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feelthebern
feelthebern
September 2, 2022 7:44 am

Narrative change alert (more like pending).
A lot of the DNC surrogates are really trying out this message that Trump closed schools and the DNC had them re-opened despite the best efforts of Republicans.
The press secretary has been at this now for the last two days & the surrogates are pushing it.
I just don’t think this level of gaslighting can succeed regardless if all shoulders are to the wheel.
Time will tell.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 2, 2022 7:47 am

“Voting is the ultimate expression of Freedom”

Yes, nothing expresses freedom like being forced to vote, under threat of punishment.

With compulsory voting you are forced to vote for the person who is least bad.

When people are not forced to vote candidates must win over voters to get them to the polls. It is not enough to be better than the other guy, you actually have to be good. If you are a bit less shitty people won’t vote for either of you.

The former case has been a mainstay of Liberal policy for decades – if they are can comport themselves as only 99% as bad a Labor then voters would vote for them.

If voting was not compulsory the Liberals would disappear in a whiff of smoke.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 2, 2022 7:59 am

NOW – White House: “When you are not with what majority of Americans are, then you know, that is extreme. That is an extreme way of thinking.”

How do you know what a majority of Americans are thinking? I mean, you might know a few dozen, and maybe a hundred you actually listen to on TV, radio, in the papers etc. But 330 million Americans.

As usual, the government comes to save the day.

They will tell you what most Americans think.

(When Trump won in 2016, could we construe that as meaning the Hilderbeest’s voters were in the minority? Were they extremists?)

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 2, 2022 8:00 am

Jobson Skills Summit First Day Triumph for Albo

Fears of industry-wide strikes risk jobs summit consensus on pay bargaining

1) Albo has bought 200,000 skilled migrants for 180,000 free TAFE places.

2) The ACTU is getting Tony Burke to produce ‘reform’ legislation allowing multi-employer bargaining.

3) Employer groups sidelined: you got your migrant labour, the ACTU got your balls in their hands.
Compromise.

Despite the grumpy media, Dutton played a smart card by not attending.

m0nty
m0nty
September 2, 2022 8:01 am

Alaska is an example of the problems the base of the GOP is up against.

It is difficult to separate out the Dobbs effect with Palin being a terrible candidate. The fact that the Democrat won by two points in a R+8 district suggests the Dobbs effect is the best part of ten points.

132andBush
132andBush
September 2, 2022 8:07 am

rosie says:
September 2, 2022 at 5:06 am

Susan Clarke pleads guilty to vaccine fraud after paying NDIS recipient to have COVID-19 jab on her behalf

I yearn for the day when the pieces of shit who forced people to see this as the only way out get their day in court.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 2, 2022 8:10 am

m0ntysays:
September 2, 2022 at 8:01 am
Alaska is an example of the problems the base of the GOP is up against.

It is difficult to separate out the Dobbs effect with Palin being a terrible candidate. The fact that the Democrat won by two points in a R+8 district suggests the Dobbs effect is the best part of ten points.

m0nty-fa resorts to wishful thinking, seeing abortion behind every snow drift in Alaska.

What percentage of voters went Republican in the ballot?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 2, 2022 8:14 am

In Canary in the Coal Mine news:

Bavarian Bier Cafe customer spots hidden charge on Sunshine Coast venue’s receipt

On the receipt was an additional “industry service charge” of five per cent.

According to the company’s website, a 10 per cent surcharge applies on Sundays, 15 per cent on public holidays and a five per cent service fee applies Monday to Saturday.

However, it fails to explain what exactly the surcharge covers.

The headline price may not change. But inflation shows up in many ways.

Smaller portions. Cheaper ingredients. Same packaging less contents.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 2, 2022 8:14 am

Victoria Police has been unable to prove if thousands of new recruits had any impact on crime rates, a scathing report has revealed.

well, the COVID mandates *did* create an awful lot of new criminals.

duncanm
duncanm
September 2, 2022 8:14 am

Some movement on pumped hydro.
(NSW) Government pumps $44m into hydro projects to plug energy gaps

Right, so we have:
– Oven Mountain 600 MW / 7200 MWh $9.64m
– Muswellbrook 250 MW / 2000 MWh $9.45m
– Lake Lyell 335 MW / 2680 MWh $11m
– Central West 325 MW / 2600 MWh $9.44m
– Shoalhaven 235 MW / 5640 MWh $5.31m

So a total of 1.75 GW / 20.1 GWh

By comparison, a Mount Piper (nameplate 1400 MW) pumps out that every day, all day.

I’m not sure what happens when the next drought hits and we’re running (stupid) desal plants while usable water is being pumped up dale and down for power storage.

duncanm
duncanm
September 2, 2022 8:15 am

Victoria Police has been unable to prove if thousands of new recruits had any impact on crime rates, a scathing report has revealed.

well – it probably took some crims off the streets and into (crime) management instead.

Zipster
Zipster
September 2, 2022 8:16 am

Compulsory voting forces people to vote and this might save the right in this country

nothing will save the right until they come up with a new vision of our future that isn’t back to the 50s. at present the right ie liberals offer nothing other than woke light

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 2, 2022 8:16 am

Dr McDonald said it was a common misconception that GPs who bulk-billed were paid a salary.

“We’re not on any salary at all,” she said.

“We’re private businesses — contractors.

“We have to pay our own super, holiday pay, sick pay, study leave, etc and we’re not earning enough to do that.

“For the younger doctors, they’ll be hard-pressed to pay back the huge loans they’ve got.”

Beginning to tear up.
The poor things.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 2, 2022 8:17 am

Compulsory voting ain’t what it cracked up to be- like I keep saying, a prole doesn’t have to vote, all they need to do is make a reasonable account of themselves on election day. That may simply be ticking themselves off the register- even when they have the ballots in hand, there is no obligation to make a valid mark. Scrutineers round here reckon the “f*ck the lot of them” vote runs at about 5%, more than the greens.
We’d do better to heed the lessons of the US- and hold tight to identity checks, paper ballots and hand counts.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 2, 2022 8:17 am

Dotsays:
September 2, 2022 at 5:40 am
The white knighting knows no bounds. Or crafty defence lawyer PR?
Sure there a lot of crazies in gaol, but death threats against Chris Dawson?

Probably both.
I seem to recall seeing allegations of the chap lending his penis to some of his students.
That would make him a rock spider in the prison world.
The lowest of the low.

Cassie of Sydney
September 2, 2022 8:19 am

“nothing will save the right until they come up with a new vision of our future that isn’t back to the 50s. at present the right ie liberals offer nothing other than woke light”

I agree. Re. the “woke light”…watch the Victorian Liberals get decimated in November.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 2, 2022 8:19 am

Why the left shouldn’t be crowing so loudly about that Sarah Palin defeat

Well, the left has got one. On Twitter and beyond, you’ve never heard such crowing.

According to Politico:

That 60% of the state could vote for a Republican, yet the seat should nevertheless go to a Democrat, is bitter news indeed for the Republicans. Ranked-choice voting, which in Alaska was introduced in this election, where the voters whose candidate is eliminated get to vote a second time, through their second choices, pretty well left enough holes for the Democrats to walk away with the seat.

In Palin’s case, some voters didn’t add a second choice to their ballot, and others voted for the Democrat as a second choice. Enough voters didn’t check Palin to make the slate victorious for the Republicans, which is where the problem came in for Palin.

There’s a lot to be said about the “fairness” of this sort of rigging, which is also how San Francisco ended up with now-recalled Chesa Boudin as district attorney. If one subset of voters gets two votes, why don’t all of them?

It’s doubly sad because Sarah Palin had been the frontrunner and was attempting to make a political comeback. Palin had been unjustly hounded from office as governor in 2009, following her stint as John McCain’s running mate in 2008, attracting grotesque amounts of demonizing attention from the left, as well as from sleazy McCain staffers leaking from inside the campaign. Her detractors painted Palin as a hick and spread lies about her as corrupt, ignorant, and phony. It was a demonization that could only be compared to what they later did to Donald Trump, which is to say, Palin was the proto-Trump. Had she won, it would have been poetic justice.

Instead, we got this:

If the GOP can take this defeat as a wake-up call, they’ll learn the value of not allowing the GOP vote to be split despite taking 60% of the vote. They’ll prepare ahead of time and not allow two candidates to run for the same seat against one Democrat.

What’s more, that might happen sooner rather than later.

Palin gets another swing at Peltola and her leftist agenda in November, and if the greenie-agenda pain is strong enough, and the Bidenflation high enough, there should be flip-back, same as happened in Massachusetts. Alaska is a pretty libertarian state in orientation, and there are a lot of libertarians who are liberal on abortion, which is what was said to have driven the Democrats. But inflation in general tops that as an issue for voters according to most polls, particularly with the Democrats’ extended incompetence on the matter.

Second, this strange rigged election is hardly about to be repeated in the rest of the country, since only a few places now have ranked-choice voting.

Let the leftists have their fun now. They’ve got a few months. Palin and the rest of the GOP, it is hoped, will double down on winning the red wave harder now, which is theirs to catch.

They may not be cheering in November.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 2, 2022 8:21 am

What the hell was so bad about the 50’s Zipster?
As far as I can tell, the cars were epic, families were larger, fences were lower, backyards were bigger, women were slimmer, and things like Coke and cigarettes were actually good for you.
If you want a picture of the lush life of leisure like the post-war period, watch Bluey.

Cassie of Sydney
September 2, 2022 8:21 am

“If voting was not compulsory the Liberals would disappear in a whiff of smoke.”

Yep.

Dot
Dot
September 2, 2022 8:23 am

I don’t know how to feel about our prisoners declaring feminism as wrong and that a 17 year old girl or 18 year old woman cannot consent.

Is this based?

Tom
Tom
September 2, 2022 8:26 am

There is a clear pattern now of vilifying anyone that departs from the grounds permitted by the Regime.

Because the sheer volume of cheating in the mid-terms will be eye-watering, the only way middle America can get their country back from the faceless cabal running the White House, the federal government and their Praetorian Guard in the media is the mother of all electoral hidings that the cheats simply can’t paper over.

The enemy isn’t just the nihilist lunatics who’ve taken over the Democratic Party, but the Republican Party establishment.

rosie
rosie
September 2, 2022 8:26 am
Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 2, 2022 8:26 am

Victoria Police has been unable to prove if thousands of new recruits had any impact on crime rates, a scathing report has revealed.

Crime?
TaliDan doesn’t want new black shirt shock troops for crime.
Non adherence to correct thought and strict compliance to his edicts are the more the flavour.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 2, 2022 8:28 am

Today’s Courier Mail saying unvaxxed health workers can now go back to work in private hospitals and GP clinics.

However still can’t enter a Government owned hospital.

All aged care workers still required to be vaxxed.

I know many who work in private hospitals or clinics can often go to work in Government facilities. For example many nurses on casual do this all the time. They go where needed.

A specialist Dr for example might work out of a private clinic but might want to visit his patient in public hospital or even consult inside. He could not attend a meeting with others for example.

It defies common sense and the problem is the media are too dumb to pick up on it.

Whoever decided this clearly has no idea and are lucky the media can’t grasp such things when press conference going on. Not sure if there was a press conference or by press release.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 2, 2022 8:28 am

Dot earlier.
Dawson’s mouthpiece started bleating about ‘deaf freats’ before he had been in jail 24 hours.
He would have been in assessment and locked up in a single cell.
Maybe a bit of harsh banter from across the way but, other than that, the claims are 93.1% bullshit.
What we have here is a bloke who has spent his life controlling people, either by bullying or through their misplaced adulation of him.
He is now in a place where he has virtually zero control.
And he doesn’t like it.
Jail is a shit place.
If you don’t want to go there, don’t kill people.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 2, 2022 8:30 am

“If voting was not compulsory the Liberals would disappear in a whiff of smoke.”

Yep.

And we’d have an unshackled Labor/Green Government with a free range, socialist-leaning Senate topping up the progactivism.

Oh.
Well, a permanent one.

Indolent
Indolent
September 2, 2022 8:32 am

Susan Clarke pleads guilty to vaccine fraud after paying NDIS recipient to have COVID-19 jab on her behalf

How dare our government put people in the position of having to choose between losing their living and taking an experimental drug? She may be guilty of this, but they are guilty of much more. And what punishment will they face for destroying people’s lives.

Dot
Dot
September 2, 2022 8:33 am

If I can see through it an appeals court can too.

Also, their neighbours owned a little red car.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
September 2, 2022 8:33 am

Mother Lode says:
September 2, 2022 at 7:47 am
“Voting is the ultimate expression of Freedom”
Yes, nothing expresses freedom like being forced to vote, under threat of punishment.
With compulsory voting you are forced to vote for the person who is least bad.
….

I don’t mind compulsory voting per se. What I strenuously object to is being forced to number every box. Let me vote for as many or as few of the candidates as I wish, that is all. Optional preferential voting.

duncanm
duncanm
September 2, 2022 8:35 am

“compulsory voting + preferential system” sucks dogs balls… though informal voting gets around it.

Indolent
Indolent
September 2, 2022 8:37 am

Heard exactly the same comment from a young GP in western NSW.
Doctor shortage ‘will worsen’ as young doctors walk away from general practice

From the article

Susan McDonald, who has been practising in Cairns for the past 26 years, says GPs are “the domestic servants of the medical world”.

With government bureaucrats telling them what they can and cannot say to their patients, on threat of losing their licence. No wonder.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 2, 2022 8:38 am

Vinya Prasad post is very important concerning Myocarditis in under 40’s, particularly males, with Moderna.

Moderna for under certain ages was banned in some European countries but not in USA.

He says the problem is they lump all people in one age group. What may be good for a 87 year old female may not be good at all for a healthy 22 year old male.

We are seeing that here.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 2, 2022 8:38 am

m0nty-fa resorts to wishful thinking, seeing abortion behind every snow drift in Alaska.

He really seems fired up about abortion though. Normally it is blubbery blue-haired misandrists with their rough hides 90% tattooed and perpetually angry and at war with the world.

Weird.

I suppose every baby born will eventually be competition for donuts.

I wonder if he ever looks at his kid and thinks “for all the joy and love you bring, for all endearing ways, for all your silly little fears and brow-furrowing childish cares, for all your innocence, hope, dreams – your existence could have been snuffed out in the womb and I would have been OK with that.”

Perhaps he does. But then his mind is snatched back to reality by a gurgling in his stomach. His mind turns to donuts – like a dozen little life savers that can keep you afloat on a sea of appetite. Looking like a dozen sirens’ lips shaped in song, a song which fills you mind until there is nothing but the song, slowly drawing you in, closer and closer… There is rope strong enough, no knot tight enough, no mast sturdy enough to keep any Odysseus from surrendering to that sugary, carbohydrate-y, oily shoal promising such blissful annihilation.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 2, 2022 8:39 am

If you don’t want to go there, don’t kill people.

You know who else put people in jail for murder.
Hitler.

You are just like Hitler for imposing your fuddy duddy X-tian mores and morals on people.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 2, 2022 8:39 am

How dare our government put people in the position of having to choose between losing their living and taking an experimental drug?

So you are OK with her pushing someone else forward to get the experimental drug on her behalf?
Someone who has multiple health issues and whose carer and guardian had explicitly stated was not to be given the vax?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 2, 2022 8:40 am

I don’t mind compulsory voting per se.

The main problem is that the electoral outcome gets viewed as a mandate by the winner – even when you score ~30% of the Primary and scrape into power on preferences.

What I strenuously object to is being forced to number every box. Let me vote for as many or as few of the candidates as I wish, that is all. Optional preferential voting.

Amen.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 2, 2022 8:43 am

Oops forgot to mention Dr John Campbell.

His latest on pregnant women being vaxxed is a classic. Even though he is reading from official Government web pages he goes to great lengths to highlight what he is not allowed to say according to YouTube. He even shows his YouTube warning.

There has been a change in wording from Government on pregnant women no longer being priority group for Vax and now saying need to consult Dr.

It is very clever how he does it but he is clearly telling pregnant women not to be vaxxed.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 2, 2022 8:43 am

Yes, mole, I am literally Hitler.
It’s a tough job, but someone has to do it.
It pays well, 15% super and an RDO each fortnight under the ‘Megalomaniac Despots EBA’.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 2, 2022 8:47 am

Caught Duttons segment on Ray Hadley show yesterday.

He had a list of names and went into the background of some of them. Socialist Alliance, against the subs, militant Unionist etc.

It was very good. Not seen such a list in the media but some of them should be obvious.

“Despite the grumpy media, Dutton played a smart card by not attending”

Zipster
Zipster
September 2, 2022 8:48 am

So you are OK with her pushing someone else forward to get the experimental drug on her behalf?

absolutely

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 2, 2022 8:52 am

So you are OK with her pushing someone else forward to get the experimental drug on her behalf?
Someone who has multiple health issues and whose carer and guardian had explicitly stated was not to be given the vax?

Just as ok as youd be with the governments doing the same to the entire population.

Eg: Not ok.

m0nty
m0nty
September 2, 2022 8:55 am

Why would Dutton appear at the job summit? It doesn’t have anything to do with him.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 2, 2022 8:56 am

Ready for monty to pop his foofter valve?

Ive pre-recorded his response.

Donald Trump says he plans to pardon US Capitol attack participants if elected
‘I mean full pardons with an apology to many,’ says former president as January 6 rioter sentenced to 10 years for assault

Donald Trump said on Thursday he would pardon and apologize to those who participated in the deadly attack on the US Capitol on January 6 if he were elected to the White House again.

“I mean full pardons with an apology to many,” he told Wendy Bell, a conservative radio host on Thursday. “I will be looking very, very strongly about pardons, full pardons.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/01/donald-trump-pardons-january-6-us-capitol-attack

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 2, 2022 8:57 am

If you don’t want to go there, don’t kill people.

That’s an overly simplistic view.

Leon L.
Leon L.
September 2, 2022 8:58 am

Farmer Gez at 8:16
Dr McDonald said it was a common misconception that GPs who bulk-billed were paid a salary.
“We’re not on any salary at all,” she said.
“We’re private businesses — contractors.

Current going rate for contacted GPs is 70% gross billings.
With costs at least 35% gross billings, there is a problem Houston.
There are very few GP practice owners anymore, so few GPs with any understanding of running a business.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 2, 2022 8:59 am

Baris had a matrix up re Alaska a month prior to the election.
It was along the lines of turnout thresholds.
On election day as soon as the turn out wasn’t going to meet a certain threshold, he said Palin was cooked.

m0nty
m0nty
September 2, 2022 8:59 am

I wonder if he ever looks at his kid and thinks “for all the joy and love you bring, for all endearing ways, for all your silly little fears and brow-furrowing childish cares, for all your innocence, hope, dreams – your existence could have been snuffed out in the womb and I would have been OK with that.”

Geez you lot can post some rubbish.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 2, 2022 9:00 am

Art anyone?

No place for PC politics of cultural ownership

HENRY ERGAS

“Aboriginal art”, wrote Margaret Preston in 1941, is not merely “great art”; it is “the natural heritage of the Australian artist who can, from this work, produce a national art like none other in the world”. And that, of course, is what she sought to do, drawing on Aboriginal pigments and patterns to cast this country’s beauty in a new light.

But far from celebrating Preston’s achievement, and that of the artists who followed in her footsteps, the Productivity Commission’s just released Draft Report on Aboriginal and Torres Strait Visual Arts and Crafts slams the use by non-Indigenous artists of Indigenous “styles, methods, techniques or ideas”.

“Those forms of use,” it claims, “often disrespect, misrepresent and even demean Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures and can cause offence.” Left unchecked, the “misappropriation” could cause “the erosion of the world’s oldest continuous living cultures”.

Preventing that outcome requires “dedicated cultural rights legislation”, which would give every Indigenous “mob or clan, language group, outstation or town” the right to pursue in the courts any use by visual artists of its iconography, even if that use complied fully with the copyright laws. By creating that special right, says the report, parliament would take an important step towards “recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander sovereignty and reparation for the harms caused by colonial law, policy and practice”.

To reach those conclusions, the PC ignores the terms of reference it received from the former treasurer, which direct it to consider not just the benefits of any new arrangements but also the “costs, risks and implementation challenges of any policy responses”. Instead, the report’s summary table includes a column for alleged benefits but no column for costs and risks, which the report’s 360 pages barely discuss.

Ignored too is the requirement for the inquiry to assess its proposals’ “impacts on the wider community”, rather than focusing solely on particular groups. That would have meant paying attention to the well-established economic framework for analysing intellectual property rights, which the report completely disregards.

Little wonder then that the report is a mix of untested assumptions, questionable inferences and often extreme recommendations, which are advanced without any evidence that they are addressing a serious problem.

At the heart of its argument for cultural rights legislation is the assertion that Indigenous communities collectively “own” their cultures – an ownership claim the report analogises to native title over land.

Taken at face value, the belief that “culture” – a term capable of innumerable definitions – can be “owned” in the same way as land involves a fallacy of misplaced concreteness: it confuses words and things, ensuring that attempts to enshrine it in legislation would lead to chaos.

But even putting that aside, the report simply assumes that Indigenous artists agree that their communities have an ownership stake in the cultural elements on which they rely and in the works they produce.

In reality, the only case that carefully examined the contention that collective ownership of cultural assets is an accepted part of customary law – the landmark case of Bulun Bulun and Anor v R&T Textiles (1998) – decisively rejected it.

The report cites the case, but it conveniently ignores the Federal Court’s finding of fact that “There is no usual or customary practice whereby artworks are held in trust for the Ganalbingu people”.

Nor is that finding surprising. It is, after all, well-known that, just like their non-Indigenous counterparts, some of the greatest Indigenous artists would not countenance communal restrictions on their independence.

Geoffrey Bardon, the art teacher who commissioned the revolutionary Papunya paintings of 1971-72, put it well in saying about Kaapa Tjampitjinpa, the most influential of the innovators, that “along with sacredness and secrecy, Kaapa threw his traditions to the wind”.

Papunya’s pioneers did not see themselves as agents of a collective entity that could veto their work; rather, they were acting “as Australian citizens with the same rights as other Australians to be artists”. No doubt some elders found their paintings sacrilegious, but as even Long Jack Phillipus Tjakamarra – who was relatively conservative – said of his fellow artists’ decisions, “they got a right”.

Yet those innovations, and the artistic renaissance they helped trigger, could readily have been crushed under the PC’s proposed regime, which – the report tells us – is not intended to encourage “things that are ‘new’ ” but to preserve “things that are ‘old’ ”.

It is not just tomorrow’s innovators who would be at risk. Thus, the report cites Panama’s indigenous cultural rights legislation, which has acted as a model for similar legislation elsewhere in Latin America.

What it doesn’t say, however, is that the heavily patriarchal leaderships of the region’s indigenous communities have used cultural rights legislation to restrict opportunities for women, increasing the tribal elders’ dominance over their community’s most vulnerable members. And adding to the harm, the legislation has almost everywhere exacerbated conflicts between indigenous communities, as each community claims ownership rights over vaguely defined visual styles, methods and techniques that – far from being clearly unique to a particular community – are in widespread use.

The threats the PC’s proposed regime poses to Australia’s non-Indigenous artists are no less substantial than the risks it creates for their Indigenous counterparts.

Like other forms of creative expression, the visual arts reflect the lived experience of their creators; and in today’s Australia, Indigenous cultures, along with their modes of expression, are an intrinsic part of the lived experience of all artists, regardless of race or ethnicity.

It is therefore nonsense to claim, as the report does, that when non-Indigenous artists use those cultural elements, they are “appropriating” someone else’s culture. They are, on the contrary, authentically representing their own – and advancing, in the process, the common understanding that is the foundation of reconciliation.

Constraining their ability to do so could only impoverish this country’s cultural life while creating new gulfs between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians.

Ultimately, this flawed report is symptomatic of a broader trend that holds proposals involving Indigenous policies to a lower, more accommodating, standard of analysis than would be acceptable in other domains.

It is as if repeated failure, instead of instilling an appreciation of the need for caution, had induced the belief that any proposal, no matter how ill-conceived, has to be waved through as a sign of goodwill to Indigenous Australians, who cannot be expected to handle the harsh glare of serious scrutiny.

It is impossible to think of a more patronising attitude – nor of one surer to perpetuate the failures and hardships it pretends to correct. With the Productivity Commission, which was once the guardian of rigour and impartiality, now joining the pack, the future for Indigenous policy could scarcely be bleaker.

johanna
johanna
September 2, 2022 9:04 am

Yesterday I mentioned that the Aboriginal flag hanging from a nearby building site’s crane had been supplanted by a much larger Australian flag being hung above it.

It was a pincer movement, because this morning the Aboriginal flag is gorn. Disappeared. Vanished. Only the Australian flag remains.

This would never happen in Canbra, which is only a few kms but nevertheless a world away. It would be front page news, with outraged white activists (and a few token blacks) frothing and spitting about wacism and white supremacy. Local politicians would weigh in, looking and sounding Deeply Concerned. The Australian flag would be taken down and banished to a dank store-room, and a huge Aboriginal flag would be triumphantly raised to much approbation and self-congratulation.

I await with interest future developments here, if any.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 2, 2022 9:06 am

This might be a good little folk horror along the lines of ‘let the right one in”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmF4_7liP3c

Finns, vodka and horror.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 2, 2022 9:07 am

It was a pincer movement, because this morning the Aboriginal flag is gorn. Disappeared. Vanished. Only the Australian flag remains.

A comment on the inVoice ?

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
September 2, 2022 9:07 am

test

shatterzzz
September 2, 2022 9:08 am

it’s also the residents of Campbelltown, Penrith, Fairfield and Blacktown who are forced to vote.

Could be right on compulsory voting .. in Fairfield it’d be close to 80% of the population, these dayz, that don’t use English as a 1st language so without compulsory voting .. or more, definitely,the hip pocket pain it brings, opening the polling booths would only be for the trickle effect .. non compulsory queueing in Fairfield only occurs with “freebies” and CentreLink .. LOL!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 2, 2022 9:11 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:

September 2, 2022 at 8:57 am

If you don’t want to go there, don’t kill people.

That’s an overly simplistic view.

Oh, OK.
How about this:-

If you don’t want to go there, don’t kill people and root young schoolgirls in your care.
Better?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 2, 2022 9:12 am

If I can see through it an appeals court can too.

Also, their neighbours owned a little red car.

I knew it!

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 2, 2022 9:12 am

In the American Spectator: by Dan Buck

Why I left public education for a Christian school

Not because I couldn’t ‘handle it’

A social distancing sign is posted on a fence outside of the PS 130 The Parkside School (Lower School) on November 19, 2020 in New York City after Mayor Bill de Blasio closed all New York City public schools for in-person learning (Getty Images)

Another school year has begun. It’s another year that I’m grateful to have left public education.

From the outside, it doesn’t make much sense for me to have left. I had a good reputation in my district among staff, students, and administration. The pay at public schools is markedly better. And being a private school teacher makes you something of an outcast among teacher colleagues — never quite “one of us.”

I did not leave because of the standard accusation — that I couldn’t “handle it.” In many ways, my private school jobs have been far more difficult than my public school one. Working in a small Catholic school, I had to teach literature and grammar to three different grades, meaning six or seven classes in a day, which was astronomically more prep work than being solely the freshman English teacher. Since then, I’ve moved to an urban private school in the most crime-ridden zip code in my state, a far more challenging position than anything I’d faced before.

No, I finally left because of Covid. My public school closed and had no intention of following the science to open. So I sought out a school that wanted to serve students and do the right thing even when it was controversial. But that was only the final instigator. Countless other factors led to my decision.

My frustration began with the politics. The media accuses conservatives of politicizing education. Quite the contrary, they only notice what is there. I first encountered critical race theory in graduate school for education in 2016. Professional developments blather on about equity, social justice, and other progressive buzzwords unaware of how politically charged and controversial these supposed ideals are. Everyone obsessed over immutable characteristics. Teachers showed an obvious bias towards progressivism and the Democratic Party.

But I grew used to instructional coaches and administrators who lacked any self-awareness of their political biases. I can’t blame the fish for not seeing the water.

It’s when public education began adopting detrimental policies that I couldn’t continue to lend my support and time to a broken system. Across the board, they are removing punitive discipline from their school structure. Suspension rates have halved in some districts and others have outright banned suspensions. Unsurprisingly, without boundaries and consequences, schools are descending into chaos. At my formerly well-regarded public school, we had about weekly fights.

And while the violence makes the news, the real detrimental effect is the constant low-level disruption. I can break up a fight and move on. But it’s the incessant disrespect and low-level chaos, the swearing in the hallway, the subtle bullying, the trash on the floor, the disregard for basic classroom rules, that leave teachers unable to teach — it’s these factors that grind you down like sandpaper on wood, that leave the well-behaving students fed up as well. So I quit.

On the curricular side, schools are dropping all preset learning standards and handing over control to students. No longer does a teacher expose his students to great works of literature and help them to fall in love with Gatsby or Romeo. Now, entertainment value and superficial student interest guide the classroom content. Vulgar young adult fiction and zealous political interest have replaced robust history and beautiful literature.

Anytime these so-called “student centered,” painfully individualistic approaches to education have been tried, they are found lacking. Structured environments with the teacher as an expert and authority always result in the most learning for the most students. Schools moved away from this tried-and-true method, and so I quit.

Now, I work at a private Christian school in the center of Milwaukee. My students read great literature and study history with much rigor. The academic and behavioral expectations are exacting, but my students prove time again that they are capable of meeting them — if only the adults in the building have the backbone to enforce them.

Public education is in shambles. Teachers are leaving, students are leaving, and the system is set to crumble — weighed down by its own broken policies, overspending, and calcified bureaucracy. Meanwhile, the charter, private, home, and micro-school sectors are booming.

We are on the cusp of a new era in American education. The common school movement in America 150 years ago shifted the standard of education from a handful of aristocratic elites with tutors to a modern public system, funded and run by the government. This structure served a purpose for a time, but there looks to be a Cambrian explosion of educational models now. The choice movement could initiate a historical remaking of education on par with the common school movement before.

And so I quit the old system to join something better.

Zipster
Zipster
September 2, 2022 9:13 am

Productivity Commission’s just released Draft Report on Aboriginal and Torres Strait Visual Arts and Crafts slams the use by non-Indigenous artists of Indigenous “styles, methods, techniques or ideas”.

none so blind as those that claim to be woke. bunch of “woke” pooftas

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 2, 2022 9:13 am

Munty looking forward to his wifes kids getting dick and boobies lopped off so they think like him. You know it makes sense. You’re fucked in the head.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 2, 2022 9:16 am

A comment on the inVoice ?

The “West Australian” is trotting out all the old rubbish about Aborigines not being citizens, or counted in the census, until 1967 – they aren’t allowing comments on the article….

shatterzzz
September 2, 2022 9:16 am

“For the younger doctors, they’ll be hard-pressed to pay back the huge loans they’ve got.”

I hope AnAl is gonna address this “forced” labour problem wiv ‘is jerbs summit .. ! I mean, imagine being forced to go to university and study medicine at your own expense when all you really wanted to be was a builder’s labourer .. shame. shame, shame ….!

Zipster
Zipster
September 2, 2022 9:18 am

Natural immunity in Portugal
Dr. John Campbell

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 2, 2022 9:21 am

Oops forgot to mention Dr John Campbell.

slowly slowly Dr John is having the scales pulled from his eyes. It must be painful for a person who is obviously so invested in being ‘nice’, trusting the ‘authorities’ and ‘doing the right thing’ to keep everybody ‘safe’.

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 2, 2022 9:22 am

Sky in the daytime continues to run the Democrat talking points and spew anti-Trump bile.
If it wasn’t for Laura Jayes being rated FF I wouldn’t bother.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 2, 2022 9:23 am

“For the younger doctors, they’ll be hard-pressed to pay back the huge loans they’ve got.”

they will be OK …Pfizer has got their backs

Indolent
Indolent
September 2, 2022 9:24 am
flyingduk
flyingduk
September 2, 2022 9:25 am

The new ivermectin video is a must see. This video is approved by Doctors Pierre Kory and Paul Marik and many others. The video is NOT approved by the FDA, the CDC, the NIH, CNN, or the White House. Producer: Mikki Willis, Length: 15 min.

What?? Ivermectin is effective?… why didn’t we hear about this earlier?? (sarc)

Indolent
Indolent
September 2, 2022 9:27 am
Anchor What
Anchor What
September 2, 2022 9:29 am

What the hell was so bad about the 50’s Zipster?
‘Zactly! The modern world has taught us to appreciate what was once a most enjoyable lifestyle, not as wealthy in moolah but rich in the simple pleasures.

Indolent
Indolent
September 2, 2022 9:30 am
shatterzzz
September 2, 2022 9:32 am

There are rare occasions when I try to muster sympathy for some of these ‘sob’ stories but time after time some minor element jarrs and I’m, again, left wondering .. “Am I the only one who sees it?” .. This offering is one of those .. I’ve no reason to doubt the veracity of the “let us stay” claim(s) I’ve never heard of these folk before today but one element definitely doesn’t add up! .. Both are in their 40s, have been here over 14 years worked , paid taxes .. ect ..ect .. ect .. YET came here on STUDENT visas .. I assumed, without knowing! .. that “student” visas are issued to ‘young” folk for the purpose of furthering their education not settling in, marriage, kids and work .. but what would I know .. FFS!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11169309/Velleyen-Family-Migrant-couple-deported-visa-technicality-Jobs-crisis.html

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 2, 2022 9:35 am

Why would Dutton appear at the job summit? It doesn’t have anything to do with him.

Indeed.
Yet Team Albo trolled invited him to attend.

Win-win retail politics for Albo.

Accept: Be neutered when the hidden Labor agenda is plopped out on the table: ‘well, FFS, you were part of the consultation/compromise’; or

Refuse: couple of political rounds clicked into the magazine for later use: ‘well, FFS, you had the opportunity to be part of the consultation/compromise’;

Unsurprisingly, Dutton had no difficulty spotting the ACME Anvil hanging on the fraying rope:

Mr Dutton has received a letter formally inviting him to attend, but has labelled the event a “stunt with the unions”.

“We will support all sorts of good policy from the government, we’ve demonstrated that. But we’re not going to support stunts,” he said in Brisbane on Wednesday.

He noted the letter had been leaked to the media shortly after it was sent to him.

The Theatre of Cunning Stunts as government.

Cassie of Sydney
September 2, 2022 9:39 am

“Dawson’s mouthpiece started bleating about ‘deaf freats’ before he had been in jail 24 hours.
He would have been in assessment and locked up in a single cell.
Maybe a bit of harsh banter from across the way but, other than that, the claims are 93.1% bullshit.
What we have here is a bloke who has spent his life controlling people, either by bullying or through their misplaced adulation of him.
He is now in a place where he has virtually zero control.
And he doesn’t like it.
Jail is a shit place.
If you don’t want to go there, don’t kill people.”

Yep. What’ll be interesting is to see what ensues now that the brothers have been separated. Paul Dawson, on leaving court on Tuesday, became involved in a stoush with the media. I think that they’re both shocked and shattered, emotionally and psychologically. You see, these two twins only love each other, women are chattels for sexual manipulation and gratification.

Chris Dawson has led a good life for forty years, since his wife supposedly “ran off to join a cult”, which of course she didn’t do, she never left that house alive on Sydney’s northern beaches back in January 1982. Forty long years for justice to prevail. He finally got his comeuppance in the end.

johanna
johanna
September 2, 2022 9:43 am

NSW has the best of the many bad options when it comes to compulsory voting – optional preferential. That means you can just vote 1 for your choice, or go on numbering the list and stop whenever you like.

You need to weigh up the risk of just voting for one candidate – your vote may be eliminated entirely if your candidate drops out early. OTOH, you never have to vote for anyone you despise (you can always vote informal if you hate them all.)

The Alaskan system is just Looney Tunes. In what universe do some people get to vote twice, others only once?

Zipster
Zipster
September 2, 2022 9:47 am

What the hell was so bad about the 50’s Zipster?
‘Zactly! The modern world has taught us to appreciate what was once a most enjoyable lifestyle, not as wealthy in moolah but rich in the simple pleasures.

the world has moved on, as it always does, either you steer the ship in a meaningful way or you can sook watching it sail away.

MatrixTransform
September 2, 2022 9:50 am

Geez you lot can post some rubbish

General mUnty strides confidently across the battlefield … I love the smell of Glen20 in the morning

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 2, 2022 9:56 am

But the best thing of all?
It was the allegedly ever reliable, very expensive transfer, uber-flog Tom Lynch.

Should be straight to the pay office to explain why he shouldn’t take a 50% pay cut.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 2, 2022 10:01 am

Ponzi’s back baby! Back.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 2, 2022 10:03 am

Yep. What’ll be interesting is to see what ensues now that the brothers have been separated. Paul Dawson, on leaving court on Tuesday, became involved in a stoush with the media.

Never fear Paul.
If they start digging into your activities with schoolgirls, the twins will be reunited soon enough.

local oaf
September 2, 2022 10:11 am

Cassie of Sydney says:
September 2, 2022 at 7:38 am

I suspect that the only way we will ever get a conservative government again is if compulsory voting is abolished. Either legally abolished, or by enough conservatives simply refusing to vote as they did a few months ago.

This should drive the current Liberal Party out of existence and force its replacement by a genuinely conservative party for which enough of the population would turn out to support.

Compulsory voting might indeed save “right of centre” parties, but today’s Liberal party isn’t right of centre anymore.

P
P
September 2, 2022 10:11 am

Blackmail: activists’ preferred tool
By Monica Doumit – September 1, 2022

Like many other affluent nations, Australia is busy in many sectors – especially education – imposing radical gender ideology on children – and it seems parents have no right to protect them.

johanna
johanna
September 2, 2022 10:13 am

In case anyone still doubts that Boris Johnson is a buffoon:

A man in London had a morning to remember on Wednesday, after waking up to find Britain’s outgoing Prime Minister raiding his home alongside police.

Footage of an apparently extremely baffled man confronting outgoing British Prime Minister Boris Johnson in his own home during a police raid has gone viral online, with the man even videoing himself asking Boris Johnson how he is as police search his residence.

While not the first time Boris Johnson has joined in on police raids, the bizarre incident will be one of his final actions as Prime Minister, as the ousted leader prepares to be replaced by either WEF affiliate Liz Truss or WEF affiliate Rishi Sunak.

According to a report by the Daily Mail, the man who videoed the incident reportedly was woken up early Wednesday morning to police raiding his home.

However, upon opening his bedroom door, the man — named by The Independent as Splinter Sales — found that the UK Prime Minister had accompanied officers into the premises.

A guy snapped Boris Johnson on a raid of his own house? I don’t believe the UK is real sometimes ?? pic.twitter.com/dVVbUn3eDj

— Bilaaaaaal (@bmuhhh) August 31, 2022

Sales proceed to ask the premier “wagwan Boris?”, slang for “what is going on?”, to which Johnson replies — rather sheepishly — “Good morning, how are you doing?”

“I was so shocked,” Sales reportedly said after the encounter. “I was drunk last night, I woke up to see Boris Johnson in my face. I thought I was dreaming.”

Police are reported as finding some class B drugs and paraphernalia during the raid, though no arrests were made, and it is understood that Sales — who reportedly shares the residence — has not been accused of any wrongdoing.

Bizarre.

m0nty
m0nty
September 2, 2022 10:14 am

This should drive the current Liberal Party out of existence and force its replacement by a genuinely conservative party for which enough of the population would turn out to support.

Bold strategy Cotton, but I think it’s worth a shot.

m0nty
m0nty
September 2, 2022 10:18 am

Dark Brandon is delivering a speech attacking what the auto-transcript is calling “Maggie Republicans”, which is a nice touch I think.

duncanm
duncanm
September 2, 2022 10:19 am

Productivity Commission’s just released Draft Report on Aboriginal and Torres Strait Visual Arts and Crafts

good to see the Productivity Commission is doing useful work.

Sack them all.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 2, 2022 10:20 am

H B Bearsays:

September 2, 2022 at 9:56 am

But the best thing of all?
It was the allegedly ever reliable, very expensive transfer, uber-flog Tom Lynch.

Should be straight to the pay office to explain why he shouldn’t take a 50% pay cut.

Bewdiful.
He’s the master of the “stray forearm spoil” if beaten for a mark.
Also scores a lot of frees for being “pushed out” (ie diving).
Fell orf me chair laffin’ when the big sook missed it.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 2, 2022 10:23 am

October surprise…
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/albanese-to-act-on-queue-of-1-million-migrants-20220902-p5bet8.html
The federal government will increase the permanent migration intake from 160,000 to 195,000 places this year – a record- and speed up visas for foreign workers after Prime Minister Anthony Albanese warned of a backlog of one million people waiting for their applications to be decided.

The new work on the visa rules will be a key outcome in the final sessions of the government’s Jobs and Skills Summit in Parliament House along with a consensus on lifting the permanent migration intake.

I am of the opinion both lab and lib see migration as the best/only way to stave off recessions caused by their never ending meddling.

They really, really hate the people already here, despise them.
The people who remember Australia before the urban bugman reigned supreme.
When government jobsworths were poorly paid, looked down upon and largely ignored by most of society.
A time when politics was much more peripheral to 90% of peoples lives and you could generally trust that pollies were actually trying to improve things for ordinary people.

Long time ago now.

Roger
Roger
September 2, 2022 10:25 am

Another defenestration in Moscow I see.

Putin is a very traditional man.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 2, 2022 10:27 am
Roger
Roger
September 2, 2022 10:29 am

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese warned of a backlog of one million people waiting for their applications to be decided.

Who, oddly, were of no concern to Albanese prior to the election.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 2, 2022 10:31 am

Pushing the trolley shopping alongside Mrs TE in Newport News today, and spotted elk mince, and who knew – Albanese brand gummi bears.

Elbow certainly gets around, and no, did not try the mince. These Americans!

Zipster
Zipster
September 2, 2022 10:31 am

as the ousted leader prepares to be replaced by either WEF affiliate Liz Truss or WEF affiliate Rishi Sunak.

there you have it, somewhere in the last decade the right has ceased to exist

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
September 2, 2022 10:32 am

Dr Faustus says:
September 2, 2022 at 7:27 am
Russian oil firm chief Maganov dies after hospital window fall

Some like windows and mysterious illnesses.

Some prefer bicycles and trucks.

2 State Department employees have died this summer while riding bicycles

The recent death of a U.S. diplomat marks the second time a State Department employee was killed this summer while riding a bike.

In a news release on Friday, the Montgomery County Sheriff’s Office said they were called to the scene on Aug. 25 just after 4 p.m. after a flatbed truck struck a bicyclist.

According to ABC News and FOX News, Langenkamp served as a diplomat at the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv, Ukraine.

According to the news outlets, Shawn O’Donnell, a Foreign Service Officer, died on July 20 after being struck by a Mack cement truck in D.C.

Zipster
Zipster
September 2, 2022 10:33 am

A time when politics was much more peripheral to 90% of peoples lives and you could generally trust that pollies were actually trying to improve things for ordinary people.

they ran out of ordinary people and moved on to the clinically insane

Cassie of Sydney
September 2, 2022 10:35 am

“Long time ago now.”

A different country. Gone.

Roger
Roger
September 2, 2022 10:37 am

Eat the rich:

Malcolm Turnbull heckled and forced to abandon a speech at Sydney University yesterday.

All those billions watsed on their agenda and they still hate you, Malcolm.

custard
custard
September 2, 2022 10:48 am

Hecklers are yelling FJB to the pResident

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
September 2, 2022 10:49 am

Long time ago now.

1965?

Megan
Megan
September 2, 2022 10:52 am

If voting was not compulsory the Liberals would disappear in a whiff of smoke.

If the SFL party took the time to address the reasons 8-12% of the voting population did not turn up at all in May and combined it with research into the 5% a pox on the lot of you informal votes they might get enough of a clue to get back in the game.

Pity they are determined to self destruct.

Lysander
Lysander
September 2, 2022 10:55 am

What exactly is Russian disinformation? And why, only, Russia?

There are literally thousands of organisations across the world, and tens of countries, that spread disinformation on the US daily/hourly.

If DB applied the alphabet agencies’ rule here, Munted would be banned for spreading disinformation, like “Trump appointed Reinhart” (and plenty more all-time favourite hits from the best selling FaceRake album).

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 2, 2022 10:56 am

On compulsory voting my opinion it is undemocratic. However if it has to be then like the above stated OPV. My vote ma be formal in the HOR again if the case.

Speaking of stunts at the lefts summit. Claire bringing her kid on stage whose future she just sold out with affirming the population ponzi…

Roger
Roger
September 2, 2022 10:57 am

Yeah, I saw Dr Faustus report, but why should we reckon its FSB?

Because Putin is a bully living in an echo chamber who brooks no dissent as he demands – in the words of one Russian journalist with ties to the Kremlin, but now living abroad -“aggressive submission” from the Russian people.

In such a climate, defenestreating a prominent dissenter sends a reinforcing message to others.

m0nty
m0nty
September 2, 2022 10:58 am

Yeah, I saw Dr Faustus report, but why should we reckon its FSB? Could be a gambling debt. Could be nefarious business dealings gone wrong. That might also explain the earlier mentioned incident. I’m not sure why mild criticism of current events would motivate the FSB to throw someone out of a window unless he was involved in something more serious behind the scenes.

If only Stalin knew!

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 2, 2022 11:10 am

Another defenestration in Moscow I see.

Beautiful wordcraft Sir!

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 2, 2022 11:14 am

Six months out from the next NSW election the unions – see rail and nurses, teachers next? – striking like two year old brats in the supermarket.

johanna
johanna
September 2, 2022 11:15 am

Just went outside and the Aboriginal flag is back, albeit below the much larger Aussie flag.

Do Da Bruvvers employ a full time vexillologist, or what?

Oh, and is anyone asking where all these new migrants are going to live, while Australians who lost their homes in the floods are living in tents and/or their cars? While the rental vacancy rate is below 1% in many places? While builders are going broke with partly completed projects because of supply chain issues and inflation?

I know. Details, details.

It’s like trying to have a sensible discussion about the future of electricity supply. Those who question the practicalities are assailed as ‘not seeing the big picture’ at best, and right wing conspiracy theorists at worst.

How come the alleged advocates for the poor, like ACOSS, are not up in arms?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 2, 2022 11:15 am

Flyingduk,
I had this exact same conversation yesterday. The person I was talking with is extremely knowledgeable about what has been going on but was like you harsh about Campbell.

His latest on pregnancy I mentioned earlier.

If Campbell had gone hard like some suggest he would basically have got the YouTube strikes and been shut down.

He has got a lot of information out there and explained it in a concise manner. I think he has done a great job.

“scales pulled from his eyes. It must be painful for a person who is obviously so invested in being ‘nice’, trusting the ‘authorities’ and ‘doing the right thing’ to keep everybody ‘safe’”

Roger
Roger
September 2, 2022 11:15 am

I imagine that this style of conservative leader is aiming to please a different audience.

I rather imagine he expected to be welcomed by students throwing rose petals.

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 2, 2022 11:15 am

Nothing more sinistre than a plunge from a fenestre in the morning.

m0nty
m0nty
September 2, 2022 11:16 am

Keep us updated johanna, this is compelling stuff.

Roger
Roger
September 2, 2022 11:17 am

If only Stalin knew!

And Elbow has the worker’s back.

johanna
johanna
September 2, 2022 11:20 am

Productivity Commission’s just released Draft Report on Aboriginal and Torres Strait Visual Arts and Crafts

Another institution infiltrated and taken over.

For many years, the PC was bristling with hard nosed economists who completely ignored social trends and just stuck to doing the numbers. As you can imagine, they accumulated many powerful enemies over the years.

Looks like it is all over.

Winston Smith
September 2, 2022 11:21 am

HBBear:

News.com.au has always been a cesspit of adolescent progressivism.

A dumping ground.

A used and abused condom thrown onto the parcel tray of the EV for six months and left in the sun to ferment the next generation of Wokesters.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 2, 2022 11:24 am

No place for PC politics of cultural ownership

HENRY ERGAS

“Aboriginal art”, wrote Margaret Preston in 1941, is not merely “great art”; it is “the natural heritage of the Australian artist who can, from this work, produce a national art like none other in the world”. And that, of course, is what she sought to do, drawing on Aboriginal pigments and patterns to cast this country’s beauty in a new light.

Does this mean that Albert Namatjira must be cancelled for culturally appropriating the European style of painting?

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 2, 2022 11:24 am

either you steer the ship in a meaningful way or you can sook watching it sail away.
Give us your formula for saving the USA, or Australia for that matter.
What does one do when the electoral process is gamed if not outright subverted, and all the institutions have been taken over, including much of the judiciary, nearly all the media, and nearly all the educational institutions.
What’s it to be, Zip?
Placards, protest marches, cunning politics, Pinochetian takeover (both the Biden Push and characters like Erdogan have feared that one and taken countermeasures) or civil war?

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
September 2, 2022 11:24 am

Cattalaxy Word Game., for chatters with nothing better to do. Second Prize is a ”box of matches”. First Prize is Govt Printed copy of the “Uluru Statement from the Heart”.

PM Anthony Albanese has the potential to be Australias greatest…….?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 2, 2022 11:32 am

Greatest is very hard to square up with Elbow.

Potential to be Australia’s only PM who disappeared without a search.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 2, 2022 11:34 am

m0ntysays:
September 2, 2022 at 10:18 am
Dark Brandon is delivering a speech attacking what the auto-transcript is calling “Maggie Republicans”, which is a nice touch I think.

Seems that the geriatric, senile, old fool Creepy Joe can’t even read the acronym “MAGA” off his screen. And m0nty-fa does his best to make it sound like a brilliant move.

eric hinton
eric hinton
September 2, 2022 11:36 am

PM Anthony Albanese has the potential to be Australia’s greatest

chance of seeing Leak Jnr outstrip Leak Snr.

shatterzzz
September 2, 2022 11:38 am

How come the alleged advocates for the poor, like ACOSS, are not up in arms?

Cos, like all of these taxpayer funded operations the staff are NOT poor .. LOL!

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 2, 2022 11:39 am

Rogersays:
September 2, 2022 at 11:17 am
If only Stalin knew!

And Elbow has the worker’s back.

And a dagger in his hand.

shatterzzz
September 2, 2022 11:40 am

PM Anthony Albanese has the potential to be Australia’s greatest
publically known “houso” .. LOL!

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
September 2, 2022 11:42 am

You people forget that Elbow does support ” hard’ working Thai’s….

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
September 2, 2022 11:43 am

Great stuff shatterzzz……Keep ’em comin folks.

Roger
Roger
September 2, 2022 11:49 am

PM Anthony Albanese has the potential to be Australias greatest…….?

Mediocrity in public life.

The Arthur Calwell of the prog-left.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 2, 2022 11:50 am

A recent article at Postliberal Order referred to work by a group of economists that tied the remarkable rise in ‘deaths of despair’ (suicide, drug overdoses, and the like) to the repeal of blue laws. Now, the conservatives of the last 40 years would have found reinstituting these laws anathema, but I think they should reconsider, not only because of what is posited above.

It is a huge part of the breakdown.
Previously a ‘day of rest” with sport/ worship (if you did those) and a day of family.
Now they chuck sport on to maximize eyes on screen and “all Woolies open all the time” keep the hamsters running.

johanna
johanna
September 2, 2022 11:50 am

Does this mean that Albert Namatjira must be cancelled for culturally appropriating the European style of painting?

The whole thing is absurd. Can you imagine the disputes between Aboriginal communities and tribal groups about who owns what? How could they possibly be resolved?

It is just another recipe for litigation and division. No wonder lawyers are in favour.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 2, 2022 11:51 am

Jo,
That is a point I always bring up about the current proposals for immigration. Get fish*look in reply.

*Eyes glaze over, mouth opens and closes with no sound coming out.

Roger
Roger
September 2, 2022 11:52 am

And the line, “in the words of one Russian journalist with ties to the Kremlin” is too close to ‘in the words of one unnamed source with ties to the Pentagon/WH/ DoJ’ for me to give it much credence.

Andrei Kolesnikov.

A veteran Russian journalist whose brother is a Kremlin speechwriter.

I think that background lends his account a modicum of credence, at least.

Vagabond
Vagabond
September 2, 2022 11:52 am

Malcolm Turnbull heckled and forced to abandon a speech at Sydney University yesterday.

All those billions wasted on their agenda and they still hate you, Malcolm.

The article in the Oz describing this has comments disabled. I wonder why? Comments would have been a terrific schadenfreud-fest to keep us warm in this time of malignant stupidity and incipient energy poverty.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 2, 2022 11:54 am

Best Covid Vax comedy ever ! If gong to listen to or watch anything today this is the one.

You must go onto YouTube and go to Russell Brand. Listen to the clip Hang on, it was only tested on what !

Funniest Vax clip ever heard but he nails all the important points. The theme is mouse data ! Manages to quote experts while doing it.

Lysander
Lysander
September 2, 2022 11:55 am

“Mr Unity” Creepy Joe this evening:

“Donald Trump and MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundation of our republic”

Hyperbolic, much?

By “extremism” he means there’ll be more months of burning down cities if he’s elected.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 2, 2022 11:56 am

Big_Nambas:
September 2, 2022 at 9:07 am

test

Remember Doverlord’s drinking challenge every time someone posts “test”…

Dot
Dot
September 2, 2022 11:56 am

For many years, the PC was bristling with hard nosed economists who completely ignored social trends and just stuck to doing the numbers. As you can imagine, they accumulated many powerful enemies over the years.

Looks like it is all over.

It used to have a fantastic reputation.

The first crack that appeared was the hit job on the LDP. That analysis had no substance whatsoever.

Roger
Roger
September 2, 2022 12:00 pm

Second day of spring and it’s so cold and damp we’ve got the fire going.

Presently 8.2c below the long term average in what is historically a sunny & dry time of year in these parts.

Zipster
Zipster
September 2, 2022 12:00 pm

either you steer the ship in a meaningful way or you can sook watching it sail away.

Give us your formula for saving the USA, or Australia for that matter.
What does one do when the electoral process is gamed if not outright subverted, and all the institutions have been taken over, including much of the judiciary, nearly all the media, and nearly all the educational institutions.
What’s it to be, Zip?
Placards, protest marches, cunning politics, Pinochetian takeover (both the Biden Push and characters like Erdogan have feared that one and taken countermeasures) or civil war?

the first thing the right needs is a vision for the future. it doesn’t have one, if there is one, someone point me to it. looking longingly in the rear view mirror isn’t going to lead anyone anywhere.

Winston Smith
September 2, 2022 12:09 pm

Diogenes:

An interesting chat on whether the tank is really dead in the context of what is going on in the Ukraine, and put into historical context.

It comes down to doctrine and whether it is being followed.
But I did notice the Russians appear to be heading into the Kampfgruppe area with command being localised to that ad hoc formation.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 2, 2022 12:13 pm

Shane Gillis talking to Joe Rogan about Mar-a-Lago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFdom0lkd-0

His story has changed a little bit.
On his podcast his said he was the guest of another billionaire.
Now he says he was invited in via the staff of Mar-a-Lago.
Maybe the place isn’t that secure after all ?

Kneel
Kneel
September 2, 2022 12:16 pm

“Surely there were other jurisdictions that would have been friendlier.”

Not sure, but I think you basically get to choose between where it happened and where you live.
If he lives in DC…

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 2, 2022 12:18 pm

Nostalgia is now verboten!

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 2, 2022 12:19 pm

But the USA will be saved by The Vision Thing.
Right.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 2, 2022 12:22 pm

ABC 774 hosting an EV forum complete with plug-in totalitarian leftist zealots.
Mandatory targets, complete bans on ICE sales, no go zones, punitive taxes and on and on.
A sickening display of the vile misanthropic nature of eco warriors.
It’s a global warming of the un-batteried

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 2, 2022 12:23 pm

Via Tim Blair:
Rugby league star Christian Welch has taken a brutal swipe at Peter FitzSimons for his hypocritical stance on Australian golfer Cam Smith signing with Saudi-backed LIV Golf tour.

Smith’s shift to the breakaway golf league is reportedly earning him $140 million – something the former Wallaby, author and husband of TV host Lisa Wilkinson slammed as “blood money” in a recent column.

But the Melbourne Storm prop, who has a Bachelor of Commerce and is completing his MBA, pointed out that FitzSimons recently appeared in an advertising campaign for the food delivery app Uber Eats, which Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman is a major investor in.
“It’s okay for you to profit (albeit indirectly) from the Saudi investment fund but not a golfer?” Welch shared on Twitter.

“Same money funding LIV invested in Uber, Boeing & Starbucks. Are you complicit when you get a ride home or a cappuccino? How far does it go? I don’t recall the same outrage at those companies, but dare a golfer accept the cash on offer.”

Lysander
Lysander
September 2, 2022 12:24 pm

DB – That’s a very scary picture of Biden with white, black and extreme red highlights behind him.

White, red, black…. hmm I wonder which leader of a country highlighted those colours before?

johanna
johanna
September 2, 2022 12:24 pm

A bit of heavy metal joy – Hell’s Bells live by AC/DC in 1991.

Music and theatre melded. It may have started when Pink Floyd floated a huge pig over one of their live concerts years before.

Floyd – political prats, musical geniuses.

Sigh. That is the way of the world.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 2, 2022 12:28 pm

“Donald Trump and MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundation of our republic”

Didn’t his press-poppet explain (as one would to children) that if you think differently to most people, you are an extremist?

How many people think the aphasic, syphlytic, splenetic, geriatric old goat is doing a good job. She is an extremist!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 2, 2022 12:28 pm

I love it when a triumphant science study inadvertently highlights something the Left doesn’t want you to know about.

Safe sea crossings for electric vehicles and more (Phys.org, 1 Sep)

…there are particular conditions associated with traveling at sea, such as the sea state, salt levels and humidity of the air, cramped spaces and closed vehicle decks. This, in combination with the particular characteristics of and risks associated with alternative fueled vehicles, means that shipping companies and ship crews must be prepared for certain challenges.

Ok, so if they are pursuing safe sea crossings for EVs that means sea crossings for EVs currently are not safe? Hmmm. “Certain challenges”? Hmmmm. That’s true: at least a couple of ships have had big fires and one sank.

The study also mentions a fire on a Baltic car ferry. So having EVs on car ferries is a risk that the whole ship will burn? Oops, don’t think the public is going to like that idea much. Nor insurance companies.

This new EV age is going to be entertaining. All those car transporters catching fire and sinking as they try to ship millions of the things from China to green woke western countries. And car ferries getting exothermically exitable. I’m sad for the poor sailors though.

Roger
Roger
September 2, 2022 12:32 pm

Mandatory targets, complete bans on ICE sales, no go zones, punitive taxes and on and on.

The 1 percent speaks.

Zipster
Zipster
September 2, 2022 12:32 pm

Nostalgia is now verboten!

You can be as nostalgic as you want, it isn’t a recipe for dealing with a rapidly changing society.

Roger
Roger
September 2, 2022 12:33 pm

We await the response of the 99% with considerable interest.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
September 2, 2022 12:33 pm

Row over plans to rename ‘racist’ 350-year-old Black Bitch pub ‘The Willow Tree’ set to be decided by Scottish government

The pub in Linlithgow, West Lothian is set to be rebranded as The Willow Tree by brewers Greene King over fears that the existing name could be seen to be racist.

But more than 500 objections have been submitted and 11,000 have signed a petition to stop the move, with many locals and historians arguing that the ‘Black Bitch’, which refers to a local legend about a black female greyhound, has been associated with the town for hundreds of years.

It has now emerged that Greene King have turned to the government to have their proposed name change rubber-stamped, after West Lothian Council deferred the planning decision.

According to Greene King, councillors want to encourage heritage bosses to include the pub name in a protected listing to avoid the name change.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 2, 2022 12:33 pm

And car ferries getting exothermically exitable.

I am just waiting for the first EV to catch fire in a shopping centre car park especially one using the chargers where 5 or 6 other EVs are charging.

Kneel
Kneel
September 2, 2022 12:34 pm

“Interested in people’s thoughts. “

I tend to agree Cassie, but I’d like to have the “opt-out” – that is, you have to say that for a specified amount of time, say 1 year, that you may decide not to vote. You still can vote, but you wouldn’t risk being fined if you didn’t. And it “times out” after some maximum time so that you need to keep renewing it if you don’t want to vote. It still requires effort to avoid it on your part, but not as much as either attending to vote or getting a postal vote prior, and you don’t need to worry if you forget an election (local,state etc) when going overseas or interstate, for example – it’s “pre-arranged” that you are likely not to vote.

eric hinton
eric hinton
September 2, 2022 12:35 pm

Country hour market report.

Scribe attended the Santa Gertrudis sale at Talgai Homestead on the Darling Downs. The house is built around a courtyard centred on a trellis of (grape?) vines that must look pretty speccy in summer. Temporary yards were set up on lawns flanked by Bunya Pines, and the auction was held on the verandah which overlooks some flat rich dirt to the Main Range (?) in the east.

The do had an air of cut throat gentility; think Flemington with bigger hats minus young women in fascinators falling out of their outfits into the roses…. 47 bulls sold to a top of $160,000 and averaged $17,570. Crowd does like a big animal these days and isn’t put off by sprayer tractor physiognomy. Scribe’s top pick went for $18,000 and pick for wormy scrubber went for $6,000. Crowd thought three lots not worth a bid.

duncanm
duncanm
September 2, 2022 12:35 pm

A nice excoriation of Rishi Sunak’s extraordinary claim that he was always against lockdowns in the UK, by Neil Oliver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTA90R9FMoQ

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
September 2, 2022 12:39 pm

The water crisis in Jackson, Mississippi, has gotten so bad, the city temporarily ran out of bottled water to give to residents

(CNN)Recent torrential rain coupled with years of water system issues have resulted in a crisis in Jackson, Mississippi, where the city doesn’t have enough water to fight fires, flush toilets or even hand out to residents in need.

Cassie of Sydney
September 2, 2022 12:48 pm

“The water crisis in Jackson, Mississippi, has gotten so bad, the city temporarily ran out of bottled water to give to residents”

A city run by Democrats. The city’s mayor is a hard-left progressive activist named Chokwe Antar Lumumba.

Progressivism in action.

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 2, 2022 12:49 pm

Under no circumstances refer to the 1950s as quite pleasant.
To do so is to suggest them as a remedy to the world’s ills.

Zipster
Zipster
September 2, 2022 12:49 pm

But the USA will be saved by The Vision Thing.
Right.

If the words bother you, then look at this way. Conservatives have no roadmap for where the country should go. No plan. No big ideas. No way of dealing with rapid technological change and cultural change. Should culture change in response to technological change, almost certainly.

Technology isn’t slowing, cultural change isn’t slowing. If you are waiting for the church to revive the past good luck with that. The left have this Utopian ideal draped in grandiose virtuosity. It may total BS, but what does the right offer? A resistance to change? A little rear view mirror we can romanticise?

Zatara
Zatara
September 2, 2022 12:50 pm

“Joe Biden’s address in Philadelphia tonight is one of the most menacing, bitter, angry and divisive speeches in modern US political history. Hard to believe that a US president can stoop to this level, condemning tens of millions of Americans as enemies and a threat to democracy.”

The phrasing was what you would expect in a dictatorship preparing the ground for persecution and purge.

“MAGA Republicans…embrace anger. They thrive on chaos. They live not in the light of truth but in the shadow of lies.”

Watch it. Remember it. Understand that Joe Biden is trying to provoke conflict, he wants it, his handlers want it. They launched this campaign about a month ago. It’s calculated.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 2, 2022 12:51 pm

Sancho Hitler at 10.03:

Never fear Paul.
If they start digging into your activities with schoolgirls, the twins will be reunited soon enough.

Almost certainly an existing avenue of enquiry by half-decent detectives, already stung by the justified criticism of their counterparts from 40 years earlier.

Wouldn’t be the first time a ‘spin-off’ investigation lands a peripheral fish from an earlier enquiry.

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 2, 2022 12:52 pm

Still waiting for your “recipe for dealing with a rapidly changing society.”
Come on. Don’t be shy.
Give us your “way of dealing with rapid technological change and cultural change.”
Go.

johanna
johanna
September 2, 2022 12:52 pm

Jackson, Mississippi votes solidly Democrat, always has. Every single time.

It’s time somebody reminded them – ‘what have you got to lose?’

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 2, 2022 12:54 pm

johanna’s quoted piece from 10.13:

While not the first time Boris Johnson has joined in on police raids, the bizarre incident will be one of his final actions as Prime Minister, as the ousted leader prepares to be replaced by either WEF affiliate Liz Truss or WEF affiliate Rishi Sunak.

Hang on.

I distinctly remember being informed that Boris was a tough, wily character who would survive in the role for years, and that both his resignation and the fight to replace him were red herrings for the dumb commoners.

Zipster
Zipster
September 2, 2022 12:54 pm

I am just waiting for the first EV to catch fire in a shopping centre car park especially one using the chargers where 5 or 6 other EVs are charging.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le6KNI9YsH0

Lysander
Lysander
September 2, 2022 12:56 pm

Yup. Biden keeps poking the bear in the hope that some crazed MAGA person will bomb or shoot something so he can enforce a police state and/or keep power.

There’s no other explanation for calling 73,000,000 Americans “extreme semi fascists” – other than him being a desperate despot clinging onto power by his fingernails.

Kneel
Kneel
September 2, 2022 12:56 pm

“When Trump won in 2016, could we construe that as meaning the Hilderbeest’s voters were in the minority? Were they extremists?”

Of course not!
Trump’s won because of Russian interference, making him illegitimate, and obviously not representative of US voters. Duh!
But Biden though – you can’t question THAT election, it was the “most secure in history” and don’t you forget it! The public servants said so, and they’re not partisan – how could they be when DC voted 90+% for Biden?

Lysander
Lysander
September 2, 2022 12:57 pm

Why would Biden choose a very dark stage offset by deep, blood reds?

Surely, a Kleptocrapt would choose blue, right?

Cassie of Sydney
September 2, 2022 12:59 pm

I think the US is heading towards civil war.

Lysander
Lysander
September 2, 2022 1:00 pm

Indeed Cassie.

Purposefully.

While Chyna sits back and laughs.

Dot
Dot
September 2, 2022 1:04 pm

Trump probably won a majority of votes.

The absurdly Democrat favoured “black vote” and “latino vote” is probably highly rigged and has been for a long time – latinos may even vote majority republican.

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 2, 2022 1:05 pm

I think the US is heading towards civil war.

It has been for a while. It just hasn’t gone kinetic yet.

johanna
johanna
September 2, 2022 1:06 pm

Nancy Sinatra and Lee Hazelwood of the Magnificent Baritone did a song about Jackson, which was apparently a glittering city to their listeners.

Roger
Roger
September 2, 2022 1:07 pm

While Chyna sits back and laughs.

I wouldn’t be too mirthful if I were Mr. Xi.

China is itself a potential powder keg of civil discontent.

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 2, 2022 1:07 pm

Just watched Tucker Carlson’s show – after making fun of various Admin characters he had to admit at the end that Joe Biden’s speech was pretty frightening.
Yep, Joe and the cabal that back him have a Vision Thing all right.
Nurse Jill looked pretty perky – she must have had a shot of “whatever he’s having”.

m0nty
m0nty
September 2, 2022 1:09 pm

Albo has the chance to be Australia’s greatest drover’s dog. If the Libs persist in putting up hopeless OLs like Dutton against him, he could rule for life.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 2, 2022 1:11 pm

“Aboriginal art”, wrote Margaret Preston in 1941, is not merely “great art”; it is “the natural heritage of the Australian artist who can, from this work, produce a national art like none other in the world”

Dear oh dear, do try to keep up …. great art now consists of an upturned rubbish bin or a crucifix smothered in dogshit ….

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 2, 2022 1:12 pm

Albo has the chance to be Australia’s greatest drover’s dog.

Don’t worry, he’ll find a way to fuck it up.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 2, 2022 1:16 pm

I think the US is heading towards civil war.

I think its pretty obvious the governments of the west have been at war with their own people for over 2 years now – Exhibit A:

Censorship
Propaganda
Violent suppression of dissent
Closed borders, document checks, travel controls
War emergency control of the economy
Uniformed men in the streets of our capitals
Armoured vehicles in the streets

some people are scared this will end in civil war, I am scared it won’t…..

duncanm
duncanm
September 2, 2022 1:16 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:
September 2, 2022 at 12:51 pm
Sancho Hitler at 10.03:

Never fear Paul.
If they start digging into your activities with schoolgirls, the twins will be reunited soon enough.

Almost certainly an existing avenue of enquiry by half-decent detectives, already stung by the justified criticism of their counterparts from 40 years earlier.

JC has stated in interviews with the MSM that Paul had a harem of schoolgirls, and JC herself was passed around between the twins.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 2, 2022 1:20 pm

Exhibit B:

Covid was merely a ‘target of opportunity’ … the real targets in war are the food, the fuel, the electricity grid and the transport system…..

Are these ringing any bells now?

johanna
johanna
September 2, 2022 1:23 pm

Eyrie says:
September 2, 2022 at 1:05 pm

I think the US is heading towards civil war.

It has been for a while. It just hasn’t gone kinetic yet.

Oh, FFS, people here have been having erections at the prospect of another USA civil war going back to the beginnings of Sinc’s site.

Safe from any of the direct consequences, and devoid of understanding of US politics, they are thrilled by the prospect of our best military, political and cultural ally descending into civil war.

They love the idea of the USA being split into warring factions – literally. It feeds their wargaming fantasies. It also illustrates that they have no idea about the reality of how the USA works.

Now and then, this beyond stupid nonsense crops up here.

It may be possible to find a worse way to ruin a country and its people than civil war, so tell us what it is.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 2, 2022 1:26 pm

Monty places the kiss of death on Elbow.

If the Libs persist in putting up hopeless OLs like Dutton against him, he could rule for life.
..
Elbow confirmed to die of arse cancer within the term of government…

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 2, 2022 1:28 pm

(CNN)Recent torrential rain coupled with years of water system issues have resulted in a crisis in Jackson, Mississippi, where the city doesn’t have enough water to fight fires, flush toilets or even hand out to residents in need.

Torrential rains create water shortage.
Only in a “progressive” run city would this be possible.
Yes, I know that floods can spoil water quality, but here they’re even saying there isn’t water to flush dunnies or hose a fire.

Lysander
Lysander
September 2, 2022 1:30 pm

johanna
I don’t think it is likely but nor do I think it some far fetched possibility.

I’ve never seen the US so split ever before. Not just its citizenry but also in some of the people who work across various government and non-government organisations.

And, yes, while I think it very unlikely, it’ll only take a few more years as the new green deal bites… and then we’ll see how unlikely. Deprive people of power, water, food for a few days and let’s see what you get…

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 2, 2022 1:30 pm

I am just waiting for the first EV to catch fire in a shopping centre car park especially one using the chargers where 5 or 6 other EVs are charging.

Zippy,
I left out one word…. Undercover/underground…
As in undercover car park , it will be epic, especially as, around here, they are all positioned very favourably vis a vis entrances, and unless there is a proper firewall some shops are going be very very singed.

duncanm
duncanm
September 2, 2022 1:30 pm

Zatarasays:
September 2, 2022 at 12:50 pm
“Joe Biden’s address in Philadelphia tonight is one of the most menacing, bitter, angry and divisive speeches in modern US political history. Hard to believe that a US president can stoop to this level, condemning tens of millions of Americans as enemies and a threat to democracy.”

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkBRANDON/

  1. The clip of Kate parked on the bench is real. Note the usually impeccable lass has her left-side fringe covering…

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