Open Thread – Weekend 7 Jan 2023


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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 7, 2023 3:53 pm

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/01/the-abc-of-paying-homage-to-stolen-land-just-not-stolen-cash-.html

From Michael Smith – more proof that the A.B.C. should have been shut down thirty years ago.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 3:53 pm

Gaetz is clever.

Gaetz comes from a rich family.
Who would self fund if primaried against.
Meaning he can do what he wants for as long as he wants.
I wouldn’t confuse clever with f-off money.

Frank
Frank
January 7, 2023 3:57 pm

Toxic trash

Is Jodie the real deal or some ALP actress like Tim the hairdresser, still can’t work it out.

miltonf
miltonf
January 7, 2023 3:59 pm

From Michael Smith – more proof that the A.B.C. should have been shut down thirty years ago.

For most of my life, the ABC has been all about undermining society and the economy. Just think of their push for unlimited abortion and Doogue trash’s comments about residents of Queenstown who wanted the Franklin dam. The ABC is built on theft- I have money lifted from my salary to keep these entitled marxists in the style to which they are accustomed.

Crossie
Crossie
January 7, 2023 3:59 pm

Vote number 16 underway for US congress speakership. I think one Republican who voted for someone else last time voted present which I think means Gaetz and Boebert can still vote present and have McCarthy win.

JC
JC
January 7, 2023 4:00 pm

Dover

I assume that 80% stat were the forces on the east. How does that discount the argument about the impact of allied bombing etc from the West?

80% of the killed or wounded was the force Germany marshaled against the Sovs, right?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 7, 2023 4:01 pm

JCsays:

January 7, 2023 at 3:45 pm

Bullshit sanchez . You recently said you used an old car tire as parts.

Nice try.
But if you think I am going to spill the entire IP for the HAL-9000.2 here, you are sadly mistaken.
It might involve a Sanyo microwave.
It might not.

Crossie
Crossie
January 7, 2023 4:02 pm

Is Rabz’s radio show on tonight?

m0nty
January 7, 2023 4:03 pm

Fittingly, McCarthy is going to be elected Speaker because the Never Kevin caucus voted “present” instead of, you know, actually doing their job.

Makka
Makka
January 7, 2023 4:04 pm

Australia will be okay for the next half century or so at least.

Well some good things have been happening for us of late.

-China reversing its zero covid policy.

-The diplomatic corps in the US and here starting to drop “let’s be friends hints”.

-China starting to buy our coal again (may lead to dropping onerous tarriffs?)

– China pivoting on it’s 3 red Line RE policies.

The US and China are at a stand off over Taiwan. US sails a guided missile destroyer through the Straits and next day China send 20+ fighters + others + ships to and over the median line. But the US isn’t backing down sending some good tactical kit to Taipei. Good.

As long as they don’t get hot in Asia and Putin keeps his nukes on a leash we may be ok. But all it takes is one crazy rogue to kick of a shitfest. EVERYONE is primed.

JC
JC
January 7, 2023 4:05 pm

Nice try.
But if you think I am going to spill the entire IP for the HAL-9000.2 here, you are sadly mistaken.
It might involve a Sanyo microwave.
It might not.

A Sydney friend is a good patent attorney. He’s really, really short though so I’m not sure if height is an issue for you.

miltonf
miltonf
January 7, 2023 4:05 pm

Remember Professor Helen Hughes? God she was awful.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 7, 2023 4:07 pm

The UK tabloid media turn to their Afghan besties for dirt on Harold – and set up the 72 virgins for the next leg of the story:

EXCLUSIVE – Taliban taunts ‘big mouth loser’ Prince Harry after he revealed he killed 25 enemies in Afghanistan: Islamists say Duke is ‘mad’ and ‘the ‘chess pieces’ now rule after you fled to your grandmother’s palace’

Molavi Nabi Jan, a Taliban official in the western Afghan city of Herat, said: ‘He’s a dirty idiot and a drunk jackal. He has destroyed all bridges behind him and is now just trying to avoid drowning in history.

‘Using the Taliban and his family is his last tool to make people talk about him. I know him very well. God left him on his own to give him a very big punishment at the end.’

Another Taliban official, Anas Haqqani, tweeted: ‘Mr. Harry! The ones you killed were not chess pieces, they were humans. They had families who were waiting for their return. Among the killers of Afghans, not many have your decency to reveal their conscience and confess to their war crimes.

‘The truth is what you’ve said. Our innocent people were chess pieces to your soldiers, military and political leaders. Still, you were defeated in that ‘game’ of white & black ‘squares’.

‘I don’t expect that the ICC [International Criminal Court] will summon you or the human rights activists will condemn you, because they are deaf and blind for you. But hopefully these atrocities will be remembered in the history of humanity.’

Personally, I wouldn’t be anywhere too close to him.
Stupid boy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 7, 2023 4:09 pm

A Sydney friend is a good patent attorney. He’s really, really short though so I’m not sure if height is an issue for you.

He can be shorter than the midget on Game of Thrones for all I care, as long as the IP for HAL9000.2 is protected.

bespoke
bespoke
January 7, 2023 4:13 pm

Gossip girls.

Johnny Rotten
January 7, 2023 4:19 pm

Flying home from France on a recent trip I noticed a rather haggard looking mum walking into the customs area with eight children all under age 10. Collecting their many suitcases, the nine of them entered the cramped customs area. A young customs official watched the large entourage in disbelief, ”Ma’am,” he said, ”do all these children and this luggage belong to you?” ”Yes, sir,” the lady said with a sigh, ”they’re all mine.” The customs agent began his interrogation ”Ma’am, do you have any weapons, contraband or drugs in your possession?” ”Sir,” she calmly answered, ”if I’d had any of those items, I would have used them by now.”

Johnny Rotten
January 7, 2023 4:21 pm

A company is only as good as the people it keeps.

– Mary Kay Ash

JC
JC
January 7, 2023 4:24 pm

– Mary Kay Ash

Rottenhead, is that one of the Ashley twins that you misspelt. Mary Kate?

bespoke
bespoke
January 7, 2023 4:36 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
January 7, 2023 4:39 pm

Lady Diana’s various infidelities amounted to about a dozen…

She didn’t go down (no pun intended) without a fight.

Crossie
Crossie
January 7, 2023 4:39 pm

And there it is, McCarthy is Speaker. Let’s see how long it takes for him to go back on the deals he had to make with the dissenters to be elected.

Zipster
Zipster
January 7, 2023 4:39 pm

Kevni McF*ckface just got his jangle over the line

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 7, 2023 4:45 pm

She didn’t go down (no pun intended) without a fight.

When she visited South America, one of the local newspapers ran a headline

“Ladies, lock up your husbands. Lady Diana Spencer is in town!”

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 7, 2023 4:46 pm

I think Carpe might be right about the Qld AOTY and his chances to win the national title.
Being First Nation it makes sense and then goes on to campaign for The Voice and promote invasion day whilst composing a new national anthem. Linda Burney is probably already making it happen.

Rabz
January 7, 2023 4:46 pm

Dover, check your email, please Squire. 🙂

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 7, 2023 4:47 pm

But if you think I am going to spill the entire IP

I think the I in “IP” is superfluous.

JC
JC
January 7, 2023 4:56 pm

Wow, so he won.

miltonf
miltonf
January 7, 2023 4:57 pm

same old shit

cohenite
January 7, 2023 4:57 pm

Some real news instead of this other BS.

King Charles made “sadistic” jibes about Prince Harry’s “real” father, the Prince reveals in his new memoir.

Harry, 38, grew up amid public speculation that his true father was Princess Diana’s former lover, Major James Hewitt.

Hazza and Jimmy.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 7, 2023 4:59 pm

Wow, so he won.

1st priority. Payback!

miltonf
miltonf
January 7, 2023 5:03 pm

Of course the ‘capitol Police’ is another establishment goon squad.

JC
JC
January 7, 2023 5:04 pm

The stat is that 80% of German casualties occurred in the East fighting the Soviets. Allied bombing probably did have an effect but I’d like to know whether his ‘prevented from being created’ takes into account of the limited resources available to German, re oil, precious metals, rubber, etc.

Perhaps, the fight on the eastern front had to be conducted in that way, whereas the western front was much different. Both the Sovs and Germany lacked the arms needed in relative terms compared to the west. Just because the Germans wasted 80% of their manpower in the east doesn’t suggest the writer is wrong about the importance of Allied actions. I don’t think losing 80% of the manpower has as much relevance to the importance of Western actions.

Megan
Megan
January 7, 2023 5:05 pm

Apologies if this has already been posted but this thread on Sussex v Cambridge has me laughing out loud.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 7, 2023 5:05 pm

Arkysays:

January 7, 2023 at 1:54 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
January 7, 2023 at 1:49 pm
If I could, I’d give you 468 upticks

..
More gaslighting.
You are the one and only individual on here who has done it, and you admitted to it.

Interesting theory.
So, when CMD Longtime Lurker turned up at 4:00 a.m. bleating about JC and, to a lesser extent, me, and insisting we be banned, I promptly delivered 50-60 upticks before 5:00 a.m.
Sounds totally plausible.

Mantaray
Mantaray
January 7, 2023 5:06 pm

Australian of the Year?

SA has a sheila nominated whose claim to fame is that she encourages people (other sheilas mainly) to be fat slobs: to be proud of their rolls of flab and their death-wishes. Yeah…this Brumfitt (real name: no Charles Dickens grade invention) chick has made her multiple millions by urging everyone to stuff themselves with Krispy Kreme donuts and then drop dead 25 years earlier than the average: to be proud , and not ashamed.

How do I know this? Well last month whilst hiking about in the mountains I spent a rainy night in a much-appreciated hut….https://khuts.org/index.php/huts/kosciuszko-national-park/circuits-hut-knp….and after the clouds cleared and the temp had dropped to -5 (this on the evening 8th/9th of December FFS!) sat in front of a roaring fire and found an article in the wood-box kindling about Ms Brumfitt!

What is it with these morons and South Oz?

Megan
Megan
January 7, 2023 5:06 pm

Sorry, I cannot get the linky thing to work.

Fingers crossed…try this.

https://twitter.com/AndyRileyish/status/1611270372548136960

JMH
JMH
January 7, 2023 5:09 pm

Crossiesays:
January 7, 2023 at 4:39 pm

And there it is, McCarthy is Speaker. Let’s see how long it takes for him to go back on the deals he had to make with the dissenters to be elected.

Weren’t the “deals” supposed to be in writing?

calli
calli
January 7, 2023 5:12 pm

Online debate over whether teepees are ‘inappropriate’ cubbies for caucasian kids

Okay.

Provided no and I mean NO child from a non-paleface background ever uses a blanket over a table or a treehouse.

Because cultural appropriation.

calli
calli
January 7, 2023 5:16 pm

Mmmwwwahahahha!

False Flag Upticks! We always suspected it would end here.

Here’s a tip. Don’t look. It’s the Uptick Abyss. It will look back at you.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

when CMD Longtime Lurker turned up at 4:00 a.m. bleating about JC and, to a lesser extent, me, and insisting we be banned

The great re-framer won’t be “going to the tape” on this one.

Y’all just gotta trust that there’s a first time for everything and that Sancho of the upticks has for once reported something accurately.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Someone who dissed on me got lotsa upticks….. mmmm… * snaps fingers * yeah… those upticks were put up by me, as a joke, honest injun they were.

Johnny Rotten
January 7, 2023 5:17 pm

It took 15 ballots, a midnight vote and a near-fistfight in the hallowed chambers of Congress, but Kevin McCarthy has now been elected Speaker of the House of Representatives.

Through a combination of cajoling, arm-twisting and finger-jabbing, the California congressman succeeded in convincing enough of the 20 holdout Republicans to support him – or at least not explicitly oppose his bid for the Speaker’s gavel.

Getting those recalcitrant Republicans on board, however, was not an easy job. Mr McCarthy has had to make promises, and key concessions, that limit his own power and increase the influence of conservatives in the House of Representatives.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64194129

Pogria
Pogria
January 7, 2023 5:19 pm

Someone has to say it;

Prince Harry’s frostbitten penis would have been ‘hard, cold and bloodless’, says expert.

Harry’s dick is just like his missus.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 7, 2023 5:22 pm

Weren’t the “deals” supposed to be in writing?

“Once we get in we’ll just change it all.”

Makka
Makka
January 7, 2023 5:25 pm

Provided no and I mean NO child from a non-paleface background ever uses a blanket over a table or a treehouse.

Or a kettle, bottle, car, use a bridge , plane etc.

calli
calli
January 7, 2023 5:27 pm

Tea sets are out too.

Or maybe not.

This thing is not child’s play after all.

calli
calli
January 7, 2023 5:33 pm

Mr McCarthy has had to make promises, and key concessions, that limit his own power and increase the influence of conservatives in the House of Representatives.

So what. They also promise to serve the people of the US. He won’t do any of that either.

I wonder what his little peccadillo is? Probably not Ben and Jerrys.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 7, 2023 5:33 pm

SA has a sheila nominated whose claim to fame is that she encourages people (other sheilas mainly) to be fat slobs: to be proud of their rolls of flab and their death-wishes. Yeah…this Brumfitt (real name: no Charles Dickens grade invention) chick has made her multiple millions by urging everyone to stuff themselves with Krispy Kreme donuts and then drop dead 25 years earlier than the average: to be proud , and not ashamed.

So munty outs himself. munty brumfitt.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 5:35 pm

Some of these reported deals need the House to vote on them.
Some of these reported deals need the Senate to vote on them too.
As of now, apart from the funding of primaries there is nothing done.

JMH
JMH
January 7, 2023 5:39 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
January 7, 2023 at 5:22 pm
Weren’t the “deals” supposed to be in writing?

“Once we get in we’ll just change it all.”

That’s probably how it will play but one of the conditions I read is that it will take just one vote to remove this rhino!

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 7, 2023 5:41 pm

I wonder what his little peccadillo is? Probably not Ben and Jerrys.
Huh?
Ben and Jerry are Poofs, so is McCarthy.
This isn’t in dispute.

JC
JC
January 7, 2023 5:44 pm

Ben and Jerry are Poofs, so is McCarthy.
This isn’t in dispute.

But is McCarthy a spook flamer?

Makka
Makka
January 7, 2023 5:45 pm

Had, say, the losses been half of those, the Germans would have had about 100-150 more divisions still in the field.

Maybe not that many db. But it was actually a close run thing. Reading “Intrepid”, the allies used the Balkans to occupy and delay Hitler’s kick off of Barbarossa by about a month-6 weeks(they knew he was going in via Ultra) Just so that the Wehrmacht would encounter the full Russian winter slap bang as they were hyper extended deep inside the USSR. To within 30km of Moscow and very close to conquering Leningrad. 6 weeks earlier at Stalingrad might have made all the difference.

So I would add that deception and subterfuge played a yuuuuge part in the Allied victory, as much as the Soviet body count.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 7, 2023 5:46 pm

This O’Brien guy is just Whitewashing Bomber Command and trying to rewrite LendLease out of history.
So many Russians joined the Wehrmacht that the Soviet Union woulda collapsed without LendLease.
So why did the Americans do it?

JMH
JMH
January 7, 2023 5:46 pm

Just read feelthebern’s post at 5.35 pm

Hmmm – have the America Firsts just shot their feet off?

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 7, 2023 5:49 pm

But is McCarthy a spook flamer?
Well, he’s keen to give Zelenskyy whatever he asks for, so, probably that’s a Yes.

285

JMH
JMH
January 7, 2023 5:52 pm

Re. the McCarthy speakership, all I can hope is that the 20 true Americans have a plan.

P
P
January 7, 2023 6:06 pm

Devotion and Duty: Belgium’s WWI Catholic King
By Catholic News Service -January 6, 2023

Albert’s attention to his faith did not diminish in the postwar reconstruction. He reportedly once said: “Every time society has distanced itself from the Gospel, which preached humility, fraternity and peace, the people have been unhappy, because the pagan civilisation of ancient Rome, which they wanted to replace it with, is based only on pride and the abuse of force.”

The King died during a rock-climbing accident on 17 February 1934. He was 58.
“The grief of the Catholics all over the world over King Albert’s death is deeply felt because, being faithful to his country and to himself, he was also faithful to God,” said an obituary in a Catholic magazine of the time.

“Never was he accused of compromising his conscience, never was his loyalty questioned.”- – CNS

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 6:07 pm

Hmmm – have the America Firsts just shot their feet off?

Time will tell.
Any hot take that includes anything Senate related, throw in the bin.
Until the House votes on their stuff, nothing is in the bank.

And who really knows about the GOP stuff.
After being embarrassed like this, does anyone think McCarthy & the GOP “leadership” will stand by the primary funding agreement?
McCarthy is as vindictive as Biden.

JC
JC
January 7, 2023 6:09 pm

Eddles

How would you word that? Is it flamer spook or a spook flamer? What’s best in your considered opinion?

JC
JC
January 7, 2023 6:10 pm

Bern

Other than his RINO bearings, is there anything on the personality side the holdouts don’t like about McCarthy? Do you know?

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 6:12 pm

McCarthy & Luntz are besties.
McCarthy sublets from Luntz while he’s in DC.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 7, 2023 6:15 pm

I should be thinking of my blogging: as permanently in opposition to something or someone. Without wanting to descend into Reply Guy mediocrity like the sea-lions over at the Cat, that way of thinking tends to produce my best stuff. Anger is an energy, and that is the meatsuit I want to inhabit.

When are we going to see the new, angry, m0nty=fa? Apparently not today.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 6:16 pm

It shouldn’t surprise that Jeffries is a poor speaker.
He’s Wall Street lawyer, not a civil rights lawyers (even though his resume says he spent 18months working at one of those kind of firms).

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 6:20 pm

Other than his RINO bearings, is there anything on the personality side the holdouts don’t like about McCarthy? Do you know?

Dunno.
Quite amazing how all the millions that gets spent on political analysis, no one picked McCarthy getting put through the wringer.
Shows that the original dozen hold outs could keep their mouths shut.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 6:22 pm

I look forward to hearing the story of where they all met to put this plan together.
If there were any real journos left in DC they’d been making the calls to work it all out.

cohenite
January 7, 2023 6:23 pm

and that is the meatsuit I want to inhabit.

And does the meatsuit have a little artificial dick hanging off it.

Meatsuit. Did dickless really say that? That is fu.king weird.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 7, 2023 6:24 pm

Well, Kevin likely got his start as a Spook by being a Flamer, so I’d say
Flamer Spook is the kosher nomenclature.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 6:37 pm

How does Scalise keep his job as whip after this ?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
January 7, 2023 6:37 pm

Craig Foster is a Northern Rivers of NSW. boy, grew up and went to school in Lismore and Craig reckons his brother Paul was the better soccer player in the family.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
January 7, 2023 6:45 pm

This is a MIRV^ Comment about McCarthy vote for Oh Come On, Johnny Rotten, and dover.
(^ = Multiple Independently-targetable Reply Vehicle)

Oh come on says: January 7, 2023 at 3:05 pm

Perhaps the UK will be maintained as strategic territory, aka Airstrip One.

As we enter the murky waters of 2023, OCO’s trying to reassure us that Nineteen Eighty Four will be coming true in every way shape and specific form? Thaaanks OCO. Don’t know what we’d do without you. Hope, I suppose.

January 7, 2023 at 3:12 pm

Gaetz is highlighting this by showing he doesn’t even need to vote against McCarthy for him to fail to cross the line.

It’s all show-boating. Gaetz was part of a voting bloc in which he could organise the others to vote against McCarthy, so for the blockade to continue without him is hardly an independent decision of the other holdouts in the manner that this description suggests.

J-Rot, 5:17 pm:

It took 15 ballots, a midnight vote and a near-fistfight in the hallowed chambers of Congress, but Kevin McCarthy has now been elected Speaker of the House of Representatives.

I know this falls into the category of “the wun wot got away wuz hyuuuuuge” but don’t ya kind of wish it had taken another 2 voting rounds? The rhetorical delight of an American “Kevin One Seven” would have been…. *parts fingers in air* buono.

dover0beach says: January 7, 2023 at 5:01 pm

Poso is saying Trump had a word with Gaetz.

Could be showboating on top of showboating. After extracting concessions and serviette contracts already, who’s to say Gaetz wasn’t going to fold in that round anyhow?
Mar-a-Lago Puppetmaster or just master of puppet theatre? Gaetz could even admit such an intention but the Trump faction wouldn’t believe it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 7, 2023 6:46 pm

It’s all bullshit.
The Motion to vacate still has to be voted on, the 20 rebels aren’t going to find another 198 votes, so it’s business as usual.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 6:49 pm

Trump was a bit player in this.
Serious people don’t call MJT on her mobile expecting it to be passed to a GOP hold-out.
(I’m assuming people saw that footage/photos).

Rabz
January 7, 2023 6:51 pm

The nayzees could never have conquered the soviet union, no matter how many hypotheticals one might choose to indulge in.

The Balkans campaign wasn’t down to the allies, it was down to the Italians’ staggering incompetence. The Ozzies’ adventures in Greece and Crete can be read about in the AWM’s PDFs. The AIF came up against the LSSAH in Greece, who reportedly treated the former’s captives well.

Given the massive strategic and tactical blunders that subsequently occurred in the first few months of Barbarossa, the six weeks delay was ultimately irrelevant. As for the southern campaign in 1942 (Case Bleu?), the nayzees massively overextended themselves. Which anyone looking at a map could have predicted – except of course, a certain Austrian corporal.

WW2 was one massive unnecessary epochal disaster – caused of course by an even more massive unnecessary disaster. Featuring a hitherto unimagined industrial slaughter of both civilians and combatants, before culminating in a personal visitation by Satan himself (twice).

The West would never have been able to recover from WW1, let alone the additional depredations wrought upon it by the encore performance 20 years later.

Yet here we are, attempting to deal (very poorly) with the consequences over a century later.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 6:52 pm

Does anyone think that if Trump had any inkling that this ambush was going to happen that he could keep his ill-disciplined trap shut.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 7, 2023 6:57 pm

Online debate over whether teepees are ‘inappropriate’ cubbies for caucasian kids

The assumption that teepees were unique too, as opposed to popularly associated with, North American Indians is presumptuous at least.

A bunch of branches arranged in a conical formation to support each other and draping skins over it would seem to be a likely obvious, and therefore commonly repeated, solution to retreating from the elements. If invented also in Europe or Asia but abandoned as their civilisations progressed is it really fair to say it is the distinct property of American Indians?

Hunting with spears and painting caves was done in Europe Millenia ago – they just progressed beyond it. But it is still part of their heritage. Should we try to understand the development of European cultures but erase the spears, paintings, animal sacrifice, skin clothes, tribes etc because they are now deemed the property of cultures that ground to a halt in the Stone Age?

Should we demand American Indians do not depict their ancestors riding ponies because it was an innovation introduced by the Spanish.

The fact only Westerners complain about this nonsense should be a clue that it id a ridiculous cultural affectation, not an essential indisputable foundation of humanity.

cohenite
January 7, 2023 6:57 pm

Sh.t hitting fan in mechico after cartel leader’s son arrested as fop for biden’s visit to border. Obvious cia/fbi/doj working with, that is on payroll of the cartels. Jesse Watters has a good segment on his program today. Brave stuff. Almost as brave as hewitt’s brat bragging about his muzzie kills.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 7, 2023 7:02 pm

Rabz’ music show is up. Shiny!

Zipster
Zipster
January 7, 2023 7:03 pm

Meatsuit. Did dickless really say that? That is fu.king weird.

I would have thought fatsuit was more on point but….

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 7:06 pm

There are some clowns in the GOP universe.
Hard to go past Hannity as the biggest clown though.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
January 7, 2023 7:08 pm

feelthebern says: January 7, 2023 at 6:52 pm

Does anyone think that if Trump had any inkling that this ambush was going to happen that he could keep his ill-disciplined trap shut.

Hey now, it says right here in this hastily-arranged DoJ ruling, the president can legally declassify things just by talking about them…. LOL.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 7, 2023 7:09 pm

Molavi Nabi Jan, a Taliban official in the western Afghan city of Herat, said: ‘He’s a dirty idiot and a drunk jackal. He has destroyed all bridges behind him and is now just trying to avoid drowning in history.

That’s now two points where I reckon the Taliban are pretty much right. It’s a tad unnerving.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
January 7, 2023 7:13 pm

Cohenite, referring you to…
Cassie of Sydney says: January 7, 2023 at 12:05 pm

Harry was born in 1984 and Diana and Hewett’s affair didn’t begin until 1986.

The visual similarity was strong but if the dates don’t fit you must acquit.

bespoke
bespoke
January 7, 2023 7:18 pm

Hard to go past Hannity as the biggest clown though.

True, no other person personifies party sycophant the he.

cohenite
January 7, 2023 7:20 pm

Harry was born in 1984 and Diana and Hewett’s affair didn’t begin until 1986.

Says who? Anyway royal sperm can travel in time.

The visual similarity was strong but if the dates don’t fit you must acquit.

It’s more than visual similarity, they’re both idiots who root other idiots.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 7, 2023 7:29 pm

The visual similarity was strong but if the dates don’t fit you must acquit.

As noted, the visual similarity is uncanny – especially the shape of the smile and the nose in profile.

I know it is probably easy enough to create an impression of familial resemblance by carefully selecting a few photos that fit and rejecting the thousands that don’t, but the similarity really seems to be in features, not shot angles.

As for the claim that Diana and Hewitt were not involved at the time Harry was born – are we to take his, and the late her’s words for it. Even at the time there would have been strong reasons to divert attention.

I personally don’t care if he was sired by the equerry. He was treated and raised as Charles’ son. In every other way (other than genetic) he was raised as such and I think genetics far less distinctive than upbringing.

Unless Hewitt had a dickless pussy-whipped gene.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
January 7, 2023 7:36 pm

This is epic. And the responses are hilarious!

calli
calli
January 7, 2023 7:38 pm

Everyone knows tee pees were invented by Marshwiggles.

rosie
rosie
January 7, 2023 7:40 pm

Indeed Calli.
Tom Baker was a delightful marshwiggle.
I always feel like he is playing Prince Charles.

rosie
rosie
January 7, 2023 7:41 pm

Now watching the BBC LWW.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 7, 2023 7:48 pm

And the responses are hilarious!

The thing most toxic to the elites is mockery.

Their one real power is intimidation, not truth, not conviction, not even tradition. They can only appeal to fear. And laughter dissolves that away in an instant.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 7, 2023 7:52 pm

Tom Baker was a delightful marshwiggle.
I always feel like he is playing Prince Charles.

If he went to his coronation with a ridiculously long scarf and a floppy broad brimmed hat, I’d be a devout monarchist.

The coins would be great, but the $5 note would be worth more than a tenner.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
January 7, 2023 7:53 pm

Yes, MoLo, they must be mocked. I do so at every opportunity.

calli
calli
January 7, 2023 7:55 pm

Puddleglum is my favourite Narnia character. Valiant and defiant in the face of hopelessness.

Diogenes
Diogenes
January 7, 2023 7:55 pm

As for the southern campaign in 1942 (Case Bleu?), the nayzees massively overextended themselves. Which anyone looking at a map could have predicted

IIRC the German Quartermaster General predicted they could advance and be logistically supported for something like 950 miles (kilometres?). They managed to get 15 past that.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 7, 2023 7:56 pm

MoLo.

LOL!

calli
calli
January 7, 2023 7:56 pm

Aaaand…he gets a podium too.

“Life isn’t all fricasseed frogs and eel pie.”

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 7, 2023 8:04 pm

“Life isn’t all fricasseed frogs and eel pie.”

Damn, Calli. It is still dinner time for some of us.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 7, 2023 8:04 pm

Online debate over whether teepees are ‘inappropriate’ cubbies for caucasian kids

I guess leaning two sheets of corrugated iron up against the fence and calling it a humpy-cubbie isn’t on either?

rosie
rosie
January 7, 2023 8:06 pm

Mine too Calli.
What he says when he frees Prince Rilian is brilliant.
Though I do like Mr and Mrs Beaver.

JC
JC
January 7, 2023 8:14 pm

feelthebern says:
January 7, 2023 at 6:52 pm

Does anyone think that if Trump had any inkling that this ambush was going to happen that he could keep his ill-disciplined trap shut.

Err, no.

rickw
rickw
January 7, 2023 8:16 pm

Molavi Nabi Jan, a Taliban official in the western Afghan city of Herat, said: ‘He’s a dirty idiot and a drunk jackal. He has destroyed all bridges behind him and is now just trying to avoid drowning in history.

Dude is accurate! Herat is one of my favourite places in Afghanistan. Just don’t ever consider using the toilet at the airport, not even for a pee! When I was there I stayed in some old outpost fortress thing.

Diogenes
Diogenes
January 7, 2023 8:20 pm

I got to that number by halving casualties and dividing by 10K which is about the size of a WW2 division.

Russian divisions for most of the war were typically smaller than that, most divisions were under 8k. A sizeable number only @5-6k, especially those divisions of Chuikovs 62nd army at Stalingrad, BEFORE the battle started.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 7, 2023 8:21 pm

Beery, that’s hilarious.

cohenite
January 7, 2023 8:27 pm

This is epic. And the responses are hilarious!

Yeah; and Mark Dice did his walk on the promenade and 90% of the sheeple had not heard of Jan 6; the 10% thought, correctly, it was a demorat operation.

But there is a large pool of sheeple who accept the swamp media narrative. I had a meet with 2 ex girlfriends the other day, both PhDs, who watch nothing but the abc; and it was an insurrection for them and dozens of cops were Fricasséed, worse thing since Thermopylae etc. They’ll vote for the Voice too.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 7, 2023 8:30 pm

World
William, Harry and Britain’s long history of royal sibling spats
Nigel Jones
Princes William and Harry (Credit: Getty images)

Nigel Jones

6 January 2023

5:02 AM

Fraternal relations rarely run entirely smoothly. But the degree of animosity revealed in reports of the physical clash between Princes William and Harry in the latter’s book Spare is nothing new in the turbulent history of Britain’s royals. In fact, the alleged spat between the brothers pales in comparison to the murderous hatreds between past regal siblings.

The bad blood began in 1077 when the two younger sons of William the Conqueror, coincidentally called William and Henry, emptied the contents of a chamber pot over the head of their elder brother Robert. So furious was Robert by his father’s refusal to punish his brothers for the prank that he launched an armed rebellion against him.

When William the Conqueror died, he left Normandy to Robert, but gave England’s crown to William who became King William II, known as Rufus. Henry had to be content with a bequest of money to buy himself land. The fragile arrangement did not last. In 1100 King William Rufus was killed by an arrow while hunting in the New Forest and Henry, ignoring Robert’s claim to the crown, lost no time in seizing the throne for himself.

Robert’s resentment festered. In 1106, his efforts to dethrone his brother provoked Henry into launching a full blown invasion of Normandy. He defeated and captured Robert at the Battle of Tinchebray and imprisoned his brother for the rest of his long life, until it ended in 1134 at Cardiff Castle. Robert’s beautiful tomb effigy can still be seen in Gloucester Cathedral.

In the 15th century, fraternal rivalry once more sparked full-scale warfare when King Edward IV fell out with his younger brother George, Duke of Clarence. Even though both brothers belonged to the same Yorkist faction during the Wars of the Roses, Clarence was envious of his brother’s rise and joined the opposing Lancastrians.

Though apparently reconciled, Clarence’s jealousy continued and he eventually accused Edward of witchcraft. The King reacted ruthlessly: Clarence was arrested, locked in the Tower of London, and sentenced to death. Given a choice of method he famously demanded to be drowned in a butt of Malmsey wine. He was buried in Tewkesbury Abbey.

More recent royal fraternal discord may have grown less lethal but has been just as vitriolic. In 1936, Edward VIII, like Prince Harry, resigned his royal responsibilities to wed an American divorcee. His younger brother George VI, Harry’s great-grandfather, sent Edward into exile, refused to take his phone calls and steadfastly resisted granting his wife Mrs Wallis Simpson the title of Royal Highness.

Though Harry is unlikely to reflect on it, this story of bickering brothers proves that there can be even worse things in royal life than a ripped off necklace.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
January 7, 2023 8:35 pm

At 1:36 in this JRE clip is possibly the funniest thing I’ll hear today.
https://youtu.be/0dqD-MetEnc?t=74

“…and someone named…”
LOL.

That’s either the smoothest deadpan delivery ever, or he really didn’t recognise her.

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 7, 2023 8:41 pm

Cats and Kittehs, my heart is dark.
I don’t know why, I have a Kitteh but I feel like I am having an attack. Like a broken heart.
Rabz, get in here

Zipster
Zipster
January 7, 2023 8:48 pm
rickw
rickw
January 7, 2023 8:49 pm

Cloive must be back here. VH-VQN on the ground.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 7, 2023 8:58 pm

Fat Clive has his own call sign? Must have been too much Christmas turkey.

Zipster
Zipster
January 7, 2023 9:00 pm

The thing most toxic to the elites is mockery.

dont kid yourself they have been ignoring it for 50 years

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 7, 2023 9:07 pm

MoLo.

Heh.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 7, 2023 9:08 pm

Some talk earlier of Adam Goodes being on the $5 note.

He’s already on the $2 coin.

John H.
John H.
January 7, 2023 9:11 pm

Zipstersays:
January 7, 2023 at 9:00 pm
The thing most toxic to the elites is mockery.

dont kid yourself they have been ignoring it for 50 years

Yep, being thick skinned is part of the job.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 7, 2023 9:12 pm

Some talk earlier of Adam Goodes being on the $5 note.

“Yeah, I bought a coffee. Didn’t get any change out of a sook.”

Jorge
Jorge
January 7, 2023 9:17 pm

‘He’s a dirty idiot and a drunk jackal

Standard Muslim view of every westerner.

Kev
Kev
January 7, 2023 9:17 pm

How would Harry know how many people he killed in Afghanistan?
He flew a gunship….they have cameras

miltonf
miltonf
January 7, 2023 9:19 pm

My muslim friend’s a total piss head

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 7, 2023 9:33 pm

miltonfsays:

January 7, 2023 at 9:19 pm

My muslim friend’s a total piss head

Mo’ hammered?

Rabz
January 7, 2023 9:37 pm

I have a Kitteh but I feel like I am having an attack. Like a broken heart.

That makes two of us, BB.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 7, 2023 10:01 pm

That makes two of us, BB.

Gentlemen, stop feeling sorry for yourselves.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 7, 2023 10:05 pm

On this mild Saturday evening, it behooves us all to remember that bitches be crazy.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 7, 2023 10:10 pm

My muslim friend’s a total piss head

I liked this one.

‘May Allah destroy you’ shouts ex-pub landlord as he’s sentenced for funding Islamic State (5 Jan)

A former pub landlord who used Government Covid loans to help send £25k to Islamic State terrorists shouted “May Allah destroy you” as he was jailed for 12 years

.

This guy owned a pub? That’s fun. I’m sure ISIS just loves pubs!
Maybe he just served non-alcoholic beverages but.

Frank
Frank
January 7, 2023 10:15 pm

On this mild Saturday evening, it behooves us all to remember that bitches be crazy.

Amen to that. I watched a woman pushing a pram down the main street in town yesterday as she negotiated a relationship breakdown over her mobile. Imperviousness to shame, vindictiveness and a good set of lungs made sure anyone in a 100m radius was privy to the whole sordid deal. The poor bastard. She repeatedly informed him “I’m going to make sure everyone knows all about it”. Mission accomplished madam.

Zipster
Zipster
January 7, 2023 10:23 pm

On this mild Saturday evening, it behooves us all to remember that bitches be crazy.

preach it brother

MatrixTransform
January 7, 2023 10:24 pm

remember that bitches be crazy

word

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 7, 2023 10:28 pm

This guy owned a pub? That’s fun. I’m sure ISIS just loves pubs!

Selling grog to unbelievers is acceptable, as long as its raising funds for the cause.

cohenite
January 7, 2023 10:30 pm
132andBush
132andBush
January 7, 2023 10:40 pm

Amen to that. I watched a woman pushing a pram down the main street in town yesterday as she negotiated a relationship breakdown over her mobile. Imperviousness to shame, vindictiveness and a good set of lungs made sure anyone in a 100m radius was privy to the whole sordid deal.

Do you live in Walgett?

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 7, 2023 10:42 pm

Yeah, course he ain’t.
You idiot.

cohenite
January 7, 2023 10:59 pm

I know you must be disappointed crotchless so I’ll overlook your little tanty.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 7, 2023 11:20 pm

Daily Mail.

Would YOU get a ‘vampire facial’ for your vagina? Four of the strangest intimate treatments available to women in 2023

Vampire facial for your vagina is said to treat bladder leaks and vaginal dryness
London cosmetic gynaecologists uses injections of blood to help women orgasm
Lasers are used to treat prolapse and urinary incontinence by burning the skin 
FDA warns against ‘deceptive health claims’ of lasers for vaginal rejuvenation

rickw
rickw
January 7, 2023 11:21 pm

I have a Kitteh but I feel like I am having an attack. Like a broken heart.
That makes two of us, BB.

WTF is wrong with you blokes?!

Them’s marching orders not moaning orders!! Get on with things!!

Frank
Frank
January 7, 2023 11:21 pm

Do you live in Walgett?

Hobart CBD.

rickw
rickw
January 7, 2023 11:26 pm

Watching dudes here kite surfing. I started to learn in PNG, brought some used gear, then freaking work got in the way! I should have brought it with me, except the spar has a slow leak which may result in some alarming/nasty jellyfishing which is definitely not good for a beginner!

rickw
rickw
January 7, 2023 11:28 pm

FDA warns against ‘deceptive health claims’ of lasers for vaginal rejuvenation

I tried to warn munty about this! Don’t do it! It’ll wreck your vagina!

rickw
rickw
January 7, 2023 11:30 pm

Selling grog to unbelievers is acceptable, as long as its raising funds for the cause.

I think the 911 scum spent quite a bit of time in bars in the name of blending in….

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

A former pub landlord who used Government Covid loans to help send £25k to Islamic State terrorists shouted “May Allah destroy you” as he was jailed for 12 years

This guy owned a pub? That’s fun. I’m sure ISIS just loves pubs!
Maybe he just served non-alcoholic beverages but.

Most pubs in UK don’t make much money & are brewery lease, the financial bar to entry isn’t very high.

However things really are different in the UK, as BoN’s linked article say he was doing a ten-year stretch for rape & was out on ‘licence’ when he was the landlord of the pub (in Finsbury Park, for those who know London)
A criminal conviction pretty much rules out anyone from even working in a pub here, never mind having been sentenced to a ten year stay at Club Ironbar.

rickw
rickw
January 8, 2023 1:10 am

Playing stupid games, winning prizes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPQ4-k54CcE

rickw
rickw
January 8, 2023 1:11 am

Struggling to understand exactly what is going on here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Orb3y-4GdvY

Tom
Tom
January 8, 2023 4:01 am
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 8, 2023 4:31 am

Thanks Tom.

rosie
rosie
January 8, 2023 5:59 am

Namouz was on licence from a ten-year sentence for raping a woman handed out in 2014 when he was managing a pub in Finsbury Park. He set up the barbers in Olympia after his release in September 2019

He got his conviction while a pub manager, post release he ran a barber shop.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 8, 2023 6:13 am

Things might be about to get messy in Mexico, if any Cats are looking to be there soon.

Sinaloa drug cartel issues terrifying 72-hour ultimatum to president as violence rages (7 Jan)

The Sinaloa drug cartel has issued the Mexican government a terrifying ultimatum to release the son of El Chapo within 72 hours – or else suffer utter chaos.

Ovidio Guzmán-López, 32, alleged to be a leader of his father’s former cartel, was captured in Culiacán and flown to Mexico City on Thursday. Violence immediately flared up in response to the arrest, with at least 29 people killed so far.

By utter chaos I take it to mean they’ll go after people and places not usually threatened by the cartels. Tourists would be a likely target to put pressure on the authorities.

TrevorG
TrevorG
January 8, 2023 6:32 am

Bruce of Newcastle says:
January 8, 2023 at 6:13 am

Things might be about to get messy in Mexico, if any Cats are looking to be there soon.
By utter chaos I take it to mean they’ll go after people and places not usually threatened by the cartels. Tourists would be a likely target to put pressure on the authorities.

Without the support of the populace, the cartels will never win against a determined government.

However, the damage they can inflict in the battle can bring down a few ministers if not the government itself.
Either way, it’s a mess, as you said.

Dot
Dot
January 8, 2023 6:33 am

Do you live in Walgett?

Who hasn’t!?

The heart of Australia.

Some cynics might say, a mouth so to speak…

bespoke
bespoke
January 8, 2023 6:52 am
Dot
Dot
January 8, 2023 7:14 am

Ilhan Omar us unintentionally hilarious.

US public debt is nearly 1/3 of global GDP and spending cuts “hold the whole world hostage”. US public debt is seventeen times our GDP. Who is crowding out whom?

There is a good argument for mandatory private sector experience for elected representatives, you think the age rules on Senators, Representatives and the President would do so, but unfortunately no.

P
P
January 8, 2023 7:43 am

The Epiphany of the Lord – 8th January 2023

THE IMPORTANCE OF HOLY DAYS OF OBLIGATION
by Eric Banecker
1 . 6 . 23

calli
calli
January 8, 2023 7:50 am

Posted without comment

Best version yet

Thanks Tom. So full of goodness it was hard to pick two. (Rome came very close).

miltonf
miltonf
January 8, 2023 7:53 am

Cracking good read for Sunday morning50 years of lies about Europe

Johnny Rotten
January 8, 2023 7:54 am

Kevin McCarthy Wins – But at the Cost of the Nation

From Armstrong Economics –

“Kevin McCarthy finally won the position of the speaker to the detriment of the entire nation for we will see business as usual on Capitol Hill, which is probably needed by our model to ensure the decline and fall of the United States by 2044. Congressman Mike Rogers lunged to attack Matt Gaetz on the house floor after he refused to vote for McCarthy merely saying “Present.” Gaetz is actually fighting for something he believes in, Draining the Swamp. Rogers wants the status quo – politics as usual. Kevin McCarthy offers no change whatsoever and being from California, well I think they should just separate and declare their own republic. California is no longer the land of the free and home of the brave from the days of Ronald Reagan. They refuse even to define what is a woman. They started a national crime wave of shoplifting and their streets are overpopulated with illegal aliens. Friends I had in California are leaving all the time. Pelosi, who destroyed San Francisco, is looking to retire to Florida in Naples with John Boehner.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/kevin-mccarthy-wins-but-at-the-cost-of-the-nation/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Dot
Dot
January 8, 2023 7:59 am

our model to ensure the decline and fall of the United States by 2044

Unmitigated tripe.

Johnny Rotten
January 8, 2023 8:00 am

Muldoon lived alone in the Irish countryside with only a pet dog for company. One day the dog died, and Muldoon went to the parish priest and asked “Father, my dog is dead. Could ya’ be saying’ a mass for the poor creature?”

Father Patrick replied “I’m afraid not. We cannot have services for an animal in the church. But there are some Baptists down the lane, and there’s no tellin’ what they believe. Maybe they’ll do something for the creature”.

Muldoon said “I’ll go right away Father. Do ya’ think $5,000 is enough to donate to them for the service?”

Father Patrick exclaimed “Sweet Mary, Mother of Jesus! Why didn’t ya tell me the dog was Catholic!?”…………

Indolent
Indolent
January 8, 2023 8:00 am
Johnny Rotten
January 8, 2023 8:02 am

The secret of business is to know something that nobody else knows.

– Aristotle Onassis

Indolent
Indolent
January 8, 2023 8:22 am

BOMBSHELL DOCS REVEAL COVID-19 COVER-UP GOES STRAIGHT TO THE TOP

A BOMBSHELL new report claims shows that the Department of Defense – meaning the Pentagon – controlled the COVID-19 Program from the very beginning. If true, it means that everything we were told was political theater, right down to the FDA vaccine approval process. Our guest today is the former executive of a pharmaceutical contract research organization Sasha Latypova and she shows what she has found due to her searches based on instinct that the Covid vaccine was not exactly on the up and up.

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 8, 2023 8:38 am

What’s Western Australia like to live?

alwaysright
alwaysright
January 8, 2023 8:40 am

Is this working?

alwaysright
alwaysright
January 8, 2023 8:41 am

Nope. Not working.
Can’t see what I post.

Dot
Dot
January 8, 2023 8:45 am

What the hell is “subliminal pedophilia”?

I highly doubt that children can be sexually molested by an unproven and probably false visual communication method.

Colour me sceptical.

Indolent
Indolent
January 8, 2023 8:48 am

What the hell is “subliminal pedophilia”?

Did you view the clip? Absolutely disgusting.

JMH
JMH
January 8, 2023 8:54 am

Black Ballsays:
January 8, 2023 at 8:38 am

What’s Western Australia like to live?

Stay grounded, Black Ball. Tomorrow is another day. Trite saying, I know, but things will improve.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 8, 2023 8:55 am

Did you view the clip?

Of course not.

P
P
January 8, 2023 8:59 am

You won’t believe this. McDonalds.

2019, three years ago.

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 8, 2023 9:06 am

Yeah I will be fine.
However I reproduce now a Hun article that doesn’t fill me with confidence that Dutton will vote against Teh Voice:

Opposition leader Peter Dutton has warned Anthony Albanese that his refusal to release more detail on the Indigenous Voice to Parliament is a “catastrophic mistake” that will doom this year’s referendum to failure.

And he has accused the Prime Minister of treating voters “like mugs” in keeping the fine print secret.

In a fiery open letter laying out 15 Voice questions he wants answered, the Opposition Leader ­accused the PM and Indigenous Minister Linda Burney of running a deliberate political strategy to prevent Australians making an informed decision.

Mr Dutton’s move will be seen as preparing the groundwork for the Liberal Party to formally oppose the Voice when it meets after parliament resumes early next month.

“I believe you are making a catastrophic mistake in not providing accessible, clear and complete information regarding your government’s version of the Voice, condemning it to failure and, in turn, damaging reconciliation efforts in our country,” he wrote. “Your approach will ensure a dangerous and divisive debate grounded in hearsay and misinformation.”

Liberal MPs who spoke to The Sunday Telegraph this week said the mood in the party room had hardened against the proposal in ­recent weeks, and it was ­increasingly likely they would oppose it.

In November, the National Party announced it would oppose the Voice, but Liberals have yet to make up their minds on whether to formally support or oppose it, or allow its MPs to make their own decision about their position.

In his letter, Mr Dutton told the PM: “I am committed to being constructive on the issue of reconciliation and as you are aware from our discussions the Coalition will support any sensible and practical measures to ­improve the lives of Indigenous Australians.

“The incidence of sexual assault, domestic violence, and health outcomes, among many other issues, in Indigenous communities — particularly in regional and remote areas — is a national disgrace. It is imperative you explain how a constitutionally enshrined Voice to Parliament will deliver tangible improvements in the lives of Indigenous Australians, which must remain the ­priority of Government.”

He warned a constitutionally enshrined Voice to Parliament would be a body “without precedent” and a “significant change” to how Australia is governed.

Among the questions Mr Dutton wants answered are: who will be eligible to serve on the body; who will be able to nominate for it; and will the Government clarify the definition of Aboriginality to determine who can serve on it.

He also wants to know how much it will cost, how members will be elected, chosen or appointed, and how many will be on it.

More importantly, he wants to know its functions and powers, whether it will be purely advisory, or will it have decision-making capabilities — as well as whether it can be dissolved and reconstituted in ­extraordinary ­circumstances.

“Many Australians do not understand the scope and operation of the Voice and expect comprehensive information before being asked to vote,” he said.

“Regrettably, it now appears clear your political strategy is to not provide adequate detail for Australians to make an informed decision.

“In refusing to provide basic information and answer reasonable questions on the Voice, you are treating the Australian people like mugs.”

Mr Dutton wants assurances it won’t become “just another layer of bureaucracy similar to the failed ATSIC” or “interfere with the system of Government which has kept our country a stable and peaceful democracy”.

The government, he said, “must stop playing clever and tricky political games by withholding detail and rushing the ­referendum. I again call on you to provide the necessary detail on how the Voice will ­operate.”

Zipster
Zipster
January 8, 2023 9:12 am

A BOMBSHELL new report claims shows that the Department of Defense – meaning the Pentagon – controlled the COVID-19 Program from the very beginning.

why did they try to cover it up that they knew this was a bioweapon release?

JC
JC
January 8, 2023 9:12 am
miltonf
miltonf
January 8, 2023 9:15 am

BB if I ever moved from Vicco I think I’d choose Qld.

Don’t know much about living in WA-haven’t visited in 30 years but certainly liked what I saw.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 8, 2023 9:17 am

JC – yikes!
Like an old lesbian couple.

calli
calli
January 8, 2023 9:18 am

That McDonalds cup story is quite old, even though the commentary is recent. I remember it being talked about during the PizzaGate stuff, some time around 2018-19.

Are the cups still in circulation, or were they removed from stores? I thought they had been withdrawn.

calli
calli
January 8, 2023 9:19 am

JC says:
January 8, 2023 at 9:12 am

LOL!

When do they start shopping for soft furnishings and cats?

calli
calli
January 8, 2023 9:22 am

Bother. Should have refreshed before commenting on the Maccas cups.

Just waved goodbye to the munchkins, and of course, the sun comes out!

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 8, 2023 9:23 am

What’s Western Australia like to live?
Blackball, From say Yanchep, draw a line to Albany. West of the line is pretty nice. Perth is a modern, relatively clean city. Northern suburbs are a Pom colony though. Perth beaches are great if that’s your thing.

Dot
Dot
January 8, 2023 9:24 am

Until a heap of those artists at McDonalds are done for CP, that’s just straight up Karening.

If you see filth everywhere in your mind you will see it in physical reality.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 8, 2023 9:25 am

MacDonald’s doesn’t even sell pizza.
Although Ronald does have red shoes.

calli
calli
January 8, 2023 9:26 am

“In refusing to provide basic information and answer reasonable questions on the Voice, you are treating the Australian people like mugs.”

I don’t think Luigi the Unbelievable actually knows how the thing will function, only that he wants it. He’s going to wing it and see.

Icarus, come on down!

JC
JC
January 8, 2023 9:29 am

Dot!!!
Very funny, I’m not sure I agree or disagree because I really don’t know. The Leb is calling Bitcoin an incredibly good imbecile detector.

calli
calli
January 8, 2023 9:30 am

Thought so. Those cups are pre-covid. The kiddies aren’t wearing masks.

Cassie of Sydney
January 8, 2023 9:31 am

“Mr Dutton’s move will be seen as preparing the groundwork for the Liberal Party to formally oppose the Voice when it meets after parliament resumes early next month.””

The problem with Dutton is that he’s being hindered by wet scum like Bragg and Birmingham and other remaining wets. There are still a few left in the Liberal Party, sadly the clean out on 21 May 2022 didn’t quite capture all of them.

alwaysright
alwaysright
January 8, 2023 9:31 am

According to the time stamps, I see posts about an hour after they are posted.
Dover, is this a feature or a bug?

JMH
JMH
January 8, 2023 9:35 am

If Dutton knows what’s good for him – he will hold not fold.

  1. >snork< https://www.facebook.com/reel/1081057370416773 You have to open it to see what’s inside.

  2. Others bathed once a year in May or later in the rivers.Jayzus. The cities must have stunk. I will admit…

  3. When asked how it was possible for Ms Tarnawsky to be bullied by more junior members of staff, Mr Bradley…

  4. Gay tyranny. A dictatorship of the woke minority. It makes you realise the steel fist behind the “Live, Life, Love”…

  5. A bathroom of old, lucky some. Others bathed once a year in May or later in the rivers. Brides carried…

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