Open Thread – Weekend 17 Dec 2022


The Luncheon, Claude Monet, 1873


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John Brumble
John Brumble
December 17, 2022 12:01 am

Second

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 17, 2022 12:03 am

Doh using 4 hour advantage hasn’t worked.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 17, 2022 12:06 am

This thread dedicated to Marnus Labuschagne having the suitcase belted out of him by the Jaapies later today.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 17, 2022 12:14 am

Jesus wept. With rage.

The Sydney Thunder were bowled out – as mentioned by BB at the tail of the OOT – for 15.

Fifteen runs. In 35 balls. The previous lowest ever BBL team score after God knows how many seasons was 57.

A tailender top scored with 4. To add insult to considerable injury, the team that bent them over the ute was from Adelaide.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
December 17, 2022 12:21 am

How are you gentlemen.
All fifth place are belong to us.

Tom
Tom
December 17, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
December 17, 2022 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
December 17, 2022 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
December 17, 2022 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
December 17, 2022 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
December 17, 2022 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
December 17, 2022 4:17 am
Tom
Tom
December 17, 2022 4:18 am
Tom
Tom
December 17, 2022 4:19 am
Tom
Tom
December 17, 2022 4:21 am
Tom
Tom
December 17, 2022 4:22 am
Tom
Tom
December 17, 2022 4:23 am
Tom
Tom
December 17, 2022 4:24 am
Black Ball
Black Ball
December 17, 2022 6:26 am

A tailender top scored with 4.

That was an inside edge down to fine leg for a boundary. Was extraordinary to see.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 17, 2022 6:28 am

Sydney Thunder turns out to be a fart in a storm.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 17, 2022 6:31 am

Sydney Thunder, no hit and a lot of giggle.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 17, 2022 6:41 am

Yesterday Monty was trying to be funny about Trump’s NFT trading cards.

Today:

Trump NFT Trading Cards Sell Out, Raise $4.45M (Newsmax, 16 Dec)

The entire collection of former President Donald Trump’s digital trading cards reportedly sold out within 12 hours of launching — raising millions in the process.

He’s fun! Trump I mean, not Monty.

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
December 17, 2022 6:57 am

https://twitter.com/Ausgrid/status/1603814086503866368
Power outage now around Narara (near Gosford, North of sydenee)
covered by Dobell and/or Robertson, both currently Labor feral electorates
nothing to see, move along.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 17, 2022 6:57 am

Since no one has called it yet:

FIRST!!!

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2022 7:11 am

The Sydney Thunder were bowled out – as mentioned by BB at the tail of the OOT – for 15.

Sounds like Little Kerry will have to drop another writ on CA because the Big Bash is so crap. Imagine paying $400m or whatever for this. Nearly worse than tennis.

calli
calli
December 17, 2022 7:19 am

Cold and raining here today. If we’re going to anthropomorphise, this looks like being the “Shy Summer”.

Twenty bob (shillings) is a quid (pound). Twenty four pence, or two shillings, was my pocket money in 1962. A guinea was one pound plus one shilling. Children in primary school were expected to add up a three column sum which was not decimal but based on twelve pence to the shilling, twenty shillings to the pound.

There was a 10 shilling note, it was brownish and in 1966 morphed into the dollar note. The little silver thrupenny bit, with its sheaf of wheat, disappeared altogether. Although it does make a reappearance sometimes in Christmas puddings.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2022 7:23 am

Only ever see the 2 minute “highlights” of the T20 on the News. It consists mainly of shots normally played by 8yo boys in the nets and wide shots of balls landing on roofs to accompanying 90s soft metal music. No wonder everyone can find better things to do with their time. Even driving an Uber.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 17, 2022 7:23 am

Electric golf cart news.

Ford Raises F-150 Lightning Prices Again, Now 40% More Expensive (16 Dec)

The base version of the Ford F-150 Lightning electric pickup now starts at $56,000, more than 40%, or about $15,000, over its original listing price earlier this year, according to Electrek. Ford hiked prices in August and October.

Electrek discovered the stealth price hike after visiting the order page of the Detriot-based automaker’s website. The configuration and base price of all EV Lightning variants is shown below.

Meanwhile, lithium prices per ton are skyrocketing.

After a pause it looks like lithium is taking off once more. It’s already about half the price of silver, so actual parity is not out of the question. Good luck with that EV revolution, pollie peoples.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2022 7:27 am

On 90s metal – was out yesterday and Maria had been shunted for a Muzak version of Twisted Sister’s “We’re not Gonna Take it”. It was as bad as this sounds.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
December 17, 2022 7:32 am

calli, I think that the reason we had to rote learn 12 times tables was for the old currency and imperial measurements. I was too young for pounds, shillings and pence but can remember having to learn feet, yards, ounces and pounds, etc in primary school just before having to change over to metric measurements in 1974.

calli
calli
December 17, 2022 7:37 am

Another money memory.

The ha’penny. That’s right. One half of one penny. It would buy you a few lollies at the tuckshop, doled out from a glass jar into a little paper bag.

And the bronzed copper penny, with its bounding kangaroo, was the offertory at Sunday School. As the plate passed around, we would sing, “Hear the pennies dropping.”.

Tap and Go won’t have quite the same resonance in years to come.

Cassie of Sydney
December 17, 2022 7:38 am

Janet Albrechtsen has written another good piece on today’s Oz about the Brittaneeee da Knickerless saga.

rosie
rosie
December 17, 2022 7:41 am

The point though I think is that no-one called it 20 bob, it was two bob, like a watch, or a quid.
Auntie Geraldine claimed her brothercousin stole repeatedly from his teacher.
It seems more likely she would have a few shillings in her purse rather than pounds to be lifted on a regular basis.
I also suspect her relative was put into care for reasons greater than pinching two bob.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
December 17, 2022 7:42 am

Being the first of the decimal currency generation I remember going to the corner store with 5 cents on a summer day and having to choose between spending the whole amount on a Paddle Pop or getting a Johnny Skybomber water ice block for 4 cents and a bag of lollies for the remainder.

calli
calli
December 17, 2022 7:44 am

Yes, skier. Sixteen ounces to the pound, fourteen pounds to the stone. Pints and gills, and gallons and cups and spoons. Then there was the yards, feet and inches, and the larger measurements – perches and ells and fathoms and furlongs.

The exercise books had all the conversion tables printed on the back.

Now you’re lucky if the shop assistant can make change without a calculator.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 17, 2022 7:46 am

Now you’re lucky if the shop assistant can make change without a calculator.

regression.

A big Carrington event will sort that out.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 17, 2022 7:48 am

No electronics or electricals for a year or two. It will be fun.

calli
calli
December 17, 2022 7:49 am

No, there was no “20 bob”. It was always a pound.

If someone stole a pound note, they’d be in a world of trouble. To a child it was a king’s ransom.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
December 17, 2022 7:49 am

Now you’re lucky if the shop assistant can make change without a calculator.

With the mental arithmetic learned at school I can usually tell the shop assistant how much change before she or he rings it up on the till. I have been asked “how did you do that?” on occasions and reply “I learned it at primary school” and leave it at that.

Pogria
Pogria
December 17, 2022 7:51 am

MEGHAN MCCAIN: Kiss America goodbye, Harry and Meghan, you’ve finally lost us: We’re covering our eyes, plugging our ears and screaming -please God, make it stop

I cannot stand Meghan McCain, but once you’ve lost the retard base, kiss your whining, grasping future goodbye.
As an aside, the 100 million dollar deals they had signed were on a contingency basis. If they don’t deliver for Netflix, they don’t receive. haha!

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 17, 2022 7:53 am

And the bronzed copper penny, with its bounding kangaroo,

4 liquorice blocks to the penny, fold the corners into the middle and popped into my gob, kept me chewing for ages.

One of my earliest memories of school was mum giving me a shilling for a pie with sauce on a Friday, as a real treat when we drove to Melbourne we would stop and get a “trumpet”(now Cornetto) or heart, cost 1 bob as well.

Was in grade 2 when we did the changeover.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2022 7:55 am

Basically you work in retail if you’re too dumb to get into teaching at Uni.

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 17, 2022 7:57 am

To a child it was a king’s ransom.

I was going to trade in my new baby brother for 3 pnds,11s & a ha’penny, the price of one those ride in peddle cars.

I remember seeing a lot of the 1o shilling, very rarely a pound, and have no memory of ever seeing anything bigger.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 17, 2022 7:58 am

With the mental arithmetic learned at school I can usually tell the shop assistant how much change before she or he rings it up on the till.

I gave a young checkout lady the correct change a couple weeks ago since I wanted to use up some of the coins I had. She couldn’t add the coin total. Eventually after several tries at counting them she just believed me, put them into the tray and apologized that she’d had a mental blank. It was an interesting insight into what kids don’t learn at school these days.

bespoke
bespoke
December 17, 2022 7:59 am

Mother Lodesays:
December 17, 2022 at 6:57 am
Since no one has called it yet:

FIRST!!!

Amateur

calli
calli
December 17, 2022 8:01 am

Gosh, I feel old as Methuselah this morning.

There was also hundredweights and tons. I’m seeing those rotten tables bobbing about behind my eyes, all in minuscule 6pt. In ‘66 the money had converted, but the rest took a bit longer. And we were expected to know it and calculate it by the end of primary school. Long division and multiplication included.

Then, upon entering the hallowed halls of high school, we were presented with the dreaded Log Tables, green covered and oozing with columns and decimals. No calculators. Slide rule optional (I still have mine, tucked away in its plastic case).

All dripping with gender inequality and racism on account of white pages and phallic shapes.

rosie
rosie
December 17, 2022 8:03 am

And can you imagine a kid under 10 rocking in to the Mooroopna milk bar waving around a quid on a regular basis?
In a town where in the early 1960s most likely everyone knew everyone?

calli
calli
December 17, 2022 8:12 am

Min asked last night about a definition of a “garden”. Here’s mine:

The Black Hole into which I throw money

Indolent
Indolent
December 17, 2022 8:12 am
alwaysright
alwaysright
December 17, 2022 8:14 am

Chains
1 Chain = 22 yards = 1 front paddock cricket pitch

1 chain x 10 chain is an acre

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 17, 2022 8:20 am

ABC assiduously avoiding the obvious religious nuttery of the Train family.
Their last uploaded video was about the devil coming to their property and seeing friends when they “get home”.
Anti Vaxx, SovCitz, right wing conspiracy theories and misinformation were the only topics of interest.
Answer?
More government snooping into the lives of supposedly free people.
The Trains thought big brother was coming to get them and the progressives want to make that a reality.
It’s for our own good.

Mantaray
Mantaray
December 17, 2022 8:21 am

So what’s the go with the cops out Tara way?

First they send FOUR officers to do a “welfare check”, when they already knew the “missing person” was there and in contact by phone with friends and relatives etc (means: were expecting trouble, or else have far too many cops out there), and then when the shyte hits the fan, the cops did not return fire, but cringed in the bushes someplace.

Contrast that piss-weak response with the following….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vquSVgO8H54….

Bearing in mind that the knife the perp in Airlie “lunged” at cops with was…wait or it…FOUR centimetres long it’s no wonder all these cops are acclaimed HEROES, eh what?

Nah, there’s plenty more to this story. PLUS….the deranged perps were anti-vaxxers! The SWAT squad wot got ’em were Pro-Vaxxers. Yay for the ah-so-thin blue line of heroes!

132andBush
132andBush
December 17, 2022 8:23 am

Trump not taking anything seriously.
Does not deserve to run again.

Indolent
Indolent
December 17, 2022 8:27 am
Indolent
Indolent
December 17, 2022 8:29 am
Dot
Dot
December 17, 2022 8:31 am

The entire collection of former President Donald Trump’s digital trading cards reportedly sold out within 12 hours of launching — raising millions in the process.

It would be hilarious if he gave NFTs credibility.

Dot
Dot
December 17, 2022 8:32 am

Nah, there’s plenty more to this story. PLUS….the deranged perps were anti-vaxxers! The SWAT squad wot got ’em were Pro-Vaxxers. Yay for the ah-so-thin blue line of heroes!

Indeed there is, my sympathy stops as they murdered their neighbour.

mem
mem
December 17, 2022 8:33 am

Peter Van Onselen in todays Oz says albo’s energy deal is a shocker and will come back and bite him. Can’t post it maybe someone else can. The blow back is just beginning and it seems not only from the usual quarters.

Rabz
December 17, 2022 8:34 am

Magnificent:

Here richly, with ridiculous display,
The Politician’s corpse was laid away.
While all of his acquaintance sneered and slanged
I wept: for I had longed to see him hanged.

— Hilaire Belloc

Dot
Dot
December 17, 2022 8:35 am

1 chain x 10 chain is an acre

How can you have your pudding if you don’t eat your meat?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 17, 2022 8:35 am

Hey Bush
The header is still in shop -8230
New Rotor gear box and looms to replace the singed wiring but on start up the readout won’t register rotor revs and shuts down. It spins and will go into de-slug mode but even that shows no output to the screen.
We haven’t missed much harvest as moisture levels only dropped back into the range yesterday but we’re about to unless this glitch is fixed.
Have you heard of this problem.? A fuse maybe?

Indolent
Indolent
December 17, 2022 8:36 am
Rabz
December 17, 2022 8:44 am

Min asked last night about a definition of a “garden”. Here’s mine:

A place were I engage in mowing, weeding, pruning, slashing and hacking.

Rabz
December 17, 2022 8:47 am

Activists fail to glue themselves to German road when freezing temperatures stop adhesive from working

These people are insane.

So much for summer. Had to turn the aircon on last night on heat, because it was so bloody cold.

Today’s forecast is also a bummer for the big Sydney Cat BBQ at the cottage – 18 degrees, overcast and strong winds.

Grate.

132andBush
132andBush
December 17, 2022 8:47 am

Gez,
Will make a call.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 17, 2022 8:48 am

callisays:
December 17, 2022 at 7:19 am
Cold and raining here today. If we’re going to anthropomorphise, this looks like being the “Shy Summer”.

After Krakatoa was “The Year Without a Summer”.

After Tonga?

Indolent
Indolent
December 17, 2022 8:49 am

Why do some people’s personalities suddenly change after receiving mRNA injections?

The most alarming part is that they want to change not just the flu injection but ALL vaccines to mRNA. Interesting, isn’t it. It is indisputable that the Covid shots have had more adverse reactions than all other vaccines over at least the past 50 years combined. And yet, somehow, this form of “vaccine” is touted as being the new standard.

People really must wake up to the fact that our governments not only don’t have our best interests at heart but are quite literally willing to kill us – in the name of health safety, of course.

shatterzzz
December 17, 2022 8:50 am

Never Forget .. BAT FLU files …!
https://youtu.be/q_RFLtp38lM

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 17, 2022 8:51 am

callisays:
December 17, 2022 at 7:19 am
Cold and raining here today. If we’re going to anthropomorphise, this looks like being the “Shy Summer”.

Twenty bob (shillings) is a quid (pound). Twenty four pence, or two shillings, was my pocket money in 1962. A guinea was one pound plus one shilling. Children in primary school were expected to add up a three column sum which was not decimal but based on twelve pence to the shilling, twenty shillings to the pound.

IIRC, there was a Guinea coin (21 shillings/bob). Was that what was causing the confusion? The teacher might have brought one in to show the class.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
December 17, 2022 8:51 am

Bruce of Newcastle
Your thought on the fusion experiment in the US this week.
Read about it into Weekend Oz.
It sounds like a lot of effort for an output not that great.
Please help.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 17, 2022 8:51 am

Thanks Bush

shatterzzz
December 17, 2022 8:54 am

Min asked last night about a definition of a “garden”. Here’s mine:

No matter how much time & effort I put in one of the kids will look at it and say,
“Geez, dad, grass needs cutting”
No offer(s) of help .. just advice .. LOL!

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
December 17, 2022 8:56 am

JoNova has a good post titled “Fusion works, but uses a supernova budget to make a mini sun for a fraction of a second” – well worth a read.

Damon
Damon
December 17, 2022 8:56 am

A cautionary tale. Plastic grocery bags banned. Supermarkets collect them for recycling. Introduce larger and more robust plastic bags. Cease collection of soft plastics for recycling. When I queried BCC about disposal, I was told “just throw them in the garbage”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 17, 2022 9:00 am

People really must wake up to the fact that our governments not only don’t have our best interests at heart but are quite literally willing to kill us – in the name of health safety, of course.

Canadian medical industry in action:

OH, CANADA (15 Dec)

“In a prestigious medical journal, doctors from Toronto’s Hospital for Sick Children laid out policies & procedures for administering medically assisted death to children, incl scenarios where the parents would not be informed until after the child dies…”

Yep they want to euthanize your children without your consent then maybe tell you about it afterwards.

132andBush
132andBush
December 17, 2022 9:01 am

Gez,
Things to check:
Rotor engage detent. Check if adjusted correctly.

Check no metal on magnetic pickup for rotor speed sensor.

Double and triple check if it’s the correct loom.

P
P
December 17, 2022 9:01 am

Poso @JackPosobiec
·
56m
Many are saying this is one of the best policy statements Trump or any Republican has given on free speech
Full federal defunding of the Disinformation Archipelago

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1603857329984012289

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 17, 2022 9:03 am

Old enough to remember when the sixpence and shilling coins were interchangeable with the five and 10 cent pieces at the corner store.

shatterzzz
December 17, 2022 9:04 am

Maybe Luigi is suffering from “Dunning Kruger” effect .. would explain a lot .. LOL!
https://ibb.co/SBWckmb

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 17, 2022 9:04 am

Thanks Bush, will do.
Heading in to town shortly.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2022 9:06 am

A cautionary tale. Plastic grocery bags banned. Supermarkets collect them for recycling. Introduce larger and more robust plastic bags. Cease collection of soft plastics for recycling. When I queried BCC about disposal, I was told “just throw them in the garbage”.

The recycling firm went bust.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
December 17, 2022 9:08 am

The Wentworth Report had a couple of outstanding articles by Robert Gobliebson this week. The first on the subs contract cancellation. The French were taking us for idiots, agreement said one thing, contract and delivery said another it it was rubbish.
Closer for me was the article on the idiotic impact the labor party capping of prices and stopping oil and gas industry projects.
Robert nailed the truth about ATO audit activity, it is going to bankrupt family businesses or drive people out of business as the final straw.
From the ato audits, people are paying extra tax, penalties and interest on “interpretations” which are plainly wrong and false.
This is true. You have no idea what they are hitting you with.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 17, 2022 9:10 am

IIRC, there was a Guinea coin (21 shillings/bob). Was that what was causing the confusion? The teacher might have brought one in to show the class.
A Primary School teacher in 1962 was paid 4 Pounds a day.
She wasn’t bringing a Pound to work every day and leaving it on her desk for some future jailbird to steal.

There was no Guinea coin or note.
Houses and Land were priced in Guineas at the time.

Before you comment, why not read the original comments,
rather than wade in like the low rent Troll you are?
Bottom line:
1. Aunty G is a grievance monger
2. Aborigines are heavily represented in the Prison Population.
Getting the cops off their backs hasn’t changed that.
3. Aunty G is either making it up or retelling something she heard.
No one ever said “20 Bob”, although 2 Bob converts to 20 cents.
The best interpretation is that because she’s an aboriginal figurehead, she’s allowed to get away with saying anything.

In 1962, 2 bob bought 3 mince pies [mutton] and a box of matches.
Or a packet of 20 Rothmans King size and a box of matches.
Teachers weren’t leaving 2 bob coins on their desks.
They weren’t even leaving halfpennies on the desk.

custard
custard
December 17, 2022 9:10 am

Mike Lindell, Emerald Robinson, Jim Hoft and Gateway Pundit Twitter accounts all reinstated.

Remind me again who is ascendant?

Rabz
December 17, 2022 9:10 am

Thanks, P.

Fatty Trump on fire.

rosie
rosie
December 17, 2022 9:11 am

John, Aunty Geraldine claimed her brothercousin was a repeated stealer of 20 bobs so show and tell seems doubtful.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 17, 2022 9:11 am

Bruce of Newcastle
Your thought on the fusion experiment in the US this week.

Louis – I am cautious about it since the method is inherently small scale and there’s a long long way before developing the engineering for a workable power plant. Fifty years I’d guess. It will also be extremely expensive in terms of capital cost – all the lasers plus the equipment, containment* and etc. Heat transfer almost certainly would have to be to a layer of liquid lithium, like the tokamak/stellarator type of fusion, and liquid lithium metal is not the easiest thing to handle. Leaks of liquid sodium metal caused the Japanese breeder reactor project to fail.

I would not invest in any company doing fusion, the projects will be money pits for the next generation at least. You’ll do your dough.

Having said that it’s a nice bit of work. I would like them to do something else like lithium deuteride, since that would be a whole lot easier than making tritium. World production of tritium is only about a kilo per year. Lithium deuteride is the main stuff that makes a hydrogen bomb go bang.

(* Feeding pellets of deuterium/tritium at a rate necessary to sustain power production is going to be tough to do, especially since tritium is highly radioactive.)

Rabz
December 17, 2022 9:12 am

The recycling firm went bust.

Rog – ridiculous power bills were a factor, apparently.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2022 9:14 am

And just like that, mental illness was no longer to blame for domestic terrorism.

Replaced by “fundamentalist Christian theology.”

Because Jesus commanded his disciples to murder police, don’t you know.

Rabz
December 17, 2022 9:14 am

Mike Lindell, Emerald Robinson, Jim Hoft and Gateway Pundit Twitter accounts all reinstated.

And Keith Olbermann permanently banned.

Thanks, Elon.

rosie
rosie
December 17, 2022 9:14 am

The Trains
Paranoid religious nutters who took on board every conspiracy theory going who apparently lured police to their deaths and killed a neighbour for good measure.
The only question for me is why senior police hadn’t assessed them as being high risk for a friendly welfare check.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2022 9:15 am

Rog – ridiculous power bills were a factor, apparently.

As Damon wrote, a cautionary tale.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 17, 2022 9:15 am

Labor’s price caps likely to come back and bite

PETER VAN ONSELEN

Accepting that good politics doesn’t always equate to good policy, let’s start by congratulating the federal government on the political outcome achieved this week on the energy front.

With the Labor government’s first budget forecasting skyrocketing energy prices but offering no solution to go with the bad news in October (it’s hard to know who to blame for that beyond new Treasurer Jim Chalmers), Anthony ­Albanese now has successfully negotiated a deal with premiers to at least do something.

Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen promised to get any deal in place before Christmas and worked diligently to cobble together a package that won the support of the Greens and enough of the crossbench to pass it into law.

Labor had made an election commitment to reduce power bills by $275 and now the independent Department of Treasury has come to the party too, somehow forecasting that the energy policy mix should reduce power bills by about $230. It isn’t the figure pledged by Labor at the election, nor is reducing the size of slated increases a real reduction, but it will have to do.

Herding premiers can be like herding cats, but with a state election just around the corner in NSW the Prime Minister was ­prepared to throw money at the problem to win the NSW Liberal government over.

The rest was comparatively easy: Labor tribalism was always going to win over the remaining mainland states so early in the life cycle of a new federal Labor government. After all, the final News­poll for this year has Albanese streets ahead of Peter Dutton as preferred prime minister, and the Labor government is 10 points up on the Coalition.

Assistant Minister for Trade and Manufacturing Tim Ayres says the industry is “jumping at shadows” over the… energy price cap bill. “These measures deal with a price cap that’s temporary and sensible for a very small proportion of the gas producers’ overall production,” Mr Ayres said. “A decade of policy More

But good short-term politics isn’t always the same as good politicking into the medium to longer term. Across that sort of time frame the links between good politics and good policy tend to become sharper, and the energy deal struck is anything but good policy. In fact, it is an out-and-out shocker, one that will do more harm than good in several ways.

For a start, it will deter investment and exploration, and not just in the mining sector. This government wants greater investment in renewables to help it achieve its emissions-reduction target for 2030. However, by embracing price caps on coal and gas on this occasion – with the purpose of providing cost-of-living relief for consumers – what might happen when weather events put a dent in storage and delivery ­capacity on the renewable front in the years ahead? Such circumstances would quite obviously result in price rises.

Anybody considering investing in renewables in this country now needs to consider the downside risk that their return on investment could be diminished by this government imposing price caps. That risk will slow such investments. According to Bowen’s own projections, we need 20,000 new solar panels built every day for the next eight years, and 40 new wind turbines built each month across the same time frame, to achieve the mooted emissions-reduction target of 43 per cent. That already sounded implausible, frankly, but what chance does it have of happening when investors flee for the hills?

There is even a risk the price caps won’t do their intended job. They apply only to producers, not energy retailers. And who is charged with ensuring retailers do the right thing and don’t sharply increase prices anyway? The Australian Competition & Consumer Commission, which doesn’t have a good track record for anything much at all beyond simply reviewing mergers (note its failures regarding supermarket prices).

Yet price caps aren’t the worst part of the energy policy design thrust on the parliament this week. At least they are limited to the next 12 months, even if the market is now aware that the government is happy to use them whenever it thinks it’s necessary to do so. The so-called reasonable price on gas – that is, the rate of ­return regulations – in the new rules are set to be applied indefinitely. This will severely curtail the gas market. Remember, gas is an important adjunct energy source and a vital transition energy supplement as we attempt to shift to more renewables.

Several of the design flaws in what has passed into law are a direct consequence of compromises to force an outcome so quickly: deals with premiers, the Greens, you name it. And remember that the claimed outcomes in the legislation, by the government’s own admission, won’t take effect until the second quarter of next year.

In other words, there was little policy imperative in passing the legislation this week. It could have waited pragmatically until parliament returned next February, giving everyone more time to digest what was proposed. But that wouldn’t have satisfied the political need to spruik a fix before Christmas, as had been promised.

While politics is often described as the art of the possible (initially by Otto von Bismark), too much compromise can jeopardise good policy outcomes. Former British prime minister Tony Blair was the ultimate consensus-style leader, yet even he said: “I don’t believe in sloppy compromise.” This energy package is sloppy in the extreme, but perhaps that was intended to make a national gas (and even coal) reserve look thoughtful by comparison. Albanese has flagged such thinking as what might come next.

As University of NSW economics professor Richard Holden recently wrote, the least bad option the government needs to consider is a domestic gas reservation policy in exchange for more supply. But even this solution doesn’t sufficiently lean in on the economic and environmental challenges surrounding coal.

Holden also has pointed out the problems attached to signalling to companies that they may not benefit when prices are high, courtesy of price caps for example: “They won’t invest in future projects, why would they?”

This is the law of unintended consequences too many economically illiterate politicians fall prey to – failing to realise their policy actions can have flow-on effects they didn’t anticipate or understand or that they simply underestimated.

We saw it when the live sheep trade was suddenly banned by the Gillard government and when the former Coalition government introduced robodebt to clean up the welfare system. This supposed energy fix could result in more problems than it solves, a policy amalgam that shifts decision-making, such that other policy goals can’t be met. And the political problems that the reactive legislation and regulations are designed to address just may leave legacy political failings that rebound on the government closer to the next election.

Peter van Onselen is professor of politics and public policy at the University of Western Australia and Griffith University.

Oz

custard
custard
December 17, 2022 9:17 am
Louis Litt
Louis Litt
December 17, 2022 9:18 am

Farmer Gez re your post re the Trains.
Terrible situation – the aggressors and victims would usually be peaceful co habitants in normal times. The Trains would have been law abiding citizens who would had respected the police/law.
Like you I think there could be more situations like this.
The 7.30 report with that white English supremisist Lara Tingle, ran the Train story, then idiotically ran the story of the of peaceful protest with that idiot being jailed for one year for locking her self in the Sydney tunnel.
This idiot, like extinction rebellion behaviour, could have an innocent person going on with their daily lives run her over. Can you imagine the impact on the driver.
The you tube image of a delivery driver in the uk driving around a bend screeching to a halt , then dragging an idiot to the footpath comes to mind.
Mad.

Johnny Rotten
December 17, 2022 9:22 am

This is the law of unintended consequences too many economically illiterate politicians fall prey to – failing to realise their policy actions can have flow-on effects they didn’t anticipate or understand or that they simply underestimated.

We saw it when the live sheep trade was suddenly banned by the Gillard government and when the former Coalition government introduced robodebt to clean up the welfare system. This supposed energy fix could result in more problems than it solves, a policy amalgam that shifts decision-making, such that other policy goals can’t be met. And the political problems that the reactive legislation and regulations are designed to address just may leave legacy political failings that rebound on the government closer to the next election.

Please keep up the good work Feral Laybore as you will become a one term Guv’ment. Top stuff.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 17, 2022 9:22 am

Just listened to this on YouTube via Unheard.

Jay Bhattacharya: What I discovered at Twitter HQ

Elon invited him to Twitter HQ in SF and let him look into his account. Spent an hour with Elon. He had been placed on a trends blacklist so that his reach was limited. Some good insights into Elon motivation.

He also mentioned taking part in a televised roundtable with Ron De Santos. Because he reference research on masking kids not being effective the while roundtable was suppressed on YouTube.

He blames the Govt for suppressing alternative views and says censorship cost lives.
He understands why Big Tech played along.

A publication like Quadrant or Spectator should listen to the interview and write it up as an article as many important points.

What are the odds similar happened here?

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 17, 2022 9:22 am

Richard Cranium

The guinea (/???ni?/; commonly abbreviated gn., or gns. in plural)[1] was a coin, minted in Great Britain between 1663 and 1814, that contained approximately one-quarter of an ounce of gold.[2] The name came from the Guinea region in West Africa, from where much of the gold used to make the coins was sourced.

It seems unlikely (unless teacher had a coin collector in the family) that such a coin ever appeared in the school room, nor that such a coin was ever stolen from the classroom, but (cunning trap) your Google-fu has deserted you again. There was indeed a guinea coin.

Try to learn to search, but learning to code would be well beyond your intellectual level.

Johnny Rotten
December 17, 2022 9:22 am

Paddy tells his wife “My bumhole is really burning, I’ve no idea what it is?” “Ring sting” his wife says. Paddy replies “How the fuck will he know?”

A drunk is sitting on the street curb in front of a bar. A stranger comes buy and asks if he’s okay. The drunk replies by asking “Do you know who I am?” The stranger says “No. Who are you?” The drunk proudly says “I’m Jesus Christ… and I can prove it! Come with me!” They enter the bar and the bartender looks up and yells “Jesus Christ! Are you here again?”

A blonde walks up to a Coke machine and puts in a coin. Out pops a Coke. The blonde looks amazed and runs away to get some more coins. She returns and starts feeding the machine madly and, of course, the machine keeps feeding out drinks. Another person walks up behind the blonde and watches her antics for a few minutes before stopping her, and asking if someone else could have a go. The blonde turns around and shouts “Can’t you see I’m winning!”

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 17, 2022 9:24 am

Bruce of Newcastle
Your thought on the fusion experiment in the US this week.
Read about it into Weekend Oz.
It sounds like a lot of effort for an output not that great.
Please help.

Louis Litt, the whole thing was a pile of horseshit. The fusion reaction allegedly provided a little more energy than the laser energy hitting the target, however the laser itself is woefully inefficient.
Karl Denninger explains it well here:https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=247626
Takeaway lines: “It is a big scientific step,” says Ryan McBride, a nuclear engineer at the University of Michigan. But, McBride adds, that does not mean that NIF itself is producing power. For one thing, he says, the lasers require more than 300 megajoules worth of electricity to produce around 2 megajoules of ultraviolet laser light. In other words, even if the energy from the fusion reactions exceeds the energy from the lasers, it’s still only around one percent of the total energy used.”

Johnny Rotten
December 17, 2022 9:24 am

Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.

– Confucius

This post is for the benefit of Turtle Head Bowen and Elbow……………………..And many many others.

calli
calli
December 17, 2022 9:27 am

Paranoid religious nutters

Quite so.

But…but…they were pushed, pushed into the nutterism by vax mandates something, something…

No they weren’t. They committed a cruel, wicked crime because they were cruel and wicked. And then gloated about it on social media, fully expecting that they would meet their Maker with extra brownie points.

No different to jihadis.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 17, 2022 9:27 am

SpongeBob:
brevity is the key to Trolling.
Do better.
Or fuck off.

Johnny Rotten
December 17, 2022 9:32 am

Boambee Johnsays:
December 17, 2022 at 9:22 am
Richard Cranium

The guinea (/???ni?/; commonly abbreviated gn., or gns. in plural)[1] was a coin, minted in Great Britain between 1663 and 1814, that contained approximately one-quarter of an ounce of gold.[2] The name came from the Guinea region in West Africa, from where much of the gold used to make the coins was sourced.

It seems unlikely (unless teacher had a coin collector in the family) that such a coin ever appeared in the school room, nor that such a coin was ever stolen from the classroom, but (cunning trap) your Google-fu has deserted you again. There was indeed a guinea coin.

Try to learn to search, but learning to code would be well beyond your intellectual level.

Yes and when buying stuff in posh/upmarket shops in England, it was very cool to quote prices in that coinage. It was 21 shillings or one pound sterling and one shilling.

calli
calli
December 17, 2022 9:33 am

In Australia, a guinea was a unit of currency, not currency itself. If you were charged a guinea, you paid over one pound and one shilling.

If Nock and Kirbys advertised a vacuum cleaner for, say ten guineas, it was the same type of marketing as something being priced today at $59.95. It lured the customer into thinking…hey that’s cheap…when it really wasn’t at all.

I’m sure there were some British sovereigns in circulation too, but not as currency, either notional or actual.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 17, 2022 9:34 am

Why were the cops always turning up unannounced at Gareth Train’s house?
If it was anything remotely connected to Crime, such as Drugs, Domestic Violence, etc., the Murdoch Press woulda let us know by now.

So, what was the reason?
We know that Gareth Train had worked in Child Protection.
He wasn’t a Whistleblower, by any chance?

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 17, 2022 9:34 am

Ed Casesays:
December 17, 2022 at 9:27 am
SpongeBob:
brevity is the key to Trolling.
Do better.
Or fuck off.

I’ll take that as your admission to being wrong.

Is this brief enough?

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 17, 2022 9:36 am

Richard Cranium

Your trolling at 0934 was not brief.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 17, 2022 9:38 am

To the Habitual Trolls:

Primary School teachers in 1962 were paid 20 pounds/week.
4 Pounds a day.
They were unlikely to even have a Pound in their purse, let alone leaving a few on the desk.

Bottom line:
Aunty Geraldine can spout any guff she likes, Catallaxy’s resident TrollForce will back it up.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2022 9:39 am

Cut and Pasting Professor van Wrongselen? What rabbit hole have I fallen down?

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 17, 2022 9:39 am

Having said the above there are some alternative fusion approaches that seem like they may work. Not being funded well as most of the big money is going into ITER which is a Tokamak. The late Dr Robert Bussard and colleagues came to the conclusion” we spent 16 billion dollars finding out Tokamaks are no damn good.
Nobody has experimentally demonstrated that Bussards IEC approach will not work and there’s a team at Lockheed Skunk Works doing another alternative approach, as well as others. It may well be that one of these teams will succeed. Kind of like the early days of aircraft gas turbines – difficult and then suddenly everybody was doing them. There are some similarities to fusion in that the power produced in a jet engine turbine drives the compressor to keep things going. Both the turbine and compressor efficiencies have to be high enough for the engine to actually be self sustaining (yep, one or two weren’t at first). The good bit is that as you further improve the efficiencies inside the engine the useful output gets much better very quickly.
IEC is Inertial Electrostatic Confinement. If it works the proton(ordinary Hydrogen) Boron 11 reaction is possible. No neutrons, just helium nuclei and you have about a 3.4 megavolt DC battery. Call GE to make you an inverter to reduce the voltage and convert to AC. No steam, no turbines, no Carnot cycle inefficiencies.

shatterzzz
December 17, 2022 9:40 am

We saw it when the live sheep trade was suddenly banned by the Gillard government and when the former Coalition government introduced robodebt to clean up the welfare system.

they don’t care cos there are NO consequences for political failure other than, maybe, a 3 day news cycle whinge .. the worst that can happen is a lost seat next election and extravagant retirement benefits either thru pollies ‘retirement” scheme(s), “jerbs fer the boyz” or the combination of both .. a win-win outcome guaranteed …….

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2022 9:41 am

What next? Mavis rings and says he is too busy to interview Keating and the column will have to be held over till next week?

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2022 9:42 am

Speaking of narrative changes, just listening to ABC RN (for my sins):

Lockdowns bad, herd immunity good, protect the vulnerable, anti-virals, live with the virus.

Two years ago this was “covid denialism.”

Crossie
Crossie
December 17, 2022 9:42 am

custard says:
December 17, 2022 at 9:10 am
Mike Lindell, Emerald Robinson, Jim Hoft and Gateway Pundit Twitter accounts all reinstated.

Remind me again who is ascendant?

The Establishment will make him pay and pay dearly. He has a space industry that needs government approvals and contracts that will be destroyed. They will also come after every cent he had.

Funny that there is only one billionaire out of hundreds who is not evil. Trump has been removed so he no longer counts.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2022 9:43 am

Wake up and smell the jacarandas people!

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2022 9:45 am

Speaking of narrative changes, just listening to ABC RN (for my sins):

Jebus. Time for an intervention.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 17, 2022 9:46 am

rosie says:
December 17, 2022 at 3:43 am
How to lose friends and alienate people Harry, Meghan and the unpopularity of radical progressivism

Interesting piece – more about the progressive bubble than the Harryghan train wreck.

Crossie
Crossie
December 17, 2022 9:46 am

“In a prestigious medical journal, doctors from Toronto’s Hospital for Sick Children laid out policies & procedures for administering medically assisted death to children, incl scenarios where the parents would not be informed until after the child dies…”
Yep they want to euthanize your children without your consent then maybe tell you about it afterwards.

These people have moved so far from the Hippocrates Oath that they are now into causing harm. With the above provision what is to stop these “doctors” from withholding treatment and pain relief from children to the point where they would agree to anything to stop their suffering?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 17, 2022 9:48 am

Not quite true. There are at least two in Oz doing good work behind the scenes.

“Funny that there is only one billionaire out of hundreds who is not evil”

Crossie
Crossie
December 17, 2022 9:48 am

More to my comment above, where are the churches in Canada? Why are they not screaming from the pulpits?

calli
calli
December 17, 2022 9:49 am

Roger, the Borg learned from the response to that Atlantic article.

Don’t even think about Amnesty. Don’t mention it.

Just pretend all the hyperbole and destructive behaviour of the past three years didn’t happen.

Worked for post war Japan.

custard
custard
December 17, 2022 9:49 am

“Trump has been removed “

Lol

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2022 9:51 am

Robert nailed the truth about ATO audit activity, it is going to bankrupt family businesses or drive people out of business as the final straw. From the ato audits, people are paying extra tax, penalties and interest on “interpretations” which are plainly wrong and false.

Robodebt for the middle class.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 17, 2022 9:51 am

After all, the final News­poll for this year has Albanese streets ahead of Peter Dutton as preferred prime minister, and the Labor government is 10 points up on the Coalition.

So what?
Dutton started off his first Question Time asking about the promised $275 Power Bill reduction.
4 months later, Albanese is in quicksand up to his waist and he still hasn’t answered the question.

MatrixTransform
December 17, 2022 9:52 am

‘Cookers’ are a product of the modern Left
–at the Speccy by Damian Coory

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
December 17, 2022 9:54 am

Actually until 2021 they were employed and with no criminal convictions and with legal firearms. Then they were all terminated, by state governments, from their long term employment for refusing the vax. Prospects of employment? Nil. Prospects of replacing income? Nil. About to lose everything, what would you do? But yeah, they’re religious nutters and the above had nothing to do with it. 2030 came early for them. Police know who made the missing person call but they aren’t reporting that. Seems the original call came from his people in NSW a week or more earlier, concerned about his safety. Please don’t tell me they didn’t try to find his whereabouts from phone activity because that’s routine. As is a search of social media. No journo asks these questions? No journo goes to see his people in NSW? No journo asks why their employment was terminated? No MSM journo looks at this?
No journos looking at how illiterate, innumerate kids are passing NAPLAN? Seems they’ve even stopped reporting on the missing person and are focusing only on the RWNJs.
They’re not even reporting that QPol want to change their name to The Firing Squad. QPol can barely stand up straight due to the massive pistols swinging from their hips. Wasn’t this way a fortnight ago.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 17, 2022 9:56 am

Basically, Labor told a big lie on Power Prices, and it just got them over the line at the Election.
Similar to Trump’s big lie on Building The Wall.
How’d that work out for Trump?

another ian
another ian
December 17, 2022 9:58 am

A program for your review –

“A military Twelve Days of Christmas”

https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2022/12/a-military-twelve-days-of-christmas.html

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 17, 2022 10:04 am

Shy Ted squeaks:
December 17, 2022 at 9:54 am
Actually until 2021 they were employed and with no criminal convictions and with legal firearms.
Nathan Train had a NSW Gun Licence, Gareth Train and Stacey Train did not have guns.
Then they were all terminated, by state governments, from their long term employment for refusing the vax.

How much do you get paid for telling lies?

Nathan Train suffered a Cardiac Arrest at work and was resuscitated.
He never returned to work and was terminated.
Stacey Train quit over Vax Mandates.
Gareth Train owned the property, he had quit Children’s Services many years previously.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 17, 2022 10:08 am

Introduce larger and more robust plastic bags.

As a general guideline, the lighter the more enviro friendly. Least number of atoms.
The bags that we use to get that degrade in sunlight were a good option, except the environloons didn’t like them.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 17, 2022 10:09 am

Has Norman Swan ever resurfaced?
Even Louise Milligan wasn’t reprimanded for her stuff, yet he nearly [?] got the bullet for saying Warnie and Kimberly Kitching died of COVID?

I’m thinking that he strayed too close to the truth, and that Warnie and Kitching were both COVID Vaccinated at least once.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2022 10:13 am

Ed Case at 9:51 – I agree with Special. I’m not sure it will be Spud but Albo will blow up like Whitlam at some point. Albo is not Chairman Dan and Australia is not Victoriastan.

MatrixTransform
December 17, 2022 10:15 am

and Australia is not Victoriastan

well … not yet

custard
custard
December 17, 2022 10:15 am

Trump cards sold out!

45,000 @ $99 each

132andBush
132andBush
December 17, 2022 10:16 am

Gez,
Hope you get the thing going.
Not overly familiar with all the red machine foibles.
Was in the line up earlier but now back in my header.
Will check back later.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 17, 2022 10:17 am

Primary School teachers in 1962 were paid 20 pounds/week.
4 Pounds a day.
They were unlikely to even have a Pound in their purse, let alone leaving a few on the desk

Almost certainly paid in cash, more likely to carry cash in their purses.

Tom
Tom
December 17, 2022 10:19 am

Disinformation Archipelago

Brilliant shorthand for the still largely undisturbed Silicon Valley social media monopolies. All of them bar Twitter are still colluding with the US government to end not only privacy, but the essential freedoms (of speech, religion and assembly).

That’s because the social media monopolies were designed by (and are still controlled by) sociopaths whose only talent is writing HTML code.

The biggest problem, however, is that, like the social media monopolies, more than 90% of journalists despise the public they’re supposed to be serving, the West’s institutions and its central pillar of freedom, democracy.

Crucially, journalism’s list of ethics (which are now being ignored by 90%+ of the news media anyway) do not include any test for public interest.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 17, 2022 10:21 am

But yeah, they’re religious nutters and the above had nothing to do with it

This has been dealt with, and at length. All three were neck-deep in conspiracy theories, including but not limited to that Jews and Freemasons were ruining/taking over the world with hidden dastardly agendas, and also that ASIO were sending Raytheon Learjets onto and over their property along with ‘covert assets’.

Plenty of people lost employment over the fucked-up vaccine mandates. Plenty of people did not go full wompus, and murder the jacks and their neighbours assisted by the trusty meth.

Police know who made the missing person call but they aren’t reporting that.

They don’t have to. There’s an inquest coming up where every little bit of the background will be made public. I also find it interesting that the same people who decry the MSM as full of lies and other assorted falsehoods still jump to conclusions based on what the same MSM report.

Please don’t tell me they didn’t try to find his whereabouts from phone activity because that’s routine.

Apparently, it is indeed routine. However, that won’t tell you where a person is. It will tell you where his/her phone is.

As mentioned before, the Trains aren’t special because you don’t need to be special to hide and pull a trigger. They’re just garden variety iced-up fuckwits, hiding behind a number of causes (including, but in no way limited to the righteous anti-mandate one) to be bigger fuckwits.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 17, 2022 10:22 am

From the Oz – I’ve posted the whole article.

Question of integrity: latest chapter in Brittany Higgins saga needs scrutiny Janet Albrechtsen Follow @jkalbrechtsen

12:00AM December 17, 2022

In the latest chapter of the Brittany Higgins saga, we return to where it started, deep in the Canberra swamp. The Australian newspaper revealed on Thursday that the ­Albanese government muzzled former minister Linda Reynolds, instructing her not to attend Tuesday’s mediation of Higgins’s civil claims about her alleged mistreatment at work by Reynolds and ­fellow former minister Michaelia Cash, in exchange for the commonwealth picking up the tab for her legal bills.

The Australian understands Cash was similarly silenced.

This meant the federal government could reach a multimillion-dollar settlement with Higgins in a single day, despite the government’s political conflicts in this matter, and without testing the veracity of Higgins’s claims. There had not even been a formal statement of claim filed in court, let alone detailed particulars of such a claim.
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It is ironic, given that we are often lectured to by #MeToo champions about the sins of confidential settlements, that Higgins has chosen to keep this part of her saga secret.

That secrecy notwithstanding, this latest chapter in the Higgins saga deserves as much careful scrutiny as every other part of this tawdry tale.

For a government that talks a great deal about integrity, this settlement raises very serious integrity issues. The Prime Minister, the Attorney-General and the ­Finance Minister will understand that a scandal that started life as a ticking bomb to bring down the Morrison government may be morphing into a slow-release ­poison that damages not just federal Labor but the ACT Labor government, too.

Here’s why. First, it stinks to high heaven for the Attorney-General to bully Reynolds into not telling her side of this story, with her silence being bought by a promise to pay her legal bills.

Reynolds had a story to tell. In correspondence seen by The Australian, Reynolds indicated to the government and the department that she wanted to contest Higgins’s claims against her.

Indeed, many of Higgins’s claims in this civil claim had been strongly challenged by Reynolds, and others, in the course of the criminal trial. Freely available transcripts demonstrate significant conflict about the facts, which needed to be resolved.

Why on earth then did bureaucrats in the Department of Finance, in charge of taxpayer money, ignore the fact that those who have been accused of wrongdoing by Higgins have a different story to tell?

A one-day “mediation” makes a mockery of the Legal Services Directions that require the commonwealth to behave as a model litigant.

These directions state that: “A settlement on the basis of legal principle and practice requires the existence of at least a meaningful prospect of liability being established. In particular, settlement is not to be effected merely because of the cost of defending what is clearly a spurious claim.”

What legal principle or practice did the Department of Finance, and Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus rely on to justify a multimillion-dollar settlement reached in one day that does not check the veracity of Higgins claims?

It is clear Labor applies its “believe-all-women” mantra only to women who make allegations against Coalition MPs, not to statements by Coalition MPs. Given the Attorney-General forbade Reynolds from telling her side, in return for paying her legal fees, was the department pressured into not checking the veracity of Higgins’s claims? The department knew from the criminal trial that Higgins’s version of relevant facts was dramatically different from the versions given by Reynolds, by Cash and by other witnesses such as Fiona Brown, Reynolds’s chief of staff.

Yet not only did the department take none of the normal steps to ascertain which of those competing versions were true, it didn’t bother getting witness statements from Reynolds, Cash, Brown or others to see if there were other respects in which Higgins’s version of events was contested. It raises the real prospect that this legal settlement is another chapter of the Higgins saga where politics has infected a legal process.

The likely contamination of a commonwealth legal process with partisan politics is deeply troubling. After all, in opposition, Dreyfus, Anthony Albanese and Finance Minister Katy Gallagher made statements last year before the criminal trial, supporting Higgins’s untested allegations of sexual assault.

Dreyfus, for example, applauded Higgins for exposing “the toxic culture towards women in this place at great personal cost to herself”. The then shadow attorney-general repeated Higgins’s claim that she was raped.

“Higgins is right,” he said in parliament on March 15 last year. “How strong is the rule of law if it is unable to protect a young woman working in the ministerial wing of Parliament House.”

Alas, the rule of law includes the presumption of innocence. The rule of law depends on due process too. What due process was followed here? The Labor government gagged two former Coalition ministers who are alleged of wrongdoing by Higgins, threatening to withdraw funding of legal fees if they turned up to the mediation, and oversaw a settlement of millions to someone whose claims were not verified.

What role did Dreyfus and his department and Gallagher as Finance Minister have in ensuring the Department of Finance met its obligations under the model litigant guidelines set down in the Legal Services Directions? How could the Attorney-General or his ministerial colleagues approve of this settlement in a day? Did they receive detailed briefings about the legal principles and practice from lawyers and from the department?

Concerns about the political dimension were set out in a seven-page letter written last week by Reynolds’s lawyers, Clayton Utz. In that letter dated December 9, Clayton Utz partner Dr Ashley Tsacalos advises that, under section 83 of the PBR Regulations, the Attorney-General is precluded from making decisions about approving legal assistance and making a decision to take control of the defence of Higgins because he was “involved in” the matter.

As Clayton Utz set out in their letter, by virtue of their public statements supporting Higgins, Gallagher and the Prime Minister were also “involved in” this matter, meaning any decisions taken by them would be “entirely inconsistent with the PBR Regulations”.

During the trial, an extract from an audio recording was played where Higgins’s boyfriend, David Sharaz, said they wanted the rape allegation exposed at the start of the parliamentary sitting week because he had a “friend” on the Labor side – now known to be Gallagher – who would “probe and continue it”. “So sitting week, story comes out, they have to answer questions in question time, it’s a mess for them,” Sharaz is heard saying during Higgins’s initial six-hour interview with The Project.

If the Albanese government has nothing to hide, it should welcome an investigation by the new national anti-corruption commission into this controversial settlement. That investigation must look at the process and conduct of officials within the Department of Finance, and the Attorney-General’s Department, who are charged with overseeing the application of the Legal Services Directions. It must also investigate the conflicts and political influence of politicians involved in this.

It is hard to imagine a multimillion-dollar settlement being done this way in any other Australian workplace. If the culture of Parliament House is to reflect other workplaces, that must extend to the manner in which workplace claims are investigated. Even more so because bureaucrats and government ministers who signed off on this settlement in a single day of “mediation” are using our money. Did someone just walk into this mediation with Higgins last Tuesday with a cheque book?

My question for the new federal anti-corruption commission is simple: Was taxpayer money used to pay a multimillion-dollar settlement in order to score a political win against the Coalition, using Higgins as the pawn in that endeavour?

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2022 10:24 am

well … not yet

Not sure it ever will be. Sure, all the signs are not good and the Right (for want of a better label) are neither winning the intellectual or any other arguments but I would say the Lieborals are the natural party of government at the Commonwealth level. I don’t think that is the case in Victoriastan. I cannot see the Teals around in 10 years time. As always, I may be wrong.

Johnny Rotten
December 17, 2022 10:27 am

H B Bearsays:
December 17, 2022 at 9:43 am
Wake up and smell the jacarandas people!

I prefer the frangipani. Put the fallen flowers into a bowl of water and put the bowl on the window sill with the window open. The breeze will waft the fragrance throughout the house/rooms or apartment/rooms. So easy and costs SFA.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2022 10:29 am

Brittany is like a zombie. You try to bury it and it digs its way to the surface. That is a problem if your interests require people “move forward”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 17, 2022 10:30 am

Bear:

T20 crikkit, and the BBL in particular is like popcorn chicken. It’s pretty good and you can enjoy it at times – but it’s not a rare-medium-rare steak with all the trimmings, devoured at your leisure with Jessica Alba and Scarlett Johannson sitting across from you, naked.

The latter is Test cricket.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 17, 2022 10:33 am

Almost certainly paid in cash, more likely to carry cash in their purses.
Ever heard of Bank Books?
Teachers were Salaried, paid fortnightly, credited to their Bank Accounts.
Yeah, I know you’ve been drunk for 50+ years …

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2022 10:33 am

I’m not sure it will be Spud but Albo will blow up like Whitlam at some point. Albo is not Chairman Dan and Australia is not Victoriastan.

If the Albanese/Bandt government declares a war on resource extraction, Pony Girl may pick up the mantle of de facto Opposition leader, as she did with Morrison when Elbow was Mr. Invisible.

another ian
another ian
December 17, 2022 10:33 am

“WAYNE ROOT: Confronting Evil: Here’s My Simple Challenge to Dr. Fauci, the CDC, FDA, Big Pharma & Democrats”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/wayne-root-confronting-evil-simple-challenge-dr-fauci-cdc-fda-big-pharma-democrats/

We could make a list for Oz

local oaf
December 17, 2022 10:33 am

I’m sure there were some British sovereigns in circulation too, but not as currency, either notional or actual.

I don’t think any coin of higher denomination than the Crown (5 shillings) was ever used as legal currency in Australia. IIRC from my childhood coin collecting, there were only two years of Crowns in the 1930s. 1937 & 1938 maybe?

Other than that, the Florin (2 shillings) was the highest denomination coin.

As a kid I rarely even laid eyes on a 10 bob note or a pound note. Don’t think I ever saw a 5 or 10 pound note.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2022 10:35 am

Rotten – there was a great photo of an old limestone house in South Fremantle. It was undergoing renovation, half demolished behind temporary fencing in the Perf summer heat. The frangipani plant by some old Nonna couldn’t give a shit and was just flowering away as if nothing had happened.

Angus Black
Angus Black
December 17, 2022 10:36 am

Has anyone else noticed that we no longer hear, in the mainstream press (or anywhere, for that matter) about “what’s trending on Twitter”…or the “Twitter is lighting up about…”

I guess it’s not the reliably Left/Green/Woke sewer it used to be.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2022 10:38 am

The last government the mineral industry declared war on was KRuddy and Swan. It was like the first Kuwait war. Might have happened anyway.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 17, 2022 10:39 am

To be clear, the two dead cops in Quenthland are not heroes. They were just going about their everyday stuff, and happened to be shot and killed without warning. That – despite what some of the papers say – does not a hero make.

These people, however, hit far closer to the mark (the Courier-Mail):

Local general-duties police officers formed a heavily armed extraction team to rescue their fallen colleagues, driving on to the Train family’s western Darling Downs property in the vehicle of the trio’s murdered neighbour while under fire.

Sixteen officers, directed by a sergeant from Dalby, decided not to wait for the arrival of the elite Special Emergency Response Team, who were travelling by road and helicopter, in case their colleagues were still alive.

They instead risked their own lives by travelling down the driveway while former school principals Nathaniel and Stacey Train and Nathaniel’s brother Gareth fired rifles in their direction.

Nobody left behind. It was extremely unlikely the two shot were still alive, but they went in anyway – right down the same driveway, and in the also-shot neighbour’s car. Impressive by any standard.

Mr Dare had arrived to see a second police car on fire and was shot as he attempted to call triple-0. It is understood the extraction team could not help Mr Dare and used his vehicle to drive towards the house, guns drawn, coming under fire as they did so.

They pulled their fallen colleagues into the car and drove back out to safety.

MatrixTransform
December 17, 2022 10:47 am

Not sure it ever will be

was just a wry joke … I don’t share your faith in the polity

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2022 10:53 am

was just a wry joke … I don’t share your faith in the polity

I am hopeful for some kind of Lieboral reformation at some point. Don’t ask me why. Two party politics really requires opposing views to work over any length of time.

JMH
JMH
December 17, 2022 10:54 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
December 17, 2022 at 10:22 am

From the Oz – I’ve posted the whole article.

Thanks for posting Janet’s great article, Zulu. I cancelled my subscription to The Oz years ago.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 17, 2022 11:00 am

Richard Cranium

Nathan Train suffered a Cardiac Arrest at work and was resuscitated.
He never returned to work and was terminated.

“Terminated”? Not medically retired?

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 17, 2022 11:01 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
December 17, 2022 at 10:22 am

Paragraph 1: Reynolds and Cash were free to attend Mediation, on the understanding that The Commonwealth weren’t paying their Bills if they did.
Both decided discretion was the better part of valor.

P 2: The idea of Mediation is to find agreement between the parties and free up the Court’s valuable time.
That’s what happened.

P 3, 4, 5:
Ministers act on advice given.
Clearly, the advice was to settle, $3 million is cheap, considering the issues that might surface if Reynolds is crossexamined.

P 6,7,8:
If Reynolds silence can be bought, how can you believe anything else she might say?
The rest in just mock outrage filler, here’s the conclusion:

My question for the new federal anti-corruption commission is simple: Was taxpayer money used to pay a multimillion-dollar settlement in order to score a political win against the Coalition, using Higgins as the pawn in that endeavour?

Huh?
Where’s the Political win against the Coalition?

Albanese is vindictive, Peter Dutton might have had a few problems telling a Court the basis he had for saying Higgins Rape Allegation was “he said/She said”?
Reynolds mighta had a few problems answering questions such as:
Did you ever meet with Bruce Lehrmann after you’d sacked him? and
How many times?
and
What was the purpose of those meetings?
and
Did you notarise these meetings in a Diary or inform your Department?
Scotty Morrison might have a few problems answering questions such as:
When did you first become aware that Higgins was claiming she’d been raped?
When he’s already told Parliament that he knew nothing until Higgins went public.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 17, 2022 11:02 am

Has anyone else noticed that we no longer hear, in the mainstream press (or anywhere, for that matter) about “what’s trending on Twitter”

I’m not on Twitter. Be interesting to know what is trending on it nowadays, now that Elon has leveled the playing field somewhat. My impression from blogs and YouTube is that righties tend to make an effort to “like” something, as a courtesy. Whereas lefty stuff often either doesn’t attract eyeballs, or gets lots of downchecks. There’s also been the bot-upvote problem, and purchased follower numbers, which Twitter was guilty of allowing for lefties. Wasn’t KRudd accused of buying followers? He denied it, but admitted to having spambot followers.

On that topic I was amused by the latest Lefty must-read tome.

Nolte: Jemele Hill’s Memoir Sells Only 5,034 Copies (14 Dec)

Former television host Jemele Hill released her memoir last month titled “Uphill.” The book explores Hill’s self-purported journey in overcoming racism in America and she spent significant time promoting her new work across various networks. The New York Times published more than one fawning review to condone her bravery.

Even with a title like that it isn’t selling.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 17, 2022 11:05 am

Ed is developing the capacity for wordwalls.

It’s evolving.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2022 11:06 am

Special, don’t undo your good work. Go outside and mow the lawn or something.

JC
JC
December 17, 2022 11:08 am

Has anyone else noticed that we no longer hear, in the mainstream press (or anywhere, for that matter) about “what’s trending on Twitter””

I never really noticed it before much either. Maybe it’s just me, but I tell you what, if they’re not talking about what’s trending on the Musk board, they’re on it even more than they were before even if they’re just reading, because Twitter has become suddenly more interesting. The African-American owner is frequently posting Twitter usage and it appears to be off the charts.

All eyes are on Twitter.

JC
JC
December 17, 2022 11:08 am

Whoops

The second para shouldn’t be in quotes.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 17, 2022 11:09 am

Ed Casesays:
December 17, 2022 at 10:33 am
Almost certainly paid in cash, more likely to carry cash in their purses.
Ever heard of Bank Books?
Teachers were Salaried, paid fortnightly, credited to their Bank Accounts.
Yeah, I know you’ve been drunk for 50+ years …

Cash payments were routine in certain Commonwealth government departments until well into the 1970s.

When did you cease drinking?

cohenite
December 17, 2022 11:11 am

Basically, Labor told a big lie on Power Prices, and it just got them over the line at the Election.
Similar to Trump’s big lie on Building The Wall.
How’d that work out for Trump?

It’s obvious you’re in awe of Trump crotchless but you attempt to diffuse your awe with pathetic insults. Grow up!

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 17, 2022 11:15 am

Richard Cranium

P 3, 4, 5:
Ministers act on advice given.

Try to understand the system as it is in theory at least. Ministers listen to advice given, then make executive decisions.

If they always “act on advice given”, they are an unnecessary cog in the wheel, just give all power to the bureaucrats.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 17, 2022 11:17 am

Richard Cranium

Huh?
Where’s the Political win against the Coalition?

You’re not really good on this whole politics thing, are you?

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 17, 2022 11:18 am

Here’s what it looks like:
Reynolds sacked Lehrmann with the understanding that she’d sack Higgins too, then after a short while she’d bring Lehrmann back.
Did she fill the vacancy left by Lehrmann?
I’ll bet she didn’t.
That plan fell over when Higgins said she’d been raped.

Plan B was to transfer Higgins to Cash’s office, where her life would be made so miserable that she’d quit and Reynolds could bring Lehrmann back.
That War of Attrition failed when Higgins went public.
From that moment, Lehrmann had the shelf life of a used frenchie, and Reynolds career wasn’t far behind.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 17, 2022 11:20 am

Hot and crazy matrix news.

‘Buffy’ star Sarah Michelle Gellar slams ‘extremely toxic male set’ early in career (16 Dec)

“Buffy the Vampire Slayer” star Sarah Michelle Gellar has revealed that early in her career, she had it “ingrained” in her head that all sets were “extremely toxic.” At the Wrap’s Power Women Summit on Wednesday, Gellar, 45, discussed the manipulative and misogynistic behavior prevalent in those workplaces.

Ok, yes, I can see how being followed absolutely everywhere by drooling men would be irritating.

JC
JC
December 17, 2022 11:20 am

Basically, Labor told a big lie on Power Prices, and it just got them over the line at the Election.
Similar to Trump’s big lie on Building The Wall.
How’d that work out for Trump?

Trump had to contend with law suits attempting to prevent the boarder from being fenced, you fat lesbian. Lawsuits and also limited funding because of Demonrat stonwalling all the way.

Every single attempt to transition ( no, not your version of word that applies to you) over to renewballs has been met with staggeringly higher energy prices.

The Liars party knew this and they still lied.

JC
JC
December 17, 2022 11:22 am

Eddles

Dude, you’ve been square jawed focused on the rape case for 3 months solid without taking a breath. What do you think you’ve missed that needs you to post more comments about it?

Cassie of Sydney
December 17, 2022 11:26 am

Woke up very unwell this morning with a severe migraine and decided that, to make myself feel better, I’d listen to some ABC Classical (I find classical musical soothing when I have a migraine). Well, I laughed my head off when the news came on and they led with a report about how Twitter has banned several “important journalists”, and they then had some sanctimonious homosexual Yankee NY Times spokesperson, with his posh New England drawl that reminded me of William Buckley and Gore Vidal, complain about how banning people was censorship and how utterly outrageous it was to censor people in a democracy. Well….did I laugh! These people and the media outlets they work are full of chutzpah. Not a word in the report as to why they were banned….oh no. But anyway, it was nice to laugh, and you know what, the laughter helped eased my migraine!

bespoke
bespoke
December 17, 2022 11:26 am

Sigh! Sarah Michelle Gellar was a pin up girl for conservatives back in day.

Not only for her looks.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 17, 2022 11:26 am

Hey, when everybody else stops posting excreta from Albrechtsen, Bolt, and Bettina Arndt, I’ll stop posting rebuttals.
Deal?

Christine
Christine
December 17, 2022 11:29 am

The Courier-Mail wrongly put “HEROES” on that front page.
Nor were the young officers “sacrificing”.

And that’s right: Queensland police had certainly placed the actions of the local extraction team far above those of SERT

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 17, 2022 11:31 am

Police know who made the missing person call but they aren’t reporting that.

Yes.
Because what that person does not need right now is a bunch of meth-head Train-train truthers and preppers descending on them to exact retribution.

JC
JC
December 17, 2022 11:31 am

Ed Case says:
December 17, 2022 at 11:26 am

Hey, when everybody else stops posting excreta from Albrechtsen, Bolt, and Bettina Arndt, I’ll stop posting rebuttals.
Deal?

Okay fine. Have it your way. I’m just trying to be helpful.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 17, 2022 11:32 am

Here’s why. First, it stinks to high heaven for the Attorney-General to bully Reynolds into not telling her side of this story, with her silence being bought by a promise to pay her legal bills.

Reynolds had a story to tell. In correspondence seen by The Australian, Reynolds indicated to the government and the department that she wanted to contest Higgins’s claims against her.

Follow up question: knowing this piece of bureaucratic fuckery was afoot – and presumably being aware that a pineapple was being prepared for future insertion- why did the Parliamentary Liberal Party not step in to indemnify Reynolds and Cash for costs?

My question for the new federal anti-corruption commission is simple: Was taxpayer money used to pay a multimillion-dollar settlement in order to score a political win against the Coalition, using Higgins as the pawn in that endeavour?

{Santa Voice .equals(on)} Ho Ho Ho

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 17, 2022 11:32 am

Where’s Runnybum?
Died of Covid?

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2022 11:34 am

Bags not doing the welfare check on Groogs.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2022 11:35 am

Dodgy Woodstock.

JC
JC
December 17, 2022 11:36 am

Where’s Runnybum?
Died of Covid?

Yeah, what happened to that idiot? Was he booted?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 17, 2022 11:36 am

Trump’s trading cards sold out in 12 hours- $4.5m worth! Bwa ha ha ha ha ha!
I’d prefer it to have broken the internet, but I’ll take the W. The God Emperor lives!

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 17, 2022 11:36 am

Trump had to contend with law suits attempting to prevent the boarder from being fenced, you fat lesbian. Lawsuits and also limited funding because of Demonrat stonwalling all the way.

T-rump coulda ordered the Army to build the Wall, bypassing Congress and the Courts.
He didn’t do that.
Because he never had any intention of building the wall.
All you need to know about the Republican Party:
1. Affirmative Action
2. Hate Crime Laws
3. Trump didn’t build The Wall.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 17, 2022 11:36 am

Having said the above there are some alternative fusion approaches that seem like they may work.

Eyrie, I am upset.

Battletech’s timeline says that GM had furnished a functional fusion reactor design in 2020. And this had been miniaturised to a vehicle-installable form within the following century

It’s now the end of 2022, and the world is still faffing about with how to actually do it.

WHERE ARE MY STOMPY ROBOT POWERPLANTS, GM?!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 17, 2022 11:38 am

If the Libs get in they now have perfect justification to rid the nation of every lefty quango.

Labor to abolish Administrative Appeals Tribunal (Sky News, 17 Dec)

The Labor government is abolishing the Administrative Appeals Tribunal because it’s concerned the body has been stacked with too many Liberal Party figures.

Since everything in the deep state is solid Labor voting, and totally partisan, the carnage the Libs could wreak using this casus belli would be epic.

Which of course would require something larger than mouse testicles, so I’m afraid that rules it out.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 17, 2022 11:38 am

Because he never had any intention of building the wall.

If that were true, Grigory, why did so much get done in spite of Deep State and Establishment efforts to stymie it?

And why are border states thumbing their noses at Resident Biden and his capering cavalcade of cretinosity, and getting the gaps filled themselves?

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 17, 2022 11:40 am

Yeah, what happened to that idiot? Was he booted?
Sancho hasn’t resurrected Runnybum [yet].

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 17, 2022 11:42 am

The egg_roomba died of covid.

Had his ashes spread over Falconio’s shallow grave, with sinister music playing in the background.

bespoke
bespoke
December 17, 2022 11:43 am

Dodgy Woodstock.

Impossible. Bundy rage more likely.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 17, 2022 11:43 am

Grigory is clearly feeling his gypsum again (or has been into the formaldehyde) and needs a good slapping back into place before his non-reality gets out of hand and he tries to shoot another warble fly.

Where’s TopEnder? We need to go over the HMAS Sydney vs. Kormoran incident again…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 17, 2022 11:44 am

Sancho hasn’t resurrected Runnybum [yet].

Leave that BS to Faulty and his Road-Raging acolytes, Grigs.

Sancho is not Legion (for he is not Rexy).

Makka
Makka
December 17, 2022 11:45 am

By no means an art expert BUT, my favorite Monet. Thanks db.

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