Landscape with a Hunter – Valaam Island, Ivan Shishkin, 1867
calli May 6, 2024 1:17 am Good afternoon from Barcelona. Nearly didn’t make it. Thanks for that calli, I hope…
Open Thread – Weekend 18 March 2023
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- Bumtree #5
- The beach which banned vanilla ice cream
And…I’ve just received a generic apology from BA for the delayed flight. Ahhhh…Heathrow. 😀
I don’t live in the other countries, I live in the West. No one’s asking you to move there. You…
So you’re saying there is no problem with the transparency law? That’s not what I said. Where is this poll…
Good afternoon from Barcelona. Nearly didn’t make it. Got to the gate and BA Karen informs us that our roll…
FTX Claims Sam Bankman-Fried Plundered $2.2 Billion in ‘Loans and Payments’ as CEO
FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried has been accused of taking more than $2 billion in “loans and payments” from the firm during his time as CEO. Democrat megadonor SBF faces allegations of committing massive fraud using his cryptocurrency exchange and trading firm.
Intelligencer reports that Sam Bankman-Fried, the founder of the failed cryptocurrency exchange FTX, received a staggering $2.2 billion in loans and payments while allegedly committing a massive fraud within the business, according to a late-night announcement made by liquidators on Wednesday. As federal investigators construct their case against Bankman-Fried, who is currently facing 12 charges, including money laundering and bank fraud, the revelation may have a significant impact on his case.
Bankman-Fried reportedly obtained more than $2 billion in loans, mainly through the hedge fund he founded, Alameda Research, according to documents filed with the bankruptcy court. Alameda allegedly misappropriated customer deposits from FTX accounts in an effort to cover its losses after suffering losing large amounts of money on bad investments.
Bankman-Fried wasn’t the only executive to receive compensation through Alameda. Nishad Singh, a former director of engineering, received $587 million, while Gary Wang, a co-founder, received $246 million. Ryan Salame, a former co-CEO, received $87 million, and John Samuel Trabucco, former co-CEO of Alameda, received $25 million. Bankman-Fried’s ex-girlfriend Caroline Ellison, who also once served as Alameda’s CEO, received loans and payments totaling a comparatively modest $6 million.
The combined $3.2 billion that the top executives at FTX and Alameda effectively lent themselves does not include the $240 million spent on luxury real estate in the Bahamas or the direct political contributions made by FTX, according to the company’s new management. This most recent revelation appears to support Caroline Ellison’s earlier claims, which she made in December when she told a judge that Alameda had secretly loaned company executives billions of dollars.
Ellison, Wang, and Singh, are all reportedly cooperating with the government as part of their guilty pleas to fraud charges, and are likely assisting federal investigators in checking these unusual loans and payments as they build a case against Bankman-Fried. SBF, who is under house arrest and residing with his parents, has entered a not-guilty plea.
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If that means beloved senior labor figures must be sacrificed for justice to prevail, that is a sacrifice Australia needs to make.
The Mean Girls? Beloved? LOL, indeed ROFLMAO.
I don’t think Vlad the Terrible will be losing any sleep.
He was booted over commentary he made about Indian workers in aged care.
Very conveniently, after Charges of Boy Rapin’ had been laid.
3 Years to Slow The Spread: Covid hysteria and the creation of a never-ending crisis
What resulted was a giant human experiment in Public Health tyranny.
Thursday marks the three year anniversary of the infamous “15 Days To Slow The Spread” campaign.
By March 16, yours truly was already pretty fed up with both the governmental and societal “response” to what was being baselessly categorized as the worst pandemic in 100 years, despite zero statistical data supporting such a serious claim.
I was living in the Washington, D.C. Beltway at the time, and it was pretty much impossible to find a like-minded person within 50 miles who also wasn’t taking the bait. After I read about the news coming out of Wuhan in January, I spent much of the next couple weeks catching up to speed and reading about what a modern pandemic response was supposed to look like.
What surprised me most was that none of “the measures” were mentioned, and that these designated “experts” were nothing more than failed mathematicians, government doctors, and college professors who were more interested in policy via shoddy academic forecasting than observing reality.
Within days of continually hearing their yapping at White House pressers, It quickly became clear that the Deborah Birx’s and Anthony Fauci’s of the world were engaging in nothing more than a giant experiment. There was no an evidence-based approach to managing Covid whatsoever. These figures were leaning into the collective hysteria, and brandishing their credentials as Public Health Experts to demand top-down approaches to stamping out the WuFlu.
To put it bluntly, these longtime government bureaucrats had no idea what the f—k they were doing. Fauci and his cohorts were not established or reputable scientists, but authoritarians, charlatans, who had a decades-long track record of hackery and corruption. This Coronavirus Task Force did not have the collective intellect nor the wisdom to be making these broad brush decisions.
Back then, there were only literally a handful of people who attempted to raise awareness about the wave of tyranny, hysteria, and anti-science policies that were coming our way. There were so few of us back in March in 2020 that it was impossible to form any kind of significant structured resistance to the madness that was unfolding before us. These structures would later form, but not until the infrastructure for the highway to Covid hysteria hell had already been cemented.
Making matters worse was the reality that the vast majority of the population — friends, colleagues, peers and family included — agreed that dissenters were nothing more than reckless extremists, bioterrorists, Covid deniers, anti-science rabble rousers, and the like.
Yet we were right, and we had the evidence and data to prove it. There was no evidence to ever support such a heavy-handed series of government initiatives to “slow the spread.”
SA Mean Girl kd wrong will prove to be the problem. The Radelaide connection is strong here. Don’t forget the ALPBC and AWW connections. Pew!
Luigi spruiking the VOICE ..
https://postimg.cc/K4k5TgTP
Ed Casesays:
March 18, 2023 at 10:17 am
SpongeBob splutters:
Drunks should NOT be given free out-of-hours access to secure areas.
Lehrmann wasn’t drunk.
He had deliberately left his Security Pass at home, even though he intended to do some “work” at PH that night/following morning.
Richard Cranium wanks.
Define “drunk”, had Lehrman been drinking at all? If he had, and did not have his PH pass, security had two options. Refuse entry, or ask him to specify the papers he wanted, and where they were stored. Then personally escort him to the office and supervise the collection of the papers.
Mizzzz Knickerless, in her acknowledged drunken (falling down) state should never have been permitted to go to the office. She should have been required to wait in the foyer (preferably with her knees crossed) until Lehrman returned.
Security was breached, regardless of what might or might not have occurred in the office that night.
Of Course You Know What “Woke” Means
I’d rather use any other term at this point, but can we get real please?
As I have said many times, I don’t like using the term “woke” myself, not without qualification or quotation marks. It’s too much of a culture war pinball and now deemed too pejorative to be useful. I much, much prefer the term “social justice politics” to refer to the school of politics that is typically referred to as woke, out of a desire to be neutral in terminology. However: there is such a school of politics, it’s absurd that so many people pretend not to know what woke means, and the problem could be easily solved if people who support woke politics would adopt a name for others to use. No to woke, no to identity politics, no to political correctness, fine: PICK SOMETHING. The fact that they steadfastly refuse to do so is a function of their feeling that they shouldn’t have to do politics like everyone else. But they do. And their resistance to doing politics is why, three years after a supposed “reckoning,” nothing has really changed. (If there’s no such thing as the social justice politics movement, who made the protests and unrest of 2020 happen? The f@cking Democrats?)
The conceit is that “woke” has even shaggier or vaguer boundaries than “liberal,” “fascist,” “conservative,” or “moderate.” And I just don’t think that’s true.
“Woke” or “wokeness” refers to a school of social and cultural liberalism that has become the dominant discourse in left-of-center spaces in American intellectual life.
It reflects trends and fashions that emerged over time from left activist and academic spaces and became mainstream, indeed hegemonic, among American progressives in the 2010s. “Wokeness” centers “the personal is political” at the heart of all politics and treats political action as inherently a matter of personal moral hygiene – woke isn’t something you do, it’s something you are.
Correspondingly all of politics can be decomposed down to the right thoughts and right utterances of enlightened people. Persuasion and compromise are contrary to this vision of moral hygiene and thus are deprecated. Correct thoughts are enforced through a system of mutual surveillance, one which takes advantage of the affordances of internet technology to surveil and then punish. Since politics is not a matter of arriving at the least-bad alternative through an adversarial process but rather a matter of understanding and inhabiting an elevated moral station, there are no crises of conscience or necessary evils.
Woke is defined by several consistent attributes. Woke is
1. Academic
– the terminology of woke politics is an academic terminology, which is unsurprising given its origins in humanities departments of elite universities. Central to woke discourse is the substitution of older and less complicated versions of socially liberal perspectives with more willfully complex academic versions. So civil rights are out, “anti-racism” is in. Community is out, intersectionality is in. Equality is out, equity is in. Homelessness is out, unhousedness is in. Sexism is out, misogyny is in. Advantage is out, privilege is in. Whenever there’s an opportunity to introduce an alternative concept that’s been wrung through academia’s weird machinery, that opportunity is taken. This has the advantage of making political engagement available only to a priestly caste that has enjoyed the benefits of elite university education;
like all political movements, the woke political movement is captured by the urge to occupy elevated status within it.
2. Immaterial
– woke politics are overwhelmingly concerned with the linguistic, the symbolic, and the emotional to the detriment of the material, the economic, and the real. Woke politics are famously obsessive about language, developing literal language policies that are endlessly long and exacting. Utterances are mined for potential offense with pitiless focus, such that statements that were entirely anodyne a few years ago become unspeakable today. Being politically pure is seen as a matter of speaking correctly rather than of acting morally. The woke fixation on language and symbol makes sense when you realize that the developers of the ideology are almost entirely people whose profession involves the immaterial and the symbolic – professors, writers, reporters, artists, pundits. They retreat to the linguistic because they feel that words are their only source of power. Consider two recent events: the Academy Awards giving Oscars to many people of color and Michigan repealing its right-to-work law. The latter will have vastly greater positive consequences for actually-existing American people of color than the former, and yet the former has been vastly better publicized. This is a direct consequence of the incentive structure of woke politics.
3. Structural in analysis, individual in action
– the woke perspective is one that tends to see the world’s problems as structural in nature rather than the product of individual actors or actions. Sometimes the problems are misdiagnosed or exaggerated, but the structural focus is beneficial. Curiously, though, the woke approach to solutions to politics is relentlessly individualistic. Rather than calling for true mass movements (which you cannot create without the moderation and compromise the social justice set tends to abhor), woke politics typically treats all political struggle as a matter of the individual mastering themselves and behaving correctly. The fundamental unit of politics is not the masses but the enlightened person, in the social justice mindset, and the enlightened person is one who has attained a state of moral cleanliness, particularly as expressed in language. The structural problems (such as racism) are represented as fundamentally combated with individual moral correctness (such as articulated in White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo, which argues that racism is combated by white people interrogating their souls rather than with policy). The only real political project is the struggle against the self; the only real political victory is the mastery of one’s thoughts. The distinction between the effective political actor and the morally hygienic thinker is collapsed. You combat homophobia by being gay-affirming. You combat misogyny by respecting women. You combat all social ills by relentlessly fixating on your own position in society and feeling bad about it. Nothing political can escape the gravity of personal psychodrama and no solutions exist but cleansing the self.
4. Emotionalist – “emotionalist” rather than emotional, meaning not necessarily inappropriately emotional but concerned fundamentally with emotions as the currency of politics.
In woke circles, political problems are regularly diagnosed as a matter of the wrong emotions being inspired in someone. Someone feeling “invalid” is no longer an irrelevant matter of personal psychology best left to a therapist but instead a political problem to be solved, and anyone who provoked that feeling is someone who has committed a political crime no matter what the context or pretext. Good political action makes people feel better. To the extent that material victories like feeding the hungry are celebrated, they are celebrated because they inspire good feelings rather than solve corporeal problems. The famous woke antipathy towards the concept of civil liberties and personal freedoms stems from the triumph of emotions; things like rights are no match for the claims of any individual of psychic distress. Economic, legal, and political inequality are all relevant only to the extent that they make people from minority identities sad. The fixation on emotions fits snugly in the assumption of the individual as the basic unit of politics. It also ensures that woke politics assume the possibility of a frictionless universe in which everyone feels good all the time.
5. Fatalistic
– woke politics tend towards extreme fatalism regarding solutions and the possibility of gradual positive political change. Institutions are all corrupt and bigoted, so institutions cannot prompt change. Most people are irredeemably racist, and so the masses cannot create a just society. Constructive police reform is inherently and irrevocably impossible, so the only response to police violence is police abolition, no matter that we can’t actually achieve police abolition. Everything and everyone is presumed to be unapologetically bigoted until proven otherwise. Problems can’t be solved gradually through small steps over time, but only through revolutionary change, which itself will inevitably be blocked by the white-cis-male power structure. Everything sucks all the time, which incidentally justifies yelling all the time for people who enjoy yelling. The purpose of politics is not to sacrifice in the pursuit of change but to occupy the position of eternal Cassandra, someone who identifies the evil but never stops it.
6. Insistent that all political questions are easy
– woke people speak and act as though there are no hard political questions and no such thing as a moral dilemma. Everything is obvious if you’ve only done the reading and done the work, which woke people assure you they did long ago. If you don’t know what the right thing to do or say is, it’s only because you aren’t really dedicated; if you think you’ve hit upon a real dilemma of conflicting but legitimate concerns, you’re simply lacking in education and wisdom. It’s funny, actually, that you don’t know the exact right thing to think, right now. I’m actually laughing.
7. Possessed of belief in the superior virtue of the oppressed – what was assumed by Bertrand Russel to be obviously misguided is now assumed to be true without evaluation: virtue is not just common among the oppressed, virtue is a function of oppression. The correlation between virtue and oppression is one.
8. Enabling people who aren’t Black or Southern to say “y’all”
– this one is unforgivable.
I could go on.
A Litany of Pride, Doug Bandow at American Conservative
Serious question nut case, are you just filling in with wrongology till muttly gets here or trying to take the mantle? Two questions really, but even easy for you to get right. For some reason only known to yourself, supposition is just that. Two people saying virtually the same same thing is all the proof necessary for not guilty since they were the only ones there, except you, since you seem to know everything. How does that work? Come on, even someone as dim as you can answer that.
Lehrman had been a Senior Adviser to an extremely powerful Cabinet Minister and was a Senior Adviser to another powerful Minister.
Refusing him lawful access woulda resulted in Job Loss very smartly.
Groogs has the idiocy turned up to 11. Must be Saturday.
W is going to have to stand in line behind Biden, Carter and Obama for that particular gong.
It’s a race to the bottom.
“Define woke” is just the left’s current talking point.
They still can’t define a woman! 🙂
The answers I’m interested in is why Lehrmann intentionally signed in manually to PH after hours when he coulda just taken his Pass.
Was it to avoid an electronic paper trail?
If so, then it was premeditated.
Which raises the question:
How many times did he get away with raping hopelessly drunken Advisers in PH?
He was seen by the security guards who recognised him, you gigantic plonker.
… Flaherty invoked Jan. 6 to browbeat Facebook into increasing its suppression of true criticisms of COVID policies and vaccines.
See also Jo Nova on the TGA suppressing the free HCQ that Palmer tried to provide.
So, 36.3° in Brisbane in yesterday’s Satanic Heatwave – but on the feelz scale, oh, 46.3°? 50°? Scary?
Yet not record breaking:
He sounds disappointed.
All that CO2 over the past 60 years hasn’t been pulling its weight.
If you squint you can almost see the cogs turning. Getting many briefs Groogs or just the Legal Aid stuff?
He still had to present ID and sign in.
The difference is that he wouldn’t have needed to do that with his Pass, but it woulda left an Electronic Paper Trail.
Signing in with ID, pretty secure for a ne’er do well, since who’s gonna have time during the week to wander down to Security to look over their After Hours Entry Logbook?
Carter was an amateur compared with the others.
But in terms of the scale of the wreckage wrought and the subsequent loss in US prestige, GWB is ahead of Obama & Biden (thus far).
Missing your shining career in the Family Court, Cletus?
rickw:
If we are unsure as to their loyalty to Australia, why not deport them now? Why have we brought in a bunch of fifth columnists who have made it obvious they are here just to loot the system and assault Australian citizens?
Why haven’t all these lovely lassess fronted up to claim their $3 mill in damages?
Ed Casesays:
March 18, 2023 at 10:50 am
Lehrman had been a Senior Adviser to an extremely powerful Cabinet Minister and was a Senior Adviser to another powerful Minister.
Refusing him lawful access woulda resulted in Job Loss very smartly.
First, he didn’t have his PH pass, and Mizzz Knickerless was too blind drunk to identify him and sign him in.
Second, a tale form loooong ago, that illustrates how powerful people used to respect rules and subordinate staff.
One Sir Arthur Tange, a robustly strong public servant, became secretary to the Department of Defence in 1970. Soon after, he decided to call on a secure part of his department. When he arrived at the entrance, the security guard, an elderly ex-serviceman, asked him for his pass, which he did not have, and refused him entry.
Tange did not throw his “Don’t you know who I am” weight around. He returned to his office, called the boss of the division involved, and asked to be met and signed in. This happened, he was given a pass, and the security guard was commended for his efficiency.
This happened in working hours, and Tange was completely sober. Compare the two incidents. The PH security guard should, at the least, been reprimanded for letting them in.
Dotsays:
March 18, 2023 at 10:55 am
“Define woke” is just the left’s current talking point.
They still can’t define a woman! ?
Which is why m0nty=fa was on about it yesterday. Not a trace of original thought among the leftard sheeple.
Ed, not right to state there was “no way” inebriated accuser could get that dress off.
Managing shoes – that’s a different matter.
Consent: If a girl wants the right to change her mind/say No, whatever the circumstances –
then she should know to put on underwear before going out on the town.
I’m off to town to bathe in the reflected glory of a Collingwood win.
Aye, as am I. Just stay safe from the heat Gez, supposed to nudge 40 in this neck of the woods. I predict with 93.1 percent accuracy it won’t get to 37
Ed Casesays:
March 18, 2023 at 10:55 am
The answers I’m interested in is why Lehrmann intentionally signed in manually to PH after hours when he coulda just taken his Pass.
Was it to avoid an electronic paper trail?
Stupid even by your pathetic standards Dick “Ed. A paper “paper trail” is just as effective as an electronic one. Manually signing in also impressed the incident on the memories of security (if the woeful state of Mizzzzz Knickerless had not already done so).
Thus making it a low intensity heatwave
A controlled burn has got away at Eastern View on The Great Ocean Rd
Choppers and planes circling
Plenty of accessible water nearby
A westerly change expected at 2-3 this afternoon
1965 was also the year snow fell in western and central Queensland, as far north as Mackay.
Ed Casesays:
March 18, 2023 at 11:08 am
Missing your shining career in the Family Court, Cletus?
Silly old Richard Cranium still hasn’t worked out that the original meaning of “Cletus”, translated from the Greek, is “Glory”.
He seems to think (if he is able to think) it is some form of insult.
What did Eddie know, when did he know it and why didn’t he report it?
So many questions.
Check your email.
Hot on that electronic paper trail
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTwcYbz21jtT_2SKgKlIId4VsJZPoUh4nqfzg&usqp=CAU
Apparently the substance of the charge is the removal of children from a war zone.
“Illustrious” is another meaning, BJ.
Pretty sure it has nothing to do with Paraclete, which has a different, legal meaning in Gk.
Black Ballsays:
March 18, 2023 at 11:15 am
And as reported by others, an Indian Summer.
Did a Tip run this morning. Fella at the Tip told me the Curraweela fire was started because of a lightning strike over a week ago. Apparently it hit a stump, which smouldered very slowly until it burnt its way through said stump and caught the long grass.
I know it’s no consolation but I am glad it wasn’t purposely lit or because of human error, ie like the guy a couple of years ago using an angle grinder.
Brockquote failing.
Probably harder to lose a written “sign in” from a register than an electronic one. A card can always be mislaid/pinched. Forging a signature is a bit more difficult. And people tend to have a good look at you. And I assume that there is CCTV in the PH checkpoint.
Do we need any more proof this malicious dickhead is trying to sink this blog by legal mischief, as so many fanatical and self absorbed, sociopathic left wing space cadets did to Sinclair D’s and J Soon’s old iteration of Catallaxyfiles?
This is just more left wing, fascist (NAtional SoZIalist) censorship by another name.
Keep this in mind, Grigory, or the equivalent in whatever state or territory you currently fester in:
A person who, by any deception, dishonestly—
(a) obtains property belonging to another, or
(b) obtains any financial advantage or causes any financial disadvantage,
is guilty of the offence of fraud.
You are persistently doing this recklessly and with political motives.
If you keep going with this hostile and spiteful passive aggressive behaviour, I really hope if this ends badly for you and they never stop talking about it in the Wallsend Local Court.
I’m glad too, Pogria. The last one here was lit by rotten children (read unruly yoof) in the dry as dust wetlands. Many…many animals and birds died as a result. It was nesting season.
For those of you who are eligible to vote in the NSW election next Saturday – some thoughts from Alison Bevage.
Biden is the first US president whose policy platform — revealed only after his “election” because it was so shameful — was based on a visceral hatred of everything America stands for and flooding it with illegal migrants to make it a one-party state in perpetuity.
Yet the Democratic Party’s election-riggers demand you believe Biden got more votes in 2020 than any president in history.
I’m Cletus? No I am Cletus. No I am Cletus. No I am Cletus.
Stop me if you’ve heard this one before.
I think Joffa might be reflecting on what life might have been like without the gold jacket and the high profile.
Boambee John,
Your explanation of the meaning of Cletus is all Greek to Head Case. 😉
Far too high-brow.
Head gets all his learnin’ from the Simpsons.
Knuckle Draggersays:
March 18, 2023 at 2:39 am
Why was everyone wearing sandals?!
I remember sandals. They were the Crocs of their time.
chrislsays:
March 18, 2023 at 11:18 am
Also with the ‘run for your life’ flashing icon. Interestingly, two more fires broke out along the coast last night close to the time of the one chrisl mentions. At Lorne and Kennett River.
Elements of 2/32nd Battalion were training at Northam, in Western Australia, prior to deployment to North Africa in 1941.
A staff car was halted at the main gate, by a sentry, who asked to see the identity cards of the driver and the passenger.
“Don’t you know who I am?” was the savage reply. “Brigadier Horatio Herbert FizWilliam?” (names have been changed.) Then, to the driver “Never mind this fool. Drive on.”
“Scuse me mate.” replied the sentry. “I’m new to all this. Who do I shoot, you or the driver?”
Firstly, is “uncertainty about loyalty” adequate grounds for deportation?
Secondly, and most importantly, many of those of Sudanese descent are Australian by birth.
They would therefore have precisely the same rights to be issued with undocumented weapons under the hare-brained scheme being proposed.
Which has been thoroughly thought through.
And criticisms of which are evidence of un-Australian tReASoN.
Calli,
in the late eighties and through the nineties I lived a twenty minute drive from Liverpool. It was mostly small acreage, lots of Italian market gardens. Without fail, every Christmas school holidays kids would light up the gullies on the sides of the roads.
It wasn’t too bad in the years with good rainfall, but every drought year some of us would be fighting to keep our houses and our paddocks from going up in flames.
It wasn’t even local kids. Mostly kids from the new housing estates that had sprung up nearby.
The forced deportation of civilians from a war zone is a war crime.
If Russia’s intentions are benevolent, why not allow the children to return to their families, who will now be living in safety, most likely abroad?
callisays:
March 18, 2023 at 11:22 am
“Illustrious” is another meaning, BJ.
Pretty sure it has nothing to do with Paraclete, which has a different, legal meaning in Gk.
Thanks Calli.
Amusing that Dick Ed thinks that calling someone “illustrious” is some kind of insult.
hzhousewife pontificates:
Why haven’t all these lovely lassess fronted up to claim their $3 mill in damages?
What’s to say there aren’t claims working thru the system right now?
That can’t be reported because Lehrmann has conveniently commenced other Legal proceedings.
He’s very litigious at the moment, you know?
Mmmyes perhaps differentiate yourselves from Labor, people may vote for you sir. Daily Telegraph:
Opposition leader Peter Dutton has weighed in to the state election campaign, declaring a Liberal government was needed “like never before” in NSW given the 1980s-style cost of living crisis “created by Labor”.
While acknowledging his own party faced “lots of issues” that it needed to “get over” – particularly at an organisational level, the Liberal leader said now more than ever the State – and nation – needed Liberal economic management.
Without the work the previous Coalition government did at the federal level, strong decisions around national security such as AUKUS “wouldn’t be a reality”, Mr Dutton said.
“We need to make sure that we have the very strong decisions around national security,” he said.
“AUKUS wouldn’t be a reality without the work that we did when we were in government.
“The government wouldn’t be making the announcement … but for what we were able to negotiate with the United States and the United Kingdom.”
The comments were made in a video address Mr Dutton made to 350 guests crowded in at the Hornsby RSL last week for the election campaign launch of Treasurer Matt Kean, who was this week rumoured to be eyeing off a future career in Canberra.
In the video – seen by The Sunday Telegraph – Mr Dutton apologised for not being able to attend the launch in person, saying he had been “dragged back to Canberra” for a confidential briefing on AUKUS.
“As you know, the prime minister at about eight o’clock our time tomorrow in San Diego will make the announcement on AUKUS and the nuclear submarines,” he said.
“But I really wanted to be there with you in person and to wish Matt and the whole team all the very best.”
In his speech, Mr Dutton praised Premier Dominic Perrottet and his team for how they had performed “against the media” and “against our detractors”, describing it as “remarkable.”, while also noting the achievements Mr Kean had made “around the environment” and infrastructure.
While the party faced issues, the public were more interested in the cost of living crisis, Mr Dutton said.
“They’re interested in what is important to them into their family and the cost of living crisis created by Labor at the moment is a dilemma – and a growing dilemma – for many families in a way that really we haven’t seen since the 1980s,” he said.
“We need liberal economic management at a state and federal level like never before.
“A lot of people have got a very short memory in politics, but don’t forget that it wasn’t that long ago that we were willing the end to a government of Bob Carr and of Morris Iemma and Kristina Keneally and all the hangers on.
“Nobody wants to return back to that.”
As for the future of the Liberal Party, it was “very bright”, he said.
“There’s all that is said in the media about the future of a Liberal Party and relevance to a new generation of Australians and where our place is on a political map,” he said.
“There are lots of issues that we need to get over particularly at an organisational level – we’ll do that.”
Other guests at the $120-a-head launch included Opposition science spokesman Paul Fletcher and Opposition Indigenous Australians spokesman Julian Leeser.
Anyone detect a bit of love for Matt Kean just now?
H B Bearsays:
March 18, 2023 at 11:29 am
I’m Cletus? No I am Cletus. No I am Cletus. No I am Cletus.
Stop me if you’ve heard this one before.
We are all Cletus (except Dick Ed, m0nty=fa and the other obvious trolls).
From ChatGPT. An unbiased opinion:
Are some online trolls psychopaths?
It is difficult to make a blanket statement that all online trolls are psychopaths, as there is a wide range of behaviors that could be considered trolling, and there are many different motivations for engaging in such behavior. However, it is true that some online trolls exhibit characteristics that are consistent with psychopathy.
Psychopathy is a personality disorder characterized by traits such as a lack of empathy, impulsivity, and a disregard for social norms and rules. These traits can manifest in a variety of ways, such as a lack of remorse for hurting others, manipulation of others for personal gain, and a tendency to engage in risky or criminal behavior.
Some trolls may exhibit some of these traits, particularly a lack of empathy and a tendency to manipulate and provoke others. However, it’s important to note that not all online trolls exhibit these traits, and many people engage in trolling behavior for reasons that may not necessarily indicate psychopathy. Additionally, not all individuals with psychopathy engage in trolling behavior. It’s important to approach each case individually and avoid making broad generalizations.
Are some trolls sociopaths?
Similar to the answer regarding psychopathy, it is difficult to make a blanket statement that all online trolls are sociopaths. Sociopathy is another personality disorder that is characterized by a disregard for social norms, impulsive behavior, and a lack of empathy. However, there is some overlap between psychopathy and sociopathy, and the terms are often used interchangeably.
Some online trolls may exhibit sociopathic traits, such as a lack of remorse for their actions and a tendency to engage in manipulative behavior. However, as with psychopathy, not all online trolls are sociopaths, and not all individuals with sociopathy engage in trolling behavior.
It’s important to note that the terms “psychopath” and “sociopath” are not officially recognized diagnoses in the DSM-5, which is the standard classification of mental disorders used by mental health professionals. Instead, these terms are often used informally to describe individuals who exhibit certain patterns of behavior. It’s important to approach each case individually and avoid making broad generalizations.
Under NSW law, recklessly and dishonestly causing someone financial loss is fraud; but also could it be a computer crime under the Australian Criminal Code as kind of denial of service attack?
Under Australian law, the type of behavior you described – recklessly and dishonestly causing someone financial loss – could potentially be considered both fraud and a computer crime under the Australian Criminal Code.
In terms of fraud, Section 192E of the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW) states that a person who, by any deception, dishonestly obtains property belonging to another person, or dishonestly obtains any financial advantage or causes any financial disadvantage, is guilty of an offense. If the troll is engaging in behavior that causes financial loss to the website owners through deception or dishonesty, they could potentially be charged with fraud under this provision.
In terms of computer crime, the relevant provision of the Australian Criminal Code is Section 477.2, which deals with unauthorized access, modification or impairment with intent to commit a serious offense. This provision applies to behavior that involves unauthorized access or modification of a computer system or data, or impairing the operation of a computer system or data, with the intention of committing a serious offense. If the troll is engaging in behavior that impairs the operation of the website or its data, with the intention of committing a serious offense, they could potentially be charged with a computer crime under this provision.
It’s important to note that criminal liability will depend on the specific facts and circumstances of the case, and whether the behavior meets the requirements of the relevant criminal provision. If you have concerns about the troll’s behavior, it’s important to seek legal advice from a qualified attorney who can advise you on your legal options.
If Russia’s intentions are benevolent, why not allow the children to return to their families, who will now be living in safety, most likely abroad?
Beslan massacre of children.
These people are animals, Putin knows they will go after the kids, so he’s removed them from the War.
Dot gets skinny from Bot on Trots.
You couldn’t make it up.
Pogriasays:
March 18, 2023 at 11:30 am
Boambee John,
Your explanation of the meaning of Cletus is all Greek to Head Case. ?
Far too high-brow.
Head gets all his learnin’ from the Simpsons.
The Simpsons is waaaaay above his intellectual level.
So according to pjmedia Trump will be arrested next week. So much for the land of the free.
Ed Casesays:
March 18, 2023 at 11:45 am
hzhousewife pontificates:
Why haven’t all these lovely lassess fronted up to claim their $3 mill in damages?
What’s to say there aren’t claims working thru the system right now?
That can’t be reported because Lehrmann has conveniently commenced other Legal proceedings.
He’s very litigious at the moment, you know?
Getting a bit desperate now, Richard? Starting to thrash around. No need, get back to a subject where you know the answers. Provide the evidence for Curtin’s alleged treachery during WW II. You do have some real evidence? Don’t you?
Ed Casesays:
March 18, 2023 at 11:54 am
Dot gets skinny from Bot on Trots.
You couldn’t make it up.
Dot might not be able to “make it up”, but you do on a regular basis.
The full spectrum of responses finishing with 200k organised militia and 100-200k disorganised militia would make invasion a headache for any party that can still invade after they’ve been nuked.
Exactly. From what I have seen of the CCP, they are likely to be quite concerned about the militia, and at least initially would struggle to respond.
At best, Thancho wants meticulously vetted and recorded weapons distribution, which ultimately provides all the key information to the CCP.
Australia’s most immediate problem is a lack of sufficient weapons for any scheme, which could only be solved quickly enough by getting government out of the way. Allowing direct individual purchase.
From much of the discussion here, anyone would think that Afghanistan didn’t happen.
The “Let Women Speak” has started in Melbourne. Being Melbourne, I’m worried there’ll be violence from the perverts and their supporters, and the Vic plod will stand back and allow it.
“So according to pjmedia Trump will be arrested next week. So much for the land of the free.”
Nothing surprises me about the USA anymore. It’s an ongoing tragedy.
Except the Russians haven’t been doing that. If they’re fighting in Bahkmut or Avdivka it’s because UKR have run their fortified lines of defence through these towns and cities and used them as strongpoints.
Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDCd5xBnRFY
Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o47VZvDgAA
“The Simpsons is waaaaay above his intellectual level.”
Snork!
I’d use the second link. #1 is a bit mouthy.
Met a Bulgarian handyman today.
Unusual I thought.
I’m Cletus and so is my friend.
Their parents just left them there and went abroad?
Because I am a Woman, my name is spelt Cleetous.
The International Criminal Court (ICC) Issues Warrant for Russian President Vladimir Putin for Human Trafficking, Child Abduction and Other Heinous Misdeeds
March 17, 2023 | Sundance
Before looking at the absurdity of the International Criminal Court (ICC) position, it is worth noting that Russia, Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, India, Iran, Iraq, Turkey, the United States and China do not recognize the jurisdiction of the ICC and are not member states in the organization {LINK}.
there’ll be violence from the perverts and their supporters, and the Vic plod will stand back and allow it
Almost a certainty in Victoria.
wow…. 3/4 of the supposed ‘manpower pool’ in the US is unfit for military service.
‘educational deficiencies’, btw, is the allowable term for low IQ
From what I have seen of the CCP, they are likely to be quite concerned about the militia, and at least initially would struggle to respond.
What if the CCP just decide to kill every non ethnic Chinese Australian out of hand? There are only 25 million of us. Mao killed more of their own.
Trans cadres attacking woman at the rally.
Dan will be pleased. He can denounce the victims of violence for inciting the ‘mostly peaceful’ they/herr mob.
The ICC eh. Dolly Downer signed us up for that.
Bullshit!
They learned that there is shedload of money to be made , if you have your hand in the right pockets or snout in the right trough.
It was a fantastic learning experience for many parasites and they want more of it. As can be seen in Ukraine now.
A relation of mine is alleged to have nearly shot his CO when he had an AD in similar circumstances. No idea what the fallout was, or even if it’s true, but it did make a good story.
Crunch time for Voice working group as referendum wording reaches pointy end
The referendum working group has been tasked with coming up with a form of words for the question and the constitutional amendment that the public will vote on.
Having handed the keys to the Constitution over to the Voice Working Group, the Government’s target is for the wording to be ready to be incorporated into the Referendum Bill to go before Parliament in the last week of March.
But not so, according to Linda Burney:
So, apparently the Voice Working Group controls:
a) The form of words of the proposed constitutional change; and
b) The Government’s legislative timetable.
Albanese’s suggested constitutional amendment was a fairly succinct three-pointer; based on extensive consultation and Experts. So, Shirley no big problem bending the words into final shape.
But again, not so:
So, the Government might have to act independently of the Voice Working Group to regain control of its agenda?
This is a near perfect window into a future of government subject to The Voice. Slick, polished, aiming for win-win ‘best outcomes’ – with The Voice a lubricant, not grit and spanners.
The political advantages to Labor must be especially enormous…
Steve Waterson has written a splendid article in today’s Australian illustrating the complicity of so many in the horrors of the government’s response to Covid:
Andrews more puppet than puppetmaster
Instead of sound medical reasoning, our lives were devastated on the strength of opinion polling and focus groups, populated largely, I suspect, by public servants on extended tea breaks at home on full pay.
By STEVE WATERSON
From Inquirer
March 18, 2023
Halfway into our three years of pandemic gaiety I took my dog for a stroll up to the Pacific Highway in Artarmon to observe the thin blue line in action.
A dozen police cars blocked side roads and funnelled southbound motorists towards a checkpoint where officers monitored where they had come from and where they were heading, ordering them not to enter central Sydney, where anti-lockdown protests were rumoured to be fermenting.
I must have stared too intrusively at this pseudo-paramilitary operation because a young constable approached me and asked where I was going.
“I’m afraid we haven’t decided yet,” I told her, nodding at the dog. “Well, no more than 5km from home,” she said.
“And why is that?” I asked, with the simple-minded look that is never far from my face.
“To keep everyone safe,” she said. “It’s the medical advice. Just do it.”
But it wasn’t medical advice, was it? Many of us questioned that claim from the start, wondering what part of a medical degree teaches you the maximum range of personal travel in an epidemic, or explains how to control infection when driving alone in your car or playing golf in a howling gale, or defines the epidemiological distinction between standing up and sitting on a barstool as a vector in viral transmission. But the carefully curated invisibility of that “advice” made it impossible to scrutinise or challenge, which was precisely the point.
What the jumped-up mandarins were in fact relying on has recently been exposed, thanks to this newspaper’s Damon Johnston and his relentless efforts to discover what guided Victoria’s world-champion lockdown.
American media magnate William Randolph Hearst (or sometimes George Orwell, sometimes Lord Northcliffe) is reputed to have described news as “something someone doesn’t want printed”, and Johnston’s two-year Freedom of Information battle and subsequent reporting is a glorious example of the kind of work neglected by so many of our jejune, incurious journalists, who turned themselves into shameful megaphones to amplify government propaganda. And to no one’s surprise, they continue to ignore or dismiss these revelations.
So instead of sound medical reasoning – and I will eat my old face mask if anyone who participated in the daily Covid scaremongering cares to produce that compelling “advice” – our lives were devastated on the strength of opinion polling and focus groups, populated largely, I suspect, by public servants on extended tea breaks at home on full pay.
An early enthusiast for China’s Belt and Road servility training, Victoria’s Premier adopted Xi Jinping’s brutal response to the first signs of the pandemic and continued it long after other regimes had abandoned lockdowns as ineffective and fantastically destructive.
The Daniel Andrews government’s taxpayer-funded polling on COVID-19 lockdown measures was about the Premier’s “own standing”, says Victorian Shadow Finance Minister Jess Wilson. Her comments come after a… shock revelation showed polling was used by the Victorian government throughout the pandemic years, which sought to monitor the public’s reaction More
Some commentators and cartoonists painted him as a ruthless dictator, a few grudgingly acknowledging that he was at least resolute in following his path. “Leadership is doing what is right,” he said. “Whether I’m criticised or praised, that is not my concern.” That’s true leadership, all right, and he made no apologies for it.
Those noble sentiments are now revealed to be – oh, what’s the word? – absolute bollocks. The fearsome dictator turns out to have been a puppet, dancing on the strings manipulated by pollsters to protect his livelihood, while forcing thousands into the misery of unemployment, or worse.
But let’s not concentrate on one man, however egregious his performance. For leadership as we once understood it has vanished almost entirely from our polity, all over the land and at all levels. It’s likely fair to conclude that the other premiers, chief ministers and senior federal politicians were equally reliant on focus groups to underwrite and shape their lunacy, sharing the results and patting each other on the back in solidarity as they were locking us up. Perhaps that’s what they were doing in the national cabinet, for it seemed to achieve nothing else.
History is strewn with examples of the irrationality of crowds, which is why we look to men and women of great character and vision for leadership, to guide the masses away from the folly they incline towards in difficult times.
But politics, confirming its modern characterisation as show business for ugly people, is increasingly driven by popularity, not wisdom or integrity.
A once honourable calling, a gift of service to your community, has mutated into an unedifying dash to board the gravy train. Politicians’ salaries here are now among the highest in the world, as are those of the bureaucrats who pander to them. Generous expenses, living away from home allowances, chauffeurs, secretarial staff, and a fawning coterie of aides lining up, snouts twitching, for their turn at the trough; yes, it’s a wonderful life indeed.
No wonder the mediocrities will say or do anything to secure, cement and prolong their tenure. And given they lack an adequate moral compass, we shouldn’t be amazed to find them navigating by public opinion. They dissemble their way into office and reward the lobbyists and assorted vested interests who help install them, while betraying the voters who fall for their promises. Out of office, ex-politicians are parachuted into lucrative sinecures, prestigious positions filled before anyone else learns they’re vacant.
None of this, while disappointing, is news to anyone who has tracked the decline in quality and corresponding rise in malfeasance of our representatives.
More alarming is what the secret polling reveals about the respondents. If it’s accurate, then despair is the appropriate response, for it suggests a citizenry malleable and terrified, ready to hand over their childlike trust to the charlatans who offer the illusion of safety.
Fear paralyses rational thought processes; it’s why so few cool heads appear during a crisis. (Masks seem to have the same effect, judging by the sorry souls who still scuttle around our shopping centres glaring at the barefaced cheek of the unmasked.) Couple that to decades of damage to our education system, from kindy to university, and duping the ignorant becomes a worryingly simple task.
There’s no reason to believe Victorians are more gullible than the rest of their compatriots (although the standard of brainwashing they were subjected to was undoubtedly best on ground); so if similar research was conducted on the populations of other states, similar results must have been generated, which explains (and almost justifies) the condescension of our leaders.
Perhaps arrogantly, certainly foolishly, when the Covid panic began I imagined my objections to the sustained, unprecedented assault on our civil liberties reflected a sizeable proportion of mainstream opinion, bolstered by the Australian Human Rights Commission bravely speaking out in defence of our freedoms (sorry, needed a little joke there to lighten the mood).
But the Victorian polling has slapped the scales from my eyes.
Amid all the previously unimaginable outrages I can’t forget the people sleeping in their cars at state borders, banned from returning to their homes; others (I was one of them) were forbidden to visit dying parents or children; this newspaper published pitiful photographs of elderly couples, separated for their own good, pressing their hands together each side of a care-home window. Does any of that still sound reasonable to anyone? Should we just forget about it all until next time?
The truly frightening, and profoundly depressing, thing is that even as the evidence accumulates to show the futility of lockdowns, curfews, social distancing, QR codes, contact tracing and other contrived mechanisms to “keep us safe”; even as the cost of shutting so many businesses, paying people to hide at home, building unnecessary quarantine facilities and ramping up brutal police tactics nears half a trillion dollars; even after enforced isolation shattered mental health, particularly among children who lost vital years of schooling and socialisation; yes, even after all this suffering, you know the politicians would do it again in a heartbeat, confident that many of us would vote them back in just as eagerly.
It’s heartening to hear the growing number of voices demanding a royal commission, but so long as those complicit in this authoritarian, self-aggrandising deception remain in power, the chance of any worthwhile investigation into the horrors of our pandemic response remains remote, for they know full well what even the most cursory examination would uncover.
The establishment of a thorough, impartial inquiry would require those craven politicians to be honest, or as shortsighted as the Christmas-loving turkeys who continue to elect them. My own tiny focus group says they’re far too cunning to let that happen.
STEVE WATERSON SENIOR WRITER
What if the CCP just decide to kill every non ethnic Chinese Australian out of hand? There are only 25 million of us. Mao killed more of their own.
That is entirely possible.
Hence the importance of creating a serious deterrence in a short space of time. If Australia was to be flooded with weapons and the CCP were to start moaning in international forums about Australia’s disregard for law and order and obligations on weapons controls. Then you would know that the deterrence was finding its mark. Pretty much if they start carrying on like Thancho, it’s working!!
Beyond that, it’s making it as costly as possible early on. Returning only children in body bags from thousands of miles away isn’t going to play well domestically.
Good Doc Faustus, the reason why the delay is occurring is because Labor and the Greens don’t know what the phuck they are doing.
They’ve floated the kite to the public, and found opposition, vehement opposition. Even among black fellas.
I am now doubting the referendum will happen this year, if at all. But it won’t stop the states from adopting this abortion of an idea.
Steve Waterson has written brilliantly for the last 2 years about the criminal and immoral nature of lockdowns and our politicians and bureaucrats that enforced it.
And this phucking working group tinkering with the wording. What amount of dosh are they being paid?
What a weird race day – without the leader in the Melbourne jockeys premiership (Jamie Kah, 54 wins) and her nearest competitor (Craig Williams, 34 wins), both injured in a race fall last Saturday at Flemington and missing today’s Golden Slipper ($5m) day at Rosehill and All Star Mile ($5m) day at Moonee Valley.
Kah is still in Royal Melbourne Hospital after spending the first two days in an induced coma. Only an extended injury layoff will prevent her from breaking her own record for any Melbourne jockey of 100 wins in a season and taking her second Melbourne jockeys premiership.
China isn’t going to invade Australia and it’s not an enemy of Australia, while not being a friend, either.
The reality is that there are at least 2 million Chinese in Australia and the vast majority are loyal to China, irrespective of the complaxion of it’s Government.
So.
If the Federal Government is planning on being part of a War on China, it must have contingency plans in place for these 2 million people.
If it doesn’t, then it shouldn’t be part of any such plans.
Watch this excellent speech by Mr BridgenUK MP, on vaccine policy in the UK before Youtube take it down here, they’ve already removed an earlier post.
Yes. I mentioned last night’s warm velvet as an Indian Summer evening. I think the term comes from America, but the woke these days have sent it to the forgettery. Seasons have always been variable, world-wide. In 2006 when living in the UK we drove through snowdrifts in rural Lancaster in late April.
rickwsays:
March 18, 2023 at 12:06 pm
The full spectrum of responses finishing with 200k organised militia and 100-200k disorganised militia would make invasion a headache for any party that can still invade after they’ve been nuked.
Exactly. From what I have seen of the CCP, they are likely to be quite concerned about the militia, and at least initially would struggle to respond.
The “organised militia” operate in groups of up to 100 in the bush. The “disorganised militia” operate in small cells (three to five strong) in the cities and major towns.
The organised militia make movement other than in large groups around the countryside expensive (Hello GM 100). The disorganised militia pick off individuals (Hello Heydrich) and small groups in urban areas.
Someone already posted that on the last page.
If you didn’t bother to read it on Page 1, why would you expect anyone to read it on Page 2?
Are the colossal amounts of unreadable WordWalls spammed onto NewCat the reason for the continual problems?
Top Endersays:
March 18, 2023 at 12:19 pm
I’m Cletus and so is my friend.
I thought you would be Illustrious, and your friends Invincible and Indefatigable.
Milton F:
After the Revolution, there will be a dreadful accounting for these perverts.
What if the CCP just decide to kill every non ethnic Chinese Australian out of hand? There are only 25 million of us. Mao killed more of their own.
Why kill when you can have a fresh, untapped, supply of labour? .. lotza menial/manual labour tasks will still need to be dun so why not use what is available ..?.. the Uyghur solution revisited .!
But it’s not a change to the Constitution and can always be legislated away.
A Referendum on a Constitutional change is most likely there for all time.
Only another Referendum could snag its teeth, but Referendums are rare and costly.
Stopping this one now before it gets going is the very best way forward.
NO Referendum – best outcome. Let the States do their worst.
Vote NO if the Feds attempt to pass one. It’s a suicide note for our sovereignty.
Eliminating any collaborators……
The disorganised militia pick off individuals (Hello Heydrich) and small groups in urban areas.
That’s just stupid.
Heydrich was murdered by Partisans, not Czechs or Slovaks, the murder was well planned, and massacres followed.
You want that for Australia?
You’re an idiot.
Because it’s Saturday afternoon…
Medieval Movie Poster.
Black Ball
I am now doubting the referendum will happen this year, if at all. But it won’t stop the states from adopting this abortion of an idea.
Victoria will lead the way, if (big if) the other states are wise, they will drag the chain to see how it works there. The lobbyists will be too impatient to hold back until all states are signed up. They collectively will probably make such a mess of it in Vicco as to deter the other states from following on.
Ed Casesays:
March 18, 2023 at 12:59 pm
Steve Waterson has written a splendid article in today’s Australian illustrating the complicity of so many in the horrors of the government’s response to Covid:
Someone already posted that on the last page.
If you didn’t bother to read it on Page 1, why would you expect anyone to read it on Page 2?
Are the colossal amounts of unreadable WordWalls spammed onto NewCat the reason for the continual problems?
Nah, the problem is idiot trolls like you.
Now about that Curtin evidence ……
Ed Case has just argued that Reinhardt Heydrich should not have been assassinated.
Tell us more.
On Poot, fugitive from justice:
The ICC is fairly coy about the actual offences – presumably an argued breach of Article 24 of the Geneva Convention – although it does make clear that the warrant is issued for political purposes.
In any event, it is deeply unlikely that Our Vlad is ever going to be ushered into a small room at some international terminal:
Which covers 97.3% of Putin’s likely overseas destinations.
Calli:
The sandstorm needs more sand, Calli. Some are able to work out what’s going on and need to be blinded.
Heydrich was murdered by Partisans, not Czechs or Slovaks, the murder was well planned, and massacres followed.
You want that for Australia?
You’re an idiot.
Classic head case.
Heydrich was murdered by Partisans, not Czechs or Slovaks, the murder was well planned, and massacres followed.
Richard Cranium’s Google-fu has collapsed into irrelevance.
From Wiki:
Heydrich was mortally wounded in Prague on 27 May 1942 as a result of Operation Anthropoid. He was ambushed by a team of Czech and Slovak soldiers who had been sent by the Czechoslovak government-in-exile to kill the Reich-Protector; the team was trained by the British Special Operations Executive.
Farmer Gez:
She’d offered to hold the chickens?
And his legal -fu has also collapsed.
A foreign secret police general, killed in an occupied country by soldiers of that country, is killed in action, not murdered.
If the massacres are happening anyway, best to make them as difficult and expensive as possible, as this delays things…. refer Solzhenitzen in the Gulag Archipelago…. ‘ oh how we burned in the camps…..’
Support for the International Criminal Court
Thankyou P
Just a reminder.
This is the guy that needs Trump arrested.
Biden touching girls compilation (RAW CSPAN FOOTAGE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4PLSPvJ9BY
Trained in the UK by The Baker Street Irregulars, supported fully by the BSC and Intrepid. The following reprisals were horrendous and conducted throughout Nazi occupied territories. Literally thousands murdered by the enraged SS.
Exactly Boambee John ! ! !
Partisans my foot . . .
Operation Anthropoid was initiated by František Moravec, head of the Czechoslovak intelligence services, with the knowledge and approval of the Czechoslovak government-in-exile, led by Edvard Beneš. Beneš,
Jozef Gab?ík and Jan Kubiš were Staff Sergeants from Czechoslovakia’s army-in-exile.
I’ve studied and read a lot about this famous assassination from WWII, and your brief summary is spot on.
Someone already posted that on the last page.
Who cares cockhead?
Ed Casesays:
March 18, 2023 at 12:59 pm
Steve Waterson has written a splendid article in today’s Australian illustrating the complicity of so many in the horrors of the government’s response to Covid:
Someone already posted that on the last page.
If you didn’t bother to read it on Page 1, why would you expect anyone to read it on Page 2?
Sorry Ed,
Just didn’t notice it in previous post.
Old Ozzie:
It looks like any depositor in a bank in Australia could be told tomorrow that “You have an account with us, and you are a member of ********** Organisation. We have decided your views of ********* are incompatible with our Statement of Social Harmony. Therefore we have transferred your funds to a competitor – The Greater Bank of Thunderbox.”
splutter splutter splutter.
The ABC:
In Banking news today, The Greater Bank of Thunderbox has gone into receivership and all your money…. *is gone*.
Now someone tell me why it can’t happen.
Not won’t happen.
If the massacres are happening anyway, best to make them as difficult and expensive as possible, as this delays things….
We’re still talking ’bout Heydrich, right?
Okay.
There had been no massacres under Heydrich, nor any unrest.
He was traveling in an open top car when he was murdered.
He wasn’t murdered by Militia, the Occupation had been welcomed by Slovaks and Germans who had been repressed by Czechs for 20 years.
Even the Czechs themselves welcomed it.
Things changed after Heydrich was murdered, and not for the better.
They were under the gun for the next 48 years.
Thank you to all any any Cats who cut&paste wordwalls. I’ve got no doubt it’s thoroughly in breach of copyright and paywall, but I thoroughly appreciate it.
Vicki, Dover, Zulu, Tom… don’t stop.
Ed: up yer bum.
JMHsays:
March 18, 2023 at 11:32 am
chrislsays:
March 18, 2023 at 11:18 am
A controlled burn has got away at Eastern View on The Great Ocean Rd
Choppers and planes circling.
A controlled burn is like a controlled fart. They can both turn to sh1t in a matter of seconds.
The only controlled fire is one that is out and I don’t trust it even then.
The Czechs AND Slovaks WELCOMED German conquest and occupation.
My god.
Meme;
https://substack.com/redirect/ec87d51d-8507-490e-a659-fe6c3f37311e?j=eyJ1IjoiaG85YmoifQ.bMnuNm5GLk5MFSCvcs0G5r0y-jYhpNwjaZVrL0QBwGM
Nelson_Kidd-Playerssays:
March 18, 2023 at 10:04 am
Shouldn’t we wait until after the 21st to assess the potential greatness of any Indian summer?
Not really as the Autumn months in Australia are grouped as March, April and May.
Correct, in SA we sometimes called them ‘prescription burns’ and it was a good analogy … they were done to address an existing issue (high fuel loads), but sometimes the prescription caused adverse effects if its own.
BTW, the current banking imbroglio has parallels to wildfire management – trying to centrally plan complex systems to prevent ‘fires’ seems to work at first, but the fires are necessary for a healthy ecosystem, and suppressing small ones just lets dry tinder build up for a later conflagration…. whether a fire, or a banking crisis.
Bruce O’Nuke:
Obama has that one won by a country mile.
Biden, Carter, and Bush were merely incompetent people who didn’t give a shit.
Obama is a Machiavellian monster, with a mean streak a mile wide. His aim in life is to destroy the US and it looks like he’ll do precisely that.
Obama is a reincarnation of Stalin and Mao.
The uniparty in action.
We need reminding how our rulers are now hiding behind their appointees.
Andrews hides behind VicPol.
Morrison hides behind “National Cabinet”.
Premiers hide behind “CHO”s.
Aboriginal Affairs minister hides behind Elders.
Voice hides behind Uluru Statement From The Heart.
Referendum hides behind Working Group.
Agriculture Minister hides behind Consulting Panel To End Live Export.
Treasurer hides behind Reserve Bank.
Reserve Bank hides behind WMF.
Customs and Immigration hide behind UN.
Pfizer and Moderna hide behind WHO.
…
For the real tell, think of how many times over the last three years the premiers and PMs have fronted the press in a polo or tieless shirt- or shell jacket- and put their palms up, and effectively said “Hey, it’s awful and unlawful, but there’s nothing I can do. I’m just like you, see? It’s really Ghabreisus and Lowe and Zhelenskyyy and Sutton who command us both, see?! I’m just like you with my facemask and labradoodle on my lap, see?”
…even Albatrotsky in his Aviators is signalling, “hey, this AUKUS thing is bigger than me, but hey us average ockers got these cool free sunnies when we put our deposit down”
A little on Edvard Benes.
He denied any complicity in Heydrich’s murder, despite having insisted on going thru with it, against all advice, so he was a total lowlife.
But, he exceeded himself in the Prague Uprising:
Role in the Prague uprising
During the Prague uprising, which started on 5 May 1945, the city was surrounded by Wehrmacht and SS units, the latter in a vengeful mood.
The Czech resistance appealed to the First Division of the German-sponsored Russian Liberation Army commanded by General Sergei Bunyachenko to switch sides, promising them that they be granted asylum in Czechoslovakia and would not be repatriated to the Soviet Union, where they faced execution for treason for fighting for Germany.
As the Czech resistance lacked heavy arms such as tanks and artillery, the First Division was badly needed to help hold Prague.
General Buynachenko and his First Division defected to the Allied side, where it played a key role in holding off the German forces intent on retaking Prague and prevented the SS from massacring the people of Prague.
However, when General Buyachenko learned on 7 May that he and his men would not be offered asylum after all, the First Division abandoned Prague in order to surrender to the American 3rd Army. Despite the promise that the men of First Division would be granted asylum, Beneš instead repatriated the First Division, and the rest of the ROA men in Czechoslovakia who were captured by his government, to the Soviet Union.
Boambee Johnsays:
March 18, 2023 at 11:44 am
callisays:
March 18, 2023 at 11:22 am
“Illustrious” is another meaning, BJ.
Pretty sure it has nothing to do with Paraclete, which has a different, legal meaning in Gk.
Thanks Calli.
I’m a bit rusty but iirc, ‘Paraclete’ is a descriptor for the Holy Spirit: “One who comes around (or beside) to encourage.”
Obama is a Machiavellian monster, with a mean streak a mile wide. His aim in life is to destroy the US and it looks like he’ll do precisely that.
Obama is a reincarnation of Stalin and Mao.
This is just nuts.
Obama is a half black Flamer who married a black Dude.
That’s his sole claim to fame.
Johnny Rotten says:
March 18, 2023 at 2:22 pm
Indeed, but it irks me to go with a man-made defintition when there’s a natural one in plain sight! (And I’m still hoping for a beach visit in the coming week.)
@BBS, how’s the water in your parts?
Why waste money on AUKUS & Tomahawks when we already have the solution .. LOL!
https://postimg.cc/670MxRrG
Black Ball:
That’s the way to bet, BB.
They are waking up to the fact the voice will fail, so they’ll bring it on, on a State basis. And with there being only Tasmania? as the Liberal holdout after the NSW elections, they can tear up the rule book, and write a new one.
And why not have a go? There’s not a Democratic people in the world that has shown any spine at all in resisting the Socialist steamroller.
Yellen Casts Doubt of Covering All Depositors
“We have a serious problem here. Depositors in a bank are NOT risking their money as an investor in a hedge fund. They expect honesty and stability. If the bank is trading and doubles its money, it belongs to the shareholders – not the depositors. Likewise, a loss belongs to the shareholders and that means 100% of all deposits MUST be covered – PERIOD!
Even Senator Lankford fails to understand that simply because a Chinese national is a depositor it does NOT justify defaulting on them. That would mean that all foreigners should remove their money from the United States. It would also be against the Constitution. When this nation was formed, we adopted TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION and rejected the monarchy system of jurisdiction. If you killed someone in Paris but you were British, the French would arrest you and could not charge or punish you because you were the “property” of the King of England. They would send you back to your king and explain what you did and it was up to your king to determine what to do.
We adopted TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION whereas if you were British but killed an American, you stood trial in America and they rejected the idea that you were the property of the King of England. ALL depositors, regardless of their origin, MUST be treated the same as any citizen. You cannot have it both ways. So, sorry. Senator Lankford, you are wrong. We MUST cover even a deposit by Putin or the Communist Party of China. Otherwise, ALL foreign investors should also sell ALL their holdings of US debt – PERIOD!
Yellen has cast doubt on this policy and it is a warning that all banks have this same crisis in the collapse of long-term debt because of this endless pit into which we are throwing money called Ukraine. We stand NOTHING to gain from this insanity. It is nothing more than the personal vindictiveness of the Neocons who have transformed Ukraine into an Anti-Russia spearhead and American foreign policy into the aggressor in the quest for World War III. All Neocons should be arrested for treason. Only Congress can declare war. This is a proxy war that has not been declared and has no benefit to the American people or even the Ukrainian people who have been forced to flee their homes in this battle to conquer Russia.
All Depositors in Every Bank Must be Made 100% Whole – it is the Shareholders of Banks that Lose in Such Situations
What the Biden Administration has paid Ukraine would have covered all the outstanding Student Loans and even the failed banks!
AMERICA FIRST!”
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/govt-incompetence/yellen-casts-doubt-of-covering-all-depositors/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS
the Occupation had been welcomed by Slovaks and Germans
Richard Cranium is now on the side of the Sudeten Germans, and supports the Munich Agreement.
You have to wonder why the 251s want the VOICE .. they already do as they like now .. FFS!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11870035/Native-title-separating-residents-beach-Burrum-Heads-Queensland-leaves-locals-furious.html
Ed Casesays:
March 18, 2023 at 2:32 pm
Obama is a Machiavellian monster, with a mean streak a mile wide. His aim in life is to destroy the US and it looks like he’ll do precisely that.
Obama is a reincarnation of Stalin and Mao.
This is just nuts.
Obama is a half black Flamer who married a black Dude.
That’s his sole claim to fame.
If that was his sole claim to fame, no-one would give a sh1t about him, but he has spent at least the last 14 years actively working for the destruction of the US.
You are an idiot. That is your sole claim to fame.
Unless you can come up with the evidence of Curtin’s alleged treachery.
Don’t have a reference, but I did read that it was the savagery of the Nazi reprisals, for the death of Heydrich, that led to the end of the policy of the targeted murder of Nazi senior officers.
A controlled burn is like a controlled fart. They can both turn to sh1t in a matter of seconds.
Genuinely funny!
A foreign secret police general, killed in an occupied country by soldiers of that country, is killed in action, not murdered.
The “murdered” thing is particularly stupid, even by head case standards.
Little Bloke has just discovered Tin Tin. Think I need to get him the boxed set.
Little Bloke has just discovered Tin Tin. Think I need to get him the boxed set.
Nice, I remember borrowing Tin Tin books from the library at Puckapunyal in the 1980’s as a early teen. Was absolutely fascinated by his adventures and the librarian somehow sourced the books on loan from other libraries when I ran out of the stash she had.
Deathblow? Doubtful.
Weaken the dollar, definitely. Fundamental changes. And the CCP right in the thick of it. If China can find a way to reconcile with India, then a huge market and resource block will consolidate. While Biden sinks the US into debt via wallowing in the Ukraine cess pit.
https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2023/03/iran-saudi-rapprochement-will-deal-a-deathblow-to-the-dollar/
rickw
Has he seen Asterix & Obelix yet? That was my other interest at the time.
To those who have mentioned “Indian Summers” — you have to realise that many expressions our age group are in the habit of using no longer mean anything to Australians younger than us. A year or so ago Perth was having a glorious Indian Summer, with temperatures in the high twenties, a cloudless sky, little or no wind, the sort of day when it is good just being alive, and I used the term when I was talking to a lady aged about 40, she looked puzzled and said “What’s Indian about it?”
I used the term when I was talking to a lady aged about 40, she looked puzzled and said “What’s Indian about it?”
Obviously not a cricket fan, commentators used to love the term.
Pretty pathetic Dutton carrying water for Kean rubbish. He really doesn’t seem to want and build bridges with former supporters.
Amazing.
https://twitter.com/WowTerrifying/status/1636680197561876480
The following reprisals were horrendous and conducted throughout Nazi occupied territories. Literally thousands murdered by the enraged SS.
Himmler, personally, selected the village of Lidice for retribution after being informed the son of the Mayor was an active member of the Czech resistance ……
Chris Munce between 2 statuesque beauties before the running of the Golden Slipper. He’d be knee high to a grasshopper. Champion jockey however. The ladies themselves were absolutely stunning.
Speaking of beauty, have a look at Delta Goodrem on the front of Women’s Weekly.
Himmler himself is the personification of the devil.
I can understand Dutton having to pretend to support Kean.
I just hope the reality is that behind the scenes he is wheeling and dealing to ensure Kean does not become next leader. If he does NSW Liberals won’t get back in as long as he is there. He is toxic to Conservatives. Those Conservatives going to switch to One Nation and the Craig Kelly independents and LDP groups.
That footage of the other UK MP’s walking out as Bridgen rose to speak about the Vax shows how much trouble we are in with our politicians.
Reminded me of recent OZ Senate vote about mandates which went 31 to 5. The 5 being Antic, Babet, Roberts, Rennick and Canavan. Not one other Lib or Nat was even present ! How does that happen without them actually being instructed to not be there.
In good Vax mandate news WA Health have dropped theirs. Qld still has in place.
Not sure when due to take place but there is still a well backed up Dr’s mandate case pending v Qld Health. The original case involved 15 Drs but only 2 were employed directly by Qld Health. That case was dropped but the 2 remaining Dr’s have launched own case.
One thing for sure is that Qld CHO will not want to give evidence and has so far avoided two cases. Personally I would pay good money to see a well briefed KC cross examine him.
The head of global markets at Credit Suisse is a mentally ill “gender fluid” man who sometimes believes he wakes up as a woman.
The factional stuff can wait till they’re in Opposition. Not long now.
Reminded me of recent OZ Senate vote about mandates which went 31 to 5. The 5 being Antic, Babet, Roberts, Rennick and Canavan. Not one other Lib or Nat was even present ! How does that happen without them actually being instructed to not be there.
Yeah, yeah, Liberal Man bad!
What about the 31 from Labor who voted for Mandates?
They get a Fee Pass from you?
Chris Waller trains Shinzo to win the Slipper with Ryan Moore on board. Brings him to tears which must mean a lot to him, considering he trained the champion Winx.
….. and the children of those slaughtered or exterminated in Nazi camps went on to suffer appalling deaths , medical experimentation and terrible hardships, after being separated from their families. Truly a horror story.
There’s plenty of Himmler types around now, they just lack the opportunity and means.
The “Let Women Speak” has started in Melbourne. Being Melbourne, I’m worried there’ll be violence from the perverts and their supporters, and the Vic plod will stand back and allow it.
Here is the latest Cassie:
Masked men performed Nazi salutes in Melbourne’s CBD while they crashed a demonstration between pro-transgender and anti-transgender activists.
Dozens of protesters gathered outside Parliament House on Spring St about midday.
The rally attracted a heavy police presence in the area including officers from the public order response team and the mounted branch.
The group of men, dressed in black, performed multiple Nazi salutes while holding a sign that read: “Destroy Paedo Freaks.”
Among the crowd was neo-Nazi leader Thomas Sewell, who founded the far-right European Australia Movement.
Sewell, 29, was convicted and sentenced to 150 hours of community work in January after punching a Channel 9 security guard.
Last year he duped a Melbourne beer hall into hosting a celebration of Adolf Hitler’s birthday.
Prior to their arrival, Kellie-Jay Keen, a British trans-exclusionary women’s activist, had been speaking on the Spring St steps.
Her visit attracted supporters as well as counter-protesters.
Ms Keen, also known as Posie Parker, has been travelling across Australia and New Zealand on a tour titled “Let Women Speak”.
Her tour hosts public events to discuss transgender laws and policy and has been sponsored by Binary Australia — an organisation dedicated to the idea that “biological sex plays an important role in our society”.
Ms Keen’s gatherings have caused occasionally violent clashes between trans-inclusionary activists and her own fans across the country, with a strong police presence at each rally.
Over the past week, Ms Keen has held events in Sydney, Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide.
On Saturday she was surrounded by people holding signs emblazoned with slogans including “men can never be lesbians” and “woman is a fact not a gender identity”.
Other notable presences at the rally included the divisive Katherine Deves, known for her vehement campaigning against trans women being allowed in women-only spaces.
Ms Deves shared pictures of the rally to social media, calling her opposition “anti-woman protesters” and observing “armed and mounted police holding back aggressive protesters to protect the women and supporters at a women’s rights rally”.
The protesting groups, separated by dozens of Victoria Police officers, hurled abuse at each other as tensions escalated.
One angry protester, who was riling up another rival group, was seen being kicked and having her hair pulled.
Victoria Police said in a statement: “There is a highly visible police presence in the area to ensure there are no breaches of the peace and to keep the community safe.”
Paramedics treated several distressed protesters after they were pepper sprayed by police.
Kellie-Jay Keen was angrily confronted by opposing protesters as police were forced to separate the two.
One group of organisers for the push against Ms Keen, the Campaign Against Racism and Fascism, posted on Facebook.
“Let’s make it clear that Melbourne is an anti-fascist, anti-sexist and pro-LGBTI town,” the post read.
“The growing confidence of the far-right internationally, and their use of transphobia and sexism to recruit to their ranks and as crucial issues they fight for must be opposed.
“Posie Parker is actively trying to build links between these far-right forces and broader anti-trans activists around the world.
“This is unacceptable. If we want to counter these politics, and the confidence of the right to build around them, then we need to take to the streets.”
As crowds began to disperse, a small group of anti-vax protesters remained on the steps of Parliament House, spreading inaudible chants.
Nut case,
I was not surprised by Labor and Greens voting to keep the mandates or at least not legislate against them. Unfortunately it looks like Labor, and in the Senate particularly Senator Gallagher will defend TGA etc no matter what the evidence. They are prepared to sacrifice people’s health rather than let Senators like Rennick or Roberts have a win.
However I was shocked that there was a clear direction from Lib Nats for all the others to not even vote. At least if they have fronted up with say 20 more than the usual 3 they could have pretended they cared. All they did was reinforce the view of that we have a Uniparty. Just another reason for many to switch to other parties.
“What about the 31 from Labor who voted for Mandates?
They get a Fee Pass from you?”
Too hot to be rioting in Melbournibad. If only they had some decent beaches.
Other notable presences at the rally included the divisive Katherine Deves, known for her vehement campaigning against trans women being allowed in women-only spaces.
why is that divisive? Fuk I hate the meja.
She’s “divisive” because they say so. So there.
In the land outside the psycho bubble, she’s perfectly coherent and sensible.
Nice, I remember borrowing Tin Tin books from the library at Puckapunyal in the 1980’s as a early teen.
Does anyone know if Tin Tin has been “wokified”? Happy to buy new, but if its been messed with I’ll find an older version.
Speaking of the meja, I will never buy a ‘news’ paper but I’ll thumb thru one at Macca’s sometimes. Funny how they put them upside down in shops now to stop you from having a quick glance.
BTW thanks for posting BB
Has he seen Asterix & Obelix yet? That was my other interest at the time.
Not yet, I was thinking I might get him some, one of each in English and French. Had same at school, and it seems to have helped my reading quite a bit.
Milton and calli, I call it the ‘gratuitous adjective’ – totally unnecessary but it does give you an indication that the writer is biased.
Yes I’m sure they’d like to write a full denunciation (for starters) but have to settle for a ‘gratuitous adjective’ .
I was not surprised by Labor and Greens voting to keep the mandates or at least not legislate against them.
Not surprised by Labor, so you give them a Free Pass.
Liberals, you’re gonna hammer them, by cracky, even though you’ve never voted Liberal in your life.
Sitting around doing pump motor run. Alignment came out ok. Flange faces parallel within 0.001” top to bottom and 0.006” side to side. Concentric within 0.001 top to bottom and 0.006” side to side. Horizontal was more difficult, no jacking screws so chasing it by loosening bolts and tapping.
Sure does, rugbyskier.
I take it that the writer is quite happy to see men in ladies’ toilets, boys vicitimising girls in unisex school loos, men still with testicles and penises competing in womens’ sports and taking prizes, men raping inmates at womens’ prisons.
If not, why not?
And if they all resisted to the death, wherever they were, if every occupied town became the Warsaw ghetto, in the very least their deaths would have seriously disrupted the nazi war machine.
Perhaps they would have won.
I have akready decided wgar I will do if tyrants come for me.
Rick.
Pard.
No one cares.
Not surprised by Labor, so you give them a Free Pass.
Or a Fee Pass dickhead, as you posted earlier. You pull others up on spelling.
Yeah, yeah, Liberal Man bad!
What about the 31 from Labor who voted for Mandates?
They get a Fee Pass from you?
Rick.
Pard.
No one cares.
I’m bored!
The Sunbather and I voted this morning in a pre-poll — I just walked in voted 1 on each ballot and walked out. The Sunbather usually very quiet and staid spoke candidly to the Labor party candidate telling her that Labor only tell lies, that you can’t believe anything they say, he also asked her where the Federal member for our electorate is given he’s written several letters none of which have even acknowledge, he asked if that was she’d do if elected.
No sparing the Liberal candidate where was Matt Kean — she wanted to know if the Sunbather was a supporter to which he said “hardly – he’s useless just like the Education Minister” — he took three times as long to vote as I did. But he felt good having vented.
Huge effort to have one child This community’s quarter century without a newborn shows the scale of Japan’s population crisis
Let’s break down the insanity:
I take it that the writer is quite happy to see men in ladies’ toilets,
Strawman
boys vicitimising girls in unisex school loos,
Strawman
men still with testicles and penises competing in womens’ sports and taking prizes,
If the testicles and Penises were removed, you’d feel better, is that it?
…men raping inmates at womens’ prisons.
That’s not even a Strawman.
You think female inmates are all Third Wave Feminists, like you?
Richard Cranium
Yeah, yeah, Liberal Man bad!
What about the 31 from Labor who voted for Mandates?
They get a Fee Pass from you?
We know that the Liars are a bunch of would-be Himmlers, and they usually live up to expectations. We expect better of the Liberals, and are regularly disappointed.
When Kentaro Yokobori was born almost seven years ago, he was the first newborn in the Sogio district of Kawakami village in 25 years. His birth was like a miracle for many villagers.
What an individual and societal tragedy.
Rick.
Pard.
No one cares.
Stand by, in 10 minutes, the 1.5 hour mark vibration, temperature and noise data will be posted. Enthralling!
Watched a 2010 UK documentary on cousin marriage on Netflix.
One woman with three out of six children severely disabled by rare genetic diseases blamed the medicine given to her children by British doctors.
Okay.
Then had a look to see if Pakistan had similar problems as the result of consanguineous marriage.
Of course they do, in some villages with centuries of tribal and caste limits on who can marry, the levels of disability is horrendous.
Imran Khan wanted to ban cousin marriage.
article
The best writer on the pandemic. Blokes like this give me a bit of faith in journalists. Thanks rugbyskier (at 8:50am).
I think we should start throwing ‘divisive’ back at them.
I’d start with the ‘divisive’ Matt Kean.
Richard Cranium
Let’s break down the insanity:
I take it that the writer is quite happy to see men in ladies’ toilets,
Strawman
boys vicitimising girls in unisex school loos,
Strawman
Too hard for you to come up with some kind of logical argument?
Give it up, and go find the Curtin evidence.
Funny way of saying “the animals that turn up to protest Ms Keens gatherings have caused occasionally violent clashes”.
The sort of muck served up by ‘news’ papers may as well be written by A’I’ bots.
You’re being divisive, calli.
It is.
Special Ed was a reject algorithm and they sent him here.
We know that the Liars are a bunch of would-be Himmlers, and they usually live up to expectations. We expect better of the Liberals, and are regularly disappointed.
Here’s some genuine advice, SpongeBob:
Give up on the Liberals, you’re only ever going to be disappointed.
Get stuck into Labor instead.
Mme Zulu’s father served with the Dutch Resistance. Betrayed to the Gestapo, he survived interrogation, torture and imprisonment, before “liberation.”
He maintained to the end of his days no – one knew how they would react, until they found themselves in that situation.