1,622 thoughts on “Open Thread – Easter Weekend 8 April 2023”

  1. Selective policing is a serious problem in Australia.

    It’s in the top three. It’s a shit state of affairs.

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  2. Tinta:

    Dot what happened to that fellow that was supposed to have punched a horse I have been wondering what do you know?

    My understanding is that video showed he was pushing the horses head away. Yes, he had a clasped fist, but the video showed didn’t punch Neddy. He should have punched the sheila who was using the horse to push him with.

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  3. thefrollickingmole at 6:27 – sounds like the UK landed gentry. Must be the smell of hay.

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  4. Selective policing is a serious problem in Australia.

    Couple of Police Commissioners handsomely rewarded. And Chief Medical Officers, who most people would not even have heard of 5 years ago.

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  5. Good grief. Who have I offended now? Should I have put smiley face on the end of that last comment to soften the blow?

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  6. The New South Wales Energy Minister has issued a warning about the future of the state’s energy grid. According to Penny Sharpe, delayed energy projects and the closure of the country’s oldest power plant in 18 days will present major supply challenges.
    Maybe Ms Sharpe As A Blunt Knife could ask AGL nicely (with a big stick) to not close Liddell in 18 days time. It’s a thought.

    No need to use a stick, just offer to buy it from AGL seeing as they will not be using it unless that’s not exactly true. I wonder if AGL are closing down Liddell in order to cause shortages and then will demand subsidies from the government to re-open it.

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  7. I wonder if AGL are closing down Liddell in order to cause shortages and then will demand subsidies from the government to re-open it.

    Shortages alone will spike prices, whilst they will have to operate less assets. I’m sure that within AGL the analysis that shows a net benefit exists, with our without government intervening.

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  8. This from Michael Smith News — on the cartoon by Pauline Hansen. This particular organisation which claims to represent people with disabilities (obviously called upon by Labor to have a go) from which this mouthpiece speaks has been the leading activist/advocacy organisation trying to close down the places of employment of over 20,000 Australians with disabilities, particularly those with intellectual disability — its my humble view that it’s those people whose jobs are in jeopardy whose intellectual disabilities have for decades been abused, neglected and exploited by such organisations hell-bent on closing down their places of employment solely on ideological grounds.

    Our taxes at work, gatti.

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  9. Good grief. Who have I offended now? Should I have put smiley face on the end of that last comment to soften the blow?

    Never give up.
    Never surrender.
    Never soften the blow.
    Release your inner Rambo!

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  10. Cassie of Sydney:

    As far as I know, no one has been charged with animal cruelty, but that’s probably because, as with everything else, being on the far-left means they get a free pass, even when hurting animals.

    Do you know if they got anywhere identifying those idiots from photos, Cassie?

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  11. AGL are doing the “good thing” by promoting & enabling renewables without a plan B. And shareholders will cry crocodile tears at having to charge extraordinary amounts when supply becomes unreliable … who could have predicted such an outcome?

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  12. Shortages alone will spike prices, whilst they will have to operate less assets. I’m sure that within AGL the analysis that shows a net benefit exists, with our without government intervening.

    Nothing surer.

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  13. calli says: April 10, 2023 at 5:58 pm
    Today, to qualify for the mounted police in NSW no riding experience is required.

    In same-but-different news, both of the Household cavalry regiments train the riders from scratch – often inner-city ghetto or housing estate boys, from demographic or ethnicity that has never seen a horse.

    I’ve no objection to training people from ab-initio, that way there’s no bad habits or “I know better from Uncle Jack”.
    However they’ve gotta be trained properly. I’ll require quite some convincing that the Stasi horsemanship training is of the same quality as the Household cavalry.

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  14. Release your inner Rambo!

    Sorry, Bruce. All I can do at present is shake my head at the impotent malice driving the act.

    It reminds me of the group of pimply schoolgirls long ago waiting at the gate to catcall me. Why? Because they could. I shook my head then too.

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  15. Dot thank you for taking the trouble to answer my question. And CrazyGreyRanga — I believe you.

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  16. AGL is more or less controlled by Cannon Brookes.
    It’s absolutely dedicated to climate changy.

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  17. John Anderson on TikTok

    This is unbelievable

    FFS don’t tell dotty. His whole concept of evil state of Russia will be ruined.

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  18. 75% are ladeeeee police people, and apparently it is considered the best place for them is on horseback as it dampens down the hysteria.

    (Snigger)

    Turn up at the disco night with a pocket full of sugar cubes, and hooooo boy….

    Yeah and some booger sugar for the horse gals (older ones at uni are usually crazy).

    Confession time.
    I once drove through the Grampians in a VW Golf Gti dressed in a Hugo Boss half turtle neck sweater under a Hugo Boss suite with Ride of the Valkyries on the CD player.
    True story.

    Shoot.

    Me too almost as well, but in the Macedon Ranges.

    There is no boathouse at Mt Macedon.

    There is no boathouse at Mt Macedon.

    -Mike Tyson, Kid Rock, Donald Trump, Dana White

    Tyson – happy to be there! Kudasai senpai! Supa kawaii!

    Mr Rock – possibly munted. (Possibly?!)

    Trump – looks like he met his hero, Dana White.

    Dana – Morphing into Mini-Me.

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  19. FFS don’t tell dotty. His whole concept of evil state of Russia will be ruined.

    No Putin is pretty evil, he is ex KGB and was embedded with the Stasi.

  20. The New South Wales Energy Minister has issued a warning about the future of the state’s energy grid. According to Penny Sharpe, delayed energy projects and the closure of the country’s oldest power plant in 18 days will present major supply challenges.

    Otoh, she’s said Liddell’s closure will not result in higher power bills.

    What school of economics does she subscribe to?

    Meanwhile, the RBA is factoring in a 27% hike across the board over this & the next financial year to its inflation projections.

    Thank heavens we’re governed by top men & women in these challenging times.

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  21. Apparently, the average Australian is a fake aboriginal on welfare with a $150,000pa NDIS package.

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  22. She’s fun! You can see why Luigi doesn’t let her out much.

    Between Plibbers and Bowen it’s hard to be optimistic.

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  23. “This is unbelievable”

    Not really. Konstantin Kisin is no apologist for Putin or Russia, he grew up in the old Soviet Union/Russia and only moved to the UK in the 1990s. However, he understands the road that western governments are hurtling down with censorship and so on, that the West is quickly losing any moral authority when it comes to free speech and censorship.

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  24. No Putin is pretty evil, he is ex KGB and was embedded with the Stasi.

    Well, at least he wasn’t CIA.

    But you avoid the point. The west arresting thousands more social media “terrorists” than Russia? Nothing to see here, surely.

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  25. But you avoid the point. The west arresting thousands more social media “terrorists” than Russia? Nothing to see here, surely.

    No, it’s terrible and it is indefensible.

    There’s no need to bring up Russia.

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  26. Sharpe has no experience outside Uni, student politics and the ALP. She’s one of the far left of the party too. Look like an very unremarkable career outside out pushing her issues like her sexuality. How she got a role like the energy ministry is beyond me even for the ALP’s low standard, she shouldn’t be off the backbench.

    Her knowledge of economics would be scant at that. I see the ALP have out-Keaned the Liberals with this one, strap in NSW…

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  27. rickw says:
    April 10, 2023 at 7:10 pm
    I wonder if AGL are closing down Liddell in order to cause shortages and then will demand subsidies from the government to re-open it.

    Shortages alone will spike prices, whilst they will have to operate less assets. I’m sure that within AGL the analysis that shows a net benefit exists, with our without government intervening.

    I believe they have plans for extorting money from government on top of inflated electricity prices due to a scarcity they created. It’s a win/win for them and a lose/lose for everyone else.

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  28. the closure of the country’s oldest power plant in 18 days will present major supply challenges

    For emphasis, Cats: “major supply challenges”

    18 days is less than three weeks (yes, I checked) with another La Niña winter looming.

    HOP Time will feel righteous and wonderful but it won’t restore our previously cheap and reliable electrickery supply. You’ll just have to subsist on your $150,000pa NDIS package in the interim.

    Collectivism. You may not want it, but you will still be gifted with it and all of its wonderful stinky z-gradeness.

    Again.

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  29. I don’t watch the TV news, just the weather, when I remember. I turned it on tonight and guess what was the last ad before it came on. The Australian government spending our money to encourage people to “top up” their “protection”. They are still pushing the poison.

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  30. Rabz, here are some suggestions if you are looking for themes for the radio show:

    1. An out of character/genre or unusual song or recording from an established artist or band.

    2. A and B sides of hits, when music was published on 45s.

    3. Songs about place names

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  31. And if you’re not happy about freezing in the dark, feel free to take it up with Dr Mutton and The Beetrooter, those rock ribbed highly principled [that’s enough of that, Rabz – Dover]

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  32. North Quenthland predator news (the Courier Mail):

    A Far North resident has captured mazing images of the gruesome moment a wallaby was swallowed whole by a snake at a popular beach town.

    On Sunday night, Kevin McMahon shared images of the python consuming the large marsupial on social media.

    In no way is this unknown. Those things are more than capable of giving a special hug to critters the size of wallabies, and then dislocating their own jaws before putting said critters down the gullet.

    “Keep your cats inside at night Mission Beach residents,” he posted.

    No no, Mr McMahone. Send them out.

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  33. “There’s no need to bring up Russia.”

    Because it doesn’t suit your narrative dotty? Don’t pout.

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  34. Malicious prosecution is a tort or a civil wrong, which enables a person who is the subject of groundless and unjustified court proceedings to seek a civil claim for damages against their prosecutor.

    *Except* if said prosecutor is working at the behest of the state – recall that the best the Magistrate could make of my clear video evidence which showed the AFP admitting I did not commit the crimes they later charged me with – was to label their actions as ‘curious’.

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  35. How she got a role like the energy ministry is beyond me even for the ALP’s low standard, she shouldn’t be off the backbench.

    The ALP factions distribute the ministries.

    Competence doesn’t come into it, especially at state level.

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  36. 18 days is less than three weeks (yes, I checked) with another La Niña winter looming.

    I’m sure I saw it on the news about a month ago that La Niña was over. Surely, BOM would not lie to us?

    It feels like we are living in Scandinavia where they count sunny days per year in dozens. A tour guide in Faroe Islands informed us that they had seven sunny days per year and we were lucky to have one of them. I must admit it was spectacular until the sea mist started rolling in.

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  37. The police are not your friends they are the armed wing of the political elite.

    Factcheck: TRUE

    And the mounted police are the cavalry of said army – their horses are weapons of war, used to hunt down, monster and crush enemy infantry (aka peaceful protestors) – they aren’t there to do pony rides.

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  38. It’s a valid point but why bring it up?

    Are we going to flee to Russia? We lock people up when they’re small, Putin defenestrates the competition. Sure, plenty of us might be better off in Russia if we already speak Russian and have transferable skills.

    You could make a point how far we’ve fallen, but that is obvious.

    (I tend not to have faith in emigration anymore, a couple of the places I was interested in went full retard with COVID mania. Moving to a red state in the US would likely be better.)

    It’s horrible but unfortunately not remarkable. We just lived through an overt police state under a curfew. We still have not repealed the legislation that enabled this and most people have never heard of those statutes.

    All of the current complaining about government spying and so on was set up almost 20 years ago. Look up TIA if you are unfamiliar with it. It is so encompassing it is misanthropic and sociopathic.

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  39. REVEALED: The Real Reason Why Fake Woman Dylan Mulvaney Is Suddenly Everywhere

    The New York Post reported Friday that “executives at companies like Nike, Anheuser-Busch and Kate Spade, whose brand endorsements have turned controversial trans influencer Dylan Mulvaney into today’s woke ‘It girl,’ aren’t just virtue signaling.” Instead, they’re paying the modern-day equivalent of Mafia protection money, trying to keep the heat off their business: they’re hiring Dylan and making other displays of wokeness “because they have to — or risk failing an all-important social credit score that could make or break their businesses.” If they don’t inflict woke advertising campaigns on us, they’re liable to do damage to their Corporate Equality Index (CEI) score, which could be disastrous for their business.

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  40. To emphasise – The Pulkownik languished in prison for three weeks for not punching a horse. In NSW, in 2021.

    Yep, and I got a week in solitary, a year on bail, a 3 day trial and a $25,000 dollar legal bill for having my stationary car punched by a ‘road worker’.

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  41. Because it doesn’t suit your narrative dotty? Don’t pout.

    What’s “my narrative”? I love Victoria Nuland, I am free because I got the jab, I am glad I got the jab instead of ending up in ICU…

    Stop fantasising about the necessity of being paranoid.

    I am not your enemy. I am just disagreeable.

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  42. I think you should sue the ‘road worker’ if you have the money and time to burn.

    Follow it to the bitter end.

    Who was that guy? Inquirin’ minds wanna know and a lot of lickspittles and Quislings don’t want you to know.

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  43. Instead, they’re paying the modern-day equivalent of Mafia protection money, trying to keep the heat off their business: they’re hiring Dylan and making other displays of wokeness “because they have to — or risk failing an all-important social credit score that could make or break their businesses.

    That makes sense, sort of. Like a business version of a burqua – rape that one, not me. I’m one of you.

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  44. More Quenthland news from the CM:

    A Queensland psychotherapist

    What?

    who runs a practice helping patients with fast food addictions

    What?

    has been banned from giving treatment during sleepovers, or hosting overnight retreats where she will be on site, the watchdog has announced.

    WHAT?

    Karren-Lee Raymond, who trades as Karren-Lee Addictionology on Commercial Rd in Brisbane’s Teneriffe, must only practise from her rooms, according to an announcement by the state’s health ombudsman on March 29.

    Are her rooms next to a KFC?

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  45. Don’t attend rallies where Police Horses might be used. It’s not rocket science.

    Unrelated funfact:

    Horses fear unstable ground*, such as a seething mass of protestors who suddenly sit down on the roadway, particularly if there happens to be a significant number of marbles somehow present on the road surface in front of them.

    * which is why ‘waterjumps’ are the most challenging fences in event riding

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  46. All the storm/cyclone chasers that are worth listening to, reckon at least 2 years of an El Nino in the offing later in the year.

    April Cyclones are not uncommon and means we are having a late finish this year.

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  47. I think you should sue the ‘road worker’ if you have the money and time to burn.

    You think I trust the legal system enough to spin the wheel a second time?

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  48. Well, out of the South Island of NZ and into Auckland for a while. Some observations on the south:

    – more sophisticated since last here about 18 years ago. FM stations abound now and it was mostly AM then. More supermarkets – apparently an offshoot of Woollies. Roads although not too many four lane highways were well paved. No toll roads.
    – surprisingly less woke than Oz. Did not spot one speed camera in 1500 k’s of driving.
    – lotsa signs protesting “3 Waters” so the Kiwis haven’t laid down completely
    – no Welcome to Country bollocks or equivalents but a lot of signs in Maori. Guess what the Maori for “can” is on a recycling bin? “Tini”….
    – saw a grand total of four wind turbines (aka eagle killers). Almost no solar panels.
    – prices for everything are more expensive: groceries; used cars, electricity
    – and they earn less than equivalents in Australia
    – general consensus is Labor will lose the election at the end of the year

    Air show was terrific. Best scenery in the world but could not take five months of their cold time…

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  49. To be honest I just want to know if “old mate, generic road worker #1” had any political, criminal justice or intelligence connections because they might be really embarrassing.

    You know, or if he had any discord or WhatsApp chats with anyone who might be embarrassed about this.

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  50. Regarding Liddell, all over the TV talk shows it is said how it was coming to the end of its life. If that is the case why haven’t three more power stations been built to take its place seeing as the growth in population and demand cannot be guaranteed by renewables?

    Both sides of politics are culpable for our looming disaster. Didn’t the German experience teach them anything?

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  51. Googlery wrongology #431.
    Googlery claims an eye injury truncated Ian Baker-Finch’s golf career.
    Chronology …
    IB-F started his pro career in earnest in 1985 with a few satellite tour wins.
    He suffered an eye injury in 1986. He wore glasses to correct a slight vision impairment.
    His best finishes in the four majors were between 1988 and 1992, including the 1991 British Open.
    His game started to fall apart around 1994. Nothing to do with his eyesight.
    The Yips.
    Pure and simple.

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  52. Ed Casesays:
    April 10, 2023 at 6:24 pm
    Don’t attend rallies where Police Horses might be used.
    It’s not rocket science.

    Esay way to close down an inconvenient rally: deploy one police horse.

    You’re not real big on the right to political protest, are you?

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  53. “Both sides of politics are culpable for our looming disaster.”

    Correct. I blame the Liberals more, because they have been utter cowards in fighting the climate nonsense, and then they signed us up to net zero emissions.

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  54. Ed Case says:
    April 10, 2023 at 2:18 pm
    About IBF above, I don’t think putting was his problem.

    He lost an eye.
    How that happened, I don’t know, but perhaps someone else might?

    Just another example of Ed going off half cocked. He does it all the time.
    Ian Baker-Finch never lost an eye. The golf pro who lost an eye as well as an arm and a kidney was the late Jack Newton who walked into an aeroplane prop while being very, very drunk.

    Baker-Finch tried to change his swing to get more distance off the tee despite the fact that his swing was good enough to win an Open Championship. He lost all confidence in his game and consequently retired from tournament play and took up commentary successfully.

    Ed just makes an assertion – he lost an eye – without any evidence whatever. It would be an easy thing to check before writing it but not Ed he just goes off half cocked.

    Everything he asserts needs to be taken with a grain of salt. He dribbles nonsense.

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  55. I’m sure I saw it on the news about a month ago that La Niña was over.

    That’s what I read, too.

    Any of our clever weather sciency Cats able to enlighten us?

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  56. Putin is pretty evil, he is ex KGB and was embedded with the Stasi

    I heard that he once had a beer with Martin Armstrong

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  57. Crossie says:
    April 10, 2023 at 8:28 pm

    Regarding Liddell, all over the TV talk shows it is said how it was coming to the end of its life. If that is the case why haven’t three more power stations been built to take its place seeing as the growth in population and demand cannot be guaranteed by renewables?

    Both sides of politics are culpable for our looming disaster. Didn’t the German experience teach them anything?

    German experience teaching our politicians?
    Of course not.
    They won’t learn from their own mistakes, why should they pay heed to others’?

    I’m coming to the conclusion that the political class doesn’t give a fig about the punters.
    One or the other party gets in, they get paid plus perks and grafts if available, can’t be held responsible for mistakes or even deliberate harmful actions.

    Why bother with pesky voters, might as well just let them take turns in government.
    At the very least we save a bit on the election costs.

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  58. less woke than Oz. Did not spot one speed camera in 1500 k’s of driving.

    Yesterday I got breathalysed at 8am about 5 km from home, then passed three mobile speed cameras on my way to my old dad’s house. On Easter Sunday! They were all still there at 8pm when I drove back. I guess you have to take that sweet sweet double-time when you can.

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  59. Any of our clever weather sciency Cats able to enlighten us?

    Hunga Tonga is a go for a cold winter.
    It was an earth-shaking kaboom!

  60. Crossie

    Both sides of politics are culpable for our looming disaster. Didn’t the German experience teach them anything?

    Smart people learn from the mistakes of others. Stupid people prefer to ignore those lessons, and make their own mistakes.

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  61. Recent history of Liddell:

    As you know I was Chairman of Bayswater and Liddell power stations from 1996 till 2008. During this time we spent millions on up grading facilities to ensure that their life was extended and we also did a study on building a third plant called Bayswater 2 . The govt. did not strip maintenance funds from us. We had a $300M per year, depreciation figure which we used to enhance the future continuation of the business. In fact the treasurers both Michael Egan and Michael Costa were very supportive to us improving the business.

    In 1996 the biggest problem facing Liddell was their control systems. These were replaced with a DCS system over two years.

    This system was state of the art and good for another at least 20 years. We spent some $30M on this and there is not a plant in Australia that has a more modern system. We went from 4 control offices to one.

    Next we upgraded the Dust Collection system to the best standard.

    In approx.. 2002 we upgraded the 4 X 500Mw turbines with new state of the art Turbines that paid for themselves with efficiencies.

    From memory we increased them to 6ooMw and improved efficiency by 7 %. Which is a lot in this type of equipment. This production improvement and coal saving per Mw produced gave us something like a 5 year payback. Again with regular care and maintenance [R&M ] this plant could last 20 to 25 years.

    The boilers are a different problem they are old but again we tackled the main problem areas. Boilers by nature are self-destructive and require costly and regular attention.

    However what we did we re-engineered many of the regular trouble spots such as Ash-handling, Ash-pumps, water treatment so these areas had the best gear available.

    Boilers did have some internal changes to reduce repair costs.

    In my opinion if you had the WILL to keep this plant running it can be done. The cost is easily off-set by current power prices. We had this plant making handsome profits with a dispatch price of $27 / Mwh.

    Today’s dispatch price is in excess of $ 100/Mwh.

    Added other plant to reduce costs of production for Bayswater and Liddell and make provision for a new ” Clean Coal Plant ” of 2000 Mw with the following additions.

    To ensure that the plants were Drought Proof we increased pumping capacity at the cost of $60M
    To ensure that increased coal demands in the future and reduce current day costs we put in a coal unloader that could take the largest of Coal Trains at a cost of $100M
    Started two new coal mines to provide ample coal into the future. I believe AGL is aiming to sell this coal to an exporter and so make millions of profit. At the time of sale these contract between buying and selling were worth in the order of $3 Bill.
    The new ” Clean Coal ” station was to be on existing land held by our company. It would be what we call a ” Brown Fields ” site . This site had Geo-Tech testing and approved. EPA provisionally approved the air quality. So all the major impediments had been covered. On a dispatch figure of $30/ MWh and allowed to run at full performance 24 X 7 Hrs it had an investor return of 30% ROI. The idea is that you would run the new more efficient plant to full capacity and flex the older plants like Liddell.

    John, I believe that the management of AGL are conspiring to close coal fired plant to make power cost go much higher and improve their personal wellbeing. One of the Power Engineers did a brief estimate of how many Wind Turbines are required to replace Liddell’s Power capacity. He said if you placed all the turbines in the most favourable place for breeze ie on the coast then if you put them starting at Sydney North Head and inland as far as Strathfield. You would need to extend the field as far as Byron Bay. The shear cost of the Turbines and the subsidy will send Australia broke.

    When Macquarie handed over Liddell to AGL, we had a plant at Liddell with an estimated life of 20-25 years that was delivering to the Grid at $27 – $30/MWh and providing in the order of 30% Return on Investment.

    AGL is now being paid >$100MWh despatched to the grid that must provide a financially viable and profitable operation, so they are obviously not operating Liddell at a loss.

    To suggest Liddell has reached the end of its life by 2022 is obviously untrue and therefore, there must be a reason other than lack of plant profit generating capacity to justify its early closure.

    If AGL is exploiting energy market opportunities to gain highly elevated income by its unnecessary but deliberate restriction of supply to the grid from a plant that could efficiently and profitably delivered higher output, in order to obtain an elevated despatch price to the grid to the consumers’ major financial penalty, would AGL be in legal breach of the Trade Practices Act ?
    If so, what can be done to correct this Restrictive Trade Practice ?

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  62. amortiser

    Everything he asserts needs to be taken with a grain of salt. He dribbles nonsense.

    Everything that Grandpa Simpson asserts needs to be taken with a ton of salt, then cross-checked for signs of correctness, which are unlikely to be found.

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  63. The screech is going to get in: rub and tug has the muzzies onside; sheik shady alsuleiman and the rest of the bearded arseholes will strong-arm the million muzzies in this shit hole to vote yes.

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  64. Horses fear unstable ground*
    * which is why ‘waterjumps’ are the most challenging fences in event riding

    Unlike the riders, they don’t pick the horses in the big southern states (i.e., Vic and NSW) from the local pony club. They are big and cranky, well trained (by others) and know what they’re doing more than the people riding them.

    such as a seething mass of protestors who suddenly sit down on the roadway

    The 650+kg jack nags are trained for this, and are in no way fazed by it. You will get trampled. This ‘tactic’ was tried and failed by protestors during the riots in Mongyang in 2000, and before, and after. Look it up if you like. I’m not being contrarian.

    particularly if there happens to be a significant number of marbles somehow present on the road surface in front of them

    Again, this will not work. For the last 50 years since the Vietnam protests, the jack nags have been appropriately shod to negate marbles and the like. Also, and because there are so many cameras all over every protest, anyone pegging marbles at jack nags will immediately become the subject of a ‘wedge’ attack by the jacks either then and there, or ten minutes later, or an hour later or two hours later.

    Look. I’m not saying don’t protest. You should go the protests and protest, as I have.

    But this, along with whoever said it was a good idea to carry spray bottles of bleach and/or petrol for ‘self-defence’, is a) straight out of first year uni pamphlets handed out at happy hour, b) decades out of date and c) will not get you the result you want.

    There are more effective methods of getting this done that don’t make you a martyr.

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  65. If AGL is exploiting energy market opportunities to gain highly elevated income by its unnecessary but deliberate restriction of supply to the grid from a plant that could efficiently and profitably delivered higher output, in order to obtain an elevated despatch price to the grid to the consumers’ major financial penalty, would AGL be in legal breach of the Trade Practices Act ?
    If so, what can be done to correct this Restrictive Trade Practice ?

    Depends who is friends with the owners.

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  66. Four dead, one brain-damaged: the toll of police chokeholds

    theaustralian.com.au01:42
    Mother of Aboriginal man killed during Queensland arrest
    Raelene Nixon, mother of Aboriginal man Steven Nixon-McKellar, who died during arrest in 2021.

    By Michael McKenna
    Queensland Editor
    @McKennaattheOz
    9:03PM April 10, 2023
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    At least four people have died and another was left in a vegetative state over the past 20 years after Queensland police used a chokehold on them during their arrest.

    Banned by police services across the rest of Australia, the Queensland Police-sanctioned Lateral Vascular Neck Restraint – known as a chokehold or stranglehold – was found to have caused or contributed to the deaths and serious injury in the five cases, all of whom were men resisting arrest.

    Police officers were cleared of any wrongdoing in applying the chokehold as a “use of force” ­option on the men, with autopsies also citing underlying health ­issues or drug use as a factor in the four deaths.
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    Queensland police are trained to use the LVNR as a way to render a non-compliant person unconscious by compressing neck arteries and cutting off blood supply to the brain.

    A secret review by a Queensland Police working group last year approved its continued use despite warnings from other state and federal police, which have gradually banned the practice because it is too dangerous.

    According to leaked minutes of meetings for the review, the working group was told there was limited medical literature about the restraint and that most autopsies “suggest no significant injuries from the application of the technique”.

    But an investigation by The Australian – drawing on ­autopsy findings, investigative ­reports and published coronial inquest decisions over the past 20 years – has revealed that police use of the restraint has been linked to at least four deaths in Queensland since 2004.

    Separately, a Crime and Corruption Commission investigation concluded that officers’ use of the chokehold in 2004 on Cairns man Samuel Hogan, then 20, who was confronted by police “in the grip of a psychotic episode” as he walked along a busy highway, has left him in a vegetative state.

    Court documents show his mother, Leslee Hogan, sued the state of Queensland over his injury and won an out-of-court-settlement to pay for his ongoing care.

    Ms Hogan, who was highly critical of police and the then Crime and Misconduct Commission ­investigators, declined to comment about the continuing use of the restraint because of “legal reasons”, believed to be a gag order attached to her legal settlement.

    It can also be revealed that several Queensland police officers have faced disciplinary action over the inappropriate use of the chokehold in recent years, and that there have been other serious injuries linked to the restraint dating back three decades.

    Gold Coast lawyer Chris Nyst said he could not comment, but ­revealed he acted for a police officer in the late 1980s who was charged with doing grievous bodily harm after the chokehold he applied to a drink driver “actually popped the man’s eye completely out of its socket”.

    In recent weeks, lawyers, human rights advocates and ­indigenous leaders have called for an immediate ban of the LVNR, prompting Queensland Police Commissioner Katarina Carroll to commit to personally review its use.

  67. Langton will sic Inman onto me. Hun:

    Australia’s eSafety Commissioner Julie Inman Grant has been urged to ensure that both sides of the Voice debate get a hearing and that accusations of “hate speech” are not weaponised to shut down “no” campaigners online.

    The call comes after a series of incidents in which videos, ads, and other materials backing the “no” case against constitutional change and an Aboriginal “voice” to parliament were removed or blocked from major social media platforms, often on the basis of questionable claims or “fact checks”.

    In correspondence seen by this masthead John Storey, who directs the legal rights program at the Institute of Public Affairs, asked Ms Inman Grant for a clear definition of “hate speech” and questioned her commitment to “take it down”.

    The letter noted a number of incidents in which prominent pro-voice campaigners used “vitriolic” language to accuse those on the “no” side of racism.

    These incidents included barrister Bret Walker SC reportedly saying that it is “racist” to refer to the proposed voice as a “fourth arm of government” and Professor Marcia Langton saying that those who wanted to shield the government from voice-related court action were guilty of “subconscious racism.”

    Mr Storey added that “There is a widespread community perception that the large technology companies already moderate online content in a way that unfairly silences right-of-centre opinions.”

    The letter also noted that “The current Commonwealth government is a strong proponent of an Indigenous Voice (and that) the eSafety Commissioner is an official of the Commonwealth government.

    “Thus, the exercise of your considerable powers to limit online content, in the context of a political debate in respect to which the government has made its views clear, could be perceived to be state-sanctioned censorship of its opponents rather than the genuine restriction of harmful online abuse.”

    “Given these concerns, the powers of the eSafety Commissioner to compel the removal of online material in the context of a political debate must be exercised with the utmost caution,” the letter stated.”

    The IPA has also asked the Albanese government to consider broadening the scope of the Broadcasting Services Act to be widened to include social media companies for the length of the referendum campaign, to further ensure both sides get a fair hearing.

    Ms Inman Grant’s office was contacted for comment.

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  68. Didn’t know Langton was an old commo from way back.

    Don’t have a reference, but the Communist Party of Australia was beating the drum for indigenous rights since the mid 1930’s and the CPA was behind the Aboriginal stockman’s strike of the late 1940’s.

  69. the West is quickly losing any moral authority when it comes to free speech and censorship.

    Lost, already lost.

    When you will deprive people of employment for refusing to participate in a stage 2 drug trial, you’ve absolutely f’cking lost.

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  70. In my opinion if you had the WILL to keep this plant running it can be done. The cost is easily off-set by current power prices. We had this plant making handsome profits with a dispatch price of $27 / Mwh.

    A complex plant only has an “end of life” if you do nothing for decades.

    F’cking liars counting on The Mongs equating a power plant with a car.

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  71. Banned by police services across the rest of Australia, the Queensland Police-sanctioned Lateral Vascular Neck Restraint – known as a chokehold or stranglehold – was found to have caused or contributed to the deaths and serious injury in the five cases, all of whom were men resisting arrest.

    Interesting, Vikpol seemed to be laying down a few chokeholds over lockdown.

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  72. Parody is obsolete.

    When Barr asked for clarification if legislation would be released, Ms Plibersek said there was “no point” holding a debate ahead of a referendum that might lose.

    ALP expect you to vote for the legislation to find out what’s in it.

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  73. ALP expect you to vote for the legislation to find out what’s in it.

    It’s the vibe! They absolutely believe it!

    Australia: Sheep led by Mongs!

    What could possibly go wrong?!

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  74. What could possibly go wrong?!

    what to do?

    …if only there were historical precedents

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  75. you know what?
    western democracy has always been a rort
    the whole thing was always set up to deliver money, power, and influence to a select few

    every now and then the Commies wake up and realise they can take over the system

    the real truth that people don’t understand?
    is that Right or Left … it’s always money, power and influence

    oh … and also, who has ‘legitimate’ control of the methods of enforcing that it flows the correct way

    eat the bugs

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  76. what to do?

    Keep moving!

    Keep going where it is best!

    Wherever is best always seems to ultimately breed a parasite class that is intent on destruction.

    Be prepared to move.

    Look at munty, could you honestly stuff any more pervert f’ckwit into a donut engorged carcass? Yet he votes and breeds, intent on destroying the only environment capable of sustaining such stupidity.

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  77. ABCcess switches to full retard.
    Totally rational argument for the In-Voice, not emoting all over the place like a monty after someone spiked Xirs krispy kremes with ostregen.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-11/the-voice-no-vote-young-liberals-leader-considers-yes-vote/102206592
    “Our people laid their soul bare to you and made themselves vulnerable in extending the hand to this nation and asking you to recognise us and to give us a voice.

    “This country has criminalised our children, they are highly incarcerated, we are even locking up 10-year-olds.

    “What a shame to this country.

    “And yet what you decide is going to determine our future.

    “We shared with you our pain, but we also shared our hope, and if we don’t have that hope recognised, you are then damning us to hell, and you are going to kill a nation of people.”

    Im feeling positively Satanic after that lump of emotional bullshit.
    Hell it is.

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  78. “…photos was doctored to make it look as though he punched the horse but was in fact using his wrist to prevent the horse from harming him…”

    There is video of the event, which clearly shows the forearm was used to turn the horses head, in what I believe is best described as self-defense against being pushed and perhaps even trampled by the same animal. A “punch” would be forceful and focused contact of the fist, not merely the hand coming into contact with the target at any particular instant. The fingers were bunched into a fist merely to protect them, not in order to focus applied force to do harm.
    This is all quite plain and obvious from the aforesaid video.
    IMHO, no rational person viewing the video would come to any other conclusion, and the selection of specific frames from the video to propose a narrative the horse was punched is at best “fake news” as “click-bait” and at worst malicious and deliberate libel and slander.

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  79. When you will deprive people of employment for refusing to participate in a stage 2 drug trial, you’ve absolutely f’cking lost.

    Well said Rick. That is what it amounts to.

    Like Cassie and others, I am still quite shell shocked over what happened. The authorities had no foresight at all about the consequences . We are now seeing a global economy in freefall, businesses lost, kids refusing to return to school, widespread psychological damage, and of course deaths and serious health damage caused by experimental drugs.

    This is a society that is slowly disintegrating. If this sounds extreme …….it won’t in about two years time.

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  80. Dunno about being Nazis, Cass. But Lordie enduring 4 freaking hours of that stuff should send you around the bend. German opera is cultural appropriation anyway. Opera should only be sung in Italian. ?

    No, The Ring is high German culture, very special and definitely refers to something pan-European, the very ancient cosmology of the north-west European Bronze and Iron Ages. Linked also in common origins to the grander Indo-European cosmology of Crete, Greece and Rome. The music is what it is about as well; the story telling of a familial drama of the gods via musical motifs and huge rises and falls in emotions. They say you have to be ‘taught’ to love Wagner and to some extent that is true of The Ring, but it does grown on you, and Hairy has been an excellent teacher for me, with his intense musical background as a chorister. It’s been echoing in my head ever since.

    Hairy now pondering (seriously, he’s so wrapped in this production) whether we should return to Bendigo in a couple of weeks for the second sitting to pick up the two operas of this cycle that we missed – ‘Seigfreid’, the tale of the saving of Brunnhilde, and the amazing feat of ‘Gotterdammerung’, the twilight of the gods. In Scandinavia, t’s icalled Ragnorok, their total final destruction; although one god Balder – a Christian concept perhaps – does emerge as a point of renewal. If we do I think we should fly rather than drive, and keep our driving spirits for seeing the grandies in Queensland soon.

  81. It’s nice to be home. The Currawongs are singing themselves to bed in the dusk and Attapuss emerged from under our bedclothes where he has been pining, pitiful with little mweeps, so it’s not one of those long absences, you could almost hear him saying thankfully.

    We did get to see the riverside beach at Wagga Wagga, so lovely on a startlingly cobalt blue-skied morning, no clouds, and the river gums drifting green above the milk-tea Murrumbidgee. We’d had a disagreement about which hotel to book – I’d wanted the smart newish International, and Hairy had wanted one on the riverside walk. He won, and we both agreed in the end that his choice was the better one. Obviously a very upmarket place in the 1990’s, still acceptably of quality and blissfully quiet unlike the other choices, our very large room this conference hotel backed onto the riverside walk, which we took as soon as we arrived.

    The walk actually sits on top of a steep levee which raises the already significant riverbank even higher. We quickly worked out that the solid wall along the top of this levee was recent additional flood protection. Without the levee and this wall, which extends to the city beach, the flood waters would pile into central Mudgee as they used to do in the past. So much of the Riverina is a flood plain, where roadways have to be elevated, and where in the past, as in Maitland and places like Lismore up north, and parts of the Shoalhaven down south, floods were the norm. Droughts and flooding rains. How stupid was that young girl who drank the Climate Kool Aid re the ‘unprecedented’ Lismore floods and took down the City of Sydney believing it?

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  82. That link suggesting Calli and I resembled the Chaucer-reading ladies of medieval yore lamenting those danged new-fangled things like Gothic buttresses and commenting on how young the Crusaders looked these days – well, it made me laugh. While away I have been amusing myself with a book that is all about how one famous woman grew older and wiser in medieval times, with just the same sort of terseness in her approach to her world. The book, by Australian Karen Brooks, is called .The Good Wife of Bath’, published recently, and subtitled ‘A (Mostly) True Story’. It is loosely based on the bawdy character so denominated in Chaucer’s The Canterbury Tales. It romps its way through saucy tales of husbands one to five (in number if not content it has shades of my Big Sis’s marital trials), with poor Eleanor, a practical woman with a good business head, constantly betrayed in a man’s world by the desires of her queynte. Say it aloud, gentlemen, and it will emerge as a word with which you are familiar and which Dover does not permit here in its more Anglo-Saxon mode.

    A book for female readers, and I warn you, it has some raunchy moments for the ladies.
    Gentlemen however may feel themselves somewhat … umm … assessed.
    Aye, so they may, the great gobshytes, Eleanor may well have opined.

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