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Near the Water, Gustave Moreau, 1896

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DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 7, 2022 10:03 pm

Technically, question begging needn’t involve a question at all. The argument:
“Immoral nazi arseholes should be punched in the face. Therefore m0nty should be punched in the face” begs the question of whether m0nty is an immoral nazi arsehole. Opinions may differ, but it needs to be included as a premiss before the argument is logically complete.

custard
custard
October 7, 2022 10:03 pm

It’s not actually

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 10:04 pm

Q is for retards.

Winston Smith
October 7, 2022 10:05 pm

Dare we hope?
Have the lower ranks of the FBI finally found their balls?

custard
custard
October 7, 2022 10:05 pm

FTB is a moron

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 7, 2022 10:06 pm

Sorry BB I don’t know any songs of theirs. I never listened to much music in the 90’s. Too busy working and fishing. You’re the only person I’ve heard of that liked them, every comment about them has been derogatory.

I got the Oasis album as a gift. I think I was convincing in my false appreciation of receiving it. I never even listened to it.

That said, I always thought the Gallagher brothers were more entertaining on commercial flights and interviews about each other. Derek and Clive in real life.

Fuck, yeah.

Indolent
Indolent
October 7, 2022 10:07 pm

Biden is practically screaming that they’re planning a nuclear false flag. Remember, they always do exactly what they accuse others of doing.

Biden warns the world is facing the prospect of ARMAGEDDON for the first time since the Cuban missile crisis – saying Putin is deadly serious about using tactical nukes in Ukraine: ‘He’s not joking’

custard
custard
October 7, 2022 10:09 pm

There isn’t a 46th President of the United States

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 7, 2022 10:09 pm

cohenitesays:
October 7, 2022 at 10:02 pm

cohenite, I was there the other day and there was nothing that looked like that.

custard
custard
October 7, 2022 10:10 pm

People need to understand that.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 7, 2022 10:11 pm

cohenitesays:
October 7, 2022 at 10:02 pm

Wow, Morisset is a bit of a s%$#hole.

Very flash.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 10:12 pm

The good news is that people who the retards listen to (ie Anne Coulter) are now jumping on board a lot of races.
In October 2022 she jumped on board on Blake Masters in Arizona.
It was only a month ago, the GOP started funding his machine in a meaningful way.
In November 2021, I was on a conference call with Blake when he was laying out the game plan especially the ecommerce bill.
It you really want to engage, it’s all laid out like a buffet.
If you want to swallow the shit the establishment wants to feed you, you only have yourself to blame.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 7, 2022 10:17 pm

Explained: How to navigate the A-Z of modern sexuality
Claudia ConnellDaily Mail
October 7, 2022 12:30PM

Personally, I’m convenientsexual.

If I’m horny, you need to give me sex. If I’m accused of sexual impropriety, I’m nonsexual so I couldn’t have dunnit, and otherwise I’m hotsexual, which makes hot chicks responsible for getting me off.

Three totally different definitions that all mean it’s someone else’s fault. What a convenient ideology.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 10:17 pm

Custard, what was more important today?
A Q post?
Or the Trafalgar polling for NY state?

Rabz
October 7, 2022 10:17 pm

“Immoral nazi arseholes should be punched in the face. Therefore m0nty should be punched in the face”

mUttley considers himself to be part of a collective. nazis are collectivists.

Therefore mUttley should be punched in his ample bloated visage by normal members of society at every available opportunity and then some (to be sure, to be sure). In the vain hope that it might finally attempt to engage whatever remaining grey matter is still bouncing around in its thick empty skull.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Which Cat was it recently having a spit about the bank making it difficult to use your own money?

This afternoon the bank refused to allow me to withdraw my own money.
I’d announced I required a certain amount of change to get me through the weekend & did they have it?*
Yes they did have the cash**

If I wanted to do a level swap of cash for cash, fine. Withdrawal; No.
They are “not approved” to transact such a withdrawal***
They helpfully suggested I should come back on Monday when the branch manager “might” be in****

*A business taking a large amount of cash on Friday for weekend change is a perfectly normal & regular part of banking.
**Always have to ask if the branch has the cash, as sometimes they do not have enough.
***WTF?
****Is this for real?

Winston Smith
October 7, 2022 10:19 pm

rickw:

Oil Refinery
Foundry
Machine shop
Sawmill

The other day I was actually thinking of buying a couple of sheep or goats. More because I’m too lazy to mow the grass, than for any other reason.
Sheep are slightly ahead because goats are more difficult to keep fenced in.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 10:20 pm

How much Sal?

custard
custard
October 7, 2022 10:21 pm

I like Trafalgar polls FTB

Saying that a Q post might be more interesting or relevant is your issue not mine.

If you don’t understand Q posts, just say so.

cohenite
October 7, 2022 10:22 pm

cohenite, I was there the other day and there was nothing that looked like that.

Mmmm. Didn’t like it? Here’s a video of the joint:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmEBv4Ntm4w

How was it different for you. I don’t have an interest in the place. Not really.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 7, 2022 10:22 pm

duncanm says: October 7, 2022 at 7:32 pm

I must say that the Higgins case is demanding much more popcorn than I had planned for.

You are watching a movie?

😀

Look to Queanbeyan, heroes in disguise.

Rabz
October 7, 2022 10:24 pm

Rabz, any music fred to fritter away the Friday evening?

BB – Friday Night Pop Tarts – any time soon, I tells ya! 🙂

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 7, 2022 10:24 pm

But then it worked out so well for Napoleon and Hitler, didn’t it?

It couldn’t go wrong, on the cusp of winter and all …

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 10:25 pm

What the Trafalgar poll showed in NY state was the the GOP chap running for Governor (the guy who was attacked) is within 2% of the DNC bird.
Now there is zero chance of him winning.
But when a state wide poll goes like it means the chance of flipping house seats becomes not just a chance, but more of a probability.
If the GOP are looking at flipping seats in NY state it sets the stage.

cohenite
October 7, 2022 10:25 pm

Wow, Morisset is a bit of a s%$#hole.

Morisset maybe. Trinity is not Morisset. Its next to the psychiatric centre. Completely different.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

How much Sal?

More than they were “approved” to allow to be withdrawn.
Under interrogation (I was a touch riled) they did confess that they had an approval limit for withdrawals & grumbled a bit then said I could “have that much” if I wanted it.

That’s like being told you can’t have a Ford Falcon, but “will the back wheels help?”

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 7, 2022 10:25 pm

But in today’s ever-diverse society there are now dozens of sexualities by which people identify.

We used to just call them weirdos. *Sigh*.

custard
custard
October 7, 2022 10:26 pm

Trump and Patel have been massively trolling around this

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I must say that the Higgins case is demanding much more popcorn than I had planned for.

Yer not rong!
This sort of criminal trial is usually seen only in TV shows.

Rabz
October 7, 2022 10:31 pm

it worked out so well for Napoleon and Hitler

Shirer’s description of the latter:

“probably the last of the great adventurer-conquerors in the tradition of Alexander, Caesar and Napoleon and the Third Reich the last of the empires which set out on the path taken earlier by France, Rome and Macadamia

Winston Smith
October 7, 2022 10:31 pm

rickw:
as to whatever, you could do worse than one of these.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 7, 2022 10:33 pm

mUnty is a team player. Like all collectivists.

He takes one for the team. Who knew?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 7, 2022 10:33 pm

Lee Edward Lankester and Monique Leonie Kerr fined for stealing $700 of sex toys from adult store
Breanna RedheadPerthNow
October 6, 2022 5:00PM
Topics

A Bunbury couple have been fined for stealing more than $700 worth of sex toys from an adult store in the South West.

Lee Edward Lankester and Monique Leonie Kerr appeared in Bunbury Magistrates Court on Thursday where they admitted to a count of stealing each after the incident earlier this year.

At 3.30pm on July 14, the pair entered Bunbury’s Adultshop.com store on Spencer Street in the CBD where they stayed for an hour and a half.

During this time, the couple was seen taking products off the shelves, removing the packaging and stuffing the items down their pants before leaving the store and making no attempt to pay.

The actions were captured on CCTV cameras, with the stolen goods totalling $729.10.

Four days later, police arrested the couple at their home address and took them to Bunbury Police Station for an interview, where the court was told they made full admissions to the crime.

Winston Smith
October 7, 2022 10:36 pm

Jannie:

The Russians are mobilising, and that incudes the nuclear strike capability. Redacted is reporting that the US has admitted to having boots on the ground in Ukraine. Also the Russians have commenced air strikes on the Ukrainian troops around the Kherson, and this will no doubt provoke US empowered retaliation and SAM strikes.

The important question is: Are the battery factories working 3 shifts?
H/T

Red Storm Rising.

🙂

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 10:36 pm

Last week Baris said that betting wise 240+ in the house was a lock but he thinks it will be 250+.
And that the Senate 52+ is a lock.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 7, 2022 10:39 pm

How was it different for you.

Far too personal.

(It was shut).

And the exterior view you posted, reminds me of one of those middle-aged actress filmed with one of those filter thingys – nothing like the real thing.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 10:50 pm

Went to Woodcut tonight in the Crown complex.
Seriously one the best places to entertain in Sydney.
Welcomed back a former staff member who had spent over $A200k at Sydney uni for her degree & masters but was getting dicked around on her visa so her billionaire father said screw Australia & come back to China.
Now back in Oz and kicking goals that few could imagine.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 10:52 pm

The sommelier at Woodcut is on the pace.

Rabz
October 7, 2022 10:54 pm

Rabz’ Friday Night Pop Tarts! 🙂

Souxsie

Liz Fraser

Beth Gibbons

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 10:57 pm

What my neighbours are currently hearing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwgZalAFNhM

Yeah, Inglewood, Inglewood always up to no good

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 7, 2022 10:58 pm

Metallurgy, materials, assembly processes, adhesives, contamination, secret ingredients, tolerance stackups.. all this stuff is where your real IP value lives.

An ingredient ends up in the final product, so may be discerned by a keen-eyed inspector. e.g. the “11 secret herbs and spices” that were figured out by food labs in the 1970s.
A secret catalyst is possible if it is fully recovered during production.
Also secret keys for decrypting secret firmware, but the key has to be in memory that can’t be physically interrogated without being destroyed.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 7, 2022 10:59 pm

Wadey had a good game, so did Davey.
Burnsie, 85 against Tassie.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 11:02 pm

You can sit at home with your fingers up your arse.
Or you can go upstream & become enlightened.
Never stop going upstream to the source.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The other day I was actually thinking of buying a couple of sheep or goats. More because I’m too lazy to mow the grass, than for any other reason.

Winston;
You’ll be sorry!
A goat will mow the lawn, the rosebushes, the orchard, & just about anything else you’ve got. Everything remotely edible will be stark from ground level to about 7 feet up, possibly higher.

That’s for one goat. For two or more, multiply the damage exponentially.

custard
custard
October 7, 2022 11:07 pm

Seems FTB agrees with me

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 7, 2022 11:08 pm

I’m thinking the Andrew Thorburn affair could have materially damaged Andrews’ chances of winning the election in November and simultaneously wounded AFL woke-world.

For Andrews to assert that to believe that the religious prohibitions of sodomy, which all the major religions adhere to, is to be homophobic, has probably put off a very significant percentage of the Victorian believing electorate.

In fact, as a Roman Catholic, he knows full well that there is a huge difference between the sinner and the sin, but which he has conveniently ignored in his outburst.

Why? To strengthen support for the Liars in the inner city green-leaning seats? Because it can’t have helped him out in the suburbs.

As to the AFL – if Thorburn sues the Dons, the AFL can’t maintain that “smell of roses” while being the main instigator of the diversity and inclusion round that the clubs have to sign up to.

I can see it now:
Essendon: “they made us show no inclusion and diversity to that group of homophobes, yr honour!”

And how will all those card-carrying, believing members and supporters feel, now they know what their sport, their club and their premier really thinks of them?

It’s a bit like cheating at something: until you’re caught, it’s hidden.

custard
custard
October 7, 2022 11:08 pm

enlightened

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 11:09 pm

No Custard.
You need to feel the sting of your stupidity.
The sooner the better.
Hopefully you’ll learn from the experience.

cohenite
October 7, 2022 11:11 pm

And the exterior view you posted, reminds me of one of those middle-aged actress filmed with one of those filter thingys – nothing like the real thing.

Excellent. Were you on the road side or the lake side. The views I posted are on the lake side. The road side is a typical road side. Which middle-aged actress in particular were you thinking of.

rickw
rickw
October 7, 2022 11:12 pm

rickw:
as to whatever, you could do worse than one of these.

I think it needs a PLC so it can run itself overnight!

Winston Smith
October 7, 2022 11:15 pm

OCO:

I don’t pay attention to any of the corporate media coverage of the war. Their propaganda is strikingly similar to WW1-era stuff. Amazing that people buy into such absurdities.

I admit I have been waiting for one side or the other to do the ‘catching thrown babies on their bayonets’ and ‘nuns with hobnail boots’ stories, ‘kittens nailed to doors and connected to booby traps’.
None yet, so I’m a bit disappointed.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 7, 2022 11:19 pm

Were you on the road side or the lake side. The views I posted are on the lake side. The road side is a typical road side. Which middle-aged actress in particular were you thinking of.

We walked ‘round it; all the way. A bit of grass, a few out doorsy tables & chairs and artificial grass with a view of the water.

Anyone of them – since camera filters seem to be de rigueur. (Sandra Bullock; Sarah Jessica Parker; Nicole Kidman).

John Brumble
John Brumble
October 7, 2022 11:19 pm

Seriously? I’m in moderation but the internet troll who is actively trying to shut the site down still posts under multiple psueds.

Get your damn priorities straight.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 11:21 pm

Winston, David Sacks has been one of the most vocal about avoiding a nuclear war.
You can listen to his views as part of the All-In podcast on YouTube or you can listen to his callin shows if you download the app (PS he the founder of Callin).

custard
custard
October 7, 2022 11:22 pm

No FTB

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

rickw
rickw
October 7, 2022 11:22 pm

trying to reproduce their beautifully made graduated scales

I think I’d draw the scales in a CAD program and use laser engraving.

I did some CNC engraved examples for him, they looked good but weren’t an exact reproduction. Why he ended up going back to the roll engraving which was how the originals were done. Surprisingly he found a Sydney company that could do it at an excellent price.

calli
calli
October 7, 2022 11:24 pm

About to pass this gruesome monument.

A dish served very, very cold.

JC
JC
October 7, 2022 11:25 pm
custard
custard
October 7, 2022 11:25 pm

There is no 46 th

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 11:26 pm

Custard, I talk in metrics & timeframes.
You rehash old Q shit.
Here’s the thing, you don’t even talk the “up to date Q shit”.
You’re like picking up a month old Epoch Times.

areff
areff
October 7, 2022 11:27 pm

Rabz: They’re more rock cakes than pop tarts, but Zepparella are worth as listen.

When the levy breaks

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 11:27 pm

JC is on the pace.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 7, 2022 11:29 pm

bern is a white hat.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 11:30 pm

KD is Inglewood.

custard
custard
October 7, 2022 11:30 pm

There are big pieces being played out on the chessboard and I would urge Cats to pay attention.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 7, 2022 11:32 pm

A dish served very, very cold.

A friend of mine – a Campbell – went to rediscover their Highland roots – there are still signs in shops, saying “No Campbell’s will be served here..”

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 7, 2022 11:34 pm

The key is in the transcripts. A goat and magic eye.

Just think about that.

Iron Cove
Iron Cove
October 7, 2022 11:36 pm

Cabbage rates over the briny

calli
calli
October 7, 2022 11:36 pm

Areff, thanks for the question begging and hung objections.

My own pet grouches:

could of – he could of done it but he didn’t
taken off – they had their bags taken off them by thieves

The scheduled broadcast may now resume.

Iron Cove
Iron Cove
October 7, 2022 11:38 pm

Crates

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 11:38 pm

History Guy just posted this.
Tell me this guys wasn’t on the DMT to come up with this idea 1800 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7POHJy8tpLY

Trajan’s Bridge and the Roman Empire

calli
calli
October 7, 2022 11:39 pm

I’m in Glencoe tonight, Zulu.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 11:40 pm

The key is in the transcripts. A goat and magic eye.

And punching yourself in the balls.

Rabz
October 7, 2022 11:49 pm

areff – you must have missed all my previous comments lauding the Gretchen Menn, a rock ‘n’ roll womanage possessing a super superstructure 🙂

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 7, 2022 11:49 pm

I’m in Glencoe tonight, Zulu.

I’m envious, calli..

Mme Zulu was at one stage married to a Kerr. As a joke, I brought her a scarf in the Kerr family tartan, with the joke that it was probably made from stolen sheep. We were on holiday in Scotland, when she wore said scarf into the village bakery.

The lady behind the counter fixed us with a baleful eye. “That’s a Kerr family scarf. The Kerr’s of Fernieherst sacked this town – burned it to the ground, and what they did to the women, no decent soul could ever contemplate!”

“Oh, really” says an Aussie tourist.”When would that have been?”

“1588!” was the answer.

Rabz
October 7, 2022 11:53 pm

Brumbles:

I’m in moderation but the internet troll who is actively trying to shut the site down still posts under multiple pseuds, I tells ya!

Who might this troll be, Squire?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 11:53 pm

Neighbours currently getting this.
David Guetta & Bebe Rexha – Blue (AHH Remix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztd3U96CAM0

rickw
rickw
October 7, 2022 11:55 pm

and what they did to the women, no decent soul could ever contemplate!

I’m surprised this wasn’t “women and livestock”!

areff
areff
October 7, 2022 11:59 pm

Rabz, I did miss your admiration for Ms G, who is well worth such lauding.

Rabz
October 8, 2022 12:02 am

could of – he could of done it but he didn’t

Could’ve (i.e. could have)

taken off – they had their bags taken off them by thieves

“off them” being redundant, presumably.

Let’s not enter into the realm of “knocked off” … 😕

Rabz
October 8, 2022 12:09 am

The teacher said that that that that that boy had written was incorrect.

English as she is spoke. If there is or was a god, she speaks it. 🙂

Rabz
October 8, 2022 12:23 am

the book’s “Idiotisms “:

“I am mUtlley, hear me bore!”

“There will be no carbon tax while my genitalia resembles mussels in a jar, I tells ya!”

“The rain that never falls will never fill our dams!”

“Gerbil worming is real and has been happening for over 34 years!”

calli
calli
October 8, 2022 12:24 am

could have

taken from

*bows and scuttles off*

calli
calli
October 8, 2022 12:25 am

Or is that scuttles away? 😉

rickw
rickw
October 8, 2022 12:28 am

Just washed me feet out the front of the Saudi Embassy for the second time. Might be a high risk approach to getting sand off one’s feet! 🙂

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 8, 2022 12:29 am

Psst, this way. I’ve just seen another thread.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 8, 2022 12:31 am

“loose” when they mean “lose” pisses me off.

seems to be preferred by residents of Danistan

Rabz
October 8, 2022 12:33 am

Dusty:

The look of love

Again – the sparseness … 🙂

Winston Smith
October 8, 2022 4:15 am

P:

Winston, how is it going for your sister these days.
Every time you post a comment I say a prayer for her.
Forgive me if this is an intrusion into your privacy. Is so just disregard.

She got the lump removed and a course of radiotherapy which finished a fortnight ago.
Everything looking good.
Unfortunately her best friend died week ago from breast cancer but the terminal stage was really quick – up and about one day and died 48 hours later. Painfree, at home with family and the standard SC Morphine/Midazolam/Maxolon therapy.
So she’s a bit fragile but doing OK.
And yes, survivor guilt is a thing.
Ta for the prayers…

Winston Smith
October 8, 2022 4:22 am

Custard:

Dems try a full steal in November.

If the Dems try that I’d say you’d see the military intervene.

A military intervention would have to come from the Colonels Ranks – the O’Biden/Harris stacking and purging of the upper echelons has been incredible.

duncanm
duncanm
October 8, 2022 7:41 am

Someone in this thread pointed out it’d be interesting to know who the line-up of Higgins supporters were.

Michael Smith identified

Here’s another for you.

That dashing young lezzo is “support worker” Heidi Yates.

Ah – support worker. You know, some lowly functionary from the local women’s shelter.

No – that would be ACT Victims of Crime Commissioner and alphabet and social justics law reform champion Heidi Yates.

duncanm
duncanm
October 8, 2022 7:42 am

post before completion..

.. Michael Smith identified

PR and political messaging advisor Emma Webster, a former Kevin Rudd staffer and these days a big bucks Hawker Britton Labor-aligned spin artist

Johnny Rotten
October 8, 2022 8:10 am

The two most powerful warriors are patience and time.

– Leo Tolstoy

Johnny Rotten
October 8, 2022 8:20 am

Three Aussie guys all go to a building site in London answering to an advert for brickies.

The foreman asks them if they each can each build a small wall out of a pile of bricks outside the foreman’s office. They oblige, the foreman checks on them and confirms that the work was a high enough standard, so he decides to hire all three.

He figures he better do a health and safety check but since he is desperate for workers, he decides to make it pretty simple and just asks each of them a simple question: “What would you do if you were up a scaffolding and dropped a brick?”

The first Aussie says “Shout *FALLING BRICK!* to warn anyone working below me”. The foreman replies “That’s fine, you’re hired, go up that scaffolding and get to work”.

The second Aussie replies “I would shout *FALLING BRICK, WATCH OUT BELOW!* to warn those below me”. The foreman replies “Good good, you’re also hired, go up that scaffolding and get on with the job”.

The third Aussie however has a pretty bad stutter and replies “I w-w-w-w-would also shout *F-F-F-F-F-Falling B-B-B-B-Brick!* as a w-w-w-warning to others”. Now the foreman realises this could be a bit of an issue but since he is desperate for workers just tells the lad to be careful and not drop anything.

Within an hour the first Aussie drops a brick and shouts down *FALLING BRICK!* and everyone below got out of the way without a problem.

Later on the second guy also drops a brick and shouts down *FALLING BRICK, WATCH OUT BELOW!* and once again everyone below moved out of the way without any issues.

Eventually the third guy also drops a brick and begins to shout “F-F-F-F-F-F…”

… but as he is still shouting, the brick falls and hits an Englishman right in the head, killing him outright…

“…ucking B-B-B-beauty!!!!”

m0nty
October 8, 2022 9:03 am

Cassie, it’s pretty much the one thing I’ve been trying to get through to people from the start. Putin IS the moderate everyone is dreaming of. The idea it’s going to be rainbows and fairy floss is he was killed or otherwise disappeared is completely unrealistic.

I keep getting the same sort of reactions though, get called a vatnik, Russia supporter etc. etc. Very few people admit there might be a legitimate concern for the Russians, or that they might actually have decided diplomacy was achieving nothing and done something about it.

It’s the difference between how people want the world to be, and the reality of what the world is.

Putin may have been a moderate before he started the war, but he’s not one now. What more could a replacement do, apart from drop a nuke? He’s already started a mobilisation and devoted 20% of Russia’s GDP to it, it’s not as if there is a cigarette paper’s difference between him and some random Mad Pyotr.

Any thought of Putin having a legitimate beef with Europe about their moves to discourage him from invading countries were snuffed out when he started the invasion. He kind of proved them right, didn’t he? Turns out he actually was a threat that they should have made moves to counter.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 8, 2022 11:39 am

Bernard Cornwell, a descendent of the eleventh century Uhtred the Bold of Bamburgh Castle, drew upon this Uhtred’s life to create the earlier ninth century Uhtred of Bebbenburg in his saga The Last Kingdom, recently turned into a long-running set of TV series about the creation of Engalande prior to Athelstan’s final victory (a film is now being made to place Cornwell’s Uhtred in this). The tale of the seven severed heads is repeated in this series, drawing on Uhtred the Bold’s life, being thus placed anachronistically in Cornwell’s books as well as by the TV series. From Calli’s link above, a similar tale has also been part of C16th and C17th historic Scottish clan warfare. Seven is a sacral number, which probably explains the common numeric identification.

The taking of heads was prominent in earlier tribal cultures in Britain. In Lancaster a Roman tombstone fairly recently found covering a drain depicts a second century Centurian in full panoply on horseback going native, not only on this ‘riter’ style of tombstone crushing underfoot a Brythonic barbarian but also having gathered five barbarian heads strung together over the back of his horse. Cutting off heads and putting them on a pole was part of legal punishment until at least the early seventeenth century. Elizabeth the First did a lot of it to her favorites as well as foes. The wonderful Irish war song ‘Follow me up to Carlow’ speaks of cutting off an opponents Tudor head and ‘sending it back to Queen Lisa and her ladies’.

Islamic cultures, witness the lamentable Islamic State, also did some head chopping in our times. Indeed, women and their children paraded the desire to do some more on placards not long ago in Sydney’s streets. Nor will I ever forget seeing videos of men being decapitated by a river in the contested Middle East during those dreadful times and the men’s bodies falling into the water as their heads were held aloft. It was always a murderous custom.

As was hanging. In the past tense, Odin ‘hung’ on the World Tree and it continued on from there. Strangling was part of the ‘triple death’ of the Bronze Age, as seen in bog bodies and recounted in tales of Merlin (Odin). Hanging has been the mode of capital punishment in British law especially since head-taking lost favour. My border-riever grandfather never referred to being ‘hanged, drawn and quartered’, btw. It was always, in his words that flowed so easily off the tongue, ‘thee’ll be hung, drawn and quartered’ whenever a sheep-stealing misdemeanor, or any misdemeanor of mine, was the reference. Common enough parlance to have the sting of ancient remembrance about it in his day.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 8, 2022 11:47 am
Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 8, 2022 11:53 am

I see from one of BB’s comments on a previous page that Brittney (Australian of the Year -pending) was approached by Pirate Pete about a book deal before she even spoke to the police.

No doubt Pete will get his crack team of researchers on the case and will provide his own inimitable embellishments.

And no doubt Brittney’s indignation will soar up to eleventy when she reads the book and discovers to her horror new details of the event that she had not known.

Imagine her outrage (outrageously outrageous outrage) when she learns that Lehrmann also ushered in the entire Cabinet to have their way with her; how they urinated and defecated on her inert body, how they dragged her into the basement of Parliament House where they took her newborn baby (innocent issue of the night’s savagery), and Tony Abbott and John Howard ritually killed it. They all drank the blood, even forcing Brittany to drink as well.

Brittney will be the loveable hero, possessed of a free and unbroken spirit, too pure for the world she was to enter into. She looked at the stunted and malformed ogres of the Liberal Party, but all she saw was people needing help.

The Libs will be a melding of 19th and 20th century British toffs with things like “tally-ho” and “I say” tripping constantly from their tongues, a haughty cabal concealing their grasping, calculating, and corrupted natures beneath layers of scented linen, silk, and brocade, with flashing medals and sparkling jewellery – all trophies of past successful campaigns won with other people’s blood.

Then we will have the likes of Bruce, one of an army of foul emissaries, intermediaries that transmit the will of the Liberal cabal upon the real world. Stripped of humanity, motivated solely by greed and malice, and a wish to one day be received into the cabal, there will be no deed so low he will not stoop to it, and when the command is given to get rid of ‘the virginal upstart’, he will know exactly what to do.

This will be a boon for Pirate Pete. To date he market niche has been kids who need to buy a present for their Dads but have no idea what they want but don’t yet have – in the ‘bargain bin’ price range.

This will open the door to ‘My daughter is a middle-class undergraduate feminist gender studies uni student’ market.

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