Open Thread- Weekend 6 May 2023


In the Crimea. After a Rain, Fyodor Vasilyev, 1873

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rosie
rosie
May 8, 2023 10:01 pm

Isn’t it Vicki?

I was just wondering how you got to the preposterous suggestion that now is the age where the only acceptable way to feed a new baby in public was via a bottle.

Not to mention the fake premise that women everywhere are making spectacles of themselves which started this discussion.

Jorge
Jorge
May 8, 2023 10:02 pm

Lots of doing and no believing.

The Protestant Coronation through Catholic Eyes

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 8, 2023 10:02 pm

Victorian Bar vice president called to resign over Indigenous voice to parliament stance

Victorian Bar Council vice-president Elizabeth Bennett SC is ­facing mounting pressure to ­resign, following revelations she signed a motion urging the ­association to publicly back the Indigenous voice to parliament.

Ms Bennett and two other council members, Colin Mandy SC and Fiona Livingston-Clark, signed their names to a motion proposing the Bar issue its public and unwavering support for ­Anthony Albanese’s proposed voice model.

The motion called for a special general meeting of all 2200 state Bar members, at which they would vote on a motion that stated: “The Victorian Bar considered that the amendment proposed by the Bill for an Act to alter the Constitution is sound, appropriate and compatible with Australia’s system of representative and ­responsible government which would be enhanced by addition of the voice.”

But senior Bar members told The Australian that by attaching her name to the motion, Ms Bennett had “undermined her independence” as Bar Council vice-president, and should therefore resign immediately.

“It’s deeply concerning that somebody who has adopted a certain ideological position remains as vice-president of the Bar,” said one member, who asked to ­remain anonymous.

“People like Elizabeth Bennett have a view of supporting equality and diversity, but only if it is people who agree with them. This is not the Bar I joined. She should step down.”

As vice-president of the Bar Council, Ms Bennett automatically holds a position on the silk selection committee, referring applicants to the Chief Justice to become senior counsel.

Some Bar members said her decision to publicly back the voice could inhibit anyone applying for silk from giving their view on the issue, fearing that it may clash with hers.

“It’s extremely concerning for anybody applying for silk, and would have a chilling effect on applicants expressing their view, if that doesn’t reinforce her view,” the same member said. “It shows a lack of understanding or respect for the Bar Council process.”

Another Bar member, who also said Ms Bennett should ­resign, added: “By attaching her name to a petition essentially advocating a yes vote, she has lost any sense of impartiality.”

But Ms Bennett told The Australian she respected “the right of all members of the Victorian Bar to take a position on the voice”.

Oz, with interestingly comments open – overwhelmingly negative towards Ms B

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
May 8, 2023 10:04 pm

Steven Trickler
I apologise for the spelling of your name – auto correct.
What hit me about the coronation I was comparing Queen Elizabeth to King Charles.
To me there is no comparison.
Queen Elizabeth was corrinated as queen in her 20s. Big responsibility and she kept her head down and was a great role model.
What occurred to me was successful people I know started out in the 70 and 80s did the following- got married early under 25 , children before 30, went out to start their own business in their 20s.
Responsibility, confidence in one’s self and a adventurous outlook, nothing is perfect which stops you from having a go.

rosie
rosie
May 8, 2023 10:08 pm

And I bet there’s no objection from the same cohort to deliberate exposure of substantial cleavage.
If people are going to say public breastfeeding is unacceptable then perhaps they should also demand an end to the bikini and low cut clothing, all sorts.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 8, 2023 10:20 pm

Music and theft news (the Hun):

Iconic Collingwood pub The Tote has officially been saved from developers and will remain “a live music venue forever” after a 3000-person-strong community crowd-funding campaign raised a mammoth $3m.

That’s a whole pile of other people’s power tools flogged off at the Smith Street Cash Converters.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 8, 2023 10:25 pm

On the issue of breast feeding – some years ago, in Perth, three generations were sitting at a table in a food court. Junior was very quietly, and discreetly being fed. The bogans at the next table realized what was going on, and were leering and nudging each other…Grandmother said very clearly and calmly “What do you think a woman’s breasts are for, in the first place ?”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 8, 2023 10:28 pm

NASA openly and casually discussing stratospheric aerosol spraying and geoengineering by regular planes.

Yeah, I proposed this in 2006. I actually asked and received approval from the company legal advisor.
It’s cheap and effective, far more than anything else. But then I read up on global warming and found the whole thing was garbage. So I didn’t bother doing anything more about it.

I’m sort of amused that nearly two decades later they’re pushing what I proposed to fix something which isn’t happening. I’d appreciate the black humour, except there’s so much money and so many lives at stake. We’re governed by idiots.

Muddy
Muddy
May 8, 2023 10:33 pm

Mr. Squiggle, the Solo Man, Norm from Life, Be In It, and the ghost of Ned Kelly himself, are the latest Australian legends to publicly support a Yes vote for The Vise. Our most famous marsupial, Skippy, has not yet commented, and the head-on-a-stick who once stood for Federal Parliament under a pseudonym, Dickie Knee, is recovering from a nasty accident with a pencil sharpener, but stated via his agent, that “I’ve spent my whole life being supported by someone else, so if others want the satisfaction of a warm hand, why not?”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 8, 2023 10:41 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkccqolaVGg

Grumpy old men rule – “Don’t kill, him, Pug, just don’t kill him!”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 8, 2023 10:42 pm

Drumgold mistakenly saw an opportunity to become the Cochrane of his era, but because he was used to being a big dog in the little yard of furious agreement between political allies, he underestimated the impact his rank stupidity would have when scrutinised by normal people.

Roger mentioned earlier that he had underestimated the stupidity of Drumgold.
Something which is almost impossible to avoid.
It wasn’t the possibility of scrutiny by normal people which bothered him because he never thought that would happen.
He thought the club would protect him.
How’s that working out?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 8, 2023 10:53 pm

Iconic Collingwood pub The Tote has officially been saved from developers and will remain “a live music venue forever” after a 3000-person-strong community crowd-funding campaign raised a mammoth $3m.

Well, maybe.
It seems a couple of likely types reckoned it was worth $6 meg.
They claimed to have $3 meg and wanted to raise the remaining $3 meg via crowd funding.
They did this via a platform called “Pozsible”(?) which seems to run on pledges rather than hard donations (like GoFundMe).
The pub supposedly then goes into a trust to be kept as a “live music venue”.
Not sure how cast iron that is.
Could we trot out a Truckie Troubadour to belt out “Convoy” every Saturday arvo to satisfy the live music requirement?
Last I heard (on 3AW) the owner wanted $6.5 meg.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 8, 2023 10:54 pm

BTW I think this is the third time this century The Tote has been saved.
It is a shithole.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 8, 2023 11:00 pm

An extraordinary marital shitfight on Succession tonight between Shiv and Tom. Worthy of Bergman in Scenes from a Marriage, or Taylor and Burton in Who’s Afraid of Virginia Wolfe. Disturbing but compelling watching. I’m glad that this is the last series. I can’t take too much more of it.

Frank
Frank
May 8, 2023 11:05 pm

Had some pretty good times at the Tote in the nineties. More correctly, some pretty bad times that were enjoyable.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 8, 2023 11:08 pm

Anyway, “Sliante” to all you horrible mob.

We are waiting for the latest round of test results for Mme Zulu, and I’m punishing the single malt.

Night, all.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
May 8, 2023 11:16 pm

Looks like things not going so well for Drumhold.
Good.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 8, 2023 11:24 pm

My dance friends’ gatherings seem to be my equivalent of Calli’s ‘Stitch and Bitch’. That’s likely not well understood here. What is important there is being accepted simply for oneself. Over years.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
May 8, 2023 11:40 pm

From the Courier Mail

The NRL will become Australia’s first major footy code to back the “yes” campaign in the Voice to Parliament referendum, with officials to confirm their position ahead of the league’s Indigenous round.

It can be exclusively revealed the NRL is preparing to announce its support for the Voice on Tuesday, following the Australian Olympic Committee and Tennis Australia as the latest sporting body to throw its support behind the proposal to enshrine an Aboriginal and Torres Strait advisory body in the constitution.

It is understood player groups were due to be briefed ahead of the announcement, which comes two weeks before the NRL’s Indigenous round.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 8, 2023 11:44 pm

But I got the feeling he did not treat the mass or the arch bishop seriously.
Nor the customs nor their traditions. The highlight was the choir.
As the article states it was all about him and not for the country.

The king was both humble and reverential, participating fully in custom and tradition going back well over a thousand years. Service to his country was the essence of it at all times. He is not a Roman Catholic and the communion is symbolic, not transubstantiation as in the Roman Catholic mass. People have given their lives over that difference; respect it.

The Middleton or the Spenser family are the future , the females are the future of the crown and of England and it’s standards. What were all those American Entertainers there. Where was the best orchestra in England, their opera singers , their orators pitching their poetry and great literature.

The affinal relationships (the Middletons and Spensers) are just that, relationships drawn by marriage and while each side makes a contribution to the children and perhaps their upbringing the central element is the Crown inherited by patrilineal descent. Females may inherit it but the House line stays the same. The Gospel Singers were African (Christianity is growing strongly there) and other singers included some beautiful individually sung pieces, as well as the choir (one of Britain’s best) singing from a repertoire that ranged across the full tradition of Western church music. The poetry of the bible and the protestant book of common prayer will do me.

There is a lot of nark in the sort of commentary in these quotes. Unworthy.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 8, 2023 11:47 pm

The orchestral support was excellent. A buoyant Pomp and Circumstance march saw the Royals out.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 8, 2023 11:48 pm

In his incendiary November letter to ACT chief police office Neil Gaughan, DPP Shane Drumgold said he wanted a public inquiry into the police handling of Brittany Higgins’ rape allegations against Bruce Lehrmann. He’s got that, and so much more than he surely bargained for.

Sir Humphrey’s golden rule …
“Never start an enquiry if you don’t know the outcome.”

MatrixTransform
May 9, 2023 12:10 am

rights?

if breast-feeding has to become chest-feeding to satisfy a million idiots

then flyingduk can drive as fast as he wants

and chuck rocks as fancy takes him

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 9, 2023 12:13 am

non secateur

MatrixTransform
May 9, 2023 12:21 am

to satisfy a million idiots

sorry … a million and one

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