Open Thread – Wed 13 July 2022


Sacred Allegory, Giovanni Bellini, c. 1490–1500

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Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
July 13, 2022 12:02 am

Podium!

Yee hah!

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
July 13, 2022 12:17 am

Hi!

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 13, 2022 12:22 am

When it comes to the Russia v Ukraine shit, I’m done debating the ins and outs of the war and its antecedents. We’re going to see a decisive outcome soon enough. Then it will be a question of the extent to which whomever finds themselves on the wrong side of reality is willing to accept they’ve been sold a pup.

This is my own take, so take it for what it’s worth – anything British is suspect. You’re going to British tabloids for your hot takes? That’s not going to serve you well. You’re going to British broadsheets for your hot takes? Even worse. You’re going to the MoD for your hot takes? Well, you’re just fucked.

pete of perth
pete of perth
July 13, 2022 12:38 am

First JWT images at https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive

pete of perth
pete of perth
July 13, 2022 12:40 am

chick mullet alert

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 13, 2022 12:49 am

Reposting as it was at end of previous thread. After first posting the below found an online 2020 IBAC report into the statement taking issues in the case. Very detailed and hard to see how could convict based on what happened. Sheridan was the senior Detective in the below case as he was in Pell case.

The below article is from Herald Sun. Note the Commissioner Shane Patton praising the work of the Lorimer task force, despite serious criticism from the Judge and the freeing of the accused due to police malpractice (twice). Google Lorimer Task Force and one of the top links relates to the Commission of Inquiry into Lawyer X. A brief description says :

“The Lorimer Taskforce was established by Victoria Police in 1998 to investigate the murders of Sergeant Gary Silk and Senior Constable Rod Miller. Investigators connected to the Lorimer Taskforce that are relevant to this inquiry included Mr Paul Sheridan, Officer Black (a pseudonym) and Mr Paul Dale”.

One of those three names very familar to me from another major failed investigation. Superintendent Sheridan was the senior officer in the room during the interview of Cardinal Pell in Rome. Some may also recall Shane Patton was in Rome with the two interviewing officers but was not in the room during questioning. Both feature in the lawyer X commission and Patton was Simon Overlands Chief of Staff when he resigned. It was Patton who gave the press conference saying there were multiple “victims” of Pell and there would be multiple charges. This turned out not to be the case and we all remember 7-0.

Article as follows :
Victoria Police sitting on secret internal probe into misconduct relating to investigation of Silk Miller murders.
Victoria Police was summoned to court to explain why it was withholding documents about an internal probe into the Silk-Miller murder investigation.

Victoria Police has been secretly running an internal probe into misconduct relating to the Lorimer taskforce investigation of the Silk-­Miller murders. The internal inquiry was launched in May last year and has produced a 15-page draft report with hundreds of pages of supporting material.

It is understood that an independent review panel has been overseeing the investigation, which could lead to disciplinary hearings. But the plan was not to finalise any report until after Jason Roberts’s ­retrial had ended. The review was prompted by the findings of Victoria’s anti-corruption watchdog, the IBAC, which scrutinised the taskforce’s “wrong” statement-making practices during the Silk-Miller murder investigation. The Herald Sun revealed these in 2017.

In an extraordinary Supreme Court hearing on May 9 this year, seven weeks into the retrial of Roberts, Victoria Police was summoned to the court to explain why it had failed to disclose to the prosecution and defence the draft report. By then 13 relevant witnesses had already given evidence at the retrial.
Ironically, the internal police investigation was dubbed “failure to disclose at the first trial’’.

Roberts’ original trial in 2002, at which he was found guilty of the 1998 murders of Sergeant Gary Silk and Senior Constable Rodney Miller, was corrupted by police adding, backdating, shredding and ­replacing statements relating to the “dying declaration” of­ ­officer Miller minutes after he was shot on August 16. This “improper” practice led to Roberts’s convictions being quashed and his acquittal after a 3½-month retrial. Roberts walked free from the Supreme Court on Monday.

But seven weeks into his second trial, presiding judge Stephen Kaye was incensed after Victoria Police repeated history by admitting it was withholding documents about its internal probe. “The first trial was found to involve a substantial miscarriage of justice because Victoria Police had failed in the most fundamental obligation to reveal to the prosecution and defence key issues relating to a very significant area of evidence in the case – and they have done it again,” Justice Kaye said. “Yes, I find it quite extraordinary.”

Barrister Andrew Sim, ­appearing for Chief Commissioner Shane Patton, told the court the prosecution and ­defence could not have immediate access to the report as the force was making “public interest immunity” claims. Justice Kaye wanted Mr Patton reminded about what was at stake. “Does the Chief Commissioner understand the significance of the trial that is being heard?” he inquired.

“It involves the death of two decent, proper policemen 24 years ago.”He later added: “I find it breathtaking that Victoria Police should have been engaged in such an extraordinary failure in the system of justice, having already failed the system of justice in this case.”

Mr Sim could only respond: “There’s little I can say in response to that criticism.’’
Adding to Justice Kaye’s anger was the fact Victoria Police had not bothered to turn up to the hearing.
“My anger is a result of the fact there’s already been one substantial miscarriage of justice,” Justice Kaye said. “The case involves an ­appalling tragedy, one which has had to be revisited, ­because of the misconduct of the police at the last trial, and that this is going on again.’’

Justice Kaye also noted that no one from Victoria Police had the “intestinal fortitude” to come to court and explain themselves. He then told Mr Sim his “ire” was not directed at him. “It is very much directed to those who you represent, who, although being invited to court today, have not seen fit to come,” Justice Kaye said. Mr Sim said it was not an intended “insult”.
“It’s not a matter of insult, it’s a matter of inference, Mr Sim,” Justice Kaye said.

He then suggested yet ­another investigation was ­merited “till the police learn their lesson”. The court was adjourned for further discussion three days later, during which it is understood some documents were handed over to the prosecution and defence.

During an emotional press conference on Monday, Chief Commissioner Patton did not hide his “disappointment” at the jury’s verdict hours ­earlier.

Mr Patton also praised the work of the Lorimer taskforce that investigated the Silk-Miller murders. “I take my hat off to the Lorimer taskforce,” he said. Asked whether he had any praise for the work of former homicide detective Ron ­Iddles – who while still a serving officer in 2013 conducted a thorough review of Roberts’s conviction and cast doubt on it – Chief Commissioner Patton said: “No, I won’t say anything in regards to that.”

My repeat, above says “wrong statements practices”. How many statements did the Pell accuser give ?

Winston Smith
July 13, 2022 2:03 am

https://mailchi.mp/50e00644a5cc/continue-net-zero-and-preside-over-the-worst-energy-crisis-in-british-history-tory-candidates-warned-189919?e=47ee5c4c98

To assess how serious each candidate in the Conservative leadership contest regards the ‘cataclysmic’ energy cost crisis Britain is facing, Net Zero Watch is sending a list of key questions to all candidates to find out where they stand on each of these pressing cost issues.

Winston Smith
July 13, 2022 2:23 am

https://nationalshooting.org.au/nsc-beats-top-cops-prediction-in-another-legal-win/

THE NSC HAS WON ANOTHER LEGAL FIGHT, this time helping a 77 year old pistol shooter who was targetted by the NSW Police registry over allegations made by a Norco store employee in 2021.

It is an outcome that left egg on the face of one of NSWPol’s top cops who rang the NSC to say the shooter would not be getting his licence back.

Tom
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July 13, 2022 4:00 am
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bespoke
bespoke
July 13, 2022 4:30 am

1st

bespoke
bespoke
July 13, 2022 4:31 am

Morning inmates.
IT240

will
will
July 13, 2022 4:38 am
will
will
July 13, 2022 4:47 am
Ed Case
Ed Case
July 13, 2022 5:59 am

Looks suspiciously like at least one of the trigger pullers was VicPol, else why the frantic coverup extending from the top down for 20+ years?

rosie
rosie
July 13, 2022 6:52 am

Dover posted that last night but don’t want Monty to miss out.
Six weeks and three days to report a rape.
How convenient for RoevWaders.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
July 13, 2022 6:56 am

bespoke says:
July 13, 2022 at 4:31 am

Morning inmates.
IT240

Good Morning
D4 Swampy

Judge Dredd
Judge Dredd
July 13, 2022 7:13 am

50+ reasons not to take the vax (or if you have, not to take the booster).

Never forgive and never forget.

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/the-safe-and-effective-narrative

132andBush
132andBush
July 13, 2022 7:20 am

rosie says:
July 13, 2022 at 6:37 am

Where is Monty?

Yep.
He owes the blog an apology for slander.

Useless, gullible parasite.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 13, 2022 7:32 am

Useless, gullible parasite.

Well it’s not a ‘you-lot’ bot, because JC had lunch with it once.

That makes it even worse. Stridently, vehemently wrong on absolutely everything. It is simultaneously amazing and unsurprising that mUnter (apparently) makes money from imagination.

In simpler, better times he’d have been expelled into the scrub to starve, and/or succumb to tick-borne disease.

Cassie of Sydney
July 13, 2022 7:37 am

“He owes the blog an apology for slander.

Useless, gullible parasite.”

Don’t you know? Being on the left means you never ever have to say sorry or apologise. I’m still waiting for him to retract and apologise for calling Cardinal Pell a “rock spider”.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 13, 2022 7:52 am

Pretty sure JC entertained the munster twice. Imagine having to sit opposite the fat freak chow down. I did offer to buy JC gas guzzling BMW but he never mentioned it again. Whether he didn’t like the offer as when I increased my offer it included lunch with munty. I reckon it would be worse than being stuck in a cupboard with Sarah Sea Patrol.

duncanm
duncanm
July 13, 2022 7:55 am

A good summary of Prince Charlie and #thegreatreset in the speccie’s flat white this morning.
https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/07/prince-charles-great-reset

Its a conspiracy until it’s not.

calli
calli
July 13, 2022 7:57 am

We all knew it was a silly, predictable confection to suit the hour. Rape and childhood – what could be more compelling?

The justifications for mass murder have never been more flimsy.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 13, 2022 8:07 am

Dilbert 2 is sad because people did it so proudly.

rosie
rosie
July 13, 2022 8:07 am

Speccy article very interesting except of course Australia opted to replace Morrison with an even bigger climate monster.
And very true, Mother Nature is no Our Lady.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 13, 2022 8:08 am

We all knew it was a silly, predictable confection to suit the hour. Rape and childhood – what could be more compelling?

Strangely this real story of rape and childhood wasn’t at all compelling. I saw it in Breitbart London last month when it came out, but it did not get the airplay that the fake story has. I wonder why?

(I’m not giving the headline nor an excerpt, it’s too horrible.)

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 13, 2022 8:13 am

Is it April fools ?
BMW car seating is going to be a subscription service.
WTF.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 13, 2022 8:17 am

I wonder will m0nty-fa apologise for his hysterical (in both meanings of the word) reaction to the “Ohio 10 year old needs an abortion” case, now that it has been thoroughly debunked? Silly question! Of course not.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 13, 2022 8:17 am

Dover, please try not to post any pictures of St Sebastian so close to Pride Month. I know it’s only an allegory, but surely Abraham would say “behave yourself lad, there’s children here”?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 13, 2022 8:22 am

feelthebernsays:

July 13, 2022 at 8:13 am

Is it April fools ?
BMW car seating is going to be a subscription service.
WTF.

The distraction of the oompah band and dancing Oktoberfest beer wrenches whilst I was signing the papers is starting to make sense now.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 13, 2022 8:23 am

No matter how heinous the crime they have been convicted of, every single conviction related to Gobbo info needs to be set aside & crim released.
Vic Pol can start again if they want to.
If after 12 months VicPol doesn’t, then it’s compo time.
And these payouts need to lottery big.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 13, 2022 8:23 am

He’s stark staring mad.

Marles calls for nuclear submarines to be made in Australia (13 Jul)

Defence Minister Richard Marles is calling for the new nuclear submarines part of the AUKUS deal to be built in Australia.

Mr Marles said it is important Australia increases its domestic defence manufacturing capabilities.

“I think inevitably we end up building nuclear submarines in Australia,” he told Sky News Australia.

The Australian government can’t build a row boat locally without it being more expensive than Di Caprio’s yacht, let alone a nuclear sub. It’d also be a race between the end of the Universe and the delivery of the first one.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 13, 2022 8:26 am

Every cop, every DPP (or whatever they call it in Vic) who knew about it needs to be sacked.
Any solicitor or barrister who knew needs to be turfed from the industry.
And if any judges knew then need to go too & lose the lucrative pension entitlements.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 13, 2022 8:31 am

Chuck is as bright as his old man. Not very. QEII is not there for her intelligence and keeps her mouth shut. The male line throughout Europe has never been a strong point and since they are all related the gene pool is pretty shallow. I remember when young seeing people going crazy over the Queens visit. Couldn’t and still can’t see why. I am a Republican at heart but nothing I’ve remotely seen here would want a change. No doubt after Lizzie kicks the bucket I will. NB, not our Lizzie. Anne on the other hand has more than a modicum of sense.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 13, 2022 8:31 am

What VicPol did to Pell was a disgrace.
What VicPol did with Gobbo was exponentially worse.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
July 13, 2022 8:36 am

Jab jab booster…………..a bit of information about who is being killed.

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/update-regarding-omicron-ba5?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 13, 2022 8:39 am

Haha, I think an Express picture editor is going to be in trouble…

Cropped photo

It’s the graphic used on the main page with the headline for this otherwise boilerplate story:

Divided Brexiteers may need a 2016 Remainer to carry their banner in Tory leader final 2 (12 Jul)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 13, 2022 8:42 am

The High Court agrees ‘bern.

Gobbo’s actions in purporting to act as counsel for the Convicted Persons while covertly informing against them were fundamental and appalling breaches of ‘s obligations as counsel to her clients and of Gobbo’s duties to the court. Likewise, Victoria Police were guilty of reprehensible conduct in knowingly encouraging Gobbo to do as she did and were involved in sanctioning atrocious breaches of the sworn duty of every police officer to discharge all duties imposed on them faithfully and according to law without favour or affection, malice or ill-will. As a result, the prosecution of each Convicted Person was corrupted in a manner which debased fundamental premises of the criminal justice system.

Very few over-turned convictions and no charges of perverting the course of justice laid.
And they went to great lengths to try to prevent Gobbo testifying.

In 2020, whilst the Royal Commission was still in progress, Victoria Police offered to arrange and pay for her to move to a country without an extradition treaty with Australia so that she would not be able to be investigated or prosecuted for her actions in the Lawyer X matter.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
July 13, 2022 8:42 am

Last year, TrialSite reported that Iceland, a nation with a near-universally vaccinated population against COVID-19, experienced a dangerous Delta variant-driven surge featuring extensive breakthrough infections and hospitalization. This was similar to numerous other nations and territories. The Nordic country experienced a far worse surge due to the Omicron variant from January 2022 through March 2022 with record new daily infections and hospitalization. By May of 2022, the scientific community started to come to terms that the new Omicron subvariants were “masters of immune evasion” leading to intensified surges around the world. As shared by Reuters, in Iceland, the average number of new infections reported has grown consistently for 12 straight days. Reuters reports that enough COVID-19 vaccines have been administered to inoculate 120% of the population totaling 366,425. Our World in Data points to about 80% of the population vaccinated with numbers reaching over 95% in the elderly cohorts. Yet hospitalization is on the rise again, becoming a disturbing trend evidencing that a combination of vaccines with waning effectiveness combined with a constantly mutating pathogen leads to the ongoing risk that the pandemic can turn for the worse again

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 13, 2022 8:43 am

feelthebern says:
July 13, 2022 at 8:26 am
Every cop, every DPP (or whatever they call it in Vic) who knew about it needs to be sacked.

Kerri Judd QC Head VIC DPP
Still in a job after the HC said she and her team tried to argue a modified case before them.
The Victorian justice system is a team sport.

Indolent
Indolent
July 13, 2022 8:44 am

If someone is interested in viewing the actual plan for world domination right there on the WEF website (under the heading of Covid 19), you can just follow this map.

Punky 3:33
@BeastModeViking

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
July 13, 2022 8:48 am

i am just a kitten and not tony robbins or anything, but doesn’t it seem like probably that given the way they have now trained people to bark like seals for paxlovid and then get rebounds and then do it again, maybe it’s time we renamed it?

i mean, talk about “market conditioning”…

MEME

https://substack.com/redirect/e46f3509-ed27-4667-be0a-66f9200ec5d1?u=29685295

Rafiki
Rafiki
July 13, 2022 8:52 am

Farmer George
What, in itself, is wrong with counsel “modifying a case” in the course of an appeal? Appeal judges often try to get a barrister to do so.

Rafiki
Rafiki
July 13, 2022 8:54 am

Sorry, Farmer Gez

Vicki
July 13, 2022 8:54 am

relative excess deaths in the most “vaccine hesitant” minorities in UK
digging into more predicative data on overall survival rates.

Indolent – it has been observed by some commentators (can’t recall if it is Kirsch or Malone or another) that the figures for excess deaths amongst the unvaccinated in one of the charts (UK, as I recall) was curious, because it did not correlate with admissions of the unvaccinated to ICUs. Did they die at home?????

calli
calli
July 13, 2022 8:58 am

Funny that bushfire map left out the massive and widespread fires in the Gippsland area. I guess it didn’t suit the connection.

Short memories suit conspiracies.

will
will
July 13, 2022 8:59 am

Yep.
He owes the blog an apology for slander.
Useless, gullible parasite.

I think you are being too hard on Monty. A person can’t help it if they are not too bright. He does run a business, create employment and wealth, even though he doesn’t realise how important this is and if his ignorance was allowed to play out, it would only result in cheerful squalor. Except it is playing out.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 13, 2022 9:00 am

Rafiki says:
July 13, 2022 at 8:52 am
Farmer George
What, in itself, is wrong with counsel “modifying a case” in the course of an appeal? Appeal judges often try to get a barrister to do so.

The HC is not rerunning a trial.
It’s looking at whether the evidence was properly presented and the verdict was correct in light of the presented evidence.
They found this was not the case.

Nelson Kidd-Players
July 13, 2022 9:01 am

Wasn’t expecting Arma to turn up in a cartoon…

calli
calli
July 13, 2022 9:04 am

And what a difference two and a half years makes!

This morning, standing alongside the Pox Princess, a Seven reporter was opining that the Covid infections on board were “a storm in a teacup”.

It’s over CHOs. The oracles of the media have spoken.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 13, 2022 9:05 am

The VIC DPP didn’t produce new evidence but sought to change details of the prosecution case before the HC to find the missing minutes on which their entire case was based.
It’s bordering on pathetic.

Vicki
July 13, 2022 9:05 am

given the way they have now trained people to bark like seals for paxlovid

Not my husband. New young GP wanted to prescribe it when, in a phone consultation for another matter, he mentioned he had Covid.

Husband then described the self-prescribed treatment of vitamins, supplements and steroid inhaler he was using……………..he recovered in 5 days & on the 6th tested negative.

That was months ago, and he certainly has not had the “rebound Covid” that it appears Paxlovid is inducing. The FLCCC doctors reckon, if you remain unvaccinated, immunity after recovering from Covid should last for a good 9 months, although this is controversial.

I am a little envious of husband’s status – as I didn’t catch it from him.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 13, 2022 9:09 am

GreyRanga

Anne on the other hand has more than a modicum of sense.

Putting aside the young princes, who are too young to assess now, Anne is the only apparently sane one in the whole mob.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 13, 2022 9:09 am

In breaking news, Bunnings sausages are about to increase in price from $2.50 to $3.50 – the first price increase in 15 years.

Woolfe
Woolfe
July 13, 2022 9:09 am

Why don’t just subcontract our defence to China?

Vicki
July 13, 2022 9:09 am

This morning, standing alongside the Pox Princess, a Seven reporter was opining that the Covid infections on board were “a storm in a teacup”.

It’s interesting that, apparently, only 4 travellers are currently infected – but 100 crew have Covid. Of course, it won’t deter the cruise fanatics – they will still queue up for the buffet lunches, cabarets, and deck games…..

Zipster
Zipster
July 13, 2022 9:11 am
Top Ender
Top Ender
July 13, 2022 9:13 am

What VicPol did to Pell was a disgrace.

Which is why Pell should have sued the Victorian government. People who run gotcha schemes and vindictive spiteful prosecutions of societal groups they just don’t like should be punished. It’s a deterrent to others.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 13, 2022 9:14 am

In breaking news, Bunnings sausages are about to increase in price from $2.50 to $3.50 – the first price increase in 15 years.

I hope Chairman Xi and the Bunnings MD are holding a joint press conference to apologise. Or are they blaming it on Putin?

calli
calli
July 13, 2022 9:15 am

The crew live in closely confined, inside cabins. I would expect the viral loads there to be high compared to passengers in balcony staterooms.

They are also expected to wear masks during shifts, adding to the danger (to themselves).

The disproportionate number of infected crew doesn’t surprise me one iota.

rosie
rosie
July 13, 2022 9:20 am

Cardinal Pell was penniless when he was released.
After his many years ordeal I don’t blame him one iota for wishing to have nothing to do with the ‘Law’.
I remember journalists who followed him on his drive to Sydney after he was released mocking him for wearing gardening clothes.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 13, 2022 9:20 am

Farmer Gezsays:
July 13, 2022 at 9:05 am
The VIC DPP didn’t produce new evidence but sought to change details of the prosecution case before the HC to find the missing minutes on which their entire case was based.
It’s bordering on pathetic.

Waddya mean “bordering”? It is pathetic.

Vicki
July 13, 2022 9:23 am

By May of 2022, the scientific community started to come to terms that the new Omicron subvariants were “masters of immune evasion” leading to intensified surges around the world.

This is precisely what Geert VanDen Bossche predicted would happen as the virus evolved under the pressure of universal vaccination. It is a complex immunological argument, and I struggle to follow the detailed pathology. But it seems that the pathogen, when circulating in the community, will lose its virulence and the so called “herd immunity” will develop. Repeated courses of a vaccine which is unable to destroy the virus will only promote deadlier variants.

Those who protest that smallpox and other viruses were successfully controlled by vaccines do not appreciate that these viruses are of a different genus.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 13, 2022 9:23 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
July 13, 2022 9:23 am

What’s wrong with gardening clothes? My wardrobe could be described as gardening chic.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
July 13, 2022 9:23 am

I remember journalists who followed him on his drive to Sydney after he was released mocking him for wearing gardening clothes.

The media is the enemy of the people : viscerally spiteful, malicious, ignorant and deadly.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 13, 2022 9:27 am

I remember journalists who followed him on his drive to Sydney after he was released mocking him for wearing gardening clothes.

One of those chase heroes got upset when anti lockdown protesters threw a bag of piss on him.
Perfume to a journo of his quality.

Cassie of Sydney
July 13, 2022 9:28 am

“Cardinal Pell was penniless when he was released.
After his many years ordeal I don’t blame him one iota for wishing to have nothing to do with the ‘Law’.
I remember journalists who followed him on his drive to Sydney after he was released mocking him for wearing gardening clothes.”

Yep, I don’t blame him, at his age, for not pursuing further legal action plus he probably, and rightly, doesn’t trust the law. I wouldn’t. And the MSM have infinite resources when it comes to legal cases.
Just look at how the MSM pulled out everything in the Craig McLachlan’s defamation case. McLachlan gave up.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 13, 2022 9:28 am

Farmer Gezsays:

July 13, 2022 at 8:43 am

feelthebern says:
July 13, 2022 at 8:26 am
Every cop, every DPP (or whatever they call it in Vic) who knew about it needs to be sacked.

Kerri Judd QC Head VIC DPP
Still in a job after the HC said she and her team tried to argue a modified case before them.

Possibly the most embarrassing appearance before the High Court since Denis Denuto.
Rafiki.
She wasn’t merely changing emphasis on a minor point here and there.
Pell’s lawyers took the sworn evidence advanced in a committal, two trials and a Supreme Court appeal as to the timing of events to demonstrate that the crime simply could not have been committed.
Faced with this, Mizz Judd tried to amend the timelines already admitted in evidence to make the crime “possible”.
That was her exact term – “possible”.
Not proven “beyond reasonable doubt”, but “possible”.
So she is arguing that the HC should just throw evidence in the bin and go with the “vibe”. Stretch the established timeline a bit and … oh, fuck I am still short of even a civil standard of proof.
The High Court was scathing in their findings about her attempted maneuverings.
In their acquittal of Pell they simply said “it was not open to the jury to reach a guilty verdict on the evidence”.
“Not open” doesn’t mean they got it a little bit wrong. It means they accepted that the offending was impossible.
Something which Mizz Judd wasn’t awake to until she found herself flailing around before the full bench looking for a lifeline.

Roger
Roger
July 13, 2022 9:28 am

Cardinal Pell was penniless when he was released. After his many years ordeal I don’t blame him one iota for wishing to have nothing to do with the ‘Law’.

I would have like to have seen him pursue it for the public good, but I can understand that he didn’t want to spend his last days mired in a court case. It takes a lot out of people even in the prime of life.

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 13, 2022 9:28 am

I suspect FOIA of my ASIO file would show it to be short:

Works in uranium666.
Dastardly righty.
Likes birds.

See you all in the gulag.

Just went through renewal of my ASIC (Aviation Security identification Card) ($280 to a bunch of ticket clippers), as if whoever does the background checks can’t press Enter and find out who I am.

calli
calli
July 13, 2022 9:29 am

My wardrobe could be described as gardening chic.

Ditto. With genuine tears in the trousers too. Not those fake designer ones.

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 13, 2022 9:30 am

Marles wants nuke subs built in Australia. All is going to the plans of his Chicom handlers then. We aren’t getting nuke subs. That’s the plan.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 13, 2022 9:30 am

In the alternative universe that is the ACT government, there’s this:

The ACT Government says it’s confident it can find a construction company to build Strathnairn School with a 100 per cent female management team and women employed by every trade subcontractor.

Minister for Education and Minister for Women Yvette Berry said the tender process for the $62.4 million project would be fair and competitive, despite the gender quota imposed on it.

Which will just put the price up for the taxpayer, as companies diversity hire females who can’t do the job.

RiotACT

rosie
rosie
July 13, 2022 9:31 am

Someone should do a study on the unvaxxed and why they are so preoccupied with the vaccines they didn’t take.

calli
calli
July 13, 2022 9:32 am

these viruses are of a different genus.

Vaccination against coronavirus was always that elusive Holy Grail.

It still is.

rosie
rosie
July 13, 2022 9:33 am

I want nuclear power stations built in Australia.
Actually they can build them anywhere they like.

calli
calli
July 13, 2022 9:34 am

Rosie, some of the “vaxxed” are still interested too. I like the truth, even if it’s unpalatable.

rosie
rosie
July 13, 2022 9:35 am

Yet hospitalisation and death rates from the more dangerous variants plummeted after at risk populations were vaccinated.
It’s a pickle.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 13, 2022 9:36 am

Someone should do a study on the unvaxxed and why they are so preoccupied with the vaccines they didn’t take.

Rosie – People are still losing their jobs and livelihoods for not accepting the vaccine. If it’d been voluntary there’d not be so much discussion. Nor would there be as much discussion if the vaccines actually, like, worked. Or if it didn’t harm and kill so many people.

rosie
rosie
July 13, 2022 9:38 am

That wasn’t my point calli.
Some people are clearly obsessed*, not merely ‘interested’.
*a blessing for the likes of the owner of the Daily Expose website and others feeding off the paranoia.

Gabor
Gabor
July 13, 2022 9:38 am

Vicki says:
July 13, 2022 at 9:09 am

This morning, standing alongside the Pox Princess, a Seven reporter was opining that the Covid infections on board were “a storm in a teacup”.

It’s interesting that, apparently, only 4 travellers are currently infected – but 100 crew have Covid. Of course, it won’t deter the cruise fanatics – they will still queue up for the buffet lunches, cabarets, and deck games…..

The fascination with cruises, I can’t understand.
Why would you commit weeks or even days of your life to living in a place and with people you can’t escape from when you could get the same or better food and ‘entertainment’ at any RSL for the fraction of the cost and go home to your own bed and bathroom after?

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 13, 2022 9:38 am

Didn’t the Victoriastan DPP send Pell back to VicPlod twice? I s’pose they took it forward at the end of the day. Nowhere to hide once you’re in the High Court.

rosie
rosie
July 13, 2022 9:40 am

No BoN it’s an obsession with people trying to prove the vaccine is the most deadly thing since the black death, only worser!!!!

Roger
Roger
July 13, 2022 9:41 am

The ACT Government says it’s confident it can find a construction company to build Strathnairn School with a 100 per cent female management team and women employed by every trade subcontractor.

Given the gender imbalance in the teaching profession, may I suggest that if the school is ever built it is staffed by 100% male teachers.

132andBush
132andBush
July 13, 2022 9:41 am

Will,

I think you are being too hard on Monty. A person can’t help it if they are not too bright

I don’t consider myself too bright but I’m not that stupidly gullible.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 13, 2022 9:43 am

I hadn’t bothered to post this one when it came out a few days ago, but it’s topical.

Huge Israeli study disproves link between COVID & heart inflammation (Arutz Sheva, 10 Jul)

The retrospective cohort study compared a group of almost 200 thousand people who had been infected with COVID, with a matched control group of almost 600 thousand people, following them between March of 2020 and January of 2021 (to eliminate any effect produced by vaccination).

Nine post-COVID patients developed myocarditis (0.0046%) and eleven developed pericarditis (0.0056%). In the control group, 27 patients developed myocarditis (0.0046%) and 52 developed pericarditis (0.0088%).

The researchers concluded that, “Post COVID-19 infection was not associated with either myocarditis or pericarditis.”

In other words just about all the heart inflammation is due to the vaccine not the actual disease. And it’s more evidence that the vaccine is actually worse than the disease except for people over the age of about 70, where it might become a worthwhile, if quite significant, risk.

calli
calli
July 13, 2022 9:45 am

I understand, rosie. I just like asking lots of questions. Call it a weakness. 🙂

On obsession – have any of the cruise detractors ever been on one? Not the “party ship” ones, but the upmarket, more expensive type? I have never been on the former, but have had quite a few of the latter.

I have noticed that there is a demographic that misbehaves at the buffet, even on those. No more thanks to Covid – all the areas will now have a dedicated server, no more “help yourself” style, which is a welcome change.

I’m a snob. So sue me.

rosie
rosie
July 13, 2022 9:45 am

Monty just thought he’d found the perfect cudgel to beat us about the head with.
Truth is he is fully on board with the woman’s right to choose at any point up til birth, if pressed he’d probably concede it is okay to ‘mercy kill’ newborns who have health issues that might compromise ‘quality of life’.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 13, 2022 9:46 am

No BoN it’s an obsession with people trying to prove the vaccine is the most deadly thing since the black death, only worser!!!!

I seem to recall there was a lot of discussion about thalidomide at the time. I’ve previously said this is a worse medical malpractice scandal than that one, and I’m not seeing anything to dissuade my view.

Unfortunately millions of people are now suffering quietly, without getting the medical support they need, because the medical practitioners are terrified they’ll lose their license to practice if they admit their patients are suffering from vaccine injury problems.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 13, 2022 9:47 am

The fascination with cruises, I can’t understand.

I never bothered with cruising but did Perth-Sydney on a mate’s father’s 100 foot yacht (and private chef). Being on holiday without airports and periodic unpacking has a certain appeal. The P & O rohypnol fueled quickies returning to Sydney less so.

Anchor What
Anchor What
July 13, 2022 9:47 am

Laura Jayes on Sky now on, talking as if the January 6th committee is absolutely kosher and there really were “insurrectionists”.

rosie
rosie
July 13, 2022 9:47 am

I have no interest in cruises*, or camping or many other leisure activities people apparently enjoy.
Each to their own.
*I’ll catch an overnight ferry though.

will
will
July 13, 2022 9:48 am

rosiesays:
July 13, 2022 at 9:35 am
Yet hospitalisation and death rates from the more dangerous variants plummeted

which is the normal course of evolution for new viruses, and may have nothing whatsoever to do with any vaccine. In fact vaccination would create a different selective pressure, which is what is being observed with the variants which arise it circumvent immune systems primed with the spike protein vaccine.

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 13, 2022 9:50 am

The fascination with cruises, I can’t understand.

Travelling first class on a Blue Riband run has some attraction.
Anything else has all the appeal of a tramp steamer to Lourenço Marques.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 13, 2022 9:50 am

I remember journalists who followed him on his drive to Sydney after he was released mocking him for wearing gardening clothes.

What is he supposed to wear? After being in prison (unjustly put there) why not wear comfortable clothes, especially if he was just going to sit in a car.

Perhaps they needed him to dress in Cardinal’s garb to dignify their tawdry little reports. Perhaps they could not imagine him as a Cardinal without it. Or perhaps they needed him so dressed so they could keep hinting that whatever he was guilty of could be extended to the whole of Catholicism.

rosie
rosie
July 13, 2022 9:51 am

Not the but Thalidomide argument again.

calli
calli
July 13, 2022 9:51 am

And speaking of “downmarket” cruises and ferries, the Beloved and I are booked to go on the Norwegian ferry next November, chasing the northern lights and stopping in at every little town and village in the fjords.

Something completely different – not quite DrBeau’s cargo ship, but pretty close.

rosie
rosie
July 13, 2022 9:52 am

I’m sure ignoramuses think cardinals wear vestments 24/7.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 13, 2022 9:54 am

Buffets are basically food socialism. Sooner or later the tragedy of the commons arises. Ticket prices can’t save you from that.

calli
calli
July 13, 2022 9:55 am

Buffets are basically food socialism.

That’s a keeper.

Even more reason to use the dining room and be waited on hand and foot.

rosie
rosie
July 13, 2022 9:55 am

Okay the vaccines causing a decrease in hospitalisation and death in the vaccinated while the unvaccinated continued to experience pre vaccine hospitalisation and death rates was a mere coincidence.

Waiting with bated breath for someone to roll out current stats stating 111% of all hospitalisations and deaths are now in the vaxxed.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 13, 2022 9:56 am

Rogersays:
July 13, 2022 at 9:41 am
The ACT Government says it’s confident it can find a construction company to build Strathnairn School with a 100 per cent female management team and women employed by every trade subcontractor.

Given the gender imbalance in the teaching profession, may I suggest that if the school is ever built it is staffed by 100% male teachers.

Many years ago, a woman (Can I presume her gender after all these years?) Liars pollie in the ACT was waxing eloquent about the need for some “affirmative action” to increase the number of wymminses in engineering and construction. In response I wrote a sarcastic letter to the local rag, suggesting that similar action to increase the proportion of male teachers should also be considered.

It got the response that might be expected.

Gabor
Gabor
July 13, 2022 9:57 am

calli says:
July 13, 2022 at 9:45 am

On obsession – have any of the cruise detractors ever been on one? Not the “party ship” ones, but the upmarket, more expensive type? I have never been on the former, but have had quite a few of the latter.

No calli, we have never been on a cruise for the reasons I stated.
Call it claustrophobia if you like but it’s more than that.
Have no problem traveling otherwise.

Roger
Roger
July 13, 2022 9:57 am

I’m sure ignoramuses think cardinals wear vestments 24/7.

No doubt; only they invariably call them “robes.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 13, 2022 9:58 am

* I’ll catch an overnight ferry though.

The Spirit of Tasmania captures the glamour of catching the bus. PRO TIP Book a table for the restaurant.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
July 13, 2022 9:59 am

SAN PEDRO HUAMELULA, Mexico, June 30 (Reuters) – A small town Mexican mayor married his alligator bride in a colorful ceremony as traditional music rang out and revelers danced while imploring the indigenous leader to seal the nuptials with a kiss.

San Pedro Huamelula Mayor Victor Hugo Sosa obliged more than once during Thursday’s wedding, bending down to plant his lips on the small alligator’s snout, which had been tied shut presumably to avoid unwanted biting.

The ritual marriage likely dates back centuries to pre-Hispanic times among Oaxaca state’s Chontal and Huave indigenous communities, like a prayer pleading for nature’s bounty.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 13, 2022 10:01 am

rosie

m0nty-fa is an exemplar of a certain strain of modern “Catholicism”. He should not be copied by genuine Christians.

Gabor
Gabor
July 13, 2022 10:02 am

Looks like notafan is taking over from Struth but from the other direction.
At least, she is not as verbose. thank God.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 13, 2022 10:02 am

I want nuclear power stations built in Australia.
Actually they can build them anywhere they like.

Next to Greens Party Headquarters in Melbourne?

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 13, 2022 10:02 am

WA Inc had its own affirmative action. Google “Western Women”. Sorry wymmynses, more wymmyn isn’t the answer.

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 13, 2022 10:06 am

The Spirit of Tasmania captures the glamour of catching the bus.

The old Stranraer to Larne night run was like being stuck in a Servo that had pokies.

jupes
jupes
July 13, 2022 10:06 am

Laura Jayes on Sky now on, talking as if the January 6th committee is absolutely kosher and there really were “insurrectionists”.

Just another brain dead idiot.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 13, 2022 10:06 am

Victoria declared a state of emergency on the 16th March 2020 re COVID.
It as all stay at home & be good citizens with the threat of lockdowns pending.
Pell was released on the 7th April and the plod didn’t give a shit about him being chased from Melbourne to Sydney.
Some virus.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 13, 2022 10:09 am

WA Inc had its own affirmative action. Google “Western Women”

Wasn’t that a farce of the first order?

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 13, 2022 10:09 am

Did a river cruise from Amsterdam to Budapest a few years back. Best holiday ever.

Small ship, with a changing fascinating scenery of the Rhine and the Danube both sides of the vessel every day.

rosie
rosie
July 13, 2022 10:13 am

Oh no I’m getting stick from ‘Gabor’.
Again.
You seem to have a lot in common with a certain former Sinc commentor who vowed never to post at Dover’s.
Another set of crazy coincidences?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 13, 2022 10:17 am

Did a river cruise from Amsterdam to Budapest a few years back. Best holiday ever.

Small ship, with a changing fascinating scenery of the Rhine and the Danube both sides of the vessel every day.

Back through Istanbul and Gallipoli – yes, best holiday ever. Did you see the Museum of the Secret Police in Budapest – the one with a replica T – 54 TANK in the foyer?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 13, 2022 10:18 am

Another one:

New study: COVID booster significantly delays end of infection (Israel National News, 10 Jul)

A new study published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) has demonstrated that people who are triple-vaccinated (boosted) against COVID recover significantly more slowly from COVID infection and remain contagious for longer than people who are not vaccinated at all.

Even more strikingly, at ten days post-infection, one-third of boosted people (31 percent) were found to still be carrying live, culturable virus. By contrast, just six percent of unvaccinated people were still contagious at day 10.

In other words, people who have received a booster shot are five times more likely still to be contagious at ten days post-infection than are unvaccinated people.

Be interesting to know if there’s a similar relationship for long covid, which seems plausible in light of this data.

Zipster
Zipster
July 13, 2022 10:19 am

WA Inc had its own affirmative action. Google “Western Women”. Sorry wymmynses, more wymmyn isn’t the answer.

the answer is stop being so selfish and have more babies

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 13, 2022 10:19 am

Laura Jayes on Sky now on

Laura Jayes was a Gillard surrogate.
Just like Alan Ramsey was for Keating before they fell out.
And like Peter Hartcher was for Rudd.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 13, 2022 10:22 am

Remember when Josh Zepps got all the praise for “taking Rogan to task” over COVID causing just as many heart issues as the vaccines reportedly were?
I wonder if Spotify will add another COVID info tag to that episode correcting their previous “correction”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 13, 2022 10:23 am

H B Bearsays:

July 13, 2022 at 9:38 am

Didn’t the Victoriastan DPP send Pell back to VicPlod twice? I s’pose they took it forward at the end of the day. Nowhere to hide once you’re in the High Court

As Mizz Judd found out.
As Gez and others have said, there is a world of difference between changing the nuance of your argument and seeking to change sworn evidence at the death.
Note. “Changing evidence”. Not “introducing new evidence”.
A second year law student would draw an immediate fail if they submitted an assignment advocating that as a course of action at appeal.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 13, 2022 10:25 am

As an example of how the service mentality at sea has changed, once went on a car trip to the mainland from Tasmania back in the early 80s. The car ferry was the Princess of Tasmania, and it was unionised to a huge extent.

One example was in the passenger lounges. They were run on the basis of closing at 9pm anyway. To buy a drink you had to tell one of a circulating series of waiters what you wanted. From memory you could only order one drink at a time, even if you were in a couple. He went off and got it, and when he delivered it you gave him the money – obviously a $5 note or whatever unless you had exact amount. He went off to the bar and brought back your change. Then you could order another. The thought of him having a change bag or there being other efficiencies was right out, as this would lose jobs. As would closing the bar at 9pm.

Then again, now cruise liners often feature casinos and expensive shops. Many resemble mazes for mice in which the main aim is to separate you from as much money as possible.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 13, 2022 10:28 am

I remember when the Cardinal’s conviction was overturned the left wing thinking was:

When convicted all sorts of monstrousness and villainy was attributed to him – nothing that was going too far.

Then, when the High Court looked at the conviction and laid out the reasons they overturned it then only those points explicitly cited by the HC were subtracted from the litany of evil heaped upon him – all the rest remained unchallenged by the HC (as lefties saw it) so he was still a terrible man who could be damned and denigrated without demur.

And there is nothing a true lefty enjoys more than hating someone. It becomes a reason to do something in itself, regardless of whether or not it is deserved.

Then, with a man so guilty, those objections to the original case by the HC can only be technicalities – the way a diabolical man escaped the law.

Which added another layer of insidiousness to the man.

This is just a large scale version of their thinking. We saw it because he has a high profile and all lefties exchanged expressions of loathing, of contempt, and of sheer bile exactly the way ants share pheromones promiscuously within their colony. Each eruption of vituperation was a bond. But this was done in the open. Gleefully, because they thought they had got a hated enemy.

But away from the bag cases this is how they think about anyone. Even a despised someone at their job about whom they heard a rumour that turned out to be false. Does not make them innocent. Makes them guiltier.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 13, 2022 10:30 am

Did you see the Museum of the Secret Police in Budapest?

No Zulu. Only had two days there. Did a steam train trip into the countryside.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 13, 2022 10:30 am

nothing that was going too far

nothing was going too far

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 13, 2022 10:32 am

Wasn’t that a farce of the first order?

It lacked a certain sophistication. Not surprising her kid only made it to teacher’s college.

Diogenes
Diogenes
July 13, 2022 10:35 am

I was dead keen to do a Viking cruise… Until I found out pillage, plunder and rapine were not activities offered

Mrs D and I like cruising and we have only ever been on P&O (aka

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 13, 2022 10:35 am

And like Peter Hartcher was for Rudd.

Greater love hath no man …

Except possibly Mavis and Keating.

Tom
Tom
July 13, 2022 10:39 am

Thanks, Feelthebern, for the link to Lauren Southern’s The Whole Truth, which unmasks the shocking behaviour of some of the political right’s recent heroes, from Milo Yiannopoulos to Tommy Robertson. It’s what happens when people with defective morality suddenly become famous. It runs nearly three hours, but it’s worth the time: it’s an instruction manual on how to not get sucked in by shysters and morons.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 13, 2022 10:44 am

Dover what did they hit?
What’s the speculation?

Also, in the FT overnight there was an article on the EU complaining about weapons from Ukraine ending up in other countries.
It’s paywalled.
I am surprised the FT would publish this as it is contrary to the narrative.

calli
calli
July 13, 2022 10:45 am

I’ll be having a look at that later, Tom. We have to bear in mind that Southern, herself, could also be showboating.

We live in an imperfect world, and even our allies are deeply flawed. I find myself questioning my own motives often too, because the most flawed is often looking back at me from the mirror.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 13, 2022 10:47 am

These people should have paid attention to those lyrics. One of them is that the lady in Life in the Fast Lane wanted “everything, all the time”:

Three men, including a curator for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, were charged on Tuesday over allegedly possessing a trove of stolen handwritten notes and lyrics by the Eagles’ co-founder Don Henley, with New York officials estimating the documents are worth more than $1 million.

Curator Craig Inciardi, Glenn Horowitz, and Edward Kosinski are all accused of being involved in a conspiracy that sought to peddle nearly 100 pages of Don Henley’s handwritten notes and lyrics from “Hotel California” and “Life in the Fast Lane” to potential buyers. (Attorneys for the men claimed their clients were innocent and would “fight these unjustified charges vigorously.”)

Henley has been trying to recover the manuscripts for years after the documents were allegedly stolen in the 1970s by an unnamed biographer, who pawned them off to Horowitz in 2005, according to officials.

Rolling Stone, with the perps in handcuffs in court

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 13, 2022 10:49 am

Someone would have linked to it at some stage Tom but you’re welcome.
Key people she mentioned but didn’t dump on.
Gavin McInnes, but only in the context she was accused of alerting Antifa to his appearances by Milo etc.
Alex Jones, who she said continued to be in contact with her even though the rest of the alt-right personalities dropped him.
Considering she didn’t dump on them it would appear they didn’t act like the others.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 13, 2022 10:50 am

I forgot to mention yesterday, Southern also showed a snippet of Laura Loomer dumping on her.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
July 13, 2022 10:52 am

The fascination with cruises, I can’t understand

Escapism is one motivator.
The lure of the open ocean is another.
Several days of excellent service attracts some.
Being able to either join the throng at the pool or dining room, or alternatively live in your own world in a stately location brings punters to cruising too.
Travel to new and exciting destinations is something you can’t get at the local RSL.
Many, many people find cruising a wonderful holiday. The immense capital outlay by cruise lines tells me their market research has identified a sizeable return on investment from the many who will buy cruises.
The confidence of cruise lines which refurbished their ships during covid lockdowns signals a huge confidence that your reticence is not shared by everybody.

Rabz
July 13, 2022 10:57 am

a conspiracy that sought to peddle nearly 100 pages of Don Henley’s handwritten notes and lyrics from “Hotel California” and “Life in the Fast Lane” to potential buyers

Less than worthless. Cue the Dude opining on the eagles while in the back seat of a taxi being driven by a black fan of the latter.

Tom
Tom
July 13, 2022 10:58 am

Southern, herself, could also be showboating…

Calli, after evaluating Lauren Southern and her story for nearly three hours, I think she’s ridgy-didge — just an idealistic 19-year-old (in 2014) who had her eyes opened by the bad personal behaviour of people she had admired.

I would add she has now retired from the activism business to have children and establish a family — she’s a well-adjusted young lady who’s a great advertisement for moral courage.

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 13, 2022 11:03 am

It’s paywalled.

The TL;DR.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 13, 2022 11:03 am

well-adjusted young lady who’s a great advertisement for moral courage.

Who put herself in harms way in South Africa & Turkey to do some real reporting.
I don’t have much of view on a lot of the other stuff she did.
But it takes independent journalists to go to bad places to report on worse stories these days.
Not the corporate “journalist”.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 13, 2022 11:05 am

to bad places to report on worse stories

h/t Gore Vidal even though I changed it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 13, 2022 11:06 am

Always listen to the Dude.

rickw
rickw
July 13, 2022 11:07 am

No BoN it’s an obsession with people trying to prove the vaccine is the most deadly thing since the black death, only worser!!!!

Hospitalisations over heart and circulatory issues at my workplace would seem to indicate that something is not right. Forgetting about people I know outside of work who are reporting similar issues.

But surely this could never happen in something that was developed in 12 months compared to the usual 12 years?!

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 13, 2022 11:12 am

While you were distracted by Boris resigning, the UK Gov. published data confirming the COVID Death-Rate per 100k is now highest among Fully Vaccinated; suggesting they’re suffering Antibody-Dependent Enhancement

*no-one* could have predicted this!

Tom
Tom
July 13, 2022 11:13 am

Bern, I don’t regard Lauren Southern as a journalist. Before her recent retirement to have children, she was a conservative activist.

Good journalism and activism don’t mix. As soon as you start peddling ideology or backing political candidates, you lose your ability to think and evaluate independently.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 13, 2022 11:14 am

This morning, standing alongside the Pox Princess, a Seven reporter was opining that the Covid infections on board were “a storm in a teacup”.

My take home was *never* board a ship with ‘Princess’ in the name!

miltonf
miltonf
July 13, 2022 11:14 am

So what have Milo and Tommy done? I believe Breitbart staff reached the stage where they refused to work with Milo.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 13, 2022 11:16 am

I am a little envious of husband’s status – as I didn’t catch it from him.

Given that the ‘preventative’ measures (masks, handwashing, 1.5m etc etc etc) are useless for airborne pathogens, you most likely *did* get an infective dose, hence your failure to fall ill likely indicates you already have immunity.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
July 13, 2022 11:16 am

Meme.

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rickw
rickw
July 13, 2022 11:19 am

Given that the ‘preventative’ measures (masks, handwashing, 1.5m etc etc etc) are useless for airborne pathogens, you most likely *did* get an infective dose, hence your failure to fall ill likely indicates you already have immunity.

How could people already be immune to the worlds newest and most deadly pox?! The Science says this is impossible!! 🙂

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 13, 2022 11:21 am

That wasn’t my point calli. Some people are clearly obsessed*, not merely ‘interested’.
*a blessing for the likes of the owner of the Daily Expose website and others feeding off the paranoia.

Well, capriciously losing ones career, income and volunteer work does leave one a little idle and open to muse I find?

Tom
Tom
July 13, 2022 11:21 am

Miltonf, Milo Y. stole hundreds of thousands of dollars of donations from his followers to maintain the Hollywood lifestyle to which he had become accustomed.

miltonf
miltonf
July 13, 2022 11:25 am

Thanks Tom- didn’t know that. And now he’s gone all religious.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 13, 2022 11:27 am

The ACT Government says it’s confident it can find a construction company to build Strathnairn School with a 100 per cent female management team and women employed by every trade subcontractor.

So, sexism is OK again now is it? The Duk takes notes…

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 13, 2022 11:30 am

The seven-year-old reptile, referred to as a little princess, is believed to be a deity representing mother earth, and her marriage to the local leader symbolizes the joining of humans with the divine.

Addit to my earlier post, never board a ship *or* date a female with ‘Princess’ in the name….

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
July 13, 2022 11:31 am

Putting aside the young princes, who are too young to assess now, Anne is the only apparently sane one in the whole mob.

A little removed, but Edward’s wife Sophie seems lovely. She became quite a companion to Phillip in his final months I believe, nice lady.

rickw
rickw
July 13, 2022 11:31 am

The ACT Government says it’s confident it can find a construction company to build Strathnairn School with a 100 per cent female management team and women employed by every trade subcontractor.

Based on bridge building experience, I wouldn’t be sending my kids there unless I wanted them crushed to death.

Winston Smith
July 13, 2022 11:31 am

ZK2A:

I want nuclear power stations built in Australia.
Actually they can build them anywhere they like.

Next to Greens Party Headquarters in Melbourne?

They can put one of those microreactors in my back yard if they want.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 13, 2022 11:32 am

Good point Tom.
But I don’t know what to call her South African work apart from journalism.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 13, 2022 11:34 am

PS if any Cats went to Southern’s Australian tour she says she didn’t make a penny.
She doesn’t say the tour promoters ripped her off, but that’s effectively what she says that happened.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 13, 2022 11:35 am

In the media today

1) Pox Princess COVID outbreak is a storm in a teacup
2) QANTAS to axe vax mandate on international flights
3) Govt confirms it will not extend the pandemic leave scheme
4) Free RAT programme canned despite a warning “millions” of Australians could contract Covid-19 over coming weeks

Is it just me, or is the narrative shifting??

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 13, 2022 11:39 am

) QANTAS to axe vax mandate on international flights

Does this mean the Joker plays in Melb next year?
Or is be banned for the next 3 years?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 13, 2022 11:40 am

rosiesays:
July 13, 2022 at 9:31 am
Someone should do a study on the unvaxxed and why they are so preoccupied with the vaccines they didn’t take.

Not till they finish the one that explains why a man who had a life threatening dose of Anaphylaxis to the vaccine, witnessed by the vaccinating staff was then forced to submit to further doses despite his strident opposition to further jabs. Of course he could have lost his job and had his skillset rendered unusable by refusing..

And then another about the link between my vax and a sudden temporary BP issue, followed by a shingles like outbreak on one arm with the second dose.

Once those and many other mandated assaults are investigated and prosecuted then you can have you “why are people suspicious/upset”one.

https://keanlegal.com.au/2020/09/19/assault-charges-western-australia/
Assault charges are not taken lightly in Western Australia. Penalties apply when proven guilty no matter how minor or major the charges are. Provisions for assault charges are dealt with in the Criminal Code 1913 (WA).

Assault is the direct infliction of force, violence or injury upon a person.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 13, 2022 11:43 am

The ACT Government says it’s confident it can find a construction company to build Strathnairn School with a 100 per cent female management team and women employed by every trade subcontractor.

How will the ACT Town Council distinguish between the males and females? Looking in their underpants doesn’t work these days.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 13, 2022 11:43 am

No. Sorry, onus of proof is on the vaccine heads. Even retrospectively.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 13, 2022 11:45 am

How will the ACT Town Council distinguish between the males and females? Looking in their underpants doesn’t work these days.

Ask them to reverse a trailer.

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 13, 2022 11:46 am

The ACT Government says it’s confident it can find a construction company to build Strathnairn School with a 100 per cent female management team and women employed by every trade subcontractor.

Hope it is better than the woman designed bridge in Florida.

Cassie of Sydney
July 13, 2022 11:46 am

“PS if any Cats went to Southern’s Australian tour she says she didn’t make a penny.
She doesn’t say the tour promoters ripped her off, but that’s effectively what she says that happened.”

I didn’t go however I remember she toured with Stefan Molyneux, does she speak about him?

I remember Milo saying the same thing about his Oz tour.

Anyway, as far as I’m concerned they’re all grifters, I do recall she was banned from the UK. I’ll say this about Ezra and Rebel….they do real journalism and Rebel provides a much needed media alternative in Canada. And whilst we bemoan the dire state of journalism in Australia, in Canada it’s worse, far worse.

rickw
rickw
July 13, 2022 11:47 am

Is it just me, or is the narrative shifting??

Everyone seems to be trying to put distance between this train wreck and themselves, from GP’s to Politicians. Only the dumbest such as Danny Boy are hanging onto it, even then, only tentatively.

Glad I lost my job over something that took most Australians 2 years to realise was pure and unadulterated bullshit.

Most Australians are scared sheep, they will trample over anyone and anything if you give them a fright.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
July 13, 2022 11:48 am

Miltonf, Milo Y. stole hundreds of thousands of dollars of donations from his followers to maintain the Hollywood lifestyle to which he had become accustomed.

As well as being a pervert and degenerate.

He is now grifting off Catholics.
With his ex-gay fakeness and husband now room mate.

Tom
Tom
July 13, 2022 11:49 am

I don’t know what to call her South African work apart from journalism.

The dereliction from its duty by the mainstream news media has turned many conservative activists into journalists. By refusing to cover stories that don’t fit a left-wing ideology, the left media (90%+ of all journalists vote left) has created a huge gap in the market — the gap used by Ruperdink Mudrock to create America’s most profitable pay TV network, Fox News.

You shut out a lot of news consumers if you decide to cover only half the market. Mudrock understands news economics better than the dunces at the Graniaud, Fakefacts-Nein and CNN.

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 13, 2022 11:50 am

Is it just me, or is the narrative shifting??

Slowly, slowly tippy toe away and let the whole sordid episode slide into the forgettery.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 13, 2022 11:50 am

Gaborsays:

July 13, 2022 at 10:02 am

Looks like notafan is taking over from Struth but from the other direction

notafan?
Where did that come from Mark?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 13, 2022 11:53 am

Vegan activist Tash Peterson arrives in Melbourne after leaving Perth due to pub ban
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July 13, 2022 9:45AM
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Notorious vegan activist Tash Peterson has delivered on her promise to flee Western Australia, arriving in Melbourne.

Days after drawing the ire of West Aussies with a stakeout at Perth Zoo just days after Tricia the elephant’s death, the controversial anti-meat protestor announced she had landed in Victoria.

Sharing a video from Melbourne Airport on Thursday morning, Peterson told how she fell victim to the spate of flight cancellations across the country, which delayed her arrival.

“We are finally in Melbourne after a very long journey, because our flight yesterday morning was cancelled,” she told her 16,000 fans.

“We booked another flight for yesterday night and it kept getting delayed but we’re here.”

And, of course, she plans to waste no time before taking to the streets. In footage on Instagram she appeared to be wearing a bathrobe and had a smear of “blood” on her cheek.

“We’ve had two or three hours’ sleep and we’re already protesting and we’re going to be in Bourke Street today,” she announced.

I hope Melbourne cops treat this P.O.S. with the contempt she deserves.

Winston Smith
July 13, 2022 11:54 am

Being the curious person I am, I decided to get one of those zombie virus test kits yesterday.
Brought it home and tried it out.
OK, negative for WZV.
But apparently I’m pregnant.
Hmmm.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 13, 2022 11:55 am

I didn’t go however I remember she toured with Stefan Molyneux, does she speak about him?

She still has a great relationship with him.
He was also caught up in the scamming promoter.

Cassie of Sydney
July 13, 2022 11:58 am

“She still has a great relationship with him.”

Molyneux is the supreme grifter. I think they’re all unsavoury.

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