Open Thread – Tues 14 June 2022


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thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 15, 2022 7:12 pm

There are so many parents to this abortion of an energy policy

Asking whos responsible for the pregnancy is like asking the piece of wood which tooth on the bandsaw cut it.

And Monty.
mcClown is about to shut down 2 of the 3 remaining coal powered power stations (the 2 government ones) and stampede towards ruinables.
He will do so because Barnett carved out a state allocation of gas from the big producers ensuring mcClown doesnt pay the market gas price.
Whats the bet WA has blackouts after the transition takes place due to lack of supply?
Currently we dont have any (except from cyclones or short term damage).

Frank
Frank
June 15, 2022 7:14 pm

That Tucker Carlson link from upthread is pretty savage. Hope he has good security, for real.

Frank
Frank
June 15, 2022 7:15 pm

Dr BG: I was always pretty happy with the Cantor proof too. After a while.

bespoke
bespoke
June 15, 2022 7:19 pm

DrBeauGansays:

June 15, 2022 at 7:02 pm

Very good 9/10.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 15, 2022 7:21 pm

Rowan Dean is a dumb person’s idea of a smart person

A dumb person’s idea of a smart person is a 17 year old ranga who’s never had a job arguing economics with economics professors.

Yackman
Yackman
June 15, 2022 7:21 pm

a request to a Cat of mathematical bent.
How can the variability of wind generation be assessed. I cant see how to get historic data from the NEM.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 15, 2022 7:26 pm

You mean the risk of this wasn’t factored into financial instruments whose purpose is to manage risk?

The answer will be buried in manuals and pdfs not opened since the day they were written. More than a few people will be getting $1000+ an hour to find out.

m0nty
m0nty
June 15, 2022 7:28 pm

I’d love to hear your origin story, KD.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 15, 2022 7:29 pm

Dr BG: I was always pretty happy with the Cantor proof too. After a while.

Brouwer and the intuitionists don’t like infinite sets. The sequence of natural numbers, 0,1,2,3 … makes them unhappy. They argue that what you’ve got here is a process for generating a successor and not a sit-me down and look at it thing.

This is just a choice of which language to use; my view is that the best choice should depend on what you can do with it and not on how uncomfortable you are with it. The bloke on zipster’s link feels differently.

cohenite
June 15, 2022 7:29 pm

The cultists of alarmism are obviously not happy with Pell’s scalp:

Archbishop accused of promoting climate change denier’s views on anniversary of Pope’s landmark letter

The denier is Plimer who has more knowledge in his big fat little finger then these fucking alarmists have collectively.

MatrixTransform
June 15, 2022 7:31 pm

I’d love to hear your origin story, KD.

wtf … is this a gay bar?

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 15, 2022 7:33 pm

mUnty own your ignorance. We were all ignorant at 17. Some of us still are. Keep working on it.

132andBush
132andBush
June 15, 2022 7:34 pm

feelthebern says:
June 15, 2022 at 6:26 pm
The ideology of AGW.

AGW has nothing to do with not having 2 or 3 times the number of interconnectors.

The lack of dam building over the past 50 years has more to do with NIMBYism than AGW too.

I take your point.
Maybe “Environmentalism” then.

The no habitat destruction and everything is endangered mindset.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 15, 2022 7:44 pm

The no habitat destruction and everything is endangered mindset.

Some folk like watching horror movies, and some like pretending they’re living in one.

Frank
Frank
June 15, 2022 7:44 pm

wtf … is this a gay bar?

To be fair, Monty has been twerking all over the place in a leather g-string all day.

rickw
rickw
June 15, 2022 7:45 pm

The Plan – New World Order Australia – Jeremy Lee 1991

Jeremy clearly had a time machine…..

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 15, 2022 7:46 pm

JCsays:

June 15, 2022 at 12:51 pm

The Bobbsey Twin’s stock (Atlassian) was $202 last Thursday ( they must have been doing cartwheels), today it’s 167. 17% down

I suspect someone has been trying to prop up the price.
Even with pitifully low liquidity in the stock, they are still pushing it uphill with a pointy stick.

P
P
June 15, 2022 7:53 pm

The cultists of alarmism are obviously not happy with Pell’s scalp:

Archbishop accused of promoting climate change denier’s views on anniversary of Pope’s landmark letter

The denier is Plimer who has more knowledge in his big fat little finger then these fucking alarmists have collectively.

After puting up the above link on the Weekend 11 June thread I then sent it to others.
I received today this email:
I called the Archbishop’s office today and spoke to his personal assistant. I wanted to thank him for allowing a balanced debate and view to be aired. Surprisingly, I was told that they have had a lot of responses to the article with 50% supporting his decision to have Professor Plimer speak. They also said the ABC had tried to make the Archbishop a target.

calli
calli
June 15, 2022 7:53 pm

Want some Gothic Horror. Woman in Black on SBS world movies.

An interesting performance by an adult Daniel Radcliffe.

rickw
rickw
June 15, 2022 8:03 pm

think I’ll go petrol cos its cheap, quiet and ubiquitous

I would go spark ignition, running on petrol or preferably gas. In real SHTF it would be possible to get it running on wood gas.

I don’t think we should be thinking that we’re just trying to have equipment ready to deal with a minor glitch. The potential for a major fuck up is baked in already.

I have even been thinking about buying an old petrol/kero powered fordson major. Again, ability to get it running on wood gas in extremis.

Frank
Frank
June 15, 2022 8:03 pm

Swiss Army Man is another one of Daniel Radcliffe’s films which is pretty offbeat. Modern day slapstick with fart jokes.

rickw
rickw
June 15, 2022 8:12 pm
calli
calli
June 15, 2022 8:17 pm

Frank!

That image requires brain bleach.

The Woman in Black is less scary.

calli
calli
June 15, 2022 8:21 pm

That was the one of twerking, not Radcliffe.

One of the first roles he took after Harry Potter was the youth in Equus.

He also played the title role in Our Boy Jack, an excellent movie about the tragedy of war and Kipling.

JC
JC
June 15, 2022 8:25 pm

Sanchez

As I said a few weeks ago, I don’t like seeing bad shit happen to anyone, but I make an exception for those two dickheads.

rickw
rickw
June 15, 2022 8:27 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 15, 2022 8:37 pm

JC at 1:02.

Dot, this little arse hair (get a load of the spindly little beta fuck) was indirectly boasting about having a family office and recently was bignoting that anyone Musk fired he would hire.

Funny thing is, in the midst of him bagging Musk out as being old-fashioned for wanting people to return to the office and touting Atlassian as a “work from anywhere” company, they were telling users of their latest software release that it had security issues which meant it shouldn’t be used over the innernet until security was fixed.
Or even local intranets.
Work from anywhere, huh?

Zipster
Zipster
June 15, 2022 8:37 pm

Brouwer and the intuitionists don’t like infinite sets. The sequence of natural numbers, 0,1,2,3 … makes them unhappy. They argue that what you’ve got here is a process for generating a successor and not a sit-me down and look at it thing.

This is just a choice of which language to use; my view is that the best choice should depend on what you can do with it and not on how uncomfortable you are with it. The bloke on zipster’s link feels differently.

something can be wrong but still useful

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
June 15, 2022 8:41 pm

Rickw

Found out my mate hadn’t watched “ the big short” after we both agreed on the new scariest statement that seems to be popping up a lot.

“ this time it’s different” should inspire fear about whatever the topic is.
Our new Treasurer used it the other day to dismiss stagflation fears.
No explanation why it was, just “ this time it’s different”.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2022 8:41 pm

130,000 SLR’s melted down (really really dumb now that 5.56 resistant body armour is now relatively common).

You mean those of the “old and bold”and the “ruthless and toothless” who can strip and assemble an SLR – blindfolded – have to find a new party trick?

NoFixedAddress
NoFixedAddress
June 15, 2022 8:42 pm

JC

What have you done to my USA investments?

You have stuffed the markets.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 15, 2022 8:42 pm

cohenitesays:
June 15, 2022 at 6:16 pm
At least in Australia we get a Labor government to clean things up occasionally.

Fat boy shitting out his mouth.

Don’t be too unkind to m0nty-fa. Remember when KRudd took over in 2007. He inherited a massive budget deficit, huge Commonwealth debt, and an economy with an incredibly high unemployment rate. And in only six years, he and Gilliard fixed everything up, leaving a balanced budget, no nett Commonwealth debt and ……

Hang on, was it really like that??????

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 15, 2022 8:49 pm

130,000 SLR’s melted down (really really dumb now that 5.56 resistant body armour is now relatively common).

Ive done quite a bit of testing of Body Armour plates of various types, and it seems to me that 5.56 is more (not less) likely to defeat armour than .308, due to its higher velocity.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 15, 2022 8:50 pm

m0ntysays:
June 15, 2022 at 6:26 pm
Rowan Dean is a dumb person’s idea of a smart person. No wonder he’s popular on here.

Whereas m0nty-fa is a smart person’s idea of a dumb person. No wonder he’s so unpopular on here.

Armadillo
Armadillo
June 15, 2022 8:51 pm

The Democrats must be pretty close to considering a timely assassination/suicide/accident for the CIC by now. Possibly just before the mid-terms. It’s time for Joe to go.

Zipster
Zipster
June 15, 2022 8:51 pm

The bloke on zipster’s link feels differently.

I put the quote out there, because I thought it was an interesting viewpoint. It certainly feels like we are heading into a dark age and that we are in a race against time and the odds to avoid it. I wouldn’t have said we are in a dark age already. But then again perhaps what he says has some credibility and we are already flirting with the edges of darkness.

I don’t know about cantor’s one. Haven’t looked at any of that for decades.

But the copenhagen is er… feels like someone’s been reading eastern philosophy. The two slit and related experiments can in fact be resolved without the mumbo jumbo if we consider time to be two dimensional.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 15, 2022 8:53 pm

feelthebernsays:
June 15, 2022 at 6:35 pm
Speaking with a trader at an investment bank this evening, they are in head scratching mode.
How do you honour derivatives contracts when the regulator is setting prices & volumes & recipients.

Having (gleefully) destroyed any semblance of a market for electricity, the regulators will next move onto related markets, such as derivatives.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 15, 2022 8:55 pm

MatrixTransformsays:
June 15, 2022 at 6:42 pm
No. As Matrix quite rightly points out, there are a lot of parallels to be drawn.

j’ismist putting words in other people’s mouths

Standard practice.

amortiser
amortiser
June 15, 2022 8:57 pm

thefrollickingmole says:
June 15, 2022 at 9:58 am
Doom, DOOM, DOOOOOOM!!!!
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jun/15/sea-level-rise-in-england-will-force-200000-to-abandon-homes-data-shows
Sea levels around the English coast are forecast to be about 35cm higher by 2050. Added to this, foreshores are being eroded, which leads to higher waves, especially when there are storms.

The estimate of nearly 200,000 homes and businesses at risk of abandonment comes from researchers at the Tyndall Centre, in the University of East Anglia, published in the peer-review journal Oceans and Coastal Management.

Ha ha!!! The same mob who brought us the climategate emails. Don’t they ever learn.

In 1988 the climate models aka settled science predicted that unless co2 emissions were reduced, the Maldives would disappear below the waves in 30 years and there would be 200000 climate refugees as a consequence. The situation was so urgent the government of the Maldives conducted cabinet meetings under water for dramatic effect. What was the actual outcome 30 years later in 2018 after co2 emissions were even higher than initially predicted in 1988?

No discernible difference and in the interim the Maldives built a new international airport and 20 new tourist resorts. These are not the actions of a government that believed that prediction.

Now they are doing it again using the same number of displaced people but a different geographic location.

Cassie of Sydney
June 15, 2022 9:07 pm

“Want some Gothic Horror. Woman in Black on SBS world movies.”

Given that blackouts are looming and I might be spending some time in the dark, I think I’ll give scary gothic horror stories a miss.

I remember the BBC version of the Woman in Black back in the early 1990s……..effing scary. That and The Turn of the Screw and Ann Rice’s book “The Witching Hour” still send chills down my spine.

Winston Smith
June 15, 2022 9:10 pm

Frank:

To be fair, Monty has been twerking all over the place in a leather g-string all day.

Bloody ‘ell, Frank.
Imagery warning, please.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 15, 2022 9:14 pm

Looking nat the many excretions by m0nty-fa today, I am led to the conclusion that the reason he abandoned Phat Pussy wasn’t political harassment by Steve from Brissy and Homer. It was that he realised that compared to them, he was low IQ. Which is odd, because compared to normal people, they present as low IQ.

rickw
rickw
June 15, 2022 9:16 pm
P
P
June 15, 2022 9:17 pm

I checked out The Woman in Black (2012 film):
Budget $15 million, Box office $130 million.
That’ll do me for tonight I thought, then I read “gothic supernatural horror film”
Wikipedia
Definitely not for me.

rickw
rickw
June 15, 2022 9:18 pm

National Security Is Energy Security

Something no Australian Government Mong understands.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2022 9:19 pm

Nuclear submarine officers’ affair was national security risk
John Reynolds
Wednesday June 15 2022, 12.01am BST, The Times
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Two highly respected Royal Navy officers who had an affair while serving on nuclear submarines have been thrown out of the military for compromising national security after discussing top secret information by email.

Lieutenant Sophie Brook, 30, the first female warfare officer on a nuclear submarine, was seen as a “trailblazer” and had been tipped to be the first female captain of a navy submarine.

However, a court martial ruled that Brook and Lieutenant Commander Nicholas Stone, 37, put the secrecy of the Trident nuclear deterrent at risk by sharing classified submarine movements, which could have been intercepted by an enemy.

According to the Daily Mail, Bulford military court in Wiltshire was told that the information about the Vanguard-class submarine HMS Victorious “would have been useful to an enemy” and endangered the “cornerstone” of the nation’s nuclear deterrent.

The court was told that the messages, which were sent to the Yahoo account of Stone, a married father of two, were part of a “clandestine sexual relationship” between the officers. The newspaper reported that the judge berated their behaviour, saying they had “compromised the security of the continuous at-sea deterrent”.

Brook, who joined the navy aged 18 in 2011, was a watch leader aboard Victorious in 2020. Stone, who has served in the navy since 2003, was a security officer on HMS Ambush.

The submarines were based at HMNB Clyde at Faslane, 25 miles from Glasgow. In July 2020, Victorious was about to sail for operational patrol. The court martial was told that on the day of sailing Brook sent a number of emails to Stone using her secure MODnet account, a Ministry of Defence secure communications system, the newspaper reported.

The emails included “the location of the submarine for the next few days, the direction of travel, speed, diving depth and confirmation of the sailing time”, Commander Peter Barker, for the prosecution, said.

The court was told that Stone replied to these emails but did not question why she had sent this information to an unrestricted email account on Yahoo — it meant the same information was sent back to her as part of the chain.

“He made no attempt to report the breach, knowing it was his duty as she was his subordinate, and knowing it would likely reveal their relationship,” Barker added. The breaches were discovered by another officer before the submarine departed. Brook was allowed to remain on the submarine for the five-month patrol.

David Richards, defending Stone, said that “he was foolish and stupid and made a mistake”.

Sentencing the pair, Judge Advocate Darren Reed said Brook’s culpability was higher “because you deliberately disclosed this information”.

Stone, of Portsmouth, pleaded guilty to one charge of disclosing information useful to an enemy and one charge of negligence of duty. He was handed a four-month prison sentence, suspended for 12 months.

NoFixedAddress
NoFixedAddress
June 15, 2022 9:20 pm

If Biden and Trump were to hold a joint press conference, it might look something like this.

https://twitter.com/mazemoore/status/1536353154731745280

Bluey
Bluey
June 15, 2022 9:20 pm

flyingduksays:
June 15, 2022 at 8:49 pm
130,000 SLR’s melted down (really really dumb now that 5.56 resistant body armour is now relatively common).

Ive done quite a bit of testing of Body Armour plates of various types, and it seems to me that 5.56 is more (not less) likely to defeat armour than .308, due to its higher velocity

There’s also the problem that a big slow round might technically not defeat it, but when it’s pushed into your body or compresses/breaks your ribs, you’re not going to be a happy camper.

rickw
rickw
June 15, 2022 9:23 pm

The Democrats must be pretty close to considering a timely assassination/suicide/accident for the CIC by now.

I don’t think they need to be particularly creative, he seems to be one breath away from karking it most of the time.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2022 9:23 pm

Mossad ‘poisoned Iran scientists at dinner’
Anchal Vohra
Wednesday June 15 2022, 12.01am BST, The Times
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Israel has been accused of poisoning two Iranian scientists at the dinner table in a spate of suspected Mossad hits inside Iran.

Ayoub Entezari, 35, who was an aerospace engineer at a missile and drone research and development centre in the city of Yazd, fell sick after returning from a dinner party on May 31 and died of suspected poisoning.

The host who invited him has since vanished, according to The New York Times, which said it had been told by Iranian officials they were pinning the blame on the Israelis.

Kamran Aghamolaei, 31, complained of nausea and diarrhoea after returning to Tehran from a business trip to Tabriz 330 miles away, and died on June 2 of multiple organ failure. He was a geologist, but according to reports in Hebrew and Persian media worked at the Natanz nuclear facility.

Iran has not publicly assigned blame for their deaths. They followed hard on the assassination of two or perhaps three men linked to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

Don’t fvck with MOSSAD!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 15, 2022 9:26 pm

I’d love to hear your origin story, KD.

Oh, all right then.

The sea was angry that day, my friends……

It was 1990. Townsville. Together with a bunch of other young blokes (all assembled were half-shot) I watched Michael O’Connor kick truly from the touchline in pissing rain, thus elevating NSW over the Quenthlanders at the final whistle.

It was only several years after that when Billy Moore (I believe) began the ‘Quenthlander’ chant while walking out of the race during the Origins, thus infuriating the rest of the country for decades.

Not an economics professor in sight.

Winston Smith
June 15, 2022 9:27 pm

https://www.cityam.com/breaking-car-industry-in-shock-as-department-for-transport-scraps-all-grants-for-electric-vehicles/?mc_cid=a73ed7e7c4

Motoring groups have criticised the government’s decision to scrap subsidies for newly purchased electric vehicles (EVs), fearing it could dissuade buyers from entering the market.
In a shocking blow the car industry, the Department for Transport (DfT) has revealed that £1,500 grants for purchases of new electric cars that cost under £32,000 have been ditched.

Well, they would say that wouldn’t they?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 15, 2022 9:28 pm

But the copenhagen is er… feels like someone’s been reading eastern philosophy. The two slit and related experiments can in fact be resolved without the mumbo jumbo if we consider time to be two dimensional.

Zipster, a language can’t be wrong unless it’s inconsistent. It can be weird and make you feel uncomfortable, but that’s not a good reason for giving up on it.

How does a two dimensional time resolve the two slit experiment?

The Copenhagen interpretation merely says that we should limit our theories to what observations can produce and eliminate the metaphysical. Newton had very similar objectives.

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 15, 2022 9:31 pm

There’s also the problem that a big slow round might technically not defeat it, but when it’s pushed into your body or compresses/breaks your ribs, you’re not going to be a happy camper.

Blunt injury behind the armour (aka the ‘back signature’) generally produces nothing more than a bruise – this is because it is determined principally by momentum, and cannot be more than the recoil force experienced by the firer – indeed, as range increases it becomes considerably less. I saw quite a few ‘back signature’ bruises in Iraq, but nothing more serious.

calli
calli
June 15, 2022 9:32 pm

Not nearly as scary as The Ring.

It’s all rather silly. Spray on cobwebs and all. They even made Victorian automata look creepy.

Sleep tight girls. 😀

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 15, 2022 9:37 pm

Zipster. The notes of J.D. Cresser of the university of Adelaide on QM are very readable and intelligent. I think they are free online. I got sent a copy by a friend. If you can’t find them, I can email you a copy.

I want to know how two dimensional time helps. I’ve not met this idea.

rickw
rickw
June 15, 2022 9:39 pm

Ive done quite a bit of testing of Body Armour plates of various types, and it seems to me that 5.56 is more (not less) likely to defeat armour than .308, due to its higher velocity.

The trend seems to be towards larger than 5.56 (6.8) and high velocity to defeat newer body armour.

In extremis you could probably work up a .308 round that performed better by taking the lessons of the new 6.8X51 and applying them to it. Given that the USA just added a new calibre to its inventory it would seem that 5.56 is at the end of potential.

Luzu
Luzu
June 15, 2022 9:39 pm

Has anyone noticed that Monty always gets one uptick?

Hmmmm.

Does anyone wanna bet he dicklessly upticks himself each time?

Sad.

MatrixTransform
June 15, 2022 9:43 pm

Question: I’ve been using my split system for heating past 2 years. Should I be giving the gas heater a clean and switch back?

yr gas heater is probs about 40MJ
rough guess 40 MJ is about 1 cubic meter of nat gas
it used to be about $0.02/MJ so something like $1/hr to run yr gas heater
little bit less maybe

40MJ works out around 13 kW
and to get a splitty to move 13kW would take about 4kW electrical
so like $1.1/hr if it was running at full-tilt the whole time

thing is, gas is reportedly going up in price big-time
so, I’d say nah use the split.
expecially if you have any solar on the house and are at home during the day

sink money better insulation and double-glaze yr windows

m0nty
m0nty
June 15, 2022 9:45 pm

It was 1990. Townsville. Together with a bunch of other young blokes (all assembled were half-shot) I watched Michael O’Connor kick truly from the touchline in pissing rain, thus elevating NSW over the Quenthlanders at the final whistle.

It was only several years after that when Billy Moore (I believe) began the ‘Quenthlander’ chant while walking out of the race during the Origins, thus infuriating the rest of the country for decades.

Not an economics professor in sight.

Worst Marvel movie ever.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Calli; Recently you made mention of rubbing shoulders with the southern squattocracy & National party rusted-ons, at the Royal in Roma.

I’ve not seen the Royal since it burnt down. In a past life I used to be across the road in the School of Arts (notable for the enclosed widow’s walk which there was one helluva view)
I’d love to have had that building later on. (sigh)

On my office wall I’ve a large photo of a horse team bogged in the street outside the Royal, being pulled out by a bullock team. (A most instructive & clear demonstration of the relative gear ratio between horses & bullocks.

The Royal was one of the pubs that was “hit ‘n’ run” by undercover police & liquor licencing officers during covid restrictions. They must have been incredibly horrible & intimidating, as the duty manager ended up in tears, unable to cope with the way she was being treated.

I’m told the new building (after the fire) is quite something & the sorta design I’d really like. I’ve seen photos. One of these days I’ll jump in the car & go for a drive down that way to see how the place looks.

Please, how does it look in real life, & what does it feel like to be inside?

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 15, 2022 9:51 pm

Luzusays:
June 15, 2022 at 9:39 pm
Has anyone noticed that Monty always gets one uptick?

I had noticed that. My theory is that he and Dick Ed give each other upticks. Misery loves company, after all.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 15, 2022 9:51 pm

Want some Gothic Horror. Woman in Black on SBS world movies.

Both versions will make you scared of the dark.

Megan
Megan
June 15, 2022 9:54 pm

A $2 billion water desal plant ended up costing Victoria over $5 billion

And 70km of useless and ugly pipeline across central Victoria designed to transfer water from the Murray-Goulburn to Sugarloaf. Took out 12 km of trees in the Toolangi State Forest, is an eyesore and supposedly is meant to operate when water storages in Melbourne drop below 30% full.

Turned on in February 2010 and off again in Spetember due to heavy spring rains and has not, to my knowledge been spoken of again.

m0nty
m0nty
June 15, 2022 9:54 pm

I have never given any Cat post a tick, least of all mine.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 15, 2022 9:56 pm

So it is Dick Ed, looking for congenial company.

calli
calli
June 15, 2022 9:57 pm

Sal, it’s a good pub. It had the feel of a gutted building rebuild now you mention it – very industrial, with mezzanine over the bar area. Quality work. I didn’t know its history.

Food was excellent, happy hour half price drinks. Politicians and their satellites provided the floor show, foc.

Five stubbies.

calli
calli
June 15, 2022 9:58 pm

M0nty, you have a secret admirer. 😀

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 15, 2022 10:00 pm

Worst Marvel movie ever.

I’d pay to see the Fat Man actually kick a ball.

And I’d pay double to see JC to a Lucy to the Fat Man’s Charlie Brown… 😉

#FantasyFootballDoneRight

#AAUGH!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 15, 2022 10:01 pm

Five stubbies.

I hope you didn’t drive home after that much, Calli…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 15, 2022 10:03 pm

I have never given any Cat post a tick, least of all mine.

Monty finds them a bit too hard to dig out of his skin…

calli
calli
June 15, 2022 10:05 pm

It was a pub score, not a record of consumption.

Roma is a nice town, shame we didn’t spend more time there. So many beautiful inland towns here all with their own unique character. Maybe next time.

m0nty
m0nty
June 15, 2022 10:05 pm

I reckon it’s Steve. You know he lurks.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

It had the feel of a gutted building rebuild now you mention it

There was nothing “gutted” about the state of the building post fire. Nothing.

It was ashes. A 100-year old dank dark two storey wooden pub with full length balcony. They were lucky the whole block didn’t go up. She burned hot & fast. There’d have been a helluva lot of Radiata pine.

Here’s an ABC story with photo of the pub afire. The foreground is the School of Arts Hotel, (you can see the base of the widow’s walk.)

The new pub is a total new build, right from scratch.

Megan
Megan
June 15, 2022 10:07 pm

M0nty, you have a secret admirer

.

Well yes, secrecy would be essential to avoid nuclear level ridicule.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 15, 2022 10:07 pm

Five stubbies.

Good to see someone having a quiet night during the school week.

calli
calli
June 15, 2022 10:12 pm

I see what you mean. Clever architect.

The street view is a hat tip, modern style, to those verandahs. Shame about the old building.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Thanks Calli. The mezzanine & atrium in the public bar, with two storey glass front is the sort of thing I’ve always dreamed of doing, alas have never had the opportunity.

Someone’s actually gone & done it. I’m keen to have a really good look at it.

Roma is/was notable for having Eleven pubs, each with a generic pub name (Railway, Union, Imperial, Club, School of Arts, Commonwealth, Royal, Commercial, Federal, Empire & Queen’s Arms – I think, it’s years since I’ve been there.)

NoFixedAddress
NoFixedAddress
June 15, 2022 10:15 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 15, 2022 10:17 pm

Worst Marvel movie ever.

It involved something you lack. Living.

You’re just another theory drone, indulging your whims because someone else got you to the point where it’s not critical that you actually earn anything. In that sense, the reference to movies wasn’t really surprising.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2022 10:25 pm

Roma is/was notable for having Eleven pubs,

Back in the “roaring days” of the gold rushes, Kalgoorlie had 97 pubs…….Any newcomers boasting about their ability to hold their drink were bet they couldn’t drink a teaspoon of beer on the first pub, two teaspoons in the second, and doubling the quantity at each hostelry…

cohenite
June 15, 2022 10:28 pm

Not nearly as scary as The Ring.

The US version with Naomi Watts:

https://www.imdb.com/video/vi1593377049/?playlistId=tt0298130&ref_=tt_ov_vi

1408 is worth a look to.

m0nty
m0nty
June 15, 2022 10:34 pm

You’re just another theory drone, indulging your whims because someone else got you to the point where it’s not critical that you actually earn anything.

… are you on drugs?

132andBush
132andBush
June 15, 2022 10:34 pm

m0nty says:
June 15, 2022 at 9:54 pm
I have never given any Cat post a tick, least of all mine.

Theory confirmed.

NoFixedAddress
NoFixedAddress
June 15, 2022 10:35 pm

I thought Roma was renowned for tomatoes.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Crikey Zulu, there wouldn’t have been enough beer in Kalgoorlie to back that one up.
Not that anyone would get that far.

That’s up there with shoeing a horse for 1c for the first nail, 2c for the second nail, etc.
…. only much worse.

By about the 10th pub she’d be up to a full keg. Somewhere around the 20th pub it’d have blown out to around two thousand kegs.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I thought Roma was renowned for tomatoes.

Huh?
It’s point of distinction in the 1970’s was having a commercial vineyard & winery.

Of all things, there’s a patch of Mulga country to the east of town.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2022 10:42 pm

Crikey Zulu, there wouldn’t have been enough beer in Kalgoorlie to back that one up.

Kalgoorlie was the town where water was hideously expensive, so a group of local businessmen paid for one of the barmaids from a certain pub to have a bath – in champagne.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 15, 2022 10:46 pm

John Sheldricksays:

June 15, 2022 at 2:55 pm

make hearty Aussie tucker like a schnitzel

Err. That is not Aussie tucker. 

I suspect KD was taking the piss out of a certain couch potato.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2022 10:50 pm

Regarding the ANZAC’s, in Greece, in 1941, Max Hastings’s book “All Hell Broke Loose” refers to General Sir Thomas Blamey as “the seedy old reprobate, commanding the Australian Corps..” (Page 119.)

Quite apt, I thought.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2022 11:01 pm

Kalgoorlie was the town where a table full of pretentious wonkers thought it fine sport to reduce the waitress to tears, it was her first night on the job, and they were being as obnoxious as possible.

The manager, made aware if the situation, emerged from his office, and threw a Domino’s Pizza voucher onto the table.

“Eat there, in future. I don’t want you back again. I don’t need your business – customers are beating at the doors to eat here, and I can’t get staff.”

Zipster
Zipster
June 15, 2022 11:05 pm

I want to know how two dimensional time helps. I’ve not met this idea.

There is a scene in Interstellar where McConaughey looks through the bookshelf across time from inside a black hole that led me to the idea. I spent some time developing it when I was stuck in lockdown.

In a nutshell, the 2-slit interference pattern which implies self-interference in sequential time can be seen as accumulation of historical information paths in 2-time. what we think of as normal time can be seen as sequential time viewpoint. the additional dimension can be thought of as parallel time or viewpoint. This makes 2-time holographic. What looks like nonlocal information transfer are conservation of information flows in 2-time. It also does away with the idea of the wave collapse.

There’s a lot more to it, it’s not so simple to wrap your head around.

The idea certainly isn’t new but have not found anyone that’s applied it to the 2-slit experiment and its derivatives.

Bruce in WA
June 15, 2022 11:12 pm

This is not a bad video (although the bloke is a twit) comparing the penetration of various calibres against Level 3 armour.

NoFixedAddress
NoFixedAddress
June 15, 2022 11:48 pm
Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 16, 2022 12:03 am

Seems The Woman In Black ripped off the denouement from Drag Me To Hell.
Drag Me To Hell wins. Sometimes, you’ve got to know when to cut, cruelly.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 16, 2022 12:30 am

The Cat is moving to Texas

REPORT: Caterpillar Moving Headquarters From Chicago To Texas

I believe their primary bulldozer plant is there.

And they build all their locomotives* in Muncie, Indiana.

*Caterpillar bought out Electro-Motive Diesel from GM in 2010. And in the process, it picked up most of EMD’s foreign licence holders too.

They go by the name Progress Rail.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 16, 2022 12:32 am

m0nty says:
June 15, 2022 at 10:05 pm
I reckon it’s Steve. You know he lurks

Spack off, Benito M0ntylini.

Steve of Brisbane purity-checked you so hard, I’m pretty sure he’s already written to the Party Congress to have your ‘Proud Leftist’ badge and Elephant Stamps revoked.

#PersonaNonGrata

NoFixedAddress
NoFixedAddress
June 16, 2022 12:38 am

for outback publicans in qld

https://growersown.com.au/tomatoes-roma-10kg/

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 16, 2022 2:13 am

Outrage as Australia’s energy crisis worsens with hospitals ordered to reduce electricity use and millions warned not to use appliances at night: ‘We’re rationing power like a 3rd world country’

* Sydney hospitals ordered to reduce electricity use amid unfolding energy crisis
* Health staff asked to reduce air-conditioning to 20C and avoid using printers
* In the middle of winter, NSW households were told to conserve electricity
* Advised not to use dishwashers and other appliances to avoid a blackout
* National Electricity Market was suspended for first time ever on Wednesday
* Instead the Australian Energy Market Operator is controlling the power supply

Daily Mail – article says Albo will hold an emergency meeting on Thurs…

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 16, 2022 2:21 am

Steve from Brisbane AND the furniture store?

Ugh, I’ve got to go and have a shower. Where did I put the steel wool pad?

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 16, 2022 2:25 am

Albo taking remedial classes in holding the hose. Apparently he passed RBA Cash Rates 101 but the answers have changed now. Shades of Whitlam wherever you look.

Tom
Tom
June 16, 2022 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2022 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2022 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2022 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2022 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2022 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2022 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2022 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2022 4:15 am
Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2022 4:42 am

green beans … $38/kg

Musta been frosts in Gympie … fuck that, i’m blaming Albanese.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2022 4:46 am

A $2 billion water desal plant ended up costing Victoria over $5 billion. The Westgate tunnel is the most expensive tunnel in world history. Yep, lets get the government to build an inefficient power supply. It makes lots of sense.

Just bypass the Victorian and South Australian Governments.

JC
JC
June 16, 2022 5:35 am

How’s it possible that the Cat’s musoes experts missed a huge date- one even the staid old WSJ picked up?

Roxy Music’s Debut Album Turns 50
The British band repurposed disposable rock culture and wrapped it in American glamour

Rabz, you have a lot to answer for.

bespoke
bespoke
June 16, 2022 5:42 am
bespoke
bespoke
June 16, 2022 5:58 am

callisays:

June 15, 2022 at 9:58 pm

M0nty, you have a secret admirer.

Obviously JC.

rickw
rickw
June 16, 2022 6:11 am

Salty on the school shooting fix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8mclKe8V8k

bespoke
bespoke
June 16, 2022 6:28 am
JC
JC
June 16, 2022 6:37 am

If the GOP can prevent the cheating, the rats will be lucky to win 120 seats in the new Congress.

It’s would be
415 GOP
120 Rats

Tonight Republicans made history and won “one of the most Hispanic districts in the entire country.”

A dominant effort from the entire team: @mikethomia, @mrdavejohnston, @TorunnSinclair & most importantly @MayraFlores2022

Republicans are just getting started

Gabor
Gabor
June 16, 2022 6:47 am

In cheating, the rats have the runs on the board, while as Cassie o S said the good guys are wimps when it comes to fighting back.

Or they are on the same side anyway.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2022 6:51 am

Is the Fed Reserve the last in a long line of institutions to cede any credibility?

U.S. inflation:
Jan. 2021: 1.4%

Feb: 1.7%
Mar: 2.6%
April: 4.2%
May: 5.0%
June: 5.4%
July: 5.4%
Aug. 5.3%
Sept: 5.4%
Oct. 6.2%
Nov: 6.8%
Dec: 7.0%
Jan. 2022: 7.5%
Feb: 7.9%
Mar: 8.5%
April: 8.3%
May: 8.6%

When they saw that July data building on the two previous months, they should have started 25bps a month from there.
So late July should have been the first rate hike.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2022 6:52 am

GOP will max out around 350, JC.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2022 6:54 am

An emergency 25bps in late July would have been painful for markets.
But not a patch on the pain that’s is being, going to be felt.

JC
JC
June 16, 2022 6:55 am

It’s harder to cheat in congressional elections -especially house seats. At least I suspect it it because it’s precinct based for the house and more people are watching without the distraction of the presidential race. having said that, I wouldn’t discount the Rats trying to call off the election as Cronkite suggests. He was right about the cheating in 2020 so I’m not going to turn a deaf ear to his call.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2022 6:57 am

It’s harder to cheat in congressional elections -especially house seats.

Very true.
This is why the DNC only has the slimmest of majorities in the House while..ahem…Biden got 81mill votes.
The 2020 election saw the greatest number of votes cast where the only thing on the paper was the presidential vote & nothing else (which was 12-14 things to vote for in some states & counties).

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2022 7:04 am

Being able to post on your social media that you had your 6 month old jabbed is the new gold standard of adhering to the Cathedral’s stance.

FDA Advisers Endorse Pfizer, Moderna Covid-19 Vaccines in Young Children

Covid-19 vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna were recommended for kids as young as 6 months by FDA advisers. It’s the last major group waiting for the shots.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2022 7:06 am

“Republicans are just getting started”

It will be red tsunami however one of the Squad is predicting civil war if that happens. What is it with the left and violence?

Hugh
Hugh
June 16, 2022 7:07 am

flyingduk:
June 15, 2022 at 9:31 pm

Blunt injury behind the armour (aka the ‘back signature’) generally produces nothing more than a bruise – this is because it is determined principally by momentum, and cannot be more than the recoil force experienced by the firer – indeed, as range increases it becomes considerably less. I saw quite a few ‘back signature’ bruises in Iraq, but nothing more serious.

That is interesting, thanks.

Do you think the same would apply in the case of a 12ga solid slug at <20m?

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
June 16, 2022 7:12 am

The Feds are rising interest rates by 0.75% . Triple any previous rise in recent years. So their strategy has been ‘quantitative easing ‘ or print money , near zero % interest rates ….and then panic!

How could they not see inflation was getting comfortable and growing?

Will the Feds also stop printing money? You know the old one foot on the brake and the other on the accelerator.?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 16, 2022 7:14 am

Evidently The Hun is turning into a satire site:

Six in ten young Australians have been smacked repeatedly by their parents

Yep, and fair enough too when required;

and are nearly twice as likely to develop anxiety and depression as other teens and adults, new research shows.

Aaaaand racing. Quote of the year, without a hint of shame:

“Children deserve equal protection against physical violence as adults,” one of the lead researchers, Australian Catholic University Professor Daryl Higgins, said.

The Australian Catholic University’s Professor Daryl Higgins might want to check with the Sister of Mercy and the Christian Brothers before launching into statements of this type in future. I copped some frightful hidings from both, with a ‘deserved’ rate of about 70%.

The preliminary results from the Australian Child Maltreatment Study

No way that organisation would have a predetermined outcome:

shows 61 per cent of Australians aged 16 to 24 experienced corporal punishment from their parents on more than three occasions as a disciplinary strategy while growing up.

Probably a bit low, depending on who they asked – which, along with ‘how many were asked’ isn’t revealed.

…. females who experienced corporal punishment from their parents were 1.8 times more likely to have a major depressive disorder in their lifetime, and 2.1 times more likely to experience generalised anxiety. Males were 1.7 and 1.6 times more likely to develop depression and anxiety respectively.

The O’Keefe defence. Someone else’s fault.

132andBush
132andBush
June 16, 2022 7:19 am

What is it with the left and violence?

Let’s ask monty.
He’ll be finished his “punch a NAZI” rounds by 0900 and should be able to explain it.

calli
calli
June 16, 2022 7:21 am

I’ve just been blatantly lied to.

“In the modern age, fossil fuels are unreliable and too expensive”.
“Renewables are cheaper”.
“We are hostage to fossil fuels.”
“We need batteries in houses”.

Someone called “Ben” in Canberra. I presume he is a Seven reporter. A fool in a suit doing sad face as the falsehoods slip out effortlessly. This is what feeds the dumbos on the other side of the TV set.

The final nail from Natalie Barr, “Thanks Ben for explaining it”.

Dot
Dot
June 16, 2022 7:21 am

“Children deserve equal protection against physical violence as adults,” one of the lead researchers, Australian Catholic University Professor Daryl Higgins, said.

No they don’t. Kids who don’t get smacked are on a hell bound path to violence and gaol.

My friend who didn’t believe in smacking, son of a single mother etc: married into a farming family. He is now a very traditional parent, except being an agnostic.

He lives his children. He has friends that had scrapes with the law, no sane parent wants that for their children.

Of course these academic crackpots equate lawful chastisement of a child with child rape, so…not long until they actually support it. Roll the 1970s ABC tapes please.

mem
mem
June 16, 2022 7:21 am
Vicki
Vicki
June 16, 2022 7:22 am

Well I guess we are on our way to becoming Romania in our institutionalising of our infants.

It has been announced this morning that, on an apparently national basis, “early childhood learning”(AKA) will be extended, financed by the state, for another, earlier, year. Not unsurprisingly, this has been joyously welcomed by women announcers in particular.

Sadly, the care & nurturing of the nation’s children has been transferred to strangers in the interest of acquiring material comfort and careers for women. It is my firm conviction that the mental health issues, lack of resilience & various issues of our teens these days can, to a large degree, be traced to the lack of maternal care in their infancy.

I speak with personal experience in our own family where a grandchild’s period of mental problems was actually diagnosed as an Attachment Disorder. Before anyone says this is psycho gobbledly-gook – I have to say it accorded with my observation.

Dot
Dot
June 16, 2022 7:22 am

He loves his children. He can’t move on the astral plane and live vicariously through them.

calli
calli
June 16, 2022 7:23 am

All Seven does is “interview” their own tame “experts”. Just like the ABC, there is never an alternative point of view.

Time to switch the shit off.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2022 7:23 am

Since Feb 2022, the Fed’s balance sheet has been around 8.9trill, which means they have stopped printing money. They’re just not withdrawing it yet.

To put that into perspective, the RBA’s balance sheet is around 609bill which is down from the all time high in early March of 650bill.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2022 7:24 am

Alan Jones…“we can have renewable energy or reliable energy…..BUT NOT BOTH.”

Don’t know about others, but I choose reliable.

Dot
Dot
June 16, 2022 7:24 am

It has been announced this morning that, on an apparently national basis, “early childhood learning”(AKA) will be extended, financed by the state, for another, earlier, year. Not unsurprisingly, this has been joyously welcomed by women announcers in particular.

This is seriously fucked in the head. The state wants your child from 3 until 21.

So we rob them of childhood, family and choice. Condition them to coercion.

Institutionalising is bad, but calculated infantilisation is stupid and evil.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2022 7:25 am

Time to switch the shit off.

Dover, can you please make Calli’s comment a liberty quote?

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2022 7:27 am

Alan Jones…“we can have renewable energy or reliable energy…..BUT NOT BOTH.”

We can have both.
But in Australia, that means close to a trillion being spent on energy storage over the next decade.

sfw
sfw
June 16, 2022 7:29 am

Re the 2 slit experiment, dunno about two dimensional time but Sean Carroll reckons we live in an Everretian multiverse, it sounds crazy but it does make the twin slit thing understandable. He even explains a couple of experiments that would produce evidence of the multiverse. Well worth the time to listen to his podcasts.
https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2014/06/30/why-the-many-worlds-formulation-of-quantum-mechanics-is-probably-correct/

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2022 7:29 am

My mother used the wooden spoon on us. It was never “wait till your father gets home”. She dealt with it there and then. I remember her running after my sister, who could be rather insolent at times and was frequently very naughty, whacking my sister with the wooden spoon which broke. My sister laughed and laughed and my mother, infuriated, went out and bought some heavy duty French wooden spoons which never broke and after you were whacked by one, the imprint was there on the skin for all to see.

Vicki
Vicki
June 16, 2022 7:30 am

Further to my previous comment – it is of my only major lifetime regrets that I did not look after my daughter’s children full time while she pursued her career. My husband and I did, to our great delight, take them on many holidays with us & nurtured them whenever they were sick, but did not care for them full time. My reason was that I had stayed at home with my own child until she was eight years old, struggling to complete a PHD in those years.

However, the decision not to look after those little ones full time is the only real regret I have in my long life. I believe the dressing up of child care as “childhood learning” is just one of the disastrous euphemisms of modern times.

JC
JC
June 16, 2022 7:30 am

Just to digress from politics, economics and whether Driller owns a Four Seasons hotel chain or just a crummy FNQ motel.

Illy coffee has come out with these pods. We bought an Illy machine in the US specifically for these pods. Without a doubt it’s the best coffee I’ve had as the machine dribbles out the espresso very slowly.

They sell the Iper pods here but I can’t figure out the machine it uses.

Also, the pods are plastic , so if you’re environmentally conscious then you can’t buy them. I had real guilt trips about this issue.

Hahahahahhahahahhahahaha, Just kidding. I didn’t.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2022 7:31 am

“It has been announced this morning that, on an apparently national basis, “early childhood learning”(AKA) will be extended, financed by the state, for another, earlier, year. Not unsurprisingly, this has been joyously welcomed by women announcers in particular.”

Socialism.

JC
JC
June 16, 2022 7:37 am

I’m really in two minds about this. On the one hand I want Trumpster to run, win and moon the Left everyday he’s in the White House. He deserves it for the things they did to this poor dude. It was beyond evil.

On the other hand, I think The Donald is too old to run.

DeSantis is just prefect.

An unscientific Cernovich poll.

@Cernovich
·
22h
If the Republican primary were held today, who would you be most likely to support for POTUS?

DeStantis 59.7%
Trump 22.5%

Hugh
Hugh
June 16, 2022 7:37 am

Cassie of Sydney:
June 16, 2022 at 7:29 am

Same thing in my family, only it was me getting the wooden spoon broken over my rear end.

Dot
Dot
June 16, 2022 7:41 am

How does a voltage gate work in a many worlds interpretation?

(Obvious troll).

Winston Smith
June 16, 2022 7:49 am

No Fixed Address:

I thought Roma was renowned for tomatoes.

No.
You’re thinking of Bendemeer and it’s about bananas.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 16, 2022 7:50 am

The “extra year of early schooling” idea isn’t going down too well with some readers of the Daily Tele. Some comments:

John:
My daughter’s Yr 10 English teacher spends the majority of his time lecturing the class about global warming instead of teaching them Shakespeare. I hardly think paying him more money will change his appalling teaching methods.

William
Won’t do a thing for student outcomes and just allows the Marxists an additional year to indoctrinate children.

Melissa
Great idea, as long as no social engineering involved.

Peter
Yes, need to start indoctrinating them with woke nonsense as soon as possible.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2022 7:53 am

JCsays:
June 16, 2022 at 7:37 am
I’m really in two minds about this. On the one hand I want Trumpster to run, win and moon the Left everyday he’s in the White House. He deserves it for the things they did to this poor dude. It was beyond evil.

On the other hand, I think The Donald is too old to run.

DeSantis is just prefect.

President de Santis should give Trump the Cabinet level position of Administrative Reform Tsar. The watch the bureaucratic head explosions.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 16, 2022 7:54 am

Yerg.

Lambie on the teev, looking even more Shrek-esque than usual.

No stars.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 16, 2022 8:00 am

It’s dead calm and an absolute pea-souper out.
Don’t know if a little old lady got mutilated late last night.
None the less:
Beware the moon.
Keep to the road.
Stay off the moor.

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2022 8:02 am

Mem at 7:21, Greens will not hold balance of power, Lambie will since Labor and Greens have 38 Senate seats combined. They will need one more vote to pass legislation. Get ready for a Lambie lovefest in the media over the next three years.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2022 8:05 am

Can Lambie be speaker/president of the Senate?
That would be awesome.

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2022 8:06 am

BJ, Trump is not too old to run and I too want him to do it just for the revenge. He would not serve in anyone else’s admin, there is no way he would accept anything less than the presidency.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
June 16, 2022 8:09 am

Via Quadrant OnLine.

https://notrickszone.com/2022/06/10/german-economics-expert-sees-6-formidable-problems-with-germanys-green-energy-push/

Problem No. 5: E-cars are not clean

One problem today already, using Germany’s current electric energy supply mix, electric cars are emitting far more CO2 over their lifetimes than conventional combustion engine vehicles.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 16, 2022 8:09 am

So has there been ‘progress’ in the Red-Flag laws in the US? I see Branco’s cartoon is highlighting the compromise between members of the GOP and Dems.

‘Compromise’ for the left meaning their opponents surrendering and the left getting their way.

Same as when you hear them say ‘We need a conversation’ they mean ‘We will lecture you then you will agree with us’, or ‘controversial/divisive’ meaning that 99% of the country are in agreement with each other but not with the left – the 99% are wrong. (Funny how when they speak of ‘controversial’ they don’t mean there is controversy – that there are strongly held opposing opinions, but that they have decided one side is right and the other wrong.) How many Australians really believe that most of their fellow citizens think blokes in women’s sport is OK? Yet to say so is controversial and divisive – just look at how they labelled and attacked Katherine Deves.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
June 16, 2022 8:13 am

As I said yesterday, Wokeworths is virtue signalling.

https://spectator.com.au/2022/06/woolworths-price-fixing-will-have-unintended-consequences/

Big business once again finds itself wearing the veil of virtue while benefiting from Australia’s economic woes.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2022 8:15 am

“Lambie on the teev, looking even more Shrek-esque than usual.”

One of Clive’s gifts.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2022 8:16 am

“‘Compromise’ for the left meaning their opponents surrendering and the left getting their way.”

Yeeeeep.

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2022 8:16 am

I don’t watch morning television even on the days I am home from work. It’s all repetitive idiocy. The only reason I watch Seven’s news at night is not that it’s great, the others are worse.

Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2022 8:18 am
Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2022 8:20 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2022 8:21 am

On the other hand, I think The Donald is too old to run.
DeSantis is just perfect.

Fact check: true.

Trump should get out of the way and concentrate on being the GOP’s all-powerful godfather (which he already is).

President DeSantis will be the best thing to have happened to the US in a century.

Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2022 8:23 am

earth was once “venus like” before climate change
as is so often the case, the WEF has their story wrong way ’round

but here is where this starts to get interesting:

because while venus may never have been earth like, earth was once decidedly venus like.

multi-cellular life on earth began about 500 million years ago, but earth has been here far longer. the hadean period spanned the period from 4.6bn to 4bn years ago. we still have some rocks that date back this far and studies of zircons show liquid water on earth 4.4bn years ago despite surface temperatures around 450 degrees F. this was possible because of immense atmospheric pressures in the 100 bar range. (100x present, higher than venus is now) earth may have even had sulfuric acid clouds.

bottom line, hadean earth sucked. you didn’t want to live there. probably, nothing did.

Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2022 8:25 am
Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 16, 2022 8:32 am

On the other hand, I think The Donald is too old to run.
DeSantis is just perfect.

Fact check: true.

Trump should get out of the way and concentrate on being the GOP’s all-powerful godfather (which he already is).

President DeSantis will be the best thing to have happened to the US in a century.
Yer both wrong.
Trump is old but not aged. He’s got energy and can take on a yuge workload, both for campaign and office, which for what it’s worth can only be another term- then a handball to de Santis, what’s not to like?
Plus, Trump is in no way a Godfather figure, or even a father figure, to the GOP establishment. He’s a hitman which they can reasonably say they’ll endorse as a ring-in for the dirty work, and then there’s de Santis for 2028 for a return to normal progamming.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 16, 2022 8:33 am

The article does not clarify.

A) Garter snapping.
or
B) Failed to strategise their conformity.

Tom
Tom
June 16, 2022 8:41 am

Trump’s main task as GOP godfather will be to clean out the party’s double-dealing corruptocrats — Cocaine Mitch, Lindsay Graham etc plus all the RINOs, like the 10 senators currently supporting the confiscation of guns.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2022 8:42 am

Biden Climate Czar John Kerry says by “2035” the United States will “only be producing electric vehicles.

The grid in the US is teetering on the edge like here. No sign they’re building any real capacity for all those dildos-on-wheels. Surber picks up on the Left’s insanity this morning:

Just the News reported, “Todd Myers, director of the Center for the Environment for the free market Washington Policy Center, thinks Gov. Jay Inslee is being coy about his support for breaching four dams on the lower Snake River.

Myers tweeted, “Last week, Gov. Inslee gave implicit support to destroying the Snake River dams and 8% of Washington’s electricity generation.

Today he sent an email warning about electricity shortages this summer.”

Meanwhile the WH is urging the proles to buy electric cars:

Biden Officials Again Tell Americans To Buy Electric Cars (16 Jun)

How can a government this crazily illogical exist? They’re mad.

Winston Smith
June 16, 2022 8:45 am

Boambee John:

President de Santis should give Trump the Cabinet level position of Administrative Reform Tsar. Then watch the bureaucratic head explosions.

You devious bastard. 🙂
+++

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 16, 2022 8:46 am

Do you think the same would apply in the case of a 12ga solid slug at <20m?

A typical .308 projectile weighs 165gr and has a muzzle velocity of 2600fps. Converting to metric, that yields an energy of about 3400J and a momentum of 8.5 kgm/s (apologies for odd units!)

A bad mother 3″ 12g slug weighs about 440gr and has a muzzle velocity of about 1750fps. The similar parameters are energy = 4000J and momentum 15kgm/s

Thus, the slug has a bit more energy, but nearly TWICE the momentum, meaning it kicks at the shoulder more (ask me how I know), and also ‘punches’ the plate harder. It is, however, slower, softer and has a bigger frontal area than the .308 and will thus have much less penetrative ability.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
June 16, 2022 8:53 am

Prof Jim’s latest missive. His is the voice that should be listened to.

https://spectator.com.au/2022/06/they-love-the-sound-of-their-own-voice/

Now move here to Australia and the mooted (but yet to be detailed) proposal for a ‘Voice’ to Parliament. I’m against this on all sorts of grounds, but two big grounds are …

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2022 8:56 am

Consensus on QLD ABC radio this morning that the energy market should be returned to state hands.

QLD energy minister promising more renewable generators and storage that will be publicly owned.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 16, 2022 8:56 am

All Seven does is “interview” their own tame “experts”

They are confident Australians will still be cowed by the appellation ‘expert’, and that an expert on a subject speaks on behalf of the subject matter so seamlessly that there is no knowing where the expert ends and the subject matter begins.

As I may have said previously, an expert in astronomy 150 years ago was a devotee of Newtownian physics. Fifty years ago the expert would be an adept of Einsteinian physics. These days they doggedly scour the heavens for signs of racism and misogyny. And privilege.

An expert is an expert in a theory. Any field with more than one theory will have more than one flavour of expert. There are classical economists and keynesian economists. Both are experts and each will disagree with the other. Properly one theory will prove more useful than the other and the ascent of that theory will result in the ascent of its expert – except in economics where the sheer inertia of institutions and scleroses of bureaucracy cannot be overcome by merit.

An image that I have heard used is one where a theory is like a blindman’s cane. With the cane he can discern much about the world he lives in – shapes, solidity, texture, inclination, orientation, gaps etc. But what if he began to mistake his cane for the world? That is where so many ‘experts’ are at.

When a house ‘expert’ is wrong they are eruditely wrong. They are wrong in a way which must nevertheless be honoured, respected, and accepted with a degree of solemnity for the effort and subtle thinking that went into what turned out to be an error. An non-‘expert’ who is right? Luck. Nothing to respect in luck. It is just…luck.

We have just come through a period of tyranny under the dominion of experts. A ‘Reign of Error’, with each state staffed by suddenly powerful Robespierres coercing people to virtue through fear. But look at the history of mistakes, and it is already starting to fall apart. Two years is a long time to live through something, but it is brief for a big lie.

If we could get people to be a little more circumspect about the value of experts, seeing them as people with a story rather than unchallengeable Sybils of Climate Science, epidemiology, energy etc. Look at how expert the expert is.

Many are just turds playing with their stick.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
June 16, 2022 8:56 am

Flying Duk.

Perhaps a calculation of the kinetic energy (1/2 m v^2) would be instructive.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 16, 2022 8:58 am

How can a government this crazily illogical exist? They’re mad.

Happy to report that we are purchasing a new vehicle, trading an Audi Q5 for a sporty Beamer, and absolutely an all-petrol model. A present for my eightieth birthday coming up. Yes, they will ration petrol to force people to go electric but for the next five years I intend to drive a sports model internal combustion climate denier pushing its performance to the hilt while the pump network still exists.

After that I don’t care. They will make me do a driving test at 85. Till then, making hay with petrol.

End of an era?

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
June 16, 2022 8:59 am

2024

Trump for President, de Santis for VP.

m0nty
m0nty
June 16, 2022 8:59 am

Figures. You all act as if you got smacked as children.

Bluey
Bluey
June 16, 2022 9:02 am

Thanks for the interesting experiences with body armor duk, I have to admit my experiences were more or less limited to “wear it so there’s less bits to pic up”, and tales from people like yourself.

As for DeSantis vs. Trump, Trump needs to clear the way. He’s not enough of an extremist now. DeSantis is a better option, because I reckon the US is heading into the territory they will elect a strongman to make everything get back to order. DeSantis will probably do that, but also respect the republic. Pretty anyone else I can think of, it will lead down the path Rome took to dictators and emperors.

Was also reading last night DeSantis has a net worth of about $250K, and owns very little if any stocks. So, unless he’s hiding it better than 99% of the rest, he’s probably genuine.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 16, 2022 9:03 am

Everyone is suddenly wise after the event – except about the wrong event.

Behold, David Crowe in the SMH, presenting what has become conventional wisdom since last Sunday:

Energy crisis: A crash we all saw coming but did nothing to stop

After years of slow failure in plain sight, the Australian energy system has hit the wall. This is a moment like the collision at the end of a slow-motion crash test video when the car crumples under pressure. Anyone watching could see the jolt coming for the crash test dummies.

Ok.

Australia has not installed enough renewable energy quickly enough and has failed to provide enough storage for that energy. The withdrawal of coal-fired power has been under way for years and the country is still not ready despite the warnings. The high price of gas has been forecast for years and is sending electricity prices soaring.

Slight cognitive bust.
Yes, destroying the low-cost dispatchable coal-fired generation system with nothing to replace it but high-cost gas was rooly, rooly stupid.

But 15-20 years ago, when the car crash “everybody could see coming” really started in earnest, there was no alternative (other than nuclear). Batteries were not an option and there is insufficient hydro capacity on the eastern seaboard.

And fuckers, exactly like David Crowe, were talking about moral hazards – and not about how stupid it was to use a high price fuel for base load generation.

Even today, with the car crash entering everybody’s homes and workplaces, gooses like Crowe still don’t see the car crash unfolding.

Sure Australia could go out and commit to build ~80GWh of battery storage and ~60GW of additional renewable generation to keep it charged and supply the grid. If everything worked out well, that could give us a reasonable 90%/95% system availability. (Although with international Robber Barons providing the capital, power would get seriously expensive – but that’s another issue.)

But the necessary $600/$700 bn investment would need to be substantially replaced in 12 years, and completely replaced within 20 years. And the sunk cost would be a permanent drag on technology upgrades.

That sort of money would buy Australia a tradable nuclear industry and deliver power at world scale prices. However nuclear will not be considered because of the politics.

So, unfortunately, it’s 97.3% likely that Australia is on the threshold of making a panicked series of bad, bad choices – choices that will make the Covid response look thrifty, slick and well considered.

There are a few alternative starting dates for the process that led us here. But mark this down as when things really started downhill.

Apologies; this is the last rant in the series.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2022 9:03 am

One of Clive’s gifts.

That reminds me.
It is nearly four weeks since Fat Cloive told us he had video evidence of AEC officials taking votes home from polling booths.
That has gone vewwy vewwy quiet.

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2022 9:05 am

Ironic headline of the day:

Australian award winning novelist John Hughes plagiarised ” veryobscure” novels The Great Gatsby & All Quiet on the Western Front in his 2021 novel The Dogs (no, I’d not heard of him or it either.

Both Gatsby & All Quiet are still in print after almost a hundred years and Gatbsy featured in the high school curricula until the recent bias towards Australian authors developed, none of whom can write like F. Scott Fitzgerald.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2022 9:06 am

Same thing in my family, only it was me getting the wooden spoon broken over my rear end.

My late father was often heard to lament the passing of the old fashioned razor stop as an unsurpassed instrument for keeping wayward sons in line.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2022 9:07 am

Thus, the slug has a bit more energy, but nearly TWICE the momentum, meaning it kicks at the shoulder more (ask me how I know), and also ‘punches’ the plate harder.

The Waterloo breastplate is pretty good example of such things. The velocity would’ve been relatively slow, but the ball went through like the armour wasn’t there.

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