I know lots of tradies who feel left behind by all the parties. There hard working, fiscally savvy ,tax literate and very independant. There kids are booked into private school and they dont care for gender bullshit. And here in West Aust lady tradies are a small but growing group.
Does M0ntifa live in Cartoon World?
Are all MAGA tradies driving pickup trucks?
C’mon man! (In best Joe Brandon voice).
He’s a hideously ugly authoritarian fascist imbecile (BIRM).
No, no and no, again.
Let’s see where aspirational voters sit after three years of Elbow & Co. in league with climate change extremists, esp. if it’s open slather on borders again.
And if you think plumbers live in struggletown, you’re about a century and a half out of date.
If this is to be the blog of the montezuma’s revenge, with cracks like that about plumbers, count me out.
Falinski, Zimmerman and Josh are just duds, that’s all there is to it.
Does Allegra Spender, Zoe Daniel, Sophie Scamps, Rebekah Sharkie have any jewish ancestry?
If so, then that argument is put to rest.
Lee
No prizes for guessing who the other one is (who claims to be a Liberal supporter).
But sounds a lot more like an American so-called “liberal/progressive”, a rather different beast.
Has the Poot dumped a tactical nuke on Davros yet?
Perhaps he’s waiting until tomorrow. We can but hope.
Meanwhile, here’s muttley’s favourite fascist technocrat – the Standartenführer.
Holly Hughes on Chris Smith’s show on Sky admitting that Liberals were wrong not to consider and propose nuclear power. This is already a plus of the Libs losing the election, real world ideas can now be considered.
munty
If you want a Tradies Party then start one of those, don’t pretend that the party of Menzies can become the party of the plumber’s crack.
Menzies wanted a party that (among others) included small business. Independent tradies operate small businesses. Do try to be at least vaguely close to the history.
There’s a fine line between “aspirational” and “houso” in the outer suburbs. The Liberal Party’s policy platform is about keeping the housos poor, and it doesn’t do much for the aspirationals either.
If the Libs really want to become the party of Menzies’ forgotten people again, they will have to take more than a few leaves out of the Howard playbook with increased taxes to fund handouts for the middle class. Which you lot will hate, of course. There is not much crossover between tradies and ideological conservatism. They will vote with their wallets, so you’d better be prepared to tell the IPA and Steve Kates to go shove it.
So you think the AEC fixed Hinkler?
Please essplain.
Why did they fix one electorate for the LNP but allow teals and ALP to run rampant elsewhere?
Yeah, no.
The other option is to go nuclear on their house sized backsides. As I said to Cassie this afternoon, “This Is War”.
No prisoners will be taken.
If Susan Ley is the new Libs leader Labor will win the next election without any difficulties. Ugly or not, Dutton is way more preferable to Ley who is now on Sky spruiking renewables.
Calli @3:24
Spot on.
Barnaby, through his silence, is no different.
More money for infrastructure in “the bush”.
Sure.
Dutton won’t go the Abbott route of lying about everything he’s [really not] going to do to get a win.
That’s what doomed the Coalition, Abbott’s first 18 months.
He lost all his 2013 gains and it’s a credit to Turnbull that he was able to win in 2016.
Though they mighta bin better off losing then, as it turned out.