Open Thread – Tues 18 April 2023


The Incredulity of Saint Thomas, Caravaggio, 1601

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Zatara
Zatara
April 19, 2023 1:12 pm

Essex White Hart pub displaying golly dolls vandalised

“A pub where golliwog dolls were seized by police has been daubed with paint and had five windows damaged.

The White Hart Inn, in Grays, Essex was targeted at about 00:40 BST on Sunday, and Essex Police said it was conducting extra patrols in the area.

Five officers seized several of the offensive dolls on 4 April as part of an investigation into an allegation of hate crime.”

calli
calli
April 19, 2023 1:13 pm

Going to be some interesting comparisons drawn in those who mourn Father Bob and the funeral and memorials to Cardinal Pell.

Roger
Roger
April 19, 2023 1:15 pm

Looks like Chalmers will not increase Jobseeker payments as recommended by his advisory committee.

“Labor will always support the vulnerable where possible but budgetary constraints…”.

The political reality for Labor is that at some point the NDIS is going to have to be cut to sustain other welfare programs, particularly if interest rate increases send us into recession.

calli
calli
April 19, 2023 1:18 pm

Innocent golliwogs having a quiet evening at the pub, swooped upon and detained by police because they’re black.

I call that a hate crime.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 19, 2023 1:22 pm

We might just have to accept that there is a small minority of trigger-happy, iodine hoarding Truthers and Preppers out there.

No way. They would never.

Or maybe he was reading on the electric interwebs about standing (and falling if necessary)

He can read all about it for the next 20 years, undisturbed.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 19, 2023 1:25 pm

Andrew Hastie on Mark McGowan:

The truth is that he’s a prison guard looking for work now that the pandemic has finished

I have a lot of questions about Hastie but he nailed this one.

C.L.
C.L.
April 19, 2023 1:25 pm

Meanwhile, in the former Christian kingdom of Britain…

https://twitter.com/MorgothsReview/status/1648304144145424385

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 19, 2023 1:27 pm

Skinsuit cavorting in the first degree.
This is grigglebot dancing in mummie at goodbye horses x10!

Doctor Who has degenerated into a right-on lecture

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/04/18/doctor-who-has-degenerated-into-a-right-on-lecture/

If the PR drive is anything to go by, the message of the upcoming series, which begins this autumn, is all about diversity – and, in particular, LGBT representation. Earlier this month, the BBC announced that Jinkx Monsoon – a two-time winner of RuPaul’s Drag Race, who goes by she / they pronouns – will ‘appear in a major role’ in the upcoming series. Monsoon is joined by Ncuti Gatwa, whose casting has been widely celebrated in the press, largely on the grounds of his identity. He will become Doctor Who’s first black lead, and the Doctor he plays will be gay, too. Meanwhile, a new character, Rose, will be a transwoman, played by trans actor Yasmin Finney. Some critics have hailed this series as a new ‘queer era of Doctor Who’.

Dr Poo-puncher

Dot
Dot
April 19, 2023 1:29 pm

Dr Who is irredeemable at this point.

rickw
rickw
April 19, 2023 1:29 pm

Another one.
This time it was fatal.
No suggestion of burglary or other criminal intent.

Give it a week for the truth to percolate to the surface. Maybe it happened exactly as reported, maybe it didn’t happen as reported.

Zatara
Zatara
April 19, 2023 1:29 pm

NEW YORK — A 20-year-old woman was shot and killed Saturday after she and three others accidentally turned into the wrong driveway while looking for a friend’s house in rural upstate New York, authorities said.

As usual, there seems to be a bit more to this story that the victim’s spokesperson and the clickbait press is letting on.

81 year old man. Living on a very secluded property out in the sticks, with a driveway more than 200m long, signposted with ‘No Trespassing’ signs. 10 o’clock at night.

2 people in a car “looking for a friend’s house” pull into his driveway and supposedly turn right around to leave.

This 81 year old man sees them, interprets what he sees as a threat, arms himself, leaves his house, advances to a position where he can shoot, shoots. All while the car is “turning around”. Really?

Suspect’s spokesman – “This was not a simple case of coming up a driveway and turning around. The description I was given by my client is there were multiple vehicles, including a motorcycle, revving engines, coming up the driveway at a high rate of speed.”

The truth will be somewhere in between I think.

rickw
rickw
April 19, 2023 1:32 pm

The truth is that he’s a prison guard looking for work now that the pandemic has finished

Pretty accurate, in Victoria’s case it’s a psychopath prison guard….

rickw
rickw
April 19, 2023 1:34 pm

Suspect’s spokesman – “This was not a simple case of coming up a driveway and turning around. The description I was given by my client is there were multiple vehicles, including a motorcycle, revving engines, coming up the driveway at a high rate of speed.”

Narrative starting to unravel within about 20 minutes….

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 19, 2023 1:35 pm

Alamak!says:
April 19, 2023 at 1:11 pm
Boambee – Not much is my guess for an average, at best, Media fluffer for the Greens/teal/Labor mob. Won’t be long before every said Left-wing Pollies have their own Chat GPT Media Bot to do the fluffing and how will poor shills survive then …

Grandpa Ed Simpson isn’t a bot? Who knew?

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 19, 2023 1:36 pm

In looking for traditional scientists declaring “women don’t have a penis” I found this article.
https://exploringyourmind.com/castration-anxiety-according-to-psychoanalysis/
Wow, did Freud believe some super crazy nonsense or what?

The 50cent tour of 20th century psychology I’ve heard basically says that some of his ideas were carried forward and developed further by others such as Jung, while some of Freud’s more bizarre ideas were politely left exactly where they were and not to be touched again with a barge pole. I do rather hope the above is in that latter category.

P
P
April 19, 2023 1:40 pm

Shorten outlines key areas of reform in NDIS ‘reboot’
19 April 2023
The National Disability Insurance Scheme is set to undergo serious and systemic reform to ensure it continues to meet people’s needs in the long term. Source: SBS News.

More than half a million Australians receive support from the NDIS, which was established almost 10 years ago by the Gillard Labor government.

The scheme is on track to be one of the federal Budget’s biggest expenses, with projections showing it will cost more than $50 billion by 2025/26, overtaking the annual cost of Medicare.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 19, 2023 1:41 pm

High school cheerleader, going to college, Disney fan and all-round girl-next-door.
She sure has put a lot of effort in over many years to create a cover for a burglary of some old fart’s farmhouse.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 19, 2023 1:46 pm

SITREP 4/18/23: Dark Clouds Roll In, As Things Heat Up

SIMPLICIUS THE THINKER
19 APR 2023

Firstly, let’s get the leaker out of the way. One interesting thing that’s come to light is that Jack Teixeira, the air national guardsman from Massachusetts who leaked the documents, did in fact have a TS-SCI clearance—which is Top Secret Sensitive Compartmented Information. This is beyond a simple top secret clearance, as the SCI portion would enable him to view far more sensitive types of information.

But what’s more interesting is that he worked for the infamous and highly-storied 102nd Intelligence Wing. This unit was in fact embroiled in some major controversy and coverups, now deemed “conspiracy theories”, particularly in relation to 9/11, where it appeared to be complicit with the plot to withhold U.S. air response in order to allow the hijacked planes to carry out their functions.

Some further shocking revelations include one report which said that Teixeira had actually been sharing secret files for over a year already, from as early as March 2022 because he was disillusioned with the U.S. government, regretted joining the service, and also thought that Russia and Ukraine should reconcile. Gateway Pundit reported that he first transcribed documents himself and merely posted the text online, but then started taking the documents home and photographing them to upload them fully to the net. The fact that he could get away with slipping these highly classified docs from the secure facilities and take them home is very surprising.

What apparently happened was that he initially posted them only to close friends in one Discord group he was a member of, but eventually other people from that group re-posted those documents in other groups, like Minecraft servers, etc., and that’s how the docs inevitably leaked to a larger audience and garnered attention. But prior to being posted in secondary chat groups, he was allegedly posting these docs to the first primary group since early last year. And that whole time it had gone undetected.

Meanwhile, mainstream media has even been trying to spin the leaks into something beneficial:

In fact, there are more and more signals from the West and their MSM lapdogs that Ukraine’s mighty offensive will be rescheduled to next year. The public-conditioning operation is already in full force, with NYTimes and other outlets carefully preparing and pre-shaping public reception by slowly introducing lowered expectations.

It’s difficult to truly tell how much coming from the West is genuine as opposed to deliberate disinfo to sidetrack Russia in preparation for Ukraine’s true offensives.

There are many such games going on, as reported by Russian forces on the frontlines. For instance, from Russian Two Majors channel:

This is in addition to major radio games, mentioned above, where Ukrainian forces are now deliberately ‘projecting’ and telegraphing various plans and movements in order to mislead and trick Russian forces. RYBAR reported on how sophisticated these methods from the AFU have gotten in recent times:

Russia is taking things slowly and patiently. The signaling coming from Russia is that this conflict can go on for a long time, and Russia is concentrating on equipping its economy in a sustainable way that will allow it to successfully conduct the war while simultaneously enjoying economic growth and prosperity.

Ex-Russian General and now State Duma deputy Andrei Gurulyov said the following yesterday:

State Duma deputy Gurulev said that the conflict in Ukraine will end by 2030. According to him, by that time Ukraine will basically cease to exist: “We see how Orthodox priests are being bullied, hatred for Russia is being hammered into children’s heads, this is done by people who used to live in Russia – a country that was once called the Soviet Union. If they are going to drown the whole Crimea in blood, then we have only one way out – by force.

No monetary hubs of Poland will help, or thoughts that there will be another Ukraine somewhere. She won’t. Basically, it won’t. This project will be closed one way or another, this is clear to all sane people. There are questions about the time it will take: a year, two, three, five. The deadline is 2027-2030.” I agree with Gurulev that Ukraine will cease to exist. Moreover, it will cease to exist not “in principle”, but in reality. Ukraine will disappear from the world map.

And until this happens, the war will not end. How long it will take no one knows.

Some will balk and say well, if it takes Russia til 2030 to beat Ukraine then that means Russia is weak

To that I say, so be it. Russia will be ‘weak’ then, and NATO will have been even weaker for losing to it over the course of 10 years. The juvenile banter about ‘weak or strong’ is not what this war is about. For Russia it’s about survival. If Russia has to take 10 years to maximize its strengths and win in the way that serves its interests best, then that’s how long it will take.

At the end of the day, if Russia was so ‘weak’ for its handling of the current conflict, then NATO would likely have already pounced and finished Russia off. But instead, NATO is shiftily waffling around and acting really nervous—that should tell you something.

The pilot also makes some interesting statements regarding Ukrainian air and anti-air capabilities. Firstly, he emphasizes the huge difference between flying in Syria and Ukraine, and goes on to praise the Ukrainian foe:

The Ukrainian army is a strong opponent. We are confronted by professionals of the Soviet school, who studied in the same academies as us. At first, we also met highly motivated fighters. And in war, the main thing is morale. The most dangerous ones were those with crosses and swastikas on their chests and brainwashed heads. These butted heads very hard. But now the staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is gradually being ground up. The initiative is on our side, and it is important not to lose it.

He also makes the following interesting statement regarding Ukraine’s pilot attrition:

As far as I know, last year there was a third-year graduate from the only Ukrainian military aviation school in Kharkiv. And you’re supposed to study for five years. What is the third year? This is when they taught takeoff and landing in an abbreviated course – and that’s all. Until you work for 10-15 years as a real military pilot and learn how to perform combat tasks automatically, you are just a flying target.

Therefore, the period of flight activity of Ukrainian pilots has been greatly reduced. Now we see that in fact the Ukrainian pilot is a suicide bomber.

Forbes also released a new article bemoaning the ‘usefulness’ of new American Avenger missiles—the same ones that failed to protect America’s own troops in Syria recently.

Once again, the naive U.S. military learns a hard lesson from this war.

The article ends with another stunning admission, that due to their vulnerability—quelle surprise!—the Avengers may never actually see true combat:

If this all seems like a giant headache—well, that might explain why the Ukrainians so far have consigned their Avengers to a sector of the country where there’s no major ground combat.

They might never deploy the Avengers to do what they were designed to do: escort front-line brigades.

Truth is, the U.S. has to get its own house in order. Just yesterday a score of U.S. troops were injured in a major accident, when their Stryker vehicle collided with a MaxxPro MRAP in Germany:

And this comes after news broke that Ukrainians have already lost their first one or two Leopards in a training collision.

In this video, a Polish officer can be seen describing what he saw, and his quite frank estimation of Ukrainian tankers:

“I’ll be honest, I’ve never seen such clumsy [tank] control anywhere before.”

Days ago, a Canadian outlet released a damaging report highlighting the complete chaos inside the AFU. ‘The White Papers’, as it’s called, is a report written by three retired NATO officers who spent the last nine months fighting in Ukraine.

The lengthy report outlines a Ukrainian military command structure that, at times, is in disarray and a crumbling military communication system that could result in losing “generations of Ukrainians” if intervention in military tactics isn’t taken.

Two of the authors are former high ranking members of the U.S. Special Forces. The third, who spoke to CTV News on the condition of anonymity, is a former major with the Canadian Armed Forces. In an effort to conceal his identity, CTV News has agreed to refer to him as Matthew.

The officers relay that Ukraine has had massive losses of its officer corps:

“They (the Ukrainian army) have had huge losses with their junior officers. It’s well documented.” He’s also points out by releasing the White Papers, “We’re striving for the better outcome. We’re not striving to criticize the Ukrainian military.”

Another report from Dutch newspaper De Volkskrant goes off on a similar beat:

You can read the jaw-dropping highlights for yourself:

“The army of Ukraine is bursting at the seams”!

Not that we’d necessarily expect for them to admit it, but it’s worth mentioning.

A report posted by the AFU’s 35th Brigade on their channel stated that they will have absolutely no remorse for cowards and quitters. Not only did they openly say anyone who turns back will be shot:

Ukrainian army threatens to kill any soldier who deserts or refuses to fight.

“Those who are afraid to go on offensive, we will kill onspot. In new and strong Ukraine there is no place for cowards.” -Ukraine Army 35th brigade on Telegram.

But they even admitted that they will weld cold-footed tankers into their tanks to make sure they don’t run away at inopportune times:

In the 35th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, skeptical soldiers will be brewed in tanks

“Those who are afraid to go on the offensive, we will kill on the spot. In the new and strong Ukraine there is no place for cowards. We will weld the doubters in tanks so that they do not run away at a difficult moment. Time requires such actions,” the Ukrainian telegram channel says.

Striking as that may seem, it has already been a well-documented tactic of the AFU. Not only do we have videos like this one, of Russian soldiers describing seeing this at the front:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1603865701332181017

But there is even a direct video showing a Ukrainian tank captured with its hatch welded shut and its surrendered crew trapped inside by Ukrainian blocking officers:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1601866882356846592

Well, that’s all for now—things are certainly due to heat up soon as the period of the AFU’s grand offensive watch is now beginning, with the mud season due to start coming to an end soon. A higher intensity period is likely to begin as the dregs of Winter wash away.

I leave you with these last few headlines as a reflection on the state of things:

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 19, 2023 1:47 pm

rickw says:
April 19, 2023 at 1:34 pm

Suspect’s spokesman – “This was not a simple case of coming up a driveway and turning around. The description I was given by my client is there were multiple vehicles, including a motorcycle, revving engines, coming up the driveway at a high rate of speed.”

Narrative starting to unravel within about 20 minutes….

His lawyer putting some Mayo on it.
OK. It’s a 200 metre driveway. If they came up it at ‘high speed’ they would have been at his door in seconds. Even at 60 kmh that would take 12 seconds.
As for ‘revving engines’ is firing at the car a proportionate response?
It seems the evidence is the fatal bullet did not come from head on, which makes it a trifle awkward for the shooter.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 19, 2023 1:49 pm

Dr Who is irredeemable at this point.

They could do a “Dallas” and retconn the last 15 years as all being a nightmare cause by the dr being put into some sort of mind torture machine/ shower cubicle by the Master.

C.L.
C.L.
April 19, 2023 1:52 pm

Sad to see Barnaby Joyce’s betrayed ex-wife do this to herself. She had a nice middle-aged woman’s physique – now ruined.

bespoke
bespoke
April 19, 2023 1:52 pm

Secondly, I’m not sure people are actually arguing that the West or US is over

Sure! No way people can come to that assumption with statements like this.

The West died by suicide.

Chuckle.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 19, 2023 1:53 pm

Yeah, being an authority on Doctor Who is deffo proof that you’re not a Flamer.
Keep tellin’ yourself that.

calli
calli
April 19, 2023 1:54 pm

One of the comments from C.L.’s twitter link:

sny
@can_sny
·
15h
This is all about demoralizing normal people

I have to agree. The sheer volume of propaganda is depressing. On every front which makes it seem impossible to fight. So the temptation to retreat and cocoon becomes strong and almost irresistible.

Which is just what they want.

Witness the quantity of inane trolling on every subject imaginable just on this site alone. Then go over to C.L.’s and see the same stuff regurgitated.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 19, 2023 1:56 pm

Quiet side bet.
What odds Hunchback gives Fr Bob a state funeral?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 19, 2023 1:57 pm

Ed job lacing its mutton with gypsum again.

Go rub more liniment on mummies suppurating pustule you freak.

In other horrible creatures new, one of the chaps here onsite is a little miserable after attempting to tickle a redback.
Nothing morphine and icepacks cant help with though.

C.L.
C.L.
April 19, 2023 1:58 pm

I sense that the world is sick and tired of the war in Ukraine.

Even the Albanese government has told the Uke panhandlers to bugger off re Hawkei vehicles.

‘Bad breaks.’ LOL.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 19, 2023 2:00 pm

From the Comments on above Article

Simplicius has another site, Dark Futura

War of the Eternals – How the Eloi’s Fractionalization of Language Keeps Us Divided

Ever notice how the average person these days can’t hold two opposing ideas simultaneously in their heads? Always leaning on the crutch of one extreme or the other? You know the famous quote, misattributed to a score of people throughout history:

The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.

Today’s societal discourse is a roost ruled by demagogues and firebrands. Social media has created an environment where long-form thought is quickly becoming obsolete, upstaged by the cutting, emotionally-charged demagoguery we’ve now come to expect in most online ‘discussions’. The tagline, byword, buzz-line rules above all.

Twitter popularized sharing ideas in bite-sized chunks of a hundred and eighty characters. Before long, even noted academics were scribbling pieces in newly reductivist cant, using bastardizations of language like ‘bcuz’ or ‘/w’ to fit arbitrary wordcount constraints.

Anti-intellectualism has long been the fashion of the day, but these incremental designs have slowly eroded our ability to express, and therefore navigate, complex problems. Everything in our culture now springs from baseness—or is steered towards it. Reductivism of thought and concepts, false-dichotomies and dualisms—they are Overton Windows which are constantly pushed on us under duress, coercing us to think reductively in a way that keeps us from puzzling things out.

These techniques are part and parcel to the mass-scale engineered misdirection the ruling class has been utilizing since the late aughts, which I wrote about here:

Gossamer Tethers of Our Reality Constructs

Naming and exploring the Noumonicon.

Rise of the TechnoGod: Artificial Intelligence Black Swan and the AI Threat No One is Talking About

Fracturing Identity at the Altar of Transhumanism

How the engineered social upheavals of the post-Obama era dovetailed into a transhumanist revolution, for the sake of keeping the collapse of the global order at bay.

Legacy Media is an Antiquated, Obsolete Relic

And when their grip on power over narrative loosens, things get desperate.

The Fourth Estate

A very long time ago what is now called journalism played an important part in a society bereft of any long-distance communications. Long before the internet, or even telegraphs and telegrams, there was no real way for humans to learn about events in another province or state, much less another part of the world.

Not only were normal citizens removed from distant events, but even had they been in the vicinity, a slew of courtly concerns were simply out of reach for the commoner. The earliest ‘newspapers’ often reported such royal demarches by way of connections to the elite upper crust. The point being that, even the act of obtaining information considered newsworthy would often be a privileged action.

Over time, however, news services became incrementally less of an essential utility and more of a ‘convenience’. For instance, during World War 1, the average citizen of most developed countries could hypothetically apprise himself of a given piece of news or breaking update on the war across the ocean with a timely telegram sent to a friend or family in the place of interest. But lining up in front of a news service bulletin printing live updates on the situation, was certainly in many ways more convenient, and faster.

Age Of Regression Upon Us

On the threshold of Neo-Luddism, and other things.

The other day I stumbled into a Walmart for the first time in many moons, and was awestruck to see the music section converted into a wall of vinyl records. Must be some sort of vintage sale gimmick, thought I. But upon closer inspection, I discovered these were new releases, of every conceivable genre and artist. And to boot, being offered up right next to it, were brand new record players. Not those cheap electronic knock-offs with circular touchpads modern DJ’s use to mimick record scratches—but actual, real-minted, newly-produced record players. Sure, they were embellished with a skin of splashy modern design—but they were record players, nonetheless. Had I stepped through a portal into the ‘70s?

Coincidentally, just two days prior I’d seen this article about Metallica having purchased their own personal vinyl pressing plant, in light of surging vinyl sales. In fact, in recent times vinyl has surpassed the sale of CD’s for the first time since 1987.

calli
calli
April 19, 2023 2:00 pm

The ex-Mrs Joyce can do whatever she pleases. If it’s body building, good for her. At least she hasn’t retreated to the freezer cabinet and the endless icecream pails of despair. Or decided to become a man.

There’s two sides to every break-up story though. And I bet there is to this one too.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 19, 2023 2:02 pm

Sad to see Barnaby Joyce’s betrayed ex-wife do this to herself.

Yerg.

She looks like a cute owl that’s been left in the sun for eight months or so.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 19, 2023 2:03 pm

Dot says: April 19, 2023 at 1:29 pm

Dr Who is irredeemable at this point.

All seemingly part of a wider programme to trash everybody’s childhood heroes and instill hopelessness in the proles as adults. It’s almost excusable for Doctor Who since the Doctor was capable of regenerating into very different appearances anyway, but who ever said a male Doctor can’t be a role model to girls too?

They’ve done it to Captain America.
Have they done it to Superman yet?
One could argue some of the Tim Burton Batman movies were heading in that direction.
I fear it’s all leading to Arnold Schwarzenegger in a tutu.
Or possibly a Predator with abandonment issues and gender dysphoria.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 19, 2023 2:05 pm

Meanwhile, in the former Christian kingdom of Britain…

I recall people doing that in 1935, although they used different colours.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 19, 2023 2:09 pm

Working my way through Shitweasel’s National Electric Vehicle Strategy. Unsurprisingly, aside from the proposed Fuel Efficiency Standard, there is little of practical substance:

* Preparing for a recycling, reuse and stewardship initiative for EV and other large
format batteries
* Developing a national mapping tool to support optimal investment in – and
deployment of – EV charging infrastructure
* Tools and guidance to enable EV uptake for residents of existing multi-residential
buildings
* Funding to support world-leading EV guidance, demonstrations, and training
for emergency service workers

The Fuel Efficiency Standard itself is a blunt weapon – essentially a penalty on vehicle manufacturers who fail to import/sell enough EV’s to offset the sales of higher emitting vehicles. Five minutes on the back of a coaster fleshes out the unintended consequences.

Most of the document is a collection of parables and prayers from concerned citizens desperate to own an EV, or for EV’s to urgently save the world. Some passeth the understanding of man:

“There are opportunities to be seized as the
world makes this transition. Australia is rich
in the resources necessary to enable zero
emissions vehicles, meaning there are new
job and investment opportunities that will
deliver for our economy going forward.”
– Business Council of Australia

We are saved by ‘the resources necessary to enable zero
emissions vehicles’. Apparently.

And, of course, the Strategy comes with an absolutely stonking ‘Acknowledgement of Country’.

C.L.
C.L.
April 19, 2023 2:09 pm

I recall people doing that in 1935, although they used different colours.

It is stunningly evocative of Berlin at that time.

dopey
dopey
April 19, 2023 2:10 pm

I see the Voice is now ‘constitutional reform.’ They’ll give anything a run if they think it will go over.

C.L.
C.L.
April 19, 2023 2:16 pm

I see the Voice is now ‘constitutional reform.’

I’m surprised they didn’t go with ‘constitutional care.’

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
April 19, 2023 2:16 pm

The Bab Bee strikes again! Chortle, snork!

WILMINGTON, DE — In a stunning result that came much more quickly than observers expected, the 12-member jury in the Fox News-Dominion Software trial has voted in favor of Dominion by a count of 138,000 to 1.

“This was a complete reversal of the way things looked just last night,” legal analyst Alan Dershowitz said when word of the ruling began to come out. “It seemed like the decision would end up being much closer, but at some indiscernible point, a massive number of jury members flocked to Dominion’s side of the argument. A total landslide decision!”

Lysander
Lysander
April 19, 2023 2:17 pm

I’ll just leave this here but…

The claremont serial killer liked dressing up in womens’ undies/clothes…

So… I guess Karine JP would think it a victim these days, right?

Lysander
Lysander
April 19, 2023 2:23 pm

Bahahaha….


The Republican supermajority in West Virginia’s House of Delegates became more lopsided Monday after Del. Elliott Pritt switched from the Democratic Party, the state’s GOP leader said.

Pritt, a teacher, is in his first term after defeating a Republican incumbent in the 2022 election.

“I want to welcome Delegate Elliott Pritt to the Republican Party,” West Virginia Republican Party chairwoman Elgine McArdle said in a statement. “Like so many West Virginians, Delegate Pritt has recognized that the Democratic Party of today is not the Democratic Party that our parents grew up with.”

Mountain mamma…take me home…

duncanm
duncanm
April 19, 2023 2:24 pm

Sweden’s public radio said Tuesday that it would stop being active on Twitter,

So – one would expect that all the public media institutions leaving should mean that they can now reduce costs by getting rid of those people who spent their entire time putting material on twitter.

No ?

Cassie of Sydney
April 19, 2023 2:25 pm

“The claremont serial killer liked dressing up in womens’ undies/clothes…”

Not an uncommon thing for deviants, perverts and serial killers to do. I watched a Youtube documentary earlier this year and a chief suspect in the Beaumont children’s disappearance also liked to attire himself in satin clothes, which of course sexually aroused him.

Figures
Figures
April 19, 2023 2:28 pm

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/gold-coast-woman-bella-fidlers-sudden-death-in-just-24-hours/news-story/31115331ca083b7a9cc6a76b1a5ce1e2

Vaccinations – you only have to mention the word and virtually everybody loses half their IQ points and all of their principles.

Can the vaccine worshippers here please use some introspection for the education of myself and explain why you’re so desperate to cling to them despite all reason? Surely you must know, deep down, that your love of these vile concoctions makes you completely insane. So why are you prepared to go mad just to defend them?

Dot? You are sane on virtually every other issue but mention vaccines or germs and all of a sudden 2 and 2 make purple.

Monty is insane on every issue and obviously incapable of introspection so I’m not interested in his thoughts (and I use that term loosely).

Cassie? You’re absolutely amazing. And yet, you still cling to the idea that diseases are contagious despite the fact that a simple stroll into a hospital or doctor office will definitively prove that they aren’t.

Oh and BTW, total invasive disease rates have risen since the various meningitis vaccines – Hib, Prevenar etc. I mean, surely it’s obvious. Vaccine for a particular germ gets introduced, doctors still see those corresponding symptoms (in this case meningitis, pneumonia, sepsis) but stop testing for/blaming that germ.

It is obvious. But there’s a psychosis around vaccines (and germs) and I would love for the otherwise intelligent people who are completely mesmerized by them to explain it. Note that I am not interested in your nonsensical mental gymnastics – I’ve heard them a million times before and destroyed them all. I’m interested in knowing why vaccinations create such a deep feeling of loyalty that you’re willing to destroy your mind just to defend them.

Just as remarkable, when you provide an explanation of disease that isn’t mathematically impossible and actually explains all the noted phenomena people attack you. I mean, wouldn’t you *want* to know the secret as to what causes diseases? Apparently not. Because understanding what actually causes diseases means you can no longer believe in the precious, wonderful, magical vaccinations – the ones that don’t work and cause injuries and deaths. And you can’t have that. For some reason.

Jorge
Jorge
April 19, 2023 2:28 pm

I sense that the world is sick and tired of the war in Ukraine.

This must only confirm Xi’s daydreams. The same for Taiwan.

I wouldn’t send my grandkids to war there.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 19, 2023 2:29 pm

I see the Voice is now ‘constitutional reform.’ They’ll give anything a run if they think it will go over.

“Once the Voice is enshrined in the Constitution, they won’t be able to get rid of it, the way they did ATSIC.” Linda Burney.

Lysander
Lysander
April 19, 2023 2:29 pm

The Demonrats in West Virginia are in a lot of strife at a State level. Jo Manchin, surely, is in trouble for US Senate? Their off-the-cliff reduction in recent Statewide figures haven’t been this bad since the Great Depression…

Perhaps all the coal closures in WV are taking their toll…

Lysander
Lysander
April 19, 2023 2:32 pm

Monty is insane on every issue and obviously incapable of introspection so I’m not interested in his thoughts (and I use that term loosely).

Figures, Monty was only expounding the virtues of poo smearing a few days ago, he loves germs…

apparently…

Cassie of Sydney
April 19, 2023 2:36 pm

“Cassie? You’re absolutely amazing. And yet, you still cling to the idea that diseases are contagious despite the fact that a simple stroll into a hospital or doctor office will definitively prove that they aren’t.”

Err…what…..I think you have a case of mistaken identity here, but since you’ve mentioned my name, it is an indisputable fact that many diseases are contagious.

Zatara
Zatara
April 19, 2023 2:44 pm

Sweden’s public radio said Tuesday that it would stop being active on Twitter

That seems a reasonable thing to do as the ‘coordinating govt propaganda and censorship division’ doesn’t exist there anymore.

I mean if you can’t control the media what use is it?

Zatara
Zatara
April 19, 2023 2:58 pm

Jo Manchin, surely, is in trouble for US Senate?

Actually, I think Manchin’s seat is fairly safe as his reputation is someone who does what is right for his state first and the party far second such as when the greenies wanted to wipe out coal production.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he switched parties as well though. The WV state legislature is super majority Republican and the state has somewhat of a tradition of its politicians switching to the Republican party. Their current governor was elected as a Dem but switched to Rep 6 months into his term.

bespoke
bespoke
April 19, 2023 3:01 pm

Dover
If you are of the belief the US is in some cultural collaps then the economy will surely follow as it always has. Personally I think it isn’t as bad as the pundits say but enough to be concerned. That article it typical of 80’s hubris eccontomist of the day.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 19, 2023 3:13 pm

The Trolls here like to bring up Lysenko-ism every 5 minutes, but tell them planes alone couldna brung doon the Twin Towers, they’ll go fully Autistic.

Same with vaccines, how come Thoroughbreds aren’t vaccinated, some galah advertised one today costing $121,000 for a stud service.
What do the insurers say about that?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 19, 2023 3:19 pm

Witness the quantity of inane trolling on every subject imaginable just on this site alone

I don’t have much difficulty distinguishing between the relatively sane commenters and the others. Measured, analytic discussion on the one side, semi-hysterical on the other.

I don’t think I have Asperger’s, not at all. I simply recognise that I get better results from using my brain for thinking than from using my hormones.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 19, 2023 3:20 pm

Yesterday, as well as looking over some old memorabilia I spent an hour commenting on the Australian quick fire – eleven times, with only one comment being rejected. That one said a named ‘aboriginal’ with no identifiable aboriginal heritage or communal links was ‘on the gravy train’. Go figure, maybe they thought he would sue.

I think it was time well spent, for I got 63 upticks on one re the Libs and the Voice, and some in the 30’s as well as smaller numbers on other topics. There is a wider audience on the Oz, which makes me think it is not a waste of time to speak up there for the centre-right, as well as replying to some idiotic climate trolls, but it is not personalised in any sense, unlike the Cat, and a good comment can also get lost in the other 700 incoming.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 19, 2023 3:22 pm

If you are of the belief the US is in some cultural collapse then the economy will surely follow as it always has.

A couple of interesting things seem to be happening right now. First is that unemployment is very low. I think that is due to a lot of people no longer being able to work, due to vaccine disability. They’re invisible since no one wants to talk about them. Thus they go onto welfare quietly and soak up yet more service personnel and time in the medical space, therefore further reducing unemployment.

The second interesting thing is that commercial property prices are collapsing, especially in the US. Again that is in part due to Covid, since a large number of employees have decided they really like working from home. Encouraged too by cities like NY, LA and SF rapidly turning into pestholes. And the corporations are in a bind, since they’ve been unsuccessful getting them back into the office, yet can’t bring the hammer down since unemployment is so low.

So if there’s going to be a recession it’ll be because commercial debt will hit the banks. That’s a lot better than 2008 though, since that recession was due to residential housing debt. The quirk of the US system is that mortgage slaves can hand their keys into the bank if the house value is lower than the mortgage balance outstanding…then go get another mortgage immediately and buy another house at the lower value, and save themselves $50,000 or more. But commercial property debt isn’t like that – it’s much more like mortgage debt here, they can’t get out of it so easily.

Meanwhile vast numbers of immigrants are coming in over the border, and they all have to live somewhere. Which suggests housing is going to be in short supply. So overall I don’t know what will happen.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 19, 2023 3:23 pm

The Trolls here like to bring up Lysenko-ism every 5 minutes

Gladys Lysenko emigrated from the Ukraine in 1919, and co-founded the Queensland chapter of the Country Women’s Association in 1923. She died in 2007 as one of the great Australians of our time.

How dare you.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 19, 2023 3:24 pm

but tell them planes alone couldna brung doon the Twin Towers, they’ll go fully Autistic

Ed-Mong going the full truther.
Never go the full truther.

(its a hairs breadth away from going the full “Jews dancing as the towers tumbled”)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 19, 2023 3:27 pm

There seems to be a quiet surge in country shoppers here too – less visible because apparently they’re coming by air not leaky boat.

Stop the planes? Jet-setting asylum seeker claims soar (Daily Terror, 19 Apr, paywalled)

Thousands of would-be refugees are clogging courts and tribunals trying to stay in Australia as the number of asylum seekers arriving on our shores via plane skyrockets. Here’s why.

I can’t read the story because of the paywall, but I saw the headline this morning.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 19, 2023 3:29 pm

Here’s another one for ya:
There were no WMDs.
929,000 people in the Middle East died for a lie.

bespoke
bespoke
April 19, 2023 3:31 pm

What would Figures do if someone spat in his food?
Totally harmless right!

Indolent
Indolent
April 19, 2023 3:31 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 19, 2023 3:33 pm

there’s a psychosis around vaccines (and germs)

There sometimes is, Figures, and I’m looking your way when I’m saying that.
You are obsessed and uninformed, a bad combination in my view.
But have your say. Those who don’t think you harebrained can argue back.
I won’t waste my time with your specious ‘doctor’s waiting room’ arguments that ignore the complexities of immunity in populations. Almost 90% of the native population after the Spanish conquest of the Americas died from introduced contagious diseases to which they had no immune resistance, a pattern repeated elsewhere under Imperialism. In modern populations resistance is never total either and fast changing pathogens can still be deadly.

Crossie
Crossie
April 19, 2023 3:33 pm

Sveriges Radio said on its blog that Twitter has lost its relevance to Swedish audiences. National Public Radio and Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, meanwhile, have pointed to Twitter’s new policy of labeling them as government-funded instititutions, saying it undermines their credibility.

My, my, government mouthpieces don’t like being called what they are. What’s more, seeing as they are the official info organs I would expect accuracy to be their wheelhouse. Then again Twitter is a private enterprise and acted as an arm of the US government until Elon Musk put a stop to it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 19, 2023 3:34 pm

If the Voice is successful at referendum – President Lidia Thorpe of an Australian Republic?

Crossie
Crossie
April 19, 2023 3:36 pm

But it’s fun that Swedish government broadcasters think that Swedish snowflakes have vacated Twitter. I wonder where they’ve gone, Facechook?

They’ve gone to TikTok like snowflakes worldwide. There are no accurate labels there.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 19, 2023 3:38 pm

Ed Casesays:
April 19, 2023 at 3:29 pm
Here’s another one for ya:
There were no WMDs.
929,000 people in the Middle East died for a lie.

Grandpa Ed Simpson

Does the 929,000 include those who died in the Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s, and the suppression of the Iraqi Kurds and Marsh Arabs in the same decade? Events that involved the use of mustard and nerve gases by the Iraqi government? Or don’t they count?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 19, 2023 3:42 pm

due to a lot of people no longer being able to work, due to vaccine disability.

I agree there is a lot of it, Bruce of Newk, but I doubt if it is the only or even main factor. A lot of people also seem to have realised that it’s easier to sponge off government handouts now they’ve tried it during Covid, and as you note, it’s also easier to ‘work from home’. Also, a lot of the vaccine injury was bad for a while, but many people do gradually improve over time – that happened to my son with his vaccine-induced wrist synovitis. He’s functional again now after six months of real disability. And people are now much more wary of accepting the mRNA type of vaccine now. Boosters right down.

Indolent
Indolent
April 19, 2023 3:42 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
April 19, 2023 3:43 pm

calli at 10:08 – Yep, quality of service providers varies enormously and there isn’t much you can do but suck it and see. Anybody who has swapped GPs would relate. I’ve been lucky so far but had to swap Plan managers following complaints.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Knuckle Dragger says: April 19, 2023 at 3:23 pm
Gladys Lysenko emigrated from the Ukraine in 1919, and co-founded the Queensland chapter of the Country Women’s Association in 1923.

Lol.
Btw, neither that name, nor date, are consistent with what is written on the small plaque inside the CWA hall in town here.

Lysander
Lysander
April 19, 2023 3:46 pm

Zatara – I’m not so sure about Manchin’s re-election chances…

Jim Justice (gotta love that name) seems* to be pulling ahead by 10 points there…

*i’m not one for trusting such early polls, entirely.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 19, 2023 3:50 pm

If the Voice is successful at referendum – President Lidia Thorpe of an Australian Republic?

She’ll have to stand in line behind Marsha Marsha Marsha, sTan Grant and Pat Dodson National Treasure™.

Da Republic is in the news today again, which I take to be more softening up.

Royal expert calls into question whether PM Anthony Albanese has ‘priorities straight’ with republic referendum (Sky News, 19 Apr)

The Albanese government has committed to holding a referendum on the republic in the second term of government, should it be re-elected.

A national consultation tour is expected to begin early next year that will help the government form a campaign ahead of an expected referendum, sometime after the federal election, which is scheduled for 2025.

Speaking to 2SM on Wednesday, Mr Albanese was asked whether a republic referendum could be on the horizon amid his trip to London for the ceremony on May 6.

“I support Australia having an Australian as our head of state, but I respect the system of government that we have,” he told host Richard King.

If the political stars align you just might think Luigi could bring the Republic referendum forward combine it with the Voice one. He likes to save munni after all.

Lysander
Lysander
April 19, 2023 3:50 pm

I asked Chat to give me a reason why oligarchies don’t work, and He gave me an answer instead on why the Voice doesn’t work…

It is a matter of grave concern that the concept of entrusting legislative power solely to a single advisory body must be unequivocally denounced in the most emphatic terms. It is a fundamental principle of democratic governance that the prerogatives of accountability and transparency must be jealously safeguarded, and that no entity or grouping, no matter how eminent or authoritative, can be permitted to wield unchecked and unfettered power over the political and social fate of a given society.

The specter of placing legislative authority in the hands of a single advisory body is a veritable affront to the values of pluralism and deliberative democracy, and indeed constitutes an egregious violation of the very foundational underpinnings of our political and constitutional order.

Alamak!
Alamak!
April 19, 2023 3:51 pm

ZKIIA – She is in extreme training mode now, though as Australia’s greatest Drama Queen rather than Prez.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 19, 2023 3:51 pm

Elbow, commenting on Lidia Thorpe’s communication skills (the Tele):
“I hope that Lidia gets some support. …”

Woodstock Users Anonymous springs to mind. Can’t hurt.

Indolent
Indolent
April 19, 2023 3:52 pm

It was not meant to be rational but purely destructive, which it is on an unimaginable scale.

Why “Net Zero” Is Not a Rational U.S. Energy Policy

Indolent
Indolent
April 19, 2023 3:54 pm
Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 19, 2023 3:56 pm

‘Bud Weizer Ad Parody’…………………

https://youtu.be/B6PYN50oE1s

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 19, 2023 3:56 pm

Elbow now giving gratuitous psychological diagnoses.

Anyone who’s spent as long in Liar Cabinet as Albo has probably seen it all. As well placed as anyone.

“Take a seat. Albo will see you shortly.”

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 19, 2023 3:57 pm

Btw, neither that name, nor date, are consistent with what is written on the small plaque inside the CWA hall in town here.

You want what? Evidence of assertions thought up in 20 seconds and put on the internet?

Yeah nah.

/Ed October (cat fondler)

Zatara
Zatara
April 19, 2023 3:57 pm

Lysander – perhaps they will just switch places. Manchin was governor before Justice.

Interesting side note: Justice is the wealthiest person in the state of WV, a good portion of that wealth being from coal mining. He’ll be fun to watch slap down greenies if he gets into the US Senate.

bespoke
bespoke
April 19, 2023 3:58 pm

Woodstock Users Anonymous springs to mind. Can’t hurt.

That was not nice, Bear.

Indolent
Indolent
April 19, 2023 3:58 pm

What about moose farts, and buffalo farts, and elephant farts and deer farts etc. etc.? You will note that the emphasis is ALWAYS on the controlled human element. How could it be otherwise, when the clear object is controlling humanity?

How Cow Farts are Damaging the Environment

Lysander
Lysander
April 19, 2023 4:00 pm

Ah… didn’t know that Zatara… thanks! I hear popcorn a’ poppin’

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 19, 2023 4:02 pm

a lot of the vaccine injury was bad for a while, but many people do gradually improve over time – that happened to my son

Lizzie – I suspect also that “long Covid” is actually “long Covid vaccine”. The mRNA model is just the sort of thing to encourage autoimmune diseases. CFS is very debilitating – my mum had it and several other I know. There’s an interesting report I saw today:

New study shows ‘Long COVID’ is unrelated to having the virus (17 Apr)

A new study published in JAMA has demonstrated that so-called “Long COVID” has no statistical link to prior COVID-19. Rather, the initial severity of whatever virus a person succumbed to, along with loneliness, insufficient physical activity, and other issues are what determine the longevity of post-viral conditions.

The “it’s all in your mind” thing affected CFS patients for decades, and still does I think, it was very hard for them to find GPs who would treat it seriously. That would be doubly true for vaccine-related CFS, given the extreme opprobrium which lands on any medico who might suggest such a thing.

So these people would go onto DSP or NDIS and disappear.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 19, 2023 4:04 pm

Elbow, commenting on Lidia Thorpe’s communication skills (the Tele):
“I hope that Lidia gets some support. …”

Tennis Elbow, you are a Farking dope. And what about all the people that really need support. Like, the Aboriginal children in neglect. All other children in neglect. Battered women. The homeless. The elderly. Dan of Sicktoria and his Budget. The ‘Libs’ (lol)…………………………….etc. etc. etc. FFS

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 19, 2023 4:06 pm

EU Parliament adopts ‘holy trinity’ of climate laws

Gaia, Satan and Al Gore?

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 19, 2023 4:10 pm

Oh come on at 1:25

Andrew Hastie on Mark McGowan:

The truth is that he’s a prison guard looking for work now that the pandemic has finished

Like Emperor Barney, Sneakers end will be swift and complete. Like Chairman Dan he is lucky that State Liar is all but devoid of talent (as usual) and the State Lieborals can’t even fill the Goodies bicycle.

JC
JC
April 19, 2023 4:11 pm

Doc

I want to get back to that discussion we were having last night, where you conveyed unhappiness with the state of primary research over the past 100 years and the reasons. I am partially sympathetic to your points; however, I believe you’re underselling the astonishing advances made in applied science/engineering.

I posted the other day a WSJ piece mentioning the first mobile phone device ever used occurred on 6th Ave near the Hilton hotel in NYC. (Ironically, that was literally across the street from where I worked for several years.) It then took until around 2006 or so to see the first smart phone that looked similar to the ones we’re using now. It’s true that it took some time to make the advance, but that doesn’t mean the technology wasn’t around earlier.
 
The first smart phone could have been built in the early 90s, but the cost would have been US$5.5 million.

I brought up this example to demonstrate that massively significant advances were made to bring a smart phone to market, costing around $750 in 2006. This example shows how discreet advances have been made without much fanfare.

It’s wrong to just look at primary research without giving voice to applied science. 

Another example was the mapping of the genome about 25 years ago. The pharmaceutical industry is just getting started on the incredible advancements we’ll see in life prolonging drugs with a genetic background.

Tom
Tom
April 19, 2023 4:14 pm

Gladys Lysenko emigrated from the Ukraine in 1919, and co-founded the Queensland chapter of the Country Women’s Association in 1923. She died in 2007 as one of the great Australians of our time.

How dare you.

Thanks, KD. Laughed out loud.

JC
JC
April 19, 2023 4:16 pm

Get a load who’s praising Father Bob.

@AdamBandt

Vale, Father Bob.

A ferocious advocate for justice, refugees, and the vulnerable.

Your generosity & humour will be missed, comrade.

Did Bob even believe in God?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 19, 2023 4:17 pm

Here’s what kids get taught in the National Curriculum:

History as feelz. A lot of emotive nonsense, guided into pet tropes about ‘rights’.

No contextualising of historical forces as they play out in major conflicts, no economic history to speak of, and nothing about how key individuals act in historical perspective. In other words, no people and dates and places. It’s all rights, movements and feelz. The authentic scope of history just isn’t there.

Alamak!
Alamak!
April 19, 2023 4:18 pm

Nokia smart-ish phones

1996 – 8110 “Banana” phone
1999 – 9110 includes fax and internet
2002 – 7650 in blazing color

possibly 2006 refers to the first USA smart-ish cell

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 19, 2023 4:19 pm

“The claremont serial killer liked dressing up in womens’ undies/clothes…”

Unless it’s coming from the court transcript I’d take anything public on this with a large grain of salt. Just like MAFS.

JC
JC
April 19, 2023 4:19 pm

CL

You need to do an obit on Father Bobster.

P
P
April 19, 2023 4:20 pm

DrBeauGan says:
April 19, 2023 at 3:19 pm

I don’t have much difficulty distinguishing between the relatively sane commenters and the others. Measured, analytic discussion on the one side, semi-hysterical on the other.

I don’t think I have Asperger’s, not at all. I simply recognise that I get better results from using my brain for thinking than from using my hormones.

An article I read this morning leads me to think there is more.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 19, 2023 4:23 pm

Knuckles lift your game. 20 seconds for that when special ed and mutley pull one thing or another out of their collective arse day in day out. Come on man you’re smarter than both of them when you’re asleep. In other news no doubt you’ll be pleased the midget cheating houso ranga has been retained. Hope he replaces Joe Burns in the failure stakes.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 19, 2023 4:26 pm

New study of ‘cow farts’ and similar nonsense is now out, reported yesterday in the Australian – provides a license for everyone to now go ahead and eat meat. They conclude there is no evidence the farts do any real damage, it’s all a beat up and meat is really, really good for humans.

Some funding from meat producers I think, but good on them, fight back I say.

Rowan Dean on Outsiders on Sunday mentioned another refereed study that showed ‘the warming’ is just not happening. Gradually the scientism of the CO2 loonies is being challenged. Baby steps, but keep them coming.

Zipster
April 19, 2023 4:30 pm

Australia is rich
in the resources necessary to enable zero
emissions vehicles, meaning there are new
job and investment opportunities that will
deliver for our economy going forward

advanced firefighting equipment comes to mind….

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 19, 2023 4:37 pm

I am partially sympathetic to your points; however, I believe you’re underselling the astonishing advances made in applied science/engineering.

I wasn’t talking about what I call development and you call applied science/engineering. I was talking about what I call fundamental science. The pursuit of knowledge and understanding, and absence of interest in making a buck.

A useful book is Not Even Wrong by Woit. It argues that String Theory isn’t Physics, but doesn’t get down to the socio-dynamics of why string theory has dominated so much fundamental research. My claim is that it’s funding committees.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 19, 2023 4:37 pm

Excellent interview.

———-

John Stossel:

18 Apr 2023
Green activists want to BAN fossil fuels. I wish they’d listen to energy author Alex Epstein.

He explains how fossil fuels make the world better, and how banning them ruins lives.

How can fossil fuels be “moral” when activists tell us, “keep it in the ground?”

Because:

“3 billion people …. still use less electricity than a typical American refrigerator” says Epstein. To allow them to have a modern life, “that’s going to depend on fossil fuels.”

But what about pollution and climate change?

I push back throughout this extended interview.

The Full Alex Epstein: the Moral Case for Fossil Fuels, Renewable Energy, and Green Deceptions

JC
JC
April 19, 2023 4:41 pm

Far enough Doc.

How would you address the problem with fundamental science?

JC
JC
April 19, 2023 4:41 pm

Fair enough Doc.

How would you address the problem with fundamental science?

Winston Smith
April 19, 2023 4:41 pm

Thefrolickingmoll:
Not doubting the budding rocket surgeon might have not been exactly as reported.
But do you have a link to the “incorrect” version of the shooting?
Bear with me – I just came home. I look for it.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 19, 2023 4:42 pm

From the way Mencken praised Catholicism, we learn, or are reminded, that our religion is, to borrow his term, a poetic one and that we must be careful that in our attempts to teach more clearly, we don’t lose the poetry. We learn that poetry — or mystery — draws and holds people in a way that formal statements of doctrine don’t.

We do better by inviting people into a mystery than by trying to argue them into a conclusion or by presenting the Faith as a practical way to improve their lives.

Pretty much my view of Christianity, and not just Catholicism. The poetry of the King James’ Bible and the clear humility and communicative sacredness of the Book of Common Prayer Anglican Liturgies is something I came across in my only vague acquaintance with the Church of England in my youth. Music and song too is integral to the whole. Never forgotten and always loved by this agnostic. The numinous can shine through in all forms of prayer and even sermonising if the prayerful are humble and the sermoniser is honest and conveys something of the mystery of what he or she calls God. I attended alone an Anglican Evensong in Lincoln Cathedral in May last year. Numinous.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
April 19, 2023 4:42 pm

Knuckles lift your game. 20 seconds for that when special ed and mutley pull one thing or another out of their collective arse day in day out. Come on man you’re smarter than both of them when you’re asleep. In other news no doubt you’ll be pleased the midget cheating houso ranga has been retained. Hope he replaces Joe Burns in the failure stakes.

Hey leave Joe alone. 23 tests (and still counting), over a thousand test runs, 4 hundreds with an average of 36. He’s doing his best!

Lysander
Lysander
April 19, 2023 4:51 pm

So… it’s been pointed out, today, that the poll which showed significant support for the Voice only polled over 100 people and was commissioned by the Yes campaign…

…laughable…

Dot
Dot
April 19, 2023 4:51 pm

All seemingly part of a wider programme to trash everybody’s childhood heroes and instill hopelessness in the proles as adults.

If you want a laugh, go back and watch old G1 Transformers. “Starscream copped a lot of abuse” or classic tropes like “Megatron/Galvatron destroying for 10 minutes straight” are just great.

That said, old ‘screamer and ‘Tronus were damned near helpless, even when they were enjoying huge wins, eliminated their rivals, got a (cursed) upgrade or we found out they were low key immortal.

Their banter was great.

(Stepping on Starscream’s hand after Megatron steps out of a hole in the ground first…) *You’re either a liar or stupid…*

(High pitched voice, head barely above ground level and in agony….) “I’m stupid! I’m stupid! I’m stupid!…”

Lysander
Lysander
April 19, 2023 4:55 pm

I’ll be cranking out the 8″ Dobsonian tomorrow for this (from Perth) but other Cats might be interested in how it’ll look in your part of Australia…

Darwin

Darwin will experience a partial eclipse with the moon covering 80 per cent of the sun.

The eclipse will begin at 12.17pm (ACST) and end at 3.25pm, with peak coverage at 1.52pm.

Perth

Perth will experience a partial eclipse with the moon covering 70 per cent of the sun.

The eclipse will begin at 10am (AWST) and end at 12.46pm, with peak coverage at 11.20am.

Adelaide

Adelaide will experience a partial eclipse with the moon covering 21 per cent of the sun.

The eclipse will begin at 12.23pm (ACST) and end at 2.35pm, with peak coverage at 1.30pm.

Melbourne

Melbourne will experience a partial eclipse with the moon covering 10 per cent of the sun.

The eclipse will begin at 1.15pm (AEST) and end at 3.01pm, with peak coverage at 2.09pm.

Hobart

Hobart will experience a partial eclipse with the moon covering five per cent of the sun.

The eclipse will begin at 1.24pm (AEST) and end at 2.46pm, with peak coverage at 2.06pm.

Canberra

Canberra will experience a partial eclipse with the moon covering nearly 10 per cent of the sun.

The eclipse will begin at 1.29pm (AEST) and end at 3.12pm, with peak coverage at 2.22pm.

Sydney

Sydney will experience a partial eclipse with the moon covering nearly 10 per cent of the sun.

The eclipse will begin at 1.36pm (AEST) and end at 3.18pm, with peak coverage at 2.28pm.

Brisbane

Brisbane will experience a partial eclipse with the moon covering nearly 16 per cent of the sun.

The eclipse will begin at 1.43pm (AEST) and end at 3.41pm, with peak coverage at 2.44pm.

Winston Smith
April 19, 2023 4:55 pm

from about 4.50 mark to 7.37, TFM.
Remember that I said this in the context of ‘not believing anything in the first 24/48/1 week of media exposure’.
Wait for the story to come out.
The part I like most is the ‘fighting for his life in ICU’ moving to ‘recovering at home the next day’.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 19, 2023 4:56 pm

Ralph Yarl, age 16, knocked on the wrong door in Missouri and was shot.

He went to the door at the wrong home to pick up his younger twin brother and that’s when he was shot, according to police.

CBS affiliate KCTV reports: “The correct address Yarl was attempting to go to was a block away. According to the victim’s Aunt, Faith Spoonmore, the homeowner opened his door and then opened fire on Yarl. The man, whose identity has not been released yet, allegedly took a second shot at Yarl, hitting him in the head again.”

According to KSHB TV: “Yarl was shot by a homeowner after mistakenly arriving at the wrong address

— 1100 block of Northeast 115th Street
&
instead of 1100 block of Northeast 115th Terrace.”

Some context.

“Be the smartest Black Man alive

– Go to a Friend’s House to pick himup
– Notice the Cars in the driveway are competely different
than my friend’s cars
– Huh that’s strange
– Notice the Garage that is normally at the Front of the
House is now at the Side of the House
– Huh that wasn’t like that yesterday
– Notice there are No Tresspassing Signs everywhere
– Huh those weren’t here before
– Notice all the lights in the House are out
– Huh well I guess I had better wlak in
– “BANG”
– Expletive Follows

Tom
Tom
April 19, 2023 4:57 pm

Gradually the scientism of the CO2 loonies is being challenged. Baby steps, but keep them coming.

The reason the belief in climate change persists is that it has become the primary religious substitute for our newly minted millenial athiests.

Such beliefs are impervious to reason because they are based on deeply held religious beliefs, the same religious beliefs as the Aztecs, for example, who ritually murdered children to satisfy their animist gods — remarkably similar to modern millenials, for whom child murder (abortion) is a sacrament.

A reversion to actual empirical science instead of the scientism 0f climate change can’t be achieved if you’re a disciple of the millenial climate church.

All we can do is marvel at the human need for religion. If there isn’t a religion available that meets the need of millenials for meaning, they will simply invent a new one.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 19, 2023 4:57 pm
bespoke
bespoke
April 19, 2023 4:58 pm
Winston Smith
April 19, 2023 4:58 pm

Ed case:

Thorpie is on tranquillisers, like 75% of people over 40.
Or antibiotics.

Another rectally acquired statistic, Junior?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 19, 2023 5:02 pm

Did Bob even believe in God?

More to the point, did God believe in Bob!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 19, 2023 5:03 pm

Duk made a mention on aluminium above. This information is worthy of consideration.

1:31:35

————-

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Dr. Christopher Exley, PhD, FRSB (AKA “Mr. Aluminum”), chemist and expert in the field of aluminum, discusses his incredible discoveries on the devastating health effects of exposure to worlds’ most abundant metal, and how academia is trying to shut his research down.
#ChrisExley #MrAluminum #AgeOfAluminum #NoAluminumNoAlzheimers

POSTED: November 28, 2022

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DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 19, 2023 5:09 pm

Far enough Doc.

How would you address the problem with fundamental science?

I wouldn’t. It’s bigger than I am.

What I’d like to do is buy a large cruise ship, automate it so it could be controlled remotely, christen it
The C Ark and then fill it up with 1. Educationalists, 2 . University staff and students who believe there is a climate crisis, and all the HR folk 3. All the parasitic/political class who believed in or propagated the covid hysteria, and 4. Journalists.

Then I’d sail it towards Antarctica and when it was well away, torpedo it.

It might take a whole flotilla to get every one of the parasites on board, so I might need a lot of torpedoes.

This would cure a lot of problems, not just the buggering up of Science, but it would certainly help there too.

rosie
rosie
April 19, 2023 5:11 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 19, 2023 5:14 pm

Then I’d sail it towards Antarctica and when it was well away, torpedo it.

Land them on Heard island instead. They can take turns throwing each other into its volcano to appease the weather gods.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 19, 2023 5:15 pm

‘fighting for his life in ICU’ moving to ‘recovering at home the next day’

Thanks, and yes, I suspect more will come out.
If not then the kids was near-dead unlucky to have picked hat particular house.

The demand for racially motivated crimes (of one type only) massively outstrips demand.

cohenite
April 19, 2023 5:16 pm

The reason the belief in climate change persists is that it has become the primary religious substitute for our newly minted millenial athiests.

That explains the useful idiots; along with the usual leftist dose of egoism: ie I’m better than you because I’m saving the planet.

The real drivers however are communism which makes no bones about using alarmism to kill capitalism and Western democracy; and the money being made from the renewables by the spivs and grifters.

Throw in a few Z grade scientists who get thrust into the limelight and you have the motley crew promulgating this madness.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 19, 2023 5:16 pm

and 4. Journalists.

I’d spare Tom and aref. And possibly the bloke who writes the climate stuff for the Australian.

rosie
rosie
April 19, 2023 5:17 pm

Is there any evidence that this boy had ever been to pick up up his brothers from this address before?

The man, whose identity has not been released yet,

yes he has

Bar Beach Swimmer
April 19, 2023 5:18 pm

BoN & cohenite, Hunter Water has a survey up (mostly) about global warming, if you want to contribute your opinions,

calli
calli
April 19, 2023 5:18 pm

children of older fathers

How old? The article doesn’t say. Didn’t someone ask?

Winston Smith
April 19, 2023 5:20 pm

sancho:

We might just have to accept that there is a small minority of trigger-happy, iodine hoarding Truthers and Preppers out there.
Or maybe he was reading on the electric interwebs about standing (and falling if necessary).

An alternative might be that there are people who are frightened by lawless, out of control blacks who are beating, stealing and killing white people for no discernible reason beyond the victims race.
And those frightened people have little representation at law so the know they have to defend themselves and do so as soon as they see threatening behaviour.

rosie
rosie
April 19, 2023 5:22 pm
Lysander
Lysander
April 19, 2023 5:22 pm

A parish priest who is a good mate of mine and of the great George, and lectures in anthropology, captured the climate crazies in one single sentence. He said they are the people of primitivism.

Though, he went onto explain (as I will too lol)…

Ancient man knew there were bigger forces at play than him so, in order to try and placate these forces, in most cultures a “special spot” of some significance was found (i.e. hilltop, ravine etc..). Ancient man would go to these places and offer up burnt goods that he’d usually consume himself. Instead, by burning them, he thought the nice smells going up to the heavens would be pleasing to those above.

This carried on for a very long time until they realised that there were ‘special people’ who had interesting insights into the universe and life who could do it for them. So Ancient Man (becoming more modern) would take these gifts/sacrifices to the special man in a special place to do it for him. Obviously, the man is an ancient “priest” and the place is an ancient “church.” He also tells me (and I will try not to get too catechetical) that, in Christianity, you don’t need sin offerings as One has already been made for all…

Climate loonies are the same = sacrifice for our “sins” to some ethereal greater power (not to mention their zealous Church-burning, foodbarn destroying efforts…)…

Rant out. 😛

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 19, 2023 5:24 pm

BBS – I don’t want my water to be cut off…

Seriously the massive inertia on this scam is so financially enormous that nothing is going to stop it. Anyone who dissents too noticeably is going to be ground into dust. God will teach the elites humility eventually, but it’s gonna be a while before the lesson sinks in.

rickw
rickw
April 19, 2023 5:24 pm

As for ‘revving engines’ is firing at the car a proportionate response?
It seems the evidence is the fatal bullet did not come from head on, which makes it a trifle awkward for the shooter.

I’m not the one jumping to conclusions.

As an aside. My observation is that people who live in isolated areas tend towards “disproportionate response” in the event of being confronted with any sort of aggressive behaviour. This includes my mum.

Lysander
Lysander
April 19, 2023 5:26 pm

I forgot to mention that, like climate crazies, all of these ancient practices were sheer superstition and nothing was based in reason or science. Nor would you dare question the dogma of the day.

(I know some militant atheists will claim Christianity is the same as that but it’s obviously a bit more grey than they’d admit)

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 19, 2023 5:26 pm

There is real difficulty commenting on racial matters in the US (and UK) from Australia without an extended and widespread lived experience in both countries.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 19, 2023 5:27 pm

The ABC has been accused of censoring coverage of Lidia Thorpe’s foul-mouthed outburst outside a Melbourne strip club….

ABC TV did briefly mention the strip club tirade during its Afternoon Briefing program on Tuesday but coverage appeared to be lacking on its digital platforms.

The public broadcaster is facing scrutiny for its ‘failed bias’ for not reporting one of the biggest stories in politics this week.

In a post shared to Twitter on Tuesday, One Nation leader Pauline Hanson accused the ABC of ‘protecting’ Ms Thorpe by not reporting on the incident.

‘Why does the ABC website remain silent on Lidia Thorpe’s strip club incident?,’ Ms Hanson wrote.

‘Lidia Thorpe is a Senator caught using racially charged, sexually explicit, abusive language outside a strip club, so how can the national broadcaster fail to report this on their website?

‘The ABC has reported on similar incidents involving other politicians, but not Thorpe. Is she being protected?

‘This kind of biased failure is exactly why I have proposed that the taxpayer-funded ABC be required to act in a fair and balanced manner.

‘The ABC should explain why they have failed to hold Thorpe to account. If they can’t, then we should cut their funding, let them stand on their own two feet and see if the people are still interested in their biased reporting!’

Ms Hanson has also called for Ms Thorpe to be investigated by police over her behaviour and vile speech.

She said she believes no one, including Ms Thorpe, is above the law and urged Victoria Police and the Australian Human Rights Commission to look into whether action should be taken against her.

Sky News Australia host Chris Kenny labelled ABC’s lack of coverage of a significant story regarding a federal senator as ‘astonishing’.

‘Lots of Australians won’t even know about it… if you only get your news from the ABC, the national taxpayer-funded broadcasting corporation that’s supposed to be comprehensive and unbiased,’ Mr Kenny said.

‘If you relied on them you would not know about this episode, they simply haven’t covered it, not on the TV news, not on their radio news, not online they’ve censored it from the public domain.

‘They covered the story when she claimed to be the victim but they haven’t covered her latest foul-mouthed abusive display that got her a lifetime ban from the strip club.’

The ABC’s flagship online platform, abc.net.au/news, still has no reports regarding Ms Thorpe’s behaviour.

Daily Mail Australia contacted the ABC for comment.

The latest article published by the national broadcaster about Ms Thorpe appeared last month when she was knocked to the ground by police after trying to interrupt an anti-trans rights rally.

More at the Daily Mail

Winston Smith
April 19, 2023 5:27 pm

Flyinduk:

(heres a quick test – only people with Aspergers will admit to it – they dont mind doing so – they don’t ‘get’ human emotions very well and so don’t care what other people think about it)

The link didn’t show.
Or was the quote the test, you cheeky bugger?

calli
calli
April 19, 2023 5:29 pm

Thanks rosie. It looks like 45 is the magic number. Interesting about the mother’s age and the lowered rate.

Fascinating stuff.

rickw
rickw
April 19, 2023 5:30 pm

I’ve been in touch with the owner of the rare “General” made in WA lathe.

He’s going to send details and photos to Tony of lathes.co.uk so he can update his massive machinetool archive.

Cool!

rosie
rosie
April 19, 2023 5:35 pm

My mid west and southern US friends are very wary of entering black neighbourhoods, in short, they won’t.
I remember asking why I couldn’t take a shortest route somewhere, and they told me why, they said I could if I really wanted, it was daytime, seemed harmless but I wouldn’t do it at night.
One of them wouldn’t take me to see the home where she grew up close to the Mississippi, as it was now an exclusively black neighbourhood.
And I noticed any interaction with African American people in a store was super extra polite, it was rather awkward to watch.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 19, 2023 5:35 pm

The ALPBC has raised News by omission than artform. Kim Jong Il would be proud. Still Australia’s most trusted News source. Apparently.

JC
JC
April 19, 2023 5:36 pm

H B Bear says:
April 19, 2023 at 5:26 pm
There is real difficulty commenting on racial matters in the US (and UK) from Australia without an extended and widespread lived experience in both countries.

Roger, if you’re an old guy and a young black is scurrying around your front door, it’s perfectly legitimate to at least feel apprehensive and for a very good reason. Blacks are responsible for a disproportionate number of heinous crimes. We don’t know the type of burb in which it happened. The old guy was obviously frightened and didn’t want to take any chances. This is what happens when a minority of the population commit most of the crimes. Shit happens.

cohenite
April 19, 2023 5:39 pm

BoN & cohenite, Hunter Water has a survey up (mostly) about global warming, if you want to contribute your opinions,

Had a look at their site: couldn’t find the survey. Do you have a link?

Winston Smith
April 19, 2023 5:40 pm

Zatara:
I like the furore about the golliwogs, and while the official line is that the Home secretary – pictured – had nothing to do with it, there seems to be problem in the article:

Following previous reporting Essex Police said it was “categorically not true” that home secretary Suella Braverman had contacted the force about its handling of the matter.
The BBC understands her private office contacted Essex Police through, what it refers to, as an official channel.

So it looks to me like she didn’t complain ‘officially’, she complained unofficially in her position of Home Secretary.

Vicki
Vicki
April 19, 2023 5:42 pm

Well – there’s a “turn-up.” After months of “cancellation”, I finally got a letter today in the Oz.

Do the Oz staff read Catallaxy Files?

Barry
Barry
April 19, 2023 5:42 pm

So the sin of carbon emission replaces that of nocturnal emission?

Sounds legit!

Roger
Roger
April 19, 2023 5:43 pm

There is real difficulty commenting on racial matters in the US (and UK) from Australia without an extended and widespread lived experience in both countries.

And vice versa, as a reading yesterday of a chapter on Australia in a book on how geography shapes contemporary nations by a leading American journalist demonstrated to me. His writing was engaging, but several of his opinions on race relations were debatable and some of his stated facts were wrong. I decided not to purchase the book on that basis – what else could he be wrong about?

Even the best journalists are generalists; caveat lector.

Winston Smith
April 19, 2023 5:43 pm

Calli:

Innocent golliwogs having a quiet evening at the pub, swooped upon and detained by police because they’re black.
I call that a hate crime.

“To find out who rules you, see who you cannot laugh at.”
“This is the Left – rubbing our noses in diversity”

rosie
rosie
April 19, 2023 5:43 pm

Can’t easily find stat’s but childhood vaccination rates in Australia have increased from about 88% in 1999 to 92% odd percent now.
On the other hand

It is estimated that 1 in 100 people in Australia have Autism. In 2018 there were 205,200 Australians with Autism, a 25.1% increase from the 164,000 in 2015 (Source: ABS SDAC 2018– Autism in Australia). This means that if you have Autism you are not alone.

That’s seems like a significant lag if you are going to blame childhood vaccination for autism (which incidentally seems to have a genetic component)
And why 4 times as many boys than girls if it’s being caused by vaccinations?

Lysander
Lysander
April 19, 2023 5:44 pm
Bar Beach Swimmer
April 19, 2023 5:44 pm
Vicki
Vicki
April 19, 2023 5:45 pm

Anyone who dissents too noticeably is going to be ground into dust. God will teach the elites humility eventually, but it’s gonna be a while before the lesson sinks in.

BoN – Damn it! Lets dissent – & be damned!

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 19, 2023 5:45 pm

My boss did an MBA in Philadelphia. He described entering liquor stores through a 2 stage steel cage like you would see on an aviary here. Parts of Moss Wood just outside Manchester brought down the steel roller shutters around 4pm. A few places here are just approaching this.

Lysander
Lysander
April 19, 2023 5:46 pm

Well done Vicki!!! Upticks headed your way 😛

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 19, 2023 5:48 pm

H B Bearsays:
April 19, 2023 at 5:35 pm
The ALPBC has raised News by omission than artform. Kim Jong Il would be proud. Still Australia’s most trusted News source. Apparently.

Lets try google
https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/ask-ahpra-dr-kerryn-phelps-doesnt-know-why-regulator-silenced-doctors-on-vaccine-injuries/news-story/a731a655120649f913c8170bfbf1bb96
Story from around 20th of December 2022- multiple hits on a number of news platforms..

Let me check their ABCcess…

Its actually quite sinister looking.
Last appearance – using the ABC search function was 2nd of November 2022, with about 13 appearances (usually on the drum) during 2021-2022
No mention at all of her (and her partners) vaccination injuries.

Then nothing.
Shes gone from speed dial to unpersoned.

If only Ita knew!

Roger
Roger
April 19, 2023 5:48 pm

Roger, if you’re an old guy and a young black is scurrying around your front door…

I’m not Bear…I wear pants for starters and generally a stylish flat cap rather than a boater.

Winston Smith
April 19, 2023 5:48 pm

rickw:
April 19, 2023 at 1:29 pm

Another one.
This time it was fatal.
No suggestion of burglary or other criminal intent.
Give it a week for the truth to percolate to the surface. Maybe it happened exactly as reported, maybe it didn’t happen as reported.

The point I was making.

Vicki
Vicki
April 19, 2023 5:50 pm

That’s seems like a significant lag if you are going to blame childhood vaccination for autism (which incidentally seems to have a genetic component)
And why 4 times as many boys than girls if it’s being caused by vaccinations?

Good point, rosie. I have no idea. Robert Kennedy Jnr seems to be convinced there is a link. I think maybe his own child began his research into this issue.

JC
JC
April 19, 2023 5:51 pm

Yea, Philly had strange liquor laws when I was there and don’t know if they’ve changed. It used to be that liquor stores were owned by the state government. Perhaps not Philly as I can’t recall, but it was the case in various states.

Vicki
Vicki
April 19, 2023 5:51 pm

Thanks Lysander. I had no idea it was SO galling to be cancelled! Foolish, I know.

JC
JC
April 19, 2023 5:52 pm

Whoops

Penn not just Philly.

Bar Beach Swimmer
April 19, 2023 5:52 pm

Bear,
see Katanning. Not allowed in the bottle shop at all. All purchases are completed at the front door.

JC
JC
April 19, 2023 5:54 pm

Sorry Roger
————————-

FMD , still the case according to this

Pennsylvania is an alcoholic beverage control state. Spirits are to be sold only in the state owned Fine Wine & Good Spirits stores, which also sell wine, but not beer.

Bar Beach Swimmer
April 19, 2023 5:55 pm

bespokesays:
April 19, 2023 at 5:53 pm

derision works like nothing else.

cohenite
April 19, 2023 5:55 pm

Thanks BBS. I just responded by saying HW should keep my water bills as low as possible.

Roger
Roger
April 19, 2023 5:56 pm

Sorry Roger

No worries!

Lysander
Lysander
April 19, 2023 5:58 pm

Thanks BBS – I also did both surveys and made sure there was no green crap in it. My final comment, which I hope gets published:

Dear HW, the Romans sorted out water scarcity 2,000 years ago, get it together and don’t think you can tax us like them for the Climate Gods.

Lysander
Lysander
April 19, 2023 5:59 pm

(I also said I identify as a man on Mondays so obviously I’ll get greater weighting than you and Cohenite lol :P)

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 19, 2023 6:03 pm

He described entering liquor stores through a 2 stage steel cage like you would see on an aviary here

Being installed in D-Town as we speak. They already do exactly this further down the track.

Dot
Dot
April 19, 2023 6:04 pm

Australian banks are odd. Been at mine for 17 years, now they want me to verify my identity.

This just doesn’t make sense.

132andBush
132andBush
April 19, 2023 6:04 pm

The reason the belief in climate change persists is that it has become the primary religious substitute for our newly minted millenial athiests.

Agree, Tom.
Also a very hefty chunk of crony capitalism pushing for the last cent of taxpayer money.

Lysander
Lysander
April 19, 2023 6:04 pm

And, with enough “rantious” material posted today, I’m off to get the old telescope out and tidy it up for tomorrow…

For WA Cats, this is your last total solar eclipse until 2046, and if you miss that one you’ll have to wait until the following one in 2286.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 19, 2023 6:05 pm

This is perfect.

Ex-NT leader Michael Gunner promoted to top job at Andrew Forrest’s green energy powerhouse Fortescue Future Industries (Sky News, 19 Apr)

Andrew “Twiggy” Forrest has promoted former Northern Territory chief minister Michael Gunner to lead his Fortescue Future Industries’ Australia West operations as he makes a play for control of the $35 billion Sun Cable solar project.

What better way to progress the stupidest project on the planet but to assign it to the disastrously unsuccessful leader of a mendicant territory who knows nothing about technology or science?

Roger
Roger
April 19, 2023 6:06 pm

Being installed in D-Town as we speak.

Prompted by the stabbing death of a young shop attendant recently, I presume?

Winston Smith
April 19, 2023 6:08 pm

Thefrolickingmoll:

In other horrible creatures new, one of the chaps here onsite is a little miserable after attempting to tickle a redback.
Nothing morphine and icepacks cant help with though.

They don’t have the antivenene onsite, or they wouldn’t allow its use?
Not all that effective for the immediate problem, but apparently quite good at suppressing the long term neurotoxins.
Check with Flyinduk.

Zatara
Zatara
April 19, 2023 6:08 pm

Winston

Interestingly, the article states “Their investigation into the dolls came after a member of the public reported being racially distressed on 24 February.”

Yet: “Five officers seized several of the offensive dolls on 4 April as part of an investigation into an allegation of hate crime.”

Which begs the question: Why did it take them 40 days or so to act on that ‘racial distress’ report? What channels had this gone through before action was taken to halt this supposed heinous crime?

Bar Beach Swimmer
April 19, 2023 6:10 pm

Lysander says:
April 19, 2023 at 5:58 pm

Apart from the global warming rubbish, I also had a go at the reference to male/female & other question, saying that won’t in any way keep costs low.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 19, 2023 6:11 pm

Andrew “Twiggy” Forrest has promoted former Northern Territory chief minister Michael Gunner to lead his Fortescue Future Industries’ Australia West operations as he makes a play for control of the $35 billion Sun Cable solar project

Gunner has reached the top of the political rung. As they go up the greasy pole, knifing their colleagues as they go, they continually network to ‘see what else is out there’. The higher they go up, the farther the network nets get cast.

Finally, after sitting at the top of the little table (i.e., Parliament) the real cash gets made from a do-nothing sinecure figurehead role in a company that makes its money from a business he or she knows nothing about, but ‘helps’ because ‘profile’.

Exhibit A: Every Prime Minister, Foreign Minister, Trade Minister, State and Territory Premier and Chief Commissioner of Po-Leece that hasn’t been caught and subsequently jailed.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 19, 2023 6:12 pm

The appearance of ex politicians anywhere within a company has always been a strong SELL signal.

calli
calli
April 19, 2023 6:12 pm

GollywogGate was clearly workshopped and found to be a winner in the Posturing and Preening category of Virtue Signalling.

Police need to be seen to be “Doing Something” when it comes to crime. Any crime will do. Provided it’s the right type of crime.

calli
calli
April 19, 2023 6:13 pm

Did I leave out any Capital Letters in that Comment?

I don’t think so.

Roger
Roger
April 19, 2023 6:14 pm

Did someone mention Burisma?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 19, 2023 6:16 pm

Winston Smithsays:
April 19, 2023 at 6:08 pm

Been through it with RFDS docs.
Happy for pain relief, compression bandage, ice pack and monitor for 8 hrs or so.
about 70 deaths from redback bites since records began, so its very painful, but not generally life threatening.
Lady doc was quite helpful and unconcerned.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 19, 2023 6:17 pm

Being installed in D-Town as we speak.

Prompted by the stabbing death of a young shop attendant recently, I presume?

Accelerated rather than prompted, Roger. It was already going down that path. Retailers are working out that WHS and insurance premiums are biting, and biting hard as a result of this agry pisswreck killing the bottlo bloke.

As an aside, you can’t give the 18-20 year old kids starter jobs in that line of work either (as I started). All those young punters at the drive-through magically disappeared – replaced by 30+ blokes of solid build and poor disposition.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 19, 2023 6:17 pm

*angry*

Angry pisswreck. As if there were any other kind.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 19, 2023 6:17 pm

Did Bob even believe in God?

The real question today is, does God believe in Bob?

JC
JC
April 19, 2023 6:18 pm

Anyone know why the turtlehead keeps back and forthing with monikers. Weird shit.

Roger
Roger
April 19, 2023 6:19 pm

Thanks, KD.

rickw
rickw
April 19, 2023 6:19 pm

Australian banks are odd. Been at mine for 17 years, now they want me to verify my identity.

This just doesn’t make sense.

Recently had the same experience, similar duration of banking. Really pissed me off.

“So now you want a photograph of me holding my license to add to the information you’re going to lose in the inevitable data breach?!”

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 19, 2023 6:21 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 19, 2023 6:24 pm

Australian banks are odd. Been at mine for 17 years, now they want me to verify my identity.

Had the same experience at mine, a week ago.

Dot
Dot
April 19, 2023 6:24 pm

“So now you want a photograph of me holding my license to add to the information you’re going to lose in the inevitable data breach?!”

I have an original copy of my birth certificate, my passport and my licence.

Together, these are gold, but you don’t get these together or individually. To give them to an incompetent bank would be a waste.

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