2,505 thoughts on “Open Thread – Tues 4 Oct 2022”

  1. On the road to Skye today.

    There was a glorious blue sky over Scapa Flow yesterday. Crossed the Churchill barriers and learned their history. A green buoy marks the final resting place of the Royal Oak, the only ship in the harbour when the U boat crept in. It was filled with very young sailors – trainees, as young as 16.

    The bell is in St Magnus, Kirkwall, along with the honour roll. A page is turned every Monday.

    The Neolithic sites were worth a look. We enjoyed viewing Scara Brae to the drifting sound of bagpipes – the laird of the big house on the hill was getting married.


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  2. Poor old Brits are still entrapped in the tentacles of The Borg:

    5:16

    BRUSSELS (AP) – Leaders from more than 40 countries meeting in the Czech capital Thursday are set to launch a “European Political Community” aimed at boosting security and prosperity across the continent. But critics claim the new forum is an attempt to put the brakes on European Union enlargement.

    The Prague meeting is the brainchild of French President Emmanuel Macron and is backed by German Chancellor Olaf Scholz. It´s taking place with Russia´s war on Ukraine in its eighth month and as pressure builds to allow Ukraine to join the 27-nation EU.

    “The war in Ukraine and the legitimate aspiration of its people, just like that of Moldova and Georgia, to join the European Union, encourages us to rethink our geography and the organization of our continent,” Macron said in May in a speech outlining his idea.

    The point is, there is Liz hobnobbing with people who want to create a new European outfit. Her previous as being anti-Brexit is showing.

    It’s not as if there isn’t work to be done at home. On recent polls, her lot would be destroyed.


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  3. Tom says:
    October 6, 2022 at 6:26 pm

    Brittny Higgins seems to have turned against Lisa Wilkinson and Samantha Maiden.

    Higgins sounds to me like just another Greens-voting radical, who saw her employment with the Stupid Fucking Liberals as an excellent opportunity to torpedo the enemy.

    Ridiculous. You and St Ruth need to get a room.

    Airheads like her are everywhere in Ministerial offices. No conspiracy required.


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  4. Let me see if I got this right. Some AFL coaches are being accused of advising their players to pay for their girlfriends’ abortions which is horrendous and the coaches must be shunned.

    Then there is an AFL club CEO who is against abortions and thinks they are an abomination which is also horrendous and he must be shunned.

    What am I missing?


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  5. “When the pride round comes up in the AFLW in a couple of weeks, how could he have honestly stood there and encouraged the sentiment around pride round?”

    DB:
    Koch says the quiet part out loud, the ‘pride’ round is an ideological test.

    I remember when the only thing that mattered to any football club, coach, player, the board and member/supporter base was whether the team won and whether it would qualify to play in the GF.

    A few weeks ago – before the finals – Tim Blair, a former ‘pies supporter, reported that at the beginning of the year he decided to give up watching footy altogether because it had “gone woke.” He said that he hadn’t missed it at all.

    If nothing else, the Andrew Thorburn affair has shown how far football has moved away from what is its only reason for being – the nurture and support of the game of Australian Rules for the fans – and become a vacuous, self-promoting, 1/2 moral police, 1/2 power-hungry censor of anything that corporate Australia doesn’t like.

    Perhaps, like Tim Blair, it’s time to walk away.


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  6. flyingduksays:
    October 6, 2022 at 5:45 pm
    There seems to a distinct difference between wartime and peacetime generals.
    Peacetime generals can’t survive a war. Wartime generals can’t get promoted in peacetime.

    It was ever thus, and is why the West generally loses the first year of any major war – it takes that long to root out all the peace generals.

    There is a bit in the memoirs of Britain’s wartime CIGS, FM Alanbrooke, in which he describes looking through the Army List in a desperate, and largely unsuccessful, attempt to find competent generals to command divisions and corps.

    He became CIGS in December 1941, more than two years into the war. Not sure what specific period he was referring to, maybe the whole period from early 1942 to 1945?


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  7. A year into WW1, the German leadership gathered together for a meeting, and were told that the war was unwinnable. They then proceeded for four more years despite having that knowledge, because they knew if they lost they would be strung up from lampposts.

    Sources, please.
    Sounds like urban myth to me.


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  8. m0ntysays:
    October 6, 2022 at 6:00 pm
    Bruce it isn’t the efficacy of the weapon it is the message it carries. Use it once to demonstrate willingness to use it again and again(The Nagasaki message). In that scenario Ukraine would be forced to surrender because Western allies would stop providing weapons and demand Ukraine reach a settlement. Despite many complaining about how weak and effete the West has become it’s not shying away from the fight but nukes might change their minds.

    That is not how it would go down, John H.

    The Trump era has been one long escalation after another by bad faith bullies trying to bluster their way past their own failings, but a nuke is not something the world can ignore.

    The Chickenhawk m0nty-fa is prepared to have others fight WW III for Ukraine.


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  9. given the decrepitude of the Russian military and its equipment

    Huh? Russia has actually kept its nuclear arsenal up to date. For example, Sarmat entered service just this year.

    It is the US that has allowed its nuclear arsenal to become “decrepit”.


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  10. John H

    At the start of WW2 Marshall dismissed many generals etc. They were old and tired, too hidebound by the past, and he wanted fresh blood and go getters, not old codgers. In peacetime many were promoted through retirement not ability.

    Marshall was elevated above some 400 officers higher than him on the seniority list. Many probably resigned in protest?


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  11. I expect Mrs Pirate Pete and the CBS Australia lawyers would he hoping the whole thing collapses. It would have been helpful to sit on everything for 30 years and allow the dramatis personae time to die or disappear.


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  12. Airheads like her are everywhere in Ministerial offices. No conspiracy required.

    Johanna, there it is, the whole nub of the problem. What are these airheads doing in government? It seems the governments of both parties are guilty and have descended into this teenage out of angst.

    I would propose that nobody under the age of 50 is allowed to be a staffer just so there are some responsible people there.


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  13. On ridiculous car taxation via 40 kmh “speeding” fines, I now drive with Waze turned on all the time.
    Gives me a lot of shit I don’t need, but has never failed to “Bing-Bong!” me when there is a revenue camera ahead.


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  14. Ed Casesays:
    October 6, 2022 at 6:07 pm
    George C Marshall was probably a traitor to America, so those Generals he sacked were likely the good ones and those he kept were the duds.
    And that’s how it panned out.

    Richard Cranium

    The gluten is affecting your brain (such as it is).


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  15. Crossing the top of Scotland just now – we have left the coast behind and entering a land of hills and heather and rugged outcrops. Little tarns glimmer in the folds as the sun peeps out from rain- clogged clouds.

    A great green peak to the left, back-lit with blue and crowned with a rainbow.

    Beautiful country.


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  16. I expect Mrs Pirate Pete and the CBS Australia lawyers would he hoping the whole thing collapses.

    Humphrey, the Ten Network is a CBS tax dodge. Of course CBS wants the case to collapse — anything to prevent another $1-10 million in legal expenses. Much better to have budgeted accountancy expenses.


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  17. Had a lot of Cafe fun today. A couple days ago the newest noisy miner chick, who is full-on alpha, started to accept food from my hand. That was great, but today he went beyond all expectations and jumped onto arm. That’s a first for noisy miners, they normally don’t like my icky hairy arms. Eww.

    Young noisy did this several times today, with such alacrity I tried a short time ago for a photo. Came out pretty well. Only got the one. First time in ten years of trying.


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  18. Both the Liars and the Liborals allow the kiddies to run around Parliament after some undergraduate political bullshit. The best of them are then preselected for some safe seat. Liars are expected to do a stint stacking branches or union elections – and not get caught.


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  19. Did anyone see that bunch of western woman – minor(?) celebs, I think, – cutting their hair today in solidarity with the women of Iran?

    There was one Iraqi-born Swedish(?) female politician who seems to have got the ball rolling by cutting quite a bit of her hair off during a speech.

    All the others were a bunch of also-rans – compelled to do something significant but concerned about how they’d look on the next cover of some dumb mag. Hence, they took the smallest amount from the least consequential area – it was a really historic moment /sarc.


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  20. Of course CBS wants the case to collapse — anything to prevent another $1-10 million in legal expenses.

    Not making a lotta sense there.
    Whattabout Rolfey?
    Wasn’t the NT Police hierarchy quaking with fear over some civil suit he was gonna bring on?


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  21. BREAKING: EXPOSED: $105 million Liberal partnership with WEF laid bare

    Conservative MP and two-time leadership contender Leslyn Lewis uncovered the admission in an Order Paper question signed by Transportation Minister Omar Alghabra.

    In the response, Transport Canada admitted the WEF is one of several partners for the federal government’s Known Traveler Digital Identity (KTDI) Project, which will cost $105.3 million over five years.

    “It’s no longer a conspiracy theory – it’s a contractual fact,” Lewis wrote on Twitter.

    They won’t be satisfied until we are all identified like the cattle they take us for.


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  22. Bruce, the cockies are wheeling and shrieking and the maggies are carolling for the first time in days.

    It has stopped raining.

    Not for long though.


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  23. “Higgins sounds to me like just another Greens-voting radical, who saw her employment with the Stupid Fucking Liberals as an excellent opportunity to torpedo the enemy.

    Since she conceived of this court case as a gotcha, I would be astonished if it doesn’t collapse — even with a credulous ACT judge and jury.”

    I’m not making any excuses for Higgins, however I think she’s allowed herself to be used, beginning with her current partner Sharaz plus various MSM scum, like Wilkinson and Maiden (Maiden’s was also involved in the Porter lynching). Mind you Higgins is 27…she isn’t 18. If I recall correctly, Sharaz once worked as an advisor to one or two Greens and Labor politicians however I’m happy to be corrected on that. I think it’s becoming very clear that he’s the scheming Svengali behind the scenes who pushed her to reveal this “story” to Mrs Pirate.

    Conspiracy or no conspiracy, one thing I’m sure of, and that is that Wilkinson and Maiden saw Higgins’ story as a near perfect cudgel to use against the inept Morrison government. Neither women give a rat’s arse about Higgins, and if Higgins thinks that these two grotesque females will be there for her in a year or two, she’ got another thing coming, and the sad thing is that Higgins in a few years will probably find herself cast adrift, not just by Wilkinson and Maiden, but also by her current partner.


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  24. Also – how is Putin going to stop the radiation from blowing into NATO territory?

    The wind in Ukraine generally does not blow from the east. Depending on the season it can be from the north, south or east, but only very rarely does it not blow towards Russian territories.


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  25. Daniel Andrews “doesn’t want to debate” Archbishop of Melbourne Peter Comensoli, who said Andrews’s comments on the Thorburn matter were divisive and dangerous, but he then proceeds to tell the archbishop what Catholicism is – “social justice” with no transcendent dimension at all and no moral teaching other than “inclusivity”.

    I don’t know if Andrews attends Mass, he probably does as his children, as he never fails to point out, attend Catholic schools, but if he were to do so and was refused communion I can imagine how he’d carry on.


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  26. Whether there is proof that Higgins was raped is a matter for the jury after assessing the evidence, at the end of the trial. And there is evidence that she was raped, almost entirely comprised of her statements in court and in out of court statements. This is why her credibility and reliability as a witness of truth is so critical. Bases for powerful attacks are clearly evident, but will the jury reject them and believe her? The Crown will point to her various explanations, however improbable they are.

    The jury may however approach the matter on the basis that the ‘victim’ of the allegation of rape must be believed. (The very description of the complainant as a victim supports this theory.) This theory is now widely propagated. It was the repeated starting point of PM Morrison’s widely reported comment on the matter. He did add, as an afterthought, that there would need to be a trial. That qualification is rarely added to the mantra “believe the victim”. Pell might have been convicted in this way, and Lehrmann might too. The jury might already have made a decision to convict.

    In his opening, Crown prosecutor Drumgold told the jury that it was them to believe Lehrmann’s story. This is fundamentally wrong. It reverses the burden of proof and ignores the beyond reasonable doubt test. The defence need only convince the jury that on all the evidence it was reasonably possible that Higgins was not raped.


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  27. Sources, please.
    Sounds like urban myth to me.

    I linked this story last week, here’s the relevant passage (my bolding):

    According to Goemans, democrats tended to respond to the information delivered by the war and act accordingly; at the very worst, if they lost the war but their country still existed, they would get turned out of office and go on a book tour. Dictators, because they had total control of their domestic audience, could also end wars when they needed to. After the first Gulf War, Saddam Hussein was such a leader; he simply killed anyone who criticized him. The trouble, Goemans found, lay with the leaders who were neither democrats nor dictators: because they were repressive, they often met with bad ends, but because they were not repressive enough, they had to think about public opinion and whether it was turning on them. These leaders, Goemans found, would be tempted to “gamble for resurrection,” to continue prosecuting the war, often at greater and greater intensity, because anything short of victory could mean their own exile or death. He reminded me that on November 17, 1914—four months after the First World War began—Kaiser Wilhelm II met with his war cabinet and concluded that the war was unwinnable. “Still, they fought on for another four years,” Goemans said. “And the reason was that they knew that if they lost they would be overthrown, there would be a revolution.” And they were right. Leaders like these were very dangerous. According to Goemans, they were the reason that the First World War, and many others, had dragged on much longer than they should have.



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  28. Daniel Andrews “doesn’t want to debate” Archbishop of Melbourne Peter Comensoli, who said Andrews’s comments on the Thorburn matter were divisive and dangerous, but he then proceeds to tell the archbishop what Catholicism is – “social justice” with no transcendent dimension at all and no moral teaching other than “inclusivity”.

    Dictator Dan’s narcissism, smugness, and hypocrisy know no bounds.


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  29. Ed Casesays:
    October 6, 2022 at 6:07 pm
    George C Marshall was probably a traitor to America, so those Generals he sacked were likely the good ones and those he kept were the duds.
    And that’s how it panned out.

    LOL.

    I have a friend in the US whose doctoral thesis was on Marshall’s selection process.


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  30. Tomsays:
    October 6, 2022 at 6:26 pm
    Brittny Higgins seems to have turned against Lisa Wilkinson and Samantha Maiden.

    Higgins sounds to me like just another Greens-voting radical, who saw her employment with the Stupid Fucking Liberals as an excellent opportunity to torpedo the enemy.

    So, not that different to most of the Coalition Party Room?

    And how many other “advisors” and staffers are the same slimy entryists?


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  31. Indolentsays:
    October 6, 2022 at 7:43 pm
    Will Australia?

    DI LEO: WILL AMERICA HEED THE ENERGY WARNING FROM ABROAD?

    Judging by the people I work with, plenty of ordinary people are well aware. The morons in government on the other hand….


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  32. I was, and still am, appalled that the Brinny trial would run over several weeks. How could the lawyers let it even happen? Excellent updates, you lot. You speeding criminals need to use Bruce’ legal team.
    And

    A 13-year old boy and seven other teenagers have been committed for trial over the alleged stabbing murder of Declan Cutler, 16.

    If you do a search and another search and then another and then just one more you find the words “African gang” on about page 17.


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  33. Message from Archbishop Peter Comensoli:

    Let me be crystal clear.

    Unborn children, the most vulnerable among us because they have no voice of their own, have only ourselves to make the plea for their just protection.

    Let me be equally clear, faithful and fruitful marital covenants, which men and women freely enter into, also deserve our committed support and encouragement.

    I hold these beliefs, and always have, and so do many others, because they speak to the good of our humanity.

    To hold these beliefs does not mean I am excused from pursuing the good of people who hold differing beliefs, or who struggle to live by such beliefs. Everybody matters, and the good of everybody matters. Unborn children and expectant mothers both matter. My efforts to ensure this are the measure of my commitment to the common good of all.

    What is this common good? It is the pursuit of the good of everyone, while also pursuing the good of each individually. It is where justice and mercy meet, so that all may live and flourish.

    There has been little evidence of the common good being pursued by the leadership of the Essendon Football Club over the last couple of days. It has been a polarising and divisive time, that has abandoned any genuine respect for honouring diversity.

    Helpful diversity draws people together. Harmful diversity pushes people apart.

    The Premier was right in saying that the Essendon affair is much bigger than the forced resignation of the Club’s new CEO because of the beliefs he holds. And indeed, as he rightly noted, our language about other people matters.

    However, the Premier’s own words about his beliefs and how they play out for the sake of others, have tended toward the harmful, because they have sought to uphold the good of one by undermining the good of another.

    Referring to Andrew Thorburn’s church and the Bombers’ decision to sack its new CEO, the Premier used words like “intolerant”, “bigotry”, “absolutely appalling”, and “no sympathy”. Such language pitches some members of the community against others and contributes to an unhelpful spirit of division. It leaves ordinary people of faith questioning if they can publicly hold their committed beliefs, or even to be able to exercise leadership and service in the community.

    The Premier stated, “Aren’t we all God’s children?” The answer is yes, absolutely and irreducibly, every person is a child of God. But for a leader of Government to distinguish between particular “children of God” stirs up a spirit of divisiveness between people instead of one of inclusion. In this election year there is an onus of responsibility for all political leaders to appeal to their better judgment.

    We cannot claim to be inclusive if we stir up polarisation between sectors of the community, because in our Nation and, I hope, our State, every person, and every community, matters.

    If the Essendon situation, and some broader reactions to it, is a litmus test of the place and value of people of faith in Victorian society, then we are in big trouble.



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  34. I would propose that nobody under the age of 50 is allowed to be a staffer just so there are some responsible people there.

    Staffers over 50 would easily see how stupid and incompetent the people they work for, are.
    And laugh at them.


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  35. I thought your comment about the legacy meja being kept going by the political class was interesting Dover. Makes a lot of sense. Two clapped out, decaying and corrupt groups propping each other up.


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  36. The correlation between sending your children to a Catholic school and mass attendance is very low, otherwise every Sunday mass in every parish would be bursting at the seams.
    When my children were at primary school I don’t recall many other regular attendees, even though there was a Sunday mass with a ‘children’s liturgy’.


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  37. Sancho I like Wayz too. It’s a lot of fun. Was started at Technicon in Israel I believe but now owned by Google. Still can’t figure out what the cat means!!


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  38. He reminded me that on November 17, 1914—four months after the First World War began—Kaiser Wilhelm II met with his war cabinet and concluded that the war was unwinnable. “Still, they fought on for another four years,” Goemans said. “And the reason was that they knew that if they lost they would be overthrown, there would be a revolution.”

    m0nty-fa

    This differs from what you wrote earlier in two key respects.

    The meeting took place four months, not a year, after the war started, and there is no mention of hanging from lampposts.

    Your usual standard of accuracy on display? Or were you just trying to put a gloss on the story?


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  39. Winston, the French General may have been a little OTT but stand up straight, mate and feel a little proud for resisting the psyop. At least we, don’t, deep down, feel bad for caving.


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  40. Three reasons Washington is freaking out about Elon Musk right now

    If I was Musk, I would be introducing a fee on the “Report Tweet” function.

    He’d make back from the censorati all the money he lost on the fake accounts.


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  41. The Church’s website claims to be reaching out to conservative youth, but the Anglican Church isn’t mentioned.
    Thorburn is hardly youthful, so are the Anglicans trying to pull a fast one non the unsuspecting but hopelessly naive conservative youth.?
    It wouldnae be t’ first time.

    By the way, weren’t the Anglicans last heard of trying to sneakily sell 200 Tasmanian churches for a song?


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  42. Thorburn, who the media, etc. are painting as an extremist is an Anglican? Just wow, they are after everyone.

    Evangelical Anglicans, dover.

    Specifically, an international ministry founded by an Australian with campuses here and in the US.

    One step removed from the Taliban as far as most “mainstream” liberal high church Anglicans are concerned, although it was encouraging to see Archsbishop Freier defending them today.


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  43. The correlation between sending your children to a Catholic school and mass attendance is very low, otherwise every Sunday mass in every parish would be bursting at the seams.

    Yes, but I was thinking that he would find himself at Mass at least a couple of times a year as a result.


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  44. John H:

    DeepMind AI invents faster algorithms to solve tough maths puzzles

    Not just for mathematics. There are often reports of using machine learning(I don’t like the term AI) in cell biology, drug discovery, and treatment possibilities.

    I did a lot of distributed stuff for SETI@HOME when it first came out, but dropped it when Berkley was setting up a broadcast to announce to the universe we were here.
    Using the precautionary principle as my guide, I immediately said “Bugger off, sport.” and stopped doing it.
    Then I think the aliens got pissed off at them and destroyed their Arecibo Receiver … 🙂


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  45. ttps://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wa/perth-14-year-old-linked-to-violent-ashfield-robbery-of-pregnant-mother-arrested-over-another-alleged-attack-c-8464580

    The effects of colonialism and inter-generational trauma will be blamed..


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  46. He reminded me that on November 17, 1914—four months after the First World War began—Kaiser Wilhelm II met with his war cabinet and concluded that the war was unwinnable

    I’ve read most of the serious histories about Wobbly Wobbly One, and that’s the first time I’d heard that one. I’d be obliged for a reference, thank you.


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  47. Johanna:

    But, it is a mystery to me how the prosecution imagines that they have a case. No forensics, and someone who (if my experience is any guide) has no memory or knowledge whatsoever of what happened.

    It’s not about the law – it’s about the fact the Liberals have laid down like a beaten dog and been repeatedly kicked in the guts.
    It’s political, and Labor are all about the politics.
    And when the dust settles, all the public remembers is the Libs being kicked.


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  48. Credlin interviewed Tucker tonight, which is good; but in commenting on the dearth of political leaders now in the US she compared Trump to biden and remarked that surely the US could do better than these 2. Unbelievable, I classify her as a rules conservative, which is most of them and why most of them are as fucked in the head about Trump as the left. Trump understands that there are not rules when dealing with the left and an exchange of ideas within a democratic framework is fruitless. The left are winning and will continue to win as long as leading conservative women like credlin and bolt continue to play by the fucking rules.

    Watters did an analysis of the mid terms and concluded that because Dr Oz and Herschel Walker are losers the GOP will not get a majority in the senate. That’s assuming there’s any election at all. Biden’s administration has just bought $250 million worth of radiation medicine. I reckon they want a nuclear war which will enable them to stay in power. Its beyond doubt that the US did the Nord Stream bombing. What are they going to do next to provoke putie.


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  49. “Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
    October 6, 2022 at 8:16 pm
    He reminded me that on November 17, 1914—four months after the First World War began—Kaiser Wilhelm II met with his war cabinet and concluded that the war was unwinnable

    I’ve read most of the serious histories about Wobbly Wobbly One, and that’s the first time I’d heard that one. I’d be obliged for a reference, thank you.”

    Agree.


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  50. Mr Panzer at 4.34:

    Cue Kenn Worth Road Ranger in 3 …. 2 …. 1 …. telling us how he nearly ran a dickhead Victorian down who was not displaying a numberplate light.

    Just throwing his copy of the Consty – suitably smeared with Liquid Paper and highlighter marks at the offending driver – would do the trick.

    For the record, Mr Stand and Fight And If Necessary Fall was a no-show at the duelling thread.


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  51. Ed Case – it’s people who reason as you do that could result in a guilty verdict. Just recently you posted 4 kinds of allegations made about Zach Rolfe’s conduct and in a comment implied that he was guilty as charged. You may have read my response to that comment.

    It is worth noting too that when Eddie Betts was informed of the allegations of the former Hawthorn indigenous players, his response was simply “It’s a matter of who you believe, and I believe the players” (or pretty close to those words). No need for an inquiry on this view.

    This point has been made, but worth adding to. It’s just possible that the Hawthorn attacks and the Essendon FC’s behaviour that might lead to revulsion against this ‘believe the victim’ mantra. But I wouldn’t count on it. a male with a daughter 10 – 40 years old has to consider whether it’s worthwhile.


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  52. I’ve read most of the serious histories about Wobbly Wobbly One, and that’s the first time I’d heard that one. I’d be obliged for a reference, thank you.

    Presumably that story is retold in War and Punishment by the historian quoted in that article, Hein Goemans of the University of Rochester, NY.


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  53. At least we, don’t, deep down, feel bad for caving

    Why should they?

    Because their compliance sentenced us all to more than 2 years of this shite. It would have ended within a few days if everyone said no.


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  54. I thought your comment about the legacy meja being kept going by the political class was interesting Dover. Makes a lot of sense. Two clapped out, decaying and corrupt groups propping each other up.

    Think of it like an internal newsletter, Milton.


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  55. and the sad thing is that Higgins in a few years will probably find herself cast adrift, not just by Wilkinson and Maiden, but also by her current partner.

    Cassie, I think the relationships with Wilkinson and Maiden are over, Brittney said in court today that the media are just interested in Logies and Walkleys. As for the boyfriend, I don’t know.


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  56. Oh, yes, we’ll just forget about the obscene coercion and discrimination will we, bespoke?
    Caved, did you and hate yourself deep down inside?
    Never forgive, never forget. You gave up your bodily autonomy to the State. What else will the State require in the future and how will you justify resisting it?


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  57. True Roger, if they have all of school masses with parents, which I recall being something my son’s school did, he had the gall to present himself at Bert’s funeral so who knows?


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  58. Absolutely in-context highlights from Brih-nee today:

    I got those events mixed up
    the panic attack had happened
    could not recall
    There were so many traumatising events
    It might have been after the first or second meeting
    I can absolutely see that I got that afternoon wrong.

    I know this happened both with Pell and the other Vicco case of the young tradie who knocked off an uptown girl, and who was then charged (and acquitted) because said uptown girl’s mates couldn’t believe she’d go home with working class trash – but FMD, there are obvious holes here able to accommodate a Kenworth.

    These case are supposed to be brought to trial using the standard of whether a properly instructed jury could return a finding of guilt, not whether Treasury can pay for it.

    Captain Obvious moment. It should never, ever have gotten this far.


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  59. It seems that Simon Birmingham was unhappy with what Tina McQueen, a Lib vice president, said at CPAC over the weekend. On a panel about rebuilding the party, McQueen said that those “moderates” who were turfed out by their electorates in May – was something she said had been working for for years. To that, Birmingham thinks that she should consider her position as a VP of the Libs.

    How amazing is that! Out of South Australia – which historically has been one of the most “top heavy” in moderates – and the place where one of his confreres – Christopher Pyne – when in parliament, identified for GetUp which of that state’s Libs were the conservatives to go after.


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  60. Two of the siblings of one of the local Noongar clans were having a full and frank exchange of views, on the street, outside the local bank, about who was entitled to, and who wasn’t entitled, to withdraw money from “Poppy’s” bank account. The grasp of the language the ladies displayed would have made a naval stoker blush…


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  61. I don’t know if Andrews attends Mass, he probably does as his children, as he never fails to point out, attend Catholic schools, but if he were to do so and was refused communion I can imagine how he’d carry on.

    Roger, I think the standards have slipped quite a bit regarding Catholic schools. I know some parents whose children attend yet they don’t bother to go to church.

    Even when my kids were school age and attended Catholic schools it was required that we contribute to a school building fund just in case we don’t attend church every Sunday to give money there. It was still money well spent.

    That Daniel Andrews’ kids attend Catholic schools is an admission that they are superior to his government schools.


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  62. Because their compliance sentenced us all to more than 2 years of this shite. It would have ended within a few days if everyone said no.

    That is pure fantasy and would relys on everybody being fed the same information.


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  63. To that, Birmingham thinks that she should consider her position as a VP of the Libs.

    Quite tactful.
    The Labor Party woulda slutShamed someone who publicly admitted to that for a coupla weeks, then expelled her.


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  64. Because their compliance sentenced us all to more than 2 years of this shite. It would have ended within a few days if everyone said no.

    Precisely, duk. Dumb fucks didn’t do any research at all and the gullible fools believed what the government and their lackeys were spouting. Why FFS? Default should be – Governments always lie, what are they selling?
    I know families that have been seriously stressed by this. Grandparents barred from seeing grandchildren because the grandparents refused to take the clotshot, husbands and wives distanced because they each had differing views, parents now estranged from an adult daughter because they didn’t take the clotshot and she did.
    I won’t be shedding any tears when the clotshotted start dying. This universe is pitiless and stupidity is a capital crime.


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  65. Indolent says:
    October 6, 2022 at 7:43 pm
    Will Australia?

    DI LEO: WILL AMERICA HEED THE ENERGY WARNING FROM ABROAD?

    We will see how the European winter pans out and what the people and their governments there do to each other. I’m just hoping that then our politicians learn the right lessons.


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  66. I’m just hoping that then our politicians learn the right lessons
    LOL! Do you think they are capable of learning anything? They will double down.


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  67. the other Vicco case of the young tradie who knocked off an uptown girl, and who was then charged (and acquitted) because said uptown girl’s mates couldn’t believe she’d go home with working class trash – but FMD, there are obvious holes here able to accommodate a Kenworth.

    Didn’t he incur a $400,000 legal bill?


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  68. Eyrie says:
    October 6, 2022 at 7:54 pm
    I would propose that nobody under the age of 50 is allowed to be a staffer just so there are some responsible people there.

    Staffers over 50 would easily see how stupid and incompetent the people they work for, are.
    And laugh at them.

    Yes, there is that. I think the rot started with KRudd who only engaged twenty somethings. He must have taken Obama’s advice who insisted that he be the smarted man in any room.


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  69. Oh, yes, we’ll just forget about the obscene coercion and discrimination will we, bespoke?

    No

    Caved, did you and hate yourself deep down inside?

    No

    Never forgive, never forget.

    Absolutely

    You gave up your bodily autonomy to the State.

    Again no I did not.

    What else will the State require in the future and how will you justify resisting it?

    The state is keeping something very precious to my wife and I and we are fighting for her, so chill.


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  70. The ex-Labor staffer by Brittany’s side.
    Thursday, 06 October 2022

    Something you won’t find in the media reports of the Brittany Higgins rape trial is mention of this lady along side her.
    The lady in blue is PR and political messaging advisor Emma Webster, a former Kevin Rudd staffer and these days a big bucks Hawker Britton Labor-aligned spin artist.

    She also spent time working for Chairman Dan in Victoria.

    Michael Smith News.


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  71. The denialism about Russia’s anti-human COVID policies has to stop
    It’s extremely embarrassing.
    Edward Slavsquat, 16 hr ago

    One of the comments under this piece.

    It means this war is just a pantomime like everything else then. Putin doesn’t care any more for the Russian people than Hillary Clinton does. Sputnik still injects the spike protein (2 shots) which is a neurotoxin and carcinogenic. We are all just expendable NPCs in their global depopulation video game.

    Hard to argue with.


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  72. “It seems that Simon Birmingham was unhappy with what Tina McQueen, a Lib vice president, said at CPAC over the weekend. On a panel about rebuilding the party, McQueen said that those “moderates” who were turfed out by their electorates in May – was something she said had been working for for years. To that, Birmingham thinks that she should consider her position as a VP of the Libs.

    How amazing is that! Out of South Australia – which historically has been one of the most “top heavy” in moderates – and the place where one of his confreres – Christopher Pyne – when in parliament, identified for GetUp which of that state’s Libs were the conservatives to go after.”

    Indeed BBS. Despite the fact that I find McQueen a bit of a lightweight, I’ll take her any day over the likes of Birmingham, Archer, Fletcher and Leeser.

    Oh and unbelievable chutzpah from Birmingham, complaining about what McQueen said on Sunday afternoon at CPAC, yet this is the same hypocrite who joined in the verbal lynching of Katherine Deves during the election campaign. Birmingham merrily joined in along with other so called faux Liberals such as Kean, Sharma and Zimmerman to call for Deves to be disendorsed. It appears that Birmingham can dish it out but he can’t take it.

    Birmingham clearly doesn’t believe in free speech, quite odd from a so called “Liberal” because I’m pretty sure that free speech is one of the tenets found in Menzies “The Forgotten People” speech of 1942.

    Birmingham is a fucking hypocrite and I’m fucking sick and tired of faux Liberals.


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  73. Because their compliance sentenced us all to more than 2 years of this shite. It would have ended within a few days if everyone said no.

    Why not start with those who succumbed, but still wear the cloak of The Resistance, flinging shit at others who got the jab, but their motivations are not adjudged worthy enough.


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  74. Anyway, FWIW, the West Australian Wheatbelt is headed for quite a decent year, notwithstanding the increased prices of fertilizer and chemicals.

    There is a fertilizer plant being built on the Burrup – the local indigenous are complaining it will destroy their cavepaintings and songlines…..F.F.S, the rest of Australia is moving well into the Twentyfirst century …


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  75. Crossie

    That Daniel Andrews’ kids attend Catholic schools is an admission that they are superior to his government schools.

    It would be interesting to discover what proportion of Liars and Slime politicians at both state and federal levels send their kids to non-government schools. I suspect it would be an embarrassingly high number.


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  76. “The ex-Labor staffer by Brittany’s side.
    Thursday, 06 October 2022

    Something you won’t find in the media reports of the Brittany Higgins rape trial is mention of this lady along side her.
    The lady in blue is PR and political messaging advisor Emma Webster, a former Kevin Rudd staffer and these days a big bucks Hawker Britton Labor-aligned spin artist.

    She also spent time working for Chairman Dan in Victoria.”

    So Tom was right in his earlier comment and it also relates to what I wrote above, Higgins has been used as a political pawn by the likes of her partner, Wilkinson, Maiden and others.


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  77. I won’t be shedding any tears when the clotshotted start dying. This universe is pitiless and stupidity is a capital crime.

    Which grave of the vaxxed would you dance on Eyrie?
    Mater’s?
    Matrix?
    Farmer Gez?
    Do tell.


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  78. Cassie of Sydneysays:
    October 6, 2022 at 8:53 pm

    Yes, Cassie, “Birmo” is one of the real “heavy weights” in Liberal Party values. /sarc


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  79. Crossiesays:
    October 6, 2022 at 8:34 pm

    That Daniel Andrews’ kids attend Catholic schools is an admission that they are superior to his government schools.

    Daniel Andrews was educated at the Marist Brothers’ Galen Catholic College.


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    Matersays:

    October 6, 2022 at 9:09 pm

    Which grave of the vaxxed would you dance on Eyrie?
    Mater’s?

    It’s Marter, if you don’t mind!

    Sorry.
    Auto correct.
    But the point remains.
    Fuckwits like St Ruth and now Biggles of Toyland are pretty free with their condemnation of the vaxxed.
    Or at least some vaxxed.
    It was a numbers game.
    Every vaxed was another brick in the wall, apparently.
    So why are some of the vaxxed held highly accountable for the faux martyrdom of St Ruth and Biggles, and others not so much?


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  81. So why are some of the vaxxed held highly accountable for the faux martyrdom of St Ruth and Biggles, and others not so much?

    I guess because some of us didn’t shill for the vax, or go to extreme lengths to discredit those who questioned them.

    Just a guess, mind.


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  82. FMD. Every time you go inside to have a bit of dinner you miss something. Usually, it’s the fall of a wicket on the teev. Today it’s this:

    I won’t be shedding any tears when the clotshotted start dying. This universe is pitiless and stupidity is a capital crime.

    As mentioned ad infinitum to that other cockhead from SW Quenthland, the one and only reason I got hit was to enable me to go interstate and see my sainted mother, who was poorly after the death of her husband of 52 years – and my father – on 13 August 2021.

    As also mentioned, I was trapped here when Dad – one of the great men of our times – was on his deathbed after a) 25 years of rheumatoid arthritis straight from the top shelf, b) the lunchbox full of daily anti-inflams and c) anti-side effect drugs destroyed his immune system, and eventually killed him on that day. Along with pneumonia at the end, as is the case with so many.

    As for dying, I’ll tell you this – I only hope to outlive my mother, and not to outlive my son. That’s it.

    So what you can do, Eyrie, is get off your high horse, and go fuck yourself – with or without said horse – and stop telling what to do, and what I should have done.

    Another Woomba single interest nuffy. I really don’t give a fuck whether you approve of my rationale or not. Clearly, you are (or were) a boat owner as well.

    Very happy to take it to the OK Corral, because I’m yer fuckin’ huckleberry.


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  83. Birmingham is a fucking hypocrite and I’m fucking sick and tired of faux Liberals.

    Birmingham, who looks like an anaemic poofta, is according to Rowan Dean, Dud Dutton’s right-hand dick stroker. If so, I suppose after the NSW libs get reduced to a telephone booth with matt kean doing the dialling, the feds will go even harder down the faux green route.


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  84. Caved, did you and hate yourself deep down inside?

    No. Unless I wanted to outsource the care of my parents to total strangers*, I had little choice.

    I don’t want your crocodile tears when I die.

    * who would also be despicable traitors


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  85. I really couldn’t give a shit, Pansie. IIRC you got the shot fairly late in the piece when there was plenty of evidence that it was ineffective and dangerous. The knife deep inside twisting in your guts is it?


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  86. “If you can’t beat them…
    I’d prefer it spelt right (martyr), but you get what you’re given.”

    Don’t worry, I promise never to deadname you.


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  87. I don’t want your crocodile tears when I die.

    Ain’t got no tears, just hate for the arseholes who inflicted this on us. My and Mrs Eyrie’s families all got the shot. Most out of sheer ignorance and refusal to do any research. Some because they wanted to travel, which is the dumbest reason of them all.
    IIRC you got the shot because your beloved was pressuring you and he afterwards found new information and admitted you’d both been lied to. Different story now?


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  88. P says:
    October 6, 2022 at 9:08 pm
    Crossiesays:
    October 6, 2022 at 8:34 pm

    That Daniel Andrews’ kids attend Catholic schools is an admission that they are superior to his government schools.
    Daniel Andrews was educated at the Marist Brothers’ Galen Catholic College.

    Can we call him the one and only failure?


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  89. I guess because some of us didn’t shill for the vax, or go to extreme lengths to discredit those who questioned them.

    No, no.
    Not so fast.
    The mere fact a person got vaxxed emboldened The Authorities to oppress the Martyred.
    It was purely quantitative, not qualitative.
    Their reasons for getting vaxxed and reluctance (or otherwise) didn’t factor into the decision making of The Authorities.
    So again, aren’t you (along with Matrix, Gez et al) equally accountable for the imagined “predicament” of Biggles and St Ruth as Rosie, me, JC and Knuckles?


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  90. calli says:
    October 6, 2022 at 9:27 pm
    Caved, did you and hate yourself deep down inside?
    No. Unless I wanted to outsource the care of my parents to total strangers*, I had little choice.

    I did not hate myself either. It was getting the vaxx or not seeing my dying mother in a nursing home. It was paramount that mum had me with her and also that I was sure she was comfortable.


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  91. Different story now?

    No. All part of the same story. Some of which I disclosed. Do you think I’m stupid enough to spill everything on the interwebs?

    Not interested in your shit on the liver. You’ll have to deal with it yourself.


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  92. IIRC you got the shot fairly late in the piece when there was plenty of evidence that it was ineffective and dangerous.

    That’s on me. Not you.

    Start screeching at your own family, the ones you wished you could control but couldn’t, before you yip yip yip yip at people half a continent away.

    I’ve said my piece, and you refuse to duel it out on the purpose-built thread (again, like the other ‘real Quenthland man’ from the Last Holdout), so I reckon we’re done here.

    Huckleberry.


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  93. Just to add a bit more to my previous comment. I was going to resist having the vaccine even if it cost me my job, I was close to retirement anyway. However, the government had my mother as a hostage. Principally, she was in a nursing home and then in and out of hospitals depending on her condition. Even though I have siblings mum was closest to me and depended on seeing me. I made the decision to have the vaxx just to make my mother’s last days not spent in anxiety.


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  94. Remember what LindaReynolds called her ? Seems like she was spot on and pathological one at that . Talking with doctor friends today who are amazed 11 vodkas didn’t kill her .


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  95. I made the decision to have the vaxx just to make my mother’s last days not spent in anxiety.

    Crossie, according to the Woomba model airplane ‘pilot’ you are history’s greatest monster.


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  96. No. All part of the same story. Some of which I disclosed.

    So why didn’t you admit that you got the shot to look after your parents? Seems harmless enough. Different story though from what you said here.


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  97. Many tales of schisms in families over the vax.
    I have had cause to wonder about some of them.
    Was the vax the real cause?
    Or were the fault lines already there and the vax was just a convenient vehicle to ditch a hectoring old blowhard from family functions.
    No names, of course.
    Just a generalisation.


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  98. So why didn’t you admit that you got the shot to look after your parents?

    Pick me sir!
    I know this one!
    The correct answer is, “Fuck off. None of your business, Mini-Biggles.”


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  99. Campbell makes it pretty clear. He’s being censored by YouTube to prevent any discussion of ivermectin; the clinical trial results are being suppressed; he has ivermectin on hand for his own use.

    And he quite openly and cleverly showed that he had used it…


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  100. Even though I have siblings mum was closest to me and depended on seeing me. I made the decision to have the vaxx just to make my mother’s last days not spent in anxiety.

    Phhht.
    Without so much as a second thought for St Ruth’s boat.


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  101. You don’t have to explain or justify anything.

    Exactly.
    Nobody does.
    And you know what Mini-Biggles?
    You can shake your fist at the clouds* all day long.
    Knock yourself out, champ.
    See if you can alienate even more people.
    No skin off for me.
    ….
    * They’re Cumulo-Numbnuts clouds.
    Fly your model plane around, not under.


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  102. No. All part of the same story. Some of which I disclosed.

    So why didn’t you admit that you got the shot to look after your parents? Seems harmless enough. Different story though from what you said here.

    IIRC it was because I stood beside my favourite grandson (12yrs) so ‘whatever happened to him would happen to me.’

    Also it was ‘to save my marriage’.


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  103. i wonder why the forum is empty?

    Empty?
    Thursday.
    Nearly 1700 comments on a forum which opened on Tuesday.
    Some shops would kill for that sort of traffic.
    Is it because not all comments concur with your particular view?
    Is that the definition of “empty”?
    Or is it because people have … snort, cackle … “perjuried themselves”?


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  104. Brittany Higgins made secret tapes to spread word of rape

    Remy Varga
    NSW Reporter
    @RemyVarga
    Kristin Short
    21 minutes ago October 6, 2022

    So desperate was Brittany Higgins to be believed about her alleged rape at Parliament House that she covertly recorded conversations – including one with a cabinet ­minister – and distributed them to “as many people as possible”.

    Day three of Bruce Lehrmann’s rape trial also heard that Ms Higgins gave two media interviews – including a six-hour tell-all with The Project’s Lisa Wilkinson – before approaching police with her complaint.

    Audio played to the court revealed that Ms Higgins had wanted The Project interview to drop at the start of a parliamentary sitting week in February 2021 to force the ­government to respond to her ­allegations.

    Under cross-examination for the first time, Ms Higgins’ credibility was attacked by the defence.

    The former staffer admitted she made incorrect statements on how much time had passed before she wore again the white cocktail dress she had on the night of the alleged rape.

    Ms Higgins had said she kept the dress under her bed in a plastic bag for six months but was shown a photo of her wearing it on May 15, about eight weeks after the ­alleged assault.

    “I was wrong (about how long it was there),” she said.

    “I made a mistake … I left it under my bed for a period of time, and I was wrong about that time.”

    The court has heard that at the time Ms Higgins claims she was in the toilet at work having a panic attack for three hours, she was ­actually at a valedictory lunch for former Liberal MP Steven Ciobo with her former boyfriend Ben ­Dillaway. Asked when the panic attack had happened, Ms Higgins could not recall.

    “There were so many trau­matising events,” she said.

    She also conceded that a photo that purportedly showed a bruise on her left leg, which she earlier said was caused when Mr Lehrmann pinned her left thigh down with his knee on the outside edge of a couch, was actually of her right leg.

    The court heard a snippet of audio from a January 27 meeting between Ms Higgins, Wilkinson and her boyfriend David Sharaz.

    In the audio, Mr Sharaz is heard saying the couple wanted the story to drop on February 15, 2021, because it was the start of a parliamentary sitting week.

    “It’s a sitting week when we want the story to come out,” Mr Sharaz can be heard telling Wilkinson and her producer.

    “Sitting week the story comes out … questions … it’s a mess for them. That’s why Britt’s picked that timeline.”

    In the audio, Mr Sharaz said Ms Higgins had devised a timeline that the story would drop before a sitting week so the government would have to take questions.

    He said Labor senator Katy Gallagher would probe and keep the story going in March at a ­Senate estimates hearing.

    Ms Higgins on Thursday told the court that she stood by her timing: “As a media adviser, as anyone who is a professional in their field, you’d obviously – if you are going to run a story that’s political in ­nature, you would always drop it at the start of a sitting week so I stand by that as a choice.”

    She said negotiations over timing were led by the journalists to whom she had given the interview: Samantha Maiden, from news.com.au, and Wilkinson.

    “They both had sort of ­exclusive rights and they were fighting over when it would be ­released and who did what and who got the exclusive drop so that come Walkleys (Walkley Awards) time, who could claim what,” Ms Higgins said.

    “So it became not even about me or my story. It became about them so ­realistically it was – it was about – it was their choice and their call. I didn’t really have remit or control over it at that point.”

    Mr Lehrmann has pleaded not guilty to charges of sexual intercourse without consent and recklessness towards whether Ms Higgins was consenting.

    He stared at Ms Higgins as audio of The Project meeting played in the courtroom.

    Steven Whybrow, representing Mr Lehrmann, told the court police wanted to interview Ms Higgins about the alleged sexual assault before the media published her story but she ­wanted the “media releases to play out first”.

    Ms Higgins said: “I don’t accept that.”

    Mr Whybrow said Ms Higgins wanted the story to break in the media before she gave police an interview, so that politicians would not be able to avoid answering questions by being able to say they couldn’t comment because of a police investigation.

    Ms Higgins replied that the two goals were “in lock-step”.

    “In my mind, I’d quit my job so there was no impetus for either of those things (the media or police interviews) not to happen,” she said.

    The 27-year-old confirmed she met with police at the ­Belconnen Police Station on February 6, 2021, accompanied by Mr Sharaz.

    At that meeting, she told police she had compiled a timeline of events, a witness list and “recordings from the workplace”.

    “They didn’t seem that interested (in the recordings),” she told the court. “They wanted more of the ­actual facts of the assault.”

    Ms Higgins said Mr Sharaz gave the dossier and timeline she had compiled for police to two journalists when she was passed out on valium, a decision he had later come to regret.

    “I was pretty out of it because I was taking a lot of Valium at that point in time, because I wasn’t coping, and my partner made a ­decision that he will very freely say that he regrets,” she said.

    Ms Higgins said she went to the media because she wanted to instigate cultural reform within the Liberal Party.

    “I love my party, the Liberal Party, and didn’t necessarily want to hurt them,” she said.

    “I wanted to reform this issue [and] I wanted to talk about something that had happened to me.”

    Ms Higgins said she had never expected her accused rapist to be named or that police would prosecute the case.

    Ms Higgins said she had never expected her accused rapist to be named or that police would prosecute the case


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  105. I’m just watching a recording of Credlin’s show this evening where Daniel Andrews is declaring his Catholic faith. Suddenly Catholicism is important to him just as Peta listed all the anti-Catholic things he enacted. Let me guess, there’s an election coming and he thinks he can fool all those idiot Catholics to vote for him.


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  106. Nearly 1700 comments on a forum which opened on Tuesday.

    Snap.

    On ExCat, people would oooooh and ahhhhh in wonder as a seven-day OT approached 3000 comments.

    The previous two OTs, on 27 September and 1 October and also covering a seven-day period, clocked up a total of 4210 comments. And that’s without upticks, which are hotly used (apparently) to agree with a post without creating a post saying you agreed with a post.

    All the other OTs are there, or thereabouts. The joint’s rolling.


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  107. Credlin interviewed Tucker tonight, which is good; but in commenting on the dearth of political leaders now in the US she compared Trump to biden and remarked that surely the US could do better than these 2.

    Not true. She opened that section of the interview by speaking about Biden and Harris and she said surely the US can elect better candidates than those two. Trump was not discussed until after that statement.


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  108. Thanks for the memories P. Nice mask slip.

    Would you like it all in point form? Or is it more convenient to have one dimensional answers so your brain won’t hurt?


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  109. What the fuck did La Brittany think the cops were there to do?

    Quite so.
    Johanna’s observation is correct: Airhead.
    Political staffer, but too dumb to know what the cops are for.


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  110. GreyRangasays:

    October 6, 2022 at 10:35 pm

    You’re a brave man TE. Bonnet movies are beyond the pale

    Is “Bonnet Movies” the collective term for 19th century English period dramas?


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  111. callisays:

    October 6, 2022 at 10:41 pm

    Thanks for the memories P. Nice mask slip.

    What?
    Me, sir?
    No, nothing, just a bit of muffled laughter, sir.


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  112. Saved!

    2.3 episodes into The Empress on Netflix and Mrs TE pronounces it bollocks.

    Not only from the fact she’d read the biography but also historical howlers such as modern hairstyles and a woke dance sequence.


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  113. Daniel Andrews was educated at the Marist Brothers’ Galen Catholic College.

    Predictably known as Gay Land by students of other high schools.

    Whoever taught that stupid arsehole deserves a flogging. How do you produce something with such arrogance and stupidity in one package?


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  114. 2.3 episodes into The Empress on Netflix and Mrs TE pronounces it bollocks.

    Praise the Lord!
    The preview was running when I walked into The Good Room this evening.
    I immediately filed it under “P” for “Probably No Good”.


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  115. Because their compliance sentenced us all to more than 2 years of this shite. It would have ended within a few days if everyone said no.

    This is absolutely true.


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  116. I reckon they want a nuclear war which will enable them to stay in power. Its beyond doubt that the US did the Nord Stream bombing. What are they going to do next to provoke putie.

    They do not need to do anything to provoke Putin into further atrocities. His entire focus and action now is based purely on himself and retention of his position in power as the most dangerous man on earth…

    He will do whatever he thinks will retain the status quo even though he knows that he cannot win a conventional war against NATO and the nuclear option is possibly the end of his country and most assuredly the end of him.


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  117. Sanchez

    I read earlier today your comment about someone or some people here endlessly whining about the lockdowns etc and blaming the Hunchback (as he should). Meanwhile they’re cheering Duarte’s mass killing spree in the Philippines of those associated with drugs. Who was that?


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  118. “Sliante” to all you horrible mob.

    The dividend season has finished for another year, I’m quite flush with filthy lucre, and the seriously pretty young lady behind the bar of my local informs me that they now carry my favourite Scotch…


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  119. Thinking more about Putin dropping the bomb, it would put China in an interesting spot.

    Surely they would have to join the sanctions in that scenario. Would they also join in the conventional war?

    It could end up being like the race to Berlin between the Yanks and Russians at the end of WW2. Spoils of victory would be huge.


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  120. TE at 10:46.
    Mrs P made a similar comment about Wolf Hall. The dialogue wasn’t realistic.
    But, then again, if it was scripted in authentic Ye Olde 16th century Englyshe, we would probably only get every second word.
    I didn’t mind it, even though the dialogue had a decidedly 21st century lilt to it.


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  121. It could end up being like the race to Berlin between the Yanks and Russians at the end of WW2. Spoils of victory would be huge.

    Umm, you do know that the Americans and the Russians had already decided how to divide up Germany between them, Berlin was to be in the Soviet zone of occupation, and the Americans weren’t going to have a single soldier killed in any such race? (Michel Dobbs “Six Months in Berlin.”)


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  122. Knuckle Draggersays:
    October 6, 2022 at 9:24 pm

    Let’s cut through it. You got the jab, f8ckwit. Bill Gates hasn’t.

    Sucked in.

    I gave my dad a roasting the other day on the subject …no more shots for him. He’s clicked….it took a while.

    You post copious amounts of shit on this blog, KD. Get a job with the ABC.

    Good luck with your immune system.


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  123. Meanwhile they’re cheering Duarte’s mass killing spree in the Philippines of those associated with drugs. Who was that?

    I can’t recall off the top.
    I thought I read it here but not 100% sure.
    I remember it because the hypocrisy struck me.
    Imagine sooking about Dan taking our freedoms away (a fair enough complaint) but, in the next breath, cheering on summary street executions.
    FMD.
    I will do a search and see if I can find it.
    Can’t be that many comments about the Philippines (apart from how the girls there like the Aussie $$$$).


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  124. I gave my dad a roasting the other day on the subject …no more shots for him. He’s clicked….it took a while.

    Possibly got sick of the nagging and just told you that for a bit of peace.
    You’ll probably never know for sure.


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  125. Ms Higgins said she went to the media because she wanted to instigate cultural reform within the Liberal Party.

    “I love my party, the Liberal Party, and didn’t necessarily want to hurt them,” she said.

    “I wanted to reform this issue [and] I wanted to talk about something that had happened to me.”

    Ms Higgins said she had never expected her accused rapist to be named or that police would prosecute the case.

    What a shit storm.

    Not true. She opened that section of the interview by speaking about Biden and Harris and she said surely the US can elect better candidates than those two. Trump was not discussed until after that statement.

    That’ll teach me to listen to her instead or perving at her tits.


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  126. The lady in blue is PR and political messaging advisor Emma Webster

    .. Head of communications for First Peoples Assembly Victoria, Aug20 – Aug21

    Let’s rewind to

    Cassie of Sydneysays:
    October 6, 2022 at 5:14 pm

    Ms Higgins has admitted to covertly recording a conversation with Minister Michaelia Cash in February 2021 and then distributing it “to as many people as possible”.

    The court heard that within 15 minutes of that call finishing, Ms Higgins sent that recording to Emma Webster who, at the time, worked for the first people’s assembly in Victoria and now works in PR.

    and we’re supposed to believe Higgins isn’t being used for a labor hit job?


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  127. You post copious amounts of shit on this blog, KD. Get a job with the ABC.

    You still working for 6PR, Mr Trickler?

    I hear they’re very good.


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  128. I gave my dad a roasting the other day on the subject

    Yet another in the cavalcade of doofi, upset that they can’t influence their own family and who overcompensate by screeching at individuals on the other side of the country.


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  129. Good luck with your immune system.

    Thanks, squealy.

    By the way – are you still advocating that QEII should have been shot because she’s one of the lizard people?


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  130. Ms Higgins has admitted to covertly recording a conversation with Minister Michaelia Cash in February 2021 and then distributing it “to as many people as possible”.

    Any of the bush lawyers care to comment?

    She’s desperate to be believed about the rope – The Oz – but she didn’t think the police would investigate, or name the ropist?


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  131. Gee, reading through this evening’s blog-Hallward appears to be mentally well balanced. He left one of the funniest/ weird comments I’ve read on this blog. He said that when I died from a vax caused illness, he’d buy some aviation fuel, fill up the plane and fly down here to piss on my grave.

    No mental health issues at all. None . Zero!


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  132. Apropos the Philippine shoot-on-sight approach to drug dealers:
    Among the Philippine nationals in my staff & their extended social group in town, this tactic was extremely popular.


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  133. Umm, you do know that the Americans and the Russians had already decided how to divide up Germany between them, Berlin was to be in the Soviet zone of occupation, and the Americans weren’t going to have a single soldier killed in any such race?

    Yeah, and that was because Stalin was going to win the race, and was able to dictate terms at Yalta.

    If there is a similar conference to figure out what to do with a defeated Russia, China will be at a major disadvantage if it wasn’t in the war.


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  134. Apropos the Philippine shoot-on-sight approach to drug dealers:
    Among the Philippine nationals in my staff & their extended social group in town, this tactic was extremely popular.

    Makes it good then. I support something along those lines for those peddling alcohol. No mercy, I says. Shot to the head from close range.


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  135. Paul Joseph Watson
    @PrisonPlanet
    ·
    11m
    Get out of big cities.
    Quote Tweet

    Adam Brooks ??
    @EssexPR
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    2h
    Omg, 4 people stabbed in Bishopsgate, London at 10am today, unconfirmed reports that it was over a bike theft and people tried to intervene.
    Crime is out of control, what will @SadiqKhan do?!

    Video from – @AndyCCochrane

    Yes.


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  136. commenting on the dearth of political leaders now in the US she compared Trump to biden and remarked that surely the US could do better than these

    How fucking dumb is Credlin? That munty level stupidity right there.


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  137. Steve tricklersays:

    October 6, 2022 at 11:16 pm

    Sancho Panzersays:
    October 6, 2022 at 11:08 pm

    You are useless, too.

    I will take that as high praise indeed, Mr Sixpee-Ah.


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  138. Makes it good then.

    Popular & Good do not have the same meaning.

    I support something along those lines for those peddling alcohol.

    Is illicit peddling of alcohol a significant social problem in your Muslim/Mormon suburb?

    No mercy, I says. Shot to the head from close range.

    This could make stopping to chat with someone in the supermarket aisle containing the Home Brew supplies into a rather lively experience.


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  139. From earlier:

    Brittany Higgins made secret tapes to spread word of rape

    Remy Varga
    NSW Reporter
    @RemyVarga
    Kristin Short
    21 minutes ago October 6, 2022

    So desperate was Brittany Higgins to be believed about her alleged rape at Parliament House that she covertly recorded conversations – including one with a cabinet ­minister – and distributed them to “as many people as possible”.

    And:

    Ms Higgins said she had never expected her accused rapist to be named or that police would prosecute the case.

    If – IF – this is true, then I will advance the opinion that this was less about a drunken root, and more about a very hefty Aldi bag full of cash and an equally hefty promotion – all since turned to shit because a hand-patter ACT prosecutor decided to ‘believe all women’.


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  140. I don’t understand someone here claiming to posses “staff”

    There are many things you don’t understand.
    Stick around on the Cat for a while & learn from people who’ve got some lived experience & have walked the walk. 😉


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  141. I understand that the night shift on 6PR is hosted by a chap called Jon Lewis.

    He must get some absolute gongbangers ringing him up.

    Really makes you think.


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  142. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb8AGuD2uOI

    This one’s for Callie – a holiday in Scotland years ago, a seriously pretty Scots lass singing “Loch Lomond” in the hotel lounge after dinner, and a group of Scots farmers discovered an Australian wheat farmer, who not only knew the words of “Loch Lomond” but knew one end of a bottle of single malt from the other…


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  143. rickw says:
    October 6, 2022 at 11:23 pm
    commenting on the dearth of political leaders now in the US she compared Trump to biden and remarked that surely the US could do better than these

    How fucking dumb is Credlin? That munty level stupidity right there.

    I watched the recording of Credlin’s show tonight and she didn’t.


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  144. Take it to the duel shed or STFU. Thanks.

    No.
    If you want to be argumentative, you’re free to depart for the abuse thread.

    Or you can engage in a civil manner.


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  145. If – IF – this is true, then I will advance the opinion that this was less about a drunken root, and more about a very hefty Aldi bag full of cash and an equally hefty promotion – all since turned to shit because a hand-patter ACT prosecutor decided to ‘believe all women’.

    Snowballed.
    That is the word.
    I think Britnah isn’t overly sharp, but by Monday morning she must have realised that she needed a pretty good story to avoid the high jump.
    Probably half convinced herself by then.
    And maybe also watched too many US cop shows where the magic phrase “I don’t want to press charges” makes it all go away.


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  146. I love my party, the Liberal Party, and didn’t necessarily want to hurt them,” she said.

    What a trooper.

    Warms my heart too.


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  147. No.
    If you want to be argumentative, you’re free to depart for the abuse thread.

    Or you can engage in a civil manner.

    That comes from lived experience and from walked the walk. Acting civilly also includes being honest and not blowharding. Anyway, stop interfering in discussions that don’t include you. Thanks.


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  148. I love my party, the Liberal Party, and didn’t necessarily want to hurt them,” she said.

    Sure, sure.
    Bit awkward that “We want to drop it on the Monday of a sitting week to do the most damage to them” comment.
    Discovery.
    I bet she didn’t know about discovery when she said that.
    She does now.


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  149. stop interfering in discussions that don’t include you. Thanks.

    No.
    This is an open discussion thread.


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  150. I love my party, the Liberal Party, and didn’t necessarily want to hurt them,” she said.

    Sure, sure.
    Bit awkward that “We want to drop it on the Monday of a sitting week to do the most damage to them” comment.

    Cross examination should be an interesting exercise..


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  151. Acting civilly also includes being honest and not blowharding.

    You would have benefited from completing high school.
    As it is you’re able to render remedial assistance to yourself by proceeding to the Oxford English Dictionary (online) & investigating the meaning of the word “civilly”
    It does not mean what you seem to think it means.

    Always happy to help. I’m available for more remedial English tips should you require any. 😉


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  152. Try and initiate some original discussions yourself. It always appears that you never initiate.

    From this even Sherlock Holmes’ dog would deduce you pay scant attention to the Cat open thread.

    Some suggest it’s parasitical.

    Name those people.


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  153. Cross examination should be an interesting exercise..

    Yer not rong!
    The opposing barrister would be laughing up his sleeve all the while she’s in the witness box.


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  154. This is going to break this country. The stealing is running at 12% a year on current running costs of about $25 billion annually.

    Double-digit annual growth in the cost of the NDIS and debt­servicing will heap further ­pressure on the Albanese government’s budget, as Treasury warns of a global downturn that will slash $US2 trillion from the world economy by 2024 in a potential hit to Australian exports.

    In a speech in Brisbane on Friday, Jim Chalmers will reveal his October budget must navigate spending growth of 12.1 per cent per year for the NDIS

    Chalmers has the biggest ears that are humanly possible.


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  155. Oh, and just to respond to an outright lie – I was not vaccinated to “save my marriage”.

    I obeyed my husband’s genuine request for me to be vaccinated. And, in obeying him, I honoured a promise I made before many people long ago.

    It must be very difficult to understand in this day and age. Making a vow and keeping it is soooo old hat.


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  156. And if Moderna was going to kill my grandson, I made sure that I would share his fate.

    Satisfied now, or will the Grand Inquisitors be back tomorrow with the irons and pincers? I hope you’re proud of yourselves.


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