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bespoke
bespoke
May 11, 2023 6:25 pm

I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump picks Nikki Haley as VP.

Tom
Tom
May 11, 2023 6:28 pm

I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump picks Nikki Haley as VP.

Trump is not that dumb. Nikki Haley is Deep State — a female version of Mike Pence.

Robert Sewell
May 11, 2023 6:33 pm

Steve Trickler:

Badlands Media Special Coverage: Town Hall With Donald Trump

Many thanks, Steve.
But no subtitles, which means I can’t follow the conversation because the sound quality is too low.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 11, 2023 6:33 pm

JCsays:

May 11, 2023 at 6:16 pm

You know, after the revelations overnight about the corruption of the entire Hiden family 

what is it this time?

Diogenes
Diogenes
May 11, 2023 6:33 pm

Australia is importing Hundreds and Thousands of people and not building very many Homes or Apartments. Tents and Wigwams anyone? Sleeping in cars? Sleeping on the trains?. Sleeping on Park Benches?

Mrs D said that the Today Show interviewed a pommy teacher recruited by Victoria who has been couch surfing since Feb. He has only just got somewhere to stay now. He knows of others in the same situation.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 11, 2023 6:35 pm

You know, after the revelations overnight about the corruption of the entire Hiden family I think there’s a chance RFK jr could be the next prez.

Stop it.
RFK has a terrible voice.
Newsom will be slotted in once everyone else is told to withdraw.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 11, 2023 6:36 pm

has engaged in conduct in violation of Clause 57, bringing discredit on the Parliamentary Party.

i would have thought labelling a member of your own parliamentary party a nazee based solely on a doctored wiki page might qualify as “bringing discredit”.

mizaris
mizaris
May 11, 2023 6:36 pm

Guy Ritchie’s The Covenant is worth a look. Good, old fashioned, story telling, violence, blood, goodies vs baddies, honour (now there’s a foreign concept); plot holes that a truck might fit through; but suspend disbelief and follow the yarn. First movie I’ve seen in a while which has no wokedom, no preaching, no pooves, trannys, leftism, greenism, and leaves the viewer feeling just a little uplifted.

Vicki
Vicki
May 11, 2023 6:36 pm

with the help of some conversion of roods, perches and chains and mr pythagoras i have exposed the footings for three sides and located the fourth side and all internal walls

A wonderful project, Sancho. Love to hear of these restorations.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 11, 2023 6:36 pm

Robert Sewellsays:
May 11, 2023 at 6:33 pm

? Sound is fine here.

Strange.

Dot
Dot
May 11, 2023 6:37 pm

Someone tell me this is “completely normal” with a straight face.

https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/meta/financials

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 11, 2023 6:41 pm

Apart from Swept Away, Guy Ritchie hasn’t directed a bad movie.

bespoke
bespoke
May 11, 2023 6:42 pm

Tom

I’m only going on past performance and Haley’s mirroring Trumps criticisms of DeSantis vs Disney.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 11, 2023 6:45 pm

You’re making too complicated Dot.
Top line revenue growth, reducing cost base, reduced number of shares on issue (post buy-back).
During 2023, the number of companies doing that in the US will be limited.
That’s why the top 20 companies in the S&P500 have accounted for 100% of the performance ytd.
The other 480 are cumulatively flat.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 11, 2023 6:46 pm

Trump knew E. Jean Carroll’s cat’s name.
How did he know that?
Because he was knocking her off behind his wife’s back, dummy.
Anyway, it sounds like they hadda lotta fun together, but like Stormy Daniels, she hadda go to Court to get paid!

Vicki
Vicki
May 11, 2023 6:46 pm

I reported how BlackRock is now the largest landlord in the US. Institutions have purchased hundreds of billions in real estate across the nation and have no plans to sell because rentals are a lucrative venture.

Blackrock planned this rental strategy years ago. Only now coming to fruition. Some would claim it as some sort of devious conspiracy. I just think they are a lot of smart b—tards who understand the cycles. Although……they said years ago it would happen across the western world…….

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 11, 2023 6:47 pm

I think Greg Gutfeld — having just authored late night US TV’s most successful comedy show (measured by ratings) — will shortly depart Fox News

That’s the interesting thing about the persecution of Tucker by Fox. They have to know that if they continue doing it that two things will happen: their viewers will make for the exits even more than they already have, and their other stars will start preparing new careers.

This could become a second MBA course example of what not to do as a corporate CEO, after Bud Lite’s faceplant.

The ratings are such that MSNBC is already beating Fox in some timeslots, and even CNN is occasionally doing so. That is catastrophic.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2023 6:49 pm

Shane Drumgold’s fate hangs in the balance
Chris Merritt Chris Merritt

6:01PM May 11, 2023

Watching Shane Drumgold KC explain himself this week to Walter Sofronoff KC has been like witnessing a fatal car crash. It’s tragic and bloody but you cannot turn away.

Drumgold’s concessions and admissions before Sofronoff’s board of inquiry must raise doubts about whether he can survive as Director of Public Prosecutions for the ACT.

He has admitted making errors during the prosecution of Bruce Lehrmann on a charge of raping former Liberal staffer Brittany Higgins.
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Most importantly, he has been accused of making false statements to ACT Chief Justice Lucy McCallum.

His fate now depends on what Sofronoff makes of his responses and whether he concludes that the DPP breached his duties when he commenced, continued and then discontinued the case against Lehrmann.

It is important to keep in mind that this inquiry is not a court. Drumgold is not on trial. But it is still hard to see how he could retain office if Sofronoff accepts that he made false statements to the Chief Justice.

It would mean the territory’s top prosecutor had failed to adhere to the high standards for silks that he set just three years ago. An adverse report would also raise questions about the wisdom of appointing a top prosecutor who took silk just four years ago – the same year in which he was appointed DPP.

For the sake of comparison, the DPP in NSW, Sally Dowling SC, took silk eight years before making it to the top job. In Victoria, Kerri Judd KC was appointed DPP eleven years after taking silk.

This, however, is just one of the striking aspects of the Drumgold’s career.

In February 2020, when he appeared before the High Court with other new silks to take their “bows”, Drumgold was introduced by Steven Whybrow – the barrister who is now his nemesis.

Whybrow, who acted for Lehrmann during the criminal proceedings, has made a submission to Sofronoff that accuses Drumgold of a series of failings, including withholding a police report that should have been disclosed.

But in 2020 Whybrow was president of the ACT Bar Association and told the High Court: “May it please the court, I inform the court that the following member of the Bar here present has been appointed as senior counsel in the Australian Capital Territory. He is Neville Shane Drumgold”

Drumgold later addressed a dinner for new silks and made a speech about professional standards that was described as “inspirational” in Bar News, the NSW Bar Association journal.

He set a standard for professional conduct that might eventually come back to haunt him.

“Being labelled silk must weigh heavy upon our shoulders. We must carry the burden of being labelled learned by, at all times, displaying learned qualities,” he said. “We set the standards of skill, of integrity, of honesty. In us, the independence of our role must be on display every day. Our diligence must be worthy of our new standing.

“We must be worthy beacons, because those in our profession today and those who will join our profession in the coming decades will wish to emulate us, and the standards we set,” Drumgold told that dinner.

Sofronoff’s report will go a long way towards dealing with the criticism of the ACT’s justice system that arose after the Lehrmann prosecution was abandoned.

But his report, no matter how comprehensive, cannot provide an answer to the other big issue in the Brittany Higgins affair.

Sofronoff’s terms of reference, which were drawn up by the ACT government, are not broad enough to allow him to examine the circumstances surrounding the Albanese government’s payout to Higgins.

But those circumstances would be within the core jurisdiction of the new National Anti-Corruption Commission which is due to begin operations next month.

That payout to Higgins was made without any finding of wrongdoing against anyone.

It was also made without the involvement of former Liberal ministers Linda Reynolds and Michaelia Cash, who had been accused of wrongdoing by Higgins during Lehrmann’s trial.

The Albanese government threatened to tear up an agreement to pay their legal fees and costs unless they agreed not to attend a mediation session that led to the Higgins payout.

Their views were not heard.

That incident now needs to be viewed in the context of what Sofronoff makes of Whybrow’s submission that says Higgins had been allowed to make allegations about Reynolds and Cash that were fabrications.

The submission says Whybrow was never told about a witness who had complained to Drumgold about a “misrepresentation” by Higgins on the witness stand.

The Whybrow submission says that witness’s evidence would have contradicted the claims Higgins had made about Reynolds and Cash.

If Sofronoff accepts that submission, and rejects Drumgold’s explanation, it would mean that claims about Reynolds and Cash that emerged during the failed criminal proceedings would need to be seen in an entirely new light.

The question that would then need to be answered is whether this affected the decision by the Albanese government to pay a sum of money to Higgins to settle her claim against the Commonwealth.

Even if that episode played no role in the settlement, an independent inquiry should determine why Higgins walked away with taxpayers’ money when there was no finding of wrongdoing against anyone.

Crossie
Crossie
May 11, 2023 6:50 pm

calli says:
May 11, 2023 at 6:06 pm
I mean the Dems are actually allowing the undead representation in Congress.
Someone needs to represent their voters.

Boom, boom.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 11, 2023 6:51 pm

The Murdochs couldn’t give a shit about Fox.
Since the Disney transaction, they have more money than they could ever spend.
They are more interested in being invited to dinner parties.
Having a less noisy Fox is how those invites keep coming.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 11, 2023 6:52 pm

Trump knew E. Jean Carroll’s cat’s name.
How did he know that?
Because he was knocking her off behind his wife’s back, dummy.

Trump raped Carroll’s cat!

She chose a rather weird name for her cat. If I was a cat I’d be upset with it. Perhaps she has…issues.
Psychiatrists know well that how people treat their pets can be a window into their inner ids.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 11, 2023 6:53 pm

Here’s the bottom line about Trump:
People like him pay for sex because there’s no loose ends and no one ends up feeling cheated.
What’s becoming obvious is that he’s a welsher who doesn’t pay his debts.

Women voters have got the message about Trump, so it’s another win for Joe, provided RFK Jr can drive De Santis outta the race.

Robert Sewell
May 11, 2023 6:53 pm

Steve Trickler:

Steve tricklersays:
May 11, 2023 at 6:36 pm
Robert Sewellsays:
May 11, 2023 at 6:33 pm
? Sound is fine here.
Strange.

No, it’s my ears – too much loud music, not enough sex, and waaay too many drugs as a young feller.
Hearing aids help but only in the short term. Because they boost the frequencies that are damaged, they exacerbate the problem*. The only thing that helps is living quietly – no high pitched noises, and keeping the volume down on the websites.
Hearing acuity returns a bit for special occasions like AC/DC revivals, Eric Burdon, and Dire Straits.
*My theory only – most hearing experts just want to sell hearing aids.

cohenite
May 11, 2023 6:59 pm

mizarissays:
May 11, 2023 at 6:36 pm
Guy Ritchie’s The Covenant is worth a look.

Where is it?

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 11, 2023 6:59 pm

Chris Merritt suggests the obvious Return of the Jedi to this weeks Star Wars.

bespoke
bespoke
May 11, 2023 7:01 pm

No, it’s my ears – too much loud music, not enough sex, and waaay too many drugs and 4x’s as young feller.

Only takes one 4x to trigger senility.

Tom
Tom
May 11, 2023 7:01 pm

…an independent inquiry should determine why Higgins walked away with taxpayers’ money when there was no finding of wrongdoing against anyone.

Just as American voters are becoming used to election-rigging, Australian voters are becoming used to official corruption, where political subversives like Britnah have their financial futures taken care of because they contribute to the success of the correct political tribe.

If voting could change anything, it would be illegal.

cohenite
May 11, 2023 7:03 pm

What’s becoming obvious is that he’s a welsher who doesn’t pay his debts.

You’re a dickhead crotchless. Trump had 4 Chapter 11s; or rather companies he was a major shareholder in did, Trump has never been personally bankrupt. He acted honourably in all 4 allowing the businesses to continue and workers to continue to get paid.

As for Trump paying for roots the women he has been associated with weren’t there for cheap dosh. The guy hasn’t had to pay ever. Unlike losers who wear rubber crotchless panties.

Indolent
Indolent
May 11, 2023 7:12 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 11, 2023 7:17 pm

Shane Drumgold’s fate hangs in the balance
Chris Merritt

this should be a perfect slam-dunk for the liberals

there is a $3 meg cash settlement (or 675,000 googlery dollars) which the two liberal ministers were frozen out of so they are totally squeaky clean wrt the payout

a wilson tuckey type would go hard asking exactly why britnah was paid out in the absence of any evidence or any compensation tribunal review

of course, before you do that, pop around to the government whip’s office and let them know that if we hear “liberal’s women problem” or “wape apologists” across the chamber or leaked to their abc, we will immediately go the full shorten

but do they have a wilson tuckey?
do they have the balls?

frayed knot

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 11, 2023 7:19 pm

Tom – my view we are a long way away from that in Australia (putting Victoriastan to one side for the time being). The performance of the NSW ICAC certainly has a question mark against it. The performance of the Federal Court and most superior jurisdictions are sound. Let’s wait and see how the Brittany saga plays out. My suspicions are the Department of Finance and Mean Girl Gallagher aren’t off the hook just yet.

Indolent
Indolent
May 11, 2023 7:21 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2023 7:27 pm

but do they have a wilson tuckey?

The dreaded “Ironbar?” Called the acknowledgment of the traditional owners a “farce and a sham?”

Roger
Roger
May 11, 2023 7:28 pm

Mrs D said that the Today Show interviewed a pommy teacher recruited by Victoria who has been couch surfing since Feb. He has only just got somewhere to stay now. He knows of others in the same situation.

Given the incentives on offer, he wouldn’t have been short of cash either.

mizaris
mizaris
May 11, 2023 7:34 pm

mizarissays:
May 11, 2023 at 6:36 pm
Guy Ritchie’s The Covenant is worth a look.

Where is it?

Short season o/s then straight to disc. Might not be available yet in Oz through the usual outlets. You might have to know someone with a vpn and a download program. Ahem…

mizaris
mizaris
May 11, 2023 7:37 pm

OMG: Hidden Camera Catches Catholic College Prioritizing Transgender Student, Promising Shared Accommodation With Biological Girls

The US Catholic Church is nominal only in many places. Why I’m not surprised by this, surprises me a little.

cohenite
May 11, 2023 7:37 pm

OMG: Hidden Camera Catches Catholic College Prioritizing Transgender Student, Promising Shared Accommodation With Biological Girls

Great work by O’Keefe; but the catholic university is a disgrace.

Roger
Roger
May 11, 2023 7:40 pm

I’m struggling to understand how Drumgold passed his law degree, let alone became a DPP.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 11, 2023 7:42 pm

OMG: Hidden Camera Catches Catholic College Prioritizing Transgender Student, Promising Shared Accommodation With Biological Girls

Sounds like a night on the town we had that ended up dropping them back to the convent. Probably going to hell for that one.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 11, 2023 7:51 pm

Ed Casesays:
May 11, 2023 at 6:53 pm
Here’s the bottom line about Trump:
People like him pay for sex because there’s no loose ends and no one ends up feeling cheated.
What’s becoming obvious is that he’s a welsher who doesn’t pay his debts.

Women voters have got the message about Trump, so it’s another win for Joe, provided RFK Jr can drive De Santis outta the race.

Grandpa Ed Simpson-Case still shilling for leftards.

Frank
Frank
May 11, 2023 7:56 pm

Mutts of the week…

Pretty weird looking for a whippet cross.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 11, 2023 7:59 pm

Rogersays:
May 11, 2023 at 7:40 pm
I’m struggling to understand how Drumgold passed his law degree, let alone became a DPP.

Check the tie he was wearing a day or so ago, that’s how.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2023 8:03 pm

Daily Mail.

Pauline Hanson is brutally shut down when she attempts to introduce a Bill to Parliament to tighten up who can identify as Aboriginal: ‘Things could get messy’

Pauline Hanson wants to stamp out people ‘falsely claiming Indigenous heritage’
Her attempt to bring a bill was rejected

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 11, 2023 8:03 pm

Yep i’d say still very young tho Frank- pigmentation good but I’m not 100% about the blue eyes.
Last pup I bought by correspondence came to me from Wilmington, it felt weird reaching out, but he turned out as good as anyone could imagine. I am on the rebound though, I’ll have to make sure I’ve got a hold of myself.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 11, 2023 8:05 pm

Drumgold: “I didn’t expect The Spanish Inquisition.”
Nobody does Shane, nobody does.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 11, 2023 8:12 pm

Can’t go wrong dropping a Monty Python reference into evidence. One guy used to try and slip a Roolin Stones lyric into his Uni essays.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2023 8:19 pm

Sofronoff inquiry: Lisa Wilkinson refutes DPP claims over Logies speech

By Stephen Rice
NSW Editor
@riceyontheroad
7:48PM May 11, 2023

TV presenter Lisa Wilkson has sensationally refuted claims by ACT chief prosecutor Shane Drumgold that he warned her that her Logies speech could result in a delay in Bruce Lehrmann’s upcoming rape trial.

Mr Drumgold claimed he told The Project host in a pre-trial conference days before the Logie Awards that the defence team could make a stay application “in the event of publicity”.

A file note to that effect was noted by Chief Justice Lucy McCallum, during the stay application to halt proceedings sought by Mr Lehrmann’s lawyers after Wilkinson’s Logie speech last June. Chief Justice McCallum ruled that the trial would have to be delayed by several months because of the prejudicial nature of the speech.

However, in a statement to the Sofronoff Inquiry Ms Wilkinson says Mr Drumgold “did not at any time” give her the warning he claimed.

Ms Wilkinson was recorded in the note tendered to court as having said “I am nominated for a Gold Logie for the Brittany Higgins interview” but points out in her statement to the Inquiry that she was never nominated for the Gold Logie and never said she was.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 11, 2023 8:29 pm

but points out in her statement to the Inquiry that she was never nominated for the Gold Logie and never said she was.

Sensationally?
What a dropkick.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 11, 2023 8:35 pm

TV presenter Lisa Wilkson has sensationally refuted claims by ACT chief prosecutor Shane Drumgold that he warned her that her Logies speech could result in a delay in Bruce Lehrmann’s upcoming rape trial.

team britnah fraying at the edges

much as i can’t stand the cane toad, i can’t help wondering if drumgold wasn’t a bit muted and ambiguous in his warnings, kind of hoping mrs bandana would put her thumb on the scales of themis

of course, mrs bandana and the channel x legal eagles should have known better

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 11, 2023 8:37 pm

Hanson’s turning into a very good shitstirrer- but the very valid point she makes about patrolling the qualification ignores the only two reasons why Aboriginality should be of any import to the attentions of the law of the land-
1, does a person’s genetic Aboriginal heritage mean they cannot function as a normal independent individual in Australia? This’ll be health related stuff
and 2, does a person’s cultural Aboriginal heritage mean they cannot function as a normal independent individual in Australia? More education etc.
There is an assumption that both of these quite different heritages- genetic and cultural- are indelible- i’d argue the former is, but the latter is a sacred cow which will never be touched by the suicidally self-flaggelating West.
So, we need standing legislation for both of these, and then whatever Voices, ATSICs, UN Rights Of The Second-Last Nationers or other deliverances come and go, the qualification of the person for special treatment never wavers.
Both of these would need a separate act, to make sure we include people who don’t look Aboriginal but genetically are- call it the Full Legal Organic and Residual Ancestry test- and exclude people who look Aboriginal but would rather be free of Culture. Family, Uncle/Aunty and 1st Nationses Access. Bundle it up into a single package-
Then, all Hanson needs to do to set the eagles amongst the pigeons, is propose that any Aboriginal Australians can only have access to the Voice if they qualify under the F.L.O.R.A. and F.A.U.N.A. act…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2023 8:42 pm

Then, all Hanson needs to do to set the eagles amongst the pigeons, is propose that any Aboriginal Australians can only have access to the Voice if they qualify under the F.L.O.R.A. and F.A.U.N.A. act…

Ek roll ap die vloor….

Cassie of Sydney
May 11, 2023 8:44 pm

“but do they have a wilson tuckey?

The Wilson Tuckeys and Bill Heffernans of the Liberal Party have all been purged, disappeared and are now gone. They’re extinct, more chance of finding a Tassie Tiger.

do they have the balls?”

Nope, nyet, nup. Look, the federal Liberals are only marginally better than the Victorian Liberals, both are on life support although with the Victorian Liberals I’d turn off the life support tonight. Leaders like Turdbull and Scumbag finally disposed of the shit kickers. Look at what Scumbag did to Craig Kelly and George Christensen. Both were mavericks, okay, okay, you didn’t have to agree with them on everything or even like them, but they knew how to rock the boat, they knew how to speak up, and once upon a time Liberal leaders and the party as a whole liked those mavericks precisely because they could and would rock the boat, kick shit and annoy Labor. Mavericks were long tolerated in the party, going back to Menzies. But now, it’s a vanilla party, made up of supine and spineless individuals, which is why they now endorse the likes of Karma Sharma, Dr Katie ‘I love Obama’ Allan, Timmy Wilson, Rent Zimmerboy, Fiona Martin and Jason Foolinsky. None of those were arse kickers, instead they were arse lickers….pardon the vulgarity but sometimes a little vulgarity is needed.

cohenite
May 11, 2023 8:48 pm

and 2, does a person’s cultural Aboriginal heritage mean they cannot function as a normal independent individual in Australia? More education etc.

What culture? Which tribe’s culture?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2023 8:53 pm

Bill Heffernans of the Liberal Party

Bill Heffernan was one polie who had at least held a proper job outside politics – he had been a woolclasser, and the joke was, when he came unstuck over various allegations, involving Kings Cross rent boys, that a good woolclasser could always find a job…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 11, 2023 8:54 pm

None of those were arse kickers, instead they were arse lickers…

in some cases that is literally true

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
May 11, 2023 8:54 pm

Tom 11/5 @ 4:11
How does Virginia green compare.
That resting between the fingers in your left hand with the hand holding the bottom of a glass of Barossa Red.
Ben Hur on screen.
Ahhhh.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 11, 2023 8:56 pm

unfortunately heffernan over-egged the pudding regarding a certain high court judge

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 11, 2023 8:57 pm

All true Cassie though I must say in their defense that Wilson purported to be something he wasn’t.

cohenite
May 11, 2023 8:57 pm

None of those were arse kickers, instead they were arse lickers….pardon the vulgarity but sometimes a little vulgarity is needed.

The liberals don’t exist anymore; they are part of the swamp; the liars have their heads up the filth’s arse and the libs have their heads up the liars arse. They just don’t get the fact that there are no rules when you deal with the left; or maybe they do and have joined them.

Cassie of Sydney
May 11, 2023 8:58 pm

“in some cases that is literally true”

I did mention two names above.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2023 9:01 pm

unfortunately heffernan over-egged the pudding regarding a certain high court judge

Indeed.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 11, 2023 9:03 pm

Just idly watching a documentary on the teev. The narrator says “Hitler joined the German Workers Party – a small right-wing party”.

I wonder if the narrator sensed, even as he said it, the incongruity of labelling a ‘workers’ party as right wing. I mean, back then, why would a small party want to mislabel themselves – using the term ‘workers’ to trick a few thousand people in a milieu of tens of millions to inadvertently support capitalists.

I know it is like catnip to raise the issue of whether the Nasteez were left or right – but I was just struck by the bizarre juxtaposition of party name and party agenda.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 11, 2023 9:08 pm

but I was just struck by the bizarre supposed juxtaposition of party name and party agenda.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2023 9:10 pm

I know it is like catnip to raise the issue of whether the Nasteez were left or right

Didn’t Numbers Bob get almost theological on that subject?

Muddy
Muddy
May 11, 2023 9:26 pm

LIBERTY QUOTE please:

Tom says:
May 11, 2023 at 7:01 pm
If voting could change anything, it would be illegal.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 11, 2023 9:29 pm

That quote is old as the hills, Will Rogers said it in about 1923, talking about Teapot Dome.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2023 9:33 pm

HOMETOWN SPEAKER MISSING IN ACTION

Queensland Speaker Curtis Pitt is adamant it was the effects of the flu, and not late night drinks, to blame for him rolling up 45 minutes late to the regional sitting of parliament in his home town of Cairns on Tuesday.

The veteran Labor MP, appointed Speaker in 2017 after being pushed aside as Treasurer by the now-departed Jackie Trad, had to be woken by police who went to his hotel room for a “welfare check” after failing to take frantic calls from parliamentary staff.

With deputy Speaker Joe Kelly filling in, Clerk of Parliament Neil Laurie informed the house at 9.30am of the “unavoidable absence of the Speaker from this morning’s sittings”.

And when Pitt finally did take the Speaker’s chair to oversee the beginning of Question Time at 10.15am, MPs from both sides of the aisle told Chooks he appeared to slur a few words.

He then began proceedings by declaring that the traditional hour of QT scrutiny would “conclude at 11.15pm” – a full 12 hours later. (The Hansard now has a corrected record that he said “11.15am”).

“Tired and emotional – as a newt.” H/T “Yes Minister.”

Muddy
Muddy
May 11, 2023 9:35 pm

Cassie:

…it’s a vanilla party, made up of supine and spineless individuals…

I want a human, flaws and all, not a hologram.
Having written that, as stated previously, I will NEVER vote for a political party that existed during the covidiocy. No exceptions. Strangely, I’m not happy with being spat upon.

Muddy
Muddy
May 11, 2023 9:53 pm

Random post.
Youtube comment from beneath the Melanesian Choirs segments of the Thin Red Line soundtrack:

Aaron Hayes: This inspired song JESUS YU HOLEM HAN BLONG MI was actually written in 1990 by Benjamin Tekulu, one of my students at King George VI School in Honiara and was recorded at the SIBC studios in the same year by the KG6 King’s Kids, produced by myself. Sony Pictures paid Benjamin a modest fee for using the song in the 1998 movie “The Thin Red Line”, although obviously the song was not yet in existence in 1943 when the movie was set. Since that time the song has become popular worldwide especially with expatriate Solomon Islanders but the songwriter is largely slated as “unknown” – just thought I would correct that.

The original lyrics in Solomon Islands Pidgin-English (Anglicised spelling for international audience) are:
“Jesus you hol(d)em hand blong me, take-em heart blong me, heart blong me cry out for you
Me no findem any good something long thisfala world, heart blong me cry out for you
Jesus me come long you now (oooh) you take-em me thistime (oooh) (REPEAT)
Papa mi talk thankyou long you, you send-em son blong you, for die, for sin blong me
Whichway (Waswe) you re-ready for him, by-by him he come makey-two time more.”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2023 9:59 pm

“Tired and emotional – as a newt.” H/T “Yes Minister.”

Comment rejected at the Oz – took three minutes..

Indolent
Indolent
May 11, 2023 10:09 pm
Real Deal
Real Deal
May 11, 2023 10:11 pm

From Drop the Dead Donkey.

“Henry won’t be in until later.”
“Why?”
“Because he’s tired.”
“How tired?”
“Completely tired”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 11, 2023 10:23 pm

From Drop the Dead Donkey.

Scene, in the guardroom of a certain A.D.F. establishment, way back when.

“Eh, Smith, what brings you here, this evening.”

“Two of your dirty big wallopers. Picking on a man for having a few, on pay night.”

“Eh, Smith, drunk again, I suppose?”

“Both of them. Can’t you at least, inspect your troops to make sure they are sober, before they go on duty?”

Dot
Dot
May 11, 2023 10:23 pm

much as i can’t stand the cane toad, i can’t help wondering if drumgold wasn’t a bit muted and ambiguous in his warnings, kind of hoping mrs bandana would put her thumb on the scales of themis

Instead, the Mosman Amphibian thought she was Thetis, demanding a tribute and sacrifice.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 11, 2023 10:37 pm
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 11, 2023 10:39 pm

132andBush says:
May 11, 2023 at 6:20 pm

Dot.

Trump/DeSantis

Yep

132andbush

Trump & Kari Lake

Kari Lake coming from Media knows how to handle The Crap of Journalists

Excellent to watch her in action – would be good choice for Trump Running Mate

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 11, 2023 10:41 pm

A follow-up CNN videopaganda piece to that Trump Townhall was titled

Voters at Trump town hall weigh in on his performance

The recurring theme from these supposedly totally-not-staged average voters was that they didn’t think Trump was lying about 2020 but he should talk about the future not the past.

It would be all very convenient for CNN’s paymasters if Trump & Co would just forget about 2020 and move on, wouldn’t it? Mmm.

And the nerve of the interviewer saying there were no stuffed ballot boxes in Fulton County 2020 because he was there and watched the whole thing! We saw on the State Farm Arena CCTV that everybody was told to clear out of the room and only the people counting votes for the Dems stayed behind – with no bipartisan observers. Totally illegal and no sign of the CNN chump anywhere.
So that’s how it is in 2023 on CNN. An absolutely bald-faced lie told to the nation, easy disproved by anyone with the Georgia Senate testimony videos, and nobody bats an eyelid.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 11, 2023 10:45 pm

Biden mocks Trump town hall speech

The US president urged his supporters to donate to his re-election campaign unless they want four more years of his 2020 opponent

US President Joe Biden has told his supporters on Twitter that, unless they want Donald Trump to run the country for another four years, they should donate money to his re-election campaign. The president’s ultimatum comes in response to Trump’s appearance at a town hall event hosted by CNN on Wednesday, when he attempted to make the case for his third presidential bid.

“It’s simple, folks. Do you want four more years of that?” Biden wrote following Trump’s televised speech. “If you don’t, pitch in to our campaign” he added, linking to an ActBlue donation page, which enables US citizens to send money to the Joe Biden and Kamala Harris campaign. Voters are asked to contribute anything from $10 to $2,000 or even more, and can commit to making monthly payments.

As reported by The Hill, following Trump’s town hall, Biden’s campaign also sent out an email to its subscribers seeking to raise funds with the subject line “So, that happened.”

“If you missed Trump’s CNN town hall, you’re better off for it. But the choice is clear: It’s four more years of Trump or four more years of Biden,” the email reportedly stated.

From the Comments

– Biden has no achievements to run on. In fact, he has destroyed the US economy and about to do the same to the world economy by provoking a war with Russia and China. This man and the elite supporting himself are a threat to US. The only way Biden stay as president is if the system gets rigged or the deep state foments another plot to disqualify, jail or kill Trump.

– So says Biden as he stands behind some little girl fondling her flat chest while crapping all over himself in sheer excitement. Yes folks this is the man you elected to save you.

– Big difference is that Trump CAN speak without being told the whole time what to say and mumbling crap that makes no sense. Leave Biden without a teleprompter or someone telling him through an earpiece what to say, he’s a mess and will tell you about a cheese factory on the moon the one minute and then about him seeing mermaids when he crossed the Mississippi going to Switzerland on AirForce

– President Trump as we both know it means your nemesis Bathhouse Barry is using his demonic possessed puppet Pinocchio Joe to mock your re-election chances once again.

– I’d love to see another 4 years of biden.

It’s been great so far, let the collapse of the american crap empire continue!

The problem is that in his incompetence, biden may trigger nuclear war. Otherwise, it’s great to play chess with this dementing criminal.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 11, 2023 10:51 pm

Kiev ‘needs more time’ before counteroffensive – Zelensky

Ukrainian troops are “ready” to attack but have not received all the necessary Western weapons, the president has claimed

Ukrainian troops are “ready” to mount a long-touted counteroffensive against Russia, but still need more time and equipment before conditions are optimal, President Vladimir Zelensky has told Western media.

“We’d lose a lot of people,” Zelensky said regarding the potential consequences of launching the operation immediately. “I think that’s unacceptable. So we need to wait. We still need a bit more time.”

The Ukrainian leader was speaking to journalists from the Eurovision News network, and was cited on Thursday by the BBC.

Zelensky specifically noted to the journalists that more armored vehicles are required by the Ukrainian army, insisted that his government was eager to use weapons provided by its Western backers and claimed Russia wants to freeze the conflict.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, however, stated this week that the Russian military was still holding back against Ukraine.

“Waging war… means the full destruction of infrastructure, the full destruction of cities,” the official said, adding that Russia is “trying to preserve people’s lives.”

Zelensky rejected the notion that Kiev would be compelled by its foreign backers to negotiate should the counteroffensive fail, arguing that they “can’t pressure Ukraine into surrendering territories.”

Earlier this week, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken praised efforts by Washington and its allies to prepare Kiev for military action, describing them as “very productive.” Ukraine has received weapons, maintenance, the training of troops, and “the right plans,” the US official told journalists.

“They have in place across all of those dimensions what they need to continue to be successful in regaining territory,” Blinken assessed.

The UK has reportedly provided Ukraine with new military capabilities by delivering air-launched Storm Shadow cruise missiles. The weapons have a range of up to 300km (200 miles), further than any Western arms previously sent to Kiev.

Ukraine has long requested more sophisticated weapons, claiming they are necessary to gain the advantage over Russia. The Kiev government has also urged its Western backers to provide F-16 fighter jets to replenish its dwindling fleet of Soviet-made warplanes, but has thus far not been granted its wish.

Russia perceives the hostilities in Ukraine as part of a wider Western proxy war, and has argued that the continued flow of weapons to Kiev simply prolongs the conflict and increases the risk of escalation. Moscow has declared the demilitarization of Ukraine as among the key goals in its campaign, arguing that NATO’s presence in the country poses a critical threat to Russian national security.

From the Comments

– Last week Zelensky’s excuse was mud!.. Place your bets for next weeks excuse!..

– Mosquitoes. No-one can fight with those damn things around. Postponed until September.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 11, 2023 10:52 pm

KanekoaTheGreat @KanekoaTheGreat · 21h

NEW – House Oversight reveals the nine Biden family members that received wire transfers from foreign nationals via shell companies.

1. Hunter Biden
2. James Biden
3. Sara Biden
4. Hallie Biden
5. Kathleen Biden
6. Melissa Biden
7. Niece/nephew
8. Niece/nephew
9. Grandchild

As Hunter has to pay 10% to the big guy, surely the grandkids only need to forfeit 1 in 10 ice-creams?

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 11, 2023 11:00 pm

DC_Draino @DC_Draino

Did you know?
The statue of limitations for sexual assault in NY is typically 5-7 years
New York even has a 20 year period for civil claims of sexual assault
But that wasn’t enough to get Trump – Jean Carroll’s claims go back to the mid 90s

So NY amended the law in 2022 to provide unlimited statue of limitations for civil claims of sexual assault and provided a 1 year window where preexisting claims could be litigated

That’s where Jean Carroll comes in

Funded by a Democrat activist, she filed her claim against Trump in that limited window and even a liberal New York jury wouldn’t find Trump liable for rape

People paying attention know what this truly is

Another political attack to try and harm Trump before the 2024 election

Yep and as contrived as that obviously all is, that still doesn’t mean he didn’t do it. It just means it would be unfair to convict him under a process that isn’t the same as any other allegations of the similar offences. There may be other good reasons for thinking he didn’t do it, but the rigged process isn’t one.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 11, 2023 11:03 pm

Recession chance as high as 80pc: RBA research

Michael Read – Reporter

There is only a one in two chance the Reserve Bank of Australia can reduce inflation below 3 per cent without triggering a recession, according to internal research that reveals the central bank has considered the possibility of the cash rate rising to 4.8 per cent.

The RBA released a batch of internal documents under Freedom of Information laws on Thursday, including a staff modelling exercise from September 2022 that concluded the probability of a recession by September 2024 could be as high as 65 to 80 per cent.

The release of the research comes as economists debate whether Treasurer Jim Chalmers’ second budget will put upward pressure on inflation and force the RBA to lift interest rates even further.

Westpac chief economist Bill Evans said Dr Chalmers’ decision to inject $20.6 billion into the economy, including $12 billion next year, made it a “big spending budget”.

“The RBA won’t be raising rates in anticipation of that $12 billion, but it could mean that over the course of [next] year, the opportunity to cut rates as early as February starts to fade away,” Mr Evans said.

The RBA is trying to lift interest rates enough to engineer a return to its 2 to 3 per cent inflation target, but without sparking a sharp increase in unemployment.

RBA research, completed by a mid-level economist in the central bank’s macroeconomic modelling team, highlights how difficult it will be for RBA governor Philip Lowe to tread his self-described “narrow path” where inflation returns to target without a large increase in unemployment.

A probability-based RBA model found the chance of a recession by September 2024 ranged from 65 per cent to 80 per cent, depending on whether the exercise accounted for the chance of a recession in the United States.

While a recession is usually defined as two consecutive quarters of negative growth, the RBA research defined a downturn as any period when the unemployment rate increases 0.75 percentage points higher than its 12-month minimum, which is a modified version of the Sahm rule.

“If a recession does occur, it is most likely sometime over the next four quarters,” the research said, with a 40 to 70 per cent chance of a recession by September 2023.

“This is in line with intensifying market commentary predicting a recession in the first half of 2023.”

Simulations using the bank’s main MARTIN model were slightly less pessimistic, concluding that there was a 50 per cent chance the RBA could bring inflation back to target without a recession.

However, a recession occurred in about one-third of simulations.

“This is much higher than the baseline historical probability of recession of 5 per cent observed in the quarters used for sampling (1998-2019) and 13 per cent of all quarters for which we have historical Australian data.”

Rates at 4.8pc

Lifting the cash rate to 4.8 per cent could help the RBA achieve its inflation and unemployment goals more quickly, according to a separate piece of research distributed internally by the macroeconomic modelling team in February.

In a document titled Alternative Monetary Policy Paths, analysts said further regular increases in the cash rate to 4.8 per cent would bring inflation back to target by the end of next year and lift unemployment closer to the central bank’s estimate of full employment, which is 4.5 per cent.

The 4.8 per cent cash rate would be sustained for the rest of 2023, before falling back to 1.5 per cent by the end of 2026.

That research was completed as part of the central bank’s monthly board cycle and was undertaken when the cash rate was 3.35 per cent. It has since increased to 3.85 per cent.

Dr Lowe has said publicly that the bank could raise interest rates more aggressively to get the 7 per cent inflation rate back to target sooner, but he is prepared to be a bit more patient than foreign central banks to preserve jobs and limiting the rise in unemployment.

Markets do not expect the RBA to raise interest rates to 4.8 per cent, with economists generally expecting the cash rate to either remain on hold at 3.85 per cent or peak at 4.1 per cent.

While higher rates could help bring inflation back to the central bank’s target band quicker, lifting rates too high could trigger a severe economic downturn.

Australia would likely enter a recession if the RBA became as aggressive as the Reserve Bank of New Zealand, which has increased the cash rate to 5.25 per cent, according to research distributed by the macroeconomic modelling team in January 2023.

If the RBA followed the interest rate path of the RBNZ and lift the cash rate above 5 per cent, inflation would fall back within its 2 to 3 per cent target band by the end of 2024 at the cost of a recession.

Under this scenario, the unemployment rate would increase to close to 4.75 per cent from 3.5 per cent, according to the RBA’s modelling.

Dot
Dot
May 11, 2023 11:05 pm

Yep and as contrived as that obviously all is, that still doesn’t mean he didn’t do it.

Yes it does. Her story is absurd and unverifiable with concocted corroborations. Furthermore everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 11, 2023 11:08 pm

Looks like the Chook’s mob have started Mad Monday celebrations before the final siren has even rung. Not a good look.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 11, 2023 11:15 pm

Actually before the ball has even been bounced. NRL types ask someone to explain it to you. Or move.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 11, 2023 11:19 pm

Donald Trump Gives No Quarter to E. Jean Carroll – or Her ‘Hanky Panky’ Claims – at CNN Town Hall

By Susie Moore

Former President Donald Trump appeared on CNN Wednesday evening for a “town hall” conducted by CNN host Kaitlan Collins. (While it was a town hall at times, the majority of the event consisted of Collins debating Trump herself.)

While Collins spent much of the first 30 minutes arguing with Trump over whether the 2020 election was rigged and whether he reacted appropriately to the events of January 6, 2021, the topic did eventually come around to Tuesday’s verdict in E. Jean Carroll’s civil lawsuit against the former president, finding him liable of sexual abuse and defamation. While the Trump camp has indicated they intend to appeal the verdict, Trump himself gave no quarter — to the case itself or to Carroll, who he, at one point, referred to as a “whack job.” (I’ll say this, it takes a certain degree of chutzpah to call the woman who just won a defamation case against you for calling her a liar…a liar and a whack job.)

The clip below captures some of Trump’s indignance over the case and the issue he takes with Carroll’s story (though, as Collins did later point out, he ultimately opted not to attend the trial or testify at it, upon his counsel’s advice).

It begins with Trump’s supposition as to what was behind Carroll’s allegations and lawsuit: election interference (i.e., with an eye towards hampering his 2024 election bid). He continues with his thoughts on Carroll and her story:

This woman — I don’t know her. I never met her. I have no idea who she is. I had a picture taken years ago with her and her husband — nice guy — John Johnson, he was a newscaster, very nice man.

She called him an ape — happens to be African American — called him an ape. The judge wouldn’t allow us to put that in. Her dog, or her cat, was named “Vagina.” The judge wouldn’t allow [us] to put that in.

All of these things, he wouldn’t — but with her, they could put in anything: Access Hollywood, put in anything..

Collins interjected, noting: “This was a jury of nine people who found you liable of sexual abuse — do you think that that will deter women from voting for you?”

Trump responded:

No, I don’t think so, because I think the whole thing — just so you understand — ready? I never met this woman. I never saw this woman. This woman said I met her at the front door of Bergdorf Goodman — which I rarely go into, other than for a couple of charities — I met her in the front door. She was about 60 years old then — this was like 22-23 years ago — I met her in the front door of Bergdorf Goodman. I was immediately attracted to her and she was immediately attracted to me, and we had this great chemistry — we’re walking into a crowded department store — we had this great chemistry, and a few minutes later, we end up in a room — a dressing room — at Bergdorf Goodman, right near the cash register, and then she found out there were locks on the door, so she said, “I found one that was open.” She found one — she learned this at trial — she found one that was open. What kind of a woman meets somebody and brings them up, and within minutes, you’re playing hanky panky in a dressing room, okay? I don’t know if she was married then or not. John Johnson, I feel sorry for you, John Johnson.

Critics will undoubtedly pick this apart, but watch the video and you’ll see — this was Trump playing to an audience, relating a story with comedic timing and gestures, which the audience in turn found comical.

The camera pans to the audience at one point and they’re clearly laughing, some covering their mouths as if to acknowledge they know they really shouldn’t but can’t quite help themselves.

And this is the thing about Trump that his most ardent detractors never quite seem to get.

It is that Trump, and the Trump who refuses to be corralled and refuses to accept the premises of his inquisitors, who millions of people genuinely enjoy and appreciate — precisely because he will not dance to the tune of the corporate media drummers.

As a lawyer, I’d be cringing to no end to have my client discussing a case so publically and unabashedly while we’re still contemplating an appeal (which could, in turn, result in an order for new trial), but Trump isn’t worried about the court of law nearly so much as he’s worried about the court of public opinion. He’ll never get a unanimous verdict there, but it appears he revels in the challenge.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 11, 2023 11:42 pm

Dot says: May 11, 2023 at 11:05 pm

Yes it does.

That is a stupid statement, but it is late so I’ll let you off.

Her story is absurd and unverifiable with concocted corroborations.

Okay, that would be the “other good reasons for thinking he didn’t do it” but that’s not because of the rigged process, which is what I (and DC Draino) were talking about.

Furthermore everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

Yes, never said otherwise. And you have to question the process by which someone is proven guilty, which where all this Dems donor collusion enters into the justice picture.

Alamak!
Alamak!
May 11, 2023 11:51 pm

Don got played for $5M. Nothing to do with politics – just a dumb, kinda rich guy who won’t shut up when his lawyers tell him to. As for his political goals, they are as nothing compared to the $100m he takes in donations every year while pretending he will run for prez again. It’s all about the benjamins …

Dot
Dot
May 11, 2023 11:52 pm

Wow

Ole’ Nanna Doolan’s crackpot therapies (Irish Moss) are the real deal!

Sorry if this is scroll material, I’ve been sick and I have the flu insomnia.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2021.772033/full

Carrageenans are sulfated linear polysaccharides extracted from some red algae, such as Chondrus, Gigartina, Hypnea, and Eucheuma spp. (49). These polysaccharides showed an antiviral activity against several viruses. For instance, González et al. (87) reported a good inhibitory effect of carrageenan against some enveloped viruses, including HSV-1, HSV-2, Semliki Forest, vaccinia, and swine fever viruses, but they did not find any impact on vesicular stomatitis and measles viruses. Moreover, these authors also showed the antiviral activity of carrageenan against encephalomyocarditis virus (EMCV), a naked virus, but they did not observe significant effects on poliovirus or adenovirus. The carrageenan interfered with the viral protein synthesis. On the other hand, ?-carrageenan and moderately cyclized ?/?-carrageenan extracted from a red seaweed (Gigartina skottsbergii) inhibited the viral attachment of HSV-1 and HSV-2 (88). Various types of carrageenans also have shown antiviral activities against hepatitis A virus (HAV). The 50% effective dose (ED50) for ?-carrageenan, ?-carrageenan, and ?-carrageenan against HAV were >400, >222, and >10 ?g·mL?1, respectively (89). ?-Carrageenan from G. skottsbergii showed an inhibitory effect on both bovine herpesvirus type 1 (BoHV-1) and Suid herpesvirus type 1 (SuHV-1). The IC50 of this polysaccharide was 0.52 and 10.4 ?g·mL?1, respectively (90).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8400836/

Carrageenans have been reported to be effective mainly against enveloped viruses. The most studied are members of the family Herpesviridae comprising herpes simplex virus types 1 and 2 (HSV-1 and 2) [23,39,44,62,63,64,65,66,67], cytomegalovirus (CMV) [63], varicela zoster virus (VZV) [14], equid herpesvirus 3 (EHV-3) [68], and bovine herpesvirus type 1 (BoHV-1) and suid herpesvirus type 1 (SuHV-1) [13]. Other enveloped viruses affected by carrageenans included dengue virus type 2 (DENV-2) [8,39,69], human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) [63,70], Sindbis virus [63], Influenza virus (IAV) [16], human metapneumovirus (HPNV) [11], porcine reproductive and respiratory syndrome virus (PRRSV) [25], rabies virus (RABV) [46], Rift Valley fever virus (RVFV) [67], vaccinia virus [62,63], Semliki forest virus and swine fever virus [62], hantaviruses [71], and the fish virus viral haemorrhagic septicaemia virus (VHSV) [unpublished results]. In addition, recent studies have demonstrated that iota and lambda carrageenans have a potent inhibitory activity against SARS-CoV2 [61,72,73], and other sulfated polysaccharides have been postulated as candidates for prevention and/or treatment of the COVID-19 [36,74,75]. Some authors have also reported activity against non-enveloped viruses such as human rhinovirus (HRV) [76], enterovirus 71 (EV-71) [24], and papillomavirus type 16 (HPV-16) [77]. An illustrative scheme of the antiviral action of seaweed polysaccharides is summarized in Figure 2, a compilation of antiviral activities shown by carrageenans is presented in Table 2, and more extensive information can be found in recent comprehensive reviews (e.g., [32]). However, the basis of this antiviral activity has not been clarified in many cases.

Effective against flu, coronaviruses, EBV & other glandular fever causing viruses and even chicken pox!

Dot
Dot
May 11, 2023 11:56 pm

Alamak! says:
May 11, 2023 at 11:51 pm

Don got played for $5M. Nothing to do with politics – just a dumb, kinda rich guy who won’t shut up when his lawyers tell him to. As for his political goals, they are as nothing compared to the $100m he takes in donations every year while pretending he will run for prez again. It’s all about the benjamins …

You’re pretty smug for someone who doesn’t realise judges live apart from society (they may not care what civil jurors think or “think) and you’ve just praised someone for being a grifter, which you are accusing Trump of doing too.

Dot
Dot
May 11, 2023 11:59 pm

Colonel Crispin Berka says:
May 11, 2023 at 11:42 pm

Dot says: May 11, 2023 at 11:05 pm

Yes it does.

That is a stupid statement, but it is late so I’ll let you off.

It’s the truth.

Her story is absurd and unverifiable with concocted corroborations.

Okay, that would be the “other good reasons for thinking he didn’t do it” but that’s not because of the rigged process, which is what I (and DC Draino) were talking about.

Her reasons for his guilt are her own whackiness. He pointed out what she named her cat or dog, and her husband, and she tried to imply this didn’t mean she was a nut, but rather Trump knew her really well.

It is absurd. He knew her really well after he met her for the first time at the front door of a clothes shop, they flirted all the way to third base then he “sexually assaulted” her in that shop (and no one heard anything right near the cash registers?).

It smacks of George Pell having three arms and JJ living in at least four but rather likely six possible timelines.

Furthermore everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

Yes, never said otherwise. And you have to question the process by which someone is proven guilty, which where all this Dems donor collusion enters into the justice picture.

Except you did.

Alamak!
Alamak!
May 12, 2023 12:03 am

I don’t generally support grifters making crazy claims decades later, but will make an exception for the Don due to his attitude and comments on Women.

On Judges, its hardly relevant when the headline reads “Jury finds Trump liable for sexual abuse, awards accuser $5M”.

Gabor
Gabor
May 12, 2023 12:51 am

Alamak! says:
May 12, 2023 at 12:03 am

There are 3 sides to every story, his, hers, and the truth.
Just because he was boasting about his conquests doesn’t mean they were all true, and even if they were, doesn’t mean all of the me-too allegations are also true.

There is a good reason why prior convictions are withheld from the jury in criminal cases.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
May 12, 2023 1:12 am

Perhaps if police did not reduce/drop the domestic violence charges against Setka a few years ago the wife would not have ended up trying to kill him.

John Setka’s estranged wife Emma Walters facing fresh charges of incitement to commit murder
Police claim Emma Walters schemed to “lure” her ex-husband, CFMEU boss John Setka, into a murder plot, allegedly telling a witness she had to “kill my children’s father to survive”.

Tom
Tom
May 12, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
May 12, 2023 4:08 am

David Rowe TDS. What else?

Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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Zatara
Zatara
May 12, 2023 4:43 am

Interesting fact about the Trump town-hall in front of CNN’s hand picked audience.

In US baseball they have a ‘mercy rule’ used when one team is being skunked by the other so badly that they call the match early to avoid humiliation.

Well it turns out that CNN cut the program short by 20 minutes to stop their pain.
The show was originally schedules for 90 minutes, they gave it up after 70.

What an odd thing to do to perhaps the highest rated CNN program so far this year?

Robert Sewell
May 12, 2023 5:03 am

Mother Lode:
Just in reply to your 9:03Pm post.
TIK History – very good article about Hitlers Socialism.

Diogenes
Diogenes
May 12, 2023 6:02 am

Motherload,
If you don’t have 5 hours there is a shorter version. https://youtu.be/mLHG4IfYE1w

Tik has been going down a rabbit hole with his latest videos, but it is a very interesting one , ie Nazism is a religion/cult and like communism is a gnostic one. He references James Lindsay’s Negation of the Real https://youtu.be/Lk_w2-8snWk which I have just caught up with, explains a lot of what we are seeing in the world right now. I am working my way through the 2nd in this series of talks.

Muddy
Muddy
May 12, 2023 6:03 am

Good morning!
To all regulars, irregulars, panregulars, and monitors (Hi Simon), I wish a healthy, happy & productive day ahead.
If you’ve been struggling a bit or a lot: Do the best you can with what you have. You are not alone. That doesn’t change your circumstances of course, but sometimes thinking we are the only person who struggles, is the tipping point. As someone told me years ago: God don’t make no junk.

The light is beginning to seep into the sky here.

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2023 6:09 am

I don’t generally support grifters making crazy claims decades later, but will make an exception for the Don due to his attitude and comments on Women.

Wow, what a balanced, objective, fair and neutral third party.

If Trump runs in the Republican primaries and wins or is defeated your entire schtick here is ruined.

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2023 6:10 am

LOL

Trump wins after 70 minutes by submission.

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2023 6:32 am

Wow

https://www.dicebreaker.com/categories/trading-card-game/news/magic-the-gathering-aftermath-youtube-prompts-pinkerton-investigation

Magic: The Gathering publisher Wizards of the Coast reportedly sent Pinkerton private investigators to a YouTube creator’s house last week to retrieve mistakenly sold cards from an unreleased set. In doing so, the massive company upset the creator’s home, allegedly harassed neighbours and spawned a wave of criticism from the tabletop community and beyond.

If I was an American and this happened to me, they’d be dead and I’d either be free or cheerfully out on bail.

What would Al Swearengen say?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 12, 2023 6:35 am

If you’ve been struggling a bit or a lot: Do the best you can with what you have

Ed, pay attention. This concerns you.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 12, 2023 6:43 am

Thanks, Robert and Diogenes.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 12, 2023 6:53 am

To all regulars, irregulars, panregulars, and monitors (Hi Simon)

I miss being called a TRAITOR. (Always pronounced in capitals – otherwise you yourself are a sell-out and worse than the people pushing vaccines.)

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 12, 2023 6:56 am

In further Handing Out Royal Middle Fingers news (the Hun):

A former royal aide who made a complaint of bullying against Meghan Markle has received a top honour from Prince William.

Jason Knauf has been made a Lieutenant of the Royal Victorian Order (RVO) in recognition of his services to the royal family.

The American-born aide, who worked for both Prince William and Princess Catherine as well as Prince Harry and Ms Markle, has been at the centre of multiple conflicts with the Sussexes.

Less a hammer blow, more a stiletto between the fourth and fifth rib. Glorious.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 12, 2023 6:58 am

I miss being called a TRAITOR

It’s TraIToR, you sick mentally ill denialist.

NB: REPORT THIS AD.

132andBush
132andBush
May 12, 2023 7:01 am

Sowing update:

Things are getting dry and the home straight is becoming a bit of a grind.
All canola bar some of the later irrigation stuff is up as is all the long wheat. Mid wheat is nearly through, give it a couple more days.
Half way through the lentils which should be finished late tomorrow.
Then it’s about 2,500acres of barley and durum.
I’ve had to drop back a gear and go deeper with all machinery working hard.
Still putting seed on moisture but we could do with 15mm.
Nothing for the next 14days either.

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2023 7:05 am

I found a paper that suggests unless you’re treating cancer, there might be a good reason to be cautious with mRNA vaccines.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abf1771

“Pol? reverse transcribes RNA and promotes RNA-templated DNA repair”

This was thought impossible until that research paper was published in 2021. So I can forgive people being ignorant.

So try searching for “do 2023 Australian flu vaccines contain mRNA”.

I am sure they do not after reading the manufacturer’s data supplied to the Commonwealth regulator, but try getting unbiased, non astroturfed results from Google.

Duck Duck Go is pretty cucked too.

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2023 7:12 am

I sort of stopped caring when I realised we’re about 1/6th of the population at most and some of the 5/6th majority absolutely hate us for opposing free stuff and a police state. Not “we live in the same community, these guys have a different point of view, that’s okay”, no, they want you locked up, jobless, gaslighted, shunned, outcast or destroyed for not agreeing with a massive foreign political machine which at the end of the day, is a gravy train for those who climb the greasy pole and removed from any real philosophy or concern that voters actually have there or here.

Maybe we’re the traitors?

It’s not so bad. Janus (004) was a cool dude and Charles I had nothing bu contempt for his prosecutors.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 12, 2023 7:12 am

Henry Ergas (unlinkable Australian) spanks Stain Grant, for using the ABC’s Coronation coverage to burnish his ‘Indigenous struggle’ credentials:

The Stan Grant on display was not the one who celebrated a “story of success” in The Australian Dream: a success thanks to which “65 per cent of Indigenous people in Australia are employed and living lives, materially and socio-economically, like those of other Australians”.

Rather, this was a Grant for whom European settlement had brought only death, dispossession and destruction, framed by attempts at extinction and extermination.

And the culprit, in Grant’s steam-bath of emotion, was the Crown. But that account has an obvious problem: it is not true. Eliding all of history’s complexities, the picture it paints of the past is not a portrait but a grotesque caricature.

To take but one example, it was not merely the Crown’s policy, forcefully communicated to successive governors, that Aborigines were entitled to the full protection of the laws; it was also that governors had to ensure the colonies’ “Aboriginal inhabitants have an absolute right of selection, prior to all Europeans, of reasonable portions of the choicest land, for their especial use and benefit, out of the very extensive districts over which, from time immemorial, (they) have exercised distinct, defined and absolute rights of proprietary and hereditary possession”.

It was that duty which, following The Sale of Waste Lands Act 1842 (Imp), led colonial governments to consistently include clauses in pastoral leases guaranteeing the right of “Aboriginal inhabitants and their descendants” to “occupy, dwell on and obtain food and water, make such dwellings, and take for food birds and animals, as they would have been entitled to if this (lease) had not been made”.

That those entitlements were infringed, as were rights to the full protection of the laws, is beyond doubt. It is, however, also beyond doubt that the colonial frontier was a vast, poorly policed area in which violence was endemic and the laws were flouted, misinterpreted or abused – not solely at Indigenous Australians’ expense.

No doubt where their ABC sits regarding including racial preference in the Constitution.

shatterzzz
May 12, 2023 7:17 am

You have to wonder about the mentality of some folk .. the best way to guarantee a rent increase is to lambast the landlord publically .. FFS!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-12/rental-freeze-cap-policy-lease-renewal-rental-affordability/102331576

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2023 7:23 am

Economists say rental price caps are a ‘viable’ short-term solution to the housing crisis, but some fear it could backfire

No, we don’t.

Oh I get it now.

Published by ABN News online business reporters, today.

Ms Owen said that, while the increase in rental assistance was welcome, the measure did not get to the heart of the problem.

“We’re seeing very low levels of supply, including vacancy rates hovering around 1 per cent,” she said.

“Even though we’ve seen this supplement, which could increase fortnightly assistance by $31, average rents have increased by about $113 in the past year alone.

Why would an asset class taxed at roughly 45% of the final sale price to bring to market suffer from a very low level of supply? If pricing caps work, then I guess it’s a real Scooby Doo mystery.

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2023 7:25 am

Mr Murray views rental control as being similar to smoothing out “sudden changes” in the rental market.

“That’s obviously very good for tenants to help them budget and not be surprised after 12 months that their rents going up 20 per cent, or some enormous figure like that,” he said.

Mr Harrison is hopeful something will be done soon.

“We’ve had welfare for the wealthy for so long. It’s about time that we just try and even things out a little bit,” Mr Harrison said.

“I’m not talking socialism. I’m just talking, like, common sense.”

Cameron Murray is a very poor man’s economist. His shtick of being an unbiased analyst was always revolting to pretend to out up with.

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2023 7:28 am

PUT up with

Damn you autocorrect!

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 12, 2023 7:46 am

’ “Aboriginal inhabitants have an absolute right of selection, prior to all Europeans, of reasonable portions of the choicest land, for their especial use and benefit, out of the very extensive districts over which, from time immemorial, (they) have exercised distinct, defined and absolute rights of proprietary and hereditary possession”.

It was that duty which, following The Sale of Waste Lands Act 1842 (Imp), led colonial governments to consistently include clauses in pastoral leases guaranteeing the right of “Aboriginal inhabitants and their descendants” to “occupy, dwell on and obtain food and water, make such dwellings, and take for food birds and animals, as they would have been entitled to if this (lease) had not been made”.

Pretty interesting stuff, I wonder if it can still be enforced?

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2023 7:48 am

https://ideas.repec.org/a/kap/decono/v165y2017i1d10.1007_s10645-016-9286-z.html

Mark A. C. Kattenberg & Wolter H. J. Hassink, 2017. “Who Moves Out of Social Housing? The Effect of Rent Control on Housing Tenure Choice,” De Economist, Springer, vol. 165(1), pages 43-66, March.

Who Moves Out of Social Housing? The Effect of Rent Control on Housing Tenure Choice (2017)

Mark A. C. Kattenberg

(Netherlands Bureau for Economic Policy Analysis)
Wolter H. J. Hassink

(Utrecht University School of Economics (U.S.E.) and IZA)

Abstract
Rent control provides substantial in-kind benefits to tenants of social housing. In the Netherlands these benefits equal almost 40% of the market rent on average. We show that rent control benefits for the 10% tenants with highest income are 5% points higher than the benefits for the 10% with lowest incomes. Next we provide evidence that rent control influences the housing tenure choice decision. We find that on average rent control reduces transitions within the social housing sector, but not transitions from the social housing sector. Only the 20% tenants with highest incomes postpone moves out of social housing in response to rent control. This suggests that the inequitable distribution of rent control benefits is prolonged by the reduction in transition rates out of social housing. It also suggests that recent policy in the Netherlands that reduces rent control benefits for high income households can increase the mobility of those affected.

—————

The upshot of this bad policy is that rent control has been extended to the middle class as a “temporary government programme”.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 12, 2023 7:55 am

Sorry to harp on about renewables but I’ve been thinking about the cleanup and rehabilitation cost of these vast wind and solar facilities once they pass profitable usefulness – that’s not the same as usability by the way.

AEMO’s whole plan for renewable energy relies solely on big private companies negotiating with landholders or just buying land to build large installations.
AEMO told me that this is entirely a private business matter and not within their remit. They are transmission, not generation.

The big power lines running from the renewables to the big grid lines will also be private and any easement agreement not involve AEMO or government.

Over a decade or two we would expect to see ownership of the facilities change and the possible insolvency of some entities. More likely when the use by date of the facility is looming and big rehabilitation costs are imminent.

A handy foreign shelf company could squeeze a few more dollars out of the system without any intention of abiding by the agreement.

No farmer or landholder could possibly afford remove the infrastructure if they are left carrying the can. The land could become a worthless junkyard and a dangerous one at that.

At the very least our governments should indemnify landholders if this scenario plays out. General good – private cost.

Roger
Roger
May 12, 2023 8:01 am

Rather, this was a Grant for whom European settlement had brought only death, dispossession and destruction, framed by attempts at extinction and extermination.

Stan has a book to sell…he’s riding the vibe all the way to the bank.

flyingduk
flyingduk
May 12, 2023 8:03 am

In the Oz today:

Bushfires ‘were a trigger for La Nina’
The Black Summer bushfire catas­trophe coughed up so much smoke it may have fuelled the global onset of La Nina in 2020, research says.

wow, its almost like mother earth has some sort of feedback mechanism that has kept its climate in a narrow range, rather than ‘running away’ to become either a frozen iceberg or a fiery hell for the last x billion years …. almost….

PS, higher temperatures increase cloud cover which causes lower temperatures also 😉

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 12, 2023 8:04 am

Once your bird mincers reach their use by date you could repurpose them as Grape Arbors.
Sure, after a while you’ll need a cherry picker to get at the grapes, but perhaps the Government will pay for that too?

Crossie
Crossie
May 12, 2023 8:05 am

Dr Faustus says:
May 12, 2023 at 7:12 am
Henry Ergas (unlinkable Australian) spanks Stain Grant, for using the ABC’s Coronation coverage to burnish his ‘Indigenous struggle’ credentials:

Stain Grant, I like it.

Crossie
Crossie
May 12, 2023 8:09 am

A handy foreign shelf company could squeeze a few more dollars out of the system without any intention of abiding by the agreement.
No farmer or landholder could possibly afford remove the infrastructure if they are left carrying the can. The land could become a worthless junkyard and a dangerous one at that.
At the very least our governments should indemnify landholders if this scenario plays out. General good – private cost.

Classic carpetbagger behaviour, swoop in to seize an opportunity, disadvantage the locals and then disappear when things get dicey. The egregious thing is that both our major parties are complicit.

Crossie
Crossie
May 12, 2023 8:12 am

PS, higher temperatures increase cloud cover which causes lower temperatures also ?

They don’t teach that sort of thing in schools any more, there is no time left over after all the social engineering is taught.

Indolent
Indolent
May 12, 2023 8:13 am
Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 12, 2023 8:15 am

Me, earlier-
propose that any Aboriginal Australians can only have access to the Voice if they qualify under the F.L.O.R.A. and F.A.U.N.A. act…
Longwinded gags aside, I’m completely serious. Conservatives have really been led up the path by chasing the disseminating left into obfuscation, endless uncontestible claims of racism, and the deliberate hermeticism of a Magic Culture which is both unknowable yet sacrosanct to non-Aboriginals, while being both so fragile and doomed that it needs constant sustenance by non-Aboriginal inputs, yet so robust and undeniably right-on that it’s reigned unchanged for a hundred thousand years.
A very telling wedge to drive in would be to ask the current Aboriginal rulers like Grant and Burney the two part question,
Does an individual’s genetic Aboriginal heritage mean that they are always and forever locked out of the bodily health, wealth and wisdom that an Aboriginal like you has been granted by the Australian nation?
Does an individual’s cultural Aboriginal heritage mean that they are always and forever locked out of the health, wealth and wisdom that an Aboriginal like you has been granted by Australia?
You’ll never get an answer of course, because our current Aboriginal priest caste is well practised in sidestepping the implications their own power, and dismissing their own success with a bit of p*ssing-down-the-pyramid.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 12, 2023 8:22 am

ooooh

looks like “i am not an expert just posting it for interest sake” hour is early today

Pogria
Pogria
May 12, 2023 8:23 am

Muddysays:
May 12, 2023 at 6:03 am
Good morning!
To all regulars, irregulars, panregulars, and monitors (Hi Simon), I wish a healthy, happy & productive day ahead.
If you’ve been struggling a bit or a lot: Do the best you can with what you have. You are not alone. That doesn’t change your circumstances of course, but sometimes thinking we are the only person who struggles, is the tipping point. As someone told me years ago: God don’t make no junk.

The light is beginning to seep into the sky here.

Words I try to live by everyday Muddy. Thanks for the reminder. 😀

Roger
Roger
May 12, 2023 8:23 am

‘Brits are dying in their tens of thousands – and we don’t really have any idea why’

Because they’re getting older and fatter.

Next!

Indolent
Indolent
May 12, 2023 8:25 am

looks like “i am not an expert just posting it for interest sake” hour is early today

And good morning to you too.

flyingduk
flyingduk
May 12, 2023 8:29 am

It should be no news to this forum, but this snippet of ex Pfizer VP Mike Yeadon encapsulates my ‘it was a deliberate, world wide campaign’ conclusion regarding the COVID shots

https://twitter.com/i/status/1654829752090329088

shatterzzz
May 12, 2023 8:33 am

Rather, this was a Grant for whom European settlement had brought only death, dispossession and destruction, framed by attempts at extinction and extermination.
IF, based on sTan’s, theorizing if there were sooo many 251s dispossessed by the arrival of ‘whitie” how did all the 251s that now populate Oz between Alice Springs and NT get there .. no mention by Bruce or references in “Tales My Nanna Told Me’ to the great migration to escape the scourge of the “white fella” ..

flyingduk
flyingduk
May 12, 2023 8:35 am

And from the ‘American Thinker’, a short summary of the US debt situation, Australia isn’t that far along yet, but (notwithstanding Chalmers- single – probably illusory – ‘surplus I announce tonight’) but the trajectory is the same…

The increase of federal debt over the last 22 years was 543%, or about 25%/year. Let’s repeat that so that it might sink in: over the last 22 years, our population has grown about 1% a year. Our wages about 0.5% per year. But our government spending has increased an average of 25% a year? How can that be? Why aren’t we broke? Just a matter of time?

Pro tip – you ARE broke… ‘slowly then suddenly’

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
May 12, 2023 8:37 am

Don’t have the link but listened to a clip on Rising with journalist David Zweig. Zweig has been one of the best for looking into Covid matters in particular school closures and masks.

In the clip he said Stanford University had early in 2020 come up with a PCR test that would show who was asymptomatic and not infectious.

This would have had major implications for work and school. CDC were aware of the tests availability as they wrote about it soon after.

Zweig did not speculate as to why the test never used.

For those who want to look further Zweig is on Twitter and was one of the journalists who went to Twitter HQ to look into Twitter files.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 12, 2023 8:37 am

the innumerate posting the incomprehensible for the gullible

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2023 8:44 am

F$@ing Pinkertons, cocksuckers
I had a nightmare of a f@#$ing viper rising up over the camp, it was the Pinkertons!

sfw
sfw
May 12, 2023 8:50 am

Dot – “On that housing stuff, a well to do (eastern suburbs) friend of mine said he WFH the other day, waiting for a plumber to sort out a blocked drain; waited all day, plumber refused to quote him, turned up at 7:30 PM, did job in under half an hour and charged $900. Likely he won’t pay and I don’t blame him.”

What a dog act that your mate does if he doesn’t pay the plumber. That plumber has probably got weeks of 12 hour days lined up ahead of him, I wouldn’t be amazed if he was on his first job for that day at 6am, often it’s hard to say how long a job will take, plumbers do their best to attend to blocked drains and the fact that he got there at 7.30 at night shows he was doing his best, he could’ve easily knocked back the job. After a long day and then doing emergency work why shouldn’t he charge what the market can bear?

If your dog mate doesn’t pay I wouldn’t be at all amazed if one morning he found that his pipes were again blocked, but this time by a bag of rapid set in the IO.

Crossie
Crossie
May 12, 2023 8:51 am

Indolent says:
May 12, 2023 at 8:17 am
illuminatibot
@iluminatibot
EMF RADIATION TEST shows that SITTING IN AN ELECTRIC Car.
It’s LIKE STANDING NEAR A RUNNING MICROWAVE.

If true this could be a game changer.

132andBush
132andBush
May 12, 2023 8:54 am

Farmer Gez says:
May 12, 2023 at 7:55 am
Sorry to harp on about renewables

Mate, no need to apologise.
Keep it up.

Found out this morning the people I work for are involved with other farmers to try and stop a huge solar eyesore being developed in the immediate area of their home base of operations down in Vic.
Lawyer engaged.

As Crossie said, it’s Carpetbagger behaviour.
Hard to tell if it’s crony capitalism dressed up as carpet bagging or vice versa.

Roger
Roger
May 12, 2023 8:54 am

Local government funding cut by 0.5% in the budget.

Prior to the election, the Liars promised “fair increases” in funding.

Crossie
Crossie
May 12, 2023 8:55 am

Indolent says:
May 12, 2023 at 8:17 am
illuminatibot
@iluminatibot
EMF RADIATION TEST shows that SITTING IN AN ELECTRIC Car.
It’s LIKE STANDING NEAR A RUNNING MICROWAVE.
If true this could be a game changer.

Another thought, how much of the radiation in an electric car is due to all the electronics that are present in normal cars? I would like to see it tested.

johanna
johanna
May 12, 2023 8:56 am

TheirABC claims that a guy who owns 10 rental properties is a ‘mogul.’ 🙂

He said the increase was justified, because the property needed to produce “positive cash flow” to fund repairs.

“If a tenant does need repairs, I need to be able to afford the repairs to actually help the tenant and make sure that they live comfortably,” he said.

“I believe people have forgotten that rents haven’t increased in many, many years.”
A man in his mid 30s stands in front of a house wearing a blazer and t-shirt with sunglasses on top of his head.
Scott Levoune says a rental freeze would be bad news for tenants and investors.(ABC News: John Gunn)

The property mogul says the Greens policy suggestion of a national rental freeze and future rental price caps would negatively affect tenants.

“What investors are going to do is find reasons to remove tenants from the property and then put it up to market rate,” Mr Levoune said.

“[Landlords are] going to remove the tenant out of the property. They’re going to increase the rent where it’s going to go to, which means every year there’s going to be more tenants looking for properties.”

What does the word actually mean?

mogul
(mo?g?l IPA Pronunciation Guide )
Word forms: plural moguls
1. countable noun
A Mogul was a Muslim ruler in India in the sixteenth to eighteenth centuries.
2. countable noun
A mogul is an important, rich, and powerful businessman, especially one in the news, film, or television industry.
…an international media mogul.
…Hollywood movie moguls.
Synonyms: tycoon, lord [old-fashioned], baron [old-fashioned], notable

What does that make Harry Triguboff? God? Or more likely at TheirABC, Satan.

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2023 8:59 am

What a dog act that your mate does if he doesn’t pay the plumber.

He refused to give him a quote and turned up and charged $900 for 30 minutes of labour.

Calm down, have a Snickers.

cohenite
May 12, 2023 9:02 am

Pretty interesting stuff, I wonder if it can still be enforced?

No. The Constitution intervened.

132andBush
132andBush
May 12, 2023 9:02 am

It’s LIKE STANDING NEAR A RUNNING MICROWAVE.

Something we all do on a daily basis.

Crossie
Crossie
May 12, 2023 9:02 am

sfw says:
May 12, 2023 at 8:50 am
Dot – “On that housing stuff, a well to do (eastern suburbs) friend of mine said he WFH the other day, waiting for a plumber to sort out a blocked drain; waited all day, plumber refused to quote him, turned up at 7:30 PM, did job in under half an hour and charged $900. Likely he won’t pay and I don’t blame him.”

Something else a lot of people forget is that no plumbers live in eastern suburbs, they cannot afford it no matter how much they charge. This plumber probably lives way out west and it may take him an hour or more to get to an eastern suburbs job and the same to go home.

I think I read somewhere that some residents of eastern suburbs and Sydney’s north shore were aware of this and tried to come up with something where tradespeople could be nearer to their areas.

Jorge
Jorge
May 12, 2023 9:03 am

The VIC Liberal Party needs an Al Swearengen as leader. His address to their meeting this morning would hit the spot.

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2023 9:04 am

I don’t think it’s fair for a plumber to charge $300 per hour commuting if they refuse to give you a quote!

Roger
Roger
May 12, 2023 9:06 am

Does this mean Elbow is an aspiring property mogul?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 12, 2023 9:06 am

“Mercy Rule”: CNN Abruptly Cut Trump Town Hall Short by Twenty Minutes

I wonder if it was internal pressure that forced CNN to pull the plug early? The CNN kolkhozniks seem to be revolting.

John Nolte as ever has a fine pithy article about the disaster:

Nolte: Trump’s Glorious Town Hall Performance Might’ve Delivered the Final Killshot to CNN (11 May)

His pet name for AOC is rather fun, as his rendering of Fox as “Cuck News”.

bespoke
bespoke
May 12, 2023 9:07 am

Something we all do on a daily basis.

Not me, Bush.

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 12, 2023 9:07 am

Well if he won’t quote don’t engage him. Simple.

Crossie
Crossie
May 12, 2023 9:10 am

Dot says:
May 12, 2023 at 9:04 am
I don’t think it’s fair for a plumber to charge $300 per hour commuting if they refuse to give you a quote!

How can he give a quote if he hasn’t seen the problem? All I have ever been quoted was the call out fee and then informed that it will be plus parts and labour.

flyingduk
flyingduk
May 12, 2023 9:10 am

Don’t have the link but listened to a clip on Rising with journalist David Zweig. Zweig has been one of the best for looking into Covid matters in particular school closures and masks. In the clip he said Stanford University had early in 2020 come up with a PCR test that would show who was asymptomatic and not infectious.

Mike Yeadon (former Pfizer VP in charge of respiratory illness programs) was pretty clear that few if any respiratory virus diseases can be infectious whilst asymptomatic. This makes sense – humans are pretty good at identifying others who are sick, and avoiding them (would you sit on a but next to a person who was coughing, sweating, spitting?). This means evolution would have eliminated respiratory viruses which caused obvious signs of illness *unless* said signs were essential to spread.

It follows that asymptomatic spread of respiratory viruses is a furphy.

calli
calli
May 12, 2023 9:13 am

Correct, Milt. He should tell you his call out charge and his hourly rate. It isn’t difficult.

If they don’t they’re probably shonks and ripoff merchants. Do not engage.

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2023 9:16 am

EMF RADIATION TEST shows that SITTING IN AN ELECTRIC Car.
It’s LIKE STANDING NEAR A RUNNING MICROWAVE.

This is retarded. Anyone notice anything cooling OUTSIDE of their microwave?

Your house like has 120 A supply at 220 V, or a potentially constant demand/supply of roughly 26 kW.

The electricity from Bayswater, Blowering, AGL’s endless fields of sunshine and Uranquinty gas fied turbines travel by Poynting vectors, electricity doesn’t travel in wires like a chain being pulled in a tube.

Your house has an electric field probably 20 times as strong as your microwave’s exterior on peak demand.

Do you notice yourself cooking in the middle of summer or winter?

Crossie
Crossie
May 12, 2023 9:16 am

Dot says:
May 12, 2023 at 9:04 am
I don’t think it’s fair for a plumber to charge $300 per hour commuting if they refuse to give you a quote!

It’s not so much the travelling but during that time missing out on another job that could pay that much.

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2023 9:17 am

All I have ever been quoted was the call out fee and then informed that it will be plus parts and labour.

…but he didn’t do that, allegedly!

calli
calli
May 12, 2023 9:18 am

Exclusive of parts of course. If the job is big or complicated, like an old sewer dig up, call out rate plus one hour to diagnose the problem. They can usually tell, but in old houses, who knows? Often a guesstimate.

He could give you an hourly on machine hire or man days, pipe cost and tipping/cleanup.

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2023 9:19 am

It’s not so much the travelling but during that time missing out on another job that could pay that much.

It was the last job he did that day and he charged $1800 per hour for labour, after refusing to give a quote.

Crossie
Crossie
May 12, 2023 9:22 am

calli says:
May 12, 2023 at 9:13 am
Correct, Milt. He should tell you his call out charge and his hourly rate. It isn’t difficult.

If they don’t they’re probably shonks and ripoff merchants. Do not engage.

True. It may be difficult to get someone to come out if they live far away but the tradesman needs to be honest about the likely costs or refuse the job.

calli
calli
May 12, 2023 9:23 am

If you have a helio handy that helps. Sometimes just finding the IO is like discovering King Tut’s tomb. Then there are the kindly neighbours who have connected their stormwater into your sewer.

Always exciting to find that.

johanna
johanna
May 12, 2023 9:24 am

Yes, calli, that is the basis on which I have always hired trades. They tell you the callout charge, hourly rate and parts are extra.

This guy is definitely shonky, might not even be a licensed plumber. Got caught once with a guy like that to fix my washing machine. I was desperate, he smelled it, and after depriving me of $300 for a half hour visit the damn thing still didn’t work properly. Turned out he was a well known fraudster who couldn’t fix anything.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 12, 2023 9:26 am

Waiter! This word salad is full of links.

Mai’s oui. Would Sir prefer some “Convoy”?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxp6OG8izQg

Crossie
Crossie
May 12, 2023 9:27 am

calli says:
May 12, 2023 at 9:18 am
Exclusive of parts of course. If the job is big or complicated, like an old sewer dig up, call out rate plus one hour to diagnose the problem. They can usually tell, but in old houses, who knows? Often a guesstimate.

Found that out the hard way when the pipes were damaged even though the house was built in 1977. I didn’t challenge the final bill as it was a big job involving machinery and replacing pipes for almost 10 metres.

  1. My accountant informs me that I have made an obscene amount of money during the year, No amount of money…

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