Open Thread – Weekend 5 Nov 2022


Erminia and the Shepherds, Eugene Delacroix, 1859


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Razey
Razey
November 7, 2022 7:22 pm

Bear Necessitiessays:
November 7, 2022 at 7:01 pm
After nearly 3 years I have finally caught the Rona. Sore throat, lack of energy and some nose blockage. I’ve had it for 3 days so hopefully it clears in the next 2 or so.

LOL. Common cold symptoms.

calli
calli
November 7, 2022 7:22 pm

They aren’t there to play tiddlywinks.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Razey, I think when the cops were called the baddy might have still been prowling around the house.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 7, 2022 7:25 pm

Awesome levels of mongnitude here in WA.
Closed down the debil debil coal fired power plant…

And advanced to using diesel.

‘Dirty’ diesel generators may be needed during Perth summer as WA energy crisis deepens

Lets cherry pick just 2 numbers from this whole sharticle to show its a political, not a generation problem.

the Australian Energy Market Operator called for bids in September from energy companies and users to provide an extra 174MW of capacity for four months from December 1

….
In calling for extra capacity, AEMO in September noted the system was dealing with a “shortfall” of reserves caused by a number of different reasons.

Among them was the early retirement of a power station in Kwinana, south of Perth, an unexpected outage of another gas-fired plant north of the city and an increase in forecasts for peak demand.

On top of this, AEMO and the state Labor government have also been hit by the fallout from a worsening crisis in WA’s coal basin, which has long formed the backbone of the electricity industry.

Two months ago, the Indian-owned Griffin Coal mine near Collie, 180km south of Perth, fell into receivership following years of operating problems and mounting losses and debt.

At the same time, Griffin’s rival Premier Coal was plagued with problems of its own including declining ore reserves and a safety incident that interrupted operations.

Western Australia’s coal reserves have taken a big hit in recent months.
Combined, the difficulties at the state’s two coal producers have forced major customers including listed miner South32, as well as state-owned power provider Synergy, to look at importing coal from interstate and abroad despite sky-high prices.

They also prompted the state government to take the extraordinary decision of mothballing from September until January 1 the 340MW Collie coal-fired power station to preserve fuel supplies.

So the utter, utter spastics have mothballed 340 MW and are calling for emergency generation of 174MW..

JC
JC
November 7, 2022 7:26 pm

It may have to get to the point where museums just show copies/fakes of masterpieces.

Climate Protesters Throw Mashed Potatoes on $110 Million Monet Painting.

Two climate protesters splattered mashed potatoes on Claude Monet’s “Grainstacks” painting Sunday at the Museum Barberini in Potsdam, Germany. The 19th-century frame sustained damage but the canvas itself was unharmed, the museum said.

https://www.wsj.com/video/watch-climate-protesters-throw-mashed-potatoes-on-110-million-monet-painting/15B39FA2-5CA3-48D6-8451-B2EB4B51CDC5.html

cohenite
November 7, 2022 7:26 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
November 7, 2022 at 7:13 pm
A Katherine man who fatally shot a home intruder earlier this year has been sentenced.

Seriously fucked. The gun is the key. In WA s 248 of the Criminal Code Act Compilation Act 1913 and Zecevic v DPP 1987 define self-defence rights. Basically, in defending yourself the onus of proof of reasonableness is on the defender and as a general rule the method of self-defence cannot exceed the method of attack. Here, the intruder, from a mental institution, did not have a gun.

By comparison in NSW under Ss 418-421 Criminal Code 1900, self-defence can include killing an assailant with the method of self-defence irrelevant as long as it doesn’t include a gun and the wallopers have to prove the self-defence which caused death was unreasonable in protection of a person or person, but not property.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The purpose of a ‘warning shot’ is to keep the defender of the household out of jail.
Also helps if the bullet entry wound is in the front of the despatched criminal, rather than the middle of the back.
Coz judges & the like, most of whom have never lived these things, tend to not have a frigging clue what it is like to be facing intruders.

johanna
johanna
November 7, 2022 7:28 pm

dover0beach says:
November 7, 2022 at 5:01 pm

Amazing how monty got many of you to argue about Nazism as if Ye or the other fella were promoting Nazism.

Indeed. It is remarkable how many ‘independent thinkers’ around here allow themselves to be led by the nose by trolls like monty and ed. They put up some absurdity, and straightaway some people cannot wait to show how smart they are by disproving obvious trolling. It makes them feel good about themselves.

It gives trolls attention that they do not warrant, but crave above everything. And you give it to them.

It’s the main reason I don’t comment here so much, having to scroll through the trolls and their feeders and enablers. They end up in a symbiotic relationship which is no doubt gratifying to them, but boring at best and off-putting at worst to the other 99.999%.

The childish and repetetive playfights from a decade ago don’t help. Dover, you assigned a Duelling Thread and then just let the usual suspects carry on as normal. Step up or back off, and admit that you will never restrict certain people because they have been around for a long time.

How many times?

Are you going to do the Dr Spock parent thing again?

Zipster
Zipster
November 7, 2022 7:29 pm

So the utter, utter spastics have mothballed 340 MW and are calling for emergency generation of 174MW..

treason.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 7, 2022 7:30 pm

Warning shots are considered in some situations to be a waste of time.

Concur with Plasmamortar.

The warning shot should indeed be a warning.

To others, as they stare at the body.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
November 7, 2022 7:30 pm

The purpose of a ‘warning shot’ is to keep the defender of the household out of jail.

Unfortunately, depending on the intruder and/or your neighbours, you can still end up with at ‘attempted murder charge.
Which, if proof of firearm discharge is available, you are finished…

Cassie of Sydney
November 7, 2022 7:33 pm

“Winston Peters is adamant Jacinda Ardern will be thrown out of Government in the next election”

I recall Mr Peters in 2017 adamantly installing Jacinta Ardern into government.

miltonf
miltonf
November 7, 2022 7:33 pm

Agree with Johanna this time- montypox should be ignored. Montypox is not a contributer of good faith.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 7, 2022 7:34 pm

I was struck by the cop’s comment after a rampage of stolen vehicles and property damage worth hundreds of thousands of dollars that ‘a crash is the worst possible result’ (or similar, I haven’t copied it.)

Aren’t the casualties of any such crashes listed as “Black deaths in Custody?”

Roger
Roger
November 7, 2022 7:34 pm

I learned in PNG that if there’s an intruder in the house you shoot to kill them. Unfortunate, but there it is.

What’s unfortunate is that in Australia a householder can no longer keep & bear arms in self-defence.

Roger
Roger
November 7, 2022 7:36 pm

I recall Mr Peters in 2017 adamantly installing Jacinta Ardern into government.

Mr Peters might want to check his bottom in the bathroom mirror.

I believe his Use By date has expired.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 7, 2022 7:38 pm

They are out in the world actively being a neo-Nazi, by agitating for and arguing for their sick, twisted beliefs. When they are doing that, they are fair game in my eyes.

That would justify my beating the shit out of you, m0nty. Your sick, twisted beliefs are also disgusting.

Thank you for giving me permission.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 7, 2022 7:40 pm

Top Endersays:
November 7, 2022 at 12:28 pm

Happens often in NQ and from the stints I have done in Darwin exactly same there. Personally I think the no chase policy is the problem, these crims are still killing & injuring people just the media doesn’t report that inconvenient little fact. Little old ladies on a Sunday, old mate on his way home from work etc. The level of emotion is quite high, last year some of the little darling wrote off a car in Duckworth st Garbutt. The next day there was a memorial on the roundabout that didn’t even last 24hrs. Regular as clockwork family totted out race instead of the fact said progeny were driving a stolen car at dangerous speeds in suburbia.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 7, 2022 7:41 pm

Montypox/ed-Mong will do what numbers used to do.

Even if his mongnitude is ignored he will deposit increasingly hysterical idiocy over the place.
The argument isnt to teach him anything, god knows thats a lost cause, its for anyone reading who might pick up little facts and info from responses to the troll droppings.

The “oh its so boring to have to refute dumb arguments” is why we have Biden & Elbow in power, sterilization for pre teens and the dickheads in government setting up a Aboriginal shadow state fully funded by taxpayers.

Cats arent fanatics, our opponents are, thats why they win.

Cassie of Sydney
November 7, 2022 7:42 pm

The childish and repetetive playfights from a decade ago don’t help.”

Couldn’t agree more. Please remember your own words next time you start an attack on Lizzie for no good reason, or do your words only apply to others?

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
November 7, 2022 7:50 pm

The warning shot should indeed be a warning.

To others, as they stare at the body.

As soon as he said it was a warning shot, he was going to have a problem.

Better to say the dude was coming to attack you.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 7, 2022 7:55 pm

Lesson. Never ever call the cops. Bury them in the backyard. Who is going to know?

A couple of ouens prowling around the place. Ring the coppers – the nearest manned station is two hundred kilometers away. Collect two friends – Mr Lee and Mr Enfield – and go and investigate.

“Get off this place, and get off it now!”

“You use that thing on me and I’ll see you in court.”

“Court? Mate, this is Snowy Rowles country…”

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Better to say the dude was coming to attack you.

The bullet hole being in the middle of the back would present quite some difficulty in explaining under cross-examination.

Zipster
Zipster
November 7, 2022 7:56 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 7, 2022 7:58 pm

Dead UN chief Dag Hammarskjold’s ace of spades riddle

By Jane Flanagan and Constance Kampfner
The Times
16 minutes ago November 7, 2022
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One of the Cold War’s murkiest mysteries has been injected with fresh intrigue after witness accounts linked white mercenaries to the plane crash that killed UN chief Dag Hammarskjold.

The suggestion that Congolese rebels and “dogs of war” were in cahoots with Western intelligence has lingered since the Swede’s death in 1961, when his chartered DC-6 Albertina fell out of the sky during an African peace mission.

Now, a progress report on the UN investigation into the incident highlights discrepancies at the crash site, a heavy mercenary presence and the failure by Britain and the US to disclose key intelligence, which have only added weight to conspiracy theories.

Hammarskjold’s unburnt body was found, with the ace of spades playing card tucked into a collar, near the wreckage and the charred remains of 14 other passengers near Ndola in what was then the British colony of Northern Rhodesia, now Zambia.

One survivor died of his injuries days later. The UN secretary-general had been due to negotiate a ceasefire in the mineral-rich breakaway republic of Katanga shortly after Congo’s independence from Belgium and at the height of the Cold War.

New information “supports the finding that foreign mercenaries, including pilots, were a significant force in and around Katanga in September 1961”, Mohamed Chande Othman, who is leading the investigation, wrote to Antonio Guterres, the present UN Secretary-General, in a recent letter.

Accounts given to Mr Othman’s team included a witness who stumbled upon the crash site and observed that the surrounding bush was on fire, but not the plane itself. In a statement, the man said he was ordered to leave by white men in combat fatigues whose commander spoke with a South African accent, according to Mr Othman’s letter, which has been seen by The Times.

The official account was that the plane was not found until 15 hours after it failed to land, Mr Othman, a former chief justice of Tanzania, said. “Numerous sources refer to unidentified persons visiting the crash site before it was officially discovered, suggesting potentially either involvement in a ground attack or an attempt to cover up or delay the discovery of the crash,” he wrote.

Hammarskjold’s mission was being closely monitored by major powers that all had an eye on Katanga’s vast mineral riches and were fearful the Soviet Union would capitalise on Congo’s independence.

Radio traffic intercepted by British and US intelligence on the night of the crash – September 17 – was cited by Mr Othman in an earlier update to Mr Guterres as key to solving the decades-old riddle. The UN investigation was ordered in 2015 after research, including the 2011 book Who Killed Hammarskjold?, turned up “persuasive evidence” that his plane had been shot down.

The biggest obstacle to getting to the truth, Mr Othman’s letter said, was the lack of information from Britain and the US.

A post-mortem examination found that the crash killed Hammarskjold and there was no sign of foul play on his body, facts confirmed by a later review.

The Foreign Office said: “The UK has fully co-operated with the Dag Hammarskjold inquiry and provided all the relevant information we hold.”

johanna
johanna
November 7, 2022 8:01 pm

It doesn’t need anything from me to pin Hyacinth x Gloria.

The WIP image of the screaming baby going on about how he/she was (a) resigning and then (b) hanging around desperately to find out of anyone cared was very reminscient of our long term narcissist.

MatrixTransform
November 7, 2022 8:02 pm

Montypox is not a contributer of good faith

many, many bad actors here

Cassie of Sydney
November 7, 2022 8:06 pm

So clearly her instructions don’t apply to herself, only to others.

Sad.

Roger
Roger
November 7, 2022 8:12 pm

The State of American Politics | Paul Rahe
John Anderson

Watched it last night.

Worth it.

Academic at a truly independent American college (i.e. refuses federal funding).

Zipster
Zipster
November 7, 2022 8:13 pm
miltonf
miltonf
November 7, 2022 8:17 pm

Wow Clyburn cadaver’s even older than Pelosi cadaver.

Cassie of Sydney
November 7, 2022 8:20 pm

“The “oh its so boring to have to refute dumb arguments” is why we have Biden & Elbow in power, sterilization for pre teens and the dickheads in government setting up a Aboriginal shadow state fully funded by taxpayers.”

Well said. Thanks Mole.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Regards a certain cricket player. Several of my staff are Sri Lankan nationals & follow cricket to a degree that makes KD’s cricket-watching look like my AFLW watching.

This afternoon raised with them the matter of the legal troubles of a certain cricket player.
Lots of rolled eyes & comments of “He might have a bit more trouble than usual getting out of it this time

Using comments I’d seen on the Cat to pretend I had actual knowledge, I explored the matter of Wednesday/Saturday & how players don’t have time to scratch themselves on match days.
They all looked at me like I’d just arrived from Mars. “Sir, but he did not play on the Saturday, he was off all that week.”

Roger
Roger
November 7, 2022 8:30 pm

Academic at a truly independent American college (i.e. refuses federal funding).

N.B.

No Australian school or university will ever be truly independent until they refuse government funding.

That the Ramsey Centre, under John Howard, courted a place within several Australian universities, despite a substantial private endowment, and finally settled on Woollongong University, tells you all you need to know about the cluelessness of Australia’s mainstream conservatives.

m0nty
m0nty
November 7, 2022 8:32 pm

Cats: Nazi voices should be heard and contested!

Also Cats: we should not contest leftist voices.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 7, 2022 8:33 pm

as a general rule the method of self-defence cannot exceed the method of attack

Oh great, The law wants to impose a fair fight on those who have been trespassed against. A fair fight usually means you haven’t done enough preparation and practice. Shoot, shutup and shovel seems to have its attractions.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 7, 2022 8:42 pm

m0nty-fa

Different Cats, different opinions. It’s called “diversity”, but of thought, not something leftards can comprehend. You could try it sometimes. Ignore the talking points, look at the evidence and think for yourself.

No hope of you doing that, however.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 7, 2022 8:42 pm

Monty is projecting again.
Seems to be the in thing with the Left lately.

Roger
Roger
November 7, 2022 8:46 pm

Cats: Nazi voices should be heard and contested!

Also Cats: we should not contest leftist voices.

As I’ve said before…

Enough with the “you lot” isms, monty.

Pick an interlocutor and take his/her arguments on.

Anything less is a cop out.

Zipster
Zipster
November 7, 2022 8:46 pm

History and America’s Decline | Paul A. Rahe
John Anderson

excellent interview

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 7, 2022 8:48 pm

as a general rule the method of self-defence cannot exceed the method of attack

As a general rule, a defender in a home invasion has no knowledge of the method of attack. You know he’s an intruder. You don’t know if he has a gun, a knife, an ally in the next room, or a saintly disposition and a box of chocolates. Prudent ppl assume the worst case.

MatrixTransform
November 7, 2022 8:49 pm

Cats: Nazi voices should be heard and contested!
Also Cats: we should not contest leftist voices.

mUnty joins the year 9 debating team?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 7, 2022 8:52 pm

“Sir, but he did not play on the Saturday, he was off all that week.”

Yep. He was injured.

The Lankans weren’t playing on Wednesday, so he would have had nowhere to be. Saturday was very different, because injured players do not get to say ‘I’m off to the movies, see you blokes later.’ They have to be there, amongst the squad, in the team garb, showing a united front and so on.

There are no exceptions at the international level, but the only reason I can think of is if the bloke was such a giant flog that the team and management didn’t want him around, or he’s run the ‘sick relative who I must see before he/she dies’ line.

Either way. Froth and bubble.

Indolent
Indolent
November 7, 2022 8:54 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 7, 2022 8:55 pm

You don’t know if he has a gun, a knife, an ally in the next room, or a saintly disposition and a box of chocolates. Prudent ppl assume the worst case.

Even more prudent people get their stories right before they’re asked the hard questions, and best of luck to them if they do.

Dragnet
Dragnet
November 7, 2022 8:57 pm

Cohenite @ 6.45;pm

It comes as no surprise really given past posture but geez the Law Society are a loathsome organisation. They don’t deserve a cent of my / our money.

I am going to have to suppress a strong gag reaction when I go to pay my next Practising Certificate “fee” aka tax / standover gouge

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

because injured players do not get to say ‘I’m off to the movies, see you blokes later.’

Apparently something like that is his standard modus operandi. Well known tomcatter it seems.
Favourite quote: “Yeah, he might have a bit more trouble than usual getting out of this one”

You betcha. He’s banged up in the hoosegow & staying there for a couple of months.
With that nugget of information in hand, the staff here reckon there won’t be any alleged re-offending for at least two months.

Indolent
Indolent
November 7, 2022 9:00 pm

I don’t know why I’m bothering to link this. Enough evidence of malfeasance, and outright treason, by the Bidens has already been provided to sink the Titanic. Who’s going to do anything about it.

EXCLUSIVE: ‘My dad’s speaking…you should come meet him.’ Hunter Biden’s ex business partner is set to blow whistle with explosive trove of never-before-seen messages, photos and recordings that could expose alleged criminal activity by the First Family

Judge Dredd
Judge Dredd
November 7, 2022 9:06 pm

Me:The COVID vaccine contains Gradient oxide that seems to self assemble under electromagnetism.
NPC: “that’s just a crazy conspiracy theory!”
Me: they are also negatively impact the immune system, have led to excess deaths, miscarriages and decreased fertility.
NPC: “conspiracy theeeeoooorrrrryyy!”
Me:
https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/11/wots-in-the-shots/

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
November 7, 2022 9:17 pm

The Australian running an article of the 5th jab for those who want to comment.

Fifth vaccine push to fight new wave of Covid-19

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 7, 2022 9:19 pm

dover0beachsays:

November 7, 2022 at 6:00 pm

Only 1,500 comments in a bit over two days.
This place is circling the plughole and I think we all know why.

Why?

Zyconoclast, I believe the quoted comment was sarcastic

Duh!
Ya think?
🙂

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 7, 2022 9:19 pm

Saw a bit of Albo today on the box.
Looks like the keto & fasting has ended.

Razey
Razey
November 7, 2022 9:23 pm

Fifth vaccine push to fight new wave of Covid-19

The one that was test on 8 rats?

rosie
rosie
November 7, 2022 9:28 pm

Kathy Griffin suspended from Twitter after ignoring the Elon parody warning, not permanently, if you scroll down Elon has offered to give it back
not quite accurate

Razey
Razey
November 7, 2022 9:28 pm

“Along with ideological indoctrination, a vital factor touched upon but not fully explored in Milgram’s experiments was conformity to the group. The battalion had orders to kill Jews, but each individual did not. Yet 80 to 90 percent of the men proceeded to kill, though almost all of them—at least initially—were horrified and disgusted by what they were doing. To break ranks and step out, to adopt overtly nonconformist behavior, was simply beyond most of the men. It was easier for them to shoot.”

? Christopher R. Browning, Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland

rosie
rosie
November 7, 2022 9:29 pm

#takefivetostayalive

custard
custard
November 7, 2022 9:32 pm

I have lost 12kg this year

Now I weigh 73kg

I have purchased 9kg of silver

Many people are buying silver

Razey
Razey
November 7, 2022 9:38 pm

“Bauman argues that most people “slip” into the roles society provides them, and he is very critical of any implication that “faulty personalities” are the cause of human cruelty. For him the exception—the real “sleeper”—is the rare individual who has the capacity to resist authority and assert moral autonomy but who is seldom aware of this hidden strength until put to the test.”
– Christopher R. Browning, Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
November 7, 2022 9:49 pm

I have purchased 9kg of silver
Many people are buying silver

– Custard.

Silver, like gold, is a “safe haven” investment, but the gains have been minimal over the last two years.
In June 2020 spot price was around $A26, and has averaged about $A30 per ounce since then.

There have been long standing rumours about global silver price manipulation.

Depends whether the Illuminati are investors I suppose.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 7, 2022 9:54 pm

Meanwhile the loonies in Britain are still up to no good:

Just Stop Oil activists defied a High Court order banning them from disrupting the M25 today by scaling eight gantries and closing sections of the motorway in both directions as thousands of drivers desperately tried to get to work.

Queues tailed back for miles in the middle of the Monday morning rush as police rushed to detain the rebels bringing traffic to a standstill at separate locations across the network.

Officers were called to protests in Surrey – at junction 6 and in three other locations between junctions 8-9, 12-13 and 13-14 – as well as in Hertfordshire at junctions 22 and 23, east London at junction 25 and Essex at junction 30.

The protests took place despite a major Metropolitan Police operation to foil their plans, which saw a number of demonstrators, including leader Roger Hallam, arrested last night.

National Highways was also granted a court order which was meant to put an end to disruption on Britain’s busiest motorway.

But the controversial campaigners, who carried out a full month of action in October, were back in force this morning, much to the fury of frustrated drivers.

Daily Mail

custard
custard
November 7, 2022 9:55 pm

Over the last 20 years or so silver has gone up 300%

cohenite
November 7, 2022 10:01 pm

Just watched Buck Privates: jitter bugging, boogie woogie, Abbott and Costello, dollops of patriotism which would get you arrested today and the incomparable Andrews Sisters: Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy.

calli
calli
November 7, 2022 10:06 pm

What’s the story with Musk asking fired staff to return? All the stories appear to be paywalled.

Cassie of Sydney
November 7, 2022 10:06 pm

Just Stop Oil is being funded by Getty Oil.

Do we laugh or cry?

cohenite
November 7, 2022 10:25 pm

Indolentsays:
November 7, 2022 at 9:08 pm
“It’s Not Looking Good” – Martin Armstrong Warns There May Not Be A 2024 Election

Yep; it’s over.

m0nty
m0nty
November 7, 2022 10:26 pm

Over the last 20 years or so silver has gone up 300%

Over the last 30 years, the Dow Jones Index has gone up 900%.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 7, 2022 10:47 pm

Just Stop Oil is being funded by Getty Oil.

Give the little snowflakes a good spanking and send them home to Mum.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 7, 2022 10:54 pm

Rather nice but grim Frog movie on tv.
A very long engagement.
WW1 love story/ detective/ trench warfare hybrid in a magical realism style.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 7, 2022 10:57 pm

It’s funded by an AIDs infected heiress who’s previous claim to fame was being a mindless drug/ cock Hoover in the middle of the original high point of the disease.

That’s the quality of thinking going into ‘ stinkin devolution.

Look her up.

mem
mem
November 7, 2022 11:24 pm

Just a question for Victorians. Have recently realized that if you are not a member of Ambulance Victoria you get quicker service than if you are, but followed by an enormous bill. If you are a member then you have to wait and wait. Today at least an hour more for the same problem. In both instances kidney stones. Somethings rotten in Danistan.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 7, 2022 11:30 pm

BJ, Munty and thinking for yourself are words that are never seen in the same sentence. Munty thinking extends to, “will I have another Krispy Kreme or the rest of the box”. Anything else makes his head hurt.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 7, 2022 11:45 pm

custardsays:

November 7, 2022 at 9:32 pm

I have lost 12kg this year

Now I weigh 73kg

I have purchased 9kg of silver

I couldn’t agree more.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 7, 2022 11:51 pm

callisays:

November 7, 2022 at 10:06 pm

What’s the story with Musk asking fired staff to return? 

He fired 3,000.
Apparently “dozens” have been invited back.
By whom we do not know.
As I said, I don’t think it matters.
I am sure some ex employees will come back.
But Musk has totally smoked the cancerous departments within Twitter. He didn’t leave a sleeper cell behind to go quiet for two weeks then start undermining him again.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 7, 2022 11:53 pm

What should happen:
Cops: Hey, protesters! You coming down?
Protesters: Nup!
Cops: Okay, just let us apply these handcuffs…
Cops: Okay, boys. Traffic flow can be resumed. The protesters have been secured and are not in danger from vehicles.
Protesters: Hey! You just going to leave us here?
Cops: Let us know when you’re ready to come down. But don’t call the emergency number. Use the non-urgent number. Cheerio!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 7, 2022 11:54 pm

Atlassian closed at $123.73, Woohoo. How much overnight? It dropped 30% on opening.

Dot
Dot
November 7, 2022 11:57 pm

I have purchased 9kg of silver

Many people are buying silver

Believe me!

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
November 8, 2022 12:11 am

The Melbourne Museum has a series of Argyle Pink Diamonds on display, including one of the rarest in the world, worth tens of millions, the 2.83 carat Argyle Violet

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
November 8, 2022 12:35 am

Has any Australian newspaper even mentioned only tested on 8 rats ? You have to wonder when they took the money in 2020 did they understand how much they were going to keep hidden from their readers and more importantly their next door neighbours, friends and relatives. They sold out so much they don’t even realise this is going to affect them personally.

If one editor or TV news boss actually reported and investigated properly this never ending sick joke would be over.

“The one that was test on 8 rats?”

JC
JC
November 8, 2022 1:26 am

Rooster

Care to explain what aspect was tested on 8 rats and why that is too few? As a fully accredited medical researcher of world renown how many rats should they have used?

Goi!

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 8, 2022 3:23 am

Fair comment, and amusingly written, but Joe couldn’t forget his now preference in the last line:

Joe Hildebrand: US midterms offer stark lessons for Australian Labor

Just two years after the chaos of Donald Trump’s presidency, the Democrats are heading for a result that will make the Texas Chainsaw Massacre look like Peppa Pig, writes Joe Hildebrand.

During the next 24 hours, tens of millions of Americans will go to the polls. On paper, it will be to elect hundreds of congress men and women, senators and governors to federal and state offices all over the country.

But in truth it is a referendum on just one man: Joe Biden.

And it is for this reason that just two years after the chaos of Donald Trump’s presidency, the Democrats are heading for a result that will make the Texas Chainsaw Massacre look like Peppa Pig.

It would be easy to say that this is because Biden has spent much of his presidency mumbling incoherently and attempting to shake hands with pot plants, but the seeds of this disaster lie right at the heart of the Democratic Party itself – and offer stark lessons for Australian Labor.

The fundamental question is: How is it that the biggest political machine in the world’s greatest democracy was faced with a president they derided as a dangerously incompetent fool, and yet when the time came to defeat him the best they could come up with was a brain-damaged geriatric who could barely string a sentence together?

The reason is that the Democrats forgot about the middle.

Not just Middle America, but the middle of their own party.

At the bottom it had been hijacked by the same green-left activists we see buzzing around in Australia – feeding silly, identity politics-obsessed ideologues into congress – and at the top the party was effectively a multimillion-dollar seatwarmer for the Clintons.

And so you had a party structure comprised of bourgeois radicals talking about defunding the police, stitched to a personality cult around arguably the most powerful couple in the world and deeply embedded with the most elite corporate and political establishment.

But where were normal people?

Indeed, it might as well be put down to divine intervention that spoilt Hillary’s first dance and gave Barack Obama eight effortless years in the White House.

As soon as that was done, Hillary popped back up like an inflatable punching bag only to lose another unlosable race.

And when the Dems needed someone to take on Trump, the cupboard was bare.

Why? Because instead of searching for and developing mainstream middle-American candidates who could beat Trump at an actual election, both Hillary and the activist left were too busy whingeing and whining about how the election was stolen from them because the voting system wasn’t fair or because social media was spreading fake news – ironically, the same claims that Trump and his supporters make about his own loss.

They were so obsessed with delegitimising Trump – whether by endless court cases, violent protests or inane #notmypresident hashtags – that they forgot to find someone who could beat him legitimately.

And so when the time came and the party’s top brass realised that if middle-Americans ever came across a typical Democrat activist in the wild they’d pull out a 12-gauge, the closest thing they had to a leading moderate was Joe Biden.

That is how the biggest democratic political operation on the planet ended up staging a real-world re-enactment of Weekend at Bernie’s. That is why Biden was only elected thanks to an unprecedented and one-off anti-Trump coalition ranging from Romney Republicans to Sanders Socialists.

And that is why the Democrats will be trounced in the midterms even as Trump is contemplating a resurrection that would put Lazarus to shame.

Likewise, British Labour was destroyed not so much by the electorate, but by its own hard-left base and their slavish devotion to the unreconstructed socialist Jeremy Corbyn – a man hated by his own colleagues.

Corbynites were given false hope after riding a post-Brexit wave to come closer than expected to the beige and hamstrung Theresa May. In fact, Corbyn’s party was obliterated at the next poll once the Tories had a charismatic leader in Boris Johnson.

Now under the centrist Keir Starmer, Labour is on track to win back power from opposition for the first time since the centrist Tony Blair did the same in 1997. And the lesson for Australian Labor is equally obvious. For a major party to win and hold government it must be mainstream and that means its membership and values must reflect those of mainstream Australia.

So far, Anthony Albanese has done an admirable job of holding the centre line, but it is a thankless and sleepless job.

Hardline elements are always seeking to hijack the ALP for their own personal or ideological purposes. They think they are activists, but they are more like electoral saboteurs.

On Tuesday, the American Democratic Party is going to suffer the impact of such activism under somnambulant leadership.

God willing, the Australian Labor Party won’t have to.

Tom
Tom
November 8, 2022 4:05 am
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Anchor What
Anchor What
November 8, 2022 5:15 am

it is a referendum on just one man: Joe Biden.
Garrison illustrated the real situation yesterday.
Biden is president cardboard cutout, while behind him lurk the dark forces that menace America and seek to disintegrate it.
As Schumer said before the last Georgia Senate runoff election (probably scammed as well) “if we win Georgia we will change America”.
They proceeded to do just that, and the midterms will be just the start of a fightback. I’m not all that optimistic that the GOP can turn the tide by strictly normal political, administrative and judicial means.
The Rot is Very Deep.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 8, 2022 8:31 am

Real Rukshan on Facebook has published photos of Dan Xi Man’s vehicle from the accident with the cyclist.
They clearly show that his story about the bike t-boning the car is … somewhat implausible.
Can’t link.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 8:59 am

Today at least an hour more for the same problem. In both instances kidney stones

Curiously, the two guys next to me during my weekend “hospitalisation” both had kidney stones. One picked up on a CT scan that seemed to have disappeared. Another guy sounded like he was in more trouble with a blocked bile duct. Not sure if it was an age thing. I was the youngest guy there – not often I can say that anymore.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 9:05 am

They clearly show that his story about the bike t-boning the car is … somewhat implausible.

Would that not be consistent with the kid not slowing down nor seeing the car and riding into the side of it as the gravel bike track crosses the minor side road? The Google Maps picture has been posted previously.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 8, 2022 9:08 am

Apologies – you are saying the idea of the bike T boning the car is implausible?

Winston Smith
November 8, 2022 9:54 am

Sancho:
From Rukshans FB page:
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Those pictures of Dan’s car and the statement.

Kneel
Kneel
November 8, 2022 12:30 pm

Atlassian Corporation Plc

Oh, right. It offers work-from-home platforms, and the gloss is coming off the whole wfh phenomenon.”

JIRA is actually really very good for bug tracking and software development – that was what it was designed to do, and it is second to none in that arena.
If anyone thought it would be good for general “collaboration”, they obviously weren’t paying attention, had never used it themselves, or were geeks who thought everything works like software development.

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