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Near the Water, Gustave Moreau, 1896

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lotocoti
lotocoti
October 7, 2022 11:56 am

China wants a fair swag of the Russian Far East, and has done so for decades. See 1969/70 and the clashes around the Ussuri River.

Breaking up the Russian empire totes won’t end up knee deep in blood.

m0nty
m0nty
October 7, 2022 11:59 am

China wants a fair swag of the Russian Far East, and has done so for decades. See 1969/70 and the clashes around the Ussuri River.

Stalin was able to bully Churchill and Roosevelt into conceding Poland and other nearby territories to communism because he had major skin in the game (also Roosevelt was a bit Pollyannaish about Stalin). China won’t be as strong at the bargaining table when divvying up control over a post-nuke Russia, unless they deploy troops in support of NATO.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 7, 2022 12:03 pm

Yep, you suspect canning the Brittany case would be a career limiting decision at the ACT DPP and the ACT more generally. Canberra – just blow it up.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2022 12:04 pm

rosiesays:

October 7, 2022 at 11:22 am

I recall the claim re Pell was adjusted many times by location and years.

They live and learn.
All of the accusers went to great pains to be very specific about the events, but vague about timing.
Partially because a prior accuser had been adamant that he had been abused by Pell “during the summer holidays at the end of 1965” or somesuch precise timing.
Pity that Pell has an old passport showing he was in Rome at the time. But still the homework was sloppy. The accusation that one was abused by Pell at a particular movie theatre during a screening of a particular movie.
Bzzzt.
Movie not shown at that theatre.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 7, 2022 12:06 pm

USS Evans was 3 June 1969

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 12:07 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
October 7, 2022 at 11:28 am
Feeling pretty good about his first firing, Marvin looks around the room and asks “Does anyone want to tell me what that goof-off did here?” One of the workers answers “He’s the pizza delivery guy waiting for the money”.

Based on a true episode, involving Frank Packer, who gave a lad, loafing with his hands in his pockets a weeks pay in lieu of notice, only to find he had just sacked the lad from the P.M.G., delivering a telegram…

So true and a Journalist friend of mine told me that one. The lad had used Frank Packer’s private lift to get up to Frank’s Office and Frank was in the lift when the lad got in………………..lol

Whoooooops……………………..Easy money or what?

johanna
johanna
October 7, 2022 12:08 pm

rosie says:
October 7, 2022 at 9:04 am

Wouldn’t those overseas born covid deaths be mostly post war migrants now in the frail aged category?
Iirc there was a break down via region of birth.
I’m not surprised war survivors or even any other class of person born overseas had poorer health in the first place.
Doesn’t mean they and their children weren’t vibrant and productive.

Nonsense.

Post war migrants like my parents were only allowed in if they were young and healthy – they had to pass a medical test. My old man is still choogling aged 95. Around here, there are lots of descendants of the people who came to work on the Snowy scheme, and their grandparents are still visible, meeting for coffee and chatting away in Polish or Ukranian or whatever. They were and are tough. Peasants from Eastern Europe were brutally selected for it – the weak ones died young.

Yes, they are now in the frail aged category, but no, they are not more likely to die because of where they came from. On the contrary.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 7, 2022 12:09 pm

I reckon only allowing corrections not deletions or editing would clean up some of the rubbish with social media.

Perfect use case for blockchain and perfect guiderails for social media – we cannot take your comment down, and YOU cannot take your comment down. 100% accountable.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 7, 2022 12:10 pm

Rogersays:
October 7, 2022 at 9:44 am
Ms. Wilkinson’s role in this deserves some serious scrutiny.

Isn’t she due to be called as a witness?

Yes, but I meant on a professional level.

She appears to be an ethical vacuum.

Only an ethical vacuum could possibly marry FitzSimian.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2022 12:10 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

October 7, 2022 at 11:34 am

Faaaaarrrrrrrrrkkkkkkk……from The Oz…..

“Ms Higgins has admitted deleting text messages and photos before handing her phone over to police

So tampering with evidence, then?
But too dumb to tell her boyfriend du jour to delete his end.
And also completely unaware that the contact, if not the complete message, will be sitting on a phone company server somewhere.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 12:11 pm

When I was born I was so ugly the doctor slapped my mother.

– Rodney Dangerfield

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 7, 2022 12:12 pm

m0ntysays:
October 7, 2022 at 9:51 am
The point I was trying to make is that if China is not even running in the Race to Moscow, possibly by giving up early as the Americans did with Berlin, then it will be at a disadvantage re the post-war power balance in the region. Which kind of goes against the whole Chinese Century narrative.

Arrrrgh! Forgive me, I just gave m0nty-fa a dickless uptick for this.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 12:16 pm

A couple goes out to dinner to celebrate their 50th wedding anniversary. On the way home, she notices a tear in his eye and asks if he’s getting sentimental because they’re celebrating 50 wonderful years together. He replies “No, I was thinking about the time before we got married. Your father threatened me with a shotgun and said he’d have me thrown in jail for 50 years if I didn’t marry you. Tomorrow I would’ve been a free man!”

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Dot says: October 7, 2022 at 11:33 am

rosie says: October 7, 2022 at 11:22 am
I recall the claim re Pell was adjusted many times by location and years.

It was outright perjury, eventually.

Huh? Waddaya mean ….. ‘eventually‘?

Roger
Roger
October 7, 2022 12:24 pm

Which kind of goes against the whole Chinese Century narrative.

We’re already witnessing the beginning of the end of the Chinese Century.

Lasted longer than the 1000 Year Reich though, give them that.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2022 12:26 pm

USS Evans was 3 June 1969

This was on 7 Sep 2022, Duk.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 7, 2022 12:27 pm

Pauline Hanson is officially under investigation by the Australian Human Rights Commission for telling Greens senator to ‘p*** off back to Pakistan’

Pauline Hanson probed by Australian Human Rights Commission over tweet
Ms Hanson had told Greens senator Mehreen Faruqi to ‘p**s off’ back to Pakistan
Greens leader Adam Bandt labelled the inflammatory tweet as ‘despicable’

So when does the Senate censure Lidia Thorpe?

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 12:29 pm

“Doc” says Steve “I want to be castrated”. “What on earth for?” asks the doctor in amazement. “It’s something I’ve been thinking about for a long time and I want to have it done” replies Steve. “But have you thought it through properly?” asks the doctor “It’s a very serious operation and once it’s done, there’s no going back. It will change your life forever!” “I’m aware of that and you’re not going to change my mind – either you book me in to be castrated or I’ll simply go to another doctor”. “Well, okay”., says the doctor “but it’s against my better judgment!” So Steve has his operation, and the next day he is up and walking very slowly, legs apart, down the hospital corridor with his drip stand. Heading towards him is another patient, who is walking exactly the same way. “Hi there” says Steve “it looks as if you’ve just had the same operation as me”. “Well” said the patient “I finally decided after 37 years of life that I would like to be circumcised”. Steve stared at him in horror and screamed “Shit! THAT’S the word!”

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 7, 2022 12:30 pm

The defence is pulling Ms Higgins’ wings off.

Mr Whybrow said Ms Higgins had asserted in a number of places, including a timeline she prepared for police in 2021, that she had met with police before April 1, 2019.

The defence suggested to Ms Higgins that it was after her meeting with Senator Linda Reynolds on April 1 that she had contact with anyone from the federal police.

The court heard Ms Higgins say the timeline was pieced together retroactively and she was not trying to say it was an “absolute concrete thing”.

Not “absolute concrete thing” evidence bring used to send a man to jail. Must be a high water mark for both prosecution and police.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 12:31 pm

When I was a kid my parents moved a lot, but I always found them.

– Rodney Dangerfield

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2022 12:37 pm

Dr Duk – I’m not pulling your leg, the British ship was HMS Westminster.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The court heard Ms Higgins say the timeline was pieced together retroactively and she was not trying to say it was an “absolute concrete thing”.

At this rate the jury will be out for so short a time that the twelve who make the jury will be leaving the courthouse at the same time as the four who get discharged.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 7, 2022 12:40 pm

The MSM is in cahoots with the Wilkinson/Maiden coven.

The media was all on a roll with Christian Porter and the Alan Tudge thing on the back burner also, the Higgins thing fitted right in at the time.
Believe All Womenses.

areff
areff
October 7, 2022 12:43 pm

Why are the media narratives so muscular? Because there is a revolving door between vested interests and those who cover them. From a media newsletter I get:

Medical Editor appointed at the Herald Sun

Robyn Riley has started a new role as Medical Editor at the Herald Sun. She returns to the masthead after a decade in communications, most recently as Senior Media and Communications Officer at The Peter Doherty Institute for Infection and Immunity.

Don’t reckon she’ll be writing too much about the alarmism, the panic, or how the Doherty Institute got everything wrong, from lethality to safe-and-effective

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2022 12:45 pm

Ok I’ll relent. 😀

Royal Navy and RAF team up with US to sink 450ft-long warship in ‘rare’ show of force (23 Sep)

Ex-USS Boone Sunk Using SM-6 Missile, Paveway IV and Quicksink Bombs During US-UK Drills (2 Oct)

Not often a British frigate gets a chance to sink an American destroyer. The jokes would be flying in all directions in the mess afterwards.

min
min
October 7, 2022 12:46 pm

Re Covid in Waste water in Spain 2019.
The first signs in EU was in Italy in the Bergamo area . I know this area an d wondered why here .
Italian friends and newspapers reported that none of the fashion houses or the Goods that Italians are famous for, belong to the Italians . Taken over by the Chinese who subsequently trained their own in Italian manufacturing methods and ousted all the old employees . Covid broke out in January , from memory after Chinese had been back home for New year or whatever.
What is the situation in Spain and Chinese takeovers.?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Pauline Hanson is officially under investigation by the Australian Human Rights Commission for telling Greens senator to ‘p*** off back to Pakistan’

I hope Pauline tells the HRC to ‘piss orf back to Malaysia.

This would be the same Race Discrimination Commissioner who stated that Melbourne streets were perfectly safe for anybody to promenade at any time, and that fear of African Gangs was total bigotry & fake news.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 7, 2022 12:48 pm

Ah…. USS Boone.

min
min
October 7, 2022 12:51 pm

Dr Faustus , BH has the puffy face of a heavy drinker . She will not age well.

johanna
johanna
October 7, 2022 12:51 pm

To quote the old joke, I feel like a mosquito in a nudist camp. I just don’t know where to begin in mentioning the fallacies and lies in this story courtesy of you know who:

Alarm bells are being rung about a looming “sub-prime” crisis that could see banks exposed to the elements and more borrowers turned away from home loans in areas prone to extreme weather.

Climate change is something many borrowers are not factoring in when they buy a property, but risk assessors say it should be top of mind.

Ahmad Tabish and his young family just moved to the regional Victorian city of Shepparton for his new job.

He loves the “beautiful city” but is aware of it’s vulnerability.
Floodwaters fill a street in the northern Victorian town of Shepparton on March 7, 2010.
Floodwaters in the centre of Shepparton back in 2010.(ABC News: Emma Williams)

Shepparton’s town centre is along the Goulburn River. Homes near it are prone to flooding.

Mr Ahmad is considering staying in Shepparton long-term and buying a house there.

“Usually, when people buy a home, especially young people, they do a lot of research in terms of the costing,” he says.

“But I think now there [are] extra factors to study: How’s the topography of that region? The geography of that region?

On and on it goes, about how some areas are prone to flooding, and that ‘proves’ global warmening, and this is all new.

They are not ‘extra factors’, you moron. The location of floodplains is not new information, and nor is the data about past floods – which is a reliable indicator of future floods.

The insurance industry has plenty of form for jacking up premiums in the name of ‘climate change’ instead of accurately assessing and admitting to well known risks. I remember a lot of discussion on WUWT a few years ago about that very thing. US insurers announced that they were jacking up premiums in southern States because ‘climate change’ – across the board. It was based on a few bits of cherry-picked data, and reaped them hundreds of millions while letting everyone know that they were on board with The Narrative.

TheirABC is collaborating with the local leeches doing the same thing.

BTW, about ten years ago I decided to ditch insurance. It has never repaid me a cent for the thousands I paid in, including when I was burgled – they wriggled out of paying.

I lived in a brick house, no fire hazards nearby, don’t burn candles or smoke in bed. Electrics were up to date.

It has saved me tens of thousands of dollars. I do recognise that other people have different circumstances, and it might be worthwhile for them. But, I realised that it is not necessary for everyone. And, even if you are insured, you might well be in litigation for years to get your payout, as fire and flood victims will attest.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2022 12:53 pm

Oops, my mistake – USS Boone had been a frigate not a destroyer. I got my brain mixed up when I read a story somewhere that the Oliver Hazard Perry class were a predecessor to the Arleigh Burks.

Kneel
Kneel
October 7, 2022 12:54 pm

“This video from yesterday includes an estimate of 35k-40k Ukraine forces on the Kherson front line.”

Nukes I don’t see as being used by Putin unless NATO crosses the RUS border.
But given the hissy fit (rightly or wrongly) the US had over the Cuban missile crisis, RUS certainly has a precedent for such threats.

However, the above sort of thing could also be dealt with using some pretty nasty weapons – FAE’s (AKA “vaccuum bombs”, AKA “poor mans nuclear weapon”), carpet bombing with cluster incendiaries etc.
And since most of the troops are there to protect family, similar weapons use on Kyiv etc would see a lot of them leave to find and support said family.

In short, there’s plenty Vald can do that, while not very nice, it certainly NOT a nuclear weapon.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2022 12:55 pm

And I can’t spell Arleigh Burke either.
🙁

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 7, 2022 12:55 pm

Higgins and her friends are the most disgusting lightweights imaginable. Moronic twats who sum up what is wrong with politics in this country.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 7, 2022 12:56 pm

And, even if you are insured, you might well be in litigation for years to get your payout, as fire and flood victims will attest.

Had a house destroyed by fire in 2009 – never a whimper from the insurance company, certainly no litigation needed.

bons
bons
October 7, 2022 12:56 pm

The media was all on a roll with Christian Porter and the Alan Tudge thing on the back burner also, the Higgins thing fitted right in at the time.
Encouraged by a PM whose behaviour was well beyond permissive.
I cannot imagine what motivated that creature.

Cassie of Sydney
October 7, 2022 12:56 pm

“Pauline Hanson probed by Australian Human Rights Commission over tweet”

Of course they are. And here is the perfect epitaph for the last nine and a half years of useless and woeful Coalition governments. For almost nine years the Coalition did nothing to fight the culture wars, they did nothing about their ABC bias, in fact in January of this year they increased funding for the Coalition hating organisation, they did nothing about Section 18C, in fact Abbott squibbed, they did nothing about shutting down leftists organisations like the AHRC, an organisation that exists solely to target conservatives and others on the right.

I don’t think Pauline is too worried, she’s been through far worse, after all, she went to prison on trumped up charges. Pauline should take a leaf out of Sall Grover’s handbook who, when targeted early this year by tranny activist “Roxeanne Tickle”, chose to ignore the complaint.

On Sunday Malcolm Roberts, at CPAC, spoke a fundamental truth about Pauline Hanson, she is the bravest woman in Australia, whilst not perfect (who is) Pauline doesn’t flinch, doesn’t recoil and doesn’t run scared in the face of progressive leftist scum who’ve spent the last twenty-six years targeting her and trying to silence her. We could all be a bit more like Pauline.

rickw
rickw
October 7, 2022 12:57 pm

Opposition Leader Matthew Guy has promised his party will ditch Victoria’s new pandemic powers being pushed through parliament by the Andrews government if he is voted in at the next election.

A flicker of sanity from this moron.

m0nty
m0nty
October 7, 2022 1:01 pm

Russia doesn’t enjoy air superiority over Ukraine, it’s not as if they can send a fleet of bombers to drop carpet bombs without them encountering some serious US-provided anti-aircraft firepower. Ground artillery has been the long-range choice in this war, pretty much, apart from the occasional drone.

JC
JC
October 7, 2022 1:03 pm

My God, Qantas is gouging. Even Economy Premium to NY is 10k. Lordie. Business is close around 18k.

Zatara
Zatara
October 7, 2022 1:06 pm

IIRC, Ben Collins was outed recently as a massive hypocrite whose ability to manipulate his own twitter historical records allowed him free rein to vilify conservatives.

I read an article yesterday about Collins and several other hypocritical high profile left-wing “journalists” who come from extremely wealthy families. One of which contained the originator/owner of the wayback machine.

I intended to link to it but that article is now unavailable. Odd huh?

mc
mc
October 7, 2022 1:06 pm

A flicker of sanity from this moron.

Will believe it when I see it.

Mind you, I get the impression that he is comfortable being opposition leader. Not sure he really wants the top job.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 7, 2022 1:06 pm

House That! Former treasurer Ben Wyatt splashes eye-watering amount on Nedlands mansion
Kim Macdonald
The West Australian
Fri, 7 October 2022 2:00AM

Ben Wyatt is largely considered to have been one of the best treasurers this State has ever seen, but his shrewd economic acumen does not appear to extend to real estate.

“I have got a well-worn strategy in property — I buy at the precise moment the cycle peaks,” he joked of his recent purchase.

After a year-long search, during which time prices for luxury homes skyrocketed, Wyatt and wife Vivianne have just purchased a $3.69 million house in Nedlands.

The price is 37 per cent more than the $2.7 million the same property cost in 2019.

It is also a solid upgrade from his last home, which he bought in Vic Park for $700,000 in 2007.

Fortunately for him, his move from politics into the corporate world has been profitable, though he is clearly working hard for every cent he earns.

He has board positions at Woodside, Rio Tinto, the West Coast Eagles, the Perth Festival, the Telethon Kids Institute, his consultancy Wyatt Martin and APM.

Wyatt, who famously quit politics to spend more time with his family, said the home office was a major drawcard, given he spends 80 per cent of his working life at home.

Another former Labor politician, living in a hovel..

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 7, 2022 1:08 pm

Had a house destroyed by fire in 2009
Did you find out how it started, Zulu?

rickw
rickw
October 7, 2022 1:09 pm

We’re already witnessing the beginning of the end of the Chinese Century.

The problem with the Chinese Century is that communism doesn’t work, neither in a macro sense nor a micro sense.

They’re about to do something really fucking stupid here, which is completely pointless. Almost all of them know it’s wrong, but it will be done “because the leader says”.

How many fucking times does “you’re leader” have to be wrong before you lot will say something? Silence.

That’s why the Chinese Century was over before it began. The system is not self correcting, in fact it vehemently against self correction.

I’ve never worked for the CCP before, fascinating to watch and learn from the dysfunction.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2022 1:09 pm

I feel like a mosquito in a nudist camp. I just don’t know where to begin in mentioning the fallacies and lies in this story

Johanna – I get that feeling most days that I look at the science news. Here’s a similar one which I saw today:

Study: Web-based tools can help Great Lakes region plan for potential influx of climate-change migrants (Phys.org, 6 Oct)

Communities in the Great Lakes region need to start planning now for a future that may include “climate migrants” who leave behind increasingly frequent natural disasters in other parts of the country.

And user-friendly web-based tools can be a central part of that planning process.

Those are the main messages of a commentary published online Oct. 6 in [science journal] Earth’s Future by a University of Michigan geographer and several colleagues.

A million monkeys on typewriters could produce better quality random collections of syllables than this absolute rubbish.

Kneel
Kneel
October 7, 2022 1:10 pm

” Ground artillery has been the long-range choice in this war, pretty much, apart from the occasional drone.”

Either of which could deploy a fuel-air-explosive without too much issue…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2022 1:11 pm

Dr F at 12:30

Not “absolute concrete thing” evidence bring used to send a man to jail. Must be a high water mark for both prosecution and police.

Mmmyes.
Here’s a little snippet from today’s livestream.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2022 1:14 pm

JCsays:
October 7, 2022 at 1:03 pm
My God, Qantas is gouging.

You say this like it is breaking news.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 7, 2022 1:14 pm

Did you find out how it started, Zulu?

Supposedly a Western Power pole fell over, but they denied all liability.

johanna
johanna
October 7, 2022 1:15 pm

duk, the barrister is called Whybrow. Shouldn’t be hard to find him and his team of solicitors – who did an excellent job in finding out Brit-nee’s lies.

Good luck!

Zatara
Zatara
October 7, 2022 1:16 pm

Communities in the Great Lakes region need to start planning now for a future that may include “climate migrants” who leave behind increasingly frequent natural disasters in other parts of the country.

The Great Lakes region being remarkably low lying, flat and adjacent to the great lakes, would be among the first under water if climate driven rising sea levels were actually a thing.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2022 1:19 pm

It would be great if the whole Britnah shitshow was brought to a quick and merciful end.
But part of me wants to see it run it’s course.
The defence summing up will be one for the ages.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 7, 2022 1:20 pm

Some rain and the BoM radar stops working. I guess it doesn’t work in the rain.

m0nty
m0nty
October 7, 2022 1:23 pm

The Pumpkin Spice Must Flow @J_M_T_
Tonight’s brain-chewing worry: So let’s say Putin does fire a nuke at Ukraine. Even with a tactical nuke, the Russians can’t see to reliably strike the far more mobile Ukrainian army, and that’s all tactical nukes are supposedly “good” for. They’ll strike a civilian target.

But where? And with what? Targeting a city, you’d think they’d just go ahead a slap the big city-killer strategic warhead on, but those have too high a chance of being taken out before they hit. Tactical nukes are easier to move, mix in with regular heavy artillery.

So that’s what, but where? They want to hit the heart of Ukraine – a devastating blow they think will crumble Ukrainian resolve (they’re wrong). Honestly, I think they see Kyiv as Russian. Too much Soviet history. And they want Odesa desperately.

Kharkiv is too close to Russia. Kherson is a possibility, but honestly? I think the target would be Zaporizhzhia. The city and region is the nexus of Ukrainian Kozak identity, and that’s formed a large part of Ukraine’s independent nature and cultural history.

I have also had thoughts that Putin would strike a city for political reasons rather than military targets. Hard to pick one that isn’t directly downwind of Russian territory, but I guess when you throw nukes around there is going to be some hair mussed.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 7, 2022 1:30 pm

m0nty-fa

I have also had thoughts that Putin would strike a city for political reasons rather than military targets. Hard to pick one that isn’t directly downwind of Russian territory, but I guess when you throw nukes around there is going to be some hair mussed.

TYwo points.

First, I think you mean “upwind”. Second, your enthusiasm for a nuclear war is nauseating.

Chris
Chris
October 7, 2022 1:30 pm

Supposedly a Western Power pole fell over, but they denied all liability.

I fought the same fire twice, twenty years apart. First time it was SEC pole fuse blowout sending molten slag to start fire in the grass; second time power lines clashing in annoying winds. Two deaths, people known to our family. Western Power took a hiding.

Gave my young son something real for his CV when they later accepted him to ADFA, so there is that.

rosie
rosie
October 7, 2022 1:34 pm

People born in Southern and Eastern European were significantly more likely to die of covid than Australian born people, average age 86.8, 87.8 and 91.5 which puts them squarely in the post war migrant category, whether healthy at time of migration or not.
Forgive me for thinking a couple of years of semi starvation and inadequate health care (as many experienced) might have long term health effects.

m0nty
m0nty
October 7, 2022 1:37 pm

LOL yes, I do mean upwind.

rosie
rosie
October 7, 2022 1:40 pm

High demand in the Christmas run up at Qantas?
All the airlines were more expensive when I looked at booking travel for immediately after Christmas.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2022 1:41 pm

The problem with the Chinese Century is that communism doesn’t work, neither in a macro sense nor a micro sense.

They’re about to do something really fucking stupid here, which is completely pointless.

May be true quicker than you think.

Taiwan issues ‘first strike’ retaliation warning to China as tensions escalate (6 Oct)

Chinese fighter jets or drones that intrude into Taiwan’s territorial airspace will be regarded as a “first strike”, Taiwan’s Defense Minister Chiu Kuo-cheng said.

Speaking at a meeting of Taiwan’s Foreign and National Defense Committee, the minister said: “In the past, we said we won’t be the first to strike, which meant we will not fire the first shot without (China) firing artillery shells or missiles first.

“But now the definition has obviously changed, as China used means such as drones.

“So we have adjusted, and will view any crossing of aerial entities (into Taiwan’s territorial airspace) as a first strike.”

They’re fed up with Chinese aerial provocations, with dozens of PLA jets penetrating Taiwanese airspace. Plus the drones. If the Taiwanese shoot down some CCP aeroplanes the world may be a different place as soon as next week.

Roger
Roger
October 7, 2022 1:42 pm

Forgive me for thinking a couple of years of semi starvation and inadequate health care (as many experienced) might have long term health effects.

One of Australia’s leading geriatricians has pointed to this as a probable cause of excess deaths, citing anecdotal evidence from her practice of malnourished nursing home patients in lieu of any formal studies (iirc, there are studies presently underway).

I can’t track her down atm but she’s been interviewed oon ABC RN AM twice.

Strangely, politicians don’t seem particularly eager for an inquiry into this.

Roger
Roger
October 7, 2022 1:45 pm

That’s why the Chinese Century was over before it began. The system is not self correcting, in fact it vehemently against self correction.

Yes, it will collapse under the weight of its own absurdities, like the Soviet Union eventualy did.

Roger
Roger
October 7, 2022 1:52 pm

I can’t track her down atm but she’s been interviewed oon ABC RN AM twice.

I think it was Dr. Kate Gregorevic.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 7, 2022 2:02 pm

Daily Mail

Read the expletive-laden texts Brittany Higgins and her ex-lover exchanged about how she was offered ‘jack in terms of help’ after she was allegedly raped – as she explodes over ‘deeply insulting’ line of questioning

Brittany Higgins was grilled over night of alleged rape and what she told police
Ms Higgins alleges Bruce Lehrmann raped her in minister’s office after night out
Mr Lehrmann has pleaded not guilty to sexual intercourse without consent

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 7, 2022 2:02 pm

If Britnah had been given advice not to proceed with an allegation, it was very good advice.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 7, 2022 2:03 pm

min says:
October 7, 2022 at 12:51 pm

Dr Faustus , BH has the puffy face of a heavy drinker . She will not age well.

Good advice, min.
When it’s my turn, I’ll make my excuses and leave.

johanna
johanna
October 7, 2022 2:04 pm

H B Bear says:
October 7, 2022 at 10:21 am

The Poms regard the NHS as a national institution. It’s bizarre. Like getting teary eyed over Centrelink.

It’s weird, but speaks to what I have been saying here for years – during the greatest inflow of wealth ever thanks to the Empire, the British upper class cared not a fig for anyone but themselves – although big-noting themselves at ‘charity’ events was part of the public profile.

Right through to the first half of the C20th, the supposedly enlightened and immensely wealthy ruling class in Britain sat by while millions of people had no running water in their homes (hot water? a dream) but had to get their water from a communal pump – in cities like Birmingham, not villages. In the 1940s.

The propaganda campaign with TV shows like Downton Abbey has been going on for decades. All those caring aristocrats.

Yes, today’s NHS is a travesty. Just horrible. But, the reason people are so attached to it is that the alternative was dreadful. It wasn’t Dr Finlay’s Casebook, it was kids dying of diptheria and whatever, or grandma/pa ‘having a turn’ which was their last, because they couldn’t afford a doctor, let alone hospital.

Look at those houses built during the Empire. In terms of multiples of average wages, Bill Gates would have to spend a big chunk of his fortune to equal that ratio.

Indeed, it is hard to work out what he could spend it on in one house.

The British Empire had its good points, but not many of them filtered down to the poorer Brit.

Beating their chests about The Empire, while hundreds of thousands of their countrymen/women in cities could only get water by toting buckets to a communal pump?

bons
bons
October 7, 2022 2:06 pm

Yes, it will collapse under the weight of its own absurdities, like the Soviet Union eventualy did.
True. But just like in the case of East Germany, they will have already injected their ideological poison into the supine West. Already well advanced the the case of Australia and accellerating under the tutelage of the houso thug and Wong.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 7, 2022 2:08 pm

Climate change is something many borrowers are not factoring in when they buy a property, but risk assessors say it should be top of mind.

Didn’t faze the experts….

Flannery. (Hawkesbury Riverfront)
Obama. (Martha’s Vinyard Oceanfront)
Gore. (Montecito, California beachfront)

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 7, 2022 2:09 pm

Miltonf says:
October 7, 2022 at 12:55 pm

Higgins and her friends are the most disgusting lightweights imaginable. Moronic twats who sum up what is wrong with politics in this country.

Ms. Higgins was expecting to advance her career by winning preselection to a safe Liberal Party seat. This is a sad reflection on the state of politics in this country when shallow, no-nothings get into Parliament.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 7, 2022 2:11 pm

I have also had thoughts that Putin would strike a city for political reasons rather than military targets.

Out of my lane here, but my thoughts are that vaporising a city centre, even with a very teeny nuke, would probably bring the Poot even more political condemnation than blasting a military target.

Just a thought.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 7, 2022 2:13 pm

OTOH, what do these vendors know?

Australia’s top 8 waterfront homes for sale right now
These renowned waterfront estates – from Byron Bay, Gold Coast, Palm Beach and Mosman – are among some of the tightest held properties in the country.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 7, 2022 2:14 pm

1 hour ago
Higgins denies she tried to ‘bolster’ rape claims
Remy Varga
REMY VARGA

Ms Higgins has denied she told Fiona Brown, then Linda Reynolds’ chief-of-staff, and her former boyfriend Ben Dillaway, she was going to a doctor to “bolster claims” of the alleged rape.

Ms Higgins became tearful during cross-examination by Steven Whybrow, representing accused rapist Bruce Lehrmann, her eye make-up smudged.

Ms Higgins said she’d told Mr Dillaway about the alleged rape by Thursday, March 28, and she told him she’d seen a doctor, which was incorrect.

When Mr Whybrow asked Ms Higgins to bolster her false suggestions, she said no.

“Nothing you are saying right now is true whatsoever, and it’s deeply insulting,” she said.

Ms Higgins said she’d only disclosed the rape to Mr Dillaway, who was consoling her, and seeking professional help was confronting so soon after the alleged rape.

“I completely reject everything you’re saying,” she said.

“I wasn’t coping because I had been raped in my workplace – I don’t know what you want from me?”

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 2:16 pm

Olaf the Viking is shopping at a supermarket when he comes across an old lady in a wheelchair, almost in tears. “What’s the matter?” asks Olaf. “Oh” sobs the old lady “I want to have a look at the frozen puddings but, as you can see, there are three steps down into the chiller cabinets”. “No problem” says Olaf, lifting her onto his back “I’ll take you”. Olaf strolls through the chiller cabinets with the old lady on his back. She selects several puddings and puts them in the basket he is carrying for her. At the other end the old lady’s husband is waiting with her wheelchair. “I’d really like to thank you” says the old lady as Olaf sets her back down in the chair “but I don’t even know who you are!” Olaf just waves and walks off. “I was really worried about you” comments the old lady’s husband. “What have you been doing?” “I’ve been through the desserts on a Norse with no name”.

Bill P
Bill P
October 7, 2022 2:17 pm

I believe JC named JR as the Cat’s Rodney Dangerfield.
Anyway, Rodney tells the story of he and his wife having sex and it was not going well.
“What’s the matter? Can’t you think of anyone either?”

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 7, 2022 2:17 pm

Encouraged by a PM whose behaviour was well beyond permissive.

Yep, wouldn’t want SloMo alongside you in the trenches. Folded faster than a cheap tent.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 7, 2022 2:18 pm

And also from the ‘Strayan:

How did the appointment of the churchgoing Andrew Thorburn get past Essendon inclusion advocate Dorothy Hisgrove? Well, she was on vacation.

How could a man who ticked so many ‘minority’ boxes in todays society NOT get the job?

– Decent
– Hard working
– Strong history in the workforce
– Christian
– Moral to a fault
– Protective of the rights of children – unborn children
– Believer in traditional family values….

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 2:18 pm

We sleep in separate rooms, we have dinner apart, we take separate vacations – we’re doing everything we can to keep our marriage together.

– Rodney Dangerfield

bespoke
bespoke
October 7, 2022 2:19 pm

johanna

I’m always amused by people romanticising about lost empires as if they would be part of the elite and not lowly clerks and stonemasons.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 7, 2022 2:23 pm

House That! Former treasurer Ben Wyatt splashes eye-watering amount on Nedlands mansion

Very toppy. Be a while before you see $3.7m regularly for Nedlands. Not a problem if you don’t plan on selling for a while. Wouldn’t have been a good look as the Member for Vic Park.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2022 2:24 pm

From their ABC:-

When asked if Ms Higgins deleted things off her phone prior to giving it to police, Ms Higgins responded:

“It wasn’t with the intention of keeping it from police.”

Here’s the thing Britnah. This isn’t The Perject studio. You don’t get to glibly make statements about your intent and have them blindly accepted. The jury will decide whether your intent was malicious. And it is not looking good.

Mr Whybrow asked whether she also deliberately deleted all images of then-minster Linda Reynolds from her phone.

“I never wanted to see Linda Reynolds’s face again so I cleared off any photos I had of working for her,” she said.

“My phone is my home and I just didn’t want her in my home. I wanted her out. I wanted her out of my life.
“I wanted to scrub all the horrible parts from my day-to-day life.”

Uh-huh. Sure.
But then there is this.

But when asked if Ms Higgins then supplied a photo with Senator Reynolds to News Corp journalist Samantha Maiden in January 2021, prior to going public with her allegations, she said she had.

Ms Higgins said the image had been posted to her Instagram for some time.

But not deleted from Insta. Because it was no doubt a photo of Reynolds and Britnah and projected to Insta-world the image of Britnah’s grrrrl-power.
This is getting awkwarder and awkwarder – if that is a word.

Dot
Dot
October 7, 2022 2:24 pm

Huh? Waddaya mean ….. ‘eventually‘?

Yes you are technically correct.

It could be considered perjury pre trial (at least in NSW) but without being a witness during an actual trial, the highly politicised DPP would not prosecute it as such, if at all.

I think the ongoing curation of a rotten ball of lies is good reason why it ought to have been treated differently to “no I didn’t realise I was speeding”.

Dot
Dot
October 7, 2022 2:25 pm

I think the word you are looking for Sancho, is cringe.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 7, 2022 2:26 pm

Plenty of nice old family homes on big blocks through Nedlands. Too many being replaced by Webb & Brown Neaves shitboxes though.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 7, 2022 2:27 pm

Also in the news:

Las Vegas police are investigating the stabbing of at least six people on the Las Vegas Strip on Oct. 6. Some of the victims were showgirls taking pictures with tourists, bystanders told Fox 5 and other news outlets.

So, ROP or the AMISH? … hard to say at this stage..

ah there it is:

A male suspect, in his 30s, was taken into custody, police said. A motive for the crazed attack is unknown.

Motive unknown – that would be the AMISH then.

Indolent
Indolent
October 7, 2022 2:27 pm

George Christensen

Transhumanism World

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2022 2:27 pm

Ms Higgins became tearful during cross-examination by Steven Whybrow, representing accused rapist Bruce Lehrmann, her eye make-up smudged.

Surely the ex editor of Dolly magazine, Mrs Bandana, could recommend a mascara which won’t run.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 2:27 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
October 7, 2022 at 1:41 pm
The problem with the Chinese Century is that communism doesn’t work, neither in a macro sense nor a micro sense.

They’re about to do something really fucking stupid here, which is completely pointless.

May be true quicker than you think.

Yes but the Chinese Communist Party are not Communists like the Soviet Union was. They are still Gangsters though……………..With Crony Capitalism thrown in for good measure. And Bad Luck all you Peasants…………………………….

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 7, 2022 2:28 pm

This is getting awkwarder and awkwarder – if that is a word.

May be, but I just don’t have any faith in the system, any more.

WolfmanOz
October 7, 2022 2:29 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
October 7, 2022 at 2:14 pm
1 hour ago
Higgins denies she tried to ‘bolster’ rape claims
Remy Varga
REMY VARGA

Ms Higgins has denied she told Fiona Brown, then Linda Reynolds’ chief-of-staff, and her former boyfriend Ben Dillaway, she was going to a doctor to “bolster claims” of the alleged rape.

Ms Higgins became tearful during cross-examination by Steven Whybrow, representing accused rapist Bruce Lehrmann, her eye make-up smudged.

Ms Higgins said she’d told Mr Dillaway about the alleged rape by Thursday, March 28, and she told him she’d seen a doctor, which was incorrect.

When Mr Whybrow asked Ms Higgins to bolster her false suggestions, she said no.

“Nothing you are saying right now is true whatsoever, and it’s deeply insulting,” she said.

Ms Higgins said she’d only disclosed the rape to Mr Dillaway, who was consoling her, and seeking professional help was confronting so soon after the alleged rape.

“I completely reject everything you’re saying,” she said.

“I wasn’t coping because I had been raped in my workplace – I don’t know what you want from me?”

10-20 years ago in a more sane world, the judge would be now considering dismissing the case. Higgins testimony so far has more holes than a block of Swiss cheese.

But of course we don’t live in a sane world anymore.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 2:32 pm

I sent my hearing aid off in the post to be repaired. It’s been two weeks and I still haven’t heard anything.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 7, 2022 2:32 pm

Sancho – I think your mascara would run if you spent the day in court watching your career being torched. Even Channel 10 must be having a problem with this – and they employ anyone.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 2:34 pm

I looked up my family tree and found out I was the sap.

– Rodney Dangerfield

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 7, 2022 2:34 pm

A top Florida state official warned Thursday that firefighters have battled a number of fires caused by electric vehicle (EV) batteries waterlogged from Hurricane Ian.

This is the ONLY solution:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KmsVytiMDg

Patronis published a video of firefighters in Naples, Florida, battling a fire started from a Tesla EV’s battery. A bystander is overheard in the video saying that the crew had used hundreds of gallons of water attempting to put the fire out.

In the CFS, our ‘Tesla Fire’ SOP was ‘ order 10 tons of water and quarantine for 3 days.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2022 2:35 pm

Old Bloke – It worked for Kamala, given how she has been thrust into the Vice Presidency. I can see why greasy pole climbers in Australia might think the same could be possible here.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 7, 2022 2:36 pm

From the “WEst Australian.”

Mr Whybrow showed the court a message Ms Higgins sent to her Chief of Staff, Fiona Brown, asking for a day off to see a doctor.

“The reason you didn’t go to the doctor was because you hadn’t had sex with anyone on Friday night, consensual or otherwise,” Mr Whybrow said.

“That’s not true, that’s not true,” Ms Higgins replied.

“It was to bolster your false suggestion that something happened with Mr Lehrmann,” Mr Whybrow said.

“Nothing you’re saying right now is true whatsoever, and it’s deeply insulting,” Ms Higgins said, becoming emotional.

Mr Whybrow repeated the suggestion that Ms Higgins had not gone to a doctor because she was not raped – showing the court a message she had sent to an ex-boyfriend about another GP appointment.

“The reason you didn’t follow through with any (appointment) was you hadn’t had sexual intercourse with Mr Lehrmann that weekend,” Mr Whybrow said.

“I don’t know if you’ve ever gone through a trauma before but confronting it with professionals is a very hard thing to do,” she told the barrister.

“I completely reject everything you’re saying.”

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 7, 2022 2:37 pm

They’re fed up with Chinese aerial provocations, with dozens of PLA jets penetrating Taiwanese airspace.

So far I think the CCP has only flown through the ADIZ which is different from territorial airspace.

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 7, 2022 2:37 pm

“I’ve been through the desserts on a Norse with no name”.

Can’t someone shoot him.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 7, 2022 2:37 pm

Rogersays:
October 7, 2022 at 1:45 pm
That’s why the Chinese Century was over before it began. The system is not self correcting, in fact it vehemently against self correction.

Yes, it will collapse under the weight of its own absurdities, like the Soviet Union eventualy did.

Currently 73 years since the CCP took over in 1949. The Soviet Bloc collapsed after 72 years (1917 to 1989), the Soviet Union itself after 74 years (1917 to 1991).

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 7, 2022 2:39 pm

Yes but the Chinese Communist Party are not Communists like the Soviet Union was. They are still Gangsters though……………..With Crony Capitalism thrown in for good measure. And Bad Luck all you Peasants…………………………….

Sounds just like Australia.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 7, 2022 2:40 pm

Ms Higgins said she’d only disclosed the rape to Mr Dillaway, who was consoling her, and seeking professional help was confronting so soon after the alleged rape.

“I completely reject everything you’re saying,” she said.

“Nothing you are saying right now is true whatsoever, and it’s deeply insulting,” she said.

Righto then … I won’t ask any more Q then…..

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 2:41 pm

Sorry you people in the Fish Bowl. More and more jokes on the way……………LOL

A pissed off wife is complaining about her husband spending all of his free time at the pub. So, one night he took her along. What’ll you have?” he asked. “Oh I don’t know, same as you I suppose”. So he ordered two beers, and threw his down in a couple of gulps. His wife watched him, then took a sip and immediately spat it out. “Yuk, that’s terrible; I don’t know how you can drink this stuff!” “Well, there you go, and you think I’m out every night enjoying myself?”

rosie
rosie
October 7, 2022 2:43 pm

““I don’t know if you’ve ever gone through a trauma before but confronting it with professionals is a very hard thing to do,” she told the barrister.”
Whereas turning the allegation into a political and media circus is a walk in the park.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 2:44 pm

My cousin’s gay, he went to London only to find out that Big Ben was a clock.

– Rodney Dangerfield

Dot
Dot
October 7, 2022 2:49 pm

BBS

You were right. The Anti-Discrimination Act was not changed. However, the imposition of the vaccination exemptions being so strictly controlled created a situation where I was discriminated against in one sub section of s 49 and then it was “absolved” by section 49 P.

Dot
Dot
October 7, 2022 2:51 pm

With cigarettes, my wife and I, we made a deal. We only smoke after sex. I’ve got the same pack now since 2015. What bothers me is my wife. She’s up to three packs a day!

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 7, 2022 2:53 pm

I have also had thoughts that Putin would strike a city for political reasons rather than military targets.

Putin, in his speeches, has made it clear that he won’t use nuclear weapons unless they are used against Russia. He has been careful to avoid civilian centres and has no desire to smash anything apart from the Ukrainian Army.

Why is Monty and the other globalists pushing the Putin-Nuke story, is there some setup being planned to nuke Russia?

I’m so old I remember when the Left were opposed to globalism.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 7, 2022 2:56 pm

Sorry, Soviet Bloc after 34 years (1945 to 1989).

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 7, 2022 2:59 pm

Old Bloke

I’m so old I remember when the Left were opposed to globalism.

And war (particularly nuclear war). Yet m0nty-fa is positively gagging for a nuclear war. It’s a mystery.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 3:00 pm

Old blokesays:
October 7, 2022 at 2:53 pm
I have also had thoughts that Putin would strike a city for political reasons rather than military targets.

Putin, in his speeches, has made it clear that he won’t use nuclear weapons unless they are used against Russia. He has been careful to avoid civilian centres and has no desire to smash anything apart from the Ukrainian Army.

Why is Monty and the other globalists pushing the Putin-Nuke story, is there some setup being planned to nuke Russia?

I’m so old I remember when the Left were opposed to globalism.

Monty Pox Virus is a Fat Twat. Putin will never strike first as he doesn’t need too.

Dot
Dot
October 7, 2022 3:01 pm

My source is Dr Nick Coastworth.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/senior-doctor-calls-for-vaccine-age-to-reflect-international-standards/news-story/bf257f30802944f8c2b8893aebaacdf7

He explained that for children, the benefit of vaccination is basically non-existent.

“If you’re a healthy child or adolescent, the benefit of the Covid vaccine just isn’t there,” Dr Coatsworth said.

“It doesn’t stop you getting the illness, and Covid itself isn’t going to kill you in that age group.”

“Many parents have made that decision not to vaccinate their kids and that is a valid decision regardless of the recommendation,” he said.

***Keep in mind herd immunity is impossible because the efficacy of the vaccines is not good enough.

rickw
rickw
October 7, 2022 3:08 pm

They Are giving Cows mRNA Vaccine • Which Will Pass the Vaccine Into Milk, Cheese etc

Now I have to buy my own cow and make my own cheese?! Add it to the list:

Oil Refinery
Foundry
Machine shop
Sawmill

etc. etc.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2022 3:13 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

October 7, 2022 at 2:02 pm

If Britnah had been given advice not to proceed with an allegation, it was very good advice.

Gez, I am calling bullshit on the “I would lose my job if I went to the cops” thing, too.
The truth is, they probably had advice that they shouldn’t have a complainant and potential witnesses working together through a trial.
She would have been given another job, but it might not have suited her aspirations.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 7, 2022 3:15 pm

***Keep in mind herd immunity is impossible because the efficacy of the vaccines is not good enough.
When Operation Warpspeed was announced it was pointed out that there never had been a successful Corona virus vaccine, not for lack of trying. Either the vaccines were ineffective or the test animals died or became very sick.
Anyone know what was meant to have been done differently this time?
I’d say there still hasn’t been a safe and effective Corona virus vaccine.

rosie
rosie
October 7, 2022 3:17 pm

Coatsworth is very good value .

Jannie
Jannie
October 7, 2022 3:19 pm

The Russians are mobilising, and that incudes the nuclear strike capability. Redacted is reporting that the US has admitted to having boots on the ground in Ukraine. Also the Russians have commenced air strikes on the Ukrainian troops around the Kherson, and this will no doubt provoke US empowered retaliation and SAM strikes.

Redacted also has a video of Zelensky calling for pre-emptive nuclear strikes on Russia. (I admit I cant speak Ukrainian but that what the sub titles said).

If Monty is right that the Russians are having their butts kicked and Putin is an insane killer, then it will all be over soon, or maybe he might use a few of his 62oo nuclear warheads in his existential struggle. Fortunately M0nty is almost always wrong.

All the same I am heading to my bunker down Pemberton way, the sheep are calling, no wifi no worries.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 3:20 pm

The Jabs were never vaccines. They were Drugs…………………………

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 3:24 pm

Fortunately M0nty is almost always wrong.

Of course he is wrong as he has been Left back in the Dressing Room so many times. He has never been Right.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 7, 2022 3:28 pm

Now I have to buy my own cow and make my own cheese?! Add it to the list:

Oil Refinery
Foundry
Machine shop
Sawmill

etc. etc.

Ammo press, black powder recipe, lead molds…

Anchor What
Anchor What
October 7, 2022 3:29 pm

NT to ban spit hoods.
Next, News at Nine: defund the police and cashless bail for everyone.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 7, 2022 3:31 pm

there never had been a successful Corona virus vaccine, not for lack of trying. Either the vaccines were ineffective or the test animals died or became very sick.
Anyone know what was meant to have been done differently this time?

1) Censorship
2) Propaganda
3) Mandates for core workers
4) Fascistic partnering with big business for defacto mandates for the rest
5) Criminalisation of dissent via militarised police

theres a starter

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 7, 2022 3:32 pm

Wyatt, who famously quit politics to spend more time with his family…….. has board positions at Woodside, Rio Tinto, the West Coast Eagles, the Perth Festival, the Telethon Kids Institute, his consultancy Wyatt Martin and APM.
Literally funnier than Tom’s Toons.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 3:32 pm

he seven dwarfs were in a Catholic church. They were sitting near the rear and as the priest was speaking, they whispered and giggled amongst themselves, causing quite a disturbance.

All of a sudden, Dopey stands up and says “Father, are there any midget nuns in the church?” “No” said the priest “There are no midget nuns in the church”.

A little time passed and the dwarfs were again whispering and giggling amongst themselves causing quite a disturbance and noticeably angering the priest.

Soon, Dopey stands up again and asks “Father, are there any midget nuns in the city?” “No, my son, there are no midget nuns in the city or in the church” says the priest.

Again, the dwarfs resume their annoying giggling to the dismay of the priest.

The dwarfs continue their interference.

Dopey stands up and asks “Father, are there any midget nuns in the country?” The priest, totally angered, exclaims “No, my son, there are no midget nuns in the church, in the city, no midget nuns in the country, there are no midget nuns in the whole world!! Now sit down!!!”

Soon afterwards, a chant can be heard from the rear of the church…

“Dopey fucked a penguin! Dopey fucked a penguin!”

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 3:35 pm

Never pick a fight with an ugly person, they’ve got nothing to lose.

– Robin Williams

Dot
Dot
October 7, 2022 3:40 pm

the Telethon Kids Institute

Surely such a well accomplished person will do this work for free?

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 3:41 pm

Here comes the rain again…………………

https://youtu.be/TzFnYcIqj6I?t=3

will
will
October 7, 2022 3:43 pm

rickwsays:
October 7, 2022 at 9:12 am
If they have relatives back there, they would say that, wouldn’t they.
They point isn’t whether it’s popular in some quarters.
It is whether it is right.

The Filipino’s I was referring to live there. Of course it’s not right.

When you have criminal gangs running around with AR15, the niceties of polite society is a luxury you cannot afford. You think Sydney is bad?

Image you are General Pinochet, and the Chamber of Deputies ask you to save the country from a communist takeover by armed thugs, what do you do?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2022 3:48 pm

#trans TikTok star

“Trans TikTok Star” is starting to become a euphemism like “Aspiring Rapper”.

P
P
October 7, 2022 3:53 pm

Hurricane Ian Recovery, Day 7

Incredibly a week after Hurricane Ian took out the bridge connecting Pine Island to Cape Coral, the temporary bridge was finished and five semi tractors/trailers from Publix Supermarket were first to cross into Pine Island with relief supplies. {Direct Rumble Link} WATCH:

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 3:54 pm

A Russian, an American, and a British admiral were having a drink on an American aircraft carrier. They were talking about the bravery of their sailors.

The Russian said “I will demonstrate the bravery of our sailors”.

He calls a sailor over and says “Jump off the ship. Swim under it and climb back up”.

The sailor promptly salutes and jumps off the flight deck, swims under the ship, climbs up the davits and stands in front of the admiral and salutes.

The Russian says “That, gentlemen, is courage”.

The American says “That’s nothing”.

He calls over a PO and says “I want you to jump off the bows. Swim under the ship to the stern and then return”.

The PO salutes, jumps off the bow, swims to the stern, and climbs back up to stand in front of the admiral and salutes.

The American says “That, gentlemen, is courage”.

The British admiral says “That’s nothing. Sailor, come here”.

The matelot comes to attention and salutes.

The admiral says “I want you to climb the highest mast on the carrier, jump off, swim under the boat from bow to stern and then from beam to beam then climb up the mast and do it again”.

The matelot looks at the admiral and says “You can fuck right off, sir!”

The admiral turns to the other two and says “And THAT, gentlemen, is courage”.

duncanm
duncanm
October 7, 2022 3:55 pm

I don’t know what you want from me?”

the truth?

Makka
Makka
October 7, 2022 4:01 pm

They won’t even do a disaster relief bill without including billions more for Ukraine. The US congress is a criminal cartel.

And until they pass a law that makes Congress front running illegal, it won’t stop. These crooks are incentive by millions in graft and insider knowledge to spend as much taxpayer treasure as possible boosting specific shares that they own.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 4:01 pm

A man and a woman get married and are on their honeymoon. The woman walks out of the bathroom in a robe, the man says “Take off your robe – we’re married now!” The woman says “Okay” and takes off her robe. Then the man asks if he can take a picture of her and she asks why and the man says “So I can carry you with me”. A few hours later the man comes out of the bathroom in a robe. The woman says “Take off your robe – we’re married now!” The man says “Okay” and takes off his robe. The woman asks if she can take a picture and the man asks why and the woman says “So I can have it enlarged!”

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 4:03 pm

If women ran the world we wouldn’t have wars, just intense negotiations every 28 days.

– Robin Williams

m0nty
m0nty
October 7, 2022 4:07 pm

Why is Monty and the other globalists pushing the Putin-Nuke story, is there some setup being planned to nuke Russia?

No. Some Russian commanders have been quoted calling for a tactical nuke though.

Things are going to get very bad for Putin in the long term, exactly how bad depends on how reckless he is in the short term. He is Ceacescu crossed with Mussolini at this point.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 4:08 pm

Three guys, a Polish guy, a Jewish guy and an Italian guy, sign up for the police academy.

The Jewish guy goes in first and the captain says to him “We have to ask you one question before we admit you in to the academy ‘Who killed Jesus?’”

The Jewish guy says “The Romans did it”. The captain says “Right, you’re admitted”.

The Italian guy goes in next. The captain asks him the same thing. “We have to ask you one question first before you’re admitted to the Police Academy. Who killed Jesus?” The Italian guy says “The Romans did it”. The captain says “Right, you’re admitted”.

The Polish guy goes in and the captain repeats the question. The Polish guy says “Gee, I don’t know”. The captain tells him to go home and think about it for a week and come back and tell him.

The Polish guy goes home and his wife asked him how his first day went at the academy, and he says to her “You won’t believe it! My first day on the job and they assigned me to a murder case!”

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 4:11 pm

It’s all to do with the training: you can do a lot if you’re properly trained.

– Queen Elizabeth II

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 4:16 pm

Things are going to get very bad for Putin in the long term, exactly how bad depends on how reckless he is in the short term. He is Ceacescu crossed with Mussolini at this point.

Oh for goodness sake, what have you been smoking? Or drinking for that matter? You really are a fat twat when you go on like this.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 4:16 pm

Taylor Lorenz, I believe. It’s why you can’t find out how old she is from the web. Orwellian.

When I posted the link here yesterday morning, it was from something Walter Kirn had retweeted.
It has disappeared from his twitter feed now.
Either he deleted it or the original tweet has been deleted.

cohenite
October 7, 2022 4:21 pm

Pauline Hanson’s One Nation Party
4h ·
“Hydro Schemes may be renewable, but they definitely aren’t green”
This plan for building the world’s biggest pumped hydro site in the Pioneer Valley will be a disaster for the region in more ways than one.
Five years ago, Malcolm Turnbull announced the Snowy 2.0 pumped hydro project by saying:
“The plan will increase the generation of the Snowy Hydro scheme by 50 per cent, adding 2000 megawatts of renewable energy to the National Electricity Market (NEM).”
Australians were told the Snowy Hydro scheme would be completed at a cost of $2 billion without any taxpayer subsidy.
It would bring electricity prices down and generate renewable energy with virtually nil environmental impact. None of these claims turned out to be true.
Not only are Australian taxpayers now up for billions of dollars in subsidies but electricity costs have increased in NSW and Kosciuszko’s ecosystem trashed.
Earlier this year, a Victoria Energy Policy Centre Report said ‘Snowy Hydro’ now wants to increase transmission tariffs by more than 50 per cent.
Far from bringing electricity prices down, electricity prices in NSW have risen significantly because of Snowy 2.0.
And far from adding 2000 megawatts of renewable energy to the National Electricity Market, Snowy 2.0 will end up being a net load on the NEM.
For every 100 units of electricity purchased to pump water uphill, only 75 units are returned as the water flows back down through the turbine generators.
Even the Sydney Morning Herald described it as a ‘white elephant’ and the most inefficient battery on the NEM, losing 25 per cent of energy cycled. The Premier’s ‘revolutionary’ scheme here in Queensland will be no different.
The whole thing seems to have been cobbled together without any consultations held with Traditional Land Owners OR the residents and farmers whose properties and community are set to be wiped out by the Government’s costly and catastrophic virtue signalling.
The concept of hydropower may seem like a green solution, but it’s actually a dirty one.
Hydropower dams emit a huge amount of methane, endanger fish species, submerge prime agricultural land and uproot communities.
Some existing dams in the lowland Amazon have been shown to be 10 times more carbon intensive than coal fired power plants.
Over time, they can lead to drastically reduced fish populations. They also change water quality, insect populations, riverside plants, disrupt food production and the entire region’s ecosystem.
These facts alone should eliminate hydro-electricity as either a green OR low carbon energy option.
Written by: Stephen Andrew MP for Mirani

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 4:23 pm

Psays:
October 7, 2022 at 3:53 pm
Hurricane Ian Recovery, Day 7

Incredibly a week after Hurricane Ian took out the bridge connecting Pine Island to Cape Coral, the temporary bridge was finished and five semi tractors/trailers from Publix Supermarket were first to cross into Pine Island with relief supplies. {Direct Rumble Link} WATCH:

And where was the UN helping Pakistan and others? No where to be seen as usual.

cohenite
October 7, 2022 4:30 pm

Michael Mann, disgusting creep that he is (and I mean that in a metaphorical sense), being interviewed about the Florida hurricane and gushing that they are getting more intense due to global farting, a manifest lie, easily checked by reference to history.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 4:30 pm

A thief entered a house mid-afternoon. He tied up the woman and at gun point told the man to hand over the jewellery and money now! The man started sobbing and said “Brother, you can take anything you want, but please untie the rope and free her”. The thief says “You must really love your wife!” The man replied “No, she is my neighbour’s wife, mine will be home any second!”

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 7, 2022 4:30 pm

Things are going to get very bad for Putin in the long term, exactly how bad depends on how reckless he is in the short term. He is Ceacescu crossed with Mussolini at this point.

m0nty-fa the wrongologist has spoken, Putin is safe in his position.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 4:32 pm

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it’s just the opposite.

J- ohn Kenneth Galbraith

JC
JC
October 7, 2022 4:32 pm

Anyone know what was meant to have been done differently this time?

Yeah Hallward. Billions upon billions of dollars piled into research. Like almost everything else, massive investment into figuring something can pay dividends.
R&D is how humans attain new information and create new technologies. You should know this being a Nobel Prize winner.

I notice you’re Karl Denninger’ing the site. Nice!

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 7, 2022 4:33 pm

Peter O’Brien at Quadrant:

Stopping Sacrilege at the Australian War Memorial

Marty
October 7, 2022 4:34 pm

The Brittany Higgins case is in open court so everyone can see for themselves the holes that are opening up in the prosecution case. We don’t know what the outcome will be but I have to wonder if the Pell case would have played out differently if it too had been held in open court.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2022 4:36 pm

Billions upon billions of dollars piled into research.

Was it late 80’s or early 90’s there was a 150% tax rebate for research?
Before my time.
It should be brought back.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 4:36 pm

A cruise ship was wrecked in a storm, and the handful of survivors were washed up on a desert island without food or water.

When dawn came, they saw that the ship was washed up on a sandbar just a few hundred feet away.

However, the inlet was crawling with hungry sharks. The strongest young man volunteered to bring back the food. “I’m strong and I’m a good swimmer. I think I can make it”.

He dove in and give it his best shot, but the sharks devoured him before he had a chance to get close to the ship.

“I’m a clergyman” another man volunteered. “The Lord will protect His servant”.

But he too became shark chow.

Finally, a lawyer stepped forward. “I think I can get to the ship” he said.

Sure enough, as soon as he got into the water, a dozen sharks lined up and escorted his to and from the ship. He made the round trip unharmed and brought everyone some food.

“It’s a miracle!” several of the passengers shouted. “Nah, it’s no miracle” the lawyer replied. “It’s just professional courtesy”.

m0nty
m0nty
October 7, 2022 4:37 pm

What is Plan B if you’re wrong? At the moment, you’re having a sugar rush and think nothing can kill you. But what is the plan if UKR advances do not net any large gains while expending a lot of their manpower and materiel by early Nov, and RUS mobilisation and conserving of forces for a Winter Campaign nets them complete victory in the Donbas, and potentially Nikolayev and Odessa by March? Do you proceed to the table then if RUS are open to it, do you fight a purely defensive war from therein with a smaller manpower base, no seaport on the Black Sea, dwindling industrial capacity and a far more reluctant EU that has suffered a brutal winter, or do you escalate?

Sure, there is downside risk for NATO. Winter is coming, as they say in the classics. Russia could hold out in Kherson all winter.

I am pretty confident that NATO can outgun Russia with materiel. As for manpower… well, if Russia actually succeeds in a full mobilisation and there is no question it’s a war, then Plan B probably involves a NATO force of some kind.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 4:38 pm

If you talk to a man in a language he understands, that goes to his head. If you talk to him in his language, that goes to his heart.

– Nelson Mandela

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 7, 2022 4:40 pm

Britnah has a high opinion of herself and scant regard for others.
It’s looking as suspected, pissed and passed out in a ministerial office, hoping that a rope story would get her off the hook.
None of us will ever know what transpired between the two on that night but traumatising rope seems very unlikely considering her follow up behaviour.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2022 4:43 pm

Things are going to get very bad for Putin in the long term

Unlikely because in the long term he will be dead. Possibly in the short term too.
The comments about his agonizing abdominal pain lately are not a sign of longevity.
Whether any of that is actually true, though, I will have to leave to your investigational ability.

JC
JC
October 7, 2022 4:46 pm

Was it late 80’s or early 90’s there was a 150% tax rebate for research?
Before my time.
It should be brought back.

Yeah there was from memory and I think it had impact. Harry &Hoodwinkle here were going on for years that battery technology had reached a brick wall that couldn’t be broken. Musk and others are spending billions upon billions on battery tech and about a week ago Musk announced that they may have reached a point where rare earths may not be required with the likelihood costs will come down.

Meanwhile these two Einsteins were posting here we’d reached a limit. When this became too stupid to repeat, they’re now saying half the world in burning down because of massive battery fires.

R&D expenditure is how humans attain new technology and the outlay is really important.

JC
JC
October 7, 2022 4:51 pm

Musk, what a deadshit. Like what the fuck does he know about battery technology.

This is coming from back in July and since then there have been updates.

Elon Musk announced that Tesla sees potential in battery chemistry with a manganese-based cathode.

The CEO reiterated that the industry needs to focus more on the battery supply chain down to the minerals.

During a speech to Tesla Gigafactory Berlin employees following the delivery of the first Model Y made at the factory, Musk was asked about graphene-based batteries.

Like many others in the industry, Musk said he was skeptical due to the complexity of making graphene, but he did say that Tesla was working on making batteries out of more materials.

The CEO reiterated that for the foreseeable future Tesla, like the rest of the industry, will focus on nickel-based chemistries for longer-range vehicles and iron-phosphate for shorter-range vehicles.

But Musk added a brief but interesting comment about a manganese-based battery:

“I think there’s an interesting potential for manganese.”

Tesla has been exploring using more manganese in its battery cells for a while.

At Tesla Battery Day in 2020, Musk said

“It is relatively straightforward to do a cathode that’s two-third nickel and one-third manganese, which will allow us to make 50% more cell volume with the same amount of nickel.”

Today, the CEO didn’t elaborate beyond saying that Tesla was working on it, but it made it sound like it could be a solution along with nickel and iron-based chemistries.

“At very large scale, we need tens, maybe hundreds of millions of tons ultimately. So the materials used to produce these batteries at a very large scale need to be common materials or you can’t scale.”

Several research groups have published papers on promising manganese-rich cathode batteries that could offer interesting options with a higher energy density than iron-phosphate and potentially lower price than nickel-rich batteries.

Manganese is already used by Tesla in some battery chemistries, but it is not the prominent component of any of them.

For example, NMC chemistry used a lot of manganese, and Tesla has used the chemistry for its Powerwall before. Nissan also has used a manganese-rich cathode in the original battery of the Leaf.

The CEO reiterated the need to focus on battery mineral supply to accelerate the transition to electric transport and renewable energy.

Musk said that Tesla estimates that the world is going to need 300 terrawatt-hours of battery cell production in order to transition fully to a sustainable world.

MatrixTransform
October 7, 2022 4:53 pm

hey JC, did you learn everything you know about batteries from the internet?

Marter
October 7, 2022 4:54 pm

Billions upon billions of dollars piled into research. Like almost everything else, massive investment into figuring something can pay dividends.

Having done so, what was the motivation to admit it couldn’t be done safely and/or effectively?

The world was locked up until something appeared in a syringe. Billions spent on research, and as you say, something needed to pay those dividends.

Something was going to be found and approved. It didn’t need to work against Covid, it just needed to be marketable.

Politics in a syringe is what we ended up with.

JC
JC
October 7, 2022 4:55 pm

Battery technology upgrades with more R&D expenditure? Who knew.

Dover ought to ban Aristotle and Archimedes from ever fucking talking about battery tech again.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tesla-Model-3-pulls-35-miles-of-extra-range-after-its-LFP-battery-charge-display-drops-to-zero.660061.0.html

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 7, 2022 4:56 pm

1. Be it the dress, the bruise and the tapes, Higgins credibility has been torn apart and her testimony is highly questionable.

She’s handled it well, these guys get plenty of latitude from Judges in this type of Trial.

2. From the beginning, this was a political hit job, aimed at destroying the Liberal government.

Bullshit.
Wong, Keneally and Gallagher tried to make an issue of it but wiser heads shut them down.
Albanese only just fell over the line, if the 3 idiots had been allowed to pursue Morrison over his inconsistencies, Labor mighta ended up facing Peter Dutton and someone other than Barnaby Joyce, fucking their entire election strategy over.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2022 4:59 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

October 7, 2022 at 4:40 pm

Britnah has a high opinion of herself and scant regard for others.
It’s looking as suspected, pissed and passed out in a ministerial office, hoping that a rope story would get her off the hook.

Yep.
She’s a dim bulb, for sure, but even she would have realised that, if there wasn’t more to the story than a drunken spew-a-thon in the bosses office, she was clearing her desk on Monday morning.
Bruce was getting the arse anyway, so the rape story wasn’t going to do a lot of harm if it was kept under wraps and no-one spoke to the cops, right?
Except her new boyfriend and the media jackals weren’t going to let it go.
And here we are.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 5:00 pm

MatrixTransformsays:
October 7, 2022 at 4:53 pm
hey JC, did you learn everything you know about batteries from the internet?

JC is just a pompous windbag along with Stencho Pantyhose………………….

JR

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 7, 2022 5:03 pm

Old School Conservative at 3:32 – Wyatt was at law school when I was there in the mid 90’s. He is certainly cashing in his chips now.

m0nty
m0nty
October 7, 2022 5:03 pm

It’s funny how this is no longer about UKR and now simply about NATO.

Oh it was always about NATO. Russia is not afraid of Ukraine (maybe they should have been?) but they have always been afraid of NATO.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 7, 2022 5:05 pm

By golly Ed, I think you’re right.
The old professional grafters in Labor would have smelled out a newbie chancer like Britnah in an instant.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 7, 2022 5:05 pm

Board position at the West Coast Eagles. Harder to get than a mooring at Parker Point.

MatrixTransform
October 7, 2022 5:06 pm

pretty sure that quoting from press-releases makes JC smarter than he actually is

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2022 5:06 pm

A little boy came home from school and his homework assignment was to find out what the difference was between hypothetically and realistically, so he asked his dad. His dad said “Well, go ask your mum if she would sleep with the mail man for $1,000,000”. He went and asked and came back and said “She said yes”. “Well” said the dad “Go ask your sister the same question”. He did and came back and said “She said yes”. And the dad said “Now go ask your brother the same thing”. He did and came back and said “He said yes too!” And the dad said “Well hypothetically we’re sitting on three million dollars, realistically we’re living with 2 whores and a pooftah!”

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 7, 2022 5:09 pm

I am pretty confident that NATO can outgun Russia with materiel. As for manpower… well, if Russia actually succeeds in a full mobilisation and there is no question it’s a war, then Plan B probably involves a NATO force of some kind.

m0nty-fa still gagging (but not volunteering) for a war?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 7, 2022 5:09 pm

Sancho.
Do you reckon Britnah was also trying the ‘born again virgin’ routine with the new man to explain poor behaviour?

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 7, 2022 5:12 pm

m0nty says:
October 7, 2022 at 4:07 pm

Things are going to get very bad for Putin in the long term

Yes they will, and also for all Ukrainians, all Russians and all Europeans generally. There’s over 100,000 dead already and the war hasn’t started yet.

The sad thing is it was so pointless from the beginning. Russia and Ukraine made a deal, supported by Germany and France (the Minsk Agreement), which would have prevented all bloodshed. Ukraine agreed to recognise Russia’s sovereignty over Crimea and remain neutral, and Russia agreed to withdraw recognition of the separatist republics in the Donbas and Lugansk, and give free gas to Ukraine for five years.

Then the US and UK intervened and the Minsk Agreement was cancelled. Now Russia claims both the Donbas and Lugansk as parts of Russia, and has added Kherson and Zaporizhzhia as well.

Now we’re arrived at Putin’s dilemma. He knows that there will be no negotiated settlement as Zelensky is no more in charge of Ukraine as Joe Brandon is in the US, both are puppets who take orders from elsewhere. Russia can just hunker down and defend its annexed territory, but that will go on forever. That is the situation that Antony Blinken said prior to Russia’s first move into the Ukraine, “it will be a small incursion but a long war.”

Democrat Party donors must be repaid, two years bonanza for the pharmaceutical industry then two years at the trough for the military industry complex.

What will Putin do? He can stay in Blinken’s trap, or break out with massive force and take the whole of the Ukraine to end the war.

Which way will he go?

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 7, 2022 5:13 pm

The world’s greatest counterindicator has spoken. There’s no point discussing it further – Russia’s going to win.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2022 5:13 pm

Was it late 80’s or early 90’s there was a 150% tax rebate for research?
Before my time.
It should be brought back.

bern, JC.
Yes, there was.
And it was rorted mercilessly.

JC
JC
October 7, 2022 5:13 pm

Marter,

The jury is out whether the vax worked at least for the Alpha strain. There’s reasonable evidence that in fact it did. Granted, it has possibly been pathetic against the other two strains and that’s a reasonable observation. But we really don’t know. But here’s the thing, billions were spent and this was the first rel big shot (no pun intended) across the bow against the corona viruses. It’s just the beginning and not the end.

I have tremendous faith in human ability. Sure, I agree with you that the way it was handled, in the sense that the pharma companies were given cover in terms of legal problems, may have given them a cop out. However, I would also say folks panicked and we know the end result. It was panic stations in 2020.

There is also a reasonable argument that while the vax may not have been effective against contagion it introduced the virus into the human body and thereby possibly avoiding shock with eventual contraction and severity.

The point is that Hallward was implying with that comment… “oh ho, lot’s of money was spent and what have we got in return” is typical of the miserable empty headed limey contrarion fuckwit.

R&D expenditure begets new information and technology.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 7, 2022 5:13 pm

Was it late 80’s or early 90’s there was a 150% tax rebate for research?
Before my time. It should be brought back.

No it should not – research (like any other endeavour) should sink or swim on its merits.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 7, 2022 5:15 pm

Worse than 10BA movies and Howard’s blue gums.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 7, 2022 5:15 pm

Herald Sun on Higgins
Brittany Higgins is being cross-examined on the witness stand as the first week of the trial for the man accused of raping her in Parliament House is coming to a close.

Bruce Lehrmann has pleaded not guilty to one count of sexual intercourse without consent against Ms Higgins in the early hours of March 23, 2019.

The cross-examination of Ms Higgins began on Thursday afternoon and has continued today, with Mr Lehrmann’s lawyer, Steven Whybrow, questioning the former Liberal staffer on a number of matters.
Ms Higgins has been questioned about a more than $320,000 book deal Lisa Wilkinson’s husband, Peter FitzSimons, helped her secure.

The court heard Mr Whybrow suggest that Ms Higgins had been outlining chapters for a potential book before she had sat down for her first recorded interview with police in February 2021.

The court heard that Ms Higgins received contact on March 16, 2021, that a publisher was interested in publishing her account of events.

Ms Higgins told the court she met Mr FitzSimons at an event and he told her that she should write a book and within a day had come back with an offer.

She said she didn’t ask him about a book deal, saying “he approached me”.

Mr Whybrow said Ms Higgins received contact on March 16 that indicated a publisher was prepared to offer more than $320,000 for a book deal.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 7, 2022 5:16 pm

Oppositions throwing mud get punished at the ballot box.
Labor only just fell over the line in May, they were always going to win, so why nail Morrison for lying to Parliament and force a change to Dutton?

Brittany didn’t understand how politics works, and she’s learning the hard way.
Clearly the Defence have received quite a bit of help from the Liberal Party, the pic of Brittany in the White dress sitting next to Reynolds at the birthday party, for instance?

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 7, 2022 5:17 pm

Fitzsimons in on it. FMD

Lee
Lee
October 7, 2022 5:18 pm

Things are going to get very bad for Putin in the long term, exactly how bad depends on how reckless he is in the short term. He is Ceacescu crossed with Mussolini at this point.

m0nty-fa the wrongologist has spoken, Putin is safe in his position.

Acquaintances of one my sisters are from Ukraine, and they still have relatives and friends over there.
When someone suggested to them something along the lines that “hopefully someone will bump off Putin”, these Ukrainians were horrified, and replied, “oh no, then he’ll be replaced by someone much worse!”

Just saying.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 7, 2022 5:19 pm

Always a good idea to go to the cops before you nut out the book deal.

Marter
October 7, 2022 5:19 pm

The jury is out whether the vax worked at least for the Alpha strain. There’s reasonable evidence that in fact it did.

All I saw was a virus following its natural progression, and the associated variations in consequence.

People (on both sides) will see what they want to see, but my analysis didn’t fill me with faith.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 7, 2022 5:21 pm

Further:
The court heard that Ms Higgins replied in a message to Mr FitzSimons and Ms Wilkinson saying she was “blown away” and “can absolutely do this”.
The court heard Ms Higgins said she knew it sounded “presumptuous” but she had outlined chapters planned for about a month or so before completing her first police interview in 2021.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2022 5:21 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

October 7, 2022 at 5:09 pm

Sancho.
Do you reckon Britnah was also trying the ‘born again virgin’ routine with the new man to explain poor behaviour?

Possible.
I am reminded of Nortius Maximus from Life of Brian.
“You were raped?”
“Well … at first.”

JC
JC
October 7, 2022 5:21 pm

JC is just a pompous windbag along with Stencho Pantyhose………………….

JR

MatrixTransform says:
October 7, 2022 at 5:06 pm

pretty sure that quoting from press-releases makes JC smarter than he actually is

Rotten, stick to trolling the site with stupid jokes.

Magic Marvin, you’re a real keeper.

Dover, are the above examples of the senseless abuse you wanted to move to the duel thread or not so much?

Here’s my humble suggestion. Give Johnny Dangerfield his own thread for joke trolling and instruct Magic Marvin he’s only allowed to post at the duel thread as he’s fucking useless anywhere else. You may also allow him some time on the group therapy thread as he appears to want to talk about his personal issues.

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