Open Thread – Tues 16 May 2023


The Peasant Dance, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1568

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Crossie
Crossie
May 16, 2023 7:27 pm

Check this out. Everyone thinks Fauci was the devil in all this. Bitch Birx was calling the shots.

Says the scarf woman. It was probably some unnamed bureaucrat who pulled the strings and Fauci and the scarf danced for Trump and the media.

cohenite
May 16, 2023 7:27 pm

In 2012 E. Jean Carroll (who is called that?) declared Trump’s program The Apprentice was her favourite program and her description of what did (n’t) happen in the dressing room is identical to an episode of Law and Order: SVU.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 16, 2023 7:28 pm

Daily Mail. Locals in MacKay have had a gutful.

Anonymous note appears in a town warning of a menacing ‘community-enforced curfew’ for kids – as fears rise about vigilante behaviour to combat youth crime

Vigilantes have ordered youth off the street after 10pm
They will ‘discipline’ any youths found breaking curfew
Threat follows angry mob surrounding homes last week

flyingduk
flyingduk
May 16, 2023 7:28 pm

“Oh they knew alright, they knew by March 2020 that this was nothing special”

It became even more obvious when governments rushed to indemnify the drug companies against damages.

I think I finally twigged when I asked my MP to meet me and discuss the implications of the Diamond Princess ‘experiment’ on the SA Govts covid policy … and he sent the PoPo round instead to tell me to STFU.

Crossie
Crossie
May 16, 2023 7:30 pm

mem says:
May 16, 2023 at 7:27 pm
I’ve often pondered what would happen if God or maybe Elon called up up all the Greenie head honchos and said I’ll reduce the world temperature by 2.00C if you lay off all this climate and renewables crap. What would be their response?

My guess is the answer would be wailing and gnashing of teeth. You take the climate change from them and they would be without a reason for living.

Cassie of Sydney
May 16, 2023 7:32 pm

“As usual, you’ve made it about you.”

Because my decision to get vaccinated is about me.

flyingduk
flyingduk
May 16, 2023 7:33 pm

rosiesays:
May 16, 2023 at 5:52 pm
why vaccinated people—not the unvaxxed—suffer frequent bouts of COVID-19.

Odd.
I’ve never had covid, despite extensive international travel in 2021 and 2022.

Cassie of Sydneysays:
May 16, 2023 at 5:55 pm
“why vaccinated people—not the unvaxxed—suffer frequent bouts of COVID-19.”

I’m vaccinated and I’ve never had Covid.

I know someone who’s not vaccinated and has had Covid twice.

Bugger …. 2 unverified anecdotes refute a mountain of scientific work over the last 3 years … its over chaps, they are onto us 🙁

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 7:34 pm

Crossiesays:
May 16, 2023 at 7:27 pm
Check this out. Everyone thinks Fauci was the devil in all this. Bitch Birx was calling the shots.

Says the scarf woman. It was probably some unnamed bureaucrat who pulled the strings and Fauci and the scarf danced for Trump and the media.

There is more to it, but yes, you could be correct.

Jorge
Jorge
May 16, 2023 7:37 pm

….. continuous trouble in Alice Springs …..

Not just there. Darwin … and spreading …… Pt Augusta too is having meetings about their youth problem.

Lots of these places are becoming uninhabitable for whites AND blacks.

Lucky they don’t have missiles.

Cassie of Sydney
May 16, 2023 7:38 pm

“Bugger …. 2 unverified anecdotes refute a mountain of scientific work over the last 3 years … its over chaps, they are onto us ?”

I know, I know, Joe Vialls is your go to source! Further to “science”, I’m pretty sure scientific work would dispute Vialls’ unverified theories about Mossad being behind the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
May 16, 2023 7:39 pm

Wottabout Pride Round, Joffa?

They way the world is going Paedophilia or ‘minor attracted persons’ will be celebrated as part of Pride round in about 5 to 10 years.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 16, 2023 7:40 pm

Ed Casesays:
May 16, 2023 at 7:02 pm
Dental Hospitals still use mercury fillings, so there’s mercury vapor everywhere.

Evidence, or you simply (as usual) made this up, Grandpa Ed.

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 16, 2023 7:40 pm

I had never heard of Joe Vialls until a few days ago- glad about that

Dot
Dot
May 16, 2023 7:41 pm

Come on people, we need to get over all the theatre of the US, much as I love it, but IMHO, we in Australia have a much larger issue with the screech and the lack of people prepared to stand up to the Fabians who have wormed their way in to kill western, Christian values.

I agree.

The Public Health Acts ought to be repealed.

rosie
rosie
May 16, 2023 7:42 pm

refute a mountain of scientific work over the last 3 years

What a load of tosh.
For one there were no covid vaccines in 2020 and for two, you just made up ‘the mountain of scientific work’.
what there is is a mountain of scientific work that shows the unvaccinated are more likely to be hospitalised or die of covid.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 16, 2023 7:43 pm

KD

I wish I’d thought of that acronym expansion when engaged with Liability Bob, aka Four Leaf Tayback, aka Old Yeller, aka President and CEO of the Woomba Miata Association Inc.

Oi, that’s the Woomba Miata Hell Drivers, thank you very much!

rosie
rosie
May 16, 2023 7:44 pm
Ed Case
Ed Case
May 16, 2023 7:46 pm

E.Jean Carroll is a former Miss Cheerleader U.S.A [1963] and was a contestant on To Tell The Truth [as herself].
I can’t find that episode on a search, though the Wrong Way Corrigan episode lists as #1.
Anyway, I believe the old gal.
Hey, Joffa, here’s a link to Old E. Jean’s site, you can ask her any question you like.
Plus she’s a MudShark.

Dot
Dot
May 16, 2023 8:01 pm

I had a look at an MX-5 not long ago, being my sister’s chaperone looking at a new family wagon for her.

The hardtop (“power foldaway”), with a blueprinted and chipped engine, would be “sick” as the kids used to say.

1134 kg
135 kW/205 Nm

Not bad stock standard. Entry level chip tuning can go to 150 kW and 230 Nm.

Dot
Dot
May 16, 2023 8:05 pm

Haaretz might be worthy of “trusted blogger” (Big Gay Serge, Stew Peters, Joe Vialls) status.

Ben Shapiro hits puberty
Bibi the Terminator
Likud’s plan to turn Israel fascist and end democracy
Jordan Peterson’s mask slips
QE II was a racist who never visited Israel

It’s like James Carville got all of the Jewish Democrats with a right of return in a shipping container and only fed them a diet of amphetamines and raw organ meat.

flyingduk
flyingduk
May 16, 2023 8:08 pm

“As usual, you’ve made it about you.”

Because my decision to get vaccinated is about me.

Only if you agree to it, if you refuse, its about Grandma…

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 16, 2023 8:12 pm

Don’t forget this year’s AGM!

Crossie
Crossie
May 16, 2023 8:12 pm

I have thought about this for a while and concluded that the Ukrainian war would not have happened if they didn’t surrender their nuclear weapons. I can see why Biden and the Democrats now feel they have to protect Ukraine at all costs as it was Clinton who persuaded them to give up the nukes.

Moral of the story: keep your nukes or get them if you don’t have them.

flyingduk
flyingduk
May 16, 2023 8:14 pm

I know, I know, Joe Vialls is your go to source! Further to “science”, I’m pretty sure scientific work would dispute Vialls’ unverified theories about Mossad being behind the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami.

Wow, back to that eh? I thought we played that out yesterday.

BTW, I salute your efforts to combine *2* invalid refutations of those discussions:

1) Straw man argument (I made no mention at all about the Indian Ocean Tsunami – although I did spend 18 days in Aceh as part of a disaster response team responding to it – if that helps)
2) Ad hominem attack – Vialls discussion about the inconsistencies of the Pt Arthur need not be addressed because we have attacked his character instead.

I repeat my offer to send you a copy of ‘The Art of the Argument’ if you would like to do better?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 8:15 pm

Dotsays:
May 16, 2023 at 8:05 pm
Haaretz might be worthy of “trusted blogger” (Big Gay Serge, Stew Peters, Joe Vialls) status.

Lumping Stew Peters in with them. You are a dickhead. I rate Stew above Tucker.

Mull on that.

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 16, 2023 8:16 pm

I can see why Biden and the Democrats now feel they have to protect Ukraine at all costs as it was Clinton who persuaded them to give up the nukes.

I think they just wanted a war

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 16, 2023 8:17 pm

I don’t know what Biden ‘feels’ now apart from spite, malice, greed and what might be in his soiled undies.

rickw
rickw
May 16, 2023 8:18 pm

“As usual, you’ve made it about you.”

Because my decision to get vaccinated is about me.

Getting some very tangential shit for getting vaccinated is totally on par with losing your job for not getting vaccinated……

flyingduk
flyingduk
May 16, 2023 8:18 pm

Moral of the story: keep your nukes or get them if you don’t have them.

Thinking locally, this is the principle behind the second amendment – keep your personal firearms if you don’t want to be stood over by a bigger bully (aka your government).

Cassie of Sydney
May 16, 2023 8:19 pm

“I repeat my offer to send you a copy of ‘The Art of the Argument’ if you would like to do better?”

You clearly haven’t read it yourself.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 8:19 pm
Cassie of Sydney
May 16, 2023 8:21 pm

No one here supported people losing their jobs for not getting vaccinated.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 16, 2023 8:24 pm

smh decides that porn on twitter is a problem…now.
Pity they didn’t find it a problem for the last decade.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 8:26 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
May 16, 2023 at 8:21 pm
No one here supported people losing their jobs for not getting vaccinated.

Correct.

Delta A
Delta A
May 16, 2023 8:27 pm

Finally catching up:
sfwsays:
May 16, 2023 at 8:41 am

Oh, yes, I love this poem, having learned it as a child in primary school. Even then, I was entranced by the rhythym, picturing the brunette beauty in her red, ruffled skirts, twirling and clicking her heels in time to her casanets.

Fabulous!

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 16, 2023 8:28 pm

UndeadFOIA has been chirping today about how little the Durham reported that wasn’t already covered in the Horowitz report.
His FOI requests uncovered more than Durham did in 4+ years.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 16, 2023 8:34 pm

Sofronoff inquiry: Shane Drumgold took ‘stab’ at Bruce Lehrmann, says Steven Whybrow

By REMY VARGA
NSW Reporter
@RemyVarga
and KRISTIN SHORTEN
Investigative Journalist
8:24PM May 16, 2023

Bruce Lehrmann’s defence barrister has accused ACT chief prosecutor Shane Drumgold of taking a “pejorative stab” at his client and abandoning impartiality to align himself with former ministerial staffer Brittany Higgins, the ­Sofronoff inquiry has heard.

Steven Whybrow, SC, told the seventh day of the inquiry probing the investigation into the ­attempted prosecution of Mr Lehrmann that he told police the decision to run a second possible trial against his client should not be made by Mr Drumgold.

In other developments on Tuesday, the inquiry released the transcript of a secret Supreme Court hearing over why the high-profile rape trial was sensationally aborted late last year that revealed the juror who brought prohibited material into the jury room had been deeply apologetic.
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Evidence also emerged of a heated text message exchange ­between Mr Whybrow and prosecutor Skye Jerome after The Weekend Australian last year published a police review of evidence that included discrepancies in Ms Higgins’ account and concerns over her credibility.

On Tuesday, Mr Whybrow told the inquiry Mr Drumgold was not required to say he believed he had a reasonable chance of convicting Mr Lehrmann for the alleged rape of Ms Higgins when announcing he would not pursue a retrial due to concern for the former ministerial staffer’s mental health.

“I felt like it was a pejorative stab at Mr Lehrmann unnecessarily,” he said.

Mark Tedeschi, KC, who is representing Mr Drumgold, said the landmark Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse recommended directors of public prosecutions explain their decisions to lower the risk of communities ­losing faith.

Mr Whybrow said he understood Mr Drumgold’s concern for Ms Higgins and said he had held similar concerns for the welfare of Mr Lehrmann.

“Both the complainant and the accused have been subjected to extraordinarily hateful, uninformed and terrible comments on various platforms,” he said.

When Mr Tedeschi asked Mr Whybrow whether it was clear Mr Drumgold had considerable sympathy for Ms Higgins, he responded: “I was concerned he had aligned himself with Ms Higgins.”

Ms Higgins alleged Mr Lehrmann raped her on the couch in the ministerial office of their then boss Senator Linda Reynolds in the early hours of March 23, 2019, after a night out drinking with ­colleagues.

The trial was aborted after a juror was found to have brought outside material into the jury room, and Mr Drumgold said on December 2 he would not pursue a second trial citing concern for Ms Higgins’ mental health.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 16, 2023 8:35 pm

Knuckle Dragger says:
May 16, 2023 at 7:04 pm

Dr F, at 3.30 and apropos of The Enquiry:

The only political agenda seems to have belonged to Drumgold, who wanted it pushed through regardless.

My thought too.
Deeply unlikely that the ALP was pressuring the AFP to drop the case.

Muddy
Muddy
May 16, 2023 8:36 pm

Robert Sewell says:
May 16, 2023 at 6:15 pm

QHealth is where psychopaths go to live out their working life in comfort, safe in the knowledge they’ll fit right in.
Sorry to read that, Robert.

cohenite
May 16, 2023 8:46 pm

Anyway, I believe the old gal.

About what crotchless? She hated her darkie hubbie and had all sorts of fetishes. She’s the sort of kook who would be at home at seances and kollywobble retreats. The fact her testimony was believed by the jury lends weight to the theory that the authorities are feeding the masses hallucinogens in the water.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 16, 2023 8:56 pm

Deeply unlikely that the ALP was pressuring the AFP to drop the case.
Yeah, Cap’n Obvious.
Especially since it won them the Election.

The Liberal Party, d’you reckon they might have put some pressure on the cops to let it drop?

mem
mem
May 16, 2023 8:56 pm

The fact her testimony was believed by the jury lends weight to the theory that the authorities are feeding the masses hallucinogens in the water.

Who knows what the jury thought. They never finalized their vote so everything about the outcome from the jury’s point of view is conjecture.

MatrixTransform
May 16, 2023 9:01 pm

again

rosie,
if you had a handful of trumps
you would have lead with your highest

JC
JC
May 16, 2023 9:01 pm

and kollywobble retreats.

Stop using words like kollywobble that don’t belong anywhere past the Victorian border. Show some restraint Cronkite.

Razey
Razey
May 16, 2023 9:02 pm

Bugger …. 2 unverified anecdotes refute a mountain of scientific work over the last 3 years … its over chaps, they are onto us

Don’t bother responding to mouth breathers. They haven’t a single clue about anything.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 16, 2023 9:03 pm

She hated her darkie hubbie and had all sorts of fetishes.

Darkies are violent.
There are sites documenting MudSharks getting iced by their ‘Groid “hubbies”.
Basically, Trump charmed her into a vulnerable position, then he raped her.
She hasn’t had an intimate relationship since, and she’s now 79.
Have a bit of respect, you low rent scumsucker.

JC
JC
May 16, 2023 9:06 pm

Trans was vaxxed, but she’s trying to sound like she wasn’t when she was.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 16, 2023 9:09 pm

Who knows what the jury thought. They never finalized their vote so everything about the outcome from the jury’s point of view is conjecture.

Weez tokkin’ ’bout the Trump Trial, Dopey.
If you’re talking about the Lehrmann Trial, it was 11/1 to convict.
Wanna know how I know that?
Because if it was any less, the Judge wouldna sent them back to keep deliberating, she woulda declared a Mistrial.

cohenite
May 16, 2023 9:10 pm

Have a bit of respect, you low rent scumsucker.

Hey head prefect crotchless is having a shot at you.

I complemented you earlier by comparing you to an elephant’s dick. In the superstitious East Indies elephant penises bring tremendous good luck.

JC
JC
May 16, 2023 9:13 pm

I shouldn’t, but I had to lol, Croknite. Just behave and none of those stupid trannie links too.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 9:15 pm

I walked down the street today and a gorgeous lady was glued to her phone. She obviously went to the post office…she had a package under her arm when we crossed paths again upon my return and her head was still buried in the phone. Head down all the way.

Glorious day with the sun and yet she is a slave to tech. When I walk, I leave the phone at home. Disconnect.

Stive Morgan – Telephone Emptiness

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 16, 2023 9:16 pm

I see Ed October’s getting bored waiting for the attention bus.

Here you go little fella. There’s a pat.

Off you go now, you scamp.

cohenite
May 16, 2023 9:17 pm

Wanna know how I know that?

You belong to a vagina plaiting club and so did some other jurors who told you.

Because if it was any less, the Judge wouldna sent them back to keep deliberating, she woulda declared a Mistrial.

No. It was a mistrial because of jury misconduct. It could have been 12-0 and it still would have been aborted.

And stop affecting a Tasmanian inbred with your ‘a’s and yokum crap.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 16, 2023 9:19 pm

Special Ed has the CCTV video of the change room encounter right next to britnees non encounter on the couch. Tell us ed, how many other blank videos have you? Moron.

MatrixTransform
May 16, 2023 9:20 pm

but she’s trying to sound like she wasn’t when she was

to be honest
she really doesn’t give a flying-f what you think

mem
mem
May 16, 2023 9:25 pm

Steve tricklersays:
May 16, 2023 at 9:15 pm
I walked down the street today

Really enjoyed that. Thank you for posting.

JC
JC
May 16, 2023 9:28 pm

to be honest
she really doesn’t give a flying-f what you think

Which is why she had to tell us.

What a miserable, screwed up piece of shit Trans is. All she’s done for the entire day is attack Rosie without a single fact.

Obviously no reverse cycle repair jobs today?

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 16, 2023 9:28 pm

Grandpa Ed Simpson

If you’re talking about the Lehrmann Trial, it was 11/1 to convict.
Wanna know how I know that?
Because if it was any less, the Judge wouldna sent them back to keep deliberating, she woulda declared a Mistrial.

How confident are you that it wasn’t 11/1 to acquit? You don’t actually “know” what you assert. Give some evidence, not the results of your sad obsession with Mizzz Knickerless.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 16, 2023 9:31 pm

cohenite

And stop affecting a Tasmanian inbred with your ‘a’s and yokum crap.

What makes you think that Grandpa Ed Simpson is only “affecting a Tasmanian inbred”? This might be the real Grandpa Ed.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 16, 2023 9:35 pm

Lehrmann had motive-he leaned on Fiona Brown to hire Higgins
He had opportunity- she was dead drunk on a couch, he was stone cold sober.
He had the means- there was nobody within coo-ee.
Let’s get real here, joffa.

rosie
rosie
May 16, 2023 9:36 pm

Sometimes when I visit the cat I just read the comments of sane people using find in page function.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 16, 2023 9:38 pm

Ed Casesays:
May 16, 2023 at 9:35 pm
Lehrmann had motive-he leaned on Fiona Brown to hire Higgins
He had opportunity- she was dead drunk on a couch, he was stone cold sober.
He had the means- there was nobody within coo-ee.
Let’s get real here, joffa.

Look, Grandpa Ed, just because you are the kind of sleazebag who would do that, doesn’t mean that everyone is.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 16, 2023 9:39 pm

your sad obsession with Mizzz Knickerless

Ed.

Some blokes like to obsess about fat chicks. I don’t but it takes all kinds, right?

It’s okay, seriously. Get it off your chest, such as it is.

Love is love.

Muddy
Muddy
May 16, 2023 9:40 pm

Muddy says:
May 16, 2023 at 8:36 pm

I’ve just realised that could have been interpreted in two contrasting ways, Robert.
Hopefully you realise it was intended as empathetic, rather than accusational.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 16, 2023 9:44 pm

Dr Faustus at 0943 this morning.
Once again, a fair and balanced assessment.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 16, 2023 9:51 pm

Look, Grandpa Ed, just because you are the kind of sleazebag who would do that, doesn’t mean that everyone is.

“Wasn’t this where she used to bang so – and – so? Wonder how many other blokes there have been?”

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 9:56 pm

Who’s this bloke? Let’s have a look.
____________

John Stossel:

Vivek Ramaswamy is a successful entrepreneur who created a biotech company. Now he’s running for president.

Vivek Ramaswamy: The Full Interview on Wokeness, Free Speech, destructive ESG & the Climate Cult.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 16, 2023 10:02 pm

1) Straw man argument (I made no mention at all about the Indian ocean tsunami….

No-one said that.
That was part of the circumstantial evidence that Joe Vialls was an unhinged anti-Semitic nut-job.

2) Ad hominem attack – Vialls discussion about the inconsistencies of the Pt Arthur need not be addressed because we have attacked his character instead.

Wrong again champ.
We attacked his Swiss Cheese analysis on Port Arthur and all his other off-the-wall bullshit. Coincidentally I guess that does involve a well deserved attack on his character (such as it is) because of his thinly disguised anti-Semitism.
So sue me.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 16, 2023 10:25 pm

Let’s talk about the “Pulse Strobe (Less Than Lethal)” device deployed to cause the accident which killed Princess Diana.
Who did this, you ask?
Well, it’s obvious.
Zionists enraged that Diana was dating a Muesli.
.
Yes.
Joe Vialls again

Indolent
Indolent
May 16, 2023 10:36 pm
JC
JC
May 16, 2023 10:42 pm

Sanchez

I thought Diana died in the Asian tsunami caused by those dreaded Israelis, or maybe I’ve been overdoing the iodine.

I read today Ukrainians are stocking up on iodine, which is causing some in rural QLD townships to do so as well because they consider themselves red hot targets too.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 10:42 pm

31 minutes in and Vivek Ramaswamy is switched on with that Stossel interview posted @ 9:56pm.

Good stuff. He’s not mucking around.

Dot
Dot
May 16, 2023 10:46 pm

Lumping Stew Peters in with them. You are a dickhead. I rate Stew above Tucker.

Mull on that.

No.

Stossel interview

This is what your public wants. More please.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 10:49 pm

Dotsays:
May 16, 2023 at 10:46 pm
Lumping Stew Peters in with them. You are a dickhead. I rate Stew above Tucker.

Mull on that.

No.

Yes. He’s better than Tucker.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 16, 2023 10:51 pm

JCsays:

May 16, 2023 at 10:42 pm

Sanchez

I thought Diana died in the Asian tsunami caused by those dreaded Israelis, or maybe I’ve been overdoing the iodine.

You’re confused.
Understandable given that Mossad were involved in both the tsunami and the Diana prang.
But they were carried out by different operational arms of Big Zionism.

I read today Ukrainians are stocking up on iodine, which is causing some in rural QLD townships to do so as well because they consider themselves red hot targets too.

Yeah, nah.
I’ve seen Vlad’s Triple J Hot 100 targets.
Nothing in Queensssland.
Bitter-sweet.
It must be a relief for them to not be on the list.
But also disappointing to find that they are so insignificant.

Dot
Dot
May 16, 2023 10:51 pm

These Beer Wars, or the Beerpocalypse, is too funny.

Offended thumb takes offence to Kathy Ireland.

Salty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYzhM-5RPVs

Mark Dice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkQSDsWA9sE

Americans may give up drinking beer. I haven’t seen anything like this in my life.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 10:54 pm

Yes. He’s better than Tucker.

I’ll qualify that. Let’s see if Tucker comes remotely close on subject matter that Stew brings up.

We wait and see.

Dot
Dot
May 16, 2023 10:54 pm

Mull on that.

No.

Yes.

No.

Indolent
Indolent
May 16, 2023 10:57 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 10:58 pm

Dotsays:
May 16, 2023 at 10:54 pm
Mull on that.

No.

Yes.

No.

Yes

cohenite
May 16, 2023 10:58 pm

I’ll leave you dickheads with Bells Theorem.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 16, 2023 10:59 pm

But also disappointing to find that they are so insignificant.

When I say “insignificant” I mean as a nuclear target.
Not insignificant as individuals.
Perish the thought.
We all value our Queensland brothers and sisters immensely.
Even those with iodine addictions and mass murder fetishes.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 16, 2023 11:00 pm

Steve tricklersays:

May 16, 2023 at 10:58 pm

Dotsays:
May 16, 2023 at 10:54 pm
Mull on that.

No.

Yes.

No.

Yes

Nyet

Dot
Dot
May 16, 2023 11:02 pm

The only thing I saw Stew Peters do was hysterically fall back in his fainting chair when something rather well known was told to him, he’s flaky and fake.

That was enough for me.

“Better than Tucker Carlson”

…and I’ve caught bigger fish than Vic Hislop.

Indolent
Indolent
May 16, 2023 11:03 pm

QAnon 2.0?

Many have concluded QAnon was a Deep State intelligence operation to lull Trump supporters into complacency in the runup to the 2020 election and to provide a new pejorative term for the Left to use against the Right. The timing of the rise and abandonment of QAnon postings adds credence to this belief. “Trust the plan” was a component of a sophisticated strategy (concocted far earlier than almost anyone now realizes) to ensure Trump’s 2020 defeat.

Sadly, this is all too likely.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 11:04 pm

Dotsays:
May 16, 2023 at 11:02 pm

You are full of sh*t.

Again, a dickhead.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 16, 2023 11:07 pm

QAnon is a Mossad operation.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 11:09 pm

Show us your cards, Dot.

Dot
Dot
May 16, 2023 11:10 pm

Stew Peters is a hysterical amateur with terrible takes and he doesn’t break stories or add any value to them.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 11:11 pm

Dotsays:
May 16, 2023 at 11:02 pm
The only thing I saw Stew Peters do was hysterically fall back in his fainting chair when something rather well known was told to him, he’s flaky and fake.

Provide the link.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 16, 2023 11:11 pm

Went to the bank today. Closed- no notes, no sorry signs, opening hours on the door said otherwise, but closed.
So went to the barbers. In the chair, chair alongside turns over, next customer is a ten-ish boy in school uniform. Hairdresser talking to his mum, because he’s apparently mute.
“Any triggers, touch, sound, scent?”
(mum, acting like it’s her thankless burden)”Nah just verbal socials, no direct address or eye contact, and don’t say out loud that he’s the opposite of bad.”
What a strange time we’re living in.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 11:14 pm

Dotsays:
May 16, 2023 at 11:10 pm
Stew Peters is a hysterical amateur with terrible takes and he doesn’t break stories or add any value to them.

F*ckwit status confirmed.

Back it up, smart arse.

Dot
Dot
May 16, 2023 11:17 pm

That’s my opinion…what are you going to do, change my mind by being combative and insulting?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 11:18 pm

I think that flu you just had has screwed with your head.

C’mon, let’s go. Back your claims. It should be easy.

Dot
Dot
May 16, 2023 11:21 pm

My claim is that Stew Peters sucks and is a hysterical little bitch.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 11:24 pm

Dotsays:
May 16, 2023 at 11:17 pm
That’s my opinion…what are you going to do, change my mind by being combative and insulting?

Stop shooting your mouth off with BS!

Back up your claims, otherwise, piss off! Give it your best shot. Give us details. It’s not hard.

Pat Benatar – Hit Me With Your Best Shot (1980)

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 11:25 pm

Dotsays:
May 16, 2023 at 11:21 pm
My claim is that Stew Peters sucks and is a hysterical little bitch.

Bingo! You’ve got f-all.

Dot
Dot
May 16, 2023 11:28 pm

My claims are fine.

You are making hay over this:

The only thing I saw Stew Peters do was hysterically fall back in his fainting chair when something rather well known was told to him, he’s flaky and fake.

Get over it.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 11:30 pm

Dotsays:
May 16, 2023 at 11:28 pm

Your claims are unsubstantiated crap.

Dot
Dot
May 16, 2023 11:33 pm

Okay cool.

I love Stew Peters and his thinly veiled anti semitism.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 11:36 pm

Dotsays:
May 16, 2023 at 11:33 pm
Okay cool.

I love Stew Peters and his thinly veiled anti semitism.

Dickhead status confirmed x 2.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 16, 2023 11:36 pm

Who is Stew Peters?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 16, 2023 11:38 pm

I love Stew Peters and his thinly veiled anti semitism.

I don’t like my anti semitism veiled, thinly or otherwise.
I like my anti semitism loud and proud, Joe Vialls style.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 11:39 pm
Dot
Dot
May 16, 2023 11:42 pm

A cautionary tale of a man who found wealth and started enjoying the high life of a billionaire in secret societies etc. Don’t give your life up through death by SIMP, don’t die for some crazy p-sleeve you meet at an orgy.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12082583/Cash-App-founder-attended-sex-parties-sister-accused-killer.html

Cash App founder Bob Lee, 43, ‘attended underground sex and drug parties with married sister of his accused killer’ in the weeks before his murder in San Francisco

Friends of Cash App founder Bob Lee have told how he was a regular at underground sex and drug parties with Khazar Momeni
Her brother, Nima Momeni, has been charged with Lee’s murder
Prosecutors say Nima confronted Lee at one of these parties the night before he was found stabbed to death

At least Nima Momeni was wearing a mask in court and won’t kill anyone.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 11:49 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
May 16, 2023 at 11:38 pm
I love Stew Peters and his thinly veiled anti semitism.

I don’t like my anti semitism veiled, thinly or otherwise.
I like my anti semitism loud and proud, Joe Vialls style.

Another dickhead.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 11:52 pm

Oops.

Sancho Panzersays:
May 16, 2023 at 11:38 pm
I love Stew Peters and his thinly veiled anti semitism.

I don’t like my anti semitism veiled, thinly or otherwise.
I like my anti semitism loud and proud, Joe Vialls style.

Another dickhead.

Alamak!
Alamak!
May 16, 2023 11:56 pm

…what are you going to do, change my mind by being combative and insulting?

Stealing your technique and paying zero royalties for such priceless knowledge of the rhetorical arts. Its a crime.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 16, 2023 11:58 pm

Joe Vialls.

Another dickhead.

Agreed.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 16, 2023 11:58 pm

Healthy frog population in inner city Perth. Happy critters.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 17, 2023 12:02 am

Sancho Panzersays:
May 16, 2023 at 11:58 pm

Another dickhead.

That status was directed at you.

Dot
Dot
May 17, 2023 12:02 am

Stealing your technique and paying zero royalties for such priceless knowledge of the rhetorical arts. Its a crime.

…salty much?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 17, 2023 12:06 am
Alamak!
Alamak!
May 17, 2023 12:08 am

…salty much?

Nah, enjoying the non-debate above immensely. And your text on “being combative and insulting” is a nice example of the projection you are so very good at.

Keep going, Sir! We all enjoy the punch and judy show you perform …

Dot
Dot
May 17, 2023 12:14 am

Unironically, “Alamak” all you ever post is rhetoric. You never post an original thought or have a discussion.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 17, 2023 12:26 am

People have said on YT comments that they can steal CASH when grasping the leash.

Nope. He’ll bolt and drag you on your face if you attempt to do so. The dog is immensely powerful.

You’d be f*cked attempting to do so.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 17, 2023 1:25 am
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 17, 2023 2:06 am

Gosh the Iodine was flowing freely tonight.

Johnny Rotten
May 17, 2023 2:31 am

GreyRangasays:
May 17, 2023 at 2:06 am
Gosh the Iodine was flowing freely tonight.

It was sweetness and love in heavy disguise.

Tom
Tom
May 17, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
May 17, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
May 17, 2023 4:05 am
John H.
John H.
May 17, 2023 4:05 am

eric hintonsays:
May 16, 2023 at 3:05 pm
Dotsays:
May 16, 2023 at 12:48 pm

Would you mind clarifying what you understand to be the import of that abstract you keep posting. In earlier posts you appeared to say that reverse transcription was unknown until 2021 when in fact it has been known for decades. This time it reads as if you consider that RNA templates playing a role in repair of DNA double strand breaks would be bad thing.

Perhaps he had in mind reverse transcriptase, the enzyme that, very occasionally, allows RNA write back into the DNA template. DOT knows his stuff is correct about this.

Tom
Tom
May 17, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
May 17, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
May 17, 2023 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
May 17, 2023 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
May 17, 2023 4:12 am

A.F. Branco. Bam!

Tom
Tom
May 17, 2023 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
May 17, 2023 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
May 17, 2023 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
May 17, 2023 4:17 am
Tom
Tom
May 17, 2023 4:18 am
Tom
Tom
May 17, 2023 4:19 am
Tom
Tom
May 17, 2023 4:21 am
Tom
Tom
May 17, 2023 4:22 am
Tom
Tom
May 17, 2023 4:23 am
John H.
John H.
May 17, 2023 4:30 am

DrBeauGansays:
May 16, 2023 at 3:38 pm
People have been conditioned to obey. By and large people responded to the Covid “crisis” in good faith…it was not a measure of stupidity or laziness or moral cowardice.

People who have been conditioned to obey, and who trust authority, are a large part of the problem.

Conditioning on stilts. It is the default mode, necessary for a society to function, many argue it is a major reason that religions flourish. Perelman complained even most mathematicians are sheep. Is it just a coincidence that God is the Father and the Virgin Mary is worshipped? We spend most of our developmental cycle in the presence of authority figures and are forcefully required to submit to them, vital for survival and much else. My authority figure saved me from getting hit by a car. I must obey! Frank Sulloway has an interesting but problematic take of creative thinking. He argues that a principal driver of creativity is a developmental cycle conflict with an authority figure. Not the only principle driver! Given the other factors I stated the idea is for me at least intuitive appealing.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 17, 2023 4:41 am

France selling military equipment to Armenia is odd isn’t it?
Considering France is providing support to Ukraine & Armenia is a client state of Russia.
It’s almost like war is good for business.
Some businesses, that is.

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 17, 2023 4:44 am

Rita Panahi on someone known on these pages. Mzz Gardner if you don’t like Australia, leave:

It’s only May but already the self-loathing anti-Australia Day sentiment is making headlines, thanks to entitled activist athletes.

Normally we have to wait until early January for the hate to begin, but this week Indigenous cricketer Ash Gardner hit out at Cricket Australia for scheduling a men’s Test match against the West Indies on Australia Day.

“I just don’t understand why this one day of the year – which is a day of mourning, which doesn’t have a very good history of what happened on that day, that there needs to be cricket … Why does there need to be something that represents something that’s quite morbid.”

Morbid? Our national holiday is neither morbid nor a day of mourning nor a day commemorating an “invasion”.

It is a celebration of all we are and all we’ve built in the lucky country.

As for the “history of what happened on that day” it seems Gardner is ignorant of what occurred on January 26, 1788. The First Fleet arrived at Botany Bay on January 18, it was on January 26 when they raised the Union Jack flag a little further north at Sydney Cove.

Perhaps CA who plan to use the day-night Test to lecture Australians about how “painful” the day is could instead impart some indisputable facts.

Gardner also warned that Cricket Australia would have difficulty finding someone to conduct a Welcome to Country. (a pleasant change in the winds)

She said: “Welcoming people on to stolen land is probably not appropriate”.

Well, here’s the thing, Ash and Cricket Australia, I don’t need to be welcomed to my own country, and I don’t think I’m living on stolen land.

I don’t think that as a migrant my right to feel Australian and entitled to call this country mine is any less than yours because of my ancestry or your ancestry.

And, guess what, the overwhelming majority of Australians in poll after poll feel precisely the same way.

Despite the persistent vitriol against the day from the bulk of the media, polls from a number of organisations including Roy Morgan, Deakin University and Core Data, show that the great majority of Australians support the national holiday and want it to remain on January 26.

A Roy Morgan poll conducted just five months ago found two in three wanted Australia Day to remain on January 26.

Elite athletes, woke local councils and other organisations should take note.

John H.
John H.
May 17, 2023 5:05 am

feelthebernsays:
May 17, 2023 at 4:41 am
France selling military equipment to Armenia is odd isn’t it?
Considering France is providing support to Ukraine & Armenia is a client state of Russia.
It’s almost like war is good for business.
Some businesses, that is.

A US military bod recently stated that for every 25 dollars the USA spends on military procurement China spends 1 dollar. Excellent business in the USA.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
May 17, 2023 5:07 am

How can anyone have any confidence whatsoever in the ‘justice’ system as administered in the ACT given the disgraceful conduct shown in the Knickerless Higgins debacle and not forgetting the Sarah-Jane Parkinson travesty.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 17, 2023 6:35 am

I just don’t understand why this one day of the year – which is a day of mourning, which doesn’t have a very good history of what happened on that day, that there needs to be cricket

Gardner has maybe two years left in the game, and is rapidly being overtaken by a bunch of younger, better chick cricketers*.

Following the Pat Cummins blueprint, she is clearly looking three steps ahead to various well-paid ambassadorships and similar sinecures to keep her comfortably feet-up after the last vestiges of her sporting career shrivel and die.

*A low bar.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 17, 2023 6:38 am

I will be absolutely astounded if Gardner, whose indigenousness is comparable to that of Bruce Pascoe, hasn’t already mapped out some Voice-related income streams in the next several years as well.

Anchor What
Anchor What
May 17, 2023 6:43 am

Today in No Evidence of Election Fraud:
Kari Lake has three whistleblowers who say officials counted 130,000 ballots which did not pass signature verification.
I see elsewhere that it’s alleged the Durham Report lends weight to the argument that 2020 was rigged. Apparently Greg Gutfeld voiced his opinion that questioning the 2020 result was fair and reasonable. And, there’s a video of a producer at Fox News saying something interesting. Could Tucker’s firing be one of the settlement conditions?

rosie
rosie
May 17, 2023 6:46 am
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 17, 2023 6:47 am

Bob and Bourne, perhaps I was being oversensitive re how my advice to Muddy was perceived. There’s no way I wanted to upset him so I was worried if I’d stepped over some line about dentistry. Nevertheless, maintaining teeth is important, as others have now noted here.

We have friends coming over for lunch so I am heading back to bed for another hour or two of sleep after Attapuss woke me wanting to play. He has suddenly become besotted with the little white felt mouse he’s ignored for months and I have to throw it down the hallway for him. I do enjoy the transports of bounding delight he displays when he catches it and brings it back for another throw, but he can be worse than any toddler sometimes re early morning playtime demands. Hairy just moans pick him up and lock him in his room, but once I hold that purring bundle of fur, I’m emotional putty.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 17, 2023 6:48 am

Biden’s not coming to Australia.

Oh no. How sad. Never mind.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 17, 2023 6:50 am

Extraction 2 trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y274jZs5s7s

Wow.
Just wow.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 17, 2023 6:51 am

Voice news.

Voice support slides again as debate rages over model (SMH, 17 May, paywalled)

Support for the Indigenous Voice has tumbled from 58 to 53 per cent over the past month in the crucial “yes or no” question that will decide a referendum on the issue later this year, deepening the risk of defeat after furious disputes on the change.

The sharp fall in support includes pivotal shifts against the Voice in big states such as Queensland and volatile swings in smaller states that challenge assumptions that Australians will cast a majority vote for the contentious change to the Constitution.

Resolve poll. Sky also has a story but it didn’t have any useful text so I grabbed these two paras from the Silly, as they give the essence. Looks like the punters aren’t so sure about what they’re finding under the hood, and the more they find out about it the less they like it.

Dot
Dot
May 17, 2023 6:55 am

Knuckles

Daniel Jones, an Australian prison guard, had dated Sarah-Jane Parkinson, an airline worker

I’m getting bad vibes.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 17, 2023 7:04 am

As for the “history of what happened on that day” it seems Gardner is ignorant of what occurred on January 26, 1788. The First Fleet arrived at Botany Bay on January 18, it was on January 26 when they raised the Union Jack flag a little further north at Sydney Cove.

Ash Gardiner might also like to note that by taking the fleet up from Botany Bay on the 18th and thus ‘settling’ legally by international law in Sydney Harbour, and then raising the British flag on the 26th, Governor Phillip beat the French to taking possession of a broadly defined Eastern Australia by only hours, for La Perouse sailed into Botany Bay on the day Phillip sailed out and up to Sydney Harbour, which Cook had mapped out as the proper place to settle. Botany Bay was a ruse to hide that fact.

The French were rather different in their colonising approaches to the British. Ash Gardiner should thank her aboriginal lucky stars that the precepts of the Scottish Enlightenment came with the British from the very moment of raising that flag, where all were declared equal under the law, while the French were just working up to a bloody revolution about rights that in 1789 till 1791 caused complete chaos and many deaths.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 17, 2023 7:05 am

had dated Sarah-Jane Parkinson, an airline worker

The ex-Mrs KD, aka The Skank, was an ‘airline worker’.

The black vans should be here any minute now.

Crossie
Crossie
May 17, 2023 7:15 am

Knuckle Dragger says:
May 17, 2023 at 6:48 am
Biden’s not coming to Australia.

Oh no. How sad. Never mind.

If true it’s a good thing. We don’t need another liar in our parliament house, we have enough of those.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 17, 2023 7:19 am

I’m getting bad vibes.

If the vibes stop after a few seconds it’s probably an earthquake.
I predicted this.

Cassie of Sydney
May 17, 2023 7:19 am

Janet A’s journalism in the Oz has been outstanding on the Lehmann persecution*. Today, she really gets down to the nitty gritty and doesn’t shy away from asking tough questions, questions many of us here have asked since day one of this sorry sordid saga, and questions which many of us know the answer to……

Did Shane Drumgold succumb to #MeToo zealotry?
JANET ALBRECHTSEN

The ACT Director of Public Prosecutions has made some wild claims about political conspiracies between the Morrison government and the Australian Federal Police, between senior ministers and Bruce Lehrmann’s defence team, and between the AFP and defence lawyers.

If valid, these very serious claims would destroy our trust in the proper administration of justice. Therefore, claims of this gravity must be supported by evidence.

Yet Shane Drumgold’s claims were not supported by evidence. They were so manifestly unmeritorious that Drumgold admitted last week he was mistaken about political interference in the investigation of Lehrmann.

The lack of evidence to support Drumgold’s allegations of political interference by the then government must, invariably, lead us to ask why on earth the DPP made these claims.

Was he so determined to secure a successful conviction that he was willing to put these serious claims about political conspiracies to the jury without any evidence apart from Brittany Higgins’s claims? If so, why was the DPP so determined? What motivated him?

During the first week of the Sofronoff board of inquiry into the ACT’s criminal justice system, Drumgold admitted to many errors and misjudgments during his handling of the prosecution and trial of Lehrmann, as well as events after the mistrial.

He admitted to potentially misleading the court, and for paying insufficient attention to the presumption of innocence.

But it’s high time we turned the question of political interference in the prosecution of Lehrmann on its head and asked whether the DPP’s judgment was affected by the political whirlwinds that engulfed this national scandal.

These forces were amplified by the politics of the #MeToo movement, where advocates have given, and continue to give, short shrift to principles of due process, the presumption of innocence and a fair trial. That background is beyond question.

In opposition, Labor pursued the rape complaint for political purposes. It did so ruthlessly, day in and day out, especially targeting Linda Reynolds, Scott Morrison and even its own senator, Kimberley Kitching. The Australian understands that text messages between Higgins and her partner, David Sharaz, record their contact with Labor senator Katy Gallagher about the politics of using this rape allegation against the Coalition government.

Sharaz was also caught – during a recording for Higgins’s interview on The Project – mentioning the political timing and his good friend, understood to be Gallagher. The Australian understands that other messages between Higgins and Sharaz mention Higgins’s contact with Labor MP Tanya Plibersek. This was before Lehrmann being charged, raising the question of how far these potent political forces extended.

The pressures were so pervasive that Morrison apologised to Higgins in parliament, joining the media and political forces that daily undermined the principles that underpin our criminal justice system, including the presumption of innocence.

The question on many people’s minds is: Why did Drumgold make so many profound errors of judgment? Was Drumgold ill-suited to exercise the power and duties that attach to a DPP, a position where a person is entrusted with the solemn, careful task of administering justice?

Others may ask whether the roiling political forces, fuelled by federal Labor and the media, to weaponise a rape allegation also ensnared Drumgold in some way, affecting his judgment, from time to time, as minister of justice.

For example, did these political whirlwinds affect Drumgold’s judgment about prosecuting Lehrmann given grave concerns among senior AFP officers that there was not enough evidence to charge Lehrmann?

Did these political forces affect Drumgold’s judgment when he made brief and dismissive comments to Lisa Wilkinson when she sought his advice about her Logies speech? Did those political forces affect Drumgold’s other decisions, including: when he told ACT Chief Justice Lucy McCallum that the section of a proofing note concerning his comments to Wilkinson were contemporaneous, and created by his junior solicitor, when he knew that neither of these things were true; when he decided to target Aaron Patrick’s book Ego, about Malcolm Turnbull, but not other media that mentioned the Higgins rape allegation; when he dismissed AFP concerns about Higgins’s inconsistencies; when he fought to keep police material from the defence; when he claimed privilege over a document even though he had not read it; when he provided wording to a junior solicitor that resulted in an affidavit used to oppose disclosure, that the DPP agreed last week had the potential to mislead McCallum?

The list goes on. Did the heated and impassioned political environment affect Drumgold’s decision to treat Fiona Brown, arguably the most important witness in the trial, so poorly that she wrote a letter of complaint to the Bar Association earlier this year, and has rejected his claims about her at the inquiry last week?

Did Labor’s weaponisation of this emerging national scandal play a part in Drumgold’s claim, put to the jury – with no evidence – that there were “strong political forces at play in the period immediately after the events, through the election and beyond” and that “from the evidence and actions of Senator Reynolds during this trial those same political forces were still a factor”?

In other words, did Drumgold behave, at times, more like a Labor politician than an objective and fair-minded minister of justice?

Did political forces play a part in Drumgold’s extraordinary and emotional letter to AFP boss Neil Gaughan in November last year alleging that police had undermined the prosecution and trial of Lehrmann, again with not a skerrick of evidence?

Did political influences come into play when Drumgold decided to release that letter to The Guardian, earning himself a media medal for the fastest Freedom of Information response – so fast that names were not redacted and people mentioned in the letter were not consulted, as required by FOI laws.

That was such a dodgy decision that the DPP admits in his inquiry statement that, following a report by the ACT Ombudsman, he apologised to the AFP and instituted a training course for his executives “including myself”.

Did political forces play a part in his highly controversial speech in early December last year when he praised Higgins when announcing he would not retry Lehrmann? In the inquiry he admitted he didn’t think enough about the impact of that statement on the defendant’s right to the presumption of innocence.

What on earth explains the long list of rash and ill-conceived decisions by the DPP? Was it #MeToo zealotry? Did political pressures ensnare him? Incompetence?

Any mix of these possible factors is a dangerous concoction in the hands of a DPP who exercises the power and authority of the state against individual citizens.

The questions go on. Did any of these factors impair his directions to junior staff? Did the power imbalance between him and his staff lead to poor decision-making?

Did the DPP have any contact with Labor MPs, federally or in the ACT, about this scandal? If so, to what effect? If there was no direct communication, what role, if any, did Labor’s pursuit of the rape allegation for political purposes play in the DPP’s decisions?

One of the most important tasks for Walter Sofronoff KC will be determining the motivations of the DPP, especially when poor decisions were made. That means answering questions as to what role, if any, political forces played in the poor decisions by the DPP during this debacle.”

I know the answers to Janet’s questions above, and I suspect many others here also know the answers.

* I use the word “persecution” deliberately. From day one this has been a political witch hunt, drenched in political malfeasance, targeting a man to bring down a government.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 17, 2023 7:24 am

Quality column from John Lehmann, not that dinosaur James Halliday.
May or may not be paywalled.

Big Sky pinot noir from Martinborough joins red wine gems from Yarra Valley, Adelaide Hills, Tumbarumba and California

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/food-drink/big-sky-pinot-noir-from-martinborough-joins-red-wine-gems-from-yarra-valley-adelaide-hills-tumbarumba-and-california/news-story/afcfacc2b5801239f9f17ae1f6e0e39e

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
May 17, 2023 7:25 am

Voice news.

Voice support slides again as debate rages over model (SMH, 17 May, paywalled)

Support for the Indigenous Voice has tumbled from 58 to 53 per cent over the past month in the crucial “yes or no” question that will decide a referendum on the issue later this year, deepening the risk of defeat after furious disputes on the change.

The sharp fall in support includes pivotal shifts against the Voice in big states such as Queensland and volatile swings in smaller states that challenge assumptions that Australians will cast a majority vote for the contentious change to the Constitution.

Resolve poll. Sky also has a story but it didn’t have any useful text so I grabbed these two paras from the Silly, as they give the essence. Looks like the punters aren’t so sure about what they’re finding under the hood, and the more they find out about it the less they like it.

I think the loss in support of ‘The Voice’ over time will continue.
You can get into many philosophical debates of the nuances of the voice, but in the end it comes down to one issue. It is racist in concept and most Australians are not racists.

Pogria
Pogria
May 17, 2023 7:26 am

feelthebernsays:
May 17, 2023 at 6:50 am
Extraction 2 trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y274jZs5s7s

Wow.
Just wow.

Looks good Bern. Nice to see Hemsworth looking butch for a change instead of looking like one of Cronkite’s Owls. 😀

Cassie of Sydney
May 17, 2023 7:27 am

“It is racist in concept and most Australians are not racists.”

Correct.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 17, 2023 7:30 am

https://www.rt.com/news/576382-elon-musk-soros-twitter/

when pressed by journalist Brian Krassenstein, claiming the Hungarian-American businessman was a frequent right-wing punching bag because some people object to his “good intentions” as “they disagree with his political affiliations.”
“You assume they are good intentions,” Musk responded on Twitter early on Tuesday. “They are not. He wants to erode the very fabric of civilization. Soros hates humanity.”

Tell it, Elon!

rosie
rosie
May 17, 2023 7:31 am

We need more ‘threats’ that Aboriginal people won’t perform welcome to country if the Voice doesn’t get up.
A Catholic parish not far from me tried an acknowledgement at the start of mass a few weeks ago, there were sufficient complaints they haven’t done it since.
No virtue signalling add ons to sacred liturgy if you please.

calli
calli
May 17, 2023 7:35 am

Nice Hemsworth unreconstructed manly man eye candy, with Aussie accent topping.

Thanks.

rosie
rosie
May 17, 2023 7:37 am

More denying Australians access to national parks and landmarks, more threats to mining, more demands for millions, nah billions of dollars in reparations coming from white people with an aboriginal great great grandmother, more grandstanding about ‘invasion day’ more out of control violence in rural Australia, more letting us know nothing will ever be enough for the grievance mongers.

calli
calli
May 17, 2023 7:43 am

Jacinta’s short and pithy “No” ad taps straight into the racism angle which is the Voice’s overriding feature. And she underscores her point by referring to her family.

An excellent foil to the Wormtongues in the “Yes” campaign, pretending that it’s simply “Constitutional recognition” of aborigines. If it was simply that, why the wall-to-wall nightly nagging? The idea is that volume and frequency will drown out any misgivings. And they may be right.

The irony – demands for a Voice that simply won’t Shut Up.

calli
calli
May 17, 2023 7:46 am

The rural violence is straight out of the BLM/Antifa playbook. It worked in the States, they think it will work here.

Don’t be too sure about that.

Vicki
Vicki
May 17, 2023 7:52 am

Feeling very sad and contemplative this morning. Yesterday we revisited the Australian War Memorial after a number of years. Brendan Nelson did a wonderful job in renewing and reconfiguring many installations. Overall, it is no longer a collection of war memorabilia but is a confronting and powerful tribute to the sacrifices of Australians. It also visually shocks with photographs etc of the terrible conditions suffered and the horrible deaths. It does not take a back step. As we approach a defining confrontation with a militant and aggressive China, it is so very relevant.

We left a red poppy at the Afghanistan section – for the SAS fatalities. A response to the current vendetta in the courts against the Special Forces. We noted the display of the uniform of Ben Roberts-Smith & wondered when “they” would remove it.

Incidentally, the huge new building program does impinge at the moment & the entry points are not well signposted.

rosie
rosie
May 17, 2023 7:52 am

Oh and more claiming they know a mythical water serpent is upset because someone built a culvert.
The potential to interfere with private property rights; unlimited.

Robert Sewell
May 17, 2023 8:09 am

Boambee John:

Ed Casesays:
May 16, 2023 at 7:02 pm
Dental Hospitals still use mercury fillings, so there’s mercury vapor everywhere.

Boambee John:
Last time I was there – about 6 months ago, they used some white epoxy stuff to replace a filling that had been in for 40+ years.
I doubt it was Spakfilla.

Dot
Dot
May 17, 2023 8:10 am

The Moller Memo is the best thing to come out of politics lately.

It’s Mollerween!

Roger
Roger
May 17, 2023 8:13 am

Small business profits reportedly down 60% in this region, and I would think this region is doing better than most across the country.

Robert Sewell
May 17, 2023 8:17 am

Crossie:

Moral of the story: keep your nukes or get them if you don’t have them.

A far better quote:

“Among other evils which being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised.”
? Niccolò Machiavelli

chrisl
chrisl
May 17, 2023 8:20 am

Interest rates in Argentina at 97%
Inflation rate in Argentina 109%
Wow!

Roger
Roger
May 17, 2023 8:21 am

The potential to interfere with private property rights; unlimited.

“Always was, always will be.”

Any “treaties” entered into by Australian governments could resolve this issue decisively if they were negotiated with everyones’ interests in mind. If the indigenous get reparations for loss of land, they acknowledge they have forfeited an interest in that land.

Robert Sewell
May 17, 2023 8:24 am

Flyingduk:

I repeat my offer to send you a copy of ‘The Art of the Argument’ if you would like to do better?

Ta. Didn’t know of the existence of the book, just bought it through DB’s Amazon site.

Dot
Dot
May 17, 2023 8:24 am

Interest rates in Argentina at 97%
Inflation rate in Argentina 109%
Wow!

Look, there’s still time to make money off the upcoming boom with real rates being less than zero! My free report tells you the six areas set to boom around Cordoba and Mendoza….

lotocoti
lotocoti
May 17, 2023 8:27 am

Excellent business in the USA.

After some damn fine shooting* the other night, the Saudis are probably wondering
why they paid cold hard cash for Block NFG Patriots
when the Ukies got the good ones for free.**
*credat Judaeus Apella, non ego as they say in the Classics.
**Assuming that was a Patriot battery blowing its load.

flyingduk
flyingduk
May 17, 2023 8:27 am

“It is racist in concept and most Australians are not racists.”

Correct.

All cultures are, by necessity, ‘racist*’ – its a variant of the ‘paradox of tolerance’ (where a culture of infinite tolerance will inevitably be replaced by an intolerant culture which they tolerate, but does not tolerate them in return). As an example, the near compulsory religion of Islam in Afghanistan, Iran and much of the Middle East has reduced any alternatives to a persecuted rump.

* A gentler term is ‘in group preference’, for those who allow themselves to be shut down by words rather than arguments.

Crossie
Crossie
May 17, 2023 8:28 am

I think the loss in support of ‘The Voice’ over time will continue.
You can get into many philosophical debates of the nuances of the voice, but in the end it comes down to one issue. It is racist in concept and most Australians are not racists.

One commenter on Sky last night said that her mother watched Jacinta Price’s ads and is now for No whereas before she was for Yes. Jacinta is better regarded by the indigenes than all the Marcias and Stans and it must be having an effect with them as well.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 17, 2023 8:29 am

The rural violence is straight out of the BLM/Antifa playbook. It worked in the States, they think it will work here.

Worked in South Africa. I’m hearing reports of carloads of Aborigines on rural properties, here. “This is Aboriginal land.”

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 17, 2023 8:30 am

Knuckles a “low bar” does that mean not being able to beat 14yo schoolboys. Why is it in all football codes the lezbeens have no positional play but in hockey, basketball and netball they do? Let them know if you have any idea. I don’t.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 17, 2023 8:30 am

objective and fair-minded minister of justice

What is this latest practice of referring to the DPP as a “minister of justice”? Administrator of justice perhaps, but surely not a minister?

Crossie
Crossie
May 17, 2023 8:33 am

Robert Sewell says:
May 17, 2023 at 8:17 am
Crossie:
Moral of the story: keep your nukes or get them if you don’t have them.
A far better quote:
“Among other evils which being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised.”
? Niccolò Machiavelli

Somebody else also said “weakness invites aggression” so anyone who doesn’t prepare for war will get it anyway, unless of course they are Canada hiding behind the US, literally.

Indolent
Indolent
May 17, 2023 8:34 am

At last, someone is doing something beyond just talk. We’ll have to see how far it goes, though.

BREAKING: Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Introduces Articles of Impeachment Against “Corrupt” FBI Director Christopher Wray

Robert Sewell
May 17, 2023 8:34 am

Feeltheberm:

UndeadFOIA has been chirping today about how little the Durham reported that wasn’t already covered in the Horowitz report.
His FOI requests uncovered more than Durham did in 4+ years.

Do you have a link please Ftb?
The amount of shit coming out about the Democrats says they now have to keep the Presidency forever or – as Clinton said “We’ll all hang from nooses.” If they fall, they’re doomed, so they have to keep cheating.

Dot
Dot
May 17, 2023 8:34 am

“minister of justice”

Pound me too is a cult, let’s call it “Happy Happyism”.

Dot
Dot
May 17, 2023 8:36 am

The leftist boomers on Haute Crapper are seriously defending Hunter Biden’s “career”.

I lied! He was a lobbyist for nine years!

Yes well. It’s a career I don’t hold in high regard.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 17, 2023 8:38 am

Robert Sewellsays:
May 17, 2023 at 8:09 am
Boambee John:

Ed Casesays:
May 16, 2023 at 7:02 pm
Dental Hospitals still use mercury fillings, so there’s mercury vapor everywhere.

Boambee John:
Last time I was there – about 6 months ago, they used some white epoxy stuff to replace a filling that had been in for 40+ years.
I doubt it was Spakfilla.

Grandpa Ed Simpson is a dickhead of the highest order. Any public dental organisation found using mercury amalgam in these litigious days is wide open to being sued for its back teeth (as would any private dentist).

He makes up rubbish and throws it out in the hope of causing confusion. I am struggling to think of a single positive contribution that he has made, apart from giving excuses for multiple “Mizzz Knickerless” comments.

Dot
Dot
May 17, 2023 8:38 am

carloads of Aborigines

The problem is half of them are paler than your average surf lifesaver.

shatterzzz
May 17, 2023 8:38 am

Thak God! .. the “turtle’ has found a job he can, almost, manage .. LOL!
https://ibb.co/NSHGMmk

Robert Sewell
May 17, 2023 8:38 am

ZK2A:

Regards the Sofronoff inquiry: Shane Drumgold took ‘stab’ at Bruce Lehrmann, says Steven Whybrow

Thanks for the updates – I cancelled my Australian account a year or so ago. (Mind you, I only started it so I could cancel it and tell them why.)

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
May 17, 2023 8:40 am

Excellent forensic article by Janet A. Thanks for posting Cassie.

caveman
caveman
May 17, 2023 8:41 am

Drumgold needs to go commando at the trial , complain about being bullied by questions ,do a mental health day off and sit back and wait for a six figure settlement.

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