Open Thread – Weekend 11 Feb 2023


The Shipwreck on Northern sea, Ivan Aivazovski, 1875


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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 11:41 am

I remember Anthony Albanese promising Australians that by voting for him and his party in last May’s election, Australian families would save roughly $275 annually on energy bills.

I was amused by this one.

‘Desperate war of words’ erupts between Chalmers, Kean over energy bill relief (Sky News, 10 Feb)

Treasurer Jim Chalmers has traded barbs with his New South Wales counterpart Matt Kean over energy bill belief for households.

The support was provided in return for the Commonwealth offering targeted support for select households and small businesses to reduce their electricity bill.

But Mr Kean on Friday said that financial relief has not yet been forthcoming because Mr Chalmers was waiting until the May federal budget to deliver a “PR stunt”.

Wow, climate hypocrites at 10 paces and me without popcorn! At least it says they’re getting stick from the voters, and are under pressure. They won’t of course blame the people who are the actual guilty parties causing the high energy prices, which are themselves.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 11, 2023 11:42 am

As I said earlier, the moment a DA was dispensed with is when I would have run a mile.
Sure.
But this guy didn’t, indicating that he’s dodgy, by his own admission.

And Drumgold has no excuse – he knows when one is required and when it is not.

Hang on a flash, you’re taking the word of a self admitted dodgy builder whose word is worthless, by his own admission.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 11:43 am

From Dr Faustus’ link:

Higgins has also previously complained about police conduct. She requested an internal investigation after sensitive evidence – including her counselling notes – were forwarded to the defence.
She has not yet received the results of that investigation.
Drumgold declined to comment

Is it normal to send this type of evidence to the defence?

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 11:45 am

As opposed to a dodgy lawyer?

Please learn to read.

I said that Thompson put himself in a no win situation.

rickw
rickw
February 11, 2023 11:45 am
Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
February 11, 2023 11:48 am

I think it’s called “disclosure”
If a prosecution wants to table any evidence, the defence are given it before court day. Fresh manilla envelopes and long lost eyewitnesses crashing through the court doors are things that only happen in Hollywood.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 11, 2023 11:48 am

Kirby said the object was about the size of a small car and was at flying about 40,000 feet.

Oh noes! They killed Harry Potter.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 11:48 am

US shoots down unknown ‘high-altitude object’ over Alaska, White House says

It’s February so it probably wasn’t Santa Claus.
One less UFO for the Defense Dept to investigate at least.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 11:49 am

I’d be interested in the scope of works. “Stone” could mean benchtops, so hard to imagine a DA for a kitchen reno. I wonder if it was retaining walls or the like? Then a DA would come into play, for obvious reasons.

Johnny Rotten
February 11, 2023 11:49 am

rickwsays:
February 11, 2023 at 11:23 am
The government will seize super the bail itself out of debt and to keep the welfare train going..

Your retirement is cancelled.

Another factor feeding into my exit plans.

I agree. The Superannuation System now has over 3 Trillion Australian Dollars in it and that is the Accumulation Benefit System – the Market value. The Defined Benefit System is quite different. What people seem to forget is that in the 1980s a Superannuation Fund had to have a certain percentage of its investments in Federal Government and Semi-Government Securities (Debt). And now with so much Government Debt you can see how easily that Debt can be plonked into every Accumulation Benefit account with the Guv’ment wiping out its Debt to start all over again. Meanwhile the Superannuation Holders get SFA on their crap investment (Guv’ment Debt).

Nice work Guv’ment. Watch this space as the Communists (LayBore) will do it.

When I retired, I took all of my money out of the Superannuation System tax free. And I invested it a lot of stuff that the Guv’ment will find tricky to touch without a Revolution.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 11:49 am

Rogersays:
February 11, 2023 at 11:16 am
The “First Nations” ceded sovereignty when they couldn’t defend those “Nations.”

That will end up being decided by the High Court.

Which has already decided that Australia was settled, not invaded. Reverse that, and the legal basis for Native Title disappears.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
February 11, 2023 11:50 am

Mind you, habeas corpus, in-camera testimony and the right to face an accuser have all gone the way of the dodo, so I wouldn’t be surprised if some “evidence” is given special privilege if it’s tear-stained or something.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 11, 2023 11:53 am

I’d say that’s a certainty now.
Simon Benson in yesterday’s The Australian, said that:

… if [Josh Frydenberg] were to run in Aston and win, Dutton would almost certainly face an immediate leadership challenge.

Since Frydenberg’s achievements as a Minister were zero, and Dutton has done extremely well as Opposition Leader, the expectation must be that he won’t survive the Sofronoff Inquiry.

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2023 11:56 am

Is it normal to send this type of evidence to the defence?

Upon a subpoena from the court requesting such documents, yes.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 11, 2023 11:57 am

Which has already decided that Australia was settled, not invaded. Reverse that, and the legal basis for Native Title disappears.

The High Court
overturning a decision of a previous High Court?
When did that ever happen?

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 11:57 am

Ed Casesays:
February 11, 2023 at 11:42 am
As I said earlier, the moment a DA was dispensed with is when I would have run a mile.
Sure.
But this guy didn’t, indicating that he’s dodgy, by his own admission.

And Drumgold has no excuse – he knows when one is required and when it is not.

Hang on a flash, you’re taking the word of a self admitted dodgy builder whose word is worthless, by his own admission.

Richard Cranium

Assuming (a big assumption, I concede) that the Council keeps accurate records, the point is easy to prove or disprove. Is there a DA in the Council records? All your faffing around trying to sound intelligent is just a smokescreen.

Johnny Rotten
February 11, 2023 11:58 am

I didn’t believe that because I’m not that gullible. But many were. Were you one of those gullible voters who voted for Albanese?

I live in Tanya Plebesuck’s electorate so my vote was swamped by all those left wing nut jobs that live in the Sydney CBD.

Robert Sewell
February 11, 2023 11:59 am

Pedro the Loofah:

Trying to watch the cricket on Fox Sports.
Yap,yap, yap, do the commenters ever stop to take a breath?
It is like a tag team gibbering contest. FMD.

No, Pedro. It’s the commentators being aware they are the most important thing on the programme and assuming the audience cannot get enough of them.
It doesn’t occur to them that a very large percentage of the viewers are just that – viewers, not listeners.

m0nty
m0nty
February 11, 2023 12:00 pm

I did like the detail in Bruce Paix’s Cookerpedia entry that his rumbling stomach from a hunger strike interrupted court proceedings.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 11, 2023 12:00 pm

At the 2023 WEF meeting in Davos, Bancel again spoke about mRNA injections, this time stating he’d “like to have mRNA capacity on every continent.”…. It seems they’re well on their way…… as of January 2023, Moderna has 48 programs in development, including “36 programs in clinical trials encompassing investigational mRNA infectious disease vaccine candidates and mRNA therapeutic candidates spanning seven different modalities.”16 In a news release, Bancel reported:17

The above is one MAJOR reason the mRNA/nanoparticle industry is ‘too big to fail’ – they want to apply it broadly across the vax market, and pharmaceuticals in general.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 12:01 pm

Ed Casesays:
February 11, 2023 at 11:57 am
Which has already decided that Australia was settled, not invaded. Reverse that, and the legal basis for Native Title disappears.

The High Court
overturning a decision of a previous High Court?
When did that ever happen?

Richard

Congratulations, you got my point. A new achievement for you.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2023 12:01 pm

Groogs, you seem to be under the misapprehension I was a family lawyer. That’s because you’re an idiot. Check your notes.

Robert Sewell
February 11, 2023 12:01 pm

HBBear:

A New South Wales election candidate has backed away from old social media posts where he called for the Koran to be banned, capital punishment to be reintroduced, and the right to bear arms in public.

Does that get you selected in or out? I better review my posts.

Apart from Capital Punishment, these are all vote getters.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 12:03 pm

LOL, m0nty=fa believes every word in Cookerpedia. How dumb is it possible for him to be? This dumb? Really!

m0nty
m0nty
February 11, 2023 12:03 pm

Dutton has done extremely well as Opposition Leader

Has he? Last I heard he was dampening expectations for the Aston by-election, using the code word “difficult” which generally means that internal hopes are pretty piss poor.

The government hasn’t gained a seat in a federal by-election for over a century.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 11, 2023 12:03 pm

“Stone” could mean benchtops, …

They’re a coupla battleaxe rental houses, so it’s not likely he was putting a rock
retaining wall in.
The guys a bullshitter.
Why put his nailbag on and pose for a photo if he’s legit?

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 11, 2023 12:06 pm

Canberra quinoa belt.

Chortle. (polite golf clap)

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2023 12:07 pm

Selectively preparing areas of the pitch should increase the popularity of cricket. Luckily the BCCI is unlikely to have an issue with it.

rickw
rickw
February 11, 2023 12:09 pm

Apart from Capital Punishment, these are all vote getters.

I dunno, I reckon capital punishment for treason is a winner, especially when people realise that potential candidates are primarily politicians and bureaucrats.

Take a little money from Pfizer to the detriment of the National Interest?! Oooopsie!!

Robert Sewell
February 11, 2023 12:10 pm

Cassie of Sydney:

“every word Vijaya Gadde says is a lie, including ‘and’ and ‘the’.”

In one of the few cases of ‘where there’s smoke, there’s fire’, subcontinentals didn’t get their reputations by being truth tellers.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 11, 2023 12:11 pm

Has he? Last I heard he was dampening expectations for the Aston by-election, using the code word “difficult” which generally means that internal hopes are pretty piss poor.

Here’s the problem:
Tudgey has a strong personal vote in Aston.
That’s gone.
They’re going to run either some career woman with no kids or a Chinese woman to win the Chinese vote.
Both are hopeless propositions.
By the time the By Election is held, voters will have already heard through the Sofronoff Inquiry who was running the Help Bruce Lehrmann Avoid Justice campaign in the Morrison Government.
If it was Scotty, he’ll be punished again.
If it was Dutton, the Liberal Party won’t even have people manning the booths.

Johnny Rotten
February 11, 2023 12:13 pm

I got an email saying “At Google Earth we can read maps backwards!” I thought to myself… that’s just spam.

I called the doctor’s surgery today to get an appointment. “How about ten tomorrow morning?” The receptionist asked. I told her I didn’t need that many. One would do.

m0nty
m0nty
February 11, 2023 12:13 pm

Luckily, the Libs have all those other incumbent urban Melbourne MPs to help out in Aston like… um…

rickw
rickw
February 11, 2023 12:13 pm

The above is one MAJOR reason the mRNA/nanoparticle industry is ‘too big to fail’ – they want to apply it broadly across the vax market, and pharmaceuticals in general.

Would be interesting to test Borla to see if he’s ever taken this shit. Maybe instead of trying to interview him, Project Veritas should instead work on getting a blood sample.

Tom
Tom
February 11, 2023 12:13 pm

Mysteries of life department: why do north Americans (Americans and Canadians) silence the “h” in the word “herbs”?

I’m tipping someone somewhere once misheard something that made them think the sophisticates of Europe pronounced the word “…erbs” without the “h”.

We talk about Australia’s cultural cringe. America’s cultural cringe says “hold my beer”.

Robert Sewell
February 11, 2023 12:15 pm

ZK2A:

There’s an outbreak of sheep stealing in this part of the world.

You’d be at the point of putting up patrolling drones at night.

Some vooking douchenozzle turned off the water on a remote block, didn’t come back, and a mob of young ewes died of thirst.

You’d also be asking why the owner/manager wasn’t doing their water rounds daily. And asking them hard.

Johnny Rotten
February 11, 2023 12:15 pm

Isn’t it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?

– Douglas Adams

JC
JC
February 11, 2023 12:16 pm

Mysteries of life department: why do north Americans (Americans and Canadians) silence the “h” in the word “herbs”?

You that’s been a life mystery for me too. Herb is pronounced as in Herbert, while a herb is erb. I think they’re trying to sound frog.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 11, 2023 12:16 pm

I did like the detail in Bruce Paix’s Cookerpedia entry that his rumbling stomach from a hunger strike interrupted court proceedings.

4 hours monty…..

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 11, 2023 12:16 pm

Then there’s the stated reason Tudgey resigned [spend more time with the family], and the real reason [just a guess, Rachelle Miller told him why she got a $576,000 payout from the Commonwealth].

JC
JC
February 11, 2023 12:18 pm

Tom

Particularly NYC – it’s quite frankophile.

Robert Sewell
February 11, 2023 12:19 pm

Zipster:

really pleased to see the woke f*cks at google about to get smashed, even if its by microsoft

I’ve a Google popup every couple of minutes demanding I sign in to one of their accounts and can’t get rid of it.
Any suggestions apart from acceding to its demands?

rickw
rickw
February 11, 2023 12:21 pm

You’d also be asking why the owner/manager wasn’t doing their water rounds daily. And asking them hard.

That’s the end of career / end of life farming job. Tootle around in the ute and check that everything has water and report on any deaths or other untoward events. Take as many grandkids as will fit in the ute!

m0nty
m0nty
February 11, 2023 12:24 pm

Then there’s the stated reason Tudgey resigned [spend more time with the family], and the real reason [just a guess, Rachelle Miller told him why she got a $576,000 payout from the Commonwealth].

His stated reason of stress (of knowing his Robodebt policies led to two thousand suicides) sounds plausible.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

You’d also be asking why the owner/manager wasn’t doing their water rounds daily. And asking them hard.

Quite so.
Though daily is a bit much of an ask.
Twice a week is the minimum, ideally every 2 days, especially in stinking hot weather.
There’s more things can go wrong than malicious intervention by humans.
Sheep especially require you to do all their thinking for them & then implement that over their robust & obtuse physical non-cooperation.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 11, 2023 12:25 pm

Amsterdam’s tolerance for badly behaved tourists goes up in smoke
Peter Chappell
Friday February 10 2023, 1.55pm GMT, The Times
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Amsterdam will ban smoking cannabis on the streets under plans to curb anti-social behaviour among tourists who “lose their morals” in the city.

A series of regulations, which will take effect in May, aims to improve the lives of residents who have long complained of disruption caused by tourists who visit the cannabis cafés. “The atmosphere becomes dire, particularly at night,” the authorities said this week. “A lot of people are under the influence [of drugs and alcohol] and hang around for a long time.”

The curbing of cannabis in open view is part of efforts by the city, led by the mayor Femke Halsema, to reform its image. “People who have lived here for a very long time feel estranged,” Halsema told Bloomberg last year. “We do not welcome people who come here on a holiday from morals.”

There is already a ban on drinking alcohol in public. Smoking cannabis will be forbidden in public in the inner city, and the authorities will investigate whether they can ban takeaway cannabis sales between 4pm and 1am from Thursday to Sunday nights, according to local reports.

Diederik Boomsma, leader of the local Christian Democrats, told the Dutch News website: “Some days you can’t even walk around the centre without breathing in the persistent stench of cannabis fumes, with glassy-eyed tourist zombies staggering about. That has to stop.”

Under current laws in the Netherlands it is a criminal offence to possess, produce or deal drugs. However, the Dutch have a “toleration policy” that allows coffee shops to sell cannabis under strict conditions. One of those conditions is that coffee shops must not cause any nuisance, and the government has ordered them to stop attracting foreign drug users.

In addition to the new laws, the Amsterdam council will launch a “stay away” campaign in the spring to target tourists travelling to the capital for drugs, alcohol and sex purposes. The Netherlands decriminalised possession of “soft” drugs such as cannabis in 1976.

“We have presented a package with a vision and we must stick to it. We must all put our shoulders to the wheel together behind this vision. Whether you live here, work, do business or visit the city: everyone, ultimately wants a liveable city,” Sofyan Mbarki, a city councillor, told the newspaper Het Parool.

Sex workers will also face tighter restrictions such as having to close their venues at 3am. Almost all councillors supported taking action to improve the lives of residents, many of whom feel their city has been blighted by revellers and tourists only interested in sex and drugs.

The new rules mean all restaurants and bars would have to close by 2am on Fridays and Saturdays and no new visitors would be allowed into the old city district after 1am.

At present the sale of alcohol from shops, liquor stores and cafés in the red light district is illegal from Thursday to Sunday after 4pm. Amsterdam officials will now ask sellers to completely remove alcohol from their shopfronts during that time, or hide it from view. It is illegal to consume alcohol in most public spaces in Amsterdam.

m0nty
m0nty
February 11, 2023 12:25 pm

That’s the end of career / end of life farming job. Tootle around in the ute and check that everything has water and report on any deaths or other untoward events. Take as many grandkids as will fit in the ute!

Sounds like that is flyingduk’s job now too. That’s if he’s not just bludging.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 12:26 pm

Crows may like a multitool, but cockies like a whole toolbox.

Cockatoos know to bring along multiple tools when they fish for cashews (Phys.org, 10 Feb)

“Goffin’s cockatoos are small white parrots that hail from the Tanimbar Islands archipelago in Indonesia. Captive Goffin’s cockatoos use and manufacture tools, and a previous study of wild-caught cockatoos reported that they can use up to three different tools to extract seeds from a particular fruit. Up until now, though, it wasn’t clear whether the cockatoos considered these tools as a “set”; it’s possible that what may look like a toolset is instead nothing more than a chain of single tool uses, with the need for each new tool appearing to the animal as the task evolves.

Now, a team of researchers have used controlled experiments to clarify that the cockatoos do indeed recognize when a job requires more than one tool.

the researchers presented the cockatoos with a box containing a cashew behind a transparent paper membrane. To reach the cashew, the cockatoos had to punch through the membrane and then “fish” the cashew out. They were provided with a short, pointy stick for punching holes and a vertically halved plastic straw for fishing.

Seven of the ten cockatoos tested taught themselves to extract cashews successfully by punching through the membrane, and two of the cockatoos (Figaro and Fini) completed the task within 35 seconds on their first attempt.”

The videos are fun. I especially liked the half-eaten chair in the second one. I’m most certainly not going to introduce the local Cafe cockies to cashew nuts. Had door cockie on my screen door this morning, and that was only for stale bread. One sniff of a cashew and I’d have cockies with chainsaws trying to get in.

(I hope my link to CL’s crow doesn’t cause an outbreak of cute owls from Cohenite.)

Dot
Dot
February 11, 2023 12:26 pm

m0nty says:
February 11, 2023 at 10:55 am
Hey flyingduk, are you the same anaesthetist cooker who got arrested in the ACT for hitting a traffic controller with your car?

No, they hit his car, lied in court and “lost” evidence.

The police and “road worker” are all criminals and are part of a corrupt and evil government.

I for one, don’t approve of this Putin like bull crap.

You’re laughing about this monty.

Robert Sewell
February 11, 2023 12:27 pm

Pogria:

“She hates whites and particularly conservatives. I have a theory that in lots of ways Indians find it harder than most other Asians, including Chinese, to integrate into a white society. I believe their caste system and negative aspects of the dating market is the problem.”

It could also be that Indians are just butt ugly.

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2023 12:29 pm

Mysteries of life department: why do …Americans… silence the “h” in the word “herbs”?

I suspect it goes back to a west country English pronunciation that became standardised in North America before the British added the h.

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 11, 2023 12:32 pm

You’re laughing about this monty.

And he loves Republican representatives taken out. And loves Drag Queen Story Time. And he defends depravity in the Yoel Roth thesis. And laughs at someone who chose to go to real war and serve.
Outstanding monty. Outstanding.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 12:32 pm

Sounds like that is flyingduk’s job now too. That’s if he’s not just bludging.

He’s had seven deployments to the sharp end Monty.
How many have you done?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

It could also be that Indians are just butt ugly.

Not all of them.
She however, is ugly in both character and visage.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 11, 2023 12:40 pm

SO WHY DIDN’T THEY DO THIS LAST TIME?

US shoots down unknown ‘high-altitude object’ over Alaska, White House says. “President Joe Biden ordered the shootdown, spokesman John Kirby said, adding that the origin of the object has yet to be determined.”

What, Gen. Mark Milley didn’t overrule him?

But I hope we don’t start an interstellar war, because it sounds like a flying saucer:

ABC News Chief Global Affairs Correspondent Martha Raddatz first reported that when fighters were scrambled, the pilots did visuals, got images and said there was no sign the object had propulsion.

It was described as “cylindrical and silver-ish gray” and seemed to be floating, a U.S. official said.

Asked if was “balloon-like,” the official said, “All I say is that it wasn’t ‘flying’ with any sort of propulsion, so if that is ‘balloon-like’ well — we just don’t have enough at this point.”

“It came in, inside our territorial waters, those waters right now are frozen, but inside territorial airspace and over territorial waters. Fighter aircraft assigned to U.S. Northern Command took down the object within the last hour,” Kirby said.

Klaatu barada nikto.

UPDATE: From the comments: “So US government and Gibbering Joe shot an object out of the sky without first identifying what the object was? That’s highly irresponsible.”

Johnny Rotten
February 11, 2023 12:42 pm

Boambee Johnsays:
February 11, 2023 at 11:49 am
Rogersays:
February 11, 2023 at 11:16 am
The “First Nations” ceded sovereignty when they couldn’t defend those “Nations.”</em

There never was/were any 'First Nations' on this Continent. They were many, many tribes. Not in any way a Nation. That term of 'First Nations' was pinched from the Canadian natives just recently around the 1970s. Cute stuff but nothing to do with Sovereignty.

There was no sovereignty to 'give up'. As no one had sovereignty. What Nation was here when the British arrived on the 26th of January, 1788? Please provide an answer Mr Albasleasy. And the Attorney General? And anyone else in this shambles of a LayBore Guv'ment. Where was the King or Queen of this Continent and 'Nation' when the British turned up?

No where to be seen. Game over.

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2023 12:48 pm

I suspect it goes back to a west country English pronunciation that became standardised in North America before the British added the h.

Just as the North American accent preserves a strong rhotic pronunciation that went out of fashion in most of England sometime after North America was settled. It’s not American English that has changed in this regard, but British English (and the versions of it spoken in the colonies established after North America).

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 11, 2023 12:50 pm

A very good comment from an old fella I know after a chat about our trip to India.
“Why aren’t we arming India instead of Ukraine? They’re country that’ll have to fight China for us.”

Eyrie
Eyrie
February 11, 2023 12:54 pm

Why do Americans pronounce “solder”, “sodder”?

Tom
Tom
February 11, 2023 12:56 pm

He’s had seven deployments to the sharp end Monty.
How many have you done?

All leftists are cowards who hate their country.

So of course they contribute nothing and look to the government to give them (endless) Free Stuff.

Monty in a foxhole somewhere defending Australia? Even if he wanted to, he’d never live it down among his coward mates.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 12:57 pm

Gez – India has nukes. They can look after themselves.

We have no nukes. We therefore should be arming ourselves not anyone else.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Why do Americans pronounce “solder”, “sodder”?

Likewise they mispronunce; abyss, mirror, missile, caramel, worcestershire, & lotsa others I can’t remember right now.

johanna
johanna
February 11, 2023 1:01 pm

Those who enjoy a scrag-fight should tune in to Nein – Maori wimmenses v Indig wimmenses Rugby League.

My money would be on the Maori gels – but then again, who knows the real racial composition of the so-called Indigs.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 11, 2023 1:05 pm

The only Wars the Chinese fight are with other Chinese.
See:
#1. Taiping Rebellion
#2. Chinese Civil War

Meanwhile, Marlesy just signed a Mutual Defence Pact with Indonesia [Army of 400,000 trained killers].
Aussie Right Wing garage Nazis acting up?
Kopassus, come on down.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 11, 2023 1:06 pm

Mean Maori versus Abo?
Always bet on the Abo.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

McGrath, buoy, Megan, whore, Z, leisure, mobile, basil, margarine, etc. It’s like they’re speaking in thieves cant.

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2023 1:10 pm

Sodder or sauter (as I hear it) I can’t help with, I’m afraid…puzzles me too.

Bluey
Bluey
February 11, 2023 1:11 pm

I have never believed I would ever get access to my super. If I’d been on the ball I would have taken the withdrawals that were permitted during the covid stupidity and invested it somewhere else.
Given the actions of various aussie governments recently, I doubt there’s anywhere safe to park your money in the country. Only a matter of time before they pull the same crap as Canada and freeze/seize your accounts and assets.
Somewhat similar to rickw, I don’t see any future for me here. But, also don’t see anywhere that’s worth running to in the western world. Bit bloody sad for someone who’s family have been here from before federation.
Rather telling too, that most of the really switched on people I’ve known have left.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 1:11 pm

Richard Cranium still desperately defending the prosecutor in the Mizzz Knickerless case. He has a lot invested in this, on behalf of the party he is shilling for – Labor.

Frank
Frank
February 11, 2023 1:13 pm

Mysteries of life department: why do north Americans (Americans and Canadians) silence the “h” in the word “herbs”?

Lately they have been dropping the D from words like “couldn’t” and replacing them with a sort of glottal stop. It sounds cute in a three year old but you try to train them out of it. Not so good in a thirty something news reader, suggestive of imbecility.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2023 1:14 pm

callisays:

February 11, 2023 at 11:33 am

No Development Approval does not equal dodgy work. Thompson put himself in a no-win situation.

Correct.
Similar as in min’s case. Departure from drawings does not necessarily mean the work is suss either.

At that moment, when instructed by his customer (someone, incidentally, in a very high position in legal circles) to proceed without approval, he should have run a mile.

Yep.
Not as if he wouldn’t have had plenty of work he could pick up if he was any good.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 1:14 pm

Ed Casesays:
February 11, 2023 at 12:16 pm
Then there’s the stated reason Tudgey resigned [spend more time with the family], and the real reason [just a guess, Rachelle Miller told him why she got a $576,000 payout from the Commonwealth].

Don’t hold back, tell us the reason.

lotocoti
lotocoti
February 11, 2023 1:18 pm

Bridge attack.
At some point, electronic warfare counters on the battlefield will become so pervasive,
Lo Tech will be the new game changer.

sfw
sfw
February 11, 2023 1:18 pm

I know some here like the Ilse of Man motorcycle races, easy to see why. Funny enough they’re not the hairiest road races in the world, that title belongs to Irish motorcycle road racing, street circuits but with mass starts not TT conditions, amazing stuff. The do gooders have been trying to shut them down for years, well it looks like they are getting their way. All racing for this year has been cancelled by the controlling body due to insurance costs, I think the premium for this year is around 400,000 pounds, way too much for a small sport.

A sample, they’ve got watermelons where I have split peas, and I’ve road raced TZ’s and sidecars here in Oz -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpg4MKMQLwo

Info – https://www.goodwood.com/grr/race/modern/2023/2/all-northern-irish-road-racing-cancelled/#:~:text=All%20motorcycle%20road%20racing%2C%20short,and%20will%20continue%20as%20planned.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 1:18 pm

Dot

No, they hit his car, lied in court and “lost” evidence.

The police and “road worker” are all criminals and are part of a corrupt and evil government.

I for one, don’t approve of this Putin like bull crap.

You’re laughing about this monty.

Remember when leftards used to get upset about Police “verbals”? Now fascists like m0nty=fa applaud them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2023 1:23 pm

Trying to watch the cricket on Fox Sports.
Yap,yap, yap, do the commenters ever stop to take a breath?
It is like a tag team gibbering contest. FMD.

The worst is Justin Langer.
I felt some sympathy for him when he got tipped out as coach but, after hearing him drone on in TV commentary, I can see why the players were calling, “Please make it stop!”.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 11, 2023 1:24 pm

Busy caring for an autistic three year old, so didn’t notice the time and barely the date, so here is a comment I put on the end of the old thread:

Anyone on the ground could see the balloon in the sky without any sort of specialized equipment. To believe this was meant as a secret spycraft, you’d have to believe the Chinese authorities are just absolute morons, which (whatever else they might be) clearly isn’t true.

Not long before we visited the DMZ in South Korea the North Koreans sent up four drones over the territory beyond the DMZ thus into South Korea. The South Koreans sent up six fighter jets immediately in response, to shoot them down, although they are so small it was difficult to do so.

These drones were not intended as anything but what the South Koreans call ‘provocation’, just saying nah, nah, narny nah nah. This Chinese balloon is provocation of the same sort. It was a mistake for Biden to let them get away with it. OTT counter-responses seem to work better. There haven’t been any more drones over from North Korea since. Relationships with the North see-saw, they are currently on a downward move. At one stage in they were so good that the SK’s built and partly staffed a major industrial complex producing consumer durables right there in NK over the other side of the DMZ. It is now empty and unused.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 11, 2023 1:26 pm

The most beautiful woman I’ve ever seen was Indian. The second best was Turkish. Third equal, my wife and daughter.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 11, 2023 1:27 pm

Flying Duk,
My understanding is Dr Thomas Borody was the Aussie Dr who initially advised Clive and then contacted FLCC. Borody had treated 500 in Sydney with Ivermectin and I believe other drugs and then Clive followed FLCC protocol.

What a lot of people forget is that for the first year, pre vaccines, the Government Health advice was go home and wait until got sick enough to go to hospital.
For frontline Dr’s that was not good enough and they came up with off label medicines.

Kory showed showed a graph showing prescriptions of IVM going up until one week was 90,000 and that was what triggered the horse dewormer smear campaign.

Some may recall the fake story about an Oklahoma hospital where the article said multiple gun shot wound cases were being delayed treatment due to multiple cases of overdosing on horse dewormer coming in. Found to be totally false. Kory role played well the dewormer victims pushing ahead of the gunshot wound cases in the ER queue.

John Leake the joint author on McCullough book and Kory said all roads lead to Bill Gates in relation to capture of media and financial gain.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 11, 2023 1:27 pm

The only Wars the Chinese fight are with other Chinese.

Korea, anyone?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 11, 2023 1:30 pm

Politics live news Australia: I’ll be first PM to march in Mardi Gras: Albanese
Anthony Albanese taking part in the 2020 Mardi Gras parade. Picture: AAP
Anthony Albanese taking part in the 2020 Mardi Gras parade. Picture: AAP

By Joanna Panagopoulos
6:12AM February 11, 2023
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I’ll be first PM to march in Mardi Gras: Albanese
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JOANNA PANAGOPOULOS

Anthony Albanese will become the first prime minister to march in the Sydney Mardi Gras parade.

“I’ll … be the first prime minister not to watch the march on Mardi Gras but to march with the community,” he told attendees at the opening on Saturday of Pride Square in Sydney’s Newtown, ahead of the WorldPride event taking place February 17-March 5.

“A huge shout-out to everyone that has made this happen. A huge shout-out to the 78ers and all those who’ve struggled for human rights … The next month will be a fantastic celebration with Pride coming here to Australia in a celebration,” the Prime Minister said.

The 78ers were a group of LGBT activists who marched in the first Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras parade on June 24, 1978.

Mr Albanese spoke about the importance of equality, as well as tolerance.

“We speak a lot about tolerance and tolerance is really important but this is about a step that is way more important than tolerance,” he said.

“We need to celebrate our diversity, not just tolerate it. Because our diversity is what gives our society strength. It’s what makes us a microcosm for the world when we see so much conflict.

“We can become a beacon for the world. One that says, regardless of who you believe in, who you love, what your gender is, or what your ethnicity is, you will be given respect.

johanna
johanna
February 11, 2023 1:31 pm

or over 30 years, I was forced to ‘invest’ in Super by having my employer remove money from each paycheck. Now that I need it in my ‘retirement’, I can only have it back if I pay a 32% tribute to the government (they ‘retired’ me before retirement age you see).

I worked out years ago that they were going to steal ALL your super (if not outright by seizure, then by rolling your funds into one single, ‘safe’, government pot from which you got paid an ever more worthless pension in printed fiat – ‘in response to overwhelming public demand for safety’). Hence, I started saving *outside* of super. I bought precious metals and bitcoin, both of which have appreciated nicely, and can be accessed whenever I wish.

Oh yes, Dr Duk.

When I withdrew from the APS and formerly the NSW PS, I took steps to be able to cash out every penny. I paid off my house and invested the rest.

It’s a two-punch. First, taking your money will ensure a comfortable retirement (it won’t, never has and never will) and second, your money is secure. No, it isn’t, and anyone who thinks that politicians will not notice this enormous honeypot is delusional.

Zipster
February 11, 2023 1:33 pm
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 11, 2023 1:34 pm

Frank what about Short Willie’s pronunciation of wiff and finking. Yes I know there is more than a wiff and he’s certainly a fink but that’s not what he was talking about. Lazy speech.

Megan
Megan
February 11, 2023 1:36 pm

McGrath, buoy, Megan, whore, Z, leisure, mobile, basil, margarine, etc. It’s like they’re speaking in thieves cant.

You rang?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 11, 2023 1:39 pm

There was an Aussie Dr, Melissa McCann, who spoke first at the event. Had only vaguely heard of her before as being behind a vaccine victim class action case.

She is a GP from a 15,000 people town in Whitsunday area. She did not give too many jabs herself so most of her normal clients were getting them elsewhere but she was the one dealing with injuries. She had 4 myocarditis cases in one week and realised if her small practice was seeing that then what was the big picture. She also mentioned increased miscarriages.

She was an impressive speaker and obvious why chosen to support McCullough and Kory. No doubt Clive supporting the class action case.

No matter what your thoughts about Clives politics he has been a strong advocate for vaccine injured and has spent considerable money assisting others since this started.

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2023 1:39 pm

“We need to celebrate our diversity, not just tolerate it.”

Hear that? We need to celebrate it.

Won’t be long before he makes it compulsory.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

You rang?

Depends which pronunciation was used. 😉

Tom
Tom
February 11, 2023 1:42 pm

Blind Freddie could have told you that, if you denounce your religion, you don’t start believing in nothing – you’ll believe in anything.

The swarms of newly-minted athiests in the West who have abandoned Christianity in the past 30 years don’t now believe in nothing.

Their new religion is a form of animism like that of the Aztecs in central America 500-700 years ago who, like modern progressives, worshipped plants, animals and invented celestial gods.

They’ve called their new religion “climate change”, a deliberate misunderstanding of the cycles of climate variability that says the human race is responsible for the weather – the ultimate expression of narcissism that confers god-like powers on the earth’s eight billion inhabitants.

Tucker Carlson Tonight.

h/t Zipster at 1.33pm.

m0nty
m0nty
February 11, 2023 1:43 pm

You’re laughing about this monty.

I certainly am! Cookerpedia is a hoot. Ratbags reporting on ratbags, very entertaining.

I don’t know any of the details of Paix’s case, was there video of the incident? With cookers there is almost always video.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 11, 2023 1:43 pm

The 78ers were a group of LGBT activists who marched in the first Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras parade on June 24, 1978.

78ers, eh?
Are you a 78er, SpongeBob?

Bluey
Bluey
February 11, 2023 1:43 pm

More elbow photo ops. Don’t think that’s going to go down well with all the people struggling to pay their bills.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 1:43 pm

Korea, anyone?

Vietnam, Tibet, India, Russia. And all that in just my lifetime.

rickw
rickw
February 11, 2023 1:44 pm

He’s had seven deployments to the sharp end Monty.
How many have you done?

Thousands of deployments at the blunt end of a donut box.

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2023 1:44 pm

Mr. 32% displaying Ardern level hubris.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 11, 2023 1:45 pm

A disgrace to humanity.

Attacks like this on Rosie are uncalled for.

She mentions that hydroxychlorquine had FDA approval withdrawn as it caused heart palpitations in Covid patients. Well, yes, that was the reason offered, without further consideration of this drug’s utility, nor taking into consideration of its widespread use and general population safety. This unusual side effect was at that time a very convenient excuse to knock out further research.

However, the side effect is real. Hydroxychloroquine does cause heart palpitations in some people.

Rose was simply reporting a fact. The FDA did use this reason. Perhaps she could have added that it provided a convenient excuse to push attention onto prevention by vaccines rather than by other preventatives or treatments. But this ad femina abuse of Rose should stop.

State why you think she is wrong rather than abuse her in the most dreadful manner for a truthful statement. Who the hell do you think you are, Trickler and Matrix, so be so vile and pick up so many upticks for it? Why do people want to agree with such vileness here?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 11, 2023 1:45 pm

Thousands of deployments at the blunt end of a donut box.

Harsh, but fair!

m0nty
m0nty
February 11, 2023 1:47 pm

He’s had seven deployments to the sharp end Monty.

Which sharp ends? Did he make it out of the Green Zone in any of them?

I am from Seymour, blokes from that area are not all that impressed by military records.

rickw
rickw
February 11, 2023 1:47 pm

I’ll be first PM to march in Mardi Gras: Albanese

Weak.

If he was the first PM Sodomised on the back of a float during Mardi Gras, that would be something.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 1:48 pm

I’ll be first PM to march in Mardi Gras: Albanese

If he doesn’t do it in arseless chaps or a mankini he’s not for real.
And a feather boa.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 11, 2023 1:50 pm

I am from Seymour, blokes from that area are not all that impressed by military records.

Does anyone else see the irony in this comment?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 1:51 pm

Monty – I am as amused by your abysmal memory as your stolen valour. Do try to keep up son.

rickw
rickw
February 11, 2023 1:52 pm

I am from Seymour, blokes from that area are not all that impressed by military records.

That just explained an awful lot.

Mantaray
Mantaray
February 11, 2023 1:53 pm

Further up this thread there’s a whinge going on about a lack of doctors (GPs). Well here’s the answer for all these BS whiners….

Stop stuffing yourselves with 12 meals a day…plus snacks…and get out doing some exercise….Stop the ciggies and over-boozing.

90% of ailments are life-style (over-indulging, lazing about) which means 90% and more of GP visits (plus assorted testing options) are due to this. STOP IT, and the GPs will be available when needed for stuff that’s NOT lifestyle related FFS.

Pogria
Pogria
February 11, 2023 1:54 pm

“Eyriesays:
February 11, 2023 at 12:54 pm
Why do Americans pronounce “solder”, “sodder”?”

The one that makes me laugh most is “Aloominum”.
The thing I do find galling lately is the bad grammar and spelling creep coming over here. Yanks have long been known for not using “an” before a word that begins with a vowel. Everything is “uh”. Same with “the” which is lengthened to “thee” sound. There “is” for singular and there “are” for plural. Too many these days are using the abbreviation “there’s” where they should be using “there’re”.
Sheer laziness. And let’s not mention Lose or Loose!
Here endeth the rant.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 1:55 pm

Isn’t it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?

– Douglas Adams

It would be lovely to think there are fairies at the bottom of the garden.

Douglas Adams thinks his beautiful garden is “enough”, in the same way that eating the entreé without imagining a main or, heaven forbid, dessert is enough. How does he know it’s enough? Is he so easily satisfied?

Never lose your sense of wonder or expectation. See little dancing ballerinas in fuchsia flowers, and doves in columbines, and red hot pokers in…your red hot pokers. It’s a beautiful and marvellous world out there.

johanna
johanna
February 11, 2023 1:57 pm

Nothing to see here, move along:

The Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) is in discussions with international atmospheric agencies to overhaul how La Niña and El Niño are defined, potentially rewriting the record books of global weather history.

The potential revamp of the world’s most dominant driver of weather variability follows a year of occasional confusion when meteorological agencies released contradictory declarations on the state of the Pacific Ocean.

Yep, let’s rewrite the records when facts don’t fit the narrative.

This is Science in 2023.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 1:58 pm

I want him to march in stilettos. Tall ones a la Morrison.

Fishnets for extra ooomph!

m0nty
m0nty
February 11, 2023 1:59 pm

BRUSSELS (AP) — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Thursday that his country has intercepted plans by Russian secret services to destroy Moldova, and Moldovan intelligence confirmed the claim.

Obviously if/when Russia invades Moldova, it will be for defensive and humanitarian reasons due to minor skirmishes near the border and not some over-arching Russian plan for imperial annexation.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 11, 2023 1:59 pm

The other speaker was John Leake who is a crime author who co wrote book with McCullough.

He went back to the famous speach by Eisenhower about the military industrial complex. The thrust of that speach is that they might further their own ends ahead of the country.

He compared it what we have now which is the Pharma industrial complex and he named the main people behind it.
Rockefeller foundation
Bill Gates Foundation
Wellcome Trust
WEF
Funding of WHO by above
CEPI
GAVI
Above 2 funded by Gates.

Incidentally Sir Jeremy Farrar former CEO of Wellcome Trust just been appointed Chief Scientist of WHO.

I am sure we are just lucky but Aussies are Chairpersons of Wellcome Trust and CEPI. That is Julia Gillard and Jane Halton.

Halton is the independent adviser to PM on vaccines. We are in safe hands.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 1:59 pm

Inconvenient facts Joh.

When will they start on the Periodic Table?

Robert Sewell
February 11, 2023 2:02 pm

I got this email from Joanna the Bumper sticker lady:
More stickers available.

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> Subject:
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> From:
>
> Date:
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>
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>
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I’ve put in an order for more, and I think it a damn fine idea if more of youse did so too.

Makka
Makka
February 11, 2023 2:03 pm

The Federal Reserve is about to go broke, and how accounting gimmickry will mask the event. Until it doesn’t. And this needs bearing in mind as geo-political events play out viz Russia, China , ME etc.

https://www.lynalden.com/broke-federal-reserve/

From January 2011 until September 2022, the Federal Reserve paid approximately $1 trillion in cumulative remittances to the U.S. Treasury, which was a nice revenue source for the government. Now, those payments aren’t flowing anymore.

In a few months, the Federal Reserve will have lost enough money from this negative net interest income, that it will have negative tangible equity. In other words, its financial liabilities will exceed its financial assets. However, thanks to some accounting gimmicks, their reported equity is basically unchanged.

……..

In 1933, U.S. federal government ended redeem-ability of the dollar for gold, and in 1934 forced the Federal Reserve to hand over all of its gold to the U.S. Treasury Department.

……..

So, in order to avoid rendering the Fed insolvent (and thus dependent) with that action, the Treasury also gave the Fed an equal amount of gold certificates that equaled the value of the gold they were handing over to the Treasury. It was just a “trade”, in other words.

…….

The gold certificates theoretically represent a claim to the gold, but are non-redeemable, and thus don’t really mean anything. A non-redeemable certificate for something is like a mother giving her child a pretend toy steering wheel in the back seat of a car to have fun and think he is driving, while the mother actually drives the car.

……………….

Oh, and this;

“In 2021, the Federal Reserve earned $100+ billion in net interest income. Some of it went to pay for operating expenses of the Federal Reserve, and some of it was paid out as a dividend to the shareholders of the Federal Reserve (which are the commercial banks themselves)”.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 11, 2023 2:05 pm

I see now I’m reading the whole thread that there was further comment on the FDA approval and rejection of hydroxychlorophine, similar to what I wrote above, i.e. the heart problems were an excuse to withdraw it. And I note that the abuse of Rosie over the came from comments made by early morning thread wanderers who were no doubt the worse for wear due to reasons unknown. lol.

However, Rose should not be the whipping boy for the frustrations some feel about the FDA. On the surface, the reasons they used may have seemed valid. Plenty of medicos agreed. I have had hydroxychloroquine and in me it caused significant bleeding from all musosal tissues. I am unusually sensitive to it. This happens with most drugs, someone has a bad reaction somewhere. I take doxycycline as an anti-malarial. This, in combination with hydroxy, would be a potent anti-Covid medication, and doxycycline, like hydroxy and like ivermectin, is widely use in the third world for Malaria.

Dover, would it be possible to announce on any old thread in its dying moment that a new thread has phoenixed up? It would be so helpful to people who are in different time zones or jetlagged or just plain old not up to scratch on how things work around here?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 11, 2023 2:05 pm

Attached are images of the seventeen stickers now available.

If I could ask a favor? Any chance of a link to the stickers? I’m buying some more.

Makka
Makka
February 11, 2023 2:06 pm

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Thursday that his country has intercepted plans by Russian secret services to destroy Moldova, and Moldovan intelligence confirmed the claim.

mOron, if you are mouthing off about it, we can be sure it will never happen.

Johnny Rotten
February 11, 2023 2:08 pm

I got an email saying “At Google Earth we can read maps backwards!” I thought to myself… that’s just spam.

johanna
johanna
February 11, 2023 2:10 pm

Watching the Maori gels v the Indigs – a lotta very pale legs on the ‘Indig’ side of the scrum.

Maori in front so far.

Johnny Rotten
February 11, 2023 2:10 pm

The only source of knowledge is experience.

– Albert Einstein

Eyrie
Eyrie
February 11, 2023 2:19 pm

Attacks like this on Rosie are uncalled for.
They are perfectly justified as she posts bullshit. The HCQ /heart palpitations thing was dealt with by Duk and myself earlier. It was a bullshit study designed to fail.
She’s a waste of bandwidth.

Robert Sewell
February 11, 2023 2:21 pm

A quick reminder to all that [email protected] is taking the good fight to the BoM and could use a hand with funding.
You’ll need to email her for her bank details – she hasn’t set up a GoFundme page.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 2:22 pm

I’ve just sighted an extremely rare lesser Moldovian squirrel in its natural habitat.
Amazing!

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 11, 2023 2:22 pm

The BoM is just another canbra abomination.

Robert Sewell
February 11, 2023 2:25 pm

Knuckle Dragger:

Because quite a few have northern SA connections, heaps of them have also pissed off that way. Apparently the Stuart Highway between Alice and Marla is littered with broken-down shitboxes.

I hope this hundreds-of-kilometres-long vehicle graveyard is still there in ten days or so. I want to take photos.

Your wish etc….

Johnny Rotten
February 11, 2023 2:28 pm

Eyriesays:
February 11, 2023 at 2:19 pm
Attacks like this on Rosie are uncalled for.
They are perfectly justified as she posts bullshit. The HCQ /heart palpitations thing was dealt with by Duk and myself earlier. It was a bullshit study designed to fail.
She’s a waste of bandwidth.

I agree along with Jerkoff Cretin the short arse Italian, Mrs Stencho Pantyhose, Dotty Dot and some others. Good fun being on this Bog, I mean Blog……………..

rickw
rickw
February 11, 2023 2:28 pm

However, Rose should not be the whipping boy for the frustrations some feel about the FDA.

If she’s going to mindlessly trot out FDA and ATAGI propaganda….

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2023 2:29 pm

GreyRangasays:

February 11, 2023 at 1:34 pm

Frank what about Short Willie’s pronunciation of wiff and finking.

A total affectation.
I’ll bet he didn’t speak like that at prahvate school.
It is the accent favoured by Slugs and Bugs lawyers to project wukking class cred.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 11, 2023 2:30 pm

When will they start on the Periodic Table?

Thank goodness someone has recognised the problem.

The Periodic Table is irredeemably white, heteronormative, patronymical, and Western-focussed. Where it’s not, it is derived from profoundly racist, Christianised Greco/Latin.

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 11, 2023 2:30 pm

Rosie is entitled to her opinion which I don’t agree with. I like her travel logs though and I find abusing her unseemly.

m0nty
m0nty
February 11, 2023 2:31 pm

Is this why the Moldovan government just collapsed?

Collapse seems a strong word for what seems to be happening, which is that the party in government changes leaders from one pro-Western wonk to another.

Not much fun being Moldovan at the moment, from the sounds of it.

Robert Sewell
February 11, 2023 2:31 pm

Bruce of Nuke:

As the world heats up, demand for air conditioning has skyrocketed. The International Energy Agency has estimated that by 2050, up to two-thirds of the world’s households will have installed aircon, particularly in China, India and Indonesia.”

All four aircons going at home. And just because I can, the washing machine and the dryer as well.

rickw
rickw
February 11, 2023 2:33 pm

Signing into work this morning.

Nepalese security guard:

Was there an earthquake in Turkey or is it fake news?!

The point is that a vast number of people have zero trust in MSM and are questioning everything.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 2:34 pm

There are plenty of wastes of bandwidth here.

Thank you Dover for providing us with abundant space to demonstrate it.

Makka
Makka
February 11, 2023 2:37 pm

“Law after law, they reduce the rights of ethnic Hungarians in Ukraine.”

The Hitlerite strategy circa 1933 onwards. No surprises.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 2:38 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
February 11, 2023 at 1:27 pm
The only Wars the Chinese fight are with other Chinese.

Korea, anyone?

India, 1962 and occasionally since?

Soviet Union on the Ussuri River, 1969?

Vietnam, 1979?

Johnny Rotten
February 11, 2023 2:39 pm

Dr Faustussays:
February 11, 2023 at 2:30 pm
When will they start on the Periodic Table?

Thank goodness someone has recognised the problem.

The Periodic Table is irredeemably white, heteronormative, patronymical, and Western-focussed. Where it’s not, it is derived from profoundly racist, Christianised Greco/Latin.

That is so Brillo. Blame science once again……………..Wot’ a Larf’……………………

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=V83JR2IoI8k

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 2:39 pm

All four aircons going at home. And just because I can, the washing machine and the dryer as well.

No aircon at Cafe Bruce, although I’m presently sitting in front of a pedestal fan since I just finished mowing the lawn.

Very cool summer so far. Interestingly the Indian Mynahs have barely been breeding, they seem to have a temperature cue for that or something.

JC
JC
February 11, 2023 2:40 pm

Hungary’s leadership is obviously on Putin’s side, then the right and honorable thing to do would be to NATO and the EU asap.

MatrixTransform
February 11, 2023 2:40 pm

Monty in a foxhole somewhere defending Australia?

or
a Couch Cushion Fortress with a flight sim on his iPad
while barking orders to a imaginary strike-team via Discord

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 11, 2023 2:42 pm

Tucker Carlson nailed it again today with his speech on Climate Change as the new religion, complete with original sin and the coming raptures.

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 11, 2023 2:43 pm

There used to be some Mynahs around here but the Noisies cleared them out.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 11, 2023 2:44 pm

Some galah:

Korea, anyone?

Nope.

A.Parrot says:

Vietnam, Tibet, India, Russia. And all that in just my lifetime.

Vietnam, lasted 6 weeks in 1979, lost 200,000 soldiers.
Tibet, invaded, annexed, coupla weeks.
India, Border skirmishes.
Russia, Border skirmishes 1964, got arse kicked.
Chinese Military History:
A joke.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 2:44 pm

“We need to celebrate our diversity, not just tolerate it.”

I don’t see much sign of the “diverse” celebrating the normal. It is a one-way street.

Legalisation? Yes, laws that are not enforced damage the Rule of Law.

Toleration? OK, as long as you keep your activities private.

Celebration? Why? You don’t celebrate our normality, so NO, no celebration.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 11, 2023 2:44 pm

India, 1962 and occasionally since?

Soviet Union on the Ussuri River, 1969?

Vietnam, 1979?

Thanks for pointing those out.

MatrixTransform
February 11, 2023 2:45 pm

They are perfectly justified as she posts bullshit.

+100

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
February 11, 2023 2:45 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
February 11, 2023 at 1:45 pm

My comment was blocked but is now at Dash Cat.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 2:46 pm

m0ntysays:
February 11, 2023 at 1:43 pm
You’re laughing about this monty.

I certainly am! Cookerpedia is a hoot. Ratbags reporting on ratbags, very entertaining.

I don’t know any of the details of Paix’s case, was there video of the incident? With cookers there is almost always video.

You need to start paying attention, the details have been published here multiple times. Try to focus, fool.

Oh come on
Oh come on
February 11, 2023 2:47 pm

So. Charlie’s coronation emblem has been released. My first pass impression is…ummm…it’s a little busy. Looks like it belongs on a coin. At least it’s not rainbow coloured, which it easily could have been.

Taking a closer look – there’s a crown and a whole mess of leaves and flowers. No symbol of the power and majesty of the role, no sword-wielding lion or anything along those lines. The UK head of state* wants to be known as a florist. Rule Britannia.

*I’m of the opinion that the GG is our head of state

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 2:47 pm

Ed Casesays:
February 11, 2023 at 1:43 pm
The 78ers were a group of LGBT activists who marched in the first Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras parade on June 24, 1978.

78ers, eh?
Are you a 78er, SpongeBob?

Are you a 69er?

Robert Sewell
February 11, 2023 2:47 pm

Black Ball:

Have a read of the reportage.

That is just bizarre.
From the article:

During the chat, the panel discussed “environmental lockdowns” – or minor restrictions introduced by governments to reduce emissions – and “Smart Cities”, a movement advocating to make urban settings more liveable.

Straight out of “1984”. A complete reversal of reality.

m0nty
m0nty
February 11, 2023 2:48 pm

Bruce, you may be surprised to learn that I don’t pay forensic attention to every Cat’s life.

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 11, 2023 2:48 pm

Tim Franks of the BBC News Hour once again demonstrated how the beeb hates any national leader who’s not a lefty. He got stuck into Bolsonaro again, in much the same terms as they use against Trump; controversial statements, election denier etc. Never mind that he’s extremely popular. Never mind that Orban speaks good sense.
The Beeb hates Victor Orban (Hungary), Mr. Modi (India), Boslonaro (Brazil) and anyone on the conservative side of Poland’s house. It has become so bad that there are call in India to ban the Beeb after their hatchet job on Modi.

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 11, 2023 2:49 pm

I wish we didn’t have to pay attention to you Monty, waste of space.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 11, 2023 2:50 pm

Seymour Hersh story on the NordStream 2 pipoeline a heads up that the Washington regime is abandoning Zelenskyy?
Hungary preparing to retake Ruthenia?

MatrixTransform
February 11, 2023 2:50 pm

Rose was simply reporting a fact

in context with all the other gibber she’s posted over several years now

no, she is not just reporting a ‘fact’

and now Lizzie, your’e turning it into a political football to suit your own ongoing agenda

the pair of you are disingenuous

bad actors, the pair of you

bons
bons
February 11, 2023 2:50 pm

Where can you order the bumper stickers?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 11, 2023 2:50 pm

Regarding the hit job by News com au posted by Blackball at 0900.

At least it will hopefully alert more people to Hoodys Club Grubbery.

I wonder if the News journalist equate Ben Fordham and Karl Stephanovic as “cookers”.

Can we come up with a term for journalists who feed BS and propaganda?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 11, 2023 2:50 pm

calli says:
February 11, 2023 at 1:55 pm

Isn’t it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?

– Douglas Adams

Never lose your sense of wonder or expectation. See little dancing ballerinas in fuchsia flowers, and doves in columbines, and red hot pokers in…your red hot pokers. It’s a beautiful and marvellous world out there.

calli,

Heh – a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?

Memories of having an “Old” Female Systems Analyst appox 45-50 years (Ok at 25 myself, I thought Old – was also Honours Maths Graduate), who had been posted to London in 1970 for 9 months, as part of the same Team as myself picking up Software System, always accompained my wife and my self in our Harry Potter Ford Anglia trips around UK to split petrol cost & join us in seeing the Country – Lands End to John O’Groats and all places in between

We, 3, had flown over to Ireland to drive around Ireland in a 3 day weekend, renting car and sharing costs

At Blarney Castle, she did not want to climb to the top and kiss the Blarney Stone, so she wandered into the Blarney Castle Fairy Gardens – Wife went to top, but did not kiss Blarney Stone, but I did and reckon Son was born just over 1 year later with the Gift of the Gab, due to me kissing the Blarney Stone – Wife cynically on this, reckons I never shut up, so genetic.

When we came out of the bottom of the castle, our travelling companion appeared at speed out of the Fairy Garden – apparently she had happened upon a male masturbating himself in the Fairy Garden, and skedaddled out of there at speed – we retired to a Pub to calm her nerves

Great Travelling Companion, a real Cynic, and she & my wife joined forces togther to rein me in.

Makka
Makka
February 11, 2023 2:51 pm

Hungary’s leadership is obviously on Putin’s side,

Not really. It looks to me like Orban is against wasting tax dollars in corrupt Ukraine as well as material and also getting the EU effeminates out of Hungary and the national treasury.

That doesn’t make him a Putin supporter. He’s doing his job; looking after Hungary first.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 11, 2023 2:52 pm

Is this a come on, SpongeBob?

I’m now convinced you are indeed a 78er.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 2:53 pm

m0ntysays:
February 11, 2023 at 1:59 pm
BRUSSELS (AP) — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Thursday that his country has intercepted plans by Russian secret services to destroy Moldova, and Moldovan intelligence confirmed the claim.

Obviously if/when Russia invades Moldova, it will be for defensive and humanitarian reasons due to minor skirmishes near the border and not some over-arching Russian plan for imperial annexation.

Don’t just sit there typing, get up, and enlist for the Great War Against Wussian Imperialism that you have been demanding. Moldova needs you (Kitchener image, with pointing finger).

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 11, 2023 2:53 pm

Like the out-of-control marxist play group/hit squad called the ABC, the BBC is well passed its use by date.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 2:54 pm

Ed – Your memory of history isn’t as bad as Monty’s but it isn’t great. Have you looked up Operation Praying Mantis yet?

The Sino-Soviet border conflict was a seven-month undeclared military conflict between the Soviet Union and China in 1969, following the Sino-Soviet split. The most serious border clash, which brought the world’s two largest communist states to the brink of war, occurred in March 1969 near Zhenbao (Damansky) Island

The Sino-Vietnamese War (also known by other names) was a border war fought between China and Vietnam in early 1979. China launched an offensive in response to Vietnam’s actions against the Khmer Rouge in 1978, which ended the rule of the Chinese-backed Khmer Rouge.

The Sino-Indian War took place between China and India from October to November 1962, as a major flare-up of the Sino-Indian border dispute.

War is heck, as they say. I haven’t bothered with the conquest of Tibet, that was brutal as even you know.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 11, 2023 2:55 pm

ZK2A leftists are totally self unaware. Just like the big nose Mo, perfect and just as dangerous.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 2:58 pm

Makkasays:
February 11, 2023 at 2:06 pm
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Thursday that his country has intercepted plans by Russian secret services to destroy Moldova, and Moldovan intelligence confirmed the claim.

mOron, if you are mouthing off about it, we can be sure it will never happen.

But, but, but, shirley Zelensky is an impeccable and completely unbiased source? No self-interest whatsoever?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 2:59 pm

Monty – Your Dunning-Kruger is especially bad today. If you need assistance just say so, we’re friendly people.

Zipster
February 11, 2023 3:02 pm

GYM HOES
Paul Joseph Watson

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2023 3:03 pm

Steve tricklersays:

February 11, 2023 at 2:45 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
February 11, 2023 at 1:45 pm

My comment was blocked.

And why do you think your comment was blocked, Shakin’ Steven?

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 11, 2023 3:03 pm

War is heck, as they say. I haven’t bothered with the conquest of Tibet, that was brutal as even you know.

None of these were Wars, Bruce.
As far as what I know is concerned, the rule of the Lamas in Tibet surpassed the Belgian Congo in brutality and ferocity, though I doubt you know that.

m0nty
m0nty
February 11, 2023 3:04 pm

Bruce, it sounds like you keep your own wiki with every Cat’s personal history written up somewhere. Your own personal doxx database. I could think of better uses of my time, but you go girl.

Makka
Makka
February 11, 2023 3:05 pm

The US Administration can’t help bending over to the FDA (aka Big Pharma). Keeping theft and fraud legal. But, there is definitely no conspiracy here;

One in five prescriptions would be affected if the FDA gets its way, putting Big Pharma in charge of making decisions about your health instead of your doctor. Make no mistake, this appropriations bill involving $1.7 trillion in spending could change the practice of medicine—and not in your favor.

STORY AT-A-GLANCE
The 2023 omnibus appropriations bill includes 19 lines that could give the U.S. Food and Drug Administration the power to ban off-label use of approved medications.

If the little-noticed provision is passed, doctors’ ability to freely treat patients and patients’ ability to use all available treatments after making an informed decision will be lost.

The amendment puts the FDA, and by proxy Big Pharma, at the helm of powerful health care decisions that should be made on an individual, personalized level between a patient and their health care provider.

In California, law AB 2098, which went into effect Jan. 1, 2023, gives the state power to take away doctors’ medical licenses if they spread “misinformation” that goes against the standard COVID-19 rhetoric.

The trend to allow a Pharma-controlled government to silence your doctor and dictate basic components of your medical care is not confined to the U.S.—it’s happening globally.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 3:06 pm

Vietnam, lasted 6 weeks in 1979, lost 200,000 soldiers.

Total casualties, not dead.

Tibet, invaded, annexed, coupla weeks.

True.

India, Border skirmishes.

Define “skirmishes. The total dead on both sides adds up.

Russia, Border skirmishes 1964, got arse kicked.

In 1969, not 1964. Came close to a major conflict. Exactly who kicked whose arse is not as clear as you like to suggest.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 3:06 pm

During the chat, the panel discussed “environmental lockdowns” – or minor restrictions introduced by governments to reduce emissions

Already occurring in a number of green council areas most notably Oxford in the UK. And London, which is starting to cause some serious opposition.

How London’s eco-obsessed mayor is threatening to drive white van man off the road: Sadiq Khan wants to extend Ultra Low Emission Zone across the entirety of the capital. But it could leave drivers of older cars facing a ruinous £3,000 a year bill (Daily Mail megaheadline, 30 Jan)

Also if you read Climate Depot you will often see climate fascists fantasizing about using covid lockdowns for global warming totalitarian control.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 3:10 pm

Bourne1879

Can we come up with a term for journalists who feed BS and propaganda?

Arseholes?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2023 3:11 pm

Has Shakin’ Steven been banned?
That would be most upsetting.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 3:11 pm

Ed Casesays:
February 11, 2023 at 2:52 pm
Is this a come on, SpongeBob?

I’m now convinced you are indeed a 78er.

In your dreams, Dick.

Oh come on
Oh come on
February 11, 2023 3:12 pm

China got its arse handed to it by a bunch of border guards and local militias in the 1979 Sino-Vietnamese War, whilst the main Vietnamese army was in Cambodia kicking the snot out of the Khmer Rouge and setting up a new client government in its place. After enduring eye-watering casualties, the PLA retreated and petulantly razed any Vietnamese territory they held in their wake.

China apologists claim that the PLA left after it ‘opened the gate’ to Hanoi, having made its point. The problem with this narrative is the 250k force defending the capital that the PLA didn’t come close to engaging.

They also claim that only the PLA was involved – if the PLAAF and PLAN were part of the conflict, it would have been a turkey shoot. They’re right, although it would have been the Chinese who were the turkeys. Firstly, it’s not clear how the Chinese navy could have impacted the outcome of a land war that occurred hundreds of kilometres from the coast. As for the Chinese air force – it had a bunch of obsolete 1950s-era planes whilst the Viets had a modern fleet and an advanced air defence network in place.

And there’s also the not-insignificant fact that the Chinese had zero experience in combined arms warfare, whilst the Viets had way more than any nation would want. The only way the war could have turned out worse for the Chinese is if they involved all three branches of their military.

The PLA back then was a dim-witted, clumsy behemoth. Even Deng Xiaoping described it as having ‘short arms and short legs’. They were still using runners to transmit orders from the rear to the frontlines, like in WW1. They didn’t even use radio! But yeah, the Chinese beat the Vietnamese. Right. I guess that’s why it’s barely known about in China, because regimes such as theirs are famously modest about their military victories.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Anchor What says: February 11, 2023 at 2:49 pm
I wish we didn’t have to pay attention to you Monty, waste of space.

You don’t have to.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 3:15 pm

None of these were Wars, Bruce.

Richard Cranium reverts to standard leftard tactics, re-define the question to avoid embarrassment.

Sad. Low energy.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 3:16 pm

LOL, Monty. I have a brain and a memory. The only bookmarks I keep are climate ones I have lots of those (ok a couple dozen science links for covid stuff more recently, but that’s it).

If you don’t pay attention then you can expect to be roasted when you get something wrong. Like today.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
February 11, 2023 3:17 pm

Monty, why are you so bitter and twisted today?

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 3:17 pm

m0ntysays:
February 11, 2023 at 3:04 pm
Bruce, it sounds like you keep your own wiki with every Cat’s personal history written up somewhere. Your own personal doxx database. I could think of better uses of my time, but you go girl.

m0nty=fa

Any moderately intelligent reader who pays attention would be well aware of the matter. Sad that you seem to have a form of short-term memory loss. Speak to a GP, they might be able to help.

jupes
jupes
February 11, 2023 3:17 pm

Curious.

Hungary setting themselves up for the possible collapse and break up of Ukraine. Smart move.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 3:18 pm

Good grief! Thanks for the tip re the fairy garden! There are times when you just need a good hose with lots of water pressure. Usually to cool a Tomcat’s ardour, but handy for other stuff too.

I, too, did not need to kiss the Blarney Stone. For obvious reasons.

Zipster
February 11, 2023 3:19 pm

Lady Gaga has a woman force vomit over her chest as she plays the drums during a show.
Meanwhile if you stand up for family values you are labelled a domestic extremist.
Satan is in charge.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
February 11, 2023 3:20 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
February 11, 2023 at 3:03 pm

So many of your posts are just worthless. Spakfilla, applied on a wall inside of a building ready to collapse.

Zipster
February 11, 2023 3:21 pm

Monty, why are you so bitter and twisted today?

didn’t get his weekly prostate massage

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 3:21 pm

Old School Conservativesays:
February 11, 2023 at 3:17 pm
Monty, why are you so bitter and twisted today?

Krispy Kreme sold out before he could get there?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 3:23 pm

None of these were Wars, Bruce.

Golly I could’ve almost sworn that two of them were actually officially called that.
Amazing, Ed, that you can’t seem to read the written word.

I have only read one history about Tibet I admit, although many articles. The Chinese have brutally repressed the Tibetans, and still are doing so.

JMH
JMH
February 11, 2023 3:23 pm

I wish we didn’t have to pay attention to you Monty, waste of space.

Those of us who regularly use the scroll wheel when it comes to the blog idiots never have to pay attention.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 3:25 pm

I read your reply over at Dash, Steve. I can’t see how it didn’t pass muster unless you have modified it in some way.

Personally, I would prefer not have have people shut up but to keep talking. That’s how I will know what they think, or what they are prepared to reveal on a blog. I don’t have to believe them.

Also, good that the surgery went well. I detest hospitals, having seen the inside of so many of them.

Johnny Rotten
February 11, 2023 3:27 pm

JCsays:
February 11, 2023 at 2:40 pm
Hungary’s leadership is obviously on Putin’s side, then the right and honorable thing to do would be to NATO and the EU asap.

I disagree you short arse italian/oz. Go and live in Hungary and see it from their perspective. Living in MelBum and Sictoria you have NFI.

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