Open Thread – Weekend 11 Feb 2023


The Shipwreck on Northern sea, Ivan Aivazovski, 1875


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Brislurker
Brislurker
February 11, 2023 12:14 am

Wow , good morning all!

Rossini
Rossini
February 11, 2023 12:17 am

Just finished reading the old “Fred”

rosie
rosie
February 11, 2023 12:21 am

Hanging around the station has its rewards.
Trenitalia changed its mind and put on not one but two buses to Syracuse, after standing waiting for an hour I found a seat and daydreaming missed seeing the buses pull up.
Scurried out and am the now the only passenger on bus number two.
Sky is a bit lighter so hopefully weather on the improve.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 11, 2023 12:30 am

Clive Palmer spoke at the end of the event. Mentioned he caught pneumonia and then Covid. Dr’s in hospital told him he had 5 hours to live and were going to put him on ventilator and give Remdesivir.

He got out of the hospital and then got quick alternative advice and treatment. This included Ivermectin.

He mentioned in 2020 how he bought 37m doses of hydroxychloroquine to be given away for free. Landed and then put into Government stockpile. Was initially approved but around that time Pfizer reps appeared in Canberra and after that not approved.

McCullough mentioned they had been interviewed by press earlier in the day. Going to be interesting to see if any mainstream media give their visit any coverage and if so what type.

rosie
rosie
February 11, 2023 12:47 am

Handy to have a couple of spare hundred thousand to throw at private medicine treatment.
I wonder how much conventional treatment was in the Palmer mix.

rosie
rosie
February 11, 2023 12:49 am

Hydroxychloroquine had fda approval withdrawn after it was found to cause irregular heart rhythms in covid patients.
Did Clive take it?
Doesn’t sound like he did.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
February 11, 2023 12:58 am

Via vlogger Chris Willamson:

A 2010 meta-analysis showed 10% of women are physically unable. 10% actually planned to not have children.
Which leaves a whopping 4 in 5 childless women who didn’t plan to be childless.”

And that was before the recent #Pfertility phenomenon.

MatrixTransform
February 11, 2023 1:11 am

Hydroxychloroquine had fda approval withdrawn after it was found to cause irregular heart rhythms in covid patients.

gawd you talk shit rosie

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
February 11, 2023 1:47 am

rosiesays:
February 11, 2023 at 12:49 am

You are a f*cking MSM gobbling idiot.

A disgrace to humanity.

rickw
rickw
February 11, 2023 1:56 am

He mentioned in 2020 how he bought 37m doses of hydroxychloroquine to be given away for free. Landed and then put into Government stockpile. Was initially approved but around that time Pfizer reps appeared in Canberra and after that not approved.

Some people have got some serious questions to answer.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
February 11, 2023 1:58 am

Rosie, places credence in the FDA.

You f*cking idiot!

rickw
rickw
February 11, 2023 1:59 am

Hydroxychloroquine had fda approval withdrawn after it was found to cause irregular heart rhythms in covid patients.

The old and very safe drug had its approval withdrawn because it was cheap, effective and it wasn’t a Pfizer product.

rickw
rickw
February 11, 2023 2:05 am

Rosie, incase you hadn’t realised it, the FDA and ATAGI are brought and paid for by Phucking Pfizer.

In no other industry would such a cosy relationship between “regulator” and “regulated” be tolerated.

How badly are ATAGI in Pfizer’s back pocket? They’re a global laughing stock for their 5th booster horse shit. Everyone else had given up, but like Australian Politicians, once brought these f’cking scum stay brought.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
February 11, 2023 2:15 am

What jab number are you up to, rosie?

I hope you are getting a root on your adventures. Enjoy it while it lasts.

A bivalent jab awaits you. You’ll offer yourself up, no doubt. You are in competition with all the brainwashed f-wits in the world.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 11, 2023 3:06 am

Rosie,
Hydroxy been used safely for decades. How come suddenly causes heart problems.

The treatments McCullough and Kory use are much cheaper than Remdesivir and Paxlovid and that is the problem. The treatments FDA like just happen to be far more expensive. Previous head of FDA on Pfizer board.

Kory outlined very well the huge campaign to smear Ivermectin. Had to be done as was being used by too many Drs and was going to affect vaccine roll-out and profits. He mentioned the Oxford trial on IVM which is still going 2 years later ! A major problem has been the capture of the medical journals who basically shill for big pharma.

Tom
Tom
February 11, 2023 4:00 am
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February 11, 2023 4:04 am
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February 11, 2023 4:07 am
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February 11, 2023 4:08 am
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February 11, 2023 4:09 am
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February 11, 2023 4:10 am
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February 11, 2023 4:12 am
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February 11, 2023 4:13 am
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February 11, 2023 4:14 am
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February 11, 2023 4:15 am
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February 11, 2023 4:17 am
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February 11, 2023 4:18 am
rosie
rosie
February 11, 2023 4:42 am

Because people were very sick with covid already.
It isn’t exactly novel for drugs to cause side effects in some circumstances and not others.

rosie
rosie
February 11, 2023 4:50 am

Incidentally.
Made it, the auto strada is a bit off the coast so other than one wobble crossing a bridge the bus trip was pretty uneventful.
Interesting that in this part of Sicily some people grow oranges underwater
Arrived at Siracusa station and it’s raining again. Walked to my apartment, which is in the old Jewish quarter on the island of Ortygia, the medieval lane I’m on is not on google maps and even with coordinates was pretty hard to find, I spend a bit of time in the rain peering at house numbers until an elderly donna took pity on me and asked which house I was looking for, and then pointed me across the piccolo piazza to my front door. Of course three is opposite seventeen!
Very close to the sea which is still quite angry and I don’t fancy my chances if there is an earthquake tsunami combo here. The area is extremely charming, mostly lime or sandstone? buildings; the old Jewish Baths are around the corner, I’ll have look tomorrow. The town is also famous for another keen bather.
I wanted granita for dinner but had to settle for gelato, a vanilla and chocolate combination that tasted a bit like a McDonald’s hot fudge sundae without the hot. Went well with a room temperature glass of Arancia Rosso.
The apartment is perfect, even has a plaque with ‘Love Laugh Live’ on it.
Been a bit of a Doctor Foster day, nice to be indoors.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 11, 2023 5:20 am

I think people are off the pace when they say Vijaya Gadde’s motivations are based on race.
My view is that she is more along the lines of Neera Tanden.
Thoroughly intoxicated by the DNC’s current set of values & would do anything to prove her loyalty.
Gadde has been paid a handsome amount during her time at Twitter.
And because of her actions, she will always have a guaranteed position for life with varying levels of money, power & influence.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 11, 2023 5:23 am

Any Cats watched The Head?
Series 2 has dropped on SBS on demand & wondering whether to put it in the queue.

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 11, 2023 6:21 am

Rita Panahi:

We were all misled and cajoled when it came to Covid-19 vaccines.

And I say that as someone who was so enthusiastic about being jabbed and freed from lockdowns that I offered to get vaccinated on air in early 2021.

Though adamantly opposed to illiberal vaccine mandates, particularly when it came to healthy young people, I along with many others believed the expert advice that the jabs would prevent transmission.

We now know that is not the case and are starting to learn how many have suffered devastating Covid-19 vaccine injuries.

Many who have suffered in silence came forward when former AMA president Kerryn Phelps penned a submission to a parliamentary inquiry detailing her own vaccine injuries.

“Vaccine injury is a subject that few in the medical profession have wanted to talk about,” Dr Phelps wrote.

“Regulators of the medical profession have censored public discussion about adverse events following immunisation, with threats to doctors not to make any public statements about anything that ‘might undermine the government’s vaccine rollout’ or risk suspension or loss of their registration.”

Veteran Liberal MP Russell Broadbent has also been an advocate for the voiceless victims who have been largely ignored by the media, politicians and some would argue, the medical fraternity.

“It’s very distressing to have these people face-to-face and be speaking to them when you see some of them are so severely damaged,” Broadbent said on Sky News this week.

Not sure if it was presented here, but at Hot Air there is an article about Fauci and his lies.

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 11, 2023 6:24 am

Retired Captain Seth Keshel was a star performer at Mike Lindell’s symposium on the 2020 election back in 2021. His data analysis was compelling. He showed how so many individual results in 2020 were unprecedented – which points to the sort of fraud we know happened.
The US MSM didn’t cover it then, and now it falls to Gateway Pundit to give us a reprise. He outlines the measures that have to be applied if elections are to be proper again.
link

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 11, 2023 6:24 am

Fauci here
So rosie can continue taking pot shots at vax injury from the balconies of hotels in Italy, or she can slowly come to the realisation, like many others around the world, that they were duped.

Gabor
Gabor
February 11, 2023 6:25 am

Came across this, no comment either way but…

The price of being alone.
“I remember that summit well.
He was left alone at the table, he was alone at all the G20 events in Australia, and when he finally realized his role, he just stood up and walked away, shaking the hand of the policeman with the escort.
How much dirt and gossip he received at his address during all his time in power. Dozens of Putin’s palaces, billions on Putin’s accounts … the world’s best intelligence agencies have been searching for the base assets of the President of Russia for many years, but without finding anything, they put all their efforts to pinch Putin’s “friends”.
And what about himself, why doesn’t he assemble a team of court journalists to refute the endless lies addressed to him? The answer is simple – his deeds speak for him.
He came in far 1999, when the country had only one name left. The humiliating “Russia’s default” just roared around the world.
GDP-195 billion, and State Debt-190 $ billion.
Putin accepted a bankrupt country whose asset value was practically equal to its external debt.
With what did isolated Russia of the era of the outcast Putin approach 2018?
Only in the “sanctioned” year 2017, the country’s GDP grew by 2.7% and amounts to $ 3 trillion 445 billion.
Just compare the two numbers…
-GDP 1999 – 195 billion $
-GDP 2017 – 3 trillion 445 billion $
… and you will understand the price of the President’s loneliness. ”
I will add from myself.
I remember Russia without Putin perfectly.
Shooting of Parliament, tanks and BTRs ringing at night under the window on Babushkinskaya, where I lived, the military is in full display throughout Moscow. Blood puddles on the sidewalks. The corpse of a passer-by with a crushed tank head on the road.
Have you seen? I saw it.
War in Chechnya, and several business trips there of my friends from the special forces with whom fanatically learned real aikido for Dynamo for 7 years. Roma nicknamed “Goblin”, a big guy under 2 meters. 2 injuries, just getting back on my feet.
The guys were telling how they merged Chechnya to international terrorists.
Treason and corruption of officers, drug trafficking, tons of dollars in bribes. The boys who were sent to the slaughterhouse by traitors to create discontent in the country died.
Didn’t you have to meet a hundred 200s in zinc and see the madness of mothers jumping hysterically on a metal box?
God forbid!
Did you forget the “Nord-East” that happened thanks to corrupt militia who let military trucks with terrorists, explosives and weapons to almost the center of Moscow for 2-3 thousand dollars?
Have they forgotten school in Beslan?
When hostages were drinking their urine to avoid dying of thirst, when closing the child who had escaped through the window killed our special forces officers.
Unemployment, thousands of enterprises are closed, professors are traded in the markets, budget workers have not received salaries for years.
Somehow in the center of Moscow I left the entrance hall and got into a bandit showdown. Automatic queues and gunshots, screams of the wounded, corpses near the cars. And you, in a clean suit and a white shirt, crawl on your stomach under the wall of the house in the mud on a flowerbed around the corner, so as not to add to the statistics of “natural depletion of the population”.
We lost more population in the 1990s than we did in the Great Patriotic War.
Don’t you remember? I – Remember.
Putin is not an angel and I do not idealize him. But I want to pay tribute to this man.
After all, I remember who stopped all this madness. And sometimes I want to ask those who criticize and throw dirt on this man:
AND WHAT DID YOU DO TO STOP THIS?

Gabor
Gabor
February 11, 2023 6:40 am

Gabor says:
February 11, 2023 at 6:25 am

previous post,
Probably better in Russian but I don’t speak it.
Sometimes, bad rulers do good things, and good ones fail dismally.

As to his billions? Where is it and what use is it to him? Any reality bites from the usual suspects?
Say he is deposed, then what?
Where can he go and use it?
In that part of the world defenstration or straight out elimination is the order of the day.
Pesky questions.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 6:43 am

Newest wheeze to attack righties: disinformation ratings.

EU Attacks Elon Musk’s Twitter for Allegedly Failing So-Called ‘Disinformation’ Test (10 Feb)

“Elon Musk’s Twitter has allegedly failed a test examining whether it has been sufficiently complying with EU demands on “disinformation”, a report on Thursday has claimed.

A number of social media platforms are said to have taken part in the voluntary test, which was implemented as part of the censorious new Digital Services Act being put into full force by the union this year.”

‘Disinformation’ Groups Target Conservative News Outlets (10 Feb)

“So-called “disinformation” tracking groups, many with a liberal bias, are working behind the scenes to target, blacklist, and defund conservative news outlets, according to an exclusive report by the Washington Examiner.

The UK-based Global Disinformation Index, which claims to be nonpolitical and nonpartisan, said it aims to “remove the financial incentive” that creates “disinformation” by publishing a “Disinformation Index” of “high risk” global news publications.

Their list is then disseminated to major advertising companies for use in their decision-making process. Many ad platforms are using these blacklists to effectively de-monetize conservative and right-leaning media.”

The irony of course is that it is lefty MSM that spews disinformation endlessly. And the righties by and large are telling the truth on everything from Hunter’s laptop, stolen elections and the absence of global warming. Which the censorious left hates, hence this repression.

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 11, 2023 6:50 am

To my list of good or tolerable politicians that have been removed in the last ten years I add Stephen Harper in Canada.

sfw
sfw
February 11, 2023 7:09 am

Malcom Roberts has put up a link to a petition calling for an inquiry into Australia’s wuflu response.

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN4670

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 11, 2023 7:17 am

Alice Springs.

It would appear that the return of massive restrictions on bulk piss in communities is doing its job – ie, the thousands of indig who came into Alice to ‘visit family’ (get shitfaced 24/7) are leaving.

Over a 24 hour period last week there were 37 ‘serious’ domestic violence incidents. For the same reporting period this week – 5.

They’re not going home though. They’re being displaced to Katherine, Mount Isa and a few have relocated to D-Town.

Because quite a few have northern SA connections, heaps of them have also pissed off that way. Apparently the Stuart Highway between Alice and Marla is littered with broken-down shitboxes.

I hope this hundreds-of-kilometres-long vehicle graveyard is still there in ten days or so. I want to take photos.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 7:25 am

From the dead thread:

Mr Thompson told The Weekend Australian that Mr Drumgold instructed him not to seek development approval for the works on either property because the ­approvals “would take too long”. He said that Mr Drumgold’s refusal to pay the balance owing for his work was “a kick in the guts”.

Drumgold – development approval is for the “little” people.

As for withholding the final payment…typical.

Sounds like a complete and utter tosser, with or without his persecution of Lehrmann. The type I used to offer the names of despised competitors to because suddenly I couldn’t schedule the work.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 7:33 am

Interesting, Gabor. And a question I ask myself too. We’ve seen what happens when strong leaders are removed from turbulent countries by US dabblers.

Death, destruction, misery, danger to us and much…much money made by armaments dealers.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 7:33 am

Stew in your dogbox, proles, and like it.

The Conversation: Using Your Air Conditioner is a Form of Climate Denial (9 Feb)

“Hannah Della Bosca
PhD Candidate and Research Assistant at Sydney Environment Institute, University of Sydney

While the days of overt climate denial are mostly over, there’s a distinct form of denial emerging in its stead. You may have experienced it and not even realised. It’s called implicatory denial, and it happens when you consciously recognise climate change as a serious threat without making significant changes to your everyday behaviour in response.

Why does this matter?

If we use technologies like aircon to avoid dealing with the root causes of climate change, we are in denial.

As the world heats up, demand for air conditioning has skyrocketed. The International Energy Agency has estimated that by 2050, up to two-thirds of the world’s households will have installed aircon, particularly in China, India and Indonesia.”

We can sure breed ’em in this country. My old uni leads the way in unscience and leftism now. It’s sad.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 7:45 am

While the days of overt climate denial are mostly over, there’s a distinct form of denial emerging in its stead. You may have experienced it and not even realised. It’s called implicatory denial, and it happens when you consciously recognise climate change as a serious threat without making significant changes to your everyday behaviour in response.

Oh. You mean climate hypocrisy*.

Like my rabid sil who rages against us “deniers” while chilling in her air conditioned home, swims in her heated pool and drives about in her thirsty Merc. And enjoys overseas travel and nice, comfy, insulated hotels. Apart from the Merc, her lifestyle is no different to mine. Just what comes out of her mouth.

People want air conditioning for the same reason they want refrigerators – it’s an improvement on the life of a primitive. Go anywhere in SE asia and you’ll see split systems and units hanging out of windows of very non salubrious dwellings, even ones on waterways. Because it’s the tropics.

* if I’m going to be dubbed a “denier” I see no reason not to return serve

shatterzzz
February 11, 2023 7:55 am

Gotta luv it when the woke start eating the woke .. LOL!
The queer folk luv-in ha srejecte dan application from “thugby” League to participate in their disgust ..
seems wearing jumpers and swearing undying devotion just ain’t enuf ….. duuuuuh!
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/pride-jersey-fiasco-reignites-after-nrl-snubbed-from-2023-mardi-gras/news-story/3506cd39f705559f40d0818ba69eca5d

Diogenes
Diogenes
February 11, 2023 7:56 am

From da old fred

Never heard of GP shortages before COVID and now there is suddenly.

If you don’t move much and have been on the books for years you probably wouldn’t have noticed.

We had trouble trying to get to see a GP when we moved to the Central Coast in 2011 as all the surgeries had closed their books. The GP we eventually got in to see said the coast needed at least 20 and ideally 50 more, that was as I said 2011.

Same problems on Sunshine Coast, our GP says we need at least 100 GPs. They had 2 retire from their surgery and have not been able to replace them.

The rot started about 5 years after Howard restricted Medicare provider numbers, and has been getting worse every year and was not helped by the govt Covid regulations forcing Drs like DrDuk out.

Crossie
Crossie
February 11, 2023 7:59 am

As the world heats up, demand for air conditioning has skyrocketed. The International Energy Agency has estimated that by 2050, up to two-thirds of the world’s households will have installed aircon, particularly in China, India and Indonesia.”

As people get richer and can afford to buy air conditioners is now proof of global warming. It was intellectual power like the one exhibited here that led to all our industries moving where they are welcome and enriching the producers’ populations. All we produce these days are embarrassing idiots.

Gabor
Gabor
February 11, 2023 7:59 am

Diogenes says:
February 11, 2023 at 7:56 am

All praise to good plumbers and good luck to them, but when they make more money than medical doctors, we have a problem.

Cassie of Sydney
February 11, 2023 8:00 am

“Sounds like a complete and utter tosser, with or without his persecution of Lehrmann. The type I used to offer the names of despised competitors to because suddenly I couldn’t schedule the work.”

The whole stench behind Higgins, Lehmann, Drumgold, Gallagher and co is yet to fully unravel, but we have been thrown tidbits, and one of them is why Drumgold suddenly dropped the case in late November, citing Brittaneeeeee’s mental state.

I’m still waiting for the Liberals to refer the Higgins’ case to the new federal ICAC. Are they that spineless? Why, yes they are!

I find it interesting that despite Lehmann’s legal action against Maiden, Janet A is continuing to post stories around the case. As mentioned here before, I don’t think there is any love lost between Janet A and Ms Maiden.

Meanwhile, the roadkill here in Lehmann, his life is completely and utterly destroyed. There’ll be no trips and selfies from the Maldives for him, certainly not now and maybe not ever.

Indolent
Indolent
February 11, 2023 8:00 am

Hydroxychloroquine had fda approval withdrawn after it was found to cause irregular heart rhythms in covid patients.

I have a bridge to sell you.

Min
Min
February 11, 2023 8:04 am

In writing twice from the Chair of our Owners Corporation committee I have been accused of putting my neighbour ‘into shock and compelling her to sign a form she did not know what she was signing ‘’
This man i s great at projection ,psychological definition, as he is a bully. He signed the 16 page letter to me for all committee So I politely wrote with help could he please confirm that all members had read letter full content as they would be also culpable of the libellous statements he made He instead got legal advice opining not enough grounds . Although probably did not pick up what Into shock actually means . BTW I have witnesses who says this accusation did not happen , he does not know this and the lady herself did not complain of anything and well into cognitive decline so will have no memory of incident ‘we are good friends. One committee member has already admitted only read 2 pages.
How do I counteract this bully without costly lawyers.? He is the one through misinformation , threatening letters to get residents to sign an open contract for 6 million dollars for recladding building but as there has been non compliant construction resulting in water damage and mould since here will be huge costs to rectify all paid for by residents.

Dot
Dot
February 11, 2023 8:08 am

Wow.

Really drinking the Putin Kool Aid today.

The bombings preceding the Second Chechen War were very likely a false flag.

I’m not joking. Putin murdered those who wanted an inquiry.

Blowing Up Russia: Terror From Within (English)

Acts of terror, abductions and contract killings organised by the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation.

Alexander Litvinenko & Yuri Felshtinsky

https://libertypublishinghouse.com/shop/english-language/blowing-up-russia-terror-from-within-english/

Co-authored by Alexander Litvinenko, the victim of the notorious 2006 London polonium poisoning, the book attempts to demonstrate that modern Russia’s most fundamental problems are not the result of radical reforms during the liberal Yeltsin period, but from the open and clandestine resistance offered to these reforms by the Russian special services. It was they who unleashed the first and second Chechen wars, in order to divert Russia away from the path of democracy and towards dictatorship, militarism, and chauvinism.

The authors allege that the Russian apartment bombings and other September 1999 terrorist acts were committed by the Federal Security Service. Litvinenko and Felshtinsky write the bombings were a false flag operation intended to justify second Chechen War and bring Vladimir Putin to power.

The war in Chechnya has made human life cheap in Russia. The brutal killings and the trade in slaves and hostages have thrown the country back to the days of slavery. Thousands of people who go through the war in Chechnya are forced to kill. They can never go back to civilian life.

Chechnya is the FSB’s workshop, the training ground for the future personnel of the Russian special services and freelance brigades of mercenary killers. The longer this war goes on, the more irreversible its consequences become. One of its fatal consequences is the eternal hatred of Chechens for Russia and Russians.

Originally published in 2002.

Cassie of Sydney
February 11, 2023 8:09 am

Since leaving office last year, Blob Johnson has been richly rewarded for lying to Britons, for partying whilst locking everyone else down, for doing nothing whilst PM, for squandering an electoral mandate that is never likely to be repeated, for helping to collapse the UK energy grid, and for finally destroying the Conservative Party. He’s pocketed over 5 million pounds since September last year. No wonder he gets along well with Zelensky.

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 11, 2023 8:19 am

Shatterz I don’t see any downside that the NRL have been snubbed from the Mardi Gras.
I may be delusional in this idea but the NRL should now can Pride Match or whatever they call it. Who knows, the league might see a rise in attendance figures from disgruntled fans that have this and Indigenous Round shoved down throats ad nauseum

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 11, 2023 8:22 am

Are the current crop of pollimuppets the most amoral and loathesome ever? To be honest Fraser looks good compared to current garbage. As for blow job, steaming trash is an understatement. Grubs like that need to be squashed.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 8:23 am

Hydroxychloroquine had fda approval withdrawn after it was found to cause irregular heart rhythms in covid patients.

There can be a raft of reasons for that, so take your pick.

– hydroxy given to covid patients causes heart problems
– covid is responsible for the heart problems and hydroxy is an innocent bystander
– hydroxy may be helpful but patients are too far gone with covid for it to be of any use
– vaccinations plus subsequent covid infection is the cause of the heart problems and hydroxy no use at all
– the FDA is lying so hydroxy cannot be used because reasons*
– hydroxy is useful but the FDA wants people dead*

* the last two stray into the area of nefariousness, first being greed and bribery, the second being psychopathy

As I said, take your pick.

Indolent
Indolent
February 11, 2023 8:25 am

Since leaving office last year, Blob Johnson has been richly rewarded

For doing exactly what his masters wanted. I greatly admire Gonzalo Lira and have linked several of his clips. He keeps pointing out how Biden/America’s actions (betraying friends, sequestering/stealing other people’s money) are actually hurting America. I wonder whether it’s occurred to him that perhaps that’s exactly what was intended.

alwaysright
alwaysright
February 11, 2023 8:26 am

…slowly come to the realisation, like many others around the world, that they were duped

“Do not try to teach those who are not prepared to learn”

“Knowledge cannot be imparted to those whose opinion is unchanging”

“Assume everything you have been taught is wrong”

“You can drag a horse to water but you …” [apologies to a NZ politician]

Indolent
Indolent
February 11, 2023 8:30 am

As I said, take your pick.

You left one out. As was done with ivermecton, testing using toxic levels. And nefarious is a mild term for what has been going on for three years, viz, as just one example among many, Fauci’s admission above.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 8:32 am

“Knowledge cannot be imparted to those whose opinion is unchanging”

Chuckle.

As you can see above, I can audition quite a few scenarios before breakfast.

But I don’t have to believe them.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 8:35 am

Nefarious.

Means evil, villainous, wicked.

I think I used the right word. The problem is that most people don’t understand what “evil” actually means and what depths it plumbs.

duncanm
duncanm
February 11, 2023 8:44 am

Hydroxychloroquine had fda approval withdrawn after it was found to cause irregular heart rhythms in covid patients.

*in high doses*

Here’s the study.. Very small sample size that was used to knock any treatment with HCQ/CQ on the head.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.07.20056424v1.full.pdf

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2023 8:44 am

I see Shakin’ Steven* has been popping his circuit breakers again overnight.
…..
* Tickler, the Earthquake Predictinator.

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2023 8:49 am

ACT to calculate vehicle registration costs by emissions produced, in a move expected to be followed by other states.

So people who can’t afford to update their vehicle, will effectively be subsidising those who can afford an EV, who already receive 2 years free registration on their new vehicle.

So much for progressive bleating about equity.

Cassie of Sydney
February 11, 2023 8:49 am

“climate hypocrisy*.”

Excellent comment calli. And I really think we need to start using the term “climate hypocrites” with those who accuse us of being “climate deniers”.

I think most of us here can remember a time, not too long ago, when nobody had air-conditioning. Growing up in the 1970s, I don’t recall anyone having air-conditioning. We had one fan in the house, in the living room, on the one television set in the house, smack in bang front of where my father used to sit every night to watch the ABC news followed by “This Day Tonight”. It was one of those noisy mistral fans.

I remember when we still lived in Sydney and as children we would go down to visit my grandparents in the Shire, I still recall those days vividly, they were hot humid days. There were no fans, when my grandfathers weren’t pottering in the gardens, my grandparents would sit on the verandah or under the porch and sip tea to keep cool.

We moved to Perth in the late 1970s (1977) and most summer days were about 37 or 38 degrees. I remember 40 degree days, it wasn’t unusual, nobody screeched “climate change”. Living in Perth on those hot summer days, I remember after school (there was no air-con in classrooms), we’d walk down to the new Cottesloe shopping centre mall which had air-conditioning. We’d joke about how cold it was!

When I tell my nephews and niece about how growing up we had no air-conditioning, and there was only one television in the house, and there was one only telephone in the house, and there was only one bathroom in the house, they look at me as though I’m from another planet.

Even now I don’t have air-conditioning. I have a fan. The problem is that we now live in a very spoilt time filled with many spoilt people. Even dogs are now spoilt. Growing up our puppy dogs didn’t have air-conditioning and they were given Pal to eat. However, my sister’s two puppy dogs are very accustomed to air-conditioning and gourmet food. But at least our canine friends aren’t lecturing us and calling us “climate deniers”.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2023 8:50 am

The whole stench behind Higgins, Lehmann, Drumgold, Gallagher and co is yet to fully unravel, but we have been thrown tidbits, and one of them is why Drumgold suddenly dropped the case in late November, citing Brittaneeeeee’s mental state

Unless it gets nobbled (always a possibility) this inquiry has the potential to be a beauty.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
February 11, 2023 8:51 am

Min, I can’t recall if you are in VIC?, but I’m pretty sure the law was changed a few years back such that if they can get to a certain %, they can legally force the hold outs to comply rather than needing a unanimous decision – may explain why the Chair is pushing hard.

Indolent
Indolent
February 11, 2023 8:55 am

With all that’s known now (and, as Fauci has just admitted, was from the beginning) this is simply premeditated murder.

IT’S OFFICIAL: CDC Adds COVID-19 Vaccine to Routine Immunization Schedule for Children and Adolescents

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 11, 2023 9:00 am

Have a read of the reportage
FMD

Cassie of Sydney
February 11, 2023 9:01 am

“I see Shakin’ Steven* has been popping his circuit breakers again overnight.”

I didn’t read back but have now. Perhaps Shakin Steve should post similar comments on Adam’s blog and see how long he lasts.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2023 9:02 am

Sarah Henderson doing a good job in holding the ALPBC MDs feet to the fire over Seven Nilligan in Senate Estimates. Possibly the best functioning part of our democracy.

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 11, 2023 9:07 am

Have a look at the reportage
FMD

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2023 9:08 am

Have a read of the reportage
FMD

Pat Cash a cooker, eh?

I’ve long had my suspicions.

[:D]

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 9:11 am

Black Ball says:
February 11, 2023 at 9:00 am

Pathetic. Gee, you wouldn’t want to have an alternative worldview anywhere near that reporter. Not even the slightest departure from the “recieved knowledge” would escape that witchfinder general.

Slater and Cash are well within their rights to question the covid response and the dangers of the so-called vaccines. And also the climate change hysteria and the way western countries are being denied energy while China and others burn unabated, and the ridiculous “nudging” towards zero emissions (whatever that means).

The pathetic drone who wrote that needs some time in the stocks.

Indolent
Indolent
February 11, 2023 9:12 am
Diogenes
Diogenes
February 11, 2023 9:12 am

All praise to good plumbers and good luck to them, but when they make more money than medical doctors, we have a problem.

My brothers GF is an ER doctor, she said since GPs became a “specialisation” with extra training , certification etc etc, many medical grads are going “stuff it, for the same time/effort I can become a xxx & make the big bucks”.

Sadly we do not have enough specialists in anything else either as the Colleges are also restricting the number of training places.

Petros
Petros
February 11, 2023 9:13 am

Should we have an occasional thread devoted to talking to brainwashed people? I am developing some lines to say to them when certain topics come up. Thoughts?

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 11, 2023 9:13 am

Hydroxychloroquine had fda approval withdrawn after it was found to cause irregular heart rhythms in covid patients. Did Clive take it? Doesn’t sound like he did.

Hydroxychloroquine (like Ivermectin) was on the WHO ‘Essential Medicines’ list and was used, unsupervised, by millions in the 3rd world for decades. It was also widely used for patients with inflammatory arthritis. Like all drugs it has side effects but these, including the cardiac issue (PR prolongation – the same effect that the US FAA has now ‘normalised’ by changing the ECG parameters for pilots btw!!). It was only when the forces of darkness discovered it was effective for covid that it had to be demonised (you cant have emergency authorisation of the covid shots if there is an effective existing remedy).

So they killed it with a fraudulent study where they overdosed the patients greatly (gave them 8x the correct dose if i remember rightly).

I also think Clive had Ivermectin – I understand they sourced it from a Dr who was aboard.

I personally spoke to my local pharmacist about filling prophylactic scripts for Hydroxychloroquine early on – she said they had been instructed by the pharmacy guild NOT to full them.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 11, 2023 9:15 am

Drumgold’s behaviour would be the norm amongst the club.

Vagabond
Vagabond
February 11, 2023 9:17 am

Never heard of GP shortages before COVID and now there is suddenly.

I was working in General Practice in the early 1980s when Medicare started and fortunately moved to another field a bit later . Even then it was obvious to anyone except populist Liars politicians, venal entrepreneurs (think pink helicopters, grand pianos and crystal chandeliers) and their tame “health economists” that it was going to be unsustainable. Now we have General Practice disappearing due to a perfect storm consisting of:

Economic lack of viability of Medicare including the lack of a demand management and paltry increases in the rebates
Low incomes for GPs compared to pretty much any other specialty
Entrepreneurial corporatisation of primary care
The traitorous and self serving influence of the AMA and RACGP (known for years in the profession as the College of Wankers)
The jackboot of regulation applied by AHPRA
Part time working by docs, in part due to the increased number of female doctors who need to balance work and family commitments
Continued attempts by other professions (pharmacy etc) to get a bite of the Medicare cake – god knows whey they want it, it’s like turkeys voting for Christmas
The Pandemic
Years of training required to increase the supply of Australian educated GPs even if all the other stuff was fixed tomorrow (which it won’t be!)

I could go on…

The only surprise is that it took 40 years. The only satisfying aspect is that the collapse is happening under a Liars government. Medicare was the most holy sacred cow of all for the ALP and it will be popcorn time watching them having to deal with its collapse.

Tom
Tom
February 11, 2023 9:18 am

Have a read of the reportage
FMD

Thanks for the link at 9am, Black Ball.

You have to realise that Ruperdink Mudrock designed news.com.au to appeal to gullible idiots by using the same gullibility — and you can forget about ethics.

News.com.au “journalists” don’t see it as their jobs to tell the truth, but to tell their gullible readers what they want to hear.

News.com.au is the opposite of journalism because Ruperdink Mudrock figured out that gullibility is a disinformation market he can exploit.

Last time I looked, news.com.au was the most popular “news” website in Australia.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 11, 2023 9:25 am

T’would appear Mr Drumgold, accustomed to being a medium-sized dog in a little yard, is becoming a bit fractious when subject to broader scrutiny – i.e., anything outside the Canberra quinoa belt.

He can kiss his aspirational governorship bye bye.

Toodle-pip, you flog.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 11, 2023 9:26 am

calli says:
February 11, 2023 at 8:23 am

Hydroxychloroquine had fda approval withdrawn after it was found to cause irregular heart rhythms in covid patients.

calli,

As Unvaxxed, have HCQ & Arithomycin ready to go (unable to get Ivermectin), and still keeping on with Anti-virals that I had been taking well before Covid started

Still only one in Family not to have had Covid

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2023 9:27 am

My brothers GF is an ER doctor, she said since GPs became a “specialisation” with extra training , certification etc etc, many medical grads are going “stuff it, for the same time/effort I can become a xxx & make the big bucks”.

I think there is plenty of expenses seeking to maintain “accreditation”. Just another ticket clipping exercise by a professional service group. When the alternative is joining a corporate practice management company (more $$$) suddenly 5++ years of study doesn’t look like a great idea. Medicare has its issues but it isn’t the only issue by a long shot.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 11, 2023 9:27 am

sfw says:
February 11, 2023 at 7:09 am

Malcom Roberts has put up a link to a petition calling for an inquiry into Australia’s wuflu response.

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN4670

sfw,

signed & confirmed

alwaysright
alwaysright
February 11, 2023 9:30 am

So, what is the best news site in Australia?

m0nty
m0nty
February 11, 2023 9:30 am

Clive Palmer spoke at the end of the event. Mentioned he caught pneumonia and then Covid. Dr’s in hospital told him he had 5 hours to live

LOL what a bullshit artist.

alwaysright
alwaysright
February 11, 2023 9:32 am

The Indians are creating a bit of cognitive dissonance amongst the Au cricket team.
C’mon India.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2023 9:34 am

News.com.au is the opposite of journalism because Ruperdink Mudrock figured out that gullibility is a disinformation market he can exploit.

I suspect it has long been a dumping ground inside News Corpse. Who was that fat slob with the badly fitting shirts who used to appear on The Ol’ Leathery Comedy Hour?

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 11, 2023 9:34 am

He can kiss his aspirational governorship bye bye.

He’ll get something.
I’m thinking some federal court role.
It’s all about the bloated pension for life.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 9:36 am

Tom, you have described the character of Mark Studdock, the sociologist cum press release writer in Lewis’ “That Hideous Strength”.

Glib examinees with no real knowledge of science or the classics, easily manipulated into mouthing the party line.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2023 9:37 am

ftb – might be a bit late for that. Maybe preselection somewhere?

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 9:38 am

Who was that fat slob with the badly fitting shirts who used to appear on The Ol’ Leathery Comedy Hour?

Malcolm Farr?

Leathery was lucky not to lose an eye.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 9:39 am

alwaysright says:
February 11, 2023 at 9:30 am
So, what is the best news site in Australia?

As your screen name suggests…us.

😀

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 11, 2023 9:40 am

Maybe preselection somewhere?

Zero chance.
His current pension scheme would be better than any politicians pension anyway.
All he has to do is get onto some form of federal judge role (maybe in the family court somewhere) serve 2 years then bloated pension for life.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 11, 2023 9:41 am

So, what is the best news site in Australia?

Twitter.
Curate your news flow.
Choose your own adventure.

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2023 9:46 am

Gee, you wouldn’t want to have an alternative worldview anywhere near that reporter. Not even the slightest departure from the “recieved knowledge” would escape that witchfinder general.

I mentioned yesterday a QLD university research project that found that vaccine scepticism increased with socio-economic status.

The upshot was that educated and well to do folks imagined they had free agency in regard to their health.

This notion had to be addressed by “strategies.”

This is the jursidiction in which GPs who contradict official government health advice can now be subject to investigation and penalty.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2023 9:48 am

Clive Palmer spoke at the end of the event. Mentioned he caught pneumonia and then Covid. Dr’s in hospital told him he had 5 hours to live

Fat Cloive has been reading too much Daily Exposé.
BTW, he still hasn’t produced the election fraud video.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 11, 2023 9:48 am

Driving around this morning.
Something must be with yellow bin collections in parts of Paddington & Woollahra.
Notice a few streets with the yellow bins out & overflowing.

Pogria
Pogria
February 11, 2023 9:49 am

alwaysrightsays:
February 11, 2023 at 9:30 am
So, what is the best news site in Australia?

Catallaxy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2023 9:50 am

alwaysright says:
February 11, 2023 at 9:30 am
So, what is the best news site in Australia?

The Furniture Store.

Pogria
Pogria
February 11, 2023 9:50 am

Snap, Calli.

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2023 9:55 am

AusPost’s half year profit down 90%.

The roll out of electric trikes may have to pause.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 9:56 am

AusPost’s half year profit down 90%.

The orgy of online spending must have fallen off a cliff along with the lockdown “economy”.

Reality bites…hard.

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2023 10:01 am

The orgy of online spending must have fallen off a cliff along with the lockdown “economy”.

Add the spectre of rising interest rates & a large number of whopping new mortgages being taken out by first home buyers over the last three years in particular.

The perfect storm.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2023 10:03 am

ftb – I have a sneaking suspicion by the time this inquiry is over he may be joining a former AG at the ACT equivalent of the Rockingham Magistrates Court.

Real Deal
Real Deal
February 11, 2023 10:04 am

If news.com.au is popular, it is only popular because it is free and not the ABC or Grauniad. I click on it to see if there are any news stories (ie natural disasters or plane crashes etc).

You have to dig deep to find anything worthy beyond “rain bomb” stories; January heatopocalypse stories, MAFS rehashes or stories about Richard Wilkins son “stuns the red carpet” in an off the shoulder cocktail frock.

Real news doesn’t seem to get reported these days. My wife and I are holidaying on the NSW coast this week. A few nights ago three ambos screamed past to what appeared to be a car accident. Listened to local ABC radio news and the local commercial station the next morning. Nothing regarding what happened. All their news was climate change stories and indigenous affairs. The commercial network threw in a bit of sport.

Even regional news, the last holdout of fairness on the ABC has become opinion and commentary wrapped in alleged reporting.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 10:04 am

Something must be with yellow bin collections in parts of Paddington & Woollahra.
Notice a few streets with the yellow bins out & overflowing.

Clover’s bin strike spreading?

Maybe she’s away at another climate conference or something.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 11, 2023 10:04 am

Unless it gets nobbled (always a possibility) this inquiry has the potential to be a beauty.

Man for the job.

Sofronoff KC is unlikely to trash his reputation by being quietly nobbled. He’s just put Queensland Health to the sword over the forensic DNA debacle – naming names and criticising hopeless individuals– and in the process splashed shite on Queensland Governments over the past 20 years.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2023 10:05 am

AusPost’s half year profit down 90%.

No Cartier watches then?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
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calli
calli
February 11, 2023 10:08 am

Still only one in Family not to have had Covid

#metoo (except the Beloved hasn’t had it, nor my parents)

I have had to test weekly to get into an aged care facility to visit my friend as well, so it’s not due to lack of detection. The Galdalf impersonator standing between entrance and elevators means that I can’t sneak in.

In another vignette of weird, my doctor’s surgery has dropped mandatory masking. The imaging and pathology centre next door has not. So you have the ludicrous situation of two medical facilities side by side with different “rules”.

Trust the Science.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 11, 2023 10:08 am

Toodle-pip, you flog. Lucky he isn’t a bald flog otherwise the referees might have had to distance themselves.

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 11, 2023 10:09 am

Alexis Carey has been a reporter for more than 10 years, graduating with a Bachelor of Arts in Media and Communications from the University of Sydney in 2009 before landing a role at her local paper in Griffith, NSW. Alexis has since worked for NewsCorp Australia’s local news titles and at the Mamamia Women’s Network before taking a career break to travel. She joined news.com.au in 2017 as a finance reporter and then finance editor before joining the news team in 2020.

another marxist drone vomited up by our ‘universities’

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 11, 2023 10:10 am

In Performative Politics news:

‘It was a success’: White House says a second ‘high altitude object’ shot down over Alaska

But, but, but – what about people on the ground?

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2023 10:12 am

Seems a stubborn streak of recalcitrance yet remains among Scots:

Scotland turns on gender ideology.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 10:15 am

This is the jursidiction in which GPs who contradict official government health advice can now be subject to investigation and penalty.

The Oz reports today that Prof. Nikolai Petrovsky is getting the Peter Ridd treatment.

University to sever ties with ‘refusenik’ vax developer (Oz, paywalled)

Vaccine developer Nikolai Petrovsky is set to lose of his academic affiliation at Flinders University after a meeting of its senior executive resolved to end its relationship with the professor.

Not allowed to criticize Big Vax. Theory seems to be that’s also why James O’Keefe has been monstered.

Bar Beach Swimmer
February 11, 2023 10:17 am

Black Ballsays:
February 11, 2023 at 6:24 am
Fauci here

Robert F Kennedy Jnr reports on all this stuff in his book on Fauci. Fauci is using the same playbook he’s used over many, many years – lying; obfuscation; back-peddling; grandiose pronouncements and great, new plans; contradiction, etc etc. BC (Before Covid) you just have to look at his pursuit of a HIV “vaccine” as the template. However, there are many more disasters under Fauci and his minions.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 11, 2023 10:18 am

Continued attempts by other professions (pharmacy etc) to get a bite of the Medicare cake – god knows whey they want it, it’s like turkeys voting for Christmas

Correct, *any* sane health care profession who has so far managed to stay outside the medicare system is better off. Chiropractors and Dentists are, if i remember correctly, and simply charge what they deem correct, and let the demand side sort it self out.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 11, 2023 10:21 am

In Erroneous Practices news:

Australian intelligence agency advised departmental discretion on using Chinese equipment 14 months ago

The defence minister, Richard Marles, and the foreign affairs minister, Penny Wong, vowed to ensure any such equipment was removed from their departments, while a wider review was also launched by the attorney general, Mark Dreyfus.

China’s foreign affairs ministry warned Australia against “erroneous practices of overstretching the concept of national security and abusing state power to discriminate against and suppress Chinese companies”.

Just when Penny thought it was safe to go back into the water…

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 11, 2023 10:23 am

As Unvaxxed, have HCQ & Arithomycin ready to go (unable to get Ivermectin), and still keeping on with Anti-virals that I had been taking well before Covid started

Vitamin I is still readily available on Ebay. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/185193448158?epid=1022627017&hash=item2b1e63c2de:g:YMYAAOSwR85hpvsh&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4JQ8tWr1M%2Fz0%2BmehWxshVGP54FZzYqerkFeHOdPBPm28b2DoIHczZmhg%2FaWnJs4QBHbFpDucs870DBdORWbwBiB%2FUMp0ZHyO81i1XrN2I3POkwkYWrCSwqzP0wzFt9imdiq2YJl0bCwSKc9oVKALzMvbD5b0lfYDSbDtcq5Mlbw%2FUuQuqasQ6LIr0fZ22QABEoZfvAeTeyrOaAY1mGsb9yy0a%2F4s6q4Skdq687MShzr1QzkZ8vMhxBuGYiUqlDa61GnuoaIHauZnDrwp5%2Bi35zi8KgJfl2dINT3LKUrZLQbu%7Ctkp%3ABFBMtNeH2sdh

I often buy it for my horses. I am 100% confident it is ‘safe and effective’ and veterinary formulations are NOT different to human formulations of the same drugs – they are made in the same factory and to the same standards.

JC
JC
February 11, 2023 10:25 am

m0nty says:
February 11, 2023 at 9:30 am

Clive Palmer spoke at the end of the event. Mentioned he caught pneumonia and then Covid. Dr’s in hospital told him he had 5 hours to live

LOL what a bullshit artist.

Why is he bullshitting, Fatboy. Like you, Clive is quite obese. Serious COVID complications are attracted to fatties. If Clive had pneumonia and then COVID, he was on the hit list. You should be careful and lose 70 kilos.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 11, 2023 10:27 am

Clive Palmer spoke at the end of the event. Mentioned he caught pneumonia and then Covid. Dr’s in hospital told him he had 5 hours to live

LOL what a bullshit artist.

Monty, Craig Kelly told me the exact same thing face to face last year, what’s your source?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 11, 2023 10:27 am

Roger the surveys on trannies show 1/3 of the population are mentally disabled and 1/3 don’t know if they’re mentally disabled. I’ve just checked, I’ve got a dick, my dog has a dick. Conclusion, I’m a dog. Thank heavens for that. I thought I might have been a tranny. FMD

Bar Beach Swimmer
February 11, 2023 10:27 am

Rogersays:
February 11, 2023 at 10:12 am
Seems a stubborn streak of recalcitrance yet remains among Scots:

Roger, I see the ole “rubber hitting the road” there. When the question is academic it’s easy to accept; when the question is concrete, it’s not.

See that referendum on breaking with the UK – once the Scots realised who would be paying for their pensions and defence, they voted it down.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 10:28 am

In another vignette of weird, my doctor’s surgery has dropped mandatory masking. The imaging and pathology centre next door has not.

The CDC still refuses to accept that masks are literally worse than useless.

CDC Director Defends Mask Mandates After New Study Shows Masking Has Little Effect (10 Feb)

The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on Feb. 8 defended her agency’s promotion of masking after a new study found that protective masks had little effect on the spread of respiratory viruses such as COVID-19.

Which we said here day one. The coof virus is far too small for any mask to stop that you can still breathe through.

On the other hand the CDC is even more politicized than Twitter was. Got to gatekeep the lefty line, whatever it happens to be this week.

JC
JC
February 11, 2023 10:29 am

Don’t be a lard denialist, Monst. Fat is a killer, and rather than denying Clive’s complications, you ought to think carefully about what he said and treat it as a serious health warning.

Bar Beach Swimmer
February 11, 2023 10:30 am

***who would be paying***

who would NOT be paying

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 11, 2023 10:30 am

Man for the job…….. Sofronoff KC is unlikely to trash his reputation by being quietly nobbled. He’s just put Queensland Health to the sword over the forensic DNA debacle – naming names and criticising hopeless individuals– and in the process splashed shite on Queensland Governments over the past 20 years.

OK, he’s out then!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 11, 2023 10:31 am

Ukraine’s Never-Ending Demands

The world’s governments must carefully examine Zelenskyy’s demands to ensure that the war does not escalate into WWIII.

TIPPINSIGHTS EDITORIAL BOARD
February 10, 2023

Nothing in the news is ever constant, but there is one exception: Ukraine’s president Zelenskyy and his senior members requesting, urging, and even cajoling world leaders to give more and more and ever more. Weapons, missile systems, aircraft, fast-track entry into the EU, training, money for reconstruction – the list never ends.

Emboldened by the Ukraine military’s successes, work, and sacrifice, senior officials’ pitches now come with a common theme: Ukraine is the theater where democracy’s future lies, so if countries don’t support Ukraine, they are guilty of not supporting democracy. In the amplified world of social media, forcing governments to act out of a perceived sense of righteousness and shame has been a brilliant strategy of Zelenskyy’s that historians will study for generations.

Senior Ukrainian officials have cleverly usurped President George W. Bush’s “Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists” line. Speaking to a joint session of Congress nine days after 9/11, President Bush said that many countries had offered sympathy and support to the United States. The rest, he said, face a choice. “Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.” Zelenskyy often refers to Russian fighters as “terrorists” for all the gruesome civilian casualties and war crimes in which President Putin has engaged.

But there are profound differences. America was attacked on its soil using everyday objects, such as planes, by terrorists on a suicide mission. The actors were stateless, and at the time of Bush’s speech, there was doubt about who orchestrated the attacks. The world was shocked not only at the terrible killing of innocent people; there was substantial worry that if this could happen to America, it could happen to them too.

And this fear, as it proved later, was entirely justified. From 9/11 through the end of 2015, the Director of National Intelligence cataloged over 500 terror attacks in a chilling timeline spanning every part of the globe. Bush’s call for the world to unite against a common stateless enemy was not only sound but existential. And it worked as countries worldwide invested trillions on homeland security, ending privacy and freedom privileges we took for granted before 9/11.

Russia attacked Ukraine in a conventional war. President Putin began amassing his soldiers on the Ukrainian border for months. Interested parties, led by the United States, met in Geneva two months before the war to dissuade Putin from attacking. The sides couldn’t agree to settle Putin’s grievances.

When peace talks fail, human history tells us that war is often the result.

As early as September 2014, after Russia annexed Crimea, the University of Chicago political scientist John Mearsheimer, in his brilliant September 2014 piece in Foreign Affairs, “Why the Ukraine Crisis Is the West’s Fault,” blamed the United States and its allies for unknowingly provoking a major crisis over Ukraine. In an interview with the New Yorker in March 2022, Prof. Mearsheimer said, “It’s hard to say whether he’s going to go after the rest of Ukraine because—I don’t mean to nitpick here, but—that implies that he wants to conquer all of Ukraine, and then he will turn to the Baltic states, and his aim is to create a greater Russia or the reincarnation of the Soviet Union. I don’t see evidence at this point that that is true.”

But Zelenskyy and his senior staff continue to argue that if Russia annexes Ukraine, other countries may be next. And to Zelenskyy’s credit, his plan of instilling fear has worked. Sweden and Finland now have pending NATO applications. Corporate media airs stories daily about Moldova being Putin’s next target.

Ukraine has also extended its demands into other areas, continuing to build pressure on the world to act in ways Kyiv prefers. The country has been feverishly lobbying the International Olympic Committee to exclude Russian and Belarusian athletes from the Paris Games in 2024. Never mind that such a move could be a public relations nightmare for the IOC.

Last summer, Wimbledon banned tennis players from those two countries and immediately invited sanctions from the players association, which refused to award points for the tournament. In what ended up being an exhibition tournament, the eventual winner in the Ladies’ Final was a player who was born in Russia and represented Kazakhstan. Learning from Wimbledon’s mistakes, the U.S. Open and the Australian Open did not ban athletes, arguing that the players were not involved in the war and the right thing to do was to separate politics from sports.

On February 3, a Ukrainian official, Vadym Guttsait, said that if Ukraine failed to persuade international sports officials to bar Russian athletes, the country would, in his opinion, have to “skip the Olympic Games.” Not falling for this propaganda, IOC president Thomas Bach told Ukraine that Kyiv’s calls for a boycott of the 2024 Paris Games over possible participation of Russian athletes goes against Olympic “principles,” and such pressure by Kyiv on other nations was “extremely regrettable.”

Ukraine has become so used to getting its demands met that it never stops making new ones.

War strategists agree that when Elon Musk offered Starlink technology for free to the Ukrainians, it made a significant difference to fighters in the field to stay connected. But when Musk refused Ukraine’s request to use the technology for offensive warfare because Starlink was never meant to be weaponized, Ukraine immediately attacked the very benefactor that has been helping it.

According to the New York Times, Mykhailo Podolyak, a senior adviser to Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, said that companies are either on the side of Ukraine and “the right to freedom,” or they are on Russia’s side and the “right to kill and seize territories.” Starlink, he said, “should choose a specific option.”

At this rate, President Zelenskyy and his team’s guilt-inducing pressure tactics may soon lose their sting.

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2023 10:35 am

once the Scots realised who would [not] be paying for their pensions and defence, they voted it down.

And the EU helpfully pointed out that Scotland doesn’t meet its financial criteria for membership.

m0nty
m0nty
February 11, 2023 10:36 am

Why is he bullshitting, Fatboy. Like you, Clive is quite obese. Serious COVID complications are attracted to fatties. If Clive had pneumonia and then COVID, he was on the hit list. You should be careful and lose 70 kilos.

No doctor says you have five hours to live. That’s ridiculous. If you believe that, you’re gullible enough to have voted for Clive.

You could stand to lose 70 years.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 11, 2023 10:38 am

Alexis Carey has been a reporter for more than 10 years, graduating with a Bachelor of Arts in Media and Communications from the University of Sydney in 2009 before landing a role at her local paper in Griffith, NSW. Alexis has since worked for NewsCorp Australia’s local news titles and at the Mamamia Women’s Network before taking a career break to travel. She joined news.com.au in 2017 as a finance reporter and then finance editor before joining the news team in 2020.

I emailed Ms Carey, as invited in her ‘Cash is a Cooker’ story. I asked her why, prey-tell, she was so sure that 2 senior professionals who had for decades been being paid good money to make life critical decisions for their customers (myself, an anaesthetist, Hood, a Qantas Captain), could be brushed off when they felt so strongly about the safety of the covid injections, that they chose to lose their jobs, reputations etc, rather than complying?

What was she going to do if they were right?

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 11, 2023 10:41 am

Zelenskyy is an abrasive clown. You can also tell a man by his friends.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 10:43 am

prey-tell

That’s your hunter instincts coming out, Doc.

She’s like a deer in the headlights. Or a rabbit more likely.

Crummy j’lists seem to breed like them.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 11, 2023 10:43 am

No doctor says you have five hours to live. That’s ridiculous. If you believe that, you’re gullible enough to have voted for Clive.

Monty – you have 5 hours to live – there, I said it.

lotocoti
lotocoti
February 11, 2023 10:43 am

You should be careful and lose 70 kilos.

A dodgy vindaloo would achieve that in one sitting.

alwaysright
alwaysright
February 11, 2023 10:45 am

Still only one in Family not to have had Covid

4 times for me. Can anyone top that?

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 10:45 am

In other news, summer has arrived at last – too hot to garden. Just pulled out a massive clump of x amaryllacrinums but too knackered to divide them.

It will have to wait until evening. That way I won’t get sunstroke, but can provide sustenance for the mozzies.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 11, 2023 10:46 am

First reviews of Jeremy Clarkson’s Farm Season 2 with viewers all saying the same thing

Fans rush to watch Jeremy Clarkson’s farm antics with Kaleb Cooper as Series 2 starts on Amazon today, February 10

Clarkson’s Farm Season 2 aired today(February 10) with eager fans binge-watching the Amazon Prime show from the crack of dawn. And first reviews of Jeremy Clarkson’s latest Diddly Squat Farm shenanigans got viewers all saying the same thing.

The ex-Top Gear presenter made a long-awaited return with show favourite Kaleb Cooper, his wife Lisa Hogan, Gerald and ‘Cheerful’ Charlie Ireland as they endeavour to make a success of the Cotswolds farm.

The new season has eight episodes, just like the first series, but within hours, fans had raced through. Lisa Parry commented: “Watching! 7 minutes in, and I’ve not stopped laughing, smiling and feeling tremendously happier than I have done in a while.”

Laughter seemed to be the common theme from fans with most saying it was as good as the first series and one viewer even declaring Clarkson’s Farm as “probably the best programme on TV ever”.

Shayne Andrews was quick to get into the new series, saying: “Watching them cooking the chilli had tears in my eyes from laughing.” Another fan of the show Lucy said: I’m now on Episode 4! Haven’t laughed so much in ages! Another great series.”

Scott Janaway added: “How long have we been waiting for this. Probably the best program on TV ever. The man is a genius.”

Dean Taylor agreed with many about the humour saying: “Clarkson farm 2 didn’t disappoint absolutely hilarious !!!! Well done good sir.”

Jonathan Marsh spent this morning watching the new series and said: “Two in and already as good as first season. Some funny moments too.”

Success of Clarkson’s Farm, which has become a day out attraction in Chipping Norton with its own shop, has also attracted fans worldwide. Many of those were also tuning in as soon as the second season was released.

Rang Elder Daughter in Melbourne last night to check on her health – she advised fine & being helped by
watching Clarkson’s Farm Season 2 with Family

I immediately started watching after speaking to Elder Daughter, and I am up to Episode 3 & agree with statement above “How long have we been waiting for this. Probably the best program on TV ever. The man is a genius.”

Really puts in perspective how hard Farming is in the UK & the ridiculous Red Tape that hamstrings Farmers in the UK, that presumably the same exists here in OZ, all done with Humour

Up to where Jeremy & Caleb are getting a British Farmers Award for their contibution to raising awareness of British Farming and they deserve it

https://www.techradar.com/how-to/watch-clarksons-farm-season-2-online

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 10:47 am

Give me six so I can at least divide those plants before I topple from the perch.

m0nty
m0nty
February 11, 2023 10:49 am

I asked her why, prey-tell, she was so sure that 2 senior professionals who had for decades been being paid good money to make life critical decisions for their customers (myself, an anaesthetist, Hood, a Qantas Captain), could be brushed off when they felt so strongly about the safety of the covid injections, that they chose to lose their jobs, reputations etc, rather than complying?

It is hilarious that you bring up your shattered reputations, as if that confers any sort of gravitas.

“Look at me, everyone thinks I’m an idiot! Surely that means I could be right?”

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
February 11, 2023 10:50 am

Indolent says:
The ‘vaccines’ didn’t work.

I had a chat this morning with a mate I haven’t seen for 2 weeks.
Tells me he had covid very badly and had been laid up, despite being vaxxed and boosted.
I said “So what you’re telling me is that vaccines don’t work?”
“No” he replied. “I assume it just would have been even worse if I hadn’t been jabbed.”

So we’ve gone from two weeks to flatten the curve to prevent transmission and protect the community to its for your own benefit

Now if they’d told us that right from the start I believe the rate of vaccine injury would have been significantly less, because fewer people would have been coerced into taking the shot.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 10:50 am

m0ntysays:
February 11, 2023 at 9:30 am
Clive Palmer spoke at the end of the event. Mentioned he caught pneumonia and then Covid. Dr’s in hospital told him he had 5 hours to live

LOL what a bullshit artist.

LOL, almost as big a bullshit artist as someone who swore balck and blue that the streets of Malmo were perfectly safe, then wouldn’t go there to prove it.

Or someone who called for a Great (Nuclear?) War Against Wussian Imperialism, but won’t leave the safety of his basement to make a physical contribution to that war.

Or someone who calls for “Punch a Nazi”, but won’t try to do it himself.

That big a bullshit artist?

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 10:53 am

H B Bearsays:
February 11, 2023 at 9:37 am
ftb – might be a bit late for that. Maybe preselection somewhere?

Slime seat on the ACT Town Council?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 11, 2023 10:54 am

First reviews of Jeremy Clarkson’s Farm Season 2 with viewers all saying the same thing

1st Episode on Harvesting then ploughing more relevant to me as I have my No9 – 6 year old Grandson who is becoming a Farming Simulator 22 expert on X Box X Console, and has been earning money (figuratively) doing contract work for other farmers doing harvesting and cultivatin

just about to lime one of his paddocks befor ploughing

https://guides.gamepressure.com/farming-simulator-22/guide.asp?ID=62038

Would be interested in Cat Farm Bloggers on their thoughts on Farming Simulator 22 re Reality & their thoughts on what Jeremy Clarkson has revealed on UK Farming

if you can look at what is laid out in the

https://guides.gamepressure.com/farming-simulator-22/

Farming Simulator 22 Guide

Country roads, take me home Farming Simulator 22 guide contains Beginner’s Guide and best tips for this advanced farm simulator. Learn how to farm, what machines to invest in and how to effectively develop the economy of your farm.

Our guide Farming Simulator 22 aims to introduce players to the world of virtual farming and breeding. You will learn how to start an adventure with FS22, regardless of whether you are new to the series or a seasoned veteran.

The first pages of the guide focus on the beginner’s guide (e.g. which machines to choose at the start, which locations will be the most favorable, etc.) and explain the basics of the gameplay, e.g. how to buy and modify machines, make money – selling agricultural and animal products, the economic system, employing new workers, etc. We have also included a description of weather cycles and their impact on the overall gameplay. We also explain the multiplayer aspect of the game.

The main part of the guide focuses on the crops and breeding that is, the core of Farming Simulator 22’s gameplay. You will find out how to grow the individual plants, taking into account the different stages, their order, and how to influence efficiency. You will read how does the seasons’ system work and how to use the crops’ calendar. You will also learn the use of specific types of machines. The same goes for breeding – you will learn all animals, their requirements and how to earn from them. You will also learn additional activities such as fruit-growing or forestry.

The machines have a separate section of the guide. If you do not know how to use specific equipment, check out our descriptions of the machines. We also selected the best and most interesting equipment and gave them a more detailed description regarding their operation and expansion as well as their hidden uses.

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2023 10:54 am

Indigenous lawyer on ABC RN insisting Lidia Thorpe is wrong because the Voice is not tantamount to a recognition of Crown sovereignty over Australia.

The interviewer doesn’t seem to grasp the significanceof this, calling it a “fringe issue.”

Perhaps a recognition of sovereignty is one of those pesky details that needs to be worked out before Australians are called upon the decide the matter.

m0nty
m0nty
February 11, 2023 10:55 am

Hey flyingduk, are you the same anaesthetist cooker who got arrested in the ACT for hitting a traffic controller with your car?

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 11, 2023 10:55 am

From Zero Hedge:

The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) has warned Americans over the risk of including assets like cryptocurrencies in their self-directed individual retirement accounts (IRAs)

For over 30 years, I was forced to ‘invest’ in Super by having my employer remove money from each paycheck. Now that I need it in my ‘retirement’, I can only have it back if I pay a 32% tribute to the government (they ‘retired’ me before retirement age you see).

I worked out years ago that they were going to steal ALL your super (if not outright by seizure, then by rolling your funds into one single, ‘safe’, government pot from which you got paid an ever more worthless pension in printed fiat – ‘in response to overwhelming public demand for safety’). Hence, I started saving *outside* of super. I bought precious metals and bitcoin, both of which have appreciated nicely, and can be accessed whenever I wish.

*THEY*ARE*GOING*TO*STEAL*ALL*YOUR*SUPER*

P
P
February 11, 2023 10:59 am

Satanic Grammy Awards…Brought to You by Pfizer
The reason why the present vaccine regime is satanic has nothing to do with the reality of vaccinations as a form of immunization but, rather, with the rhetoric and mechanisms by which they have been enforced on the population.
Crisis Magazine – Opinion – Kennedy Hall – February 10, 2023

The ardent vaccine disciples have acted like cult followers par excellence. They have looked on the unvaxxed masses as if they were heretics cast into the exterior darkness because they did not acquiesce to the self-evident teachings of the guru. They have not only looked on the unvaccinated or vaccine-skeptical with distrust, but with resentment or disdain.

In one breath, they are concerned for the immunological salvation of the unvaccinated “other” who has not entered into the secret mysteries of Covidian Illuminism; and in the next breath, they are disgusted by the unacceptable views of people so unenlightened that they dare not agree with the beliefs of the cult.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 11, 2023 11:00 am

“Look at me, everyone thinks I’m an idiot! Surely that means I could be right?”

Thats an ‘ad-hominem’ Monty, not an argument. Would you like to try again, or just have your work marked as submitted?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 11, 2023 11:02 am

A Good Summary – Clarkson’s Farm season 2: What is the UK release date? Is Kaleb back? Everything you need to know about Diddly Squat Farm

Jeremy Clarkson reopens the doors to Diddly Squat for Clarkson’s Farm season 2 on Prime Video. Get the release date and all the latest news.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 11, 2023 11:02 am

Sovereignty at the heart of the Voice Janet Albrechtsen Follow @jkalbrechtse

12:00AM February 11, 2023
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While much of the progressive media is downplaying Lidia Thorpe’s departure from the Greens – she will be irrelevant, they say; her departure makes it easier for the government, they say – these journalists would be practising their craft to a higher standard if they explored the full extent to which the black sovereignty movement has already infiltrated the government and infused the design of the voice.

When it comes to black sovereignty, the only differences between Thorpe, on the one hand, and key members of the voice movement embedded in and advising the Albanese government, are tone, timing and subterfuge. Thorpe is brash. She doesn’t do subterfuge. And she is impatient.

But it would be a grave mistake to treat Thorpe as a fringe-dwelling maverick, or to treat the black sovereignty movement as merely a far-left analogue of the far-right “sovereign citizen” brigade. It is now becoming clear that core claims to sovereignty made by Thorpe’s Black Sovereignty Movement are shared by key figures who have been central to the drafting of the words of the Albanese Amendment and to whom the government has outsourced its legal advice on the voice.
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So much so that the words of the Albanese Amendment and the practical operation of the voice are little more than the appealing bait hiding the hook of Indigenous sovereignty. Ordinary Australians certainly have not been told this was likely and don’t realise it’s happening. It is also possible that while Albanese is very good at slogans about the voice, he has little understanding of the substance of how the voice – and his proposed words – are integral to securing black sovereignty.

We should have known, of course. The Uluru Statement from the Heart says Indigenous “sovereignty has never been ceded or extinguished and co-exists with the sovereignty of the crown”. That same Statement from the Heart proposes “an important reordering of the hierarchy of the state” and a “transformation in Australia’s established constitutional ­institutions”.

Unwisely, we paid no attention to this radical language in the Uluru Statement that reflects a long campaign for black sovereignty. Securing sovereignty depends, first and foremost, on entrenching the necessary constitutional machinery – a voice.

Instead, many Australians have been seduced by the soaring rhetoric of the Uluru Statement and misleading claims that this is a hand-holding exercise between black and white Australians, and a modest request for Indigenous people to be heard.

Closing the Gap has become an emotive cloak for upending our current system of governance and replacing it with a new constitutional deal of two peoples in one country with co-sovereignty governance structures.

Only a week after Thorpe was shouting about black sovereignty to cameras on Australia Day, and demanding assurances the voice would not affect Indigenous claims to sovereignty, the Constitutional Expert Group – to whom the government has delegated the task of giving legal advice on the voice – quietly gave Thorpe the confirmation that black sovereignty is not ceded by the voice. A few days later, the Prime Minister said the same thing.

In other words, establishment voices on the Yes side are on side with Thorpe’s claims that black sovereignty has not been ceded.

Professor George Williams, for example, has stridently rejected claims that Aboriginal sovereignty cannot be recognised in Australia. “Sovereignty for Aboriginal peoples” would “make us stronger,” he has said. Professor Megan Davis, who together with Professor Gabrielle Appleby, leads the Indigenous Law Centre at the University of NSW, and drafted proposed language which formed the model for the Albanese Amendment, has similarly said that “the Australian legal system is a system that was received from the Imperial British Crown. Aboriginal people have never consented nor ceded. Sovereignty did not pass from Aboriginal people to the settlers.”

Like critical race theory, the intellectual foundation for the black sovereignty movement in Australia came from universities, academics and influential research centres, such as the Indigenous Law Centre at UNSW. While Thorpe fronts cameras, and inhabitants of the Tent Embassy outside Parliament House are doing it their way, a long and ­focused academic industry has quietly and painstaking laid claim to black sovereignty through academic papers.

Claims that the voice has nothing to do with sovereignty are nonsense. The voice is the necessary precursor to securing black sovereignty. Moreover, the influence of black sovereignty academics is reflected in the wording of the Albanese Amendment, which, in turn, lays the groundwork for joint ­sovereignty of the country over all policy areas, because all policy areas affect Indigenous people in some way, just as the same policies affect non-Indigenous Australians. Representative democracy is set to be displaced by the new constitutional arrangements sought in the Uluru Statement.

Given that the PM has not explained the legal implications of the voice, he will run a mile from demands to explain the legal implications of black sovereignty. Yet we are entitled to very detailed legal and practical explanations from the Prime Minister of what flows from co-sovereignty.

We now know enough to be certain that this is no “modest” proposal, no “polite” request for consultation but rather the commencement of a long road to co-sovereignty. Black sovereignty academics cite approvingly the Declaration of Indigenous Rights (which Australia has not ratified) as a guide to what flows from self-determination: it includes, but is far from limited to, maintaining their own separate legal systems, living by their own customs, and establishing their own education systems.

This is not the road to reconciliation but to separatism.

If you doubt the radical nature of black sovereignty theory embedded in Australian academe, and its dependence on entrenching a race-based constitutional voice, you need only read the latest blueprint laid down by Appleby. Why read this? Because the fingerprints of Appleby, along with Davis and other members of the Constitutional Expert Group, are all over the Albanese Amendment.

In their article Voice versus Rights: The First Nations Voice and the Australian Constitutional Legitimacy Crisis, published last month in the UNSW Law Journal, Appleby and two other academics from the ANU College of Law describe different types of black sovereignty, from political to spiritual. They acknowledge the challenges of reconciling competing claims of sovereignty. This leads them to ­describe what they call a “constitutional legitimacy crisis”.

To address this crisis, they say that “part of the potential strength of the voice model is its deferral, in the short term, of direct questions about sovereignty, and its setting up of a process by which the relationship of settler and Indigenous sovereignties may instead be worked out over time.”

Viewed this way, the voice is the single most important mechanism for negotiating the rights of competing sovereignties over time. It is designed to entrench and negotiate a form of co-governance while simultaneously allowing the voice to continue to be disguised as a “modest proposal”. Instead, the reconciliation project is, as the ABC’s Indigenous affairs reporter Bridget Brennan said on Insiders last year, about transferring power. The voice, she said, needs to be “feared and revered”.

Once you understand the core purpose of the voice is about power and sovereignty, it becomes obvious why the voice, as drafted in the Albanese Amendment, is so radical in its language and why all attempts to adopt moderate or mid-course options have been eschewed. It also explains why the last thing voice activists and the Albanese government want is a full and frank debate about the details of this body, or about the next stage of securing sovereignty.

For example, it is integral to claims of black sovereignty that the voice has constitutional power to comment on all matters “relating to” Indigenous persons, not, as we were promised, matters “relating only”, or even “primarily”, to Indigenous persons, let alone to laws proposed to be passed under the “race power” contained in the Constitution.

Any such limits would not allow the kind of sweeping co-governance that Indigenous sovereignty activists seek. The pursuit of black sovereignty also explains why the voice is not merely a voice to parliament, as we were once also promised, but a voice to the executive government as well. Likewise, black sovereignty explains why the drafters of the proposed voice wording have resisted the inclusion of any protective or limiting language which would ensure the non-justiciability we were once promised. Leverage through the courts is a critical aid to extracting the ability to negotiate competing claims of sovereignty.

This objective of co-governance also explains why the voice has to be permanently enshrined in the Constitution, not time-limited or linked to the achievement of objectives of removing disadvantage. The voice is not intended to be merely a special measure intended to last as long as disadvantage lasts. The voice is the critical constitutional machinery to demand and negotiate permanent joint sovereignty.

Thorpe is the worst nightmare for the Yes proponents. Her departure blows a hole the size of Uluru right through claims from Yes advocates that the voice is a modest matter of polite manners. Her ­departure encourages us to dig deeper and, in so doing, better understand that black sovereignty sits at the heart of the voice proposal. This is not about reconciliation. This is separatism, pure and simple, and to be writ large in law.

The “First Nations” ceded sovereignty when they couldn’t defend those “Nations.”

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 11:02 am

Bar Beach Swimmersays:
February 11, 2023 at 10:30 am
***who would be paying***

who would NOT be paying

It works both ways, Scotland out of the UK would NOT have the money to meet all such entitlements. Scotland would be liable to pay, but lack the means to pay.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 11, 2023 11:03 am

Hey flyingduk, are you the same anaesthetist cooker who got arrested in the ACT for hitting a traffic controller with your car?

I’m just hoping against hope that my Pell-esque exonneration by the courts does not mean my Cookerpedia entry is taken down. Its a *ripper* piece of creative writing!

https://cookerpedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Paix

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
February 11, 2023 11:03 am

The world’s governments must carefully examine Zelenskyy’s demands to ensure that the war does not escalate into WWIII.

WWIII started when the U.S. blew up the NS1 & 2 pipelines…

This has set the precedent as to what tactics they are willing to use to achieve victory, nothing is off the table.

Old alliances are breaking, new ones will form.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we see delivery of nuclear weapons to Ukraine by the end of this year.

As the war swings more into Russia’s favour, nothing will be off the table for the U.S./NATO.

m0nty
m0nty
February 11, 2023 11:06 am

It’s a treat and a pleasure to see a hero of the cooker movement posting on the Cat.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
February 11, 2023 11:07 am

*THEY*ARE*GOING*TO*STEAL*ALL*YOUR*SUPER*

Agree with this whole heartedly.

The government will seize super the bail itself out of debt and to keep the welfare train going..

Your retirement is cancelled.

Ask the average person if they would give up their super for an extra 12-15% in their pay.
Everyone know what they would prefer…

johanna
johanna
February 11, 2023 11:08 am

min

Bodies corporate do tend to attract the bullies and busybodies among us. So sorry to hear that you are on the receiving end of onesuch.

Defamation law is for the rich, generally speaking. So, unless you can find a pro bono lawyer I wouldn’t advise going down that track.

OTOH, in some jurisdictions there are ‘elder abuse’ laws about coercing or tricking older people into parting with their hard-earned, not to mention harassing people who try to prevent it. Might be worth investigating.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 11:10 am

m0nty=fa

It is hilarious that you bring up your shattered reputations, as if that confers any sort of gravitas.

Your reputation will never be shattered. Anyone who could fail Economics 1 will never have a reputation to shatter, nor will you ever have gravitas.

Stick to donuts and fantasy games.

Crossie
Crossie
February 11, 2023 11:10 am

calli says:
February 11, 2023 at 10:45 am
In other news, summer has arrived at last – too hot to garden. Just pulled out a massive clump of x amaryllacrinums but too knackered to divide them.

It will have to wait until evening. That way I won’t get sunstroke, but can provide sustenance for the mozzies.

I have watered the veggie patch and lopped off some overhanging branches from the tibouchina. I’ll cut up the branches and put them into the green bin later today. I needed a lot of cold mineral water after that.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2023 11:11 am

Clarkson’s Farm Season 2 aired today(February 10) with eager fans binge-watching the Amazon Prime show from the crack of dawn.

The Left is still furiously trying to cancel him, but their ammo just bounces off his thick skin.

Jeremy Clarkson’s farm shop reopens after Meghan scandal as visitor numbers take a big hit (10 Feb)
Jeremy Clarkson drives off in rage as he abandons Diddly Squat restaurant opening (10 Feb)
Jeremy Clarkson looks rough as he finally returns to work after Meghan Markle apology (9 Feb)

All from the Express this morning. How dare he insult the Left’s sparkly saint!

Real Deal
Real Deal
February 11, 2023 11:11 am

Old Ozzie

I immediately started watching after speaking to Elder Daughter, and I am up to Episode 3 & agree with statement above “How long have we been waiting for this. Probably the best program on TV ever. The man is a genius.”

OO, I dont usually watch any tele at all. But on hols this week I have watched all of season 1 of Clarkson’s Farm with some of my adult family. For someone who doesn’t laugh much these days, I have laughed out loud and loved the show. Whatever people think of Jeremy, he is a compelling and entertaining host. Having livec rurally for some years and raised a number of poddy lambs it brings back happy memories.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2023 11:11 am

Kenny and Albrechtsen in this week’s Paywallian. They both can’t be right. You’d have to be pretty sure of yourself to go up against Albrechtsen IMO.

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2023 11:16 am

The “First Nations” ceded sovereignty when they couldn’t defend those “Nations.”

That will end up being decided by the High Court.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2023 11:16 am

m0ntysays:
February 11, 2023 at 10:55 am
Hey flyingduk, are you the same anaesthetist cooker who got arrested in the ACT for hitting a traffic controller with your car?

He would be the person who proved, to the complete satisfaction of the Beak, that three members of the AFP colluded to manufacture false evidence against him.

I am old enough to remember when the sensible left (not its fascist modern version) got quite upset about the police colluding to convict the innocent. Are you supporting fascist police verballing?

Every day, in every way, you demonstrate your infatuation with actual, exiting, fascism. Watch out for stray Ante=fa members in the street.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2023 11:18 am

Anyone who could fail Economics 1 will never have a reputation to shatter, nor will you ever have gravitas.

It is a long way back from that. Better just to enrol in a BA or J School from the get go.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 11, 2023 11:18 am

That will end up being decided by the High Court.

From memory, didn’t the Mabo judgement have words to say about “sovereignty?”

Johnny Rotten
February 11, 2023 11:19 am

After a tiring day, a commuter settled down in his seat and closed his eyes. As the train rolled out of the station, a woman that was sitting next to him pulled out her phone. When she pulled out her phone, she started talking to someone in a loud voice “Hi sweetheart, it’s me, I’m on the train right now”; “Yes, I know I’m late but it was because I had a long meeting”; “No honey, not the one with that Kevin from the accounting office. It was with my boss”; “No sweetheart, of course you’re the only one in my life. I wouldn’t cheat on a handsome man like you!”. Fifteen minutes later, she was still talking loudly on her phone. When the man sitting next to her finally had enough, he leaned over and said into the phone: “Hey, hang up the phone and come back to bed!”

rickw
rickw
February 11, 2023 11:20 am

Hey flyingduk, are you the same anaesthetist cooker who got arrested in the ACT for hitting a traffic controller with your car?

Munty you’re phenomenally stupid, you never miss an opportunity to reinforce this.

Johnny Rotten
February 11, 2023 11:21 am

You can tell alot about a fellow’s character by his way of eating jellybeans.

– Ronald Reagan

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 11, 2023 11:23 am

Mr Thompson told The Weekend Australian that Mr Drumgold instructed him not to seek development approval for the works on either property because the ­approvals “would take too long”. He said that Mr Drumgold’s refusal to pay the balance owing for his work was “a kick in the guts”.

#1. It’s Thompson’s word against Shano’s.
Since Thompson says he is okay with doing dodgy work, why would anyone take him at his word?
#2. He’s got Buckleys of ever getting that to Court, so why do work for Barristers unless it’s Cash up front?
#3. The Australian is spending a lot of time and money going after Drumgold.

rickw
rickw
February 11, 2023 11:23 am

The government will seize super the bail itself out of debt and to keep the welfare train going..

Your retirement is cancelled.

Another factor feeding into my exit plans.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2023 11:26 am

Thanks for setting out your logic Groogs. Alas,we can’t give marks for showing your working out.

Johnny Rotten
February 11, 2023 11:26 am

NATO is Already in Ukraine

From Armstrong Economics –

COMMENT: I want to apologize. I did not believe you that the West had been the aggressor. It turns out, NATO has troops already there because Ukraine has lost so many men. You were right. NATO troops are there and will be operating the tanks and aircraft. This is already world war III which has been undeclared. I yield to your sources.

Sincerely

PD

REPLY: I am against war. I know the objectives and the reasoning. This is not a conspiracy theory. Besides being asked to invest $10 billion back in 1999 to seize control of Russia, I have even been asked for advice on redesigning the monetary system after Bretton Woods II. Quite frankly, there is nothing I can do. These people have already made up their minds and they pat themselves on their backs for taking down Russia will save the planet.

NATO troops are already there. They pretend to be mercenaries. I am fully aware of your Austrian colonel Markus Reisner, who bluntly told a journalist, that NATO troops will run the tanks. He explained what everyone has already known. He admitted that “we don’t need to send NATO soldiers to Ukraine, I just take off my uniform and sign a contract with a private security company and I am going to Ukraine as I am no longer a member of the Austrian armed forces but a mercenary.”

So-called “foreign mercenaries” have been there fighting in Ukraine from the start. I know two French who returned disgusted about the war crimes and theft of equipment that the Ukrainians are carrying out. Another fact is that where there have been NATO “advisers” killed in action, they have been beheaded and their hands chopped off so the Russians have no proof that NATO has been in Ukraine.

Look, this war could end in one week. All they have to do is comply with the Minsk Agreement. The West WANTS this war – they NEED IT! People who think the government would never lie are beyond hope and probably wear a mask when they sleep at night – just in case. If you do not want to believe that, that’s your problem. Perhaps you will finally wake up when your future is totally gone. And they probably believe all inflation is Putin’s fault as well.

I am glad you kept an open mind. QUESTION everything and perhaps you will arrive at the truth, which is always the first casualty in war. NEVER believe what any government says. Just like Ukraine, they have been hiding their losses.

NATO is playing a very dangerous game. They are pushing this to the limit and are praying for Russia to attack anywhere outside of Ukraine so they can then claim it was an unprovoked attack – another fake Day that will live in Infamy!

They are looking to force Russia to throw up its hands and declare war on NATO to save its own people, culture, and history. These Neocons NEVER even weight the risks because they are so arrogant, they assume they will win and never have Plan B.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/nato-is-already-in-ukraine/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Cassie of Sydney
February 11, 2023 11:28 am

“No doctor says you have five hours to live. That’s ridiculous. If you believe that, you’re gullible enough to have voted for Clive.”

I remember Anthony Albanese promising Australians that by voting for him and his party in last May’s election, Australian families would save roughly $275 annually on energy bills.

I didn’t believe that because I’m not that gullible. But many were. Were you one of those gullible voters who voted for Albanese?

Zipster
February 11, 2023 11:31 am

US shoots down unknown ‘high-altitude object’ over Alaska, White House says

The White House said Friday that an unknown “high-altitude object” had been shot down over the waters off Alaska.

President Joe Biden ordered the shootdown, spokesman John Kirby said, adding that the origin of the object has yet to be determined.

Responding to reporters’ shouted questions about the shootdown Friday afternoon outside the White House, Biden called the operation a “success.”

It comes just days after the U.S. shot down a Chinese surveillance balloon last Saturday, following a political firestorm.

Kirby said the object was about the size of a small car and was at flying about 40,000 feet.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 11, 2023 11:31 am

Traffic Controllers are prone to getting hit by cars.
Last years toll [to Easter] was 4 dead, 8 hospitalised.

There’s a saying on Qld Building sites:

If you wanna know where the builder went wrong, what he shoulda done, which contractors can’t pay their subbies, etc., ask a Dogman.
If you can’t find a Dogman, ask a Traffic Controller.

rickw
rickw
February 11, 2023 11:32 am

It is hilarious that you bring up your shattered reputations, as if that confers any sort of gravitas.

My reputation is shattered in Australia, the country is full of Fascist Mongs who get queasy at the idea that government could be totally wrong. Outside of Australia, not so much!

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2023 11:32 am

From memory, didn’t the Mabo judgement have words to say about “sovereignty?”

A curate’s egg…rejected indigenous sovereignty but opened the way to self-government.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 11, 2023 11:33 am

Science explains what we already knew, vegans are angry nutters.

Crit Rev Food Sci Nutr . 2021;61(4):622-635. doi: 10.1080/10408398.2020.1741505. Epub 2020 Apr 20. Meat and mental health: a systematic review of meat abstention and depression, anxiety, and related phenomena. Urska Dobersek 1, Gabrielle Wy 2, Joshua Adkins 1, Sydney Altmeyer 1, Kaitlin Krout 1, Carl J Lavie 3, Edward Archer 4
PMID: 32308009 DOI: 10.1080/10408398.2020.1741505

Conclusion: Studies examining the relation between the consumption or avoidance of meat and psychological health varied substantially in methodologic rigor, validity of interpretation, and confidence in results. The majority of studies, and especially the higher quality studies, showed that those who avoided meat consumption had significantly higher rates or risk of depression, anxiety, and/or self-harm behaviors.

calli
calli
February 11, 2023 11:33 am

No Development Approval does not equal dodgy work. Thompson put himself in a no-win situation.

At that moment, when instructed by his customer (someone, incidentally, in a very high position in legal circles) to proceed without approval, he should have run a mile.

The customer, having his contractor by the short and curlies, then proceeded to find faults with the work and withhold payment. Whether these faults are real or not is moot. Having rectified the work, final payment should have been made to the contractor. It was not. This is a pretty typical situation when dealing with dodgy customers, wherever they exist in the pecking order.

As I said earlier, the moment a DA was dispensed with is when I would have run a mile. And Drumgold has no excuse – he knows when one is required and when it is not. Most people do. A simple google to Council, or even a phone call would do it.

rickw
rickw
February 11, 2023 11:35 am

“No” he replied. “I assume it just would have been even worse if I hadn’t been jabbed.”

You know you’re in a cult when….

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 11, 2023 11:36 am

The exception might be Family Court barristers.
I’ve heard they’re held in exceptionally low regard by the rest of the profession.
Was that your experience, Humpty?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 11, 2023 11:36 am

OK, he’s out then!

For me, the interesting question is why was Sofranoff brought in in the first place? A hard arsed jurist, with unlimited scope and the powers of a Royal Commission – appointed by an ALP mini-government.

Running things through the political filter, I surmise that Team ALP has a high degree of confidence that the inquiry will follow a line of political interference in Drumgold’s prosecution of Lehrmann, leading back to Reynolds/Morrison – and potentially Peter Dutton.

rickw
rickw
February 11, 2023 11:39 am
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