Open Thread – Tues 18 April 2023


The Incredulity of Saint Thomas, Caravaggio, 1601

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Ed Case
Ed Case
April 20, 2023 9:12 am

Anyway, here’s a story about Maxine Fensom.
Maxine owns the shithole that Thorpie got a lifetime ban from.
She’s also been a Green preferencing Independent political candidate.

rosie
rosie
April 20, 2023 9:15 am

Robert Malone is a moon unit

Not the man who invented mRna, was robbed of his Nobel prize and massive stream of royalties with the Ayers Rock sized chip on his shoulder?

Frank
Frank
April 20, 2023 9:15 am

Uncanny how much Jack Teixeira looks like an eighties era Winona Ryder.

m0nty
m0nty
April 20, 2023 9:16 am

You read it in a textbook and never once asked “but how could they have possibly known this?”

You read it in a textbook, couldn’t understand it because you are a dunderhead and concluded it must be wrong.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 20, 2023 9:22 am

Speaking of the CCP, ASIO has warned the government that “hostile foreign powers” are testing Australia’s security clearance system by targeting possibly disloyal personnel inside government agencies.

Inquiring minds might like to ask how they identify their targets?

Thusly.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 20, 2023 9:23 am

m0nty=fa just looked in the mirror?

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
April 20, 2023 9:24 am

According to press rumours, Dan Andrews is looking for a new challenge.

Probably the reason why he was in China. He wanted to go full despot and asked the CCP for a million or so minions to rule over in exchange for ‘Belt and Road’ initiatives in Victoria for eternity. He though his CV from his last 3 years would suffice. From my understanding Monty and Head Case were references.

JC
JC
April 20, 2023 9:24 am

How do we know Fox settled for the sum reported?

CNN is reporting it but why is it true?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 20, 2023 9:29 am

Have I missed something?
I am wondering why ladies would be celebrating another lady’s birthday in a gentlemen’s club?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 20, 2023 9:32 am

Yeah, the cover story for The Black Death has changed over recent years.

Justinian the first in the line.

The plague arrived in Constantinople in 542 CE, almost a year after the disease first made its appearance in the outer provinces of the empire. The outbreak continued to sweep throughout the Mediterranean world for another 225 years, finally disappearing in 750 CE

225 years of mouldy argot?

Yeah, nah,yeah, nah.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 20, 2023 9:34 am

I have calculated that the B-25 only generated 2.76% to 3.21% of the destructive energy of the 767.

Hmmm.
100% minus 2.76% = 97.3%

We can safely discount that theory as disinfo They Want You To Believe.

MatrixTransform
April 20, 2023 9:36 am

a lot of carry-on about racism and historic slavery these days, but human trafficking in high places

nothing has changed much in 250 years

by the Late Georgian period “slaves” had started to become very unfashionable
while the trans-atlantic”slave” trade was diminishing for many reasons
they still needed forced labour
so they invented an whole new class by simply re-branding them as “convicts”

the American Revolutionary War interrupted the transport of ‘convicts’ to America

conveniently, a new joint with many development prospects had just become available
we call it Australia

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 20, 2023 9:37 am

225 years of mouldy argot?
Yeah, nah,yeah, nah.

Another Sheeple.
You have no idea of the hidden power of Big Rye.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 20, 2023 9:41 am

I am wondering why ladies would be celebrating another lady’s birthday in a gentlemen’s club?

There’s only one answer.

Flamerlezzos.

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2023 9:41 am

Thusly.

A good place to begin, no doubt.

But my mind must be more devious than yours, Dr. F.

Ideologically motivated traitors are fairly rare, hence the resort to money & sex as inducements. Another means of manipulation is a threat to the family of a target.

Winston Smith
April 20, 2023 9:42 am

Roger:

I imagine it’s over a fairly minor revision that could, however, have major implications.
The coronation liturgy in outline has been in existence for over 1000 years, with the present form in use since the 1600s with only minor variations.

I pointed that out a couple of weeks ago about a minor revision having major implications – in this case changing just one letter.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 20, 2023 9:45 am

rosie says:
April 20, 2023 at 8:39 am

Was having a look at the failed Yorta Yorta native title claim and various advocates whose refrain always seems to be you have to do something, usually involving other people’s money.
Not much get an education, get a job and get on with it.
The claim’s failure was in part due to this book.
interesting book by Edward Curr

rosie,

thanks for that – have downloaded epub & PDF Version of Book from this site

https://archive.org/details/cu31924026093827/page/n13/mode/2up

The Australian race : its origin, languages, customs, place of landing in Australia and the routes by which it spread itself over the continent

by
Curr, Edward Micklethwaite, 1820-1889

Dot
Dot
April 20, 2023 9:46 am

Not the man who invented mRna, was robbed of his Nobel prize and massive stream of royalties with the Ayers Rock sized chip on his shoulder?

I don’t think he has a chip on his shoulder. He’s been right about most of this. He should know better with regards to experimental design. No one is perfect, even Einstein had the cosmological constant.

No one has even considered the lack of discipline and autism in a serious academic sense in recent years. It’s behaviourism so it’s not popular and will never get past the ethics committee in current year.

The popularisation of “don’t hit children” is also associated with the observed increase in ADHD and autism. I am not advocating cruelty but constant even daily conditioning from a young age during brain development and when conscious choices are made surely makes a difference. I don’t know if there exists data for it but I am willing to bet that it correlates to lower levels of incarceration as well.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 20, 2023 9:50 am

Speaking of bombers, a shameless plug for my new book Bombers North, now out from Avonmore. Also on Amazon, and in bookshops.

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2023 9:51 am

I pointed that out a couple of weeks ago about a minor revision having major implications – in this case changing just one letter.

I thought Charles had gone cool on that notion.

Perhaps it’s popped up again.

Figures
Figures
April 20, 2023 9:52 am

duncanm:

The Spanish:

So, according to eyewitnesses, lots of indigenous got skin rashes but none of them died from it. And from that, you extrapolate that millions of indigenous died from their very first every contact with a “virus” that caused smallpox.

A little bit of a reach I would have thought.

132andbush

Was it chemtrails?

Well no. It was people drinking mercury and arsenic, people living in sewers, people eating crushed glass, people having themselves flogged, people shutting other people in their houses and starving them or burning them.

Everything they did in response to their fear of the disease led to mass deaths and injuries. Doctors blamed those deaths on the plague and this in turn made people more scared and hence, willing to take even more of the deadly treatments.

This may sound familiar because it is just like remdesivir, ventilators and vaccines for covid.

All totalled up it equated to a massive number of deaths until the fear started to subside and the response, in turn, subsided.

But the story turned to rats and fleas and that’s what everybody believes.

Everybody – Cassie included – believes that a far more sensible explanation than people dying as a result of things that actually kill people is that for a couple of decades in the 14th century rats and fleas all got together and decided en masse to murder millions of people.

These animals had never caused such damage before and never would again. But for those few decades rats and fleas decided to **** **** up.

A highly plausible story. Almost as plausible as robust cause of death data for indigenous Americans in the 17th century.

I mean, I too believed this nonsense for my childhood.

Words fail me that I could have been this gullible.

calli
calli
April 20, 2023 9:59 am

Interesting idea Dot about corporal punishment.*

Watching the rampant disobedience of many children, including my own grandchildren, had me wondering. Sure, advances in medicine and prevention have halted many…many childhood diseases and subsequent deaths. However, I wonder if these wilful children** would ever have survived the perils of even a hundred years ago, when horses and carts were commonplace on the streets for instance, and outdoors was the only place to be.

* no, I don’t mean beatings
** Hilaire Belloc and Nurse comes to mind

Dot
Dot
April 20, 2023 10:02 am

Well no. It was people drinking mercury and arsenic, people living in sewers, people eating crushed glass, people having themselves flogged, people shutting other people in their houses and starving them or burning them.

You’re not going to live long eating mercury. Please show evidence of anyone living in sewers (gee, what is in the sewers?) and who eats crushed glass?

The idea people 500 years ago or more could not understand these were bad ideas is laughable. Sewers didn’t exist until the 1800s in a true sense.

The bubonic plague is observable. The symptoms, the bacteria, the effects of antibacterial drugs. They are all observable with mechanisms that have good repeatability and are consistent with other observations of biology, medical science and chemistry. They’re as observable and well understood as Dr Livingstone shooting a Zebra with a .45-70 rifle over and over again and then starting the process again when the subject dies.

A lot of the observations made when the plague hit Europe in earlier times are the same as what we observe now as the plague.

What’s the alternative? “Everyone else is wrong and so were all of their observations!”?

You would need to disprove all of those observations and conclusions, not just state a handwaving argument for an alternative with a very limited data set of observations or logical assumptions.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 20, 2023 10:03 am

A good place to begin, no doubt.
But my mind must be more devious than yours, Dr. F.

Roger: Based on experience of PRC commercial intelligence gathering.

A few years ago I had dealings with a Chinese GOC geotechnical service company trying to break into the Australian oil and gas market. They had an office of about 20 and had been on the ground for 18 months when I met them. They were still trying to complete a list of Australian explorers and their CEO’s/senior staff to work out an approach strategy – their latest triumph was discovering that secretive Santos was based in Adelaide.

I suggested that they join APPEA (the industry body) and get themselves on the industry contact list. The flash of excitement at this massive windfall intel-triumph was palpable.

Bureaucratic inertia, the language barrier, and puzzling incompetence is often interpreted as fiendish inscrutability.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 20, 2023 10:03 am

Rogersays:
April 20, 2023 at 9:41 am
Thusly.

A good place to begin, no doubt.

But my mind must be more devious than yours, Dr. F.

Ideologically motivated traitors are fairly rare, hence the resort to money & sex as inducements. Another means of manipulation is a threat to the family of a target.

The classics are the acronym MICE: Money, Ideology, Conscience, EGO.

Don’t write off Ego too quickly.

Jorge
Jorge
April 20, 2023 10:03 am

I imagine it’s over a fairly minor revision that could, however, have major implications.

Making it in effect no longer a Christian ritual or one Christians derived from the Old Testament ? References to God but not to Christ or the Trinity ?

Why not get Meghan and the choir of ululating African women involved ?

calli
calli
April 20, 2023 10:04 am

Impulse control doesn’t come naturally. For some it never “arrives” at all (witness the mob thefts and beatings). It has to be taught. You learn it either through discipline or the hard way – pain and hardship.

The latter is slowly being eroded by courts and government handouts, keeping the sufferers in a never ending downward spiral of helplessness.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 20, 2023 10:06 am

White House Slams Brazil After Lula Accuses US Of ‘Encouraging’ War In Ukraine

The White House has accused Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva of repeating Russian and Chinese propaganda. While visiting China, Lula said that the US should stop “encouraging” the war in Ukraine and seek peace instead.

Speaking with reporters on Tuesday, the White House’s National Security Council’s Spokesperson, John Kirby, lashed out at Lula. “Brazil has substantively and rhetorically approached this issue by suggesting that the United States and Europe are somehow not interested in peace or that we share responsibility for the war,” Kirby said. “In this case, Brazil is parroting Russian and Chinese propaganda without at all looking at the facts.”

From the Comments

– I hate to admit it when commies like Xi and Lula are right, but they are right.

We have a gaggle of unhinged neocons lying to the world and everybody knows it.

– Poking the bear & dragon at the same time is a clear sign of insanity.

Time to clean house before they get us all killed.

– Peace is Russian and Chinese propaganda, lol, wth

~30 years of spreading “Freedom and Democracy” has:

> killed millions

> impoverished 10’s/100’s of millions

> wrecked numerous nations

>destabilized the global finance and political systems.

….and brought no one “Freedom and Democracy”.

– The White House is literally a care facility.

FJB goes nowhere, and no heads of state come to see him.

When was the last time he had a vistor?

The whole world is shifting, making deals, reorganizing and the Crash Test Dummy sits in the White House issuing executive orders allowing mentally ill men in women’s sports.

– Ironically, the CIA and Smartmatic already overthrew the legitimately elected government of Brazil in last year’s “Election”.

And now our newly installed puppet turns on us.

30 years of spreading “Freedom and Democracy…

Ukrainian democracy works hard in Ukraine. Zelensky’s democratic achievements to date:
– No more freedom of religion.
– No more freedom of the press
– No more freedom of expression.
– No more Ukrainian men
– No more Ukrainian economy
…etc:
– No more Ukraine

If I were Russia, I would not penalize Zelensky, but rather give him a prize. ‘The most irritating dwarf on the Eurasian continent since dwarfs started snorting coke’

Somebody give this guy a medal!

And that’s just the first 8 Comments

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 20, 2023 10:06 am

Speaking of bombers, a shameless plug for my new book Bombers North,

My copy has just about reached the top of my “To – read” pile…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2023 10:06 am

225 years of mouldy argot?

Add three millennia…

The first recorded outbreak was the sixth-century A.D. Justinian Plague, but researchers have now found evidence that a virulent form of the bacterium was circulating at least as early as 1800 B.C.

The team sequenced the genomes of Y. pestis recovered from two Bronze Age skeletons—one male and one female—buried together in southwestern Russia.

Bronze Age Plague (2019)

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 20, 2023 10:08 am

Who needs another RBA board when you’ve got SOcrates? Remember subscribe to help pay the electricity costs.

Cassie of Sydney
April 20, 2023 10:08 am

Does “Figures” really believe the shit he writes?

Frank
Frank
April 20, 2023 10:09 am

You read it in a textbook, couldn’t understand it because you are a dunderhead and concluded it must be wrong.

But enough of the history my abortive economics degree, let me lecture on the documented strengths of my textbook comprehension.

Dot
Dot
April 20, 2023 10:09 am

Watching the rampant disobedience of many children, including my own grandchildren, had me wondering. Sure, advances in medicine and prevention have halted many…many childhood diseases and subsequent deaths. However, I wonder if these wilful children** would ever have survived the perils of even a hundred years ago, when horses and carts were commonplace on the streets for instance, and outdoors was the only place to be.

There are some halfway decent theories that we have capitally punished most of our worst criminal traits out of the gene pool. I’m not sold on the idea of genetic predisposition though. That’s fine until you see the fairly recent atrocities (in our long natural history) committed by the most civilised people in the world. If it was true Lt Calley, Hitler and King Leopold etc should not have existed.

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2023 10:10 am

Making it in effect no longer a Christian ritual or one Christians derived from the Old Testament ? References to God but not to Christ or the Trinity ?

I wouldn’t think so.

If Charles were a private individual I think he’d have converted to eastern Orthodoxy by now, and that’s hardly theologically liberal on Christology or the Trinity.

Honestly, I’d be more suspcious of the AoC in this matter than the monarch.

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2023 10:13 am

Bureaucratic inertia, the language barrier, and puzzling incompetence is often interpreted as fiendish inscrutability.

Perhaps why Xi ordered that CCP agents be embedded in every Chinese enterprise?

Real Deal
Real Deal
April 20, 2023 10:14 am

All buildings were demo-ed on 9/11.
Yeah, planes hit the Twin Towers [but not Building 7], but that’s not what brought them down.

Building 7 was the headquarters of the American Gypsum Association.

Dot
Dot
April 20, 2023 10:15 am

Ukrainian democracy works hard in Ukraine. Zelensky’s democratic achievements to date:
– No more freedom of religion.
– No more freedom of the press
– No more freedom of expression.
– No more Ukrainian men
– No more Ukrainian economy
…etc:
– No more Ukraine

They had two and half years of democracy and peace under Zelensky until Putin invaded.

duncanm
duncanm
April 20, 2023 10:16 am

There really isn’t any point engaging Figures.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2730237/

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2023 10:18 am

Perhaps it’s popped up again.

Like this?

Dilemma for the modernist king: Charles is at odds with Church of England over what role other faiths will play in his ‘diverse’ Coronation (8 Apr)

Church sources say the monarch has been told that his desire for a ‘diverse’ ceremony, including participation by non-Christians, risks clashing with centuries- old canon law, which bars Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and other faith leaders from reading out prayers during the service.

He clearly wants to add a whole gumbo of religious stuff to the service. Wouldn’t be surprising to have him include a druid doing something with a golden sickle and branch of foliage.

Dot
Dot
April 20, 2023 10:19 am

Anyone see Rachel McAdams’ late boycott of P&G and their brands of Gillette, Braun and Venus?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 20, 2023 10:20 am

What does Scroteates say about the plague??

Why not use the greatest windows 8 based oracle in existence?

rosie
rosie
April 20, 2023 10:20 am

Dot perhaps you should read the 6000 word essay* written by his wife outlining the injustices suffered. Perhaps if his employer at the time had patented his part in the discovery of MRna he’d just be another ‘Big Pharma’.
*might be linked at the Atlantic article about the great man. Easy enough to find.

Crossie
Crossie
April 20, 2023 10:22 am

It’s cloudy and rains intermittently here so I don’t think I will be seeing the eclipse today.

Dot
Dot
April 20, 2023 10:23 am

He got shafted rosie, there’s no need to be snide about that because you don’t like the way people use him as a magic wand trope to boost any argument they have.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 20, 2023 10:24 am

Perhaps why Xi ordered that CCP agents be embedded in every Chinese enterprise?

That practice pre-dated Xi.

Crossie
Crossie
April 20, 2023 10:26 am

Dot says:
April 20, 2023 at 10:19 am
Anyone see Rachel McAdams’ late boycott of P&G and their brands of Gillette, Braun and Venus?

What has she done? Not shaved her underarms?

bespoke
bespoke
April 20, 2023 10:26 am

I wonder if these wilful children** would ever have survived the perils of even a hundred years ago, when horses and carts were commonplace on the streets for instance, and outdoors was the only place to be.

Just raising your voice or grabbing the kid is considered abuse.

Toxic maternalism.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 20, 2023 10:27 am

Peculiar, it appears blood is affected by race??

I didnt think this was a thing outside plain blood types.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/apr/20/more-black-blood-donors-urgently-needed-say-influential-britons
Sickle cell disease disproportionally affects people from black African or black Caribbean backgrounds, and ethnically matched blood provides the best treatment.

More than 55% of black people in the UK have the Ro blood subtype needed by sickle cell patients compared with 2% of the general population.

Crossie
Crossie
April 20, 2023 10:29 am

If Charles were a private individual I think he’d have converted to eastern Orthodoxy by now, and that’s hardly theologically liberal on Christology or the Trinity.

I remember reading some years ago that Charles had an affinity with Islam. No idea how true that was.

calli
calli
April 20, 2023 10:31 am

He clearly wants to add a whole gumbo of religious stuff to the service.

King Saul.

It isn’t as if he doesn’t know. It’s just that he doesn’t believe.

Dot
Dot
April 20, 2023 10:31 am

Yo! So-crates? Haven’t you got an AI database of all of human disease back to when the aliens put lizard DNA in bigfoot!

Gnarly, dude!

Yes. Now Martin, you are the greatest microbiologist, natural historian and cryptozoologist & alien hunter of all time. Your database covers every single pathogen in existence. Can you predict any pandemics in our future?………………………………….

……………………………Our model showed in 2018 there would be a reversal from Dec 2019 to March 2020. We predicted a decline in GDP, cash rates and real rates through to early 2022 after a soft rebound, then higher prices as So-crates predicted a war between democratic hero Vladimir Putin and the pig dog American Empire misled by “internationalists”.

For this fact, the CIA wanted to see our code and any collection of meta materials and Gigantopithecus bones I own. Of course, being a successful businessman oppressed by the pig dog banking cartel of “internationalists”, I own less assets than a Moroccan football star married to an older European actress…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

eric hinton
eric hinton
April 20, 2023 10:31 am

Top Endersays:
April 20, 2023 at 9:50 am
Speaking of bombers,

and stuff.

When I was on Sweers Island, I heard a yarn that the last ‘battle’ between whitefellas and blackfellas was between the RAAF and Bentinck Islanders in 1943 when the RAAF went ashore to set up a radar station and an Islander was killed in the ensuing skirmish. Any truth to it?

duncanm
duncanm
April 20, 2023 10:32 am

Ed Casesays:
April 20, 2023 at 7:23 am
All buildings were demo-ed on 9/11.
Yeah, planes hit the Twin Towers [but not Building 7], but that’s not what brought them down.
If a plane could collapse a building, that Liberator Bomber that hit the 79th floor of the Empire State Building woulda.
But it didn’t.

Buildings:
Empire State: 381m tall on a 130 x 57m base, full gridded steel core.
WTC: 400m tall on a ~65 x 65m base, framed tube structure.

Planes:
Empty weight / Max Takeoff Weight
Liberator Bomber: 16,556 kg / 29,484 kg
American Airlines Flight 11 , United Airlines Flight 175 = Boeing 767-200: 82,400 / 179,200 kg

but yeh – cos I can’t demolish a four-up with a paper plane, it is a big conspiracy.

Special case Ed and Figures are two sides of the same coin. They’re here to make sure there’s plenty of nutter quotes here to disparage the cat in future.

duncanm
duncanm
April 20, 2023 10:33 am

.. oh and the empire state has stone exterior to reduce penetration. WTC had some lightweight cladding.

Dot
Dot
April 20, 2023 10:35 am

If jet fuel can’t melt steel beams, this proves that metal framing which is damaged and heated at hundreds of degrees for hours under an incredible, unbalanced load cannot be stressed to the point of failure.

People actually believe this.

rosie
rosie
April 20, 2023 10:35 am

Snide? For pointing out that he is not likely to be 100% objective in his criticism of MRna technology for which he also claims sole responsibility?

The organisation that failed to patent the discovery also missed out on what would now be a significant royalty stream.
Looks like you’ve gone from he’s objective and correct to he was shafted* pretty quickly by the way.
*not really accurate is it?

cohenite
April 20, 2023 10:37 am

Good on crotchless for being a 9.11 conspiracist.

Here’s one detailed rebuttal:

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-ae911truths-wtc7-explosive-demolition-hypothesis.1727/

Figures
Figures
April 20, 2023 10:37 am

Dot

You’re not going to live long eating mercury.

Depends how much you take. But I don’t get your point. People did in fact die during the Black Death. Their deaths were blamed on plague.

Indeed, mercury has been used as a medicine for a long time. 3000 years. People just imbibed more of it when they were really scared.

Please show evidence of anyone living in sewers (gee, what is in the sewers?) and who eats crushed glass?

Here you go. And remember, this was written by someone who is as petrified of germs as you are. He freely admits the treatments killed people en masse but no matter, the brainwashing is too strong. He’s positive that germs are the number one threat.
https://www.worldhistory.org/article/1540/medieval-cures-for-the-black-death/

The idea people 500 years ago or more could not understand these were bad ideas is laughable.

The last three years have proven just how incredibly dumb people are when faced with disease. Well not just three years. For centuries. But even more so the last three.

I’m quite certain that if the government told people that cutting one’s own head off was a vaccine, then Bunnings would run out of saws.

rosie
rosie
April 20, 2023 10:37 am

Suspect the very gay male beautician here is thinking about going girl.
Hair and make-up is all it takes, apparently.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 20, 2023 10:38 am

Figgers.

Well no. It was people drinking mercury and arsenic, people living in sewers, people eating crushed glass, people having themselves flogged, people shutting other people in their houses and starving them or burning them.

And also Figgers.

Words fail me that I could have been this gullible.

Quite so, Figgers.
Quite so.

MatrixTransform
April 20, 2023 10:38 am

Snide? For pointing out that he is not likely to be 100% objective in his criticism of MRna technology for which he also claims sole responsibility?

challenge:

count the logical fallacies

rosie
rosie
April 20, 2023 10:39 am

I’m quite certain that if the government told people that cutting one’s own head off was a vaccine, then Bunnings would run out of saws.

Or maybe you are wrong, about most things

Dot
Dot
April 20, 2023 10:40 am

He was shafted with regard to a patent. I think he has a good claim he invented the technology.

Looks like you’ve gone from he’s objective and correct to he was shafted*

???

I haven’t changed my opinion. He’s been right most of the time, no one is perfect and objectively has a legitimate claim to saying he invented mRNA technology.

Jorge
Jorge
April 20, 2023 10:42 am

I read a comment elsewhere asking if Charles is a Freemason ‘like his father.’

Defender of faith (of a kind).

Cassie of Sydney
April 20, 2023 10:42 am

I watched Andrew Bolt talk to Alan Jones on my Youtube feed last night. Normally I don’t watch Blot but because he was speaking to Alan Jones, I thought I would and I wasn’t disappointed. Jones, booted from Sky almost two years ago because he spoke basic truths about Covid lockdowns et al, and who has since been vindicated about everything, discussed with Blot the woeful state of the Liberal Party, federally and in each state, and as always he was on the mark. He didn’t mince words. Alan Jones was always an effective spruiker for the Liberal party when he was on Radio 2GB here in Sydney and the Liberal Party certainly needs such a person now. Yet when Jones was targeted back in 2020 for his accurate words about that obscene ex-PM of NZ, Morrison and other Liberals joined in the pile on of Jones, Radio 2GB buckled and then forced Jones into retirement. Way to go Liberals, side with your ideological enemies in order to destroy your few friends.

Dot
Dot
April 20, 2023 10:44 am

Indeed, mercury has been used as a medicine for a long time. 3000 years. People just imbibed more of it when they were really scared.

What’s the possible medical use of mercury?

Here you go. And remember, this was written by someone who is as petrified of germs as you are. He freely admits the treatments killed people en masse but no matter, the brainwashing is too strong. He’s positive that germs are the number one threat.

They sat next to sewers to get rid of “bad air”. How does this wrong headed idea disprove germs exist?

The last three years have proven just how incredibly dumb people are when faced with disease. Well not just three years. For centuries. But even more so the last three.

People complied because the cops beat them up, watched up as night with helicopters and had massive fines. They had their employment held hostage to being vaccinated with rushed vaccines.

You haven’t proven anything you fanatical imbecile.

lotocoti
lotocoti
April 20, 2023 10:49 am

I am wondering why ladies would be celebrating another lady’s birthday in a gentlemen’s club?

I believe they just happened to be passing by.
Which isn’t a euphemism for freelancing on a professional’s turf.
Probably.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 20, 2023 10:50 am

No Eric, haven’t heard that one. In the WWII base/centres being set up across the Top End I’ve researched, generally the Aboriginals had either a) cleared out, b) were cleared out south to safer areas, or c) sometimes were around in small numbers.

They often sought tucker from the radar stations/minimal airstrips etc and were given in in exchange for a bit of manual labour and/or hunting.

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2023 10:53 am

Like this?

That’s possible.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2023 10:53 am

Maybe Charles wants to include pagan Wiccan and Viking elements to the Coronation too…

The Return of Paganism (via Instapundit)

And what to do when a newspaper headline tells you about a “trans woman left sobbing in JFK Airport after TSA agent hit her testicles”? Appealing to reason hardly helps, as J.K. Rowling and others learned the hard way when trying to ask simple questions such as how one might define sex if not according to the chromosomes rooted in literally every cell of our bodies. Instead, anyone wishing to find his way through the thicket of American public discourse these days should start by embracing one simple and terrifying idea: The barbarians are at the gates.

I mean this almost literally. Everywhere you turn these days, pagans are afoot, busily hacking away at the Christian and Jewish foundations of American life and replacing them with a cosmology that would have been absolutely coherent to followers of, say, Voltumna, the Etruscan earth god, or to those who worshipped the Celt tribal protector Toutatis.

If you think the above paragraph is a little bit overblown, consider the numbers. In 1990, scholars from Trinity College set out to learn just how many of their fellow Americans practiced some form of pagan religion. The numbers were unsurprisingly small: about 8,000, or enough to pack your average Journey reunion concert. But the researchers asked again in 2008, and this time, 340,000 Americans said yes to paganism. A decade later, the Pew survey posed the same question, and, if it is to believed, there are now about 1.5 million Americans professing an array of pagan persuasions, from Wicca to the Viking lore, making paganism one of the nation’s fastest-growing persuasions. So fast-growing, in fact, that my colleague Maggie Phillips recently reported in Tablet magazine about the thriving, and officially recognized, pagan faith groups within the U.S. Army. “What’s important now,” one of its leaders, Sergeant Drake Sholar, told Phillips, “is showing religious respect and understanding across the board as Norse Pagans, or Heathens, return to a distinguishable religious practice.”

RTWT, it is superb. I’ve included the Instapundit link in case there’s a paywall – following through via Insta let me read it all.

Figures
Figures
April 20, 2023 10:54 am

rosie

Or maybe you are wrong, about most things

Oh I’m so sorry Rosie. You got the vaccine. And you did so after you did extreme due diligence on the studies that were used to prove definitively how safe, and effective they were – including at preventing transmission.

You checked and double checked.

At no point did you think “yep. The government says so and I want to go on holidays, so good enough for me!”

Heaven forfend you would be so foolish right?

Can I ask Rosie? Given you did your due diligence and would have asked this question – how did the pharma companies deal with “crusader bias”? They (by all accounts) used a saline as the control but that meant that vaccine recipients were often effectively unblinded (ie if they experienced a non-trivial reaction). Given study participants were presumably extremely pro-vax, this is obviously devastating for the validity for the study and I couldn’t see how pharma companies even thought about this, let alone fixed it.

But you obviously checked and you know they did indeed fix it. So what did pharma companies do to address this bias?

FMD Rosie. You got what the government told you was an “effective vaccine” – and you paid absolutely no attention to how this moniker was constructed. It could have been an injection of feces and you still would have lined up for it.

And now you want to pretend to have been ultra-discerning.

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2023 10:56 am

That practice pre-dated Xi.

But he entrenched it.

‘Modern enterprise system with Chinese characteristics.’

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2023 11:01 am

Way to go Liberals, side with your ideological enemies in order to destroy your few friends.

Cassie, you’re assuming Liberals have – to borrow your term – ideological beliefs.

I’ve seen little evidence of that in recent times.

Political expediency is their lodestar.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 20, 2023 11:01 am

duncanm at 10:32.
The third leg of that equation is the momentum from groundspeed of the aircraft.
The B-25 had a cruise speed of 200 kts and was probably loitering at under 150 kts. The 9/11 aircraft were travelling at over 500 kts.

rickw
rickw
April 20, 2023 11:04 am

Bureaucratic inertia, the language barrier, and puzzling incompetence is often interpreted as fiendish inscrutability.

Quite so.

Figures
Figures
April 20, 2023 11:04 am

What’s the possible medical use of mercury?

When did I ever suggest it had a legitimate use?

Standard Dot nonsense. When proven to be wrong, you deflect and pretend you asked a completely different question.

They sat next to sewers to get rid of “bad air”. How does this wrong headed idea disprove germs exist?

See above.

People complied because the cops beat them up, watched up as night with helicopters and had massive fines. They had their employment held hostage to being vaccinated with rushed vaccines.

That was true for maybe 10-20 per cent of the population. At least 50 per cent supported every action of the governments and the rest didn’t mind it enough to complain about/resist it. The recent elections reinforce this.

I have no idea if the proportions of evil/gutless/good people were roughly the same in the 14th century but I don’t see why it wouldn’t be.

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2023 11:05 am

I remember reading some years ago that Charles had an affinity with Islam. No idea how true that was.

I think he’s probably a Traditionalist.

In a nutshell, they believe in perennial metaphysical truths which find expression in all the world’s so called great religions. Although that belief doesn’t preclude an attachment to one particular religion, in his case, Christianity.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 20, 2023 11:05 am

You haven’t proven anything you fanatical imbecile.

Im envisaging a person stamping their foot and getting werry, werry cross and going to scweam and scweam until they are sthick if you dont let them continue to be a mong.

Also- sitting through “white ribbon” training session.

Inflicting injustice on men today is necessary to stop past injustices… or something.

mem
mem
April 20, 2023 11:06 am

Some one up thread spoke of sheople cutting own heads off if they were told it recommended to defeat Covid. Well this couple won’t be getting the bug https://www.breitbart.com/pre-viral/2023/04/19/married-couple-behead-themselves-with-guillotine-in-india-in-apparent-sacrifice/

areff
areff
April 20, 2023 11:08 am

Wally Golly and his little mate Nolly Golly.

https://ibb.co/Mkz0jKk

Wally is roughly 90 years old, belonged to my father and was passed to me in my crib. Nolly is just a youngster, purchased literally under the counter at Vic Market some 30 years ago, when the first stirrings of anti-golly activism prompted calls for bans

I’m worried, though. When I pass away, who will care for Wally and Nolly? My daughter-in-law reacted with horror when Wally recently accompanied me to the US, an intended gift to my grandchild. So, spurned and rejected, he has now crossed the Pacific four times and currently resides on my desk.

If any Cats would be prepared to take on the responsibility, should I step in front of a bus, I’ll write that guardianship into my will.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 20, 2023 11:09 am

Rogersays:

April 20, 2023 at 11:05 am

I remember reading some years ago that Charles had an affinity with Islam. No idea how true that was.

I think he’s probably a Traditionalist.

So Shia, not Sunni?

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 20, 2023 11:10 am

I remember reading some years ago that Charles had an affinity with Islam.
Affinity means there is a family connection.
And there is.
Late Queen was a direct descendant of … The Prophet.

But it’s okay.
King C is gonna do the Rightie by Christian Brits just like Queen did for 70 long, long years.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 20, 2023 11:10 am

Prototype Corolla Cross Hydrogen Concept Highlights Toyota’s Multi-Path Approach To Zero

Hydrogen combustion prototype illustrates another possible alternative path to zero emissions
Accelerated development through motorsport activity leads to encouraging progress
Room for 5 passengers and their luggage highlights daily practicality
Winter testing to begin shortly in northern Japan

In a world of dramatically varying customer needs and market environments, Toyota’s approach to carbon neutrality is to develop and offer multiple technologies to support customers on their individual journeys to zero emissions.

This multi-technology approach – which includes battery electric and fuel cell electric and plug-in hybrid electric and hybrid electric – offers the opportunity, for Toyota’s customers in more than 170 sales countries and regions worldwide, to reduce their carbon footprint today – irrespective of their environments and their daily needs.

Toyota also firmly believes it is too early to focus on one single zero-emission solution and is, therefore, concurrently developing hydrogen fuel cell and hydrogen combustion technology alongside battery electric technology.

Hydrogen Combustion Development Through Motorsport

This year Toyota, through the Rookie Racing team, has participated in all Super Taikyu endurance races in Japan with a hydrogen combustion GR Corolla H2.

During this time Toyota President Akio Toyoda, under his master-driver pseudonym ‘Morizo’, has taken the wheel in every race to evaluate and contribute to development.

Outside Japan, in August this year, a Toyota hydrogen-engine vehicle drove on European public roads for the first time when the GR Yaris H2 was put through its paces in a demonstration run at the WRC in Ypres, Belgium.

This regular and intense motorsports activity has helped to accelerate development activity and technical progress.

For instance, over the course of one Super Taikyu season Toyota has been able to increase hydrogen combustion power by 24% and torque by 33%, achieving the breakthrough of dynamic performance on par with a conventional petrol engine.

Furthermore, range has been extended by around 30% and refuelling time reduced from approximately five minutes to one and a half minutes.

In addition to hydrogen usage, Toyota is working together with many stakeholders in the areas of green hydrogen production and transportation with the demanding environment of motorsports as a testbed, creating a wide range of friendships beyond the boundaries of the industry to help realise a carbon neutral society.

Hydrogen Combustion Corolla Cross H2 Concept

This technological progress gave Toyota engineers the confidence to create a prototype road car – the Corolla Cross H2 Concept.

By equipping the 1.6l 3-cylinder turbo engine from the GR Corolla with high-pressure hydrogen direct injection engine technology from motorsport activity, and adding the hydrogen tank packaging know-how from Mirai, Toyota was able to create a Corolla Cross H2 hydrogen prototype that can transport 5 passengers and their luggage. Real-world evaluation is currently being carried out alongside ongoing digital development, with the vehicle soon to begin winter testing in northern Japan.

Key merits of hydrogen combustion include the ability to leverage existing internal combustion engine technologies, quick refuelling times, and the clear reduction in the use and necessity for limited supply elements like lithium and nickel.

By adapting existing technologies and further leveraging existing investments, hydrogen combustion could lead to widespread, accessible carbon-reduction solutions faster.

Today, Toyota is around 40% along the path to commercialisation of products such as the Corolla Cross H2 Concept. It is not yet possible to say if the technology will reach maturity for road cars, but there is without doubt a clear opportunity in motorsports

rickw
rickw
April 20, 2023 11:11 am

The third leg of that equation is the momentum from groundspeed of the aircraft.

Kinetic energy. 1/2mv2

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2023 11:16 am

So Shia, not Sunni?

Sufi.

lotocoti
lotocoti
April 20, 2023 11:21 am

Feline Free Fire Zone cancelled.

A representative argued that children, along with adults, would not be able to differentiate between “a feral, stray or frightened domesticated cat.”

If they run, they’re Charlie feral.
What else do the kiddies need to know?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 20, 2023 11:22 am

That practice pre-dated Xi.

But he entrenched it.

‘Modern enterprise system with Chinese characteristics.’

That’s actually Deng Xiaoping Thought. China opened up under Deng and as it did do the secret centrality of the CCP followed Chinese enterprise around the world – scraping knowledge and influence wherever it could.

Xi brought Chinese exceptionalism and the guiding hand of the CCP out of the shadows.

bespoke
bespoke
April 20, 2023 11:22 am

All cats are feral.

C.L.
C.L.
April 20, 2023 11:24 am

British police stop car, remove kids’ golliwog stickers…

This is real:

https://twitter.com/MartynH18/status/1648359936995340289

rickw
rickw
April 20, 2023 11:30 am

During this time Toyota President Akio Toyoda, under his master-driver pseudonym ‘Morizo’, has taken the wheel in every race to evaluate and contribute to development.

That’s how you avoid thinking having a tranny represent your product is a great idea. Reality.

May also be why Toyota has back away from pure ev’s. Morizo: The range on this thing is shit!

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2023 11:31 am

Xi brought Chinese exceptionalism and the guiding hand of the CCP out of the shadows.

Indeed.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
April 20, 2023 11:36 am

That’s how you avoid thinking having a tranny represent your product is a great idea. Reality.

May also be why Toyota has back away from pure ev’s. Morizo: The range on this thing is shit!

I’m waiting for maxda to revive their hydrogen rotary car and bring out an RX-9

Has to be hydrogen only though, no hybrid crap…

rickw
rickw
April 20, 2023 11:37 am

British police stop car, remove kids’ golliwog stickers…

This is real:

Would love to see a couple of .45 slugs coming out through the glass.

They’re not going to stop until things like this start happening.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 20, 2023 11:37 am

Speaking about Ferals – African American Ferals Strike Again

DC_Draino
@DC_Draino
Chicago Mayor: Why would Wal-Mart leave our city?!

Chicago Wal-Marts:

From the Comments

– How dare you abandon our looters like that?

– She’s still blaming whitey for their problems.

– ANYONE Arrested At All!!??

Sad to say it’s always us destroying our own Community’s like a wild animal that bust out of the zoo. Now what when you can’t eat or feed your families

But why did she say they let white people Make them do that??

lotocoti
lotocoti
April 20, 2023 11:39 am

Browsing through the comments, some of the Saliva Ukrazi types really are quite dotty.

bespoke
bespoke
April 20, 2023 11:39 am

British police stop car, remove kids’ golliwog stickers…

The cop took them off because he knew thay had no grounds to charge.

Not yet enyway.

rickw
rickw
April 20, 2023 11:42 am

The cop took them off because he knew thay had no grounds to charge.

So charge him with theft and plaster their cars with Golliwog stickers!

Some rather excellent stickers being stuck on Bud Light cartons in the US.

rickw
rickw
April 20, 2023 11:45 am

Browsing through the comments, some of the Saliva Ukrazi types really are quite dotty.

They should stop commenting and get to the front lines ASAP. General Muntgumery will lead them!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 20, 2023 11:48 am

Biden’s Susceptibility to Blackmail has Unleashed Domestic and International Chaos

It has often been speculated what would happen to this nation if a decadently compromised president who willingly succumbed to extortion from both domestic and foreign interests were elected. That possibility is no longer in the realm of speculation.

For the past 27 months the United States has experienced this devastating eventuality, as no president in this nation’s history has been as susceptible to domestic and international blackmail as Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr.

Nonetheless, in their unbridled hubris, the Democrats’ puppet masters turned to Joe Biden whom they could portray as a “moderate” in order to defeat Donald Trump.

While Trump was in office this same cabal vociferously proclaimed that “A president openly susceptible to blackmail cannot serve.” In a stunning example of hypocrisy, they chose the most susceptible president in American history. However, they failed to understand that the Communist Chinese and Marxist penchant for using political blackmail to achieve their objectives would determine the fate of the country during his presidency.

The hubris of the American ruling class and venality on the part of Joe Biden has placed the United States in the position of being humiliated and extorted by the Chinese Communists, who have bribed his son, family and ultimately him. Once Biden became president, the Chinese expected reciprocity with the unspoken reality of their exposing the depth of his duplicitous and potentially treasonous activity hanging over his head.

At the beginning of the Biden presidency in a March 2021 summit meeting, Chinese diplomats, in an unimaginable breech of diplomatic protocol, publicly lectured and deliberately humiliated the Biden Administration.

Biden’s response was to claim the meeting went well and the Chinese delegation really didn’t mean what they said. He essentially telegraphed to Beijing that he understood they owned him.

China shamelessly continues their 3-year refusal to explain why and how their virology lab in Wuhan was the epicenter of the Covid-19 virus. They know that Biden and his administration will not seriously press them on the issue or hold them responsible for the pandemic.

China unapologetically and defiantly flew a surveillance balloon across the country to spy on key military bases knowing full well there would be no repercussions. Not only were there no repercussions, Biden, in defending the Chinese, unabashedly lied to the American people about what they were doing.

Mexico, France, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, all once solid American allies are openly criticizing and moving away from the United States as they and a growing list of countries are cozying up to China recognizing not only China’s growing global influence but that Xi Jinping, not Joe Biden, effectively dictates United States foreign policy.

China, in alliance with Russia, India, and multiple African and South American countries, is determined to eliminate the U.S. Dollar as the global reserve currency. A potentially devastating blow to the American people and the U.S. economy effectively relegating the country to second-tier global status. Biden has given China the green light by dutifully choosing to ignore China’s tactics and the long-term consequences to America.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2023 11:50 am

What’s the possible medical use of mercury?

Syphilis.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 20, 2023 11:51 am

rickwsays:

April 20, 2023 at 11:11 am

The third leg of that equation is the momentum from groundspeed of the aircraft.

Kinetic energy. 1/2mv2

Yeah.
So 170 tonnes at 500 kts has way more destructive capacity than 15 tonnes at 150 kts?
My rough back of envelope in my head says that is a multiple of 100, give or take.

Dot
Dot
April 20, 2023 11:52 am

“four years training” for a fast jet pilot seems like BS.

At that point, you just use drones.

I’m still shocked people are still signing in online as “vaxxed and masked”.

Give it up folks.

Dot
Dot
April 20, 2023 11:53 am

What’s the possible medical use of mercury?

Syphilis.

Look. If you can’t get antibiotics, just admit defeat.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 20, 2023 11:54 am

Biden drives even Israel into China’s arms

I think it was David Goldman who predicted this would happen a few weeks ago, but the impact of it now is shocking: Israel, America’s top ally in the Middle East, is now moving towards the China orbit.

According to Breitbart News’s Frances Martel:

Israeli Foreign Minister Eli Cohen asked China to “influence” Iran to cease developing its illegal nuclear weapons program, inviting Beijing to play a bigger role in the Middle East as relations with the United States under leftist President Joe Biden have deteriorated.

Cohen (pictured) made the request in a conversation on Monday with Chinese Foreign Minister Qin Gang, a day before held a massive parade to mark its annual “Army Day” in which it once again threatened to destroy Israel. President Ebrahim Raisi specifically vowed “the destruction of Haifa and Tel Aviv” and debuted what appeared to be new military hardware, a drone model not yet seen in public.

Yet it all makes a certain amount of sense and so shouldn’t be.

As the U.S. gets bogged down in Ukraine, and Russia aligns with China as both states win friends and influence around the world, Israel is pretty on its own now. The magnificent Abraham accords of President Trump’s era, making peace for Israel and Saudi Arabia and a string of other nations after it, has been eclipsed by China’s “peacemaking” between Saudi Arabia and Iran, freeing up the mullah-ruled state to focus its malevolence on tiny Israel alone.

For Israel, its best option may be to move under China’s wing so China can stop Iran

The only thing one can conclude from all this Biden incompetence is that prescient statement of President Obama’s, which foresaw what a Biden presidency would accomplish: “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f*** things up.”

If Biden can’t even hold onto Israel, what does that say about our influence in the world and the state of our foreign policy?

MatrixTransform
April 20, 2023 11:57 am

momentum

what’s the vector victor?

calli
calli
April 20, 2023 11:57 am

Dot says:
April 20, 2023 at 11:53 am
What’s the possible medical use of mercury?

Syphilis.
Look. If you can’t get antibiotics, just admit defeat.

I think the reference was to pre-antibiotic treatments.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 20, 2023 11:58 am

The lies about hydroxychloroquine were the worst of the COVID era

There has been little accountability for the lies of the COVID pandemic.

Clearly the disease originated at the Wuhan Virology Lab. The mRNA vaccines were not nearly as effective as touted (if they worked at all), and possibly unsafe.

Another glaring dishonesty, exposed by doctors like Meryl Nass, relates to the use of hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID.

Whether or not hydroxychloroquine is effective against COVID, government authorities thwarted doctors from honestly attempting to find out, and interfered with doctor-patient relationships to do so.

Agencies conspired to undermine and discredit doctors like Dr. Meryl Nass, discouraging alternative therapies possessing strong safety records while hard-selling experimental and relatively untested mRNA vaccines.

In the case of Dr. Nass, a nationwide pattern of censorship against physicians who supported hydroxychloroquine was reflected when the State of Maine Board of Licensure in Medicine suspended her medical license and referred her for a psychiatric evaluation.

The Board slandered the good doctor by claiming her provision of care constituted “an immediate jeopardy to the health and physical safety of the public” and even suggested she might be using drugs:

Dr. Nass was not doing anything extreme in her patient care: she was targeted because she spoke up forcefully against the mRNA vaccine narrative. She got in the way of efforts by politicians and pharmaceutical companies to ensure maximum jab compliance.

As a person who had taken hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) for many years for Lyme Disease, the slandering of the drug (and doctors who prescribed it) was rather stunning to me. I knew the risks of the drug were minor. Yet Dr. Anthony Fauci and others very aggressively opposed trying to save lives with this drug before mRNA vaccines were available, using illogical and extremist justifications.

Dr. Nass stood up boldly and early. At her website and in her newsletters, she has competently established that:

– studies purporting to discredit HCQ employed excessive doses and were designed by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
April 20, 2023 11:59 am

Some classic Ronnie Barker for your lunch break.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2023 12:02 pm

Look. If you can’t get antibiotics, just admit defeat.

I suspect before sulfa powder was rolled out to US Army in WW2, Dot, they had plenty of mercuric chloride solution on hand, soldiers being soldiers.

The Treatment of Syphilis by the Hypodermic Injection of the Salts of Mercury (Brit. Medical Jnl, 4 Dec, 1869)

Add a little glycerine and inject up the urethra. Yum!

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
April 20, 2023 12:04 pm

“four years training” for a fast jet pilot seems like BS.

At that point, you just use drones.

I’m still shocked people are still signing in online as “vaxxed and masked”.

Give it up folks.

Last I checked with DFR, minimum service period as a RAAF pilot is 14 years.

Once you complete initial officer training (18 months at ADFA), you begin pilot training.

Then it’s PC-21, Then Hawk-127 for initial jet training, then, finally, conversion to F18 or F35.

This takes at least 4 years to get the bare basics of understanding the aircraft systems under your belt.
Understanding of combat manoeuvres and techniques takes probably another 5 years to fully master and integrate after that.

All that said, when you can punch out 30-50 drones for the cost of one aircraft, the day’s of manned combat aircraft will be coming to a close.

We’re still equipping our military through the eyes of fighting the last war.
Not looking forward and understanding the changing technology and how it applies to war…

Dot
Dot
April 20, 2023 12:04 pm

There’s a reason we don’t use that therapy anymore.

WolfmanOz
April 20, 2023 12:05 pm

I’ve just posted this comment on C.L.’s blog re Jacinta Nampijinpa Price:

It’s a pity she’s in the wrong house, party and state/territory as I could see her as a future PM.

She might not be as polished as the turds we currently have, but she is a genuine person who is a real leader and I’d reckon the country as a whole would back her.

Given the utter low life’s we have had as politicians/leaders of this great country she would be a breath of fresh air. As for her inexperience, well given the insanity being pushed by these so-called leaders with experience, some good old common sense is what is required to get this country back on the rihg track.

Dot
Dot
April 20, 2023 12:07 pm

The imputed real cost of pilot training could amount to a good chunk of the platform itself.

calli
calli
April 20, 2023 12:09 pm

Raining down today, so no chance of seeing the partial eclipse.

So, there’s this instead.

Vicki
Vicki
April 20, 2023 12:10 pm

At no point did you think “yep. The government says so and I want to go on holidays, so good enough for me!”
Heaven forfend you would be so foolish right?

I thought a friend of mine had finally “seen the light” when she assured me a month ago that she would not have any more mRNA boosters, after discovering that a previously healthy young niece had developed myocarditis.

Imagine my surprise when last week she confessed that she was soon to have a booster shot.

Why? She and husband have booked a trip overseas. Since they were not travelling to the USA, I couldn’t understand why she had reversed her decision. But really, it is useless trying to understand reasoning which is based on impulse or known false premises.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
April 20, 2023 12:12 pm

The imputed real cost of pilot training could amount to a good chunk of the platform itself.

If my memory is right, it costs the government (taxpayer) $1.5-2 million to train a pilot to full certification.

Each F18 costs around $65 million each.
The F35 costs around $75 million.

A kamikaze drone from Iran costs around $20-50 thousand.
Even the U.S. predator drones are only worth about 1-2 million each…

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 20, 2023 12:14 pm

An amusing aspect of the NZ Blenheim air show the other day…

The RNZAF had an aerobatic team displaying their skills over the show. Featured TC-6 Texan II aircraft in the Black Falcons team – excellent performances.

The trouble is that once their pilots train on Texans, then it’s off to the transport aircraft, which is the rest of the RNZAF, as well as some helos. No transition to Hornets or similar – must be rather annoying, but of course they cannot complain.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
April 20, 2023 12:17 pm

Sorry, cost of the predator drone the U.S. uses is around $40 million each…

I reckon they could be done far cheaper though…

Probably will in a few years after Russia reverse engineers the one they recovered 🙂

Tom
Tom
April 20, 2023 12:27 pm

A useful contribution to the search for accurate data on the Russia-Ukraine air war from aviation industry website flightglobal.com:

Classified intelligence documents leaked from within the Pentagon estimate that both sides in the Ukraine-Russia war have lost a significant number of combat aircraft.

The documents – mostly intelligence briefings containing updates and analysis related to the more than year-old conflict – were revealed on social media, allegedly by a low-ranking cyber-security specialist in the Massachusetts Air National Guard.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation arrested Airman First Class Jack Teixeira on 14 April, part of its investigation into unauthorised removal, retention and transmission of classified national defence information, the US justice department says.

The documents purportedly provide new insight into the air war over Ukraine, including heavy casualties and a near-deadly incident involving a Russian Sukhoi Su-27 fighter and a UK Royal Air Force Boeing RC-135W Rivet Joint surveillance jet.

Buried in the dozens of documents covering troop strength and battlefield movements are estimates of aircraft losses for both sides.

Under the category “Total Assessed Losses”, one document estimates Russia has lost 72 fixed-wing and 82 rotary-wing aircraft. Ukraine may have fared slightly better, with the US document estimating it has suffered 60 fixed-wing and 32 rotary aircraft destroyed.

RTWT

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2023 12:29 pm

I reckon they could be done far cheaper though…

Yes, I think you might be right!

Iran’s Latest Indigenous Drone Is A Predator Lookalike (Feb 2021)

The appearance of the new drone follows longstanding Iranian claims of having captured one of the U.S.-made Predators.

That’s the problem with new stuff, once the enemy captures it they can reverse engineer it pretty easily. A lot of fun stuff is being captured by the Russians in Ukraine, like the Pommy Starstreak missiles.

(Actually I can’t see a news report that the Russians have captured a Starstreak yet, but they probably will eventually. The Iranian Predator knockoff is the Shahed 129.)

bespoke
bespoke
April 20, 2023 12:29 pm

At no point did you think “yep. The government says so and I want to go on holidays, so good enough for me!”
Heaven forfend you would be so foolish right?

Rose’s motive was to see grandkids travel was a distant second.
You are confusing her with someone else.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 20, 2023 12:34 pm

Dot

They sat next to sewers to get rid of “bad air”. How does this wrong headed idea disprove germs exist?

Did sewers exist at the time of the Black Death? Long drops or the nearest field or creek seem more likely.

sfw
sfw
April 20, 2023 12:34 pm

The problems with hydrogen as a fuel don’t relate to performance but to production, distribution and storage. People can argue about if you use more energy to get the hydrogen than you get from burning it. Distribution and storage, it’s very very volatile and reactive it attacks a lot of metals, then storage, you lose approx 1% a day, may not sound like much but it’s huge compared to all other fuels. Plus the leaking hydrogen will collect if it’s leaking from an enclosed container, say your car in your garage. Seeing as it has an enormous range of flammability it would be a substantial fire explosion hazard. Can’t see it going mainstream.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 20, 2023 12:36 pm

I know a lot of Journalists today “Are Thick as Bricks” – (Apologies TOM to your profession), but the following headline stikes me as a Bit Late to The Party

Is the US in a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine?

By Karen DeYoung
April 20, 2023

While the battle rages on the ground, international law and conflict scholars have fiercely debated on whether it constitutes a proxy war.

The short answer is: it depends on how the term is defined.

“Unfortunately for those who like their strategic concepts to be as precise as the best modern weaponry, ‘proxy wars’ lacks an agreed meaning and is used in different ways,” Lawrence Freedman, emeritus professor of war studies at King’s College London, wrote in a January essay published in Britain’s New Statesman.

“The basic idea is that you get someone else to do your fighting for you,” wrote Freedman, who argued that the concept did not apply to Ukraine.

Hal Brands, a professor at the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies, has said that is precisely what the United States and its allies are doing in Ukraine. “Russia is the target of one of the most ruthlessly effective proxy wars in modern history,” he wrote in an opinion column for Bloomberg shortly after the war began.

“The key to the strategy is to find a committed local partner – a proxy willing to do the killing and dying – and then load it up with the arms, money and intelligence needed to inflict shattering blows on a vulnerable rival,” Brands wrote. “That’s just what Washington and its allies are doing to Russia today.”

Others apply a more technical explanation, noting that US support for the Nicaraguan Contras under the Reagan administration in the 1980s – including US assistance in the creation and active supply of a nonstate force, overflying Nicaragua’s territory and covertly mining its harbours to overthrow the Sandinista government – was a classic proxy war.

The International Court of Justice found in 1986 that the US harbor-mining and other activities had breached international law.

US support for Afghan mujahideen fighters against the occupying Soviet Union during the Cold War in the 1980s is widely considered a proxy conflict, as was backing for Libyan dissidents who overthrew the government of Muammar Gaddafi during the Obama administration.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 20, 2023 12:37 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
April 20, 2023 at 11:01 am
duncanm at 10:32.
The third leg of that equation is the momentum from groundspeed of the aircraft.
The B-25 had a cruise speed of 200 kts and was probably loitering at under 150 kts. The 9/11 aircraft were travelling at over 500 kts.

Indeed. Velocity squared adds a lot to the kinetic energy equation.

C.L.
C.L.
April 20, 2023 12:38 pm

Classified intelligence documents leaked from within the Pentagon estimate that both sides in the Ukraine-Russia war have lost a significant number of combat aircraft.

I’m calling bullshit on that.
As Glenn Greenwald is pointing out, after hunting down and dobbing in the leaker, WaPo and other media are now curating CIA-approved releases that are designed to minimise the worst revelations in the leaked material. The “both sides” dodge is a golden oldie at this point.

duncanm
duncanm
April 20, 2023 12:40 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
April 20, 2023 at 11:01 am
duncanm at 10:32.
The third leg of that equation is the momentum from groundspeed of the aircraft.
The B-25 had a cruise speed of 200 kts and was probably loitering at under 150 kts. The 9/11 aircraft were travelling at over 500 kts.

good point Sancho!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2023 12:42 pm

OINO.

Coalition and Labor set for bipartisan support over major RBA shake-up as Greens slam the ‘major party stitch up’ (20 Apr)

The Opposition should all defect to the Labor Party. At least then the ABC will love them long time.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 20, 2023 12:44 pm

rickwsays:
April 20, 2023 at 11:45 am
Browsing through the comments, some of the Saliva Ukrazi types really are quite dotty.

They should stop commenting and get to the front lines ASAP. General Muntgumery will lead them!

OI. That’s Field Marshal Count Muntgumery of Malmo to you.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 20, 2023 12:48 pm

Dotsays:
April 20, 2023 at 11:53 am
What’s the possible medical use of mercury?

Syphilis.

Look. If you can’t get antibiotics, just admit defeat.

One of the sayings that Army doctors used to discourage rampant rooting by the troops was “Five minutes with Venus, three months with Mercury”.

calli
calli
April 20, 2023 12:52 pm

bespoke says:
April 20, 2023 at 12:29 pm

It’s all there on the Wayback Machine if anyone can be bothered checking.

A lot of accusations have been flying around since Day 1. It’s much more interesting and informative to see what people do rather than what they say.

Iron Cove
Iron Cove
April 20, 2023 12:53 pm

How serpents get standing in Australian courts.

Students hear from” cause lawyers and advocate judges”.Advocate judges???

Comrade, the revolution never sleeps.

Zatara
Zatara
April 20, 2023 12:53 pm

Problems with hydrogen as a fuel include:

Although liquid hydrogen (LH2) has three times the gravimetric energy density of jet fuel, it has a low volumetric density (approximately 2.4 kWh/liter compared with 10.4 kWh/liter for kerosene). This creates a huge challenge for aircraft designers because hydrogen fuel will require about four times the volume of jet fuel to carry the same onboard energy.

There are also issues regarding the molecular constitution of the fuel tank material.

Iron Cove
Iron Cove
April 20, 2023 12:56 pm

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Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 20, 2023 12:58 pm

On golliwogs.
Someone made the reasonable point yesterday that it’s hard to understand racism in the US/UK from afar.

In the UK, it’s hard to overstate the career-panic in the plod senior echelons stemming from the 1981 race riots. Sure that was 40 years ago, but the political backdraft is still as hot as ever – made worse now by the demonstrably real potential for Allen’sSnackbar behaviours in certain demographics.

The UK has a fractured and regionally variable set of cultures – and industrial-strength grievance runs strongly across the lot. It sounds incredible, but nobody in the plod is going to gamble their career prospects on everyone everywhere agreeing that a few visible stuffed toys, or the Robinson’s Golliwogs are just a bit of anachronistic fun.

The official calculus is firmly: the probability of ‘thwarted golliwog enthusiast’ unrest is far, far less than ‘Issa ninsult on my rights innit’ unrest.

Rinse and repeat with other issues.

Risk management. Common sense and official embarrassment come a Did Not Finish in an intolerant society.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2023 12:59 pm

Macquarie University is at the cutting edge of physics!

New model describes the actions that need to be taken by a person riding a swing (Phys.org, 19 Apr)

A team of physicists, mathematicians and psychologists from Jumonji University, Nagoya University and Hokkaido University, all in Japan, working with a colleague from Macquarie University, in Australia, has developed a model to describe the actions that need to be taken by a person riding a swing to optimize their ride.

In this new effort, researchers attempted to improve upon both efforts by studying real-world swingers in action in a stepwise fashion. To that end, they enlisted the assistance of 10 college students, each of whom were fitted with marking devices and then rode swings with chains of various lengths the research team had set up in their lab. As the volunteers swung, the action was captured by video cameras.

I’m not entirely sure that capturing university student swingers on camera would be SFW.

rickw
rickw
April 20, 2023 1:08 pm

The problems with hydrogen as a fuel don’t relate to performance but to production, distribution and storage.

Yep, we have enough trouble with storage and distribution of the relatively tame liquid hydrocarbons.

rosie
rosie
April 20, 2023 1:09 pm

Still completely insouciant about my lifetime exposure to modern medicine including my life saving surgery, the surgery that allowed my daughter to be born alive, antibiotics, asthma treatment and every vaccine I ever had.
Doctors surgeries don’t bother me.

rickw
rickw
April 20, 2023 1:11 pm

Although liquid hydrogen (LH2) has three times the gravimetric energy density of jet fuel, it has a low volumetric density (approximately 2.4 kWh/liter compared with 10.4 kWh/liter for kerosene). This creates a huge challenge for aircraft designers because hydrogen fuel will require about four times the volume of jet fuel to carry the same onboard energy.

If you started with a clean sheet of paper to design a synthetic aviation fuel. You would end up with something exactly like current Jet Fuel. Energy density with respect to weight and volume is awesome.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2023 1:14 pm

Someone made the reasonable point yesterday that it’s hard to understand racism in the US/UK from afar.

Not that hard.

Muslims Tell Hindu Children to Convert to Islam or they Will Not ‘Survive Long’ (19 Apr)

Hindu children in the UK have reportedly been threatened by Muslim classmates that they must convert to Islam or they will not “survive long” in school.

Research undertaken by an Anglo-America think tank has found that Hindu children in the UK have been put under pressure from Muslims to convert to Islam, with those who refuse told that they will face serious harassment and bullying in schools.

The threats mirror those behind recent sectarian riots between Hindus and Muslims in the UK, with some Islamic extremists said to have spread false stories of Hindus harassing Muslim girls on the streets of Leicester.

Such rumours eventually led to rioting in multiple UK cities, with hardcore Islamists organising patrols of UK streets as well as hostile protests outside of Hindu temples.

There’s a new description for such people: “of southern appearance”.

Long Black Beard and ‘Southern’ Appearance: German Police Euphemistically Describe Wanted Suspect of Mass Stabbing (19 Apr)

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 20, 2023 1:24 pm

Lidia Thorpe’s father, Roy Illingworth, has slammed the Victorian Senator in a piercing barb claiming she is a “very racist person”.

The shock revelations came in an exclusive interview with Sky News Australia host Andrew Bolt which will air on Foxtel from 7pm on Thursday.

Mr Illingworth said he was “disappointed” by how his controversial daughter had abandoned her English and Irish roots.

“The way I see it, the way she is and the way she’s changed over the years, she’s a very racist person,” Mr Illingworth said.

“She doesn’t acknowledge any of her white side. I’m a bit disappointed in the way she’s been carrying on lately.

“Because after all, she does have English background as well as Irish, the convict side of the English.”

More on Sky

Iron Cove
Iron Cove
April 20, 2023 1:26 pm

The wife just in from an appointment with the Doc, says she was talked out of having another Covid shot by the doc. Who looked at her sideways when she brought it up and said words to the effect of “why would you do that? there’s no need “.

rosie
rosie
April 20, 2023 1:27 pm

Not so sure about that bespoke.
I did visit my grandchildren interstate, twice in 2020 and twice again in 2021.
My primary reason for getting vaxxed was personal health reasons, at the urging of my oldest daughter who put her money where her mouth was too.
I certainly would have gotten vaxxed if the only way I could see my daughter and granddaughter was by waving a certificate around.
Travel was a distant second, though I said I would if the countries I wanted to visit made it a condition, as is their sovereign right.
I know I predicted that most restrictions would be dropped while I was away, and so they were.
I decided to dive into the Omicron wave in late 2021 despite all the hype, if for no other reason than to escape the Dan Dictactorship and I’m very glad I did, thus avoiding the mad rush.

Dot
Dot
April 20, 2023 1:32 pm

Did sewers exist at the time of the Black Death?

No, unless they were table drains or like in Rome, integrated into the streets as open canals.

(There’s a hint).

bespoke
bespoke
April 20, 2023 1:39 pm

rosiesays:
April 20, 2023 at 1:27 pm

Thanks for clearing that up. Still travel was a distinct second or third.

bespoke
bespoke
April 20, 2023 1:42 pm

Still travel was a distinct second or third.

And not the primary motivation being claimed by others.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 20, 2023 1:45 pm

I’ve just posted this comment on C.L.’s blog re Jacinta Nampijinpa Price:

It’s a pity she’s in the wrong house, party and state/territory as I could see her as a future PM.

She might not be as polished as the turds we currently have, but she is a genuine person who is a real leader and I’d reckon the country as a whole would back her.

Hell, yeah.
What’s not to like about a singin’ & dancin’ ABC presenter as Labor P.M..

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2023 1:48 pm

“The way I see it, the way she is and the way she’s changed over the years, she’s a very racist person,” Mr Illingworth said.

“She doesn’t acknowledge any of her white side.”

Gee…why would she – or anyone else – do that?

[rhetorical]

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 20, 2023 1:49 pm

Grandpa Ed Simpson

Pushing the margins with your “developing” waaaaycissssm?

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2023 1:53 pm

Muslims Tell Hindu Children to Convert to Islam or they Will Not ‘Survive Long’ (19 Apr)

Strictly speaking, Bruce, that’s a religious issue rather than a racial one.

They’re likely all of sub-continental origin.

Long Black Beard and ‘Southern’ Appearance: German Police Euphemistically Describe Wanted Suspect of Mass Stabbing

I don’t suppose they mean Bavarian.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2023 1:54 pm

Did sewers exist at the time of the Black Death?

No, unless they were table drains or like in Rome, integrated into the streets as open canals.

Castles were especially good. You could literally crap on the peasants below the walls.

Castle Toilets: A Few Words

I recall a fun Time Team episode of them excavating one of these long drops. Such is the life of an archaeologist.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 20, 2023 1:55 pm

Shot home and showed the little bloke the eclipse.
Apparently about 92% coverage here.
Fun listening to him describing what was going on .

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2023 1:55 pm

I see Jacinta Price has upset some land council.

Good.

shatterzzz
April 20, 2023 2:02 pm

Macquarie University is at the cutting edge of physics!
New model describes the actions that need to be taken by a person riding a swing (Phys.org, 19 Apr)

I take it all back! .. obviously my opinion(s) that OS students. mainly, come here to rort the permanent residence obligations is wrong .. they come for the innovative “education” opportunities not on offer elsewhere ..

shatterzzz
April 20, 2023 2:06 pm

Strictly speaking, Bruce, that’s a religious issue rather than a racial one.

When it comes to type of “issues” the ROP doesn’t quibble .. it’s their way or the extremely sad way ..!

bespoke
bespoke
April 20, 2023 2:10 pm

Fun listening to him describing what was going on .

It’s those times that make life good, mole.

shatterzzz
April 20, 2023 2:12 pm

Castles were especially good. You could literally crap on the peasants below the walls.

reminds me of yonks ago when my eldest daughter was a nipper .. trips to the beach and her insistence that the sandcastle(s) must have toilets .. LOL!

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 20, 2023 2:17 pm

A former Supreme Court judge predicts the Indigenous voice will paralyse the Australian parliament and “in many cases the approval of the advisory body will have to be obtained before a bill can be enacted”.

Nicholas Hasluck KC, who retired from the West Australian Supreme Court in 2010, describes the proposal to entrench the Indigenous Voice in the constitution as contrary to democratic ideals.

Mr Hasluck has long been well known in legal and political circles because of his judicial career and because he is the son of the late Sir Paul Hasluck, a minister in the Menzies government who later became governor general of Australia. In 2001, the Federal seat of Hasluck was created and named in honour of Sir Paul and his wife Dame Alexandra Hasluck, an author.

In his written submission to the joint select committee inquiry into the Voice, Mr Hasluck criticises one of the justifications offered for the advisory body offered by Anthony Albanese. Mr Albanese has said consulting Indigenous people about matters that affect them is good manners.

“To say, as some have said in recent months, that the Voice should be enshrined simply as a matter of ‘good manners’ is a shallow and misleading line of argument,” Mr Hasluck writes in his submission to the Voice senate inquiry.

“It confuses the matters in issue by suggesting that people who vote against the Voice lack the decency usually associated with good manners.

“An emotive plea of this kind seeks to shame people into voting for the Voice. A profound change to the structure of government by constitutional amendments should only be made in response to well reasoned debate on both sides of the question.”

Mr Hasluck says the proposal to make “a profound and essentially irreversible change to the structure of government by vesting an influential advisory privilege in a section of the community defined by race is contrary to democratic ideals reflected in the Constitution, a document underpinned by conventions referable to the rule of law and the notion that all citizens, high and low, are to be treated equally”.

“As a matter of principle, the Voice should be rejected on the grounds that our democracy is built on the foundation of all Australian citizens having equal civic rights, all being able to vote for, stand for and serve in either of the two chambers of our national parliament,” Mr Hasluck writes.

“A constitutionally enshrined body defined by race, as to which only Indigenous Australians can vote for or serve in, is inconsistent with this fundamental principle.”

Mr Hasluck said the Voice would almost certainly become a lightning rod for protracted debate about a vast array of current issues.

Oz

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 20, 2023 2:21 pm

On the white ribbon training.
The issue of violence against Aboriginal women was pre-raised by the facilitator with a rather unconvincing explanation.

Many Aboriginal ladies marry outside their own people (first nations being the term used).

I had to be polite and avoid asking does that mean Aboriginal ladies are causing men to beat them out of proportion to the rest of the population.

Or that men are pre-programmed to beat Aboriginal ladies.

But in the interests of not lengthening the 3 hour course (2nd session) more/getting sacked I allowed the obvious crap to pass.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 20, 2023 2:24 pm

The third leg of that equation is the momentum from groundspeed of the aircraft.
The B-25 had a cruise speed of 200 kts and was probably loitering at under 150 kts. The 9/11 aircraft were travelling at over 500 kts.

Has anyone tried…….

A simulator?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 20, 2023 2:25 pm

he is the son of the late Sir Paul Hasluck,

Paul Hasluck was the Minister when the policy was “assimilation”, before that pair of clowns, Whitlam and Coombes arrived on the scene.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 20, 2023 2:26 pm

Has anyone tried…….

A simulator?

Congratulations, you are now on a list.
More.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 20, 2023 2:26 pm

The B-25 had a cruise speed of 200 kts and was probably loitering at under 150 kts. The 9/11 aircraft were travelling at over 500 kts.

Surely there’s a computer game somewhere that could accurately replicate this real-life incident. We already have a skilled cohort to push the buttons.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 20, 2023 2:27 pm

rickw says:
April 20, 2023 at 1:08 pm

The problems with hydrogen as a fuel don’t relate to performance but to production, distribution and storage.

Yep, we have enough trouble with storage and distribution of the relatively tame liquid hydrocarbons.

1. Current State of Hydrogen Projects in Japan

In Japan, various pilots are being carried out to develop an international hydrogen supply chain. For example:

1. A project is underway to extract hydrogen from brown coal, of which there are large reserves in Australia, and liquefy it to transport it to Japan by sea. In December 2019, the world’s first liquefied hydrogen carrier “Suiso Frontier” was launched and will be utilised in a demonstration experiment where hydrogen produced in Australia will be transported to Japan by the end of March 2022. In Kobe, where the hydrogen will be received, a 2500m3 tank became operational in June 2020.

2. Another project is underway in Brunei to extract hydrogen (as methylcyclohexane (“MCH”)), using the organic hydride method from unused gas, and transport it to Japan. In December 2019, hydrogen produced in Brunei arrived in Japan for the first time. As such, the domestic policy agenda is to combine the surplus fossil fuels from overseas and use these to produce “blue” hydrogen – by capturing the carbon dioxide using CCUS technologies – alongside the establishment of international supply chains for Japan’s hydrogen.

3. In Japan, transportation of hydrogen in the form of (i) liquid hydrogen, (ii) MCH, and (iii) ammonia is expected. The transported hydrogen in the form of MCH is now used as fuel for thermal power plants. Currently, hydrogen, as an import, is undergoing verification testing and results of this study are expected in due course.

In anticipation of a large amount of renewable energy coming onto the grid in the coming years, attention is being focused on power to gas (“P2G”) technology, which uses electrical power (produced from renewable sources) to produce a gaseous fuel (hydrogen) and then store it. Improvement of water electrolysis technology is necessary for the commercialisation of P2G technology.

In March 2020, the world’s largest (10 MW) renewable hydrogen production facility “Fukushima Hydrogen Energy Research Field” (“FH2R”)” was opened in Namie Town, in the Fukushima Prefecture. FH2R has achieved positive results in demonstration experiments.

In addition to renewable energy, the administration of unused local resources, such as waste plastics and sewage sludge, is being considered as a low-carbon hydrogen supply source.

Transport

According to the Strategy, the goal is to have:

40,000 FCVs by 2020, 200,000 FCVs by 2025 and 800,000 FCVs by 2030;
100 fuel-cell buses by 2020 and 1200 fuel-cell buses by 2030; and
500 fuel-cell forklifts by 2020 and 10,000 fuel-cell forklifts by 2030.

In addition, Japan is developing and commercialising fuel-cell trucks and shifting passenger vessels to fuel-cell powered vehicles. At the end of the 2019 financial year, 3,757 passenger FCVs were in use in Japan.

FCV Business policy of each Japanese car manufacturer:

In terms of passenger cars, Toyota Motor Corporation (“Toyota”) started lease sales of FCVs to Japanese government departments for business and industrial use, in December 2002. After years of further technical developments, Toyota began retail sales in December 2014 and released a brand-new model FCV in December 2020.

In February 2021, Toyota announced its development of an FC module that packages a fuel-cell (FC) system into a compact module, and distribution of the FC modules starting from the spring of 2021.

These modules are expected to be applied in FC products for various uses such as in mobility, including in trucks, buses, trains, and vessels, as well as in stationary generators.

Toyota is also carrying out research and development of a hydrogen vehicle (not an FCV, which is one model of EV, but a vehicle equipped with an internal combustion engine (“ICE”) fuelled by hydrogen in place of gasoline) and participated in a 24 hour endurance race with its hydrogen vehicle in May 2021.

By contrast, in June 2018, the corporate affiliation between Nissan Motor and Renault of France froze the commercialisation of FCVs that was being jointly developed with Daimler and Ford Motor. In December 2020, Honda started lease-only sales of its FCV on the same date as Toyota but declared in June 2021 that it would discontinue the production of FCVs at the end of 2021 due to poor sales.

Honda will continue its joint development of FCVs with General Motors (GM) of the United States, but it will mainly focus on commercial cars, indicating that Honda will withdraw from the development of passenger FCVs.

Fuel-cell commercial cars

cohenite
April 20, 2023 2:28 pm

I remember reading some years ago that Charles had an affinity with Islam. No idea how true that was.

I think he’s probably a Traditionalist.

Some sources say he converted to islam; but regardless he certainly admires the head lopping goat rooters:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/11/king-charles-what-are-his-views-on-islam

Dot
Dot
April 20, 2023 2:29 pm

But in the interests of not lengthening the 3 hour course (2nd session) more/getting sacked I allowed the obvious crap to pass.

Sorry bro I’d need something stronger than demon drink to get through this crap.

Is it really “White Ribbon” per se? I’d refuse on grounds of Andrew O’Keefe.

bespoke
bespoke
April 20, 2023 2:31 pm

I White Ribbon folded.

Alamak!
Alamak!
April 20, 2023 2:31 pm

headcase is still bitter & sad about an actual indigenous person being appointed to a role where they can use their actual experiences to make a difference for the folks outside of Ultimo & close by. As opposed to yet another inner-city labor/union dullard who will boost bureaucracy and budgets to “solve” nothing.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 20, 2023 2:32 pm

Bald headed gullible flog opines opiningly.

Australians on jobseeker shouldn’t have to move one lightbulb from room to room. We must do better
David Pocock

Ill take “things that never happened for $5 please.

Recently, I met a single mum, Susan. She can’t afford meat or fresh veggies and often skips meals to save money so she can afford her prescriptions. Susan is living on jobseeker.

A car is out of the question, public transport weighs heavily on her budget and lightbulbs are something she has decided she’ll have to do without. So she moves her one remaining lightbulb from kitchen to bathroom to bedroom each night.

Susan doesn’t want to live on jobseeker. She loves working and wants to work but she hasn’t been able to find a job. No matter what she’s tried, Susan hasn’t been able to find an employer willing to give her a chance.
She told me she doesn’t know whether it’s her age, her clothes or how people perceive her health – all she knows is that she’s been stuck on jobseeker, and left to carefully ration the amount of time she spends using that last lightbulb.

Bald headed flogs solution.
MOAR of your money.
It’s true that we have a budget with a structural deficit and growing debt. We can’t do everything. We all know that when managing our own budgets that tough decisions need to be made about what we prioritise.

Amid the incessant cries of budget constraints we lose sight of the fact we are one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

We can somehow afford the stage-three tax cuts, hundreds of billions on submarines, generous capital gains tax concessions on investment properties, billions of dollars in fossil fuel subsidies and we can afford not to tax windfall profits. But we can’t afford to look after Australians who need our support.

I dont suppose he thought of giving her a lightbulb from his own pocket might have helped?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 20, 2023 2:32 pm

However

How Japan’s big plans for a ‘hydrogen society’ fell flat

Issued on: 14/04/2023

Tokyo (AFP) – It was once touted as a miracle solution to Japan’s energy problems: creating a “hydrogen society” by sharply ramping up use of the fuel for vehicles, industry and housing.

But the country’s plan to expand its hydrogen market and slash greenhouse emissions has suffered delays and criticism over the fuel’s green credentials.

As G7 climate ministers meet in the northern Japanese city of Sapporo, here are some key points about the strategy:

Ambitious plans

In 2017, Japan became the first country to devise a national strategy for hydrogen power, aiming to drastically scale up its use by 2030.

The colourless, odourless gas is an exciting prospect on paper.

It can be produced, stored and transported in large quantities, and does not emit carbon dioxide when burned.

These qualities are attractive to Japan, which is heavily reliant on fossil fuel imports.

Most of its nuclear reactors are still offline after the 2011 Fukushima disaster, and the nation set a goal two and a half years ago of reaching carbon neutrality by 2050.
Fuel cell blues

Hydrogen-powered fuel cell vehicles, which Japanese automakers helped pioneer, were a key part of the original plan.

The government had hoped for 40,000 of these cars to be on the road by 2020, and 800,000 by 2030.

But by the end of last year, just 7,700 units had been sold in the country since 2014.

Despite subsidies for buyers, they remain “very expensive”, even compared to battery-powered electric cars, Kentaro Tamura, a Japan-based expert at the Institute for Global Environmental Strategies (IGES), told AFP.

Hydrogen refuelling stations have high installation and upkeep costs, and are rare in comparison to charging spots for electric vehicles, Tamura added.

Hydrogen-powered homes

The results have been better but still modest in housing — the other major area initially earmarked for hydrogen expansion.

A residential fuel cell programme called “Enefarm” was meant to equip 5.3 million Japanese homes by 2030.

It uses gas to create hydrogen that reacts with oxygen from the air to generate electricity and heat water.

But by the end of 2022, just 465,000 systems had been installed, far short of the government’s target of 1.4 million by 2020.

Price is a key factor here too, Tamura said, with installation costs “very high compared with alternative technologies like heat pumps”.

‘Grey’ area

Energy experts were sceptical of Japan’s hydrogen strategy from the start, because it was launched without creating a reliable supply chain for environmentally friendly “green” hydrogen, produced from renewable energy sources.

Instead, Japan opted for so-called “grey” hydrogen, made using greenhouse gas-emitting coal, petrol or gas, and “blue” hydrogen, which also comes from fossil fuels but with the carbon emissions captured and stored.

In the meantime, countries such as China and some European nations have moved faster on green hydrogen, which remains rare and expensive but is key to decarbonisation, the Japanese Renewable Energy Institute think-tank says.

In March, Tokyo agreed to spend $1.6 billion on an ambitious but controversial venture in Australia to produce liquid hydrogen from lignite coal and export it to Japan.

But critics say the project’s “blue” hydrogen claims are based on carbon capture technology that does not yet exist.

Co-firing controversy

Despite the setbacks, Japan will revise its hydrogen strategy by the end of May, with the Nikkei business daily reporting plans to increase its supply of the fuel to six times the current level by 2040.

It is also promoting another use for hydrogen and its derivative ammonia: burning it alongside gas and coal at existing power stations, to reduce carbon emissions.

An official from the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry told AFP that ammonia co-firing is “a realistic means of energy transition that is more CO2-reducing and economically efficient than the early phase-out of coal-fired power and its replacement with renewable energy”.

But climate campaigners question the value of the expensive practice on the path to cleaner energy.

Japan is “the only G7 member” pushing for co-firing, Greenpeace’s Hirotaka Koike said, describing it as a “national policy to keep the ‘sunset’ industry (of thermal power stations) alive”.

bespoke
bespoke
April 20, 2023 2:33 pm

I thought…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 20, 2023 2:41 pm

AMichael
59 minutes ago
I came across a great word yesterday..
“Bumfuzzled”. It means in a state of bewilderment, confused, or perplexed.
This certainly describes Albanese and the Comrades.
The Albanese Govt is a “bumfuzzled” Government.
I like that word.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 20, 2023 2:43 pm

Yeah, the Empire State, 102 storeys, built in 1929.

A Libertator bomber flew straight into the 79th floor at night, killed the
crew and everyone on the 79th, yet the 23 stories above that didn’t collapse and the damage was repaired in a coupla months.
How about that?
Twin Towers.
Demo-ed.
Building 7.
Demo-ed.
From wiki:
Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl, a structural engineering professor at the University of California at Berkeley, explained that the high temperatures in the fires weakened the steel beams and columns, causing them to become “soft and mushy”, and eventually they were unable to support the structure above.
Yeah, “soft and mushy”.

johanna
johanna
April 20, 2023 2:45 pm

The UK has a fractured and regionally variable set of cultures – and industrial-strength grievance runs strongly across the lot. It sounds incredible, but nobody in the plod is going to gamble their career prospects on everyone everywhere agreeing that a few visible stuffed toys, or the Robinson’s Golliwogs are just a bit of anachronistic fun.

The official calculus is firmly: the probability of ‘thwarted golliwog enthusiast’ unrest is far, far less than ‘Issa ninsult on my rights innit’ unrest.

Rinse and repeat with other issues.

Risk management. Common sense and official embarrassment come a Did Not Finish in an intolerant society.

Yep, and it goes across the board. I caught a few minutes of a TV show about Paddington Station today. A guy had accidentally dropped his backpack off the edge of the platform onto the track directly below. First a platform attendant came, and he called someone else over, who called someone else. By now the guy was getting pretty agitated, saying that if someone didn’t do something soon, he’d jump down and get it himself.

So they called a policeman to restrain him. They also (I kid you not) blocked off that platform and the one opposite from incoming trains, presumably in case he made a break for it.

By then there were five people looking helplessly at the backpack, which was less than 2m below them.

Finally a woman who was sufficiently senior in the hierarchy to undertake this daring act of salvage arrived with a long stick with pincers on the end and retrieved it in approximately ten seconds. The whole stupid episode took about fifteen minutes.

Modern Britain in a nutshell.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 20, 2023 2:45 pm

Speaking of “Bumfuzzled.”

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 20, 2023 2:46 pm

duncanmsays:
April 20, 2023 at 12:40 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
April 20, 2023 at 11:01 am
duncanm at 10:32.
The third leg of that equation is the momentum from groundspeed of the aircraft.
The B-25 had a cruise speed of 200 kts and was probably loitering at under 150 kts. The 9/11 aircraft were travelling at over 500 kts.

good point Sancho!

Sure is.
Velocity is squared in calculating kinetic energy.

bespoke
bespoke
April 20, 2023 2:48 pm

Question.
What reasoning is behind allowing defence lawyer’s on parole boards?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
April 20, 2023 2:48 pm

“Bumfuzzled”?
(adopts Ash voice)
“It’s a trick. Get an axe.”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 20, 2023 2:50 pm

WA News
Radio ratings: Perth’s ABC radio suffers nightmare tumbling to just 3 points of market share
Andrei HarmsworthThe West Australian
Thu, 20 April 2023 9:44AM

Radio listeners are tuning out of Perth’s ABC radio network like never before, new radio audience figures have revealed.

On Thursday, nightmare data released by GfK, the official provider of radio ratings for Commercial Radio & Audio, showed the station’s key Drive slot is languishing with just 3 points of the market share, falling well behind its commercial rivals.

In stark contrast, pop stations Nova 93.7 and 96FM dominated the time slots, soaring with over 18 per cent and 13 per cent respectively.

The headache extends right across the day for ABC and its chair Ita Buttrose, with Perth listeners deserting the station at almost all points of the day.

Overall the station is sitting with a minuscule 4.8 per cent of the market. In comparison Perth’s number one radio station, Nova 93.7, is holding strong with 17.2 per cent.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 20, 2023 2:56 pm

Roger at 1:55 pm

I see Jacinta Price has upset some land council.

I expect it won’t be the last time. “We are not amused.”

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 20, 2023 3:04 pm

Price isn’t native to Alice Springs, her tribal Country is 180 miles northwest.
What the Arrente are saying is that her people [the Warlpiri], brought their problems to Alice Springs from Yuendumu, and that Price is a troublemaker.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 20, 2023 3:06 pm

For non Perf Cats ALPBC Drive was the former purview of Nanna Hutchison whose claim to fame was being one of two hive drones to have their Twitter cancelled by the blancmange otherwise known as ALPBC management. My helpful reminder SMS to the station on the day of his retirement did not make it to air.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 20, 2023 3:09 pm

So I welcomed the idea of the NDIS. I just hope that the needs of those like I regularly spoke with so badly in need especially of respite care, even just for short periods, will be met.

I welcomed it too, for just that reason. In the 1980’s I had reason to attend as a person on a panel a gathering of politicos answering questions about electoral policies for the parents and other carers of people with serious injuries or developmental difficulties that require lifelong daily personal care and assistance. These people, especially the elderly parents, had heartbreaking tales of concern about what would happen to their child once they ‘were gone’.

If only the NDIS had looked to this group of severely disabled as those they wished to help then it would have been a wonderful policy. But it was organised as something else altogether, with far too much ambitious over-reach into areas best treated within the State public medical and health systems. These public systems have since become downgraded and a plethora of DIS-funded ‘providers’ have swiftly arisen to meet needs, often ones previously unknown.

With regard to autism, I believe that only Level 3 autism should come within the NDIS ambit, and that all psychiatric cases under the NDIS should return to psychiatric hospital care as in-care or out-patients. I say this with close knowledge of how the NDIS is functioning, with three members of my family currently receiving its help, two children for Level 2 autism and one adult for chronic schizophrenia. I believe all three are in need of assistance but that the NDIS is not the way to give it. They should receive help from community health centres, from public hospital services and from charities set up to assist specific forms of disability. There is also an important role for families in all of this and for respite care when necessary to give families a break. The NDIS is a provider boondoggle for milder cases of need. It is also a bureaucratic behemoth and could be cut right back once the clientele are far more limited. Also, disbursements could then be made more directly to parents and carers for they are the ones who know the disabled person’s needs the best. If all but Level 3 autism was removed from the NDIS it would also help if a small and limited yearly Federal welfare payment for individuals in milder categories of need was made, to use as they wish (fares, excursions, classes and savings etc). No intermediaries needed for its disbursement.

State provision of sheltered workshops is essential as a way forward out of the NDIS for many milder cases; yet they are closing. They provide superb benefits for mental health and should be widespread and of various types to suit specific levels of disability. My firstborn adult son, for instance, will never work, aged fifty he never has, but if his disorganisation was understood he could do some useful work instead of lingering on unemployment benefits for life as he does; undiagnosed in his youth and eschewing diagnosis now, he was one of the many thousands of ‘hidden’ autistic people in his day, often working in low-level jobs that have now disappeared. As a parent, I simply had to do my best with behaviours that would now be diagnosed, unaided and with no diagnosis made. These cases are now being discovered in childhood and placed on the NDIS. My suspicion is that quite of a few of the cases, such as that of my son, in past times had a two-parent family structure for support and routine; something lost as familial roles changed and marriages disintegrated. More research on this is needed to draw connections to emergent parenting patterns of deeply stressed parents, especially mothers. Low level autism is real, but it is, like gender dysphoria, also a social contagion. In past times, families have had more resilience against it and the workforce provided more opportunities to channel it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 20, 2023 3:09 pm

Ruh roh. Groogs is disappearing down a Dreamtime rabbit hole.

Black Ball
Black Ball
April 20, 2023 3:11 pm

Bolt:

Kimberley, you were right. See what a fool Mark McGowan has just made of himself in Beijing, trashing the dictatorship’s critics.

A few days before she died last year, I had my friend Kimberley Kitching, the Labor senator, over for lunch.

She was a human rights hawk and had warned for years about the Chinese dictatorship, even back when Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull was so naïve that he pushed for an extradition treaty to help China grab people it wanted in Australia.

At the end of the lunch, just two months before Anthony Albanese swept to power in Canberra, I asked Kimberley a question troubling me: would Labor be as tough on China as the Liberals were under Scott Morrison?

She stared and said two words. “Hell, no.”

To be fair, the Albanese Government has largely held the line on China, even if it’s gone quiet on human rights.

But the dirty work of appeasement is being done by two Labor premiers, Victoria’s Daniel Andrews and West Australia’s Mark McGowan, who on Tuesday disgraced himself on the first day of his five-day trip to China.

McGowan, was at a lunch thrown for him by the China-Australia Chamber of Commerce, sitting near Australia’s Ambassador, Graham Fletcher, the chamber’s chair, Vaughn Barber, and other guests.

He must have known he was being filmed. In fact, the film was then sent around by his office.

And what it showed was an Australian premier in communist China attacking the former Morrison Liberal government and especially the Liberals’ defence spokesman, Andrew Hastie, for being a critic of a dictatorship that’s banned democracy, locked up innocent Australians, hit Australia with trade bans and cyber attacks, and threatened war over democratic Taiwan.

McGowan is recorded saying he’d liked Liberal Finance Minister Mathias Cormann, who “had the same view as me” but Cormann “was the odd one out” among the Liberals.

McGowan then turned on Hastie, a former SAS officer and Assistant Minister for Defence who prizes freedom: “He swallowed some sort of Cold War pills back … when he was born, and he couldn’t get his mindset out of that.”.

How the Chinese dictatorship would have loved that. All said in Beijing, and in front of a camera! Here was one of its useful idiots, come crawling for China’s trade and attacking Australians back home who see this dictatorship as a threat to our freedom.

It’s disgusting. To me, it’s like a premier visiting Nazi Germany and announcing Robert Menzies was deluded to resist Germany.

Of course, it’s not surprising that McGowan doesn’t prize freedom. He’s a bit of an autocrat himself, locking away Western Australia for so long during the pandemic.

Hastie himself made that point in an unusually angry response from a serious Christian: “The truth is that he’s a prison guard looking for work now that the pandemic has finished.”

Hastie added: “I’m not surprised he’s running down Australian MPs in China … What’s he really saying when the cameras aren’t running?”

Indeed. And what really rankles is that this patsy is such a hypocrite.

Before McGowan left for China, Nick Coyle tried to reach him. What followed says a lot.

Coyle is the partner of Cheng Lei, the Australian journalist who has so far spent two years in a Chinese jail on bogus charges that she leaked state secrets. In truth, she seems a hostage, to warn Chinese Australians to shut up and to force our politicians to kowtow.

Coyle wanted McGowan to ask Chinese officials to help Cheng, who hasn’t spoken to her children since her arrest.

You’d think McGowan might show sympathy, especially since Cheng’s father lives in his state, but Coyle didn’t even get the courtesy of a response.

Pushed by journalists, McGowan’s office issued a bland statement saying Cheng’s nightmare was not their business: “The Premier will not raise specific foreign policy matters as they are the responsibility of the federal government.”

Coyle got the same treatment when he appealed personally to Premier Andrews for help, ahead of Andrews’ mysterious suck-up tour of China last month.

No response, even though Cheng’s children are Victorians. And journalists were again told that foreign policy was for the federal government, not for a mere Premier.

Yet here was McGowan on day one in China, publicly offering his unsolicited opinions on foreign policy – how the Liberals had it wrong, and we should smile more at the dictator.

Hypocrite. Sellout. Useful idiot. Who else would McGowan sell out for the sniff of the dictatorship’s trade?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 20, 2023 3:12 pm

Ruh roh. Groogs is disappearing down a Dreamtime rabbit hole.

He’s bumfuzzled.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 20, 2023 3:13 pm

What the Arrente are saying is that her people [the Warlpiri], brought their problems to Alice Springs from Yuendumu, and that Price is a troublemaker

The Arrente are a subgroup of the Walpiri, who range from the SA Pitlands right up to Lajamanu and Kalkarindji. That is southwest of Katherine, Ed October. You giant flog.

NB: No jacarandas there.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 20, 2023 3:15 pm

Sure, some flack from Albanese’s office has heavied Arrente boxwallah Graeme Smith to disavow Price, but the bottom line is:

She’s an ABC presenter who can sing and dance.

Our own Candice Owens.
And the first good offer she gets from Albanese, she’ll leave Dutton in the lurch.

Black Ball
Black Ball
April 20, 2023 3:15 pm

Test

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 20, 2023 3:22 pm

Jacinta Price, running scared of PK, but she’d be a good P.M.

What idiot said that?

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 20, 2023 3:25 pm

thefrollickingmolesays:
April 20, 2023 at 2:32 pm
Bald headed gullible flog opines opiningly.

Australians on jobseeker shouldn’t have to move one lightbulb from room to room. We must do better
David Pocock

Ill take “things that never happened for $5 please.

Recently, I met a single mum, Susan. She can’t afford meat or fresh veggies and often skips meals to save money so she can afford her prescriptions. Susan is living on jobseeker.

Why didn’t he buy her a few, using his senatorial salary?

Cheapskate.

Zatara
Zatara
April 20, 2023 3:26 pm

No B-24 Liberator ever flew into the Empire State building.

A much smaller B-25 Mitchell did.

1945 Empire State Building B-25 crash

14 people were killed, 3 crew and 11 civilians in the building. 24 were injured.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 20, 2023 3:29 pm

Grandpa Ed Simpson

Yeah, the Empire State, 102 storeys, built in 1929.

A Libertator bomber flew straight into the 79th floor at night,

It was a rather smaller B-25 Mitchell, rather than a four engined B-24 Liberator.

Are you really as stupid as you act?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2023 3:29 pm

Velocity is squared in calculating kinetic energy.

Pales into insignificance next to the energy content of 100 tonnes of kerosene.
That’s what brought down the tower.
The Romans knew what lighting a fire under an edifice could do. Materials of construction don’t like such a conflagration.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 20, 2023 3:31 pm

Price isn’t native to Alice Springs, her tribal Country is 180 miles northwest.
What the Arrente are saying is that her people [the Warlpiri], brought their problems to Alice Springs from Yuendumu, and that Price is a troublemaker.

Irrelevant. Nugget Coombes ideal of a ‘noble savage’ amalgamated many tribal groups, Warlpiri, Pitjatjantjara, Arrente and others into Yuendemu where tribal antagonisms festered. When I arrived at Yuendemu in early 1969 two tribal men with spears were having it out on the new football field. Hello, it’s on again, said the weary Patrol Officer who drove me there.

Tribal allegiances in the Alice are variable and one group may speak against another, but it is all old news now , the heritage of sniping and gossip that traditional small-scale communities excel at from within. Price is a good representative for all of the Top End. She knows the problems, including those of past tribal antagonisms. All power to her success against the hideous and useless Voice and to a good future for Top Enders dwelling together, ‘black, white and brindle’ as the old saying used to be in country NSW when I worked with some aboriginal people there, working towards integration, in the days before Marxism got to them and produced mental cases of dependency, victimisation and hatred.

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