Open Thread – Tues 18 Oct 2022


The Fall of the Rebel Angels, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1562

2,339 responses to “Open Thread – Tues 18 Oct 2022”

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  1. Speedbox Avatar
    Speedbox

    calli says:
    October 21, 2022 at 5:43 pm

    100%. And I would imagine international flights have the edge on domestic with 25-30+kg of luggage per passenger. Bound to be small lithium batteries in some of that stuff. Travelling with children? Kids toys for a start.

  2. bons Avatar
    bons

    Soft response Carpe.
    They deserve a firm hand!
    I realise the cops have no choice but to pander to them, and are unable to leave them to the gentle intervention of the folk that they are fucking around.
    Once again the fault is the Government. Serious mandatory sentences is the only deterrent. The deterrent must be useful and productive however. Ten years removing windmills with a shovel and a shifting spanner should be about right.
    Watch this space in 20 years time when the next conservative government is in power.

  3. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    I bought a tracker a few years ago to put on the collar of a recalcitrant escapee dawg.
    Range …. 10 metres tops.

    Crikey, you got done over.
    Trackers will follow a dog hundreds of metres, even kilometres away. And follow with pinpoint accuracy.

  4. Gilas Avatar
    Gilas

    Thank you for all the comments about the digitized Title Deeds.

    After more recent comments, however..
    From what I read, there is now no mechanism/obligation to inform the Title holder of a claim on the Title. The holder, Joe Schmuck Esq. finds out there is a hitherto unknown claim/caveat or other de facto obstruction only after a much richer, well funded entity knocks on the door, out of the blue.

    With the old paper, the document held any additional limitations or financial constraints ONLY if printed/attached/stamped etc.. on the original Deed. That is, with the full knowledge of said Joe, who had to retrieve and produce the original owner/mortgagor copy, in his/her/their possession.
    The older Deeds were 2-sided, thin cardboard things, ruled on the reverse side, for just such alterations.

    The two options are NOT the same.

    It’s also interesting that no one commented on the privatisation bit. Just fresh out of recent hacks of private databases.

  5. Wally Dalí Avatar
    Wally Dalí

    Ha- just ducked into town for parts, bloke on a bit of a conspicuous corner has cut early haylage wrapped in white, blue and pink- two carloads of aactivewear women and tiny kids in Osh Kosh had parked up and were climbing and posing- on my way back, I came around the bend just as old mate was gunning the big Massey across the paddock towards them hard enough to spew black smoke out of the exhaust- poor dears scattering everywhere with a hundred metres of good regrowth to run through for escape- didn’t stop, laughed my arse off tho.
    he must have torn strips off them, if they’d confessed to being anywhere near Indonesia in the last three months they’ll never find the pieces

  6. flyingduk Avatar
    flyingduk

    car insurance went from 1.8k last year to 2.4k this year. WTF!

    Vaccidents?

  7. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    Gilas
    I have had plenty of experience in dealing with Titles and in WA they’ve been in digitised form for about 20 years now! (maybe longer)…

    And yes, it is true that any idiot can lodge a “caveat” or some other “interest” on your title which you’ll only find out once you go to transact on the Title (but also in WA you can buy automated alerts for such things). But a caveat or interest on a title is not gospel truth as the “Lands Registry” just register, they don’t fact check.

    When you go to transact on your Title (i.e. sell your place) a Settlement Agent would tidy/check all of that up.

  8. Wally Dalí Avatar
    Wally Dalí

    Gilas yep I’d thought that there had been enough data hacks recently that the security risk went without saying.
    That’s the rub, increased exploitation by insiders and bad actors, with no better access, ease of use or lower charges for us peasants.
    Privatization or engulfment by the Corporation of Australia- again, goes without saying.

  9. Wally Dalí Avatar
    Wally Dalí

    you can buy automated alerts for such things
    case in point

  10. Gilas Avatar
    Gilas

    JC says:
    October 21, 2022 at 4:29 pm

    If a state was intent on cancelling someone’s ownership of property, a piece of paper would be as useful as a digitized report.

    Er.. no.
    Digitized is eons easier, can be suitably targeted through AI algorithms. Alterations happen in the dark.
    A WEFfer’s wet dream.

    Additionally, you can make a screen shot of a digitized copy.

    Two words: Photoshop, GIMP.

  11. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    And, sorry, continued Gilas…

    The privatisation* of WA’s Land Registry was quite a big deal. I think it was the biggest govt asset sale in WA history. Why have gubberment producing Titles at a total cost of $30 and selling copies (proper term “duplicates”) at $35 when a private body can produce them at $15 and sell for $20. Everyone wins.

    *WA Land registry was not technically privatised. Yes it now ran by a private organisation but they don’t own the Titles/duplicates – the State does.

  12. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    Yes, and Wally,
    the biggest property fraud scam that ever occurred in WA was a paper-based fraud.

    Someone’s property in a very rich suburb got sold while they were overseas, came home to find a whole new family living in their place (who didn’t know they were part of the scam).

    Hasn’t happened since digitisation (not saying it can’t).

  13. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Bill slugs Gates opining that putie’s war is a good thing because the good old Earth will benefit from folks using less fossils; and dying of cold.

  14. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Lidia Thorpe is quite presentable, judging by the pic of her and Deano in this morning’s paper.
    I’m seeing the usual suspects lining up to take potshots, so i’m thinkin’ they must have a Tranny wearing a spotted bowtie and riding a unicycle lined up to replace her.

  15. flyingduk Avatar
    flyingduk

    What a fkg clownshow.

    Dang ….. it’s happened again! …
    my brain readd that as ‘fkg crossbow’.

    Wondering if I need a software update.

  16. Dot Avatar

    https://youtu.be/BLAXGNP9j44

    Kanye is a plain speaker.

    Biden, is fucking retarded.

  17. flyingduk Avatar
    flyingduk

    First there were the Nord Stream explosions, then the cable to Shetland cut and now to parts of France. Are sinister tests underway or somebody playing silly buggers? Before the covid I would have said coincidence or silly games, now I’m not so sure.

    Once is happenstance twice is coincidence, thrice….

  18. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11339159/Sydney-swim-coach-Kyle-James-Henk-Daniels-acquitted-sexual-abuse-charges.html”

    He has been acquitted of more charges this afternoon. The young man faced 21 charges so the jury is still deliberating on some.

    I made a comment about this case last week, but it has all the features of a “moral panic”, of hysteria, of embellishment, of fabrications, of parental grooming and of over zealous police eager to charge a young man. It is highly reminiscent of the moral panic day-care sexual abuse hysteria of the 1980s and early 1990s, when the lives of many innocent people were destroyed by false accusations, most of the accusations clearly ludicrous and unhinged. People in the UK, NZ, US and here in Australia were convicted on dubious evidence and sent to jail, only to be cleared later.

  19. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    The piss, thou art taking.

    Indeedeth.

  20. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Climate protesters who glue themselves to anything at all must be ridiculed as much as possible. Only when they realise that they are not admired but made fun of will they stop the nonsense.

    I had an awful dream about coming across a couple of these ‘stinkin revolution mob doing this to one of my favourite old piccies ‘the raft of the medusa

    I actually got to see this on the wall at the louvre back in the day, and my dream took me right back with all the details.
    The mongs had vandalized it and were stuck to the wall, alongside it with a cooing crowd of photographers and media filming their smug faces.
    I dreamed I walked up, got my cut down knife out and stripped them them stood there backhanding them over and over slashing their smug little faces up with my ‘pimp ring” till they were unrecognizable, stopping once the police finally attended.

    Nasty little dream, but until there are actual consequences to being a mong we will see a lot more displays of public tardation.

  21. flyingduk Avatar
    flyingduk

    Until the first plane becomes a fiery lithium powered torch.

    it won’t be the first…

    The FAA instituted regulations controlling the transport of Li-ion batteries as commercial cargo after an onboard fire caused the fatal crash of UPS Airlines Flight 6 in 2010.

  22. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Ms Thorpe has 1/16th Aboriginal background.

    Whatever.
    Lidia is obviously of Aboriginal descent.
    So is Deano, apparently.
    I abhor violence, as a rule, but I wouldn’t mind seeing Rolfey in a Phone Box with Deano.

  23. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Lidia Thorpe is quite presentable

    STFU you idiot. Thorpey looks like a crazed frill neck lizard. The bikie looks like all bikies: a pumpkin filled sack of greaseless cooking paper. This guy has no criminal convictions but I don’t know if he has been charged with anything. But the Rebels has a long and proud criminal history, from everything to murders to illegal possession of a croc. Thorpey was on a panel investigating the gangs. I wonder who approached who first: the bikie or thorpey..

  24. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    Have a great weekend Catters….

    See you on Monday if I’m still on this Earth! 😛

    -Struth: Take some vino, a bex and calm down,
    -Grigs: Take some books and learn,
    -Munt: Take a long walk…

  25. Gilas Avatar
    Gilas

    Lysander says:
    October 21, 2022 at 6:20 pm

    The privatisation* of WA’s Land Registry was quite a big deal. I think it was the biggest govt asset sale in WA history. Why have gubberment producing Titles at a total cost of $30 and selling copies (proper term “duplicates”) at $35 when a private body can produce them at $15 and sell for $20. Everyone wins.

    As I wrote upstream, a transfer used to cost some $94 per property, and take less than 30 minutes.
    Now it’s around $1,000 per property, involves lawyers, several forms, and takes two-three weeks.
    Not sure that’s “Everyone” winning.
    The mere fact this was done in secret, even to the lawyers who get to sup on the additional fees, tells me there was no, none, zero compelling political case.
    When was this proposal taken to an election?

    And no, this is not the same argument as digital CHESS share holdings.
    Vastly different market needs and dynamics.

  26. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Thorpey was on a panel investigating the gangs.

    Don’t be a dope all your life.
    Thorpey sits on a committee that thinks up stupid ways to waste money, with input from interested parties, like the cops.
    Do you seriously think the cops tell Thorpey:
    “Hey, Lids, we’re kicking down T-Bone Teddy’s front door tonite and stealing all his drugs”
    Because, yeah, that’s what they do, but they don’t tell the Senators that.

  27. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    Gilas
    sorry mate I don’t swim upstream so perhaps I missed the point.

    I have to go now but happy to continue next week!

    (But I will note that it the settlement aspect you’re looking at, has nothing to do with “privatisation”).

    Ciao for now anyhoo!!! 🙂

  28. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    So is Deano, apparently.

    Stop press, Ed-Mong is wrong….

    Hes a Kiwi you utter spastic.

  29. calli Avatar
    calli

    Ticket clipping, Gilas. Everyone gets a piece of the action.

    Same as Councils and DAs.

    – CAD plans
    – demo report
    – tree report
    – waste management report
    – engineer specs
    – environmental impact report

    All for a carport.

  30. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Peter Dutton is turning into a huge disappointment.
    What’s Thorpey’s boyfriend gotta do with him?
    One of his Senators was playing ducks and drakes with a Criminal Trial in the Supreme Court last week, why hasn’t he sacked her yet?

  31. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Climate protesters who glue themselves to anything at all must be ridiculed as much as possible. Only when they realise that they are not admired but made fun of will they stop the nonsense.

    I think I’ve got a better idea.

    Just ignore them.

    Do what the Volkswagen people did…just pretend they’re not there.

    As attention seekers, being ignored is much worse than being ridiculed.

  32. Dot Avatar

    illegal possession of a croc

    LOL

  33. Barking Toad Avatar
    Barking Toad

    As attention seekers, being ignored is much worse than being ridiculed.
    Welease Woger @6.52.

    Yes, much as though I would prefer disembowelling by a petrol driven chainsaw, the staff at the people’s car place did it perfectly. Turn off the lights and the heating, walk away. Let them shit themselves while wondering if this was such a good idea.

    Remove the audience and they’re fucked.

  34. Gilas Avatar
    Gilas

    calli says:
    October 21, 2022 at 6:48 pm

    Ticket clipping, Gilas. Everyone gets a piece of the action.

    Quite.

    It is generally taught that 1 kg of cancer cells, circa 10^23 cells, will kill the average 70ish kilogram host, but with the help of immune escape.

    So I wonder how many toxic, ultimately useless and deliberately parasitic “systems” can a society tolerate before it collapses, in a process not unlike thermodynamic death?
    It must happen at some stage, no?

  35. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    Do what the Volkswagen people did…just pretend they’re not there.
    As attention seekers, being ignored is much worse than being ridiculed.

    Added ridicule; the only attention they got was people wanting to know how long they managed to hold off before they laid down a grogan.

  36. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    As I wrote upstream, a transfer used to cost some $94 per property, and take less than 30 minutes.
    Now it’s around $1,000 per property, involves lawyers, several forms, and takes two-three weeks.

    Questions for the Premier (& political suckhole hangers-on-ers):
    1/. What do we get for the extra $906?
    2/. What extra benefit do we get for having to wait an extra Fourteen business days + Seven hours + Thirty minutes?
    3/. Lawyers must now be involved in the process, what are these lawyers bringing to the table?

  37. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    And the public nuisances who glue themselves to roads….media blackout.

  38. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Good ol’ Sancho says:

    Girls are cheap. “They love the Aussie dollar” I think was the expression.
    Aussie men who regularly travel alone to SE Asia or move there to live are usually very, very suss..

    85n minutes later, someone says:
    “With the Conservative Party hierarchy demanding a snap leadership election to replace the prime minister, [Boris] Johnson remained with his feet stuck in the sand in the Dominican Republic, more than almost 7000 kilometres away from Westminster.”
    Whaddya reckon, Sancho?
    Suss?

  39. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    And the public nuisances who glue themselves to roads….media blackout.

    + Emergency services (i.e. main roads or cops) put up cones & formwork around the “traffic hazard”.
    This would mean nobody can provide extra water during the long hot day.

    Though I’m still a fan of the “runaway panicking coach horses galloping flat out down the street” as a method of rapidly clearing the glued-down arses from the public roadway.

  40. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    + Emergency services (i.e. main roads or cops) put up cones & formwork around the “traffic hazard”.
    This would mean nobody can provide extra water during the long hot day.

    I’d opt for removing them asap followed by at least 24 hours in the watch house without electronic devices before they come up before a magistrate.

    And a media blackout.

  41. bons Avatar
    bons

    Is there a protocol for when a jury foreman declares that an agreement is unachievable?
    In a ‘he said she said’ like this, where there is no direct evidence, it must be completely unlikely that jurors will change their minds.
    It is a matter of opinions, not assessment of facts.
    How could it possibly have got to court?

  42. Shy Ted Avatar
    Shy Ted

    Cairns News did a couple of interesting articles on land titles, 2nd & 3rd on this page.
    You might not like what you read. Like Dean Martin, the people who did this have no criminal convictions.

  43. Barking Toad Avatar
    Barking Toad

    How could it possibly have got to court?

    And how can a jury not resolve this in a couple of hours?

    Perhaps an 8-4 impasse.

  44. bons Avatar
    bons

    More than likely.
    Is the foreman a boy or a girl?

  45. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Don’t be a dope all your life.
    STFU you retard; I’ll be whatever I want. At least I have a choice, unlike you. Thorpey was on a joint parliamentary law enforcement committee. The bikers run crime in Australia, along with the wallopers, and she’s playing knickers and knackers with the head of the bikers. I think you’re jealous: of thorpey.

  46. calli Avatar
    calli

    Is the foreman a boy or a girl?

    How dare you!

  47. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Nats MP says Lidia Thorpe endangered AFP officers
    Owen Leonard
    OWEN LEONARD
    Nationals minister Keith Pitt has joined the chorus of calls for the embattled Lidia Thorpe to quit parliament, suggesting she put law enforcement officers at risk during her undisclosed relationship with a former bikie boss.

    Mr Pitt believes senators would support censuring Ms Thorpe, with Labor then requiring another crossbencher to pass bills through the upper house.

    “In my view, if the reports are correct, members of the Australian Federal Police and our law enforcement officers are at a higher risk than they would normally be at and if that’s the case, well Senator Thorpe should resign – she should go,” he said on Sky News.

    “I don’t think that any Australian would think that this is right … It’s very clear she doesn’t doesn’t want to be there. She didn’t want to take the oath. She’s constantly railing against the requirements of the parliament.

    “Resign in total, go back to whatever it was you were doing before.”

    Mr Pitt also took a swipe at ‘teal’ ministers not addressing the issue despite their stance on integrity.

    He joked a movie called “silence of the teals” was in the making.

  48. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Added ridicule; the only attention they got was people wanting to know how long they managed to hold off before they laid down a grogan.

    In that case lots of water, and laxative laced chilli con carne.

  49. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
    October 21, 2022 at 1:10 pm
    The Mayan population predominates over the Mezitos, those with Spanish blood.

    wait till you get to the bestial dog pottery . .. that’s a hoot!

  50. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    In a ‘he said she said’ like this

    He hasn’t said anything.
    where there is no direct evidence,
    Huh?
    When they went thru Security, she had her clothes on.
    When Security checked on her, 30 seconds after he exited the buiding, they found her nude and asleep.
    The Jury might be interested in how that came to be.
    it must be completely unlikely that jurors will change their minds.
    Huh?
    It’s 11-1, some dork is holding the inevitable up.

  51. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    though that might be the Incans not the Mayans. Peru museum is full of it.

  52. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    He hasn’t said anything.

    Edfail.

    He gave a complete and quite detailed statement to the police.

  53. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    When Security checked on her, 30 seconds after he exited the buiding, they found her nude and asleep.

    Bullshit.

  54. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Mr Pitt also took a swipe at ‘teal’ ministers not addressing the issue despite their stance on integrity.

    He joked a movie called “silence of the teals” was in the making.

    Pitt is a clown.
    This is obviously a Dog & Pony Show, there’s some favoured Post Turtle waiting in the wings for Thorpey’s job.
    Who gives a fuck if she didn’t swear the Oath?
    Jesus Hisself said:
    Swear no Oaths

  55. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    He gave a complete and quite detailed statement to the police.

    After being uncontactable in a private Mental Hospital for nearly a year.
    Then he remained silent at Trial, despite Evidence that he’s given 3 different versions of the truth when asked why he returned to PH early on March 22, 2019.

  56. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Have you thought about a mental hospital Groogs? I’m sure we could get you a referral.

  57. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Ed’s got the hots for thorpey; what is it with lefties and ball-tearer ratbags? Thorpey’s got hands like a wharfie’s. After a session with her bikie probably didn’t get on his other hog for a week.

  58. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “After being uncontactable in a private Mental Hospital for nearly a year.”

    Nope Dick Ed, it wasn’t a year. He was there for a month or two, and quite frankly, given the fact that he was being hounded by MSM scum, that same scum who’d contacted his US based sister and were harassing his family, he needed help. I don’t blame him. Apparently he was suicidal, understandable given the MSM scrutiny and the serious allegation against him.

  59. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Thorpey is quite attractive, in a Pugsley sorta way.
    I’d been taking you trolls word for it that she is as ugly as sin.
    As a matter of fact, even though I’m enrolled in Griffith, i’ll be voting for Thorpey at the next Election.

  60. Old School Conservative Avatar
    Old School Conservative

    Why Asra Panahi died in Iran:
    the regime claimed Panahi had some sort of underlying “health condition” that caused her to suffer a heart attack after security forces administered a perfectly reasonable beating

  61. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    … it wasn’t a year. He was there for a month or two, and quite frankly, …

    Spare me the sanctimony.
    Chris Dawson had his life turned upside down and was jailed on far less evidence than this bloke had arrayed against him.
    But you never said a word to defend Chrisso, did you?

  62. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Spare me the sanctimony.
    Chris Dawson had his life turned upside down and was jailed on far less evidence than this bloke had arrayed against him.
    But you never said a word to defend Chrisso, did you?”

    What is the evidence against Lehmann? The bruise? The fact that she was found naked? My God you’re ridiculous.

  63. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Who gives a fuck if she didn’t swear the Oath?

    and this is why one should read Shakespeare

  64. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    As a matter of fact, even though I’m enrolled in Griffith, i’ll be voting for Thorpey at the next Election.

    You’re not old enough to vote.

  65. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    “When Security checked on her, 30 seconds after he exited the buiding, they found her nude and asleep.”
    Such a ludicrous lie, why bother?

  66. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Homer is railing against Thorpey on Currency Lad like she is Bob Menzies reincarnated.
    That tells you the Labor Party have a ringer to replace Thorpey and NewsCorp and the Useful Idiots are doing the dirty work for them.

  67. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    Thorpey’s got hands like a wharfie’s. After a session with her bikie probably didn’t get on his other hog for a week.

    That old line about how he has a decal on the back of his helmet that reads “if you can read this then the bitch has fallen off”. Consensus view seems to be that it will be legible soon.

  68. Old bloke Avatar
    Old bloke

    Wally Dalí says:
    October 21, 2022 at 6:12 pm

    Ha- just ducked into town for parts, bloke on a bit of a conspicuous corner has cut early haylage wrapped in white, blue and pink- two carloads of aactivewear women and tiny kids in Osh Kosh had parked up and were climbing and posing- on my way back, I came around the bend just as old mate was gunning the big Massey across the paddock towards them hard enough to spew black smoke out of the exhaust- poor dears scattering everywhere with a hundred metres of good regrowth to run through for escape- didn’t stop, laughed my arse off tho.
    he must have torn strips off them, if they’d confessed to being anywhere near Indonesia in the last three months they’ll never find the pieces

    That sounds very interesting Wally, but I must confess I didn’t understand any of it.

  69. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Mr Pitt also took a swipe at ‘teal’ ministers not addressing the issue despite their stance on integrity.
    He joked a movie called “silence of the teals” was in the making.

    Superb.

  70. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Aaaand there it is:

    Thorpey is quite attractive

    ‘Thorpey’ is clearly a dude with a five o’clock shadow and Adam’s apple.

    Ed, you big old flamer you.

  71. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    My God you’re ridiculous.

    Erm… that’s his spiel.

  72. Dot Avatar

    So I wonder how many toxic, ultimately useless and deliberately parasitic “systems” can a society tolerate before it collapses, in a process not unlike thermodynamic death?
    It must happen at some stage, no?

    Unlike CHESS, well CHESS doesn’t cost me anything and brokerage keeps on getting cheaper.

    As for parasitic systems being tolerated by a society; are we even a society anymore? Government got too big before COVID and instead of protecting what different groups did within society, it ruined all of that. At best we are a constellation of different cliques now, and within those cliques people don’t want to mix.

    Engineering certificates for brick garages? What a laughable civilisation.

  73. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Q & A must have gone close to regaining old heights last night with Turtlehead Bowen and Ross Garnaut. Alas I’ll never know. Time to put it (and us) out of its misery.

  74. local oaf Avatar
    local oaf

    Has “Thorpey” got any ink?

    “Lidia, oh! Lidia, say have you met Lidia
    Oh! Lidia, the tattooed lady “

  75. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Erm… that’s his spiel.
    Why try to fake a knowledge of Yiddish, Roger?
    Like almost everything else, you’re a dud at it.

  76. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Thorpey is pretty cool.
    Now, we all know and agree that the CIA funds all the Greens Parties worldwide.
    What’s Thorpey done to upset them?

  77. johanna Avatar
    johanna

    OldOzzie says:
    October 21, 2022 at 1:03 pm

    areffsays:
    October 21, 2022 at 12:41 pm
    From a daily media bulletin I receive:

    Laura Gartry awarded Donald McDonald Oxford Scholarship
    Digital Producer at ABC’s Four Corners, Laura Gartry, has been awarded the 2023 ABC Donald McDonald Scholarship.

    Journalism did better when newsrooms were full of pisspots, cynics, outsiders and worldly sorts with whom you would not want to play Trivial Pursuit, especially for money.

    Fond Memories of Early Morning Drinks and Music at Journalists Club building

    Thanks for the link, Old Ozzie. I remember the Journalists Club, also the Taxi Club and the Graphic Arts Club as raffish late night drinking venues back in the day. From the comments at your link, it seems that the heritage of the Journos’ was plundered, including valuable paintings and original cartoons.

    I suppose the era of Sydney’s late night boozers, like those clubs, the old Bourbon and Beefsteak, and Martin’s Bar, is gone for good. It was fun while it lasted.

  78. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    Uploaded only a few hours ago, this is a very good analysis of the current state of the UK by comedian Andrew Lawrence.

    Get ready for the Labour sh!tshow.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a-ptiVgOzo

  79. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Why try to fake a knowledge of Yiddish, Roger?
    Like almost everything else, you’re a dud at it.

    See what I mean, Cassie?

    It’s his spiel.

  80. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Pay him no mind and, like the super glue enthusiasts, he’ll eventually go away.

  81. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “See what I mean, Cassie?”

    I know.

  82. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    This is what the GOP is up against in Arizona.

    https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/20/az-election-official-stephen-richer-ran-on-election-integrity-now-hes-accused-of-law-breaking-and-politicking/

    The mid-terms are stuffed; and that is a great pity with candidates like Kari Lake running in Arizona. They’re already sending out fake ballots.

  83. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Special Ed isn’t allowed to use the super glue. Or the sharp scissors.

  84. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “The mid-terms are stuffed; and that is a great pity with candidates like Kari Lake running in Arizona. They’re already sending out fake ballots.”

    John Hinderaker of Powerline thinks otherwise. He thinks Lake will win in Arizona and the GOP are performing very well in…..wait for it…..Minnesota!

  85. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Richard Cranium

    When Security checked on her, 30 seconds after he exited the buiding, they found her nude and asleep.

    Being a bit of a contrarian might amuse you, but you should at least try to stick to the facts. Provide evidence for the “30 seconds” claim.

    It’s 11-1, some dork is holding the inevitable up.

    The 11-1 vote for acquittal?

  86. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Richard Cranium

    Who gives a fuck if she didn’t swear the Oath?

    If she didn’t, that would be fine with me, but she would not be a senator without doing so.

  87. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Being a bit of a contrarian might amuse you, but you should at least try to stick to the facts. Provide evidence for the “30 seconds” claim.

    The security guard claimed it was two hours later.

  88. Old bloke Avatar
    Old bloke

    H B Bear says:
    October 21, 2022 at 8:49 pm

    Special Ed isn’t allowed to use the super glue. Or the sharp scissors.

    No sharp pencils either, crayons only.

  89. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Richard Cranium

    That tells you the Labor Party have a ringer to replace Thorpey and NewsCorp and the Useful Idiots are doing the dirty work for them.

    Vacuous even by your standards. Thorpe is a member of the Slimes. They get to nominate her replacement, who will not be a Labor person.

  90. Tintarella di Luna Avatar
    Tintarella di Luna

    No, so it sounds like it is even easier to steal a house than before. Ensuring that a bank has a (at least minor) interest in your real property is recommended

    All True and sold off by Beryl Gladyslocklian – and this private organisation does not now even issue the certificate of title you have to do a search to verify that the property stands in your name – the government does not give a shit because if anything untoward happens and someone manages to steal your title and it does happen, too often for anyones comfort, then under the real property act you do not get the property back only compensation.

    I know of a situation where a couple had purchased a block of land on the central coast of NSW. There was no mortgage on it and they had intended to retire there. They’d owned it for a few years A friend who’d known about their future plans and had seen the property happened to be driving by and noticed a FOR SALE sign and contacted the couple and in conversation said “Oh I notice you have your block of land up for sale” Well the alarm bells rang and they investigated — they found out that the property had actually been bought and sold more than once. They didn’t get their property back I don’t know about compensation but that is a story quite old by now, and that happened while the NSW government still had control of Land Titles.

    In the US I had heard advertised an insurance product called LIFELOCK which is insurance against property fraud. I would suggest that a caveat be put on the property but even that is useless because any Jo Blow can just sign a withdrawal of Caveat and get rid of it because there is nothing to stop that happening — I know that has happened done by people who are shonks and know how to rort the system. It is very very dicey, made worse by the rapacious government that is not above selling their grandmothers for a fee.

  91. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Richard Cranium

    Now, we all know and agree that the CIA funds all the Greens Parties worldwide.

    Started by the KGB, probably still funded by its successor.

  92. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    From the Oz…

    Police charge man after allegedly sending death threats to Senator Pauline Hanson

    A Victorian man has been charged after allegedly threatening to kill Pauline Hanson via social media.

    A man has been charged by the Australian Federal Police (AFP) for allegedly sending online threats toward Pauline Hanson.

    Ibrahim Koshin is alleged to have been responsible “for making the serious online threats, including threats to kill, towards the member of the Australian Senate via a social media platform in September and October 2022,” police said in a statement.

    Officers arrested the 27-year-old man at his Brunswick West home while searching the property.

    They seized a laptop and a desktop computer as a part of executing the search warrant.

    He was charged with two counts of using a carriage service to make a threat to kill, and one count of using a carriage service to menace, harass or cause offence.

    Ms Hanson has said that she has been the subject of death threats in the past, sharing images of violent messages and posts that have been allegedly directed to her in the past.

    “Here’s the rot my office and I have to put up with,” she said on Facebook in June 2020.

    The maximum penalty for these offences includes 10 years’ imprisonment.

    He attended Melbourne Magistrates Court today and was released on bail.

    “This arrest should send a strong message that the AFP and its partners are working tirelessly to identify and prosecute anyone who breaks the law by harassing, menacing or threatening politicians, including those who work alongside them,” AFP acting commander Anita van Hilst said.

    “The AFP supports the political expression and freedom of speech, however when it leads to criminal behaviour, including threats and harassment, even online, it will not be tolerated.”

    He will reappear in court in December.”

  93. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    I think he eats crayons.

  94. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    The security guard claimed it was two hours later.

    Bullshit.

  95. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Local oaf, that was a good movie.

  96. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    No crayons for special ed, he eats them.

  97. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The security guard claimed it was two hours later.

    Bullshit.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-22/four-corners-security-guard-brittany-higgins/13259262

    CCTV, and she would have had to fill out a security log…

  98. Timothy Neilson Avatar
    Timothy Neilson

    I just flew back home from the Tax Summit (The Tax Institute’s national annual convention). The keynote presenter was the egregious Mick Trumble. He was advocating for the government to renege on the already legislated middle income earners’ tax rate cut from 32.5% to 30%.
    He was asked whether there had been any justification for legislating it in the first place. As a former leader of a supposedly free market/individual liberty supporting party, he might have suggested that it was a good thing for people who earned money to be allowed to keep it and decide how to spend it. That didn’t get a mention. In fact Trumble dismissed every suggested justification for it. Is the Overton Window still even part of the building?

  99. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    When The Brucester exited without Higgins, it sparked a frantic search.
    It didn’t take 2 hours to find her, it didn’t even take 2 minutes.
    How was it that she wound up naked, given she was too drunk to scratch herself?

  100. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    Timbo – mUttley made a comment today stating that (Lizzee Trussed’s) “tax cuts were unfunded and would have sent the government’s budget further into deficit”.

    This is the sort of irredeemable idiocy we are dealing with.

    Collectivists – any of your hard earned income that the government allows you to retain is a “subsidy” and tax cuts are an “unfunded expenditure reduction”.

    Sometimes, I sort of wish that I’d never become an economist.

    Ignorance being bliss (or strength) and all that. 😕

  101. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    Ed Casesays:
    October 21, 2022 at 9:03 pm
    The security guard claimed it was two hours later.

    Bullshit.

    special ed

    CCTV shows the man left Parliament House at 2:35am

    Ms Anderson’s team leader asked her to do a welfare check on Ms Higgins after her colleague returned from his break.

    At 4:20am, she headed to Senator Reynolds’ office.

  102. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    Ed Casesays:
    October 21, 2022 at 9:26 pm
    When The Brucester exited without Higgins, it sparked a frantic search.

    At 3:00am, Nikola Anderson went to relieve a colleague at the ministerial entrance who was due for a meal break. He told her he thought the man had been acting strangely when he left.

    “My colleague had tried to make conversation with him and he seemed to be in a hurry,” she said.

    “That was when my colleague and I decided that we needed to push it up the chain and notify our night shift team leader that there might’ve been something a bit strange going on.”

    An early morning welfare check
    Ms Anderson’s team leader asked her to do a welfare check on Ms Higgins after her colleague returned from his break.

    At 4:20am, she headed to Senator Reynolds’ office.

  103. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    tax cuts are an “unfunded expenditure reduction”

    See also this monstrous dinobore

    Famous for announcing many many future non existent surpluses …

  104. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    At 3:00am, Nikola Anderson went to relieve a colleague at the ministerial entrance who was due for a meal break. He told her he thought the man had been acting strangely when he left.
    “My colleague had tried to make conversation with him and he seemed to be in a hurry,” she said.
    “That was when my colleague and I decided that we needed to push it up the chain and notify our night shift team leader that there might’ve been something a bit strange going on.”
    An early morning welfare check
    Ms Anderson’s team leader asked her to do a welfare check on Ms Higgins after her colleague returned from his break.
    At 4:20am, she headed to Senator Reynolds’ office.

    Shut. It. Down.
    Fire. Them. All.
    Nuke. From. Orbit.
    Salt. The. Earth.

  105. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Ed Casesays:
    October 21, 2022 at 9:03 pm
    The security guard claimed it was two hours later.

    Bullshit.

    Then provide the evidence for your “30 seconds” claim.

  106. Timothy Neilson Avatar
    Timothy Neilson

    Rabzsays:
    October 21, 2022 at 9:33 pm

    Presumably m0nty can do what Art Laffer disclaimed the ability to achieve – calculating precisely the turning point in the Laffer curve without actually seeing what happens when a rate is changed.
    Mick Trumble seemed to think he could do that as well.

  107. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    Another data breach has just been announced on Sky, didn’t catch the organisation’s name. This is obviously enemy action now with both Russia and China the most likely attackers.

  108. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    Timbo – the more big stupid government takes, the more it wants.

    Big stupid government is the closest thing in human history to a perpetual motion masheen*.

    Until it isn’t. As we might just be about to discover. 😕

    *Idiocracy spelling (which is basically where we are)

  109. The Beer whisperer Avatar
    The Beer whisperer

    Thorpey is pretty cool.

    That’s some serious psychosis, which requires some serious drugs.

    There’s not enough beer in the galaxy to make her attractive, let alone cool.

  110. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    The alarmist kanks always default to the consensus. Look at this quality field of sceptic scientists:

    Professor Anthony Barrett FRS FMedSci joins GWPF Academic Advisory Council

    The other members of the GWPF Academic Advisory Council are:

    Professor Christopher Essex (Chairman)
    Professor Wade Allison
    Professor Ray Bates
    Sir Ian Byatt
    Dr John Constable
    Professor Vincent Courtillot
    Professor John Dewey FRS
    Professor Peter Dobson OBE
    Professor Samuel Furfari
    Christian Gerondeau
    Professor Laurence Gould
    Professor William Happer
    Professor Ole Humlum
    Professor Gautam Kalghatgi
    Professor Terence Kealey
    William Kininmonth
    Bryan Leyland
    Professor Richard Lindzen
    Professor Ross McKitrick
    Professor Robert Mendelsohn
    Professor Garth Paltridge
    Professor Ian Plimer
    Professor Gwythian Prins
    Professor Paul Reiter
    Professor Peter Ridd
    Dr Matt Ridley
    Sir Alan Rudge FRS
    Professor Nir Shaviv
    Professor Henrik Svensmark
    Dr David Whitehouse

  111. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Andor is turning into an awesome series.
    I don’t know how such an anti establishment, anti big government, libertarian series got the green light.
    Episode 7 of 24 just aired & the robots have arrived.
    Yes those robots.

  112. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    The “rent a riffers” rendering some pure pop … 🙂

  113. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    No crayons for special ed, he eats them.

    Big, burgundy coloured Thorpe-shaped flamer crayons.

  114. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Tinta at 8:56.

    …. they found out that the property had actually been bought and sold more than once. They didn’t get their property back I don’t know about compensation but that is a story quite old by now, and that happened while the NSW government still had control of Land Titles.

    Defrauded under a paper titles system, right?

  115. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    Sancho Panzer says: October 21, 2022 at 10:13 pm

    Tinta at 8:56.
    …. they found out that the property had actually been bought and sold more than once. They didn’t get their property back I don’t know about compensation but that is a story quite old by now, and that happened while the NSW government still had control of Land Titles.

    Defrauded under a paper titles system, right?

    Used to be I wondered how this type of theft could happen. The case mentioned by Lysander @622pm is a corker & is the one that started me wondering how the heck this could possibly happen. The title deed is the possession of either the landowner or the bank – and thus tamper-proof. (or so you’d think)

    Then something similar happened to me.
    There is a reasonable expectation that the public service is pedantic & across their game, particularly those whose entire career is spent in one dept & rise to the head of that dept.
    Hahahaha, hahahaha, hahahahah… hahahaha….. hahaha..

    The following is not intended to represent any state of Australia, especially Qld, & is not meant to represent any particular public servants, especially any in Qld.

    A Liquor Licence in the state of … Kingsland… is a paper (parchment really) document. The original is so crucial & so unique that manual visual inspection of it is a key ‘tick box’ part of any visit to the premises by a Liquor Licencing Inspector.

    (Say) I possessed two satellite locations. A satellite location is an indivisible part of the main liquor licence. They are mentioned on the (one & only) licence document & are unmistakable. (eg, shop 22 at 105 King street, Blackstumpville).

    If two licencees agree, they may transfer a satellite location from one licence to another. This transfer requires the written consent of both licencees.

    There is no mechanism for a forced transfer of a satellite. None. It is prohibited by legislation.

    Imagine how surprised I was when I telephoned the department for some innocuous reason to do with one of the satellites & was told it wasn’t licenced to me, & some months earlier had been transferred to another pub in town.

    Acutely conscious of the legislation, I enquired how this could possibly have been fucking well transferred?
    You wouldn’t sign the paperwork, so we had to do it without you

    Despite there being absolutely no mechanism whatsoever in legislation, none, the liquor licencing department had conducted an illegal transfer without the knowledge of the outgoing licencee.

    If the above story was true, the illegal transfer would have been conducted by the head of the department personally.

    The transfer was permanent, could not be undone, & I was offered some (paltry) form of compensation, that wasn’t worth bothering with.

    At that moment I understood clearly how such land thefts can occur.

  116. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Despite there being absolutely no mechanism whatsoever in legislation, none, the liquor licencing department had conducted an illegal transfer without the knowledge of the outgoing licencee.

    I am not terribly au fait with the vagaries of liquor licences Sal, so – you lost your licence and had to reapply?

    Are you saying there was no remedy for this at all? The Department can arbitrarily take it off you?

  117. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Or was it just a gigantic fuckup from Licensing?

  118. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    A couple of interesting sites

    Australian Mapping China’s Tech Giants

    This multi-year project maps the overseas expansion of key Chinese technology companies.

    Launched in April 2019 and re-launched in June 2021 this website now includes 27 companies and 3800+ entries. Each entry is populated with up to 15 categories of data, totalling 38000+ data points.

    About this project

    ASPI’s International Cyber Policy Centre has produced a world-first online database, four policy reports and detailed analysis of each of the issues that have emerged from this project in a suite of sharable resources including downloadable data, thematic snapshots, and associated articles.

    In June 2021 we re-launched this project with new data points on all 23 existing companies, as well as the addition of four new companies and two major new policy reports. For this relaunch we focused our analysis on what has changed for these companies during Covid-19 and we took a deep dive into China’s global data collection ecosystem and supply chain issues.

    This project and database – which first launched in 2019 – fills a comprehensive research gap in understanding the impact of the global expansion of Chinese technology companies. Throughout 2018, the Centre received frequent questions from media and stakeholders about the international activities of Chinese technology companies, from their operations in particular regions or how widespread the use of their products were outside of China. These were always difficult questions to answer. There is a lack of publicly available quantitative and qualitative data and Chinese companies themselves disclose little in the way of policies that impact data, security, privacy, freedom of expression and censorship. When we began this project, what information was available was spread across a wide range of sources and had not been compiled.

    A major impediment to transparency is that Chinese media is under intensifying content control pressure from the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). There are very few investigative reports emerging from within China, which severely limits the available pool of media sources. The global expansion and influence of US Internet companies, particularly Facebook, has rightly received substantial attention and scrutiny over the past few years and this should continue. However, the same scrutiny is often lacking in regard to Chinese technology and social media companies and their global activities.

    The global scale reached by China’s giant technology companies needs to be understood with an account of the unique party-state environment that shapes, limits and drives their global behaviour. This sets them apart from other large technology companies expanding around the world. This project seeks to:

    And

    Report Announcement – VideoTranscript 08.27.2021

    My small research group, Marco Polo, has a copy of the laptop. And we want to write a comprehensive report—
    that’s analogous to the Mueller Report—on real foreign collusion.

    There’s an amazing Australian think tank [ASPI] that has mapped out every single Chinese entity and their influence across the world in their Belt & Road Initiative. We’re going to be doing the same thing with Hunter. With the EXIF data that’s on these photos, we’re going to be going through and mapping out who he was meeting with and when.

    But now a new report from watchdog organization Marco Polo USA outlines, in its 630-pages, a list of 459 “legal violations.”

    and

    Hunter Biden’s Laptop Documents At Least 459 Legal Violations, Watchdog Group Says

    A year-long exploration of Hunter Biden’s laptop has yielded a 630-page report that its authors say document 459 violations of state and federal laws and regulations by President Joe Biden’s son and his business partners.

    Marco Polo, a nonprofit formed by a one-time aide to former President Trump to enable a team of cyber gumshoes to take a deep dive into the laptop that the crack-addled Biden left at a Delaware repair store, claims the report is a road map for local, state, or federal prosecutors to pursue charges. The group also sent its report to each member of Congress.

    The timing of the report’s release, coming two weeks before the midterm elections, has a certain symmetry to the laptop’s initial introduction to the public. In 2020, days before the election, the New York Post published news of the laptop’s existence, as well as bombshells from it, but social media suppressed the story after the FBI had warned companies of so-called misinformation

    The team put together by Garrett Ziegler, Marco Polo’s 26-year-old founder, has mined the laptop with digital savvy, and produced a thorough report that is anything but vague or superficial, weighing in at 1 gigabyte because of the number of screenshots from the laptop.

    “I’ve been focusing on this for 13 months,” Ziegler told The Daily Wire. “It was really a thing of necessity. I recognized how rich the material was. It requires utter focus. It is so hard to write something comprehensive about it and do anything else on the side.”

  119. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    10.12 p.m.

    30 degrees. 81% humidity.

    Approaching Peak Build-Up.

  120. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Reading is a struggle for quarter of our teenagers, NAPLAN 2021 testing reveals

    exclusive
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    Education Editor
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    1 minute ago October 21, 2022
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    One in four teenagers cannot read at the minimum standard as high schools fail to provide remedial teaching, damning new test ­results reveal.

    Data from the 2021 NAPLAN (National Assessment Program – Literacy and Numeracy) tests of 1.2 million children reveals that a quarter of year 9 students and nearly one in five year 7 students failed to meet the minimum standard for reading.

    High school students are twice as likely as primary school students to have problems reading at their year level. In primary schools, 11 per cent of year 3 students and 12.5 per cent of year 5 students failed to read properly.

    The data will be presented at the Learning Difficulties Australia conference this weekend by Five from Five project founder Jennifer Buckingham, who promotes evidence-based reading instruction for children.

    Dr Buckingham’s research shows 57,000 teenagers started high school this year semi­literate. She warned that schools were failing to get struggling readers back on track – one in three students who failed to read well in primary school also failed to meet minimum literacy standards in high school. “High school students with low literacy and numeracy need intensive ­intervention as soon as possible,’’ she said. “A significant number of students do not meet minimum standards, year after year.’’

    Dr Buckingham, who has ­advised the NSW, Victorian, South Australian and federal governments on the need to re­introduce explicit instruction and phonics, said most students who struggled to read were the “casualties’’ of poor methods.

    She said 85 per cent of students with reading difficulties did not hail from disadvantaged groups eligible for extra funding.

    “The majority of kids who are struggling with literacy are not necessarily kids with a disability, low SES (socio-economic status) or Indigenous backgrounds,’’ she said. “They are just instructional casualties; garden-variety learners who haven’t learned to read. This is a problem affecting all children.’’

    The data has sparked ­demands for teenagers’ reading and writing to be tested at the start of high school, so teachers can intervene with remedial reading strategies.

    Anne Castles, scientific director of the Macquarie University Centre for Reading, warned that 40 per cent of 15-year-olds “are not reading at a functional level’’.

    She said poor literacy could ­affect student results in other subjects, such as history, maths and science, as students could not comprehend lessons or understand questions.

    “If you can’t read in high school, your self-esteem is affected and there is a loss of motivation,’’ she said. “It’s a failure of the system to ­acknowledge that basic reading still needs to be taught and ­assessed in high school.’’

    Professor Castles has been awarded a $3.2m Australian Laureate Fellowship via the Australian Research Council to improve literacy standards in high schools. In an interview with The Weekend Australian, she said testing the ­literacy of students starting high school would be a “good idea’’.

    The Productivity Commission’s review of the national school reform agreement – which sets out funding priorities for governments – revealed that one third of children who struggle to read in year 3 fail to improve by year 5. And 28 per cent of those with reading problems in year 7 remain semiliterate in year 9.

    Less time spent talking about the “Stolen Generation?”

  121. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    are we there yet … or is there more stupid to go?

  122. JC Avatar

    Er.. no.
    Digitized is eons easier, can be suitably targeted through AI algorithms. Alterations happen in the dark.
    A WEFfer’s wet dream.

    Anything and anyone can be targeted if the intent is there. “Easier” doesn’t equal intent and purpose. In other words if there is a will there’s a way.

  123. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The Mayan population predominates over the Mezitos, those with Spanish blood.

    wait till you get to the bestial dog pottery . .. that’s a hoot!

    Haven’t come across this yet, but there’s still time!
    I did purchase in Mexico a small pottery bird that is very traditional. You blow into a horizontal slit on its base and on its chest is a small hole, so it acts as a whistle. Used in hunting, not just a child’s toy.
    I was whistling away quite happily for a while.

    The Guatemalan Mayas, btw, are known as the most heavily syncretic religious group, integrating elements of their older cosmology into Catholicism; the Church seems to go along with it or at least not overtly proscribe it. A very common belief of all in Guatemala, which fascinated me, was a belief in a slightly malevolent female white spirit (shades perhaps via Spanish influence of the old European White Goddess? but it could simply be indigenous) called the Lloola, who seeks to take the souls of newborn babies. As a result, universally in this country, mothers do not hang any newborn’s clothing and nappies out to dry in the open, but always undercover, which this spirit does not like. Our educated Catholic tour guide told us she and her family automatically followed this cultural tradition because everyone else does.

  124. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Less time spent talking about the “Stolen Generation?”

    Yes. And ‘climate change’. Keep them illiterate and they can’t find out for themselves what a crock of nonsense they have been fed in the name of education.

  125. Winston Smith Avatar

    Crossie:

    First there were the Nord Stream explosions, then the cable to Shetland cut and now to parts of France. Are sinister tests underway or somebody playing silly buggers? Before the covid I would have said coincidence or silly games, now I’m not so sure.

    Someone who can’t read the data on cables is breaking them to force their enemies onto satellite where they can read the traffic.*
    So it must be Elon Musk!
    🙂
    *If you have 2 methods of conveying secret information and one is compromised and the other isn’t, you convince the enemy their secure line is compromised so they switch to the one you can read.

  126. Winston Smith Avatar

    Crossie:

    Climate protesters who glue themselves to anything at all must be ridiculed as much as possible. Only when they realise that they are not admired but made fun of will they stop the nonsense.

    I was kind of hoping the brats who chucked the soup on “Sunflowers” would be pissed on by the bystanders.

  127. Winston Smith Avatar

    Calli:

    Why would they want you to turn it off? Does it interfere with the airplane’s navigation or the airline’s prestige?

    I doubt it would do anything apart from asking the equivalent of “Are we there yet, Mum?”
    However it does give an amorphous bureaucratic blob the opportunity to create a ‘rule’ for your ‘safety’ and then force your compliance or face the consequences.
    Every little rule is a strand of cotton that will eventually tie the people more firmly than chains.

    If it saves just one life.

    It’s to save the planet, peasant!

  128. Winston Smith Avatar

    J.C:

    Turtlehead/CMD

    Can you explain who the ‘Turtlehead/CMD” is so we can respond appropriately?
    Or are you trying to create another round of disagreements, in which case we take this to the Dueling Thread where I can provide evidence of your duplicity and viciousness?

  129. Gilas Avatar
    Gilas

    Where’s Tom?

  130. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    New OT Gilas

  131. Gilas Avatar
    Gilas

    JC says:
    October 22, 2022 at 3:50 am

    Er.. no.
    Digitized is eons easier, can be suitably targeted through AI algorithms. Alterations happen in the dark.
    A WEFfer’s wet dream.

    Anything and anyone can be targeted if the intent is there. “Easier” doesn’t equal intent and purpose. In other words if there is a will there’s a way.

    100% correct, but what if a new process makes it easier to do it?
    When one does an MBA, one learns about the principles of friction and contestability.
    In summary: removing external barriers to any action makes that action more likely.

    Simple!
    Now expand that to the securing/managing of the largest private asset class in Australia.. by a faceless, increasingly unaccountable and even hostile power.
    Imagine what is then possible.. as they say… at the stroke of a pen.

    And if anyone thinks this is mere paranoia, they haven’t been paying attention to the last 30+ years.

  132. Gilas Avatar
    Gilas

    Bugger!

    Thanks Bespoke.

  133. win Avatar
    win

    Toms on the new thread and Leak is a beauty.

  134. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Zulu

    Professor Castles has been awarded a $3.2m Australian Laureate Fellowship via the Australian Research Council to improve literacy standards in high schools. In an interview with The Weekend Australian, she said testing the ­literacy of students starting high school would be a “good idea’’.

    The Productivity Commission’s review of the national school reform agreement – which sets out funding priorities for governments – revealed that one third of children who struggle to read in year 3 fail to improve by year 5. And 28 per cent of those with reading problems in year 7 remain semiliterate in year 9.

    Less time spent talking about the “Stolen Generation?”

    Steal the fascist left’s language from them, call it what it is:

    Development of a new Stolen Generation, a disgrace to Australia.

  135. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    This is an ex-thread – it has ceased to be.

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