So, time for another gun-grab raid on the law abiding man of the land, then?
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Spent all morning looking for my car keys, becoming increasingly convinced this was a sign of early dementia. That -…
I’d tell her I don’t fancy her chances with him.
It was supreme and nauseating virtue signalling. Why do I feel this way? Because whilst Europe and the world love…
Well done Albo. In the times of a per capita recession, cost of living crisis, housing crisis and energy crisis,…
There’s stacks of help wanted signs in my area. Even got a advertisement in the mail today promoting a career in a well known company. Now that I’m going to be permitted to work again, I’m wondering if it’s worth the effort to find something in Victoria, despite my ties here.
Does anyone trust maximum leader not to play stupid games again? Given his commitment to every virtue signaling stupidity like renewables, and the quality of the liberals, is there going to still be work in a couple of years?
‘Experts’ have been so wrong on just about everything Adam Creighton
Yep. + a gazillion
Ahem. I would very much suggest you can – both with kinetic assistance (ie, rocks) and the odd supplemental canine.
The opportunistic pricks with take the path of least resistance and choose somewhere else.
*thunderous applause*
Diesel in Mt Beauty this morning $2.50/litre, maybe because the school hols start this weekend and the ski crowd will be up en masse.
Re “60 yrs ago how many housewives would (even if no longer doing) have the following;
Been unable to kill & dress a chook”
When I was around four or five, over 60 years ago, I remember sitting out the back of the outside toilet with my grandmother as she plucked and cleaned a chook before my birthday. My mum, born in the bush could never bring herself to do it, she has a phobia about chook feet, strange.
Good luck in recruiting for Special Air Service and the Commando’s.
The Democratic Party’s electoral coalition is crumbling. The party is being deserted by the blacks and latinos whose support the party has taken for granted for decades and the November midterm elections are looming as a bloodbath.
At the same time, establishment Republicans have deserted their voters and are enthusiastically supporting the mad remaking of America by the Marxists driving the Biden agenda.
A brilliant piece of journalism by Tucker Carlson Tonight.
Efficacy of Natural Infection Vs. Vaccine Two Brand New Studies from Israel and Qatar
Drbeen Medical Lectures
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha I’d suggest there’s problems recruiting full stop. The push for DIE, women in combat, etc. etc. there’s not a career there for blokes the way there was. Why stick your neck out for people that hate you?
I wouldn’t enlist these days. Spend more time getting lectured about social justice, equity and diversity than doing the job.
Is being in “transition” or a representative of an approved minority group a requirement? Or have the pools of available candidates from these categories been depleted already?
Enjoyed the comments about voiding insurance above.Had a lovely experience when living in Malaysia.Had to cancel a trip because of illness so the airline ticket was made open ended.
Tried to claim on travel insurance to recover hotel costs etc.
Oh no was the response “Your trip has not been cancelled, it has been postponed, so no you cannot claim.”
So says I , does that mean when we rebook the trip , that you will cover us for the new dates.
“Oh no, ” was the response, ” You will need a new policy”.
All of this delivered with the fakest of fake politeness. Topped off with final comment “Anyway it sounds like the medical condition was pre-existing so the claim would be denied anyway” .This was absolute bullshit and based on nothing.Luckily it was only a few hundred bucks .
Don’t agree, Cassie. I think we should always be kind. In this case, kindness consists of telling them they are nuts. Supporting a delusion is not doing them a kindness.
Blake Lemoine tells ‘Tucker Carlson Tonight’ he was put on administrative leave after cautioning the firms artificial intelligence is sentient. #foxnews #tuckercarlsontonight
Experts get it wrong often because they bear few personal consequences of their advice. The accuracy of past predictions or assessments is rarely checked.
The epidemiologist Ferguson from Imperial College has got every one of his predictions wrong this century.
Even after the spectacular failure of his early Kung Flu predictions (and his open contempt for them, demonstrated by him ignoring restrictions based on them), media intellectual giants and bureaucrats were still seeking his later (equally wrong) predictions months after.
Zipster, it isn’t sentient because it has no sensors. It knows nothing about the world, its knowledge is confined to language.
Did he agree to do so?
DIE?
Diversity, inclusion & equity?
China has more useful idiots in the west than the USSR ever dreamt of controlling.
*Hurry up and surrender, bigot!*
Agree DBG
Just this week I randomly joked to a someone whose young relative has been in the Army for a few years now, and asked “have they got him learning Chinese yet?” and the answer was “yes”.
The WEF’s latest treachery, as advised by more WHO ‘experts’: SuperClap (the NT News):
And:
And:
I mean obviously, this is the latest instalment in Klaus’ plan to depopulate the Earth before 2040, and by 80% through climate change and war and famine and various forms of pestilence, including this one.
There are none so blind as those who cannot see this. Mentally sick denialists. Scoffers and sneerers who will all be dead soon.
Only by following the True Path, and selling your boat will you be saved.
Unemployment in the USA expected rise over the next several years. Is this what Australia can expect too?
Former US Treasury Secretary Larry Summers weighed in on the topic recently but was blunter with his message. “We need five years of unemployment above 5% to contain inflation – in other words, we need two years of 7.5% unemployment or five years of 6% unemployment or one year of 10% unemployment,” Summers said while speaking in London.
That would indicate an immediate 1.4% decline in employment within the next few months on the low end of his estimate. Another 75 basis point rate hike is not off the table for July as the Fed has become hawkish in reversing its failed policies. Regardless, the US workforce is expected to take a big hit in the near future due to fiscal and policy mismanagement. The cost of basic necessities is rising, housing is unaffordable, and countless people will lose their jobs. The worst is yet to come.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/economics/unemployment-expected-to-rise/
What? Seriously?
Face the bullets for a system that locked you in your home, for an open ended period, for fear that you might get the sniffles?
A system that shoots you with beanbag rounds for exercising the (obviously) illusory rights that you might now be expected to die for?
GO GET FUCKED!
Only by following the True Path, and selling your boat will you be saved.
I don’t have a boat. How about selling the photograph of gold bars that I have.? The photograph I mean and not the gold bars.
TaliDan is losing a few of the worshipful ministers this the coming election.
Pakula, Merlino and Neville are not standing again.
Pakula was the one who turned the mob loose on a nobody wasn’t it? Absolute scumbag. I’d like to see my local member disappear too, but it’s not likely. Only ever seen the wanker in stuff promoting Dan, never locally. Never got anything back from his office when I’ve written. Safe Labor seat. Mp who’s done nothing outside politics. Everything that’s wrong with the system….
Grrr. I’m getting annoyed about the election already.
Maintain the rage Bluey
– Matt Kean says lights are on 24-7 in his Hornsby office because of a wiring fault
or is it a loser error?
LOL. Apparently on hearing this on talk back radio, a person who is a qualified electrician came online a said – “Incorrect ! A wiring fault will cause the lights not to work……………………….
Face the bullets for a system that tells you, you have no right to be on a land that was stolen from the indigenous..
Rage? I’m not terribly adverse to moving to slitting throats at this point. Maybe that might make an impression. Some of the largest protests in Victoria’s history certainly didn’t.
Face the bullets for a system that demonstrably and actively discriminates against you when applying for a Public Service job*?
* See my thread from yesterday.
Chicken?
How are they going to tell?
War Veteran writes open letter to Adam Bandt over removal of Aus flag from speech background
Thousands of Australians have called for Lisa Wilkinson to be sacked as the fallout from her controversial Logies speech escalates.
Daily Mail
It’s certainly not sentient in the sense a human is. It’s answers though are pretty spectacular. Google isn’t about to let the general public interact with it. Last time microsoft allowed the public to interact with an AI, it was taught a repertoire of obscenities.
Is answering rationally though text a form of perception?
These AIs raise more questions than they answer.
AIs with vision are coming, dale-2 is another spectacular example.
I am pretty convinced we are not far from general AI and super-intelligence. The world is going to look very different in a decade.
more on musk’s dall-e 2 AI
It’s seems to be a huge story with journalists, but newspaper reporting has been almost non existent.
Until Lisa’s speech.
I’d say her credibility is now shot to bits, how can she seriously claim to have been unaware that her speech would most likely kill any prospect of a Trial ever happening?
Very suspicious.
QLD, state of corruption:
4 Labor MPs failed to attend a Crime and Misconduct C’tee meeting today, meaning a decision on releasing the Crime & Corruption Commission’s letter outlining the costs of their investigation of Jacki Trad’s role in appointing a senior public servant has been postponed for the second time.
The Committee had to adjourn as no business could be conducted without the Labor members present.
Has the Governor General any power to make them?
The only way you will get the keys to my boat will be from my cold dead hands
After i run out of ammo
The head of an infamous Pakistani child s3x grooming gang has been revealed to have been serving as a welfare rights officer for the local government council, a major child s3x abuse report has revealed.
Shabir Ahmed, who led the Muslim Rochdale child r@pe gang, has been identified as “Offender A” by Sky News in a child s3xual exploitation in Oldham report this month, which showed that while he was abusing children, he was employed by the local Labour-run council. Despite the Greater Manchester Police force being aware of allegations against Ahmed and his position as a welfare officer for the council, the police force failed to notify the council.
He was the first one to come to mind reading Creighton’s piece.
The only thing I will take issue with is “this century”.
Apart from Kung Flu, SARS and MERS he also spectacularly fucked up BSE (Mad Cow Disease) modelling as well, predicting Armageddon, resulting in the destruction of hundreds of thousands of livestock.
FMD, anyone with a shred of decency and self reflection would have said to themselves, “Maybe I’m no good at this” and put the cue in the rack long ago.
The Committee had to adjourn as no business could be conducted without the Labor members present.
Dock their pay for the trough gobbling they get for being on a committee
100-MAN brawl breaks out in front of terrified families… sparked by WATER PISTOL prank at Berlin outdoor pool
This is the moment a mass brawl broke out at an outdoor swimming pool in Berlin on Sunday, with 100 young men fighting each other.
The huge fight broke out after one group sprayed another with a water pistol at Sommerbad am Insulaner in the German capital’s Steglitz district.
This is said to have developed into a verbal and then a physical argument.
A total of 13 police vehicles arrived with one hundred officers rushed to the scene and arrested several people.
The by-stander footage shows how security and failed to prevent a fight breaking out, but within seconds there was nothing they could do but stand and watch.
So I take it your leaning slightly towards a “No” at this stage?
666.666.666.69
Apologies for the ambiguity…No!
Forensic arson investigators are very good at identifying the origin of a fire (or simultaneous origins in some cases).
Why blow up an insurance recovery of $500k minimum for the sake of a 15 minute cash job by the sparkie (no matter how remote the odds)?
This David Sharaz guy:
Any chance he could be a Spook?
Defiant Christian Wilkins declares ‘masculinity is ending’ as he lashes out at a Twitter troll who said his Logies dress was ‘not normal’
It all colour coded, Sancho.
Get tester and some Woodstock cans.
Christian Wilkins should answer the call from the ADF to join up.
There’s some like minded serving members, some in relativity high ranks, who love to throw on a frock.
If I get deployed, who’s go8ng to protect my wife and kids from our own Government?
Let VicPol do it. They’ve get the shiny new kit, the flash new weapons, the itchy trigger fingers, and a nasty little violent streak which obviously needs an outlet.
Got it “wrong”, did he?
He didn’t even believe his own bullsh*t. He was sprung during the lockdown he promoted visiting his trollop.
The Swamp in the UK is still hanging on:
No, bespoke, even if she was so inclined, which I doubt.
Christian Wilkins should answer the call from the ADF to join up.
There’s some like minded serving members, some in relativity high ranks, who love to throw on a frock.
Some inspiration also from the US.
From watching the vision of that appalling display at the Shrine, I would suggest that VicJack Inc – enthusiastic as they may be – have some work to do in terms of tactics, coherence, communications and the ability to operate such weaponry in a competent manner.
Australian-company-creates-world-s-first-quantum-circuit.
Ed Casesays:
June 23, 2022 at 5:19 pm
This David Sharaz guy:
Any chance he could be a Spook?
Maybe a Flamer?
A notorious kiddy fiddler. Last seen, rising slowly to a stout limb, with a mob of angry parents chanting “Yo heave ho, and up he goes…”
Prick of a creature.
I’ve had Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease for the past 20+ years thanks to him.
It’s only just cleared up.
Indeed they are. Amazing what they find, when they know what to look for.
Hypothetically, and apropos of absolutely nothing – if someone were to upgrade their insurance on a property 12 months or less before it burns, those investigators will rightly or wrongly be all over you like Brittany Higgins on a vodka cruiser.
There was a insurance conference in NYC in the early 90’s. They got forensic and electrical guys to go over all the electrical fires for the previous few years. None of them were caused by faults. The insurance companies were pissed.
You seem to be suffering from contempt.
I’m happy to approve their ‘On-The-Job-Training’ application.
They have my full blessing.
Sadly, in the event of conscription, they’re the bastards who’ll be in the ‘reserved occupations’.
Oops.
Accidentally reported Dr F at 5:48.
Think it was about a decade ago now, the federal government spent more outfitting the federal police tactical response teams than it would have cost to work up another infantry battalion. Maybe it was the army was griping because the Solomon islands was a deployment at the time, I forget the exact circumstances.
Probably a Flaming Spook, worked for the SIS. They’ve had plenty of those in the past.
WHO’s Dr “Ted Ross” reportedly now saying the accidental lab leak covid hypothesis is plausible.
Maybe a Flamer?
No maybe about that.
Is he a Spook as well?
Let me give you a tour. This is the main bedroom and here’s the kitchen, they’re owned by the Federal government. The laundry and loungeroom are owned by the State government. The other two bedrooms are owned by the bank, and this here is what I own! The toilet!
Shared equity schemes are the latest in housing affordability fads – and the NSW version makes zero rational sense (23 Jun)
It’s going to be messy, especially when the politically favoured special people who get the loans don’t make the repayments and default. Disentangling who actually owns what would then be an epic multisided lawyer fight.
I don’t disagree. Anything that I can do on a societal level to obliterate this nonsense, count me in, from writing on blogs or in articles signalling objection, or attending demonstrations.
Even on a personal level, as my examples re trans individuals suggest, I try to insert the seed of doubt wherever possible in the case of gender, and on leftist assumptions in general. Occasionally the personal and the political intersect in a train wreck – as when my daughter-in-law was shocked and horrified to see Hairy and me on SBS TV in the front row at CPAC on US election night. She said the other day that was almost a step too far for her to cope with (she is American and a true Trump hater). I kindly pointed out to her that her anti-Trumpism was almost a step to far for us, so it works both ways. She backed off then. Managing the fraught ‘societal level’ can be a test within families as well as out at large.
I have to keep my world weary cynicism in check when my serving soldier son visits.
Don’t want to demoralise him.
Meme for those with a Hard On for intervening in the Ukraine SMO.
Dr Faustussays:
June 23, 2022 at 5:48 pm
Apart from Kung Flu, SARS and MERS he also spectacularly fucked up BSE (Mad Cow Disease) modelling…
Prick of a creature.
I’ve had Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease for the past 20+ years thanks to him.
It’s only just cleared up.
My family also had it. I certainly won’t bother to donate blood, after being a Leper for 35 years (since RTA in very late 1986.
…
Ray Gillette from Archer.
Any chance he could be a Spook?
Maybe a Flamer?
Combine the 2 and you get a ..
Spomer?
Flook?
Wy do I alwus leave off the second o in too?
I blame the keyboard. It couldn’t possibly be me.
Translated:
The judicial branch amassed more power for the executive branch in a ruling that in yet another circumstance SMBs cannot survive without becoming Big Business and freelancers are less free than they imagined.
(Because power and responsibility are inseparable.)
We’ve spent more than six months eating in England during the wrong period, so we can’t give blood in Australia either due to BSE concerns. We are impure from wayback.
It doesn’t apply in England of course.
Just another one of our OZ public health freak outs.
Wish him all the best, from one of the “in – betweeners.”
From the Oz – I’ve posted the whole article.
Will do, Zulu.
He may be off to the US soon. Top secret!
Being a Flamer goes with the territory.
Remember Ian Fleming, Noel Coward, Burgess, MacLean & Philby?
Course you do …
Calli @05:41
visiting his trollop.
Thanks for resurrecting that word Calli – doesn’t get used enough these days.
Why does someone named Lisa spring to mind?
Electricity overload..
Go hard or go home.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-23/cannabis-grower-electrician-registration-cancellation-overturned/101178148
Top Ender:
TE, I vividly remember being with a very prominent leftish Canberra bloke when he got his ASIO file. We had known each other very well (no, not like that) in the 1970s.
Well, what a garbled, meaningless mishmash it was. A lot of it was factually wrong (e.g. he was not even in the ACT at the time) – it seems that ASIO didn’t do a lot of quality control when it came to their paid informants.
I have mentioned this story previously on Sinc’s, but here it is for new readers.
I was at a dinner party in the 1970s in Canberra where a drunken ASIO officer got under the table and crawled around on all fours and barked like a dog.
Hey, the rest of us were drunk as well, but, really. There are limits.
Settle down, there was never going to be any Trial.
Come on blokes, why dont you join??
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-23/act-portrait-breastfeeding-servicewoman-wins-napier-waller-prize/101176262
ACTU now trolling JC and SRR.
As usual ed-Mongs list of “flamers” includes non poo pushers.
I am quite happy not using any pronouns but the ones that I grew up with and making pronoun determinations of the basis of traditional English usage and indicative male/female allocations.
If someone looks or acts like a man but has women’s clothing on, then he’s still a ‘sir’ to me.
I would certainly never assist in any form filling by asking any man if he was pregnant.
Similarly, if a girl or woman is patently female I will not be referring to her as ‘he’.
And if she’s in the maternity ward she will be a pregnant woman and then a breastfeeding mother.
End this nonsense now.
It was quite a few years ago when ASIO became public knowledge, and at one stage opened their files to various wannabee activists and so on.
Uh huh, as if those were the *real* files. Some people will believe anything.
Electricity overload..
Go hard or go home.
Just imagining the Vikpol raids on those with unusual electrical activity, to find they’re growing the new cash crop, lettuce.
He wasn’t hounded from Office, but even if he was, what’s … with a woman who is now deceased. got to do with it?
That’s the real story, since this person in central to the Porter Affair, yet the Media is taking her uncorroborated word about all the circumstances as if it’s the truth.
Well, they we either pitchers or catchers, CornHolio.
Seems unimportant, but evidently it’s a huge issue with you.
WHO’s Dr “Ted Ross” reportedly now saying the accidental lab leak covid hypothesis is plausible.
CCP cheque bounced?
Russell Brand – Jimmy Dore on Tucker
This Is EPIC
I was informed this morning, at a city based university of technology waffle welcome to country, that I am a mere guest in these lands.
It was all I could do to restrain myself from asking how this statement promotes the inclusion the speaker then proceeded to claim her words were dedicated to. Honestly, it was a bundle of ridiculous virtuous word salad. With dressing.
“Zyconoclastsays:
June 23, 2022 at 5:09 pm”
Here is Mark Steyn’s view on this, uploaded on GB News yesterday. I listened to Steyn describe in detail what happened to one girl and it is very distressing, Steyn doesn’t mince words.
Please listen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i25RZ8aDxY8
A number of pertinent facts…
Fact 1. There are grooming gangs operating as I write.
Fact 2. Nothing has changed, because the UK police are now totally politicised and will not deal with the problem. They don’t want to be seen as “waaaaacist” or “Islamophobic”. UK police are thoroughly woke and too busy knocking on people’s doors for “offensive” Twitter comments mocking transgenderism than protecting and saving young British white working class girls* from being raped.
Fact 3. The UK Labour party, from Westminster through to local councils, is also to blame. UK Labour is now solely concerned with identity politics and courting minorities, particularly one minority. Rather than trying to protect its traditional base, UK Labour has sought to woo the “Muslim” vote and if that means ignoring the rape and sexual abuse of young white girls in working class town like Rotherham and Oldham……so be it. It is beyond a scandal, it is utterly shocking and depraved.
Fact 4. Those who have tried to speak up about the rape gangs, going back over a decade, are smeared as waaaacists , Islamophobes, white supremacists and neo-Nazis.
Fact 5. Rape is a traditional weapon of Islam used to suppress, intimidate and silence peoples that Islam conquers. It has been this way since Mo the Mass Murderer.
* it should be noted that some Sikh and Hindu girls have been targeted in places like Luton but the Sikh and Hindu communities, given the history of Muslim rape in the Punjab, took matters into their own hands.
The Australian Defence Force has put out an urgent call for young Australians to join the force as pressure sets in amid growing aggression from both China and Russia.
The words Get Fucked, spring to mind.
Defending our right to be abused by the fucks in state and federal government. Maybe not.
I started somewhere around there.
I’m now back to ‘the only person who will actually care is some poor bastard in extremis who needs a top up‘.
And I am bloody indigenous. I was born in this country and am a proud Richmond woman.
Maybe not. My tribe is much more linked to the Merri Creek and North Fitzroy. All this country business is confusing.
And then there was the indigenous actress in the weekend lift out that said we will all benefit from learning indigenous languages. After all, she claimed, we all learn French when we go to France, non? She speaks seven but failed to explain exactly which of the 250 tribal ‘languages’ we should be forced to learn in order to be comfortably at home in the country we live in.
Luckily, you have no standi
For Wilkinson, it looks like the worst she will face will be another grovel – which will be the third she has been required to make this month.
She has already apologised for making light of the war in Ukraine and for accusing former MP Andrew Laming of taking an inappropriate photograph of a woman.
For Lehrmann, justice now depends on jurors having poor memories.
How can Wilkinson ever be a witness for the Prosecution. What evidence does she have? Was she an actual witness to the alleged offence? Surely her “evidence” is only hearsay which is no evidence whatsoever.
The Beloved used to be a regular blood donor. Always plenty to spare. 🙂
The blood truck was parked up at the shops, so he thought he’d pop in for a pint. No, no! You must make an appointment, said Blood Karen.
There was no one in there.
He hasn’t been back and probably never will again.
it was a bundle of ridiculous virtuous word salad. With dressing.
Thanks Megan – I’ll be stealing that phrase.
ABC fanning victim outrage because the Catholic Church didn’t make a fanfare of the death of a convicted pedo priest Vincent Ryan (who, please don’t misunderstand me, was a criminal scumbag of the first order):
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-23/fury-at-catholic-church-response-to-death-of-paedophile-priest/101176666
But where is the outrage that the ABC has never even reported on the conviction of its own serial pedo Jon Stephens, let alone mentioned his death, or the death of its Brisbane serial pedo Bill Hurrey?
Just turned on Sky.
Some Aussies have donates an ambulance or two to Ukraine.
Hopefully they pop an apple tag on it somewhere so donors can ensure the things aren’t on-sold.
How can Wilkinson ever be a witness for the Prosecution. What evidence does she have? Was she an actual witness to the alleged offence? Surely her “evidence” is only hearsay which is no evidence whatsoever.
Anything Brittany Higgins told Wilkinson would not be “hearsay”,
schmendrick.
… or the death of its Brisbane serial pedo Bill Hurrey?
Bill Hurrey wasn’t a Pedophile, he was a convicted Pederast.
There’s quite a difference, so get your facts straight.
I certainly won’t bother to donate blood, after being a Leper for 35 years (since RTA in very late 1986.
As I spent a year back in the UK during 1990/1991, then to date I have not been allowed to donate blood as per the Red Cross rules. I previously had donated blood. I may have carried the “Mad Cow Disease” from my UK residence during 1990/1991 . Mooooooooooo – No Way methinks.
These rules are now to be relaxed by the end of this year I do believe.
However, should I ever need a blood transfusion then I wish to have the blood donated by a person who has never been jabbed with these doses (Covid 19 drugs). Hmmmmmmmm. Now I wonder whether the Red Cross will ever differentiate between the blood donated by the jabbed and the “unjabbed”.
Those vaccines are so genius you don’t have much to worry about. And a fair bit of field testing I observe.
Bill Hurrey wasn’t a Pedophile, he was a convicted Pederast.
There’s quite a difference, so get your facts straight.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Pederast
p?d??-r?st?
noun
A man who has sexual relations, especially anal intercourse, with a boy.
One who is guilty of pederasty. Also pederist.
One guilty of pederasty; a sodomite.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
More at Wordnik
Sounds very sick to me.
Genius=Tenuous.
It’s hearsay, but admissible under one of the exceptions to the rule*.
You can say in evidence that you had a conversation with someone about X, Y and Z – but a jury cannot draw any inference that the content of that conversation is true.
*From Blue Heelers, Season 4, Episode 1 ‘Sergeant Croydon Makes A Whoopsie’.
Anything Brittany Higgins told Wilkinson would not be “hearsay”,
schmendrick.
Fair enough “Head Case”.
Anything Brittany Higgins told Wilkinson would not be “hearsay”
Unless it was a recent complaint, that is was contemporaneous with the alleged rape, anything Mrs pirate has is hearsay. And if it was a recent complaint it would only be evidence of consistency of the accusation not proof of the accusation.
So Lisa Wilkinson does have standing.
Settle down, there was never going to be any Trial.
Well Head Case, maybe the ACT Judiciary will now have the Case go ahead but without a Jury.
Most blokes – all right, some blokes – complain that their ladeeee other halves are expensive to maintain. Those blokes can STFU (the Hun):
$10 large, per day. Still liking that fat arse, Channel Ten?
Only if such a statement is more probative than prejudicial.
What is it probative of?
Ed Casesays:
June 23, 2022 at 6:26 pm
For Lehrmann, justice now depends on jurors having poor memories.
Settle down, there was never going to be any Trial.
Are you going to inform the judge? She seems to have a different opinion.
Courtesy of Jo Nova Blog
The Ministry of Truth was quietly axed in the US after just three outrageous weeks.
The New York Post Editorial Board, May 18th
Nina Jankowicz just quit and the Disinformation Governance Board is dead. It’s the best possible ending to a move that was demented from the start.
Whatever the Department of Homeland Security thought the DGB would do, the board’s ham-handed launch (and very name) could only feed the direst suspicions. The US government has no business determining what’s “disinformation” — certainly not via an Orwellian shadow department, housed within a national security agency.
Celebrate the wins.
Megansays:
June 23, 2022 at 6:50 pm
And I am bloody indigenous. I was born in this country and am a proud Richmond woman.
Maybe not. My tribe is much more linked to the Merri Creek and North Fitzroy. All this country business is confusing.
I am a proud Caucasian-Australian of the Irish, Dutch and Germanic peoples (with just a dash of Pommy).
John Sheldrick
However, should I ever need a blood transfusion then I wish to have the blood donated by a person who has never been jabbed with these doses (Covid 19 drugs). Hmmmmmmmm. Now I wonder whether the Red Cross will ever differentiate between the blood donated by the jabbed and the “unjabbed”.
Perhaps you need to pre-donate, then store and receive back, your own blood? Is this possible?
And here’s more of Mark Steyn from GB News, again just uploaded onto Youtube today, talking with a woman from Rotherham, she’s clearly working class, with a broad accent and she doesn’t mince words…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXvlDvkO5NU
BTW…GB News is one of the few UK media organisations willing to talk about this.
MASS PSYCHOSIS – How an Entire Population Becomes MENTALLY ILL – Terence Mckenna
Boambee Johnsays:
June 23, 2022 at 7:53 pm
Perhaps you need to pre-donate, then store and receive back, your own blood? Is this possible?
Now there is a thought. If possible, I would probably need to do this on a regular basis as the donated blood has a shelf life. My very own Blood Bank……………..
Fact 4. Those who have tried to speak up about the rape gangs, going back over a decade, are smeared as waaaacists , Islamophobes, white supremacists and neo-Nazis.
Cassie I know I have mentioned before. Family member who has lived in Europe and actually does now but not GB has a friend of Turkish ethnicity but born in Oz. The friend and I have met her is Muslim but secular, I had no idea till I was told. She also in some sort of social work as a profession. The friend was involved with the Rotherham victims when working in GB. She was so disgusted with the whole fiasco I was told she had to have a sojourn while the investigation went on. That I find galling.
The Ministry of Truth was quietly axed in the US after just three outrageous weeks.
We see it as a win. They see it as part of a long term softening strategy that moves the Overton window.
NSW now 91% coal and gas. 9% cow farts and other wind sources.
A new Beavis and Butt-head movie is out today. Tagline appears to be “on June 23 the world will get smarter” which is hard to argue with.
Already in the can?
ABC News Posts, Then Quickly Deletes an “Oddly Specific” Prediction For a HUGE Dem Victory in 2022
I’d like to do that one day, but it’s currently not possible for me.
They can’t open a file that’s still being appended to.
The Ministry of Truth was quietly axed in the US after just three outrageous weeks.
No it hasn’t.
Just now just has been shuffled sideways & being run by a lower profile GWB deep state toadie.
Jimmy Dore put a video out on this a few weeks ago.
Indolentsays:
June 23, 2022 at 8:36 pm
Already in the can?
ABC News Posts, Then Quickly Deletes an “Oddly Specific” Prediction For a HUGE Dem Victory in 2022
If the elections in November are fairly held, then the Dumb Dum Dems will likely get smashed. If the elections are not fairly held, then who knows. All IMHO.
My dear departed mate had a hip replacement could realistically only give blood for himself as it was so rare. Another mate had a blood type about 15 characters long. Him and 6 other people donated regularly for themslves.
Anyone able to post the piece by Chris Merrett in the Oz about the pirate’s missus?
Pleading at you ZK2A 🙂
Posted up- thread – in full.
Here you go Barking Toad.
After Lisa Wilkinson’s remarks about Brittany Higgins, can Bruce Lehrmann ever receive a fair trial?
Toad
I think it has already been posted, perhaps on the previous page?
Oops, thanks.
Must learn to pause when speed scrolling.
Smart move running a Ukie appeal in a flic where the Russkis are the goodies, SBS.
Apparently so must I.
US positioning paper on effectively breaking up Russia.
https://niccolo.substack.com/p/delusion
“For Lehrmann, justice now depends on jurors having poor memories.”
Australia 2022.
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That’s speculative, and dependent on what the conversation was actually about – not necessarily on what’s been reported.
That’s why this stuff is dealt with in pre-trial argument, if not a full blown voir dire. IF it’s allowed in, the jury is instructed to rah wah rah de rah, as per the Blue Heelers episode.
This “rogue” ocean hacker says the solution to climate change is easy & cheap — so why are governments trying to stop him?
lucy loves lisa, the wyminsis will stick together. lucy will get a kiss on the cheek and lisa a smack on the bum
Seven years in tronk should teach the lady to keep her mouth shut..
Boambee John:
Yes – we’ve been doing it for about 20 years.
Your body has 20% more red blood cells than it really needs, so if you are going to have a major scheduled op, it’s worthwhile considering giving up a couple of units beforehand. The other interesting part of predonation is that total blood volume is made up within a couple of hours, but not the blood cells. The remainder of the cells separate further and are more able to soak up O2 and release CO2.
This is what I’ll do next time I get pissed and fall over and breaking a femur. No spike proteins for Winston!
It’s happening everywhere dept
40,000 Dutch farmers are protesting in central Netherlands (with tractors)
And why are they protesting?
The government says there is too much nitrogen being emitted and the farmers are to blame !
Yes really
For not growing enough crops?
If Wilkinson is a worry, Morrison ought to be too.
Zipster:
The world is currently in a low CO2 situation.
The planet isn’t warming and we need the CO2 up to about 0.8 to 1.2% to grow the food that we eat.
So pushing iron into the water to promote CO2 sequestration is going to be a disaster if it works.
As an aside, I doubt if we even know how much iron dust is being already flushed into the oceans of the world from rivers. I’d say his plan is needing a LOT more study.
The Energy Market
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELaBzj7cn14
The threats or loss of their livelihood that resulted was shattering and it’s completely inexcusable.
It is simply shocking this could be taking place in the 21st century in one of the state’s most lucrative industries
Government vaccine mandates?
Stop. There’s that word again.
Ahhhhhhhh.
Rita Panahi: Lisa Wilkinson deserves to be charged with contempt of court after Logies speech
It takes a particularly noxious brand of self-delighted arsehattery to prejudice a rape trial for the sake of a Logies speech.
Lisa Wilkinson deserves to be charged with contempt of court for the reckless manner she has jeopardised Brittany Higgins’ rape trial.
The Project host’s conduct is all the more appalling given she received a warning just four days before the Logies from the ACT’s Director of Public Prosecutions Shane Drumgold about the risk of speaking publicly about the case.
Not that Wilkinson should’ve needed any warning, anyone who has been near a newsroom knows that once charges have been laid you cannot say or write anything that could prejudice a trial.
Wilkinson isn’t some inexperienced intern who didn’t know any better; she is a media veteran in her 60s well aware that her speech could undermine the accused, Bruce Lehrmann, receiving a fair trial.
Indeed on August 6, 2021 Wilkinson tweeted this warning to others: “On the issue of the 26yo man summonsed for an alleged sexual assault of a woman in Parliament House in March 2019 can I implore everyone to respect what’s in play here. Naming the man on social media & passing judgment could have dire consequences for the outcome of any trial.”
You don’t say, Lisa. But perhaps Wilkinson believes the law doesn’t apply to her.
ACT Supreme Court Chief Justice Lucy McCallum was damning in her comments on Tuesday as she “regrettably and with gritted teeth” vacated the rape trial which was set to begin this coming Monday but will now take place in early October.
Justice McCallum noted that the “distinction between an allegation and finding of guilt has been completely obliterated in the discussion”.
“The recent publicity does in my view change the landscape because of its immediacy, its intensity and its capacity to obliterate the important distinctions between an allegation that remains untested at law, and one that has been accepted by a jury giving a true verdict according to the evidence in accordance with the respective oaths or affirmations,” she said.
Lawyers acting for Wilkinson have assured the court that she will not publicly discuss the case again.
Talk about shutting the gate after the horse has bolted and fled to the next town.
On Thursday Justice McCallum was again scathing of the conduct that had seen a rape trial delayed by over three months.
“The publicity this week has focused sharply on the very fact that was being overlooked, which was that a man is facing trial for a serious offence, and he’s entitled to the presumption of innocence,” she said.
A number of legal experts have opined on the possibility of Wilkinson being charged with contempt of court including Australian Bar Association president Matthew Collins who called the Channel 10 presenter’s comments “ill-advised” and said it’s “certainly possible” that authorities would charge her.
“It’s certainly possible that the authorities will be looking at the speech that she made to the Logies and assessing that speech against the standard that applies in this branch of the law,” he said.
“That standard is, did anything that she did do have a tendency to interfere with the administration of justice?”
In a shock twist, some hours after making those critical comments, Collins was hired by Wilkinson and Ten.
The Network also made this bizarre statement through a spokeswoman: “Both Network 10 and Lisa Wilkinson take their legal obligations very seriously, including in the preparation and delivery of her speech given at the Logies event.”
Really? If that was the case we wouldn’t have a serious matter before the court derailed. A high school media studies student could’ve told Wilkinson, and the entire brains trust at Ten, that the speech was out of bounds.
This sorry episode must serve as a warning to others in the media who have also been irresponsible in discussing the allegations against Lehrmann who has pleaded not guilty to sexually assaulting Ms Higgins in 2019.
Every accused person deserves a fair trial and that is not possible if members of the media undermine the judicial process.
The interests of alleged victims are not served by prejudicing a trial.
Herald-Sun
The Ten Network flagged potential defamation action against other media outlets on Thursday as star presenter Lisa Wilkinson was forced to give undertakings to an ACT court not to engage in further commentary about the Brittany Higgins case or the man accused of raping her.
Amazingly swift use of the victim card.
Absolutely bullshit and no one is buying this crap anymore except the ABC.
““We are closely monitoring all coverage of this issue and Lisa and Network 10 reserve their rights in respect of any future defamation claims.”
Lisa the scab is feeling some heat and she doesn’t like it.
Do it! Sue everyone with no basis! Channel 10 is so strong financially, they can definitely afford it! Also, a model litigant to boot!
I ferkin double dog derya.
Come on Channel 10!
Complain about Justice McCallum!
Do it!
The bottom line is that the whole case against the accused should be dropped.
Equivocation of sexual abuse of children with faux pas such as “leering” or asking out a love interest for a second time, is horrifically dumb and mentally putrid.
Ch 10 threatening defamation proceedings against other media outlets for reporting on her skanky comments.
Go for it kiddies – lets see how that proceeds. The defamation defence of truth of what was said may just hit Ch 10 for 6.
Not a bad summary of the whole situation. Seven years up the creek should teach La Wilkinson that the sun doesn’t shine out her posterior orifice..
Oh and she’s off the air for a few nights – stress leave?
Borrow the pirate’s hankie and cry me a river.
What we need now are brave but blatantly law disrespecting hackers to see if any handbag hitsquad chums planned this all along.
I really do wonder what their WhatsApp chats consist of. The schedule for more stocking fillers written by football living pirates?
Not that I condone any sort of illegal behaviour.
No ladies. You don’t go halves on a conspiracy charge. There is no timesharing for convicts.
Anyway, tick tock, tick tock.
No I want this to go to trial, I am in awe of the prosecutor who has a victim that has “no memory” of anything that happened that night. can’t wait for this entertainment.
I’d like to buy this bloke a beer
Energy reality bites hard
…not everyone is cut out for the SES band.
The other seven of you, condemned to APS6 and EL1 forever.
I’m waiting for the security guards to give their evidence, and why La Higginz didn’t go to the cops?
remember 2022 ?
… the year Putin turned off the Russian Solar Panels
Cassie of Sydney says:
June 23, 2022 at 6:46 pm
*it should be noted that some Sikh and Hindu girls have been targeted in places like Luton but the Sikh and Hindu communities, given the history of Muslim r@pe in the Punjab, have been allowed to take
tookmatters into their own hands.I have made a slight edit.
Calling Rex Anger,
Your new Bidentalk transliteration challenge
https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1539581635154350081
go!
Finally, weather forecast says a few days of fine weather ahead.
That’s great, because after the last few days I’ve grown gills, the jarrah supports for the patio have grown leaf buds, and the magpies and wagtails have been having backstroke championships across the front pool … errrr … lawn.
So I was thrilled to hear on the teev tonight the official report from the BOM that we are well on track for our driest June in 15 years!
FMD; are they taking their rain measurements indoors now?
BoM forecasters don’t look out the window Bruce in WA.
Observations may upset their models.
No. That is not justice. He will forever be a suspect if it doesn’t go a head.
Johannes Leak.
Mark Knight.
Warren Brown.
Peter Broelman.
The same old muddle from David Rowe.
Bob Moran.
Christian Adams.
Oh yeah?
Ever heard of Chris Dawson and how The Australian ran it’s own Murder Trial against him for years?
Morten Morland.
Michael Ramirez.
A.F. Branco.
Matt Margolis.
Gary Varvel.
Henry Payne.
Chip Bok.
Bob Gorrell.
Milton Friedman: No Free Lunch
Adam Bandt unfurls banner of a radical culture war
JOHN CARROLL
Adam Bandt’s refusal to stand next to the national flag has provoked a wide and heated reaction, unsurprisingly.
The flag carries a lot of symbolic freight. It has waved overhead since Federation in 1901, watching over the nation’s history in its entirety. It has hung there throughout the ups and downs of the 20th century, and beyond, as a sentinel of national unity. Soldiers have died under it. Olympic medallists have stood proudly, often with tears in their eyes, as it has slowly been raised aloft to acknowledge their triumphs. It overlooks the national anthem to open football grand finals – in effect, giving official recognition to the event. It has been waved during royal visits. It emblazons Parliament House in Canberra.
In effect, the flag raises the hand of secular benediction over the nation, blessing it. It stands with the Constitution and the vast assembly of public institutions as the bedrock of society.
Protests such as those made by Bandt are to be expected of radical undergraduates in a surge of ill-thought revolutionary enthusiasm. During the Vietnam war years, American students burnt flags in deliberate acts of desecration, a crime in some countries. But a member of a significant and established political party, and indeed its leader, should be more circumspect.
The Bandt Luther moment – “Here I stand, I can do no other!” – signals that he regards Australia as illegitimate. He will agree to speak in public flanked by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island flags, but not in the company of the national flag. For, as he puts it, it celebrates racist division.
If he truly believed in his own act, he should quit parliament. To remain is hypocritical. Parliament stands at the apex of institutions that make up the fabric of the nation. It stands equally as a condensation of the traditions, customs, and habits of civic life, with sources going back to first British settlement, and back behind that to the accumulation of legal and democratic wisdom developed across centuries in England. To cancel the flag is, at the symbolic level, to cancel federal parliament.
Behind this protest against the flag lies, in part, a change in patriotic expression that arose after the September 11, 2001, attack on the World Trade Centre twin towers in New York. Australians had always been understated in their nationalistic emotions, unlike Americans who have a long history of celebrating themselves as a chosen people, with a sacred constitution, a people who in their greater civic brashness enjoy flying flags in front of their homes.
Here, flags began to appear on cars on Australia Day and were politicised by some right-wing groups as during the Cronulla riots. I suspect a lot of uneasy feeling has arisen across the nation over the flag being put to such uses. It was somehow un-Australian, out of tune with the low-key national temper. Yet this new use of the flag – maybe abuse – is pretty trivial when set in the broader context of the flag’s unifying role across 120 years.
The issue is not that flags can’t be changed. The Australian national anthem is only 50 years old. Canada successfully introduced its vivid red maple leaf as its national symbol in 1965. Australia might have followed suit with the simple image of a flying kangaroo as its national emblem – much more striking and memorable than the somewhat cluttered Southern Cross and Union Jack. That moment has likely passed. And perhaps it is right that the nation goes about its business under an image of the starry heavens, rather than an animal totem.
Our flag as it is, invested with the entire substance of the nation’s history and memory, signals cohesion and togetherness. So, is the word treason too extreme in referring to a member of parliament who would tear it down?
I take my cue from Julien Benda’s powerfully influential book from 1927, La Trahison des clercs (The Treason of the Intellectuals). There is nothing new about radical culture warriors intent on undermining their own societies. George Orwell, himself a socialist, lamented at the end of World War II that the left intelligentsia in Britain would give a silent cheer whenever Adolf Hitler won a battle.
The Bandt moment might be passed off as just another example of the blindness to reality that pervades Greens politics. The party can mouth an absurd energy policy of no coal and no nuclear – which means, at this point, no baseload supply, in effect no electricity – because it will never form government. The shunning of the flag is different. The radical view of Australia being a cruel, mean, divisive and racist society, a view that has been percolating through schools and universities, is being taken into the political mainstream.
The truth about modern Australia, from any balanced sociological perspective, is that it leads the developed world in ticking off the buzz triple-box mantra of equality, diversity and inclusion.
Wealth inequality is low compared with other rich countries; even since 2001, income distribution has become marginally more equal. In terms of diversity, Australia has successfully assimilated migrants from hundreds of ethnic backgrounds and languages since 1945. In terms of inclusion, Australia ranks high in intergenerational social mobility, unlike say the US; and the rapid expansion of non-Anglo surnames in an elite profession such as medicine indicates the porosity of the society.
That is the truth about the modern nation, which is not to deny the past racism of the White Australia policy or the larger stain of the dispossession of the first peoples.
Bandt may come to regret making so open and honest the ultimate goal of much radical politics. This week he wore his political heart on his sleeve. Hatred of nation will not go down well in the mainstream electorate. At the election last month the teals were successful at keeping the extent of their own radicalism undercover. Next time they may suffer from the naive frankness of the Greens’ leader.
John Carroll is professor emeritus of sociology at La Trobe University.
Oz. Bandt has successfully managed to paint himself into a corner on this one. On his next appearance does he a) not stand in front of the flag, therefore alienating Australians even more, and losing even more votes, or b) stand in front of it, thus selling himself out?