We are governed by absolute lunatics.
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God “knows himself” completely without us and, unlike us, he is perfect, so there is nothing we can add to…
Already hit $17,500!
Such a brilliant aircraft, Lizzie. However, it turns out the commercial aviation industry didn’t want bigger planes, but smaller planes…
Should start to get interesting in the next couple hours as the Sun goes down. NSW wholesale electricity price is…
Thanks rickw for the heads up on the licence renewals.
An intellectual is a person who’s found one thing that’s more interesting than sex.
– Aldous Huxley
No one said give the girl a free pass.
“LOL! When?”
LOL! When…the likes of Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan walked the earth. They didn’t succumb to a child named Samantha Smith pleading for nuclear disarmament and writing letters to Soviet leaders.
Thanks rickw for the heads up on the licence renewals.
What’s interesting is that they acknowledge that Australia Post regular service is unreliable. Requesting renewals be returned by either registered post or by email. Despite this, they issue out renewals via Australia Post regular service.
Clearly the Europeans have always been aware of their vulnerability to the possibility of Russia turning off the gas.
I’m guessing that the average European had no idea where there “heating” was coming from and didn’t care until they were told it might not be available shortly! .. like the rest of us .. did any of us think about coal fired power plants until we were told what will happen once they aren’t available …
I thought Monty was referring to Julio Iglesias. Wtf is Coolio?
An intellectual is a person who’s found one thing that’s more interesting than sex.
The answer would help .. asking for a friend .. LOL!
I thought Monty was referring to Julio Iglesias. Wtf is Coolio?
Thank God! .. I was starting to worry I was the only one who had never heard of the bloke . (I’m assuming his pronouns!) ..
I’m guessing from the media waffle he had passed the “aspiring” stage before expiring .. LOL!
Interesting article, over on “Quadrant” about Bob Hawke – the “Little Aussie Battler”, remember him? and his links to a certain businessman..
They going to give clot shots to 6 month olds. Criminals.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/pfizer-covid-vaccine-approved-for-all-children-aged-over-six-months-old/ar-AA12neg4?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=5515ac2313364a1b8aed9f28bd653906
Agree they did it with class and humour not copying the mob.
Hilarious, feminist shedding crocodile tears over the exploitation of prostitutes but a dumb girl is fare game.
How financially corrupt was Bob Hawke in his ACTU and Parliamentary careers and in retirement? Anyone finishing Troy Bramston’s Bob Hawke, Demons and Destiny. The definitive biography would have to ask that question.
Bramston’s depiction of Hawke both as predator of and magnet for women was covered here. The media pack have also dealt him a ‘Get Out of Jail Free’ card on his shady money affairs, typically unmentioned till now let alone criticised.
Throughout Bramston’s monumental 720-page study, Hawke’s seedy companionship with TNT’s Sir Peter Abeles surfaces across several decades. Abeles was so close to Hawke that in 1974 he seriously asked Hawke to quit Labor to lead a new centrist anti-Whitlam party (p290), bankrolled with Abeles’ $250,000 (today’s coinage: $2.15m). Hawke disclosed the offer in a non-committal way to US Embassy operatives (Others say it was Hawke’s idea)[1] .A pic caption in Bramston’s book sums it all up:
The closest friendship Bob Hawke formed was with businessman Peter Abeles in the 1970s. He provided Hawke with financial support, paid his bills, bailed him out of gambling debts, and supplied him with cars, drinks and women (736).
More at Quadrant
Barrysays:
September 29, 2022 at 1:38 pm
Dr Faustus says:
September 29, 2022 at 12:03 pm
The ENERGY SECURITY BOARD Health of the National Electricity Market report is out today.
It’s a car crash and we’re doomed.
But at least the Albanese Government won’t be able to pretend they weren’t warned, while they sit shocked, listening to hub caps rolling down the road and the clicking of hot metal.
Reliable, low emissions, affordable.
Pick any two.
The Report will likely be a work of Fiction.
Feelthebern:
Can you explain in simple terms what this means? For us with poor understanding of the markets..
If you had legal heroin, people would likely use fentanyl at a much lower rate.
Let alone make weed legal and not tax alcohol and tobacco into the arms of organised crime.
rickwsays:
September 29, 2022 at 12:01 pm
I’m halfway through the renewal process.
It’s worse than you think.
Didn’t the hunchbacked fuckwit recently flog Vic Roads off?
Yup, snap Zulu!
like the rest of us .. did any of us think about coal fired power plants until we were told what will happen once they aren’t available …
A goodly number of people here have been warning about that for years. We aren’t all asleep.
Great minds, Top Ender!
Haven’t seen any sign of alcohol in the arms of organised crime.
Tobacco? Oh boyo boyo boy, organised crime as been into it in a big way for a looong time.
Not happening so much anymore, or perhaps just not as publicised, were mind-boggling busts of illicit cargos of tobacco.
The sheer number of interceptions, & the size of those interceptions, meant the cargos had to be “organised”
Huh? P-p-p-p…privatise?
Re my last – reading further – not related to vehicles, OK. Apologies.
Le
No, because there are many substitutes.
Sanchez, this is the issue. Prohibitionists seem to think you can eliminate use when there’s massive demand by folks willing to kill for a hit combined with truly massive profit margins.
Go figure. There are numbnuts who believe that bullshit. I hope you’re not one of them.
🙂
I see sleepy Joe is calling out to the dead. But maybe he can actually see them. Sure got chilly in here all of a sudden.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11260641/Peta-Credlin-says-Voice-parliament-campaign-brands-no-voters-racist.html
Poll
Do you agree with Peta Credlin that Voice to parliament campaigners are trying to ‘morally shame’ Australians into voting yes?
Yes 95% 241 votes
No 4% 9 votes
Don’t know 2% 4 votes
Armed activists with a coalition of black self-defense groups marched in Austin, Texas over the weekend calling for an end to illegal immigration and demanding that President Biden close the borders.
Some of the activists chanted ‘close the borders’ and ‘take your a** home’ as they marched toward the Texas Capitol in the ‘Second Amendment Unity Walk’ on Saturday.
The march was led by The Elmer ‘Geronimo’ Pratt Pistol & Rifle Gun Club. Their demands also included reparations for descendants of enslaved people and a hate crime bill protecting Black Americans.
After all the slop in the Australian about how “Aboriginal souls will be crushed” if the referendum is defeated?
Amortiser
I thought Monty was referring to Julio Iglesias. Wtf is Coolio?
He had cover version of Julio’s hit; “Yo, to all da skank bitchez I’ve ever loved before…..”
Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
September 29, 2022 at 1:54 pm
Interesting article, over on “Quadrant” about Bob Hawke – the “Little Aussie Battler”, remember him? and his links to a certain businessman..
I’m sorry Zulu, but you seem to have read the article incorrectly. We have been assured by no less a political guru than m0nty-fa that the Liberals are the “maaaaates” of Big Business, and no true Labor supporter could ever have relationships with Big Business such as are purportedly recorded in that article.
Teacher says students in her district pass the super-racist standardized tests because they’re ‘white and not hungry’
If you had legal heroin, people would likely use fentanyl at a much lower rate.
No doubt.
But if you let people smoke weed, have edibles, micro dose on mushrooms & other psychedelics they’re not going to even look at heroin.
The B-52s are to serve until the 2040s or even 2052, which will be a century after the first flight of the B-52.
From when Boeing was an engineering company.
I don’t think those that support drug laws of some sort believe these laws will eliminate use. What they think is that drug laws reduce consumption below the level that probably would exist without drug laws. Of course, it isn’t just drug laws the matter, the prevailing attitude to drug usage matters also.
New Zealand’s prime minister calls freedom of speech on the internet a ‘weapon of war’ at the UN
The problem now isn’t politicians being too close to business.
It’s public servants being too close to business.
They open more doors now.
Politicians (of a certain party) have to now settle for gigs with industry super.
Is that right BJ, munty should have his own blog with insights like that.
Two replies down is time lapse footage.
Tons of people do and it’s a fools errand and another example of the law of unintended c0nsquences. The FBI and every major anti-crime unit has been built up enormously to combat the war on drugs. Those corrupt disgusting organizations have now been turned against the people. If there were no war on drugs, the FBI would be probably 1/3 the size and more focused on finding serial killers, according to American crime series.
I’m not buying that. I’m not so certain that usage would increase all that much although there could be. However, the safety of the drugs would also increase. I didn’t know until recently, most addicts don’t know there’s fentanyl in the crap they buy. It’s used because it’s cheap!
Every single fucking thing about the war on drugs is wrong, wrong and then more wrong.
You mean the nanny state, or rather the Right’s version of a nanny state?
Salvatore:
Doesn’t need to be – it’s all in the hands of disorganised crime.
You can buy a still from China for about $150 and I’d bet they’ve sold many, many, of these things to suburban distillers.
Like having a prohibited drug (heroin) and providing a state sponsored venue to shoot it up?
And noting that you are not permitted to consume a legal product (cigarettes) on those premises.
Precisely, one can think of anything about the Russians, but they are not stupid.
Why would you spend billions on building not one but two pipelines to supply gas to your customers, only to blow them up a few years later to cackle maniacally at their plight?
Counting vulnerability into a commercial decision is standard practice.
If this is going to be the future military practice to disrupt the economy of warring nations then, watch out everywhere.
Sign the Petition:
WILL YOU SIGN?
To New South Wales Members of Parliament,
As a parent and concerned citizen, I want to stand up for children and their parents by opposing NSW independent MP Alex Greenwich’s proposed “equality bill”.
Parents have the right to say no if their children want to “transition” their gender.
How we bring up our children is our business.
But a handful of transgender activists want opposition to their ideology to be made a crime – and for caring parents to be prosecuted and jailed.
These activists aren’t fighting for “equal rights” – they’re fighting to take away parental rights.
They will criminalise parents and counsellors who simply want to protect children from rash decisions to take puberty blockers and submit to sex-change surgery before they’re even 18 years old – and old enough to understand the irreversible and lifelong consequences like sterility or brain impairment.
These laws will even criminalise praying for our kids.
Parents of children, and adults, who suffer unwanted sexual orientation or gender identity issues should be able to seek whatever help they want.
We respectfully call on you to take strong and decisive action to stop Alex Greenwich’s dangerous legislation – as you will be accountable to the people on election day on Saturday, March 25, 2023.
Just let kids be kids.
You’re seriously advocating for legalising heroin? Wow.
Anyway, I denote your use of the word “likely.” Do that mean you don’t know or you just use the word “likely” to back your case?
And, anyway, why stop with heroin Dot? Why not legalise fentanyl to be available at every mart?
I can vision your Libertarian utopia now where anyone can go into Coles and get a family pack of meth. “Oh, it’ll be SO GLORIOUS!!! ” /sarc.
Anyway Dot, over the last 12+ years you and I have gone 22 rounds on this and I still think you’re inconsistent on it, use cherry picked data and that Libertarians are truly Marxists in sheep’s clothing.
Crown Street (Sydney) will be closed on Saturday.
The upside, music & food.
The downside, the last time they did this it caused a traffic disaster in the surrounding area.
Plan accordingly.
Kieran Gilbert looking missubs when Labor cops some criticism from Angus Taylor.
How many of these freaking parasites would you need if drugs were legal?
The ATF has 5,285.
ATF costs about US$1.5 billion a year. Using the same proportion it means the FBI costs $10 billion p.a
Add in another say US$3 billion for other federal agencies involved in the bullshit.
Then there are states.
Add in the cost of folks in jail because they were caught and not involved in any other crime. The cost is huge on the US. Likely we have to same proportions here too.
Get a load of these numbers. It’s staggering.
It’s around $US 140 billion.
Dot, there is no point engaging with Lysander re drugs as they do so in bad faith.
When conservatives talk drugs, they all turn into Ben Shapiro debaters.
Lysander, I read the other day that most addicts have no idea fent is being used in the crap they buy because it’s so cheap. I would assume, yes, people would use much, much less as they would have substitutes and would know what’s in the stuff.
The old slog was “you’ll never never know if you never never go”. Something new needed?
93% of poll respondents say they or their family/friends have been a victim of crime in the NT.:
Have you been impacted by crime in Central Australia?
Yes, several times 45 %
Yes, once 10 %
No 7 %
No, but my family/friends have 14 %
No, but I have been a victim of crime in the Top End 24 %
58 votes
and
“It is at a level never seen before.
“We’re seeing ram raids, we’re seeing assaults, we’re seeing vandalism on multiple occasions every day.
“Last week we had an incident in the Alice Springs Visitor Information Centre where a 61-year-old lady, a tourist, was allegedly king hit by another woman in a completely unprovoked incident.
“It’s the straw that broke the camel’s back from our perspective.”
On Thursday, a man visiting the Red Centre from Tasmania has his sedan stolen within his first 24 hours in Alice Springs.
Last week, a 33-year-old woman was leaving Alice Springs’ Todd Mall when she allegedly had her handbag stolen by a group of youths.
Police said it would be alleged the victim followed the children to the corner of Gregory Terrace and Hartley Street, where she was assaulted.
Alice Springs Community Safety and Social Order members arrested three girls, aged 13, 13 and 15, a short time later.
A 13-year-old has also since been charged with aggravated assault.
NT News
SSRI’s have done more damage to westerners than weed ever has.
But conservatives are changing their turn when it comes to big Pharma since the jabbening.
The new Italian PM gets stuck into Macron
Lol, What’s a Ben Shapiro debater?
It must be difficult for kids to do the right thing when adults in positions of influence, responsibility and power do the wrong thing:
Two chaplains at Sydney’s Knox Grammar have quit the school after relationship.
Luisa Maxwell departed the school first (and has just resigned from Barker), now followed by Reverend Tim Robinson.
Ms Maxwell and Reverend Robinson were both married and she has two children.
Daily Mail.
JC
Every single fucking thing about the war on drugs is wrong, wrong and then more wrong.
See also Prohibition of alcohol in the 1920s US.
140/7300
That’s about 2% of US State and federal spending on the drug war. I wonder how many parasites are employed in the Industry?
A success story.
Fentanyl is a tricky one.
Weaning the punters off will need a lot of resources.
This is why the establishment doesn’t give a shit about fentanyl users.
Yes.
In an article published today in CathNews
Neo-Nazi incidents show ‘need for anti-racist education’
“The presence of Adelaide’s Holocaust Museum within a building that belongs to the Roman Catholic Church is a powerful symbol of the relationship between Jews and Christians in Adelaide.
“It is unique in all the world. The museum is a centre of Holocaust and anti-racist education.
“Partly as a result of the Holocaust, the relationship between Jews and Christians over the past 50 years has deepened profoundly.
“Together we seek ways of cooperating on matters concerned with global violence, ecological destruction and the recognition of different genders and sexualities and First Nations peoples.”
———-
From the Southern Cross – Thursday September 29, 2022
Taking the next step
Held as part of the Season of Creation celebrations in September, the Pilgrimage to Country provided the perfect setting for drawing attention to Pope Francis’ encyclical and to acknowledge the Archdiocese’s support for the Voice to Parliament referendum.
Despite wet conditions more than 40 people attended, representing parishes including Emmaus, Croydon, Blackwood, Tailem Bend, Cabra Community, Victor/Goolwa, Norwood, Salisbury, Aberfoyle Park, and the Adelaide Hills.
Starting from Tarntanyangga/Victoria Square, pilgrims walked along Wakefield Street to the wetlands in the parklands, taking time to reflect at various locations on their importance to First Nations people.
Special guests during the formal proceedings of the afternoon included Corinna Kartinyeri and Leonie McCallum from the Ngarrindgeri nation.
Lol, What’s a Ben Shapiro debater?
Highschool debating tactics.
Pick the one thing out of a whole thought process & concentrate on that to the exclusion of the rest.
Arky does it.
Ben Shapiro does it.
Bern
You buy a bunch of pills from a hamster on the street, that’s really no-one else’s problem but your own as an adult. Kids are a different matter.
Consequences teaches others.
Bern and JC (and dot)
So I “become a NeoCon” who wants a “war on drugs” eh? Nice presumption Bern. Do you do that often? Presumption is the tool of a moron.
I’ll dismantle JC first: The FBI has tens of thousands of agents for a variety of purposes, like, raiding the My Pillow Guy’s home for example. We also all know most criminal agencies have a very “go soft” approach on drug users and so do the courts.
Bern, I don’t take my anti-drug stance from Neocons mate, I take it from my personal experience with those who have had drugs, abused drugs and have died from drugs. Yes don’t worry, I’ve seen the horror of alcohol and tobacco too – so let’s free us more shit for people to kill themselves with!! YAY!
I take my stance from my faith and guys like JPII who teach that it is an aberration to abdicate yourself, your dignity, obligations and your senses to ANY drug. To “check out” on ANY drugs is to live a lie and not confront the reality of your life, your troubles and other responsibilities that you have.
The Church, JPII and the like are not “anti-pleasure” Calvinistas, a couple of glasses of red with a beautiful steak is thoroughly enjoyable. Do you really need to “get off your head?” If you do, you need to ask why?
Do you agree with Peta Credlin that Voice to parliament campaigners are trying to ‘morally shame’ Australians into voting yes?
I have no shame.
And even fewer morals.
I think that’s a Groucho Marx gag.
Meaning of Life
They could of been just trying to educate the boys!
I wonder if Bramston talked to Keating about Hawke.
And will there be a follow up on Keating ? The split with Anita was nasty.
What utter tosh Bern.
Heard of the fallacy: Generalisation?
I’m a conservative and don’t support big pharma.
Lysander, I said at the beginning my comment wasn’t directed to or against you. Your sarc comment reminded me. I never said anything else about you and I don’t even know where you stand on this stuff.
JC – the Neocon statement was for Bern, not you.
Kids are a different matter
This is going to be the biggest issue.
High levels of THC & young brains don’t mix.
How does society have a frame work so you know what you’re buying?
Similar to the alcohol level in booze being on the side of the bottle.
Interesting report:
A Theory About Ancient Israel and Opium May Have Just Been Proved (25 Sep)
There you go, they had the same issues with opiates then as now. Good for pain relief but don’t take too much of it. Pity these days you just about have to tie yourself in knots to get an endone or codeine prescription from a GP.
Re 1, well, let me just say that I don’t think a law eliminates X, I think it reduces its likelihood. Re 2, its hard not to buy given it is implausible that drug taking wouldn’t increase if you made it legal, cheaper, and ‘safer’.
LOL, the state, particularly the liberal state, is always sending messages about what it approves of and what it doesn’t, you just have to look at the ten-fold and above increase in ‘transitioning’ over the last decade to see that.
Lysander- if the FBI was 1/3 of the size it’s criminal nature in going after the pillow guy would likely be less than now. It’s a monstrosity. And the Republicans will do nothing to trim it down to size because of the drug trade.
Go soft on users depends. It depends on the quantity and if the amount automatically deems them to be sellers. Then, it becomes another kettle of fent.
Okay.
This is not justice.
Every day a prohibitionist dies.
Every day a libertarian (with reference to legalising most drugs) is born.
No point getting to uptight about it.
“Always remember, one day all this drug monkey business will be legal”.
https://youtu.be/AwoCyF6qJzE?t=60
I’m not so sure. Years ago were discussing this stuff and someone came up with this, which I can’t verify. Perhaps we can get one or two of self appointed “fect- checkers” a find out ( get them to do something fucking useful for a change). In the latter 1800s when drugs were legal, around 2% of the population was using stuff. I think heroin was around then and so was coke.
It’s about the same proportion now using illicit drugs.
And there are consequences. Consequentialism is a great way of learning lessons and there ought to be more of it for adults. We’ll find out the ramifications of young people having their tits and penises chopped off in about a decade or so. Hopefully future gens will learn from previous mistakes. Sometimes that’s all you can do.
Re 2, its hard not to buy given it is implausible that drug taking wouldn’t increase if you made it legal, cheaper, and ‘safer’.
Drugs are never going to be safe/safer.
But you should know what you are buying.
It’s up to parents to educate their kids.
The idea of sucking up tax payer dollars to support prohibition is nuts.
$US 140 billion in the US alone.
How long before someone posts how legalisation in California has been a disaster?
Bern – I still think you’re missing the point here mate…
Do you ever ask: What possesses a person to “get off their head” and abdicate their senses/duties/obligation and “sovereign body” to any drug?
Why would a person do that? Are they unhappy? Stressed? Victim? Clinically depressed? Angry?
All this banter, and what great banter it is (!), doesn’t ask this fundamental question. Why?
Reminds me of a guy I know (who was far too mature for his age at 18) when he was getting a lift with his 53 year old boss who said “YEAh i’m going out tonight and I’m gonna get smashed this weekend. Partay!!!”
He innocently said “you’re 53 and you do that every weekend, that’s what 18 year olds do.” The boss was speechless.
(And for the record – I aint no saint!)
These consequences aren’t simply borne by the user, and, moreover, maybe drug laws, however imperfect, are a learning of those lessons.
“How long before someone posts how legalisation in California has been a disaster?”
I was thinking about it Bern!
As for the argument about drugs, I’m in between, I can see both sides.
One thing I do know though, the war on drugs has been a colossal failure.
And in closing thoughts on drugs…
I believe the children are the future… 😛
Yes true, life can be really tough for some – even those indirectly impacted. At least they can spread the word around if there’s anything good to come out it.
It never ends like that, JC. Societies can only whistle past the grave yard for so long.
I’ve been booted from Adam’s. I think it is a software issue.
*********
Tony Heller:
One hundred years ago the glaciers in Glacier National Park were melting very rapidly, but now they are growing. This doesn’t suit the funding needs of climate academics, so they spread misinformation.
Try again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM27dxcGqC4
Okay, spend US$ 140 billion a year on absolute monstrosities that can then be used to screw over your own citizens. And there’s not cost in that, right?
Tickler
I don’t get it. You think you’ve been booted from the Lollipop Cat even though it’s a software issue. Presumably your stay here is temporary but you had to , just had to post that link in a real hurry. Who’s chasing you? The FBI?
I think Lysander is on to a good compromise here.
License drugs on condition the user has no children.
JCsays:
September 29, 2022 at 4:25 pm
Tickler
I don’t get it. You think you’ve been booted from the Lollipop Cat even though it’s a software issue. Presumably your stay here is temporary but you had to , just had to post that link in a real hurry. Who’s chasing you? The FBI?
Yep, software issue.
Gerry Rafferty – Baker Street (Official Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo6aKnRnBxM
No. Next the state will put other conditions.
Push for and support returning parental and responsibilities.
A negative impact on users of a drug, whatever their age or circumstances, is one thing.
It is unconscionable to be complacent about negative impact to third parties, who made no such conscious choice to use or to be near someone who used.
Only those who believe they will not feel any negative impact, or who are unable to conceptualize negative impact upon third parties, have the luxury of adopting a laissez faire approach to drugs.
What proportion of currently illegal drug users “get off their head”?
What proportion of currently legal drug user “get off their head”?
More importantly, who cares?
It’s no one’s business apart from the user.
As long as they don’t get behind the wheel or go to work.
Then it’s the business of other road users & the workplace.
Harlequin Declinesays:
September 29, 2022 at 3:16 pm
The new Italian PM gets stuck into Macron
I’m impressed so far. Macron is sexual deviant.
Tickler – Okay, so that means you going back to the Lollipop blog? Why? Other than you and mh there’s no one there. Even people who constantly praise the place are showing their revealed preference is here and not the Lollipop blog. See Hallward as an excellent example of what I mean. He indirectly gives this place the thumbs down when at the lollipop blog and then comes crawling back here like a worm in a hole.
That’s an aside. Why are you there? The way he treated the Egglemeister was dickheadish in the extreme. He goes from crowing about what a free speech fanatic he is at the beginning, invariably ending up with Bird for weeks and weeks. Then pretending he didn’t even though Bird was there and finally acting like a blog jackass threatening folks. He’s a fucking idiot and had him pegged from the start.
Stay here tickler. Recently the owner seems to have cleaned the place of the worst riff raff garbage and the discussions are really good. I’m on a recruiting drive as head of HR.
JC.
The bloke that hasn’t figured out that CO2 warming is scam and yet wants to attach risk analysis in order to go nuclear.
You’re a f*ckwit. No excuses for that, d*ckhead.
Push for and support returning parental rights and responsibilities
I blame Gez.
know.. not though
How about only parents get the good drugs. We need them more.
It’s no one’s business apart from the user.
I’ll dissent from that view.
It is the business of anybody who is going to be affected, i.e. burgled, have their property damaged or destroyed, have their quality of life or quiet enjoyment of their home disturbed, assaulted, murdered, or just generally placed in a situation of terror.
Adding other conditions would just be a move to return to the current war on drugs.
Do you see this as coming from the Left or the Right?
Is that directed to me? Okay, I can live with that. But why are you heading back to the Lollipop blog?
Have you ever seen how heroin addicts treat their children? Why would you want that?
Great rides and wipeouts at the Wedge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1GK-KFWsQw
As a part-time drug enthusiast I would welcome legal and more freely available drugs. However I wouldn’t want to see any more people than currently so using drugs !
Of course you will.
Legalizing drugs making them obviously cheaper etc would reduce those stupid assertions you’ve made. Additionally, you have those issues going on now, unless you’re suggesting it’s not occurring now and legalization would cause them to happen.
If we take the US, they could save US$140 billion and live with those negatives. I can’t believe you came up with this argument. I’m sure no one can.
Excerpt in SMH from Simon Holmes a’court.
He was bullied by mean toffs, so the Teals are his revenge.
Pity it was the toffs that all voted for him. Wonder if they’ll ever work out that he hates them?
Where do I argue that there are no costs in drug laws? BTW, where is this $140B a year from?
JCsays:
September 29, 2022 at 4:25 pm
Tickler
I don’t get it. You think you’ve been booted from the Lollipop Cat even though it’s a software issue. Presumably your stay here is temporary but you had to , just had to post that link in a real hurry. Who’s chasing you? The FBI?
It will be temporary. You’re a smart bloke , JC, but you post a lot a shit. Share your knowledge and stop being a prick.
Please explain how my assertion is stupid, to say that innocent 3rd parties do not deserve to be negatively impacted by drugs………..
I’m not sure what this means.
If it means you are asserting that there is currently now downside to 3rd parties (from drug use of others) then you are …. mistaken.
Neither.
The nanny state was built on seemingly good ideas.
Looking at what is going on in Europe and especially the Biden Demorat Admin shenanigans in the US, I think the chances of calling off the next US elections are increasing significantly. Social instability will be the narrative (which Biden is working flat out to provoke). Out of control cost of living , the weaponized IRS , defunded police depts (rising violent crime), open borders and forcing citizens to accept and embrace the LGBTQI freak lifestyle they are imposing on families – these are all tools Biden is using to create the volatile social environment he needs to cancel the elections.
For their own good, of course.
FTB, as soon as you added those two qualifiers, the “It’s no one’s business apart from the user” lost its rhetorical value.
See above in one of the excepts I copied and pasted. It’s for US, state and Federal. It also understates the true cost when you take say the costs you suggest should be counted with families etc.
How about the families of those 5 million incarcerated Americans in the clink for non-violent drug related crimes?
JC.
Is that directed to me? Okay, I can live with that. But why are you heading back to the Lollipop blog?
I like the joint.
Turnip:
… and what was the answer from the (former) bully?
You’re a smart bloke , JC, but you post a lot a shit. Share your knowledge and stop being a prick.
Half of all that is right.
Oh lord, here we go again.
You said this:
This occurring in the present circumstances when drugs are illegal.
I’m not. I don’t even know how you could possibly have arrived at this most ridiculous claim
I’m done as it’s just tiring arguing.
Munty you’re a big enough dope without drugs.
You’ll have to buy the book 😉
They said it was because he was “self -righteous”.
Evil Toffs, but perceptive.
DB, smoking weed is the same as drinking.
You can drink as much as you want (but no driving, no work).
You can smoke (or eat, edibles are taking enormous market share) as much as you want (but no driving, no work).
Tickler, why are you going back there? Three people read that site. He doesn’t really care for it either.
An one other thing, someone alerted me to it as I really don’t go there.
He posted a thread demanding people post more and become more active or else he’d close the place down. How the fuck could you or anyone take that crap from the lollipop blogger instead of just telling the prick to go fuck himself.
Stay here. The lollipop blog is about as interesting as reading mh day in day out. Just kidding.
Look at the kids.
24 Kids Cover “Cry Little Sister” from The Lost Boys / O’Keefe Music Foundation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYbXFxta24c
Dover, can you please deal with this.
Cronkite is being a real meanie to me.
Rare sighting in Edinburgh – blue sky.
Off to walk the Royal Mile.
Envy me, my humble subjects! 😀
Don’t go the HR route JC. I’ve only known one guy in HR that wasn’t full-on dickhead. They all think they own the company.
Society would be far better off if the same low socioeconomic cohort had ready, legal access to weed & edibles for the past 20 years instead of taxpayer subsidised opioids.
Creepy.
Damien Nicks of AGL elucidates their final solution.
Ranga
I’m on a recruitment drive and think Tickles ought to stay here instead of going back to the rotting carcass.
JCsays:
September 29, 2022 at 5:02 pm
Tickler, why are you going back there? Three people read that site. He doesn’t really care for it either.
Consign yourself to the fact that a lot people do not give a flying f*ck what you think. Stick to your field of expertise…it is handy.
Half of all that is right.
I didn’t say which half. Are you on drugs head prefect? Come on, fess up.
Two problems:
1. New ever more powerful opiates keep on being invented.
2. China seems to be pushing this stuff as a strategic weapon.
Likewise fentanyl is manufactured in China and thence trafficked. I don’t know what you do about all this, especially as the nitazenes and fentanyl are so powerful and so light that they’re cheaper and easier to smuggle. So when the likes of heroin is cut by the dealers they can reduce the heroin content and make it up with fentanyl or ISO for the extra oomph. And hook users of lower level drugs by spiking them with a little of these chemicals.
Florida warns of new drug much more powerful than fentanyl (Fox News, 29 Mar)
China is just going to keep on flooding all other nations until we go under, one way or another.
It was a joke, doggo.
A bit of weed doesn’t matter but I’ve seen too many potheads to know most can’t control it. Same with alcohol. I don’t like smoking and only social drinking. Alcohol doesn’t like me very much these days, so I don’t really care. I get a bit pissed off about demonising suppliers but users are poor little things that are harmless. F off.
Tickler
Sure, but one last thing. You have a huge interest in posting vids that you think people like. If you’re doing all that work, wouldn’t it be better – at least more satisfying – for you to post them where there are more readers and comment participants? Also, this is a blog akin to your political beliefs. And hey, forget me, this joint is full of people like you who think CO2 is a giant scam, so don’t let my view dissuade you.
Also, the art choice here is really good and varied at the top of the page. At least the owner takes pride in his selections.
Stick around for 2 weeks and see what you think. Raise it with me at the end of two weeks and see how you like it. I promise you, you’ll feel more satisfied and appreciated.
I am, still on freaking antibiotics dealing with a small post-operation complication. Why else am I here so often at the mom, You didn’t mention it, but what half should I think you were suggesting?
Child abuse is a joke to you?
Bruce of Newcastle says:
September 29, 2022 at 5:13 pm
China is just going to keep on flooding all other nations until we go under, one way or another.
Just a different form of warfare.
JCsays:
September 29, 2022 at 5:17 pm
I do lurk here. Guess what, it is not for the sh*t you post….half the time.
Turnip
They said it was because he was “self -righteous”.
So even at high school, Simple Simon H a C was a self-righteous prat?Surprise!
JCsays:
September 29, 2022 at 5:21 pm
cohenite says:
September 29, 2022 at 5:12 pm
Half of all that is right.
I didn’t say which half. Are you on drugs head prefect? Come on, fess up.
I am, still on freaking antibiotics dealing with a small post-operation complication. Why else am I here so often at the mom, You didn’t mention it, but what half should I think you were suggesting?
You’ve been in hospital twice since the jabs.
Evil bastards taking revenge for the opium wars.
Tickles
Well stop lurking and post here. Okay, look at it this way. You do a hell of a lot of work finding vids you think people will like. Three people read the lollipop site. On the other, for some reason I’ve been pissing you off and I’m here, so I’m a negative. Don’t read the crap I post, I promise I’ll turn to thinking C02 is a giant scam and you post there. It’s all upside as you’ll have bigger readership and you can ignore me.
The trouble with this place is that everything looks wet, all the time. The slate grey footpaths are slick, car windows misted. You look out the window and see local loons in t-shirts sauntering down the street and think, “Time to venture out”.
It’s blowing a gale, freezing cold and the air is damp.
No wonder they’re always talking about the weather. They have so much of it.
No, once. Appendix this time. In 2020 I had to have a coupla stents put in caused by smoking.
I’m not defending the War on Drugs in the US, or their penalties for non-violent drug related crimes. As to the figure above of $140B, it’s still not clear how you derived it in your comment at 3.20pm.
here.. not there.
Bruce of Newcastle says:
September 29, 2022 at 5:13 pm
China is just going to keep on flooding all other nations until we go under, one way or another.
China’s revenge for the Opium Wars of the 1840s/1850s. They know how to bear a grudge.
Jorge
Snap, great minds, etc.
Dover
Stick the excerpt in google and then follow the search as to where it came from. I forget the search parameters I used.
I agree. The Cat has become a den for the Wets. 😛
Flurry of activity swirling around a man here who died of neglect by the NHS. Four remote “consultations” and he was dead. And the blame is being fixed fair and square on the NHS and “experts”.
I can’t diagnose a plant disease remotely, only guess. How can a “doctor” do something more complex?
Truth.
Then what exactly are you for?
Let’s also not forget non-American deaths. I dunno what the figure is presently, but about a decade ago they were counting about 110,000 Mexican dead as a result of the drug trade to the north. Count those too.
‘Twas ever thus
– Juvenal 1-2AD
Yes. It happens now.
Much of the above is due to some drugs altering behaviour for the worse – legalising those drugs will not alter the behaviour.
Many have not encountered the behaviour altering properties of some drugs. There are some who believe the worst we can see is heroin, or cocaine, or similar. Or who have never had use of the bad stuff impact their life, or believe by dint of their economic circumstances they will be insulated from any fallout.
There are far worse.
Those worse drugs should never be legalised, (or de-criminalised, or any other workaround)
That it ain’t happening in Toorak or Vaucluse don’t mean it ain’t happening.
You didn’t mention it, but what half should I think you were suggesting?
The drugs half. I know you’ve been intimidated by my cute owl posts but you shouldn’t take it personally. Every man has to face the fact that some women are more muscular than him. Except me. Anyway, here’s another cute owl. Don’t beat yourself up, just accept it. And don’t do drugs.
JCsays:
September 29, 2022 at 5:30 pm
You’ve been in hospital twice since the jabs.
No, once. Appendix this time. In 2020 I had to have a coupla stents put in caused by smoking
BS! You had a stomach problem that you blamed on meds. Correct me if I am wrong. No prizes are awarded.
Been out for a bit…
And missed a bit…
So, are we up to the bit where we’re all on China’s side now cos they are hell bent on getting freedom smuggled through the borders? Pretty sure that’s Pakistan’s “pitch” too?
You see, if it wasn’t illegal, they wouldn’t have to smuggle it.
So make it free, so we can all be slaves.
FTB, I’m open to the discussion of regulating weed, and possibly other drugs, its just that my premises will be other then those of liberalism. This doesn’t mean that there won’t be overlapping agreement in some areas, but it will likely mean that in others there won’t.
Oh Shit forgot, Gallbladder removal. That was in 2019 or 18.
Euro stocks are being destroyed on the opening bell.
That is the basis of my caveat with regards to legalising drugs. So many people (not all, but plenty) no longer think about risks. In the past censure by peers and their refusal to fund bad habits would have arrested the decline of many before it was too late. There is a reason the history books are not awash with dead-eyed scarecrows. But those few who sunk so low would have been a cautionary tale for others.
Now addicts are told it is not their fault. They are victims. And, using the appalling logic of the age, if anything bad happens to you it is not your fault. And it is therefore someone else’s job to fix it for you. And if no one is going to fix it then
you will have to do something about itit is someone else’s fault.The struck through part is what is missing in the minds of ‘victims’ and their advocates alike. Including the courts which will extend a leniency to the drug-fucked they would not to the alcoholic. Or maybe now they do.
But it is easy for addicts to get by without the people who previously would have reined them in.
Well, that is all by the by. And the point I am making is that we breed people who can properly assess risk and make stupid choices and do not own the consequences. I think this is far more important that keeping drugs illegal. Sort out the former and the latter will to a large extent (to that it is a problem) will take care of itself.
But there is the supply side.
I think a lot of the problems we have with drugs are related to their illegality. The people that make the newer ones have it in mind to make them as addictive as they can, and with absolutely no mind to side effects – no one takes ice so they can storm into a Maccas and break their own bones punching walls. But that is what they can ‘afford’.
I have never used drugs. No desire to. I was put off dope at the sight of stoners, including people that had been friends. Dull, unfocussed, listless, feeble – they became incapable of enjoying life, preferring a lifeless joy. Not everyone who smokes dope is like this, but for me it became a warning.
I like me grog, but I would like to think I enjoy the taste side rather than its intoxicating nature. Certainly I have never heard of a person on crack ruminating on the equivalence of climate or fruit or tannin structure.
But then how would I know?
Tickler
I’ve been as healthy as a male lion after the vax. All I need is a pride 🙂 Appendix was just a side issue. Literally a right side issue.
Cronkite
That’s just scary shit Dude. Stop posting that crap.
Thank you, Tinta. I think I need to add more classical authors to the Liberty Quotes, they are generally very based.
I had a nice old Chinese bloke as a colleague back when.
He once asked me if I knew what ‘chasing the dragon meant’.
I had no clue.
Without speaking he then mimed the head and upper body movements of an opium smoker chasing the smoke drifting up from a pipe; it was uncanny.
American car rental company Hertz has collaborated with British oil giant BP for the development of a national network of electric vehicle (EV) charging stations powered by bp pulse – BP’s global electrification and charging solution brand.
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This deal is hot on the heels of an agreement made between Hertz and General Motors last week, whereby Hertz plans to order up to 175,000 EV’s from GM over the next five years. It will encompass EV deliveries through 2027 as Hertz increases the EV component of its fleet and GM accelerates production of EVs broadly.
This plan is believed to be the largest expansion of EVs among fleet customers, the broadest, because it spans a wide range of vehicle categories and price points — from compact and midsize SUVs to pickups and luxury vehicles.
Good to see you here Steve t.
JCsays:
September 29, 2022 at 5:40 pm
BS! You had a stomach problem that you blamed on meds. Correct me if I am wrong. No prizes are awarded.
Oh Shit forgot, Gallbladder removal. That was in 2019 or 18.
BS! This was in covid days. I distinctly you bringing it up.
Compulsory drug testing for our politicians and Bureaucrats. They must be on some mindbending shit to be making the stupid decisions they do.
If it’s good enough for the mining industry, it’s good enough for them.
Dutchsinse:
A new large M6.7 Earthquake struck the South Sandwich islands at the location talked about in my last video (seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5tYR…
The magnitude being about the same size as the most recent Mexico quake (M6.8 to M7.0).
This now marks the far Southeast side reaching out from the Pacific plate, as the 7’s spread out to the WEST Pacific up to Taiwan for instance, and 7’s spread to Mexico… then 6’s spread out to Chile and South Sandwich, as well as Alaska.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgOXnWAqceQ
Enrico Fermi born 121 days ago today.
The greatest Italian since Columbus.
Both of them loved a spliff btw.
I distinctly remember you bringing it up.
No it wasn’t. I had one issue in 2020 that was before the vax and this is 2022 with the appendix. I was as fit as a fiddle in all of 2021. It was before 2020.
this joint is full of people like you who think CO2 is a giant scam, so don’t let my view dissuade you.
So you are admitting that most people on this blog are smart enough to realize that plant food is good!
that’s a good start in your recovery!
Well said Mother Lode. Totally agree.
Only once in my near-50 years of life I had a puff of some weed but my “mate” at uni didn’t tell me it was laced with some other crap. LSD I think…
I feel asleep in a Freo carpark and came back to life some 6 hours later (without a sore arse).
Why anyone, who believes in the sovereignty of their body, an obligation or responsibility to others would want to do that, with that crap or anything else, remains perfectly obvious to me: Western society is getting sicker, really quickly and really badly.
Now I launch into my speech on Revelations… 😛
I’m willing to give his high school tormentors the benefit of the doubt, I have little doubt Simon was an annoying dickhead from a young age, much like his chum Alex.
JCsays:
September 29, 2022 at 5:49 pm
BS! This was in covid days. I distinctly you bringing it up.
No it wasn’t. I had one issue in 2020 that was before the vax and this is 2022 with the appendix. I was as fit as a fiddle in all of 2021. It was before 2020.
I should go look it up. I remember you saying it had nothing to do with the jab. Medication issues you said.
Pure Hydrogen Corp (ASX: PH2) says it’s delighted to inform the stock exchange that H2X Global (23% owned by PH2) that the Aussie EV hydrogen fuel cell manufacturer has confirmed the initial release of its Warrego All Wheel Drive ute.
For the growing fan-base of Australian hydrogen electric vehicle (EV) enthusiasts the homegrown manufacturer H2X Global has also released some cracking details and photographs of its long-awaited Warrego hydrogen-powered utility. The ute is now undergoing final testing in the Netherlands as it heads towards formal certification in Europe, as well as locking in European compliance and then onto global markets.
With Australian certification testing to start any day now, H2X Global CEO and founder, Brendan Norman, called the completion of the first Warrego ute a milestone success. “It is extremely satisfying that our team now have the Warrego running through the final stages of its engineering, safety and on road verification program,” Norman said.
Based on the Ford Ranger, the ute is being converted to include the H2X powertrain developed for light vehicles featuring a supercapacitor-based Hybrid system at factories in Sale, Victoria and in the Netherlands. While this will allow the Warrego to work at the lower 350 bar compression, it has the capability to run at much higher compression rates which will double the range per tank.
Alex Greenwich is the person running the NSW government, certainly not the Premier. This man asked Gladys for abortion until birth and got it. Then he asked her for euthanasia and got it. Now he is asking for the transgender “equity bill” that will criminalise parental objection to their kids transition to something other than what they are.
Dominic, the supposedly good Catholic, did not make much noise against the first two give-aways, Tanya Davies and another MP stood up to the mob and paid a heavy price for it. I don’t have much faith in Dominic and think he will roll over just as Gladys did.
Who needs “conservatives”, sorry Liberals, when they do what the greens want. If Dominic were smart he could claw back some favourable poll numbers by saying no to this demand, and it is a demand, not a request.
Kenny is a flog. He has our Pauline on to explain the BS with this filth paki skank who hates Betty and the country and who our Pauline generously offered to drive to the airport so the skank could piss off. Kenny tut tuts and sniffs that immigrants should not be told to piss off as that would be racist. Our Pauline states the obvious that immigrants who come here and express hatred for the place should piss off; and then recounts the racist abuse she gets in parliament from the filth which is never reported by the fucking media. Our Pauline mentions the hypocrisy and after he hangs up on her the shit repeats his comment that immigrants should not be threatened with what our Pauline said. What a flog.
NYPD physical.
Doesn’t seem all that hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5QlJpz5skI
Just useless.
BTW, that number is rubbish, its almost impossible to watch ads or pop culture now at not stumble across a drag queen.
No, they’re just not very smart.
In mining a poor decision could result in the lives of others being harmed, so…… er… um…… faggeddabouddit.
Oh that’s different. I’ve had on-going issues with the blood thinner as it’s giving me real problems with heart burn. I had one brand that worked and the fuckers took it off the market, so I still trying . And no, I had this issue prior to the vax. I can’t tolerate the thinner well.
What do they say to her? Do you know?
Driving to work after a few breakfast cones is the most normal thing in the world, millions do it with no problems.
Anyone claiming otherwise is talking thru his hat.
Tough but fair.
You know what is funny: sealions.
Truth be told, I’d buy JC a pint of beer.
Dover
Can you ban Cronkite. He keeps posting pics of trannies he reckons are hot looking and is obviously in love with them. Kids read this site he could be misleading them about what’s a trannie or real woman.
What do they say to her? Do you know?
According to our Pauline a white kunt and everything in between.
Of course you would Tickles. Stick around.
Don’t kid yourself.
You’ve been sick for years, yet you’re only in your mid Fifties.
Kind of funny that NYPD physical clip showed up on my feed while I was watching one on Quiet Quitting.
FMD, this quiet quitting shit has gone viral.
On Tuesday she was called a “Scumbag”
In the past I’ve heard her told to “piss off back to England” & have heard some very crude, rude, suggestions.
Never anything racist – though I don’t doubt her, she gets called everything under the sun.
Just don’t buy him a lobster.