Open Thread – Weekend 29 April 2023


Road along the Loing Canal, Camille Pissaro, 1902

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Winston Smith
April 30, 2023 2:18 pm

Dover Beach:

Baris was also saying that Fox has not only taken a hammering since, but that the demo for Fox, isn’t sustainable and that Tucker these last few years is the only one that reaches across to the younger demo, which is also MAGA. This could be terminal for Fox.

I doubt terminal, but a solid kick in the guts for Murdochs is in the future for them.
I’m yet to hear anyone else articulate the fury at the last three years and how they’ve been, and are being treated by the political parties and the media. There is an element of bloody mindedness in the reactions of the wukkas and the middle class to the Gillette, Bud Light and Tucker put downs from the corporates and they’re not putting up with the arrogance from them any more.
Focks may just cop a good hiding from their customers – certainly they deserve it. It probably won’t be terminal for them, but it will be a message corporate America will understand.

Morsie
Morsie
April 30, 2023 2:18 pm

Lazy Sunday.Reading the thread,watching the footy and listening to new Tommy Emmanueal as lbum.
Who said men can’t multi task.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 30, 2023 2:19 pm

I don’t know about you but someone has to merely crack the seal on a bottle of Clayton’s in my general vicinity and if I get a whiff, I immediately strip off and start assaulting people. Especially when I’m on holiday. It’s pretty normal, the Indos should get over it.

However, Russian tourists in Bali have been taking photographs of themselves posing in trees. Outrageous!

132andBush
132andBush
April 30, 2023 2:21 pm

“I’m just sick of hearing this: We can’t win. All is woe. What does it serve actually saying it? How does it motivate action? It doesn’t.

Exactly.
Sounds exactly like a certain demographic that has listened to the constant whisperings that say “It’s not your fault you’re doing badly, it’s all ******’s fault. So nothing you can do will change your situation”

The Dems ain’t going to be happy when they front up to Him,

And how happy is He going to be with you and your rationalised away surrender to evil?

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 30, 2023 2:21 pm

compared to 2020 I mean

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 30, 2023 2:25 pm

I like the idea of DeSantis standing for the primaries.

Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning (29 Apr)

Good news. But I have no illusions about who the Republican voters want, nor the chance of any Republican winning in 2024.

Which doesn’t say that standing in the primary isn’t worth it. It’s a fine way to get national attention and coverage. And it helps Trump stay in the lane. Competition is good.

calli
calli
April 30, 2023 2:26 pm

I have a lunch coming up soon with some totally captured Christians. Like so many, they always vote Labor and are completely on board with the Green agenda. And did I mention a sublime dose of TDS?

I am required to be kind to them, I have no choice in the matter. And, also, I will be a guest at their table, so no way will I be rude anyway. However, Lindsay has given me some excellent ammunition of the easily checked, impersonal kind, that I can simply drop like pearls into the bolognaise and cheesecake.

They still think Socialism is “being kind to the poor and to the workers”. It left them behind long ago, but some attitudes die very hard. Especially if you’re a nice person and do your virtue signalling at the ballot box and not at the soup kitchen.

Pogria
Pogria
April 30, 2023 2:27 pm

bespokesays:
April 30, 2023 at 11:33 am
Makkasays:
April 30, 2023 at 11:23 am

A nice comfortable shed, where to can switch all this shit off and spend quality time with your interests and hobbies, while doing the best to forewarn/forearm you family.

I’ll sell you a rundown old pub and throw in a matching serving wench for free. Cheep at fifty thousand.

I know Winston has first dibs, but if the State or distance is wrong for him, can I have second dibs?

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 30, 2023 2:31 pm

If you have hope, it is incumbent upon you to resist.

If you can’t rouse your erstwhile fellow-travellers who have lost hope, then leave them with their white flags and their lamentations. They’re worse than useless; they’re dangerous. They’ll inevitably end up knuckling under the new regime and are liable to demonstrating their compliance by selling out those they know who have refused to.

JC
JC
April 30, 2023 2:33 pm

What an incredible achievement and happy 75th birthday.

If you will it, it is no dream. Those are the words of Theodor Herzl, the founder of modern Zionism, who did more than anyone to promote a vision of Jewish return to the land of the Bible. I thought of Herzl the other day, during my first journey on the sleek new Tel Aviv-Jerusalem railway, which shuttled me from Ben Gurion airport to the Holy City in about the time it took to skip the ads on a podcast.

Opened just before the pandemic, this railway was 11 years overdue, something we in Britain can sympathise with, but now that it’s finally working it embodies the best of modern Israel: fast, efficient, impressive.

Herzl, an Austrian journalist, died before his vision for an “old-new” Jewish homeland was realised. But how he would have marvelled at this new artery that links Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, connecting modern and ancient, secular and religious, carrying vast families of black-hatted Haredim and rippled yoga bunnies back and forth between the nation’s two power centres.
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Demonstrators lift placards and use flares during a rally to protest the Israeli government’s judicial overhaul bill in Tel Aviv on April 29. Picture: AFP

Israel turned 75 on Wednesday. It is one of the most astonishing achievements of the modern age. Every time I visit Tel Aviv, I still feel a shudder of awe over the sheer improbability of its existence, a thrilling modern metropolis built on little more than ancestral longing and borrowed guns.

Israel at 75 has a GDP per capita notably higher than Britain’s. It is 11 times richer than its neighbour Egypt. It has won more Nobel prizes per person than America or France. It is a (still) functioning democracy, home to the Middle East’s largest gay pride parade. And now it has a lovely high-speed railway too.

Israel faces profound challenges. Its secular and religious communities are intensely at odds, putting the country’s democractic character at risk. Much of its Arab population remains restless and alienated. Nonetheless, this country is a towering monument to the power of ideas. It is literally a dream come true.

Johnny Rotten
April 30, 2023 2:34 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
April 30, 2023 at 2:25 pm
I like the idea of DeSantis standing for the primaries.

DeSantis should stay in Florida as the Guv’ner. Don’t go to the Swamp just yet. Eventually, the crap in DC will be flushed down around the S bend. The People will revolt and do it.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
April 30, 2023 2:36 pm

Winston

IMO just the third generation curse striking again. Though I don’t think we will see the full results until when Murdoch Snr passes if they still have possession of Fox.

bespoke
bespoke
April 30, 2023 2:38 pm

I know Winston has first dibs, but if the State or distance is wrong for him, can I have second dibs?

On the serving wench or pub, Pogria ?

Vicki
Vicki
April 30, 2023 2:38 pm

I could be very twee and say that if God could pick a candidate, it would be DeSantis (after all the Big Man calls him “DeSanctimonious”) and not Trump.

But I won’t, will I?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 30, 2023 2:39 pm

And how happy is He going to be with you and your rationalised away surrender to evil?

132andBush – I joined the AAR knowing that I could be ordered to kill men. I joined up after careful consideration of the Word and whether it was acceptable to do so as a Christian. I believe it was, but I can conceive that I may have been mistaken. As it was none of those dilemmas occurred in practice and I only served a couple years since I was not suited to be an infantryman, even though I was willing. The fact that you might like doing something doesn’t mean you are good at it.

If I was ordered to fight to liberate our country I would, even now, arthritically, and even though I haven’t handled a firearm for forty years (you don’t forget).

In the US Civil War millions of Christians signed up to fight on either side, as befitted how their consciences stood: states rights or Federal rights. It was an interesting conundrum, since the Bible says we should honour the authorities and obey them. But in 1861 it was “which authority?”

At the moment the right in the US has a couple hundred million firearms. But until and unless a legitimate authority calls them up they won’t fight. We fight only for what is legitimate.

Sorry I don’t want to be twee, but it’s really important to have an official just cause and casus belli. Or it ain;t happening.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 30, 2023 2:40 pm

I feel fortunate to have lived through the Trump and Covid eras. I now know who my enemies are and what they’re capable of. Previously I regarded many of them as allies.

johanna
johanna
April 30, 2023 2:40 pm

Makka says:
April 30, 2023 at 12:23 pm

Poland and by extension Europe have failed to appreciate the depth of deep set sullen stubbornness that is part of the Russian national psyche. That combined with their innate patriotism for their Motherland and resourcefulness in adversity. In amongst that chaotic and in places ramshackle nation.

They (Euroweenies) assume Russians are as fickle and easily influenced as they are. It’s turning out to be a major learning experience for those Euro elitist deadshits.
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I think that you will find that central Europeans, including Poles and especially Hungarians, are at least evenly matched in that regard.

Bit of a simplistic analysis, IMHO.

Winston Smith
April 30, 2023 2:41 pm

Bruce O’Newk:

The Greens are set to announce a bill to parliament next month to freeze rent prices for the next two years. The proposed legislation would also give the Treasurer power to overrule the Reserve Bank and freeze interest rates.

Why do I have the horribly uneasy feeling this has come straight from Albo and his stable of Trotskyists to create a further crisis in the housing rental market, but is being put forward by the Greens so they can play the Baddie to the Labor Goodies?
Gees I’m becoming sceptical!

Cassie of Sydney
April 30, 2023 2:41 pm

“What an incredible achievement and happy 75th birthday.”

Makes me very proud.

Roger
Roger
April 30, 2023 2:43 pm

I have a lunch coming up soon with some totally captured Christians. Like so many, they always vote Labor and are completely on board with the Green agenda. And did I mention a sublime dose of TDS?

OK…just how did you manage an invite to the bishops’ conference?

Cliff Boof
Cliff Boof
April 30, 2023 2:46 pm

Looks like Fyles and Worden have given Jamie Chalker taxpayer money to keep his mouth shut about their incompetence and go quietly.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-30/jamie-chalker-nt-police-commissioner-settlement-nt-government/102281808
Chalker wasn’t worth a damn anyway.

shatterzzz
April 30, 2023 2:50 pm

A couple of weeks ago the ABC weirdly singled out Russian tourists for a scolding over their naughty, culturally disrespectful behaviour in Bali. Fortunately, Australians in Indonesia are above reproach in this regard:

Noticed these dayz that “our” ABC squibs lotza stories straight from the Mail Online .. that selection was from an MO anti Wussia week ……..

johanna
johanna
April 30, 2023 2:52 pm

The Greens are set to announce a bill to parliament next month to freeze rent prices for the next two years. The proposed legislation would also give the Treasurer power to overrule the Reserve Bank and freeze interest rates.

Two things that have been tried a thousand times which’ve succeeded exactly nowhere.

What are the chances of a ‘journalist’ asking Adam Bandt to provide a single example of where this oft tried approach has worked in the medium, let alone long, term?

Not holding my breath either.

Maybe he thinks Cuba?

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 30, 2023 2:53 pm

The Greens are set to announce a bill to parliament next month to freeze rent prices for the next two years.

Next up, a bill to ban construction on any land within a 100km radius of a plant and/ or animal dwelling.

You know it makes sense.

Makka
Makka
April 30, 2023 2:54 pm

Bit of a simplistic analysis, IMHO.

No, the analysis actually comes from living in Russia for a couple of years. What’s simplistic is your assumption Central Europeans have the spine to keep cutting off their noses to keep Western Europe and Nato happy.

Roger
Roger
April 30, 2023 2:56 pm

Noticed these dayz that “our” ABC squibs lotza stories straight from the Mail Online ..

Nice to see them earning their 11% pay rise.

Winston Smith
April 30, 2023 3:00 pm

Rockdoctor:
A week old and another one in Thailand that came to messy end. IMO there’s more to this one than we are being told as well.

Brenton Craig Abbas Abdullah McArthur, 47, is accused of spitting on Imam M Basri Anwar’s face at the al-Muhajir Mosque in the city of Bandung on Friday.
McArthur appeared to refer to the alleged incident in an Instagram post on Saturday morning (AEST) in which he posted a video of himself saying: “Stop crying all your rascist [sic] tears.
“I am a Muslim and this is just a rascist [sic] threatening a bule and laughing being a coward.” Bule is an Indonesian word for foreigner.

Another one who needs a good flogging to wake up to himself.

Razey
Razey
April 30, 2023 3:04 pm

Rent freeze? So they will freeze all costs for owners too?

Vicki
Vicki
April 30, 2023 3:11 pm

An illuminating article by Keith Windschuttle in Quadrant on the implication of reparations following any Yes vote on the Voice:

An Ambassador for Reparations
13th April 2023 Comments (34)

Keith Windschuttle
Quadrant Magazine
[email protected]

In September last year the Albanese government advertised for applicants for a new position in the bureaucracy, an Ambassador for First Nations People. The ambassador would be employed by the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade to work across a number of government agencies and departments. The brief would be to

engage directly on how Australia’s international engagement contributes to Indigenous community and economic development, supports First Nations businesses and exporters, delivers practical action on climate change, builds connections across the Indo-Pacific region and supports Indigenous rights around the world.

The position would mean that Australia would for the first time have “dedicated indigenous representation in our international engagement”. In other words, from the earliest days after its election victory, the Albanese government decided that the scope of its commitment to the Aboriginal Voice would extend well beyond domestic issues.

In March this year, Indigenous Affairs Minister Linda Burney announced that Justin Mohamed had got the job. The published documents gave only short accounts of the areas in which Mohamed would concentrate but it was clear he was expected to focus on issues of much more significance than overseas trade in indigenous art and artefacts or tourist attractions.

Mohamed’s former career path has been not in trade but in identity politics. His previous job was Secretary of Aboriginal Justice in the Victorian government where he oversaw the development of the state treaty with Aboriginal people and truth-telling projects. As Ambassador for First Nations, his brief from the Albanese government now is to “ensure the perspectives of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples are included in our international engagements”.

You might have thought such an appointment would have attracted its share of publicity, especially given the controversy that emerged over Albanese’s decision to give the proposed Voice the right to consult and advise not just the Parliament but the entire executive of the Commonwealth government. An indigenous ambassador could potentially influence international policies of security, defence and foreign affairs. If the Voice gets up under its present wording, the ambassador will clearly be one of those always at its beck and call.

So far, the mainstream media have largely ignored this development. The announcement of Mohamed’s appointment received minimal publicity. The only commentary I have seen about it has been an article by Gary Johns, secretary of Recognise A Better Way, in the online site Epoch Times. Johns’s piece was published before Peter Dutton transformed the media debate by announcing he would lead a Vote No campaign. Yet the implications of the Voice’s international role deserve to be much wider known since they provide more strong reasons for voting No.

In the advertisement for the ambassador’s position last September, the media release was accompanied by a statement from Foreign Minister Penny Wong, who said that, as well as helping to grow Aboriginal trade and investment, the ambassador “will also lead Australia’s engagement to progress First Nations rights globally.” What she was tacitly referring to here was the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (UNDRIP), a document endorsed by the UN General Assembly in 2007. Kevin Rudd’s Labor government offi­cially adopted it at a ceremony in Parliament House, Canberra, in April 2009. Ever since then, the ideas in this declaration have been central to Aboriginal political demands on the rest of Australia.

For its Aboriginal advocates, UNDRIP promises two major gains in economic and political power: reparations and sovereignty. These issues will be the focus of much of Ambassador Mohamed’s time and energy in pursuing Aboriginal rights globally. If the constitutional referendum proposed by Albanese is successful, the activities the new diplomat will be required to pursue in international tribunals like the United Nations Human Rights Council, the UN Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues or the International Court of Justice, will be those identified by UNDRIP.

One of the principal issues that document identifies is reparations. Its article 28 endorses the following two clauses:

1/ Indigenous peoples have the right to redress, by means that can include restitution or, when this is not possible, of a just, fair and equitable compensation, for the lands, territories and resources which they have traditionally owned or otherwise occupied or used, and which have been confiscated, taken, occupied, used or damaged without their free, prior and informed consent.

2/ Unless otherwise freely agreed upon by the peoples concerned, compensation shall take the form of lands, territories and resources equal in quality, size and legal status or of monetary compensation or other appropriate redress.

Since the Aboriginal political class now declares at every opportunity that they never surrendered their sovereignty over all of Australia and that British occupation of Aboriginal land in 1788 was illegal both then and now, the Commonwealth government could be faced with some very costly demands. The appropriate reparations would be equal in value to all the property that was purportedly stolen from them – that is, the entire continent of Australia, its offshore islands and waterways – that have not already been returned or compensated.

In 2005, another declaration by the UN was passed by the General Assembly. This is generally identified as the acceptance of the human rights set out in the Van Boven Principles. (The formal title was: Basic Principles and Guidelines on the Right to a Remedy and Reparation for Victims of Gross Violations of International Human Rights Law and Serious Violations of International Humanitarian Law). Today it is frequently referenced in papers and reports on Aboriginal policy by Australia’s various human rights bureaucracies and in documents advocating Aboriginal treaties.

For example, one of the most exhaustive of these reports is the Northern Territory Treaty Commission, Final Report, 2022, which argues that a treaty with First Nations should provide reparations for indigenous people under the Van Boven Principles. This requires the Commonwealth to provide to Aboriginal people “an acknowledgement and apology for breaches of human rights; guarantees against repetition; measures of restitution; measures of rehabilitation, and monetary compensation”.

The NT report says reparations should be paid to those indigenous peoples who have suffered personal pain and suffering, and have endured losses of identity, family connection, language, culture, and access to traditional land. Since large numbers of those who identify as Aboriginal today would not trouble their conscience by pleading they or their ancestors endured such misfortunes, they would not hesitate to join the long queue for reparation payments.

We already have an example of the granting of similar terms by the Commonwealth government in the $600 million dollar grant announced in 2021 to members of the Stolen Generations and their offspring. The then Minister for Indigenous Australians, Ken Wyatt, allocated the money for the “healing” of those allegedly suffering from trauma. Most of it, some $378 million, was to fund a “redress scheme” comprising compensation grants of $75,000 to each individual who identifies as a survivor of the Stolen Generations, plus a $7000 grant “to facilitate healing”. The rest was allocated for grants for research services and healing treatments.

Even though the major test case of the Stolen Generations in the Northern Territory Supreme Court, Cubillo and Gunner v Commonwealth, found the claims by the plaintiffs were unproven, and the High Court of Australia in Kruger v Commonwealth found the same about claims of genocide, Wyatt agreed to pay compensation not only to those who claimed to have been stolen but to their relatives and descendants for the alleged trauma they suffered, with no limit on how distant this family relationship might be. Even the great-grandchildren of the original Stolen Generations claimants could make a claim. The policy would serve those “descended from older generations who were removed — great grandparents, grandparents, parents, aunties, and uncles”.

Even greater munificence can be expected if the current Commonwealth government wins constitutional referendum later this year and introduces a treaty with similar ideological objectives.

The key ideas that inform these policies do not derive from Aboriginal culture or its modern political advocates. Like the term “First Nations”, the most influential ideas about reparations and compensation in the international milieu come from the US. They are not ancient or traditional there either.

Since 2001 and the publication of a best-selling book by Randall Robinson, The Debt: What America Owes to Blacks, a growing number of lawsuits and political demonstrations have generated a movement to compensate the distant descendants of America’s black slaves. US academics have embellished their careers by joining the throng and specialist lawyers have emerged to pursue the issue through the courts and legislatures.

Since the police killing of African-American George Floyd in May 2020, the Black Lives Matter movement has become the most publicised promoter of the link between slavery and contemporary race relations. And just as Australian Aboriginal radicals in the 1960s imitated Black Power advocates in the American Civil Rights movement, today’s Aboriginal political activists are doing the same again this time around. This is despite the fact that the movements they are imitating were founded not by indigenous Americans but by African-American socialists.

Since January this year, the most notorious of the American demands for reparations has been initiated by advisors to the government of the City of San Francisco. Although California was never a state that permitted slavery in any legal or political sense, it is now being told to lift black reparations to a breathtaking new height.

San Francisco’s African American Reparations Advisory Committee produced a report advocating a $5 million payment to every black person who qualified, plus a supplemental income to low-income residents for the next 250 years. The principal qualifications required for these payments were that recipients be at least 18 years old and have identified as black or African-American on public documents for at least ten years. Other requirements include that the resident is “personally, or the direct descendant of someone, incarcerated by the failed War on Drugs” or is a “Descendant of someone enslaved through US chattel slavery before 1865”.

The San Francisco report also included a statement that is very likely to have an influence on the kind of debate we can expect in the Vote Yes campaign in our own forthcoming referendum. In a testimonial bordering on ethnic blackmail, the report declared that San Francisco’s “international reputation as a shining progressive gem in the west is undermined by its legacy of mistreatment, violence towards, and targeted racism against Black Americans.” The San Francisco city government is currently negotiating with the authors of this proposal who will submit a final report in June.

Is the $5 million per head of reparations an ambit claim that will inevitably be reduced? Probably yes. But in the minds of reparations seekers everywhere it has certainly lifted the bar of what could be possible and what they are likely to settle for.

So by the time the Australian government’s negotiators settle with the Voice on a figure for individual reparations here, it’s a safe bet the $600 million granted by Ken Wyatt for his Stolen Generations redress scheme will look paltry. In fact, the number of Australian indigenous claimants attracted to a reparations offer like that of San Francisco would make the costs of the recent national Covid lockdowns look like small beer.

As a growing number of comments by readers of articles in our daily newspapers are beginning to recognise, the treaties and reparations generated by the Voice can never lead to reconciliation. Instead, discussions about who will get what from treaties in Australia have already created two separate entities, Aboriginal people versus Australian people, engaged in an unseemly contest for moral supremacy and political power.

As leftist historian Henry Reynolds’s argued in his 1996 book, Aboriginal Sovereignty, and as the subsequent stream of books and reports by the Aboriginal elite in Sydney, Melbourne and Canberra confirm time and again, their common objective is to divide this continent three ways, between Aborigines, Torres Strait Islanders, and the rest of us. The 97 per cent of the population descended from those who came here after 1788, have nothing to gain and a lot to lose.

The objectives of indigenous sovereignty and reparations for bogus historical offences should be seen as the opposite of “completing the nation”. Those conservative political identities who have long supported the Voice, such as Julian Leeser and Greg Craven, have based their stance on wishful thinking. As any realistic conservative could tell them, a victory for Yes in the forthcoming constitutional referendum is guaranteed to divide the nation. The goodwill of the majority of our population towards Aboriginal people, clearly in evidence since the previous referendum in 1967, will be lost in a swamp of unjustifiable political and moral dogmas that the Voice will institutionalise. The unintended consequences can only end in sorrow.

132andBush
132andBush
April 30, 2023 3:16 pm

At the moment the right in the US has a couple hundred million firearms. But until and unless a legitimate authority calls them up they won’t fight. We fight only for what is legitimate.

Sorry I don’t want to be twee, but it’s really important to have an official just cause and casus belli. Or it ain;t happening.

Bruce,
Please define what is legitimate and who gets to define it?

Makka
Makka
April 30, 2023 3:17 pm

The unintended consequences can only end in sorrow.

Who says they are “unintended”. These Marxist grubs will thrive in the money spinning tsunami a Yes vote will usher in.

Zatara
Zatara
April 30, 2023 3:19 pm

Don’t throw away your hard copy books, because they are the enduring repository and cannot be disappeared.

– Tucker Carlson

Very wise. I’ve even gone out looking for certain books to add to my collection before they vanish or are altered to the point where they are unrecognizable. My last acquisition was a full collection of the original Dr Seuss books because I don’t want my descendants to have to read the woke versions.

Oh come on
Oh come on
April 30, 2023 3:20 pm

The other consideration is that Russia has the strategic heft to go its own way, unlike the Poles and Hungarians.

The Poles in particular are playing a particularly dangerous game with the Russians. They apparently haven’t realised that modern Russia =/= the USSR, although, to be fair, the same could be said for the entire West. However, the Poles don’t even seem to realise that modern Russia =/= Imperial Russia. The historical grudge they hold (or at least their leadership class holds) against the Russians is getting out of hand and is causing them to behave rashly. Poland’s willingness to be the tip of the spear of a faraway great power that’s opposed to a neighbouring great power could easily result in its destruction. And the destruction of all of us, really.

Chris
Chris
April 30, 2023 3:28 pm

Bruce,
Please define what is legitimate and who gets to define it?

From long-ago memory I chased this up.
In general a just overthrow of the existing government requires that:
1) There is a long history of abuses and usurpations. (Abuse of legislative or executive authority to punish political enemies is an example, but a few instances are not enough)
2) Repeated attempts to seek redress have been rebuffed. (Justice has been subverted eg by courts acting as agents of one side)
3) There is general agreement among ‘men er persons of good standing’ that is is time. (The local phone box meeting of four FBI plants and a mong does not cut it.)

Hotheads don’t get licensed by indignation. Not at all.

132andBush
132andBush
April 30, 2023 3:28 pm

Bruce,
Please define what is legitimate and who gets to define it?

Because atm the other side is all too happy to define what is legitimate and moping around like Eyore with a “we won’t win regardless” attitude is exactly what they like best.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
April 30, 2023 3:33 pm

Because atm the other side is all too happy to define what is legitimate and moping around like Eyore with a “we won’t win regardless” attitude is exactly what they like best.

They currently define free speech as a crime, though not violence that is conducted on behalf of furthering their agenda.

We all know the answer, we just can’t say it out loud for some reason…

Violence works.
The progressives currently have a monopoly on violence because the conservatives are unwilling to use violence as a strategy…

Until that changes, there can be no victory for the conservative side in any battle.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 30, 2023 3:39 pm

callisays:
April 30, 2023 at 2:17 pm
One behavioural trait we raise awareness of is the demonstrated Hypocrisy of our opponents.

For instance, “Which electric car are you buying?” and my other favourite, “Which battery have you decided to buy?”.

Easy ones and right to the hip pocket solar plexus. Watch the mouth movements.

I have challenged various Gerbil Worming fanatics, here (including the fat fascist fool), at CL’s (including Homer the Idiot and Nix the sock puppet) and a couple at Don Aitkin’s blog before he closed it down. They were asked to take the renewable challenge: solar panels on the roof, battery by the house, EV in the garage, and disconnect from the grid.

Only Homer, has responded, to state only that batteries are not currently economic. Silence from the rest. It is a good tactic to shut them up, at least for a while.

Chris
Chris
April 30, 2023 3:40 pm

Get a looksee at this abomination.

Nuh uh. I am not clicking.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 30, 2023 3:45 pm

Why do I have the horribly uneasy feeling this has come straight from Albo and his stable of Trotskyists to create a further crisis in the housing rental market, but is being put forward by the Greens so they can play the Baddie to the Labor Goodies?
Gees I’m becoming sceptical!

Cynical, Winston, cynical.

Zatara
Zatara
April 30, 2023 3:45 pm

In general a just overthrow of the existing government requires that:

That sounds familiar.

Might be time to dust that one off and keep it handy for updating.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
April 30, 2023 3:52 pm

Get a looksee at this abomination.

Nuh uh. I am not clicking.

try this instead 🙂

Chris
Chris
April 30, 2023 3:55 pm

try this instead ?

I love the promise in the link-name hiding underneath – but still not clicking.
Might be just more cute owls.

Indolent
Indolent
April 30, 2023 3:58 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
April 30, 2023 4:01 pm

Bruce of Newcastle at 12:52

The Greens are set to announce a bill to parliament next month to freeze rent prices for the next two years

An idea so flawed it is sure to appeal to their base.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
April 30, 2023 4:03 pm

I love the promise in the link-name hiding underneath – but still not clicking.
Might be just more cute owls.

It’s legitimate.

It’s there as a palette cleanser for anyone who does click the other link.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 30, 2023 4:08 pm

Chris at 12:58 – WA (and Australia) has a long history of diverting mineral riches into monumental projects from similarly monumental egos. The Cottesloe Civic Centre is perhaps the best example. Much of UWA and the Paris end of Collins St would fall into the same category.

calli
calli
April 30, 2023 4:08 pm

Only Homer, has responded, to state only that batteries are not currently economic. Silence from the rest. It is a good tactic to shut them up, at least for a while.

Homer is correct. The only way for them to be economic is for the taxpayer to subsidise them, the cost of electricity goes stratospheric…or widespread crippling blackouts (which make them a trade-off for inconvenience).

As for shutting them up…yes it works. But I would rather discuss solutions and strategies further with them. I know that I will never convince them as it’s a faith thing now and deeply embedded.

Delta A
Delta A
April 30, 2023 4:19 pm

I love the promise in the link-name hiding underneath – but still not clicking.
Might be just more cute owls.

Good call, Chris. That was gross.

Actually JC’s post featured extraordinarily lovely Indian ladies. Worth a peek.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 30, 2023 4:22 pm

Razey at 3:04

Rent freeze? So they will freeze all costs for owners too?

The grumbling from Mum and Dad landlords is getting louder. Next step – capital strike. Bad news for those who need the Population Ponzi to keep firing.

JC
JC
April 30, 2023 4:22 pm

He would, could still run, as VP to Trump. Solves that problem.

That would never work. Neither of these two would play second fiddle to someone else.

Winston Smith
April 30, 2023 4:24 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnZ2VBO7vao
The Australian Armour and Artillery Museums Tiger 1 Restoration.

Gabor
Gabor
April 30, 2023 4:25 pm

Winston Smith says:
April 30, 2023 at 12:51 pm

Doc Faustus:

Where would the canaries live?

The Canary Islands?
(Is there a prize for quickest correct answer?)

The two Ronnies. “the Virgin islands have no virgins, and the same for the Canary islands, they have no … canaries.

calli
calli
April 30, 2023 4:29 pm

Canary Islands are named after…dergs. Latin ones.

Pogria
Pogria
April 30, 2023 4:30 pm

bespokesays:
April 30, 2023 at 2:38 pm
I know Winston has first dibs, but if the State or distance is wrong for him, can I have second dibs?

On the serving wench or pub, Pogria ?

Cheeky Bugger, I can do my own wenching!

JC
JC
April 30, 2023 4:31 pm

If no one is within 30 pts of Trump by the end of the year he should just become the nominee.

Dover, are you slowly giving up on democratic systems? The primary system is to allow the faithful to decide on their nominee.

Zatara
Zatara
April 30, 2023 4:31 pm

He would, could still run, as VP to Trump.

Florida would not be happy about that. They won’t mind loaning DeSantis to the nation as president but no way they want to lose him to be totally ignored as VP.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 30, 2023 4:33 pm

Anyone familiar with Pommy girls on holidays would find the lack of virgins on the Canary Islands no surprise.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 30, 2023 4:33 pm

Classic clips. Nothing but respect for the builders of these machines.

———–

Hoonigan:

12,000lb Monster Jam Truck SHREDS Tire Slayer Studios! // Build Breakdown

Johnny Rotten
April 30, 2023 4:34 pm

JCsays:
April 30, 2023 at 2:33 pm

And you live in Sictoria. What a good place for you and Dan the Dustbin Man to be in. GFY.

Chris
Chris
April 30, 2023 4:36 pm

Chris at 12:58 – WA (and Australia) has a long history of diverting mineral riches into monumental projects from similarly monumental egos. The Cottesloe Civic Centre is perhaps the best example. Much of UWA and the Paris end of Collins St would fall into the same category.

Indeed! And even worse at the local government level. All those Royalties for Regions building sports centres that will send their local councils broke with staff salaries and maintenance costs, but represent a ‘legacy’ for the Shire President who got the funding for construction.

But the Cottesloe Civic Centre was built (redeveloped) as Claude de Bernales’ private mansion, I had understood.

More examples:
Optus Stadium
Victoria Quay (Unbelievable f—wittedness)
Perth Arena
Challenge Stadium, and the subsequent new stadiums for basketball, netball, rugger…
Perth Convention Centre
The Bell Tower (a snip at $51M, Richard Court housing the old bells of St Martin in the Fields gifted to the State)
Perth Cultural Centre (Charles Court, actually looked pretty visionary)

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 30, 2023 4:39 pm

callisays:
April 30, 2023 at 4:08 pm
Only Homer, has responded, to state only that batteries are not currently economic. Silence from the rest. It is a good tactic to shut them up, at least for a while.

Homer is correct. The only way for them to be economic is for the taxpayer to subsidise them, the cost of electricity goes stratospheric…or widespread crippling blackouts (which make them a trade-off for inconvenience).

Indeed he is, but that did not cause him to look at the wider implications of ruinables. All it did was make him drop the subject. I have no doubt that he is still a Gerbil Worming fanatic.

Chris
Chris
April 30, 2023 4:39 pm

Dover, are you slowly giving up on democratic systems? The primary system is to allow the faithful to decide on their nominee.

Or the opposition to set up the most beatable hate figure as candidate!

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 30, 2023 4:41 pm

Royalties for Regions is the ultimate blank cheque. No money for pool maintenance but you can have a new leisure centre.

Vicki
Vicki
April 30, 2023 4:41 pm

solar panels on the roof, battery by the house, EV in the garage, and disconnect from the grid.

The irony is that we may very well end up with all of these – despite being supreme Global Warming Sceptics!

We already have a 10kw solar system, & are seeking installer for a switch to disconnect from the grid during energy cuts (even though this will negate a current substantial discount of our city/country electricity bill). We already have a petrol generator for non solar supply, but would purchase a battery for a reasonable price. Finally, I am happy to “hold my nose” & purchase a small EV for the likely event that petrol and diesel supplies may one day be cut off to this country by China.

Am I wrong on any of these precautions to survive in the coming years?

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
April 30, 2023 4:41 pm

Yowee.

No frills bread at Woolworths, yesterday $1.80 a loaf, this afternoon $2.40. Yeah but keep telling us inflation is a tad above 5% jugs ears…

JC
JC
April 30, 2023 4:41 pm

Wodney, stop trying to sound all tough and aggressive, you little limey worm. Go see how your ladyboy is going.

One other thing, I noticed yesterday you are against immigration. Just to remind people here, you’re a limey shop steward import and your sidekick is a Thai ladyboy? Is any part of this incorrect?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 30, 2023 4:42 pm

wivenhoesays:
April 29, 2023 at 4:15 pm

Hi wivenhoe good to see you

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 30, 2023 4:45 pm

Perf netball centre and the Bendat basketball centre are pretty well utilised. Netball traffic has just fired up for the season. Hopefully the fines will keep a lid on my rates.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
April 30, 2023 4:49 pm

LOL commenters at Michael Smith referring to Albo as Mr Magoo. I like that.

Zatara
Zatara
April 30, 2023 4:50 pm

Am I wrong on any of these precautions to survive in the coming years?

Vicki, I’ve considered all of those and a few others, to include a windmill for bore water and possibly to turn a generator.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 30, 2023 4:51 pm

Rugby WA headquarters has got to be the greatest edifice building since Coles built the Battlestar Galactica.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 30, 2023 4:59 pm

Sport always figures highly on the bread and circuses expenditure, although it was good to see Albo and Gillon McPolo-Pony getting some blowback on the latest pissing it against the wall exercise in Tasmania.

Vicki
Vicki
April 30, 2023 5:00 pm

Vicki, I’ve considered all of those and a few others, to include a windmill for bore water and possibly to turn a generator.

Yes Zatara, the damn bore pump failed a few months ago when it failed to reset after a blackout. We have 5 troughs fed by the bore. We generally deny the cattle access to the creek and the dam as we are doing regenerative work – so the bore is critical. Things may change in the near future.

Johnny Rotten
April 30, 2023 5:00 pm

JCsays:
April 30, 2023 at 4:41 pm
Wodney, stop trying to sound all tough and aggressive, you little limey worm. Go see how your ladyboy is going.

LOL. You T.W.A.T. A limey is what a USA’n will call an English person. You, as a short arse wap obviously didn’t learn much at Skool in MelBum. South of the Border and Mexico is a great place for you. Your ladyboy is Dot of Dottiness and the next one is Mrs Stencho Pantyhose. Have fun with those two while you are bending over looking for your……………………………

One other thing, I noticed yesterday you are against immigration. Just to remind people here, you’re a limey shop steward import and your sidekick is a Thai ladyboy? Is any part of this incorrect?

Vicki
Vicki
April 30, 2023 5:03 pm

DeSantis is a untested, federally, it would be silly for him to be so proud this early on.

Oh come on, Dover! So was Trump.

132andBush
132andBush
April 30, 2023 5:06 pm

DeSantis is a untested, federally, it would be silly for him to be so proud this early on.

And Trump was…?

JC
JC
April 30, 2023 5:07 pm

Wodney

Yes, I’m well aware that a “limey” is how Americans refer to a low rent un-showered “pom” like yourself. But that alone wasn’t the point of my comment. I find it ironic that an undesirable import such as yourself (and your ladyboy) would be offering an opinion on curtailing immigration, you little limey worm.

132andBush
132andBush
April 30, 2023 5:07 pm

Snap, Vicki.

JC
JC
April 30, 2023 5:09 pm

DeSantis is a untested, federally, it would be silly for him to be so proud this early on.

Well, let the punters decide. The very big risk with Trump is his age and it’s dumb to ignore it.

Johnny Rotten
April 30, 2023 5:10 pm

Time for some more Armstrong for Jerk Off Cretin and his/her/its followers –

The Banking Crisis Of All Time

QUESTION: Mr. Armstrong, Your knowledge and database on financial crises is really unprecedented. I googled the first banking crisis and it brought up only the Crisis of 1763, which started in Amsterdam. Yet that list published in the WSJ which showed 1683 as the first panic and the siege of Vienna was most interesting. I know you have written about the sovereign defaults on the ancient central bank in Delos. My question is, was there any major financial banking crisis between antiquity and 1683? I figured if anyone would know, he had to be you.

PF

ANSWER: As the 13th century unfolded, the cost of endless Crusades burdened both the crowns of England and France. Throughout the remainder of the 13th century, a variety of Crusades were aimed not so much at toppling Muslim forces in the Holy Land but to combat any and all groups seen as enemies of the Christian faith. Edward I of England began his reign in 1275 with heavy debts incurred from the Crusades.

These endless wars resulted in the time of major sovereign defaults by Edward I of England and Philip IV of France. In 1275, Edward secured a financial monopoly and negotiated a grant of export duties on wool, woolfells, and hides that brought in an average of £10,000 a year. He then used this as collateral to borrow substantially from Italian bankers granting them the security of these customs revenues to fund his endless wars of aggression.

Edward imposed heavy taxes on the value of movable goods. At the beginning of this Wave 850, Edward defaulted on his loans from the English Jewish bankers, and then as 1290 began, to cover that default he expelled all of the Jews from England and confiscated all their property.

Moreover, this was the Edward Langshakes of the movie “Brave Heart” when in 1291 he attacked Scotland all for money. As this 8.6-year Wave 850 peaked, Edward launched his very costly war against Philip IV (1295-1314) of France which lasted until the end of this 8.6-year wave when it came to an end in 1297.

The Riccardi of Lucca was perhaps one of the major international merchant banking houses to emerge during the 13th century. The Riccardi established branches in Rome, Bordeaux, Paris, Flanders, London, York, and Dublin, Ireland. They engaged in trade with Edward I of England. Prior to 1272, the English kings were customers of the Italian merchant who had exotic imports as they were purchasing luxury goods and would use them to transfer money to Rome. With the outbreak of war against Philip IV in 1294, a major credit crunch and inflation erupted which impacted the entire international money markets throughout Europe at the time. The value of gold rose against silver from 10:1 to virtually 15:1, which was a monumental distortion of the European monetary system as a consequence of these endless wars.

Cash-strapped, Edward sought financial support from the Riccardi establishment but they refused to lend him any funds. In response, Edward seized all of Riccardi’s assets in England, effectively bankrupting them. The Riccardi had derived significant benefits in dealing with the English monarchy. They held contracts with special access to the English wool market. The Riccardi banking establishment was involved in about 50% of all the forward contracts with English wool producers, which were in effect futures contracts in the cash market. When Edward confiscated all the assets of the Riccardi, his action backfired. Nobody else would then deal with England in international money markets. This led Edward I to impose heavy levels of domestic taxation, which led to civil unrest. This led to a constitutional crisis in 1297.

We all may know that Magna Carta established rights that were forced on King John on June 15th, 1215. After John’s death, the regency government of his young son, Henry III, reissued the document in 1216, but it removed some of its more radical content. This led to civil unrest and at the end of the war in 1217, it became part of the peace treaty when it acquired the name “Magna Carta.” Henry III was compelled to reissue the charter again in 1225 in exchange for a grant of new taxes. Edward I was his son who was then once more compelled to reaffirm the Magna Carta in 1297 at the end of the 8.6-year Wave 850. That is when Edward I was forced to confirm that the Magna Carta was England’s statute law. That is when it actually became England’s rule of law.

The Bonsignori bank was known as the Gran Tavola, which had become the most powerful of the Italian merchant banking firms throughout Europe between 1255 and 1298. The Gran Tavola was indeed the greatest bank of the 13th century with branches in Paris, Marseille, Genoa, Bologna, and Pisa in addition to the main office in Siena. They fell victim to Philip IV of France.

Philip IV of France was also strapped for funds. He chose the debasement of the coinage which was massive. Philip had no other course of action to meet the expenses of the war. He began with a massive debasement of the coinage. Silver began to migrate out of France. This debasement only accelerated after 1298 when Philip IV confiscated all the assets Italian bank known as the Gran Tavola in France on claims that they owed him money, without netting anything with respect to his loans owed to them.

This seizure of the Gran Tavola caused a major banking crisis in 1298 with the collapse of the institution which also held funds for the Papacy resulting in their loss of 80,000 gold florins. This was the first Banking Panic post-Dark Age. This confiscation of assets wiped out Siena and the city never again rose to the forefront of European commerce. By 1320, Siena was no longer a significant city in international commerce whatsoever which was a direct attack on the Papacy by Philip IV. This resulted in shifting the banking power to Florence.

A full-blown financial panic unfolded as silver migrated overseas. People hoarded the old currency and by 1301 there was virtually no silver remaining in the open market in France. Currency depreciation let Philip cover the cost of the war but it destroyed the credit of France and that ultimately led to France seizing the Papacy and strip-mining all its assets moving the Church to Avignon where a French Pope was installed.

It was this political French Pope who then ordered the seizure of all the assets of the Knights Templar and burned all those who resisted alive. The Knights Templar were effectively an international transfer agent. If you were in France and needed to pay someone in Italy, you gave the money to the local office in France and they instructed the brank in Italy to pay. It was a 13th-century version of a wire transfer service. That is why the French crown seized the Knights and strip-mined all their wealth as well.

Obviously, this Banking Crisis of 1298 was far beyond anything most people would have read about in a financial crisis. This is what I mean when I warn that those in power will do WHATEVER it takes to retain power, and religion never means anything at the end of the day.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/banking-crisis/the-banking-crisis-of-all-time/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Winston Smith
April 30, 2023 5:11 pm

Cassie of Sydney:

Should I have any sympathy for him? I don’t.

Nor I. But I’d be curious about the two participants. Sunni or Shia? And Australia getting the blame.
Hmmm.
More info needed – much more info.
This would be nice to know a bit more about as well:

In June 2017, he posted on social media that he had been issued a certificate from the Ministry of Internally Displaced Persons from the Occupied Territories, Accommodation and Refugees of Georgia, and began describing himself as a refugee. He told his 37 Twitter followers that he had been given refugee status for knowledge of corruption and had provided intelligence, without stating to whom or about which country.
He also posted a photograph of himself outside the State Security Service in Tbilisi, Georgia, saying that he dreamt of working for that agency.

Muddy
Muddy
April 30, 2023 5:13 pm

You’re on Shark Tank, pitching your product – Conservatism.
You’ve introduced yourself, stated what you’re offering, and given a quick description of your product.
One of the Sharks wants to know what differentiates Conservatism from the other major competitor in your market (which appears to have an impressive market share right now), and what their return on investment will be if they choose to commit.
How do you respond to this specific question?

Muddy
Muddy
April 30, 2023 5:14 pm

Bollocks. Misspelled my email. Sorry Dover!
Let me try this again:

You’re on Shark Tank, pitching your product – Conservatism.
You’ve introduced yourself, stated what you’re offering, and given a quick description of your product.
One of the Sharks wants to know what differentiates Conservatism from the other major competitor in your market (which appears to have an impressive market share right now), and what their return on investment will be if they choose to commit.
How do you respond to this specific question?

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 30, 2023 5:15 pm

The Paywallian Media Diary has a bit on Albo at the Sandilands wedding. The bride seems quite pretty. Does she have an OnlyFans page?

JC
JC
April 30, 2023 5:16 pm

Wodney,

Honest, dinky dye question.

Is Marty still on parole?

JC
JC
April 30, 2023 5:23 pm

They will still go through the motions but if DeSantis is 30 or more pts behind at the end of the year why would you pursue a bruising run in the primaries?

Well who decides then, polls? And why assume DeSantis would be the presumptive challenger? The more the merrier.

Polls are meaningless at the point in time anyway.

You will burn whatever goodwill MAGA supporters had for you and destroy your future Presidential propects, while the Dems will capitalise on the internal division and 2024 will be bloodbath.

Yea, naaaa. It wouldn’t turn into a bloodbath because DeSantis or anyone else was the challenger. Youngkin, a couple of the decent senators could be running. Folks want to see them.

Johnny Rotten
April 30, 2023 5:24 pm

Yes, I’m well aware that a “limey” is how Americans refer to a low rent un-showered “pom” like yourself. But that alone wasn’t the point of my comment. I find it ironic that an undesirable import such as yourself (and your ladyboy) would be offering an opinion on curtailing immigration, you little limey worm.

I don’t think that you are very aware of SFA actually. Why would you think that I am against Immigration? You in Sictoria, can have all the Chinks, Indians and everyone else with Dan the Dustbin Man. Just don’t send them north to NSW and the best parts of Australia.

You little short arse wap. BTW please keep taking those tablets for the arrogance gene issue that you still seem to have………………………..

JC
JC
April 30, 2023 5:24 pm

Dover

The other thing is that if Trump really is 30 points ahead, the others will quickly drop out of the race anyway and the primaries would be a formality.

Razey
Razey
April 30, 2023 5:25 pm

Rotten, give it up on Armstrong and his 80s DOS computer. He’s a scammer. No one here will be convinced reposting his garbage.

Rabz
April 30, 2023 5:26 pm

This week’s week in pictures is indescribably awesome, thanks, Tommy.

Gov Cooper, announcing school will remain closed through summer … 🙂

Winston Smith
April 30, 2023 5:29 pm

132andbush:

Bruce,
Please define what is legitimate and who gets to define it?

I can answer that one as well, 132.
The individual defines what is legitimate and what actions they are to take.

JC
JC
April 30, 2023 5:29 pm

Wodney, okay whatever about immigration. But focus of the other point.

Is Marty still on parole?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 30, 2023 5:30 pm

Classis clips. Gorgeous females!

A great song also.

———-

Fool (If You Think It’s Over) ? CHRIS REA

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 30, 2023 5:30 pm

Vickisays:
April 30, 2023 at 4:41 pm
solar panels on the roof, battery by the house, EV in the garage, and disconnect from the grid.

The irony is that we may very well end up with all of these – despite being supreme Global Warming Sceptics!

Am I wrong on any of these precautions to survive in the coming years?

No, you are taking sensible precautions against the stupidities that Gerbil Worming fanatics are imposing.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 30, 2023 5:31 pm

Bruce,
Please define what is legitimate and who gets to define it?

An example.

Representative to file bill to allow Texas to secede from United States (Dec 2020)

While I don’t know the Florida law or constitution it seems likely that the Florida legislature might vote for such a bill also if circumstances were appropriate.

Then if a militia is called up the rest is history.

Johnny Rotten
April 30, 2023 5:33 pm

And even more Armstrong for Jerk Off Cretin and his/her/its Lady Boys to swallow……………

INTERVIEW – WORLD WAR 3 IS WHAT “THEY” WANT AND ARE ON TRACK TO GET IT

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrong-in-the-media/interview-world-war-3-is-what-they-want-and-are-on-track-to-get-it/

Rabz
April 30, 2023 5:33 pm

Tucker Carlsoni is a controversial right wing conspiracy theorist fan boy of Fatty Trump

err, this is a bad thing?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 30, 2023 5:37 pm

Spelling….a c missing.

132andBush
132andBush
April 30, 2023 5:38 pm

Winston,
No. Just no.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 30, 2023 5:42 pm

Sorry for the misattribution, Bruce. Quote was from Winston, in reply to a comment of mine you were also replying to. It sits well with your view that DeSantis won’t run though.

Some pillow-talk with Hairy: Trump won bigly better than anyone ever had done before, and without ‘fortification’ like Biden had. He can do it again, as long as the voting system is highly guarded by vigilant R’s. Hairy is so persuasive that I’m almost convinced. But not quite. 🙂

Apropos of things changing in the next four years cruelling any run DeSantis might make then, today’s Outsiders mentioned Ramaswami’s hat in the ring, one of an emergent brand of Republican youthful firebrands waiting in the wings and wanting MAGA PLUS for themselves, with some redemptive policies many of us here would cheer on. The yoof zeitgeist may be on the move, as I alluded above that it could be. As always in the rat race to the top, the younger fleeter rats are never far behind.

Chris
Chris
April 30, 2023 5:42 pm

Perf netball centre and the Bendat basketball centre are pretty well utilised. Netball traffic has just fired up for the season. Hopefully the fines will keep a lid on my rates.

Yes its actually great that the amateur sports got some decent facilities and actually use them.
One of the new edifices that ISN’T doing well is the new WARA rifle range at Pinjar. Fullbore clubs average about 102 yrs age members (rather like my club), and between Swanbourne closing and getting the new one up was flamin’ years. Half the membership dropped off the perch or lost their drivers licenses to old age in that time.
For the kids, the demolition of the Claremont Police and Citizens wiped out a brilliant airgun target range with a dedicated Junior team coached by the Masters. There is nothing from way out South to way out North. Should be able to replace it in the Western Suburbs, for instance in a corner of the sports fields redeveloped somewhere between Challenge Stadium and Perry Lakes.

Muddy
Muddy
April 30, 2023 5:44 pm

What is winning?
Seriously.
How do conservatives define winning?

Zatara
Zatara
April 30, 2023 5:50 pm

People need to stop seeing one Gov. do well at state level and extrapolate from there federally. We’ve seen this with Jeb, Christie, and so on.

Carter, Reagan, Clinton, and GW Bush went from Gov to Pres so not sure that’s a valid call.

DeSantis has also had a term as a US Congressman.

Muddy
Muddy
April 30, 2023 5:50 pm

What is winning in a divorce, where your former spouse has stated explicitly that she/he intends to re-upholster her/his favourite recliner in what remains of your hopes and dreams?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
April 30, 2023 5:52 pm

Am I wrong on any of these precautions to survive in the coming years?

No, you are taking sensible precautions against the stupidities that Gerbil Worming fanatics are imposing.

We will be relying on urban subsistence camping at home.
In the hope that it will only be sporadic.
If long term, might consider getting some chickens and a goat.
Fruit trees in the lower garden are now delivering fruit: lemons, guavas, figs.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 30, 2023 5:53 pm
calli
calli
April 30, 2023 5:53 pm

I define “winning” as creating an environment where every person has the freedom to fulfil their potential, unshackled by government restriction and informed by conscience.

Now, back to the real world…less government. Much. Less. Government.

C.L.
C.L.
April 30, 2023 5:56 pm

Not endorsing RFK but the thing that struck me about the Tablet interview was the recall, the breadth and the depth of his knowledge – and the purposeful, humanitarian gist of his worldview.

An interview with Trump or DeSantis is just dumbo-land in comparison.

Turning to Trump, when I see him now, he has a Whitlam running in ’77 vibe.

calli
calli
April 30, 2023 5:56 pm

What is winning in a divorce, where your former spouse has stated explicitly that she/he intends to re-upholster her/his favourite recliner in what remains of your hopes and dreams?

Walking away, leaving them to it…and realising that you are able to re-write the story of your life.

And then doing it.

Razey
Razey
April 30, 2023 5:56 pm

How do conservatives define winning?

1. Public Service term limits.

2. Psychological testing for all politicians.

3. 80% reduction of snouts in the trough.

Vicki
Vicki
April 30, 2023 5:57 pm

Dr. Malcolm Kendrick has written the best examination of the statin deception.

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org

Black Ball
Black Ball
April 30, 2023 5:59 pm

And just like that, Bitchmond’s season has gone down the gurgler.

Vicki
Vicki
April 30, 2023 6:00 pm

2 books:

M. Kendrick: “The ClotThickens” & “TheGreat Cholesterol Con”.

Muddy
Muddy
April 30, 2023 6:01 pm

Narrowing it down:
How do Conservatives define winning in the competition of (socio-political) ideologies?

calli
calli
April 30, 2023 6:02 pm

My favourite meme for when it all gets too much.

Try it. You’ll like it.

Chris
Chris
April 30, 2023 6:02 pm

What is winning in a divorce, where your former spouse has stated explicitly that she/he intends to re-upholster her/his favourite recliner in what remains of your hopes and dreams?

and

How do conservatives define winning?

I have no ambition to feature in divorce stats, but in or out of that situation taking responsibility for my own happiness, living an upright life and letting my kids grow up to be the outstanding adults I find them to be is all win.

Zatara
Zatara
April 30, 2023 6:04 pm

An interview with Trump or DeSantis is just dumbo-land in comparison.

Not saying RFK isn’t impressive but he is fresh and un-bruised so far. Let the Dems inc. see him as a threat and turn their machine on him to see how composed and impressive he reamins.

DeSantis on the other hand has been running a state and jousting with the woke for a few years and Trump has had his daily fights with the Dem demons to deal with.

Rabz
April 30, 2023 6:05 pm

How do conservatives define winning?

I’m not a conservative, Muds.

To me, the future is about obliterating anything “conservatives” might have thought worth preserving.

According to my good friend Cassie, that makes me an “Anarchist”.

It’s all about an absolute nuclear demolition job on allegedly sacred institutions that results in lengthy reconstruction from the ground up.

“Obliteration” in this case meaning that nothing of the obliterated remains. Here are some examples:
– The ALPBC
– Braindead lamestream meeja, especially FTA television
– The bureaucracy
– Monoversities
– Corporations
– Every other festering hive lurked in by collectivists

That should cover it – with a pillow. Until it stops breathing.

Diogenes
Diogenes
April 30, 2023 6:06 pm

The grumbling from Mum and Dad landlords is getting louder.

Listening to the table talk in the staffroom, 3 have already given their tenants notice to vacate as they intend to sell. Between Pileoshits rental laws, and increase in costs not matched by capital gains, and tenants issuing breach notices because things are not being fixed fast enough (tradie shortage) they have had enough. Another 2 say they will wait until the new tax year to pull the pin on their rentals, one owns 5 investment properties!

calli
calli
April 30, 2023 6:07 pm

You’re in good company, Rabz. I’m an anarcho-capitalist.

Rabz
April 30, 2023 6:09 pm
Vicki
Vicki
April 30, 2023 6:10 pm

Many of you know of the indefatigable work of Dr. Phillip Altman to have the Covid mRNA vaccines withdrawn. I know this man well & recommend his Substack to those who closely follow the vaccine debacle. This is his most recent post.

Q: WHEN IS A “VACCINE” NOT A “VACCINE”
A: When it does not prevent infection or transmission of infection
PHILLIP.ALTMAN
APR 30

As reported in Trial Site News on 26 April 2023:
“Recently, during the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) contemplated changes to the COVID-19 vaccine status, they elicited a commenting period. An organization called the Coalition Advocating for Adequately Labeled Medicines (CAALM) tracked by TrialSite filed a petition requesting that the agency update the COVID-19 vaccine product labeling –for both Pfizer and Moderna products—to reflect their actual safety and efficacy more accurately.”

In response the FDA declared, “FDA authorization and licensure standards for vaccines do not require demonstration of the prevention of infection or transmission”. A “vaccine” can meet the EUA standard without any evidence that the vaccine prevents infection or transmission.

I have great respect for the contribution that Sasha Latypova is making to the COVID debate. She, like myself, once owned a Contract Research Organisation and worked as a consultant supplying clinical and regulatory support to multinational pharmaceutical companies.

There has been an enormous amount of independently generated data and expert opinion presented at various forums and online regarding this topic. The lack of application of Good Manufacturing Practice guidelines in the rush to bring the COVID “vaccines” to market appears to have resulted in many batches containing dangerous levels of contaminants including circular DNA called plasmids used in the manufacture of the mRNA by bacterial fermentation which could have considerable intergenerational genetic consequences yet to be determined.

However, there are other contaminants which are also of great concern and these include compounds called endotoxins which are lipopolysaccharides in the cell wall of Gram negative bacteria. These endotoxins appear to be responsible for the endotoxic shock cases reported in association with these injections. Endotoxins might be responsible for cases of immediate fatal toxicity. Spike protein takes days for the body to ramp up in production and it is reasonable to assume this is the probable cause of sub-acute or longer term toxicity.

In order to counter the speculation about poor batch to batch quality control of the “vaccines”, the TGA spin doctors have taken the highly unusual step of issuing a report of batch analyses in an attempt to quell concern and instil confidence in the safety of the injections.

To the untrained eye, this might impress…..it does not impress me. It shows no details of limits of specifications or actual results. We know that the unusually wide limits for mRNA content of the injections far exceeds those normally accepted by the pharmaceutical industry. But the endotoxin levels in these injections is critical also. What is being allowed in terms of endotoxin levels?

Many have reported a relatively high incidence of serious adverse events and death associated with about 7% of injection batches.

JC
JC
April 30, 2023 6:11 pm

Youngkin would get smashed. People need to stop seeing one Gov. do well at state level and extrapolate from there federally. We’ve seen this with Jeb, Christie, and so on.

And yet, for masses of time it’s former governors who are the primary winners.

C.L.
C.L.
April 30, 2023 6:12 pm

I’m not a conservative…

Words to live and demolish by.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 30, 2023 6:14 pm

How do conservatives define winning?
1. Public Service term limits.
2. Psychological testing for all politicians.
3. 80% reduction of snouts in the trough.

Here you go:

“The eight new members of the Ottawa County Board of Commissioners had run for office promising to ‘thwart tyranny’ in their lakeside Michigan community of 300,000 people.

“In this case the oppressive force they aimed to thwart was the county government they now ran. It was early January, their first day in charge. An American flag held down a spot at the front of the board’s windowless meeting room. Sea-foam green carpet covered the floor.

“The new commissioners, all Republicans, swore their oaths of office on family Bibles. And then the firings began. Gone was the lawyer who had represented Ottawa County for 40 years. Gone was the county administrator who oversaw a staff of 1,800. To run the health department, they voted to install a service manager from a local HVAC company who had gained prominence as a critic of mask mandates.”

I suspect these 8 Republicans were MAGA Trumpies with a serious Rabzish outlook on things!
I like their style.

Linky (29 Apr)

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 30, 2023 6:19 pm

Should be able to replace it in the Western Suburbs, for instance in a corner of the sports fields redeveloped somewhere between Challenge Stadium and Perry Lakes.

Most of that land is tied up between UWA and the State government. I wouldn’t be too optimistic. Pinjar is a bit of a hike. More of a day trip.

Muddy
Muddy
April 30, 2023 6:20 pm

Our our (ideological) opponents aiming for a win-win outcome?
Co-existence? Compromise?
Do they want us to be happy?

Muddy
Muddy
April 30, 2023 6:22 pm

ARE not Our x 2.
*Sigh*
That Chateau Sulo is getting to me.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 30, 2023 6:23 pm

What is winning in a divorce, where your former spouse has stated explicitly that she/he intends to re-upholster her/his favourite recliner in what remains of your hopes and dreams?

Getting the dog.

Muddy
Muddy
April 30, 2023 6:25 pm

That should cover it – with a pillow. Until it stops breathing.

I like your thinkin’ Rabz.
It’s a competition, not group therapy.

MatrixTransform
April 30, 2023 6:28 pm

How do Conservatives define winning in the competition of (socio-political) ideologies?

Bumper crop off the single olive tree that we have espaliered along the driveway.

6 litres of hand selected, unblemished, perfect Kalamata winnowed from the 8 litres that were picked

I notched every single one by hand with a knife sharpened especially for the job

A couple of weeks on fresh water changed every 2 days and then into brine for a few weeks before vinegar and water for storage.

there is no competition

Roger
Roger
April 30, 2023 6:28 pm

If RFK Jr won the nomination, he’d actually win a fair bit of MAGA vote in rust belt states.

That’s an incredibly big “if”.

Ask Bernie Sanders how things turned out for him.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 30, 2023 6:29 pm

If RFK Jr won the nomination

Dem voters want a vegetable.

Biden Leads RFK Jr. by 60 Points Among Democratic Primary Voters (11 Apr)

Seven in 10 potential Democratic primary voters said they would support Biden for re-nomination, while 10% said they would vote for Kennedy and 4% said they would back self-help author Marianne Williamson, according to the April 7-9 survey.

Zombies following the biggest zombie. Brains!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 30, 2023 6:30 pm
Zatara
Zatara
April 30, 2023 6:32 pm

Bad day for the Dem cheating machine.

North Carolina Supreme Court just approved a photo ID requirement to vote and granted the Republicans victory in their redistricting fight.

The court on Friday also overturned a trial court decision on when the voting rights of convicted felons can be restored. That means potentially tens of thousands of people convicted of felonies will have to keep waiting to completed their probation or parole or pay their fines to qualify to vote again.

Chipping away at it in the US.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 30, 2023 6:33 pm

Bruce of Newcastle at 6:14 – sounds like they’re not the appoint Martin Parkinson to PM&C types. More Ironbar Tuckey sorts. The Lieborals could do with more (any really) of these.

132andBush
132andBush
April 30, 2023 6:35 pm

What is winning?
Seriously.
How do conservatives define winning?

Monty in tears.

Chris
Chris
April 30, 2023 6:36 pm

Most of that land is tied up between UWA and the State government. I wouldn’t be too optimistic. Pinjar is a bit of a hike. More of a day trip.

Yes and yes. 40 minutes up the freeway from the ancestral pile. I may get jack of it soon.

Roger
Roger
April 30, 2023 6:36 pm

To me, the future is about obliterating anything “conservatives” might have thought worth preserving.

Your list includes nothing conservatives consider worth preserving, Rabz.

(I wouldn’t want you labouring under any misconceptions in this matter.)

Roger
Roger
April 30, 2023 6:41 pm

Beside the point…

Not when you put “If” at the beginning a sentence, it isn’t.

bespoke
bespoke
April 30, 2023 6:49 pm

There is a growing weariness against political dynasties, Dover.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 30, 2023 6:51 pm

In a pleasing return to form, my observations on Albo at the Sandilands wedding were rejected at Teh Paywallian. I was getting worried for a while there.

Alamak!
Alamak!
April 30, 2023 6:58 pm

NO. Donald Trump is many things, ‘senile’ is not one of them. You’re entitled to your opinion of Donald Trump but to imply he is “senile” is both absurd and preposterous.

Cassie, apologies – I was not accurate in my comments re Trump and senility. He is lazy on detail, careless on legal risk and unable to covert his previous electoral gains into substantial change but so far he is not senile.

Anyways, it seems many here like the Donald and dislike Biden, but not able to share data/facts/evidence. Relying more on the noise & fury from USA political circus which is not a source of truth I rely on.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 30, 2023 6:59 pm

Ghee whiz, this bloke has ramped up his clips.

Enjoy the show. I rate it over tv.

Cafe De Anatolia – Morocco (Best Deep House | DJ Mix 2023)

Roger
Roger
April 30, 2023 7:00 pm

There is a growing weariness against political dynasties, Dover.

That being said, and without defending everything he’s said, RFK Jr. is more than capable of standing on his own merit.

Razey
Razey
April 30, 2023 7:01 pm

my observations on Albo

Post it here 🙂

Roger
Roger
April 30, 2023 7:05 pm

Why would you contest that part, rather than the part which is up for debate?

Because it’s hypothetical, I’m older than you and thus my time is limited. 😀

When RFK Jr. gets the Democratic nomination we might profitably discuss what portion of the MAGA vote he might get, depending on who he’s running against.

Muddy
Muddy
April 30, 2023 7:05 pm

Steve trickler says:
April 30, 2023 at 6:30 pm

Noice. Thanks.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 30, 2023 7:05 pm

In this climate, anything that doesn’t include an element of organised, tangible, kinetic-energy-laden “push back” that leads the evil woke to think twice about “trying it on” is a waste of time.
And thus, here we are…

The Greenwich-incited noodle-armed, soy-things that protested at Mark Latham’s speaking at a Church venue on Religious Freedom found that some muscular religiosity showed their ‘trying it on” was a waste of time, and some got a pounding into the bargain.

bons
bons
April 30, 2023 7:09 pm

You won’t believe, but Stoker is on fire tonight. I may need to review my biases.

‘Always believing the ABC’.

Dot
Dot
April 30, 2023 7:10 pm

bespoke says:
April 30, 2023 at 1:41 pm

“This is the way” !

This is the way.

This is the way.

bespoke
bespoke
April 30, 2023 7:11 pm

RFK Jr. is more than capable of standing on his own merit.

He won’t be given a chance, Roger. America’s royal family has lots of skeletons.

Dot
Dot
April 30, 2023 7:11 pm

Cassie, apologies – I was not accurate in my comments re Trump and senility. He is lazy on detail, careless on legal risk and unable to covert his previous electoral gains into substantial change but so far he is not senile.

Biden is senile and can authorise nuclear strikes.

MatrixTransform
April 30, 2023 7:15 pm

To me, the future is about obliterating anything “conservatives” might have thought worth preserving.

step away from the olives and nobody gets hurt

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 30, 2023 7:17 pm

Razey, it was a reflection on how they both seem to diminish the other. And some potentially gratuitous observations on the nature of class in modern Australia.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 30, 2023 7:19 pm

The hyphenated barrel stuffers lose to the
dental denialists by one point.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 30, 2023 7:21 pm

The umps recreated a nostalgic Adelaide Oval feel by awarding frees 28-18 the Crows way.

Winston Smith
April 30, 2023 7:21 pm

Dot:

Biden is senile and can authorise nuclear strikes.

The flip side of that is that he’s senile and can refuse to authorise nuclear strikes.

Zatara
Zatara
April 30, 2023 7:27 pm

The flip side of that is that he’s senile and can refuse to authorise nuclear strikes.

On the plus side, no nuke strikes will be authorized prior to 9 AM as he sleeps late every day.

True story, his staff stuffed up and admitted it.

Rabz
April 30, 2023 7:28 pm

Cats, this is not alleviating those jagged edges … 🙁

When you’re down
When you’re the street
When evening falls so hard
I will comfort you
I’ll take your part
When darkness comes
And pain is all, is all around
Just like a bridge
Over troubled water
I will lay me down …

Black Ball
Black Ball
April 30, 2023 7:34 pm

Collingwood are just a very good side.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 30, 2023 7:34 pm

Muddysays:
April 30, 2023 at 6:20 pm
Our our (ideological) opponents aiming for a win-win outcome?
Co-existence? Compromise?
Do they want us to be happy?

More of a they win, we lose program. They care not for our happiness, as long as they have absolute authority over every aspect of our lives, in accordance with whatever the latest fad might be.

Razey
Razey
April 30, 2023 7:36 pm

Collingwood

Where having more than 5 adult teeth left is considered ‘over crowding’. 😉

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 30, 2023 7:36 pm

Pies atop the AFL ladder.

Just as God intended.

Rabz
April 30, 2023 7:36 pm

’twas the talk of the town

52 seconds in – indescribable graphic design.

Dot
Dot
April 30, 2023 7:38 pm

God intends for the AFL minor premiers to party with Tina and drive recklessly on inter city highways.

bespoke
bespoke
April 30, 2023 7:40 pm

Jacinta Price’s ad for the no vote is very good.

calli
calli
April 30, 2023 7:42 pm

Just saw a “yes” ad on SBS. The argument appears to be that the 122 year old Constitution doesn’t recognise indigenous Australians.

Probably because the people who framed it simply recognised “Australians”.

Gabor
Gabor
April 30, 2023 7:44 pm

Rabz says:
April 30, 2023 at 6:05 pm

How do conservatives define winning?

I’m not a conservative, Muds.

+100 upsticks for the rest of your comment

Muddy
Muddy
April 30, 2023 7:45 pm

…those jagged edges…

Probably not the style you’re into Rabz, but uplifting nonetheless:
Citizen Soldier featuring Lo Spirit – Limit.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 30, 2023 7:47 pm

Wild brawl in Alice Springs as Northern Territory police chief Jamie Chalker exits

EXCLUSIVE
By LIAM MENDES
Reporter
@liammendes
and KRISTIN SHORTEN
Investigative Journalist
7:30PM April 30, 2023

Shocking scenes of violence have played out on the streets of Alice Springs just as Northern Territory police commissioner Jamie Chalker exits his job, leaving the beleaguered Territory government hunting for a new police chief amid a fresh wave of alcohol-fuelled crime and racial tension.

The government reached a “confidential settlement” with Mr Chalker, who will now retire, following a botched attempt to ­revoke his appointment six months before his contract expired.

The announcement blindsided Northern Territory Police members who were not informed ­before the government released a joint statement with Mr Chalker on Sunday morning, averting a costly and embarrassing Supreme Court stoush.
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The 53-year-old commissioner had been due to serve evidence on Monday in his civil case against Chief Minister Natasha Fyles and Police Minister Kate Worden to prevent his removal.

He was also expected to issue subpoenas for communications between Ms Fyles and Ms Worden over the bungled attempt to push him out.

Deputy Commissioner Michael Murphy will continue in the top job until the recruitment process for Mr Chalker’s replacement is complete.

Mr Chalker’s departure came as police in Alice Springs at the weekend confronted some of the worst violence in recent memory.

In one incident seen and filmed by The Australian from 2.42am on Saturday, officers were forced to storm a takeaway pizza shop with their Tasers drawn in pursuit of youths who had allegedly armed themselves with a kitchen knife after being ­involved in a wild street brawl with caucasian and Indigenous men.

Indigenous senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price said the footage was “plain and simple evidence” that the Northern Territory government “has lost complete control of law and order”.

“That makes my blood curdle to see those sorts of scenes of violence, especially knowing that I’ve got a 24-year-old son who lives in this town,” she said.

“It is evident that this government is failing and if they don’t step in and do what they need to do in terms of what’s been sought of them to ask for assistance from the AFP to restore law and order, then, I’d be urging the Albanese government to intervene.”

Revellers leaving a nightclub in the early hours of Saturday morning fought among each other after an argument escalated into an all-out melee, with a chair used as a weapon. Several individuals who had been involved in the brawl then barricaded themselves inside the pizza shop, with one reported to have grabbed a large kitchen knife, to the horror of shop staff.

Earlier, the group had turned on two caucasian men, one of whom had tried to involve himself in the dispute, brutally bashing them as they lay on the ground.

Police arrived 15 minutes after the first signs of trouble and broke up the brawl, but a panicked pizza shop employee ran outside, calling frantically to the officers.

“There’s a man with a knife ­inside, they are out the back,” the worker said.

The officers entered the building, drawing their Tasers.

“Police, come out, police, come out,” one yelled as they cleared the shop.

Another officer found a man hiding in the rear carpark.

The shop owner told police how she had confronted the man who had taken one of her large pizza knives.

“They just came in, one person, he has so many (knives), he grabbed two, three, I said ‘brother, give me, don’t hold the knife’,” she said. “He just sweared at me and they just ran.”

Senator Price said she had not seen violence to this extent.

“You just can’t expect people in our community to continue to just put up with that level of violence and become desensitised to it.

“We need more police and tougher consequences, especially for recidivism, to deter anti-social behaviour.

“The NT government has to put politics aside and reach out for assistance from the AFP to ­increase police presence.

Muddy
Muddy
April 30, 2023 7:48 pm

Oops. ‘Uplifting’ may not have been the most accurate word.
Same-same.

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