Open Thread – Tues 14 Feb 2023


Jacob Blessing the Sons of Joseph, Rembrandt, 1656


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Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
February 14, 2023 2:19 pm

Albanese grilled over governmentโ€™s response to cost of living crisis in Question Time

Response? Cause versus effect.
To what extent did the government cause the cost of living crisis?

* Increasing requirements on landowners and housing landlords, which are costs passed on to tenants.
* Locking up land while not putting any 2-storey minimums on land that is released.
* Approving huge numbers of work visas to people who will work for less entering the job market.
* Absurd overreach in covid response policy that put people out of work and reduced the savings of most businesses and people.
* Provoking the war in Ukraine starting in 2014 and then escalating the war instead of bargaining.
* A couple of natural disasters such as floods down south that have raised food prices, can’t completely blame the government for that, except maybe tangentially due to housing approvals on floodplains but still a case of “buyer beware” there.
Any more?

Dot
Dot
February 14, 2023 2:21 pm

My sister got me onto a really woeful podcast.

“Abortion was made illegal in ‘Murica to see the Proddies outbreed da Micks”

It’s complete gabrage.

The host’s name is Chelsey McDouble Barrel Weber Smith.

Complete left wing garbage, she’s an intersectional queer (that is, a communist).

“American Hysteria is a podcast exploring the fantastical thinking and irrational fears of Americans through the lens of moral panics, urban legends, and conspiracy theories, how they shape our psychology and culture, and why we end up believing them. Poet-turned-podcaster Chelsey Weber-Smith examines the sometimes hilarious, sometimes horrifying stories of historical and modern American freak-outs, and the real social issues they act to cover up. An in-depth alternative history, the show also analyzes how issues of race, gender, sexuality, and class have informed our beliefs from the Puritans to the present. Chelsey also shares their personal journey from a wild believer to a flexible skeptic.”

Do I smell the foul and rank stench of “alternative facts”, Ma’am (or Sir)?

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
February 14, 2023 2:21 pm

I listen to all the complaints about interest rates and have to wonder why I never complained when paying off domestic and commercial mortgages that NEVER had interest rates under 12%.
I lived in Canada in the 70’s and early 80’s and saw mortgage rates of 17% and second and third mortgages with rates over 20%.
So I ask why all the drama with 6% interest?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 14, 2023 2:21 pm

Vicki,
Thanks for the comments by Leake.

Australia has made it easy for the Covid and Vax narrative to win. Even now many just happy to line up for the next jab without question.

I saw a comment on Twitter that suggested mainstream media giving coverage to McCullough and Kory would be like giving coverage to flat earthers.

Most simply not bothered or don’t want to look into things more deeply.

Jorge
Jorge
February 14, 2023 2:24 pm

Philip Lowe may lack something in the diversity box when it comes to work experience.

Surely a bigger problem is that every one of the Treasury and Finance boffins absorbed the same old undergraduate saws taught here in Australian universities then departed for Chicago or the equivalent. They returned and were hired as bright young Keynesian kinks I.e. dedicated followers of the economic fashion.

Zipster
Zipster
February 14, 2023 2:25 pm

Tucker Carlson: This is chaos

Fox News host Tucker Carlson reacts to leaders not worrying about the recently downed foreign objects or the water supply on ‘Tucker Carlson Tonight.’ #FoxNews #Tucker

Roger
Roger
February 14, 2023 2:26 pm

…the most significant revolt of religious groups to a government proposal in recent history.

As much as they have a legitimate argument in what is supposedly a pluralist society, sooner rather than later faith leaders had better understand that he who pays the piper calls the tune. If religious schools are going to receive public funds, they are going to be compelled to subscribe to public values, which are increasingly antagonistic to religious values. This “revolt” may achieve a delay in that process, but I doubt it will halt it. In which case, to Christian leaders in particular, I ask, what are your plans?

Cassie of Sydney
February 14, 2023 2:26 pm

“Jeanette Jennings, 56, opens up about Jazzโ€™s childhood on I Am Jazz
Jazz, who was assigned male at birth, transitioned to female in kindergarten”

Firstly, nobody’s sex is “assigned”. Sex is noted and recorded.

Secondly, methinks Mrs Jennings has a severe case of Munchausen syndrome by proxy .

Dot
Dot
February 14, 2023 2:26 pm

So I ask why all the drama with 6% interest?

Because Lowe has signaled retail mortgage rates of 8-9% are not off the cards AND there are 800,000 or so interest-only loans taken on at 3% or less that will reset this year to the prevailing market rates and principal & interest.

Dot
Dot
February 14, 2023 2:32 pm

Got it slightly wrong.

“Abortion wasn’t a sin until the 1800s”

Complete bull shyte.

Diogenes
Diogenes
February 14, 2023 2:33 pm

So I ask why all the drama with 6% interest?

18% on 52k mortgage = 9.5k
6% on 850k mortgage = 51k

We paid 63k for our first house in Parramatta in 1984. The units that were built on it later go for 900k each.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
February 14, 2023 2:35 pm

The one thing you can take to the bank: when โ€œprogressivesโ€ lie and cheat their way into political power, they are absolutely, cluelessly incompetent.

Anthony Albanese to a T

Vicki
Vicki
February 14, 2023 2:36 pm

I lived in Canada in the 70โ€™s and early 80โ€™s and saw mortgage rates of 17% and second and third mortgages with rates over 20%.
So I ask why all the drama with 6% interest?

Similar in Oz at the time. I can recall our home mortgage rates between 14-16%. Can recall property investment loans well over that figure. But the โ€œbiggyโ€ was our business overdraft rate of 22%! But we somehow managed – paid off our home and ran a successful business. Eventually paid off the property loans too.

So, why the drama over 6% interest? Because those paying it have no recall of those times – being mostly โ€œkiddiesโ€at the time. History of finance not โ€œtheir thingโ€.

Dot
Dot
February 14, 2023 2:40 pm

So, why the drama over 6% interest? Because those paying it have no recall of those times โ€“ being mostly โ€œkiddiesโ€at the time. History of finance not โ€œtheir thingโ€.

You can’t refinance for 150 years.

Because Lowe has signaled retail mortgage rates of 8-9% are not off the cards AND there are 800,000 or so interest-only loans taken on at 3% or less that will reset this year to the prevailing market rates and principal & interest.

Financial maths, I put it to you, is their putative weakness.

Zipster
Zipster
February 14, 2023 2:41 pm

The decommissioning of the cameras comes after an audit of every Australian government department found as many as 1000 cameras and other devices made by Chinese Communist Party-linked companies Hikvision and Dahua had been installed at government sites.

they need to audit cheap ccp made gigabit & 10gig ethernet adapters

bespoke
bespoke
February 14, 2023 2:41 pm
C.L.
C.L.
February 14, 2023 2:41 pm
Rabz
February 14, 2023 2:42 pm

So I ask why all the drama with 6% interest?

Because of the large numbers of people mortgaged to the hilt, who thanks to decreased property values are now looking at significantly higher repayments (especially if coming off a lower fixed rate any time soon) while enjoying a state of “negative equity”.

Thank goodness I’ve almost halved my mortgage in the last five years and have a huge amount in my redraw.

C.L.
C.L.
February 14, 2023 2:49 pm

If religious schools are going to receive public funds, they are going to be compelled to subscribe to public values, which are increasingly antagonistic to religious values.

Yes and no, Roger. I agree they’ve become too addicted to largesse and have already walked half way down the secular garden path to fetch another bag of money without being forced. However, even public servants have legally enforced rights to religious conscience and custom. If taken all the way to the High Court, it’s doubtful the Commonwealth would be held to be empowered to control the religious identity of religious schools based on the investment of public monies. I’m sure there’s a Section 51 angle in there too somewhere.

Zipster
Zipster
February 14, 2023 2:52 pm

โ€œJeanette Jennings, 56, opens up about Jazzโ€™s childhood on I Am Jazz
Jazz, who was assigned male at birth, transitioned to female in kindergarten

universal suffrage needs a rethink

Roger
Roger
February 14, 2023 2:53 pm

If taken all the way to the High Court, itโ€™s doubtful the Commonwealth would be held to be empowered to control the religious identity of religious schools based on the investment of public monies. Iโ€™m sure thereโ€™s a Section 51 angle in there too somewhere.

In respect of that, it’s worth noting that neither the Constutition nor the HC guarantees freedom of religion.

Roger
Roger
February 14, 2023 2:55 pm

Constitution

I can spell, but my typing leaves seomthing to be desired as I get older.

C.L.
C.L.
February 14, 2023 2:56 pm

Cat sea dogs, why is it so difficult to re-float this beauty?

Vicki
Vicki
February 14, 2023 2:59 pm

I can spell, but my typing leaves seomthing to be desired as I get older.

Itโ€™s a big club!

C.L.
C.L.
February 14, 2023 2:59 pm

In respect of that, itโ€™s worth noting that neither the Constutition nor the HC guarantees freedom of religion.

That’s where the external affairs argumentation comes in.

Article 18 of the ICCPR:

1. Everyone shall have the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion. This right shall include freedom to have or to adopt a religion or belief of his choice, and freedom, either individually or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in worship, observance, practice and teaching.

2. No one shall be subject to coercion which would impair his freedom to have or to adopt a religion or belief of his choice.

3. Freedom to manifest one’s religion or beliefs may be subject only to such limitations as are prescribed by law and are necessary to protect public safety, order, health, or morals or the fundamental rights and freedoms of others.

4. The States Parties to the present Covenant undertake to have respect for the liberty of parents and, when applicable, legal guardians to ensure the religious and moral education of their children in conformity with their own convictions.

Roger
Roger
February 14, 2023 3:12 pm

Thatโ€™s where the external affairs argumentation comes in.

Article 18 of the ICCPR

Unfortunately that’s moot in the Australian context, where international treaties and covenants are non-binding domestically unless their content is legislated for locally.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 14, 2023 3:12 pm

Rabz at 2:42 – yep, forget the โ€œin my day โ€œ bullshit and look at income multiples. Particularly when you are paying 30%+ marginal tax on AWE.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 14, 2023 3:12 pm

C.L.says:
February 14, 2023 at 2:41 pm
A Stan Grant poem at Quadrantโ€ฆ

Genius:

https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2023/02/an-epistle-to-stan-grant/

The series of photos of the progressive “endarkening” of sTan makes the poem better.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 14, 2023 3:16 pm

You canโ€™t refinance for 150 years.

/Intergenerational loans intensifies….
https://www.fourwealthmanagement.co.uk/news/what-are-the-advantages-of-intergenerational-mortgages/

I have seen proposals to make home loans run more than 30+ years to make them more “affordable”. You cant pay your house off, but your kids might.

Roger
Roger
February 14, 2023 3:17 pm

Itโ€™s a big club!

In my defence, my keyboard is clunky and sometimes recalcitrant.

A bit like me, really ๐Ÿ˜€

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 14, 2023 3:17 pm

The best โ€œendarkeningโ€ was Zelig from that weirdo Woody.

duncanm
duncanm
February 14, 2023 3:23 pm

Big_Nambassays:
February 14, 2023 at 2:21 pm
I listen to all the complaints about interest rates and have to wonder why I never complained when paying off domestic and commercial mortgages that NEVER had interest rates under 12%.
I lived in Canada in the 70โ€™s and early 80โ€™s and saw mortgage rates of 17% and second and third mortgages with rates over 20%.
So I ask why all the drama with 6% interest?

because of this:
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Home prices to wages ratio has gone up 3.5x since the 80’s. Your 20% is only 5.7% today.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 14, 2023 3:25 pm

I have seen proposals to make home loans run more than 30+ years to make them more โ€œaffordableโ€. You cant pay your house off, but your kids might.

Razey might have that problem in Japan. In reality inter generational equity doesnโ€™t get much airplay. Niall Ferguson raises it here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01jms03/episodes/guide

Robert Sewell
February 14, 2023 3:28 pm

MOVING ONWARD โ€“ The State of New California Sends Delegates to Washington D.C.
The State of New California is gearing up for statehood.

This idea seemed strange until it was mentioned that it is following precedent. The state of West Virginia was formed during the Civil War when citizens of the new state didnโ€™t agree with the unconstitutional actions of the state of Virginia which seceded and formed a new country.

Bruce in WA
February 14, 2023 3:28 pm

The hyperbole … and the arrogance … is simply breathtaking.

Once again, WA leads the way in punishing the blameless and removing individual liberties under the false guise of ‘safety’.

Premier Mark McGowan outlaws high-powered rifles after secret bunker gun cache find

High-powered rifles capable of piercing armoured plating and firing over significant ranges will be outlawed in WA from July 1.

Premier Mark McGowan announced his governmentโ€™s latest crackdown on firearm ownership on Tuesday, saying the weapons being targeted by the new ban were only appropriate for war zones like Ukraine.

โ€œThese rifles can fire for kilometres. They can use armour piercing rounds. The bullets themselves can go through vehicles, even armoured vehicles,โ€ Mr McGowan said.

โ€œAnd thereโ€™s no purpose, no need, no role for those sorts of guns in our community.โ€

The ban, an Australian first, covers 56 different guns and 19 calibres of ammunition.

WA Police are currently aware of 248 licensed firearms in WA that are set to become illegal under the new rules, all of which much be surrendered prior to the July 1 deadline.

The owners of those guns will be compensated at โ€œmarket valueโ€ in a buyback program that is expected to cost around $1.5 million in total.

Anyone that fails to hand in one of the targeted firearms will be followed up by police and have the weapon seized.

Police Minister Paul Papalia said the ban was being implemented at the request of WA Police and would not restrict the ability of professional shooters tasked with controlling populations of wild camels and horses, who he said used lower calibre weapons.

โ€œIn Western Australia, the desire to have a powerful weapon as an enthusiast is trumped by the safety of our police officers and the community,โ€ he said.

An ongoing national amnesty means anyone who owns an unregistered gun can hand the weapon in anonymously and face no penalty.

From July 1, Mr Papalia said police would actively seek to recover any of the 248 currently licensed weapons covered by the new ban that had not been surrendered.

He conceded the kinds of rifles being targeted had not previously been used against police officers but said that was not a strong enough reason not to act proactively.

โ€œThey need to be removed. Theyโ€™re a threat. You donโ€™t wait until the event happens, you donโ€™t wait until the tragedy occurs to act,โ€ Mr Papalia said.

WA Police acting Commissioner Kylie Whiteley said there had been an increase in the number of high-powered rifles legally owned across the State despite her agency โ€œon occasionโ€ challenging the decision to grant a license in the State Administrative Tribunal.

โ€œQuite frankly theyโ€™re not safe to be to be in the community and theyโ€™re not safe for police officers to have to have that risk of having to confront them,โ€ Ms Whiteley said.

Ms Whitely later told talkback radio there were โ€œongoing liaisonโ€ with shooting organisations, but police had been steadfast on their attitude towards high-calibre weapons.

โ€œIt is very clear the position that we have and always have had and those firearms are consequently part of the ban,โ€ she said.

The ban follows the announcement last week of the McGowan Governmentโ€™s plans to introduce mandatory mental health checks for gun owners – another Australian first.

WA Police Union acting president Paul Gale welcomed the push to remove high-powered weapons from the hands of ordinary West Australians.

โ€œFor the safety of themselves and the community, police officers need to have an โ€˜edgeโ€™ over the type of firearms that they may encounter during their job,โ€ Mr Gale said.

โ€œThe best way to achieve that edge is to tightly regulate the private ownership of firearms so that police officers donโ€™t need the very high-powered variety for general duties.

โ€œOtherwise, youโ€™ll get a US-style outcome where some general police officers need to patrol around with AR-15s in armoured vehicles just to keep a lid on things.โ€

Nineteen different calibres? What will they be? My guess would be anything above a bog standard 30.06

DavidH
DavidH
February 14, 2023 3:30 pm

@Top Ender

which of the Top Gear โ€œtravel seriesโ€ is best to chase?

The ones I recall particularly enjoying were Botswana, Mongolia and Vietnam … and the one where they built the bridge that had a … umm … lean on it.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

โ€œThese rifles can fire for kilometres. They can use armour piercing rounds. The bullets themselves can go through vehicles, even armoured vehicles,โ€ Mr McGowan said.

That’s some very precise data you got there Mr. McGowan.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 14, 2023 3:34 pm

Lisa Wilkinson hires Sue Chrysanthou SC to defend her reporting against Bruce Lehrmann

By Yoni Bashan
Margin Call Editor
@yoni_bashan
2:58PM February 14, 2023

Lisa Wilkinson has sensationally dumped her lawyers at Network Ten and hired a fresh legal team to defend her reporting as she faces defamation action brought by former political staffer Bruce Lehrmann.

Sydneyโ€™s legal fraternity was abuzz with rumours on Monday that Wilkinson had severed ties with Tenโ€™s lawyers at Thomson Geer; these were confirmed on Tuesday when documents filed with the Federal Court confirmed the television journalist had engaged a new team of solicitors and barrister Sue Chrysanthou, SC.

Chrysanthouโ€™s recent victories have included substantial defamation payouts for former NSW deputy premier John Barilaro and mining investor Tolga Kumova, but also former columnist Clementine Ford in her case against The Sydney Morning Herald and Age Newspapers, and Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young, who was awarded $120,000 in compensation against former senator David Leyonhjelm.
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Federal Court documents indicate that Wilkinson will be represented by Gillis Delaney Lawyers and its partner, Anthony Jefferies, with the costs apparently to be funded by Wilkinson herself.

The switch in tactics is understood to have blindsided Tenโ€™s legal team, with lawyers at Thomson Geer lodging papers on Monday afternoon stating they would be representing Wilkinson. Less than 24 hours later fresh papers had been served stating the arrangement had been terminated.

As to why Wilkinson would proceed down this path is open to interpretation. The facts suggest a divergence of interest with Tenโ€™s lawyers and substantial doubts that they will prosecute Wilkinsonโ€™s arguments in her best interests, rather than those of the network.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
February 14, 2023 3:35 pm

I have seen proposals to make home loans run more than 30+ years to make them more โ€œaffordableโ€. You cant pay your house off, but your kids might.

I met a guy in the late 1980s from Bonn. He told me he was expected to take over the family’s house mortgage when his father retired. I thought the notion of passing property debt down through the generations was absurd and ridiculous. But here we are in a country with more land than we can fly over but the cost of real estate is through the roof. Multi-gen debt does not seem so far-fetched these days.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 14, 2023 3:38 pm

Hmmm, another twist in the Brittany saga. The Paywallian reporting Mrs Pirate Pete dumped Channel 10 lawyers for her own. Things are getting interesting now.

C.L.
C.L.
February 14, 2023 3:39 pm

โ€œAnd thereโ€™s no purpose, no need, no role for those sorts of guns in our community.โ€

Statistically, there’s no need for Glocks either but Australian police adopted them because they watch
a lot of American television.

—————

Roger, you’re right re ICCPR. Adopted but left on the legislative shelf after ratification.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 14, 2023 3:45 pm

Never scroll up.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 14, 2023 3:49 pm

The Paywallian reporting Mrs Pirate Pete dumped Channel 10 lawyers for her own.

Fight, you bastards, fight! I hate peace!

Crossie
Crossie
February 14, 2023 3:50 pm

johanna says:
February 14, 2023 at 11:35 am
To continue my points above, how can we compare our society to one where at least one in three children died before age five?

And this wasn’t all that long ago. Both my grandmothers had only two children survive from six births each however my mother only lost one baby out of five. My siblings and I had no such heartaches. My family’s example tracks medical progress over three generations.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 14, 2023 3:52 pm

Fair Shake at 3:35 – in Australia it will be complicated by the interaction with superannuation. Up till now you took a lump sum, went on a European river cruise and bought a caravan. Increasingly you will be paying off the home loan. Expect the tax treatment of both to come under scrutiny.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 14, 2023 3:55 pm

He conceded the kinds of rifles being targeted had not previously been used against police officers but said that was not a strong enough reason not to act proactively.

โ€œThey need to be removed. Theyโ€™re a threat. You donโ€™t wait until the event happens, you donโ€™t wait until the tragedy occurs to act,โ€ Mr Papalia said.

Mr Papalia is obviously quite right to use worst case assumptions about the feckless voteherd.
Now, next up: mandatory plastic cutlery and safety scissorsโ€ฆ

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 14, 2023 3:57 pm

Sneakers knows the value of a good scare campaign.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Wanker status confirmed:

Agriculture minister Murray Watt says the live sheep export industry has lost its social licence.

To cancel the “social licence” Minister Watt will first have to obtain the original issued social licence, then using a big red stamp, mark that licence “Cancelled”.

Will Minister Watt resign from parliament when the polls indicate the Anal govt has lost its social licence?

Johnny Rotten
February 14, 2023 4:04 pm

When her husband passed away, the wife put the usual death notice in the newspaper, but added that he had died of gonorrhea. Once the daily newspapers had been delivered, a good friend of the family phoned and complained bitterly “You know very well that he died of diarrhea, not gonorrhea”. Replied the widow “Yes, I know that he died of diarrhea, but I thought it would be better for posterity to remember him as a great lover rather than the big shit that he really was”.

Johnny Rotten
February 14, 2023 4:06 pm

Everyone should be respected as an individual, but no one idolized.

– Albert Einstein

Wally Dalรญ
Wally Dalรญ
February 14, 2023 4:07 pm

Roger-
See this from Sal? “Social licence” declaration dissected. It’s a tool of the powerful, used against the common man.

Agriculture minister Murray Watt says the live sheep export industry has lost its social licence.

To cancel the โ€œsocial licenceโ€ Minister Watt will first have to obtain the original issued social licence, then using a big red stamp, mark that licence โ€œCancelledโ€.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 14, 2023 4:08 pm

ALPBC MD in Senate Estimates for his six monthly sh1t sandwich.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 14, 2023 4:09 pm

We paid $53,000 for our first house in 1983. That was approximately our combined annual income at the time as two fairly junior professionals. As a result we managed with 18% interest rates.

The exact same house sold for $1.55 m in 2021 – albeit with what seems to be a much nicer kitchen and bathroom.

That is the housing interest rate problem in a nutshell.

Johnny Rotten
February 14, 2023 4:09 pm

Mr Papalia is obviously quite right to use worst case assumptions about the feckless voteherd.
Now, next up: mandatory plastic cutlery and safety scissorsโ€ฆ

So when flying, ‘Cattle Class’ get plastic cutlery with their meal whereas First Class and Business Class get stainless steel cutlery. So Terrorists only use ‘Cattle Class’?

Bruce in WA
February 14, 2023 4:11 pm

Here we go … the calibres banned from July …

Cassie of Sydney
February 14, 2023 4:14 pm

“Agriculture minister Murray Watt says the live sheep export industry has lost its social licence.”

If you want confirmation that this Sleazy government is the most far-left, the most progressive and the most woke in this country’s history, the above words confirm it. I’ll give Labor credit, they’re proud of who they are, they’re proud of their wokeness, and they aren’t losing any time implementing their far-left, extreme woke agendas.

Thanks Morrison.

Crossie
Crossie
February 14, 2023 4:16 pm

Forty-two suspected Chinese-made cameras have been stripped out of Defence sites across Australia, ยญincluding from highly sensitive ยญlocations such as the submarine base at HMAS Stirling, the Air Warfare Centre at RAAF Base Edinburgh, and the home of Australiaโ€™s Special Air Service Regiment, the Campbell Barracks.

Who in their right mind thought it was a good idea to install Chinese made electronic equipment of any sort anywhere near military locations? I would love to know who signed off on it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 14, 2023 4:18 pm

I expect Osama bin Laden probably travelled Business on FF points. His family did alright out of construction.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 14, 2023 4:21 pm

Who in their right mind thought it was a good idea to install Chinese made electronic equipment of any sort anywhere near military locations? I would love to know who signed off on it.

Be interesting to know if Defense uses Zoom. A large portion of the Zoom technical team is located in China.

Given what we know of Chinese practices it’d be interesting to know how much intelligence was gathered through the Covid lockdown period.

Dot
Dot
February 14, 2023 4:26 pm

Poor fella, my country.

My mother’s great uncles were NSW Ag Ministers, one eventually a viceroy and “Labor royalty”.

They were also wheat and sheep farmers.

The modern ALP is like a caricature of German and Dutch weirdos from a late 1980s sci fi movie.

How it represents anyone but the pen pushing fat old rich (but miraculously work shy and having no business acumen) alt lifestyle pasty weirdos trying to bang their mousy secretaries 30 years their junior is beyond me.

It really is the party of Jim Cairns. Even Gough would be dying on the inside, we know part of the reason why Keating is so devoured by spite and hatred is the likes of Swan, Albanese and even his own work shyness etc.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 14, 2023 4:27 pm

The Liars Ministers forAgriculture are always an affront to farmers (amongst others). Who could forget Laborโ€™s Idiot Son Joe Ludwig? It is a matter for conjecture whether this is done on purpose.

Dot
Dot
February 14, 2023 4:28 pm

I resisted for the longest time, to use Zoom, but eventually, I had no choice.

duncanm
duncanm
February 14, 2023 4:30 pm

My other comment is in mod.. but more on the gun bunker.

WA Police Minister Paul Papalia said the stateโ€™s current laws meant Letizia escaped any serious penalty.

โ€œThe Western Australian Police Force recently seized an arsenal of very high-powered firearms being incorrectly stored in a secret underground bunker, hidden beneath a storage unit in suburban Perth,โ€ he said.

โ€œUnbelievably, the worst offence this individual has allegedly committed is failing to apply to the local council for approval to build the bunker and underground shooting range.

So now the police are have the government make up new laws because they want to prosecute someone to cover their feelz.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
February 14, 2023 4:32 pm

โ€˜Canavan has no clue what heโ€™s talking aboutโ€™ with the National Reconstruction Fund
Industry Minister Ed Husic says it’s no surprise โ€œyet another Coalition person hasnโ€™t followed the detailsโ€ the Labor government announced…

Albo wants to Make Australia Great Again?

Classical revivalism takes a while but it catches eventually.

A bit strange it’s called a Reconstruction fund when it is funding cutting-edge quantum computing (and codebreaking?) technologies that have never existed before.

Dot
Dot
February 14, 2023 4:33 pm

How is this banned calibre nonsense going to work?

Will there be compensation?

What if you hand load?

It’s just capricious. Is it coming from a dickhead Police Comm. who should have NO power to regulate at all?

A Remington Ultra Magnum .300 will give you about two miles effective range. It can be shot further than you can shoot properly!

Ideally I will get 9 mm/ .22 LR pistol/carbines. I have a longbow now; I have so far turned down deer shooting invitations. Mein host uses a very hot 6.5 mm Creedoor, what a greedy pig! Just be normal and get a .223 and a .308!

My reasoning is if you are a good shot, you only need those two calibres ever and a shotgun, unless you’re a pro and need to knock over 300-500 pigs a day or only shoot deer or dogs, etc.

The WA “Labor” party is far removed from working men. It is a joke.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 14, 2023 4:34 pm

โ€œAnd thereโ€™s no purpose, no need, no role for those sorts of guns in our community.โ€

Which is to say that whereas you used to own things outright you must now be ready to justify to the government your right to own them. And if you disagree the government, which is able to foist laws and rules upon you – which you as a citizen have no such power with regards to them – prevails. They have armies of bureaucrats, battalions of lawyers, and financial resources as deep as ever citizens pockets combined.

But to many people McGowan’s words will seem innocuous enough. Everybody knows America is a bloodbath from coast to coast. We don’t want that!

Being required to justify yourself to the government all the time is an extremely insidious thing. Those stupid checking in things during the Covid Panic-a-palooza being a case in point. I heard people (again, entranced by the siren song of government) defending the preposterous rigmarole with the argument that no one doing the right thing would have anything to hide. Well, the Soviets certainly felt so. Was the only bit of injustice in the USSR was that the government were ‘the bad guys’?

Or is it that to be human we need to feel out of the gaze, to have our public life balanced with a private one, even things that we feel might seem a bit silly to other people. We speak indulgently of ‘guilty pleasures’ because they aren’t morally guilty but because they are the things we enjoy that our public persona (which must reconcile all sorts of social, political, and professional relationships) would scorn.

I did try asking some people if they really felt comfortable with the idea that at some point they are challenged on where they were and for what purpose on some day in the past they cannot recall. If, without any recollection of anything they were presented with the ‘evidence’ and they had to prove their innocence. It might have happened, it might have been a cock up, it might have been something innocent, or it could be an act of spite by someone with a gripe. That was what those check ins did, and as more and more private information is clocked up on each of us the accusations will get worse and the potential penalties more severe.

duncanm
duncanm
February 14, 2023 4:35 pm

I must say, that’s a very nice workshop and rifle test facility he made himself.
https://7news.com.au/news/crime/wa-police-uncover-secret-gun-bunker-at-perth-property-c-9746205

Dot
Dot
February 14, 2023 4:39 pm

Now also note Ukrainian historical territory also encompasses Poland, Belarus and Russia.

Unless all us white folk all become Romans and Germania again, this really isn’t a good idea.

I could pass for Romano British. DB as a Roman Senator?

Wait. I can hear something in the distance, coming in as lightning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gar6MONCKs

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 14, 2023 4:43 pm

A bizarre council blow up over a Banjo Patterson poem being recited at a dinner has prompted calls for NSW Opposition Leader Chris Minns step in and boot out an ALP councillor.

Veteran Independent councillor Paul Garrard, 71, was orating the 1892 classic โ€œThe Man from Ironbarkโ€ at the start of a dinner following an annual budget weekend planning session for Cumberland Council on Saturday February 11 when the incident took place.

Mr Garrard said he was honoured to be asked to recite a Banjo poem at the function because the event was being held at Windsor and the โ€œplace is full of Australian historyโ€.

But ALP councillor Mohamad Hussein allegedly made a scene, telling him to stop and continuing to swear and verbally abuse him in front of other councillors, staff and guests including women and children, telling him to sit down.

Mr Hussein said he couldnโ€™t comment on the incident, but his lawyer Mr Mohomed Abbas said the councillor โ€œdenied the allegationsโ€.

Mr Garrard, who recited a Banjo poem last year at the same function โ€” and is known for his recitations โ€” said he was shocked, and had never had anything happen like it previously when reading poems.

โ€œI was only into the second verse and there was a voice from behind me telling me to shut the f โ€ฆ up โ€“ f โ€ฆ sit down,โ€ he said.

โ€œI kept on the job and he cursed and cussed using every profanity I wouldnโ€™t use. including the โ€˜cโ€™ word.

โ€œThe whole event became disturbing. Importantly I finished the poem.

โ€œI just wonder whatโ€™s politically correct now?

โ€œBanjoโ€™s an Australian icon, heโ€™s on the $10 note and heโ€™s on our stamps.

โ€œThere used to be a time at dinner parties you would to be able to stand up and say these poems and quote Australiana.

โ€œIโ€™m proud of my Australiana.

โ€œYoung people donโ€™t know much about this.โ€

Fellow Independent councillor Steve Christou and Mr Garrard wrote to Mr Minns calling for him to sack Councillor Hussein for โ€œabusive and threateningโ€ behaviour.

In their letter to Mr Minns, they allege councillor Hussein continued โ€œscreamingโ€ at Mr Garrard and Mr Christou from across the table and invited them to go outside to fight.

โ€œTo say this behaviour was threatening and traumatising would be an understatement,โ€ Mr Christou said.

โ€œThe use of such language in a public place from an elected representative is completely unacceptable let alone in front of young children.

โ€œIn my sixteen years of public service, I have never witnessed such despicable behaviour from an elected representative.

โ€œI call on NSW Labor Leader Chris Minns to take immediate action in regard to this matter resulting in the immediate dis endorsement of Councillor Hussein from the Labor team.โ€

Asked about the incident, a spokesman for Cumberland Council said it was handling โ€œmatters confidentially in accordance with relevant proceduresโ€.

Mr Minnsโ€™ spokeswoman said they expected councillors to โ€œconduct themselves with respect and dignity at all timesโ€ and the appropriate place for a councillor complaint was Cumberland Council.

ALP councillor Mohamad Hussein was trying to act out the poem, obviously….

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 14, 2023 4:44 pm

Itโ€™s like temperature time series. You choose the start point you like.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 14, 2023 4:44 pm

โ€œAgriculture minister Murray Watt says the live sheep export industry has lost its social licence.โ€

Really?

Who grants social licenses? What are the conditions? What are the avenues of appeal?

It is a BS word made up to allow the dead sheep who listen to politicians to think they are clever because they think they are using clever words.

Why doesn’t he say what he really means but is at pains avoiding being clear – he is claiming that ordinary Australians are the ones opposing live sheep export. And even if that is what he is claiming it is not even what he is doing. He is buying some militant constituency somewhere with the livelihoods of others. Other countries will just pick up the contracts so no sheep will be spared, in fact they will probably travel in worse conditions than ours.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 14, 2023 4:49 pm

Veteran Independent councillor Paul Garrard, 71, was orating the 1892 classic โ€œThe Man from Ironbarkโ€ at the start of a dinner following an annual budget weekend planning session for Cumberland Council โ€ฆ

Jebus. Probably listens to Macca on Sunday.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 14, 2023 4:50 pm

โ€œThe best way to achieve that edge is to tightly regulate the private ownership of firearms so that police officers donโ€™t need the very high-powered variety for general duties.

Since the vast majority of Australians dont hold firearms the vast majority of police must not as well?
Since all firearms are locked away no police should need to carry any anyway?

And this is the (extremely few) firearms Sneakers is ovulating over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDM6JqAezw0

Another business wrecked by government shits. Tourism, we dont need no steeenkin tourism!
Elavela, shore there years ago.

Lysander
Lysander
February 14, 2023 4:50 pm
Dot
Dot
February 14, 2023 4:52 pm

Ha!

PJW said “high strangeness”.

If he’s not a believer, he’s very well read.

Lysander
Lysander
February 14, 2023 4:55 pm

Premier McClown is currently talking about something called “Abortioncare”

Isn’t that an oxymoron???

bespoke
bespoke
February 14, 2023 4:56 pm

He is buying some militant constituency somewhere with the livelihoods of others.

Not entirely. He is playing to ignorant suburbanites who think live export is just icky.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 14, 2023 5:00 pm

Geez the “secret weapons cache” looks like its 90% confected.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-14/wa-gun-laws-rewrite-after-secret-bunker-pastoralists/101971338
Reform of WA’s firearms act was already underway after a looming requirement that gun owners undergo regular mental health checks was announced last week.

The additional action on high calibre firearms came at the request of WA Police after the discovery and seizure of the cache of high powered weapons in Perth.

“Unbelievably, the worst offence this individual has allegedly committed is failing to apply for to the local council,” Police Minister Paul Papalia said.

“This person was a licensed firearms owner โ€” most of the weapons down there were licensed.
“Why he needed that many high-powered rifles in a secret underground shooting range is beyond me.”

Mr Papalia also rejected suggestions the ban would impact the management of large feral animals, such as camels and donkeys, in remote parts of the state.

“These firearms are not used by professional shooters who cull camels, donkeys or horses, they use a lower-calibre firearm,” he said.

“These are powerful firearms that can only be used for hunting animals that we don’t have in Western Australia.”

And here we have a mong laying out what they want, for now.
Control in cities needed
But Geraldton resident Chris Adams* said a history of firearms violence in his extended family had highlighted a need for reform.

Having spent a decade managing feral animals in the Pilbara, he said none of the 56 firearms to be banned by the government were needed to control vermin in WA.

But he said there needed to be a focus on firearms storage in suburban areas.
“For everyone to be safe in the city, they need public gun depositories, where you can put your gun in a central base where it is locked tight and secure,” Mr Adams said.

“If you have an argument and emotion comes into it, people can lose their state of mind, go for their firearms and kill their partners.

“If [firearms] are not at your address, they’re in a public safe, there is time to reason out; that would save a lot of people.”

*A lifelong pubic serpent, not just a “resident”…

Bar Beach Swimmer
February 14, 2023 5:01 pm

Zulu,
Went to Singleton Infantry Museum today and, among other artefacts, saw the Gatling Gun.

What a great place. Didnโ€™t know it when we got there, but itโ€™s closed on Tuesdays, but they let us go through it.

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 14, 2023 5:05 pm

97! It’s a record!

Do you trust the Palaszczuk government to solve the youth crime crisis?
Yes 3 %
No 97 %
290 votes

Vote here if you can climb the Courier-Mail paywall

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 14, 2023 5:08 pm

Terry McCrann on Philip Lowe:

Reserve Bank governor Philip Lowe is in deep, almost certainly terminal, trouble.

Furthermore, the RBA as an institution is about to join the 21st century: it is about to undergo the sort of fundamental โ€˜disruptionโ€™ that has roiled every โ€“ and I mean every โ€“ aspect of life for everyone else.

No-one though should take any either schadenfreudian pleasure or more prosaic comfort in these outcomes. For, as a consequence, we will be entering very โ€“ and I mean very โ€“ dangerous times.

I agree with my colleague, The Australianโ€™s Eric Johnstonโ€™s judgment, that Loweโ€™s fate was probably sealed by his catastrophic misjudgment โ€“ my words not Ericโ€™s โ€“ in briefing a private investment banking lunch last week.

It was not just that Lowe opted to do that instead of what had become his regular public speech โ€“ and publicly taking and answering questions โ€“ to open the year.

It was that he chose to do it ahead of his two appearances before the backbench pollies โ€“ from the Senate and the Reps โ€“ this week. What, did he really expect that would win him a standing ovation from the always publicity-seeking entirely-populist backbenchers? Thank you governor, for speaking to the wicked money-lenders, before us? Itโ€™s not exactly as if he โ€“ and the RBA, board and management โ€“ were being wafted ever higher on the winds of appreciation and applause from across the community, before this โ€˜unfortunateโ€™ two weeks in February. Bluntly, he had been skating on increasingly thin ice for months now; I think he just went through.

It would have been difficult for any treasurer to reappoint him to a new term when his current one expires in September; weโ€™ll just โ€˜look pastโ€™ that, ahem, โ€˜the promiseโ€™. It would have been even more difficult for a newbie Labor treasurer to reappoint him, given the political pain he is delivering with his interest rate hikes – fundamentally necessary and appropriate as they are.

This is made even more pointed by the review into the entirety of the RBA and monetary policy, initiated by this very same treasurer and due to report at the end of next month. Re-appointment would require the treasurer to essentially reject the review and opt to stick with the status quo. Somewhat unlikely, I would suggest. But whatโ€™s coming โ€“ The first RBA head from outside the bank since Bernie Fraser in 1989, who, a tad ironically, gave us the monetary policy framework and execution that ruled so successfully for the next near-30 years; a likely whole โ€˜new RBAโ€™ more broadly; and maybe a whole โ€˜new monetary policyโ€™ โ€“ will take us into uncharted, turbulent and highly dangerous waters. Furthermore, it will be happening at an extraordinarily acute point in time.

Again, itโ€™s not just when the RBA is embarked on โ€“ so far, half โ€“punishing, but absolutely necessary rate hikes; and when that job is barely half-done.

But further, it will be doing so, in extraordinarily febrile global contexts and dynamics.

We do not want a โ€˜newโ€™, far less a โ€˜wokeโ€™, RBA to back off too early โ€“ the monetary equivalent of someone stopping their anti-biotic regime early because they โ€˜feel betterโ€™.

Far less, such an RBA to embrace touchy-feely, โ€˜less painfulโ€™, more โ€˜directedโ€™, supposedly anti-inflation measures. That way heads for South America, if not specifically Venezuela.

There are two major lessons to draw from the last three years, and neither of them is that interest rates are some sort of inappropriate โ€˜blunt instrumentโ€™, or that they unfairly and inefficiently target borrowers with home loans.

The first is that abnormal monetary policy โ€“ cutting rates to zero and printing money โ€“ was not a sensible or effective response to the extreme execution of policy through Covid; the ordering of the economyโ€™s closure.

The second is precisely the urgency of getting it back to some level of normality.

Johnny Rotten
February 14, 2023 5:08 pm

US Tells Americans to Leave Russia ASAP!

From Armstrong Economics –

COMMENT: I am an American living in Moscow. We were just told that all Americans should leave Russia ASAP by the US embassy. I think all the governments are now looking at Socrates. Your name is even well known here in Moscow. Maybe you have more influence than you realize.

anonymous

REPLY: Well, I have been interviewed on Russian TV several times. RT even asked me about our forecast that Ukraine would be the hot spot a year in advance and we predicted that this would be where WWIII would begin. It is the American press that refuses to cover any of our forecasts. Amazon and Netflix refused to show the movie the Forecaster in the United States. You can what it on Amazon only outside the USA. Then, we were selling the DVD on Amazon in the USA since they refused to stream it. Then that listing was โ€œhackedโ€ to shut that down. The only way to get the DVD is now to order it through our site. All of this just shows how desperate it has become in the United States to actually have a free society. I get a lot of requests for interviews outside the United States. Even the Forecaster Movie was funded by German TV. No American firm would dare produce a film that exposed the corruption in our Judicial system!

Look, EVERY intelligence service monitors our forecasts. Everyone knows this is a computer, not my personal opinion. Consequently, they want the cold hard facts and the timing. Are they acting because of our timing models? No. If they were, they would back off because our models also show the US will lose this one.

Historically, when such an advisory is issued, it is because of a conflict that is imminent. Beware in April/May. The Pi Target on Ukraine is April 26th, 2023. We are headed into a period in that only the computer can project timing with an objective attitude.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/russia/americans-told-to-leave-russia-asap/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

calli
calli
February 14, 2023 5:10 pm

Mohamad Hussein

Mohamad, Mohamad, Mohamadโ€ฆ

He fetched a wild up-country yell might wake the dead to hear

Lost in the momentโ€ฆ.

Zipster
Zipster
February 14, 2023 5:11 pm

US Shoots Down 4 Objects in Just Over a Week | China In Focus

00:46 U.S. Shoots Down 4 Objects in Just Over a Week
03:44 White House Rejects Beijing Claim of U.S. Balloons Over China
04:27 Spy Balloon Over the UK Is Possible: Minister
05:08 Defense Sec. Meets With Canadian Counterpart: Pentagon
06:19 U.S. Test Launches Unarmed ICBM from California
07:27 Chinese Navy Vessel Enters Japanese Waters
08:01 Philippines Accuses China of Using Lasers at Sea
08:59 Philippines Boosts Security Ties with U.S., Japan
10:42 Intel Debating New $1B Vietnam Investment: Sources
11:45 Europe Won’t Send Astronauts to China Space Station
12:49 Report: 117 Falun Gong Practitioners Sentenced in January
14:13 Banks Push Chinese Developer Bond Sales Aiming to Revive the Once Key Market

Johnny Rotten
February 14, 2023 5:11 pm

Two young guys were picked up by the cops for smoking dope and appeared in court on Friday before the judge. The judge said “You seem like nice young men, and I’d like to give you a second chance rather than jail time. I want you to go out this weekend and try to show others the evils of drug use and get them to give up drugs forever. I’ll see you back in court Monday”.

Monday, the two guys were in court, and the judge said to the first one “How did you do over the weekend?” “Well, your Honour, I persuaded 17 people to give up drugs forever”. “17 people? That’s wonderful. What did you tell them?” “I used a diagram, your Honour. I drew two circles like this…

…and told them this (the big circle) is your brain before drugs and this (small circle) is your brain after drugs”. “That’s admirable” said the judge.

“And you, how did you do?” he asked the second boy “Well, your Honour, I persuaded 156 people to give up drugs forever”. “156 people! That’s amazing! How did you manage to do that?!?” “Well, I used a similar approach”.

The guy draws two circles.

“I said (pointing to the small circle) ‘this is your asshole before prison…’”

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 14, 2023 5:12 pm

The Pi Target on Ukraine is April 26th, 2023

So if nothing happens Johnny will admit the big predictions are a scam and stop posting the convicted fraudster??

Johnny Rotten
February 14, 2023 5:12 pm

When people ask me if I went to film school I tell them, ‘no, I went to films.’

– Quentin Tarantino

calli
calli
February 14, 2023 5:14 pm

That poetry reading and the entriggering of a servant of Allah is one of the funniest things Iโ€™m likely to hear this year.

Was it the razor, the throat cutting or the beard? Perhaps the gilded yoofs. We may never know.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

“15-minute cities” theory collides with the reality of cops being stranded at bollards when trying to attend a 999 call.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 14, 2023 5:15 pm

โ€œWhy he needed that many high-powered rifles in a secret underground shooting range is beyond me.โ€

Justify your freedoms!

If taking them away makes my job easier, then screw you.

Anyway, police have never needed high power weapons to bowl over an old woman sitting on a park bench or hauling a pregnant woman out of her home in her pyjamas, of kicking a guys door in for an early morning raid because he disagrees with the a state health officer. They have never seen fit to draw weapons on maniacs endangering the plebs – deploying instead in their standard ‘Confuse a cat’ formation in the hope they will…stop.

They only use high power weapons to kill civilians in chocolate shop stand offs.

Zipster
Zipster
February 14, 2023 5:15 pm

can we vote armstrong economics off the island?

calli
calli
February 14, 2023 5:17 pm

Is Armstrong the Weakest Link?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 14, 2023 5:18 pm

Armstrongs computer program is the real brains behind the MAFS matchups!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Hang on, let me get this straight: The firearms in the bunker in WestOz are all legally owned, legally registered, by the bloke who had them.
…. it’s just that the cops, who couldn’t find the safe full of guns without totally ransacking the house, did not like the safe he had them in?
… aaaand he hadn’t a council building permit to install the safe?

Are we fuking well joking here?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 14, 2023 5:21 pm

Reserve Bank governor Philip Lowe is in deep, almost certainly terminal, trouble.

Bwahahahaha! Let’s go to tape shall we?

RBA governor Philip Lowe says climate change is having profound effects on the Australian economy (2020)

“Reserve Bank of Australia governor Philip Lowe has said interest rates are likely to stay low for “years, if not decades”, increasing the pressure on governments and business to invest but stoking fears about household debt and soaring house prices.

Dr Lowe also flagged that climate change will have “profound” effects on the economy, including reducing the value of many assets. … The RBA governor defended the central bank’s decision to include climate change in its analysis of the economy and setting monetary policy.”

Hand that man a double award for wrongology! Maybe he can get a job with the WEF after he’s booted.

Sadly I don’t think Albo will show him the door: he’s too useful to the progressive cause.

Bar Beach Swimmer
February 14, 2023 5:23 pm

Reported on the ABC website is that Lisa Wilkinson has split from Channel Tenโ€™s legal representation and decided for her own legal team in the Bruce Lehrmann defamation action.

Was wondering whether Channel Ten may have been seeking a settlement and this did not suit Mrs Redbandanaman. If so, is this a repeat of the hubris of one Craig Thomson?

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 14, 2023 5:24 pm

Very humourous, but his ego won’t allow it. It will go ahead. Hun:

Premier Daniel Andrews has been urged to check his โ€œwhite male privilegeโ€ and refuse a statue for his long service in favour of bestowing the honour on a woman.

Mr Andrews will have served 3000 days in office on Monday, the trigger for immortalisation in a statue under a Kennett government policy from the 1990s.

If a bronzed Andrews monument is erected beside some former premiers outside One Treasury Place it will join about 570 men with statues across Melbourne.

Only nine women have monuments, including Queen Victoria, Olympians Betty Cuthbert and Shirley Strickland, opera star Dame Nellie Melba, AFLW player Tayla Harris and French military heroine Joan of Arc.

La Trobe University historian and co-convener of activist group A Monument of Oneโ€™s Own, Professor Clare Wright, called on the Premier to act.

โ€œWhether we need another statue of a white male public figure is open to debate and certainly a point at which Daniel Andrews might stop to consider whether the resources could be redirected to closing the gender gap when it comes to commemorative justice in this state,โ€ she said.

โ€œHe would be well within his progressive rights to be able to put forward other names of women who have contributed a great deal to the political history and civic culture of Victoria who have gone unrecognised thus far.โ€

Prof Wright said Mr Andrews had been a great leader and deserved his electoral success, but he had been aided by โ€œother levels of privilege and advantage that heโ€™s had on account of his genderโ€.

She said that womenโ€™s rights pioneer Vida Goldstein, who was among the first women to stand for federal Parliament, deserved a statue.

Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk, who will have served 3000 days in office later this year, said she didnโ€™t want her state to adopt Victoriaโ€™s practice, and would โ€œdefinitely notโ€ accept a statue.

However, at this stage the Andrews government is sticking with the protocol, while also ensuring that more women are recognised in public art.

โ€œUnder a policy decision put in place by the Kennett government, Victorian premiers who serve 3000 days or more in office will be the subject of a statue to be installed along Treasury Place in recognition of the longevity of their service to the state,โ€ said a Department of Premier and Cabinet spokesman.

โ€œAs a matter of practice, the Department of Premier and Cabinet would provide a brief to government initiating the commissioning after a qualifying premier had left office.โ€

Institute of Public Affairs Foundations of Western Civilisation Program director Bella dโ€™Abrera said the Premier should refuse a statue.

โ€œIf Dan Andrews was truly committed to diversity as he claims he is, he would vacate the pedestal to a woman or a person of colour,โ€ she said.

Dr dโ€™Abrera said the late Queen Elizabeth II should be honoured instead.

Businesswoman and former Western Bulldogs vice-president Susan Alberti questioned why the statue policy had to continue.

โ€œI know the precedentโ€™s been set, but do we have to continue along that way when there are women who have done outstanding work for this state who donโ€™t get recognised ever,โ€ she said.

โ€œI donโ€™t want to be controversial โ€ฆ Iโ€™m just over men being recognised all the time.โ€

Ms Alberti said a portrait could be done of Mr Andrews, and she suggested that a โ€œsmart and humbleโ€ person like Governor Linda Dessau should get a statue.

โ€œOur governor has done a wonderful job, sheโ€™s been outstanding,โ€ she said.

City of Melbourne councillor and CFMEU official Elizabeth Doidge said she wasnโ€™t bothered if the Premier got a statue, but generally didnโ€™t favour โ€œglorifying politicians just for the sake of itโ€.

โ€œThere should be more recognition of women, but not just for a tick-box exercise, there are plenty of women out there who have done amazing things,โ€ she said.

Ms Doidge said that her childhood hero was Olympic gold medallist Cathy Freeman, who has a statue in Sydney.

While there was a broad call for more female statues, there was support across the political divide for the Premier to get his monument.

Former Liberal premier Jeff Kennett said the 3000 days qualifying period had been set on advice from public servants, and he didnโ€™t oppose Mr Andrews being so recognised.

โ€œOf course, the criteria can be changed by the government of the day, as they change many other aspects of community life,โ€ he said.

Mr Kennett said he had previously unsuccessfully urged governments to erect a statue to Victoriaโ€™s first female premier Joan Kirner.

โ€œMaybe they could commission one of Joan and Daniel to stand among their predecessors outside number One Treasury Place,โ€ he said.

Also backing a Kirner statue is Deputy Lord Mayor and ALP figure Nicholas Reece, who is leading a City of Melbourne push to redress the imbalance of male over female monuments.

โ€œJoan was such a trailblazer, she deserves a statue,โ€ he said.

All in all, a rather crap attitude by the ladies. Just examples of the Left trying to put Left each other. Mongyang is such a perfect title for the city formerly known as Melbourne.

rosie
rosie
February 14, 2023 5:25 pm

Why does someone know that the Christian days of Malta are of more interest to me when I came here because Gladiator was filmed here?
I think my favourite thing I’ve done in Europe so far is visit the remnants of the greco-roman theatre in Naples and the Doric columns of the Cathedral in Siracusa.
Other than reading some A Q Quinnell novels which have some Maltese settings, and a flick through ‘Magnificent Malta’ about Malta in WWII I’ve made no enquiries about her til this morning, where I found out that the church 37 metres from me has a daily 9am mass.
Coming into the harbour on the catamaran was magnificent by the way, with the cliffs and the fortresses and all.
I’ve got a week to potter around, I’ll try and do some cultural experiences in the knowledge that I can come back.
The ferry ticket from Pozzallo costs around โ‚ฌ56, โ‚ฌ26 of which was for the trip and the rest port fees and other charges.
Air Malta to Madrid including 23kg luggage was around $120 au so it was a pretty cheap diversion.

rosie
rosie
February 14, 2023 5:30 pm

Families are awesome.
Catholics have had the role models of the Holy Family for 2000 years.
I was reading a twitter thread of a Vietnamese American priest who was grateful to his mother, she went to see her parish priest in Vietnam after her fifth or sixth child and asked if she could use artificial contraception, he said it would be a mortal sin and she went home and ended up with twelve children, he was the eighth.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 14, 2023 5:31 pm

Note the deliberate weasel wording of the Pig commissioner in West Ausytfailure, a man supposedly of the highest integrity.

“Unbelievably, the worst offence this individual has allegedly committed is failing to apply for to the local council,” Police Minister Paul Papalia said.

“This person was a licensed firearms owner โ€” most of the weapons down there were licensed.

Thats a lie – if anything had been shonky, pig guts would have been squealing it from the top of his dung heap at maximum volume.
We accept deliberate lies from the man in charge of the police.

rosie
rosie
February 14, 2023 5:35 pm

Someone snapped a photo of Mr and Mrs bandanna off overseas the other day.
Both in masks, her in big sunglasses, him in a cap, I’m assuming the masks not for covid but for anonymity.
Unsuccessful.

Petros
Petros
February 14, 2023 5:39 pm

There’s a very Adelaide name that applied for the ABC board, Graham Himmelhoch-Mutton. I’m not kidding.

Dragnet
Dragnet
February 14, 2023 5:51 pm

Graham Himmelhoch-Mutton.

With Mutton being pronounced ” moo – ton “

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 14, 2023 5:53 pm

โ€˜With Mutton being pronounced โ€œmoo – tonโ€โ€™

Ed! Get in here and clarify!

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 14, 2023 5:53 pm

Thereโ€™s a very Adelaide name that applied for the ABC board, Graham Himmelhoch-Mutton

Sounds ideal.

calli
calli
February 14, 2023 5:55 pm

Armstrongs computer program is the real brains behind the MAFS matchups!

The Tribe has spoken!

Or is that the Implants?

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 14, 2023 5:57 pm

Cassie’s favourite in the news, Daily Telegraph:

NSW Labor has accused the government of a โ€œsecret privatisation agendaโ€ after a senior minister refused to rule out the potential for selling off the stateโ€™s assets, saying there is โ€œnothing wrong with privatisationโ€.

Speaking at the Property Council of Australiaโ€™s Western Sydney Outlook conference, the Liberal Minister for Transport, Veterans and Western Sydney, David Elliott said asset recycling will continue to be an option for governments, even if there were currently no confirmed plans.

โ€œThere are no plans for privatisation but thatโ€™s not to say that privatisation wonโ€™t occur, because thereโ€™s nothing wrong with privatisation,โ€ he said on Tuesday morning.

โ€œThere is no ideological difference between Labor and Liberal when it comes to privatisation because weโ€™ve both done it, we both do it, and we both will do it.โ€

He also highlighted the sale of Qantas and the Commonwealth Bank which occurred under the government of former Labor prime minister Paul Keating.

Furthering his point, Mr Elliott said โ€œthereโ€™s no way in the worldโ€ that Opposition leader Chris Minns could โ€œput his hand on a Bible right now and say that there will be no privatisationโ€.

โ€œSaying there will be no privatisation in my mind is dishonest because governments sell assets, governments create industries, create networks, create opportunities, and then they sell it,โ€ he said.

Shadow Treasurer Daniel Mookhey said Mr Elliottโ€™s comments were proof of a โ€œsecret privatisation agendaโ€.

In the lead up to the March 25 state election, Mr Minns has repeatedly criticised the government of selling state-owned assets, and blames privatisation for the increasing costs of power bills and toll roads.

โ€œDominic Perrottet and Matt Kean canโ€™t get the story straight on further privatisation from this government,โ€ he told NCA NewsWire.

โ€œBut David Elliott, a member of the government with nothing to lose in the next term of parliament, has come clean about the governmentโ€™s secret privatisation agenda.โ€

Mr Elliott denied Mr Mookheyโ€™s allegations.

โ€œMookhey should get his facts right before he commented because I specifically said there are no plans for further privatisation but Labor have a hide complaining about it given they sold Qantas, The Commonwealth Bank and tried to sell the stateโ€™s electricity assets last time they were in power,โ€ he said.

Whether a Coalition government would privatise further state assets has been a key question faced by the NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet and Treasurer Matt Kean in the last week.

In the first leaderโ€™s debate of the election campaign, Mr Perrottet said Labor would not be able to fund their infrastructure projects without funding from privatisation, a process Mr Minns likened to โ€œflogging off the family jewelsโ€.

โ€œWhat youโ€™re saying is, youโ€™re not going to privatise anything. Is that not going to leave you with your hands tied? When it comes to building stuff that NSW needs?โ€ said Mr Perrottet in the radio debate moderated by 2GBโ€™s Ben Fordham.

On Monday, both Mr Kean and Mr Perrottet maintained there are โ€œno plansโ€ for further privatisation, but cited an economic strategy that involved asset recycling (another term for privatisation) and borrowing money to fund the governmentโ€™s economic strategy.

However, previously speaking to reporters on Friday, Mr Kean unanimously ruled out privatising Sydney Water and Hunter Water.

NCA NewsWire has approached the Premier and the Treasurerโ€™s offices for comment.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 14, 2023 6:00 pm

Beach Bar Swimmer

Was wondering whether Channel Ten may have been seeking a settlement and this did not suit Mrs Redbandanaman

I expect there are a number of things not completely aligned. Would be a few interesting meetings and international phone calls I suspect.

calli
calli
February 14, 2023 6:02 pm

Iโ€™m assuming the masks not for covid but for anonymity.

The sunnie goggles were a clue. They looked like something from the Mos Eisley cantina.

Shame dumbo pirate swapped the red kerchief for navy. Not fooling anyone buddy.

rosie
rosie
February 14, 2023 6:03 pm

Just had a peek at twitter.
Apparently transmen, who are in fact women are mad at gay men who won’t ‘date’ them and claiming that those gay men aren’t really homosexual just lovers of male sexual appendages.
What?

calli
calli
February 14, 2023 6:05 pm

I read out your travelogues to the Beloved, rosie. Heโ€™s a true tenderfoot traveller, but Iโ€™m slowly convincing him to try trains, buses and ferries.

Catamaran to Malta sounds very enticing .

calli
calli
February 14, 2023 6:06 pm

Soโ€ฆgay men are really straight women.

Okay.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 14, 2023 6:07 pm

Armstrongs computer program is the real brains behind the MAFS matchups!

I have a Staffie who would be deeply insulted by the suggestion of being โ€˜the real brains behind the MAFS matchupsโ€™.

Lysander
Lysander
February 14, 2023 6:07 pm

Graham Himmelhoch-Mutton

lamb dressed up?

JC
JC
February 14, 2023 6:08 pm

โ€œAgriculture minister Murray Watt says the live sheep export industry has lost its social licence.โ€

Anyone who used to refer to the uniparty please justify the description after this.

Social licence, may arse.

With 33% of the vote the Liars party needs to be exceedingly humble.

Oh, and Dutton is freaking useless.

calli
calli
February 14, 2023 6:09 pm

lamb dressed up?

By a butcher from Adelaide.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 14, 2023 6:16 pm

NSW Labor has accused the government of a โ€œsecret privatisation agendaโ€ after a senior minister refused to rule out the potential for selling off the stateโ€™s assets

Hahahahahahahah *choke* election.

Liars will be liars. Helf next, betcha.

So predictable I could write a chat bot for this stuff.

(When off to the shops this morning I saw the corflutes are up in my area for the ALP. They have a slogan “A Fresh Start” and a young guy as candidate who look like a blonde surfer, at least from the photo on the corflutes. They’re everywhere. I doubt he’s worked a day in his entire life on a real job.)

C.L.
C.L.
February 14, 2023 6:17 pm

Dutton’s got the Abbotts.
Terminal, I’m afraid.

That same melancholy, gun-shy, soft-voiced, sorry-for-everything yearning to be liked.

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
February 14, 2023 6:19 pm

lol / ffs

just received an email from Football Australia (you know, the soccer mob):

#LoveOurGame has launched – find out more and enter for your chance to WIN!

Itโ€™s been a while, but there’s been plenty happening in the world of Australian womenโ€™s, girlsโ€™ and non-binary personsโ€™ football. There has never been a more exciting time to join OUR GAME!

Just over 12 months ago we launched OUR GAME, an initiative aimed at harnessing the power of football to build an inclusive and diverse game that embraces, positively influences, celebrates, and elevates women and girls and non-binary persons.

Fast forward to today, as we countdown to the FIFA Women’s World Cup 2023TM, we’re excited to launch the #LoveOurGame campaign.

Lock up your daughters, Football Australia is in town.

FA has finally succumbed to the borg. Having women’s teams made up mostly of the alternative-bus-catchers is not enough, apparently.

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 14, 2023 6:24 pm

“Central bankers are not free spirits. They tend to move as a pack. They all brought down interest rates too low and allowed inflation to gather speed. Then once it gathered speed their Keynesian economics, which led to the problem in the first place and which they all share, gives them no clear guidelines as to when enough is enough of interest rate increases.”
But let’s sack Lowe and then get another one who does much the same sort of thing.

Frank
Frank
February 14, 2023 6:25 pm

For Rabz, perhaps? Joff Oddie, the guitarist from Wolf Alice, does a walkthrough of his pedalboard. It is very big.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 14, 2023 6:25 pm

The internet news people have kindly informed me that there is:

1. A thing called the World Gay Boxing Championships; and
2. Naturally, they will be held in Sydney.

So much material to work with here.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 14, 2023 6:30 pm

Zulu,
Went to Singleton Infantry Museum today and, among other artefacts, saw the Gatling Gun.

Is the new display on “Weapons of the Frontier Wars” open yet?

Bar Beach Swimmer
February 14, 2023 6:33 pm

C.L., @ 6:17pm

It seems to have happened prematurely to Dutton. Abbott never went that way until after he became PM, when it seemed that the โ€œdignity of the officeโ€ undermined his resolve to keep arguing his case.

When you think that R-G-R as well as Turdball & Scummo thoroughly debased the position, how Abbott ever thought his tenure would fully redeem the office is beyond me. I mean he knew that Malcontent was already in the bleachers, so it defies commonsense.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 14, 2023 6:34 pm

Randwick Flamerboxing!

See chiselled interior decorators get punched around the ring!

Fists (ahem) of Fury!

The scripts write themselves.

Bar Beach Swimmer
February 14, 2023 6:34 pm

Is the new display on โ€œWeapons of the Frontier Warsโ€ open yet?

Thatโ€™s a no.

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
February 14, 2023 6:35 pm

ok I’ll start it off
… punched all around the ring …

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
February 14, 2023 6:38 pm

โ€˜More cunning than everโ€™: Valentineโ€™s Day warning as swindlers target lonely hearts
Dating app users have been warned to watch out for scammers “grooming their victims” this Valentine’s Day after a major watchdog reported more than $40 million was lost to fraudsters last year.

Dot, it’s 5:30pm, do you still have your wallet?

๐Ÿ˜€

Look I know the ads on YouTube are targeted based on prior viewing, but… it annoys me that last week I was shown ads for some Ukrainian Women Dating Agency offering to arrange dates with beautiful Ukrainian honeys. Because that sounds so good it can’t be true. It just smells like a scam. Are their takings included in this $40 million cost figure? If not… erm…why not? Asking for a friend.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 14, 2023 6:39 pm

So much material to work with here.

Unavoidable:

โ€œNow is the time for the LGBTQIA+ community to show boxing is for everyone and we belong in the ring!โ€

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 14, 2023 6:39 pm

A thing called the World Gay Boxing Championships

A lot of punched around rings?

Its a whole (hole?) month of flaming faggottry, a festival of prep pills and antibiotic resistant STDs undrewritten to chase the pink international tourist dollar by deviant dan.

And in a link sure to not cause anyone to wake screaming at the undertones.
https://unyouth.org.au/event/global-issues-resources/national-pride-month/

โ€˜Partying with purposeโ€™: WorldPride is heading to Sydney next year โ€“ hereโ€™s what to expect

WorldPride was first celebrated in Rome in 2000 โ€“ to staunch opposition from Pope John Paul II and the Vatican โ€“ and has been held every six or so years, in London, Jerusalem and New York City. It is now a biennial, month-long event in which LGBTQ pride spreads over the space of a city. After Sydney, WorldPride will become annual, heading to Washington DC and Amsterdam in 2025 and 2026.

Official theme song of the event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulb0pLBgRCw

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 14, 2023 6:39 pm

Authorities tried to burn off the chemicalsโ€”and wound up creating acid rain.

Worse than that. They managed to produce phosgene, which was used in WW1 as a highly toxic chemical weapon. I still haven’t heard anything from Mr Buttigieg the Transportation boss. Maybe he’s on maternity leave again.

Pete Buttigieg makes cringey spy balloon joke, stays silent on Ohio train derailment (13 Feb)

Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg copped bipartisan heat Monday when he failed to address the catastrophic Ohio train derailment which released toxic chemicals into the air this month โ€” but joked about Chinese spy balloons and moaned about a lack of diversity in the construction industry.

โ€œIt couldnโ€™t be a more exciting time for transportation,โ€ Buttigieg, 41, said in a remarks at the National Association of Counties Legislative Conference in Washington, DC

Well that’s true. It’s pretty exciting when you gas an entire town with phosgene.

Lysander
Lysander
February 14, 2023 6:39 pm

I thought they only boxed gays in Islamic countries?

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 14, 2023 6:44 pm

Reported on the ABC website is that Lisa Wilkinson has split from Channel Tenโ€™s legal representation and decided for her own legal team in the Bruce Lehrmann defamation action.

10 is owned by CBS, which is a spook outfit.

Pretty obviously, the plan from CBS is to fold and gift Texas Bruce a few million.
Sounds like Lisa may not have foreseen that development?

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 14, 2023 6:50 pm

Duttonโ€™s got the Abbotts.
Terminal, Iโ€™m afraid.

He was a placeholder at best. Thanks to KRuddy they are stuck with him to the next election. Whoโ€™s up next?

calli
calli
February 14, 2023 6:50 pm

That same melancholy, gun-shy, soft-voiced, sorry-for-everything yearning to be liked.

Itโ€™s weird C.L. Heโ€™s an ex copper too.

I wonder if he had these urges to be liked when he nicked villains?

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 14, 2023 6:51 pm

โ€œAgriculture minister Murray Watt says the live sheep export industry has lost its social licence.โ€

Translation:

The Labor Party, as a branch office of GloboHomo, wants to shut the Meat Industry down.
All the hungry sheepshaggers have got to do is disavow Live Export and boycott the sales.

They’re too greedy and stupid to do that, so the Industry is going tits up instead.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 14, 2023 6:53 pm

Dutton changed his mind over walking out on Rudd’s Apology, so his career’s over?
Gimme a break.

calli
calli
February 14, 2023 6:53 pm

Whoโ€™s up next?

Someone very keen to switch from State to Federal I suspect. Whose ambition is directly inverse to their talent.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 14, 2023 6:56 pm

Groogs has always been pro mutton.

calli
calli
February 14, 2023 6:57 pm

This is how itโ€™s done.

Iโ€™m picturing Luigi the Un-a-believable as the nickee.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 14, 2023 7:00 pm

Dutton’s got a heads up that Labor are going to target him as a Raaaaciissstt! re The Voice.

The easiest way to get in front of that is to have a change of heart on walking out on Rudd.
This puts that to bed, then he segues to asking about the successes of Rudd’s Apology.
Labor don’t wanna go there, so it’s another moral victory for Dutton.

Cassie of Sydney
February 14, 2023 7:02 pm

“That same melancholy, gun-shy, soft-voiced, sorry-for-everything yearning to be liked.”

It’s a uniquely LINO, RINO and CINO disease.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 14, 2023 7:04 pm

Groogs playing himself like a Stradivarius again.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 14, 2023 7:04 pm

There’s a huge unmet domestic market for Mutton.
50 years ago, the only Dogs Eyes worth eating were filled with minced mutton, Fish & Chip shops used Mutton tallow in the cookers, there were a couple on every road.
What happened?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 14, 2023 7:04 pm

โ€œNow is the time for the LGBTQIA+ community to show boxing is for everyone and we belong in the ring!โ€

Every lesbian insists on their right to box.

But instead of fighting on a mat, they want a rug.

Beertruk
February 14, 2023 7:05 pm

Do you trust the Palaszczuk government to solve the youth crime crisis?

I don’t trust the Palaszczuk government to sit the right way on a shitter.

Cassie of Sydney
February 14, 2023 7:06 pm

The millionaire Mosman buffoon and his grotesque amphibian wife were snapped at Mascot catching a flight somewhere , no doubt heading off o/s and no doubt travelling first class, because that’s what hypocrites do. Both were masked, which I found refreshing because it was quite an improvement on their ugly, ugly faces.

bespoke
bespoke
February 14, 2023 7:07 pm

So sick of bs double speak like “”inclusive”. Nothing stopping a gay boxer from reaching the top if he is good enough. We are being dragged into tribalism by naive fools.

Dot
Dot
February 14, 2023 7:08 pm

. I think all the governments are now looking at Socrates. Your name is even well known here in Moscow. Maybe you have more influence than you realize.

Oh come on.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 14, 2023 7:09 pm

Emile Griffith, some say Joe Louis, Bennie Briscoe, there’s been a few.

Dot
Dot
February 14, 2023 7:11 pm

Dot, itโ€™s 5:30pm, do you still have your wallet?

That I do.

However I am reduced to one kidney and this ice bath is damned cold.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 14, 2023 7:12 pm

Tommy Loughran, Jack Sharkey, the Lispin’ Lith, Abe Attell, Rothstein’s point man for the 1919 Black Sox scandal.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 14, 2023 7:15 pm

Has Groogs gone into a loop?

Beertruk
February 14, 2023 7:20 pm

โ€œNow is the time for the LGBTQIA+ community to show boxing is for everyone and we belong in the ring!โ€

Being ‘punched in the ring’ would be normal for them.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 14, 2023 7:23 pm

Has Groogs gone into a loop?

A sort of Ouroborus, but instead of the serpent eating itโ€™s own tail eternally feeding on and growing itself we have the creature with its head up its own arse, continually eating its own shit.

Bar Beach Swimmer
February 14, 2023 7:23 pm

That same melancholy, gun-shy, soft-voiced, sorry-for-everything yearning to be liked.

Does this demeanour come down to having adolescent โ€œadvisorsโ€ assuming to know what electors are focused on? See Britnee

bespoke
bespoke
February 14, 2023 7:26 pm

Prawns and cheese cake.
Life is good.

Beertruk
February 14, 2023 7:28 pm

A sort of Ouroborus, but instead of the serpent eating itโ€™s own tail eternally feeding on and growing itself we have the creature with its head up its own arse, continually eating its own shit.

And going in ever diminishing circles.

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 14, 2023 7:33 pm

the World Gay Boxing Championships

So many prizes, so little time:

1) Best Trunks
2) Best Tights
3) Tightest Clinch
4) Most Interesting Makeup
5) Biggest Corner Sulk

Cassie of Sydney
February 14, 2023 7:36 pm

“Does this demeanour come down to having adolescent โ€œadvisorsโ€ assuming to know what electors are focused on? See Britnee”

I suspect his ears are full of soaking wet advice from the likes of Senators Bummingham and Bragg. Actually, after watching Bragg last week on Sky get crucified by Andrew Bolt over da Voice, Bragg is an adolescent. Just hopeless.

duncanm
duncanm
February 14, 2023 7:38 pm

rosiesays:
February 14, 2023 at 6:03 pm
Just had a peek at twitter.
Apparently transmen, who are in fact women are mad at gay men who wonโ€™t โ€˜dateโ€™ them and claiming that those gay men arenโ€™t really homosexual just lovers of male sexual appendages.
What?

rosie – its time for us to embrace the implosion of the left.

It is joyous to watch.

I wonder if transmen like buttsex ? So confusing.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 14, 2023 7:39 pm

Does this demeanour come down to having adolescent โ€œadvisorsโ€ assuming to know what electors are focused on? See Britnee

Uh, Higgins was a Media Advisor, aka Spin Doctor.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 14, 2023 7:50 pm

Prawns and cheese cake.
Life is good.

Define “good”.

From these fine memes yesterday.

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 14, 2023 7:51 pm

Journalist rages at lack of charging stations; waiting in line, and paying a lot for his ‘leccy vehicle:

During the Christmas holidays, Tesla drivers were forced to wait in 90-minute queues at charging stations as thousands took to the roads.

Queues for charging stations were spotted nationwide, including in Victoria and NSW.

Footage showed Tesla owners aimlessly standing around their cars as they waited for their turn at a Wodonga station on the NSW/Victoria border.

Similar scenes at a Coffs Harbour charging point in northern NSW, with Teslas stretching through the carpark as drivers waited their turn to power up.

The word is Schadenfreude baby: “…the experience of pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction that comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, or humiliation of another.”

Daily Mail

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
February 14, 2023 7:52 pm

In the headlines today…
1. Dating app users have been warned to watch out for scammers “grooming their victims” this Valentine’s Day
2. Bill Shorten’s attempt to sell a new government service to Australians using rom-com movies and memes on Valentine’s Day has sensationally flopped.

Well done, dating-app users!

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 14, 2023 7:52 pm

The issue is that Lowe has never had a real job.
The issue is he completed his Phd under Krugman.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 14, 2023 7:53 pm

The issue isn’t that Lowe hasn’t had a real job.
The issue is he completed his Phd under Krugman.

Indolent
Indolent
February 14, 2023 7:54 pm
rosie
rosie
February 14, 2023 7:58 pm

At a bar, Tonyโ€™s, using WiFi because my Italian windtre refuses to work. I even tried turning it off and on.
First task will be a new sim, I have directions so thereโ€™s that.

Iโ€™m near the ferry port for Sliema to Valletta ferry, a mystery solved.
Everything is in English, there is even a Mark and Spencer shop next door
Also the Maltese word for Queen is Sultana.

Roger
Roger
February 14, 2023 8:00 pm

Journalist rages at lack of charging stations; waiting in line, and paying a lot for his โ€˜leccy vehicle: Queues for charging stations were spotted nationwide, including in Victoria and NSW.

The media is also reporting, with pics, queues at food banks in western Sydney.

Check your privilege.

rosie
rosie
February 14, 2023 8:00 pm

its time for us to embrace the implosion of the left.

We do know what they won’t be doing.

Frank
Frank
February 14, 2023 8:01 pm

A sort of Ouroborus, but instead of the serpent eating itโ€™s own tail eternally feeding on and growing itself we have the creature with its head up its own arse, continually eating its own shit.

I think they made a few films about that. Most distasteful.

rosie
rosie
February 14, 2023 8:01 pm

Apparently all you need to be a gay man these days is a beard.

calli
calli
February 14, 2023 8:01 pm

Oh my stars! Thereโ€™s a recipe for Prawn Cheesecake.

I will try it and report back.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
February 14, 2023 8:04 pm

Faustus

We paid $53,000 for our first house in 1983. That was approximately our combined annual income at the time as two fairly junior professionals. As a result we managed with 18% interest rates.
The exact same house sold for $1.55 m in 2021

From the RBA Inflation calculator today.

A basket of goods and services valued at $53000 in calendar year 1983, would in calendar year 2021 cost $179,053.04
Total change in cost is 237.8 per cent, over 38 years, at an average annual inflation rate of 3.3 per cent.

About 30 years of artificially low interest rates (after ~1992) allowing cheap credit to rapidly bid up the price of housing at roughly 8.6 times the rate of CPI would have to be a big factor in the unaffordability of housing, yes?

Roger
Roger
February 14, 2023 8:05 pm

Do you trust the Palaszczuk government to solve the youth crime crisis?

Solve it?

Their policies have exacerbated it.

Rabz
February 14, 2023 8:08 pm

Thanks, Frank. Joff is a great guitarist.

rosie
rosie
February 14, 2023 8:08 pm

You can be very confident about the catamaran calli, in case you missed it as well as being named for a very fine saint, it is a Tasmanian Incat and huge.
Many of the staff were Philipino and the default language English.

rosie
rosie
February 14, 2023 8:14 pm

My accommodation has a big note at the front door about carbon footprints, (mine must be ghastly), but the bed had only a thin throw and the air-conditioning was set to 24 which apparently is the host’s default.
Really?
Okay maybe in summer but that’s too warm for me who likes a cool cave and a warm bed.
Getting a quilt delivered and I’ve turned the air conditioner off.
I thought Europe had an energy crisis.

calli
calli
February 14, 2023 8:23 pm

Similar scenes at a Coffs Harbour charging point in northern NSW, with Teslas stretching through the carpark as drivers waited their turn to power up.

Drove the diesel cruiser through Coffs both ways. Should have waved.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 14, 2023 8:26 pm

Journalist rages at lack of charging stations

Most journalists have a ready orifice for an electric cable.
Might even get a voom out of one, putting 4 million volts up its backside.
They really do have beautiful plumage though.

Roger
Roger
February 14, 2023 8:27 pm

Say…

Do you suppose “Tory fighter” Albanese realises that he represents the new Establishment?

I mean, the man himself is said to be worth upwards of $5m.

One of the rentier class, no less.

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 14, 2023 8:27 pm

Lowe is just another example of our soft handed, effete elites.

Roger
Roger
February 14, 2023 8:28 pm

Not that I begrudge him his wealth.

But I do detest hypocrisy.

Jorge
Jorge
February 14, 2023 8:29 pm

Andrews and Albo both hoping to be ringside.

Dot
Dot
February 14, 2023 8:29 pm

Look, EVERY intelligence service monitors our forecasts.

It would be extremely prideful to conclude that Boko Haram’s intel arm waits with bated breath for the Socrates “forecasts”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 14, 2023 8:32 pm

The whole Parrot sketch was genius.

132andBush
132andBush
February 14, 2023 8:34 pm

Dot @4 something upthread.

How it represents anyone but the pen pushing fat old rich (but miraculously work shy and having no business acumen) alt lifestyle pasty weirdos trying to bang their mousy secretaries 30 years their junior is beyond me.

This could be describing the coalition.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 14, 2023 8:37 pm

This could be describing the coalition.
Not really.
Rachelle Miller is a looker, why did she get $576,000?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 14, 2023 8:38 pm

One of the rentier class, no less.

From memory, Linda Burney lists five rental properties.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
February 14, 2023 8:39 pm

Would your great uncles be the Nott brothers, Dot? I can’t imagine people like them and Jack Renshaw getting far in today’s New Class fraud of an ALP.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 14, 2023 8:42 pm

Ed Casesays:
February 14, 2023 at 8:37 pm
This could be describing the coalition.
Not really.
Rachelle Miller is a looker, why did she get $576,000?

You keep hinting that you know the answer, don’t be coy, tell us.

Dot
Dot
February 14, 2023 8:42 pm

I think they would have joined One Nation. There’s a lot of smug young ALP voters now who would mock and jeer their elders.

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