From Rafes newsletter: https://www.flickerpower.com/images/Meet_Daniel_Westerman.pdf
Open Thread – Weekend 2 July 2022
- The Radio Show May 2024 – The Fifties
- Open Thread – Weekend 4 May 2024
- Bumtree #5
- The beach which banned vanilla ice cream
- Bumtree #4
In 2016 they didn’t think he could win. In 2020 they knew they had the fix in. In 2024 they…
Enlighten me, dear lady. (Via the nested comments if you please, as it will make it easier for me to…
That’s what those who availed themselves of it counted on. But the budget shortfall will have to be made up…
Gotcha:)
Dot, don’t worry about fatboy; like all lefties he’s a liar.
m0ntysays:
July 3, 2022 at 11:37 am
Bullshit. Any sane doctor will tell you 10 year olds shouldn’t give birth.
The rules governing doctor conduct in Ohio are not sane, evidently. But hey, that’s what Republicans want.
m0nty-fa
Or, maybe, even evidently, like you, the complainer was not really interested in those rules, but (like you) only wanted to make a political point? But, hey, that’s what DemonRats want.
Uh oh.
Too late!
Ed Casesays:
July 3, 2022 at 11:39 am
I’m not sure why the Australia-France relationship is viewed as being so important.
New Caledonia?
It’s pretty close to Queensland.
Not as close as West Irian, Dickless. Another geography fail.
Not even a single post-facto squeak about the EPA being ego-checked, Fat Man.
I am so deeply disappointed in you.
Agreeing that there is nothing to defend when ideologically aligned organisation gets slapped down is not the mark of a good Leftist, M0nty.
Unless the Hive Mind has decided it wants organised infanticide far more than it wants deindustrialisation….
Albanese was gung ho about raising the Minimum Wage before he got Elected, he’s gone to water since.
Well, the minimum wage has been raised, by 5.2%. Were you asleep? Please pay attention to the facts.
I think you’ve got your Greek geeks mixed up, Humphrey.
LOL, calli!
No she did not.
That’s not true. You’re making stuff up here, the law (statute law quoted here) allows for abortions that arise from unsafe pregnancies. You are making up medical board rules, pulling them out of your rear.
(You don’t get Teslas and nice steals for the nomenklatura and E-Trabants* and processed cockroach milk for the masses if you deindustrialise…)
* Holy Shit- It’s real, and has been since 2009. Stop the world, this Anger wants to get off.
Great article by Judith about the garbage that is the government in NSW
When Dominic Perrottet became the premier of New South Wales last October, after Gladys shuffled off after a brush with ICAC, I was filled with a degree of optimism. Here was a truly conservative politician, an elected person who wasn’t afraid to speak his mind.
One of my mates based in NSW was quick to set me straight. There was no way Perrottet would live up to my aspirations. He didn’t (and doesn’t) have the numbers, the ‘moderates’ (aka Labor-lites) in the NSW party call the shots and Perrottet would be no better than the wet leaders who preceded him.
How right was my friend! In many ways, Perrottet is worse than Gladys because he now goes against pretty much everything he once stood for. Where he once mocked the idea of having the indigenous flag flying from the harbour bridge, and other virtue-signalling paraphernalia, he now commands that the flag become a permanent feature – even at a cost of $25 million.
(Let’s just hope he has the time to get down to Bunnings to undercut the preferred provider of the new pole and flag. $25 million sounds a tad steep even if you are telling the world what a good person you are.)
And what’s all that stuff about the ‘ideological climate war’ Perrottet has been going on about and the ludicrous notion that the ‘state’s renewable target [50 per cent cut by 2030] will help future-proof its power supply’? Is he nuts? He might not have the numbers, but why would he actually make these remarks?
Now perhaps he has had a bad dose of green fever, but what explains his reference to an ‘entire lost decade’? Evidently, the ‘issue here, that NSW, Victoria, Queensland and South Australia are dealing with now, has been a lack of private sector investment’.
The thing is, he’s talking through his hat. Since 2012, more than 90 per cent of investment in electricity generation in the eastern states has been in wind and solar. And, in per capita terms, Australia has the highest rate of renewable grid-scale generation in the world. It’s about ten times the world average.
The real problem in NSW (and the other eastern states) is that there has been no net investment in reliable, 24/7 generation, and that’s the key to explaining the crisis overwhelming the National Electricity Market.
Mind you, I should have been on to Perrottet well before he became premier. It was obvious that he was captured by investment bank types and the ‘miracle’ of modern financial management. He had been persuaded to set up the NSW Generations Fund to be run by a division of Treasury, TCorp.
Using the proceeds from the sale of the first tranche of WestConnex, the extremely well-paid staff of TCorp (average salary above $300,000 per year) were given free rein to bet taxpayer funds on the vagaries of the international equity and bond markets. Notwithstanding designating one of the sub-funds for the purpose of debt reduction, in point of fact the fund has been used to place some big financial bets, with the result being a great deal of red ink in 2022.
Perrottet was also the father (he is rather good at that role) of the highly dubious Transport Asset Holding Entity in which the assets and the liabilities of the public transport system were hived off into an off-budget fund, in part to disguise the amount of public debt being carried by the state.
I’m not sure too many readers will query my description of Perrottet as dumb, therefore. But when it comes to dumber, there are no prizes for guessing that Matt Kean, newly installed NSW treasurer (and still environment minister, groan) takes that title.
The fact that NSW now takes out the wooden spoon as worst fiscal performer, edging out the profligate and irresponsible states of Queensland and Victoria, is really all you need to know. Take a look at the figures and weep.
In 2020-21, net government debt in NSW was $37 billion. In this financial year, it will be $78 billion. That’s an increase of 110 per cent in two years! By 2025-26, net government debt in NSW is expected to reach $115 billion. (At least, the asset recycling program of former premier, Mike Baird, did actually involve paying down the debt even though it included some dodgy deals.)
Matt Kean’s first Budget is a spendathon, with the 2022-23 budget deficit coming in at over $11 billion. It’s not until 2024-25 that a very slim surplus is expected; I wouldn’t advise readers to hold their breath on that outcome. Where once we might have expected a centre-right government – pause here for unconstrained laughter – to be fiscally responsible, Mr Dumber is proposing to outspend Labor states and increase government debt at a much higher rate.
Be aware also that the NSW budget forecasts are based on implausibly optimistic economic assumptions, including the projection that the rate of unemployment will stay below four per cent for the next four years. No economic clouds for NSW, evidently.
But just in case you are unconvinced about my description of the person who is now NSW treasurer (he has already declared himself to be the most outstanding environment minister in the world) as dumber, let me end on an excerpt from his compelling budget commentary, including the exciting $5 billion Women’s Opportunity Statement.
‘Its timing is apt, if decades overdue. Last year, we saw an outpouring of frustration from women across the country, following the courageous advocacy of Brittany Higgins and Grace Tame. When women told these stories, I saw other women listening intently and nodding in agreement.’ (Move over, Greta: Brittany and Grace are now calling the shots on public policy.)
And here’s another example from the Keanster where the words speak for themselves. ‘We choose to give our children the best start in life so that they can not only reach their dreams but dream bigger in the first place. We choose to make sure that families can continue to buy a slice of the Australian dream. We choose to harness the wonders of modern science, and the power of our wind and sun. We choose to leave a better planet for future generations.’
Perhaps he imagines himself to be the next John F. Kennedy or Nelson Mandela – another wordsmith put on this earth to improve our lot. Or not?
These deadshits live on another planet.
m0ntysays:
July 3, 2022 at 11:46 am
It is touching that you lot maintain some faith in public institutions in red states to protect vulnerable girls in these horrific situations, but they just don’t.
Let me correct that for you m0nty-fa.
It is touching that you and your ilk maintain some faith in public institutions in blue states to protect vulnerable citizens in horrific street crime situations, but they just don’t.
Good lord this is absolute bullshit.
Dover. You need to cut out this idiotic lying and misinformation.
There will be countless activist parents willing to take their 11yo pregnant children interstate for an abortion (after getting in touch with the press of course) regardless of what the laws say.
Why does Monty hate women?
steaks
But the accidental consonant stuffup works too
Puberty can happen as early as 9 years of age. There was a famous case in Paraguay in 2015 of an 11-year old giving birth after her stepfather raped her when she was 10, as their laws were the same as Dobbs with no exceptions other than the health of the mother – the government determined that she was healthy enough to carry it to term, which ended up being true.
The facts of this Ohio case are not unprecedented. And they will now form the precedent for many more such cases.
He’ll wrap it up for you in cheap, flammable Chinese cladding.
m0ntysays:
July 3, 2022 at 11:59 am
It is legally allowed (quoted from the legislation) in Ohio
In a practical sense for this case, it was not.
All that you have to support this claim is the unsupported word of a potentially self-interested individual, and you refuse flatly to look any further (probably for fear of what you might find).
(Sorry folks, that was nasty and uncalled-for.
Dover, please delete my comment at 12.17pm at your discretion)
I am a fan of The Critical Drinker and another bloke called Just Some Guy. They both panned it.
My BIL (whom I previously mentioned in connection with the shock of SCOTUS overturning Roe v Wade) said the Obi Wan Kenobi series was fantastic.
So I took a squiz at IMDB. It shows a rating of 7.1, but if you go to the reviews that supposedly make up the score. Mostly ones and twos, with corresponding levels of anger. Even the rare score above five is accompanied by such condemnation as to suggest the score ought to be lower.
I would guess that there are a lot of bot reviews much earlier on, but they seem to have given up. So, if you go to look at the reviews it is a wall of damnation.
Puberty can happen as early as 9 years of age.
That’s physical puberty. Mental puberty can be absent from people all their lives. You for instance.
Anyway, why has the Fat Man suddenly become so belt-fed by proxy about abortions of late?
same reason that the fat wimmin were on the war path yesterday I suspect- they live in a CNN type bubble even on the other side of the Pacific
Dot, I’ve been reflecting on your comments about Miss Piggy and her coterie of muppets.
Most people are followers, because it’s convenient and they don’t have to think too much. It has always been this way. Out of the thin “leadership” pool, you’re always going to get a useless narcissist with delusions of grandeur who has no problem at all in lording it over people who are either too needy or too nice to tell them to shove it. These types get their kicks seeing how far they can push and the great reward for them is that they can, indeed, push their friendship group a very long way.
In fact, the more outrageous the “pushing” the more the surrounding organism deflects and protects the leader.
My inclination is to dump the lot of them, hook line and sinker. Life is too short and too rewarding to waste your time and effort. Let them all work it out for themselves.
Outbreak shifts to Shenzhen and lockdown scares people/How long can China’s Zero-COVID policy last?
China Insights
This is Shenzhen, China. People are using various methods to help each other to escape from the sealed-off area. They climb over the high fence or escape through the narrow space at the bottom. Some have moved to other parts of the city, while others opt to return to their hometowns.
Municipal Party Secretary of Beijing, Cai Qi, a close ally of Xi Jinping, said on June 27th that Beijing would continue to focus on regular epidemic prevention and control “in the next five years” and would not wave in its support for “dynamic zero-Covid” policy.
This statement has terrified Beijing residents. It immediately spread on Chinese social media WeChat, where netizens highlighted the phrase “the next five years” and commented on it. One wrote, “This is even scarier than a ghost story. I was having my noon nap and it startled me awake.”
Dotsays:
July 3, 2022 at 12:13 pm
Six weeks is the earliest date the Pregnancy Test shows a Positive
Good lord this is absolute bullshit.
Dover. You need to cut out this idiotic lying and misinformation.
I am coming to the conclusion that Dick Ed is a badly programmed bot with a malfunctioning logic/consistency module.
Hungary suffers a 20% decline in birth rates compared to the same period last year. That’s now plummeting birth rates recorded in the United Kingdom, Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Switzerland, Hungary, and Taiwan.
If this continues the evidence of vax injury via mass sterilization will be undeniable, but also devastating to those countries, as it will take another whole generation of the young children to grow up and then to build up the population again to rebuild civilizational decline.
Why is there always a child rape victim trotted out?
Why does the justification for the in utero murder of millions of babies turn on such a case?
Gee, libs are getting desperate.
Most appreciated, Dover
I am going with a plague of epidemiologists.
As per somebody’s post yesterday they are now top of my list of distrusted occupations.
“On Sky Outsiders, James Morrow just invented a new phrase worthy of Muddy’s Catictionary: a priesthood of experts”
Because the laws do not make exceptions for child rape victims.
Remind me again which multi billionaire is very keen on lowering world population and is heavily invested in vaccines ?
“Hungary suffers a 20% decline in birth rates compared to the same period last year. That’s now plummeting birth rates recorded in the United Kingdom, Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Switzerland, Hungary, and Taiwan”.
Because trotting out Clemmie Ford to plead that contraception and judgement are just too much of an ask might not have the persuasive power they are looking for. (Although Clemmie would disagree – she would love a chance to skewer the patriarchy and show up their hypocrisy with her own brilliance.)
Interesting that m0nty-fa seems to have decided that there is no political benefit in complaining about the administrative state being reined in, and pointed in the direction of proper behaviour (it is far too soon to say if they will take the hint, or have to be given stronger directions). He now seems to believe that abortion is the election winning tactic. Note, however, that he sticks with the “hard cases make bad law” approach, rather than offering comment on more controversial elements of abortion policy.
Late term abortions, sex selection abortions, and lifestyle preference abortions don’t get a mention. (Some singer was babbling on recently about she “just didn’t want a baby”. Maybe she should have kept her knees crossed, or used some form of contraception?)
Mine too, calli.
Precisely, Calli. It’s the emotive wedge/ trojan horse for elective abortion.
Such up! Rex.
Yes they do.
You’re lying.
Why do Republicans not have women who have abortions charged with murder, if they believe as calli does that it is murder? Because they couldn’t get away with it. They do think they can get away with forcing 10-year-old rape victims to carry their child to term, though.
When you are the ones being edgelords, you are going to be judged by where your edge is.
“Hungary suffers a 20% decline in birth rates compared to the same period last year.”
Where is this stat from?
Isaac Arthur – The Phosphorous Problem.
Terrifying! To go all the way down the road about 50 miles is a nearly insurmountable challenge worthy of Edmund Hillary (if he had been a birthing person). Why, the early explorers in Australia had it easier! But maybe Monty is concerned about the horrible effect burning two gallons of gasoline would have upon holy Gaia, there is that.
That never happened, monty.
You are assuming you have all of the facts with the Chilean example and that Chile rules the USA.
Sir Robert Menzies was a strong leader, which is why he became PM in the wake of World War II.
But he wasn’t wise in the same way that Eric Blair (a.k.a. George Orwell) and Margaret Thatcher were wise in their understanding of human frailties.
Menzies did not consider for a minute that the party of classical Liberals he founded could be undermined from within by Marxists and carpetbaggers like Matt Kean who have reinterpreted liberalism as: whatever means are necessary to destroy the existing social order.
With the wisdom of hindsight, I think that Menzies’ contemporary, Sir Henry Bolte, was a better leader because he did not, for example, wax lyrical about his relationship with the Queen, kicked heads when necessary to maintain the rule of law and, as Victorian premier and a country farmer, he was much closer to the people over whom he governed.
The law needs to be changed then, m0nty. A little girl who is raped and falls pregnant should have that option, grisly and suboptimal as it is. It is not “health care” or a “right”, but for me at least falls into the same category as anencephaly and other dreadful but rare circumstances.
Great big hulking women who use abortion as a form of contraception are a different matter.
All old ground and discussed ad infinitum on other fora. I doubt whether there’s anything new any of us can add.
Six weeks is the earliest date the Pregnancy Test shows a Positive
Good lord this is absolute bullshit.
Dover. You need to cut out this idiotic lying and misinformation.
I am coming to the conclusion that Dick Ed is a badly programmed bot with a malfunctioning logic/consistency module.
Correct. It is rubbish.
The ex-wife went off the Pill in early December 1987 as we were planning for our first Child. Around New Year time she was showing signs of not feeling so well/being queasy. I said to her that she was likely pregnant. Then in early January 1988, she popped into the Chemist and got a pregnancy self test kit. Bingo! She was pregnant and we were well pleased.
So, I reckon all up, around 4 weeks or so. Head Case’s ‘comment’ of 6 weeks is rubbish like many other of his utterances.
My casual racism slipped into pure laziness. Apologies to the Kouk. Who is still wrong anyway.
Yes they do.
You’re lying.
Practically, a six week Abortion Rule means No [legal] Abortion.
Simple as that.
A Republican rep from Ohio talking a week or two ago about a hypothetical about a 12-year-old rape victim:
In other words, if you fall between the cracks of these laws because you are 12 (or 10) and didn’t know you were pregnant from being raped… it’s your fault.
These men are monsters.
Two months? or six weeks and three days.
You can’t line up your sources to the point you are trying to make.
Confused nonsense, made up regulation and unverifiable stories.
Good article about BlojobBut if you stand back from the Westminster hurly-burly you can see Boris for what he is: a carefully constructed empty space onto which Britons have, over the years, been invited to project their hopes and fears; one whose purpose has been to further the personal ambition for power of the very real but (so far as the public are concerned) largely unknown Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson.
With the wisdom of hindsight, I think that Menzies’ contemporary, Sir Henry Bolte, was a better leader because he did not, for example, wax lyrical about his relationship with the Queen, …
Bolte governed like a Labor Premier, plus the Labor Party fell apart mostly due to Menzies highlighting it’s Federal Leader’s links to the Soviet Union.
Thatcher looted and wrecked England on behalf of her donors.
Unless they physically kill the child themselves, they’re not the murder. They could be charged with aiding and abetting, soliciting, and the like. The ‘doctor’ should be charged with murder.
because too much inflation is barely enough
Even murder has social connotations in terms of the standards what it means of the day, you big fat idiot.
Only a few hundred years ago, killing someone in a duel with pistols or swords was considered perfectly legal.
Morally it was murder, but not in the legal context of the times.
Get back in the basement. Now!
Your confusion, Dot, comes from cognitive dissonance. You can’t understand the bad consequences of your belief system. It does not compute.
This is your own problem.
….in the present day
These men are monsters.
There’s only one monster here.
Politicians of every stamp can be cruel and stupid.
This is not news.
2 months? some wymisis don’t realise it for years!
what’s not to love about $12 lettuce?
And they practically never are. Why is that, given that the beliefs behind these laws are that murder is taking place?
Could it be that the objective here is not actually the prosecution of a crime, but the oppression of women and the creation of a permanent underclass of underpaid workers for capitalists to exploit?
m0ntysays:
July 3, 2022 at 11:30 am
Sportsbet odds on this are:
Frontrunners;
(a) totally fictitious. This is a strong prospect. The people spruiking the story can hide behind “confidentiality” making it essentially unverifiable/unfalsifiable. Interestingly, an internet search shows up absolutely nothing about the occurrence of the alleged rape, e.g. nothing about police in Ohio seeking public help in tracking down a suspect.
(b) probably the race favourite; stage-managed for effect. Any doctor who was in favour of abortion would have utilised the “serious danger to health” exception for a 10 year old girl. But that wouldn’t have given any opportunity for politicised grandstanding. Cue the trip to Indiana.
Rank outsider – totally true story. Even at long odds, tipsters suggest that punters should stay well clear.
Duelling is much underrated.
Watched The Big Country yesterday afternoon. That duel sorted the men from the boys!
is anybody else outraged that the movie Elvis was filmed in Oz and not in Memphis ? Or that Saving Private Ryan was not filmed on the beach at Normandy ?
Knuckle Dragger:
I’m reminded of the place Ripley lived in, in “Aliens” while she was working in the docks.
Spacious compared to the ‘space shuttles’.
An aborted female is definitely oppressed.
No argument there from me.
I’m sorry, but I’m more interested in who raped her than I am about lawmakers, Dem or Repub. Do we know this? What about her parents? Did they not notice anything unusual?
On crafting an ‘exception’, would this count as an additional charge against the rapist?
Munty now getting one up tick per comment, but no more.
Self ticking may or may not be involved.
Also there are estimates that over half of US abortions are done through medication now, so technically it’s the woman who is the “murderer”.
KD ta, just spent a few minutes clean soft drink off my monitor and keyboard…
Speaking of problems endemic to the north. Nearly skittled a local this morning. The idiot was walking across Dalrymple rd (One of the arterial roads between town and Kirwan) not even caring about the 80km/h traffic. She got sent on her way with some verbal encouragement about wanting to be killed or something, didn’t even raise a look back. If I was a betting man she was heading to the Dalrymple Hotel which was across the road. I am seeing it more and more and put it down to a concerted push to get itinerants out of the CBD and areas around our unwanted white elephant of a stadium.
With the wisdom of hindsight, I think that Menzies’ contemporary, Sir Henry Bolte, was a better leader because he did not, for example, wax lyrical about his relationship with the Queen, kicked heads when necessary to maintain the rule of law and, as Victorian premier and a country farmer, he was much closer to the people over whom he governed.
That’s very interesting Tom. I’ve read that Ming’s two biggest mistakes were Canbra and accepting the Murray report. A tradie I was working with back in 2014 spoke very highly of Bolte and his role in the Bass Straight oil and gas project.
Some history of dueling.
Zipster says: July 3, 2022 at 1:00 pm
Obviously another payrise is required.
m0ntysays:
July 3, 2022 at 12:43 pm
Why do Republicans not have women who have abortions charged with murder, if they believe as calli does that it is murder? Because they couldn’t get away with it.
Because abortions are generally legal? The SC decision did not repeal any actual legislation, it simply referred the matter to the several states, to pass (or continue with) relevant legislation. Murder is generally covered under state laws, not federal legislation.
A belief held by an individual is not a law. If it were, most of the population would be locked up for ignoring someone’s beliefs. Didn’t you learn about logical thought at University. Oh, sorry, Economics (failed) and j’ism don’t cover that.
Why do stupid political mischief makers lie so profusely in a vain attempt to make a coherent case?
They were before abortion laws were liberalised. I’m quite willing to imprison doctors that perform abortions, Monty. You’re not asking me to support something to which I’m opposed. This is like daring me to eat a pork roast.
Really? The woman who proudly boasts she’s had three abortions is oppressed? I forget her name: she was by Fairfax.
Thatcher looted and wrecked England on behalf of her donors.
Correction needed here. The UK was broke and had just gone through the ‘Winter of Discontent’ caused by the outgoing British LayBore Guv’ment when Thatcher took the helm in May 1979. The Nation was in disarray which is why British LayBore got booted out of Office. When she left Office as PM in November 1990, the UK was in a far better position economically than when she first became PM.
FFS, get your facts right.
How about jousting sticks?
Try the Trading Post for a bargain.
Damn iPhone
Fired by fairfax
These men are monsters.
m0nty-fa goes full misandrist. He is now so misandrist that he hates himself as a man (in a very generic sense), and will now transition.
Never go full misandrist.
Read what I said again, JC.
I’m talking about the baby in the kidney dish not the mother.
And how about the women, you have to lock them up too. After all, they are accomplices at minimum.
You should want to jail that 10-year-old rape victim. Make an example of her.
Monty is getting excited, it’ll be coat hangers in dark alleys next.
Cassie of Sydney:
Just another layer of glitter of the turd that is called governance in Australia.
m0nty-fa
Could it be that the objective here is not actually the prosecution of a crime, but the oppression of women and the creation of a permanent underclass of underpaid workers for capitalists to exploit?
Do you mean those big companies that will pay for out of state abortions for their employees? Saving the cost of maternity leave wouldn’t enter into the calculation, you say?
Never go full misandrist.
must be following Blojob’s lead
That is a tiresome and dumb argument. Any prosecution would have to show that the conception had occurred, and that the abortifacient was the cause of the child in utero’s death. These are only ever going to be established after about 4 weeks of any pregnancy for the obvious reasons, and abortifacients are normally used in the first couple of days. Consequently, the argument you’ve trotted out is disingenuous.
m0ntysays:
July 3, 2022 at 1:04 pm
Also there are estimates that over half of US abortions are done through medication now, so technically it’s the woman who is the “murderer”.
What are the laws in the affected states? If they approve abortions, then your bleating about “murder” is just a distraction squirrel, to hide your lack of substantive arguments.
mutley’s trying so hard to troll… kids don’t try this at home, but this is what happens when you have 2 cups of coffee!
Zipstersays:
July 3, 2022 at 12:56 pm
Well, the minimum wage has been raised, by 5.2%
because too much inflation is barely enough
My 5.2% comment was in response to Head Case who hadn’t realised that the minimum wage had in fact been increased while he was asleep at the wheel (as usual). The Age Pension had an adjustment of 2.1% CPI (Corrupted Price Index) as caculated by the Guv’ment Statisticians while they were wearing their blinkers (as usual).
That’s very interesting Tom. I’ve read that Ming’s two biggest mistakes were Canbra and accepting the Murray report. A tradie I was working with back in 2014 spoke very highly of Bolte and his role in the Bass Straight oil and gas project.
miltonf
Canbra was there before Ming, but he supercharged it.
The Murray Report wasn’t too much of a problem, it was Dawkins who destroyed higher education in Australia.
it’s going to be a long war
Yes, I’m not against this at all.
The circumstances involved and her age militate against any charge, and she’s under the care of her parents here, I assume, so that further weakens any claim of criminal responsibility.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
July 3, 2022 at 10:21 am
Cool, your Dad may have rubbed shoulders with distant relatives of mine. Even more likely if he also dabbled in motorcycles. 🙂
Zipstersays:
July 3, 2022 at 1:18 pm
mutley’s trying so hard to troll… kids don’t try this at home, but this is what happens when you have 2 cups of coffee!
It wasn’t the coffee, it was the four dozen Krispy Kremes.
My experience with pregnancy tests or really my other halfs anyway. Checked with one of the over the counter just after she missed her period with all of ours. All the tests were line ball positive/inconclusive, subsequent GP exam by urine confirmed positive. All around 3 weeks in, not sure how normal this is as you don’t normally talk about these matters but our experience anyway.
Make Lettuce Great Again!
The story of Lisa Wilkinson and Sandra Sully’s car parking duel
Unfortunately not with sword or pistol.
callisays:
at 12:46 pm
The law needs to be changed then, m0nty. A little girl who is raped and falls pregnant should have that option, grisly and suboptimal as it is. It is not “health care” or a “right”, but for me at least falls into the same category as anencephaly and other dreadful but rare circumstances.
You’re making a lot of assumptions here with no facts to back it up.
Menarche can happen as early as 9, the girl was pregnant, so Menarche had occurred.
The circumstances are unknown, as are the girl’s wishes in the matter.
Calling her a “little girl” is inflammatory, you simply don’t know.
Given that, and the fact that undergoing an Abortion will have adverse physiological and psychological side affects, how can your opinion be valid or taken seriously?
Pity.
The permanent underclass of underpaid workers is courtesy of the dems via the southern border.
WTF are you talking about you fat headed idiot?
You have been serially proven wrong. That is all.
7 – 10 days actually.
Just wondering if m0nty can give me an explanation of what he/she/it believes an abortion actually is.
I am pretty sure a nine year old is a kid or little kid.
Dover, turf this fuckwit.
Are m0nty and Ed Case the same person? Why is Ed Case speaking for m0nty?
Speaking of duelling,
I wish to challenge m0nty to a duel, for being an obnoxious stooge prone to Whig-ging out over legal decisions that cannot and do not affect him, bit only indicate that the political dominance of his fascistic ideals is waning. His carry-on is spoiling the bonhomie and good cheer of the Cat, and absolutely ruining his productivity on whatever the hell he is pretending to do on his computer right now.
I nominate one pair clean and unprickled double-pluggers as the weapons. Duellists may select the foot of their preference.
The duel will be to submission or first outbreak of face-tinea.
m0nty can choose the location…
“And how about the women, you have to lock them up too. After all, they are accomplices at minimum.
You should want to jail that 10-year-old rape victim. Make an example of her.”
Oh here he goes again. All he has is the adolescent cry of the “10-year old rape victim”. It’s a tedious shtick.
If only, mizaris.
Ed Case might actually be cogent if that were true…
Tracter.
I am pretty sure a nine year old is a kid or little kid.
The example is of a 10 y.o. in Ohio who is 6 weeks 3 days pregnant.
That’s all you or anyone else knows for sure unless more details appear.
Gaslighting and inflammatory comments by you are just that,
and your stock in trade.
Grigs always struck me as a water truck kinda guy.
Blundering around spraying everywhere, spoiling work rhythms, getting in everyone’s way and making a sucking, quagmire mess of everything he touches…
Murder? …. 2 consenting adults partaking in a risky activity?
Are m0nty and Ed Case the same person? Why is Ed Case speaking for m0nty?
Agent m0nty is Agent m0nty.
You get his bevy of paid right wing Trolls thrown in for free.
Ed tends to get unhappy when Monty takes over his spot in the sun. You can tell when it is happening because the volume goes up a notch.
Okay Grigs.
Credit to you, that one made me laugh.
Pride.
Over 50% of abortions are accomplished through medication, and that number is going up. Pills are approved for use up to 10 weeks, and are frequently used after that mark as well. Your assertion that abortifacients are “normally used in the first couple of days” is patently wrong, and it will only get more wrong as Dobbs hits and doctors run away from performing procedures.
If you’re going to criminalise people who perform abortions, you’re going to have to lock up women.
A fine rant.
https://medium.com/@bp1nav1/the-world-operates-on-gynocentrism-male-disposability-and-cultural-misandry-1807177d3f1a
Burkes Peerage has 1,286 entries under Montgomery, so it wouldn’t be surprising if SpongeBob and a few others quack
Yes, Lord M0nty, no, Lord M0nty, three bags full, …
as they receive their daily talking points.
They actually want to kill each other, it’s not attempting an ‘Iron Lotus’.
No it’s not. Your “proof” is that they can be used longer than a few days after.
What are you saying, you fucking weirdo?
You consider her to be an adult?
Please, take a seat.
Your “proof” is… ???
Are these young, braindead, untalented females that seem to infest DC and Canbra some sort of byproduct from ‘The West Wing’.
JC complaining about the gayness level in “Maverick”.
Firstly, I am assuming he is saying that the gayness level is too high, not too low.
Secondly, he could just be confusing some good old fashioned bonhomie and good humour for gayness.
Your assertion that abortifacients are “normally used in the first couple of days” is patently wrong,
No it isn’t.
What’s your evidence?
just the fugly ones
I had no idea they could be used that late, but it’s hardly a death blow to the argument. You would just make abortifacients available only by prescription. Prosecutors would need to satisfy the elements of the crime.
Yes, and? Where have I indicated that I wouldn’t support this?
Perhaps it is a broader principle that he is defending, and he sees abortion as part of a slippery slope.
Perhaps he is terrified that access to medical procedures might be prioritised according to such criterion as responsibility for the condition.
Artificial knees, and heart surgery, in the case for someone has wilfully and over many years scoffed down only doughnuts and sugary drinks, without exercise, for example.
This just concedes that monty’s correction was trivial.
Conspiracy theorist fears SCOTUS will overturn the 2024 election in a bizarre plot to TAKE OVER everything
That gets you onto the end of life pathways plan.
No sighting of Charlie yet.
Must be lost.
Translation:
it’s going down the Memory Hole, but we reserve the Right to resurrect it should another Coalition Government ever be Elected.
California Official Wants Gun Restrictions to be Based on the Ideological Viewpoints of Applicants
Crossroads with JOSHUA PHILIPP
What?
Is he talking about those dockworkers in WW2 who plundered the supplies being sent to the very troops fighting and dying to protect Australia, and sabotaging equipment of our allies until Mother Russia was attacked?
one turned up to a party in blackface.. the horror
‘ sactly, the lookers get a pass. It’s the morally right thing to do.
Activists have argued that abortifacients or the ‘morning after pill’ should be available over the counter to all age groups of women, including under sixteen year olds. The argument somehow overlooks the issue of the criminality of under-age sex, or perhaps condones it, all in the name of ‘rights’.
Maybe ask him about the crimes being committed in Xinjiang.
Defence Minister Richard Marles warns China is seeking to ‘shape the world’ as he pushes for a ‘change of tone’ in relationship (3 Jul)
I think he likes Mr Xi a lot, although clearly there are embarrassing things he doesn’t really want to talk about. He should practice the dance of the seven veils, I suspect he’d be very good at it.
Is he talking about the dockworkers who stole all the tools off the tanks sent to Vietnam in 1966?
The logic is muddled here. Surely you want to the pogs to stop breeding and so they should be encouraged to have abortions while at the same time disincentivising the loss of the good looking genes.
Every — EVERY!!! — Australian TV commercial must now include a dark-skinned female (preferably with an American accent). Because inclusion.
Australian advertising creatives are the dumbest human sheep ever born.
The example is of a 10 y.o. in Ohio who is 6 weeks 3 days pregnant.
That’s all you or anyone else knows for sure unless more details appear.
We don’t really even “know” that.
All we’ve got is someone who’s been making a living killing babies, and is now faced with a restriction on the profitability of that enterprise, claiming that this has occurred. I’m not asserting that it’s false – there’s no other evidence either way as far as I’m aware – but uncorroborated testimony of a single supposed witness with a considerable financial interest in the matter ought to be treated with some scepticism.
Especially where we’ve got the “dog that didn’t bark in the night” – the seemingly total absence of any publicly available mention of the rape itself for over six weeks after it’s supposed to have happened, yet six weeks and three days after the asserted offence wall to wall media hysteria because the alleged victim supposedly had to make a car trip to get an abortion.
mi engrish must be weally bwad google is showing me ads for … learning english
there’s the problem! she didn’t use a tesla
“It is dealing with a shameful episode in Australia’s military history,” Mr Marles told Sky News on Sunday.
Have there been any actual definitive findings of wrongdoing? I note Marles didn’t say “alleged” or anything like that.
My father knew all of the MP’s for Corio right back to JJ Dedman, and had a lot of respect for some of the Labor ones, but he regarded Marles as an empty suit.
Bachelor of Laws with Honours and he still can’t grasp the presumption of innocence.
So, I take it Monty has been bandying about the ‘10 year old rape victim’ argument.
Is it an argument because a 10 year old would not be able to carry a baby to term? I don’t think I have heard anyone say it is preferable that mother and baby die.
Or is it a particularly manipulative image to argue that victims of rape should be entitled to abortion – it being unfair that a victim should live with the result of the crime – overlooking that instead another being must lose its life.
Which is it?
he regarded Marles as an empty suit.
an Australian version of Sir Keir Starmer
Maybe that’s unfair to Stammer who did come from a modest background
And he did have a somewhat notable legal career before entering politics.
Marles became a union hack at the first opportunity after a stint at Slater & Gordon.
Cohenite:
You have a stronger gut than I.
3 minutes 42 seconds.
These people are not Boomers – so why is everyone blaming us for the shitstorm?
mizarissays:
July 3, 2022 at 1:43 pm
Are m0nty and Ed Case the same person? Why is Ed Case speaking for m0nty?
Dick Ed rarely gets more than a single tick on a comment, same for m0nty-fa.
And this seems to occur when both are actively commenting. Just sayin’.
Boambee John:
That was my initial impression – fitted all the criteria – rape, under age, just over the time limit, horrible doctor who wouldn’t allow the abortion.
I smell a Dead Monty Rat.
And it wouldn’t be the first time.
Dickless
You get his bevy of paid right wing Trolls thrown in for free.
Reminds me, you haven’t sent either this month’s or last month’s cheques. Wake up, or I will increase the price. $10 a word is far too low for having to read m0nty-fa’s drivel anyway.
Because it’s funny.
Professional courtesy.
m0nty-fa
Pills are approved for use up to 10 weeks, and are frequently used after that mark as well. Your assertion that abortifacients are “normally used in the first couple of days” is patently wrong,
Perhaps you could link to the statistical/medical data that confirm these assertions?
Or perhaps not.
Ed Casesays:
July 3, 2022 at 1:58 pm
Burkes Peerage has 1,286 entries under Montgomery, so it wouldn’t be surprising if SpongeBob and a few others quack
Yes, Lord M0nty, no, Lord M0nty, three bags full, …
as they receive their daily talking points.
Whereas we quip, “Oh, bugger, more of this tripe, and the pay isn’t even that good” when we receive your talking (driveling) points.
I’m sick of the ‘but ten year old girl’ the abortion on demand til birth lot hide behind.
Most likely scenario is the pregnancy was only identified in the late second or third trimester and there weren’t any doctors in-state willing, even in those circumstances, to perform a late term abortion.
Iirc going out of state for a late term abortion in the US has been a thing for many years.
Urine Pregnancy test
Maybe Faulty’s fax machine is broken.
Why reinvent the wheel?
Read the Hill article ‘6 weeks and 3 days’.
What amazing accuracy.
Nevertheless out of state abortions are neither new or really noteworthy.
“In 2021, 465, or about 5.5% of the more than 8,400 abortions performed, were done on out-of-state residents, according to the Indiana Department of Health’s most recent terminated pregnancy report. More than half, 264, lived in Kentucky and 40 in Ohio.”
article here
Bruce O’Newk:
Looxury!
I have to go 200Km for a CT scan.
Scandalous!
It’s not a hypothetical any more, rosie. It happened mere days after Dobbs came down. It’s the new normal in American red states.
That’s the edge case your mob have set up. Of course it’s going to be in the media. It’s the starkest consequence of the Opus Dei Court.
It is possible the girl didn’t know she was pregnant at ten, though. At that age she could also have blamed herself and kept it secret.
Doofus, NY State is next door. It’s not a huge road trip to get a hoovering across the border. Stop the drama queening and get back in the basement. You’re not allowed above ground until the summer of 2032.
I see Jizz-Lane Maxwell copped twenty years during the week.
Is anyone still advancing the theory that this is just about half-a-dozen grifters looking for a payday?
When they were 19 at the time, yes.
No it is not.
Ohio statute law allows for abortion where the health of the mother is in danger (as in a ten year old pregnant after being raped).
You have asserted the Ohio medical board regulations do not allow this, but you have never backed up this assertion without any evidence.
Why millennials and gen Z hate boomers.
Monty is reduced to not being able to get an in state abortion as his latest ‘that’s terrible Muriel’.
As though US states have build impenetrable walls since last week.
In 2019 anticipating Roe v Wade being overturned six states considerably loosened abortion laws.
Sometimes it’s actually more convenient to go ‘interstate’.
And while Monty cries a bucket of tears about a girl having to be driven a few extra miles to get her baby syringed, his heart is made of stone for millions of much younger children.
the 1973 abortion bus
“It’s the starkest consequence of the Opus Dei Court.”
Do I detect Catholic bashing?
It has nothing to do with hypothetical btw abortion on demandists have always hidden behind rape and incest cases.
The more you think about this argument the worse it becomes. The object of the law is the protection of the child in utero. That’s it. If it were the ‘oppression of women’ why would we, as you allege, not also be prosecuting them? Not that prosecuting constitutes oppression. Further, if ‘a permanent underclass of underpaid workers for capitalists to exploit’ was the object why would capitalists actually oppose it, and why are neoliberals in and out of the Repubs vocal opponents? You really didn’t think this one through, Monty.
Well, good to see the SES are on the ball in our neck of cyclonic South Head.
Three orange suited SES people (one a woman) climbing a big ladder have opened up the damaged skylight next door and are looking at ways to temporarily secure it as waterproof.
I haven’t yet spoken to the owners. Tell them I saw it happen, I called down to the SES.
A witness for insurance purposes in case that is needed. I won’t say that for quite a while it has looked a bit dodgy along one of the flashings.
Are you really that dumb, Monty?
The southern states are predominantly evangelical Christian, it is the people who are democratically deciding they don’t care for abortion as a means of contraception.
Your zingers are the worst.
Blaming Opus Dei is as dumb as claiming there is a global cabal of red shoe wearers.
I thought the exploitable underclass were the millions of undocumented workers flooding across the border.
Putting those aside* for a moment, does anyone believe that there weren’t scores, even hundreds, of indisputably under-aged girls raped by Epstein and his buddies, and they were procured by Jizz-Lane?
….
* 19 year olds taken to a private island, with no mobile phone coverage, knowing that they were totally dependent on Epstein to leave then pressured for sexual favours?
That’s a strong case for rape.
“Blaming Opus Dei is as dumb as claiming there is a global cabal of red shoe wearers.”
Rosie, he is dumb.
Actually, there aren’t. Depends where you are located and if you wish to spend money on fares.
Opening hours can be uncertain. And mobile units can be uncertain in their times too. You also have to be fairly well locked into the homeless ‘system’ to even know about half of these places.
I haven’t deserved all of my luck, so I think I can spread a bit about. People making a living by begging is humiliating for them, and sometimes the best they can do. I often gift a gold coin or two.
Who am I to judge?
Better co-ordinated services would help to solve some, but not all, of this misery.
Hehe Lizzie, you should not mention that, not unless you’re a building inspector or qualified structural engineer. Sans appropriate qualifications your observation is merely that of an unschooled layman (angel face), with qualifications you’d have to have conducted an inspection.
If I take a girlfriend camping (and not “glamping”), is it rape?
It should be kept in mind that the star witness/victim (according to tabloids) seemed most shy when it came to opportunities to appear under oath & be grilled on her
role/victimhood.Not until your multi-millionaire cover story turns out to be fake.
Political Reality
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/humor/political-reality/
The “Implication”
It’s not a hypothetical any more, rosie. It happened mere days after Dobbs came down. It’s the new normal in American red states.
And m0nty-fa steadfastly continuers to ignore the vastly more numerous cases of sex selection (What has m0nty-fa got against girls being born?), late term abortions, and the ever-popular (I didn’t want to have a baby right now.) lifestyle abortions.
He wants unrestricted abortions on request for anyone, but is hiding behind a young child as a shield for his grotesque aims.
It’s an appealing thought to imagine Bolte turning up, like Marley’s ghost, at the foot of Matthew Guy’s bed, although he wouldn’t bother with all that rattling of chains and so forth.
No, being a straightforward sort, he’d beat the useless bugger black and blue and then depart after emptying the chamber pot on Groundhog Day’s head.
No worries about the Ectoplasm Police taking action, either, as all who recall how Bolte ran off the road when pissed as 40 men and was charged with DWI. Yet somehow, beyond explanation, the charge sheet simply vanished! Unlike the Dan Andrews variety of corruption, that was a one-off, entirely excusable and quite endearing.
“Now where’s that dim bastard Guy?”
Hahaha. The top half of a guy with hard hat on in full orange gear is sticking out of next door’s roof like a jack-in-the-box. They are fitting in some corflute stuff to act as a temporary cover. I have my blinds open and he sees me sitting here looking out at him, and gives me a smile and a wave.
I was cheerily back.
Nice to see a volunteer so happy in his work. The lid’s gone down on him now but I can still hear major discussions going on down on the ground.
Maxwell may have been the “procurer” but for whom? There must have been customers.
Will they have their day in court?
Cassie of Sydneysays:
July 3, 2022 at 3:54 pm
“It’s the starkest consequence of the Opus Dei Court.”
Do I detect Catholic bashing?
The word you are groping for is “bigotry”.
Any connection between m0nty-fa and the Catholic faith seems to essentially one of convenience.
In fact, WIP had an excellent meme on the subject.