Don’t worry about Twiggy .. 1st mention of “incentives” and he’ll be 1st in line .. LOL!
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Good. We’re stopping off there on a cruise soon and I don’t want trouble. Selfish I know.
Apart from the victims not having the ability to shoot back, (which, incidentally could have ended the massacre much sooner had any of the victims been armed)
How is it different to a combat situation?
No, but yesterday The Times/The Australian/CIA were running ‘reports’ of four Russian aircraft being shot down in a day. No pictures, no video. Just “Ukrainian sources.”
I see Zelensky met the pope at the weekend but didn’t bother changing out of his pyjamas. Long story short: Francis offered to mediate an end to the war but Zelensky gave him Washington’s answer: ‘No, thanks – onward to regime change.’
For me the comments make the online articles more interesting. You get to see how out of touch the journalists or politicians are compared to the comments.
Roger
Indeed it is, just not in the way that the pollies think.
Roger
Confirmed by Bourne at
This is such a revolting trade. The entire pantomime now involving men laying on a hospital bed as if they labored to deliver the child is absurd and grotesque.
With regards it being difficult or not to hit and kill people at close range with minimal firearms training?
I would suggest there is a lot.
Dean is easily pleased. Like the rest of the Sky ensemble (excepting Rita and Bernardi), his default is pom-pom waver for the Liberal Party. Nuclear advocacy of the Chris Kenny variety is founded on the false premise that ‘climate change’ is real and net zero must be accepted as a public policy aspiration. For the reasons spelled out by Peter Smith at Quadrant recently, what we should be doing energy-wise is ramping up our cheap, abundant coal and gas – not dressing up capitulation to falsehoods in the drag of nuclear machismo. Dutton actually boasted last Thursday night of the Morrison government’s superior-to-Labor emissions reduction performance. As for the Voice, I’m not handing a bouquet to Dutton because he has decided after 12 months of window shopping to oppose the destruction of the Australian Constitution.
Is it a good sign the bloke cooking your Pad Thai is hocking up phlegm balls? A multiculti tradition we unrefined corks are blind to?
It’s absurd and grotesquely funny.
There’s no mental illness there at all.
You’re making the assumption that everyone just stood there like a paper target and let themselves be shot…
I highly recommend you go to your local paintball club/field and try it out.
You would understand fairly quickly what I mean by how difficult it is to hit moving targets. (And these people are not panicking and frantically running for their lives)
Shooting even unarmed people in a confined space would be harder than you think.
Also, how many spent 5.56 and 7.62mm casings did you find at port Arthur??
I’m not up on the details, the count of spent casing would give a good insight into what the shot to hit ratio was.
Peter Smith (supra):
Dig and Drill, Baby, Dig and Drill.
The pre-selection of Deeming is, circulus in probando, being held up as an example of the allegedly unrepresentative nature of the Liberal membership.
It might be funny as a skit, but in reality, it is absurd and grotesque.
I think, in his advocacy of nuclear, Dutton is being careful to avoid a trap – if he comes right out and says we should go back to cheap abundant fossil fuels then Labor will seize upon it and, ignoring all else, denounce his ‘climate denialism’ (or whatever made up word they use these days) and the MSM would report nothing else. If he talks nuclear then he is not frightening people about climate change but he is proposing a way to keep energy cheaper – which people care about.
It would also screw up the unions whose superfunds are heavily invested in solar and wind.
I do often sense that there is some strategic nous tucked away in his team somewhere. Limited in its scope so far but baby steps…
Confirmed by Russian sources including TASS, Zvezda, Mash and Baza, at least in the reports I’ve seen. I don’t know what the circumstances were however. I’ve seen a few photos and vids but I haven’t been interested enough to go after geolocation data or following up the story in more detail. I wouldn’t’ve thought the loss of a couple of helicopters and two Sukhois would be especially surprising, it’s a dangerous battlefield.
/straps on tinfoil…
On Bryant.
He did it, all alone, thanks to some really poor enforcement of existing laws which should have seen the nutcase not holding firearms licenses.
What is without doubt is Politicians/ “charities” and pressure groups already being lined up to ram through laws thieving rifles off the law abiding and screwing over people engaged in lawful use of a tool/recreational device as soon as they had their next “massacre”.
One of the most astroturfed and run on rails bits of crap till covid laws hit the books.
The Voice hasn’t even had a date set for the Referendum and the governments are falling over themselves giving money to people who demand reconciliation, but have never done a damn thing, or made ant significant contribution to it.
In fact, the problems first created when the Labor government set up their policy of segregation in uneconomical townships have gotten worse.
The Aboriginal industry now costs what? $34 Billion a year for less tha a million people. How much more do they get from the mining companies? Does anyone know?
Sod this for a joke.
C.L., it happened. It involved, IIRC, the shooting down of a Mi-8 helicopter or two that were performing electronic warfare (jamming radar), once they were downed, the two aircraft operating in that area of Bryansk were in serious danger to AA fire.
The ACT Drumgold hearings have more recesses than an octagonal room.
Dover – I’ve seen reports on international sites. The ammo dump in far western Ukraine was a pretty large bang from the photos. I saw mention of the British DU ammo being destroyed but DU is nearly harmless (except when propelled by a tank round). Even yellowcake which isn’t depleted is nearly harmless – you’d have to sit on a barrel of it for many days even to approach the industrial annual limit for radioactivity work. Which is ridiculously tight, as it is.
The main issue with uranium isn’t the uranium, it’s the daughter decay products – which are responsible for 12 times the radiation of natural uranium. When they separate depleted uranium all those daughter radionuclides like radium and polonium are stripped out, so DU is really not very radioactive, and the main decay mode is alpha, which is the least harmful type. Breathing the dust isn’t that great, but smoking or even eating a banana is probably similar.
“dover0beachsays:
May 15, 2023 at 12:04 pm
Pogria, I had a team of blokes about two years ago remove about four large ti-trees and they were done in well under two hours. I didn’t get them to mulch though, just to saw the wood down so I could use it to border the garden beds out front and back. Very efficient and capable.”
Dover, my trees are those awful Conifers that were planted on property lines after the War as windbreaks. Most of them are over forty feet high and very spread out. I am having the six nearest the house taken down for safety and to let the sunlight in. It is awesome watching the mega-mulcher at work. I am taking photos but don’t know yet how to upload some so I can link to them. I used to use Photobucket but I believe that has gone by the wayside.
Probably not.
dover0beach says:
May 15, 2023 at 11:44 am
Has the MSM here in Oz even touched the recent destruction of two large ammo depos in Ukraine? The last of which appears to have involved a stock pile of depleted uranium ammunition.
Not that I’ve seen. I’ve often noticed that our MSM are sometimes 24 hours behind in covering European news, so if they are going to cover it at all, it will be tonight – but don’t hold your breath. This is especially true as the conflict drags on. When/if the anticipated Ukrainian counter-offensive gets underway, the news cycle will shift to current day. Remember the media maxim: ‘if it bleeds, it leads’.
Even if the ammo depot destruction is covered, it may be brief ‘cos it doesn’t fit the narrative.
The temporary spike in local radiation readings was caused, according to some reports I’ve seen, because the strike destroyed a cache of depleted uranium shells (ex UK) amongst other armaments/explosives. I don’t know whether the reports on the depleted uranium shells is accurate.
Err, no.
The listing of Mr Joe Vialls many conspiracy theories involving Mossad gives something of an insight into the workings of Joe’s mind and enables readers to reasonably conclude that Joe might not be a “trusted source on the innernet”.
Here’s the thing.
If you link to the likes of Joe Vialls, be prepared to have his “findings” and consequently your judgement to be challenged.
Now go put a crimp in someone’s IV, Nurse Betty.
You know you want to.
I’m assuming that assessment is based on either your real world experience exterminating defenceless people??
It’s either that or you’ve been playing too much Grand Theft Auto…
Here’s an interesting fact.. under Barnett (in 2017) the average WA annual bill for electricity was $396. In 2022, it was $766.
Avoid angering the Labor Party. This rationale for capitulation never changes.
mole at 12:33
Quite so.
A well prepared trap by pressure groups which was rammed through by politicians does not mean there was a pre-conceived Mossad plot, aided and abetted by pollies and police, to murder 35 people to implement gun control.
It was simply opportunist.
But let’s not kid ourselves.
If a referendum to place constitutional control on weapons had been run shortly after Port Arthur, it probably would have got up. This wasn’t politicians acting against the will of a vast majority.
The main issue with uranium isn’t the uranium, it’s the daughter decay products – which are responsible for 12 times the radiation of natural uranium.
While idly feculating yesterday I had a brain fart.
You know how Euro/US countries use shittons of salt keeping roads de-iced each winter.
What if you used radioactive material in the road surface instead to keep the roadway nice and toasty?
I mean a lot of truckies might get arse cancer, but its a price im sure we are all happy to pay.
I’d be very surprised if the Russian Army wasn’t using DU ammunition. They’d be stupid not to, and the Russia nuclear fuel industry is by far the largest in the world so they’d have lots of DU available to them.
One of the few observations I have of the Ukraine-Russia war is that in terms of the ‘information space’ the Ukrainians have dominated.
Bryant murdered them. That’s reality. You can’t bend it to a narrative. Evidently he did not find the task too difficult. Hence I don’t think it was “too” difficult, he was motivated and faced no resistance.
The idea that something is wrong if it is a statistical outlier (perhaps not always in the true technical sense, but by merely exceeding the predicted value more than surrounding data) is absurd, all real world data would then form datasets with either r^2 = 1 or 0 and with no error terms.
If a referendum to place constitutional control on weapons had been run shortly after Port Arthur, it probably would have got up. This wasn’t politicians acting against the will of a vast majority.
Using a “crisis” where existing laws failed to stop a well known (locally) to ram through a wish list allowing property confiscation and harassment of people following the law was just shit.
Same has been done under the crisis “climate change”.
Same is done under the “reconciliation”.
Same is done in WA to “save the fish”
No action government takes regarding peoples property has fallen on the citizens side in decades.
Shooting a particular targeted individual?
Maybe.
But spraying shots around a tiny overcrowded cafe on a Sunday afternoon at lunchtime?
Shit, even your misses are likely to be hits.
BTW, someone said upthread that all victims were killed with single head shots.
Source please.
And don’t say Joe.
I never spoke about whether he murdered then, you’ve moved away from the point which was that shooting people effectively with minimal training is easy…
It isn’t
No, shooting people at close range in a room of a building.
I am kind of astonished that Sam Maiden is still reporting on the Higgins enquiry for news.com.au. How so when she was so much a part of what went on? Surely at least there needs to be some disclosure at the end of her articles.
Real Deal
Disclosure is for non-leftards. Leftards are allowed to do whatever they want.
Particularly if we are dealing with – fortunately – a very low number of events which aren’t precisely a homogenous population.
So statistically it is meaningless.
And, even if we try to come up with comparable contemporaneous events where the offender could expect to meet no armed resistance (ie not in the USA) we get reasonably similar results.
I looked at Dunblane and Hungerford in the UK. The “kill” rate in both instances was around 50% of about 30 “hits”.
Three (3) bullets in each incident hit in a slightly different spot and you are at 60%.
That is how fragile Joe Vialls alleged “analysis” was.
Bryant couldn’t of done it.
Because guns are loud.
FMD.
Anyway, it looks like the attempt to turn this site into and Alex Jones clone has fallen flat.
Except for the Tin Solderer and Nurse Betty (who has a bit of a fetish about mass murder anyway).
** warning ** steep irony gradient ahead ** warning **
escape from California visualised:
https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1657858453912666116?s=20
Sigh.
Because.
Nobody.
Was.
Shooting.
Back.
And:
Maybe the shooter workshopped it first.
On a…. simulator.
Last night SBS reported Ukr had downed a Russki hypersonic missile using a US Patriot missile. Sounded very sus to me but who knows. Also two Russian helicopters and a fighter downed. No mention of any Uke setbacks.
Impossible to believe a single syllable they put to air.
Unquestionably Muddy. Zelensky is very familiar with the media (from his previous life) and he knows how to ‘work a crowd’. Ukraine has easily won the information war.
President Putin on the other hand is not a ‘likeable character’ insomuch as he doesn’t seem at ease with the media and is often pictured unsmiling. This suits the media narrative of a ‘dangerous sullen man intent on re-creating the former USSR’. Putin keeps his family life private (largely) whereas Zelelnsky’s wife is very attractive and is often in the media.
On the plus side, most Cats are deeply distrustful of the MSM and , as I’ve said previously, Cats are probably among the best informed on the historical aspects of how this evolved over more than 30 years. Some consider the armed conflict was effectively inevitable. That is not to say Cats do/must support Russia – just that Cats understand the history leading up to the armed conflict. Lord knows the MSM have paid scant regard.
To answer my own question.
Surely at least there needs to be some disclosure at the end of her articles.
Don’t drive on the wrong side of the road when you are p#ssed out of your brain.
More avoiding giving them ammunition.
Personally I would love to see a leader who doesn’t walk on eggshells at all. One that does what Trump did of talking over the media and to the Australian people. Softly-softly still leaves in place the implied acceptance of AGW orthodoxy which impoverishes our lived more than just financially.
Everywhere a conservative goes in Australia they are made to feel they are an outsider. Wherever progressives go they raise their voices and started belting out their memorised talking points stentoriously and unabashedly – they are just that devoid of courtesy, or even curiosity as to what someone else might say.
In the meantime it would be useful to get some non-progressive ideas out there. For example, giving offence should not be an offence. Especially when people now take offence at the very thought that someone disagrees with them. Some classical economics. The economy is what people and businesses do – they create the wealth. Every person who works to produce something contributes during the day, and then in their free time when they are enjoying themselves they are doing it again. The government does not create wealth. But increasing taxes reduces the potential for economic growth (unless they have stumbled onto something that can help people and businesses – a port, a road, a hospital, etc).
I better stop there or I will go on and on and on.
I mean an Australian who talks over the media and to the Australian people – as Trump did in the US.
The last version of the Patriot missile can do in excess of Mach 4 (nearing hypersonic speeds) the Kinzhal does around Mach 10 – Mach 13 (“some sources”).
The Patriot isn’t chasing the Kinzhals, it has to intercept them.
The Kinzhals are not jinking madly like a Falklands era Harrier fighter ace.
The old US ASAT missile could hit > Mach 12.
I am a Qlder and not at all impressed with the this. An awful idea which I cannot recall ever being discussed in election campaigns, which will result in public (my) funds going to waste… again.
the this… hmm, what is the this? maybe just this.
This is why we need recall elections and the power of initiative in a limited sense to repeal bad laws.
Tim Blair on those “nazis” in Washington:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/05/report-san-diego-border-patrol-agents-arrested-afghan-national-on-the-fbis-terror-watchlist-after-crossing-the-border-illegally/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=the-gateway-pundit&utm_campaign=dailypm&utm_content=2023-05-14
The border is secure, Mr Majorkas?
How many terrorists have gotten through the border?
How many IEDs?
Mr Biden, your borders are as porous as Aunt Mauds knickers!
It’s fiction. We made it up.
Thankyou PM, I didn’t say it because it didn’t need to be said. Its a variant of why military veterans tend not to speak about their experiences with their civilian relatives and friends: if you weren’t there (or in this case, sufficiently experienced to understand), there’s no point telling you because you won’t understand, if you were, I don’t need to tell you because you already do.
How many actual military veterans here agree with Dot and Sancho that Bryants alleged efforts were nothing remarkable?
By putting the Uranium path forward Dutton will undermine Albo’s path to renewables which is built on the assumption of an almighty contribution by private investors who already might be questioning the profit margins. Similarly so might be the big super funds. Yes he’s thrown the cat amongst the pigeons.
And people wonder how ‘conspiracy theories’ get a foothold.
Last tree being demolished. This was the largest and the most dangerous. Multiple large trunks growing out of the base. One of the trunks came down in a windstorm over Easter. The tree blokes have climbed up this one as it is only fifteen feet or so opposite my chook yard. They are taking it down in pieces instead of dropping the whole trunk. Damn good job so far.
The last place I was at we had Islanders take down the trees. The older men were on the ground and the teenagers flew up the trees like they were coconut palms. They were huge old Eucalypts that time. Just as awesome to watch.
said they would reconvene at 2pm (but I notice they haven’t started yet):
https://www.cjsinquiry.act.gov.au/public-hearings/livestream
Mother Lode, thank you for that excellent response.
Hmmm going to be more unrest in Thailand. From what I was told when over there at Christmas rural voters think this guy is disrespectful to the Royal family. Plenty of corruption going on and usual Thai election shenanigans as well, mates mrs had family members approached to vote for them for a payment.
The guy is already talking tough especially rightly or wrongly about lesse majeste, if he continues like this I foresee tanks on the streets of Bangkok again before the end of his term:
https://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/thais-vote-overwhelmingly-for-democracy-parties-reject-military/news-story/91b83d5329fa0c832035cd41675f61e7
According to the forensic experts, Bryant reportedly killed 20 and wounded 12 in the first *90 seconds* in the Broad arrow, almost all with head shots whilst firing from the hip. – he killed more than 1/2 the victims within less than 2 minutes – not hours, and the official record shows most were killed with single head shots – he *did not* corral them all, and spend his time popping them off at leisure, including those only wounded by the first shot.
This makes more sense than many would give it credit for. In the location (an historic penal settlement) in a cafe where visitors would not know if ‘set up’ convicts would enter and start shooting people and the first people shot would not be known to other patrons so they would not know if it was part of an elaborate ‘location centric’ show.
I expect a dozen were dead (in less than a minute) before anyone really understood that this was real and then it was too late because Bryant was on a roll and only a concealed carry patron could have realistically had a ‘shot’ at stopping him. But alas we don’t have conceal carry laws in Australia.
Even as they stampeded towards any exit there would have been a backup because of door size and they would not be moving much so he could just pop them off ‘from the hip or otherwise’…
As long as he follows it up. Really start pushing it, using it to show the current ruinables crusade is in fact the worst option. Every time there is a report of an increase in power prices, or a black out or a brown out, or they tell us we should not use the aircon or heater, then hammer Labor again. ‘Start a conversation’ at lease among conservatives and let it spread from there. Publicly everyone wants to look virtuous, but at heart they want value for their money, and when they go to the little booth with their ballot they can be honest.
Which is why we keep on seeing ‘upsets’ in elections where the side predicted to lose actually wins.
Bryant didn’t hold firearm licences.
He paid cash to a Hobart gun dealer who mustn’t have particularly fussy about who he sold several guns and three thousand rounds of ammo to.
I love the it had to be too hard arguments.
I’ve seen the footprint of the cafe/gift shop in question, small, killing 20 people at close range (some in the back) would not have been a herculean task, outside he didn’t do so well.
He went back and killed one person he’d injured outside, then stopped and killed Mrs Mikac and her two little girls aged 3 and 6 as he made his escape then four people inside a BMW (including another child) at the toll gate, then took the driver of a Toyota hostage in the stolen BMW (whom he later killed).
He’d already killed the owners of the Seascape.
In addition to the injured inside and outside the cafe there were a number of people who didn’t get shot, even in the cafe. If you include those he shot at and missed in the ‘ratios’ it would look different again, wouldn’t it?
Incidentally there were six hundred witnesses interviewed, a big percentage of those would have been at Port Arthur on the day.
It is after all a very popular tourist attraction.
And
The
Range
Was
1 – 5 Metres.
Not
50 – 100 Metres.
Flattered and humbled, CL.
This awesome 14 year old saved his eight year old sister with a slingshot.
Sancho Panzer:
That’s what I said, and despite your attempt at diversion, I never said anything about Joe Viallis. Never heard of him, not even going to bother finding out.
You did what I said you did – which is bring into the argument all sorts of conspiracy theorists in an attempt to link them to what Duk said. And it worked.
Pathetic.
Go back to doing what your IQ suits you to – Class Clown.
That would have been an ‘assault slingshot’.
If they don’t ban them then everyone will be sling-shotting people at random (the same way the malevolent spirit in guns take control of people and turn them into mass murderers). The carnage will be beyond comprehension.
Quite so.
From memory the Broad Arrow cafe (at least in part) had long trestle tables with people sitting cheek-by-jowl on a busy day.
With two or three rows of tables (4-6 rows of seated customers) the remarkable thing would be someone firing from the hip (head height of seated customers) actually hit the back wall.
I am a Qlder and not at all impressed with the this. An awful idea which I cannot recall ever being discussed in election campaigns, which will result in public (my) funds going to waste… again.
Elections have consequences…
The majority of Queenslanders voted for this simply be re-electing a deceitful, lying Labor Party
I brought to the argument Joe Vialls form for fantasist theories, and successfully pointed out that, if Joe got one right, it would be an outlier.
He had a reputation for “adjusting” evidence to suit his cause and he always seemed to find a tenuous link back to Mossad.
Which is a similar dog-whistle code used by an erstwhile commenter at Dead Cat when he was trying to beat moderation.
“International Bankers” = Jews.
“Mossad” = Jews.
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1657708617296928768/photo/1
Dear Feds – at least change the uniform.
I’m just not buying into this Port Arthur stuff.
We all know it was Sirhan Sirhan.
Pogria says:
May 15, 2023 at 1:59 pm
The last place I was at we had Islanders take down the trees. The older men were on the ground and the teenagers flew up the trees like they were coconut palms. They were huge old Eucalypts that time. Just as awesome to watch.
We have some Islander chaps that occasionally go door-to-door in this area touting for work. I’ve used them a couple of times and their damn good. I had one old tree that was around 17m high and was clearly in danger of collapse and these guys came to my door with fortuitous timing.
There was an opportunity to cut the tree and let it fall as one piece but the ‘corridor’ was very narrow. And that was exactly what happened. Couple of ‘inverse’ cuts to the base then the big cut and it fell straight done the centre of the corridor. Then, they cut it up into smaller pieces which I used for firewood for all of last winter – still have a little left over. Job over in <30 minutes. Total cost $400 (in cash please).
These same guys cut some limbs off another tree on another occasion and yes, the younger ones scampered up the trunk like monkeys. And I don't say that to be nasty – they just ran up this vertical tree, moving from limb to limb, as easily as you and I would walk a mild incline.
I guess, in the Lehrman case, it all comes down to one question:
Should the Moller Report (which was scathing of Higgins’ claims) have been made “public” to the defence, right?
Only military veterans may comment?
You’re excluding the Old Solderer and Nurse Betty?
That doesn’t seem fair.
I’ve just noticed that Patricia Karvelas of their ABC has a more than passing resemblance to Glenn Quagmire’s transitioned father on Family Guy – the one that Brian mounted.
Excellent episode – dunno how to link it.
Never trust a guy with two first names.
My understanding is that, if Sirhan Sirhan unleashed a semi-auto from the hip, he would have knee-capped 150 people.
I seem to remember he was about 5’4″.
LOL Sancho!!! 😛
I wonder how many Australian boys have ever made or used a Shanghai.
Outstanding behaviour by that youngster.
The secondary question being why the AFP and DPP then pursued any further action if the report was so scathing of Britnah!
Seems like Digger and Knuckles, both veterans, agree with Dot and Sancho.
How many do you need?
And wasn’t it Duk who bought Vialls to the gun fight in the first place?
KD at 11:26.
Well, that is not possible.
Joe kicked off in 2005.
Short illness followed by a heart attack*.
…
* Mossad hit.
Obviously.
He was about to spill the beans about Elvis.
And the Jewish tsunami machine.
I had a pretty great shanghai when I was a kid. Was much admired by neighbour kid – he didn’t dare make one as his dad was dead set against “catapults”.
He was allowed a slug gun though, weird!
Pogria @ 12.50 pm
I lived in the Southern Highlands for 12 years and did constant battle with the good ‘ole Cypress Leylandii. They look great from afar especially on open vista fields, but on town blocks of less than 2000 square metres they really are a pest.
Why, yes.
Yes it was.
But apparently, according to The Good Nurse, it is poor form to impugn trusted sources on the innernet, even by citing their own words verbatim.
Listen, it’s just not that sort of blog.
If that’s your thing you might be looking for unfetteredhorseshit.com.au or “swiveleyedloon.com”.
Going back to my original point.
What is the objective of Port Arthur conspiracy theorists?
To get gun laws relaxed?
To just have a good “they tuk er gerns” whinge without expecting any particular outcome?
Or simply to be seen as a God Oracle With Special Insights Into Stuff?
What?
Sancho Panzer:
Yes. You brought it to the argument to confabulate another’s point. You did it deliberately and maliciously to score a point.
Now piss off with your stupidity – and your ‘nurse betty is a mass murderer’ insinuations. It isn’t funny, although to a 10 year old it just may be.
Heavy plain fencing wire twisted into a Y shape.
Old bike inner tube.
Leather tongue of an old boot.
Not semi-auto but my kill-wounding ratio was good.
Oh?
How does that sit with the “former PM, ministers and police commissioner were mass murderers” insinuation?
Because that is the Joe Vialls dog-whistle.
“The killings can’t have been done by a mere mortal.
They were carried out by Israeli special forces to advance a gun control agenda.”
There is only one way to settle this definitively, we need to do an experiment.
We need a few guns, a lot of ammunition, an amateur with almost no experience of guns (rosie? Sancho?) and a collection of people trapped in a limited space. Obviously, Parliament House restaurant, with the doors locked, would be ideal for this, since killing as many as possible would be a natural impulse.
The whole thing should be videod from multiple cameras for the data collection.
Great. You’ve just given the work experience ASIO boy a heart attack.
You can also conduct this experiment using a game like Grand Theft Auto as I mentioned earlier.
Walk into a hospital and start shooting random people..
Everyone starts running away for some reason…
Makes it really hard to hit them after the first 2 or 3 on e the panic sets in…
You’ll end up chewing through ammo faster than you might think.
Of course, the counter argument to this would be “that’s just a game, it’s not realistic”
Pogriasays:
May 15, 2023 at 2:13 pm
This awesome 14 year old saved his eight year old sister with a slingshot.
Isn’t a slingshot (shanghai) counted as a firearm in Oz?
“These same guys cut some limbs off another tree on another occasion and yes, the younger ones scampered up the trunk like monkeys. And I don’t say that to be nasty – they just ran up this vertical tree, moving from limb to limb, as easily as you and I would walk a mild incline.”
Speedbox, no need to apologise for observations. Agility up high isn’t exclusively the domain of Islanders. In my teen years when I was working out bush, I was the one always called upon to scoot up the silos and swing on the auger until it slotted into its hole. I thought it was fun except on the odd occasion when I had to unwrap the hessian from the augur spout which had been placed there for off-season protection, and a couple of dozen rats would become airborne. That was really startling when you are up that high!
These days, I have trouble making it up my step stool to place objects on the high shelves. Lol
Speedbox,
I forgot to add, the Islander blokes also came door to door in our area. That was how we hired them. I still have their card.
“dragnetsays:
May 15, 2023 at 2:44 pm
Pogria @ 12.50 pm
I lived in the Southern Highlands for 12 years and did constant battle with the good ‘ole Cypress Leylandii. They look great from afar especially on open vista fields, but on town blocks of less than 2000 square metres they really are a pest.”
Leylandii are the most evil of all the Pines, Conifers, Cypress etc. Triffids in tree form.
truly amazing that the dummy can quote things that people never said
even more amazing are the dummy’s clairvoyant powers
and you can hardly see sancho’s lips moving
I briefly had a slingshot but also had a Telly 70 air rifle.
But my greatest achievement was creating smoke bombs. I don’t recall the ingredients now but used to buy some stuff from the local chemist and some from the local hardware store. I’d mix this stuff in the shed and then set it off in the backyard. Covered the entire backyard and you couldn’t see more that 3 metres in front of you for white smoke. It would hang around for several minutes if the wind wasn’t blowing.
After more experimenting I made one that covered ~2500 m2. Our block and the neighbours. Absolutely spectacular although it turned out that the neighbours didn’t share my enthusiasm so my research for blanketing the neighbourhood came to an end. But I had a plan, I figured out that if I sequenced the ignition on multiple smokebombs and placed them at strategic locations…….
My work on delayed fuses for multiple ‘4 penny bungers’ on Guy Fawkes night was legendary among local kids. I was all of about 12 years old at the time.
Boambee John,
Slingshots are still legal in Queensland. I want to buy are few before they are banned. Just have to work out how to get them into NSW. They can be ordered online, legally for the time being. Delivery is the problem. Like not being able to buy seed potatoes from the Eastern States if you live in WA.
Hearing a bit of chatter on twitter that the escalation stakes are now quite high re Ukraine.
Many implicit assumptions being made today about who may or may not have a history of serving in the military or experience with weapons.
Old Social Media Posts by Trump’s Sexual Assault Accuser, E. Jean Carroll, Reveal She Has Weird Obsession with Trump.
what has been attributed to anyone which was not uttered or written by them?
i did quote from the deranged ramblings of joe vialls to demonstrate he maybe wasn’t a trusted source on the innernet
his words
all of it
mong
joe that is
not you
perish the thought
FMD, I have been trying to tell people autists are just different and can handle social situations.
Such implicit assumption can be found here:
I wonder why? Couldn’t be those pesky little court cases, could it?
Story at The Australian and I don’t subscribe.
Looks like very recent events have indicated the prudence of a more cautious approach.
port arthur massacre was in 1996
the song “cows with guns” came out the same year
hmmmm
disturbing
its pretty obvious doncha think
WATCH: Wild Brawl Breaks Out at Minnesota Democrat City Council Convention, Two Injured – DOZENS of Deranged Democrat Loons Storm Stage and Start Fighting Each Other (VIDEO)
Ain’t MultiCulturalism great?
note the question marks sal
questions
i find it curious
wait
do you know they are deranged loons?
i call ad hominem on that
Gamma Radiation? From DU?
Joe Biden Pretends to be Woke, for Pandering Purposes Styxhexenhammer666
On shangais or slingshots – I have a couple purchased for me by mates at the Eumundi Markets in Queensland.
Well made, compact and excellent for pissing off stray cats, noisy crows and those rat Indian mynas.
As a kid we all had one – homemade to various levels of sophistication. Just like every boy carried a pocketknife. And a lot of girls.
The next step was a slug gun and, as you progressed into your teens, a 22.
A lot of city kids these days don’t even know how throw rocks let alone skip a flat stone across water.
to throw
You’re questioning the implicit assumption I served, or didn’t serve, or that I am still serving means I fit into neither camp?
Losing US Supremacy to China | Walter Russell Mead
John Anderson
WMD’s.
Joe Biden Pretends to be
Wokeawake, for Pandering Purposes.But I don’t think he is the pander. He is surrounded by those who are, and keep arranging photo sessions with innocent little girls, often in front of their parents so they have to watch, which is a whole new level of disturbing.
Can anyone with knowledge of Tasmanian politics explain to us WTF is going on there?
Who in their right mind risks the survival of the government over a freakin’ football stadium? Why?
If it’s just bread and circuses, what a dill the Premier is. But then, perhaps dill-dom is now a prerequisite for being an Australian Premier.
Who in their right mind risks the survival of the government over a freakin’ football stadium? Why?
Developers and unions. Other than the unions I am wondering who stands to make a killing on this and why a Liberal government would give sleazy’s mob & minions such a free kick…
Oh for the days when journalists had curiosity.
nice try numb-nuts
to be honest your whole shtick here is doing that … putting words in people’s mouths
childish tosser
Addendum: I have no idea of Tasmanian Politics having not visited the apple isle since the 1980s and observing their Liberal party that seems to be left of Matt Keen on most issues.
Just musing.
Good for Tasmania. The AFL are economic hitmen.
HAHAHAHA!
What a joke!
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/federal-funding-for-hobart-stadium-to-be-announced-on-weekend-paving-way-for-afl-licence-20230425-p5d363.html
The $715 million stadium would receive $240 million in federal funding, $375 million from the state government and $15 million from the AFL. The rest is expected to come from commercial deals.
So the biggest stakeholders (AFL Tassie & “the” AFL) are putting in the least amount!
The phrase “the Usual Suspects” appears up thread. Which means just about everyone.
It works both ways in arguments. Always a surprise when someone breaks a pre-conceived mould.
It’s interesting how “ad hominem” is always bad, yet “well, he would say that wouldn’t he” is okay…provided you agree with the statement.
Just a second order effect of doing Science.
Sport in Australia is a deadset scam. Just hosing taxpayers. No wonder the unathletic absolutely hate sportsball. Use your own imagination what better purpose that 144 mn AUD over 12 years could be used for in private or public hands.
Meanwhile, local sporting clubs have to charge fees or ask for much rather minute begging bowl scraps off the other taxpayers and get well appreciated but microscopic sponsorship deals – whilst their fees play a small part of the stadium buy in and salaries for the self important league admins.
240 mn
375 mn
144 mn
60 mn
819 mn in public funds!
Fuch ’em, make ’em play on old Sieffert oval and take Queanbeyan as a second home town.
By the way, it isn’t that difficult to work out how to use a gun. I was given fifteen minutes instruction on loading, unloading, safety, stance and aiming before popping off some live rounds.
Hand guns, so that is a difference. Old service issue with a mighty kick.
My view on nutcases is that once they make the first kill, the subsequent ones are easier. On this particular mongrel, he’d practised on a couple of unfortunate sitting ducks before the next phase.
I too have been to the site. It isn’t a stretch of the imagination at all.
What still angers me is that my father was shamed into handing in his pride and joy…his little rabbit shooter.
Comment from the Oz.
The solution would be to play on Bellerive Oval if the Tassie CA allowed it, or a simpler field with low set grass hills to watch…stadium seats aren’t generally very comfortable anyway. I’d much prefer an old seaton the old hill at Bruce Stadium than the stands anyway.
If the AFL argues it is TV rights that drives the “necessity” for a stadium with stadium seating, then who do the TV rights accrue to? Then why is the government paying?
Here’s the thing. They ALREADY host AFL matches there!
No need to apologise, dot.
“As long as he follows it up” is the absolute key here.
Just reciting the words ‘nuclear energy is the solution’ buys you a few days of ill informed abuse from the chorus line of howler monkeys. After which the subject skulks away into the quagmire that passes for public debate.
If Dutton doesn’t have credible technical and economic back up ready to rock, he’s shot the Australian nuclear energy debate in the foot for another 20 years.
At this stage, all I can hear is the hammer cocking.
Turtle Bowen starting to feel the heat……..(AAP)
Landowners will have a greater say on energy transmission projects in their backyards and receive better compensation, as the Albanese government seeks to address community backlash to its mega-plan to rewire the nation.
Labor went to the 2022 election promising a $20 billion Rewiring the Nation program.
On Monday, Energy Minister Chris Bowen flagged changes to the “seriously flawed” regulatory approvals process, saying it was wrong to dismiss community concerns as “just NIMBYism”
Farmer Gez and his mates starting to give a wake-up call to loony Bowen.
All done. Trees down.
You need media surrogates pushing the line on nuclear, the problems with renewables, the large cache of coal and gas we enjoy, etc. 24/7. Labor and Greens have a surfeit of these, Coalition has very few.
All good, Pogria. Nothing like seeing the things all cut up and the loppers safely off the property. Now you can breathe easy and put the first aid kit away and the 000 speed dial.
I always do. And then a nice G&T.
https://joannenova.com.au/2014/06/climate-rage-we-absolutely-cannot-have-a-rational-conversation/
Environmentalism is a cult. It fits the definitions, and frankly is indistinguishable from them.
Hopeless Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Partnership Minister, Craig Crawford, has said the quiet part out loud – presumably in an attempt to ‘socialise’ the issue prior to next year’s election.
Big task:
It will be up to Palacechook to explain to Queensland where the $30+ billion will come from – and how much will work its way through the Toyota showrooms to the communities.
” I don’t want a good, I want a service” said the 40 year old husband. This salacious story appeared in the News website over the wekend, but it was a heavily edited version of the original. The Daily Mail printed the far mor nuanced and interesting original.
Writer Pamela Druckerman gave her husband a threesome for his 40th. That was 13 years ago, but she tells the story very nicely!
Through the Toyota showrooms to the accounts of the “Big men” in the communities.
It will be up to Palacechook to explain to Queensland where the $30+ billion will come from – and how much will work its way through the Toyota showrooms to the communities.
And that’s on top of the current $30+B being spent now. Add to that the cost of promoting the inVoice and what that will cost if it gets up. And that’s before they start the treaty/reparations bullshit.
Just vote NO!
Chrisifuli has well and truly lost my vote. Seems among all the huff and puff he is a figurehead and slave to the faceless men. Sadly he has been about as effective as Freckless was.
I wonder how many Australian boys have ever made or used a Shanghai.
Guilty on both counts C.L.
Back when bike inner tubes were more elastic that they are today we could get fantastic range.
This is an entirely predictable outcome from a process designed by magical thinking and being implemented by Arts/Law graduates armed with MBA buzzwords.
Reality, in the form of physics and people like Farmer Gez, is starting to chew the arse out of the delivery of a fantasy project, cobbled together over many years by AEMO/AMEC and State Energy chieftains. Sadly, it’s now to late to do anything other than go down with the ship – grabbing at whatever looks like a life belt .
It’s slightly unfair that Shitweasel Bowen will be burned on a sacrificial fire for 15 years of collective failure.
But I like it.
If I was running Cricket Oz I’d be telling Usman, “Not too worry cos you won’t be there, anyway”
Sadly, this requires “a pair” something CA is, definitely, missing! …….
https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/test-opener-usman-khawaja-ok-about-playing-on-january-26-but-wants-australia-day-date-moved/news-story/3251656d82df81140fca3793e78ffce1
so
no specific examples then
i think you might be going … ad homonem
Shitweasel Bowen
I’m stealing that Dr Faustus.
Both sides protesting are a joke.
Avi:
FULL VIDEO: Avi Yemini ATTACKED by Antifa in Melbourne
Something for DoT.
Is Thorium making a comeback?
Re shanghais, the old inner tube is no longer needed, with certain exercise devices readily available.
is that me?
i would prefer to be known as an “unusual suspect”
far more interesting
hmmm
i think the clubhouse leader in the ad hominem open would be anyone who implies past leaders sanctioned mass murder so they could tek er gerns
FMD, I have been trying to tell people autists are just different and can handle social situations.
Its science Dot.
If science can create ladypenises and other manmade horrors beyond your comprehension i dont see the wholesale slaughter of a trough full of taxeaters as too high a price to pay.
We will never reach the stars with you neo-luddite fogeyism standing athwart our solar destiny!
TO MARS AND BEYOND!!!!
No, I wasn’t referring to you Sancho. It might have been me for all I know.
It’s a way of cataloguing people, and it never really works.
What a funny thread. Duk thinks Joe V has points to make. If there’s an absurdity, the turtlehead’s lights start flashing green and the trans jumps in to create a stoush without an iota of a point to make except to show that he’s the quickest lip on a building site.
Landowners will have a greater say on energy transmission projects in their backyards and receive better compensation
Now try the same approach with mining and watch “lock the gate” vanish in a puff of dosh.
seriously
i shit my pants when titsoff joined the fray
i mean … god oracle
Lysandersays:
May 15, 2023 at 2:28 pm
I guess, in the Lehrman case, it all comes down to one question:
Should the Moller Report (which was scathing of Higgins’ claims) have been made “public” to the defence, right?
No. The Moller report questioned whether there was sufficient evidence and the reliability of the evidence, to prosecute B. Counsel for the Defense was with in rights to access as DPP had copy. However, in a version B’s counselling notes were included and this shouldn’t have happened, but wisely defense counsel did not read and sent back. (One has to be aware that this case was unusual and there may have been tricks and traps set up to derail case if needed).
oh
i was sort of hoping i would be some sort of suspect
usual or otherwise
From the Oz. Shitweasel Bowen exposed again…….
Australia is “well behind the pace” to hit Labor’s target of hitting 82 per cent renewables in the power grid by 2030, the nation’s green bank has warned, with a major wind farm needing to be built each month until the end of the decade to hit the ambitious goal.
Labor has set a goal of tripling renewables capacity to 82 per cent by 2030.
However, authorities are worried about the huge level of investment still needed with each annual shortfall hiking the risks of electricity blackouts as coal plants like NSW’s Liddell shut their doors after a half-century of operations.
yep
and blow darts
conduit, knitting or crochet needles, newspaper and masking tape.
Off the pace, toad, off the pace.
Isn’t a slingshot (shanghai) counted as a firearm in Oz?
Late 1950’s Western Australia a slingshot was known as a “ging”.
I wonder how many Australian boys have ever made or used a Shanghai
yep
and blow darts
conduit, knitting or crochet needles, newspaper and masking tape.
Bolt bombs anyone??
Match heads, 2 bolts and a nut – some assembly required.
Brake fluid and chlorine?
/waves at ASIO work experience kid
As we are talking nuclear:
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/05/us-firm-westinghouse-announces-small-nuclear-reactor-to-power-300000-homes.html
A bunch of these sounds like a great idea. Go for it, Dutton.
We are always talking nuclear, we are always talking cheap and abundant energy here.
Pogria, watching a team of decent arborists at work is indeed a revelation.
Years ago, I got the boys from Sapphire Coast Tree Services (or some name like that) into my backyard to do some serious tidying up. It involved major surgery on a huge Liquidamber, plus some general pruning – but most delicate of all was pruning and shaping some 60 year old Sasanqua camellias. They were shapeless and growing all over the neighbour’s garage.
The head arborist, who was a country boy from an old logging town, about 45, trimmed and shaped these very large camellias into perfect triangles – very Japanese. They looked absolutely beautiful, and you couldn’t tell that they had been pruned. I said to the other boys – ‘he’s an artist’ and the laughed and said that heads were exploding. But, I could tell that they were in awe as well.
They couldn’t get their machinery in to do the Liquidamber, so it was all done with ropes and pulleys and blokes up the tree. It was fascinating to watch.
Done right, it’s a very skilled profession indeed.
They even relocated preying mantises away from the action.
Yep.
Right up to, and including ‘I could do it on Grand theft Auto.’
That would be ‘praying.’
guilty
I was still in primary school
still remember the sound of the last one I made as part of it whizzed past my head
nucken futz
but geez it was fun
Oh it’s an emergency, it’s diabolical, we’re all going to die, pressure, pressure, pressure. Reminds me of the old ads, buy now or you and your family miss out, only one chance etc. etc. I’m surprised they don’t throw in a new set of K Tel knives with every investment. What bollocks.
C.L:
We made bows and arrows. But the arrows would just bounce off clothing, so we devised a way to insert a nail into the tips. They stuck in then.
But Matron discovered what we were up to when one of the littlie’s we’d tied up to a post and threatened to burn him after using the poor kid for target practice with our new weapons of war. It appears a jumper didn’t realistically protect him the same way a flak jacket would even after we’d drawn lines on it to make it look like one.
I still remember that flogging.
🙂
They are an equal opportunity employer. Could be an ASIO girl.
DrBeauGan says: May 15, 2023 at 4:07 pm
Steady on there, Harry Harlowe-wannabe.
1. roll the newspaper into very skinny long cones
2. trim the cone with scissors where it will be slightly less diameter that the I.D of your conduit
3. carefully apply making tape around the outer edge of the fat end of the cone.
4. just enough tape. don’t go too far. when you blow up the pipe it will expand
5. inset the needle out through the cone’s pointy end.
6. use more tape to secure the needle to the cone
7. fire!!
8. steal more needles from Woolworths
9. repeat
GWGB, noshery edition.
Toronto ‘Anti-Capitalist’ Pay-When-You-Can Cafe Shuts Down After Just One Year (15 May)
Vegan restaurant makes controversial move (Ncl local news, 14 May)
Wow, who knew that communists don’t like paying for anything? And that there aren’t enough vegans in Newcastle for a vegan restaurant to survive? Maybe someone should start a climate change-themed eatery featuring bugs and insects. Sure to be a smash hit!
Tekkin’ mah gurns news (the Hun:
There’s something not quite right about this….
Dispersing the crowd? What?
I mean, the kill-to-wounded ratio wasn’t great. That would be the ‘hard science’ kill-to-wounded ratio.
Quite obviously, this was a false-flag operation – possibly a SF black ops team – designed to enable the Gummint to do whatever it wanted.
The fact that this old nuffy using an unsecured shotty to kill his neighbours over a tap will in fact enable Andrews and the other cretins to strengthen firearms laws far more than CIA/Mossad theories ever will……
Will no doubt elude some people.
One of my parentheses just got shot off.
See?
Faustus opined:
Surely to be overtaken by the swishing sound of silks from GE Hitachi and Framatome whispering sweet somethings.
Surely. Hopefully.
Wow…. completely missed the point… again…
Things that can be done in video games are usually far easier to do than they are in real life.
I mean, I can pilot aircraft great in games, I doubt I could do the same in real life…
The point is, if something is difficult to achieve in a game under similar circumstances, it will be even more difficult in real life…
Hate to tell you that I was pretty good with a shanghai. The first was made for me, but after that made my own. Bro and I went hunting most nights. We were pretty useful in the hay and grain sheds, set the dogs in, move a few bails, the dogs would send the rats and mice up the walls which we would then kill using our slings, ball bearings or metal roofing staples as ammo. Dad would pay a bounty in our pocket money. Oh and this was when 8, 9, 10.12 years old and not a boy. Graduated to air rifle with sights, then trained on rifle and shot gun before packed off to girls boarding school. Bit of a shock.
Geez. Don’t say that out loud. God only knows what response will be forthcoming.
Anyway, it’s a fair point. In real life, I’m shit at Galaga.
I was at a family gathering where an older member was curious what the younger generation thought about the voice, particularly university students. A family member who is still at uni responded that it is a non-event. She was not sure if they are just over it and have other more immediate concerns. She also thought that many are just keeping their heads down so as not to anger the lecturers and imperil their grades.
I found that response interesting as students are usually at the forefront of pushing political issues, particularly stupid political issues. I prefer to think that they may already be unhappy with so many breaks indigenous students get for which others are not eligible.
excellent behavior
… and how often do you get these sadistic urges nurse betty?
I heard the AEMO CEO on the ABC today stating that rural Australia will bear most of the burden of the transmission project.
I don’t believe Bowen’s crocodile tears for a moment. They are trying to hose down a national protest by farmers that will expose the whole stinking cash grab by the green energy barons to the general public.
The transmission lines aren’t even the main issue. The thousands of renewable energy projects that will chew through our valuable agricultural land and environment will put power lines in the shade. You’ll note Bowen not mentioning the elephant in the room.
I’ll be attending a strategy meeting tomorrow night and devise a response to this new strategy of mea culpa – à la Peter Beatty.
No Prisoners!
pretty much every time you post, sancho
At the same recent family gathering where the voice issue was raised the reaction of adults was more financially centred. Most were horrified that they will be made to pay another tax or land rates on their properties which will be given to people simply on the basis of race. All agreed that instead of correcting racism it would be cementing it into the Australian society.
Maybe Nurse Betty is really Nurse Ratchet.
hmmmm
worked with a couple of dweebs once who were into flying model aircraft
they used to call it “going flying”
they were banging on one day about their various loops, rolls and cuban eights
“get back to me when you’ve done it with your arse in the seat”
deflated
Potentially mentioned earlier, but (the Hun):
Waleed – ‘There’s a rape case enquiry?’
i reckon i’d be excellent at galaga
whatever it is
I’d suggest that valuation under Eminent Domain should include future valued cash flows
they want business partners or just to steal yr stuff?