Open Thread – Tues 4 Oct 2022
2,499 responses to “Open Thread – Tues 4 Oct 2022”
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the lack of contemporaneous forensic evidence of an assault this will be a key point
There doesn’t seem to be any evidence confirming Higgins’ identification of Lehrmann as the man who raped her (other than the cab ride to the parliament, but he was not the only man in the parliament that evening).
It could be the case that neither is lying, just Higgins is mistaken, conflating the rapist with the man who was with her earlier that evening. A not unlikely mistake, given her admitted state of inebriation.
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HAHAHA
This director ID stuff is pretty hilarious. Shonks will simply refer to themselves as “Silver Service Finance Trustees” or “Double Diamond Share Market Partners”. They can simply choose to not commit this “crime”.
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Offence
Legislative section
Maximum penalties for individuals
Failure to have a director ID when required to do so
s1272C
$13,200 (criminal); $1,100,000 (civil)
Failure to apply for a director ID when directed by the Registrar
s1272D
$13,200 (criminal); $1,100,000 (civil)
Applying for multiple director IDs
s1272G
$26,640, 1 year imprisonment or both (criminal); $1,100,000 (civil)
Misrepresenting director ID
s1272H
$26,640, 1 year imprisonment or both (criminal); $1,100,000 (civil)
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It then occurred to me. It’s the new religion. Where once you would visit a significant church, you now pay homage to technology as saviour.
Yes, alas.
The Existential Despair of ‘Godification’ (Daniel Greenfield, 4 Oct)
When we stopped believing in G-d, we started believing we had to become gods.
It’s along sad essay, but very very accurate.
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What if parliament is not sitting?
If it’s that important, the pollies can all be back in Canberra to vote.
An extraordinary sitting would have to be called which, along with the debate process, could delay a deployment and thereby increase the mortal risk to the forces being deployed.
No war is being won or lost based on Australia participating days or a couple of weeks later than others.
What if, for example, the Greens and likeminded other pacifists held the balance of power in both houses? The nation could be paralysed at a time of dire need for decisive action.
You’re overstating Australia’s importance.
But the good news is, based on the Ukrainian precedent, if Australian’s feel so inclined they can get on the first plane to the war zone to volunteer.
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AFL club CEO stands down over Christian beliefs
And this is where Catholic and Christian news sites always lose.
He didn’t fucking “stand down!!!” He was given an ultimatum!!!
If I were the subby, I’d be writing a heading like “Essendon Bigots Destroy Career” or “Essendon CEO Fired and Looking for Work”
A smart tweeter-er I know pointed out to me that when he was head of NAB, he oversaw them putting up wainbow fwags in branches and continued their diwersity programs… hardly a “hater”
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Ed Case says:
October 5, 2022 at 6:37 pm
But there’s no physical evidence the assault took place.
You can’t know that.
The prosecutor outlines the case to be presented in his opening address. This includes an outline of the evidence to be presented. The prosecutor made no mention of there being physical evidence.
The accused has claimed that there is no sex involved in the encounter. If the prosecution has positive dna evidence then there is little point in making such a claim. In the presence of dna evidence the accused would to establish consent.
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rosie says:
October 5, 2022 at 5:09 pmI didn’t realise that 2020 and 2021 were a walk in the park for the vaccinated, lockdowns, curfews, ring of steel, 5km limits, allowed outside for an hour of day of continuous walking, no church services for months, no baptisms, no birthdays, no seeing new babies and new mums interstate, no visitors in hospital for family facing life threatening illnesses and major surgeries, elderly relatives stuck in aged care with no family for months on end.
Yep it was all just a barrel of fun for those who got vaccinated.
Talk about history revisions.In 2020 that was the case for everyone.
If, after the 22nd Feb 2021 when vaccines became available in Australia, a person chose to get one then the situation as described above changed markedly for the better.
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I do, however, know of a guy who got done in similar (but consensual) circumstances – some family I know have a distant cousin who got into this situation and what got him dunnit was that he sent the lady a text the following day that said “sorry about last night, I hope you’re ok.”
The jury took that as admission of guilt.
Don’t know him but poor guy got 4 years (even after she admitted enticing him to bed ffs!).
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“If, after the 22nd Feb 2021 when vaccines became available in Australia, a person chose to get one then the situation as described above changed markedly for the better.”
That did not happen on 22 February 2021, lockdowns were the same for everyone in Melbourne/Victoria until the end of September 2021.
The employment situation was different, as I’ve already said.
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Re the Britnah case, for Googlery:
.1 There are no eye-witnesses to the alleged rape (apart from the complainant);
.2 There is no other recorded evidence (phone video or audio, CCTV) of a rape;
.3 There is no crime-scene forensic evidence (semen, blood etc).
.4 There is no personal evidence (commonly known as rape kit evidence); and
.5 Ricky Slater isn’t coming back. -
If, after the 22nd Feb 2021 when vaccines became available in Australia, a person chose to get one then the situation as described above changed markedly for the better.
Stop the bullshit. No it didn’t. People were locked down and had to follow stay in place rules. We couldn’t travel to some states even with the Vax. You’re hallucinating.
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‘I was deprived of my liberty in an unnecessary and undignified way’: Gender-critical Catholic mother blasts Surrey Police who ‘swooped on her home and arrested her in front of her traumatised children without a warrant over series of “malicious” posts’
The row stems from a series of anonymous posts shared on forums on Kiwi Farms in June – in which Mrs Farrow is accused of posting ‘malicious’ content and ‘harassing’ other users on the online platform.
A spokesperson for Surrey Police said officers attended the address in Guildford as part of a probe into ‘allegations of malicious communications and harassment’ , adding that officers ‘seized a number of electronic devices’.How could that be?
We’ve been informed by others here that because it’s ‘anonymous’ one can’t be guilty of online harassment. So how far back does the accusation go to still be criminal? And do our laws/regulations cover this like the British laws do?Mrs Farrow was investigated by the same police force in 2019 over allegations she had used the wrong pronoun to describe a transgender woman.
The Catholic campaigner, known for her deeply held religious views, and Susie Green, the head of transgender children’s charity Mermaids, clashed on ITV’s Good Morning Britain about Girl Guides allowing children who have changed gender to join the organisation.
Mrs Farrow later called Ms Green’s daughter Jackie ‘him’ instead of ‘her’ on Twitter and said Mermaids promoted child abuse. Five weeks later, Ms Green complained to police.
One of Mrs Farrow’s tweets read: ‘What she did to her own son [the youngest person in the world to undergo transgender surgery] is illegal. She mutilated him by having him castrated and rendered sterile while still a child.’So here we are:
Using the ‘wrong’ pronouns can have you arrested.
Your religious beliefs are subordinate to and cancelled by a sociopaths mental and emotional confusion.
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That did not happen on 22 February 2021, lockdowns were the same for everyone in Melbourne/Victoria until the end of September 2021.
The employment situation was different, as I’ve already said.
remember when the entire building industry was locked down in greater Melbourne?no they were not
I work in the building industry
and I went to work
and when I got there
lo and behold, there were other workers there as wellrosie, try to stop
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Stonnington council is reviewing its rental agreement with controversial church City On A Hill which uses the council-owned Phoenix Park Community Centre in Malvern East.
The innereast council is concerned the church’s views on LGBTIQA+ rights may not align with Stonnington’s Action Plan and commitment to “ inclusion, equality, and pride in the diversity”.
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and also working were the building and site managers
the cleaners
and for the most part, so were the shops (at least where they weren’t already out of business)
Maccas did not close
Kenny’s bakery kept pumping out sausage rolls and Bahn Mi
and the wholesalers were wholesaling
Bunnings were Bunnins-ing with their very clever one-way in and one-way out
the polis were still policing
and IGA had breadhow.the.fuck.did.IGA.have.bread?
locked down my arse
the only lock-down was in your minds
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Brittany Higgins had her first vodka at 7:24pm, after four and a half hours she was pictured on CCTV skolling another, believed to be her 11th
Impressive! as a seasoned professional alcoholic, tho a beer drinker, 4 and a half hours would have put me on about the 16th schooner ……. always found the 1st 2 (of the day) the slowest before settling into a 4* an hour standard …….
* not as expensive as it sounds given that beer was 63cents a schooner (public bar) the day I stopped + being prepared to play the fool always ensured I paid for very few .. amazing how many mugs actually believed the drunk was the fool .. LOL!
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I regard the “Local Government Areas of concern” the worst time in NSW for the worst restrictions and most divisive.
Helicopters overhead in these areas around 9pm every night during curfews
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JC says:
October 5, 2022 at 8:17 pmIs that your a birthday, bush?
I post a quote from you which cites a time period and underneath that I post an alternate date, obviously in reference to your quote and you turn on the snark.
I don’t give a rats what everyone was or wasn’t ignoring in January. The fact is that most of the restrictions were only lifted on April 22.
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Ed Casesays:
October 5, 2022 at 6:37 pm
But there’s no physical evidence the assault took place.You can’t know that.
Neither can you, but there has been no mention of such. Do you think that the Cane Toad would not have babbled about it if she knew it existed?
As stated yesterday, unless Mizz Higgins did not take a shower/bath on the days between the alleged incident and her “informal” talk with the police, or unless she kept, unwashed, the clothes she wore on the night, there seems little chance of physical evidence being available.
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MatrixTransform says:
October 5, 2022 at 8:30 pmI’d like to see it because in Victoria no one requires evidence of vaccination for work any longer.
bullshit
Employers still may, but I don’t believe it’s required any longer by law in Victoria. If your employer still requires it then the matter is between on and the boss, Champ.
Again, if you make an assertion then show proof or otherwise just stfu.
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Can an employer require their employees to get vaccinated in Victoria?
In general, employees must comply with lawful and reasonable directions from their employer. Whether an employer’s direction to get a COVID-19 vaccination is lawful and reasonable will depend on the circumstances.If an employee is covered by a Mandatory Vaccination Order, and cannot perform their work at home, then their employer can require them to be vaccinated.
Where there is no legal requirement for an employer to have vaccinated staff, or if an employee can perform their work from home, then whether an employer can impose vaccination requirements will depend on the circumstances of each case.
The above from here.
In other words, yes.
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From one of my recent threads from a Vic Cat:
mc says:
September 14, 2022 at 12:26 pm
On Monday this week it was announced at my place of employment that we have 4 weeks to prove that our COVID vaccines status is “up to date” – meaning booster every 6 months, or face disciplinary action. I took leave at half pay for 5 months to wait for Novavax (reluctantly) and now they announce this 2 days before my “vaccine runs out”. Just got off the phone telling my boss I will be leaving.And that just one of many I know of.
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What exactly am I wrong about, Hallward?
Here’s the excerpt again.
Ermey explains that a daisy cutter is a civilian term for the worlds largest conventional bomb, known as the BLU 82 or Big Blue 82. This bomb was first used in Vietnam to clear landing zones for helicopters and is the size of a small car.
If you disagree then take it up with Ermey or just go to the abuse thread to make shit up. Now bugger off.
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Higgins didn’t see a doctor after alleged rape
Remy Varga
REMY VARGAMs Higgins said she didn’t see a doctor and took a pregnancy test in Perth about halfway through the 2019 election.
She said Mr Dillaway, a friend and former partner, urged her to see a doctor in the days after the alleged rape. Ms Higgins said she told him she went to a GP to reassure him but said she only went to see a doctor after the election but said the visit was more about addressing her mental health.
“I was prescribed anxiety medication to help me cope,” she said.
Ms Higgins said she had made it hard to verify the alleged assault before breaking down in tears, in the second police interview.
“I’m so stupid,” she said.
Ms Higgins said she and Mr Dillaway briefly rekindled their relationship after the alleged assault.
Ms Higgins said she remembered being nice to Mr Lehrmann in the office when she returned to work on the Monday after the alleged rape.
She said she was “scared of this person in a position of power over me” and they didn’t really speak other than the day-to-day operations of work. Ms Higgins described it as a “weird standoff” and she was still in shock and hadn’t fully processed what had happened.
Ms Higgins said she was at the “bottom of the food chain” in the office.
She remembered “being nice” to her alleged ropist when she returned to work the Monday after the (alledged) rope.
Straw poll amongst Kittehs – who would have crowned him with the nearest heavy object?
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On Monday this week it was announced at my place of employment that we have 4 weeks to prove that our COVID vaccines status is “up to date” – meaning booster every 6 months, or face disciplinary action. I took leave at half pay for 5 months to wait for Novavax (reluctantly) and now they announce this 2 days before my “vaccine runs out”. Just got off the phone telling my boss I will be leaving.
Show evidence of the actual government order. I maybe wrong as my business partner misled me. As far as I know the government order for vaccination is no longer exists,.
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MatrixTransform says:
October 5, 2022 at 8:39 pmif you make an assertion
that I went to work?
you wanna see the work orders, invoices or balance sheet?
you really are a bit of a mong mate
FMD, you’re stupid. I said show evidence the state government requires proof of vaccination. If you’re going into abuse mode then toddle off either to the duel thread or for more therapy.
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Some outstanding Wedge wipeouts. These waves literally break boards in half. Great laughs.
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Ed Casesays:
October 5, 2022 at 7:55 pm
It’s kinda sad, these conservatives not only want to hide under the blankets for the rest of their lives, they want everybody else to do likewise.Richard Cranium
Perhaps you could post some evidence to support this bland assertion? Or is it just the product of your “progressive” imagination?
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Show evidence of the actual government order.
Whirrrrrrrrrrrr.
That’s the tape rewinding:JC says:
October 5, 2022 at 8:24 pmAny evidence to this claim? I’d like to see it because in Victoria no one requires evidence of vaccination for work any longer.
Screeeeeeeeeech.
That’s the sound of the goal posting being moved:JC says:
October 5, 2022 at 8:34 pmEmployers still may, but I don’t believe it’s required any longer by law in Victoria. If your employer still requires it then the matter is between on and the boss, Champ.
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Show evidence of the actual government order.
BTW:
https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/worker-vaccination-requirements
Still current.
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Indolent:
Now watch as the doctors leave California…
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That’s not the sound of the goal being moved. That’s just the sound of you being unable to accept you’re wrong again.
I know it’s may be difficult for you to appreciate the difference, Marter. That’s because you’ve only worked in the public sphere. However there is a difference between what a government requires and what employers in the private sector demand.
I don’t give a shit what private employers demand prior to employment. That’s between employer and employee. However, I do care when the government makes it law. That’s when I care.
If employers make it a condition, that’s between you and them.
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Mater says:
October 5, 2022 at 8:54 pmShow evidence of the actual government order.
BTW:
https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/worker-vaccination-requirements
Still current.
No it’s not. It ended on 22 June when only healthcare and aged care workers are required now.
Seriously, you’re fucking terrible with links.
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JC says:
October 5, 2022 at 8:24 pm132andBush says:
October 5, 2022 at 8:21 pm
The situation re vaccination status is ongoing for a lot of people wrt work.
It’s just all happening in the background now.Any evidence to this claim? I’d like to see it because in Victoria no one requires evidence of vaccination for work any longer.
Isn’t there still a requirement for Victorian teachers to show proof of a third shot, i.e., no booster – no job?
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Archbishop Comensoli should escalate and question Andrews on his Catholicism.
Farmer Gez, I believe Andrews already announced some time ago that he is no longer a practicing Catholic and doesn’t care. However, it should still be pursued on the grounds of discrimination, Christians are discriminated against on the basis of their religion. Archbishop Comensoli better get his skates on and join the Christian struggle of our time.
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Ms Higgins said she told him she went to a GP to reassure him but said she only went to see a doctor after the election but said the visit was more about addressing her mental health.
“I was prescribed anxiety medication to help me cope,” she said.
the morning after walk of shame will do that to some
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