Open Thread – Weekend 3 Dec 2022


The Rector’s Garden – Queen of the Lilies, John Atkinson Grimshaw, 1877


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Rabz
December 3, 2022 12:02 am

The most senior jackbooted hitlerist assigned to the Mz Hoggins screechfest imagined there was insufficient evidence to persecute the Lehrmann but could not stop the ACT Director of Swahili Chieftain Personages from proceeding with the subsequent interminable braindead lamestream meeja driven witch hunt …

A headline we’d rather see, Cats. At least it might bear some passing resemblance to the concept known as reality, even if accidentally/coincidentally.

johanna
johanna
December 3, 2022 12:17 am

Just watching the end of a show about Chris Isaak on FTV.

Opened for Roy Orbison and admires the Big O. Worth investigation.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 3, 2022 12:18 am

Rabz beat me to it.
A damning article by Janet A about doubts by Police and DPP admitting case political.

Police doubted Brittany Higgins but case was ‘political’

Will leave to others to post whole article as off to bed.

johanna
johanna
December 3, 2022 12:26 am

TheirABC tells it like it is:#

A woman who killed her abusive partner believing it was reasonable to defend herself will be eligible for parole in six months, with her family calling for more culturally appropriate anti-violence support.
Key points:

Monica Walley was a victim of domestic violence by her partner
She killed him in 2019 on the day they were celebrating their daughter’s birthday
The judge took into account the extreme domestic violence she suffered in sentencing

Monica Vivianne Liza Walley, 37, pleaded guilty to the manslaughter of her partner of 15 years at home in Port Augusta three years ago.

The father-of-five cannot be identified for cultural reasons, instead referred to as Kumanara — a Pitjantjatjara word used for recently deceased men.

He was remembered in the Supreme Court as “a cultural man”, “family oriented” and “a talented football player”.

Pity it didn’t happen on a couch in Parly House.

Rabz
December 3, 2022 12:48 am

He was remembered in the Supreme Kangaroo Court as “a cultural man”

As one would hope to be. Except when one would not.

What the f*#k is “a cultural man”?

We exist in a time which will in the future (if it’s even remembered/transcribed) be known as “the Grate Blundering and subsequent long overdue extinctification of the house sized bottomage blessed agglomeration of idiots that devolved from woke imbeciles [BIRM]”

Shortly before the “Advent of the Vogons“.

Who subsequently upended all their sacred traditions with this very blunt communique:

“Humanitee, you were wrong (again).”

KABOOM!

Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 12:54 am
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 3, 2022 1:33 am

One of life’s experiences is watching a woman, convinced that no mere male can resist her charms, attempting to lure a man to her dwelling for a lesson on comparative anatomy – without realizing that he’s gay, and one of the group around the table is his partner….

Ek roll ap die vloor….

johanna
johanna
December 3, 2022 1:38 am

Dover, I started getting emails to an address only known to you recently. The link is Rafe Champion.

Fix up your security, FFS. Or, is Rafe using your info?

JC
JC
December 3, 2022 2:12 am

Question to ponder.

Has Bird got to Ye?

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 3, 2022 2:14 am

via Johanna & ZK2A:

The Lehrmann trial is over – but it will never really be over

Y’know what I reckon.

I reckon… a dingo humped Brittany.

2dogs
2dogs
December 3, 2022 2:18 am

Police doubted Brittany Higgins but case was ‘political’

This is a damning statement about magistrate Robert Cook. Such a case should never pass committal proceedings.

JC
JC
December 3, 2022 2:51 am

You know, I always suspected that she could have deluded herself into thinking she was R…. by the L. I now don’t think she even believed that.
Moral of the story.
Choose people you hang out with very carefully.

TrevorG
TrevorG
December 3, 2022 3:17 am

H&L
Well, I wouldn’t be in a situation like that in the first place, not my style.
But imagine seeing a spewing-up nearly unconscious, woman who might even be pi..ing herself and still feeling horny?

I don’t think so.
Sorry about being blunt.

Funny thing about spelling, I can spot nearly 99% of mistakes but not necessarily correct them.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 3, 2022 3:18 am

JCsays:
December 3, 2022 at 2:12 am
Question to ponder.

Has Bird got to Ye?

Name all the evil Jews in the world?

Is that question allowed, JC?

TrevorG
TrevorG
December 3, 2022 3:29 am

Steve trickler says:
December 3, 2022 at 3:18 am

Lonely at the Lollypop blog, Steve?
You are always welcome here and at the Furniture store, get more views too.

JC
JC
December 3, 2022 3:38 am

Name all the evil Ticklers that have existed in the world. Is that question allowed, Tickler?

Your question crashes on first principles. Who and what is actually “a Jew”? Is it a religious connotation? Is it ethnic?

Have there been and are there evil Catholics in the world?

Here’s one, in his own words.

Hitler privately assured General Gerhard Engel in 1941 that “I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.” In a speech in the early years of his rule, Hitler declared himself “Not a Catholic, but a German Christian”.

The very troubling issue with categorizing like this is that it always acts to disguise good old fashioned antisemitism, which in turn, is always disguising envy. Envy against a small bunch of incredibly decent , law-abiding folks ( see criminal stats based on ethnic origin) who also happen to be extremely successful in all their focuses.

It’s one thing to say like some people here like Driller for instance who happens to intensely dislike Italians for some reason. It’s an altogether different whale species to attack Jewish people after what happened in WW2 and previous history of pogroms. So fuck yea, they are a special group. Very.

Most likely all these little angels never made it.

Think about that next time.

JC
JC
December 3, 2022 3:41 am

Tickler

One more thing. Why don’t you post the entire discourse over at the Lollipop Cat and see what happens. It would be interesting to see if you had to offer another apology to be able to post 100s of vids there.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 3, 2022 3:50 am

Kaboom!

Lonely at the Lollypop blog, Steve?

You stole that from JC.

Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 4:01 am
TrevorG
TrevorG
December 3, 2022 4:02 am

TrevorG says:
December 3, 2022 at 3:29 am

Lonely at the Lollypop blog, Steve?
You are always welcome here and at the Furniture store, get more views too.

Just had a peep over there and I withdraw the invite, strange place that one.

Lollipop blog?
You stole that from JC.

Unashamedly I admit.

I’m up at this ungodly hour bc of some problems health wise, won’t take long to get back on tracks, thanks God and good medical care, it still exists, I assure you.

Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 4:15 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 3, 2022 4:15 am

JCsays:
December 3, 2022 at 3:41 am
Tickler

One more thing. Why don’t you post the entire discourse over at the Lollipop Cat and see what happens. It would be interesting to see if you had to offer another apology to be able to post 100s of vids there.

What is your risk analysis on man made global warming ?

Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 4:17 am
Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 4:18 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 3, 2022 4:19 am

Go for it JC. Are we under threat from c02?

Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 4:20 am
Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 4:21 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 3, 2022 4:30 am

Pinball commentary reacting to MSM is strong in this place. They dictate the narrative and it is a – insert coin and comment.

JC
JC
December 3, 2022 4:48 am

My risk analysis?

Grossly alarmist, grossly overestimated grossly mistreated and grossly abused as a cudgel against capitalism.

I’d you’re worried then advocate for nuke and STFU.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 3, 2022 4:55 am

JCsays:
December 3, 2022 at 4:48 am

Co2 is not a threat. No need for nukes to placate a fraud. You go nukes for energy efficiency, yes?

JC
JC
December 3, 2022 6:07 am

You go nukes for energy efficiency, yes?

Done right, eventually scaling would allow energy to be priced dirt cheap.

Mater
December 3, 2022 6:12 am

The 20 somethings thought it was a no brainer. Dan is a lovely guy and shares his daily thoughts and achievements with them daily. ‘He always has a positive message!’.

Ah yes, Dan’s positive messages. Here’s a goody, where he slices off a section of his constituency, and tells them they are irrelevant to society (4 minutes) and his intent of maintaining the architecture to do that to people.

https://youtu.be/TLqYH3nAAi4

Full Presser here (19 Oct 21), including outlining how he was going to pervert democracy and reduce it to those who follow his rules (32:36).

Like all lefties, he dusts his evil with just enough faux compassion to make it palatable, even desirable, for many.

rosie
rosie
December 3, 2022 6:31 am

What is that nutjubs like Stew Peters ‘react’ to?
Could it be whatever gets the most eyeballs and profits for him?
He’s the guy that ‘broke’ the story about Australian school students collapsing and dying at a vaccination session at Homebush stadium in 2021.
So much more reliable than the msm.

Anchor What
Anchor What
December 3, 2022 6:40 am

Saw Albo chatting with Finland’s party girl PM in a TV news report yesterday.
No doubt he was enjoying the experience, but the truth is she simply makes him look old.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
December 3, 2022 6:49 am

It’s good to be the Rector!

Dot
Dot
December 3, 2022 6:55 am

You never know.

Ye might being a “performance art” thing.

Or Pete Davidson broke his brain.

Dot
Dot
December 3, 2022 6:57 am

This is a damning statement about magistrate Overt Crook.

Fixed.

Dot
Dot
December 3, 2022 7:03 am

Victoria is so near incurably corrupt it needs to be torn asunder (we can give it a cool name like “The Sundering”) and split in two east-west on the Yarra up to the Murray.

All judges, cops, gaolers, prosecutors and even criminal lawyers need to be “cleanskins” in the new states of Koo Wee Rup and Broadmeadows.

Dot
Dot
December 3, 2022 7:08 am

Let’s not be too harsh on Our Sanna.

She’s a worshipper of Isha, not Slaanesh.

We all know the Emperor and Isha got it on once too.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 3, 2022 7:09 am

ACT Victim of Crimes Commissioner Heidi Yates should have some explaining to do as to her role in any legal process.
Why did she instruct police that they should only go through her when contacting Britnah?
She wasn’t legally representing Britnah.
Seems that by releasing their doubts of the merits and motivations of the case that police are pointing to people like Yates.
Yates is an political operative and not a public advocate. I doubt she knows the difference. Should be sacked tomorrow except it’s the ACT and not a normal place.

Dot
Dot
December 3, 2022 7:10 am

The moment in life when you realise Kim Kardashian makes reliable psychiatric diagnoses.

Whew.

Shit.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 7:18 am

The Cops didn’t think the Case could get up, not that that it was without merit.
As it turned out, they were wrong.
But for a conniving Juror, it woulda got up.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 7:20 am

Pretty clearly, the bad Juror was the only one blocking a Guilty verdict.

Gabor
Gabor
December 3, 2022 7:22 am

Ed Case says:
December 3, 2022 at 7:18 am

The Cops didn’t think the Case could get up, not that that it was without merit.
As it turned out, they were wrong.
But for a conniving Juror, it woulda got up.

Did anyone tell you today, that you are wrong again and should FO?
If not FO.

calli
calli
December 3, 2022 7:26 am

Yates is an political operative and not a public advocate. I doubt she knows the difference. Should be sacked tomorrow except it’s the ACT and not a normal place.

I know a bit about Yates. A Canberra creation through and through.

That idiot Morrison fell for the story hook, line and sinker. Curiously his defence minister did not, but she was sidelined and trashed early in the piece.

I won’t steal Cassie’s thunder and re-print Albrechtsen’s article here. She can have the pleasure. 😀

calli
calli
December 3, 2022 7:34 am

There is also an excellent thread on the subject over at Currency Lad’s with some insightful comments. Worth a look.

bespoke
bespoke
December 3, 2022 7:34 am

Yates is an political operative and not a public advocate.

Indeed Gez. I’m thinking duties are being neglected such as support for families of murder victims.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 3, 2022 7:37 am

Or perhaps, just perhaps Ed, nothing untoward ever happened.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 3, 2022 7:37 am

Eww.

Disney Star Bette Midler Goes on Profane Environmental Rant: ‘I Bathe Once a Month! F**k You!’ (1 Dec)

“Disney’s Hocus Pocus 2 star Bette Midler lost her cool Wednesday when a random Twitter commenter challenged her commitment to environmental activism, launching an unhinged and profane online rant in which she claimed “I bathe once a month!”

Bette Midler lashed out at the sarcastic commenter who questioned whether or not the star has made any real sacrifices for her activism.”

Remind me never to be downwind of Ms Midler.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 7:39 am

What’s Yates gotta do with anything?
She’s clearly had an agenda to see the prosecution fail, and she did what she could to make it fail.

PeterM
PeterM
December 3, 2022 7:40 am

But for a conniving Juror

You don’t think the jury was leaning to Not Guilty?

Mater
December 3, 2022 7:40 am

Ed Case
says:
November 13, 2022 at 12:23 pm
All Labor is left with are scare campaigns, and Matty has neutralised Abortion as an issue, so Andrews is fucked.?I’m calling Lib/Nat at 55 seats, Labor 25, the rest Green.?

You know, Ed, something just occurred to me.

Given that the Lib/Nats are currently on 25 and Labor has 52 (and still in contention for at least 3 more), a strong possibility exists that you’ll be 100% (that is 180 degrees) wrong on this call.

To call wrongly for either a Labor or Lib win is 50/50, but to predict it 100% wrong, down to the number of seats, would be quite a feat.

Monty will be jealous, if it plays out.

PeterM
PeterM
December 3, 2022 7:41 am

towards

JC
JC
December 3, 2022 7:41 am

Score one for religious freedom in Ukraine.

ZELENSKY BANS THE ORTHODOX CHURCH IN UKRAINE

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 3, 2022 7:42 am

Police were also highlighting mental health as a factor well before the latest manifestation.
Interviewing Higgins must have put the thought in their minds from the start. We may have a girl that’s had issues for quite some time. It’s about the right age for developing conditions.

Tom
Tom
December 3, 2022 7:43 am

Paywallian:
The most senior police officer on the Brittany Higgins case believed there was insufficient evidence to prosecute Bruce Lehrmann but could not stop the ACT Director of Public Prosecutions from proceeding because “there is too much political interference”, according to diary notes made by the ACT Police Manager of Criminal Investigations, Detective Superintendent Scott Moller.
In a separate executive briefing last year, Superintendent Moller advised that investigators “have serious concerns in relation to the strength and reliability of [Ms Higgins’] evidence but also more importantly her mental health and how any future ¬prosecution may affect her ¬wellbeing”.
On Friday the ACT DPP, Shane Drumgold SC, withdrew the charges against Mr Lehrmann, citing concerns for Ms Higgins’ mental health, so his retrial – set down for February – will no longer proceed. The original trial was aborted in October due to juror misconduct.
The executive briefing lists a series of concerns by senior police, including that Ms Higgins had ¬repeatedly refused to provide her original mobile phone; had -deliberately deleted messages from a second phone; had lied about seeking medical attention after the incident; and had joked about wanting “a sex scandal” a month before the incident. Some became issues at the trial.
The briefing, dated June 9, 2021, states that “there is limited corroborative evidence of sexual intercourse taking place or ¬consent being withdrawn or not provided”.
An attached minute signed by Detective Inspector Marcus Boorman, the investigation manager assigned to the case, states: “Investigators at this juncture have a number of concerns ¬regarding inconsistencies in disclosures and other evidence ¬obtained during the investigation. In light of the issues identified, ¬serious concerns exist as to whether there is sufficient ¬evidence to prove the alleged ¬offence.”
The documents obtained by The Weekend Australian also ¬reveal that Ms Higgins texted boyfriend David Sharaz in May last year saying: “F..k it, if they want to play hard ball I’ll cry on The Project again because of this sort of treatment.”
None of the texts or the police doubts about the case were ¬revealed to the jury.
Superintendent Moller made notes of a conversation with his boss, ACT Deputy Chief Police Officer Michael Chew, on June 17 last year while discussing Operation Covina – the Higgins/Lehrmann sexual assault case.
At that point in the investigation, The Weekend Australian understands, more than half of the witness list had yet to be interviewed by police, but it appears the DPP, led by Mr Drumgold, had ¬already decided to prosecute.
In the diary note, Superintendent Moller wrote: “Insufficient evidence to proceed.
“DCPO [Mr Chew] advised he had a meeting with DPP who ¬stated they will recommend ¬prosecution. DCPO stated ‘if it was my choice I wouldn’t proceed. But it’s not my choice. There is too much political interference’. I said: ‘That’s disappointing given I think there is insufficient evidence’.”
The following day Superintendent Moller forwarded a copy of the interim brief of evidence to Commander Andrew Smith to conduct an independent review of the investigation. The result of that review is not known.
THEAUSTRALIAN.COM.AU09:13
Lehrmann rape trial being dropped means the case will be ‘unresolved forever’
Ms Higgins first spoke to police on April 1, 2019, a week after the events at Parliament House, but informed them two weeks later she did not wish to continue with the allegations. On February 5, 2021, she re-engaged with police, telling them she had been interviewed by the media and didn’t want to do an evidence-in-chief interview until her interview with The Project host Lisa Wilkinson had aired on television.
The following day “police ¬advised Ms Higgins the intended media events … may jeopardise any subsequent criminal investigation; however Ms Higgins made it clear to police she was not willing to provide investigators with a formal statement in relation to the allegations until the media stories had been published. Ms Higgins stated that she wanted to ensure the sexual assault investigation was ‘active’ in anticipation of the media events.”
The TV program aired on February 15 and Ms Higgins sat down with police for her evidence-in-chief interview nine days later.
At that interview investigators reiterated to her the need to examine her mobile phone for potential evidence. “Ms Higgins refused to hand over her phone despite being explained the evidential value of the process,” the police report says.
The AFP statement of facts prepared by Superintendent Moller reflects police frustration over difficulties in obtaining Ms Higgins’ mobile phone after the interview to extract data.
On March 15, when police had arranged for a second time to meet Ms Higgins to obtain the phone, she failed to turn up or to respond to calls. “During the afternoon on the same date police observed Ms Higgins on commercial television at the March4Justice march at Parliament House,” Superintendent Moller wrote.
ACT DPP explains decision to drop the Brittany Higgins, Bruce Lehrmann case
“She attended the location and gave a speech to the persons ¬present.”
On May 5, 2021, Superintendent Moller was informed that ACT Victims of Crime Commissioner Heidi Yates had advised that any contact with Ms Higgins was now to go to her rather than directly to Ms Higgins.
Three weeks later, Superintendent Moller and other detectives met Ms Higgins, who was accompanied by Ms Yates, at the Winchester Police Centre in Canberra, where she gave a second ¬interview.
“During this conversation I stressed to Ms Higgins the importance of refraining from participating in any media interviews in relation to this matter,” Superintendent Moller says in his police statement.
On this occasion Ms Higgins handed over a mobile phone.
Police recovered a text ¬exchange between Ms Higgins and former boyfriend Ben ¬Dillaway dated February 7, 2019, six weeks before the alleged rape, in which the pair joked about wanting a political sex scandal.
“The bar for what counts as a political sex scandal nowadays is REALLY low,” Ms Higgins wrote.
“I want a sex scandal I can be like whoa. Impressive. Didn’t think he had it in him,” Mr Dillaway wrote.
“Exactly! A sex scandal the party can be proud of. Another Barnaby but without the baby haha,” Ms Higgins responded.
On July 12 last year Superintendent Moller again met Ms Higgins and Ms Yates, this time at AFP headquarters in Brisbane to update her on the investigation.
“Ms Higgins advised that any photos taken on the night of the incident were saved on her Google drive attached to her iCloud but she could not recall taking any photos.
“Ms Higgins advised (of) the photo of an injury to her leg she took herself on WhatsApp during budget week, however she could not recall the exact date. Ms Higgins advised she shared this photo with The Project on 19 January 2021.
“Ms Higgins advised she had seven iPhones since 2019, most had been supplied by the government as part of her work and they had been returned when she changed jobs, however Ms Higgins was happy for police to take the old phones she had.”
During the conversation Superintendent Moller showed Ms Higgins text messages ¬between herself and Mr Sharaz on May 21, 2021 about her sending him an audio file because she was “clearing out her phone ahead of the police”.
“Ms Higgins told me that the files she had sent to David Sharaz and deleted from her phone related to taped conversations of her talking to various ministers and she was concerned she had committed an offence by taping the ministers so she didn’t want the police to find them.”
Ms Yates returned later that day and handed over two iPhones from Ms Higgins.

Anvil d'ACME
Anvil d’ACME
December 3, 2022 7:47 am

Good morning Moderation

bespoke
bespoke
December 3, 2022 7:48 am

What’s Yates gotta do with anything?

Err that’s the point ED she should not have had eny public roll at all.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 7:50 am

Or perhaps, just perhaps Ed, nothing untoward ever happened.
Here’s your problem with that fantasy:
if you’d read Albrechtsen’s whitewash carefully, you’d know that the Cops accepted Intercourse had occurred, they just weren’t confident that a Jury would accept that Consent hadn’t been obtained.

Remember, at the time the story broke, sources in Canberra were telling journalists this wasn’t the first time this had happened.

calli
calli
December 3, 2022 7:51 am

“Mental health” is always a good “out” if things go pear shaped.

Pop it into the case notes and there it sits as an insurance policy. And it’s a great bet each way – if a woman has been raped, her mental health will be compromised. How could it not be? If she’s fabricating a case, ditto.

This entire imbroglio may have been great for the Sisterhood and their tawdry middle-aged bandwagon, but it has done zero for victims of this most heinous of crimes.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 8:00 am

The executive briefing lists a series of concerns by senior police, including that Ms Higgins had … had lied about seeking medical attention after the incident;

She made Doctors appointments, but didn’t attend.
That ain’t lyin’.

… and had joked about wanting “a sex scandal” a month before the incident.

So what?
Even the Cops accept that she was joking.
Here’s the bottom line:
The Cops are always political everywhere.
Now, the DPP and a Magistrate had ruled that the Case had legs, but powerful forces lined up to torpedo the Trial, and the cops are trying to switch sides.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
December 3, 2022 8:04 am

Round 3738384848448483747636734 of the GayBC’s Marxist pervert war on Christianity:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-03/catholic-hospitals-denying-womens-healthcare-australia-hospitals/101712558

bespoke
bespoke
December 3, 2022 8:04 am

calli

It been a travesty from the start with people identifying with the accused or accuser along political lines.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 8:04 am

Pop it into the case notes and there it sits as an insurance policy. And it’s a great bet each way – if a woman has been raped, her mental health will be compromised. How could it not be? If she’s fabricating a case, ditto.

That’s completely nuts.

Cassie of Sydney
December 3, 2022 8:05 am

From The Oz…by Janet Albrechtsen. I suspect Albrechtsen is angry, rightly so.

Too many reasons why DPP should never have prosecuted Bruce Lehrmann
JANET ALBRECHTSEN

The decision by ACT Director of Public Prosecutions Shane Drumgold to withdraw the sexual assault charge against Bruce Lehrmann due to the mental health of Brittany Higgins is too late and too little.

In that order. Too late because the DPP should have decided not to prosecute Lehrmann in the first place. Too little because Drumgold should have made that earlier decision for two reasons: the inconsistency and lack of evidence, and the mental health of Higgins.

After all, as revealed on Saturday by The Weekend Australian, the most senior Australian Federal Police officers involved in the investigation gave precisely those reasons in a report and in a conversation with the DPP explaining their view there should never have been a prosecution at all.

An AFP executive briefing authored by Detective Superintendent Scott Moller and Detective Inspector Marcus Boorman, and dated June 9, 2021, raised a series of inconsistencies and difficulties with Higgins’s evidence and concluded that their investigation “identified a number of potential evidentiary and psychological issues that may affect any future prosecution”.

The Weekend Australian also has obtained copies of diary entries by Moller that reported a conversation between the most senior police officer involved in the Higgins investigation, DCPO Michael Chew, and the DPP. After learning the DPP planned to prosecute Lehrmann, in his diary entry Moller recorded Chew as saying “if it was my choice I wouldn’t proceed. But it [is] not my choice. There is too much political interference”. Moller’s response is recorded in the same diary note: “That’s disappointing given I think there is insufficient evidence.”

The DPP chose to ignore the views and advice of the AFP after its investigation into the allegations by Higgins. As reported by The Weekend Australian on Saturday, police concerns about a prosecution were laid out in detail in Moller’s briefing. This AFP document became a legal tug of war, its contents hidden from the public and deemed irrelevant for the jury. It was not disclosed to the defence; instead it had to be subpoenaed.

These revelations raise serious questions about the administration of justice. Given the AFP advice and the real potential for the zealotry of the #MeToo media to influence members of a jury, why did the DPP choose to prosecute Lehrmann? Was Drumgold influenced by the same forces?

The aborted trial confirmed the serious inconsistencies in Higgins’s evidence. These included claims about what she did with the dress she wore the night of the alleged rape; about whether she or her boyfriend, David Sharaz, forwarded a dossier about the allegation to journalists before she went to police; inconsistent evidence about bruises to her leg and about the fact she had deleted material from her phone, including texts she sent to a Parliament House security guard the morning after the alleged rape. In the end, there was no forensic evidence of a rape. There was no objective evidence that sex happened, consensual or otherwise.

The AFP material and the way the case proceeded raise serious questions about the DPP’s judgment. Not merely that Drumgold began this case against strong police advice in the first place but about the fact that even now, in his Friday statement, his aim seemed to be to protect Higgins from further public scrutiny, which invariably includes criticism. Drumgold’s focus on the bravery of Higgins, when there has been no finding of guilt, is especially troubling. Higgins’s allegation remains just that – an allegation.

Remember, Higgins could have proceeded with this trial minus the media attention. She has been subjected to public scrutiny because she chose to go to the media before she gave police a formal record of interview. She chose to give evidence in court rather than in a remote witness room. Higgins courted publicity before the trial started, during the trial, and on the day the trial was aborted and since then.

The Australian’s Legal Affairs Contributor Chris Merritt says the case of Bruce Lehrmann and Brittany Higgins… being dropped means it will be “unresolved forever”. ACT Director of Public Prosecutions Shane Drumgold on Friday announced it was “no longer in the public interest” to pursue a prosecution after medical More

Indeed, the DPP should now be much more concerned about the way in which this untested allegation was initially and subsequently publicised, the media circus around it and its impact on whether Lehrmann could receive a fair trial. If Drumgold is not now looking seriously at contempt charges for those involved, we should ask more probing questions of the DPP’s judgment. If the DPP and courts do not draw a line in the sand to protect against the real possibility for the contamination of the justice system, and of juries, #MeToo media trials will continue to threaten a fair trial.

One would have thought that an impartial prosecutor, mindful of the presumption of innocence, would at least have sought the same solicitude for Lehrmann, who also has suffered enormously throughout this ordeal. Where was Drumgold’s plea for attacks on Lehrmann to be brought to an end?

If a DPP, as an officer of the court, does not defend the presumption of innocence, especially when they choose not to re-prosecute a defendant, how can we expect others, who are not legally trained, to understand that our criminal justice system is the last bulwark against injustices in our society?

The AFP material raises one further serious matter. The AFP diary note mentions “political interference” in this case. While we do not know what that interference was, or from where it came, any political interference in prosecution decisions is fundamentally repugnant to the rule of law. The DPP should either confirm there was none or tell us about it in detail.

The DPP’s decision on Friday not to re-try Lehrmann is the right decision. But questions remain. And it is a shame that Drumgold didn’t make the right decision earlier before so much damage was done to the lives of two young people at the centre of this tawdry episode.

A few points…

Remember these words in the above piece, “political interference”. As I wrote yesterday, it was clear to me (and others) that there was a hideous and nauseating stench about this from the beginning. Just remember, first the Higgins soap broke, with the amphibian’s “scoop” on The Project and then a few weeks later the most fabulous, ludicrous, rambling, raving allegations about Christian Porter broke. It was so fucking obvious that there was political malfeasance behind all of this but the always spineless, the always supine, the always craven and the eternally capitulating Scumbag and the Liberals fell for it all, hook, line and stinker.

I do hope The Australian seeks to find out just what was the “political interference”. Now that’s what would be “investigatory journalism” and that would make for interesting reading. I have no doubt, no doubt whatsoever, that certain mean girls and boys from Labor and the Greens were up to their necks in this tawdry affair.

The more I read about this, the more physically sick I feel. Drumgold’s speech yesterday, outlining why he was not continuing with the case, was a disgrace and he should be hauled before a disciplinary hearing and disbarred.

I weep for this country but I weep particularly for the young man, Bruce Lehmann, and remember this…

BRUCE LEHMANN IS THE ONLY VICTIM HERE.

calli
calli
December 3, 2022 8:07 am

You just said that

The Cops are always political everywhere.

Yet my comment about putting a reference to mental health in the case notes is “nuts”.

You’re all over the place like a mad woman’s breakfast.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 8:09 am

It been a travesty from the start with people identifying with the accused or accuser along political lines.

Huh?
Liberal & Labor joined forces against Higgins.
Apart from the 11 Jurors who were solid for a Guilty verdict and the ACT DPP, she had no one.

calli
calli
December 3, 2022 8:12 am

The excited trolling and idiocy tells me all I need to know. I wonder if the same talking points are on other fora following the Oz piece?

There will be a lot more to come, of that I am now certain.

Cassie of Sydney
December 3, 2022 8:13 am

So the Daily Terror here in NSW has a front page piece about Knickerless, written by a member of the monstrous cabal of women, a Ms Samantha Maiden, where she’s writen the following..

“Brittany Higgins was hospitalised on mental health grounds during the first trial after she went missing and police were called to locate her in Canberra.

News.com.au can reveal for the first time the reason for her disappearance after the ACT Supreme Court lifted an October 10 suppression order.

The serious incident involved multiple police cars being called to search for her and an ambulance being dispatched to her hotel.

She was located by police walking in the rain and taken to the Canberra hospital before she spent five days at a Canberra mental health clinic.”

Hmm, I’m reminded of the US series, Breaking Bad.

Oh and do hope Ms Higgins was wearing knickers when she decided to walk alone in the streets at night. Any male that found her would be at risk of a rape allegation.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 8:16 am

Is The Australian allowing comments on the Albrechtsen article?
Not a chance in a million.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 8:19 am

The excited trolling and idiocy tells me all I need to know.
You and your cronies are the ones who are being hysterical.

bespoke
bespoke
December 3, 2022 8:19 am
calli
calli
December 3, 2022 8:19 am

She was located by police walking in the rain and taken to the Canberra hospital before she spent five days at a Canberra mental health clinic.”

Yet after the jury was compromised and dismissed she was trotted out to do a statement on the courthouse steps. In spite of a new trial being scheduled and an instruction not to speak about the case.

We appear to have two Higginses here.

#1 – too sick to attend court
#2 – well enough to front the cameras

Not buying any of it. It’s off.

custard
custard
December 3, 2022 8:21 am

Elon to reveal the election manipulation at the top of the hour

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1598778884639653891?s=61&t=gMKL2VGH64Tb-LymkEeGEQ

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 3, 2022 8:25 am

For Rabz, this is ‘our song’ for all lovers.
‘Love is the sweetest thing’

For you today.
Let your heart sing it!

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 3, 2022 8:29 am

A little girl asks her father “What is SEX?” The father thinks, this is the day i tell my little princess everything about sex, he sits her down and explains sex including, sexual intercourse, conception, sperms, eggs, ovulation, menstruation, etc. Then the little girls asks “Daddy what is a COUPLE?”
And he explains that it means two people engaging in sex, including homos and lesbians, paedophiles and everything. Finally, he asks the little girl “Why do u want to know about a couple and sex?” She answered that “Mommy said that lunch will be ready in A COUPLE OF SECS”.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 3, 2022 8:31 am

Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature. And that is because, in the last analysis, we ourselves are a part of the mystery that we are trying to solve.

– Max Planck

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 3, 2022 8:32 am

JC -as I recall it, that photo of the Jewish children is one taken as they were being brought out of that hellhole and Mengele’s grasp by Christian nuns; many of them would have survived, albeit orphans.
The more tragic photographs of those who didn’t are in Holocaust Memorial Museums world-wide.
And you are right to emphasise just how awful this massacre of the innocents was. How could people do such a thing? that’s always the question. But throughout history they have done so, and in Africa it is still happening in the name of Islam.

To say nothing of the massacres of adults through the ages too.
What a species we are. In need of improving and of being forgiven – the Christian message.

Gabor
Gabor
December 3, 2022 8:33 am

calli says:
December 3, 2022 at 8:19 am

We appear to have two Higginses here.

#1 – too sick to attend court
#2 – well enough to front the cameras

Not buying any of it. It’s off.

Not enough who think like you, too many who do buy it.
I do honestly feel for the poor bloke, he is in a no win position, his chance of a normal life within OZ or even abroad is nil.
Sue for damages? I wouldn’t.
Will we ever know what has truly happened?

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 3, 2022 8:34 am

Fixation with Numbers

From Armstrong Economics –

COMMENT: You Know…years ago, all these different monthly reports did not affect the markets day to day so much.

Now…Today..these reports send huge panic cycles in the markets every time they are announced. Doesn’t that tell you something about the future?? Doesn’t that tell you something about the US economy? The end keeps getting closer.

REPLY: “This is clearly the uncertainty. Everything seems to be upside down. Nobody understands the future or what might even happen. Will there be war? Will inflation actually stop? Are we headed into a major recession? How can the markets rally facing a major recession? So many questions and most have just opinions.

Even my interpretations of the computer arrays are sometimes wrong. Things are unfolding on such a global scale that concerns are rising everywhere. You have North Korea shooting missiles off over Japan, NATO members think Ukraine should join NATO, and Iran is threatening nuclear war in the Middle East. All of this while Schwab tells the world we will own nothing and be happy. To many, it has become just flip a coin and see if you should buy or sell.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/trading/fixation-with-numbers/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Anvil d'ACME
Anvil d’ACME
December 3, 2022 8:36 am

Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature. And that is because, in the last analysis, we ourselves are a part of the mystery that we are trying to solve.

– Max Planck

Is another organism that we know of trying to solve the mysteries of the universe?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 3, 2022 8:41 am

Don’t know about Higgins.
I have a mate who was married to a girl with a serious mental condition that was put down to post natal depression.
It never was.
She convinced the police and public support networks that my mate was up to all sorts of terrible things and it was heading for a court case.
It all came to a head when she was found wandering the streets at night right off her chump. A nurse heading to work noticed her and called for help. Committed within hours.
People with mental health problems can go a very long way down the tunnel taking others with them until the inevitable crash.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 3, 2022 8:41 am

Provide evidence of a bipartisan effort to get Lehmann off Denis Denuto, er Ed. Go!

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 3, 2022 8:42 am

Lehrmann ffs

Anvil of ACME
Anvil of ACME
December 3, 2022 8:42 am

Max Planck

Are you certain it was Max?

calli
calli
December 3, 2022 8:43 am

The “walking around in the rain” trope is the giveaway. If she was genuinely suicidal, nothing to stop her taking a handful of paracetamol and simply waiting. Or even a handful of something less toxic but stomach churning.

It looks nice and romantic and hollywood-esque, but it isn’t real. Cutting is real. Taking pills is real. It isn’t despair or even a “call for help”. It’s a stagey tactic meant to elicit an emotional response with zero harm to the person doing it. This woman is a media liaison expert, surrounded by other media tarts and political operatives and politicians.

Still not buying.

calli
calli
December 3, 2022 8:46 am

It all came to a head when she was found wandering the streets at night right off her chump. A nurse heading to work noticed her and called for help. Committed within hours.

Quite. Off the reservation, found, diagnosed and hospitalised. It’s a long road to recovery once the physical disorientation kicks in.

Was she capable of fronting the cameras a few days later?

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 3, 2022 8:47 am

Here’s your problem with that fantasy:

Except it isn’t fantasy, was proven in a court of law.
One paragraph in that piece linked earlier piqued my interest. It was that those texts and police doubts were not presented to the jury. Why would that occur? Any Cat or Kittehs (other than Ed who is wrong about everything) can assist?

Dot
Dot
December 3, 2022 8:48 am

ZELENSKY BANS THE ORTHODOX CHURCH IN UKRAINE

Let me guess…

1. Zero hedge dooming.
2. He banned the Russian Orthodox “Church” which is the PR/propaganda arm of the KGBist Putin junta and headed by a KGB asset, Kiril, who (blasphemously) blessed Putin’s war as a “holy” war.
3. Don’t forget the Tsarist/Russian Orthodox role in modern antisemitism, which “Western” Putinists dog whistle to, overtly; * Nazi clown Zelensky* and OVERTLY; *Khazaria IS Ukraine!!1*…

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 3, 2022 8:51 am

Steve tricklersays:
December 3, 2022 at 4:15 am
JCsays:
December 3, 2022 at 3:41 am
Tickler

One more thing. Why don’t you post the entire discourse over at the Lollipop Cat and see what happens. It would be interesting to see if you had to offer another apology to be able to post 100s of vids there.

What is your risk analysis on man made global warming ?

A scientific fraud that makes Piltdown Man look like a kindergarten prank? The only risk is in the willful destruction of the scientific method for political purposes.

mem
mem
December 3, 2022 8:55 am

Gaborsays:

December 3, 2022 at 8:33 am
Sue for damages? I wouldn’t.

On the contrary I would, but who to sue? The DPP would be a good start if it is feasible.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 3, 2022 8:56 am

So Higgins got a sinecure in Canbra at the age of 19? Not even the uni bludge course? Must be well connected eh. Another example of the idiots, cretins and traitors in charge of this great country.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 3, 2022 8:57 am

Ed Casesays:
December 3, 2022 at 7:18 am
The Cops didn’t think the Case could get up, not that that it was without merit.
As it turned out, they were wrong.
But for a conniving Juror, it woulda got up.

Richard Cranium

You were asked yesterday for some actual evidence to support this claim.

Put up or shut up (preferably the latter).

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 8:59 am

Who is Bruce Lehrmann?
Well, we can assume that he’s incredibly well connected, since he walked into a job in the Attorney Generals office in Canberra straight out of High School in Brisbane.
Plus he’s a U.S. citizen.
How does that happen, when a Degree has been a requirement for decades now?
Then he shifts to unknown Senator Linda Reynolds Office, 6 months later she’s in Cabinet.
Why didn’t Christian Porter keep Lehrmann on after Brandis resigned?
Janet Albrechtsen and her mates don’t seem very interested in all this.
Probably because Murdoch told them not to be.

JC
JC
December 3, 2022 9:00 am

Gez

I had a pal who had a similar thing happen to him. He married a complete loon and they split. She then accused him of raping her in a park in the Hamptons (US). The local DA believed her accusation and even though there was evidence he was in a car traveling in CT around the time – making it impossible to be in Long Island- they still arrested him. It went to court, but was thrown out on something called summary judgement (pretrial). The DA went all the way because s/he didn’t want to be seen not prosecuting sex crimes thereby imperiling the next election.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 3, 2022 9:02 am

if you’d read Albrechtsen’s whitewash carefully, you’d know that the Cops accepted Intercourse had occurred, they just weren’t confident that a Jury would accept that Consent hadn’t been obtained.

Richard Cranium reads between the lines to see what he wants to see.

Dick Head!

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 9:04 am

You were asked yesterday for some actual evidence to support this claim.
Okay.
The juror who accidentally on purpose left some material in his locker to be found by Court Staff and the Trial aborted, was he pro Guilty opr pro Not Guilty?
What do you think [assuming that you can think]?

JC
JC
December 3, 2022 9:05 am

Eddles

He’s a spook. Without a doubt. CIA?

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 3, 2022 9:06 am

In the end, there was no forensic evidence of a rape. There was no objective evidence that sex happened, consensual or otherwise.

These are the words that Dick Head seems to think indicate that the police “accepted Intercourse had occurred”.

Christine
Christine
December 3, 2022 9:08 am

Miltonf’s comment
It’s disheartening but not surprising that Higgins was successful in getting that position; considered suitable by other unsuitables. All the low types in charge of our country.

Clearly, she was a young woman looking at all possibilites. I can’t accept the mental health claim, in her case.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 3, 2022 9:09 am

Dick Head

Apart from the 11 Jurors who were solid for a Guilty verdict …

Your evidence for this assertion is?

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 3, 2022 9:10 am

2dogs at 2:18

This is a damning statement about magistrate Robert Cook. Such a case should never pass committal proceedings.

Damn right. The end result is Victoriastan. The justice system and separation of powers is the foundation of Western Democracy and they play with it at their peril. The police force can be fixed (if wanted) over years, trust in the courts takes much longer.

Roger
Roger
December 3, 2022 9:13 am

ZELENSKY BANS THE ORTHODOX CHURCH IN UKRAINE

It would seem he’s ordered an investigation into the Moscow linked Orthodox Church in Ukraine, looking for any evidence of collaboration.

There’s a large backstory here that I’ve gone into before. There are two major Orthodox church bodies in Ukraine, one linked to Mocow, the other independent and recognised by the Ecumenical Patriarch, who has, since Cold War days, been under the influence of US foreign intelligence.

The creation of the latter church caused a schism in world Orthodoxy.

bespoke
bespoke
December 3, 2022 9:13 am

People with mental health problems can go a very long way down the tunnel taking others with them until the inevitable crash.

Good to see MAFS hasn’t totally rotted your brain, Gez.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 9:14 am

Well, obviously he was a Sleeper, who for is the question.
His entry point was Brandis, a guy who became a Senator despite having demonstrated no particular abilities at anything, outside of being a treacherous arsehole.
Remember
Everyone has the Right to be a bigot
then Abbott squibbed on repealing S 18[c]?
So, the question becomes
Who is Brandis?

Indolent
Indolent
December 3, 2022 9:17 am
Boambee John
Boambee John
December 3, 2022 9:18 am

Ed Casesays:
December 3, 2022 at 9:04 am
You were asked yesterday for some actual evidence to support this claim.
Okay.
The juror who accidentally on purpose left some material in his locker to be found by Court Staff and the Trial aborted, was he pro Guilty opr pro Not Guilty?
What do you think [assuming that you can think]?

You have clearly decided that the juror was pro-Not Guilty, but what is your evidence for this decision? I keep asking for evidence, you keep spewing out the collected thoughts of Dick Head. This suggests that you are unable to think.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 9:20 am

Why would you bring material relating to the Case into the Jury Room, knowing that discovery would cause the Trial to be aborted, if you were voting for Guilty?
So, it was 11/1 for Guilty and that guy blew it up.
I wonder where he is now?
Not within a few thousand miles of Canberra, that’s for sure.

Indolent
Indolent
December 3, 2022 9:22 am
Miltonf
Miltonf
December 3, 2022 9:27 am

Yes anyone with half a brain can see it’s not possible for all motorists to switch to EVs. Even if they weren’t wrecking the electricity industry, there will never be enough power to charge all those vehicles. Not to mention the chemicals required for battery manufacturing. Bogans shouldn’t have nice things!

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 3, 2022 9:27 am

Ed Casesays:
December 3, 2022 at 9:14 am
Well, obviously he was a Sleeper, who for is the question.

Richard Cranium is starting to remind me of those raving leftards (BIRM) who used to appear everywhere in the late 1970s/early 1980s, babbling on about how the “eeeeviillll CIA” had overthrown the Great God Gough in a nasty Coop Day Tat.

Just as unhinged, and just as lacking in any actual evidence to support their raving.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 3, 2022 9:29 am

Richard Cranium

a guy who became a Senator despite having demonstrated no particular abilities at anything, outside of being a treacherous arsehole.

It might have escaped the notice of your tiny head contents, but these are the normal selection criteria for a senator.

Indolent
Indolent
December 3, 2022 9:29 am

I’m not sure whether this item from late November has been posted yet, but it does explain the clotting process.

What is Causing the Blood Clots from “Died Suddenly?”

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 3, 2022 9:30 am

Ed Casesays:
December 3, 2022 at 9:20 am
Why would you bring material relating to the Case into the Jury Room, knowing that discovery would cause the Trial to be aborted, if you were voting for Guilty?

This is more unsupported assertion, not actual evidence.

Dick Head.

Gabor
Gabor
December 3, 2022 9:31 am

Ed Case says:
December 3, 2022 at 9:20 am

Why would you bring material relating to the Case into the Jury Room, knowing that discovery would cause the Trial to be aborted, if you were voting for Guilty?
So, it was 11/1 for Guilty and that guy blew it up.
I wonder where he is now?
Not within a few thousand miles of Canberra, that’s for sure.

You make less sense than usual, if that’s possible.
How can you tell if he was pro or against?
May I respectfully ask you to piss off for a few hours at least?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 3, 2022 9:31 am

callisays:
December 3, 2022 at 8:19 am
She was located by police walking in the rain and taken to the Canberra hospital before she spent five days at a Canberra mental health clinic.”

Yet after the jury was compromised and dismissed she was trotted out to do a statement on the courthouse steps. In spite of a new trial being scheduled and an instruction not to speak about the case.

We appear to have two Higginses here.

#1 – too sick to attend court
#2 – well enough to front the cameras

Not buying any of it. It’s off.

calli,

I am totally confused we – have Daily Mail

EXCLUSIVE: How Brittany Higgins skipped town during the trial of Bruce Lehrmann for a beach getaway – and the behind-the-scenes moments from the trial we couldn’t tell you about until now

. The second trial of Brittany Higgins’ accused rapist has now been abandoned
. Juror misconduct saw the trial spectacularly thrown out of court in October
. Brittany Higgins left Canberra for Port Macquarie after finishing her evidence

&

The day Brittany disappeared: Ex-political staffer was found wandering alone in the rain by police and was hospitalised on mental health grounds after she was reported missing during first trial

. Ms Higgins spent five days in hospital for her mental health during the rape trial
. She was found walking the streets alone in the rain in Canberra on October 10
. She received treatment in mental health clinic and was unable to give evidence
. The second trial of Brittany Higgins’ accused rapist has now been abandoned
. The charge was dropped over fears ‘ongoing trauma’ posed a risk to Ms Higgins
. Juror misconduct saw the trial spectacularly thrown out of court in October
. Brittany Higgins left Canberra for Port Macquarie after finishing her evidence

Have a look at photos of her with boyfriend in both articles – does this look like a mental health person?

Indolent
Indolent
December 3, 2022 9:32 am
Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 3, 2022 9:33 am

Tea is more dangerous than beer. Please avoid drinking tea. I discovered this last night. I had 14 beers till 3am at the pub while my wife was just drinking tea at home. You should have seen how violent and angry she was when i got home. I was peaceful, silent and headed to bed as she shouted at me, all night and into the next morning. Please ladies, if you can’t handle your tea, don’t drink it…

I’m thinking about asking my ex-wife to re-marry me. But I’m worried she will think I’m just after her for my money.

A little boy was sitting on the footpath with a bottle of Turpentine. He was shaking it up and watching all the bubbles. A Priest came along and asked the little boy what he had. The little boy said “This is the most powerful liquid in the world; it’s called Turpentine”. The Priest said “No, the most powerful liquid in the world is Holy Water. If you rub it on a pregnant woman’s belly, she’ll pass a healthy baby”. The little boy replied “If you rub turpentine on a cat’s arse, he’ll pass a Harley Davidson!”

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
December 3, 2022 9:33 am

A New York City mother-of-three who plowed her BMW into a group of BLM protesters in 2020 has yet again refused a plea deal in favor of a jury trial.

Kathleen Casillo, 54, appeared in Manhattan Criminal Court on Tuesday nearly two years after she was accused of driving into pedestrians during the protest at the Manhattan intersection of 39th Street and Third Avenue on December 11, 2020.

Casillo could face seven years in prison after turning down the deal which involved six hours of community service and a one-year license suspension.

My side of the story was we were attacked by people who were going to break my daughter’s window and pull her out of the car, so I feared [for] my life,’ Casillo, whose husband works as a car mechanic, told DailyMail.com last year.

Casillo said she turned down the plea deal in December because she did not do anything wrong, saying: ‘I’m going to court to clear my name because I’m not guilty.’

‘I feel sick,’ she continued, noting: ‘I never intended on hurting anyone. I just feared for my daughter’s life more than anybody. I thought they were going to pull her out of the car.

JC
JC
December 3, 2022 9:35 am

Have a look at photos of her with boyfriend in both articles – does this look like a mental health person?

I’ll tell you what though, the boyfriend and Bruce L look like they were twins separated at birth. It’s bizarre.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
December 3, 2022 9:39 am

Head Injury reminds of the Illinois Nazi standing on the bridge in Blues Brothers.

bons
bons
December 3, 2022 9:40 am

Can those who understand these things explain why a disco chick from a frozen hell located at the furthest possible distance from Oz deserts is here on a state visit.
I was about to comment that even our political systems are completely at odds. But of course, since the coup, they are now identical.
Obviously she is here to advise on how to make a complete joke of the remaining tatters of our democracy.
If this visit results in Wong prancing in a stretch bum hugger mini, or Albanese in an open to the waist floral shirt, I’m off to Goroka.

JC
JC
December 3, 2022 9:40 am

Hot damn. You go girl.

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
What really happened with the Hunter Biden story suppression by Twitter will be published on Twitter at 5pm ET!

and

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
We’re double-checking some facts, so probably start live tweeting in about 40 mins

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1598778884639653891

I reckon it will be around 10 am Oz time.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 3, 2022 9:41 am

Mental health is tricky as is dealing with people who are genuinely mentally ill. After my stroke I got put on a locked ward for some reason at the rehabilitation hospital. I was still very sick and dependant on the nurse call bell which was tied to the bed rails. Without it I was literally reduced to crying for help, which was tough as my voice is very weak and I was unable to speak at all for weeks. One night the call bell fell on the floor and I was completely helpless. I managed to call out and one guy who was up and walking the ward at night came over. I tried to tell him the situation and had absolutely no idea whether any of it had gone in. He appeared to get it but you couldn’t be sure. He left and I was left lying there till someone else came along.

Indolent
Indolent
December 3, 2022 9:41 am
Roger
Roger
December 3, 2022 9:43 am

Have a look at photos of her with boyfriend in both articles – does this look like a mental health person?

I don’t know…the eyes suggest to me heavy medication of some sort; not entirely focused.

There’s a moral tale to be told here, but the villain is not Bruce Lehrmann.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 9:43 am

You’ve gotta ask:
Who is David Sharaz and why did he hook up with Brittany Higgins?
And what are the chances he flicked her 5 minutes after the news came thru that the Retrial was being abandoned?

Roger
Roger
December 3, 2022 9:44 am

Can those who understand these things explain why a disco chick from a frozen hell located at the furthest possible distance from Oz deserts is here on a state visit.

Something to do with Nokia & the NBN.

JC
JC
December 3, 2022 9:45 am

And, and

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
·
1h
Replying to
@elonmusk
This will be awesome ?

He’s just freaking great. He just loves his new toy. He’d make a pretty decent Cat commenter too.

calli
calli
December 3, 2022 9:45 am

Ozzie, I don’t know what a mental health person should look like. Her eyes look tired.

Put in hospital for five days rather than sit in court, off up the coast while the jury deliberates, back for the verdict and the media appearance with a clearly pre-prepared script. All I see is someone who wants to avoid the difficult stuff (i.e. the consequences of the accusation) but is comfortable with the favourable attention. Understandable human nature…except the crime she accused him of is extremely serious and the consequences to the accused are destructive.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 3, 2022 9:48 am

Ed Casesays:
December 3, 2022 at 9:43 am
You’ve gotta ask:
Who is David Sharaz and why did he hook up with Brittany Higgins?

Clearly a Spook, the only question is: CIA, MI-6 or KGB?

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 3, 2022 9:49 am

Rogersays:
December 3, 2022 at 9:44 am
Can those who understand these things explain why a disco chick from a frozen hell located at the furthest possible distance from Oz deserts is here on a state visit.

Something to do with Nokia & the NBN.

And a lot more taxpayer money.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 9:49 am

Higgins dials Sharaz’s number 10 seconds after announcement of retrial being abandoned:
Voice says:
The number you are calling has been disconnected. Please check the number before calling again

JC
JC
December 3, 2022 9:49 am

I’m going with MI-6 with a think coating of KGB, B John.

JC
JC
December 3, 2022 9:50 am

Eddles

A spook, right? Answer!

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 3, 2022 9:51 am

Interesting that much of the mental health issues around the other one, Porter’s accuser, were carefully curated by the Radelaide femo-j’ismist collective until such time until they could no longer damage the narrative. I’m only speculating but I suspect Drumgold knows he cannot put Higgins back in the witness box.

calli
calli
December 3, 2022 9:53 am

Her mother, who gave testimony at the trial and was obviously concerned for her welfare, should have warned her to stay off social media. Perhaps she did. If she was recovering, no phone, no uploads of holiday snaps…nothing. Others in her circle may have egged her on, or it could have been pure self indulgence or narcissism.

What did she/they think would happen? Childish, puerile stuff in the maelstrom of an extremely adult and serious case.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 9:57 am

You’re conflating 2 things that are unconnected.
Labor and probably some in the Liberal Party were gunning for Chriustian Porter.
Lehrmann was an unknown staffer, probably a Spook, there was no Labor Conspiracy to bring him down, it was entirely his own work.

Roger
Roger
December 3, 2022 10:02 am

There’s a moral tale to be told here, but the villain is not Bruce Lehrmann.

Is there an author in Australia brave enough to write it up and risk the ire of the feminist establishment who used Higgins for their own misandrist agenda?

Bettina Arndt? Melinda Tankard Reist?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 3, 2022 10:04 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:
December 3, 2022 at 8:05 am
From The Oz…by Janet Albrechtsen. I suspect Albrechtsen is angry, rightly so.

Too many reasons why DPP should never have prosecuted Bruce Lehrmann
JANET ALBRECHTSEN

The AFP material and the way the case proceeded raise serious questions about the DPP’s judgment. Not merely that Drumgold began this case against strong police advice in the first place but about the fact that even now, in his Friday statement, his aim seemed to be to protect Higgins from further public scrutiny, which invariably includes criticism.

Drumgold’s focus on the bravery of Higgins, when there has been no finding of guilt, is especially troubling. Higgins’s allegation remains just that – an allegation.

Remember, Higgins could have proceeded with this trial minus the media attention. She has been subjected to public scrutiny because she chose to go to the media before she gave police a formal record of interview. She chose to give evidence in court rather than in a remote witness room.

Higgins courted publicity before the trial started, during the trial, and on the day the trial was aborted and since then.

The Australian’s Legal Affairs Contributor Chris Merritt says the case of Bruce Lehrmann and Brittany Higgins… being dropped means it will be “unresolved forever”. ACT Director of Public Prosecutions Shane Drumgold on Friday announced it was “no longer in the public interest” to pursue a prosecution after medical More

Indeed, the DPP should now be much more concerned about the way in which this untested allegation was initially and subsequently publicised, the media circus around it and its impact on whether Lehrmann could receive a fair trial.

If Drumgold is not now looking seriously at contempt charges for those involved, we should ask more probing questions of the DPP’s judgment. If the DPP and courts do not draw a line in the sand to protect against the real possibility for the contamination of the justice system, and of juries, #MeToo media trials will continue to threaten a fair trial.

One would have thought that an impartial prosecutor, mindful of the presumption of innocence, would at least have sought the same solicitude for Lehrmann, who also has suffered enormously throughout this ordeal. Where was Drumgold’s plea for attacks on Lehrmann to be brought to an end?

If a DPP, as an officer of the court, does not defend the presumption of innocence, especially when they choose not to re-prosecute a defendant, how can we expect others, who are not legally trained, to understand that our criminal justice system is the last bulwark against injustices in our society?

The AFP material raises one further serious matter. The AFP diary note mentions “political interference” in this case. While we do not know what that interference was, or from where it came, any political interference in prosecution decisions is fundamentally repugnant to the rule of law. The DPP should either confirm there was none or tell us about it in detail.

Jorge
Jorge
December 3, 2022 10:06 am

The “walking around in the rain” trope is the giveaway

Indeed. Well spotted, calli.

She and Grace Tame are a double act now. This is going to run for years.

They will each have an agent watching the other and arranging appearances at talkfests. No doubt ‘rushed to hospital’ headlines will be arranged.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 10:08 am

Although Labor’s involvement is murky, unsurprisingly.
At some stage Labor’s Senate leadership became aware of what had gone down in Reynolds Office on March 23 2019 and were intending to raise the matter in the Senate.
Kimberley Kitching gave Reynolds a heads up what to expect, Kitching’s career flatlined after that and she later died in mysterious circumstances.
Lotta stuff there that none of the Media seem interested in.

bespoke
bespoke
December 3, 2022 10:08 am

should have warned her to stay off social media.

Excellent advice and mirrors what none partisan volunteer support groups preach. Also do not feed the the MSN it has no value.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 3, 2022 10:10 am

H B Bearsays:
December 3, 2022 at 9:51 am

Interesting that much of the mental health issues around the other one, Porter’s accuser, were carefully curated by the Radelaide femo-j’ismist collective until such time until they could no longer damage the narrative.

I’m only speculating but I suspect Drumgold knows he cannot put Higgins back in the witness box.

Looking at Janet Albrechtsen’s second commentary piece – you could be right!

Too many reasons why DPP should never have prosecuted Bruce Lehrmann.

An AFP executive briefing authored by Detective Superintendent Scott Moller and Detective Inspector Marcus Boorman, and dated June 9, 2021, raised a series of inconsistencies and difficulties with Higgins’s evidence and concluded that their investigation “identified a number of potential evidentiary and psychological issues that may affect any future prosecution”.

The DPP chose to ignore the views and advice of the AFP after its investigation into the allegations by Higgins. As reported by The Weekend Australian on Saturday, police concerns about a prosecution were laid out in detail in Moller’s briefing. This AFP document became a legal tug of war, its contents hidden from the public and deemed irrelevant for the jury. It was not disclosed to the defence; instead it had to be subpoenaed.

These revelations raise serious questions about the administration of justice. Given the AFP advice and the real potential for the zealotry of the #MeToo media to influence members of a jury, why did the DPP choose to prosecute Lehrmann? Was Drumgold influenced by the same forces?

The aborted trial confirmed the serious inconsistencies in Higgins’s evidence.

These included claims about what she did with the dress she wore the night of the alleged rape; about whether she or her boyfriend, David Sharaz, forwarded a dossier about the allegation to journalists before she went to police; inconsistent evidence about bruises to her leg and about the fact she had deleted material from her phone, including texts she sent to a Parliament House security guard the morning after the alleged rape. In the end, there was no forensic evidence of a rape.

There was no objective evidence that sex happened, consensual or otherwise.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 3, 2022 10:11 am

Definitely MI5.
Staging the Britters soapie to cover for a flamer is a typical Box thing.

Roger
Roger
December 3, 2022 10:12 am

She and Grace Tame are a double act now. This is going to run for years.

I suspect Higgins is going to opt for the quiet life, much to her mother’s relief.

Studying something or other at Griffith Uni in Brisbane atm.

Rabz
December 3, 2022 10:12 am

the Cops accepted Intercourse had occurred, they just weren’t confident that a Jury would accept that Consent hadn’t been obtained

Thanks BJ – you beat me to it. Was going to note that Eddles’ observation above is completely bass ackwards.

There was zero evidence that intercourse had occurred and if it had, Hoggins was too paralytic to have given consent.

Anyway, it’s no doubt a good thing that Eddles isn’t a legal beagle.

Rabz
December 3, 2022 10:13 am

blah – the first sentence above is a quote from Eddles upthread.

Roger
Roger
December 3, 2022 10:16 am

Was going to note that Eddles’ observation above is completely bass ackwards.

That’s his standard modus operandi.

Gabor
Gabor
December 3, 2022 10:17 am

Switzerland is considering restricting the charge of electric vehicles during this coming winter, also washing machine water temperature settings to 40 C.

If you think it’s not possible, you don’t know the cheese eaters.
Link is in foreign lingo so no use.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 3, 2022 10:17 am

You get the feeling that some quality investigative journalism around David Sharaz might pay dividends. Don’t hold your breath.

miltonf
miltonf
December 3, 2022 10:19 am

The alpine country — one of the wealthiest in the world — will severely restrict electric vehicles from its roads, according to a Daily Mail report. If the country runs out of power, EVs won’t be allowed out for anything but “essential” travel.-a good example for the earlier discussion.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 3, 2022 10:20 am

blah – the first sentence above is a quote from Eddles upthread.

More care required Rabz. Lest people mistake you for a cretin.

Rabz
December 3, 2022 10:25 am

some quality investigative journalism

Bear, to put it bluntly, there has been a dearth of quality investigative j’ism across the entirety of the seemingly interminable Hoggins screechfest.

Anyway, hopefully the dogs have barked and the circus has left town.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 10:27 am

Yeah, you can imagine the text Ol’ Rupe sent to his Australian editor:
I want a Why Oh Why screed from useless Janet in tomorrow’s paper and don’t ever mention David Sharaz again.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 3, 2022 10:27 am

2dogs at 2.18:

This is a damning statement about magistrate Robert Cook. Such a case should never pass committal proceedings.

This is not a defence of Cook, because he should have thrown it out and made the DPP present the matter directly to the higher courts – but he took the path of least resistance. The similarity to the Pell committal is striking – faced with a barrage of half-truths and inconsistencies, the beak chose to let it get sorted out further up the tree.

Bear at 9.10:

Damn right. The end result is Victoriastan. The justice system and separation of powers is the foundation of Western Democracy and they play with it at their peril.

Again, Pell. There is still a level of culpability on the part of the jacks by also taking the path of least resistance and giving it to the DPP, so they can lay the blame there if adverse publicity pops up.

In Mongyang, however, the jacks had no such timidity when they – not the DPP – stopped the Red Shirts and SlugGate investigations in their tracks.

The police force can be fixed (if wanted) over years

The almost-upper levels of police forces depend on sponsorship from one or two ranks further up. The very highest ranks of the coppers depend on sponsorship from government.

You need the sponsors in government to go in order to rip the top cover off the others – which is why, after a change in State governments you will almost always see changes in Commissioners, deputies and assistant commissioners.

That’s just how they roll.

Bill From the Bush
Bill From the Bush
December 3, 2022 10:32 am

Was the defence not preparing to file a motion in camera?
What was that all about and was that the reason for this fake concern about mental health?
A media abetted beat up on the despicably weak libs from the start.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 3, 2022 10:34 am

Once again and for clarity, I do not care one white about who wins in the Ukraine. However – Putin appears to have gone full Andrews, plus he’s thrown a bit of Nadler into the mix (NewsCorp):

Russian President Vladimir Putin suffered a fall at his official Moscow residence and ‘soiled himself’ according to reports as speculation grows over his declining health.

According to an anti-Kremlin Telegram channel with apparent links to Putin’s security team, the Russian leader fell down a set of stairs at his home on Wednesday.

The fall and its aftermath was reported by the Telegram channel ‘General SVR’ which is said to be run by a former Russian spy.

According to the channel, the ailing 70-year-old Putin allegedly fell down five stairs before landing on his coccyx, or tailbone.

His guards immediately rushed to his aid, the New York Post reported, but the impact of the fall caused Putin to “involuntarily defecate” due to “cancer affecting his stomach and bowels” according to the channel.

Even if this is completely untrue, it’s still pretty good.

Rabz
December 3, 2022 10:34 am

The scene: A courtroom in a bizarre parallel universe …

Witness: “I reckon … a dingo humped Brittany.”

Eddles KC, for the prosecution: “That would explain the bruising on her thigh, yer honour.”

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 3, 2022 10:35 am

*one white*

Goodness me. One whit.

I care not a whit.

Gabor
Gabor
December 3, 2022 10:37 am

miltonf says:
December 3, 2022 at 10:19 am

Thanks for that link, Why does my feed only appear in German?

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 3, 2022 10:37 am

Was the defence not preparing to file a motion in camera?
What was that all about and was that the reason for this fake concern about mental health?

Yes and we’ll never know. Plenty going on in the background here. I’m not sure that concerns over mental health are fake, although some of the language used seems overblown.

Struth
December 3, 2022 10:39 am

Good Mourning.

We well note the ones here who are acting very calm and as if they never lost their shit , daring to judge others on their behaviour.
Nearly three years later their own disgusting behaviour, their weaknesses and hysteria are all forgotten.
It never happened so struth has no reason to keep talking about denialism.

Again I give you Rosie as an example, but there are plenty of others.

Completely lost their shit, but, and here’s the thing, they got aggressive and nasty with it.

For example, KD.
On the mere mention that we should ignore the order to abandon honouring this nations war dead, he wet his pants.

Anyone suggesting such a thing was “cloaking themselves in the Anzacs.
Really?
When confronted with just how that illogical conclusion can be reached yesterday, he can’t answer, so he straight out lied.
Again.

Correct. Because that’s what you said. You said the unjabbed were in the boats rowing to the Gallipoli shore, and that the jabbed were waving them goodbye from the ships.

Never said, pure fiction from a sad little man.

I appreciate you may not remember what you write when Mr Dark ‘N’ Stormy pays a visit, but I can guarantee others do. As an example, you also said this:

We are all Anzacs.

He couldn’t find it in a month of Sundays.

And many of the long termers here know it’s complete dribble.
People here know he twists things and bullshits.
It reeks of desperation as he was put on the spot and asked to explain how he could come to such a conclusion 3 years later.
He has the attention span of a knat and over the course of time has morphed different stories together and concluded what he needs to by doing so.

He is one of the worst.
Vicplod public servant, you can’t expect much.

There are a lot of good people on this blog, but there are many that could do with taking a good long hard look at themselves back in 2020 before pontificating about ol’ Struth’s behaviour.

Be honest.
I read through these pages and only now three years later are you no longer scoffing about the WEF…I think KD still is.

Think back…what was your reaction when told about the WEF back in 2020.

What did you say?
Tin foil hat stuff.
Nonsense, conspiracy theories.
They don’t exist.
About the vax being deadly?

etc etc etc

You were told.

You don’t have to believe all that was presented to you, but you wouldn’t do any research.
You aggressively attacked the messenger with pompous arrogance.
Lost to the propaganda you fearfully jabbered on for two years about which jab would better see you survive Covid!
You reported “cases” as if they mattered.
And on and on it went.
Do you honestly not remember, or have you just decided to ensure you don’t?

You’re still that slow on the uptake now, it’s laughable.

Do I argue with Monty about this.
Of course not.
He’s a complete lost cause, but he never prentends to be anything but.

Once upon a time, you were all so up with things.
You could call the left’s moves before they made them.
A little bit of fear porn by communists and that vanished overnight.
Running on emotion you aggressively attacked those that hadn’t and lost your shit.

What was Rosie’s reaction when she was told by the “conspiracy theorists” to calm down, the Italian and New York, London “pandemics” were complete bullshit?

If there is one thing I am disgusted about more than anything Matrix, is the complete lack of shame and a willingness to act as though they never were pathetic and aggressive with it.
Fear.
Self preservation and human weakness and the resultant hysteria never showed it’s ugly head here.

Like fuck it didn’t.
And now it never happened, and struth is boring and repetative for talking about this subject.
Until you admit what you did, how you behaved, ….you are capable of doing it again.
That’s the point.

If you can deny your own behaviour back then, you can deny it in the future.
Dangerous.

local oaf
December 3, 2022 10:39 am

Time for the AFP to interview Scomo and Albo.

They apologised to Britnah for what “happened” to her, maybe they have some evidence that no-one else has?

m0nty
m0nty
December 3, 2022 10:44 am

Isabelle Mullen @ijmullen
Until now we haven’t been able to report that Bruce Lehrmann was accused of sexually assaulting and/ or harassing “a number of other women,” after Brittany Higgins went public in 2021. Chief Justice Lucy McCallum has since lifted the suppression order.

JMH
JMH
December 3, 2022 10:44 am

Any Cats still running Windows 7 and 8.1? If so – and this includes Brave users, what’s your recommendation? I still don’t want to upgrade to Win 10.

Google will release the final version of Chrome for Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 sometime next year. Chrome 110, which is tentatively scheduled to be released on February 7th, 2023, will be the last version that supports the two older Microsoft operating systems, according to a Google support page (via Android Police).

This could be a bigger deal than you might think. Despite Windows 7 first being released in 2009 and Microsoft officially ending support for it in 2020, data suggests that the operating system is still running on a whole lot of devices: as recently as last year, that number was estimated to be at least 100 million PCs. That means a lot of people could soon be both an unsupported operating system and an unsupported web browser, which could be a significant security risk.

Chrome will still work after version 110, but it won’t get any future updates on Windows 7 or Windows 8.1, according to the support page. So if you’re still on a system running one of those older operating systems, we strongly suggest upgrading as soon as you can. That way, you’ll be able to receive security updates for your operating system and take advantage of the latest Chrome features and security improvements as well.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/24/23421716/google-chrome-windows-7-8-1-end-support

Gabor
Gabor
December 3, 2022 10:44 am

Oh FFS would someone call out the firetrucks, already?

How long are we going to put up with this insanity?

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 3, 2022 10:44 am

It needs to be remembered that someone under investigation (by the CCC in Victoriastan I think) had already committed suicide, possibly along with the sandshoe woman in NSW with ASIC. People under extreme pressure do extreme things. This is not really an argument for not letting processes (particularly those dealing with wrongdoing) to take their course, only the need for care.

bespoke
bespoke
December 3, 2022 10:45 am

Stop sooking!, ruth.

calli
calli
December 3, 2022 10:46 am

Less a circus and more a panto. A really bad one.

You have Plibbers LARPing as seamstress, taking up BH’s trousers, Kitching warning Reynolds that there was “trooble at t’mill” and the Mean Girls were out to get her. Reynolds disappearing on “mental health” grounds and throwing Kitching to the wolves. Not to be outdone, the accused is also in a mental health facility.

Then Morrison weighs in…under privilege. Meanwhile the Mosman hausfrau pops up to strut her stuff, along with a bevy of hand-patting weirdos and political movers and shakers.

We have the white dresses, the marching up and down the square, the faux outrageous outrage and huffing and puffing. The endless commentary, magazine shoots, front pages and the grande finale – the court case that ends in a dismissed jury due to mysteriously appearing papers.

And still there’s more. Instagram holiday snaps, police notes suddenly made public, more speculation.

Meanwhile…a government is removed and another installed. One that is intent on IR “reforms” that will take us back to the 80’s and a “net zero” policy that they have every intention of enforcing, not just paying lip service to the braying urgers.

While the Higgins panto is yet to run its course, the Devil has popped up through the trapdoor in the stage. And he means business.

Roger
Roger
December 3, 2022 10:51 am

Such things are suppressed for good reason, monty…

They have no bearing on the case being tried.

And they remain unproven allegations.

Have any charges been laid?

bespoke
bespoke
December 3, 2022 10:51 am

JMH upgrad to 10 or 11 if you can. It is more secure.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 3, 2022 10:53 am

mUnty, given you self-confessed problems with Econs 101, you might be well advised to sit out legal niceties. Especially if you are relying on some j’ismist’s Twitter.

m0nty
m0nty
December 3, 2022 10:58 am

Matt Taibbi has started tweeting out the “Twitter Files”.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 10:58 am

Such things are suppressed for good reason, monty…
Yeah.
He might as well of pled Guilty first up if a Jury had known that he had form.

They have no bearing on the case being tried.
He’d done it before …


Have any charges been laid?
Have any prospective complainants been paid off to keep mum?

Gabor
Gabor
December 3, 2022 10:58 am

JMH says:
December 3, 2022 at 10:44 am

Any Cats still running Windows 7 and 8.1? If so – and this includes Brave users, what’s your recommendation? I still don’t want to upgrade to Win 10.

Win 7 is great, don’t go win 8 of any version.
Win 10 is fine as far as I’m concerned running it on one of my PC as the MB is not able to handle Win 11
Problem is updates but if you have a virus protection like Malware Bytes or similar I see no problems.

But I’m no IT guru, I can only say what works for me, I’d love to go back to Win Xp but it’s too late.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 3, 2022 10:59 am

Propensity evidence presents a number of difficulties to the legal system. Hence the problems getting it lead. All of which would probably be lost on your average (and former) j’ismist.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 3, 2022 11:00 am

So, he’s not suing now over damage to his reputation?

m0nty
m0nty
December 3, 2022 11:01 am

Of course any prior allegations should have been suppressed. But they don’t need to be now.

He’s obviously a bog standard Young Liberal.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 3, 2022 11:06 am

He’s obviously a bog standard Young Liberal.

You obviously don’t get to many Young Labor camps. Maybe a Senior Labor figure could tell you some old stories.

JMH
JMH
December 3, 2022 11:06 am

Gabor @ 10.58 am

Win 7 is great, don’t go win 8 of any version.
Win 10 is fine as far as I’m concerned running it on one of my PC as the MB is not able to handle Win 11
Problem is updates but if you have a virus protection like Malware Bytes or similar I see no problems.

But I’m no IT guru, I can only say what works for me, I’d love to go back to Win Xp but it’s too late.

Thanks Gabor. Have been using Malwarebytes for many, many years. I just might ride it through – until I strike a problem should one arise, then I guess it’s Win 10!

JMH
JMH
December 3, 2022 11:07 am

I should have mentioned I’m on Win 7.

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