Open Thread – Weekend 15 Oct 2022


Little Bridge on the Voise, Osny, Camille Pissarro, 1883

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Ed Case
Ed Case
October 15, 2022 9:44 pm

“Trending products for you” … A Gray-Nicholls cricket box.
I don’t play cricket.
Am I about to get hit in the nuts?

You’ve got nuts?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2022 9:47 pm

“Trending products for you” … A Gray-Nicholls cricket box.
I don’t play cricket.
Am I about to get hit in the nuts?
You’ve got nuts?

Four.
Mine and yours.

Winston Smith
October 15, 2022 9:49 pm

Black Ball:

I would say beware of betting on an upcoming Democrat bloodbath.

Yep – I wouldn’t touch these elections with a ten foot Pole. Or an 11 foot Ukrainian.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 15, 2022 9:53 pm

On the 16 Jurors:
Does the A.C.T. have Majority Verdicts?
Are the 4 spares aware they’re spares?

Rabz
October 15, 2022 9:54 pm

Feel the immediacy, Cats – the sound in 70 Cities … 🙂

2dogs
2dogs
October 15, 2022 9:56 pm

The US midterms will be a … bloodbath.

The Democrats will get slaughtered among Hispanics.

Maybe after this, they will realise that punching down on Catholics is not a good idea.

Rabz
October 15, 2022 9:56 pm

Are the 4 spares aware they’re spares?

Presumably advised of their spare status on the Monday morning.

Otherwise, Eddles, it’s a travesty (again).

Razey
Razey
October 15, 2022 9:59 pm

punching down on Catholics is not a good idea

Dan Andrews, the newly self appointed Pope says otherwise.

mem
mem
October 15, 2022 10:05 pm

Rabzsays:
October 15, 2022 at 9:54 pm
Feel the immediacy, Cats – the sound in 70 Cities … ?
That was even worse than listening to the guys next door cutting concrete!

2dogs
2dogs
October 15, 2022 10:08 pm

Dan Andrews, the newly self appointed Pope says otherwise.

If Victoria had Hispanic demographics that the US is getting, he might change his tune.

In the meantime, punching down on Catholics is the favourite sport of many Victorian atheists.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 15, 2022 10:14 pm

I’m wondering how difficult it would be to get a Joh’s Jury.
If a 10/2 Verdict is good enough, then they’ve gotta get 3 ringers called up.
But if the 4 spares are decided by picking numbers out of a hat, then you’ll need 7.
On the other hand, if 11/1 is good enough for a Hung Jury and the spares were selected after the 12, then only the last of the 12 needs to be a ringer.

Rabz
October 15, 2022 10:15 pm

membles – but you loved it, nonetheless. 🙂

The American

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 15, 2022 10:16 pm

Only the First pick needs to be a ringer.

Zipster
Zipster
October 15, 2022 10:20 pm
custard
custard
October 15, 2022 10:22 pm

Dot doesn’t know where we are at in the movie…

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 15, 2022 10:22 pm

Hispanics aren’t big fans of Blacks, and Trumpy allowed blacks to run wild in 2020.
So, no, Repubs aren’t winning the Hispanics.
Their best bet is getting the Whites on board, but after Trump, that’s a hard sell.
Dems 245/190 in the House; 53/46 in the Senate.

Winston Smith
October 15, 2022 10:22 pm

Makka:
https://www.abcbullion.com.au/products-pricing/gold

Watch out for Faber- he is a gold bug and they are hurting big time now. But his time will come eventually.

I don’t see how gold bugs are hurting – adjust the graph to whatever time line you want, but to my way of seeing things, it’s been a nice store of value + earnings.

Rabz
October 15, 2022 10:23 pm

I’m wondering how difficult it would be to get a Joh’s Jury

On the cutting edge as he is (not) again.

The twelve all have to agree, Squire. The other four, at this stage in the proceedings, appear to be irrelevant.

The braindead lamestream meeja has reported the jury as consisting of 12 wymminses and four donkeys (four to be winnowed out, presumably all of those with a third leg).

There is no evidence

There is no evidence

The above, again.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 15, 2022 10:25 pm

Pub meal down the street with Mme Zulu – first time we’ve been out together in over five months, her first G and T in the same time…

2dogs
2dogs
October 15, 2022 10:31 pm
Rabz
October 15, 2022 10:34 pm
Zipster
Zipster
October 15, 2022 10:53 pm

Dems 245/190 in the House; 53/46 in the Senate.

the democrat party no longer exists, it has been replaced by a woke zombie mob who will cheat by any means necessary to hold on to power.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 15, 2022 11:08 pm

Odd, watching a film – “Midway” through today’s eyes. The number of men smoking, for example….

Rabz
October 15, 2022 11:11 pm

Trooble

According to collectivists, there is just so much wrong with the song and the film clip – despite the composer and performer being your bought and paid for california dumbocrat …

No personages of colour (like not one, man)
No wymminses
Many ol’ white dinobores
Ripped off guitar solo (see Gypsy)

Yet I love it. 🙂

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
October 15, 2022 11:12 pm

Monty 7.52pm
You believe in socialism – how idiotic
You believe in global warming- something which is not happening
Abortion ins not mufder

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 15, 2022 11:24 pm

Teenage grandson persuaded me to take him to the movies to see Don’t Worry Darling. tonight.
Do not make my mistake. Stay away.

Indolent
Indolent
October 15, 2022 11:27 pm

One comment below Neil Oliver’s talk on Covid facts

Hovercraftltd
Hovercraftltd
34 minutes ago
Pfizer executive told me “However bad you think the Vax is it is worse……they only care about the billions of profit and care nothing for the victims”. An old friend who is an undertaker told me “We have never had so many young men dead of heart issues, normally our business is old people”.

Makka
Makka
October 15, 2022 11:28 pm

I don’t see how gold bugs are hurting –

In USD if you bought at 2k you’d be down near 25%.

Gold miners GDX are down almost 50%. So yeah, there is hurt out there.

Rabz
October 15, 2022 11:30 pm

A man who did not give a rodent’s about anythang but his music … 🙂

Winston Smith
October 15, 2022 11:31 pm

https://mailchi.mp/42cab0fa853f/no-growth-while-net-zero-is-in-place-191899?e=47ee5c4c98
It’s like watching a 3 year old running around a room, sticking a fork in every power point it can find, while you watch on CCTV, helpless to intervene.

Zipster
Zipster
October 15, 2022 11:38 pm
Rabz
October 15, 2022 11:43 pm

The Yeezey – a supporter of Fatty Trump and an all round “controversial” character.

His muzak, being as it, just awesome … 🙂

MatrixTransform
October 15, 2022 11:45 pm
Winston Smith
October 15, 2022 11:55 pm

Makka:

In USD if you bought at 2k you’d be down near 25%.

But it’s only hit $2k US twice in the last 2 years, so that’s a very selective data point you’ve picked there Makka.
The average over the last 10 years has been about $1450 oz US and that’s still a couple of hundred dollars above current prices.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 16, 2022 12:02 am

Indolent says:
October 15, 2022 at 11:07 pm
Neil Oliver – ‘…new covid facts are starting to seep out…’

Excellent analysis by Neil, as usual.
Given his topic (get sceptical; don’t believe everything that government tells you) it was ironic to see that YouTube had placed an ad under the video from our Dept of Health:
Get the latest information from the Department of Health about Covid-19. Click here to learn more.

Rabz
October 16, 2022 12:03 am

For poor ol’ Winnee – a goil, amplifying it … 🙂

MatrixTransform
October 16, 2022 12:10 am
MatrixTransform
October 16, 2022 12:12 am

click on the first video.

be afraid

Zipster
Zipster
October 16, 2022 12:19 am
Zipster
Zipster
October 16, 2022 12:33 am

Elon Musk added to Myrotvorets: https://t.me/Reality_Theories/9428

rickw
rickw
October 16, 2022 2:03 am
rickw
rickw
October 16, 2022 2:05 am

click on the first video.

be afraid

Any of those dumb fucks ever watched The Wave?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 16, 2022 2:32 am

Some truly batty comments today from Ed Groogs, custard and munted.
Time for a Bex and a well earned break to spend time with family, guys.

I think of them as family. That’s what makes it so hard.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 16, 2022 2:44 am

I think of them as family. That’s what makes it so hard.

What worries me is that they might think of us as family.

Tom
Tom
October 16, 2022 4:00 am
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 16, 2022 4:28 am

Thanks, Tom.

Johnny Rotten
October 16, 2022 5:29 am

A 90-year-old man was having his annual check-up and the doctor asked him how he was feeling.

“I’ve never been better!” he boasted. “I’ve got an eighteen-year-old bride who’s pregnant and having my child! What do you think about that?”

The doctor considered this for a moment, then said “Let me tell you a story. I knew a guy who was an avid hunter. He never missed a season. But one day went out in a bit of a hurry and he accidentally grabbed his umbrella instead of his gun”. The doctor continued “So he was in the woods and suddenly a grizzly bear appeared in front of him! He raised up his umbrella, pointed it at the bear and squeezed the handle. And do you know what happened?”

Dumbfounded, the old man replied “No”. The doctor finished “The bear dropped dead in front of him!” “That’s impossible!” exclaimed the old man. “Someone else must have shot that bear”.

“That’s kind of what I’m getting at” replied the doctor.

Johnny Rotten
October 16, 2022 5:31 am

Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen.

– Winston Churchill

Winston Smith
October 16, 2022 5:33 am

My vote goes to the upside down bats.
And no, I’m not linking to it so you have to look at all of them including the rodeo one.

Johnny Rotten
October 16, 2022 5:59 am

Canadians Beware

From Armstrong Economics –

“Canadians should keep some US dollars in cash. Trudeau canceled high-value notes. As of January 2021, he obtained the power to cancel Canadian currency as they do in Europe. Once that power was exercised, he would do it again. He is entirely on board with Klaus Schwab and this agenda of the World Economic Forum is intentionally pushing for war with Russia.

As I have said, Putin had ZERO intention of conquering Ukraine. This has been a propaganda war. The first thing you do is take down the power grid. I think if war is to come, Putin can wipe out Europe very easily – take down the power grid. With digital currencies and electric cars, this will only leave society extremely vulnerable as never before. So you want cash, for banks can be shut down by targeting the power grids.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/canada/canadian-beware/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Everyone should have cash on hand and enough cash for more than a month IMHO. Also, hold some silver coins and the $1 Kookaburra is a good one to hold. Very useful for buying stuff in times of crisis which is heading our way in 2023.

calli
calli
October 16, 2022 6:15 am

WIP favourites:

Contortions

I saw this very recently

As for making others scroll, the bats are great, but the hunting lure is funnier. 😀

On the back of Neil Oliver’s monologue linked up thread, the political ones just make me feel sick to the stomach. Even laughing at them doesn’t work any more despite the “hollow crown”.

Thanks Tom

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 16, 2022 6:17 am

Turns out that one of the Van Gogh vandals was the child of some landed gentry & attended a 15 thousand pound a term school.

Winston Smith
October 16, 2022 6:20 am

https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/refinery-strike-leaves-france-short-of-fuel/

The situation is becoming critical as the lack of fuel is paralysing the whole economy. Deliveries of perishable goods and merchandise are hampered, and employees can no longer get to their workplaces,

Dot
Dot
October 16, 2022 6:28 am

Was Pelosi senile or drunk?

From Tim Pool. Pelosi says she’ll punch Trump in bizarre Jan 6 video.

https://youtu.be/KchvMJTr0I4

Winston Smith
October 16, 2022 6:29 am

NATO is playing a dangerous game that poses a risk of escalating into a nuclear war with Russia. Sorry to ruin your day. NATO is kicking off its annual nuclear weapons exercise today–i.e. STEADFAST NOON. Although this exercise has not been ginned up in response to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, it comes at a delicate time and will have Russia raising its nuclear alert level. While it is true that NATO conducts this exercise every year at this time, it is foolish to pretend that the war in Ukraine is irrelevant. Why? Because NATO is exercising deploying nuclear weapons, arming planes with those weapons and simulating an attack on Russia. Do you think the Russians do not care?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/steadfast-noon-one-minute-midnight-nato-going-nuclear/

Dot
Dot
October 16, 2022 6:31 am

As I have said, Putin had ZERO intention of conquering Ukraine.

LOL

Did you forget when he said Ukraine has no right to exist? Or his military tried to seize the enemy capital and major air base?

Putin is a Schwab/WEF “graduate”/acolyte as well.

Go and find the videos of Putin talking at WEF functions with Klaus giving him an introduction first.

Zatara
Zatara
October 16, 2022 6:38 am

“Those of you who think the vaccine kills people can use me as a test. If I die, you were right.”

Bodybuilding Champion Doug Brignole

Died suddenly on Friday at age 62 of ‘unknown causes’.

The 62-year-old still maintained an excellent training routine and he was preparing to guest pose at the AAU Mr. Universe contest that will take place in Las Vegas on Oct. 22.

Dot
Dot
October 16, 2022 6:44 am

Dr Sidney Watson made it to prime time TV as a “fat shamer”.

LOL

Didn’t Infidel Tiger tell us we needed to bring back shame?!

miltonf
miltonf
October 16, 2022 6:45 am

Turns out that one of the Van Gogh vandals was the child of some landed gentry & attended a 15 thousand pound a term school.

Yes many woke-anti fossil fuels agitators have cut glass accents- it’s very much class warfare. This also explains why so many royals are on board. Even here in Oz so many of our rabid marxists attend high fee schools.

miltonf
miltonf
October 16, 2022 6:54 am

attended sorry

Gabor
Gabor
October 16, 2022 6:59 am

Was Pelosi senile or drunk?

I go for both, but that is picking low-hanging fruit.

Zatara
Zatara
October 16, 2022 7:00 am

Biden administration requires trans ‘women’ to register for draft if they were born male.

But does not require people born female to register at all, even if they have ‘transitioned’ to male.

So what exactly are you saying here Joe? Because it sounds an awful lot like your admin is taking an official position that there is a major physical difference between biological males and females and it isn’t their genitalia or lack thereof.

Beertruk
Beertruk
October 16, 2022 7:13 am

Apologies if this has already been posted:
Bablyon Bee

bespoke
bespoke
October 16, 2022 7:15 am

MatrixTransformsays:
October 16, 2022 at 12:10 am
Visage à trois #528

Cheers

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 16, 2022 7:26 am

So what exactly are you saying here Joe?
He’s saying he needs fresh bodies, enlistment targets are down 25%.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 16, 2022 7:27 am

Because it sounds an awful lot like your admin is taking an official position that there is a major physical difference between biological males and females and it isn’t their genitalia or lack thereof.
Who. Fucking. Cares?

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 16, 2022 7:39 am

Bingo! Yahtzee! The Hun:

‘Victoria will get $2.57 billion in the federal budget spending on infrastructure later this month, spearheaded by $2.2 billion for Daniel Andrews’ pet project, the Suburban Rail Loop.
The Albanese Government’s commitment to the railway, which was a promise at May’s federal election, comes despite a threat from the opposition to cancel it if it wins next month’s state election.
The budget will also include $330 million for roads including $150 million on the Camerons Lane Interchange at Beveridge and $125 million on an upgrade on the Barwon Heads Road.
Another $57 million will go towards the Ison Road overpass which will ease congestion in Wyndham West and Werribee and provide safer access to the Princes Freeway.
The Government has also taken the decision to remove a $4 billion “contingency” from the federal budget papers that is earmarked for the East West Link connecting the Eastern Freeway with CityLink, which was cancelled by the Andrews Government in 2014 at a cost of at least $1.1 billion.
Prime Minister of Australia Anthony Albanese said sound and planned infrastructure investment in Victoria creates jobs, builds opportunity and unlocks economic growth and productivity.
“It’s about making journeys quicker, but also making sure Victorians can get home to their families safely,” he said.
“Through our first Budget, my team is getting on with the job of delivering projects in consultation with Infrastructure Australia and all levels of Government to make a real difference to the lives of Australians.”
Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government Minister Catherine King said investing in the Suburban Rail Loop was “a once-in-a-generation opportunity” to reshape the way Victoria grows.
“Victoria is projected to grow to 11.2 million residents by 2056 and Greater Melbourne to reach around 9 million people – a similar size to London today,” she said.
“This visionary project is needed to keep Victoria moving in the face of this expected growth.”
The decision to fund the Suburban Rail Loop while withdrawing the previous government’s commitment to East West Link will put the Commonwealth on collision course with Victoria if the Coalition takes office next month as the opposition has promised to build the project.’

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 16, 2022 7:45 am

Premier Fuckface would do well to kibosh this rail loop and concentrate on the roads around Victoriastan which simply are not fit to travel on, particularly after being washed away by the floods.
But of course he won’t.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 16, 2022 7:48 am

And with the declining birth rate in Australia, did Mzz King allude to more immigration with the projected population for Victoriastan?

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 16, 2022 7:49 am

Some Dijk fingerers will be better equipped to handle the next Hunger Winter.

Beertruk
Beertruk
October 16, 2022 7:50 am

callisays:
October 15, 2022 at 9:35 pm
Very good historical drama.

And yes, I know Star Wars didn’t really happen in a galaxy far, far away.

;-p

miltonf
miltonf
October 16, 2022 7:53 am

Only Ballarat could produce someone like King

Indolent
Indolent
October 16, 2022 8:06 am
Cassie of Sydney
October 16, 2022 8:08 am

“Turns out that one of the Van Gogh vandals was the child of some landed gentry & attended a 15 thousand pound a term school.”

Well of course, it goes without saying. Extinction Rebellion and the other apocalyptic climate cults are no different to cults such as the Moonies, Scientology, Ananda Marga, Rajneeshees and so on. These cults have almost always attracted and recruited the offspring of the upper middle classes and the wealthy. These eco vandals, all of whom remind me of creepy characters from a John Wyndham novel, aren’t kids from London’s East End. Nope, these vandals are the entitled, privileged scum of the elites, no different to the two zombies I frightened on Oxford Street a few weeks ago when I interrupted them putting up posters on poles that called for protests against the “far-right” CPAC conference.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 16, 2022 8:08 am

Starlink will continue to provide hardware & services for free to Ukraine.
From what I can see, crickets from the Ukrainian punters who told Elon to get fucked last week.

sfw
sfw
October 16, 2022 8:12 am

Wasn’t someone here not permitted to enter an Aldi store without an app? Looks like it’s spreading, how long till they start doing it here? My youngest daughter used to work at Aldi in Airport West (Vic) and they were told that it will be converted to a self checkout store, I wonder if that’s the same thing.

Tesco in London have the same system it seems.

https://www.mylondon.news/whats-on/shopping/tesco-shopper-furious-wasnt-allowed-25250840

Indolent
Indolent
October 16, 2022 8:14 am

I would have thought the first responsibility of government was keeping the lights on. A total, total failure. Boris and his ilk should be hung.

Blackout fears prompt Britons to buy generators and torches

calli
calli
October 16, 2022 8:15 am

Wasn’t someone here not permitted to enter an Aldi store without an app?

That was me, sfw.

Greenwich, UK. Last Tuesday.

Indolent
Indolent
October 16, 2022 8:16 am
Indolent
Indolent
October 16, 2022 8:20 am
johanna
johanna
October 16, 2022 8:20 am

There are already 100% self checkout stores – the local K Mart is one. There are a handful of staff on the floor to help people who don’t know what to do, but that’s it. No customer service of any kind. You can only pay using a card – no cash accepted.

You don’t need an app, though. There’s no need for it, IMO, except for data harvesting purposes.

Indolent
Indolent
October 16, 2022 8:23 am
Diogenes
Diogenes
October 16, 2022 8:26 am

There are already 100% self checkout stores – the local K Mart is one.

Jo, these app only stores don’t even have self checkout. The app tracks what you buy as you buy it and you just walk out the door.

Zatara
Zatara
October 16, 2022 8:26 am
Boambee John
Boambee John
October 16, 2022 8:31 am

Ed Casesays:
October 15, 2022 at 9:44 pm
“Trending products for you” … A Gray-Nicholls cricket box.
I don’t play cricket.
Am I about to get hit in the nuts?
You’ve got nuts?

Watch out, it is possible that Richard Cranium has a recipe, and is looking for a supply.

“Grill lightly with olive oil in a Gray-Nicholls box, add ….

cohenite
October 16, 2022 8:32 am

no different to the two zombies I frightened on Oxford Street a few weeks ago when I interrupted them putting up posters on poles that called for protests against the “far-right” CPAC conference.

You get about. My approach in confronting the left is to make sure you’re never outnumbered.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 16, 2022 8:35 am

The first thing you do is take down the power grid. I think if war is to come, Putin can wipe out Europe very easily – take down the power grid. With digital currencies and electric cars, this will only leave society extremely vulnerable as never before

We dont need Putin to kill the west, the green are already well on the way to destroying the 4 key targetsets in war

1) the electric grid
2) fuel
3) the transport system
4) food

you might add in #5, Comms, and ponder how they are taking over mainstream and social media also

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 16, 2022 8:39 am

There are already 100% self checkout stores – the local K Mart is one. There are a handful of staff on the floor to help people who don’t know what to do, but that’s it. No customer service of any kind. You can only pay using a card – no cash accepted.

It would be fun to fill a trolley to the brim, take it to the checkout, find your self unable to make the purchase, then leave them to return all the stuff to the shelves

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 16, 2022 8:44 am

Black Ballsays:
October 16, 2022 at 7:48 am
And with the declining birth rate in Australia, did Mzz King allude to more immigration with the projected population for Victoriastan?

Of course she did. Those future Liars voters have to come from somewhere.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 16, 2022 8:44 am

China Semiconductor Industry Association statement on sanctions on US citizens working in Chinese chip factories:

“Not only will such unilateral measure harm the further global supply chain of the semiconductor industry, more importantly it will create an atmosphere of uncertainty, which will negatively affect the trust, goodwill, and spirit of cooperation that the players of the global semiconductor industry have carefully cultivated over the past decades,”

That appears to be the point, chaps.

Indolent
Indolent
October 16, 2022 8:45 am
Indolent
Indolent
October 16, 2022 8:48 am

A bit of overkill I’d say since they’re already a wholly owned subsidiary.

Public Relations Company For Big Pharma Now “Embedding” Employees At CDC

Indolent
Indolent
October 16, 2022 8:50 am
Beertruk
Beertruk
October 16, 2022 8:52 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
October 15, 2022 at 9:02 pm
Just watched the last hour of Midway

It’s always rather sobering to contemplate U.S. losses in the opening stages of that battle – over twenty U.S. aircraft shot down, and not a single torpedo hit.

Sadly yes
However while the ‘Sons of the Rising Sun’ were fully occupied with the low altitude torpedo bombers, the dive bombers arrived overhead, unseen and unmolested.
The rest as they say, was history.

johanna
johanna
October 16, 2022 8:52 am

Diogenes (or anyone who knows) how does the app know what you have bought? Do you have to scan the item into your phone, or what?

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 16, 2022 8:53 am

Jeepers.
That’s 547 OZbux.

Razey
Razey
October 16, 2022 8:58 am

Rajneeshees

Who could forget tough titties.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp8pIQ3Eh2A

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 16, 2022 9:02 am

California Love! Read it and weep, particularly the water situation.
https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=401334

Razey
Razey
October 16, 2022 9:04 am

Indolentsays:
October 16, 2022 at 8:33 am
Texas Vaccine Policy Symposium Declares Unvaccinated People a Danger to Public Health

Texas vaxtards are a danger to humanity.

Indolent
Indolent
October 16, 2022 9:08 am

Pfizer categorically stated in 2021 that the “vaccine” stopped transmission.

kitten corner: testing the testing claims
pfraud is a pfelony

Razey
Razey
October 16, 2022 9:11 am

Indolentsays:
October 15, 2022 at 11:07 pm
Neil Oliver – ‘…new covid facts are starting to seep out…’

Wonderful. As he said about trust. ‘Trust is like a vase. You can repair a vase, but the cracks will still be there, and you’d never put water or flowers in it ever again.’

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 16, 2022 9:11 am

As Xi Jinping readies for his coronation, their ABC’s Stan Grant provides deep insights only available to the “racially literate”:

To understand China you need to understand whiteness, yet it’s missing from the conversation

So much of the commentary around China ignores the question of race. So many of the commentators discussing China — predominantly white voices — do not have the racial literacy to begin to understand how race and racism inform China’s rise.

In some ways, Xi’s China may represent the end of whiteness. Except that the Chinese Communist Party itself mirrors whiteness.

The irony is Xi has also become what he opposes. He is a Han nationalist — his idea of Chinese power is ethnic Han superiority — persecuting non-Han, non-white people in his own country.

If whiteness is power, Xi Jinping is its champion.

The continuation of white power, in darker skin.

Is there anything whiteness can’t do?

Roger
Roger
October 16, 2022 9:15 am

Is there anything whiteness can’t do?

Make you look good on the disco dance floor.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2022 9:16 am

If whiteness is power, Xi Jinping is its champion.

The continuation of white power, in darker skin.

So it’s now “The White Peril”?
Or are there various shades of white, like Richie Benaud’s wardrobe?

Roger
Roger
October 16, 2022 9:17 am

Has Linda Burney called out Warren Mundine’s racist lies yet?

Roger
Roger
October 16, 2022 9:20 am

I see from WIP that others are picking up on the Russian elite’s obsession with “the Anglo-Saxons.”

Very clever.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 16, 2022 9:30 am

China Semiconductor Industry Association statement on sanctions on US citizens working in Chinese chip factories:

“Not only will such unilateral measure harm the further global supply chain of the semiconductor industry, more importantly it will create an atmosphere of uncertainty, which will negatively affect the trust, goodwill, and spirit of cooperation that the players of the global semiconductor industry have carefully cultivated over the past decades,”

Likely so. There is a global chip shortage. Even common stuff like voltage regulators that have been in production for 40 + years and things like MAX 483’s used in the CANBUS in automotive and agricultural machinery. These are not high end, cutting edge parts.
Farmer mate who was in Europe a couple of months ago reckons Klaas company had 1600 headers in the back paddock, waiting for electronics. Things have improved apparently. As of about 3 weeks ago it had been reduced to 1400.
Is there nothing Biden can’t fuck up?

Roger
Roger
October 16, 2022 9:38 am

NATO is playing a dangerous game that poses a risk of escalating into a nuclear war with Russia.

Otoh, the effectiveness of nuclear weapons as a deterrent to aggression depends on their maintenance and a practised ability to deploy them. This decreases the likelihood of nuclear war, particularly when you are dealing with a bully like Putin who has a track record of exploiting weakness.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 16, 2022 9:40 am

Or are there various shades of white, like Richie Benaud’s wardrobe?

The cream, the bone, the white, the off white, the ivory or the beige?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2022 9:50 am

Rogersays:

October 16, 2022 at 9:38 am

NATO is playing a dangerous game that poses a risk of escalating into a nuclear war with Russia.
………
Otoh, the effectiveness of nuclear weapons as a deterrent to aggression depends on their maintenance and a practised ability to deploy them.

Yeah, the article was pathetic really.
Undertones of a preemptive “look what you made him do”.

Rabz
October 16, 2022 9:53 am

LOL

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2022 9:53 am

SOMETHING SPECIAL IS HAPPENING IN MICHIGAN:

This is a marker.

Razey
Razey
October 16, 2022 9:54 am

Rogersays:
October 16, 2022 at 9:38 am
NATO is playing a dangerous game that poses a risk of escalating into a nuclear war with Russia.

Otoh, the effectiveness of nuclear weapons as a deterrent to aggression depends on their maintenance and a practised ability to deploy them. This decreases the likelihood of nuclear war, particularly when you are dealing with a bully like Putin who has a track record of exploiting weakness.

I’m far more concerned with our own home grown tyrants.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 16, 2022 9:54 am

The Battle of Midway saw the end of all four carriers that had hit Darwin months before.

Revenge is sweet.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2022 9:56 am

BB at 7.39:

Victoria will get $2.57 billion in the federal budget spending on infrastructure later this month, spearheaded by $2.2 billion for Daniel Andrews’ pet project

Spearheaded by $2 billion of that going to the CFMMEU.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2022 9:58 am

The first paragraph of Roger’s link at 9:41.

Cults have their comforts. Membership persuades their adherents that they are an elite, party to the secret workings of the world, unlike everyone else who exist in a benighted condition of original ignorance. Adherents are saved, non-adherents are damned. 

Mornin’ Custard!

Roger
Roger
October 16, 2022 9:59 am

The idea that Putin would use tactical nukes while he has hundreds of thousands of troops in theatre is preposterous.

Tactical nukes can be very targeted weapons. That being said, I don’t think Putin is going to use them any time soon.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2022 10:00 am

On Outsiders – clips of ABC medical journalist (‘health professional’) Normie Swan blaming boomers for covid because they didn’t get the shot quickly enough.

The Flannery of medicine.

Roger
Roger
October 16, 2022 10:00 am

LOL

Looks like your strat, Rabz.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 16, 2022 10:00 am

bespoke says: October 16, 2022 at 8:04 am

Behold, the Regime Unveils Its New Catchphrase for All Political Dissent: “Stochastic Terrorism”

That includes activists agitating for political intervention to stop natural gas extraction by splashing a famous painting with soup to shock people, right?
RIGHT??

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 16, 2022 10:02 am

It would be fun to fill a trolley to the brim, take it to the checkout, find your self unable to make the purchase, then leave them to return all the stuff to the shelves
Why?
The floor staff don’t set the policy.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 16, 2022 10:02 am

Ah, oil, not gas, but the point about standards still stands.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2022 10:02 am

Knuckle Draggersays:

October 16, 2022 at 9:53 am

SOMETHING SPECIAL IS HAPPENING IN MICHIGAN:

This is a marker.

You’re in a movie.
But I’m still getting my choc-top.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2022 10:02 am

Cults have their comforts. Membership persuades their adherents that they are an elite, party to the secret workings of the world, unlike everyone else who exist in a benighted condition of original ignorance. Adherents are saved, non-adherents are damned.

Morning St. Ruth!

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 16, 2022 10:03 am

Knuckle Draggersays:
October 16, 2022 at 9:56 am
BB at 7.39:

Victoria will get $2.57 billion in the federal budget spending on infrastructure later this month, spearheaded by $2.2 billion for Daniel Andrews’ pet project

Spearheaded by $2 billion of that going to the CFMMEU.

With 10% going back to the Big Dan?

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 16, 2022 10:04 am

Do the Russians have Enhanced Radiation Weapons (ERW’s) aka neutron bombs. Anyone know?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2022 10:05 am

On Outsiders – clips of ABC medical journalist (‘health professional’) Normie Swan blaming boomers for covid because they didn’t get the shot quickly enough.

Err, wut?
My old codger memory might be failing, but I seem to recall shots being doled out in descending age order and most boomers complaining there weren’t enough slots available.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 16, 2022 10:07 am

The Battle of Midway saw the end of all four carriers that had hit Darwin months before.
Huh?
4 Carriers were required to attack a town of 2,000 and a few old ships?
It doesn’t add up.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 16, 2022 10:09 am

On Outsiders – clips of ABC medical journalist (‘health professional’) Normie Swan blaming boomers for covid because they didn’t get the shot quickly enough.
He didn’t use the word “Boomers” though, so you’re making stuff up again.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 16, 2022 10:10 am

On Outsiders – clips of ABC medical journalist (‘health professional’) Normie Swan blaming boomers for covid because they didn’t get the shot quickly enough.

COVID retconning alert.

Roger
Roger
October 16, 2022 10:14 am

4 Carriers were required to attack a town of 2,000 and a few old ships?
It doesn’t add up.

They launched 188 planes, Ed (+ long range bombers).

They didn’t fly in from Tokyo.

PS
How’s the weather in Brisbane?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2022 10:15 am

Zatara at 6.38:

– Bodybuilding Champion Doug Brignole
Died suddenly on Friday at age 62 of ‘unknown causes’.

The 62-year-old still maintained an excellent training routine and he was preparing to guest pose at the AAU Mr. Universe contest that will take place in Las Vegas on Oct. 22.

Brignole (this is courtesy of three minutes of basic searches) started his competitive body building career at 16. In the mid-1970s. He’d been on massive steroid regimes for over 40 years.

In fact, there are YouTube clips of him as a guest speaker on second-tier bobybuilding shows, including one as a guest of ‘supplement’ fan Ric Drasin. The title of one is:

‘Bodybuilding – Natural or Not? Who Really Cares? With Doug Brignole’

No mention of whether Doug’s training regime contained the salmon mousse. These ‘gotcha’ moments’ are getting more extreme by the day.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2022 10:19 am

He didn’t use the word “Boomers” though, so you’re making stuff up again.

His comments were aimed at the 65+ cohort. He was telling them it was ‘outrageous’ that they hadn’t got the AZ jab. It was accompanied by footage of 65+ people. ‘What are you waiting for?’ he said.

People don’t often use the term ‘mother-skinning Quenthland shut-in’ when referring to you either, but it is very clear who they refer to.

Bluey
Bluey
October 16, 2022 10:19 am

Razeysays:
October 16, 2022 at 9:11 am
Indolentsays:
October 15, 2022 at 11:07 pm
Neil Oliver – ‘…new covid facts are starting to seep out…’

Wonderful. As he said about trust. ‘Trust is like a vase. You can repair a vase, but the cracks will still be there, and you’d never put water or flowers in it ever again.’

I’ve been talking about falling trust in government and other institutions across the western world for a few years now, pretty good chance the covid stupidity accelerated that.
One of the things that leapt out at me skimming the pandemic management plan 2019 was the expectation of using a light touch to help maintain trust for the future. It flat out stated using measures like lockdowns will erode public support for any steps taken in the future.
Well, congratulations….

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 16, 2022 10:21 am

He’d been on massive steroid regimes for over 40 years.
So what?
Steroid use alone never killed anybody.
Getting as Covid Vaccination, yeah, that’s not a good idea.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2022 10:23 am

So what?

That’s what Doug thought as he developed bitch tits, bald patches and sultana nuts.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
October 16, 2022 10:24 am

Mrs Albino had a run in with a floor staff at KMart during the week coincidently. Having requested ‘assisted’ service rather than self checkout she was told that wouldn’t be possible, with the staff member then cutting up extremely rough at the suggestion she might deign to assist – apparently being the Head of Directing Customers to the Next Available Self Service Register is a crucial function in our brave new world…

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 16, 2022 10:26 am

Overcast in Brissy, Jacarandas are blooming, might rain, Silky Oaks didn’t flower this year.

miltonf
miltonf
October 16, 2022 10:30 am

These old ABC fuckwits really do hang around- Swan and Williams were on the radio when I was a teenager in the 80s. Even the retired ones like Cassidy, O’Pooface and Dumpster won’t piss off.

What’s wrong with the country? Way too many poisonous, malicious parasites. Being a parasite is not a good thing but when they actually poison the host it’s time to fight back.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2022 10:31 am

Knuckle Draggersays:

October 16, 2022 at 10:15 am

Zatara at 6.38:

– Bodybuilding Champion Doug Brignole
Died suddenly on Friday at age 62 of ‘unknown causes’.

Quite so.
I wasn’t aware of Mr Bignole before this, but 62 year old body builder dropping dead?
Yeah, nah, it wouldn’t be 45 years of steroids, would it?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2022 10:32 am

That’s what Doug thought as he developed bitch tits, bald patches and sultana nuts.

Are these bad things in a male?
Oh, nothing.
Just wondering.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 16, 2022 10:32 am

Bignole may have developed an intolerance for grain and lactose

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2022 10:33 am

Ed Casesays:

October 16, 2022 at 10:26 am

Overcast in Brissy …

How are things in Newcastle?

Razey
Razey
October 16, 2022 10:35 am

Blueysays:
. It flat out stated using measures like lockdowns will erode public support for any steps taken in the future.
Well, congratulations….

I’d suggest their plans include locking everyone into a CCP style, WEF endorsed social credit system, so they now couldn’t careless about public trust.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2022 10:35 am

Black Ballsays:

October 16, 2022 at 10:32 am

Bignole may have developed an intolerance for grain and lactose

An intolerance to commonsense, more like.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 16, 2022 10:35 am

Yeah, nah, it wouldn’t be 45 years of steroids, would it?
Yeah, nah, it wouldn’t.

Razey
Razey
October 16, 2022 10:38 am

Sancho Panzersays:
October 16, 2022 at 10:35 am
Black Ballsays:

October 16, 2022 at 10:32 am

Bignole may have developed an intolerance for grain and lactose

An intolerance to commonsense, more like.

The main reason this case has risen is that old mate steroid junky stated something along the lines, ‘I’m gonna take the vax, if I die you know its dangerous’.

Roger
Roger
October 16, 2022 10:40 am

Silky Oaks didn’t flower this year.

Early days yet, as any observant long time resident of “Brissie” such as your self would know.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2022 10:43 am

The main reason this case has risen is that old mate steroid junky stated something along the lines, ‘I’m gonna take the vax, if I die you know its dangerous’.

Err, yes.
And I can provide a professional wrestler who said, “I’m gonna take the vax, if my balls don’t drop off, you know it’s safe.”
This is what you advance as evidence?
Really?

Roger
Roger
October 16, 2022 10:44 am

Ed’s an Aussy from Brissy.

LOL.

JC
JC
October 16, 2022 10:45 am

Roger says:
October 16, 2022 at 10:44 am

Ed’s an Aussy from Brissy.

LOL.

Mr. Ed’s from Queensland! That explains a lot.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 16, 2022 10:46 am

Ostrayans should not forget the massive losses by the USA, on our doorstep.
I knew a guy who was pulled out of the water (I forget the name of destroyer) and was then assigned to the Yorktown and pulled out of the water …

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 16, 2022 10:47 am

Black Ball says: October 16, 2022 at 10:32 am

Bignole may have developed an intolerance for grain and lactose

That’s sarcasm, isn’t it.

After the discussion here the other week about lactose intolerance, I went looking for the numbers. Combining the estimated lactose intolerance figures for 89 countries (representing over half the world’s people) with their current populations allowed an estimate of LI for the world. Based on that sample at least 56% of the world’s population are lactose intolerant, so it’s the popular normal condition.

Razey
Razey
October 16, 2022 10:48 am

Sancho Panzersays:
October 16, 2022 at 10:43 am
The main reason this case has risen is that old mate steroid junky stated something along the lines, ‘I’m gonna take the vax, if I die you know its dangerous’.

Err, yes.
And I can provide a professional wrestler who said, “I’m gonna take the vax, if my balls don’t drop off, you know it’s safe.”
This is what you advance as evidence?
Really?

Nope.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 16, 2022 10:50 am

Groogs seems unduly oppositional this morning. Did you have an argument with Mother Groogs?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2022 10:52 am

Ed’s an Aussy from Brissy.

Is he having brekkie?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2022 10:52 am

H B Bearsays:

October 16, 2022 at 10:50 am

Groogs seems unduly oppositional this morning. Did you have an argument with Mother Groogs?

She’s giving him the cold shoulder.
No speaks.

Johnny Rotten
October 16, 2022 10:56 am

You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.

– Winston Churchill

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 16, 2022 10:57 am

Doug was an amateur bodybuilder, so probly no Steroids.
What’s his chances of dropping dead after a CovidVax?
About 6,000 times more likely.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2022 11:00 am

Doug was an amateur bodybuilder, so probly no Steroids.

The bot’s malfunctioning again.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 16, 2022 11:01 am

If you get a chance, youtube the highlights of the Tennessee Alabama game.
Wow.
Just wow.

P
P
October 16, 2022 11:02 am
Top Ender
Top Ender
October 16, 2022 11:05 am

Ed Case says: 4 Carriers were required to attack a town of 2,000 and a few old ships?
It doesn’t add up.

Try 10,000 and 64 ships.

Zipster
Zipster
October 16, 2022 11:07 am

I wasn’t aware of Mr Bignole before this, but 62 year old body builder dropping dead?
Yeah, nah, it wouldn’t be 45 years of steroids, would it?

brignole has regularly competed in drug-free competitions, he is an advocate of steroid-free bodybuilding

so yeah. it was the injectables that done it … the government sponsored ones.

Zipster
Zipster
October 16, 2022 11:09 am

‘It brings it home’: Archbishop of Canterbury highlights climate crisis in Australia with visit to Lismore

the church is not going to save conservatism, it has capitulated to wokery on the basis of being eaten last by this evil

MatrixTransform
October 16, 2022 11:11 am

Struggling to keep your Incredulity Boner down on a Sunday morning?

Cant resist the urge to play with it and talk about it all day?

Find yourself comparing your own Incredulity Boner with those of friends online?

Already tried something calming like meditation and it doesn’t work to take your mind off your tumescent swelling?

then …

watch a Press conference after Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla refused to answer in front of European Parliament

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2022 11:12 am

he is an advocate of steroid-free bodybuilding

Not according to the multitude of YouTube clips where he talks about steroid use, and that it shouldn’t matter if you gargle them for decades.

And not according to image searches. Clearly, given his age, it is (was) a circus show rather than ‘steroid-free bodybuilding. His own quote:

Who really cares?

MatrixTransform
October 16, 2022 11:13 am

lemme know if it helps

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 16, 2022 11:16 am

Try 10,000 and 64 ships.

Thanks for sorting that one, T.E.

I was under the impression that Darwin was the main port for resupplying the American/British/Dutch/Australian forces that were trying to hold the “Malaysian Barrier” against a Japanese advance.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 16, 2022 11:18 am

Not according to the multitude of YouTube clips where he talks about steroid use, and that it shouldn’t matter if you gargle them for decades.
Did he say that?
No.

And not according to image searches. Clearly, given his age, it is (was) a circus show rather than ‘steroid-free bodybuilding.
You’re a Steroid Expert now?
He hadda get PfizerVaxxed to compete, he dropped dead the next day.

miltonf
miltonf
October 16, 2022 11:23 am

As I’ve said before, my minister quoted AlGrassby during a sermon during the 80s => I have better things to do with my Sundays than have that rubbish inflicted on me. As for Welby, I hope he came here by wind power and not jet fuel.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2022 11:26 am

The next day. 24 hours afterwards.

You sure, Ed? By the way, this is Doug:

Throughout his 40-year career, he won several bodybuilding titles including the 1982 AAU Mr. America (medium tall division) and the 1986 AAU Mr. Universe (light heavyweight division). His 1986 win was his second statement victory following the Mr. America show four years earlier.

Because competitive bodybuilding in the 80s wasn’t rife with steroid use, condoned if not encouraged by the governing bodies.

Riiiight.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2022 11:26 am

Pro tip.
When Ed Case starts running your side of the argument, it’s mirror time.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 16, 2022 11:31 am

‘It brings it home’: Archbishop of Canterbury highlights climate crisis in Australia with visit to Lismore

Oh, FFS. The moment you come down from Goonellabah into this obvious floodplain with nowhere for the water from two converging rivers to go, covered in buildings, you know it’s just a decent rain event away from mass flooding. Climate change, my arse. When pushed, all you get is “yeah, but worserer”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2022 11:33 am

To be clear:

The push by various individual and grouped-up clownshows to attribute every death to every person under 115 years old to the jab does nothing – nothing – for the righteous cause, which is that people should never, ever have been compelled to get it in the first place.

It is exactly the same cultish fanaticism that drove all the ‘health professionals’ to say that every death with covid was from covid in the early stages of this horseshit.

The people doing (a) have yet to realise that they are the same type of people that did (b). They’re just different flavours of fanatic.

Cult adherents. Nothing less. They want to believe. They have to believe.

Makka
Makka
October 16, 2022 11:34 am

Is there nothing Biden can’t fuck up?

Yes, major disruption but China is deprived of seriously critical technology and capability building resources. Which includes shaving their weaponry advancement. So there are very important payoffs to this policy.

I’m reminded of the Japanese response when they were sanctioned in ’41.
Both internally (their economy) and externally, the CCP is being seriously squeezed. And getting hold of Taiwan solves their crucial chip situation. Which now becomes a national security issue. Tensions ratchet up.

“China says it reserves right to use force over Taiwan”

JC
JC
October 16, 2022 11:34 am

There are exceptions to that rule, Sanchez.

Mr. Ed did a masterful job of highlighting the psychopathic tendencies of one commenter, that I won’t bother naming. Mr. Ed went down the list and picked out 12 of the 14 tendencies that exhibited psychopathic behavior. It was an impressive , albeit uncharacteristic display of acumen from the “Eddler”.

Sure, whack him over the head when he says something stupid, but we also need to encourage thoughtful commenting too. 🙂

JC
JC
October 16, 2022 11:39 am

And getting hold of Taiwan solves their crucial chip situation. Which now becomes a national security issue.

How long would it take to transfer the factories over to the US or say Mexico. And I mean the whole kit and caboodle – such as the workers etc?

I’m pretty sure though that if the CCP looked like succeeding in a takeover, the factories would be made blown up or made unworkable. If not by the Taiwanese – then US intel.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 16, 2022 11:39 am

Archbishop of Canterbury highlights climate crisis in Australia with visit to Lismore

Somehow I doubt Mr Welby on this trip is going to be visiting Moore College in Sydney.
Take your climate rubbish and go home. And preach God’s gospel not Gaia’s.

JC
JC
October 16, 2022 11:41 am

Call me whatever, but I think that if there’s an attempt to take over Taiwan, the Chinese are going to end up getting a huge surprise with the reaction that I suspect would be multiples more dramatic than Russia/Ukraine.

miltonf
miltonf
October 16, 2022 11:42 am

Huxley’s Arch Community Songster has become a reality.

  1. Have an escape plan for when the greenslime start with the “selection”, for the ‘deniers’ Always have a go bag…

  2. The dunomo of th3 sacre coure in Bendigo is mind blowing. The interior the grounds are magnificent. everyone should visit…

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