Open Thread – Weekend 10 Dec 2022


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MatrixTransform
December 11, 2022 6:43 pm

… nope

Johnny Rotten
December 11, 2022 6:44 pm

Good old Tucker. Stick it up them.

https://youtu.be/E_fPyew8WiQ

miltonf
miltonf
December 11, 2022 6:44 pm

A full-blown “major war” between Russia and the West could possibly break out over Ukraine, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg warned on Friday.-this deadshit seemsto be a germalist turned polimuppet. seems to want a war. What a turd.

Rabz
December 11, 2022 6:44 pm

I find it incredible that in Australia a 43 year old earning a decent wicket may not afford a home

“Socialism!”
“Da Science!”

bespoke
bespoke
December 11, 2022 6:46 pm

Woke city chick’s do not represent the youth.

MatrixTransform
December 11, 2022 6:50 pm

Peak twee

*chuckles

Rabz
December 11, 2022 6:50 pm
calli
calli
December 11, 2022 6:51 pm

Sky News and 2GB host Chris Smith is suspended over allegations he acted ‘inappropriately’ around female staff at Christmas party.

Again. The guy has form. What the “inappropriate” behaviour was is anyone’s guess. Probably being a dumb male alcoholically enhanced.

As for myself…no lampshades on the head and definitely wearing Bridget Jones granny undies. 😀

The “hangover” is more from trying to field multiple conversations in a diplomatic and kindly manner when I really wanted to either clock the speaker on the head with a cluebat or retire to the Ladies for the duration. But there were some delightful ones – especially the young mum of four who loves her littlies and motherhood regardless of the hard work.

Johnny Rotten
December 11, 2022 6:52 pm

Ed Casesays:
December 11, 2022 at 6:34 pm
I wish someone would flush monty down the toilet, …

Steady on.
Scrolling Franger & SpongeBob’s wheezing inanities is tiring too, but toilets are useful and plumbers are dear.
On the other hand, a Long Drop toilet …

Turds like you should be lowered by rope into the toilet bowl otherwise your ‘Ed’ will crack the bowl…………………………..

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 11, 2022 6:57 pm

Monty, for the record I write real patents as in actual innovations. Been my calling in this life. A privilege which I have no words to describe. I am sad that science has so declined because there is so much out there to be discovered and developed. Yet stuff like the climate rubbish has distracted scientists from doing anything real. The science news is very sad lately, so much is rubbish of no practical use and no resemblance to reality. My profession is dying.

calli
calli
December 11, 2022 6:58 pm

Rabz, I’ve been “hopelessly in love” for nearly 50 years. There is no cure, and…

You have no excuse. 😀

Cassie of Sydney
December 11, 2022 6:58 pm

“Sky News and 2GB host Chris Smith is suspended over allegations he acted ‘inappropriately’ around female staff at Christmas party.”

Not the first time he’s faced such an allegation. Apparently his wife left him last week. He’s probably devastated, and got inebriated.

Sometimes I wish I didn’t have such a long memory however I remember how Smith, after Pell was sentenced back in 2019, joined in the lynching, repeatedly calling Pell a pedophile on Sky prime time. It left a bad taste in my mouth.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 11, 2022 7:04 pm

Pauline Hanson’s wacky South Park-style cartoon series, Please Explain – which has lampooned everyone from Greta Thunberg to Malcolm Turnbull – will make a shock return next year.

And Diary can reveal that Lisa Wilkinson and Peter FitzSimons are about to become characters.

The satirical series – featuring Hanson as the teacher of an unruly class of politicians and other wannabe influencers in Canberra – was originally launched as a six-episode series ahead of the May federal election to boost the One Nation leader’s campaign.

But Please Explain became an unlikely social media hit, regularly luring a combined one million viewers a week across YouTube, Facebook, Instagram and Twitter in Australia and overseas.

And there is plenty for the new series – produced by Melbourne animation house Stepmates – to play with.

Diary hears the smartly produced two-minute cartoons will take full advantage of the radically altered cast of politicians in Canberra.

A new breed of progressives have invaded Canberra since the election, including Teals, Greens and Labor MPs, along with left-leaning media types.

Diary hears that mocking the more woke side of politics will be a key plank of the series.

The most prominent new cast members be Wilkinson, her equally high-profile husband FitzSimons (apparently featuring as a pirate with his trademark red bandana) and Magda Szubanski.

The new member for Kooyong, Monique Ryan, will also feature prominently, still tormenting her predecessor Josh Frydenberg, while the alleged champagne-socialist teal traits are also likely to cop the Please Explain treatment.

And yes, the Greens will be back in a big way. But while Bandt is set to figure prominently, he is likely to be surpassed in airtime by Greens deputy Senate leader Lidia Thorpe, who we’re told will repeatedly feature depicted with some of her bikie mates.

Meanwhile, from Labor, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese will now be a lead characters, while Qantas boss Alan Joyce and Twitter supremo Elon Musk will star in dedicated episodes, we hear.

The new series is expected to cost about $500,000 to produce. To raise money for its latest run, Hanson is producing 20,000 bottles of a new limited-edition Please Explain Queensland Rum, featuring on its label everyone from Ryan pursuing Frydenberg, Bob Katter in his broad-brimmed hat, and even Scott Morrison as the latest ‘ghost’ of PMs past.

If the 20,000 bottles can be sold by February, the cartoon’s new run will start early in the parliamentary year. Could be epic.

Oz

John H.
John H.
December 11, 2022 7:04 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
December 11, 2022 at 6:57 pm
Monty, for the record I write real patents as in actual innovations. Been my calling in this life. A privilege which I have no words to describe. I am sad that science has so declined because there is so much out there to be discovered and developed. Yet stuff like the climate rubbish has distracted scientists from doing anything real. The science news is very sad lately, so much is rubbish of no practical use and no resemblance to reality. My profession is dying.

Bruce, too many being busy rather than creative? Too many studies for the sake of publication rather than exploration? Too much trend driven research?

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 11, 2022 7:07 pm

Read a new theory on why Biden swapped a Likely Spook for Brittney Griner.
The Russians threatened to out Griner as a Tranny and Biden’s handlers couldn’t risk the Narrative collapsing [and having to return 4 Gold Medals].

calli
calli
December 11, 2022 7:10 pm

I can’t work out how fragile the You Go Girrrrrrl Wymynses are when faced with a dopey inebriated touchy feely male.

Quick, let’s report him to the Head Prefect! He’s soooooo horrid!

It’s as if they never left High School.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 11, 2022 7:11 pm

Just beautiful simplicity

Vale Ms McVie.

I have always preferred her vocals to Stevie Nicks’s, although she’s fine. My favourite is the very pithy single Tusk, although that might be because I like gridiron.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 11, 2022 7:13 pm

I can’t work out how fragile the You Go Girrrrrrl Wymynses are when faced with a dopey inebriated touchy feely male.

Mme Zulu advises that, back in the day, the drill was a ringing slap to the face, followed by a loud “Keep your hands to yourself!”

Bluey
Bluey
December 11, 2022 7:20 pm

callisays:
December 11, 2022 at 7:10 pm
I can’t work out how fragile the You Go Girrrrrrl Wymynses are when faced with a dopey inebriated touchy feely male.

Quick, let’s report him to the Head Prefect! He’s soooooo horrid!

It’s as if they never left High School.

Is there any reason these days as a male, to have anything beyond the minimum possible contact with women in the workplace? So many downsides, and I honestly can’t think of any upsides.

calli
calli
December 11, 2022 7:20 pm

Yes, Zulu. And the next generation is a disdainful, “Seriously?”. Followed by walking away.

Weaklings squeal. Tomorrow the idiotic guy will be sober, but they will still be weaklings.*

*Paraphrasing Winston Churchill

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 11, 2022 7:29 pm

Union heavyweight ‘headbutts rival’ at Christmas party
By Cameron Houston and Paul Sakkal
December 11, 2022 — 4.57pm

Plumbers’ union secretary and ALP right-wing powerbroker Earl Setches has been accused of repeatedly headbutting a union rival at a Christmas party last Thursday, as a factional feud erupts in Victorian Labor.

Setches, who is one of Bill Shorten’s closest political allies, allegedly charged at Mem Suleyman, the assistant secretary of the Transport Workers’ Union’s Victorian branch, before headbutting him at least two times.

The Age spoke to several sources who either witnessed the alleged assault or are TWU members and did not want to be identified. They confirmed the version of events and said Suleyman sustained facial injuries and is considering making a complaint to police. Blood was not drawn in the incident.

One witness said Suleyman called Setches a “coward” and a “thug” after the attack.

Suleyman also made aggressive remarks in the exchange, sources said.

Setches was reportedly immediately escorted from the party, which was held in a courtyard at the Victorian Trades Hall Council in Carlton and hosted by Maurice Blackburn, a law firm that regularly represents trade unions. The annual event was attended by up to 100 of the state’s most influential union figures, dozens of lawyers and at least two ministers from the Andrews government.

It is unknown what prompted the altercation, and Setches and Suleyman both declined to comment when contacted on Sunday.

Maurice Blackburn also declined to comment

Rabz
December 11, 2022 7:32 pm

Thanks, calli – I haven’t been hopelessly in love for many, many moons.

Hits you like the veritable cluebat.

Especially after three years of unrelenting shite.

bespoke
bespoke
December 11, 2022 7:36 pm

Just don’t start buying her flowers or jewellery, Rabz.

Makka
Makka
December 11, 2022 7:36 pm

Rasmussen poll shows the COVID vaccines are not safe

Polls show that numpties will still vote in brain dead leftards no matter what polls on covid vaccines show.

C.L.
C.L.
December 11, 2022 7:38 pm

Again. The guy has form. What the “inappropriate” behaviour was is anyone’s guess. Probably being a dumb male alcoholically enhanced.

Indeed.

It is not the first time Smith has been suspended following allegations of inappropriate behaviour.

He was suspended from the Macquarie Radio Network in 2009 following allegations from female colleagues at a 2GB Christmas party.

Smith was accused of exposing himself to several women, trying to kiss a female co-worker and assaulting then-Network 10 weather presenter, Magdalena Roze.

He was also fired as a producer from A Current Affair in the late 1990s after he exposed himself to colleagues at a work party and fondled a senior journalist’s breasts on a separate occasion.

Both incidents were initially laughed off by Smith’s bosses but the women complained to the Nine Network and Smith was sacked.

Both women left the show and were rumoured to have secured big payouts.

C.L.
C.L.
December 11, 2022 7:40 pm

Sometimes I wish I didn’t have such a long memory however I remember how Smith, after Pell was sentenced back in 2019, joined in the lynching, repeatedly calling Pell a pedophile on Sky prime time. It left a bad taste in my mouth.

He wasn’t the only one: ‘Pell is exactly where he should be tonight, and that is in jail’: Paul Murray.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 11, 2022 7:41 pm

m0nty=fa

Put aside the clear evidence of collusion between senior Twatter staff and government officials from Homeland Security, the FBI and the DNI?CIA, which certainly compromised (at the least) the First Amendment.

Let’s instead look at Yoel Roth, who had a major role in the political issue, but also a wider role in Twatter. Are you concerned that such a man, whose PhD thesis included discussion of ways to allow underage kids access to adult sites like grindr, had such a senior role there? He seems to have been, at best, dilatory in removing child exploitation material from Twatter. Might it have been better had he shown less interest in deleting photos of Hunter Bunter’s “nine inch hog” and more interest in removing material about much smaller “hogs”?

It is beginning to become clear that the pre-Musk Twatter might have lacked both political and moral standing.

Makka
Makka
December 11, 2022 7:41 pm

Bruce, too many being busy rather than creative? Too many studies for the sake of publication rather than exploration? Too much trend driven research?

Too many green grants and green sinecure funding.

Johnny Rotten
December 11, 2022 7:42 pm

The Jabs and the side effects……………………………….

https://youtu.be/ljrMPvk4mjo

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 11, 2022 7:44 pm

Cassie

I remember how Smith, after Pell was sentenced back in 2019, joined in the lynching, repeatedly calling Pell a pedophile on Sky prime time. It left a bad taste in my mouth.

Hubris followed by Nemesis.

calli
calli
December 11, 2022 7:45 pm

Bespoke, you are a cynic. But smart advice for the unwary.

Exhibit A –

Above all things else guard your heart, for it is the wellspring of life – King Solomon

Exhibit B –

“To love at all is to be vulnerable. Love anything and your heart will be wrung and possibly broken. If you want to make sure of keeping it intact you must give it to no one, not even an animal. Wrap it carefully round with hobbies and little luxuries; avoid all entanglements. Lock it up safe in the casket or coffin of your selfishness. But in that casket, safe, dark, motionless, airless, it will change. It will not be broken; it will become unbreakable, impenetrable, irredeemable. To love is to be vulnerable.”
? C.S. Lewis, The Four Loves

In these things we all stand on the razor’s edge.

Rabz
December 11, 2022 7:46 pm

don’t start buying her flowers or jewellery

Nein. A new silk scarf and some flash fifties sunnies for the South Coast drive.

Robert Sewell
December 11, 2022 7:47 pm

From Gateway Pundit:

Employees Refused “to Take Action on Child Exploitation for Years”

The narrative is falling apart as Musk cleans house.
I hope he’s covering himself by forwarding everything on to the Feds.

Elon Musk to Sue Insubordinate Employees Who Break Their NDA and Leak Confidential Twitter Information to the Liberal Press

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/breaking-elon-musk-sue-insubordinate-employees-break-nda-leak-confidential-twitter-information-liberal-press/

Johnny Rotten
December 11, 2022 7:50 pm

He wasn’t the only one: ‘Pell is exactly where he should be tonight, and that is in jail’: Paul Murray.

And how many Judges said that he is innocent? All of them in that Court. Wankers and Bigots NIL Case closed.

Cassie of Sydney
December 11, 2022 7:50 pm

“Hubris followed by Nemesis.”

Quite so. Given Smith’s tawdry history he should have kept his mouth closed re. Pell, but just as he has a history of struggling to keep his zipper closed, he struggles to keep his mouth closed about certain things.

calli
calli
December 11, 2022 7:51 pm

My comments are clearly being influenced by Roger Moore being charming (and deadly) to females in Moonraker.

Ugly and uncharming men – forget it.

Rabz
December 11, 2022 7:52 pm

“The Pell is exactly where he should be tonight and that is in Gaol”

Fatso Murray.

Could that male blandwhale be gifted with even less credibility if he tried?

The man cave, models of really uglee Ozzie super cars and his undying mateship with Goose Morristeen.

Yeah, no, Rupe.

Cassie of Sydney
December 11, 2022 7:53 pm

“He wasn’t the only one: ‘Pell is exactly where he should be tonight, and that is in jail’: Paul Murray.”

I haven’t forgotten him either C.L. Both Murray and Smith seemed to delight in calling Pell a “pedophile” on prime time television. Neither man expressed any reservation about the verdict, and neither man, after the HC decision, had the decency to stand in front of the cameras and say “we were wrong about George Pell”.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 11, 2022 7:54 pm

the left

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 11, 2022 7:55 pm

Yay! I just struck out the left.

Thanks, Bruce of Newc.

Robert Sewell
December 11, 2022 7:57 pm

Peter Smith:
Let’s just hang back a bit, O.K?
A few days will give us some information on what he’s supposed to have done.
Presumption of Innocence.
(Then we can hang him. 🙂 )

Rabz
December 11, 2022 7:59 pm

Bobbie – it’s Chris Smith and I’ve always thought he was a joke.

m0nty
m0nty
December 11, 2022 8:00 pm

Remember when Musk accused that dude who saved the cave kids of being a rock spider, just because he refused Musk’s idea of a submarine? Yeah, he wasn’t a rock spider either.

The Yoel Roth stuff is extremely weak, and is straight out of the Qanon playbook.

Frank
Frank
December 11, 2022 8:01 pm

It’s pretty off colour to be all paws when it comes to the ladies but exposing yourself is really beyond the pale. They invented clothes for a reason, that reason being middle age.

Frank
Frank
December 11, 2022 8:02 pm

The Yoel Roth stuff is extremely weak, and is straight out of the Qanon playbook.

It is straight out of his PhD thesis.

custard
custard
December 11, 2022 8:03 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 11, 2022 8:03 pm

Daily Mail. No comments allowed.

Chaos in the Outback: Inside the rural town where a gang of out-of-control teens known as ‘6770 boys’ run riot – as locals fear for their lives and don’t dare leave their homes

Halls Creek in WA’s Kimberley region has been overrun with unruly teenagers
Youths have been stealing cars, damaging property and uploading antics online
Police patrols have increased but residents say they’re afraid to go out at night
TikTok videos show youths in stolen cars taunting police and doing burn-out

Jorge
Jorge
December 11, 2022 8:04 pm

WatchingtheHK Cup taken out by a horse piloted by Aussie hoop James McDonald.
Masks everywhere, though removed for presentation ceremony and photo.
Just before that McDonald had ripped off his mask, obviously exasperated, and just stopped himself throwing the damned thing on the ground.
Crowd all masked and in a celebratory mood after years of being shut out of the track.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
December 11, 2022 8:04 pm
Black Ball
Black Ball
December 11, 2022 8:05 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 11, 2022 8:06 pm

With the passing of Jet Black this week, I have Stranglers in my brain that need to be let out. So here’s one of their’s:

Ice Queen – Stranglers (1984)

I’ve had Golden Brown and No Mercy going around in my brain all day. Dunno why.

bespoke
bespoke
December 11, 2022 8:07 pm

calli

I got my wife an early Christmas present. A two seater swing chair so she can read to owe granddaughter in the garden. Something of Intrinsic value last a lot longer and has deeper appreciation then vanity tokens.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 11, 2022 8:07 pm

Nein. A new silk scarf and some flash fifties sunnies for the South Coast drive.

Noice. Very noice. Nothing beats a beaut new scarf.

A Hermes square is popular, but horsey. Also check out Dior, Bulgari, Versace. Ditch Balenciaga.

Just don’t make it a long scarf for summer, bad news in a convertible. The Isadora factor.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 11, 2022 8:08 pm

Halls Creek in WA’s Kimberley region has been overrun with unruly teenagers

It’s clearly down to white supremacy and colonialism.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 11, 2022 8:08 pm

Remember when Musk accused that dude who saved the cave kids of being a rock spider, just because he refused Musk’s idea of a submarine? Yeah, he wasn’t a rock spider either.

Your lot loves to post about pedophilia. And practise it.

Cassie of Sydney
December 11, 2022 8:10 pm

“Yeah, he wasn’t a rock spider either.”

Nor was Cardinal George Pell but I note you’ve never retracted that smear.

calli
calli
December 11, 2022 8:11 pm

That’s a beautiful thing, bespoke.

These Christmas holidays, I’m teaching both my granddaughters to sew. I have projects in mind. They are both keen, bless them.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 11, 2022 8:12 pm

The Yoel Roth stuff is extremely weak

LOL

Christopher Rufo looks at Yoel Roth’s academic publications and concludes ‘dude’s research background is wild.’ (10 Dec)

We know this came up earlier, but Roth has a Ph.D. in communication, and his dissertation took a good look at the gay hook-up app Grindr. We’re cool with Roth being gay, but it’s interesting to see the works he had published before taking over Trust and Safety at Twitter.

Some of his tweets are included, and they’re decidedly not, um, bland.

Crossie
Crossie
December 11, 2022 8:12 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
December 11, 2022 at 5:40 pm
“The vast majority of the electorate is fed up with collectivist crackpottery.”

Rabz, maybe we are but the young, they’re not fed up, they’ve been indoctrinated into a collectivist mindset. As my post on my nightmare lunch with wokey women attests, the young, particularly young women, love collectivism, big government and crackpottery such as “climate change”, “climate change”, “climate change”. Maybe they might think differently as they grow older, but I don’t hold out much hope.

Cassie I have mentioned this before, the climate change preoccupation is geographic and/or class-based. The young women you work with probably come from the eastern or northern suburbs and from upper income families. That preoccupation stops at Parramatta where most of the newcomers live and also where the region of young families starts. These residents have far more pressing problems like mortgages, power bills, shopping price rises and having a second car to ferry the kids around.

I am not despairing that all young people have been brainwashed but that the political parties are only polling the comfortably rich who can afford the climate change nonsense.

John H.
John H.
December 11, 2022 8:14 pm

Makkasays:
December 11, 2022 at 7:41 pm
Bruce, too many being busy rather than creative? Too many studies for the sake of publication rather than exploration? Too much trend driven research?

Too many green grants and green sinecure funding.

Nah, too narrow. The impact is wider than that. I see it in biomedicine with so many published studies being of such poor quality that actually use online surveys. And don’t get me start on food frequency questionnaires! Or the huge amount of money wasted on proposed neurological condition cures. Those therapies for Alz are just plain nonsense. The same is true of Parkinson’s, the only promising treatment for that is the one currently underway involving stem cell implants. Psychology is replete with poor quality studies. In theoretical physics for a time if you weren’t doing string theory you weren’t doing anything. Over the last few decades hundreds of predictions concerning particles have proved to be little more than stabs in the dark but hey it is another publication tick for the authors. If you think it is just about green stuff you haven’t even begun to realise the scope of the problem.

m0nty
m0nty
December 11, 2022 8:14 pm

It is straight out of his PhD thesis.

You didn’t read and/or understand what Roth wrote, did you?

Musk has the thinnest skin in the world.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 11, 2022 8:17 pm

Halls Creek in WA’s Kimberley region has been overrun with unruly teenagers

It’s clearly down to white supremacy and colonialism.

The latest demand is for a juvenile detention center to be built in the Kinberlys – the offenders won’t have to suffer the trauma of being flown to Perth, in handcuffs, and they won’t feel so isolated, as their families will be able to visit them…

Rabz
December 11, 2022 8:17 pm

How did I miss this:

Plumbers’ union secretary and ALP right-wing powerbroker Earl “come up and see me” Setches has been accused of repeatedly headbutting a union rival at a Christmas party

As one does. 🙂

calli
calli
December 11, 2022 8:18 pm

Musk retracted those comments and apologised. All documented.

Crossie
Crossie
December 11, 2022 8:19 pm

C.L. says:
December 11, 2022 at 6:04 pm
Yikes.
Sky News and 2GB host Chris Smith is suspended over allegations he acted ‘inappropriately’ around female staff at Christmas party .

What, again? You would think he would learn after the 2GB debacle some years ago.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 11, 2022 8:19 pm

You didn’t read and/or understand what Roth wrote, did you?

Monty what’s there to misunderstand about “gay bareback porn”?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 11, 2022 8:19 pm

Just checked online for you Rabz, there are lots of very nice scarfs (scarves) that aren’t as pricey as the brands I mentioned, from $50 to $150, not up there in the over $500. Google ‘luxury scarf brands’.
There is a lot of choice and all in good silk too.

m0nty
m0nty
December 11, 2022 8:20 pm

Musk retracted those comments and apologised. All documented.

Do you reckon he will retract and apologise this time too?

Rabz
December 11, 2022 8:20 pm

Dunno why

BoN – two of the original four have now departed this earthly existence. One of my favourite bands of all time.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

“The Yoel Roth stuff is extremely weak, and is straight out of the Qanon playbook Roth’s Phd thesis.

FIFY

m0nty
m0nty
December 11, 2022 8:21 pm

Monty what’s there to misunderstand about “gay bareback porn”?

There is plenty to understand, especially if you have a sense of humour. You are too dumb to grok it.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

oops, Frank: Snap!

Rabz
December 11, 2022 8:22 pm

Thanks, Lizzie. 🙂

calli
calli
December 11, 2022 8:24 pm

I don’t know m0nty. The usual question I ask is, “Is it true?”.

If it isn’t, shame on the accuser.

Frank
Frank
December 11, 2022 8:25 pm

“You didn’t read and/or understand what Roth wrote, did you?”

And you did? But at least we agree it was in his thesis and not some QAnon noise.

Dot
Dot
December 11, 2022 8:25 pm

It’s pretty off colour to be all paws when it comes to the ladies but exposing yourself is really beyond the pale. They invented clothes for a reason, that reason being middle age.

Have you seen what women wear these days?

Glad I’m not a father to daughters these days. Swimsuits are scandalous.

I’ve said it before, but it is worth repeating.

If women can be in your face with their sexuality why is it wrong for a man to do so?

Yes yes I get there are degrees to it.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

“You lot” are too dumb to understand humour.

I think I’ve got the talking point to explain away Roth’s proclivities.

From time to time I have occasion to hold/attend business meetings. In those meetings neither I nor anybody else sit around googling any of the following words: Gay, Bareback, Pron. In fact nobody googles anything. Nor do we joke about those same words or anything of the sort.
We talk, like adults. Coz it’s a … y’know.. .business meeting.

This is but one of the many differences between my circles & those of Roth & the (former) Twitter culture.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

This is something we should all keep in mind should Monty make reference to being involved in a “humorous situation” or a “business meeting

Roger
Roger
December 11, 2022 8:29 pm

‘Pell is exactly where he should be tonight, and that is in jail’: Paul Murray.

Murray is an atheist.

I wonder how that coloured his commentary.

cohenite
December 11, 2022 8:32 pm

Remember when Musk accused that dude who saved the cave kids of being a rock spider, just because he refused Musk’s idea of a submarine? Yeah, he wasn’t a rock spider either.

The Yoel Roth stuff is extremely weak, and is straight out of the Qanon playbook.

Dickless supports the pedo of course. How are the milkman’s kiddies going dickless.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Remember when Musk Monty … accused that dude who saved the cave kidsCardinal George Pell … of being a rock spider, just because he refused Musk’s idea of a submarine? … a few wankers in Victoria said he was. Yeah, … The High Court of Australia unanimously ruled … he wasn’t a rock spider either.

cohenite
December 11, 2022 8:35 pm

There is literally no limit to the scumbaggery of the left. Some student advocates for Abe’s statue to be torn down.

The student.

Frank
Frank
December 11, 2022 8:35 pm

The snippet being quoted from Yoel Roth’s thesis that is doing the rounds.

sexuality; but it’s worth considering how, if at all, the current generation of popular sites
of gay networked sociability might fit into an overall queer social landscape that
increasingly includes individuals under the age of 18. Even with the service’s extensive
content management, Grindr may well be too lewd or too hook-up-oriented to be a safe
and age-appropriate resource for teenagers; but the fact that people under 18 are on these
services already indicates that we can’t readily dismiss these platforms out of hand as loci
for queer youth culture. Rather than merely trying to absolve themselves of legal
responsibility or, worse, trying to drive out teenagers entirely, service providers should
instead focus on crafting safety strategies that can accommodate a wide variety of use
cases for platforms like Grindr – including, possibly, their role in safely connecting
queer young adults.

Monty can help us to understand the inherent nuance.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 11, 2022 8:36 pm

Love anything and your heart will be wrung and possibly broken. If you want to make sure of keeping it intact you must give it to no one, not even an animal.

My unemployed middle-aged son with bi polar issues plus a seriously damaged leg from being beaten up while living on the streets, now living in public housing, unemployed, has given his heart to a huge dog which he shares with the schizophrenic woman living alone who is mother to my grandson via my other son from my first marriage. Last night the son who cares half time for the dog rang me that the schizo woman had ignored the dog’s ear, which had developed a problem. He told me how he had carefully cleaned out the animal’s ear with swabs and disinfectant and put Savlon on it, and wondered if I could help. Who could not? He said the young dog was patient and loving throughout this painful process. The love he has for this dog is better healing for my son than any shrinks he has seen.

Looks like a trip to the vet tomorrow if there is no improvement.

Which reminds me, I am currently bedtime-reading a book I found in Queensland in one of those little exchange cubbies: Noel Fitzpatrick, Becoming The Supervet: Listening to the Animals. No 1 Sunday Times Bestseller. He’s apparently a TV Vet phenomenon, I’ve never seen his show, but his story of his childhood on a farm in Ireland and his self-analytic observations about how life under hard times in a very undemonstrative farming family is quite engaging. I am chosing more books like this to read, easy reading with a personal story, to take my mind off so many other things. It works.

Rabz
December 11, 2022 8:38 pm

If women can be in your face with their sexuality why is it wrong for a man to do so?

Let me guess, Pol – because uglee ol’ dinobores? 😕

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 11, 2022 8:38 pm

Make that – how ‘life and personality unfolds under hard times’

MatrixTransform
December 11, 2022 8:39 pm

repeatedly headbutting a union rival

if it takes more than one
yr not doing it right

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 11, 2022 8:39 pm

blurb says: Listening to the Animals is ultimately a story of love, hope and compassion, and about rejoicing in the bond between humans and animals that makes us the very best we can be.

True enough. He writes quite well too, for a vet.

Frank
Frank
December 11, 2022 8:40 pm

Dot says:
December 11, 2022 at 8:25 pm

It doesn’t matter if young women are scandalous at the beach, it is either a crass mistake or European, but old blokes pulling their bits out in public is always wrong. Young blokes pulling their bits out in public is quite possibly rapey and both should be discouraged in the strongest terms.

Rabz
December 11, 2022 8:41 pm

I wonder how that coloured his commentary

As it did not mine, Rog, because I always knew the charges against Pell were preposterous.

As most of you would know, I don’t have a lot of time for the “church” or the clerisy.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 11, 2022 8:41 pm

BoN – two of the original four have now departed this earthly existence. One of my favourite bands of all time.

Just been watching this one:

Stranglers – Ice Queen – Brighton 26 Mar 2019

Damn near as good as the original single.

Dot
Dot
December 11, 2022 8:41 pm

True enough. He writes quite well too, for a vet.

Yoel Roth is a vet? I thought it was plagiarism of The Thornbirds.

MatrixTransform
December 11, 2022 8:42 pm

You are too dumb to grok it

Heinlein … LoL

mUntu, I don’t think you grok what you think you grok

cohenite
December 11, 2022 8:43 pm

repeatedly headbutting a union rival

if it takes more than one
yr not doing it right

This is how you head-butt. Reacher.

Makka
Makka
December 11, 2022 8:45 pm

Shorter mOron;

“It’s ok if the deviant left come after your kids. That’s the way our lot roll.”

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 11, 2022 8:45 pm

m0ntysays:
December 11, 2022 at 8:00 pm
Remember when Musk accused that dude who saved the cave kids of being a rock spider, just because he refused Musk’s idea of a submarine? Yeah, he wasn’t a rock spider either.

The Yoel Roth stuff is extremely weak, and is straight out of the Qanon playbook.

Qanon contributed to Roth’s PhD thesis? Who would have guessed?

You idiot.

he wasn’t a rock spider either.

Is this an admission that you were wrong, wrong, wrong about Cardinal Pell?

Rabz
December 11, 2022 8:46 pm

Lizzie – James Herriot – “All creatures great and small“. Read the books when I was a teenager. Some of the most beautiful writing I’ve ever read. From laughter to tears in the space of a paragraph.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 11, 2022 8:47 pm

You are too dumb to grok it.

Amusing. I suspect I’ve read more Heinlein than you have.

Perhaps you could address what Mr Roth said, to the world and everyone. On Twitter and all.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 11, 2022 8:49 pm

Do you reckon he will retract and apologise this time too?

Do you retract and apologise for Shannon Brandt? Of course you don’t apologise because he fits your narrative. What a prick of a human you are.

Dot
Dot
December 11, 2022 8:50 pm

but old blokes pulling their bits out in public is always wrong. Young blokes pulling their bits out in public is quite possibly rapey

Huh? Why the distinction?

Also:

Cardboard cutout conservative model 4628 was at a private party, boozy, presumably only adults. (A drunk, older and unfit (bitch tits) [and baldcel] male is um, unlikely to impress…). Okay he might have done other stuff but I am not arguing the err, toss over that stuff.

Surely a public beach is different? (Why are they different? How would a man who did the same be treated?).

Modern swimsuits are deliberately and forcefully provocative. Believe it or not I was shocked when I saw Miranda Kerr first wear one.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 11, 2022 8:52 pm

Lizzie – James Herriot – “All creatures great and small“

Saw the village in Yorkshire, and the surgery – now a museum – where “James Herriot” practiced.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 11, 2022 8:53 pm

Yes yes yes Makka.
“It’s ok if the deviant left come after your kids. That’s the way our lot roll.”
Monty needs the ‘your lot’ thrown back in his fat cakehole.

cohenite
December 11, 2022 8:55 pm

Reading through Lake’s lawsuit this evening. Will write a post on it tomorrow. Needless to say, the signature verification appears to have been a shambles again.

This is the keypoint:

2. The number of illegal votes cast in Arizona’s general election on November 13] 8,202, far exceeds the 17,117 vote margin between Arizona Republican gubematorial , candidate Kari Lake and Democrat gubernatorial candidate Secretary of State Katie 16| Hobbs, certified at the official state canvass on December 5, 2022.

The Complaint has a lot hyperbole and reference to 2020; which is a pity. I would have distilled it down to a much shorter form.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 11, 2022 8:57 pm

m0ntysays:
December 11, 2022 at 8:14 pm
It is straight out of his PhD thesis.

You didn’t read and/or understand what Roth wrote, did you?

Clearly you didn’t understand it.

However, you have not responded to the main point. Do you agree that he seems to have been, at best, dilatory in removing child exploitation material from Twatter. Might it have been better had he shown less interest in deleting photos of Hunter Bunter’s “nine inch hog” and more interest in removing material about much smaller “hogs”?

Address the point, or concede it.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 11, 2022 8:59 pm

callisays:
December 11, 2022 at 8:18 pm
Musk retracted those comments and apologised. All documented.

m0nty=fa has b=neither retracted his comments about Cardinal Pell, nor apologised for them.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 11, 2022 9:00 pm

James Herriot – “All creatures great and small“

I was thinking of Gerald Durrell today. Sort of emulate his stuff, what with the Cafe and all.

Today one of my currawong pairs arrived with their kid, who sat in the jacaranda and said arp? arp? Parents then came down and received mince, then went up and fed kid. Rarely I get this, usually I don’t see the young ones until January or so. It was nice.

Zipster
Zipster
December 11, 2022 9:02 pm

The Yoel Roth stuff is extremely weak, and is straight out of the Qanon playbook.

teenagers used to have playboy, mutley has the Q playbook

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 11, 2022 9:02 pm

m0ntysays:
December 11, 2022 at 8:21 pm
Monty what’s there to misunderstand about “gay bareback porn”?

There is plenty to understand, especially if you have a sense of humour. You are too dumb to grok it.

Enlighten us with the benefit of your expertise in “gay bareback porn”.

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 11, 2022 9:03 pm

BB at 6.40
Just beautiful simplicity

Agree with that, BB. When I heard that Christine McVie died, that was the song that came to mind. My favourite Fleetwood Mac song.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Monty can help us to understand the inherent nuance.

Huh? It’s just a humorous jape.
If it has to be explained to you, then you’re working out of the wrong playbook & are too dumb to grok it dude. It’s the way we roll.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Enlighten us with the benefit of your expertise in “gay bareback porn”.

Not mixing in lefty circles I’m consequently not au fait with their humour, however using tonight’s revelations I deduce the following:

Left-wing humour is not as I had imagined it to be.

Rabz
December 11, 2022 9:06 pm

Believe it or not I was shocked when I saw Miranda Kerr first wear a modern swimsuit

Indeed, of course you were, Squire.

As was I.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 11, 2022 9:08 pm

From Urban Dictionary

grok
[?r?k]
VERB
US
INFORMAL
understand (something) intuitively or by empathy:
“corporate leaders seemed to grok this concept fairly quickly”
establish a rapport:
“nestling earth couple would like to find water brothers to grok with in peace”

Perhaps m0nty=fa could explain how we should “grok” underage access to sites like grindr. Not having ever visited them, I am puzzled.

Rabz
December 11, 2022 9:09 pm

Anyway Cats, before I sign off for the week, time for some pure art and beauty.

For my beloved Miss Emily. 🙂

rosie
rosie
December 11, 2022 9:20 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 11, 2022 9:25 pm

No, this is how you head butt.

Also known as a “Liverpool kiss.”

C.L.
C.L.
December 11, 2022 9:26 pm

There were a few hotties at the Sky party.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 11, 2022 9:28 pm

You have to admire m0nty=fa’s dedication to the fascist left, that he is so vigorously defending the indefensible.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 11, 2022 9:31 pm

Artist Banksy paints a mural in the Ukraine.

Sponsored by the CIA.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 11, 2022 9:32 pm

You have to admire m0nty=fa’s dedication to the fascist left, that he is so vigorously defending the indefensible.

Not really John of Boambee. He/she/them/xe is just showing his true colours. And it is not pretty.

MatrixTransform
December 11, 2022 9:34 pm

when I saw Miranda Kerr first wear a modern swimsuit

… I thought she must have got caught in a net

Frank
Frank
December 11, 2022 9:37 pm

OK Dot, there is a double standard. Still, I would much rather have Miranda Kerr in a modern swimsuit assailing my sensibilities than Monty similarly attired.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 11, 2022 9:37 pm

Moonraker. Brings to mind the greatest ever console game on Nintendo. Which is GoldenEye

Rabz
December 11, 2022 9:38 pm
Dot
Dot
December 11, 2022 9:46 pm

Black Ball says:
December 11, 2022 at 9:37 pm
Moonraker. Brings to mind the greatest ever console game on Nintendo. Which is GoldenEye

The last two/bonus missions were dumb fun, Silo on 007 was the toughest.

Best of all was being Oddjob and just slapping the shit out of your mates in multiplayer. Beats a git who was a guru with remote mines.

Satellite basement/cavern was the best map for a mine only battle.

Zipster
Zipster
December 11, 2022 9:49 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 11, 2022 9:52 pm

I thought she must have got caught in a net

Any chance of a link? Asking for a friend…

Rabz
December 11, 2022 9:55 pm

Turning the sky a cold dark colour as they circled overhead

What’s the matter now, lover boy
Has the cat run off with your tongue?

Are you drinking to get maudlin
Or drinking to get numb?

MatrixTransform
December 11, 2022 9:58 pm

Any chance of a link?

gave her a pilchard and threw her back

Rabz
December 11, 2022 9:59 pm

Any chance of a link?

She’s nowhere near as beautiful as Miss Emily.

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 11, 2022 10:04 pm

Moonraker. Brings to mind the greatest ever console game on Nintendo. Which is GoldenEye

Moonraker has the greatest 007 double entendre ever.

Sir Desmond Gray “My God, what’s Bond doing?”

Q “I think he’s attempting re-entry, Sir!”

Brilliant stuff.

duncanm
duncanm
December 11, 2022 10:09 pm

JCsays:
December 11, 2022 at 5:58 pm
I mentioned earlier that I sat beside a software engineer on the way back.

He told me he was 43. His wife worked part-time as an occupational therapist and said, he earned 350K a year. Yet they were still renting in Blackburn. They’re looking to buy a place next year in the area.

I find it incredible that in Australia a 43 year old earning a decent wicket may not afford a home.

this bloke really was full of shit. There’s plenty of houses you can purchase on that wicket.

Maybe he needs to give up the daily soy frappacino, smashed avocado on toast and twice-weekly 3-hat restaurants.

duncanm
duncanm
December 11, 2022 10:13 pm

Franksays:
December 11, 2022 at 8:01 pm
It’s pretty off colour to be all paws when it comes to the ladies but exposing yourself is really beyond the pale. They invented clothes for a reason, that reason being middle age.

mmmm.. reminds me of a work xmas do I attended where one of the (middle-aged) ladies became very proud of her boob job after a few drinks.

She was moved on at a later point, but I don’t think it had anything to do with the exhibitionism.

bespoke
bespoke
December 11, 2022 10:29 pm
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 11, 2022 10:30 pm

BoN I was a little taken aback when you said you were going to nail munty. I got in touch with munty and he said it’s okay as long as it’s a 9″ nail.

Indolent
Indolent
December 11, 2022 10:51 pm
Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 11, 2022 10:59 pm

Based on reports appears Chris Smith will be lucky to continue his roles with Sky and 2GB. Had similar issues before going back quite a way.

Peter Gleeson of Courier Mail and Sky recently let go due to plagiarism.

Two “conservative” type commentators gone in a few weeks.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 11, 2022 11:00 pm

it’s a 9? nail.
Dark, brilliant. Rabz you could have this cover from Joy Division

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 11, 2022 11:07 pm

From the Oz – I’ve posted the whole article.

Rash activists put treasured principles at risk: Chris Mitchell

10:30PM December 11, 2022
No Comments

Activists used to campaign against conservative federal and state governments that denied citizens the right to the presumption of innocence.

Reflect on the way the late Queensland premier, Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen, used police to arrest protesters against the 1971 South African Springbok rugby union tour in Brisbane. Former ALP premier Peter Beattie was assaulted and taken into custody at a protest outside the Tower Mill Motel where the Springboks were staying.

Three days later, a young lawyer, Terry O’Gorman – who went on to become the long-time president of the Australian Council for Civil Liberties – joined the protests. O’Gorman, Beattie and civil libertarians across the nation fought bitterly to shut down Special Branch operations that were used in several states to keep tabs on public protests, especially against the Vietnam War.

Now journalists wanting improvements in the way sexual assault cases are handled in court are, in effect, campaigning against the right to the presumption of innocence. Whether in the trial and conviction of Cardinal George Pell on charges rejected by the High Court on April 7, 2020, or the failed charges against former Liberal federal staffer Bruce Lehrmann in the ACT, there is evidence some prosecutors – and in Victoria, police too – are shifting the burden of proof so complainants are automatically believed.

Victorian Premier Dan Andrews posted on Twitter on the day the High Court unanimously threw out the Pell verdict: “I make no comment about today’s High Court decision. But I have a message for every single victim and survivor of child sex abuse: I see you. I hear you. I believe you.” Many lawyers, including O’Gorman, saw it as an inappropriate comment for a government leader.

O’Gorman, still vice-president of the Queensland Council for Civil Liberties, understands the public’s concern that victims of sexual assault not be retraumatised by court processes but fears the balance has shifted too far against the presumption of innocence.

“Remember Chief Justice Lucy McCallum (in the ACT Supreme Court) went out of her way at the end of the Bruce Lehrmann trial to say how important the role of defence counsel is in this sort of matter. And she went on to compliment the prosecutor and defence for the manner in which they had conducted the trial. But the fact the Chief Justice felt she needed to explain to the public the important role of defence counsel shows how far the pendulum has swung,” O’Gorman said.

The trial was aborted on October 26 over juror misconduct. The prosecution dropped its case on December 2 after medical evidence about the trial’s impact on the complainant, former Liberal staffer Brittany Higgins, who claimed she was raped in the office of minister Linda Reynolds in Canberra in March 2019.

Much has been written about the tragic effects the failure of the court process has had, and will continue to have, on the lives of Higgins and Lehrmann, who has always maintained his innocence and last week hired prominent Sydney defamation lawyer Mark O’Brien. On Twitter, many senior left-wing journalists who should know better continue to defame Lehrmann. Higgins said last Wednesday she would be prepared to give evidence in a civil action by Lehrmann.

No journalist knows what really happened that night in Reynolds’s office after an afternoon and night of drinking. But activist journalists and lawyers have been happy to trash Lehrmann’s right to the presumption of innocence.

A piece in The Sydney Morning Herald on December 5 by barrister Steve Boland got the balance right: “The events surrounding the criminal allegations made by Brittany Higgins against Bruce Lehrmann are a lamentable example of what happens to the justice system when the principles of prudence, discretion and sobriety of judgment are set aside in favour of publicity, politics and rank ideology.”

Boland said such trials “are invariably tried in conditions of anonymity, which is a statutory right afforded to the complainant”. Boland criticised politicians from both sides of the house and journalists for ill-informed comments on the case and a lack of “fealty … to the time-honoured principles on which our society was founded”.

Back to O’Gorman: “Far too many people on the left are saying when it comes to sexual assault cases the normal rules about the presumption of innocence don’t matter. Well, sorry, these rules matter in every case and they particularly matter in sexual assault cases.

“In the UK now police are trained to tell complainants in sexual assault matters that they believe them. It’s this sort of presumption of guilt that brings about miscarriages of justice. Look at Cliff Richard. This was a big settlement. Why? Because the BBC and other media just presumed guilt because there was a police raid on his house. As Richard said in a TV interview, ‘I got some money out of it but I’ll never get my reputation back’.”

Sir Cliff Richard won damages of £210,000 and was awarded legal costs of £2m in 2018 and 2019 respectively. The BBC apologised after hiring a helicopter to film the police raid on Richard’s home in 2014. Richard had denied a claim he sexually assaulted a boy after a Billy Graham rally in 1985. No charges were ever laid. Richard also settled with Yorkshire police for £400,000 after they tipped off the BBC.

Social media has been just as vile about Higgins and her female supporters as it has been about Lehrmann. One female journalist who has also received more than her fair share of social media abuse is Janet Albrechtsen, a columnist for this newspaper and herself a lawyer.

O’Gorman says he tells his left-wing friends they should read Albrechtsen: “What Janet Albrechtsen has written about the rights of the accused is correct. Some people on the left just won’t read her. I say to them, you have to read people you don’t agree with because it might actually cause you to change your own views.”

Albrechtsen wrote after the jury in the Lehrmann trial was dismissed in October: “Thursday’s mistrial is a fitting end to the media trial that preceded court proceedings. How could anyone expect a jury to be free from the enveloping, swirling, at times wild media forces, especially on social media, that applauded Higgins’s story, commended her bravery, celebrated her credibility and simultaneously ran untested stories about Bruce Lehrmann?”

Albrechtsen was even criticised for publishing on December 3 leaked police memos suggesting the Australian Federal Police was concerned some evidence by Higgins was contradictory, recommended against prosecution and felt it was under political pressure to charge Lehrmann.

The spectacle of journalists who have lived off political, police and legal leaks all their lives condemning on social media the publication of a very relevant police leak took hypocrisy to new levels. There was no such criticism of The Guardian for publishing a letter from ACT Director of Public Prosecutions Shane Drumgold to the territory’s chief police officer, Neil Gaughan, last Thursday.

Drumgold accused police investigators of colluding with Lehrmann’s defence team and bullying Higgins. Drumgold clearly sees himself as representing the interests of the complainant rather than the Crown. It’s exactly what O’Gorman is talking about.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 11, 2022 11:13 pm
MatrixTransform
December 11, 2022 11:15 pm
NFA
NFA
December 11, 2022 11:19 pm

So, Higgins is a bit sloppy?

m0nty
m0nty
December 11, 2022 11:21 pm

Monty can help us to understand the inherent nuance.

Roth is saying that underage kids are accessing hook up sites already, getting around existing barriers by lying about their age, so maybe it would be better to legalise it – for under-18s to only hook up with their age peers, not adults – and make it safe rather than let it run free for adult predators to roam.

In other words, he is arguing the opposite of what you say he is.

MatrixTransform
December 11, 2022 11:23 pm

stfu mUnty

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 11, 2022 11:25 pm

Photographs of the stunning Mt Warning summit near Byron Bay could soon be banned under a new plan by the Aboriginal group which now controls the site.

NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet handed over management of Wollumbin National Park and Mt Warning to the small Wollumbin Consultative Group who promptly banned visitors to the once popular hiking spot.

The group made of Indigenous families and community organisations caused an uproar when they claimed allowing females, including those of Indigenous heritage, on the site would ruin its cultural significance.

As part of the Wollumbin Aboriginal Place Management Plan the traditional owners now want to ban using photos or images of the mountain for tourism, advertising or business purposes.

Daily Mail – The Voice will fix all this!

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 11, 2022 11:25 pm

Monty, you and your lot love posting shit about pedophilia. Shut up.

C.L.
C.L.
December 11, 2022 11:26 pm

Peter Gleeson of Courier Mail and Sky recently let go due to plagiarism.

Two “conservative” type commentators gone in a few weeks

Gleeson’s infractions were egregious. He was clearly spread too thin and couldn’t come up with his contractual feature each and every week – in addition to his Sky work. I feel a bit sorry for him.

Reflect on the way the late Queensland premier, Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen, used police to arrest protesters against the 1971 South African Springbok rugby union tour in Brisbane. Former ALP premier Peter Beattie was assaulted and taken into custody at a protest outside the Tower Mill Motel where the Springboks were staying.

In three weeks’ time, Catholic hospitals in Queensland will be forced to enable on-site homicides of the elderly. The people who came up with this assault on conscience and private property rights are those protesters, more or less.

m0nty
m0nty
December 11, 2022 11:27 pm

I guess it’s fun for you to join the fascists in their pile on of the gay Jewish bloke, but it just makes you look like one of them.

MatrixTransform
December 11, 2022 11:29 pm

lying about their age, so maybe it would be better to legalise it

do you have daughters mUnty?

sons?

you ok with me … er… hooking up on line?

you should shut the fuck up, mate.

MatrixTransform
December 11, 2022 11:30 pm

yr too stupid for words

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 11, 2022 11:30 pm

It’s fun for your lot to be anti Semitic and post articles about pedophilia. Eh monty?

TrevorG
TrevorG
December 11, 2022 11:31 pm

m0nty says:
December 11, 2022 at 11:21 pm

Roth is saying that underage kids are accessing hook up sites already, getting around existing barriers by lying about their age, so maybe it would be better to legalise it –

for under-18s to only hook up with their age peers, not adults – and make it safe rather than let it run free for adult predators to roam.

It doesn’t make sense, what’s stopping the adults to lie about their age to lure kids?
Same as kids do now.

MatrixTransform
December 11, 2022 11:33 pm

you should shut the fuck up, mate.

your missus know what yr posting?

piece of shit

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 11, 2022 11:38 pm

Photographs of the stunning Mt Warning summit near Byron Bay could soon be banned under a new plan by the Aboriginal group which now controls the site.

Access to parts of Australia, based on race? What comes next? War is jou pass, witman?

Dot
Dot
December 11, 2022 11:41 pm

Roth is saying that underage kids are accessing hook up sites already, getting around existing barriers by lying about their age, so maybe it would be better to legalise it – for under-18s to only hook up with their age peers, not adults – and make it safe rather than let it run free for adult predators to roam.

Age of consent here is 16 generally. Why not just kick their arses for getting on underage?

No. You can’t hook up on Tinder when you’re 14. GTFO the app and cop a shot to the ribs you little bastards.

If they send anything explicit they are using a carriage device to distribute child exploitation material.

Let’s not encourage them from smearing their own names for future vocations and professions.

Zipster
Zipster
December 11, 2022 11:42 pm

lying about their age, so maybe it would be better to legalise it

mutley will be eating these words when his kids grow up

Zipster
Zipster
December 11, 2022 11:43 pm

I guess it’s fun for you to join the fascists in their pile on of the gay Jewish bloke, but it just makes you look like one of them.

cats look like gay jewish blokes…. er okays….

JC
JC
December 11, 2022 11:45 pm

Magic Marvin is one of the most useless, ill intentioned commenters to ever post at Cat.

m0nty
m0nty
December 11, 2022 11:48 pm

It doesn’t make sense, what’s stopping the adults to lie about their age to lure kids?
Same as kids do now.

There are already laws about that, which are enforced.

The anti-Semitism and homophobia on display on this issue is disgraceful. All the worst inclinations of the modern right in one story. The QAnon freaks must be laughing maniacally.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 11, 2022 11:51 pm

Gleeson and Smith gone from Sky is good news in my books. Couldn’t stand the sight of the greasy pointless pricks.
Daisy Cousins remains to assault our ears.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 11, 2022 11:53 pm

Can’t work out why Monty annoys people so much.
I don’t give him a thought. Just a silly bugger with too much time on his hands.

DaFisk
DaFisk
December 11, 2022 11:55 pm

Roth is saying that underage kids are accessing hook up sites already, getting around existing barriers by lying about their age, so maybe it would be better to legalise it – for under-18s to only hook up with their age peers, not adults – and make it safe rather than let it run free for adult predators to roam.

The obvious flaw in this plan is that if it is impossible to stop children impersonating adults on adult hook-up apps, what’s to stop adults from impersonating children on children’s hook-up apps??? The fact that Roth is even floating this idea shows that he knows nothing whatsoever about safeguarding, or that he doesn’t actually believe in it.

DaFisk
DaFisk
December 11, 2022 11:57 pm

I just can’t get over the idea of a child-friendly hook-up app. Whoever even *thinks* like this has obviously got some interesting neural pathways VERY hard-wired, taking them to some dark places.

m0nty
m0nty
December 11, 2022 11:57 pm

Can’t work out why Monty annoys people so much.

I shame them by defending principles that they abandoned in their partisan fervour.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 11, 2022 11:57 pm

Just a silly bugger with too much time on his hands.

His own attempt at setting up a blog sank without trace, some time ago…

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Magic Marvin is one of the most useless, ill intentioned commenters to ever post at Cat.

I am not.

DaFisk
DaFisk
December 12, 2022 12:00 am

The debate over this is exactly the same as the debate over marijuana legalisation in Colorado, in which “libertarians” claimed it would magically abolish the black market and even reduce pot use. Nope!

TrevorG
TrevorG
December 12, 2022 12:02 am

DaFisk says:
December 11, 2022 at 11:55 pm

what’s to stop adults from impersonating children on children’s hook-up apps???

That was my point but m0nty dismissed it with ” we have laws against that”, as if laws ever prevented crime.

DaFisk
DaFisk
December 12, 2022 12:10 am

That was my point but m0nty dismissed it with ” we have laws against that”, as if laws ever prevented crime.

That’s part of it, but there is a much bigger problem with the messaging here. If you genuinely believe there is a problem with child sexual exploitation on the internett, the very first step you need to take on this is not to legalise apps that incentivise and monetise child sexual activity. That’s a pretty OBVIOUS way to start the race a lap behind, isn’t it? And it doesn’t actually take you a SINGLE step closer to preventing inappropriate interactions between adults and children.

The real starting point is to actually tighten both taboos and legal safeguards around adult-child relations. This is definitely more of a thing in the UK nowadays.

TrevorG
TrevorG
December 12, 2022 12:15 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
December 11, 2022 at 11:57 pm

Just a silly bugger with too much time on his hands.

His own attempt at setting up a blog sank without trace, some time ago…

Ever met people personally who, just by looking at them, give you a negative vibe?
Works on the net too by the looks of it, takes a bit longer though.

JC
JC
December 12, 2022 2:32 am

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
December 11, 2022 at 11:59 pm
Magic Marvin is one of the most useless, ill intentioned commenters to ever post at Cat.
I am not.

Correct. You’re just the blowhard hotel employee who posts that he’s Labor Royalty and reckons a prince Andrew was a really good guy going after barely legal girls. In other words you’re a prince of the gutter.

Tom
Tom
December 12, 2022 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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bespoke
bespoke
December 12, 2022 5:15 am

C.L.says:
December 11, 2022 at 11:26 pm
Gleeson’s infractions were egregious. He was clearly spread too thin and couldn’t come up with his contractual feature each and every week – in addition to his Sky work. I feel a bit sorry for him.

None of that deserves a free pass.

Anchor What
Anchor What
December 12, 2022 5:52 am

What warming?
Forecast maxima for Goulburn NSW this week:
20-18-15-15-17-18-20.

Anchor What
Anchor What
December 12, 2022 5:55 am

The ABC is just like Twitter.
No conservative host of a prominent program.
No climate scepticism allowed. Hostile to conservative views.
Pushes green agendum and is consistently an ALP cheer squad.

rosie
rosie
December 12, 2022 6:00 am
rosie
rosie
December 12, 2022 6:01 am
Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 12, 2022 6:07 am

As my post on my nightmare lunch with wokey women attests, the young, particularly young women, love collectivism, big government and crackpottery such as “climate change”, “climate change”, “climate change”. Maybe they might think differently as they grow older, but I don’t hold out much hope.

Well I was at lunch with some older women yesterday, comfortably well-off, well-travelled women in their late 60s and while both were away from the table their older husband (80)/partner (74)s confided that both were ‘climate change’ believers. we did not touch that subject but made sure to say the earth has seen 4.5 billion years of ‘climate change’

rosie
rosie
December 12, 2022 6:08 am

My local cafe, which I know used to pay staff off and on the books, because they handed out the cash envelopes less than subtly, have just added the dreaded efpos surcharge.
No complaints from me really, they’ve done it hard throughout covid.
I’ll just pay cash.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 12, 2022 6:08 am

Higgins’ claim must be tested in open court

The Albanese Government cannot settle a compensation case involving Brittany Higgins behind closed doors.

Andrew Bolt

Justice demands the Albanese Government tests fully Brittany Higgins’ claim for nearly $3 million for a rape she has not proved.

Not just justice to taxpayers. How about justice to the man whose life is wrecked by an allegation he denies?

Higgins accused fellow Liberal staffer Bruce Lehrmann of raping her in Parliament House after a drunken night out.

That allegation will probably never be proved in the criminal courts after the first trial was aborted and the ACT Director of Public Prosecutions dropped the case, claiming the stress of a retrial could kill Higgins.

Yet Higgins was fit enough to immediately lodge this compensation claim against two Liberal ministers who employed her, and last week tweeted she was also prepared to be a witness “to defend the truth … in any potential civil cases brought by Mr Lehrmann” for compensation of his own.

I can understand why the criminal case, at least, became too stressful for Higgins. Claims she’d made to police about the alleged rape turned out in court to be false.

Some claims she made about the bullying and lack of support by the two Ministers, Linda Reynolds and Michaelia Cash, were denied.

Only then did Higgins become too fragile to continue.

That means the only court proceeding so far that Higgins can’t cope with is a criminal trial where the truth of what she claims must be established beyond reasonable doubt.

This compensation claim requires a lower standard of proof and can even be settled outside court by the Finance Department.

Indeed, the Government might find it politically convenient if Higgins is just handed the millions, without making her prove anything.

Labor has used her to smash the former Morrison Government as heartless and sexist, and the more she now gets for her alleged trauma, the worse the Liberals will seem.

What’s more, the Finance Department will probably argue it’s cheaper to pay Higgins than fight her in court.

But what price justice?

Every Australian must be presumed innocent until proven guilty, but if the Commonwealth simply hands Higgins millions, many will assume Lehrmann did rape her.

That is monstrously unfair, when Lehrmann has already been robbed of the chance of being found not guilty at his criminal trial.

The Finance Department cannot settle this highly politicised case behind closed doors.

It must test Higgins’ claim in open court, where Lehrmann, Reynolds and Cash get the chance to prove their innocence.

No more politics.

Let’s look for truth.

Herald-Sun

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 12, 2022 6:28 am

Yet Higgins was fit enough to immediately lodge this compensation claim against two Liberal ministers who employed her,

Straight up lie by Andrew Bolt.
Reynolds and Cash were notified months ago.
Is he trying to pretend that Higgins is running the claim from her place.

That is monstrously unfair, when Lehrmann has already been robbed of the chance of being found not guilty at his criminal trial.

Gimme a fuckin’ break.
Lehrmann’s Legal team have made at least 15 Applications in various Courts for a Permanent Stay of Proceedings.
Including at least one on Mental Health grounds.
Now he claims he wanted the Trial to go ahead to clear his name?
Fuck off, and when you get there, keep going.

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