Open Thread – Tues 5 July 2022


Surrender of Lord Cornwallis, John Trumbull, 1820

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Zipster
July 7, 2022 5:49 pm

In fact, rewarding or condoning crimes is regulated by the Criminal Code, and the Lipp-backed Russian invasion doubtfully constitutes a crime under international criminal law, according to experts.

but supporting ukraine’s war crimes is ignored and encouraged.. go figure

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 7, 2022 5:54 pm

Also in the NT:

One of the youths involved in the fatal crash in Manton on Sunday night that resulted in the 15-year-old driver being killed and four others hospitalized, has been charged for his role in an alleged robbery committed shortly before the horrific crash, NT Police said.

Police have also released new details about the incident, including that the surviving youths involved in the crash had allegedly assaulted a passer-by who had stopped at the scene of the collision to offer help.

Police said the man was allegedly assaulted by some of the occupants of the stolen LandCruiser who attempted and failed to steal his car.

More at the NT Independent

struth
struth
July 7, 2022 5:54 pm

JC.
Such aggression.
Did you get that check up?
Poor old spag, screaming atta the world because you’ll now never know if you could have made it yourself without the family business.

Dot
Dot
July 7, 2022 5:55 pm

I can’t stop laughing….

Kek kek kek kek kek….

Count Dankula tells morons on twitter he’s a US Supreme Court justice, internet breaks.

https://youtu.be/hEcE__RCW8s

Razey
Razey
July 7, 2022 5:55 pm

Top Endersays:
July 7, 2022 at 5:36 pm
Victoria ponders covid rules again. Amazing in a Herald-Sun poll – just opened – 23% are saying yes please daddy, govern me harder.

Would you support a return to mask/work from home mandates?
Yes, we need to curb the spread of the virus 23 %
No, keep things as they are 77 %
164 votes

Having been to Melbourne Airport twice in the last couple of weeks, I can safely say that most people dont give a flying fuck about masks. Almost everyone has had covid, it’s a nothing burger. We have moved on. But the overlords don’t want us to.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 7, 2022 5:55 pm

Subversive Grandma at work there

You must do these things, LizzieB..

Diogenes
Diogenes
July 7, 2022 5:58 pm

A lot of the ads for multinational products like cars are made in the US or Europe and simply dubbed with Australian voiceovers.

While that is true, the Ozzie made ones use new stereotypes. Tonight saw 2 ads with a twist, the white chick is trash/silly

struth
struth
July 7, 2022 5:59 pm

That’s 23% of herald sun readers…not Victorians.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 6:00 pm

Yes, we need to curb the spread of the virus 23 %

Talk about a leading question.

These ‘surveys’ are so often full of them.

Try a simple ‘yes’ or ‘no’ or a five-point agree-disagree scale and get a very different response.

Winston Smith
July 7, 2022 6:01 pm

ZK2A:

Soaring inflation in the southern African country has been piling pressure on a population already struggling with shortages and stirring memories of economic chaos years ago under veteran leader Robert Mugabe’s near four-decade rule.
Annual inflation, which hit almost 192 per cent in June, cast a shadow over President Emmerson Mnangagwa’s bid to revitalise the economy.

So is SA better off under white or black rule?
Of course it was better off under white rule, but we – and they – aren’t allowed that option.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 6:01 pm

You must do these things, LizzieB..

Grandmas were put on this earth for it, Zulu. 🙂

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 7, 2022 6:01 pm

Do not be surprised to wake up one day and hear China tell the world it has resurrected the Orion Project and has a 10 million ton base heading there.

I do so hope they do the ground launch version. Greenie heads will explode.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 6:06 pm

Vice President Kamala Harris said: “Gas prices are high due to gas prices not being low as before. To get back to lower prices we have to acknowledge gas is high which is the opposite of low.”

How does this woman manage to get herself dressed in the morning?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 7, 2022 6:07 pm

Police have also released new details about the incident, including that the surviving youths involved in the crash had allegedly assaulted a passer-by who had stopped at the scene of the collision to offer help.

Case in the West Australian wheatbelt, a few years ago, where a Good Samaritan, who pulled over to offer help, in a similar situation was bashed and had his car stolen.

There were complaints made, after that, because people were not pulling over to help, in similar situations…

m0nty
m0nty
July 7, 2022 6:10 pm

I see Boris is for the chopping block. Good.

His replacement will no doubt be worse, but it’s healthy to get rid of a bloke for rank incompetence.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 7, 2022 6:16 pm

An Aboriginal gang called the German boys. Are they the goodies or the baddies and is it considered bad form to be a member of the Brit boys as might trigger past generational trauma.

Either way, no more new houses for a couple of years and might be a good thing.

How come we never hear about them fighting with boomerangs or spears ? Whatever happened to tradition ?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 7, 2022 6:19 pm

So is SA better off under white or black rule?
Of course it was better off under white rule, but we – and they – aren’t allowed that option.

Speaker in the bar of the “Green Dolphin” in Capetown.

“Mandela made a speech before “Black Majority Rule’ where he promised Africans that you won’t be driving a B.M.W. the day after “Black Majority Rule.” It may take five years, but you’ll be driving a B.M.W. It is now fourteen years since Black Majority Rule, and the symbols of our once mighty country are still a squatters shack and a toilet bucket.”

Winston Smith
July 7, 2022 6:19 pm

The Frolicking Moll:

Cultural revolution/ Red guards, if they thought they could get away with it.

Remember the diners being harassed in the street by the BLM Fascists?
I do.
These people are ripe for the uncertainties of their own Cultural Revolution – and are totally unaware they will be the first victims.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2022 6:20 pm

Thank you for that further information re Ms. Lipp’s troubles with the German authorities, Zipster.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
July 7, 2022 6:21 pm

Vice President Kamala Harris said: “Gas prices are high due to gas prices not being low as before. To get back to lower prices we have to acknowledge gas is high which is the opposite of low.”

It’s been “fact checked” as false, for what that’s worth.
It certainly does look like satire, but every time I think the human species can’t sink lower a “progressive” broadens my outlook.

m0nty
m0nty
July 7, 2022 6:22 pm

Boris Johnson reportedly set to resign today.

He will have been PM for two years and 348 days… exactly the same time as Neville Chamberlain.

JC
JC
July 7, 2022 6:24 pm

struth says:
July 7, 2022 at 5:54 pm

JC.
Such aggression.

Mocking a complete idiot is “aggression”, Tootsie Winkle?

Did you get that check up?

For what, I’m a perfect human specimen.

Poor old spag, screaming atta the world because you’ll now never know if you could have made it yourself without the family business.

LOL, you know nothing about me and the person screaming at the world is you, you redneck imbecile. All you’ve done for 1 1/2 years is scream at people for relevance as no one really pays you any attention. Even your son ignored you.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 7, 2022 6:24 pm

He will have been PM for two years and 348 days… exactly the same time as Neville Chamberlain.

Relevance?

JC
JC
July 7, 2022 6:25 pm

Stuth

Tell us, is your vaxxed son still talking to you? Presumably you’ve abused him too or are you doing that to us?

Winston Smith
July 7, 2022 6:25 pm

Eyrie:

Did the Third Reich win WW2 or something?

I’ve seen a couple of newspapers about this, but didn’t Operation Paperclip grab their best scientists, technicians and scumbag politicians for the West?
It seems that way…

JC
JC
July 7, 2022 6:28 pm

His replacement will no doubt be worse, but it’s healthy to get rid of a bloke for rank incompetence.

Really? You appear to have set very high expectations. What about him, Monster?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 7, 2022 6:29 pm

An Aboriginal gang called the German boys.

Looking up that story, the alleged leader of that gang – a “cultural elder’, whatever that is, has just been bailed for his part in the rioting.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 7, 2022 6:31 pm

the white chick is trash/silly
And stuffing herself with KFC by any chance?
Anyhooo, still white, still up for ridicule.

Tom
Tom
July 7, 2022 6:32 pm

Monty, the reason Boris Johnson is being booted is because, like the Stupid Fucking Australian Liberals, he believes in nothing — after being elected in a landslide (like the hopeless Tony Abbott) to steer the UK out of Europe and to get rid of insane leftard EU policies.

The fact he was got at by his neurotic, mentally ill missus is of no consequence to us. In fact, we’re wondering why it took so long.

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2022 6:32 pm

Boris Johnson reportedly set to resign today.

He will have been PM for two years and 348 days… exactly the same time as Neville Chamberlain.”

Good, fabulous, fantastic. This time the UK might get a real conservative leader and PM, unlike the hypocritical, net zero emissions, tax increasing, lying, green fixed blob that Boris Johnson is. He did get Brexit done but he was elected because the alternative was too unpalatable, you know who I’m talking about don’t you, the hard-left, Jew hating, terrorist sympathiser Jeremy Corbyn.

Oh and remember who came after Chamberlain, Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill.

Hooray.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Biden puts medal on backwards

At least he got it the right way up.
Wait until Kamala takes over.

rickw
rickw
July 7, 2022 6:34 pm

Ex-Green Alina Lipp spreads Russian conspiracy myths and lies on social media.

Modern Politicians can’t handle Free Speech because they’re basically fucking idiots incapable of debating.

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2022 6:34 pm

“Monty, the reason Boris Johnson is being booted is because, like the Stupid Fucking Australian Liberals, he believes in nothing — after being elected in a landslide (like the hopeless Tony Abbott) to steer the UK out of Europe and to get rid of insane leftard EU policies.

The fact he was got at by his neurotic, mentally ill missus is of no consequence to us. In fact, we’re wondering why it took so long.”

Hear hear.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 7, 2022 6:34 pm

He will have been PM for two years and 348 days… exactly the same time as Neville Chamberlain

Gargooglish. Seek help.

JC
JC
July 7, 2022 6:34 pm

Does anyone know if the PLA has landed at Tullamarine. Someone is expecting an invasion with the Chinese using regularly scheduled passenger jets.

19.00 hours flight from Guangdong is on time for melbourne landing

JC
JC
July 7, 2022 6:35 pm

+11.78

Winston Smith
July 7, 2022 6:36 pm

Eyrie:

Winston: Do not be surprised to wake up one day and hear China tell the world it has resurrected the Orion Project and has a 10 million ton base heading there.

I do so hope they do the ground launch version. Greenie heads will explode.

The ‘build in orbit’ version removes the positives of ground launch.
I want to see the Greenies answers to the ground launch version.

Diogenes
Diogenes
July 7, 2022 6:36 pm

the white chick is trash/silly
And stuffing herself with KFC by any chance?

That’s one , Macca’s is another.
3 females, 1 each white, African, Asian. The white girl rubs her face all over the bag of Macca’s the Asian girl has just brought.

bespoke
bespoke
July 7, 2022 6:37 pm

Not politicians, Winston.

Dot
Dot
July 7, 2022 6:39 pm

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To his credit, “JC” said this years ago.

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2022 6:39 pm

Boris has resigned….hooray.

Diogenes
Diogenes
July 7, 2022 6:39 pm

Good, fabulous, fantastic. This time the UK might get a real conservative leader and

Yeah, nah. The 2 front runners are even more mendacious and unprincipled.

Mater
July 7, 2022 6:40 pm

Some guy spent 6 years getting qualified, massive debts, bought a mortgage with the intention of raising a family, suddenly he’s supposed to throw his life away because the average Australian is too dumb and frightened to say:
Stick your Vaccines up your arse.
Ordinary people don’t have Agency, but Doctors are supposed to throw themselves on the pyre.
Is that it?

Ed,
You missed your calling as a defence lawyer…by about 75 years and 14,440 kms.
I’m sure your argument would have worked, if only you’d delivered it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 7, 2022 6:40 pm

I’ve seen a couple of newspapers about this, but didn’t Operation Paperclip grab their best scientists, technicians and scumbag politicians for the West?

I did read an account where the Soviets lifted 6,000 Nazi scientists and technicians, with their families, and whipped them off, behind the Iron Curtain, in one night.

Dot
Dot
July 7, 2022 6:41 pm

bespokesays:
July 7, 2022 at 6:24 pm
This horrifying abortion story went viral in the wake of Roe v. Wade’s repeal, but some people are skeptical of it—and you can understand why.

Good content.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 7, 2022 6:42 pm

“Daily Mail.”

Boris Johnson will QUIT and make ‘statement to the country’ TODAY after Nadhim Zahawi breaks cover to demand he ‘goes NOW’ to stop tidal wave of Tory revolt from crippling the UK

Boris Johnson flatly rejected calls to quit last night and dramatically sacked Cabinet rival Michael Gove
A fresh wave of resignations has seen seven more ministers join the exodus from the stricken government
Mr Johnson met previously-loyal ministers in No10 who told him he had lost the confidence of the Tory party
PM’s allies raised the prospect of ‘nuclear option’ by asking Queen to dissolve parliament and trigger election

Winston Smith
July 7, 2022 6:46 pm

Bespoke:

Not politicians, Winston.

Sometimes, I wonder.

m0nty
m0nty
July 7, 2022 6:47 pm

It is certainly amazing how powerful a position Johnson was in after he assumed the office, assisted to an astounding degree by Corbyn destroying Labour… and yet he is out in disgrace after less than three years. All he needed was a mere modicum of competence – say, Morrisonian levels – and he could have coasted to further victories.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 7, 2022 6:47 pm

The Americans scooped up Unit 731, surgeons, orderlies, guards, Dr. Ishi, their families, the lot and settled them in the United States.
Where they all lived happily ever after.

JMH
JMH
July 7, 2022 6:50 pm

I’ve just caught up with the news that Borie is about to fall on his penknife. I thought Johnson would be good value (getting Britain out of the EU) but as soon as it was obvious his testicles were being crushed in a Green vice, he proved he was not worth any more oxygen. Resign you capitulating arsehole and good riddance.

Winston Smith
July 7, 2022 6:50 pm

ZK2A:

I did read an account where the Soviets lifted 6,000 Nazi scientists and technicians, with their families, and whipped them off, behind the Iron Curtain, in one night.

I was joking about the politicians being grabbed, but yes, I remember the Soviet Operation Paperclip.
An interesting facet of that was the Soviets had excellent intel about the people they were getting and in a few cases ignored the wives and grabbed the mistresses.
Never underestimate the GRU.

Vicki
Vicki
July 7, 2022 6:51 pm

Rebecca Weissner, who writes for the Australian Spectator is one journalist who understands that good journalism requires research and analysis. Her article on the declining fertility of women in western countries and the increase in miscarriages is revealing.

Where have all the babies gone?
Progressives rage about the right to abort while birth rates tumble
Rebecca Weisser

Rebecca Weisser
9 July 2022

Precipitous falls are showing up in fertility data across the developed (and highly vaccinated) world. Japan recorded only 811,604 births in 2021, the lowest number of births since data began to be collected in 1899, and a 3.5 per cent decrease from the previous year.

The fertility picture also looks bleak in Taiwan where the number of babies born in May 2022 decreased by more than 23 per cent compared with the same month in the previous year.

In the US, there have been declines in fertility of between 5 and 12 per cent in various states comparing April 2022 with April 2021. In Europe there have also been marked declines in the most recent fertility data published in a number of countries. In Sweden there was a 10 per cent decline in April 2022 compared to April 2021. In the UK, there was a decline of 10 per cent in the most recent data available, for February 2022 compared with February 2021.

What could be causing this? Stefan Homburg, Professor of Public Economics at Leibniz University in Hannover drew attention to a decline in births in Germany of 13 per cent in the first quarter of 2022 compared with the first quarter of the previous year. He also noted that this came around nine months after people aged 18-59 began to be vaccinated in May 2021.

Could Covid vaccination be the culprit? Certainly all of these countries are highly vaccinated. Indeed, Taiwan has one of the highest per capita rates of vaccination in the world (89 per cent), narrowly surpassing Australia, with Japan, the UK, Sweden and Germany not far behind. Are the vaccines safe? Who really knows? Covid vaccines were deemed to be safe for pregnant women despite the fact that pregnant women were specifically excluded from clinical trials.

Pfizer’s randomised controlled trial in pregnant women won’t be completed until next month. Instead, it relied on a study on the safety of the vaccine in 42 Han Wistar rats conducted by ten scientists, nine of whom were employed by, and held stock in Pfizer or BioNTech. The scientists said their report should be ‘coupled’ with data from the US Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System which currently shows that risk of a miscarriage following a Covid vaccine is at least 16 times greater than following a flu vaccine.

The scientists claimed that their study showed there were no effects on female rat fertility but a freedom of information (FOI) request to Australia’s Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) revealed that the person assigned to assess the Pfizer study didn’t agree. They recommended that information about an increase in birth defects in the vaccinated rats be displayed in the vaccine’s product information.

In particular, the assessor recommended the deletion of a statement by Pfizer which claimed that, ‘Animal studies do not indicate direct or indirect harmful effects with respect to pregnancy, embryo/foetal development, parturition or post-natal development,’ and that it be replaced with a statement that said, ‘A combined fertility and developmental toxicity study in rats showed increased occurrence of supernumerary lumbar ribs in foetuses from COMIRNATY-treated female rats’. This was not done.

The assessor also recommended that the Pfizer vaccine should be categorised ‘Pregnancy B2’, a rating which indicates that ‘Studies in animals are inadequate or may be lacking but available data shows no evidence of an increased occurrence of foetal damage’. Instead, the TGA designated the vaccine, ‘Pregnancy B1’ which makes no mention of the fact that the studies are inadequate or lacking and simply states that ‘Studies in animals have not shown evidence of an increased occurrence of foetal damage’.

It doesn’t seem to have occurred to Pfizer to investigate the impact of the vaccine on male fertility however a retrospective Israeli study of sperm samples found that sperm concentration was reduced for three months after donors were vaccinated. The good news is that it then returned to normal, and semen volume and the ability of sperm to swim (motility) was not affected. The not so good news is that presumably male fertility is affected each time a man has a booster shot.

Other disturbing data has also emerged suggesting that the vaccines might not be so benign. In February, Josh Guetzkow, a senior lecturer at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem reported that data from the Rambam hospital in Haifa revealed a stillbirth, miscarriage and abortion rate of 6 per cent among women who never received a Covid-19 vaccine, compared to 8 per cent among women who were vaccinated with at least one dose (and never had a SARS-Cov-2 infection), suggesting the risk for the vaccinated was 1.36 times higher that for the unvaccinated.

Guetzkow reported this week that in Germany, data recently released under freedom of information laws showed that there has been a dramatic increase in stillbirths starting in April 2021 and rising to a 25 per cent increase between December 21 and January 22. This is consistent with a similar increase in stillbirths and neonatal deaths reported in official data in Scotland.

In a study in the UK last year which looked at disturbances to women’s menstrual cycles post vaccination, 35,000 women reported disturbances to their cycle of at least one month and there were frequent reports of heavy and/or irregular bleeding.

Has there been a fall in fertility in Australia? It’s still too early to say. Most 20 to 49-year-olds were vaccinated between September and December 2021 so if there is a drop in fertility it might only be starting to emerge over the next three months. In addition, the lag in reporting national fertility rates means that the Australian Bureau of Statistics won’t report on fertility data for 2022 until December 2023!

Ironically, the fall in fertility has emerged at the same time as ‘progressives’ rage against the decision by the Supreme Court to overturn the judgment on Roe v. Wade, which returns decisions on abortion to state legislatures in the US.

That has provoked outrage, even in Australia, despite the fact that state legislatures have always determined abortion rights here. For men and women of childbearing age a fall in fertility – temporary or more enduring – would be far more consequential than Roe v. Wade.

Yet so long as vaccines are implicated as a possible cause, don’t expect to hear about it in mainstream media any time soon.

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2022 6:51 pm

“Yeah, nah. The 2 front runners are even more mendacious and unprincipled.”

I don’t think the British public, especially the Red Wall voters and the conservative heartland of the south of England, would have given a toss about Boris’ parties and casual lies, had he been a true conservative, had he dealt with the illegal immigrants, had he started to unwind some of Blair’s policies, had he dealt with a far-left bureaucracy. But no, as Tom mentioned above, just like our own stupid Liberals, Johnson was a man completely lacking in any conservative principles….in the same mould as David Cameron and Theresa May. The UK has basically had soft socialism since 1997, its institutions have been completely trashed by successive leftist governments, and that includes the governments of Cameron, May and Johnson. Johnson was no different to Scumbag Morrison, empty suits. Both gone now……good.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 7, 2022 6:52 pm

Boris Johnson’s [paternal] G/Grandaddy was a Turkish Quisling who ended up being brained by an irate mob and hanged from a bridge.

It’s not inaccurate [imho] to suggest that the apple didn’t fall far from the tree.

Winston Smith
July 7, 2022 6:53 pm

ZK2A:

Mr Johnson met previously-loyal ministers in No10 who told him he had lost the confidence of the Tory party
PM’s allies raised the prospect of ‘nuclear option’ by asking Queen to dissolve parliament and trigger election

I’m sure Her Majesty would like to do that – dissolve the bastards in hydrochloric acid.
Or gypsum.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2022 6:54 pm

I thought Johnson would be good value (getting Britain out of the EU) but as soon as it was obvious his testicles were being crushed in a Green vice, he proved he was not worth any more oxygen.

Those who followed Johnson’s stint as mayor of London knew to keep their expectations low so as to avoid disappointment.

Tom
Tom
July 7, 2022 6:59 pm

Monty, you clown — Scott Morrison wasn’t “competent”. He was Turnbull’s hand-picked choice to destroy the Stupid Fucking Liberal Party, which was Turnbull’s only reason for becoming PM.

Vicki
Vicki
July 7, 2022 7:07 pm

What I’m getting at, Vicki, is that medical and scientific professions who are meant to hold public and individual health as their foremost professional concern evaded that responsibility, which evasion has led to caused untold & unnecessary suffering and death.

Fair ’nuff Roger.

Ed reckons that the medical profession can’t be expected to throw away all their studies, their commitments etc to express a professional opinion which risks the ire of the medical associations. Think deeply about the implications of that observation, because it can be applied to some fairly consequential decisions in human history.

I understand the decisions of those doctors, but I elevate those who take a stand for patients to the status of heroes.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2022 7:10 pm

Ed reckons that the medical profession can’t be expected to throw away all their studies, their commitments etc to express a professional opinion which risks the ire of the medical associations.

Yes…just following orders.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 7, 2022 7:11 pm

Ambon, Nutmeg, Black Plague, Dutchies, waterboarding, heads on pikes … MH17!
John Helmer

Mater
July 7, 2022 7:13 pm

Ed reckons that the medical profession can’t be expected to throw away all their studies, their commitments etc to express a professional opinion which risks the ire of the medical associations. Think deeply about the implications of that observation, because it can be applied to some fairly consequential decisions in human history.

Exactly the point of my comment above.

Also, Ed’s theory could just as easily applied to a Military Officer ordered to gun down civilians in a foreign land. You expect them to risk their career by defying an order?

It’s a stupid defence which should have seen it’s last airing at Nuremberg.

bespoke
bespoke
July 7, 2022 7:17 pm

Only if the doctor knew of the side effects before hand.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 7, 2022 7:18 pm

Think deeply about the implications of that observation, because it can be applied to some fairly consequential decisions in human history.
Would you care to expand on that?
No one’s being persecuted, imprisoned, murdered, yet you appear to be demanding that an essential service that huge public resources have been spent on sacrifice their careers on behalf of people who are too lazy and stupid to get informed.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 7, 2022 7:22 pm

Also, Ed’s theory could just as easily applied to a Military Officer ordered to gun down civilians in a foreign land. You expect them to risk their career by defying an order?

You’re comparing Doctors to murderers.

Perhaps you ought to put down the CrackPipe?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 7, 2022 7:29 pm

The Americans scooped up Unit 731, surgeons, orderlies, guards, Dr. Ishi, their families, the lot and settled them in the United States.

The Soviets grabbed a few.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 7, 2022 7:29 pm

So this lawyer will not be prosecuted for helping his client. Makes sense to me.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-07/attorney-general-orders-charges-dropped-against-bernard-collaery/101217272

What does this imply for Julian Assange?

(… crickets …)

Crossie
Crossie
July 7, 2022 7:30 pm

I don’t think Boris Johnson will resign, he will have to be dragged kicking and screaming out of 10 Downing Street.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 7, 2022 7:32 pm

Rutte’s initial reaction to the MH17 crash in July 2014 had been to mobilize several thousand Dutch troops to invade eastern Ukraine under NATO air cover, along with an Australian brigade; the pretext was to recover the MH17 black boxes and the bodies of those aboard. The plan was stopped by German Chancellor Angela Merkel who was afraid of triggering a direct military clash with Russia. After the crash Dutch special police worked with the SBU to rig the autopsy evidence to support the allegation of a Russian army missile attack on the aircraft; Dutch military intelligence reports did not support the allegation.

From the John Helmer link above

What’s Albanese committed us to while he was over there?
Looks like Tony Abbott promised a Brigade.
Another of his Captain’s Calls?

Crossie
Crossie
July 7, 2022 7:33 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
July 7, 2022 at 6:39 pm
Boris has resigned….hooray.

No he hasn’t, just wishful thinking. He ain’t moving, that man has no honour or sense of obligation or he wouldn’t have ended up in this mess.

Crossie
Crossie
July 7, 2022 7:39 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
July 7, 2022 at 6:06 pm
Vice President Kamala Harris said: “Gas prices are high due to gas prices not being low as before. To get back to lower prices we have to acknowledge gas is high which is the opposite of low.”
How does this woman manage to get herself dressed in the morning?

Nobody could be that stupid. I’m starting to think that she’s performing a running gag and will soon do a ta da, had you all fooled. Could she be a method comedienne?

Winston Smith
July 7, 2022 7:39 pm

Vicki:

Rebecca Weissner, who writes for the Australian Spectator is one journalist who understands that good journalism requires research and analysis. Her article on the declining fertility of women in western countries and the increase in miscarriages is revealing.

Something to think about here is that the issue of nonreplacement of our population may not be due to the Fauxcines, but it may be a long term effect of the growth of the State.
Now we are able to control our reproduction, the cost of children is now the largest factor in family size.
Whereas children and fecundity were just a normal thing in the past, now they are able to be balanced off against other competing demands.
Unfortunately one of those competing demands is taxation.
And there’s the problem.
Until the demands of the rapacious state can be negated, families will not grow beyond replacement.
Hungary? has bitten the demographic bullet and decided to allow tax breaks for larger families instead of offering invaders a place in the welfare system ahead of their own people.

Mater
July 7, 2022 7:44 pm

You’re comparing Doctors to murderers.
Perhaps you ought to put down the CrackPipe?

Once again, you miss the point.
You’re not good at this, are you?

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 7, 2022 7:46 pm

Hungary? has bitten the demographic bullet and decided to allow tax breaks for larger families instead of offering invaders a place in the welfare system ahead of their own people.

A tad out of date.
Hungary has taken 700 Ukrainian Refugees/ 10,000 head of population, more per capita than any other European Country except Slovakia, Poland and Moldova.
They’ve Officially Cucked.

Mater
July 7, 2022 7:49 pm

Only if the doctor knew of the side effects before hand.

If we are talking about the vaccines, then they shouldn’t have gone along with mandates if they didn’t.

If you are talking about ceasing cancer treatments, screening, etc, what exactly did they anticipate would happen? Aren’t they medical professionals?
We on the Cat seemed to anticipate/know in May 2020.

Winston Smith
July 7, 2022 7:50 pm

Mr Ed:

Ed reckons that the medical profession can’t be expected to throw away all their studies, their commitments etc to express a professional opinion which risks the ire of the medical associations. Think deeply about the implications of that observation, because it can be applied to some fairly consequential decisions in human history.

I’ve done just that/risked doing that on three different occasions.
I had an interview once where the interviewer had previously rung one of my references.
“Winston can be a pain in the arse at times. Don’t let him leave your office without a signature on a contract.”

rosie
rosie
July 7, 2022 7:53 pm

Hungary, wisely, refused muslim, mostly young male, refugees.
Ukrainian Christians don’t represent quite the same threat to their civilisation.

Winston Smith
July 7, 2022 7:55 pm

Ed Case:

Hungary has taken 700 Ukrainian Refugees/ 10,000 head of population, more per capita than any other European Country except Slovakia, Poland and Moldova.

You can’t tell the difference between an invader and a refugee?
Sux2BU.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 7:58 pm

The fact he was got at by his neurotic, mentally ill missus is of no consequence to us. In fact, we’re wondering why it took so long.

No tears over the loss of Carrie Antoinette.

Like Abbott, Boris has squandered a major opportunity to have set Britain right.
When we drove down that long street of abandonned businesses in Grimsby I thought Boris was going to be a goner soon.

Looks like now.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 7, 2022 7:58 pm

Ukrainian Christians don’t represent quite the same threat to their civilisation.
The Dutch are Christians too, yet they aren’t impressed at all with their high maintenance Ukrainian refugees.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 7, 2022 7:59 pm

Daisy Cousens with Rowan Dean.
The woman has gesticulation Tourette’s.
Needs gaffer taping to the chair.

cohenite
July 7, 2022 8:02 pm

I think its been mentioned already but its worth repeating: human excrement biden has released a gigantic amount of the US Strategic Oil Reserve, ostensibly to ease US gas prices; but in fact most of it has been exported to places like India and the fucking chunks.

I would think the evidence of biden’s treason is so overwhelming that a firing squad should be organised. Assuming one can espouse the execution of a sitting US POTUS. Oh wait.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 8:03 pm

Sky News UK are all gathering outside Number Ten at 11am their time awaiting the resignation announcement from Boris at High Noon. I think this is going to be it for him. There are 58 who have signed against him, enough for a vote to be called.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 7, 2022 8:07 pm

When we drove down that long street of abandonned businesses in Grimsby I thought Boris was going to be a goner soon.

The Road to Grimsby?
You’re just Trolling now.

bespoke
bespoke
July 7, 2022 8:08 pm

If we are talking about the vaccines, then they shouldn’t have gone along with mandates if they didn’t.

GP’s didn’t force enyone.

Target those who’s job is supply the information to them.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 7, 2022 8:08 pm

Like everything associated with the defective individual, getting rid of all KRuddy leader preservation rules would be a good idea.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 8:09 pm

Daisy Cousens with Rowan Dean.

Daisy Cousins is a nice enough young woman with her heart in the right place politically but she speaks most unnaturally, rather as though she is acting, and it is not good for TV. It might work better on youtube in a more casual setting and to a younger demographic. There are other women who would have been far better replacements in these opinion shows, even younger ones if Sky feels it needs to appeal to a youth demographic. The styles she enjoys won’t work well after about age thirty-five either.

Good on her for getting out and having a go though. It’s sometimes all too easy to criticise.

Rabz
July 7, 2022 8:11 pm

Harris said: “Gas prices are high due to gas prices not being low as before. To get back to lower prices we have to acknowledge gas is high which is the opposite of low.”

I thought the cackling nincompoop’s* statements posted above about “taking things seriously” were a spectacular new subterranean low.

The embarrassing incoherent imbecile will end up being “Agnewed” at some point shortly after the mid terms – there is simply no way Geriatric Joe can last until 2024.

As for that fat mop headed moron in the UK, I’m actually he hoping he refuses to resign and some wild horses are pressed into service to drag him and Claretta kicking and screaming out of Number 10.

*H/T Rita P.

cohenite
July 7, 2022 8:11 pm

This might be a vote winner:

Rhode Island Leftist State Senator Tiara Mack twerks upside down in bikini ‘for votes’

Better then biden in an adult diaper.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 8:13 pm

The Road to Grimsby?
You’re just Trolling now.

Nope. Not always a dismal place in the past when fishing was less constrained, but certainly the pits after Covid and lockdowns.

The Conservatives have taken Great Grimsby from Labour for the first time since World War Two.

Labour was ousted after 74 years, with Conservative Lia Nici defeating Labour’s Melanie Onn by 7,331 votes.

In Scunthorpe, Conservative Holly Mumby-Croft beat Labour’s Nic Dakin by 6,451 votes.

Labour held its three seats in Hull while the Conservatives held a further five seats, all with increased majorities.

Ms Nici said “the country is changing” and it was “an exciting time for the UK”.

Boris let these people down. The Red Wall is falling. Lord knows what will replace these hopes.

Mater
July 7, 2022 8:17 pm

GP’s didn’t force enyone.

The GP’s knew that the vaccinesonly had provisional approval (previously only used for experimental cancer treatments). If they didn’t, they should be kept away from advising patients on anything.

They also knew that many people were having it under coercion. These are the very same people we trust to ensure live organ donations are not being undertaken under coercion.

They have burnt their ‘social licence’ as one of the most trusted professions.

I’ll hold all those involved accountable, including the medicos who enthusiastically collected their $ per shot they administered.

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2022 8:19 pm

“Like Abbott, Boris has squandered a major opportunity to have set Britain right.”

Yep.

Rabz
July 7, 2022 8:19 pm

Boris let these people down

Yes. Yes, he did. Repeatedly and unrepentantly.

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2022 8:21 pm

“Daisy Cousins is a nice enough young woman with her heart in the right place politically but she speaks most unnaturally, rather as though she is acting, and it is not good for TV. It might work better on youtube in a more casual setting and to a younger demographic. There are other women who would have been far better replacements in these opinion shows, even younger ones if Sky feels it needs to appeal to a youth demographic. The styles she enjoys won’t work well after about age thirty-five either.”

I think Alexandra Marshall is good. You’re right about her “speaking”….she’s too theatrical, it’s grating.

Zipster
July 7, 2022 8:24 pm

Vice President Kamala Harris said: “Gas prices are high due to gas prices not being low as before. To get back to lower prices we have to acknowledge gas is high which is the opposite of low.”

price equity now!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 8:26 pm

Has there been a fall in fertility in Australia? It’s still too early to say.

Given current house prices, inflation rates (for mortgages, fuel and food etc), energy cost explosions and looming job uncertainties I wouldn’t be surprised to see many families deciding to put off having a baby, or their second or third one. Especially with a Labor government ‘in charge’ and making things worse. So a declining fertility rate in Australia may express nothing more than a considered decision to not become pregnant rather than reflecting any female incapacity to become pregnant.

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2022 8:28 pm

“but certainly the pits after Covid and lockdowns.”

Lizzie, my brother lives in the south of England and he has said the same about the villages and towns near where he lives…..businesses crushed. Even pubs have closed.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2022 8:28 pm

Just back from picking up the new conveyance in Melbourne.
Gee, those Bavarian funsters sure know how to put on a performance.
Could barely see the vehicle at first for the laser lights and smoke machine show, with “2001 – A Space Oddysey” theme blaring.
The only thing stopping the massive helium balloons lifting the 2,100 kgs of Kraut engineering off the floor was the biggest velvet bow I have ever seen.
OK.
Pretty standard fare so far.
But then we get the dancing Oktoberfest beer wenches, the oompah band and the mechanics in lederhosen forming a guard of honour.
You’d think that would be it.
But no.
We then get the personalised video message from the Cherman Chancellor.
Almost embarrassing.

rickw
rickw
July 7, 2022 8:33 pm

Paul Milligan
@plmilligan1968
Canadian Comedian??This Is NOT Funny Though??After 2 Covid Jabs : Dead

One way or another, politicians manage to organise a butchers bill.

Rabz
July 7, 2022 8:33 pm

those Bavarian funsters sure know how to put on a performance

Thanks to this legendary outfit, they’ve had plenty of practice.

JC
JC
July 7, 2022 8:38 pm

The 10 year old rape victim/ abortion story appears to be bullshit.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1544426366837342208.html

Zipster
July 7, 2022 8:40 pm
rickw
rickw
July 7, 2022 8:42 pm

If we are talking about the vaccines, then they shouldn’t have gone along with mandates if they didn’t.

GP’s didn’t force enyone.

Target those who’s job is supply the information to them.

NO.

The fucking GP’s are culpable in this fucking mess. They understand better than anyone what “provisional approval” and “stage 3 trial” actually means.

If I’m a motor mechanic, do I start recommending a new oil to everyone just because some gonzo said it’s good?

No. Every profession is expected to do their own due diligence to a reasonable extent. The arsehole Doctors did none at a time when pretty much everyone on this forum was doing just that.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 7, 2022 8:43 pm

I’d rate the recent Colombian election, the upcoming Brazilian election & the pending, soon to be called elections in Pakistan as more important than anything going on in England at the moment.

m0nty
m0nty
July 7, 2022 8:44 pm

He was Turnbull’s hand-picked choice to destroy the Stupid Fucking Liberal Party

He did a very competent job at that.

rosie
rosie
July 7, 2022 8:45 pm

Maybe young women are just being responsible children of gaia because of the climate exigency.
Not my rapacious family though, we don’t give two hoots about how much carbon we emit.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2022 8:46 pm

“Like Abbott, Boris has squandered a major opportunity to have set Britain right.”

I think that’s a little harsh.
Politically, I think Abbott was trying to push a conservative agenda but was stymied by the “moderates”. He probably should have had pushed back harder.
Boris has just been taking the piss and actively undermining Brexit implementation and anything remotely conservative.
Personally, I can’t see Abbott flouting the rules that he imposed on others, then sending the troops out to unwittingly lie about it.
Abbott’s toenail clippings have more integrity than BloJo’s entire blobby form.

rickw
rickw
July 7, 2022 8:47 pm

but in fact most of it has been exported to places like India and the fucking chunks.

It’s absolute fucking treason, and it involved a lot of people.

rosie
rosie
July 7, 2022 8:47 pm

I didn’t know Suzuki Swifts were made in Germany. Congratulations Sancho.

Zipster
July 7, 2022 8:48 pm

A group of institutional investors in the Netherlands have joined forces to present the Netherlands plus parts of Belgium and Germany as a single city network named Tristate City. The project, backed by Dutch employers organisation VNO-NCW, says the region’s population of 30 million people creates a ‘sustainable urban power house’. The project’s supporters include property developers and pension funds as well as Utrecht’s economic board. Dutch cities, the organisation says, are too small to compete in what it calls the ‘battle of the cities’, in which mega cities compete for investment and talent. -ADVERTENTIE- By treating the Netherlands as an urbanised delta with 17 million inhabitants, the project’s supporters say that are creating a very strong player in this ‘battle of the titans.’

Read more at DutchNews.nl:

Frank
Frank
July 7, 2022 8:49 pm

The 10 year old rape victim/ abortion story appears to be bullshit.

Any thoughts on that one Monty?

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 7, 2022 8:51 pm

m0ntysays:
July 7, 2022 at 6:10 pm
I see Boris is for the chopping block. Good.

His replacement will no doubt be worse, but it’s healthy to get rid of a bloke for rank incompetence.

When are you heading back to Phat Pussy, to revive it, m0nty-fa?

Zipster
July 7, 2022 8:53 pm


Is Tristate City the Reason for Farm Expropriation?
In an interview with organizer and chairman Bart-Jan Oplaat of NVP, he expressed his concerns about the future of farmers. In this he also mentions Tristate City, a plan for a new kind of super city, in which the Netherlands, Brussels, Antwerp and the Ruhr area should together become the new capital of Europe.
Together, about 40 million people will have to live there, and there is no more room for the farmers there. This is only possible by letting the farmers give up their land for the fortress of these millions of extra inhabitants. Below is the map of Tristatcity with the expected number of inhabitants per region.

rickw
rickw
July 7, 2022 8:56 pm
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 7, 2022 8:56 pm

The German press isn’t very impressed with Alina Lipp.

It turns out that she is Russian educated in Crimea, Dad emigrated to Crimea, she ran a pro-Putin telegram channel “Happy in Crimea” from 2019 to November 2021.

She was invited to Donetsk in November 2021, shortly after meeting one Maria Zakharova, who is apparently OIC Russian social media propaganda. Since then she’s been blowing the Poot with a Telegram channel, “News from Russia”.

Zipster
July 7, 2022 8:56 pm

Georgia Guidestones, the monument with the inscription “maintain humanity under 500,000,000”, has been partially destroyed.

what’s supposed to happen to the other 7.5b?

rickw
rickw
July 7, 2022 9:02 pm

The best campaign advertisement ever?!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ervnq20TeqU

rosie
rosie
July 7, 2022 9:03 pm

Poor Monty is really a bit of a dill.
He thinks it fantastic to get an energy bill.
The bigger the better, living close to the sea
He is sure otherwise the sea will top he.
(Yes it’s vogon poetry day, again)

rickw
rickw
July 7, 2022 9:04 pm

Any thoughts on that one Monty?

Frank, you’ve just set off a 40 donut rampage!

Crossie
Crossie
July 7, 2022 9:08 pm

rosie says:
July 7, 2022 at 8:47 pm
I didn’t know Suzuki Swifts were made in Germany. Congratulations Sancho.

The Cherman auto marvel was probably manufactured in South Korea which is why the extravagant reveal to conceal that fact.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 7, 2022 9:18 pm

Thancho you’ve got to pay Rosie at 8:47, epic.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2022 9:29 pm

rosiesays:
July 7, 2022 at 8:47 pm
I didn’t know Suzuki Swifts were made in Germany. Congratulations Sancho.

How dare you!
This thing has more Bing-Bongs than you can poke a stick at.
Bing-Bongs that the Ching-Chongs haven’t even thought of yet.
And the best thing about the Bing-Bongs is that they don’t have to be Bing-Bongs.
You can replace the factory fitted Bing-Bong with a tone of your choice.
I am thinking about using a Conway Twitty tune for the reversing beeper.

The Beer Whisperer
The Beer Whisperer
July 7, 2022 9:30 pm

Is Tristate City the Reason for Farm Expropriation?

I dunno, but that particular gun is smoking severely.

Crossie
Crossie
July 7, 2022 9:34 pm

Boris has not resigned. He has not articulated that at all. He is simply campaigning for the next vote which he probably hopes will go his way.

So full of himself.

Crossie
Crossie
July 7, 2022 9:37 pm

Boris is not giving up the PM job, it is being taken from him.

Oh, he’s learned so much as a PM but forgot his voters.

calli
calli
July 7, 2022 9:39 pm
Crossie
Crossie
July 7, 2022 9:40 pm

It might be a pleasant change to again see a UK PM who knows how to comb his/her hair.

Crossie
Crossie
July 7, 2022 9:42 pm

calli says:
July 7, 2022 at 9:39 pm
Sancho’s new car.

Noice!

A Messerschmidt? Made from scrap of the plane?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 7, 2022 9:45 pm

It might be a pleasant change to again see a UK PM who knows how to comb his/her hair.

I did wonder what point Boris was trying to make!

calli
calli
July 7, 2022 9:46 pm

I think it looks cute. Unique even.

And think about the carbin reduction. Gaia will be pleased.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2022 9:48 pm

callisays:
July 7, 2022 at 9:39 pm
Sancho’s new car.

Noice!

Please.
I would never be seen in a Lurpak yellow car.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
July 7, 2022 9:49 pm
Franx
Franx
July 7, 2022 9:49 pm

The thing with partygate was that they lied – the partygate event revealed they knew lockdowns were a charade disguising the truth that covid was a medical tyranny.

Frank
Frank
July 7, 2022 9:50 pm

Donut Operator. A pretty savage-and yet heartwarming-4 minute video of a police dog vigorously apprehending a murder suspect with his teeth. The handler seems to be having a good day too. Would recommend.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 9:52 pm

Well, a Churchillian speech. One for Britain’s darkest hour?

Did you notice that he did not ever actually use the word ‘resign’?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2022 9:53 pm

I will not have people making fun of my looxury car!
I will not!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 9:55 pm

Crossie can see this too. Not many can apparently.

Crossie doesn’t like this. But think about it – how many men (and I mean men here) can produce such a speech, such a patriotic observation – that talent is evenly spread while opportunity isn’t? Boris still has it and the other imitations and poor representations who will follow probably don’t and won’t have it.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 9:56 pm

Boris isn’t gone yet. He may be forced out in a few months, but two months is a long time in a land that is going through hell.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 9:59 pm

I think he hit exactly the right note. I was very touched when he spoke of Britain’s natural beauty.

Not what your ordinary politico woud mention but strikes at the heart to all those who have lived through a British spring and now summer.

They may not see his like again. Bugger the hairstyle. This is a genuine patriot.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 7, 2022 10:02 pm

Radio check, over.

calli
calli
July 7, 2022 10:02 pm

There was always this one.

Not quite as Gaia friendly.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2022 10:04 pm

I am seriously impressed with the Bing-Bong tech in the Trabant-Swift though.
Used the adaptive cruise in heavy traffic on the M8.
Running at 100. Traffic bunches up and eventually comes to a dead stop. The Trabant-Swift slows and comes to a complete stop, all by itself (with my foot hovering over the brake pedal, it must be said). When the traffic starts to move off it goes again. Now, I am not going to drive like that (totally relying on the tech), but it is good to know that if you are distracted it will keep another eye on the traffic in front.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 10:06 pm

Boris has just been taking the piss and actively undermining Brexit implementation and anything remotely conservative.

Wrong. I said he had missed opportunities and I still think that. He has also been led by Carrie into very stupid activities. But he is the only person I can think of in political life who can rally the whole of Britain, as he did with Brexit. If he doesn’t put his hand up for the mooted ‘new leader’ (which it seems he is perfectly able to do) then I think it will be Britain’s loss.

calli
calli
July 7, 2022 10:07 pm

That adaptive cruise is annoying. The Beloved’s Prado has it. A bit clunky, as it senses a car ahead slowing down for a left freeway exit as it changes lanes…and slows down even though there’s now no car in the lane ahead.

Japanese infamy.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 10:10 pm

Coming to enjoy my new Cherman auto.
Glad I have it now as Chermany is in such a state that they make not make more like this.

Boris a ‘reluctant resigner’ says Sky. lol.
Of course he was. He hasn’t actually ‘resigned’, merely alluded to changes.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2022 10:11 pm

callisays:
July 7, 2022 at 10:02 pm
There was always this one.

Not quite as Gaia friendly.

Ha ha.
I saw an Isuzu M-UX today with personalised plates.
MAD MUX.

m0nty
m0nty
July 7, 2022 10:16 pm

That Twitter thread on the 10-year-old rape victim is full of whining about how unfair it is that the story exists, but nothing in the way of actual evidence that the story is false.

Stories like this happen in America. The real response from absolutists like db – and a few Republican office holders, by the way – is that the 10-year-old should carry the child to term, as that is what Republicans want. If she was to have an abortion organised for her, Republicans want her gaoled. That is the direct consequence of their policy.

The fact that an edge case like this exists is obviously sending you lot round the bend, but it was inevitable. That is where the line is now, that is where your side wants it to be. Embrace it. Understand it. Know who you are.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 7, 2022 10:19 pm

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2022 10:26 pm

Yes calli, that is one fault with adaptive cruise.
I had two examples of that.
Car turning left and was nearly off the road but the Trabant-Swift can ‘see’ the back corner of the car in it’s line of sight, so slows right down as if the car is stopped in the centre of the lane.
Same, same with a car turning right with a left diversion lane for through traffic. Even though I am moving left to go around, the car can ‘see’ a tiny portion of the car ahead in the line of sight.
But you can override it.
It just illustrates that it is a helper, not the driver.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 10:28 pm

Cassetteboy – Bye Bye Boris

Nup. If it was in America we’d be saying this stuff was from inside the Beltway.

Just media bullshit. (can’t remember the ladylike way of saying that – bulldust? oh I recall now, it’s bullplop). So that cassette is a load of bullplop.

Boris has been subject to a campaign of vilification on matters not particularly significant in the overall scheme of things. I think his net zero stuff is sheer lunacy, but the rest of them too have caught that particular virus. He’s the only one who can lead them all away from it – he’s already moved to increase nuclear energy in the UK.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 10:30 pm

Anyway, Hairy has a bottle of good wine going to waste while he’s watching Outsiders from this morning. He obviously needs help in drinking it, and I am up to that challenge.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 7, 2022 10:31 pm

OldOzziesays:
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No idea why – see if link to post on Jo Nova’s Blog works

https://joannenova.com.au/2022/07/thursday-open-thread-109/#comment-2565044

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 10:33 pm

the 10-year-old should carry the child to term

Nonsense. It’s double jeopardy. The mother’s life and health would be put at risk.

Human females are not designed to bear a child at ten years of age.
It’s a biological anomaly.

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2022 10:36 pm

Nigel Farage, half an hour ago on Fox News…..

“All I do know is that if I look across the western world, whether it’s America, Britain, Australia, where ever, when conservative parties stop being conservative, guess what, they lose elections.”

Farage is right.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2022 10:37 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
July 7, 2022 at 9:59 pm
I think he hit exactly the right note. I was very touched when he spoke of Britain’s natural beauty.

More cynical Boris “Land of Hope and Glory” tub-thumping bullshit designed to pull the wool over the eyes of the “dimwit chavs”.
Did he dress in his John Bull Union Jack waistcoat?
Remember his distraction squirrel of re-introducing imperial weights and measures when he was under the pump over the lockdown piss-ups?
Time this charlatan was thrown in the Thames.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 7, 2022 10:37 pm

Boris has been subject to a campaign of vilification on matters not particularly significant in the overall scheme of things.
It’s the “randy Tory” meme which is too close to the bone for the Conservatives- this time, a man pinching men’s bums during Pride day week month.
Nonetheless, i’d like to see a dissection of the flouncers who are resigning. Even fifty out of a majority margin of eighty is no reason for the jitters. How many are maidens in marginal seats, a la Tony’s bedwetters?

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2022 10:38 pm

“The real response from absolutists like db – and a few Republican office holders, by the way – is that the 10-year-old should carry the child to term, as that is what Republicans want. “

There’s something wrong with you.

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2022 10:39 pm

“Nonsense. It’s double jeopardy. The mother’s life and health would be put at risk.

Human females are not designed to bear a child at ten years of age.
It’s a biological anomaly”

Correct.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 7, 2022 10:50 pm

Fisherfolk have entered the fray in the Netherlands and now blockading some ports.

The pikemen have formed a hedgehog!

😛

Indolent
Indolent
July 7, 2022 10:52 pm

They are outright telling us they can and will confiscate your money under “international” law.

Caroline Connor
@Caroline_Connor
On the commonwealth bank terms and conditions

Indolent
Indolent
July 7, 2022 10:55 pm

A prime example of a government which hates its own people. Unfortunately, it’s not the only one.

Biden aims to shutter largest oil field in U.S. amid record-high gas prices

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 7, 2022 10:58 pm

dover0beachsays:
July 7, 2022 at 10:52 pm
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The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

I’m going to do an update on the weekend. Hopefully, that will sort out whatever is going on.

Dover, if you link through to the Jo Nova Link, you can see what I was trying to post

I dropped ……. , changed wrt to with respect to – could not see what was causing the problem

Turned off VPN just in case as well

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2022 11:05 pm

The Oz is reporting that Boris has resigned but offered to stay as caretaker (ie his greenie missus wants a few last jaunts in the RAF VIP jet).
But the back-bench want him to clear out his desk today.

MatrixTransform
MatrixTransform
July 7, 2022 11:06 pm

We see you

…and raise you

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2022 11:06 pm

I’m going to do an update on the weekend. Hopefully, that will sort out whatever is going on.

Ooooh.
Back up your files on Friday night, people.

Real Deal
Real Deal
July 7, 2022 11:07 pm

Did he dress in his John Bull Union Jack waistcoat?

I thought that belonged to Tim Brooke-Taylor.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 7, 2022 11:07 pm

Indolentsays:
July 7, 2022 at 10:58 pm
No reverse gear. Donbass defeat, as another Afghanistan debacle looms

Modern War Institute – TIME IS NOT ON KYIV’S SIDE: TRAINING, WEAPONS, AND ATTRITION IN UKRAINE

The battalion commander shrugged helplessly when we advised him that five days was a completely inadequate amount of time in which to train his soldiers. “This is all we have—they are needed on the front,” he replied with grim finality. A few days later, on a separate course that we were running for his medics, half of our class disappeared on the second day. “We have had casualties,” was the only explanation we received. Even in units that fall within the Ukrainian special operations command, most soldiers are sent to the front line with very little training. In one such unit, we estimated that just 20 percent had even fired a weapon before heading to combat.

On May 3, the Ukrainian parliament passed a law that allows territorial defense units—the country’s home guard—to be deployed to combat outside their home regions. These units are manned by local volunteers who typically have received very little preparation. We were soon swamped by requests for training courses. In the western Ukrainian city of Lviv, a town hall meeting to explain the new policy to local territorial defense volunteers was disrupted by wives alarmed at the prospect of their part-time soldier husbands deploying to the front.

Each anecdote by itself a data point, but together they tell a story that belies the relentless optimism that has pervaded Ukrainian representation of the war from the outset. After four months of grinding attrition, the Ukrainian army is facing a manpower shortage.

Every day in the current fighting, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said earlier this month, around sixty to one hundred Ukrainian soldiers are killed and another five hundred wounded in combat. A more recent New York Times article puts that figure much higher—at one hundred to two hundred deaths a day. To put that in context, during the 1968 Tet offensive in Vietnam, one of the bloodiest periods of the war, US deaths were roughly two hundred a week—and among a force almost twice the size of the Ukrainian army.

Aside from Zelenskyy’s admission, the Ukrainian government has been largely reticent about releasing casualty figures and Western governments have offered few of their own assessments, but grim reports from the front line indicate that Ukrainian casualties are high—and perhaps in the long term unsustainable. “My friend’s son is in a company with just thirty soldiers left,” down from the 120 personnel typically in a company, one senior Ukrainian officer told me.

Every day last week, while evacuating civilians from areas in the east under bombardment by the Russians, as we drove to the front we passed a succession of ambulances going the other way. As they passed, my interpreter read aloud the signs displayed on their front bumpers: “three times 300s” or “four times 200s,” using the Ukrainian military terms for wounded and dead. By the end of the week, the figures in their aggregate, for just one section of the front we observed, seemed staggeringly high.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 7, 2022 11:17 pm

WSJ – Red States Are Winning the Post-Pandemic Economy

Workers and employers moved away from the coasts to middle of country and Florida, sparking swifter recoveries there

The pandemic has changed the geography of the American economy.

By many measures, red states—those that lean Republican—have recovered faster economically than Democratic-leaning blue ones, with workers and employers moving from the coasts to the middle of the country and Florida.

Since February 2020, the month before the pandemic began, the share of all U.S. jobs located in red states has grown by more than half a percentage point, according to an analysis of Labor Department data by the Brookings Institution think tank. Red states have added 341,000 jobs over that time, while blue states were still short 1.3 million jobs as of May.

Several major companies have recently announced moves of their headquarters from blue to red states. Hedge-fund company Citadel said recently it would move its headquarters from Chicago to Miami, and Caterpillar Inc. plans to move from Illinois to Texas.

The pandemic has changed the geography of the American economy.

By many measures, red states—those that lean Republican—have recovered faster economically than Democratic-leaning blue ones, with workers and employers moving from the coasts to the middle of the country and Florida.

Since February 2020, the month before the pandemic began, the share of all U.S. jobs located in red states has grown by more than half a percentage point, according to an analysis of Labor Department data by the Brookings Institution think tank. Red states have added 341,000 jobs over that time, while blue states were still short 1.3 million jobs as of May.

Several major companies have recently announced moves of their headquarters from blue to red states. Hedge-fund company Citadel said recently it would move its headquarters from Chicago to Miami, and Caterpillar Inc. plans to move from Illinois to Texas.

Behind those differences is mass migration. Forty-six million people moved to a different ZIP Code in the year through February 2022, the most in any 12-month period in records going back to 2010, according to a Moody’s analysis of Equifax Inc. consumer-credit reports. The states that gained the most, led by Florida, Texas and North Carolina, are almost all red, as defined by the Cook Political Report based on how states voted in the past two presidential elections. The states that lost the most residents are almost all blue, led by California, New York and Illinois.

Analysts who have studied the migration attributed much of it to the pandemic’s severing of the link between geography and the workplace. Remote work allowed many workers to move to red states, not because of political preferences, but for financial and lifestyle reasons—cheaper housing, better weather, less traffic and lower taxes, the analysts said.

There is no data on what role, if any, political preferences have played in migration decisions. Some researchers have reported that pandemic restrictions played a role for some people who moved. It is too early to know whether the Supreme Court decision on abortion also might affect migration patterns.

The movement is already starting to affect state economies and finances. Florida is on track to register a record budget surplus for the fiscal year that ended June 30, which it attributes in part to new residents.

The state is putting most of the extra money into a reserve fund to protect state agencies and residents during the next downturn, while investing in school construction and raising teacher pay, a spokeswoman for Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said.

The states that gained the most migrants levied an average maximum income-tax rate of 3.8% on individuals. Four—Florida, Texas, Tennessee and Nevada—charged no income tax at all. The 10 states that lost the most residents to moves have an average tax rate of 8.0%.

In general, red states were less likely than blue ones to impose mask or vaccine mandates, social-distancing restrictions or remote schooling. Enrollment in public elementary and secondary schools fell nationally during the pandemic, but the sharpest drops occurred in school districts that had more days of remote learning, according to a recent American Enterprise Institute study.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 11:19 pm

Time this charlatan was thrown in the Thames.

Nope. He stood against the tide for Brexit. And look at the hopeless cases now all jostling to put up their hand to replace him. I hope he is not done yet.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 11:22 pm

ie his greenie missus wants a few last jaunts in the RAF VIP jet

She is a pain in the butt but a second order issue.

He needs to lead again and be voted in again to do so.
He is still the Prime Minister with the Queen’s imprimateur.
I do not think we have yet seen the last of Boris.

Rudd – Gillard – Rudd – remmber that? Someone else may take over but with Boris in the wings.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 7, 2022 11:23 pm

The Morning Briefing: Clueless Democrats Are in Full ‘Let Them Eat Cake’ Mode Now

Top O’ the Briefing

Happy Thursday, dear Kruiser Morning Briefing friends. Ragnar often found himself in situations that couldn’t be saved even by Riverdance or his preternatural gift for soufflé.

While we’re not quite in the home stretch for the November midterm elections, the end of the Democrats’ COVID-induced reign of error is in sight. At present, all signs point to the Republicans giving them an electoral shellacking but, hey, we’re never really outside the margin of magical mail-in ballots, are we?

While I have often cautioned about Republicans being overly optimistic about November, I am gradually moving toward the position that all the GOP has to do is get out of the way and let the Democrats defeat themselves.

Starting at the very top, this current crop of D.C. Dems is the largest collection of dullards they’ve ever had in power. They’re a bunch of pants-wetting demagogues who are completely devoid of any intellectual heft. Because of that, they’re dumb enough to believe the lies that their flying monkeys in the mainstream media continually tell for them.

The biggest lie is that the Democrat positions on major issues are wildly popular. It turns out that the issues that they’re most concerned with aren’t even that major to most Americans.

While Democrats are doubling down on climate cult madness and mainstreaming the transgender fringe, normal Americans are still overwhelming concerned with inflation, as Victoria wrote yesterday:

Joe Biden is conducting his presidency as if the Ukraine war, Liberal Order Reset, windmills, solar panels, packing the Supreme Court, and abortions for nine months were top priorities of the American people. But guess what? They’re not. Few Americans are buying what he’s selling.

A Harvard Harris poll reveals that the Left’s most ardently revered issues aren’t top-of-mind for normal Americans. Indeed, the number one issue for Americans is Joe Biden’s inflation, followed by Joe Biden’s pre-planned high gas prices.

Not only have Team Biden and the rest of the Democrats continued to overlook the very real burden that inflation is on American citizens, they’ve spent most of the last year dispensing nonsensical macroeconomic lectures that were probably ghost-written by Paul Krugman to convince us that it wasn’t even real. It’s been a level of elitist detachment that’s egregious even for insulated D.C. types.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 11:24 pm

Did he dress in his John Bull Union Jack waistcoat?

Sancho, never ever underestimate the power of traditional symbolism in Britain.

Mock all you like, Boris knows this score well, by heart.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 11:26 pm

NB well – he has managed to neuter the 1922 Committee.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 7, 2022 11:36 pm

I am thinking about using a Conway Twitty tune for the reversing beeper.

A reversing beeper. Usually only found in bread vans and mining trucks.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 11:37 pm

lol. The upticks slow in coming to my point of view on Boris tonight.
And do you know what?

I don’t give a flying fuck.

He. has. not. resigned.

E11R reigns.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2022 11:38 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:

July 7, 2022 at 11:26 pm

NB well – he has managed to neuter the 1922 Committee.

Not relevant.
The anger is such that, if he clings on for one more piss-up in the number 10 back garden, it won’t be a party room matter.
A no confidence motion will be put in the House of Commons and he will lose spectacularly.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 11:39 pm

The few upticks I get are not from me, btw.

I am really interested in testing the Constitutional acuity of youse Cats.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 11:42 pm

The anger is such that

Real enough, and a mistake he made re partygate, but not the main game.

Mostly Beltway anger in the 22 Committee, Sancho.

He may be voted down in a few months but he is not out.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2022 11:44 pm

E11R reigns.

She has reigned over 14 Prime Ministers.
And it will be 15 before Summer Bank Holiday.
Dead man walking.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 11:45 pm

oops. The 2022 Committe, not 19. JC may have a case when I myself use the wrong century!!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2022 11:46 pm

An uptick!
An uptick!
My kingdom for an uptick!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 11:47 pm

She has reigned over 14 Prime Ministers.
And it will be 15 before Summer Bank Holiday.

I will wait and see.
And then some, even if one of the drab droobs gets the Royal nod.

Boris is not a blubber, nor is he a piker. This will simply fire him up.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2022 11:48 pm

A reversing beeper. Usually only found in bread vans and mining trucks.

That thing that becomes increasingly shrill and frantic as you get closer to backing over something.
That’s why I want it to be a C&W song.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 11:50 pm

Good Lord, Sancho, down boy, down.

I just gave you an uptick.

It’s a rolled up newspaper on your nose if you jump up like that again.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2022 11:51 pm

It is actually the 1922 committee.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 7, 2022 11:52 pm

Johnson has resigned, according to Skah.

It would appear to be a question of whether they let him be a caretaker until they choose a new one.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 11:53 pm

That thing that becomes increasingly shrill and frantic as you get closer to backing over something.

I had to park the Sporty Beamer in a vuuurrrry tight spot this morning.

It was sounding off like Stravinsky for a full five minutes.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2022 11:55 pm

It would appear to be a question of whether they let him be a caretaker until they choose a new one.

They are hoist on a Constitutional petard.

He has their nuts in his vice. Very pleasing.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2022 11:56 pm

I had to park the Sporty Beamer in a vuuurrrry tight spot this morning.

Why not use the auto-park feature?

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