Open Thread – Tue 31 Jan 2023


The Surrender of Granada, Francisco Pradilla Ortiz, 1882


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Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 31, 2023 12:03 pm

Breaking news from the Age : The PM and Dan Andrews have announced a new arms production facility will be built in Melbourne.

It will employ hundreds of highly skilled workers and lead the way in creating jobs in the defence manufacturing industry.

It will provide a much needed boost to our long range missile capabilities and will require the ADF to retrain members on the new weapons systems.

Under questioning by far right extremist journalist Rita Panahi the PM reluctantly revealed the production capacity will be : 3,000 very ornate boomerangs, 2,000 woomeras, 2,000 spears and 1,000 bow and arrows. The bow and arrows will be under licence from the Apache Arrow Company in New Mexico. Defence Minister Marles has negotiated for months on this top secret collaboration which will prove useful in the 40 year negotiations for the submarine programme. In fact the PM proudly pointed out that due to his personal efforts the cost of one years production will only be equal to the cost of buying a US nuclear submarine and it was better to have the jobs in Australia.

Senator Lidia Thorpe has condemned the facility and called it cultural appropriation. The Unions have also spoken out about the requirement for the diverse workforce to work 2 days per week as it will interfere with traditional walk abouts and wombat hunting.

Bill Shorten in whose electorate the facility will be built was not aware of the announcement but said he agreed with whatever was said in it.

‘Gunpowder’ eh? … so we are reduced to that are we?

Robert Sewell
January 31, 2023 12:04 pm

HBBear:

You have to begin with dysfunctional family situations, unless you plan to take the kids out of them.

How can you blame whitey for that?

You just can – it’s our superpower.

Roger
Roger
January 31, 2023 12:05 pm

Very good, Bourne.

rickw
rickw
January 31, 2023 12:09 pm

Mystery lathe in NSW in shed full of junk! (Looking at the guard it could be a Colchester Bantam)

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/warriewood/other-tools-diy/shed-clear-out-lathe-machines-boat-gear-all-from-1-00-obo-/1307729973

Robert Sewell
January 31, 2023 12:10 pm

JMH:

To remove the blood-curdling screams of RACIST, he suggested that an Aboriginal body be formed to remove the kids. Would this suggestion be a non-event because of problems that would probably arise due to the different clans?

No. It will fail on the basis of the child support money. If the parents don’t get the Munni, the kids will be deemed as stolen.
It’s a constant replay of a cartoon I saw many years ago:
Bloke standing on street corner with a boxing glove and holding a dog. The dog is pictured in a concussed state, with stars and planets circling its head. The man is explaining to the woman with her purse open – “It’s simple. If you give me ten dollars, I don’t punch the dog for ten minutes.”

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 31, 2023 12:17 pm

Beating the sh1t out of someone is a crime. [end of sentence]

So was the AFP destroying evidence of my innocence and and substituting fabricated evidence of my guilt, but the best the Judge could do when she caught them out was label their evidence ‘curious’.

calli
calli
January 31, 2023 12:17 pm

Good article at The Spectator on intellectual freedom in medicine vs. the medical bureaucracy. Worth a look.

Also, Dover…it’s “Thread”. All that fussin’ and fightin’ last night caused typos.

calli
calli
January 31, 2023 12:18 pm

You were Keneallyed DocDuk. If the evidence doesn’t suit, make some up.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 31, 2023 12:22 pm

What’s the Aussie equivalent of 77th brigade and what have THEY been up to over the last three years?

I would think AFP, ASD and ASIO would be the frontline TLAs there.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I did not know (well, why would I) that the ‘founder of Chicago’ was a certain Jean Baptiste Point du Sable, who was black…

The founding of Chicago predates Harriet Beecher Stowe, so he’s not an Uncle Tom, but a Coconut.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 31, 2023 12:26 pm

Off topic, but the current reading is”Eagle Against the Sun” by Ronald Spector. Very good one volume history of the Pacific War. He makes the point that Douglas MacArthur’s obsession with liberating the Philippines, meant that, of the Allied cities, only Warsaw suffered greater damage than Manila, during World War Two.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 31, 2023 12:28 pm

m0ntysays:
January 31, 2023 at 9:48 am
Unlike you, I still work for a crust.

LOL I haven’t made enough to retire yet.

Do you work two days a week in your husband’s charitable organisation?

Try to control your misogyny m0nty=fa.

Dot
Dot
January 31, 2023 12:29 pm

dover0beach says:
January 31, 2023 at 11:55 am

Baron of the Taiga
@baronitaigas
???: Staff at The Economist were reduced to tears as it was revealed Russia had bypassed oil sanctions and price ceilings on an “industrial scale”

The war has cost at least 4% of GDP so far, a casualty count/catastrophic emigration you don’t recognise and their VAT is down 40%.

Ukraine (well, Russia, “actually”) will have the costliest real estate in the world and a husk of a society and economy.

Dot
Dot
January 31, 2023 12:32 pm

2,000 Woomeras

Let’s hope they are a better combat plane than the CAC Wirraway was.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 31, 2023 12:32 pm

You have to deal with a mindset that won’t send their children to school, for fear of “losing their culture.

Er, loss of culture is the very root of the problem: that culture being a nomadic hunter gatherer lifestyle with personal responsibility, reward for success (in hunting), punishment for failure (starvation), NO SIT DOWN MONEY/ALCOHOL (its the same thing), constant caloric restriction and diet centred on fresh meat not processed carbs and seed oils.

Culture, btw, is the ‘operating system’ of a population – its all the things they say and do and believe as part of everyday life. It evolves to suit the environment and has the same strong genetic traits as body form does. People who are successful in a given culture pass that culture on. This is why transplanting people from one culture/environment into a different one so often fails:

Exhibit A: Australian Aborigines – transplanted from hunter gatherer to technological environment in a handful of generations.

Exhibit B: Sudanese transplanted into Melbourne in a single generation.

Exhibit C: Somalis transplanted into Sweden or Minnesota in a single generation.

Exhibit D: Central African Blacks transplanted into the US 200 years ago.

etc etc etc

rickw
rickw
January 31, 2023 12:33 pm

I would think AFP, ASD and ASIO would be the frontline TLAs there.

And not one of the Mongs in those departments would think “gee, should we be doing this?”.

JMH
JMH
January 31, 2023 12:34 pm

Robert at 12.10 pm

No. It will fail on the basis of the child support money. If the parents don’t get the Munni, the kids will be deemed as stolen.

Mmmmm – yes, both Neil Mitchell and I may have overlooked that detail.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 31, 2023 12:35 pm

Those of us that actually use consumer quantities of actual gunpowder, the smoky stuff, know that its all imported. We have to arrange special dangerous goods shippers to bring it from port to each group of consumers because the regulations are so onerous that shops and ordinary distributors have given up stocking it.

Or buy the ingredients at Bunnings?

rickw
rickw
January 31, 2023 12:35 pm

Let’s hope they are a better combat plane than the CAC Wirraway was.

The next iteration, the Boomerang, wasn’t bad, things were moving fast!

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 31, 2023 12:36 pm

dover0beachsays:
January 31, 2023 at 10:21 am
Then you have Hamilton 68:

A left-wing think tank erroneously claiming to track Russian online activity was responsible for thousands of bogus stories asserting the nation’s influence in US politics, according to the latest batch of Twitter Files.

The Hamilton 68 “dashboard” was the brainchild of former FBI special agent and MSNBC contributor Clint Watts and operated under the Alliance for Securing Democracy, a think tank founded in 2017 — shortly after former President Trump took office.

The ASD Advisory Council included such figures as top Clinton ally John Podesta, Obama-era acting CIA Director Michael Morell, former US Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, and former conservative activist Bill Kristol.

What a surprise such figures were involved.

This is the Twatter Files drop that m0nty=fa (and probably also the DNC/MSM complex) is studiously avoiding commenting on. It shows that a fair swag of the Wussia, Wussia, Wussia theme was, in a m0nty=fa word, a “nothingburger”.

At this point, I suspect that m0nty=fa would welcome a return to focus on Grunter’s nine-inch hog.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 31, 2023 12:40 pm

You were Keneallyed DocDuk. If the evidence doesn’t suit, make some up.

*Always* film the police …

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 31, 2023 12:42 pm

Let’s hope they are a better combat plane than the CAC Wirraway was.

I was under the impression that the Wirraway was only ever intended as a trainer and utility aircraft, and it’s use in a combat role was largely desperation?

Robert Sewell
January 31, 2023 12:42 pm

FlyingDuk:

Exhibit B: Sudanese transplanted into Melbourne in a single generation.
Exhibit C: Somalis transplanted into Sweden or Minnesota in a single generation.

I’m not as forgiving as you, Flyingduk.
B &C weren’t resettled here to save them from warlike conditions, they were brought here to establish and inflict those warlike conditions on us. In other words, brought here to terrorise the people of Australia who were getting cranky at authoritarian governments.
As was pointed out at the time.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 31, 2023 12:43 pm

Not to forget State police counter terrorism units and intelligence. The Deputy Commissioner Qld police seemed overly concerned about people having conspiracy theories about vaccines. No doubt her intelligence unit still telling her vaccines stop transmission.

“I would think AFP, ASD and ASIO would be the frontline TLAs there”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 31, 2023 12:45 pm

My home is messy’: Queen of Clean Marie Kondo admits life’s too short to be tidy

By Anne Barrowclough
Senior Digital News Producer
11:51AM January 31, 2023
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Nearly 50 years ago, the world’s first Superwoman, Shirley Conran, famously declared: “Life’s too short to stuff a mushroom,” as she urged women against trying to ‘have it all.’

Now icon of tidiness Marie Kondo, the woman who has spent years advising the messy majority on how to reduce their homes to the aesthetic of a monk’s cell, has her own confession to make. The Queen of Clean says she’s come to realise what every mother of young children already knows; life is too short to be tidy – at least when you have kids.

The admission from the 38-year-old expert on decluttering may well cause anger and angst among her millions of fans who have ruthlessly thrown out their belongings for the reason they don’t “give joy.”

But the Japanese best-selling author – her first book The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up has sold more than six million copies internationally – says she has changed her views since the birth of her third child, admitting she has “kind of given up” on keeping her house tidy.

“My home is messy, but the way I am spending my time is the right way for me at this time at this stage of my life,” she told The Washington Post. “Up until now, I was a professional tidier, so I did my best to keep my home tidy at all times.

“I have kind of given up on that in a good way for me. Now I realise what is important to me is enjoying spending time with my children at home.”

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 31, 2023 12:49 pm

And not one of the Mongs in those departments would think “gee, should we be doing this?”.

I used to rub shoulders with 20 or 30 coppers when I was a member of the Police Pistol Club* (they allowed a handful of ex Military members like me also). At the time they were heavily committed to COVID policing, and regarded their ‘deployments’ to the border closures and the rallies in the same way as my military colleagues used to regard their war deployments – rare career opportunities to ‘see some action’ and pocket a wad of overtime/special duties cash.

They think about it all right – they can’t wait for more.

* before they kicked me out for making an ass of this Sgt from Mt Barker. https://rumble.com/vp8bxl-senior-australian-military-doctor-visited-by-police-after-contacting-mp-abo.html

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
January 31, 2023 12:49 pm

A friend has just returned from attending a wedding in Seth Afrika. Some interesting observations:
1. Had to acclimatise to 8 hours of ‘load shedding’ each day. Previously known as blackouts.
2. Was advised not to go to an ATM to withdraw cash. Apparently these places attract people with guns.
3. Attended a restaurant where advised not to wear jewellery or watches or anything of value. If any jewellery please ensure it is cheap. Venue sees this as the way to reduce the number of armed holdups and inconvenience to customers.
I thought SA was on the way to milk and honey. No mention of this sh!tholification when St Mandela is mentioned.
Still there is the load shedding that Bowen is keen on sharing with us asap.

Lysander
Lysander
January 31, 2023 12:53 pm

I know it’s not very Christian of me, but darn I hope Nilagain enters the seventh realm of hell.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 31, 2023 12:53 pm

I thought SA was on the way to milk and honey. No mention of this sh!tholification when St Mandela is mentioned.

Africans found out that Africans could be just as venal, corrupt and brutal as the old white bass ever was.

alwaysright
alwaysright
January 31, 2023 12:58 pm

nothing in my lifetime matches the rank stupidity of roonable electricity.
Nothing.
We have closed generators that used to produce electricity at <4c per kwh and replaced them with occasional generation at 10 times* the price.

Total moronic, stupid, idiocy. And it continues.

*probably 20 timies, but I'm being generous.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
January 31, 2023 12:58 pm

Now icon of tidiness Marie Kondo, the woman who has spent years advising the messy majority on how to reduce their homes to the aesthetic of a monk’s cell, has her own confession to make.

I recall an AbFab episode where Edina invites over a couple she hasnt seen for a few years. Goes into panic to clean the house based on her previous experience with said couple – flashback see the couple living in a 1980s music video clip where everything is white and luminous…so bright no one knows where the dinner table and chair are – everything is calm and other worldly. Well the couple rocks up at Edinas house with a new baby in hand and their life has descended into a living hell having given up on all order, respect for each other and life in general. Tre funny.

So Marie Kondo we have seen your kind come and go over the years.

Robert Sewell
January 31, 2023 1:00 pm

We Are Releasing Documents in Coming Days that Reveal Numerous Criminal Acts by the President and His Son Hunter
Column’s up: A curiously well-informed email about Ukraine, Russia and the UK on Hunter Biden’s laptop is a thread that links the President’s classified documents scandal to the Delaware federal investigation into his son’s foreign business dealings. https://t.co/8hu5x5e6RU

— Miranda Devine (@mirandadevine) January 23, 2023

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 31, 2023 1:04 pm

Let’s hope they are a better combat plane than the CAC Wirraway was.

I was under the impression that the Wirraway was only ever intended as a trainer and utility aircraft, and it’s use in a combat role was largely desperation?

A recent doco I watched recounts how this went from original design concept to full build within months. It was intended to be a fighter, but in reality, though well armed and manoeuverable, was still a bit slow for the ‘boom and zoom’ tactics that were proving most successful. By then, however, supplies of OS aircraft (Kittyhawks, Spitfires etc had improved, and there were a lot of US flown AC in theatre, so it was then relegated largely to ground attack which it did well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nchukT9VoI0

Fun fact 1 – the Boomerang used essentially the same centre section as the Wirraway.
Fun fact 2 – the Wirraway did score ONE air to air kill: A Ki 43 Oscar shot down by PO John Archer in Dec 1942 – he ambushed it from above using the 2 forward firing 303s.

Roger
Roger
January 31, 2023 1:11 pm

No. It will fail on the basis of the child support money. If the parents don’t get the Munni, the kids will be deemed as stolen.

Mmmmm – yes, both Neil Mitchell and I may have overlooked that detail.

Sorry, but it’s time we put the children’s needs ahead of their delinquent parents.

Robert Sewell
January 31, 2023 1:13 pm

Flyingduk:
* before they kicked me out for making an ass of this Sgt from Mt Barker. https://rumble.com/vp8bxl-senior-australian-military-doctor-visited-by-police-after-contacting-mp-abo.html
Rumble really suffers from low grade sound quality. I’ve asked them several times to add subtitles, but it hasn’t happened yet.
When Rumble clips come on, I just cancel them.
That’s a pity because I’d like to understand what the copper is getting so hot under the collar about.
Do you have a written version of the exchange?

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 31, 2023 1:14 pm

It is time we recognize that some genetic makeups just can’t handle alcohol.
Is it a natural selection thing at work? Others have been exposed to alcohol for millennia.

I like the theory that we are descended from the proto apes who could handle the ethanol in fermenting fruit. Hence we are the descendants of drunken monkeys. Look around you.

Jorge
Jorge
January 31, 2023 1:14 pm

Exhibit C: Somalis ..

At the local shopping centre, approached and asked for money. He didn’t like the response so followed, jumped on me from the side and got me into a headlock, saying ‘White people f****d up my country.’ A woman rushed over, evidently knew him and intervened.

No doubt he’d been filled with lefty propaganda about white racist men and his rights as a refugee.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 31, 2023 1:15 pm

There is another Boomerang being assembled in Toowoomba right now. They are about to bolt the outer wing panels on. Engine and prop already in.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 31, 2023 1:21 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
January 31, 2023 1:21 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
January 31, 2023 at 11:32 am
‘Gunpowder’ eh? … so we are reduced to that are we?

Dr Duk – since chemistry apparently is now all about climate change, misogyny and racism, I doubt we could use nitric acid without blowing ourselves up.

The injunction that, when diluting, add the acid to the water, not the water to the acid has probably been forgotten, guaranteeing a steam explosion at some stage.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 31, 2023 1:28 pm

Dotsays:
January 31, 2023 at 12:32 pm
2,000 Woomeras

Let’s hope they are a better combat plane than the CAC Wirraway was.

Don’t be unkind Dot. A zero was shot down by one of them (over Buna, late 1942). Well, actually the pilot did the shooting.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 31, 2023 1:29 pm

It is time we recognize that some genetic makeups just can’t handle alcohol.
Is it a natural selection thing at work? Others have been exposed to alcohol for millennia.

I like the theory that we are descended from the proto apes who could handle the ethanol in fermenting fruit. Hence we are the descendants of drunken monkeys. Look around you.

The ‘alcohol from fermenting fruit’ hypothesis might hold in the tropics, but for most of the Australian Continent, Southern Africa and North America, fruit would have been a rare, seasonal treat, hence exposure to alcohol would have been irregular at best.

In contrast, caucasians (Eastern and Western Europeans, English etc) learned to make alcohol from grains, which could be stored year round. Indeed, they consumed it regularly, often in preference to the local water which was more likely to be infectious (look up ‘small beer’).

I don’t doubt the extreme vulnerability of our hunter gatherer bretheren to alcohol and sugar reflects them missing the genetic winnowing process which already culled those most vulnerable amongst the caucasian stock.

Vicki
Vicki
January 31, 2023 1:31 pm

Alhambra Palace. One of the most amazing pieces of architecture in the world.

Yes – absolutely exquisite. I visited primarily to see the gardens and the water channeling for them, but was knocked over by Alhambra itself. Absolutely exquisite.

BTW I think that Granada itself is perhaps the most liveable city in Europe. Just loved it – location, construction and everything else. Oh – and the amazing Basilica of San Juan De Dios – never seen so much gold in one place – let alone a Basilica!

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 31, 2023 1:32 pm
Top Ender
Top Ender
January 31, 2023 1:32 pm

“good” too!

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
January 31, 2023 1:33 pm

3,000 very ornate boomerangs, 2,000 woomeras, 2,000 spears

60,000 years of kulcha and the best weapons developed are bits of wood and untipped spears. No wonder they can’t cope with modern society. The wheel must still be blowing minds in communities.

calli
calli
January 31, 2023 1:36 pm

All this “gunpowder” talk. Jim didn’t need Bunnings.

Although I’d love to know where he found that handy bit of bamboo.

Sat in the snug at the Guy Fawkes Inn in York last holiday. No recipes there either.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 31, 2023 1:36 pm

17-18 degrees forecast for the Wimmera at the end of week.
It’s February and climate change is real.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 31, 2023 1:40 pm

Dr Duk

Snap re the Wirraway combat success.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 31, 2023 1:43 pm

Darwin locals have revealed the sad reason they’re avoiding certain shops in their city, with some small businesses being forced to shut as a result.

A video of a Territorian man having a violent outburst outside Darwin City Woolworths on Monday, captured the unfortunate reality supermarket workers and shoppers deal with regularly.

The man is seen smashing several large pot plants – used to adorn the shopping centre – onto the floor, as customers do their shopping.

A security guard then approaches the man and escorts him out of the small complex, stopping him from damaging another set of plants decorating the entrance.

While it’s unclear what triggered the outburst, locals commenting on the footage posted to Reddit said such behaviour in these usually family-friendly areas is an “everyday event”.

Consequently, some locals are resorting to shopping from home or avoiding the area altogether when it comes to buying their groceries.

“Casuarina, Hibiscus and (Darwin) City Woolworths is why my family uses online shopping but it’s sad to see all the shops dying,” one concerned user commented.

Meanwhile another user claiming to be one of the security guards who attended the scene said the man’s violent behaviour was “nothing compared to what we deal with at the buses”.

“This is an everyday event. We see this day to day and no one comes till (sic) it’s too late,” they said.

A third commentator said they feared behaviour like this was giving the indigenous community a bad name.

“People creating a narrative that all indigenous people are like this is untrue because a lot of us are not like this and it’s quite unfair the narrative would get pushed from this,” they commented.

A fourth said: “(it) p****s me off to see s**t like this happen. It’s no wonder why small businesses fail in Darwin.”

Northern Territory Police said it urges anyone who witnesses crime or anti-social behaviour to call the Police without sirens number on 131 444, triple-0 or to contact Crime Stoppers.

Arky
January 31, 2023 1:46 pm

“Your emails have come to police attention”.
Geeze they’re good aren’t they? Meaningless yet vaguely threatening phrases that don’t commit them to anything, but designed to elicit information.

Robert Sewell
January 31, 2023 1:58 pm

Thanks Flyingduk – I watched the Gateway Pundit section and used earphones & Graphic Equaliser to get 4/5 understanding, which is far better than the 3/5 reception via rumble.
The Sergeant was quite nervous – repeated himself multiple times and answered your questions with his own questions on several occasions. I expected better from a Sergeant – more self confident.
I doubt he was happy being put in that position.

Vicki
Vicki
January 31, 2023 1:59 pm

I don’t understand the whole nail salons industry
Likewise. Perhaps it’s like the pale complexion and unscathed hands in some cultures proving that one does no manual labour.

Likewise. My city friends wave their beautifully manicured hands around (laden with gems) and rattle on about the manicurists. The length of their talons confirms that they don’t “do” housework or gardening.

My gnarled old hands and rough nails testify to quite a different life, spent in my latter years mostly on the farm. But even after retiring years ago from paid work, I returned to doing my own housework in my city home. Cant see why it seems such a burden or disreputable to friends. But then, I am a bit of an “outlier”.

Robert Sewell
January 31, 2023 2:12 pm

Top Ender:
Actually, the Boomerang – IMHO – was quite a reasonable looking machine. It appears well balanced and businesslike. Especially if it were to be set up in the ground support role.
Unfortunately photos of them in G/A role are as scarce as rocking horse shit, I just remember one I saw about twenty years ago…

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

A drawback of the Wirraway is that the motor is apt to conk out when inverted.
At altitude this may be managed. At low level it is lethal.

tommbell
tommbell
January 31, 2023 2:14 pm

Great news for employers with more than 15 staff. From tomorrow, all your employees are “entitled” to 10 days domestic violence leave. From 1 August, all employers are caught.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Great news for employers with more than 15 staff. From tomorrow, all your employees are “entitled” to 10 days domestic violence leave. From 1 August, all employers are caught.

Thus extending annual leave to Two months of fully paid leave.

Robert Sewell
January 31, 2023 2:28 pm

Top Ender:

Unfortunately photos of them in G/A role are as scarce as rocking horse shit, I just remember one I saw about twenty years ago*…

*It might have been just ten or even five years ago – time gets away from you at 70+
🙂 🙂

Robert Sewell
January 31, 2023 2:31 pm

Tommbell:

Great news for employers with more than 15 staff. From tomorrow, all your employees are “entitled” to 10 days domestic violence leave. From 1 August, all employers are caught.

There are ramifications here for employees that may not have been thought through by the “Wukkas Friends.”

Zipster
January 31, 2023 2:31 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 31, 2023 2:38 pm

Lots more Alice Springs stories coming out:

I see from the article that Alice Springs businessmen are planning a 1.5 billion dollar action against the federal Government. Albo might have to spend another couple of hours up there, sorting out the mess.

Lysander
Lysander
January 31, 2023 2:39 pm

What are the chances of two major food processing centres in the US each being hit by a plane in the same week?

tommbell
tommbell
January 31, 2023 2:41 pm

There are ramifications here for employees that may not have been thought through by the “Wukkas Friends.”

Very true.

And in case anyone missed it, in more good news, the “Respect@Work” legislation received royal assent in December. No doubt the HRC will eventually become very active in this “space”. It prohibits conduct that subjects another person “to a workplace environment that is hostile on the ground of sex”. Great news for the girlies. They can rock up to work without underwear and God help any bloke who notices….

Gabor
Gabor
January 31, 2023 2:52 pm

m0nty says:
January 31, 2023 at 10:38 am

Australia partners with France to supply Ukraine with artillery shells
Good to see Labor mending the French relationship after it was destroyed by Morrison.

So, (shame) you think the French subs were a good idea?

Robert Sewell
January 31, 2023 3:03 pm

From Tucker above:
Just wait until the US, Australia and Canada realise how vulnerable their wheat crops are to fire sabotage from Extinction Revolution nutters. If they can round up a couple of hundred protesters at an abattoir, just think how many they can shove in cars and supply with matches to drive along wheat fields burning as they go.
Three cars in three different areas at the start of harvest season will overrun any firefighting capability these small towns will have, then the rest will just burn itself out.

Gabor
Gabor
January 31, 2023 3:03 pm

Robert Sewell says:
January 31, 2023 at 1:13 pm

Rumble really suffers from low grade sound quality. I’ve asked them several times to add subtitles, but it hasn’t happened yet.

Not just Rumble, most U-tube stuff I have problems with and use headphones, it helps.
I put it down to age, (55)

Robert Sewell
January 31, 2023 3:10 pm

Tommbell:

They can rock up to work without underwear and God help any bloke who notices….

The ONLY option for the owner is to close up shop. Anything else they do is just going to cost them their businesses.
As I mentioned further up, this is Boxer from the novel 1984 being worked to death and sold to the knackery. Albo is bringing his Trotskyist Wrecker Manual to work every day to destroy Australia.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 31, 2023 3:16 pm

just think how many they can shove in cars and supply with matches to drive along wheat fields burning as they go.

People have been known to disappear in the Western Australian wheatbelt, never to be seen again.

Christine
Christine
January 31, 2023 3:18 pm

Paul Collits (on anti-Catholic spite : Quadrant) is taken aback at the intensity of this bigoted woman’s anger and lust for revenge. He might consider the Irish element.
Having many relations and charming friends in Ireland, I’ve seen women shudder … when claiming that a smilingly-spiteful Irishwoman with an axe to grind has no equal anywhere on earth. The claim could be true.
This one’s smile is fairly chilling.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
January 31, 2023 3:19 pm

Robert Sewellsays:
January 31, 2023 at 3:03 pm
From Tucker above:
Just wait until the US, Australia and Canada realise how vulnerable their wheat crops are to fire sabotage from Extinction Revolution nutters. If they can round up a couple of hundred protesters at an abattoir, just think how many they can shove in cars and supply with matches to drive along wheat fields burning as they go.
Three cars in three different areas at the start of harvest season will overrun any firefighting capability these small towns will have, then the rest will just burn itself out.

The outback is a big place. There could end up being some unfortunate accidents for the ER cars. Country driving can be dangerous. The firebugs may accidentally end up in front of a combine harvester. They would be city slickers who have no idea of the dangers of machinery.

Zipster
January 31, 2023 3:20 pm

Activist denounces California’s proposed $223,000 reparations payments: ‘Not enough!”

In December, a reparations task force convened by California Gov. Gavin Newsom concluded that California residents who are the descendants of slaves are owed at least $223,200 in reparations each, or $569 billion total.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
January 31, 2023 3:21 pm

Snap ZK2A.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 31, 2023 3:23 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

January 31, 2023 at 1:36 pm

17-18 degrees forecast for the Wimmera at the end of week.
It’s February and climate change is real.

Bought a new air-con before Christmas to remove at least one cause of whining over the “congenial Christmas lunch”.
I’ve used it on cool cycle about three times in two months.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 31, 2023 3:24 pm

Snap ZK2A.

Great minds, Perplexed. Google “Murder on the RabbitProof Fence” sometime.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The outback is a big place. There could end up being some unfortunate accidents for the ER cars. Country driving can be dangerous. The firebugs may accidentally end up in front of a combine harvester. They would be city slickers who have no idea of the dangers of machinery.

In my experience the average Extinction Rebellion type, already a fish out of water in the bush – to a degree they did not anticipate, pretty much loses their nerve in the presence of farm dogs who are suspicious of weird-smelling strangers.

That “Nnnnnnnnggrrrrrrrrr” noise dogs make, not quite a growl, causes the precious ER petals to quaver.

Never mind an encounter with a very cross farmer (with a black & white attitude toward dole recipients, never mind toward crime & punishment, and harbours a now very linear thought process) who has just seen you burn his year’s income.

P
P
January 31, 2023 3:28 pm

The Anti-Human Humanitarians of Davos
Crisis Magazine by Mary Cuff – January 30, 2023

Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better.” Since 1971, the World Economic Forum, brainchild of Swiss-German billionaire Klaus Schwab, has gathered the richest elites from the four corners of the earth for an exclusive conference on the globe and its problems.

This annual, invitation-only meeting of the world’s richest and most powerful bills itself as an academic assembly of global do-gooders plagued by the vilest conspiracy theories. Or, as John Kerry enthused in his WEF speech of this year, it is a select, secretive assembly, almost “extraterrestrial,” in its insight and desire for the earth’s collective good. But the reality is that the World Economic Forum, with its impressive collection of CEOs ranging from Pfizer to Facebook to Black Rock, as well as senior representatives of all major heads of state, has become an anti-human, globalist shadow government. And its agenda is anti-Christian to the very core.

alwaysright
alwaysright
January 31, 2023 3:32 pm

nitric acid

Know this students. Nitric acid dissolves protein. You are made out of protein.

Chris
Chris
January 31, 2023 3:41 pm

Don’t even talk about hypothetical firebug shit, or vigilantism in response. Keep it off the conversation.
We could have had it with the islamofascists, and didn’t. Instead they figured out trucking into pedestrians.
The media amplify this talk, and that’s how we got Port Arthur.

calli
calli
January 31, 2023 3:43 pm

Ban surrogacy.

It’s human trafficking.

Vicki
Vicki
January 31, 2023 3:44 pm

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11694609/Rachel-Hale-nurse-witness-youths-laying-siege-Alice-Springs-hotel-breaks-silence.html

Saw Rachel on Ch9 Breakfast interviewed by Karl Stephanovic. What a scorcher! She started slowly with standard videos of youths, then launched into evidence of sexual abuse of Aboriginal children she had seen as a registered nurse in Alice Springs hospital.

I believe she also spoke to Fordham onSydney radio. Apparently he urged her to tell her story to other networks as well.

It is a repeat of the stories that led to Howard’s Intervention – but it needs to be told YET AGAIN.

rosie
rosie
January 31, 2023 3:44 pm

Alhambra
First went there, maybe eleven years ago? No pre booking, mid week in January and it was no problem. I don’t remember any restrictions on when you could enter the palace. Maybe because it wasn’t particularly busy.
Next time five six years ago also January no prebooking but we got there pre start time because I knew it was getting more difficult and were the last to be given tickets.
Then it was small groups, sitting while being checked by sniffer dogs and generally tighter security.
Happy to walk down afterwards but not up.
I prefer buildings with lots more art, eg the Royal Pantheon in Leon.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
January 31, 2023 3:47 pm

Mariana Mazzucato
Fascista, letteralmente

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 31, 2023 3:55 pm

Great news for employers with more than 15 staff. From tomorrow, all your employees are “entitled” to 10 days domestic violence leave. From 1 August, all employers are caught.

‘Show me the incentive, I will show you the outcome’ … Buffet or Munger IIRR

alwaysright
alwaysright
January 31, 2023 3:55 pm

How did we end up being governed by loonies? e.g. Talidan, the ice cream kid.

Dot
Dot
January 31, 2023 3:57 pm

Then you have Hamilton 68:

A left-wing think tank erroneously claiming to track Russian online activity was responsible for thousands of bogus stories asserting the nation’s influence in US politics, according to the latest batch of Twitter Files.

The Hamilton 68 “dashboard” was the brainchild of former FBI special agent and MSNBC contributor Clint Watts and operated under the Alliance for Securing Democracy, a think tank founded in 2017 — shortly after former President Trump took office.

The ASD Advisory Council included such figures as top Clinton ally John Podesta, Obama-era acting CIA Director Michael Morell, former US Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, and former conservative activist Bill Kristol.

What a surprise such figures were involved.

I keep on saying, the real collusion with Russia, was by the Democrats – McFaul is a registered (D).

PS Lefties – Hamilton was a loser, economic crank, an idiot and not much of a man, who died by way of a duel he provoked.

alwaysright
alwaysright
January 31, 2023 3:58 pm

10 days domestic violence leave

Will you please whip me now Mistress?
I’m hoping that this is enough for 10 days off work.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 31, 2023 3:59 pm

What are the chances of two major food processing centres in the US each being hit by a plane in the same week?

You mean accidentally, or on purpose? …

Let me remind you of the key bombing targets in war (and of the Greens, which have now taken over most Western Governments)

The Food supply
The Power supply
The Electricity supply
The Transport Network

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 31, 2023 4:03 pm

From Tucker above: Just wait until the US, Australia and Canada realise how vulnerable their wheat crops are to fire sabotage from Extinction Revolution nutters. If they can round up a couple of hundred protesters at an abattoir, just think how many they can shove in cars and supply with matches to drive along wheat fields burning as they go

I have long wondered when wildfire would be recognised as a weapon of war (albeit the Japs did try sending incendiary balloons to the US West Coast), and its not the wheat that would be the issue – organised arson in the Eucalyptus forests of Southern Australia could be catastrophic – just remember our recent ‘angry summers’.

Robert Sewell
January 31, 2023 4:05 pm

ZK2A:

People have been known to disappear in the Western Australian wheatbelt, never to be seen again.

Extinction Revolution don’t believe you, that’s the problem. They think everyone supports their stupid games, and believe they’ll be the last to starve.
Like when they glue themselves to roads, and the coppers give them drinks and hold umbrellas over their heads to keep the sunshine off theie delicate skin.
They never think the cleaners might just turn off the lights and lock the doors when they glue themselves to car room floors.
It’s all a bit of a surprise when the real world intrudes.
How Rude!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 31, 2023 4:05 pm

Gavin Newsom concluded that California residents who are the descendants of slaves are owed at least $223,200 in reparations each, or $569 billion total.

A mere snap, a nothing, a tiny amount.

San Francisco reparations committee proposes a $5 million payment to each Black resident (19 Jan)

Makes Brittany look like a piker.

Chris
Chris
January 31, 2023 4:10 pm

Or buy the ingredients at Bunnings?

Bunning charcoal makes really really terrible gunpowder.
Allegedly.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 31, 2023 4:19 pm

Robert Sewell at 4:05 – Still the best way to deal with Extiction Rebellion characters
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kHOr2WH7V1k
I think they tried something similar with energy traders only to find they weren’t weedy Oxbridge BA types.

Robert Sewell
January 31, 2023 4:20 pm

Chris:

Don’t even talk about hypothetical firebug shit, or vigilantism in response. Keep it off the conversation.
We could have had it with the islamofascists, and didn’t. Instead they figured out trucking into pedestrians.
The media amplify this talk, and that’s how we got Port Arthur.

If you think these idiots haven’t already thought of this, you’re kidding yourself.
Being aware of ER and their agenda is the first step in being able to defeat them.
If you run across any of them get pictures of their faces for when they get called a Terrorist Organisation. Which they will if they continue escalating their destructive agenda. Look at how bad they are in the US, and start thinking about the fires in the US food chain.
Pretending they’re just deluded teenagers is wrong. They’re not cute, or harmless. They’re proto terrorists.

Cassie of Sydney
January 31, 2023 4:22 pm

“Ban surrogacy.”

Yes please.

alwaysright
alwaysright
January 31, 2023 4:32 pm

The inter-connection of electricity between the states has allowed the power vandals in South Australia and Victoria to get away with the destruction of their existing power generation.

It’s time to get rid of the inter-connectors.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 31, 2023 4:38 pm

Dot

I keep on saying, the real collusion with Russia, was by the Democrats – McFaul is a registered (D).

PS Lefties – Hamilton was a loser, economic crank, an idiot and not much of a man, who died by way of a duel he provoked.

The DNC/MSM leftard talking points system seems to have decided that their best response to the Twatter disclosures is to ignore them, rather than highlight them by attempting to explain them away. The approved “talking point” is to say nothing, confirmed by the lack of responses from m0nty=fa since trying weakly to explain the first drop as a “nothingburger”, only about Hunter’s “nine-inch hog”.

Clearly, Musk is quite happy to expose the shenanigans of his predecessors, to keep them off his back. The near future will expose a lot of vile creatures linked to “Old” Twitter.

Robert Sewell
January 31, 2023 4:42 pm

H B Bearsays:
January 31, 2023 at 4:19 pm

Robert Sewell at 4:05 – Still the best way to deal with Extiction Rebellion characters
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kHOr2WH7V1k
I think they tried something similar with energy traders only to find they weren’t weedy Oxbridge BA types.

Yes, that was as funny as…

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 31, 2023 4:44 pm

Great news for employers with more than 15 staff. From tomorrow, all your employees are “entitled” to 10 days domestic violence leave. From 1 August, all employers are caught.

Hopefully there is mandatory reporting.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 31, 2023 4:45 pm

Surrogacy is slavery.
And it should be regulated.
If it’s banned, it just goes off the grid & becomes even worse slavery.

JC
JC
January 31, 2023 4:50 pm

feelthebern says:
January 31, 2023 at 4:44 pm

Great news for employers with more than 15 staff. From tomorrow, all your employees are “entitled” to 10 days domestic violence leave. From 1 August, all employers are caught.

Hopefully there is mandatory reporting.

What evidence is required that someone received a hiding? Do you know?

Dot
Dot
January 31, 2023 4:50 pm

There’s a lot of suspect stuff about Alexander Hamilton.

College student but becomes an officer very rapidly through connections and not merit.
Only major military leader in American War of Independence with a history of duelling.
Not only a slave owner, but married into a slaver family.
He tried to kill Burr in a duel he provoked (Burr was an early abolitionist).
He had taken part in eight prior duels, he tried to “restore his honour” by throwing the shot, against the duelling code, but part of his own bizarre moral code, however he did so incompetently and Burr shot back and killed him.
Wrote a version of the US constitution with multiple layers of electoral colleges, Presidents and Senators in office for life.
An early adulterer in the executive branch.
Creation of a central bank based on somewhat of a ponzi scheme funded by booze excise.

I can understand why the Cathedral of modern progressiveness worships this nutter.

Bruce
Bruce
January 31, 2023 4:51 pm

The Arts End!

This new Bolshevist diktat about Oz “content” and “character” would be a hoot were it not for for the obvious Stalinism implicit and explicit.

There is also a hideous stench of the late “10BA” of “Avocado Plantation” fame, the results of which set actual commercial success back a couple of decades.

Mel Brooks utterly nailed the caper; sans the toxic hand of government dispensing taxpayers money to pay for dreck, (and fancy houses cars, hookers, and nose candy by the usual suspects).

This, like so much else, is ONLY about the “spillage”, and who soaks it up.

JC
JC
January 31, 2023 4:54 pm

Except there was no collusion with Russia. Neocons, ConInc, Dems, etc. invented these stories to harm Trump and to poison the well further re Russia.

1. What’s ConInc?

2. Who were the NeoCons peddling collusion? The most notable NeoCon anti-Trumper is Bill Kristol, but I never recall him buying into the collusion bullshit.

Dot
Dot
January 31, 2023 4:55 pm

Obama’s hot mike comments to Medvedev were damning, plain to hear, easily verified by forgotten by the MSM.

Robert Sewell
January 31, 2023 4:57 pm

Feelthebern:

Great news for employers with more than 15 staff. From tomorrow, all your employees are “entitled” to 10 days domestic violence leave. From 1 August, all employers are caught.

Hopefully there is mandatory reporting.

Yes. But it has the potential to bounce back on the male. Will there be mandatory medical examinations? Will the doc?(I hope it’s not the coppers or an inexperienced nurse or some bloke off the street) be able to diagnose and tell the difference between self/friend inflicted for revenge against the old man?
This hasn’t been well thought out.
Or it’s been very well thought out by a pack of neurotic sheilahs.
It’s going to be a he said/she said free for all with blokes unable to defend themselves without film of every interaction with the malevolent one.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 31, 2023 5:02 pm

feelthebernsays:
January 31, 2023 at 4:44 pm
Great news for employers with more than 15 staff. From tomorrow, all your employees are “entitled” to 10 days domestic violence leave. From 1 August, all employers are caught.

Hopefully there is mandatory reporting.

I think that laws are already in place in most states, requiring reporting of suspected DV cases to police.

calli
calli
January 31, 2023 5:02 pm

I have difficulty imagining a woman carrying, giving birth and then giving away her child for money.

This is not female empowerment. This is poverty and temptation and wickedness.

We have a bizarre disconnect here – girls in the past forced to surrender their babies for adoption (and how the media loves to dramatise this) and today where the poor are paid incubators, mainly for pouves. You go girl!

JC
JC
January 31, 2023 5:03 pm

Or it’s been very well thought out by a pack of neurotic sheilahs.

Naaaa, ya think?

calli
calli
January 31, 2023 5:04 pm

Surrogacy is slavery.
And it should be regulated.

Let’s regulate slavery too?

JC
JC
January 31, 2023 5:04 pm

Apologies. I thought the last comment was posted by Dot.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 31, 2023 5:05 pm

JC, Kristol & Frum led the change.
Being anti Trump washed away all their Iraq sins.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 31, 2023 5:05 pm

JC

The complaint is sufficient for the employer to report the matter to police.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 31, 2023 5:06 pm

Voice of hypocrites

The Spectator Australia

A hurried visit by Prime Minister Anthony Albanese to Alice Springs this week highlights everything that is wrong with his grandiose proposal to enshrine an indigenous Voice to parliament in the constitution.

The election of Mr Albanese’s Labor government in May preceded the expiry, two months later, of alcohol bans in 32 town camps, 12 remote communities and 215 homelands and outstations in the Northern Territory (NT). The bans had been in place for 15 years, coming into force during the NT Emergency Response in 2007, and continued under Stronger Futures legislation in 2012.

Federal Labor could have extended the bans but didn’t because it sees them as ‘racist’ even though they are strongly supported by many indigenous people and are based on geographical location not race.

Their removal unleashed a horrific and utterly predictable crime wave in Alice Springs. Some 200 children roam the streets at night fleeing domestic violence and engaging in juvenile crime. Last year, the NT police launched Operation Drina to target anti-social behaviour and arrested more than 200 people issuing more than 300 infringement notices but the violence has become worse. It has been highlighted by Darren Clarke who is campaigning for Action For Alice. His bakery has been broken into 41 times in the past three years.

A report released in 2019 showed that even with the bans in place the NT had the the highest rates of alcohol consumption per capita in Australia, with correspondingly high rates of alcohol-fuelled violence and crime. It estimated the total social cost of alcohol in 2015-16 at more than $1.3 billion with the cost of alcohol-related crime calculated to be $142 million. It found alcohol responsible for up to 11 per cent of cases of child abuse and neglect and 50 per cent of road crash deaths.

In response to the violence, new Country Liberal senator for the Northern Territory Jacinta Nampijinpa Price and the new member for the federal seat of Lingiari, Marion Scrymgour, both of whom represent the Alice Springs area, called for restrictions to be re-imposed. Ms Price called for the return of the bans and Ms Scrymgour called for restrictions on some days. Both were completely ignored by Mr Albanese who took his lead instead from the NT Labor government’s Chief Minister Natasha Fyles.This underlines everything that is wrong with Mr Albanese’s plan. Instead of listening to democratically elected local women with first-hand knowledge of the problems and constructive suggestions for the solution, Mr Albanese listened to a Labor leader from the left faction who also ignored the advice of local indigenous women. Mr Albanese has been more interested in talking about the Voice to parliament than protecting Aboriginal men, women and children from the scourge of crime and violence. Neither he nor Ms Fyles want ‘race-based’ solutions to alcohol abuse but are backing a race-based Voice to parliament.

Ms Price criticised the Prime Minister for being quick to provide resources to the Ukraine while turning a blind eye to the violence in the territory. And Ms Scrymgour belled the cat when she said this week that ‘the Voice couldn’t be further from people’s view’ in Alice Springs because they were ‘under siege’. They were asking why they should support the Voice if they can’t even get police to protect them while they are sleeping in their own homes?

As proof that it is impossible for an indigenous Voice to speak for all Aboriginal people, indigenous leader Noel Pearson, one of the creators of the Voice proposal, attacked both Ms Price and Greens senator Lidia Thorpe for opposing it. In return, Ms Thorpe attacked Mr Pearson, posting a photo of him with News Corp chairman Rupert Murdoch and former Liberal prime minister Tony Abbott and tweeted, ‘Noel has me holding hands with Jacinta Price lol. Who’s holding your hand, Uncle?’

Ms Thorpe has reiterated the call for Australian property owners to pay a weekly ‘rent’ tax to indigenous groups who claim to own the land. Such proposals have been around for more than 50 years. Ms Thorpe does not say whether she has paid any rent to traditional owners. It seems unlikely.

Elsewhere, Tennis Australia refused to celebrate Australia Day at the Australian Open but happily celebrates a Gay Pride day. If Gay Pride is so important to Tennis Australia, perhaps it could explain why it is happy to accept sponsorship from Emirates which is owned by the government of Dubai, when Article 177 of the Penal Code of Dubai imposes imprisonment for up to ten years for consensual sodomy. Sadly, it seems, from Darwin to Dubai, fashionable leftists are more interested in trumpeting their virtues than alleviating the suffering of marginalised people.

Link – probably paywalled

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 31, 2023 5:06 pm

Let’s regulate slavery too?

We already do.

Dot
Dot
January 31, 2023 5:07 pm

Don’t worry, surrogacy is becoming obsolete.

The artificial womb is coming whether we like it or not and the implications are earth shattering.

Neither male sperm or female eggs are required anymore either.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 31, 2023 5:07 pm

Prostitution is slavery.
That’s why it needs to be regulated.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 31, 2023 5:08 pm

Surrogacy is slavery.
And it should be regulated.

One of the subthemes of The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress, by Heinlein. I don’t have a problem with surrogacy particularly, except it should be only allowed for conventional marriages between a man and a woman.

It’d be nice if the primary theme of that novel occurred: Elon builds a Moon colony and declares independence.

As to the other main subtheme, sorry but I am increasingly disliking artificial intelligences.

AI: World likely to hit key warming threshold in 10-12 years (Phys.org, 30 Jan)

The problem for AIs is GIGO. If you feed them lies they have no choice but to believe them.

Dot
Dot
January 31, 2023 5:08 pm

What’s the difference between a farmer and a slave?

calli
calli
January 31, 2023 5:08 pm

How so, bern?

I feel like I’m a slave sometimes. Often my own doing.

JC
JC
January 31, 2023 5:08 pm

Bern

I’m kind of surprised, as I can’t recall Kristol joining the Wussiagate hoax. Frum is just a dick, and although I can’t recall, it wouldn’t shock me.

P
P
January 31, 2023 5:09 pm

ClubsNSW chief executive sacked after religious comments
SMH

The chief executive of the state’s powerful clubs lobby, Josh Landis, has been sacked after he linked NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet’s religion with his push for gambling reform.

Clubs NSW on Tuesday afternoon issued a statement confirming Landis’ tenure would end with immediate effect.

JC
JC
January 31, 2023 5:12 pm

Dot says:
January 31, 2023 at 5:08 pm

What’s the difference between a farmer and a slave?

Who cares? Slavery gets a bad rap. I had a carbon slave for years until he took off. MetroMick would get on a bike and peddle for hours offsetting a portion of our household emissions. If he’s ever caught, it’s very bad for him.

calli
calli
January 31, 2023 5:12 pm

Popping out a baby isn’t like popping a pimple. It comes at a phenomenal physical and emotional cost. Only the poor, with a very few exceptions, do it of necessity.

And the creepy career feminists are silent.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 31, 2023 5:12 pm

Almost all supply chains are supported by slavery.
Just because you have to go to some far flung places to see it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 31, 2023 5:14 pm

It’s ironic that Canada has both a booming surrogacy industry & a boom euthanasia industry.

Dot
Dot
January 31, 2023 5:14 pm

Prostitution is slavery.

Slaves may enter into slavery but they don’t to get to choose to leave. Is Charlie Sheen’s old gf still doing porn? Did she try to stop? Does she still take the money? Did she go back because no one wants to give her a job?

What is prostitution?

Sex for money.
Sex in lieu of rent or drugs.?
Pornography..?
Stripping…..?
OnlyFans………?
Getting any job at all because you’re good looking…………..?
Working 70 hour weeks and being rewarded by being given sex once a year………………….?
Working as an incredulous inner western sydney economic adviser saying the NDIS or Federal road spending creates $13 of GDP per every dollar spent.

JC
JC
January 31, 2023 5:16 pm

Boambee John says:
January 31, 2023 at 5:05 pm

JC

The complaint is sufficient for the employer to report the matter to police.

Oh really. Wow! So now we’re getting bosses bosses to dob in employee spouses. Workplace relations are going to be fabulous.

The family business is now just over that number and we used to have an old gal working there who every 3 months or so would waltz into work with either a fat lip or a black eye. It was always the fault of a door slamming into her in some peculiar way. One time it was both!

JC
JC
January 31, 2023 5:18 pm

feelthebern says:
January 31, 2023 at 5:14 pm

It’s ironic that Canada has both a booming surrogacy industry & a boom euthanasia industry.

That’s what you call a zero sum game – kind of like trading.

Robert Sewell
January 31, 2023 5:18 pm

Boambee John:

The complaint is sufficient for the employer to report the matter to police.

Is the claim of DV Leave sufficient for the grant of leave, because you don’t have to supply anything beyond “Medical Reason” on a S/L form -IIRC.
My mask exemption form just says ‘suffers from a medical condition’.
I think the lawyers/police are going to have a bit of a problem accepting this paperwork.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 31, 2023 5:18 pm

If rich countries don’t regulate surrogacy, the inhabitants of the rich countries will go to poorer countries to take advantage of the impoverished.
It’s just reducing the level of abuse that will occur.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 31, 2023 5:19 pm

That’s what you call a zero sum game – kind of like trading.

Is that a straddle?
Or a strangle?
Haven’t touched ETO’s for years.

Dot
Dot
January 31, 2023 5:19 pm

Can I call in sick for DV leave citing Catholic gut now? I heard some guy say it on the radio yesterday.

“Ooh bless me father I won’t be in cleaning the presbytery tooday or until Michaelmas, for I’ve the Catholic gut y’see, the good folk and sidhe have cursed me for my enlightened world views an’ da turd time fa steppin’ ‘nside a fairy fort without whipping myself afterwards with a sprig of stawberry tee…”

Dot
Dot
January 31, 2023 5:22 pm

One time it was both!

A summa cum laude graduate of slip & fall school.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 31, 2023 5:22 pm

The chief executive of the state’s powerful clubs lobby, Josh Landis, has been sacked

Excellent news.

GWGB.

JC
JC
January 31, 2023 5:23 pm

It would be interesting to get the Driller’s view on prostitution, as one time he told us he was unsuccessful in getting approval to turn the motel into a brothel or having rights to sell rooms by the hour.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 31, 2023 5:30 pm

Great news for employers with more than 15 staff. From tomorrow, all your employees are “entitled” to 10 days domestic violence leave. From 1 August, all employers are caught.

If an employee takes time off due to domestic violence, isn’t it then incumbent upon the employer to report the DV to the police? And the police to investigate?

Surely we can tolerate nothing but zero-tolerance!

cohenite
January 31, 2023 5:31 pm

Yeah, the liars DV policy of leave is about as well thought out as biden.

Mandatory reporting will fall on the employer but good luck if the worker is rorting the system. Similar issues arise in the FL system where claims of DV have decreased because reporting became mandatory and evidence had to be supplied.

Dot
Dot
January 31, 2023 5:31 pm

We can only hope, ML.

JC
JC
January 31, 2023 5:32 pm

I didn’t know about this. Kristol was a complete skunk.

A left-wing think tank erroneously claiming to track Russian online activity was responsible for thousands of bogus stories asserting the nation’s influence in US politics, according to the latest batch of Twitter Files.

The Hamilton 68 “dashboard” was the brainchild of former FBI special agent and MSNBC contributor Clint Watts and operated under the Alliance for Securing Democracy, a think tank founded in 2017 — shortly after former President Trump took office.

The ASD Advisory Council included such figures as top Clinton ally John Podesta, Obama-era acting CIA Director Michael Morell, former US Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, and former conservative activist Bill Kristol.

I just remembered there was also the Lincoln Project, but that was just a money making operation for the founders. They were total scum.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 31, 2023 5:35 pm

In the Latrobe Valley.

Everyone’s pasty white and weird.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 31, 2023 5:36 pm

I just remembered there was also the Lincoln Project, but that was just a money making operation for the founders.

& a vehicle for one of the founders to feel up the young blokes stupid enough to intern there.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 31, 2023 5:41 pm

Domestic violence leave has to be applied for using the honour system. Has to be.

There are endless categories of DV, not just getting the rounds of the kitchen.

There’s ‘verbal abuse’, ‘economic violence’ (he wouldn’t give me cash for X), and ‘coercive behaviour’ which, in a Captain Obvious moment, could mean anything. Absolutely anything.

This will be a monumental, ill thought-out expensive rorted cock up of Biblical proportions, and which will make the NDIS look like a frugal well-regulated Fit for purpose triumph.

JC
JC
January 31, 2023 5:41 pm

A few days ago, the NY Post reported on Hamilton68, suggesting it was a total scam. Even the far-left Twitter executives were pushing back against these liars. Just wow! How dishonest would you have to have been if Twitter scumbags were pushing back on anti-Trump propaganda?

“I think we need to just call this out on the bulls–t is,” Twitter’s then-head of trust and safety Yoel Roth wrote in an October 2017 email. “Hamilton dashboard falsely accuses a bunch of legitimate right-leaning accounts of being Russian bots,” he added in January 2018.

Emails in the disclosure show that Twitter’s own internal audits repeatedly showed that accounts flagged by Hamilton 68 were not Russian bots.

Yoel Roth Roth wanted to publicly push back against Hamilton 68.

“It was a scam. … Hamilton 68 simply collected a handful of mostly real, mostly American accounts, and described their organic conversations as Russian scheming,” wrote Matt Taibbi, who released the latest tranche of files Friday.

Hamilton 68’s pronouncements were used to allege a hidden Russian hand in US politics from hundreds, and possibly thousands, of news stories during the Trump years.

While Roth wanted to publicly push back against Hamilton 68, he was warned against taking on

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 31, 2023 5:43 pm

Random caPitals.

It’s the device I’m using. I’m not one of those people.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

feelthebern says: January 31, 2023 at 4:44 pm

Great news for employers with more than 15 staff. From tomorrow, all your employees are “entitled” to 10 days domestic violence leave. From 1 August, all employers are caught.

Hopefully there is mandatory reporting.

From a quick read of the thread, it seems there is a belief that “Domestic Violence Leave” will require some actual .. y’know.. domestic violence (eg, black eyes or somesuch)

Hahahaah… y’all should know our betters in the parasite caste by now.

I’ve gotta go to the Post Office before it closes at 5pm, so I’ll find the email with the definition later.
IIRC Domestic Violent Leave can be taken if the employee is “feeling a bit of pressure or toxicity in their home life”

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 31, 2023 5:45 pm

JCsays:
January 31, 2023 at 5:16 pm
Boambee John says:
January 31, 2023 at 5:05 pm

JC

The complaint is sufficient for the employer to report the matter to police.

Oh really. Wow! So now we’re getting bosses bosses to dob in employee spouses. Workplace relations are going to be fabulous.

The family business is now just over that number and we used to have an old gal working there who every 3 months or so would waltz into work with either a fat lip or a black eye. It was always the fault of a door slamming into her in some peculiar way. One time it was both!

JC

If she says she walked into a door, or a door slammed on her, then you should accept her claim.

If, however, an employee alleges a criminal act of domestic violence, then what choice have you? First you ask for a copy of the police report, to validate the claim. If there is no police report, but the claim for DV leave is pursued, then surely you must report this criminal act to the police, after telling the employee that, no police involvement, no leave. The claim might be withdrawn then, saving you the cost of the leave.

Don’t forget to keep full records.

JC
JC
January 31, 2023 5:46 pm

feelthebern says:
January 31, 2023 at 5:36 pm

& a vehicle for one of the founders to feel up the young blokes stupid enough to intern there.

Oh yea, they were trying to bend over the young guys working there.

You know,  all the anti-Trumpers collectively were and are  a freaking chamber of horrors. Every single one has a very disfigured personality.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

KD has pretty much nailed it:

Knuckle Dragger says: January 31, 2023 at 5:41 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 31, 2023 5:47 pm

Domestic violence leave has to be applied for using the honour system. Has to be.

The fun implication with this one is that once one partner applies for DV leave it means plod can come in and arrest the other partner for DV.

Two weeks paid leave vs a world of hurt, decisions decisions.

Dot
Dot
January 31, 2023 5:52 pm

“Babe wake up, I need some time off work”

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 31, 2023 5:53 pm

And as soon as they return they are prosecuted and the child is repatriated.

You know that doesn’t happen.

JC
JC
January 31, 2023 5:53 pm

Drills

As you once told us you applied for a license to operate a brothel, we’d like to hear your thoughts on how you would integrate domestic violence laws with hookers. How would you be able to discern if, say, a black eye or a fat lip was meted out by either the pimp or the john? How would you handle the reporting side of things? Not easy, right?

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 31, 2023 5:53 pm

JCsays:
January 31, 2023 at 5:41 pm
A few days ago, the NY Post reported on Hamilton68, suggesting it was a total scam. Even the far-left Twitter executives were pushing back against these liars. Just wow! How dishonest would you have to have been if Twitter scumbags were pushing back on anti-Trump propaganda?

“I think we need to just call this out on the bulls–t is,” Twitter’s then-head of trust and safety Yoel Roth wrote in an October 2017 email. “Hamilton dashboard falsely accuses a bunch of legitimate right-leaning accounts of being Russian bots,” he added in January 2018.

This is why Fat Boy has gone silent on what he originally claimed was the “nothingburger” of the threads released by Twitter. The evidence has become so overwhelming that the DNC/MSM axis of evil seem unable to come up with even laughable talking points, much less arguable ones.

I suspect that they are trying to ignore the many releases (up to Number 15 so far), in the hope that they will not be noticed. However, some DemonRats not totally committed to the cause might start to ask questions, so they can’t ignore them forever.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 31, 2023 5:53 pm

It’d be nice if the primary theme of that novel occurred: Elon builds a Moon colony and declares independence.

Travis J.I. Corcoran “The Powers of the Earth” and “Causes of Separation”. You’ll like Mike Martin and his company Morlock Engineering (they make tunnels under the lunar soil). Great ending to the second one.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 31, 2023 5:56 pm

JC

You know, all the anti-Trumpers collectively were and are a freaking chamber of horrors. Every single one has a very disfigured personality.

But enough about Fat Boy, our very own anti-Trumper.

JC
JC
January 31, 2023 5:58 pm

But enough about Fat Boy, our very own anti-Trumper.

Every single one without exception.

Miltonf
Miltonf
January 31, 2023 5:59 pm

You know, all the anti-Trumpers collectively were and are a freaking chamber of horrors. Every single one has a very disfigured personality.

But enough about Fat Boy, our very own anti-Trumper.

and the common thread imo is hatred of the working and middle classes

JC
JC
January 31, 2023 6:00 pm

Hallward:

I’d love to see you go to Mars. It would be a great trip and you’d could report your daily experiences right here at the cat. You’re a natural astronaut.

Miltonf
Miltonf
January 31, 2023 6:01 pm

I’m reminded of that repulsive creature Tom Friedman saying American workers don’t deserve to be paid well just because they’re Americans.

Robert Sewell
January 31, 2023 6:02 pm

Mother Lode:

If an employee takes time off due to domestic violence, isn’t it then incumbent upon the employer to report the DV to the police? And the police to investigate?

If so, it only confirms the government trend of forcing the employer to become the law enforcer – or at least first in the process. Like the mandatory mask and vaxxine enforcement.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 31, 2023 6:02 pm

I have difficulty imagining a woman carrying, giving birth and then giving away her child for money.

Psychopathic Lezzos.
It’s all about the sensation of the baby crowning.

They’re not interested in doing much mothering after that.

Charles Dickens wife appears to have been one of these types.
He tried to have her Committed after #10, but a busybody stymied that.

JMH
JMH
January 31, 2023 6:03 pm

JCsays:
January 31, 2023 at 5:23 pm

It would be interesting to get the Driller’s view on prostitution, as one time he told us he was unsuccessful in getting approval to turn the motel into a brothel or having rights to sell rooms by the hour.

I’ll just leave this here. A blatant reminder as to who orchestrates the foulness on this blog – and with dover’s ongoing sanction. Apparently.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Back from the Post Office.
Here is advice from my industry association:

Full-time, part-time and casual employees will soon be able to access 10 days of paid family and domestic violence leave (FDVL) in a 12-month period. Employees will be able to take this paid leave if they need to deal with the impact of family and domestic violence.

Employees who start on or after the date that the paid FDVL becomes available to them, they can access the full 10 days from their first day. The entitlement will renew every year on each employee’s work anniversary, but it will not accumulate from year to year if not used.

Payment for leave
Full-time and part-time employees can take paid FDVL at their full pay rate for the hours they would have worked if they weren’t on leave.
Casual employees will be paid at their full pay rate for the hours they were rostered to work in the period they took leave.

Full pay includes loadings penalty rates and monetary allowances.

JC
JC
January 31, 2023 6:07 pm

Psychopathic Lezzos.

Eddersly, what about your favorite type of human being and your addiction, which you previously revealed to us? Sluts! How would they handle kids?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 31, 2023 6:07 pm

Popcorn. Delicious popcorn!

Teal MP Monique Ryan accused of breaching Fair Work Act by dismissing Sally Rugg after left-wing activist refused to work additional ‘unreasonable hours’ (31 Jan)

New details have emerged in Sally Rugg’s Federal Court case against independent MP Monique Ryan with the former left-wing campaigner claiming she was wrongfully dismissed.

Ms Rugg filed her application against both Dr Ryan and the Commonwealth government last Wednesday alleging a breach of “general protections” under the Fair Work Act.

Documents which were made public on Tuesday allege Dr Ryan moved to sack her chief of staff after Ms Rugg refused to work additional hours.

Lawyers from Maurice Blackburn representing the high-profile activist are seeking an injunction on the termination until the disagreement is resolved.

They argue Ms Rugg “exercised a workplace right” to refuse additional work hours which were deemed “unreasonable”.

The former chair of the Kevin Rudd-backed Australians for a Murdoch Royal Commission was Dr Ryan’s pick for the top post only six months ago.

This is marvelous fun since Maurice Blackburn are involved, and staffers have routinely been required to work all hours as part of their apprenticeship for high orifice.

So if this gets up all the staffers in Canberra will get to work 9 to 5. Pollies will therefore need twice as many of them. And political parties will have to find munni to pay them. It’ll be epic (except most of it will come from our taxes.)

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 31, 2023 6:09 pm

I can see Driller as a White Slaver, but the Queensland Liquor Licensing Commission takes a dim view.
Viz, 7 days to dispose of the Hotel, then it’s forfeited.

Keeping that fact in mind, I think a call of Bullshit is warranted [again].

JC
JC
January 31, 2023 6:10 pm

I’ll just leave this here. A blatant reminder as to who orchestrates the foulness on this blog – and with dover’s ongoing sanction. Apparently.

Angry Kezza, I/we’re genuinely interested in how the DV laws impact brothel owners or prospective owners. If it outrages you, as it does, then skip the comment, you angry little worm.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 31, 2023 6:11 pm

… Sluts! How would they handle kids?

About as well as you would imagine.

Lysander
Lysander
January 31, 2023 6:11 pm

Is “Catholic gut” a try-hard homonym for “Catholic guilt?”

Chris
Chris
January 31, 2023 6:14 pm

They’re not cute, or harmless.

Totally agree. But if journalists or ‘influencers’ see fears of potential actions they can start repeating stories that create the motive for the perps.
The most famous example of this is Port Arthur. Have you seen the episode of ‘A Current Affair’ partnered up with Roland Browne and Samantha Lee, who taught us ‘We are going to have a massacre in Tasmania!’ in October 1995?

Robert Sewell
January 31, 2023 6:14 pm

There’s an interesting article on Just & Unjust Laws at Epoch Times.
Worth your time reading in regard to vaccinations/masking.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 31, 2023 6:14 pm

DB, are you saying when the child born via surrogacy arrives in Australia that he/she will be sent back home overseas?
Hypothetically, of course.

Cassie of Sydney
January 31, 2023 6:15 pm

Surrogacy is highly regulated in Australia, states only allow altruistic surrogacy, commercial surrogacy is banned and it’s a criminal offense in this country. Good. I’m even opposed to altruistic surrogacy but at least in this country it’s regulated. The USA is the wild west when it comes to surrogacy, just like it is with the whole transgender cult. This is why many gay men now head to the US to buy their toy babies, except that the babies aren’t toys, they’re real human babies and the women they use are almost always poor. I regard it as no different to prostitution, it preys on poor women.

I would also ban donor sperm, perhaps those who think otherwise should read Sarah Dingle’s book “Brave New Humans”. It isn’t a pretty story, and Dingle would know, she was 27 when she learnt that she had been conceived using a sperm donor.

IVF, sperm clinics and surrogacy, there’s lots of money involved, and none of it is altruistic.

I know some people might think my views as harsh and old-fashioned but I don’t believe it’s a right to have a child. We now live in a society obsessed about “rights”, but these rights are selfish rights, it’s all about me, me, me. Nothing about responsibilities or the child and so on.

As Sarah Dingle writes, it’s an innate human desire to know where you come from. It is also a fundamental right to know where you come from. This seems to be missing from the plethora of selfish rights that consume and define so much of the western world nowadays.

Indolent
Indolent
January 31, 2023 6:20 pm

I don’t really agree with all his points but he’s generally pretty on the mark.

2023.01.30 About The Coming Race Riots

Bar Beach Swimmer
January 31, 2023 6:22 pm

Can someone put up Craig Emerson’s column in today’s AFR, please? Thank you

Miltonf
Miltonf
January 31, 2023 6:22 pm

I’ve had the feeling for many years that after the UN was done with Rhodesia and South Africa, they’d come after us.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 31, 2023 6:24 pm

RINOs are fun. This guy is obviously a RINO since he can’t understand why Trump is going to be the 2024 candidate.

Fear Of Trump Paralyzes GOP’s Potential Candidates (31 Jan)

A lot of Republicans are reportedly interested in running for president, yet no one besides Donald Trump has been brave enough to start running. According to Politico, the hesitation is mainly because everyone wants “someone else” to be the “early Trump foil.” An adviser to a potential candidate has even shopped the idea of “multiple candidates announcing around the same time.” One anonymous Republican told Politico, “I think they think a group launch … provides them protection from Trump.”

No Republican seems to have learned any lessons from the 2016 primary. You can’t beat Trump unless you take the fight to Trump, forcefully and consistently – and early.

Trump is already getting 55% or so in primary polls, which probably means two thirds or even more, since Trump voters very often don’t answer pollsters. But the article is a nice insight into the mind of a RINO, since they can’t conceive that GOP elites are totally on the nose with the base and that those people will crawl over broken glass for the Donald, since he represents them.

Ultimately, of course, Trump, DeSantis, or any other Republican, can’t possibly win the 2024 election, because it will be stolen. Again.

JC
JC
January 31, 2023 6:27 pm

Cassie

Leaving the gay issue aside, I agree with you on that score. I have a great deal of empathy for childless couples and their incredibly strong desire to have kids. As you know, I’m in the camp that believes that if an adult doesn’t cause harm to others, they should be free to go about their business. I don’t really see the outward harm caused by surrogacy, where a childless couple gets a child in exchange for paying the surrogate mother to carry the baby.

Adoption? It’s not the same because of the genetic element to it that makes people want their own babies.

dopey
dopey
January 31, 2023 6:28 pm

Klaus Schwab enjoys constipation.

JMH
JMH
January 31, 2023 6:34 pm

JCsays:
January 31, 2023 at 6:10 pm
I’ll just leave this here. A blatant reminder as to who orchestrates the foulness on this blog – and with dover’s ongoing sanction. Apparently.

Angry Kezza, I/we’re genuinely interested in how the DV laws impact brothel owners or prospective owners. If it outrages you, as it does, then skip the comment, you angry little worm.

Dover seems more than happy for the abuse, like this, to continue. Last night’s thread is a prime example. JC must have a hell of a hold over this blog’s administrator.

tommbell
tommbell
January 31, 2023 6:34 pm
Roger
Roger
January 31, 2023 6:36 pm

Looney Tunes:

The Palaszczuk government will this year “invest” $20m in a pop festival which last year supposedly generated $8.4m for a regional economy, including 33 temporary jobs.

In case you’re wondering where this largesses comes from, state public debt will reach c. $20bn this financial year before doubling to $40bn by 2025/26 “if present trends continue”.

If the governmment is prepared to throw $20m at a regional pop festival, I suggest those trends will, indeed, continue.

I don’t know how good the pop festival is, but Palaszcuk & Co, have long since become a rock show (army slang for a disaster).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 31, 2023 6:38 pm

Angry Kezza, I/we’re genuinely interested in how the DV laws impact brothel owners or prospective owners. If it outrages you, as it does, then skip the comment, you angry little worm.

Calm down GMH.
All that has happened is that someone has raised an angle to DV leave as it pertains to brothels.
They have then issued what is a very common invitation around here. That is, if you don’t like it, scroll past.
The “angry little worm” parting shot is harsh, but fair and accurate.
Maybe interacting with others on the innernet ain’t for you if you are so delicate.

cohenite
January 31, 2023 6:40 pm

Indolentsays:
January 31, 2023 at 6:21 pm
BREAKING: HORRIBLE – Arizona Regime Is Investigating Kari Lake And Trying To JAIL Her On Felony Charges For Exercising First Amendment And Exposing Election Fraud

Kari is a brave woman but like all conservatives she still doesn’t understand that the left do not obey any rules and you cannot rely on rules when dealing with them.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 31, 2023 6:41 pm

‘I contribute nothing, but I don’t like it. Dance for me, the way I want.’

HJM

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