Open Thread – Weekend 15 April 2023


A Game of Preference, Viktor Vasnetsov, 1879

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pete of perth
pete of perth
April 15, 2023 12:49 am

This side of the country still here. Xi hasn’t annexed us yet.

John H.
John H.
April 15, 2023 1:45 am

areffsays:
April 14, 2023 at 11:42 pm
Rabz, I think your quote may be Heine. This quote at his Wikipedia page:

…. German thunder is of true Germanic character; it is not very nimble, but rumbles along ponderously. Yet, it will come and when you hear a crashing such as never before has been heard in the world’s history, then you know that the German thunderbolt has fallen at last. At that uproar the eagles of the air will drop dead, and lions in the remotest deserts of Africa will hide in their royal dens. A play will be performed in Germany which will make the French Revolution look like an innocent idyll….

Heine may have been self-referential:

“Mine is a most peaceable disposition. My wishes are: a humble cottage with a thatched roof, but a good bed, good food, the freshest milk and butter, flowers before my window, and a few fine trees before my door; and if God wants to make my happiness complete, he will grant me the joy of seeing some six or seven of my enemies hanging from those trees. Before death I shall, moved in my heart, forgive them all the wrong they did me in their lifetime. One must, it is true, forgive one’s enemies– but not before they have been hanged.”

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
April 15, 2023 2:04 am

well there ya go – third

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Slowly things are getting back to normal after the surreal covid hiatus-from-the-familiar.
I’ve not seen anyone knocked out since December 2019.
That changed tonight. At least two got knocked out.

Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 4:18 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 4:19 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 4:20 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 4:21 am
Johnny Rotten
April 15, 2023 4:27 am

Many, many thanks Tom. French poodle and Xi………..lol

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
April 15, 2023 4:49 am

Excellent work Tom. Thank you.

Anchor What
Anchor What
April 15, 2023 6:29 am

BOM have been dragged, kicking and whining, to the point of starting to release some of the parallel data they hold on temperature records – the comparison between good old glass thermometers and their modern electronic ones.
The initial analysis of this limited batch reveals that the electronic thermo can read as much as 0.7 degrees C above the glass one. The reluctance of BOM stinks of obstruction to hide guilt. Read all about it at Jo Nova.

Anchor What
Anchor What
April 15, 2023 6:42 am

How dare those Liberals take a stand, opposing Da Voice!
If only the teals hadn’t knocked off Frydenburg they would have stayed all warm and mushy, which would please many in the media including the outraged Joe Hildebrand.
We can’t have oppositions opposing stuff that journos and useless lefty pollies like.

Black Ball
Black Ball
April 15, 2023 6:55 am

Jim Chalmers has some news regarding the upcoming budget. Hun:

Jim Chalmers will not spring any surprise tax changes in next month’s budget, with the Treasurer instead prioritising another round of spending cuts for his repair mission.

The Treasurer signalled that could include delaying and redesigning major projects, as he promised to help the states handle soaring building costs and labour shortages he warned were putting “timelines and infrastructure budgets under extreme pressure”.

But while Australia’s growth forecast will be slashed, Dr Chalmers confirmed the government would fund a 15 per cent pay rise for aged care workers, which is tipped to cost almost $8bn over four years.

Speaking in Washington DC, the Treasurer said the budget would “put a premium on what is responsible and sustainable” during what is expected to be the two weakest years since 2001, other than the global financial crisis and the peak of the pandemic.

“We understand that people are under the pump … We will provide meaningful support where we can,” he said.

“We are serious about managing the economy in the most responsible way, and that requires trimming spending in some areas in order to make important investments.” (mmmyes still all in on renewables of course)

As he puts the finishing touches on the budget, Dr Chalmers said he would not go beyond tax changes already announced on superannuation concessions and multinational rates.

The cost of living package will be headlined by energy bill relief, and he did not rule out lifting the JobSeeker unemployment benefit from $693 a fortnight after receiving an independent review led by former Labor minister Jenny Macklin. (independent review, chortle)

“This is an important input into our thinking about the budget, but we’ve also been realistic and upfront about saying that there are more good ideas provided to us than there is the capacity to fund all of them,” he said.

As net overseas migration soars to about 350,000 this year, Dr Chalmers said Australia still had not filled “the gap created by Covid”. (not sure bringing 350k of people will plug our finances going down the drain, only exacerbate it)

But he said he was “concerned about the state of the housing market”, particularly sharp rent rises, as he blasted the Coalition and the Greens (gasp! probably not enough to satisfy these morons) for blocking Labor’s $10bn affordable housing fund.

Dr Chalmers refused to say when Labor’s flagship election pledge on housing affordability – the “Help to Buy” scheme for government equity contributions – would be implemented.

On major projects, the Treasurer said he had discussed cost pressures with his state counterparts, and that the commonwealth would work with them “to build infrastructure in the most efficient, cost-effective way”. (no unions?)

With talks in Washington dominated by fears of further economic turbulence, Dr Chalmers urged his international colleagues to follow Australia’s world-leading bank regulations, saying Australia was the only country that made it a core requirement for banks to hold capital to cover interest rate risks.

This has left Australia’s big four as the world’s top four best capitalised banks, according to a recent Morgan Stanley analysis, providing a crucial buffer against global uncertainty fuelled by rate hikes needed to dampen inflation.

Good and hard Australia, good and hard.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 15, 2023 6:57 am

They make ’em tough in the west.

Clint Eastwood, 93, set to direct his final movie with young Hollywood star as lead (14 Apr)

“Discussing Film’s sources say the quadruple Oscar winner’s new movie is a thriller called Juror #2. The plot follows the titular character on a murder trial when he realises that he may have caused the victim’s death himself. As a result, the lead grapples with whether to save himself with his influence over the rest of the jury or turn himself in.

Insiders claim Eastwood wants to direct Juror #2, but it’s unclear if he’s dead set on this definitely being his final film before retiring. Today the Hollywood Reporter confirmed that Nicholas Hoult will star as the juror opposite Toni Collette’s prosecutor.”

Clint has been out of sight for a year, I wasn’t sure even that he was still around, so it’s a fine thing to hear he’s looking to direct another movie. The story idea sounds good, and having Toni Collette on board is a nice thing too. It’s a long way from A Country Practice and The Good The Bad and The Ugly.

calli
calli
April 15, 2023 6:59 am

Speaking of famous quotes and war, watched Midway last night. Excellent movie and plenty of action with little schmaltz (unlike Pearl Harbour).

They had the Japanese subtitled, with Yamamoto telling his wife,

“I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”

Apparently he wrote it in his diary, but it had the desired dramatic effect.

I’m shaking my head wondering what Nimitz and Halsey would have made of “Rachel” Levine.

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
April 15, 2023 7:03 am

at the recent NSW state election, handing out how-to-votes at pre-poll for a week, gave me opportunity to strike up many informal conversations, and the occasional vocal disagreement, with all the candidates in the electorate who (mostly) were in attendance all day each day for the whole week (they obviously thought it was important to do so).

In one such conversation with the electorate’s sitting member (since re-elected, safe Labor seat) I heard the following, which to me is a useful reminder:

MPs don’t give a sh-t about emails or online petitions.
A hand-written letter to the MP gets marginally more attention than an an email or online petition.
MPs will take seriously when tens (or more) people turn up to make a point outside the MPs electorate office. Even better if placards are part of that.

It’s obvious that the collectivist left are far more consistent and willing to form a shouty mob to make their point. Trying to organise a mob event like this with the conservative crowd suffers from the old problem of taking people away from their day-to-day responsibilities, earning a living etc (these things do not burden leftists it appears).

Nothing new. Nevertheless it would be interesting to know when was the last time people on this forum took part in forming and/or participating in a shouty mob to get attention? Particularly, outside an MP’s electorate office?
(Or, for example, outside the ABC building at Ultimo or Parramatta)

Black Ball
Black Ball
April 15, 2023 7:06 am

This has left Australia’s big four as the world’s top four best capitalised banks, according to a recent Morgan Stanley analysis, providing a crucial buffer against global uncertainty fuelled by rate hikes needed to dampen inflation.

JC you are well versed in financial matters, surely this wouldn’t mean government using bank assets (read accounts) to prop up the government bottom line?

Marc
Marc
April 15, 2023 7:07 am

Rejected comment on Chris Kenny’s article in today’s Australian. Can someone tell me what rule it breaches?

REJECTED
If the yes case wins then expect to see calls for other Voices from other minority groups. It sets the stage for the Balkanisation of Australia. When my family came here and gained the privilege of Australian citizenship we were equal with other Australians. One vote one value. This Voice will see us and all those who can’t claim Aboriginal descent relegated to second class citizens being denied similar access to government. With my single vote, my small quiet voice, I will be saying NO to this blatant discrimination.

calli
calli
April 15, 2023 7:08 am

Best banks and worst politicians? What a combination.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 15, 2023 7:14 am

No one’s ever getting elected on a platform of Defund The ABC.

Dot
Dot
April 15, 2023 7:19 am

Parallel data?

Appropriate music.

Dot
Dot
April 15, 2023 7:19 am

Defund the ABC.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 15, 2023 7:20 am

Pommy polls must be dire.

No Women Have Penises, UK Prime Minister Confirms (14 Apr)

“Britain’s Conservative Party Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has confirmed in an interview his understanding that 100 per cent of women do not have penises, a statement that marks the latest chapter in one of the country’s most bizarre political controversies in its centuries-long history.

Such a figure slightly eclipses the one provided by his Labour Party rival, Keir Starmer, who instead believes that only 99.9 per cent of women do not have penises, a tacit admission that he believes as many as one in every 1000 women do in fact have male genitalia.”

There you go, the gender policies of the Tories and Labour as so similar there’s only 0.1% difference between them.

Dot
Dot
April 15, 2023 7:33 am

This has left Australia’s big four as the world’s top four best capitalised banks, according to a recent Morgan Stanley analysis, providing a crucial buffer against global uncertainty fuelled by rate hikes needed to dampen inflation.

That’s actually pretty ambiguous.

The range of scenarios range from being able to successfully handle financial stress, contagion, bank runs to the mundane expansion of money supply if they increase their leverage and reduce their capital base.

Rightly or wrongly the recent decision to leave the cash rate unchanged could have been motivated by a desire to keep mortgages from reaching stressful levels. The trade off is that it makes foreign funding of mortgage backed securities less attractive. The yield curve will flatten in the short term and get more steep later on than it would have been.

Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 7:41 am

Graham Lloyd , The Oz:

A dispute over how the Bureau of Meteorology records daily temperatures is hotting up, with the release of more than 1000 pages of data that show new probes can record different temperatures to mercury thermometers in the same location at the same time.
The documents, released after a years-long Freedom of Information campaign, show temperature measurements taken using updated BOM probes in automatic weather stations at the Brisbane Airport site could be up to 0.7C warmer than the temperature taken using a traditional thermometer at the same time at the same site.
More than three years after a FOI request for parallel data was lodged by scientist John Abbot, the BOM released three years of data on Easter eve after the matter was taken to the Administrative Appeals Tribunal.
In the end, the BOM released only limited data, paving the way for a wave of FOI demands that full records be released in the public interest.
Release of the data is the first opportunity to analyse the performance of BOM probes alongside mercury thermometers. The bureau has long claimed the readings are identical but critics have said the BOM was not following World Meteorological Organisation guidelines on how they should be used.
Given that even small variations in temperature recordings can have an impact on the long-term record, accuracy is vital.
The main issue is how well temperatures recorded by new technologies can be compared to earlier methods to establish a continuous record.
The BOM maintains that an assessment of the full 2019-22 period at Brisbane Airport finds no significant difference between the probe and mercury thermometers.
Yet analysis of the data by scientist Jennifer Marohasy has found a statistically significant difference exists. Over the three-year period for which records have been made available, probes returned temperatures higher than the mercury thermometers placed alongside them 41 per cent of the time.
Recordings were the same 32.8 per cent of the time and lower 25.9 per cent of the time.
Dr Marohasy said the BOM had not disputed that the probe at Brisbane Airport had recorded up to 0.7C warmer than the ¬mercury at the same site at the same time.
She said the bureau had not provided comment on the ¬actual difference daily between temperatures as measured by the probe and the mercury, nor the average monthly or annual difference between the probe and the mercury.
In response to questions from The Weekend Australian, the ¬bureau said it “verifies temperature probes to ensure that they are within specification”. The BOM said the temperature measurement system at Brisbane Airport was verified 24 times between January 2008 and July last year.
“Probes undergo a verification test in situ to ensure the probe is operating within specification”, it said. “If the result of this test is that the probe is outside of its operating specification, it is replaced with a laboratory-verified probe.
“A second verification test is undertaken to ensure it is compliant with the specification.
“This verification process is more rigorous and reliable than recalibration.”

The documents released by the BOM under the FOI request included 1094 A8 reports with the handwritten daily maximum and minimum temperatures from both probes and traditional ¬liquid-in-glass thermometers recorded from instruments in the same shelter/Stevenson screen.
They represent about 20 per cent of the parallel records held for the Brisbane airport site, one of 38 sites originally requested under FOI.
Dr Marohasy said analysis of the Brisbane airport data proved the BOM claim that the new probes had been specially developed to measure exactly the same temperatures as the mercury thermometers was wrong. Dr Marohasy has had a years long dispute with the BOM over the accuracy of the new probes and what she says is a failure by it to adhere to WMO guidelines to average the data recorded and maintain mercury thermometers alongside new technologies for an extended period.
“Readings from the probe are taken every second, and the highest value in a 24-hour period becomes the maximum temperature for that day. WMO guidelines recommend that instantaneous readings from probes be averaged over at least one minute”, she said.
Dr Marohasy said the difference in readings between probes and mercury thermometers was significant.
“Given new ‘hottest ever’ days are often called and make newspaper headlines when the temperature is only some fractions of a degree warmer, future new record hot days could be a consequence of the probe rather than global warming”.
“This has implications for the artificial generation of new record hot temperatures”, she said.
The other key issue was that Brisbane Airport parallel data showed a dramatic change in the difference between the mercury and probe temperature readings after December 2019.
“It is important to know whether this average difference of 0.35C had been caused by a recalibration of the probe that is the official recording instrument at Brisbane Airport”, she said.
Dr Abbot said he would request further parallel data sets from the BOM and was hopeful that previous barriers to access in regard of the existence of these records and costs would not reoccur. “Under FOI legislation, fee waivers should be granted as the information derived is clearly in the public interest” Dr Abbot said.
“We hope previous assertions from the BOM that analysis of parallel temperature data is only of benefit to John Abbot personally and has no public interest will not reoccur,” he said.
“The public is constantly being told of impending global catastrophe should temperatures rise by more than 1.5C. Discrepancies of more than 0.5C because of instrumentation differences are therefore very significant, and certainly should satisfy the public interest test”, Dr Abbot said.
“Different measuring instruments have been used to record temperatures at Brisbane Airport. Given the importance of reliable continuous records, it is important to know whether these instruments are recording the same temperatures, or not. The parallel data so far made available constitutes only a small portion of what the BOM holds.
“It is important to extend the analyses to longer periods and for other geographical locations.”
Dr Abbot first requested the parallel data for Brisbane Airport on December 12, 2019.
The case eventually went before the AAT on February 3, 2023, and was subsequently resolved with the bureau agreeing to provide three years of data.
Dr Marohasy said the data represented just three of the 14.5 years (January 2008 to July 2022) of parallel data that the bureau held for Brisbane Airport.
“It is also just a fraction of the 760 years of parallel data the bureau holds for 38 different locations spread across the landmass of Australia,” she said.
Probes in automatic weather stations began replacing mercury thermometers across Australia and the world 30 years ago.
Dr Marohasy said the probes were generally more sensitive to changes in temperature, so they could measure extremes of temperatures that traditional mercury thermometers with slower response times could not detect.
Most meteorological offices tried to achieve equivalence between the probes and mercury by averaging instantaneous recordings from probes over 1-5 minutes.
Dr Marohasy said the BOM adopted took instantaneous readings every second from custom-designed probes with longer time constants purported to mimic mercury thermometers.
The bureau has claimed in correspondence with Dr Marohasy that it never averaged measurements from probes.
Bureau chief executive Andrew Johnson has told her the probes were specifically designed to have a long response time to mirror the behaviour of mercury in glass, making numerical averaging unnecessary.
Dr Marohasy said the lack of numerical averaging despite the use of probes made the BOM measurements unique in the world.
She said equivalence was important for the construction of reliable historical temperature datasets, for understanding temperature trends and for knowing whether a record hot day as measured automatically by a probe really was hotter than what might have been read manually from a mercury thermometer.

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lotocoti
lotocoti
April 15, 2023 7:42 am

Anyone remember how many good, well-paid jobs kevni’s pink batts created?

Crossie
Crossie
April 15, 2023 7:43 am

I’m off to the Collectors Plant Fair in Richmond and have been advised to bring gum boots.

Dot
Dot
April 15, 2023 7:49 am

In the end, the BOM released only limited data, paving the way for a wave of FOI demands that full records be released in the public interest.

It should ALL be publicly available!

There should be NO need for FOI requests.

calli
calli
April 15, 2023 7:49 am

More than three years after a FOI request for parallel data was lodged by scientist John Abbot, the BOM released three years of data on Easter eve after the matter was taken to the Administrative Appeals Tribunal.

That, in and of itself, tells you all you need to know.

Some “scientists”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 15, 2023 7:49 am

Another day in the NT (the NT News):

Police have closed part of the Darwin Esplanade after a woman was allegedly stabbed to death on Friday night.

The woman, whose age has not been released, was reportedly stabbed during an incident about 6pm. She fled to the nearby Doubletree Hilton hotel for help at which point police were called.

NT Police said the woman was taken to Royal Darwin Hospital with life-threatening injuries but died a short time later. “A man was arrested at the scene and remains in custody,” police said.

‘Street people’/beggars/’rough sleepers’/’vulnerable people’/itinerant drinkers. Bits of the foreshore are some of their favourite spots. Allegedly and apparently Mr and Mrs, who were married ‘in the traditional way’ were on the gas and cracking at each other before the lady person got stabbed, and managed to get across the road to the hotel before she ran out of puff.

Be interesting to see how much press this generates, considering that a fortnight ago the exact same scenario played out in the Palmerston houso burbs. The only difference was that on that occasion it was wifey that stabbed hubby in the chest, killing him.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 15, 2023 7:53 am

Dr Marohasy said the BOM had not disputed that the probe at Brisbane Airport had recorded up to 0.7C warmer than the ¬mercury at the same site at the same time.

Zzzzzzz …. snore .. xx … zzzzzzz

Black Ball
Black Ball
April 15, 2023 7:53 am

History from a Titanic crewman:

It’s a story most of us know by heart: the Titanic hit an iceberg on its maiden voyage in 1912 and sank, claiming more than 1500 lives.

But the heroism of one man, the Titanic’s Australian bosun, has long been reduced to a mere footnote in history.

Albert Nichols’ story is told in today’s new episode of the free In Black and White podcast on Australia’s forgotten characters, with historian Michael Adams, host of the Forgotten Australia podcast.

Nichols was born and raised on idyllic Lord Howe Island, 600km off Australia’s mainland, where his pioneer parents wielded considerable power.

But the NSW government’s appointment of a magistrate in 1878 to run the island threatened the islanders’ sly grog trade and other enterprises.

“The islanders, led by Captain Tom and Mary, Albert’s parents, conspired against this magistrate and framed him for a whole bunch of abuses, including selling sly grog and not reporting a sexual abuse case,” Adams says.

The newcomer was investigated by a government inquiry and removed from office, but one man fiercely defended him: 18-year-old Albert Nichols.

Nichols even publicly accused his own parents of being drunkards who had acted disgracefully in the affair.

After Nichols’ betrayal, his mother flew into a rage, hit him with a shovel, and threatened to kill him with her gun.

He fled the island in fear for his life, and by the 1890s was working in England, starting a family with his new wife.

In 1909, Nichols wrote to his uncle and aunt about his work with the White Star Line.

“We have got two new ones,” he wrote.

“The largest in the world, they are to carry 40,000 tons and be 800 feet long and their names are Titanic and Olympic.

“I suppose that I shall be transferred to one of them when they are ready so I can say that I am the bosun of the largest ship in the world.”

Nichols joined the Olympic in 1911, then became the Titanic’s bosun.

He was one of the first to learn the Titanic had struck an iceberg and was doomed.

“Turn out, you fellows, you haven’t half an hour to live,” Nichols reportedly told his men. “Keep it to yourselves and let no-one know.”

Despite being told to leave on a lifeboat, Nichols stayed on board, going down with the ship.

“I think he was a hero,” Adams says.

“He died trying to save people and do his duty.

“He could have saved himself with honour, but instead he stayed aboard and got people to safety.”

Crossie
Crossie
April 15, 2023 7:54 am

Nevertheless it would be interesting to know when was the last time people on this forum took part in forming and/or participating in a shouty mob to get attention? Particularly, outside an MP’s electorate office?
(Or, for example, outside the ABC building at Ultimo or Parramatta)

Tanya Davis has an office in a shopping centre and not long before the recent state election I saw a large group of people lining up and waiting for the office to open. I have no idea of their issues but can report that she was re-elected with an increased margin. She must have done the right thing by the people waiting in front of her office.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 15, 2023 8:00 am

Yesterday was China building masses of coal mines and power stations, today it’s India.

India Power Giant to Add More Coal Plants to Meet Soaring Demand (14 Apr, via Climate Depot)

“State-run NTPC Ltd., India’s largest electricity producer, plans to start building more coal plants this year as the country continues to lean on the fuel to meet its growing energy needs.

New Delhi-based NTPC will likely award construction orders for about 4.5 gigawatts of coal-fired capacity during the fiscal year that began this month, according to an official aware of the plans, who asked not be named before a final decision is made. The projects will be built across three sites where the utility already runs power plants.

The projects underscore how even as India sets ambitious long-term decarbonization targets, in the near term it will continue to rely on the dirtiest fossil fuel to meet rapidly growing power demand. A warming planet and increased penetration of air conditioners are causing power consumption to climb to new records in the country.”

I’m amused that Bloomberg, whose article this is, wants to emphasize that “India sets ambitious long-term decarbonization targets”. No guys, girls and yxes, India is just saying this to keep the US and EU off their back. India doesn’t believe in climate fairies since their long running Space Agency head was the GCR astrophysicist Prof. Rao. And he was a Svensmark mechanism proponent and global warming debunker.

132andBush
132andBush
April 15, 2023 8:02 am

Latest Ag weather forecast

Notable that the BOM are way out ahead of everyone else re El Nino severity.
One thing for sure, a dryer atmosphere means a greater frost risk come flowering time in late winter/spring. A few around here have started putting canola in at the urging of their agro, we are planning on starting next week. The trade off is the increased risk of dryer/warmer conditions at flowering and grain fill.
Given our full soil moisture profile a sowing in the back end of each varieties window is more advised for this year.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2023 8:14 am

Phhht!
Big Farmer!

Cassie of Sydney
April 15, 2023 8:22 am

“Nothing new. Nevertheless it would be interesting to know when was the last time people on this forum took part in forming and/or participating in a shouty mob to get attention? Particularly, outside an MP’s electorate office?
(Or, for example, outside the ABC building at Ultimo or Parramatta)”

I attended, with my sister, Kellie-Jay Keen’s Sydney rally to “Let Women Speak” in early March of this year. I actually wished I lived in Melbourne because I would have attended Keen’s rally there and then be smeared as a far-right white supremacist Nazi.

I know someone here who attended a Bettina Arndt talk at Sydney University a few years ago, only for it to turn into a very ugly melee after far-left activists turn up and the police had to be called. I also know of several here who attended the anti-lockdown freedom protests, in Melbourne, Sydney and Canberra.

Like others, I do my bit where and when I can. I attend CPAC because I believe we need to support conservative causes and also, perhaps more crucially, it gives me much needed hope in this ever increasingly disturbed and dismal world we live in. Someone here once dismissed CPAC as a kind of “rah-rah” event, and yes it does have a lot of “rah-rah” but that’s why I like it, because we need rah-rah and it’s good to meet and talk to like-minded people who think like I do about the MSM, the state of the Liberal Party and so on. I put my money where my mouth is. I attended Pell’s funeral, I wanted to pay my respects to a much maligned man and by doing so I witnessed the behaviour of the far-left protesters, who would have stormed the cathedral and bashed every one of us if they could have.

I used to hand out how to vote cards for some Liberals, but I refuse to now because the Liberal Party doesn’t give a shit about me. When Dave Sharma’s office rang me early last year to ask if I could help, I laughed and said NO.

Many of us here do what we can, I do what I can. I’m no keyboard warrior.

JC
JC
April 15, 2023 8:28 am

Sancho Panzer says:
April 14, 2023 at 10:38 am
The overall population of honeybees in the US, Canada and Europe has held steady or increased slightly since the widespread adoption of neonics in the 1990s.
Fake news.
It is blow-flies identifying as bees.

I dunno if it’s true or not but I heard an observation recently.

Someone mentioned there’s a noticeable drop in insect population and the big tell is the windscreen test. Growing up and going to the country a car windscreen would be totally smeared with dead insects.

This doesn’t happen anymore.

JC
JC
April 15, 2023 8:29 am

Whoops

The quotation is upside down.

lotocoti
lotocoti
April 15, 2023 8:32 am

a woman was allegedly stabbed to death

The profligate use of alleged/ly to avoid any accusation of prejudicial reporting
really has mangled clarity.

Barry
Barry
April 15, 2023 8:38 am

Today’s Survey.

Walk up to any tranny you encounter and look them earnestly in the eye and say
“Sir, your penis is showing”

If they look down to check, then they are definitely a man, not a woman.

If they look back quizzicly, then they are possibly just an ugly broad.

Let us all know how you get on.

Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 8:44 am

Prices increases at Woolies this morning, since my last supermarket shop a fortnight ago, indicate to me that Australian food price inflation is running at 15-20% — whatever the government stats say.

lotocoti
lotocoti
April 15, 2023 8:46 am

Tom’s Peter Brookes toon from the other day is a hate crime.
Or something.

Winston Smith
April 15, 2023 8:46 am

132andBush:

The trade off is the increased risk of dryer/warmer conditions at flowering and grain fill.

This may be a silly question, but what the Hell – I’ll ask it anyway:
With pollination, do you get any problems with bees? There appears to be an issue with some kind of mite that is causing problems elsewhere and the respective Departments of Agriculture are rumoured to be asleep at the wheel.
Will this cause problems with canola? Or any other grain crops?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 15, 2023 8:46 am

This article is more than 7 years old – Thu 24 Sep 2015

Abbott considered investigation into ‘exaggerated’ Bureau of Meteorology temperature data

Documents show former PM was briefed on setting up a taskforce into whether the Bureau of Meteorology exaggerated records – as claimed in the Australian

Tony Abbott considered asking a taskforce to investigate whether the Bureau of Meteorology was exaggerating temperature data records following the publication of such claims in the Australian newspaper, newly released documents show.

But the environment minister, Greg Hunt, pushed for the then prime minister to drop the idea.

The documents, obtained by the ABC under freedom of information laws, show the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet (PM&C) prepared a brief for Abbott in September 2014 noting that recent articles published by the Australian had “accused [the bureau] of altering its temperature data records to exaggerate estimates of global warming”.

The brief said the bureau’s climate records were “recognised internationally as among the best in the world” and used “a scientific approach that has been peer-reviewed”.

“Nevertheless, the public need confidence information on Australia’s, and the world’s, climate is reliable and based on the best available science,” the then secretary of PM&C, Ian Watt, wrote.

The issue was raised as part of the establishment of the PM&C-based taskforce that would work on Australia’s post-2020 emission reduction targets to be taken to the UN climate conference in Paris later this year.

Under the original proposal, the taskforce would also be assigned the job of “due diligence to ensure Australia’s climate and emissions data are the best possible, including the Bureau of Meteorology’s Australian temperature dataset and other related data”.

The documents show Abbott then asked the foreign affairs minister, Julie Bishop, the then industry minister, Ian Macfarlane, and the environment minister, Greg Hunt, for input on the draft terms of reference.

In a letter to Abbott in November 2014, Hunt called for the removal of the due diligence clause, pointing out that he and his parliamentary secretary, Simon Birmingham, had already “established a strengthened governance oversight of the bureau’s ongoing work in this area”.

“It is important to emphasise that this is primarily a matter of meteorology, statistics and data assurance,” Hunt wrote.

“This oversight arrangement will involve a panel of qualified persons, including eminent statisticians, to periodically review the bureau’s work.”

Hunt said that meant the taskforce proposal would duplicate work already being done.

“As such, I recommend there be no reference to the Bureau of Meteorology in the terms of reference, nor to the taskforce doing due diligence on Australia’s climate and emissions data.”

PM&C subsequently prepared a new brief for Abbott suggesting he agree to amending the terms of reference for the taskforce so that it would merely provide “coordination and advice” on “quality assured climate and emissions data for Australia”.

The brief said Bishop had “agreed to the removal of reference” to the bureau.

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2023 8:48 am

Indian “students” gaming visa system:

‘Universities are reporting sharp increases in the number of Indian students who either arrive in Australia but never step foot in their institution or abandon their course shortly after. One university says around 500 of its expected 1200 new enrolments from India for semester two last year either didn’t front up or jumped ship in the first six months.’

Financial Review

duncanm
duncanm
April 15, 2023 8:49 am

Apropos of nothing, I just got this from the cat server

Error 503 Backend fetch failed
Backend fetch failed

Guru Meditation:

someone had an Amiga childhood.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 15, 2023 8:51 am

lotocoti the next step in reporting of alleged murders will have the victim “pining for the fjords”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 15, 2023 8:54 am

Prices increases at Woolies this morning, since my last supermarket shop a fortnight ago, indicate to me that Australian food price inflation is running at 15-20% — whatever the government stats say.

And the only way is up!

Argentines Buckle Under 103% Inflation (14 Apr)

If you keep on electing insane lefty governments the same thing will happen over and over. Especially when those lefty governments keep on knobbling productive sectors like mining and agriculture.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 15, 2023 8:55 am

Those 7/11 have to get staff from somewhere.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 15, 2023 8:55 am

In the normal course of events, celebrity opinion is rightly regarded as useless.

However, and in John Lydon’s case, I’ll allow it (the Tele):

The celebrity neighbour of Meghan Markle and Prince Harry has let loose in a blunt interview, telling the controversial duo to “just f*** off and shut up”.

Sex Pistols rocker John Lydon, who was the band’s front man from 1975 to 1978, raged about the couple in a blunt interview with British newspaper The Telegraph.

The 67-year-old British expat lives in Malibu, less than 100km from the Sussexes’ sprawling mansion in Montecito, on California’s Pacific Coast. He said the couple couldn’t have it both ways, building public profiles despite repeatedly begging for privacy.

“If you want to be normal and outside of [the Royal Family], then f*** off,” he said.

“Just f*** off and shut up.”

Still killing it, after all these years.

Tom
Tom
April 15, 2023 8:56 am

Abbott considered investigation into ‘exaggerated’ Bureau of Meteorology temperature data

What you get from BOM when it employs ideologists instead of meteorologists. Today’s weather forecast brought to you by Karl Marx.

lotocoti
lotocoti
April 15, 2023 8:57 am

SloJo O’Biden isn’t the only one who doesn’t know what the hell is going on here.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
April 15, 2023 8:59 am

My emails to politicians are always brief – two sentences at most. I assume the politician will not see them. I do intend that their staff will, however, and that a census of pro and con the issue involved is being taken and taken notice of. For example, I emailed Sussan Ley’s office yesterday supporting her speaking out on radio about the Voice. I expect she would get plenty of emails telling her she’s wrong about this, so I figure it’s important to send some support, or else she will change her mind thinking that we all want Australia Day and Anzac Day to disappear.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 15, 2023 8:59 am

This one’s for Sandgroper Cats….

The last laugh: Bayswater Bridge has trapped its final truck
Daile Cross
By Daile Cross
April 14, 2023 — 12.40pm

It’s a West Australian landmark that’s claimed the lives of many trucks and embarrassed a long list of drivers.

Its low clearance of just 3.8 metres should have been warning enough for experienced truckies. Yet time and again drivers managed to get wedged underneath.

Tomorrow, Saturday April 14, a day that will live in hilarity, the Bayswater Bridge will be torn down to make way for Premier Mark McGowan’s Metronet project.

“This had to happen to make way for our once-in-a-generation METRONET program, including the brand new Bayswater Station,” McGowan posted on his socials alongside a humorous video.

The bridge incidents have entertained the Perth population for years.

Headlining the sideshow was Simon Vin, who McGowan acknowledged for his valuable online resource, How Many Days Since The Bayswater Bridge Has Been Hit? which provided a useful live tally. It is currently a mere 46 days.
Oops.

Vin’s website says there have been 74 total incidents involving the bridge.

Among the bridge’s highlights is the time in 2019 when it finally fought back, with police called to the scene when the bridge’s sign fell on top of an Audi, causing significant damage to its windscreen and roof.

Transport Minister Rita Saffioti said the bridge’s removal would take place during a shutdown of the Midland and Airport lines from March 31 to April 26.

“This 26-day closure of the Midland and Airport lines marks the end of the old Bayswater Bridge and creates space for work to start on the second half of the new Bayswater Station,” she said.

“When completed, the new Bayswater Station will become a key connection point, joining the
Midland, Airport and the future Morley-Ellenbrook lines.”

Winston Smith
April 15, 2023 8:59 am

Tom:

Prices increases at Woolies this morning, since my last supermarket shop a fortnight ago, indicate to me that Australian food price inflation is running at 15-20% — whatever the government stats say.

That’d be pretty much on the mark, and I’d say meat is higher around the 20/25% mark.
I read recently the overall shopping basket without the government picking winners and losers is around the 22% mark.
Believable – and with the excess money printing and the bureaucratic\Green choking of supply, it isn’t going to improve.

caveman
caveman
April 15, 2023 9:00 am

Speaking in Washington DC, the Treasurer (Jug Ears) said

I just want to know what the fuk the deal is going to another country to talk budget, it seems to be the latest craze.
Is it to get instructions from his master’s the IMF.???

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2023 9:02 am

Anheuser-Busch has lost $6bn in market value in the last week.

Dot
Dot
April 15, 2023 9:02 am

Prince Harry in a few years time shilling his artistic work (with a punky, punky sorta feel to it) to Johnny.

H/T to adrienswords!

“Err, it is lovely, it’s a pity it’s America!”

Dot
Dot
April 15, 2023 9:04 am

lotocoti says:
April 15, 2023 at 8:57 am

SloJo O’Biden isn’t the only one who doesn’t know what the hell is going on here.

WTF was that!?

bespoke
bespoke
April 15, 2023 9:05 am

Trying to organise a mob event like this with the conservative crowd suffers from the old problem of taking people away from their day-to-day responsibilities, earning a living etc (these things do not burden leftists it appears).

Not much of an excuse if they still physically fit and retired. Talk fest are useless create the allusion of doing something only serve to prop up egos with the followers becoming gate keepers.

Jorge
Jorge
April 15, 2023 9:12 am

What to make of the 21 y.o. National Guard kid ?

Called a show off, bignoting to other gamers, a gun enthusiast, shouted racist slogans somewhere, strong support from his family in court etc. etc.

Disinformation op or not ? Seems weird and clumsy if it was.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
April 15, 2023 9:13 am

Lots of wind pollination of grain crops, although bees do help. Driving across the Hay plains with the almonds in flower last Aug/Sep was fascinating, lots of beehives, bees must have been exhausted however as I can’t imagine they got to all the blossoms.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 15, 2023 9:14 am

Anheuser-Busch has lost $6bn in market value in the last week.
Takeover/Stock buyback coming right up, it was a manufactured crisis.
I doubt takeaway sales are affected.
All beer advertising has homoerotic themes, because … poofters drink beer.
That’s the message, anyway.

Indolent
Indolent
April 15, 2023 9:17 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
April 15, 2023 9:18 am

All beer advertising has homoerotic themes, because … poofters drink beer.

When you’re work in’ up a sweat on the chocolate Highway reach for a Flamer Larger. Sydney’s favourite beer.

Must be Saturday.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 15, 2023 9:19 am

How Many Days Since The Bayswater Bridge Has Been Hit? which provided a useful live tally. It is currently a mere 46 days

If only there was a bus driver somewhere able to provide some insight into this state of affairs.

Cassie of Sydney
April 15, 2023 9:21 am

“Abbott considered investigation into ‘exaggerated’ Bureau of Meteorology temperature data”

I do recall PM Abbott considering a lot of things…..Section 18C, budget repair, and others.

Perhaps we can remember his tenure as the “Considering PM”. But I prefer the label “the Wimping PM”.

johanna
johanna
April 15, 2023 9:23 am

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-14/anthony-albanese-named-in-time-s-100-most-influential-people-lis/102225650

Why is the Time list even reported any more? It dates from decades ago when Time was a huge and respected international newsmagazine. Nowadays it is an online husk with utterly predictable luvvie and woke biases.

As for Albo being in the top 100 most influential people – in the CFMEU, maybe. In the world, they’re havin’ a larf.

Indolent
Indolent
April 15, 2023 9:23 am
Jorge
Jorge
April 15, 2023 9:24 am

Comment on Twitter:

If you illegally leak anything classified against Trump … you’re a brave whistleblower and you’ll get a million dollar book deal or a job at CNN.

If you illegally leak anything classified against the Biden regime, even if it proves they’re lying about a war … you’ll get raided by the FBI, perp walked, slammed in the press as a traitor, and probably spend the rest of your life in prison.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 15, 2023 9:26 am

ZK2A, what are they planning for the traffic that needs to go there? I see lots of blather about the stupid rail line.

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2023 9:26 am

‘Pentagon Leaker Kicking Himself For Not Just Leaving Classified Documents Strewn Around His Garage’

The Bee.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 15, 2023 9:29 am

The Hershey Highway?
John Meillon voices VB ad.

“You can get it catching a frog, you can get it, f..king your dog”
Rodney Rude

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 15, 2023 9:30 am

Ed finds the BoM dodging up the temperature records a bore.

They’re about to put eighty metre high 500,000 volt power lines through my farm based on the global warming models backed off these readings.

I class BoM data as a misinformation as it is constantly being massaged through computer programs so it fits consensus rather than science.

In news on the transmission lines, it’s clear that the costings of above ground versus below ground are merely educated guesses and predicated on the government wanting the work done in haste.

When you’re told that underground could cost double or even eight times the cost of above, the alarm bells go off for anyone who runs a business with a budget.

The AEMO is our target as it produces this fudge for governments to justify brutalising rural Australia for carbon targets and the panic that’s set in as the timelines for the closures of coal plants run headlong into long builds for renewables.

Underground requires no steel or massive amounts of concrete left in perpetuity.
The cables could run up back roads with only a few metres of easement needed to keep activity away from the line. We also suspect the costings for above ground are deliberately being underestimated to make the case.

I’m beginning to think the need for politicians to stand in front of these huge power projects for the photo opportunity is a factor as something buried doesn’t cut it for these vain fools.

Watch this space. Tractor blockades are already being spoken about.
Farmers are getting very angry at being pushed around. I’ve never seen both the men and women so agitated by this proposal. We know that forests of turbines and farms of glass will follow.

Bruce
Bruce
April 15, 2023 9:34 am

@ pete of perth:

“This side of the country still here. Xi hasn’t annexed us yet.”

A vassal state “managed” at arms length.

If our rice-propelled cousins can “buy” Kanaduh, Worst Australia would be a walk in the park.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
April 15, 2023 9:34 am

There was an interesting clip saw on Twitter yesterday.

Was apparently taken from behind Biden during visit to N Ireland. The person to took video gets him as he is scratching back of his neck. As he does so his skin moves in a very weird way and you can hear the female saying “Oh my god it’s a mask”.
It certainly looked very unnatural.
However you only see Biden from the back and bit of a side view. Voice seems his.
No idea if genuine as don’t see the context of the event or even who he is talking to. Am guessing were not many gatherings with people during his quick visit. Plus how could the person get that close behind him as no security in the way?
Fake or real, I have no idea.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2023 9:37 am

KD at 8:55.
Finally, something on this blog from Johnny Rotten which makes sense.

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2023 9:39 am

Watch this space. Tractor blockades are already being spoken about.

Go full French on them.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 15, 2023 9:40 am

If only there was a bus driver somewhere able to provide some insight into this state of affairs.

In Manchester…

Roof of double-decker bus rips off after it crashed into bridge (10 Apr)

Sad picture.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 15, 2023 9:41 am

Oops, meant to link the photo directly.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2023 9:41 am

hzhousewifesays:

April 15, 2023 at 9:13 am

Lots of wind pollination of grain crops, although bees do help. Driving across the Hay plains …

Do not get out at the truck stop!

Winston Smith
April 15, 2023 9:43 am

Jorge:

What to make of the 21 y.o. National Guard kid ?
Called a show off, bignoting to other gamers, a gun enthusiast, shouted racist slogans somewhere, strong support from his family in court etc. etc.
Disinformation op or not ? Seems weird and clumsy if it was.

Most of the information we are getting is coming from the establishment. Treat it as self serving bullshit for the next week when the story starts to fall apart as it usually does.

bespoke
bespoke
April 15, 2023 9:44 am

Tractor blockades are already being spoken about.

I’m up for that. Fruity JD drivers will demand a safe space though.

calli
calli
April 15, 2023 9:46 am

Go full French on them.

Plus a bit of Dutch farmer for good measure.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 15, 2023 9:46 am

Leak suspect Jack Teixeira appears in court as US reveals case against him

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, in a statement issued after the arrest, said the Pentagon would conduct a review of its “intelligence access, accountability and control procedures” to prevent such a leak from happening again.

Seems like a good idea.
I know nothing about these things, but you’d think that might already be someone’s day job.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2023 9:50 am

Rogersays:

April 15, 2023 at 9:39 am

Watch this space. Tractor blockades are already being spoken about.

Go full French on them.

Err … excusez moi?

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 15, 2023 9:51 am

Underground requires no steel or massive amounts of concrete left in perpetuity.
You’re a Greenie today?
The cables could run up back roads with only a few metres of easement needed to keep activity away from the line.
A few metres of Easement will do when it’s being dug up to find a fault?
I don’t thinks so, 500,000 kV lines are going to be pretty deep.
We also suspect the costings for above ground are deliberately being underestimated to make the case.
Underground is still going to be 5 times dearer.

calli
calli
April 15, 2023 9:51 am

Chuckle. I see someone has finally rolled out of bed. Big night last night?

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 15, 2023 9:52 am

For the spaceflight enthusiasts, SpaceX has been given the launch license by the FAA to launch Super heavy/Starship.
Looks like 7am Monday US east coast time for the launch window opening.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/04/green-light-go-spacex-receives-a-launch-license-from-the-faa-for-starship/
Elon says he’ll be happy if it doesn’t destroy the launch tower but I think he’s hoping for a lot more.
No recovery of either stage will be attempted and they will ditch in the water.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
April 15, 2023 9:53 am

Ed finds the BoM dodging up the temperature records a bore.

They’re about to put eighty metre high 500,000 volt power lines through my farm based on the global warming models backed off these readings.

I class BoM data as a misinformation as it is constantly being massaged through computer programs so it fits consensus rather than science.

In news on the transmission lines, it’s clear that the costings of above ground versus below ground are merely educated guesses and predicated on the government wanting the work done in haste.

When you’re told that underground could cost double or even eight times the cost of above, the alarm bells go off for anyone who runs a business with a budget.

The AEMO is our target as it produces this fudge for governments to justify brutalising rural Australia for carbon targets and the panic that’s set in as the timelines for the closures of coal plants run headlong into long builds for renewables.

Underground requires no steel or massive amounts of concrete left in perpetuity.
The cables could run up back roads with only a few metres of easement needed to keep activity away from the line. We also suspect the costings for above ground are deliberately being underestimated to make the case.

I’m beginning to think the need for politicians to stand in front of these huge power projects for the photo opportunity is a factor as something buried doesn’t cut it for these vain fools.

Watch this space. Tractor blockades are already being spoken about.
Farmers are getting very angry at being pushed around. I’ve never seen both the men and women so agitated by this proposal. We know that forests of turbines and farms of glass will follow.

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I’ve worked in supply authority and High Voltage for over 10 years.

The cost of underground is most likely at least 10x the cost of doing overhead.

The big cost issue is the type of cable you need for 132kV, 330kV or 500Kv lines.

Overhead is basically high tensile steel with an aluminium outer for transmission, sometimes it’s just high tensile steel.

Underground HV cables are horrendously expensive to produce at those voltages due to the manufacturing process

see here

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 15, 2023 9:54 am

The cables could run up back roads with only a few metres of easement needed to keep activity away from the line.

Yeah, course they can.
It’s a piece of piss to put a 90 in a 500,000 kV conductor.
Dickhead.

132andBush
132andBush
April 15, 2023 9:55 am

Will this cause problems with canola? Or any other grain crops?

Winston.
No problems with not having hives around canola as it (canola) basically pollinates itself via wind distribution Definitely no harm having bees around that’s for sure, in fact many bee keepers try to get their hives on early flowering canola to keep them “well fed” over the tail end of winter.
I know almonds require bees for pollination and there is a shortage of hives for servicing the many thousands of hectares of new almond plantations.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 15, 2023 9:56 am

I see the Pentagon Leaker was given Top Secret clearance at 19 yo. and was a communications and IT specialist. Bullshit! Part time position. Opened the mail and checked the emails more like. Just as well he didn’t have the dirt on the Clinton Crime Syndicate. He’d been Epsteined already.

MatrixTransform
April 15, 2023 9:59 am
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 15, 2023 10:00 am

On the Epstein saga, has anyone noticed the girls involved are very quiet about who was playing doctors and nurses apart from Randy Andy. How much have they been paid off.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
April 15, 2023 10:04 am

for Farmer Gez … Undergrounding high voltage electricity transmission lines

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Thanks matrix, better info than i put up 🙂

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 15, 2023 10:04 am

Underground cables run hotter so they need to be bigger.

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2023 10:05 am

I know almonds require bees for pollination and there is a shortage of hives for servicing the many thousands of hectares of new almond plantations.

Someone didn’t think that through.

Meanwhile…

‘Federal department stopped training sniffer dogs to detect bees, missing chance to prevent varroa mite’s arrival’

ABC 22.03.2023

Safe hands.

johanna
johanna
April 15, 2023 10:06 am

Everyone loves the concept of underground, but outside urban areas it is impractical and very expensive. Far more expensive to install, and then what happens if there is a break in a 50km underground line.

Think about it.

I’m getting more and more optimistic that The Invoice is going to fail. Every outburst by an activist helps. Every remote community member who says they know nothing about it helps. Every explosion of crime in Alice Springs and similar places in WA and Qld helps.

If I had to bet, I’d bet on failure.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 15, 2023 10:07 am

The ABC (no doubt unintentionally) damns with faint praise:

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has been included in Time magazine’s list of the 100 most influential people of 2023, alongside King Charles III, Ukraine’s First Lady, Olena Zelenska, and model Bella Hadid.

And who wrote the foreword to Albo’s entry? Justin Trudeau.

How embarrassing.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 15, 2023 10:09 am

One in five British children have a phone by age four
Peter Chappell
Saturday April 15 2023, 12.01am BST, The Times
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One in five three and four-year-olds in the UK have their own mobile phone, according to Ofcom research.

By the age of nine, half of children own a mobile and by twelve nearly all children use one, the regulator’s Children and parents: media use and attitudes report revealed.

This acceleration coincides with the move for many children from primary to secondary school, which occurs around the age of 11.

Most seven to eighteen-year-olds (68 per cent) owned a games console or handheld player and a further 9 per cent had access to one. Some 87 per cent of three to four-year-olds have used YouTube, 19 per cent used TikTok and 17 per cent used Snapchat, the report said.

Ofcom said that children were gravitating to “dramatic” online videos, which appear designed to maximise stimulation but require minimal effort and focus.

These videos, popularised by the likes of Mr Beast, Infinite and JackSucksAtStuff, are often short-form, and centre around the themes of conflict, extreme challenges and high stakes. They have a distinct and stimulating editing style, designed to create maximum dramatic effect.

YouTube was the most used online platform among three to 17-year-olds, followed by WhatsApp, TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram and Facebook. Use of WhatsApp, TikTok and Snapchat increased from 2021 (up from 53 per cent, 50 per cent and 42 per cent respectively), while Facebook was less popular this year (down from 40 per cent).

Sonia Livingstone, a professor of social psychology at the London School of Economics, told the Guardian: “Ofcom doesn’t report how many have a contract or capacity to make calls, but I am guessing it’s close to zero. So it will most likely be a convenient way to watch funny videos.”

According to Livingstone, screen time is often used as an unhelpful proxy for other problems, such as the lack of access to other activities.

“Too much time on a phone matters mainly if it is at the cost of parent-child interaction — the most important thing of all — along with children getting sufficient sleep and physical exercise,” she said. “If children are doing homework, watching an educational app, chatting with a grandparent, dancing in front of a music video, playing a game with a sibling, there is no evidence that any of this is a problem, and some evidence that it’s a benefit.”

Max Davie, a consultant paediatrician based in London, said parents’ central consideration should be how to help their child’s development, rather than simply policing phone use.

“Children need social interaction, communication, play, exercise and sleep,” he said. “Rather than a list of acceptable things or a time limit, think whether the smartphone use is helping those things or getting in the way.”

Vicki
Vicki
April 15, 2023 10:10 am

Matrix – thanks for that informative article on undergrounding of the overhead transmission lines.
A greater evil for farmers? It would be a massive undertaking across productive pasture. I don’t think these guys have any understanding of agricultural productivity.

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2023 10:12 am

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has been included in Time magazine’s list of the 100 most influential people of 2023

The local newsagent doesn’t even stock Time.

calli
calli
April 15, 2023 10:12 am

Thanks roger. Why would anyone want to smuggle in bees? The only reason I can see is to destroy our agriculture.

C.L.
C.L.
April 15, 2023 10:13 am

Not seeing a lot of the usual ‘Onward To Inevitable Victory’ puff pieces about Ukraine for some mysterious reason.

Chris
Chris
April 15, 2023 10:13 am

Over at Ace, yesterday’s Art thread is McCubbin’s The Pioneers.
Americans’ comments are… moderately witty.
I remember seeing it as a kid at the AGWA. High impact then, and having just had the privilege to bury my Mum its final panel is very fresh in my mind.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 15, 2023 10:16 am

As I have previously commented, The Smoking Gun website had the original police statements up for the Epstein case. The girls were in high school and everybody knew why they were there. This doesn’t make it right but puts it in some context. Getting Epsteined indeed.

MatrixTransform
April 15, 2023 10:16 am

essentially, big capital is gonna bend over the farmers and give them one for Gaia.
so that they can minimise the costs of infrastructure and ongoing maintenance.

prepare for marketing campaigns to discredit the Demon Farmers.

sexist, racist, bigot, planet killer, nanna killer and eeyew … a farmer

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 15, 2023 10:19 am

Albo aka Luigi the Unbelievable has a great sideline as an Influencer of note. Stain removal ads from trips to the local Rub’n’tug will be appearing shortly. Followed by a Voice over imploring the child victims of neglect, abuse and especially VD in the very young to come forward as they can’t be heard screaming coz of the noise made pigs in the trough.

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2023 10:19 am

‘Speaking at the first hearing of the parliamentary inquiry into the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice on Friday, Professor Marcia Langton painted a grim picture of the relationship between governments and Indigenous people.

“Nobody in government speaks to them,” she told the committee.’

Wasn’t Elbow at Garma wearing his Akubra?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 15, 2023 10:19 am

Johanna.
Underground power is routinely use overseas and the ground is a far more predictable environment than above.
The steel towers near in SA didn’t go so well in a rather unremarkable storm.
These above ground major trunk lines when broken will black out huge areas. This wouldn’t happen with underground.
Statements about cost need scrutiny and that’s exactly what we’re doing.

Razey
Razey
April 15, 2023 10:21 am

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has been included in Time magazine’s list of the 100 most influential people of 2023

Adolf Hitler: Man of the Year, 1938

https://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,760539,00.html

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2023 10:21 am

Thanks roger. Why would anyone want to smuggle in bees? The only reason I can see is to destroy our agriculture.

More likely they’d come in as stowaways in cargo, I think.

Although you certainly can’t rule out nefarious intent.

Chris
Chris
April 15, 2023 10:24 am

I see HeadCase has gone ChatGPT and not writing his own anymore.
Sad.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 15, 2023 10:25 am

Talking to my neighbour about grandchildren. His daughter is a kindy teacher. 9 out of 10 kids aged 5 can’t count. The do nothing parents this year are already complaining. She said her 3 yo already counts to 20. My nearly 3 yo grandson counts to 10.

Razey
Razey
April 15, 2023 10:26 am

Stalin was awarded man of the year twice by Time magazine. Sleazy is in good company.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 15, 2023 10:27 am

When you put up a new building you’re told that the power connection must go underground.
How does that safety requirement fit with massive high voltage towers?
The 2010 royal commission into catastrophic bushfires recommended that new power lines be put underground because of the fires traced back to these high voltage lines.
I’m not comfortable to have my family and community sacrificed so Mike Cannon-Brookes gets plenty cheaply acquired cash.
He won’t be on the fire truck with me.

Frank
Frank
April 15, 2023 10:30 am

Go full French on them.

The French would start registering their displeasure by setting Adam Bandt’s house on fire.

johanna
johanna
April 15, 2023 10:35 am

Really? About to overthrow society?

Meanwhile, Mr Carr also faced court accused of firearms and drugs offences.

In police facts tendered to the court he was accused of having “a strong sense of anti-Semitism and hatred for the LGBTQI community”.

He appeared via video link from police custody wearing a high-visibility polo shirt and declined to be represented by Legal Aid.

The arborist told the court he wanted to apply for bail as he had not done anything wrong.

He described the gel blaster allegedly found in a caravan at the rear of his home as a “broken cap gun”.

“I haven’t been in trouble for over eight years, your honour,” he said.

“You don’t just get bail because you want it,” Magistrate Girotto replied.

“You have a record that is 48 pages long.”

Magistrate Girotto said his alleged possession of the firearm was “suspicious” given his record.

“I’m sorry your honour,” Mr Carr replied, “because I bought it on eBay, I didn’t think it was illegal,” he continued.

Mr Carr was granted bail and ordered to report to police twice a week ahead of his next appearance in Wollongong Local Court on May 9.

Oh, and another member of this alleged ‘Nazi cell’ was found to be in possession of a rusted shotgun in a caravan which he hadn’t lived in for two years.

Pathetic.

Johnny Rotten
April 15, 2023 10:42 am

A woman arrives home from work and her husband notices she’s wearing a diamond necklace. He asks his wife “Where did you get that necklace?” She replies “I won it in a raffle at work. Go get my bath ready while I start dinner”.

The next day, the women arrives home from work wearing a diamond bracelet. Her husband asks “Where did you get the bracelet?” She replies “I won it in a raffle at work. Go get my bath ready while I start dinner”.

The next day, her husband notices she arrives home from work wearing a mink coat. He says “I suppose you won that in a raffle at work?” She replies “Yeah I did! How did you guess? Go get my bath ready while I start supper”.

Later after supper, she goes to take her bath and she notices there is only one millimetre of water in the tub. She yells to her husband “HEY! There’s only millimetre of water in the tub”. He replies “I didn’t want you to get your raffle ticket wet”.

Johnny Rotten
April 15, 2023 10:43 am

The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.

– H. L. Mencken

Jorge
Jorge
April 15, 2023 10:44 am

Can’t help noticing how the attention is on ‘how did a 21 y.o. have access to top secret material’ and a lot on his background as a gamer etc.

Not much about the content of the files, the lies about Ukraine and the surveillance and distrust of allies like Poland.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 15, 2023 10:48 am

When you put up a new building you’re told that the power connection must go underground.
So, Greenie Regulations are fine, if it boosts your argument?
How does that safety requirement fit with massive high voltage towers?
Huh?
The Easement required to dig down to find faults is going to be as wide as the pylons anyway.
Then there’s the fence, which means stock can’t move from one side to the other without gates and human involvement.
Then there’s the land surrendered for the easement.

Have you thought this through?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 15, 2023 10:49 am

Applicable to us, too.

———–

Stew Peters Show:

If the power grid fails millions of Americans would die within a year
Filmmaker David Tice is here to talk about the danger of a cascading failure of America’s power grid.
The power grid could collapse because of an attack from a foreign government.
A massive blackout could also occur from a solar storm hitting the earth and causing an EMP which would knock out power.
There are mechanisms by which our transformers and substations can be protected.
Citizens must demand their local officials make plans to protect our fragile electrical grid.
The money being wasted and given away to fight the neocon Ukraine war could be used to ensure Americans are safe at home.

America’s POWER GRID Infrastructure WEAK: Grid Down, Power Up Film Shows BLACKOUT CALAMITY Imminent

Winston Smith
April 15, 2023 10:50 am

Remember when I – on several occasions – said the US is in a cultural position that will require a Pinochet level of excising the Socialist cancer that was devouring it?
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2023/04/us-army-teaching-officers-at-fort-leavenworth-that-white-people-cant-experience-racism/
I think the US just blew straight through that option at the speed of light.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2023 10:53 am

Plasmamortar earlier re underground HV.
Yes, there has been pressure to underground the Dandenongs network for years due to fire risk and the big barrier is cost.
And, as you say, it isn’t just a matter of burying the same line as used for overhead. The insulated cable is horrendously expensive.
The main physics and economics lesson is this … air is a free and very effective insulator.

johanna
johanna
April 15, 2023 10:53 am

Farmer Gez says:
April 15, 2023 at 10:19 am

Johanna.
Underground power is routinely use overseas and the ground is a far more predictable environment than above.
The steel towers near in SA didn’t go so well in a rather unremarkable storm.
These above ground major trunk lines when broken will black out huge areas. This wouldn’t happen with underground.
Statements about cost need scrutiny and that’s exactly what we’re doing.
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Sorry, Gez, but it’s not true. Digging and installing vast amounts of underground cables is more expensive than overhead lines.

If it wasn’t, why are telecommunications companies all over the world not doing that?

Winston Smith
April 15, 2023 10:55 am

Gravatar change back to an old favourite – Whale (Killer) playing with a Seal (Dead).
Aren’t they cute?

Bar Beach Swimmer
April 15, 2023 11:00 am

Can someone put up the Greg Craven article in today’s Oz, please?
thank you.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 15, 2023 11:03 am

The select committee into the Voice is showcasing the fundamental bust between constitutional law and practical politics.

Greg Craven gets the practical side said:

Professor Craven, who supports constitutional recognition, told the joint select committee that the insertion of the clause implicated members of government “from cabinet down to the lighthouse keeper’s bulb polisher” and called for its removal in order to prevent significant delays in government decision-making.

But Justice Hayne sets up and shuts up a legal Straw Man:

“I cannot see anything in the proposed draft that comes anywhere near providing anything like a veto … veto is not available,” Mr Hayne said.

And having delivered a magisterial put down of a legal veto, Mr Hayne takes Pollyanna for a spin:

Amid debate over what policy areas in which the voice would make representations, Mr Hayne said the voice would not waste its “social and political capital by ­exploring the outer range of its scope of representations”.

Well, that’s that.

Apparently the Voice is going to be a neat, self-limiting, and non-activist ornament on the democratic process – for fear of wasting its social and political capital.

No, really.
A former High Court Justice has opined. Take it to the bank.

Vicki
Vicki
April 15, 2023 11:06 am

For a fascinating discussion between John Anderson & Peter Costello on the current world, and local, economic prospects listen to this podcast:

https://johnanderson.net.au/conversations-peter-costello-ii/

I especially found interesting the discussion at the around 25 minute mark on Australia’s response to Covid. Both men were appalled at the loss of liberty suffered by Australians and the botched overall response.

Both men seem to believe that the western world is in a death spiral.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 15, 2023 11:08 am

Talking to my neighbour about grandchildren. His daughter is a kindy teacher. 9 out of 10 kids aged 5 can’t count.

The headmaster of the local High school here, is on record at being surprised at the number of children who graduate from Primary school, almost illiterate.

rickw
rickw
April 15, 2023 11:08 am

The initial analysis of this limited batch reveals that the electronic thermo can read as much as 0.7 degrees C above the glass one. The reluctance of BOM stinks of obstruction to hide guilt. Read all about it at Jo Nova.

BOM doesn’t to calibration or change management?

What a bunch of tools.

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 15, 2023 11:09 am

Yes I saw Musk’s comments re mutilating minors. Telling the truth in Marxist meja land is a revolutionary act. Extraordinary that it needs to be said. Wow there are some evil doctors out there.

flyingduk
flyingduk
April 15, 2023 11:10 am

Fake news.
It is blow-flies identifying as bees.

Interesting point: whilst the ‘windscreen test’ would certainly point to a reduction in the density of airborne insects in recent decades, why has this not also equated to a reduction in blowfly numbers?

And a fun fact/incident. I was once upfront in an RFDS aircraft when we hit a very large bug at 18,000 ft … under CASA rules it should *not* have been in controlled airspace, and was probably hypoxic as oxygen is required over 10,000 ft.

rickw
rickw
April 15, 2023 11:12 am

Both men seem to believe that the western world is in a death spiral.

The death spiral induced by profoundly stupid and evil people who should otherwise have been assigned to wrangling trolleys at Bunnings.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 15, 2023 11:13 am

Not much good weekend reading in the Paywallian for the Lieborals. Rumours of their death are hopefully true.

Dot
Dot
April 15, 2023 11:13 am

One in five British children have a phone by age four

…the f%$# outta here with your modern parenting bullshit!

Arguably they learn the tech and so don’t get left behind…but compare how many Zillenials can use all of their gay social media apps…and how many of them can ackchyually code?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 15, 2023 11:13 am

Telecommunication lines are underground. We have a major fibre optic cable running through our district.
The big dish towers are wireless transmitters.

I’m not saying that above ground isn’t cheaper but by how much and at what cost to the environment and communities in their path.
Putting millions of tonnes of concrete in the ground seems counter intuitive to carbon neutral outcomes.
Billions will be spent on setting up the vision of a renewable future and yet there are people here willing to quibble over the cost and go cheap.
Who benefits?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 15, 2023 11:16 am

See how far you get into watching this. Those clips from the fast food joints….spew!

———–

Fleccas Talks:

THIS WEEK IN CULTURE 144

bespoke
bespoke
April 15, 2023 11:16 am

Both men were appalled at the loss of liberty suffered by Australians and the botched overall response.

Pity Costello didn’t use his influence over Nine network to be more critical when it was most needed.

rickw
rickw
April 15, 2023 11:18 am

Digging and installing vast amounts of underground cables is more expensive than overhead lines.

Exactly, and it eliminates the risk of someone putting a star picket or ripper through it.

Back to basics, the reason for these additional transmission lines is null and void.

You won’t win against the insanity. You can however make construction impossible with irrigation.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 15, 2023 11:19 am

The physics of high voltage lines also shows that in cases of heavy smoke or dust that these lines can and do arc to ground.
I’m sure you’re aware that the energy is around the cables in a field and not encapsulated in the metal cable.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 15, 2023 11:20 am

America Continuation Down The Drain

Luxury Lingerie Brand ‘By Women, For Women’ Posts Ad Featuring Male in Women’s Bra, Panties

Luxury lingerie brand Honey Birdette, which once prided itself on having high-end products “by women, for women,” changed its slogan to “a luxury brand for all” and posted an ad featuring a male clad in a bra and panties.

On Wednesday, Honey Birdette shared a photo to its Instagram account, where it used male model Jake DuPree to market its new “RUBY” 3-piece lingerie set. In the photos, DuPree struck a few poses while clad in a red bra, thong, and matching stockings.

At some point, the caption was edited and given a lengthy update, adding, “Honey Birdette fosters an inclusive and diverse environment, and we will continue to use our voice to empower and support the LGBTQ+ community, women, and anyone who wants to feel fabulous in our lingerie.”

“While thoughtful and constructive discussions are important to push culture forward, hate speech and bullying will not be tolerated on our channels. Comments of this negative nature will be deleted,” the brand added. “@jakedupree, you are so talented and have our full support!”

Honey Birdette must have received its fair share of backlash, as the brand later shut off comments for the post, making it so that users can no longer share their opinions.

A quick look at DuPree’s personal Instagram page reveals that the male model is no stranger to strutting around in women’s underwear.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
April 15, 2023 11:22 am

I’m not saying that above ground isn’t cheaper but by how much and at what cost to the environment and communities in their path.
Putting millions of tonnes of concrete in the ground seems counter intuitive to carbon neutral outcomes.
Billions will be spent on setting up the vision of a renewable future and yet there are people here willing to quibble over the cost and go cheap.
Who benefits?

It’s understandable that you would have a skewed view against overhead as this situation will directly affect you.

As to the cost, we all pay it as taxpayers…

Also, underground install comes with plenty of environmental damages of its own..
Plenty of oil, diesel and other things leech into the soil during the excavation process, no matter how careful you are.

johanna
johanna
April 15, 2023 11:23 am

Well, I’m not going along with the death spiral thing (see any ex-Indian Colonel in an Agatha Christie novel three generations ago) but the important point is to keep the flag flying, both literally and in other ways.

I do get the idea that those who frequent this site have a significant percentage of end-of-the-world-as-we know-iters, terminal pessimists and in particular, people who misunderstand the political history of the US. That would be the ones who imagine that it is going to split because of some heated political rhetoric.

Apart from JC, areff and one ot two others, most commenters have not the faintest understanding of US culture.

Hint – it is not the same as here, or what is on TV.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 15, 2023 11:24 am

A star picket won’t be driven in far enough to hit a high voltage cable.
They’re deeper than that. I don’t know any farmer who’s pieced our reticulated water system with a picket yet.
We already stay clear of narrow easements for power, telecommunication and water.

Winston Smith
April 15, 2023 11:25 am

132andBush:

I know almonds require bees for pollination and there is a shortage of hives for servicing the many thousands of hectares of new almond plantations.

OK, interesting.
So you’d think the bureaucrats would be making it easy to have a beehive or two. But instead, it’s a paperwork nightmare to buy just one and set it up. Mind you, my tolerance for paperwork is best described as ‘minimalist’.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 15, 2023 11:29 am

Used to flat with a guy who became chief engineer for a power company. They were doing a subdivision that wS to be fed underground. In the 70’s it was 20% dearer to do. The council wouldn’t accept it being added to the cost of the blocks so in went overhead wires. Another mate lived there. A small street of 10 houses all paid to have underground. The nearby streets complained about it but weren’t willing to pay the extra cost themselves. I am so over it. I want, I want, I want but don’t want to pay for it. Eff em.

JC
JC
April 15, 2023 11:30 am

This is freaking extraordinary. Bears most likely haven’t lived in the Alps for hundreds and hundreds of years for a good reason. They don’t work well with people and people got rid of them. They re-introduce the bastards and one turns out to be dangerous to humans. It wounds two and kills one person, but they aren’t allowed to kill it.
FMD.

Prosecutors in Italy said Wednesday that a bear that killed a jogger in the Alps last week previously attacked two other people, Reuters reports. Andrea Papi, 26, was found dead on April 6 after going for a run in the mountainous region of Trentino-Alto Adige.

His family raised the alarm when he failed to return and a search team found his body overnight.

He had suffered deep wounds to the neck, arms and chest and an autopsy carried out on Friday concluded he had been attacked by a bear, Italian news media reported.

Local authorities asked for the animal to be euthanized after the attack but Italian news agency Ansa reported Friday that the order to kill the bear had been suspended.
European brown bear foraging among rocks on mountain slope.
A European brown bear (Ursus arctos arctos) foraging among rocks on mountain slope in Italy.

Authorities had also applied for the bear to be put down in 2020, when it attacked a father and son near the same area, Reuters reported, but a court ruling overturned the decision.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bear-kills-jogger-italy-same-animal-attacked-father-son-2020-prosecutors/

Bar Beach Swimmer
April 15, 2023 11:30 am

Re my request, for the Greg Craven article, it’s in the Inquirer – “I will join Lesser..”

rickw
rickw
April 15, 2023 11:31 am

The physics of high voltage lines also shows that in cases of heavy smoke or dust that these lines can and do arc to ground.

FFS Gez, most of Victoria is powered by above ground transmission lines. You’re not going to win on some BS technical argument.

The argument is simple, the whole green energy thing is a scam. You won’t engage with a scam. If the scammers try to build then the construction sites will be irrigated.

You’re not operating in “western society” anymore.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 15, 2023 11:34 am

Putting millions of tonnes of concrete in the ground seems counter intuitive to carbon neutral outcomes.
So is digging a 10m x 20m trench 300kms long, fencing it, then putting the slasher thru it every 2 months.
Or they might Roundup it, runoff will ensure your sheepies drink it.
Billions will be spent on setting up the vision of a renewable future and yet there are people here willing to quibble over the cost and go cheap.
Yeah, what’s another $50 Billion here or there gonna matter?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2023 11:34 am

LIARS!

 2

Indolentsays:

April 15, 2023 at 9:16 am

Just brilliant.

Carpe Donktum
@CarpeDonktum

As a 3rd grade teacher, I often talk about Jesus with my students, they are so excited to hear about my faith. They point to the cross on wall and ask me about the resurrection.

Some have gotten baptized in the sink, as long as they don’t tell their parents. It’s our secret.

Oh?
Brilliant?
Are you OK with teachers peddling “little secrets from parents”?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 15, 2023 11:35 am

Don’t bother with that NIMBY stuff on me.
I’m against this on principle for all our rural communities. The exact path is not yet settled but a ‘back of the truck’ document has us in the path. We’ll see.
Go to Skipton in western Vic and have a look at the industrial landscape they’re created with turbines and power lines.
BTW
Wind turbine heads are full of oil. It’s how they lubricate the gearing. The seals do fail and they flick oil hundreds of metres around.
The compaction of soil by the movement of materials and the building of big tower lines would be far worse than narrower trenching operations. We have seen this type of pipe and cable burial first hand.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
April 15, 2023 11:35 am

Used to flat with a guy who became chief engineer for a power company. They were doing a subdivision that wS to be fed underground. In the 70’s it was 20% dearer to do. The council wouldn’t accept it being added to the cost of the blocks so in went overhead wires. Another mate lived there. A small street of 10 houses all paid to have underground. The nearby streets complained about it but weren’t willing to pay the extra cost themselves. I am so over it. I want, I want, I want but don’t want to pay for it. Eff em.

The cost of a new subdivision and Distribution mains is way different to Transmission.

Distribution is 240/415 volts, sometimes includes 11kV

Transmission is anything above 11kV.

Distribution uses basically the same cable for overhead and underground, no real difference in cost.
Also, during a new subdivision, you will have excavation for power, water, telecommunications, gas and sewerage.
It makes sense to install underground here.

The costs of HV Transmission underground are totally different to LV Distribution.

Winston Smith
April 15, 2023 11:36 am

Johanna:

If I had to bet, I’d bet on failure.

I went looking for a bet on the referendum – not much going on, I notice.
But anyway – here’s a representation of a First Nations House Group.
Representative of the Canberra Tribe and no one else.

132andBush
132andBush
April 15, 2023 11:37 am

Sancho Panzer says:
April 15, 2023 at 8:14 am
Phhht!
Big Farmer!

Not big enough to convert the old shearing shed into a convention centre.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 15, 2023 11:38 am

I’m being moderated.
They don’t fence buried lines.

MatrixTransform
April 15, 2023 11:39 am

The main physics and economics lesson is this … air is a free and very effective insulator

just stop sancho … you’re embarrassing yourself

rickw
rickw
April 15, 2023 11:43 am

The French would start registering their displeasure by setting Adam Bandt’s house on fire.

The French do seem to be winning.

Winston Smith
April 15, 2023 11:44 am

Vicki:

I don’t think these guys have any understanding of agricultural productivity.

They don’t know, and they don’t care. As far as they’re concerned food is like power – it just arrives when you demand it. The consequences of fiddling with the process are beyond them.
As someone said the other day, “The dildo of consequences rarely comes prelubed.”

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 15, 2023 11:44 am

Rick.
The technical argument works for us because it’s so poorly and badly presented by the proponents.
I don’t want any lines above or below because we know it’s a green Ponzi scheme for investors.
Under grounding because of bushfire risk is an argument worth using.
We’re fighting here not writing academic papers.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 15, 2023 11:47 am

Excerpts from the full show.

———

The HighWire with Del Bigtree:

Without a proper risk-benefit analysis, governments have embarked on deindustrializing their nations, seemingly in unison, to make way for the unscientific and unattainable net zero dream. But, are they succeeding, or is Net Zero a big Zero?

NET ZERO A BIG ZERO?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 15, 2023 11:49 am

Sorry, Gez, but it’s not true. Digging and installing vast amounts of underground cables is more expensive than overhead lines.

Johanna – Maybe not after the power company and their insurers hear how much the damages awarded will be from the lawsuits after the fires. Always have to look at the intangibles as well as the capital cost. At least one large company I worked for went bankrupt when bitten in that way (fortunately I’d left by then).

Makka
Makka
April 15, 2023 11:50 am

If you illegally leak anything classified against the Biden regime, even if it proves they’re lying about a war … you’ll get raided by the FBI, perp walked, slammed in the press as a traitor, and probably spend the rest of your life in prison.

Classic Stasi MO. You find yourself in a Police State if you become too recognized by the totalitarian left. It will be interesting over time to see how much of the US voting population embrace their Stasi overlords. I’m not hopeful. Cloaked as Socialism, it’s growing in popularity because inequality.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2023 11:50 am

A European brown bear (Ursus arctos arctos) foraging among rocks on mountain slope in Italy.

Authorities had also applied for the bear to be put down in 2020, when it attacked a father and son near the same area, Reuters reported, but a court ruling overturned the decision.

I await a spirited defence from our very own Ursus Occidental Non Tiaris.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 15, 2023 11:52 am

johanna says:
April 15, 2023 at 11:23 am

Apart from JC, areff and one ot two others, most commenters have not the faintest understanding of US culture.

Hint – it is not the same as here, or what is on TV.

johanna,

having been to the US over 60 times over many years, and having been to 40 out 50 States of America, with many memorable road trips over the whole of the Country, I believe I have a reasonable understanding of US Culture and the differences between Maine/New Hampshire/Mass to Minnesota/Wisconsin/Wyoming to Texas/Mississppi/New Mexico/Colorado to California/Hawaii are quite distinctive

Yet I still feel America is on a downward trend

Winston Smith
April 15, 2023 11:52 am

Jorge:

Not much about the content of the files, the lies about Ukraine and the surveillance and distrust of allies like Poland.

You noticed that too, huh?
Very few did…
🙂

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2023 11:52 am

Under grounding because of bushfire risk is an argument worth using.
We’re fighting here not writing academic papers.

True.
But being armed with facts (or conventional wisdom) likely to be used by the other side is essential.

Makka
Makka
April 15, 2023 11:52 am

Leaking the truth has become a life custodian sentence. We should all look differently on Snowden and Assange in light of the great Lies , Hoaxes and Cheating we have been forced to swallow these last years.

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