Open Thread – Easter Weekend 8 April 2023


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caveman
caveman
April 8, 2023 12:10 am

No

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
April 8, 2023 12:12 am

yes

Pogria
Pogria
April 8, 2023 12:14 am

It’s still raining. 🙁

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Marcia Langton in The Australian:

“I imagine that most Australians who are non-Indigenous, if we lose the ­referendum, will not be able to look me in the eye,”

Uh huh.

“How are they going to ever ask an Indigenous person, a Traditional Owner, for a welcome to country? How are they ever going to be able to ask me to come and speak at their conference?

She hasn’t thought this one through. (She’s allegedly a sharp intellect)

If they have the temerity to do it, of course the answer is going to be no.”

Eh? What’s that you say, if the Voice vote is “No” there’ll be no more welcome to country or Marcia Langton speaking at conferences?
…. Got it, she’s undercover for the “No” case.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
April 8, 2023 12:55 am

NO means no more “welcome to country”.

Beaut!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 8, 2023 1:10 am

How are they going to ever ask an Indigenous person, a Traditional Owner, for a welcome to country? How are they ever going to be able to ask me to come and speak at their conference?

Possibly the whole point.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 8, 2023 1:12 am

This is even more proof that the Voice is seen as a direct tap-in to an even bigger trough for fauxboriginal academics than they’re already accustomed to.

Tom
Tom
April 8, 2023 2:38 am

LIV rebel tour star Brooks Koepka (-12) is leading the Masters by five strokes, even though he hasn’t played a proper competitive four-round tournament for the best part of a year.

The embarrassment of the PGA golf establishment would be delicious were Koepka to win. The LIV tour is Mickey Mouse rubbish I would never watch (except for the Adelaide tour stop later this year), but the fact is nothing bad ever happens as a result of competition.

The PGA Tour’s arrogance for decades as a virtual monopoly is coming home to roost as the rebels earn stupendous life-changing pay packets. More info about the LIV tour earnings of stars like reigning British Open champion Cameron Smith here.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
April 8, 2023 3:35 am

An excerpt from another excellent short read from James Allan.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/04/photios-finished/

This Voice body will have big repercussions and none of them will be good for mainstream voters – how the ABC characterises opposition to that be damned! (For those with an interest in legal niceties, I was invited to write a longish article for the Australian Law Journal to respond to former chief justice French and say why the Voice would be a disaster, for all of us. It’s out soon, Chris. I can send you a copy.) Here I’ll just give a few of the big-ticket points. One. The principle of dividing Australians into groups, only one of which gets special rights, is antithetical to life in a liberal democracy. It doesn’t matter if you say the special right is based on race or on something else. This trades in group rights, identity politics, unequal citizenship and so is wrong in principle.

WolfmanOz
April 8, 2023 3:49 am

Mak Siccar says:
April 8, 2023 at 3:35 am

James Allan always writes superbly (and he’s spot on here again) – another great article.

Tom
Tom
April 8, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
April 8, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
April 8, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
April 8, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
April 8, 2023 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
April 8, 2023 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
April 8, 2023 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
April 8, 2023 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
April 8, 2023 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
April 8, 2023 4:17 am
Tom
Tom
April 8, 2023 4:18 am
Tom
Tom
April 8, 2023 4:19 am
Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 8, 2023 4:22 am

Thank you Tom, some cartoonists have remembered what it’s really all about, Bob Moran’s is very apt and scary.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 8, 2023 4:27 am

When real journalists engaged in real journalism with out fear or favour rather than jouralisming (H/T Ben Shapiro) the alphabet outlets today – one such journalist was Giovanino Guareschi who sums up today’s trends so well in this sentence : When stupidity assumes an exaggerated intensity it becomes anarchy. And that sums up the trans agenda.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 8, 2023 6:37 am

Turkey has agreed with Moscow to end sanctions on fertiliser and grain.
Turkey is a major grain producer and processor for the region and no doubt Turkish farmers and grain businesses aren’t too happy with being penalised fir Ukraine.

Laura Jayes is interviewing Pat Farmer with a girly gush.
Pat can run his legs to stumps but that won’t make me vote for a racist constitution.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
April 8, 2023 6:40 am

For those with an online subscription the Herald Sun has an article quoting CHO VIC and encouraging uptake of boosters.

They also made a Twitter post which is getting nearly 1,000 comments, mainly negative.

calli
calli
April 8, 2023 6:53 am

One of my favourite authors, Tinta. Here’s the cover art for one of his books. A good one for the season. There is a story that goes with it.

He was a journalist and artist…and he hated the Communists. His little vignettes of life in the post-war Po valley will remain with me forever.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 8, 2023 6:54 am

Lefty bloggers are so hopeless they have to be made up.

Legacy Media in Shock as Award-Winning Progressive Blogger Found to Have Never Existed (7 Apr)

“Germany’s legacy media are in shock after it was found that an award-winning progressive blogger they heaped repeated praise on never actually existed.

Julia “Jule Stinkesocke” Gothe — a paraplegic pediatrician in Hamburg — is a famous blogger in Germany who has repeatedly received awards for her writings on progressive issues ranging from green politics to disability activism.

Operating since 2009, her work has earned her many accolades, with German state-owned broadcaster Deutsche Welle awarding her for running the best German-language blog in 2012.

However, it now appears that the famous blogger never existed in the first place.

According to a report by Bild, numerous inconsistencies with Gothe’s life story have been creeping up over the last number of years, prompting some netizens to question the reality behind the allegedly disabled blogger’s online presence.

Alarm bells however really started to go off after one teacher in the country found that all of the pictures allegedly depicting “Gothe” were actually of Kylie Harris, who is described as being a relatively unknown pornstar from Australia.

“Why has the research only been done now? Very simple: A wheelchair account is untouchable if you don’t want to be labeled as ableist. You don’t want to risk that,” they said.”

Really is amazing how much of the Left is fake. Fake global warming, fake epidemics, fake vaccines, fake genders, fake elections and now fake bloggers.

calli
calli
April 8, 2023 6:58 am

Bourne, the “booster” urging is full throated in NSW also. Ads on TV about “topping up”.

Enough you nincompoops and charlatans! They pretended two doses, then three, four and now five. Give it up already. It’s over.

If you haven’t had it by now, you’re never going to get it. And if you’ve had it and didn’t know, you have natural immunity.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 8, 2023 7:11 am

More tranny biff.

Former NCAA Swimmer Riley Gaines Assaulted By Trans Activists At San Fran University Speech (8 Apr)

“Outspoken women’s rights activist and former NCAA swimmer Riley Gaines – who first made headlines for speaking out for being snubbed of a trophy in favor of trans swimmer Lia Thomas – was assaulted by a pro-trans crowd at a speech at San Francisco State University Thursday night.

Her husband, Louis Barker, said she had to be barricaded in a room for nearly three hours to protect herself after.

He said: “She told me she was hit multiple times by a guy in a dress. I was shaking. It made me that mad. It makes me sick to feel so helpless about it. She was under police protection and was still hit by a man wearing a dress.””

Obnoxious and violent trannies seem to be the next thing. And like Antifa and BLM they have impunity.

Tekweni
Tekweni
April 8, 2023 7:18 am

Having just read the articles and commentary in the Oz on the voice I am at least glad Dutton has come out against it. I lived the first 40 years of my live in a country separated by apartheid. I despise any form of racism, that which was practiced by the National Party in South Africa and that which is currently practiced by the ANC. It’s fundamentally divisive and it’s evil. Nobody should be treated differently because of their race. And nobody should be privileged because of their race. That there are people in this country who are happy to take up the evil policies racist of apartheid South Africa is appalling. And that they deride those that call them out is even worse.

rosie
rosie
April 8, 2023 7:20 am

Giovanino Guareschi

I also have his reminisces of his time in the Italian army and as a German POW.
I think he mentioned in that that he wrote a traditional autobiography but he either destroyed it or simply never had it published.

calli
calli
April 8, 2023 7:20 am

When they bash you up (either physically or verbally) for simply speaking…they have NOTHING.

No argument, no thoughtfulness, no insight, just plain, common, gutter level abuse.

m0nty
m0nty
April 8, 2023 7:22 am

I see Matt Taibbi is having a very bad day. First, Mehdi Hasan absolutely destroys him in an interview about the Twitter Files, demolishing the entire premise. Then his boy Musk bans Substack links on Twitter for petty competitive reasons, attacking Taibbi’s income stream. Now he is talking about leaving Twitter!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 8, 2023 7:27 am

I see Matt Taibbi is having a very bad day.

LOL. Monty now putting a bag over his head and hoping the Twitter files will go away.
You really don’t like the Left being revealed as fascists do you son?

Cassie of Sydney
April 8, 2023 7:35 am

I see the pervert apologist is here. The pervert apologist doesn’t mind women being bashed and attacked. No doubt he’s laughing about the violence against Gaines. Her crime? Speaking up for biological women’s sport. According to him, we women ask for it, particularly “cis” women.

Does his wife know he’s a pervert apologist? Actually, he’s worse, he’s an apologist for violence against women.

shatterzzz
April 8, 2023 7:36 am

For those who haven’t seen why Labor & the media have their knickers in a knot this morning ..
Pauline’s PLEASE EXPLAIN .. LOL!
https://youtu.be/MTyvqfGyTnA

Cassie of Sydney
April 8, 2023 7:39 am

Mehdi Hassan, rabid Jew hater and Islamist apologist. No wonder the pervert apologist likes him.

Jew haters always stick together.

LOL.

rosie
rosie
April 8, 2023 7:39 am

If you haven’t had it by now, you’re never going to get it.

If that were true no-one would be currently be getting covid.
It’s now an endemic illness, as we knew it would become and some people will continue to be vulnerable, to covid and flu, as that season also approaches.
Over the last week, 27,742 cases of COVID-19 were reported across Australia, an average of 3,963 cases per day.

shatterzzz
April 8, 2023 7:42 am

I should have added, being a “houso” I live in a street, almost, full of NDIS recipients, including 3 entire families over 16 .. the one thing they all have in common (except one wheelchair bound person) is the absence of a visible “disability” …

calli
calli
April 8, 2023 7:47 am

How many of those cases are new and how many are repeats? All the ones I know of are testing +ve with very mild symptoms. They’ve all had it before.

I know some people are more vulnerable to getting sick, and some succumbing to whatever it is that’s going around at the time. I’m not saying that Covid isn’t dangerous for some, but for most strong and healthy people it just isn’t an issue.

My beef is with the constant pushing of “vaccine” for everyone including small children regardless of vulnerability.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 8, 2023 7:48 am

Using toilet paper is like smoking tobacco.

‘You need a bidet’ or ‘recycled tissue’ – Wash Post’s ‘Climate Coach’ takes a swipe at toilet paper usage: ‘We may come to see wiping our bums with extra-soft toilet paper…as we do smoking cigarettes’ (6 Apr)

The fun thing with this is I bet they’ll turn around and say bidets are bad for Gaia because they use lots of water. Soon it will be easy to tell a Green voter from a distance…

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
April 8, 2023 7:50 am

I should have added, being a “houso” I live in a street, almost, full of NDIS recipients, including 3 entire families over 16 .. the one thing they all have in common (except one wheelchair bound person) is the absence of a visible “disability” …

I see so many operators offering accredited NDIS services from taxi’s to garden care. No wonder its expenditure has now surpassed Medicare. Most of us could see it when it was passed (with ALP and LNP support) that it would become the greatest grift in Australian history.

Pogria
Pogria
April 8, 2023 7:53 am

CLIMATE COACH Michael J. Coren: The typical person in the United States uses about 24 rolls of toilet paper per year. …

Bruce, I reckon you could smell them now! sheesh, 24 rolls a year! I go through that in a week sometimes.

m0nty
m0nty
April 8, 2023 7:55 am

Don’t make up lies about me, Cranky. You are very close to joining BJ in Coventry, because like him you are becoming extremely boring. At least BJ sticks to what I actually say in his endlessly dull Reply Guy posts.

Tom
Tom
April 8, 2023 7:58 am

My beef is with the constant pushing of “vaccine” for everyone including small children regardless of vulnerability.

The leftist clown who edits and reads the news on the station I listen to (RSN.net.au) leads this morning’s bulletin with the we-all-gunna-die Kung Flu hysteria.

The government’s Kung Flu hysteria now has as much credibility as the Bureau of Mythology’s arse-covering new forecasting system, which asserts almost every day will be rainy — just in case.

Bruce
Bruce
April 8, 2023 8:00 am

Bruce of Newk (Nuke?):

“Obnoxious and violent trannies seem to be the next thing. And like Antifa and BLM they have impunity.”

They are being maneuvered to provoke a backlash from REAL people. Same deal with the other two “provocateur” groups.

Once that happens, the degenerate statists will administer “righteous punishment” on a cosmic scale.

Cassie of Sydney
April 8, 2023 8:00 am

“m0ntysays:
April 8, 2023 at 7:55 am
Don’t make up lies about me, Cranky. You are very close to joining BJ in Coventry, because like him you are becoming extremely boring. At least BJ sticks to what I actually say in his endlessly dull Reply Guy posts.”

Are you threatening me? You clearly get off on threats against women.

And no, I’m never boring.

Piss off. You’re a disgrace, you’re not even an entertaining disgrace.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 8, 2023 8:00 am

I hope you aren’t using toilet paper or a bidet Monty.
It’s bad for the Planet if you do.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 8, 2023 8:00 am

I’m off to work.
You can thank me for what you are about to eat today Monty.

calli
calli
April 8, 2023 8:01 am

NDIS services from taxi’s to garden care

And the frail elderly can take a hike.

flyingduk
flyingduk
April 8, 2023 8:01 am

NO means no more “welcome to country”.

I think that should read no more ‘welcoming me to my own country’?

calli
calli
April 8, 2023 8:03 am

Who is in Coventry? Boambee John? I thought I saw a comment last night.

Cassie of Sydney
April 8, 2023 8:04 am

The pervert apologist thinks he’s chief censor of Dover’s Catallaxy.

flyingduk
flyingduk
April 8, 2023 8:05 am

For those with an online subscription the Herald Sun has an article quoting CHO VIC and encouraging uptake of boosters.

Pro tip, they aint ‘boosters’ – they is remedial shots – if 2 shots didnt work, why take a 3rd/4th/5th – if 2 shots did work, why take a 3rd/4th/5th?

When you failed a test at school, you didnt do a ‘booster’ test, you did a remedial test…

MatrixTransform
April 8, 2023 8:12 am

Obnoxious and violent trannies seem to be the next thing

and there’s a clip out there too… watch the white house spokes-lezzo explain

cut yr dick off
fight for justice
the Govt has your back

flyingduk
flyingduk
April 8, 2023 8:13 am

If you haven’t had it by now, you’re never going to get it.

If that were true no-one would be currently be getting covid.

*no one* is currently getting COVID-19 … it mutates so fast that it becomes 19.1 then 19.2 then 19.3 then 20.0 then 20.1 etc etc etc

That is why the injections don’t work and never could – it mutates around them too fast. It mutates so fast that even during one persons own illness there are multiple variants existing in that one person.

That being said, I’m ‘baffled’ why they kept giving injections based on COVID 19.0 (Wuhan) for so long, and why the current ‘bivalent’ shot *still* includes the original (long dead) Wuhan spike.

If I were a ‘conspiracy theorist’, I might muse that the intent all along was to get the toxic Wuhan spike into everyone by way of natural infection with the original strain, but it mutated too fast to a less virulent spike, and they had to fall back on plan B: injecting the Wuhan spike into you directly under guise of ‘vaccination’.

I know that wasn’t the plan, of course, but *if* I were a conspiracy theorist, I might wonder if it was…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 8, 2023 8:14 am

We’ve noticed.

A Lot of the Trans Folks Are Self-Identifying as Violent Now (7 Apr)

“Not only is the trans crowd not keeping a low profile after one of their own slaughtered six people less than two weeks ago, but they’re also being pretty clear that there’s more where that came from.

Leftists insist that transgender people are mentally healthy, but the people in question are acting more and more bat**** every day. If you are of the opinion that homicidal urges are a sign of mental instability, that is.

The mainstream media refused to cover them, but pro-transgender protestors stormed into Capitol buildings in four different states last week, creating disturbances in legislative chambers. In two of the states, the protests led to disruptions in ongoing legislative sessions. As you can recall, this kind of behavior was previously labeled as an insurrection by the media.”

Add to that the second tranny wannabe terrorist who was fortunately arrested last week, and the recent violence by tranny protesters here in NSW and in NZ. Plus of course the woman swimmer assaulted as per the link earlier.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
April 8, 2023 8:16 am

From Michael Smith regarding Ken Wyatt

Joe Aston from the Financial Review reported 5 years ago that Wyatt has been trying to get out (to Labor (

m0nty
m0nty
April 8, 2023 8:21 am

Of course I am not threatening you Cranky. Geez.

Let me rephrase: please don’t make up lies about me.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 8, 2023 8:23 am

Dover, can we please have a separate thread for short people?
They are really quite annoying.
They got little hands
And little eyes
And they walk around
Tellin’ great big lies
They got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear platform shoes
On their nasty little feet.

Dot
Dot
April 8, 2023 8:24 am

Enjoy the decline (of the west).

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 8, 2023 8:25 am

Over the last week, 27,742 cases of COVID-19 were reported across Australia, an average of 3,963 cases per day.

If that figure’s correct, then it’s a disaster.

One thing i’d like to know, what percentage of the 27,742 have had at least one Covid Vaccination?

MatrixTransform
April 8, 2023 8:25 am

please don’t make up lies about me

nothing but the truth then,
the kiddie-groomer pervert apologist sounds sad today

Cassie of Sydney
April 8, 2023 8:26 am

Of course I am not threatening you Cranky. Geez.

Yes you did. Your words…“You are very close to joining BJ in Coventry, because like him you are becoming extremely boring. Sending me to “Coventry”….hmm, I call that a threat.

Let me rephrase: please don’t make up lies about me.”

Nup, I don’t need to make up lies about you. You are open about your Jew hatred and the fact that you think violence against women whose opinions you don’t like is quite okay.

As I said above, piss off.

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 8, 2023 8:27 am

The whole trans obscenity is just another establishment assault on citizens.

m0nty
m0nty
April 8, 2023 8:27 am

Sending me to “Coventry”….hmm, I call that a threat.

Do you even know what that means?

Bar Beach Swimmer
April 8, 2023 8:28 am

More information of the cessation of the use of AZ in Australia.
The information comes from Dr John Campbell, who put up a clip on this on his YouTube channel two days ago – 16 mins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hm7mXkNmAk

In Australia, AstraZeneca is no longer available, and the Australian authorities provide the reason…

There was a link between the AZ vaccine and a rare but serious side effect, thrombosis with thrombocytopenia (TTS). AstraZeneca is no longer available as of 20 March 2023, so no further cases of Astra Zeneca-related TTS can occur in Australia.

So they are clearly saying that one is related to the other. They are stopping giving the vaccine so that there will be no further cases of of these adverse events.

Campbell then compares what the Australian authorities and the what the British Heart Foundation (BHF) – a semi-government authority – are advising. Whereas the Australian authorities have withdrawn AZ because of TTP – and he says have the “decency” to admit what has happened, the BHF are just advising that the mRNA vaccines are more effective and are now a better “fit” than is AZ.

But Campbell points out that the Australian authorities have not been as candid regarding the other major adverse events that AZ has been the cause of – or likely to be the cause of – unlike the British authorities, which report through its Yellow Card reporting scheme.

The Yellow Card reporting scheme in the UK for AZ:

Total number of reports of suspected ADRs at 247,500.
Total number of suspected adverse reactions 877,221.
Total number of reports of suspected ADRs which were serious 191,644.
Total number of reports of suspected ADRs with a fatal outcome 1,364.

Campbell does not know how many people in the UK were given AZ – the information no longer seems available – but he thinks about 10mill people received it. If so, these are incredibly high rates of adverse reactions, as he points out. To coin a phrase: do the math.

shatterzzz
April 8, 2023 8:28 am

How many of those cases are new and how many are repeats? All the ones I know of are testing +ve with very mild symptoms. They’ve all had it before.

If you work in catering (NSW) you still have to get tested regularly .. my youngest daughter (works in a restaurant) had all 23 x vax (to date) tested positive for the 3rd time last week .. no obvious symptoms she was/is aware of but still 7 days compulsory “sick” leave ……

rosie
rosie
April 8, 2023 8:29 am

I don’t know why people keep insisting that ‘they’ manufactured covid and the covid vaccines as part of some sort of depopulation or something something conspiracy.
‘They’ have had a very successful western depopulation method for decades heartily endorsed by the majority of the population.
It’s called high taxation,
the welfare state, contraception and abortion and it’s been working a treat.
Just look at any western nation’s year by year decrease in fertility for the last few decades.

Cassie of Sydney
April 8, 2023 8:29 am

“Do you even know what that means?”

Yes pervert apologist, I do.

shatterzzz
April 8, 2023 8:32 am

Sending me to “Coventry”….

Now that would take some doing on a non verbal blog tho .. LOL!

calli
calli
April 8, 2023 8:33 am

Dover, can we please have a separate thread for short people?

You’re going GrigoryM, Sancho.

Never go full GrigoryM.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 8, 2023 8:33 am

I’m not saying that Covid isn’t dangerous for some, but for most strong and healthy people it just isn’t an issue.

There’s no Covid, never was.
5,000 people die of the Flu every year, except in 2020, 2021, 2022, when no one died of the Flu.
The hundreds of deaths per week now are Flu deaths and vaccine deaths.
It’ s not slowing down either, if the figure of 90% vaccination rates is correct.

m0nty
m0nty
April 8, 2023 8:36 am

The other reason I wouldn’t talk to you, Cranky, is that you are just so basic. Like BJ, you don’t actually have much going on upstairs. Life is too short to spend it talking to simple people.

132andBush
132andBush
April 8, 2023 8:37 am

Of course I am not threatening you Cranky. Geez.

Let me rephrase: please don’t make up lies about me.

There have been no lies told about you here, Camp guard.

Cassie of Sydney
April 8, 2023 8:38 am

“The other reason I wouldn’t talk to you, Cranky, is that you are just so basic. Like BJ, you don’t actually have much going on upstairs. Life is too short to spend it talking to simple people.”

LOL.

Have you told your wife you’re a pervert apologist and an apologist for violence against women? She might want to know.

calli
calli
April 8, 2023 8:39 am

If ATAGI doesn’t recommend it, why are children still receiving “boosters”?

I know, because my own grandchildren have been given multiple doses because…medical advice about building up “herd immunity”. Such wonderful immunity that they’ve still caught it.

It’s hard to make me angry, but I’m incandescent over this. I just control it with the kids because it’s their call, not mine. Here I can vent…a little bit. 😀

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 8, 2023 8:41 am

Over the target Cassie.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 8, 2023 8:41 am

Vote ‘No’ and you won’t get a welcome to country again’

Marcia Langton doesn’t mince words and now she’s really had enough. When Australians vote on the voice, she wants them to think hard about what’s at stake.

Is that all it will take? Seriously?

calli
calli
April 8, 2023 8:42 am

Oh, I see what sending to Coventry is now.

I do it too. But call it “letting that one through to The Keeper”.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 8, 2023 8:44 am

Nobody needs to make up lies about mutley. His perversion is on display all day every day. You’re not normal munster.

Luzu
Luzu
April 8, 2023 8:48 am

Yes, we know what it means, Monty. It means to exclude and ignore somebody as a form of punishment.

Here’s a thought, Monts. How about you scroll past Cassie’s posts? I do that for a number of commentators who do nothing but insult one another.

The thing is with Cassie, though, she has you to rights. You are an apologist for behaviours towards children that most adults find alarming or threatening. You have minimised the violence and threats of violence against women who ask for biological female spaces to be preserved as such. You do seem to be profoundly hostile towards and yet remarkably uninformed about the modern state of Israel and its people.

I am not going to do what others do and mock you for your size, your lack of genitalia or who you chose to marry or how you generate your income. I genuinely believe you fathered your own children and that you love and are loved by those around you.

I am just going to do what I have always done. Scroll past when I see your name.

m0nty
m0nty
April 8, 2023 8:50 am

Conformation that Matt Taibbi is leaving Twitter. Musk wanted him to move to Twitter and write for free LOL.

Cassie of Sydney
April 8, 2023 8:52 am

I watched the footage of Riley Gaines being attacked and it isn’t pretty, just like the footage of Kellie-Jay being attacked and then pulled through a howling and baying mob in an Auckland Park isn’t pretty. Anyone who comes here and makes light of, dismisses and/or attempts to validate this unhinged violence against women will be confronted on these pages.

As I’ve said before, the reason why we’re in this ever deepening quagmire of shit is because too many, too often, have either ignored the left’s unhinged cultural attacks or just turned the other cheek to it. This must stop.

Bar Beach Swimmer
April 8, 2023 8:52 am

Oh, I meant to add that Campbell notes that reported on the Oxford University website a total of 2Bill doses of AZ have been given out as part of the rollout. Of which hundred of millions of doses have been given out in India – (the India vaccine, is basically the same vaccine, it’s just produced in India).

2 Billion doses.

Frank
Frank
April 8, 2023 8:52 am

I am not going to do what others do and mock you…

I see what you did there.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 8, 2023 8:53 am

Mak Siccar says:
April 8, 2023 at 3:35 am

An excerpt from another excellent short read from James Allan.

An excellent read indeed.
Team Dutton, having taken the right direction, need to say these things rather than sticking to ‘inoffensive’ justifications about ‘no detail’, or the Canbra Voice.

All the detail needed is in the wording of the constitutional amendment – even Mark Dreyfus was horrified into action on the inclusion of Executive Government – and the Canbra Voice was never in doubt.

Prog Australia hates you, right? You’re already accused of being a monstrous racist. Being mealy mouthed about the actual dangers won’t change that. It leaves you at risk of being argued down – and won’t convince the punters that they are being led by Uncle Luigi’s Judas Goat of ‘generosity’.

calli
calli
April 8, 2023 8:54 am

What I am pleased about in the whole sorry Covid business is the concentration now on treatments for acute cases.

What it so annoying about the stats is that deaths are still being attributed to Covid in this way:

Factors such as other disease or chronic conditions may also have contributed to or caused deaths associated with COVID-19

Meaning that the patient tested +ve for Covid at the time of death. This is deceptive reporting and as such I can completely disregard it.

I like honesty. Even brutal honesty. It’s in short supply these days.

feelthebern
feelthebern
April 8, 2023 8:54 am

A friend of mine, someone I’ve known since kindergarten, is in the last stages of their 7-8 year battle with cancer.
It’s a tragedy from start to finish.
And the cancer treatment industry in Australia is rort.

A few months back they were offered a new drug that cost $20k per month.
What I found odd was that this drug was developed, in part, with Australian taxpayer money & US taxpayer money as part of the “Moonshot” scheme announced ten or so years ago.
But unlike a lot of newer drugs in this category, there were no scheme for people who can’t afford it to receive it at a lower cost.
So effectively their treatment stopped.
A week ago, it was confirmed the cancer is now in the pancreas.
Immediately, there were drug companies offering the products for free, one of which is the $20k a month company for that other drug.

It’s impossible to be objective.
But this whole situation is like a sick joke.
The whole cancer treatment industry needs to be re-worked from top to bottom.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
April 8, 2023 8:57 am

Rosie,
Please also note current ATAGI advice for healthy under 65’s is not a “recommend” but a “consider”.

Unfortunately the way the Government and media are pushing the latest shot is as though it is a recommend and some organisations seem to equate that to a must have.

Club Grubbery mentioned that Costco are currently recruiting for a new Gold Coast store and are requiring double jabbed. This is farcical as anybody only double jabbed is no longer considered vaccinated and the first two created 2 years ago. It is box ticking virtue signalling. However the worst aspect is that it might pressure younger unvaccinated job seekers to take two useless vaccines that are more likely to cause them harm than good.

MatrixTransform
April 8, 2023 8:58 am

dearest mUnty,

I understand that you’re feeling a little like you have no power except perhaps, by the-silent-treatment. But it just isn’t true.

I’m writing to tell you that although you have the general physique of a male and enjoy all the benefits thereof like increased speed, power and physical size (and you’ve been working hard size havent you mate). It isn’t enough.

My thought is that you could benefit tremendously by also adopting the power aspects that women enjoy. Not just talking like one, or arguing like one, or dishing silent-treatments. Have you considered that really you could probably cross the line and actually be one?

Seriously, have you considered removing your manly tackle and popping on a frock? You’d at be least 2x powerful, and all the cool kids are doing it.

Seriosly, give it some though.
Imagine all the affirmation you’d get every day for being strong, powerful and strident and at the same time, frail, sensitive, and dare I say it, sexy.

You’d be just a little bit ‘less’ but all that much ‘more’ … like the void in the bagel, or the hole in the donut.

Chin up soldier

yours truly

MT

Cassie of Sydney
April 8, 2023 9:02 am

“Luzusays:
April 8, 2023 at 8:48 am”

A perfect comment Luzu.

I watched the new Nike advert which has the pervert tranny, Dylan Mulvaney, dancing and prancing about, and it is a complete mockery of the female. I was reminded of a cartoon character. Actually, it’s worse, the pervert Mulvaney is mocking young girls, which provides us with an insight into the mind of this pervert.

calli
calli
April 8, 2023 9:04 am

Bern, this is exactly what happened with my brother in law. $20k. Fortunately he was able to get onto a trial program. I know this sucks, but he had an inside lane via a family member. It gave him another 18 months.

The whole thing is a sham.

Also, good to see you back here. I felt lonely.

m0nty
m0nty
April 8, 2023 9:04 am

You’re the one with trans in your name, MT. You first.

Frank
Frank
April 8, 2023 9:07 am

You would think they would be paying you the $20K for volunteering to be a guinea pig.

Real Deal
Real Deal
April 8, 2023 9:08 am

At least BJ sticks to what I actually say in his endlessly dull Reply Guy posts.

Endlessly dull? That is astonishing coming from a one trick pony/canned riff guy such as yourself.

As was once said of St Ruth here; you’re so boring you could bore an arsehole in a wooden horse.

JC
JC
April 8, 2023 9:09 am

Seriously, have you considered removing your manly tackle and popping on a frock?

Huh!

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
April 8, 2023 9:09 am

For those interested in Covid statistics check out the TAS weekly surveillance reports.

They actuality show hospitalisations by admitted “with” Covid and “due” to Covid with age breakdowns since December 2021.

They show much less than half and in many ages groups (ie. decades) less than a quarter were actually admitted for Covid but for another reason.

Incidentally TAS has had no under 30’s die with Covid.

Whenever we are told hospitalisation numbers we are being given deliberately misleading information designed to encourage vaccine uptake. Same as just telling us deaths without age or co-morbidities.

Then if you want to look further most deaths under 20 don’t stand up to close scrutiny as other factors involved.
My “favourite” was the 13 year old who died in a traffic accident but had Covid (Qld January 22).

It is a disgrace to the medical authorities that this is still continuing.

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 8, 2023 9:10 am

What I don’t get is why companies like Nike set out to insult their customers. Politics before business?

Cassie of Sydney
April 8, 2023 9:11 am

Nice to see you Bern.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 8, 2023 9:12 am

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
April 8, 2023 at 7:11 am
More tranny biff.

Former NCAA Swimmer Riley Gaines Assaulted By Trans Activists At San Fran University Speech (8 Apr)

“Outspoken women’s rights activist and former NCAA swimmer Riley Gaines – who first made headlines for speaking out for being snubbed of a trophy in favor of trans swimmer Lia Thomas – was assaulted by a pro-trans crowd at a speech at San Francisco State University Thursday night.

m0nty=fa will be here soon to assure us that she provoked the violence, and is Nazi-adjacent.

Tom
Tom
April 8, 2023 9:13 am

I watched the new Nike advert which has the pervert tranny, Dylan Mulvaney, dancing and prancing about, and it is a complete mockery of the female.

The trans movement is an orchestrated mockery of the female by power-drunk male homosexuals.

You’re a feminist? Well, we just made up all that go-you-gurrrl stuff. You’re a little woman who belongs at home.

Make homosexuals rule the left with an iron fist and leftist women are just the ladies auxiliary. That’s the message of the violent, drugged up trans movement.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 8, 2023 9:13 am

Dylan Mulvaney, dancing and prancing about, and it is a complete mockery of the female.

Yep. And while I don’t know about Nike it’s already having an effect on Budweiser.

Budweiser Distributor Cancels Clydesdales as Beer Drinkers Cancel Bud Light (7 Apr)

Kid Rock is not the only entertainer who has shown up on social media voicing their displeasure with Bud Light and Anheuser-Busch. Country music stars Travis Tritt and John Rich have also stated that they are dropping all Anheuser-Busch products from their tours and venues. Tritt claims to know of other country music entertainers doing the same thing but who are too afraid to say so publicly.

Alissa Heinersheid is the Vice President of Marketing for Anheuser-Busch. She has stated that “Female representation is a personal passion point of mine,” and added, “When we looked at this job to be done, attracting new drinkers, we started out with who we are and what do we stand for.”

She’s so passionate about female representation that she’s chosen a male who thinks it is a woman to attract women drinkers. As the story says lady I don’t think the outcome of this marketing campaign will be anything at all like what you thought it would.

flyingduk
flyingduk
April 8, 2023 9:14 am

ATAGI does not currently recommend a booster dose for children and adolescents aged under 18 years who do not have any risk factors for severe COVID-19.

And yet, last year, AHPRA listed cautioning against jabbing children as one of my Covid crimes: my exact words posted:

Dont rush it, healthy children have a ZERO risk of serious COVID, and a lifetime of risk of side effects (which are common, serious and being covered up) – pause to consider the ethics of giving children experimental drugs for a disease they don’t get, to benefit their grandparents!

Shockingly

1) One of my work colleagues (anonymously) reported me to AHPRA for that
2) AHPRA considered it an inappropriate comment and sanctioned me for it!

Fortunately for the public, I am no longer a Dr and the government will keep them safe.

Dot
Dot
April 8, 2023 9:15 am

‘They’ have had a very successful western depopulation method for decades heartily endorsed by the majority of the population.
It’s called high taxation,
the welfare state, contraception and abortion and it’s been working a treat.
Just look at any western nation’s year by year decrease in fertility for the last few decades.

All true.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 8, 2023 9:16 am

(For those who didn’t see the news Mr Mulvaney has also just been chosen by Budweiser as their new promoter for Bud Light.)

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 8, 2023 9:18 am

Wrong Tom. The trans obscenity is coming from the power elite. The shadowy characters like Soros. Soros is evil but I don’t believe Soros is a homosexual

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 8, 2023 9:18 am

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
April 8, 2023 at 7:27 am
I see Matt Taibbi is having a very bad day.

LOL. Monty now putting a bag over his head and hoping the Twitter files will go away.
You really don’t like the Left being revealed as fascists do you son?

Remember when the Twatter Files were just piccies of Hunter’s “nine-inch hog”? Now someone has “demolish[ed] the entire premise”. I guess that means that Hunter’s hog is only two inches long.

JC
JC
April 8, 2023 9:22 am

Coal price has halved since oct last year.

https://ycharts.com/indicators/australia_coal_price

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 8, 2023 9:25 am

m0ntysays:
April 8, 2023 at 7:55 am
Don’t make up lies about me, Cranky. You are very close to joining BJ in Coventry, because like him you are becoming extremely boring. At least BJ sticks to what I actually say in his endlessly dull Reply Guy posts.

Good to see that you read my comments m0nty=fa.

As for being “in Coventry”, you have me nixed up with someone who cares that you do not respond. Keep it up, you provide plenty of stupidity to cover without me having to enter into (pointless because you are a pig-headed idiot) debate with you.

Ready to condemn the crimes of communism yet?

MatrixTransform
April 8, 2023 9:25 am

the message of the violent, drugged up trans movement

power Tom, power

“1 -Target a respected institution 2 -Kill & clean it 3. -Wear it as a skin suit, while demanding respect.”

incidentally, try Google searching anything the came out of the Frankfurt School

AI is working exactly as designed

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 8, 2023 9:27 am

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
April 8, 2023 at 8:00 am
I hope you aren’t using toilet paper or a bidet Monty.
It’s bad for the Planet if you do.

It’s OK, because he sees bacteria everywhere, and is unable to tell the difference between pathogenic and non-pathogenic bacteria, he doesn’t bother, nor does he wash his hands.

calli
calli
April 8, 2023 9:30 am

I did that Trans and got a number of hits. What am I supposed to see, and what is missing?

Dot
Dot
April 8, 2023 9:32 am

If you work in catering (NSW) you still have to get tested regularly .. my youngest daughter (works in a restaurant) had all 23 x vax (to date) tested positive for the 3rd time last week .. no obvious symptoms she was/is aware of but still 7 days compulsory “sick” leave ……

We are an unserious nation and governed by the mentally retarded.

JC
JC
April 8, 2023 9:33 am

Trans, there’s plenty of stuff about the Frankfurt school as a search on Google. Maybe you’re still drunk.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Frankfurt-School

MatrixTransform
April 8, 2023 9:34 am

What am I supposed to see, and what is missing?

excellent question

now try Googling “Angela Dworkin quotes” and pick a page, any page

… try it again but this time add “pig” to the query

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 8, 2023 9:35 am

callisays:
April 8, 2023 at 8:01 am
NDIS services from taxi’s to garden care

And the frail elderly can take a hike.

That extended bleat on the old thread yesterday summed up the entitlement mentality of the whole scheme. Give to the screeching entitled, ignore the rest, and blow the budget. Then demand more munni.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 8, 2023 9:36 am

callisays:
April 8, 2023 at 8:03 am
Who is in Coventry? Boambee John? I thought I saw a comment last night.

m0nty=fa is the only one sending me to Coventry. I am sooooo sad that he never enters into debate with me these days.

JC
JC
April 8, 2023 9:37 am

Angela Dworkin is a pig.

Trans, that’s a search?

Are you sniffing paint on building sites?

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 8, 2023 9:40 am

The PGA Tour’s arrogance for decades as a virtual monopoly is coming home to roost …

Yep. The destruction of the US PGA is about the best thing that could happen for the game of golf. The BCCI of golf.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 8, 2023 9:40 am

MatrixTransformsays:
April 8, 2023 at 8:25 am
please don’t make up lies about me

nothing but the truth then,
the kiddie-groomer pervert apologist sounds sad today

You left out anti-Semite and apologist for tranny violence against women.

Dot
Dot
April 8, 2023 9:41 am

I am having a little trouble articulating this.

I do tend to think the feminist hive mind in academia and white collar workplaces is motivated somewhat by a motivation to not be directly confrontational with activists in minority groups who speak out of line.

It’s safety in numbers to say the least, but also overcompensation for the consequences of tacitly supporting stupid ideas.

MatrixTransform
April 8, 2023 9:41 am

sending me to Coventry

when I imagine mUnty crossing over this is what I see … simply gorgeous

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 8, 2023 9:44 am

rosie

‘They’ have had a very successful western depopulation method for decades heartily endorsed by the majority of the population.
It’s called high taxation,

Many upticks.

And the high taxation is used to buy off potential objectors with bread and circuses, or, to be classical, panem et circenses.

Crossie
Crossie
April 8, 2023 9:44 am

Pogria says:
April 8, 2023 at 7:53 am
“CLIMATE COACH Michael J. Coren: The typical person in the United States uses about 24 rolls of toilet paper per year. …”

Bruce, I reckon you could smell them now! sheesh, 24 rolls a year! I go through that in a week sometimes.

I burst out laughing at that one. Even granting that as a man he would need less loo paper than us girls he is still off by a zero and that is a conservative estimate.

This also reminds me of singer Cheryl Crow who advocated that you only needed a single sheet each time. I thought at the time that she must have a minion who wipes her bum not to know how it works. She must have missed the folders and scrunchers wars.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
April 8, 2023 9:46 am

Yucky, air con on last night which never happens in April. Very sticky and no rain.

Already 30deg outside and 80% humid. Meant to be the transition to the dry season FFS.

Apparently tomorrow going to be worse.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 8, 2023 9:46 am

m0ntysays:
April 8, 2023 at 8:36 am
The other reason I wouldn’t talk to you, Cranky, is that you are just so basic. Like BJ, you don’t actually have much going on upstairs. Life is too short to spend it talking to simple people.

LOL, I’ll put my Pure and Statistical Mathematics (graduated) against your B Ec (Failed) and B J’ism any day.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 8, 2023 9:49 am

I am not going to do what others do and mock you for your size, your lack of genitalia or who you chose to marry or how you generate your income. I genuinely believe you fathered your own children and that you love and are loved by those around you.

I can believe this too, Luzu, because many collectivists who haven’t yet seen the light can be good people. As indeed some historical Nazis seemed to be in their private lives while being atrocious in public. However, one thing I cannot ignore about M0nty, even if I walk by the other things you mentioned, especially his knowledge deficits and implicit anti-Semitism regarding Israel, is what Cassie expressed at 8.52am. M0nty in my view is turning Black Shirt over transgenderism. He genuinely supports fascist behaviour and sees nothing wrong with what happened to Posie Parker (Ms. Keen) in New Zealand. Until he walks back on that assessment, I have no further time for him here. It was wrong-headed. It aligned his sympathy for genuine transgender people (many of whom I feel sorry for as mostly psychiatric messes) with the transgender movement, which is a fascist and evil ideological oppression and which showed its true colours in NZ. If he can’t see that difference then he should hang his cock-eyed head in shame.

Crossie
Crossie
April 8, 2023 9:49 am

Bruce says:
April 8, 2023 at 8:00 am
Bruce of Newk (Nuke?):
“Obnoxious and violent trannies seem to be the next thing. And like Antifa and BLM they have impunity.”
They are being maneuvered to provoke a backlash from REAL people. Same deal with the other two “provocateur” groups.
Once that happens, the degenerate statists will administer “righteous punishment” on a cosmic scale.

All of these trannies remind me of the court jesters of old. They were obnoxious and insulting but as long as it was directed at other people the king was happy. Of course, should one make a mistake and even infer something derogatory about the king, off with his head. Eventually the trannies will offend someone important or stop being useful and they will be driven from polite society, meaning the media.

calli
calli
April 8, 2023 9:50 am

Found it Matrix.

She sounds like a loony. A violent, dangerous one.

Crossie
Crossie
April 8, 2023 9:53 am

Farmer Gez says:
April 8, 2023 at 8:00 am
I’m off to work.
You can thank me for what you are about to eat today Monty.

You Gaia raspist!

Frank
Frank
April 8, 2023 9:54 am

I’ll put my Pure and Statistical Mathematics (graduated)

Stats, how gauche.

calli
calli
April 8, 2023 9:54 am

And it’s Andrea, not Angela. Nothing angelic about that one.

Looks like she ate herself to death. She definitely looks and sounds rotisserie ready.

Crossie
Crossie
April 8, 2023 9:56 am

Bourne1879 says:
April 8, 2023 at 8:16 am
From Michael Smith regarding Ken Wyatt

Joe Aston from the Financial Review reported 5 years ago that Wyatt has been trying to get out (to Labor (

Hey, being a government minister pays more than being just a shadow minister, if even that after defecting.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 8, 2023 9:58 am

when I imagine mUnty crossing over this is what I see … simply gorgeous

Curse you – that’s a cup of Early Morning Coffee and a new keyboard you owe me.

MatrixTransform
April 8, 2023 9:59 am

And it’s Andrea, not Angela

oops,
I know
i gave up on bothering to correct my typos

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 8, 2023 9:59 am

feelthebern says:
April 8, 2023 at 8:54 am

A friend of mine, someone I’ve known since kindergarten, is in the last stages of their 7-8 year battle with cancer.
It’s a tragedy from start to finish.
And the cancer treatment industry in Australia is rort.

feelthebern,

I can only state positive treatment from the “Cancer Treatment Industry”, in fact I would regard my treatment by the Cancer/Hospital System over 22 years as living proof of an Excellent System

Your friend should try and get a referal to a Hospital Cancer Clinic assement – RNSH run a House like System, where having been referred, you attend a session with Multiple Specialists Disiplines, who assess your symptoms and plan an approach

The Basement RNSH Cancer Clicnic was always full, even during Covid and the Nursing Staff and Specialists amazing

https://www.nslhd.health.nsw.gov.au/Cancer/Pages/default.aspx

https://www.nslhd.health.nsw.gov.au/Services/Pages/FamilialCancer-RNS.aspx

https://www.canrefer.org.au/services/royal-north-shore-hospital

Black Ball
Black Ball
April 8, 2023 10:00 am

Lol thanks Salvatore for the Marcia Langton rubbish. She gave the game away didn’t she?
Can I just say, the ‘welcome’ should be only be performed by the men? Or not at all? Aboriginal society being patriarchal of course.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 8, 2023 10:03 am

The Paywallian being very careful about allowing comments on the Marcia Langton story. Along with Pearson, the “basket of deplorables” moment for the Voice?

Black Ball
Black Ball
April 8, 2023 10:07 am

Vikki Campion on Teh Voice:

Like trainwreck reality show Married At First Sight where contestants are married and then asked to fall in love with people they have never met, we have been asked to marry and then fall in love with a new racial clause in the Constitution without ever being given the fine print.

The reason reality TV marriages rarely last more than a few weeks is because when the details do emerge, they realise the union is untenable.

In this situation, the Yes case is not what we want but it’s what we have waiting at the altar.

We will be dragged down the aisle by Aunty Guilt and television producers forcing a guileless victim-villain narrative to live the rest of our lives in resentment.

But it’s a marriage we can never get a divorce from.

If we dare suggest that we don’t want to enshrine a political body that could be swiftly legislated into a risky, expensive and unnecessary constitutional change, we are cast as the shallow heartless villain who refuses to marry the philosopher, forever condemned.

The tone from the top drips down.

Every Question Time when the PM has been asked about Voice policy, he goes for character assassination of the questioner rather than being honest with details.

When Liberal leader Peter Dutton concluded that he would campaign against the Voice, the Yes case villainised him as quickly as a MAFS producer on their way to raise the ratings.

It would be great theatre, except our nation’s future hangs upon it.

What if Dutton had said this about senior Voice architect Noel Pearson as Pearson did about Dutton?

“I couldn’t sleep last night, I was troubled by dreams and the spectre of the Albanese Labor Party Judas betrayal of our country. I see the leader of the Labor Party, Mr Albanese, as an undertaker preparing the grave to bury all Australians being treated equally regardless of race.”

ABC commentators would be apoplectic on morning radio, calling for the immediate resignation of a divisive Opposition Leader as utterly unacceptable for our nation.

Yet for Pearson to say similar on the ABC about Peter Dutton? He gets a 16-minute armchair ride uninterrupted. It’s the Victim Edit, after all, spitting warranted rejection’s spite on the villain.

What if Dutton accused Pearson of being trapped in an “activist celebrity vortex” being used by left-wing think tanks to “punch down on white fellas” – as Pearson accused Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price of doing?

Pearson’s commentary spearheaded the Senator’s inbox being flooded with notes which are far too revolting and offensive to publish here.

Ah yes, the enlightened kind Yes case who wants to hear Indigenous voices. And you wonder why we are not busting to enshrine our union in the Constitution. As victims, the Yes case’s rudeness is virtuous, while the No case’s explained reasons are outrageous – of course, the basis for a fair appraisal of facts.

What if Dutton had said what Professor Marcia Langton, co-chair of the Indigenous Voice to Parliament design group, said about him: “I think they rely absolutely on deceit and misrepresentation and, I have to say, a great deal of ignorance. They want to sow confusion and doubt.”

Dutton would be obliterated from public discourse immediately.

That the proponents of the Yes case in the media and the Prime Minister’s office have been so quick to remove it from a debate requiring careful consideration of consequences, especially the impact on the executive – to name a few, cabinet ministers, the PM, the Governor-General, the Reserve Bank governor and the chief of the Defence Force – to a discussion as binary as a reality show edit, shows how much work they have to do.

Victim = Yes. Villain = No.

It just does not cut it.

Documents from the original working group released under Freedom of Information laws reveal that “any Voice to Parliament should be designed so that it could support and promote a treaty-making process” and that treaty must include a “fixed percentage of Gross National Product. Rates/land tax/royalties”.

Meeting minutes also reveal changing the names on the map so that “Aboriginal names for places and things across Australia should be the norm, and used by wider Australia” and changing the flag because “the Australian flag symbolised the injustices of colonisation”.

“The Dialogues discussed that a Treaty could include a proper say in decision-making, the establishment of a truth commission, reparations, a financial settlement (such as seeking a percentage of GDP), the resolution of land, water and resources issues, recognition of authority and customary law, and guarantees of respect for the rights of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples,” the documents released by the National Indigenous Australian’s Agency said.

Treaty, too was discussed as requiring constitutional force.

Why should we have to rely on FOI to get this detail?

Why can’t the Yes case be clear rather than being deliberately evasive to the undecided?

If the Yes case is being honest that the Voice is an advisory body and not a precursor to treaty to take a percentage of GDP and GNP, why does it need constitutional power? Why not legislate it now?

And what is the point of a constitutional change when the Prime Minister and Yes case advocates within both Labor and the Coalition routinely fail to meet with Indigenous people who make an effort to come to Canberra, including former Minister Ken Wyatt, who flatly ignored a delegation who came to Parliament to call for action on their murdered sisters? Apparently, it wasn’t the Voice the then-minister wanted to hear. That edit doesn’t fit the narrative, so it inevitably ends up on the cutting room floor.

shatterzzz
April 8, 2023 10:07 am

The PGA Tour’s arrogance for decades as a virtual monopoly is coming home to roost …

Luck of the draw Koepka fgot thru his round before the weather took over …!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 8, 2023 10:09 am

From the Oz – I’ve posted the whole article.

Indigenous voice to parliament will create co-government and cause policy chaos
Janet Albrechtsen Follow @jkalbrechtsen Janet Albrechtsen

12:00AM April 8, 2023
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The declared aim of the Yes advocates who have led the drafting of the proposal to place the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander voice in the Constitution is co-government. Co-government is also what the words of the proposed amendment will achieve.

The day the voice is constituted, its lawyers will likely advise it to send a letter such as the one set out on this page, or take action to the same effect to establish joint sovereignty structures. I have been working with three of the nation’s most prominent constitutional and administrative lawyers to draft a letter the voice could send on day one to demand the rights that are given to it by the Constitution.

The Prime Minister plainly misunderstands the legal impact of his proposed wording, although it would seem the Solicitor-General does not. Anthony Albanese misled parliament – and the people – when he said parliament would retain primacy over how the voice operated and what it considered.
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He was immediately rebuked by professors George Williams and Anne Twomey, who said parliament would not be the final arbiter of the voice’s reach. Indeed, Williams said: “That’s the point of putting things in the Constitution, it puts them beyond the parliament.”

Even more powerfully, last weekend in these pages, voice ­advocates professors Megan Davis and Gabrielle Appleby told the PM the “question of when the voice will speak and to whom” was not for parliament but for the voice ­itself. Parliament, they said, “can’t shut the voice up”.

The true purpose of the amendment is to transfer power from parliament and government to the courts, allowing the voice to hogtie (to borrow Greg Craven’s colourful but accurate word) parliament and the executive government.

The power of the voice to delay executive action by use of its rights to be heard and to litigate will mean every executive body of government must negotiate with the voice on everything it plans to do, in advance, if it is caught in the wide net of any “matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples”. This creates co-sovereignty between our organs of government on the one hand, and the voice on the other.

This is not my assertion. This is the explicit aim of the Uluru Statement. Read the work of legal academics who have master­minded this theory of split sovereignty. An academic paper earlier this year by Professor Appleby and her colleagues Ron Levy and Helen Whalan laid out the blueprint for all to see.

The academics describe the belief of non-Indigenous people that “the Australian state’s sovereignty is ultimate and exclusive” as a mere “assumption”. They claim that Australia suffers from a crisis of “constitutional legitimacy”.

This would likely surprise the vast majority of Australians.

While the authors may find “disagreement with the authority of our constitutional order”, the accepted position on sovereignty was laid out by then chief justice Anthony Mason in Coe v Commonwealth (No 2) in 1993. Mason said the High Court in the Mabo decision clearly rejected “the notion that there resides in the Aboriginal people a limited kind of sovereignty embraced in the notion that they are a ‘domestic dependent nation’ entitled to self-government”.

Too little attention has been focused on the fact the Uluru Statement explicitly rejects the sole sovereignty of the Australian Crown. Moreover, there is a vast and flourishing industry of legal academics represented by Appleby and co, but also many others in our law schools, and applauded by the legal profession, which seeks, or at least waves through, this radical change. The change desired, to borrow from Appleby’s blueprint, is constitutional change which “may allow the voice, working with parliament, to be an alternative site for decision-making about how settler and First Nations communities can manage their shared (or conflicting) resources, institutions and spaces in ways that accommodate each community to the other”. The aim here is clearly not parliamentary primacy, Prime Minister, but rather shared power.

Including the power to make representations to “executive government” in the proposed constitutional amendment is critical to this co-sovereignty. Those few words brings with them an enormous body of public administrative law governing the way courts will be able to interpret the voice’s powers, offering the voice power to delay government decisions. This body of law will be used by the High Court, cannot be ousted by parliament and will give the voice rights of procedural fairness.

These rights include, but are by no means limited to, the right to be given advance notice of matters within the voice’s remit; the right to be given sufficient time and resources to consider the matter; and proper consideration of any representation it makes.

The voice will, if properly advised, demand all these rights on the first day it is constituted.

The letter in the accompanying box is but one example. The voice will have many other ways to enforce its rights if it chooses. The methodology could vary but the result will be the same: a radically different form of government for the country, where, across large swathes of executive government, there is co-government.

A letter the voice could write to bureaucrats

Dear (insert name of head of relevant department/agency/government business enterprise),

As you know, the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander voice has been given a constitutional right by the Australian people to make representations on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.

That right is not limited to making representations about matters that have a direct or special or substantial or different effect on ATSI people. The voice has a constitutional right to make representations about any matters that may relate even indirectly to ATSI people and about matters that affect all Australians.

The voice hereby advises that we will make representations to you on the following matters, at least: (insert matters relevant to the bureaucrat/department/agency/, for example, in the letter to Treasury, APRA or the RBA this will include any change in interest rate policy, bank lending and consumer credit policy or policies concerning regulation of financial services entities.

In the letter to the Dept of the Environment, it will cover every proposal for development of any mineral, mining or hydrocarbon project, or any dam or other infrastructure. In the letter to the Department of Health it will include every proposal to build, replace or renew any health facility, every proposal for expenditure on health policy, and every alteration of health policy).

For the voice’s constitutional right to make representations to have practical effect, the voice must be given advance notice by your (department/agency/body) of any proposed decision, evaluation, assessment, expenditure, policy change, or any other matter that may relate to ATSI people.

Advance notice of decisions is essential so that the voice has the opportunity to obtain information about the matter and then make a representation if appropriate. This view is reflected in the voice design principles released by the government, which provide (among other things) that:

• The voice will be able to make representations proactively.

• The voice will have its own resources to allow it to research, develop and make representations.

• The parliament and executive government should seek representations in writing from the voice early in the development of proposed laws and policies.

Accordingly, in addition to the specific matters listed above, the voice hereby requires you to give us advance notice of any proposed decision, evaluation, assessment, expenditure, policy change, or any other matter that may relate to ATSI people.

Given that the voice’s constitutional right to make representations is not limited by reference to the size or importance of a matter relating to ATSI people, you must not censor or filter matters upon which we may wish to make a representation. While we may not wish to pursue minor or trivial matters, we wish to make that judgment, not have you make it for us.

In order to give the voice adequate time to consider such matters and formulate any representations, we require you to give us notice of all relevant matters as soon as such matter arises and, in any event, at least 90 days before the decision, evaluation, assessment, expenditure, policy change, or other matter is made.

You must provide all documents, and access to all your personnel, which the voice considers appropriate to enable it to effectively make representations … this means that any material that is before a decision maker, or during the development of a policy must be made available to the voice if the voice requests it.

We put you on notice that you must not implement any such matters unless the voice has been given the time to make proper representations and discuss them with you.

The voice is in the process of hiring qualified professionals to enable it to exercise properly our right to make representations in every area of government which affects ATSI people. In the interim we will have (insert number) voice officers dedicated to monitoring matters that arise in your (department/agency/body), and we propose at least (number) will be permanently embedded in your offices to enable the voice to work effectively.

We envisage that in the fullness of time there will be a voice agency within your (department/agency/body) so that effective oversight of your policy development, policies and decision making can be carried out by the voice on a continuous and ongoing basis.

Please note that failure to comply with the requirements contained in this letter or to give proper consideration to any representations made by the voice may render any action taken by you liable to challenge by the voice in the courts, with the real risk that any decision taken will be rendered invalid until we have been given time to exercise our constitutional right to make representations.

Where we deem necessary, we will not hesitate to prosecute the constitutional guarantee which has been afforded to us by the Australian people, including seeking injunctive relief to prevent the making of a decision which affects ATSI people, to ensure that our right to make representations has been provided in a way that is both substantive and practical.

Moreover, you will be aware that s 75(v) of the Constitution provides an irremovable right to judicial review of any unlawful decision made by an officer of the commonwealth affecting that person’s interests. Please be aware that the voice takes the view that s75(v) protects it, or any other persons affected by any final decisions made by an officer of the commonwealth relating to ATSI people.

Please be advised that if your department makes a final decision which affects ATSI people and during the process of making that decision fails to give due consideration, does not provide the voice procedural fairness, or considers the representations in an unreasonable way (in other words, if you do anything which provides the basis for a constitutional writ under s 75(v) of the Constitution) we will not hesitate to commence action in the Federal Court of Australia to invalidate that decision.

We are in the process of establishing a Voice Legal Affairs unit which will be equipped to provide legal advice to staff in your (department/agency/body) so that they may better understand their legal obligations and the broader administrative law implications of our constitutional right to make representations. We will advise you when the VLA is established and look forward to working with your (department/agency/body) so that the representations of the voice are received in a way that conforms with the Constitution.

In the meantime, we suggest that your staff undergo legal training concerning the obligations on them to take due consideration of any representations by the voice which are constitutionally mandated for consideration.

Your sincerely,
(insert name)
CEO, The Voice,
Canberra

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 8, 2023 10:18 am

The Dialogues discussed that a Treaty could include a proper say in decision-making, the establishment of a truth commission, reparations, a financial settlement (such as seeking a percentage of GDP), the resolution of land, water and resources issues, recognition of authority and customary law, and guarantees of respect for the rights of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples,” the documents released by the National Indigenous Australian’s Agency said.

All of which will ensure a legal dogfight that will keep the High Court busy for the next seventy years or so.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 8, 2023 10:22 am

Rob
57 minutes ago
‘Vote ‘No’ and you won’t get a welcome to country again’

Can we get that written down and signed ?
Jonno
58 minutes ago
“Vote ‘No’ and you won’t get a welcome to country again”

How I would welcome the day I didn’t have to endure another ‘welcome’ to my own country.

From the Oz article on Marcia Langton – 29 comments so far, none in support of Marcia.

Razey
Razey
April 8, 2023 10:22 am

Anyone who thinks the ‘Voice’ wont get up is kidding themselves. Most of us probably thought that Australians would never accept clotshot mandates and lockdowns. Never thought they’d vote the criminals back into power. And now they think the ‘Voice’ wont get up. It WILL get up, and there’s nothing you can do about it. I don’t like it anymore than you.

Roger
Roger
April 8, 2023 10:23 am

And what is the point of a constitutional change when the Prime Minister and Yes case advocates within both Labor and the Coalition routinely fail to meet with Indigenous people who make an effort to come to Canberra, including former Minister Ken Wyatt, who flatly ignored a delegation who came to Parliament to call for action on their murdered sisters?

As Ken Wyatt said after tendering his resignation from the Liberal Party, “Aboriginal people are reaching out to be heard but the Liberals have rejected their invitation.”

Erm…what was that about rejection, Ken?

His current gig is on the government’s referendum working group, btw.

No doubt he sees a role for himself in The Voice should it get up.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 8, 2023 10:24 am

Aileen
47 minutes ago
Gosh Marcie Old Dear….you truly promise the Welcome to Country won’t be foisted upon us if we vote NO? Pinky promise? As to looking you in the eye, gosh another bonus, although I hope that means you will remove yourself from appearing in the Media as well! Take all your buddies with you too, fed up seeing all you Elitists every time I open a newspaper.
Ian
47 minutes ago
Thanks Marcia. An excellent inducement to vote NO.
Kenneth
47 minutes ago
A No vote means no more annoying ‘welcome to country’ ceremonies- just made my mind up- No it is.
Bradley
48 minutes ago
I won’t miss it. I can stay seated at the footy instead of walking out to the bar to avoid it.

shatterzzz
April 8, 2023 10:25 am

I can only state positive treatment from the “Cancer Treatment Industry”, in fact I would regard my treatment by the Cancer/Hospital System over 22 years as living proof of an Excellent System

Have to agree .. after being admitted to Nepean Hospital almost dead (3 weeks prediction) following a missed diagnosis of Non Hodgins Lymphoma … and only my Medicare card as back-up after ..
“Don’t worry”, the local quack said, “your just getting old, it’ll pass” .. FFS! ..
operated on (exploratory) within hours, 2 weeks in-hospital intensive chemo and then 3 months out-patient fortnightly chemo I made a complete recovery .. that was back in 2012 (64) and now at 75 I’m fitter & healthier than I was at 30 ..
shame about the head but ya can’t have it all .. it seems! .. LOL!

Razey
Razey
April 8, 2023 10:27 am

that was back in 2012 (64) and now at 75 I’m fitter & healthier than I was at 30 ..

I’m hoping when the time comes that little blue pill is all they say it is. 😛

m0nty
m0nty
April 8, 2023 10:29 am

The thing is with Cassie, though, she has you to rights. You are an apologist for behaviours towards children that most adults find alarming or threatening. You have minimised the violence and threats of violence against women who ask for biological female spaces to be preserved as such. You do seem to be profoundly hostile towards and yet remarkably uninformed about the modern state of Israel and its people.

You are right, Luzu, on the Israel thing which is why I hardly ever comment on it. I said one thing once about how the Palestinians might (might!) have a valid point of view about their ongoing survival as a nation, and Cranky has pretended that I have been an anti-Zionist zealot for years. She continues to lie and lie about it.

As for TERFs, it is a Pommy phenomenon that belongs in their toxic Tory politics and should not be exported here. We have enough poisonous reptiles native to Australia.

Posie Parker came here to cause trouble, and trouble eventually arrived. She declares she is not a feminist, and I believe her. She is not defending freedom, she wants to remove it. She has Nazis on her side, literally.

The fact that you lot are on her side is a signifier that all vestiges of small-l liberalism have been purged from the right wing. It is now exclusively a movement of grievance, hate and division. Not to mention conspiracism.

Culture wars like this trans moral panic were invented by the rich elites to fool you into voting for their lackeys. They have been going so long that the generation of politicians who lead you – and the voters they grift from – don’t remember or realise that it is all supposed to be a joke. Marjorie Taylor Greene actually believes that Hillary Clinton kills babies and wears their skins as a suit. You lot actually think that George Soros is a one-man Rothschilds conspiracy, Klaus Schwab is the real ruler of the world and Anthony Fauci is worse than Mengele.

Trans people are just trying to live their lives in peace. You lot are the weirdos, passing laws to force genital inspections of minors for school sports. Sick stuff, but you want to punish non-cis people for their very existence.

I can take the abuse, but don’t pretend you are in the majority on anything. You are cranks, losers in life whose chickens are now coming home to roost electorally. Welcome to irrelevancy.

Delta A
Delta A
April 8, 2023 10:35 am

Psays:
April 7, 2023 at 9:51 pm
When I Survey the Wondrous Cross

Thank you, P. That beautiful hymn has been in my head all week. It was lovely to hear it sung in church.

Vicki
Vicki
April 8, 2023 10:39 am

Anyone who thinks the ‘Voice’ wont get up is kidding themselves. Most of us probably thought that Australians would never accept clotshot mandates and lockdowns.

Sadly, I have to agree. Australians have become the most compliant and uninformed people in the world. I don’t think one can entirely blame the relatively blissful climate in coastal Australia, where most of the mugs live. But the prosperous lifestyle that has evolved post war must bear a lot of the blame. That will probably change radically in the next few years, and the mugs won’t know what has happened.

lotocoti
lotocoti
April 8, 2023 10:39 am

I am an awesome person.
Everything, right down to the You Go Grrl friends from diverse backgrounds
is too perfect not to be a parody.
You are, however, a hater if you think it is.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 8, 2023 10:39 am
JMH
JMH
April 8, 2023 10:42 am

A letter the voice could write to bureaucrats

Bloody hell! I sincerely hope that piece is circulated wide and far through the halls of Parliament – because it needs to be. Also, what’s the bet the Screechers have already cut and pasted it into a document for future use, saving them a heap of research.

P
P
April 8, 2023 10:51 am

Thank you, P. That beautiful hymn has been in my head all week. It was lovely to hear it sung in church.

Delta, I woke this morning with it still playing in my head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKVtY0mViJw&t=5830s

shatterzzz
April 8, 2023 10:52 am

Sadly, I have to agree. Australians have become the most compliant and uninformed people in the world.

Yep, One Nation should have dun a lot better in the NSW elections than just holding their own .. the lack of traction appears to come from folk who read our sort of blogs being like-minded .. the target audience, most of the vote-herd, is, apparently, happy to follow the widely publicised media & pollie-speak dictates without venturing further afield …….

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 8, 2023 10:54 am

Instructive that the Voice issues now emerging in the media have been fairly thoroughly canvassed on the Cat these past few months.

In many respects, this is a similar situation to other ‘in plain sight’ national debacles – Net Zero and the Covid response spring to mind.

Unfortunately, for the same reasons of inertia and hopeywishfulness on the part of the citizenry, it is likely that the Voice will scrape over the Referendum line.

If it does, in a few years time Australians will be looking sadly at the wreckage as Government-enabled looters plunder and blunder in plain sight. Just as we are now at a failed energy economy, an indigenous Submarine industry-led recovery, and Trillion Dollar Covid.

The penalty for Australia trusting government that operates on the basis of ‘let’s see what happens if I stick a fork in that power socket’.

Happy Easter to all Cats.

JC
JC
April 8, 2023 10:55 am

Anyone who thinks the ‘Voice’ wont get up is kidding themselves.

I don’t think it will make it. 54% to 46% in the polls doesn’t suggest it. And this is before the Libs said they wouldn’t support it. It’s not going to get through.

Bar Beach Swimmer
April 8, 2023 10:56 am

What I don’t get is why companies like Nike set out to insult their customers. Politics before business?

Why would Langton think that Australians in general would be upset if the vote goes down leading to no more welcome to country thingies? These people live in a bubble where all they hear/see/think is the same and nothing outside that echo chamber is allowed in to be able to sully the sensibilities of the moral outrage crowd.

As to the relationship between business and customers; the HR dept is running everything and it’s only when the customer base as a whole arks up that there is back tracking.

cohenite
April 8, 2023 10:57 am

Is dickless really defending that Riley Gaines assault?

Razey
Razey
April 8, 2023 11:01 am

JCsays:
April 8, 2023 at 10:55 am
Anyone who thinks the ‘Voice’ wont get up is kidding themselves.

I don’t think it will make it. 54% to 46% in the polls doesn’t suggest it. And this is before the Libs said they wouldn’t support it. It’s not going to get through.

I hope you are right. I need this win.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 8, 2023 11:01 am

How are they going to ever ask an Indigenous person, a Traditional Owner, for a welcome to country? How are they ever going to be able to ask me to come and speak at their conference?

If they have the temerity to do it, of course the answer is going to be no.”

LOL this is better than ‘conservative’ Noel Pearson threatening to go silent if the Voice doesn’t get up.

‘k bye, Noel.

They keep giving me more and more reasons to vote no. More threats, please!

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 8, 2023 11:03 am

Anyone who thinks the ‘Voice’ wont get up is kidding themselves

I’ve thought it was doomed from the start. But I also thought the number of Teal representatives would be zero so what do I know? Liars past success on referendums is woeful, the electorate just doesn’t trust them and compulsory preferential voting can’t save the day.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 8, 2023 11:03 am

54% to 46% in the polls doesn’t suggest it.

And the polls are likely dodgy.

JC
JC
April 8, 2023 11:05 am

Dover

That verdict is going to the appeals court. Austin is a very blue city, and he had zero chances of making it through. Now, I don’t know enough about the case to assume what we’re being told is true.
But
An AK47 was pointed at him, and he shot first. This just doesn’t sound plausible to me. The dead guy with the AK47 had the advantage, as the description suggests he was pointing the AK at the Uber driver. Why didn’t he shoot first when “Uber” was fidgeting around with the handgun?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 8, 2023 11:07 am

Vikki Campion on Teh Voice:

Like trainwreck reality show Married At First Sight where contestants are married and then asked to fall in love with people they have never met, we have been asked to marry and then fall in love with a new racial clause in the Constitution without ever being given the fine print.

How you all laughed at my interest in MAFS as a study of the social media me generation.
Vikki is hip with the kids.

JC
JC
April 8, 2023 11:10 am

I hope you are right. I need this win.

But I’m always optimistic. 🙂

Just going from memory, the polls have been around this spread for ages. The Albanian and the rest of the liars have thrown the kitchen sink at this while the Libs have essentially remained silent. This isn’t a good position for the yes vote in my opinion as the spread hasn’t increased and it’s quite thin.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 8, 2023 11:15 am

The thing is that we haven’t had a referendum since 1999 and the country’s changed a LOT since then. I’m far from certain the old rules about the factors that tend to doom a referendum still apply.*

Historically, you would expect one of the Majors coming out hard against the proposed constitutional change to sink the entire endeavour.

*those old rules may not even have applied in 1999, considering the republican model put forward was inherently unpopular

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 8, 2023 11:15 am

And this is before the Libs said they wouldn’t support it. It’s not going to get through.
They’re going to take Dutton out of the picture with this Inquiry into the AFP handling of the Lehrmann Prosecution.

Once that’s done, the Liberals will fold and it’s all over.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 8, 2023 11:15 am

Tucker Carlson: NPR Is State Media, Elon Musk Has Used English As It Was Intended In Order To Tell The Truth

TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS:

On Tuesday, two days ago, Twitter slapped a warning label on all tweets from National Public Radio. Going forward, NPR will be identified for users of Elon Musk’s social media site as “state-affiliated media.” That is the same category as Russia Today or China Central Television. It means that NPR is not that different from the Tehran Times, with the exception, of course, of being less accurate and more anti-American.

That happened on Tuesday. Why are we telling you about it? With all the momentous changes underway around the world, why would we open a show with a story about Twitter re-categorizing NPR as state media? Well, because it’s true. That’s the reason.

Finally, thankfully, somebody in authority has told the truth about something, and that is thrilling to see on its own terms.

In a world defined by lies from our leaders, this seemed like a rare sign of hope and progress. Telling the truth is the most revolutionary act of all, far more than taking up arms, and yet you rarely see it. Human beings created language to describe the world around them more precisely than they could with, say, grunting or sign language, but unfortunately have been subverting our own creation ever since, but not tonight.

By calling National Public Radio what it is, Elon Musk has used English as it was intended to be used in order to tell the truth. Of course, NPR is state media.

Have you listened to it? It has all the hallmarks: repetitive dishonesty, authoritarian politics, unwavering devotion to the party in charge. Of course, that could describe virtually all media in this country. The difference is the state actually pays for NPR. NPR was created more than 50 years ago by a law signed by Democrat Lyndon Johnson. It was called the Public Broadcasting Act and from its very first day, NPR was wholly dependent on tax dollars in order to exist, and it still is. “Federal funding is essential to NPR,” explains NPR’s own website. So, there is no factual debate about that fact, but there is a great deal of lying about it.

Every year, NPR lobbyists head to Capitol Hill to demand more tax dollars. “Democracy can’t exist without us,” they screech, while simultaneously at the very same time telling you at high volume that NPR takes virtually no tax money. “So, we don’t need federal subsidies. Don’t even want them, really, but you have to increase them.” That is NPR’s line and has been for decades under the political leadership of both parties, and it’s essentially unchallenged by anyone. It just stays. Wars and recessions come and go, but NPR funding remains, but after more than half a century, it is very clear that there is nothing public about National Public Radio. NPR is the radio station of permanent Washington. That’s who pays for it. That’s who benefits from it. By adding three simple words to NPR’s tweets, Elon Musk exposed that forever to the world. Such is the power of truth. It exposes and, of course, it infuriates those who are exposed.

NPR howled in outrage, but with its signature pursed-lipped fussiness. Here’s a direct quote from a piece on NPR’s website, which really does belong in the Museum of Uptight Liberalism: “NPR officials have asked Twitter to remove the label. They initially assumed it was applied by mistake,” NPR spokesperson Isabel Lara said. “We were not warned. It happened quite suddenly last night,” Lara said. In response to an NPR email for the story seeking comment and requesting details about what in particular might have led to the new designation, Twitter’s press account auto-replied with a poop emoji.

It was just so perfect, you couldn’t improve it. “Hey, Twitter. Stop calling us what we are,”

OK, NPR. Here’s a skat cartoon. She can forget the rockets and the electric cars. Elon Musk is a hero for this alone, but NPR wasn’t finished. It still had fight. National Public Radio was so angry, so enraged to be called state media that its supporters enlisted the help of the regime’s top spokeswoman to claim otherwise.

“Stop calling it propaganda,” said the propagandist. Again, it’s an irony-free zone and just too great.

KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: There’s no doubt of the independence of NPR’s journalists and it has been, if you’ve ever been on the receiving end of their questions, you know this. You know that they have their independence in journalism. NPR journalists work diligently to hold public officials accountable and inform the American people. The hard-hitting, independent nature of their coverage speaks for itself, and so I’ll leave it there.

That is so Baghdad Bob, it’s unbelievable. Here she is reading a press release for NPR that tells us they are famous for hard-hitting independence, which speaks for itself. Really? How many tough questions have they asked you, Karine Jean-Pierre? Not a single one. They’re fluffing her every day. “She’s so smart” — and so she pays them back. Hard-hitting independence.

This is the same radio station that in the final days of the last presidential campaign took a look at the biggest political story in years, the New York Post story on Biden’s laptop, and then ignored it completely — and not only ignored it completely, but because they are fussy and self-righteous to their very core, they bragged about how they were ignoring it completely. “We don’t want to waste our time on stories that are not really stories,” said NPR’s managing editor Terence Samuel, “and we don’t want to waste listeners’ and readers’ time on stories that are just pure distractions.”

Two weeks before a presidential campaign, we find out the Democratic candidate has been taking money from a foreign adversary, but that’s just a distraction. So, whatever happened to Terence Samuel? What did he get in return for helping Joe Biden become president at the state-affiliated media network he serves? Well, Terence Samuel has since been promoted to NPR’s executive editor, but he still has time to spare because it’s not that hard to put “Morning Sedition” on the air. You know what he does in his spare time? Terence Samuel hosts seminars on recruiting “disinformation and democracy” at something called American University, and no, we’re not making any of this up, nor are we fabricating NPR’s report from just last month that informed us male athletes have no inherent performance advantages over female athletes. None at all.

That is a fact, ladies and gentlemen. Men and women are physically the same size. They have the same muscle mass. There is no difference whatsoever in their bone structure. We checked with experts. So, as you know,

NPR is famous for its widely respected science coverage, but that’s not the only reason that NPR is now the go-to news source for unhappy female attorneys over 50.

No, there’s more to it than that. There are the lifestyle pieces, the features, as they used to say in the newspaper business. Here’s a piece, for example, on how one African-American Barbie doll, ahead of its time in the toy industry, changed the life of a Latinx girl forever.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 8, 2023 11:21 am

BB, earlier:

Lol thanks Salvatore for the Marcia Langton rubbish. She gave the game away didn’t she?

Yes. Yes, she did. Also:

Anyone who thinks the ‘Voice’ wont get up is kidding themselves. Most of us probably thought that Australians would never accept clotshot mandates and lockdowns.

I believe that ‘most of us’ were prepared to accept at some level that shit such as the Welcome to Country before any event of substance was a tokenistic, yet relatively inexpensive rah rah ‘acknowledgment’ that didn’t really mean anything. You had to wait a few minutes and zone out before you got to watch/do what you’re there for. Morally unpleasant and offensive, but that was it.

When people realise that the Voice will entail the construction of a gargantuan, entirely new level of government, costing at least the $33 billion annually given to the indig the punter already pays for, and for which the bill will very much smack those same average punters right in the nuts, it will become much, much more than having an abstract opinion on something – which is why the SSM vote got up. It didn’t actually cost Joe and Jane Mortgage anything.

The Covid mandates and lockdowns instilled a deep distrust of ‘do it because we know what’s good for you, listen to this expert here’ in the average punter. Because it’s still very recent memory, I reckon it will – at least in part – sink the Voice, because people are no longer prepared to accept that government must be followed unconditionally.

Nobody was given the fine print for Covid. Nobody’s getting the fine print for the Voice. When feeling warm and fuzzy starts costing a shit tin of people’s own cash, it’s never going to end well.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 8, 2023 11:22 am

The thing is that we haven’t had a referendum since 1999 and the country’s changed a LOT since then.

Yeah, NSW and Victoria have been loaded up with migrants.
Those migrants will be bloc voting as directed by their community leaders, who have been instructed by FECCA [the Peak Body] to vote YES.

Tasmanian Aboriginals were exterminated, so they’re voting YES, because they think it won’t affect them, plus the place is infested with stupid Germans.
That leaves QLD, WA & SA to save Australia.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 8, 2023 11:22 am

Shatterzz, “shame about the head”. Nothing wrong with the acuity so it must be the looks or the lack of them.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 8, 2023 11:23 am

Inside the CEI system pushing brands to endorse celebs like Dylan Mulvaney

Executives at companies like Nike, Anheuser-Busch and Kate Spade, whose brand endorsements have turned controversial trans influencer Dylan Mulvaney into today’s woke “It girl,” aren’t just virtue signaling.

They’re handing out lucrative deals to what were once considered fringe celebrities because they have to — or risk failing an all-important social credit score that could make or break their businesses.

At stake is their Corporate Equality Index — or CEI — score, which is overseen by the Human Rights Campaign, the largest LGBTQ+ political lobbying group in the world.

HRC, which has received millions from George Soros’ Open Society Foundation among others, issues report cards for America’s biggest corporations via the CEI: awarding or subtracting points for how well companies adhere to what HRC calls its “rating criteria.”

Businesses that attain the maximum 100 total points earn the coveted title “Best Place To Work For LGBTQ Equality.” Fifteen of the top 20 Fortune-ranked companies received 100% ratings last year, according to HRC data.

More than 840 US companies racked up high CEI scores, according to the latest report.

The HRC, which was formed in 1980 and started the CEI in 2002, is led by Kelley Robinson who was named as president in 2022 and worked as a political organizer for Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign.

The HRC lists four major rating criteria, each with its own lengthy subsets, for companies to gain — or lose — CEI points.

The main categories are: “Workforce Protections,” “Inclusive Benefits,” “Supporting an Inclusive Culture,” “Corporate Social Responsibility and Responsible Citizenship.”

A company can lose CEI points if it doesn’t fulfill HRC’s demand for “integration of intersectionality in professional development, skills-based or other training” or if it doesn’t use a “supplier diversity program with demonstrated effort to include certified LGBTQ+ suppliers.”

James Lindsay, a political podcaster who runs a site called New Discourses, told The Post that the Human Rights campaign administers the CEI ranking “like an extortion racket, like the Mafia.

It doesn’t just sit back passively either. HRC sends representatives to corporations every year telling them what kind of stuff they have to make visible at the company. They give them a list of demands and if they don’t follow through there’s a threat that you won’t keep your CEI score.”

cohenite
April 8, 2023 11:25 am

Fu.king budlight coping it with some great ads opposing it:

https://rumble.com/v2gszxu-hilarious-reactions-to-bud-light-suicide-by-commercial.html

shatterzzz
April 8, 2023 11:25 am

Nobody was given the fine print for Covid. Nobody’s getting the fine print for the Voice. When feeling warm and fuzzy starts costing a shit tin of people’s own cash, it’s never going to end well.

A lot of the problem will be that there are lotza folk out there that NEVER seem to equate gummint money as being their money …..!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 8, 2023 11:28 am

I can’t believe that Bud Light’s decided to go down the Gillette path. Companies are lining up to do this, much like Bart Simpson repeatedly grabbing the electrified pellet.

Actually, I probably can believe it.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 8, 2023 11:28 am

Thinking back to the last referendum – there were three campaigns at work there. One for Yes and two for No. One of the No camps was the status quo/monarchists. The other was the yes to a republic but no to this republic.

It was the latter camp that did for team Yes. Say no to the politician’s republic! (Not an unreasonable position to hold, incidentally – I’m not saying this was insincere.)

Is it just me or are the Libs cribbing this strategy? Yes to a Voice but not this Voice. Say no to the politician’s Voice*!

The problem is that I suspect the Libs are being less than sincere here, and I also suspect much of the public will feel similarly. I’d rather the Libs made the case on the basis that it’s very risky to add the Voice provisions to the constitution, but that would take some political courage.

*a slogan I could get behind in virtually every other context I can think of

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
April 8, 2023 11:29 am

I don’t think it will make it. 54% to 46% in the polls doesn’t suggest it. And this is before the Libs said they wouldn’t support it. It’s not going to get through.

While I certainly hope it fails, I am reminded of my granddad, who said “You will never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the average Australian voter.”

JC
JC
April 8, 2023 11:33 am

cohenite says:
April 8, 2023 at 11:25 am

Fu.king budlight copping it with some great ads opposing it:

https://rumble.com/v2gszxu-hilarious-reactions-to-bud-light-suicide-by-commercial.html

Hahahahahaha

The beer if you’re queer.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 8, 2023 11:35 am

Rabz says: April 7, 2023 at 10:34 pm

They can film you in bed
Or when you take a bath …

Any particular reason you keep linking to that song?

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