Thanks Tom.
Open Thread – Tues 16 May 2023
- Bumtree #1
- Open Thread – Mon 29 April 2024
- Open Thread – Weekend 27 April 2024
- Nuclear power and the foundational lie
- Open Thread – Anzac Day 2024
Ben Garrison.
Michael Ramirez. Oh dear.
Al Goodwyn.
Tom Stiglich.
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Sorry!
What did you mean!
Johannes Leak.
Mark Knight.
Peter Broelman.
David Rowe.
Christian Adams.
Morten Morland.
Patrick Blower.
A.F. Branco.
Tom Stiglich.
Al Goodwyn.
Wow.
How could anyone without a crystal ball do this when the vaccines were being rolled out?
Also what ‘facts’ and what ‘numbers’?
Other than loopy stuff like one billion dying suddenly no-one has yet proven that vaccine injuries, though they did occur, are in any way excessive as a percentage of doses given, and there are plenty of facts and numbers that the vaccines did prevent hospitalisations and deaths in the vulnerable cohorts.
The laziness is in those that didn’t get vaxxed contining to pretend they are somehow intellectually superior and pointing at preposterous nonsense from ‘trusted bloggers’ as proof of their superiority, or merely asserting it.
That would be especially true in fortress WA who happily sat behind their invisible fence and still haven’t noticed that their excess deaths only started occurred after they finally opened their borders, not when they rolled out the vaccines.
Just pointing out that covid might just have been a serious health issue in 2020 and 2021 pre ‘pharmaceutical interventions’ and probably remains one for some people in its endemic stage.
Australia minimised mortality and morbidity from covid-19 compared with other countries in 2020 and 2021 with non-pharmaceutical interventions, research has found, with 281 deaths per million population compared with 2567 in the UK and 2985 in the US.2
2020 not in the baseline because deaths in Australia were significantly lower than normal, 2022 not in the baseline because deaths were significantly higher than normal.
I wonder if, in ten years time, the same little bunch of own back patters will be still congratulating themselves on a daily basis their all round intellectual superiority, in a chorus of oh me in perfect health going to live forever cos didn’t get the astrazeneca, the pfizer, the moderna, the novavaza, la la la.
There is also the lazy assumption, without offer a shred of evidence, that excess deaths occur exclusively in the vaccinated population.
Of course, when the special people die, that’s one of them there non excess deaths .
Today in “no evidence of electoral fraud”:
Wake up! Ballot harvesting is only part of the fraud story.
Jay Valentine warns that Trump and the MAGA Repubs are too slow on the uptake, and that 2024 will be another debacle unless they wise up.
Anchor What says:
May 16, 2023 at 6:31 am
I am sure they are aware of all this.
Trump has a major problem he cannot overcome, the GOP machinery is not supporting him.
Rich as he may be and donations help, but just look at the Dems’ organizational skills to get voters out, even out of their graves if need be, where are the Republicans?
21 Today!
(That is my extended podium position, not age.)
Fact number one: At the time the vaccines were rolled out and forced on people they were still undergoing evaluation, ergo, not fully approved.
Fact number two: Data from the Diamond Princess was crunched very early on and clearly showed which cohort of the population was susceptible.
Observation: When Delta came along with it’s claimed R0 of 5 (or higher) and NSW locked down and we were treated to the sombre nightly reporting of cases and deaths it was bloody obvious to me at least that there was a huge disconnect between what was being reported and what should have been happening if Delta was so serious coupled with a high R0. It was, however, obvious who were dying.
Fact number three: I was in more danger from the state than the virus.
Fact number four: I was in more danger from some of very fellow community members.
Fact number five: The MSMs’ role in this shit show cannot be understated along with a failed leadership class on all levels. They quite rightly deserve all derision and disgust possible.
The last thing I’ll say to you, Rosie is if these lock downs and vaccines are so bloody good then why are excess deaths continuing to run above baseline in many if not the majority of western countries?
“Jay Valentine warns that Trump and the MAGA Repubs are too slow on the uptake, and that 2024 will be another debacle unless they wise up.”
Trump and the Republicans were warned early in 2020 there’d be major fraud. They did nothing. Look, you can argue Trump was distracted by both Covid and the “summer of love” in 2020 but he and others were warned. It was patently obvious the Democrats were planning to cheat, particularly with voter mail in ballots, and Covid gave them the perfect cover to do so. We’ll see what happens next year. Apart from a few states like Florida, the US electoral system is shambolic.
I’m less interested in name calling and more interested in picking up the pieces.
Being a vaxx “holdout” does not confer intelligence. Nor does the opposite.
Definitely picking up the pieces though we need to ensure that we are not placed in this situation again. How do we prevent the government, but more importantly their CHOs, from going rogue and stampeding us into isolation again? If there are no consequences for bad decisions there is no incentive for reform.
The most egregious sin of the pandemic was demonisation and outright banning of already established medications that could have saved lives. That was unforgivable and must be addressed.
Keep left!
Tesla cancels orders of Model S and Model X in the UK and will only sell left-hand-drive (15 May)
Inevitable that the same will happen here. Bad luck green tofu eaters.
There were lotsa meeja reports of deaths of everyone accross all demographics. But no pictures.
There were no reports on the grapevine… and no pictures either.
Livin’ in the look-at-me era of social media and cameraphones, there were no pictures.
If you didn’t twig right then that the pandemic was a sham, then sorry, but you’re not very bright.
If the car is wildly popular why is it then uneconomical to produce what the consumers want? Could it be that the car is losing its popularity? Sales stalled?
“I’m less interested in name calling and more interested in picking up the pieces.”
Indeed, and learning from what ensued and making sure it doesn’t happen again.
My anger is directed towards the MSM and politicians, particularly those on the right of centre who should have and could have spoken up, but instead almost all cowered in the back, apart from some notable exceptions, a brave few, names such as Antic, Rennick, Kelly and Christensen. But these few paid a heavy price, and were ruined politically, chiefly Craig Kelly and George Christensen, they’re now after Rennick, and Alex Antic is constantly referred to as “hard-right”. The Liberal Party don’t need Labor and the Greens to destroy their own, they’re good at doing it themselves.
Speaking of so called Liberals destroying real Liberals, I watched Moira’s interview with Peta Credlin last night. Moira is very well spoken, gracious, and measured, very measured, a complete opposite to that little weasel Pesutto. Moira and her constituents are the future of the Liberal Party, if the Victorian state party has a future and I have my severe doubts about that. What a loss to the party she is. Moira was considered with her words but just said that she has complete confidence in her lawyer. Good, this means she’s pressing ahead with litigation against the little weasel. Please note, not that I need to remind anyone here, but the little weasel Pesutto went on television and said that Moira was an associate of “Nazis”. He hasn’t apologised, he has simply slithered around the issue. This highly defamatory slur cannot go unchallenged and he must be held accountable.
Later on Sky last night, Kenny spoke to Kennett. Why he did I don’t know. I sat and watched Kennett and I thought he should be put in an attic or mausoleum somewhere, he reminds me of a ghastly animal head mount hanging from a wall in an old house, about to fall and covered in old dust because nobody wants to touch it. Kennett offers nothing of substance to political debate, and you could argue that perhaps he bears some responsibility for the terminal decline of the Victorian Liberals since 1999. Kennett refused to speak up for Moira, instead he went on about “party unity” and all that crapola, he didn’t say a word about how it’s inappropriate to smear someone on your own side as a “Nazi associate”.
Crossie – I don’t know, but I’ve just read this story:
Musk Tells Tesla Staff He Must Approve All Hiring (15 May)
That suggests some sort of cost saving drive is going on. Hard to tell much from those two stories though.
I don’t get Leak today, have I missed some news that he refers to or is it something else?
How do we prevent the government, but more importantly their CHOs, from going rogue and stampeding us into isolation again? If there are no consequences for bad decisions there is no incentive for reform.
Let’s see, consequences? Voters elect or re-elect Labor in all states and at federal level, giving them the “comfy chair” treatment.
MSM for the most part gives Labor soft treatment, allowing them to continue to say “the huge debt we inherited” without questioning the wall to wall whining for “covid welfare” that created the debt – mainly from Labor states.
Wally – recognition of the reality of the false assumptions around the Covid pandemic does not seem to relate to intelligence. Last night husband & I dined with old friend & her highly successful orthopaedic surgeon daughter. Naturally, Covid came up & I tiptoed around much of the discussion since friend is dear to us, as is her daughter & children. Not surprisingly she still believes Covid was a stealthy killer even though she conceded that children were rarely severely affected. I quietly suggested that the early response was panic driven & that the IFR that eventually emerged didn’t justify the panic. You could see that she wasn’t on board & we changed the subject.
This is an intelligent woman in the top ranks of medicos. God help us.
The constant refrain that Ivermectin was horse de-wormer, with the unstated (and ignorant) implication that it was animal medicine and would not work on humans.
Except just about every medicine we humans have is tested to see that it works on animals first. All those cancer treatments that are tried in mice and rabbits – what else do you think they are doing? “Well, it has killed 80% of the mice, so it must be safe for humans.” Does that sound right.
I believe that most antibiotics that humans use also work in exactly the same way on animals (mammals, at least) and it is merely a trick of dosage. That would have been quicker than, and safer, than forcing people to take vaccines without the trials and testing they are so particular about with everything else.
Ten to fifteen year trials for medications in Australia, yeah? Well, is that necessary or not? Did they rush out the mRNA vaccines or are they holding every other medicine back? Can’t have it both ways.
We will be as surely as the sun rises. It will be a different “catastrophe” and pushed just as hard and urgently as the last. People have been conditioned to obey. By and large people responded to the Covid “crisis” in good faith…it was not a measure of stupidity or laziness or moral cowardice.
Endlessly banging on about how clever and brave you were not to be jabbed simply reveals a blind spot that will be exploited in other ways. Some of the worst crimes of history have been committed or condoned by people with hardened hearts and seared consciences who thought they were taking the moral high ground.
From The Oz’s editorial today…
Shane Drumgold’s position as ACT Director of Public Prosecutions is proving tenuous amid intense questioning at Walter Sofronoff inquiry
Last Friday, ACT Attorney-General Shane Rattenbury declined an invitation to express confidence in his Director of Public Prosecutions, Shane Drumgold SC. Mr Rattenbury’s spokesman said the board of inquiry chaired by Walter Sofronoff KC into the ACT’s justice system was still under way and the government would allow it to complete its work.
That said, after Mr Drumgold finishes giving evidence it will be difficult for him to return to his day job pending Mr Sofronoff’s report on July 31.
It is clear Mr Drumgold’s relationship with the Australian Federal Police has broken down. In his incendiary November letter to the ACT chief police officer, Mr Drumgold said he wanted a public inquiry into police handling of Brittany Higgins’ rape allegations against Bruce Lehrmann.
One key issue centres on Mr Drumgold trying to prevent the Moller Report, prepared by police as part of the investigation into the rape allegation, from being disclosed to lawyers of defendant Mr Lehrmann.
Mr Drumgold said last week he might have “unintentionally” misled the ACT Supreme Court over an affidavit seeking to prevent the Moller Report being given to the defence team.
Mr Drumgold acknowledged he had claimed the Moller Report was privileged without having seen it and without checking with Detective Superintendent Scott Moller, who wrote it. In doing so, lawyers argue, Mr Drumgold went against a basic duty of a prosecutor to disclose any relevant evidence, particularly matters adverse to their case, to the defence.
Mr Drumgold also conceded he misled ACT Chief Justice Lucy McCallum, but “not intentionally”, in telling her that a note of his discussion with TV presenter Lisa Wilkinson over her upcoming Logies speech was contemporaneous when it was not.
More seriously, Mr Drumgold was admonished by Mr Sofronoff for failing to correct the record earlier about his serious claims that it was “possible, or even probable” that political pressure was brought to bear on the police to suppress the prosecution of Mr Lehrmann.
“Mr Drumgold, for the director of prosecutions to say ‘I hold a suspicion that it’s possible that a minister tried to get at the commissioner to stop a prosecution’ is a pretty serious thing to say,” Mr Sofronoff told him.
On Monday, Steven Whybrow SC, for Mr Lehrmann, said Mr Drumgold was meant to act as an “objective minister for justice” and not a solicitor for Ms Higgins. Yet when Mr Drumgold announced he was dropping the rape charge against Mr Whybrow’s client, his speech conveyed that Mr Lehrmann was “really guilty in his view”.
Mr Drumgold will take the stand again on Tuesday.
A complete dog’s breakfast.
Fake schools, fake students: Criminals make mockery of education visas
Yet still they come: ”Last week’s budget estimated international students would make up half of this year’s record 400,000 net migration forecast.”
Standby for moral panic and finger pointing by Team Albanese. Despite the fact that everybody in Canbra who is not catatonic knew exactly what was happening: Education is the country’s biggest export industry outside mining, worth more than $40 billion per year and supports 250,000 Australian jobs.
I recall a deluge of pictures from both China and Italy of wards and streets outside hospitals full of stretchers and sick people. And overrun hospitals in the UK.
Later, I realised that what came out of China was what was allowed to come out. But Italy? England?
There were long-time commenters on SincCat that thought they had it and might die and live blogged it. I’m not buying this “wise in hindsight” stuff – plenty of smart people thought it was real.
Broelman and Rowe both seem to think they are communicating something clever by referencing the Eurovision competition – which in fact means almost nothing to most Australians. Or did something remarkable happen which has made it headline worthy?
Incidentally, re the claim that no facts & figures available early on re Covid. Rubbish. World renown statisticians like Prof. Norman Fenton & Dr Jessica Rose we’re analysing data from the beginning & flagging the false government assumptions. Significant medical professionals from Harvard, Yale etc signed the Great Barrington Declaration including this data also very early on.
As someone said above, most people simply did not research this immense medical misstep.
A couple interesting articles on EU politics.
Poland Ascendant | Power Line (15 May)
Hungary ‘next Brexit’ as PM says there is now no point to the EU (15 May)
It’s notable that both countries are quite unwoke and don’t give much lip service to the EU green policies. Poland in particular unashamedly uses its coal resources for power generation, which is why their electricity price is half that of next door Germany. Hungary’s electricity price is even lower.
“Party unity” is pretty big with lemmings too.
Rather some people were picking up their teeth. A lot of people took advantage of the fear and did everything they could to denigrate, or cancel, any word that would allay any of that fear.
Their goal was to keep people terrified, and to turn them against each other.
Perhaps they should also be picking their ears, noses, and eyes.
Buyer’s remorse:
CEOs calling for a halt to Albanese’s “work place reforms” & a tax “shake up” to promote investment as the economy begins to stall.
Scott Morrison’s PwC job blow after talent agent rebuffed
Somewhere, a Miserable Ghost moans with schadenfreude and reaches for the Kleenex.
rosiesays:
May 16, 2023 at 6:03 am
I wonder if, in ten years time, the same little bunch of own back patters will be still congratulating themselves on a daily basis their all round intellectual superiority, in a chorus of oh me in perfect health going to live forever cos didn’t get the astrazeneca, the pfizer, the moderna, the novavaza, la la la.
Rosie – who is totally open minded and just follows the evidence* – seems to have missed the little fact the state overturned one of the most basic precepts of medical practice
The right to bodily autonomy.
If I have cancer and choose not to have treatment- even though I will surely die – the state has NEVER mandated I must have treatment forced on me.
The only people it has traditionally (and in legislation) been allowed to have medical interventions forced on are those incapable of making a decision (usually the insane)
This was done based on seriously overblown estimates of the possible fatalities the new China Wondercoffin would produce.
FOR 2 YEARS!
The data changed, but the bastardry stayed the same.
And the original “vulnerable populations” was everyone, according to hair on fire jouros and politicians.
I dont think you realize how vile and foul it is to have someone extolling the virtues of the wonderful “chicken soup in a needle” when basic rights to decide what medical treatment I choose to recieve is ignored.
I can reduce your chance of breast cancer 90% by chopping off your tits – that doesnt give me the right to mandate it for every woman in Australia.
* No not trusted bloggers, but trusted Pharma.
Calli, I saw those early reports out of China & then out of Italy. Scared the hell out of me. I sourced the Twitter feed of a nurse in Northen Italy who had dire stories not only of people dying but of doctors too. I talked about that with my medical friend last night & she agreed that the patients were mostly elderly & the doctors had virus overload as a result of not understanding the passage of the virus.
However, once the data started arriving in early 2021, I took a different view as did many on this blog.
Incidentally, I still believe some old people in China dying in the street did actually happen – after reading Drs Malcom Kendrick & Shankara Chetty explaining the curious drop of oxygen levels on the 7th or 8th day in some people due maybe to an allergic inflammatory reaction to viral debris.
I saw lots of empty-hallway-dancing NHS nurses, Calli.
OK I’ve got to check myself that I’m not crowing, but I started looking at the gaps in the story and with every floating red polyp globe came bugger all detail.
I’m not trying to gloat or boast, confirmation bias pushes both ways.
Lode, on a broader scale yes, punishment would be just and effective. I don’t see it happening.
My only concern is what I can do in a practical sense. Growling and barking on the internet seems a bit fatuous. It might make you feel good and earn you brownie points amongst the like-minded, but it does little to help people.
The neighbourhood centre here is busy with people living rough because of the dislocations and collapse caused by the so-called “Covid response”. Many are just out into the bush, living in their cars. More than ever before. I expect this is country wide, particularly in the warmer seaside locations. If you’re looking for a genuine crisis, this might be it.
I can imagine two uses for the Kleenex, and neither would be beneath that conniving snivelling little man.
Mother Lode says:
May 16, 2023 at 8:05 am
A few on this forum did their bidding, trying to backtrack since, but we remember.
I had to comply or lose the business, being in the food industry, lucky I had no side effects, so far anyway, and hope none ongoing.
😀
All good, provided you agree with me!
The enabling legislation has to be amended or repealed.
Maybe we are just a fearful generation, fearful of the natural world, and fearful of giving offence. Just think, in a few short years we’ve seen the cold corpse of NAZI-ism go from the bogeyman of Halloween dressups and Fawlty Towers to being the all-destroying unnamable ghost of Voldemort.
For all the theatre of Batflu Panic and Patriots Front alike, real damage is being wrought on our once sensible civilization and the conservatism which should be fighting for it. The Marxists, revisionists, and globalists are building their empire with the pieces. But I’m still fighting.
Again – how time changes attitudes.
When husband & I attended the famous protest rally against the mRNA vaccines in Canberra, we were not permitted to visit our Canberra friends because we were not vaccinated.
We are still unvaccinated but now it is OK! Go figure.
Universities were reporting no show rates up to c. 45% .
Sfw – I think he’s referencing this story:
No can do: our aluminium recycled offshore (Paywallian, 15 May)
Our cost structure would make it prohibitive here, I suspect, especially energy.
Gabor – there is every reason to believe you will be fine. New research indicates that it was particular vaccine batches that were responsible for the severe consequences. Whether this was because of temperature variations, contaminated phials, poor manufacturing standards is yet to be conclusively determined. But if, after more than a year, you have not had any of the classic adverse medical results – you should be fine.
Oh oh!
Miller Lite has learnt nothing from the Bud Lite fiasco.
All they had to do was shut up and watch their sales rise.
We were given a guest spot at Eurovision. I idly looked yesterday to see where we got on the rankings, but didn’t see anything. I have no idea who the Aussie was who was singing or what song they sang. I think the Swedes came first, Fins second and Israel third, and the Poms second last.
Bruce of Newcastle says:
May 16, 2023 at 8:23 am
I don’t get Leak today, have I missed some news that he refers to or is it something else?
I put it in the same category as the wood pellets shipped from the US to the UK.
Makes no sense.
I also watched this last night and thought Kennett was a total coward, he no longer needed to protect his position so he could have said something to de-escalate the situation. If he was protecting his legacy he failed at it, being non-commital will tarnish it.
As are the c. 18 million “vaccinated” Australians who haven’t had a booster in 6 months.
Your Canberra friends are probably among them.
Quite so.
Cancer is probably not the best example though, as it isn’t contagious in the way a coronavirus is. The issue was public health and the protection of the vulnerable and creation of “herd immunity”. So far, so good.
But it didn’t end there. It was politicised and propagandised and industrialised, and anyone who questioned it was pulverised. I could go on, but you get the drift. We’ve been over this endlessly, but still the accusations and sneering persists despite contributors here knowing the issues facing individuals.
And it isn’t over yet. Two western Sydney schools were closed this week because Covid. This despite knowing it isn’t dangerous for children and that remote learning isn’t learning at all and that dislocation does children more harm than a runny nose. They might as well close them permanently and tell the children enrolled not to bother with school.
Like the poor pupils they have learned nothing.
The Eurovision expansion into Australia, Israel etc is an aggressive move to contain the spread of the K-Pop empire. Ironically “our” artists seem to rise without a trace to representative icon status.
Somewhere, a Miserable Ghost moans with schadenfreude and reaches for the Kleenex.
Ectoplasm?
ScoMo is only now finding out that nobody likes a backstabber, liar and a megalomaniac.
BoN, thanks makes sense now. I don’t know how they recycle aluminium, I doubt it has the same electricity requirements as smelting but it would need specialised equipment and skills.
Are there any aluminium smelters left in Australia? I think that if they lose power during the process and the metal hardens the plant is essentially scrap. Who would risk it here with the way our electricity generation is going?
Apart from her courage, the virtue Moira Deeming has in spades is patience. She has decided to play the long game against the wannabe-Greens trying to make the StupFrigging Liberals even more unelectable in Victoria than they are now.
The pivotal strategy is to hold the weasel Pesutto accountable IN COURT.
Thankfully, the media becomes a reluctant ally and will cover whatever she does in detail to try to embarrass the SFLs, who 99% of journalists have never voted for.
Inflation with Australian Characteristics:
At the weekend I bought a tub of butter from Coldemort, proudly marked Same Low Price.
This morning we finished the old one and opened the new for our Vegemite toast. Imagine my surprise when I noticed the new tub contained 250g, whereas the empty tub used to hold 375g.
By my rough calculation, that’s approximately a 33% contraction for the same price.
Thank God we’ve got Team Albo watching over us.
Vicki says:
May 16, 2023 at 8:24 am
Thanks for the reassurance Vicki.
No problems so far, getting older bothers me but.
Point to where I praised lockdowns.
I also never suggested that vaccines shouldn’t have only been encouraged in vulnerable cohorts rather than forced on the population at large though Diamond Princess wasn’t exactly a replica of the general population was it?.
As for deaths in non western countries, who knows what goes on there, unless you assume countries without reliable infrastructure miraculously have infallible record keeping.
And you haven’t addressed my point at all, the nonsense that those who got vaccinated in the first half of 2021 were too lazy/stupid/sheeplish to bother with ‘facts’ and ‘numbers’
True everywhere but don’t worry raising interest rates will fix it.
They reported seeing Woolies Essential sliced bread increasing from $1.90 to $2.40, Woolies wholemeal, multigrain, sandwich and toast increasing from $2.40 to $2.70, Sunblest from $3.70 to $4, TipTop One from $3.90 to $4.40 and Abbott’s Bakery varieties from $4.30 to $4.90.
?”This is the 4th, and in some cases 5th time prices have gone up in the last 2 years that I’ve been doing it,” they continued, adding they are Queensland-based.
Lately I’ve taken to watching/listening to poetry readings on youtube in the evenings. The first poem that really entered my head was ‘Tarantella’ by Hilaire Belloc, I was probably in grade three at the time and I don’t recall the teacher but she read it well and got the class to learn it. I hadn’t heard it for years when it recently came back to me, I searched for it and found a few good versions. Since then I’ve been listening to more and more poetry. I’ve never been a fan of reading poetry and finding a way to listen to a great variety of it has made life that bit better than it was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybMiod78mfo
Seeing that the mRNA Covid vax is being discussed, this article today has a lot of data:
A Colossal Failure Around The World (Colleen Huber, 15 May)
Lots of good science plus 41 scientific references. One to bookmark.
And you haven’t addressed my point at all, the nonsense that those who got vaccinated in the first half of 2021 were too lazy/stupid/sheeplish to bother with ‘facts’ and ‘numbers’
Fact: Many, many peoples jobs and livelihoods were held hostage to a government “not a mandate” making any claims about peoples motives moot.
And the vaccines failed in what was a core reason for making them population wide. They did not prevent spread.
Remember the shifting narrative from the good old days of “it will stop you getting it”… good times… good times.
I would love to know how they came up with that. Beer brewing goes back at least as far as the Sumerians. Are they just assuming that anything that involves a recipe was woman’s work? If women were making the beer it would likely have been under the instruction and to the specifications of men.
Who do you credit as the author of a delicious meal in a restaurant – the head chef who comes up with the dishes, or the drones doing the measuring and mixing under instruction?
My own suspicion is that there was no especial labour delineation – anyone could make it. Men drunk it, and I expect women did too. Possibly beer was initially a closed secret of a priest class who prepared the drink for deities in temples, but the recipe (or something like it) would have existed before they decided to dedicate it to their gods.
The most egregious sin was the mandation of an experimental medical treatment in direct contravention to the sacred principle of the right to bodily autonomy. The Nuremberg code was very clear on this and Nazi doctors were hung after the war to re-inforce this point. Mandation alone was enough for me to say NO, even if said treatment actually WAS safe and effective. Once you lose control over that most sacred piece of personal property, your body, you lose your most important personal right and the one upon which assault, rape, murder and theft are recognised to be immoral.
The second most egregious sin was the inversion of the doctors duty to provide ‘the best care for the patient’ – for the patient, not for society, not for grandma, not for some unspecified person elsewhere. This inversion flowed through into just about every other aspect of medicine as well, including
1) Forcing treatment on the well (vaccines) not the sick.
2) Denying treatment to the sick (IVM etc).
3) Requiring ‘exemptions’ (ie treatment refusals) to be issued by the state, rather than refusal being the patients personal right.
4) Making personal medical information public (show us your vax pass) rather than keeping it private….
I could go on…
Wow! Who else was doing it then, other than men? Dogs and cats?
Why don’t go to Italy and find out if covid did or didn’t cut a swathe through their elderly population.
I remember the discussions.
Italy is only second to Japan in the percentage of elderly people, many of whom live in small (by out standards) multi generational households in apartment blocks.
Medical treatments for covid were in their infancy.
Why now pretend they didn’t have significant excess deaths in 2020.
You cannot point to government death statistics in 2022 and claim them as gospel and at the same time claim those in 2020 were a pack of lies.
Italy 2020 death toll is highest since World War Two as COVID-19 hits
Mother Lodesays:
May 16, 2023 at 8:47 am
Sumerian beer recipe/prayer..
https://www.realmofhistory.com/2017/09/22/oldest-beer-recipe-mesopotamia-ninkasi/
Simply put, the first deliberate production of beer (or ale) in history can be attributed as one of the achievements of Sumerians, with the evidence of the oldest known surviving beer recipe contained within a 3900-year-old poem – Hymn to Ninkasi.
Now in terms of Mesopotamian mythology, Ninkasi was the ancient Sumerian tutelary goddess of beer (and alcohol). Symbolizing the socially important role of women in brewing and preparation of beverages in ancient Mesopotamia, the entity (whose actual depictions have not survived the rigors of time) historically also alluded to how beer consumption in itself was an important marker for societal and civilized virtues.
…
Borne of the flowing water,
Tenderly cared for by the Ninhursag,
Borne of the flowing water,
Tenderly cared for by the Ninhursag,
Having founded your town by the sacred lake,
She finished its great walls for you,
Ninkasi, having founded your town by the sacred lake,
She finished its walls for you,
Your father is Enki, Lord Nidimmud,
Your mother is Ninti, the queen of the sacred lake.
Ninkasi, your father is Enki, Lord Nidimmud,
Your mother is Ninti, the queen of the sacred lake.
You are the one who handles the dough [and] with a big shovel,
Mixing in a pit, the bappir with sweet aromatics,
Ninkasi, you are the one who handles the dough [and] with a big shovel,
Mixing in a pit, the bappir with [date] – honey,
You are the one who bakes the bappir in the big oven,
Puts in order the piles of hulled grains,
Ninkasi, you are the one who bakes the bappir in the big oven,
Puts in order the piles of hulled grains,
You are the one who waters the malt set on the ground,
The noble dogs keep away even the potentates,
Ninkasi, you are the one who waters the malt set on the ground,
The noble dogs keep away even the potentates,
You are the one who soaks the malt in a jar,
The waves rise, the waves fall.
Ninkasi, you are the one who soaks the malt in a jar,
The waves rise, the waves fall.
You are the one who spreads the cooked mash on large reed mats,
Coolness overcomes,
Ninkasi, you are the one who spreads the cooked mash on large reed mats,
Coolness overcomes,
You are the one who holds with both hands the great sweet wort,
Brewing [it] with honey [and] wine
(You the sweet wort to the vessel)
Ninkasi, (…)(You the sweet wort to the vessel)
The filtering vat, which makes a pleasant sound,
You place appropriately on a large collector vat.
Ninkasi, the filtering vat, which makes a pleasant sound,
You place appropriately on a large collector vat.
When you pour out the filtered beer of the collector vat,
It is [like] the onrush of Tigris and Euphrates.
Ninkasi, you are the one who pours out the filtered beer of the collector vat,
It is [like] the onrush of Tigris and Euphrates.
And those responsible ‘Bynged’… “pour encourager les autres”
https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Byng
“Point to where I praised lockdowns.”
You never ever did.
Wasn’t beer brewed up every day or so in pretty much all homes because it didn’t keep well and was consumed because it was safer than water?
I doubt it was considered a task with any special gender significance.
The sharing of tasks in farming families was based on practical considerations not feminist poppercockery.
Rosie, I know about Italy, too.
How about I just point to Sweden.
This will be of barely any interest to anybody, but I wish to correct something i said here. Whybrow stated that he was unable to cross-examine Higgins on her evidence that Reynolds pressured her to refrain from pursuing her (Higgins) rape allegation. I questioned the role that McCallum CJ played here. Probably none I now see. It was because Whybrow did not know, until after the trial was aborted, of Fiona Brown’s story that meant he had no basis during the trial to challenge Higgins.
Besude the point now, but could this failure of Drumgold to alert Whybrow of Brown’s story have been a basis for a retrial if Lehrmann been convicted?
The Sumerians had a goddess of beer, Ninkasi. That might be a hint. 😀
In Europe, until brewing became a commercial enterprise, it was a domestic chore of the womenfolk.
Why the lady from Miller is apologising for advertising their beer with attractive, bikini clad young women is a mystery to me.
Are bikinis illegal? Did the models have no free will in the matter? Were they not paid?
Or is this something to do with the censorious new religion of woke?
when women did different things to men and everyone whatevered
The facts and numbers at the beginning of the coof were all over the place. So called experts from every country were saying contradictory statements every day. Six months later they started getting the narrative right after being cajoled, controlled and corrupted. Just as we have the likes of Special Ed knowing what happened to Britknee the knickerless how many people will admit they were wrong. I see a lack of personal responsibility. Its not a crime to be wrong but to continue lie to yourself is dangerous unless of course you’re George Costanza and a lie is not a lie if you believe it.
Son has just leased his second Tesla that he told me was being taken off the available list. I liked it better than the first it sounded different on the road different noise however enormous screen on dash and voice instructions.
I read somewhere else that the ad is some months old but had been resurrected to Twitter to embarrass Coors who were profiting from Bud’s debacle. I would be surprised if it wasn’t a competitor.
Why point to Sweden?
They had significant excess deaths in their elderly population as well.
Not to mention a practise of denying their elderly access to hospital beds as they were reserved for the more deserving, as well as hastening elderly deaths with morphine.
Sweden failed to protect elderly in COVID pandemic, commission finds
Keep whistling past your grave, rosie. You are trying to convince yourself that getting the jab so you could travel wasn’t a really bad idea.
Time will tell.
They told us that we shouldn’t send anyone to the hospital, even if they may be 65 and have many years to live. We were told not to send them in,” says Latifa Löfvenberg, a nurse who worked in several care homes around Gävle, north of Stockholm, at the beginning of the pandemic.
By the middle of April 2020, the Diamond Princess data was out showing that there was no need to panic.
When Operation Warp Speed was announced it was pointed out that all prior attempts to produce a safe and effective corona virus vaccine were abject failures. As is the current deception.
Maybe if they had her brewing beer the ratings would’ve been better.
Woke Fail: Netflix’s ‘Queen Cleopatra’ Appears to Have Worst Audience Score in TV History (15 May)
One percent on Rotten Tomatoes? LOL. This is the one where a black lady was unhistorically cast as Cleopatra. I don’t know what else made the audience hate it so much but I suspect it was a shocker as a story as well as being woke.
Greenies are not the sharpest tools in the kit, they confuse re-use, which requires no extra energy input, with recycle which can use more energy to recycle than to create anew.
The greens didn’t want to be the only ignorant idiots so they dumbed down entire generations of school children with the help of conservative governments. Wasn’t it Abbott who promised to review the national curriculum and yet nothing happened? I know, Malcolm and ScoMo happened and our luck ran out.
I didn’t get the jab to travel (that was a bonus) and as for predicting who will die and when I wouldn’t be so crass and stupid.
Say it ain’t so.
Alphabet people aren’t welcome everywhere.
If I were him I’d be dusting off the old shingle.
Opinion piece in the Canberra Times today, it’s paywalled.
I’m hoping, even in the uberprogressive ACT this isn’t a government cakewalk.
Jeremy Hanson | ACT government Calvary hospital takeover creates precedent for further takeovers
Rosie you are right, it was not a replica of the general population. If it had been the mortality rates of older people would have been even greater when compared to younger generations.
What’s happening with Drumgold is just more evidence that the ACT government is a glorified town council with way too much power and the calibre of progressive public servants you should therefore expect.
The most egregious sin was the mandation of an experimental medical treatment in direct contravention to the sacred principle of the right to bodily autonomy.
Everything else is a cherry on the turd cake of THIS.
“Society” was treated as though it had the mental capacity of Maddy McMadpants fingerpainting his poo on the asylum walls and must be forced to take medicine.
“I read somewhere else that the ad is some months old but had been resurrected to Twitter to embarrass Coors who were profiting from Bud’s debacle. I would be surprised if it wasn’t a competitor.”
Thanks for that Crossie. I haven’t had a chance to catch up with my scouring the net for interesting tidbits. 😀
I know you didn’t get vaxxed to “travel” Rosie. I can make an edumacated guess as to why you were keen, and it’s for the same reason as many…many of my friends. It had nothing to do with mandates at all.
Sadly the Struggle Sessions continue, with or without the Master of Ceremonies.
My contention is that had we been allowed to use available medications to treat the disease there may never have been a reason to force the vaccines on everyone. We had to be convinced or bludgeoned into believing that it’s vaccines or death, that there was nothing else.
Certainly not at my home, poofters and kiddy fiddlers are banned. Warned off once, given the base ball bat the next time.
Exactly.
If it was so important, so crucial that people have these vaxes, why are we still not under the mandates nationwide?
Answer: The vaccines were the “get out of jail free” card for the politicians and bureaucrats who so thoroughly screwed this up. Mater highlighted this in late 2020. (From memory)
As my triple jabbed teacher wife said “ If I had a choice I’d wouldn’t have had any covid vaccinations”
I’m sorry I don’t understand what it is you are claiming.
One of the problems with the cruise ships is people make very odd assumptions about the virus reproduction rate, as though quarantining people to their cabins were no different to mass mingling at buffets.
What’s the argument? That the old and frail are more likely to die of covid.
Yes, no-one has claimed anything else have they?
I’m not seeing anything to contradict the effectiveness of the vaccines in preventing hospitalisation and death in vulnerable cohorts.
And sorry no I’m not buying your ivermectin. I’ve always said take as much as you want though.
I prefer a vaccine as the first line of defence then if necessary whatever the mainstream medical profession recommends.
When push comes to shove I suspect everyone heads there no matter what they might otherwise claim.
I prefer a vaccine as the first line of defence then if necessary whatever the mainstream medical profession recommends.
Shame no-one got the choose then eh?
How would you feel if the government mandated ivermectin as the only treatment, and banned vaccines, while the manufacturers of the product were allowed free reign to provide the only “peer reviewed” (by themselves) data allowed?
And big censorship did its best to deplatform and denigrate anyone saying vaccination might be a valuable tool to assist.
Mrs Mengeles complains:
they are so lazy in fact … that they won’t even test +ve and die when she needs them to
Facts and numbers were available in mid H1 2021 for those who wanted them.
Systematic large scale data in the UK was confirming that the vaccines conferred statistically significant protection against hospitalisation and death on the elderly – and SFA for anyone under ~60.
It was also becoming clear that vaccination did not do much of anything to reduce transmission in the population – which should have surprised nobody.
At that point, the entire public health policy argument (such as it was) for mandatory vaccination had come adrift from any connection with science.
I personally made use of this information to accept the AZ vaccine – mainly because I had to travel to the UK and, being just inside COVID’s hitting zone, preferred not to trust the NHS* in the not unlikely event I caught a dose.
Obviously, with the power of hindsight and Trusted Bloggers, I was an innumerate sheeple, COW, and slave to Klaus Schwab.
* Having already seen the NHS mismanage an elderly family member to an unnecessary death, while hugging each other on TikTok.
Because government focus groups said no one believes the general population is at risk from covid any more and mandates and lockdowns became political poison in the lead up to state and federal elections in 2022?
Push came to shove pretty quickly for most folk.
Hence the lingering anger.
I get that Roger, it’s the ones who fairly easily avoided the shove that seem to carry on the most around here though.
Thanks, Bruce.
Bring Back Communism.
BBC: ‘What would a flying-free world look like?’ ‘Fresh fruits & veggies…would disappear from supermarkets in winter’ – ‘Huge adjustments’ in ‘supply chains’ – ‘It’s about when — not if’ (15 May)
I can’t do it justice with an excerpt, the whole thing is so off the planet bonkers. I read most of it in a sort of miasma of amazement. There’s very little in it that is real or scientifically correct, but it goes on and on and on like some sort of religious tome. These people are literally insane.
Doubts cast over timing of hospital takeover plan
16 May 2023
The ACT Government has said it will be in full ownership and control of Calvary Public Hospital Bruce by July 3, but experts in project management have cast doubt on this timeframe.
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The legal status of the hospital would have to change. It is a not-for-profit private organisation run by a Catholic charity but would become, in effect, a nationalised enterprise.
Meanwhile, the campaign against the takeover continues to ramp up. There had been 3000 signatories to the “Save Calvary” petition by noon on Sunday, the campaign organiser said.
“The response has been huge,” Fr Tony Percy said.
That is all very well, but what does David Koch, the laughing clowns on Das Projekt, and Hollywood say? What about Dan Andrews?
it’s the ones who fairly easily avoided the shove that seem to carry on the most around here though.
I didnt.
I had to choose between quitting my job, and (being a medic/mining chap) being blackballed from any other position with my qualifications.
I took the shit shot and had a shingles like outbreak shortly after as well as a short term spike in BP (180/110) for a few days.
Ive since had a second dose of semi-shingles.
I find it grossly offensive that you continue to come here and witter on about how wonderful the vaccines were.
It didn’t cost me anything but a few outings to restaurants, which is why I don’t feel entitled to make a virtue out of my status. When I ask previously vaccinated family and friends why they aren’t taking up the boosters a lot of scepticism about the government response is expressed. If these are “sheeple”, they are once bitten twice shy sheeple.
I remember seeing a youtube clip where some guy was trying to re-create beers by such older recipes. Very different to now, but back then they selected different additives to make the different flavours they were after – then they would all sit around a common pot of beer and drink through very long straws.
ScoMo proving harder to get rid of than a bag of Christmas prawn heads. Unsurprisingly. Even Lara Bingle won’t take his calls.
I see someone’s having fun with my comments again.
Knock yourself out. It means I’m right.
If the story was true rather than merely plausible, why would UKR MOD post obvious nonsense as this?
The Anchor brewery in San Francisco (producers of the renowend “steam beer”, a hybrid between an ale and a lager) used the information in the hymn to Ninkasi to replciate a Sumerian ale. They used dates instead of hops, which didn’t come into beer as a bittering agent until much later in Europe. The result was said to be like a sweetly flavoured champagne.
I note a return to COVID recriminations in this august blog.
Why bother? You can’t change the past… we have all learnt valuable lessons.
We’ll be better prepared next time.. for THERE WILL BE a next time.
As for still going on about the last psy-ops.. wake me up when the f@ckers responsible are lining up for the guillotine.
I’d say the same of my sister, Vicki, who still holds to the keep-vaxxing line. A little less enthusiastically than before, so perhaps something of the ennui at least is sinking in.
I was always rather skeptical, taking my chances with travel to the US and boarding a cruise to the Panama in March 2020 (only to get kicked off in Mexico due to Covid panic alone, no Covid on board). We continued on through America after that to visit my 99 year old Aunt in Louisiana, which I am glad about now, because she died (of old age) just before her planned centenary. We only returned to Australia because ScoMo issued a deadline for return and were the last few allowed home quarantine.
I also signed, using my qualification in epidemiology, the Great Barrington Declaration in 2020.
All of that said, people are still dying of Covid. Rosie’s links are correct there, it is still part (but not all) of excess mortality. It’s become like ‘flu, a peril for the frail elderly, for whom the vaxx may still be useful. Personally, I will still have an old-style ‘flu vaxx, but no more Covid vaxxes, as I mistrust them all due to risks of cardiovascular events. I had two AZ’s with no problems and one booster Novavax, which gave me a notably thumping heart for a couple of days two weeks after the jab. Checked it out and no damage done, but it is unpleasant at the time. I have also had Covid in 2022 in Sydney, so rely now on natural immunity to a circulating virus, hopefully keeping that immunity up by symptomless reinfection, as when Hairy, breathing all over me, had mild Covid for the second time a month or so ago. Probably I could do similar for the ‘flu, but that vaxx doesn’t worry me. Also, ‘flu does change very rapidly in its wild form in Asian birds and it has solid history as an extreme pandemic nasty.
Perhaps it’s just luck, or good genes and nutrition, but I’ve kept well during three six week periods in the US and Europe in the past year and will be taking another 6 weeks in September, plus we have had, and will continue with, other short-term o/s travels too, Cook Islands late last year and High Tea in the Malaysian highlands, reprising British Colonialism, coming up in June. Life is for living.
The best recycling racket was the Karen established soft plastic recycling jumped on by Colesworths. The liquidator presently clearing out warehouses of baled rubbish off to landfill. It has no commercial value. At best, properly sorted, it could be burnt, although I’m not sure if that is worthwhile.
Comments aren’t terribly supportive..
To heat water in a boiler…to produce steam…to drive a turbine…to produce…energy!
There must be a government grant available to do a feasability study on this.
rosie, you do seem to pretty frequently ‘carry on’ about it.
way to blast your own rhetoric.
you go grrl
your numbers, and not just for the lack thereof,
but for their dodgy quality, are quite simply big fat averages
how you could diagnose the average non-vaxxer’s laziness from them, but not you own
beggars belief
“no evidence of electoral fraud”
How can anyone assert this with a straight face when it is proven that ’51 intelligence agents’ deliberately and knowingly lied to favour Biden’s election?
Possibly. But the deity that ruled writing and accounting was also female. Scribes were men.
I wonder if she had an earlier association with water and reeds and, when cuneiform was invented (the writing system based on pressing reeds into clay) it was thus extended to her.
I must admit I always thought of the Sumerians drinking mead – but that was the fault of Paco and wronwright at the old Blair’s.
That sounds familiar.
And interesting, dammit.
Since both Bud Light and Miller Light are on the nose, could be time for a comeback.
“As satisfying as the day you invented the wheel!”
‘Doom loop’ is a phrase getting increasing usage.
A San Francisco Journalist Wanted to Debunk Horror Stories About Her City. She Got Kinda Sidetracked by the Truth (13 May)
Being repeated everywhere where the Left is in control. The most interesting thing is the cause of the collapse stems from the Covid lockdowns. Workers got the excuse to work from home rather than to come into the office. So they did. And still are. Nothing that management has tried has worked to get them to return to the office. And they’re all terrified that if they bring the hammer down the wukkas will walk. Which they will.
So all those people are no longer buying lunch from cafes, or staying back after work with colleagues at bars. Add the crazy defund police stuff the Left pushed and the streets are getting more and more dangerous too.
First time I ever visited LA was in 1992, I wanted to have a look at the CBD. The subcontinental cabbie was quite concerned about this and tried to dissuade me. Fortunately all was fine, but if that was the vibe ‘way back in the early nineties the early twenty twenties must be a nightmare.
Seeding in the Eastern Wheatbelt of Western Australia…vehicle breakdown….the local dealer closed until Thursday, citing “staff shortages….”….
Black Cleopatra disagrees!
I see that the Australian government now recognises the cardiac risks associated with Covid vaxxes.
Dover.
I’ve just emailed a post submission.
From the lady cricketer:
I just don’t understand why this one day of the year – which is a day of mourning, which doesn’t have a very good history of what happened on that day – that there needs to be cricket.
Easy dear – would you prefer to still be living the tribal life, or the one that set in motion the planting and growth of modernity on these shores?
Maybe, on the balance, even for you it was a good thing. (I would say overwhelmingly but, meh, I say potato, you say victim…)
Rosie I know you have never been in favour or in any way supportive of lockdowns. My reference to that was in response to your comment re the WA border opening which is tacitly claiming the lockdowns worked.
And as for this comment;
A lot of the most vocal lost quite a lot because they weren’t willing to accept a “whatever it takes” to end lockdowns attitude.
Rosie I think you are being disingenuous in calling the Coof vaccine a vaccine. It is nothing like a vaccine. Continue to fool yourself but please do it in private. I don’t blame anyone for taking the stuff. Fear does crazy things. For me it was never a pandemic as the world didn’t grind to a halt rapidly, vulnerable people were not protected and the elite carried on as before. Absurd rules made up and contradictions were something out of Monty Python.
I think the real problem is PVC, which can produce small amounts of dioxin. Not easy to sort it out of the other plastic. Combustion can be done such that dioxin isn’t produced but I gather that is more expensive.
Of course the other aspect is that bedwetters don’t like combustion of anything because of their fetish about CO2. Oddly they never panic about them breathing out 4% CO2 when they exhale. That’s 100 times the concentration in our dying planet’s atmosphere. You’d think they’d do the right thing…
Ask dot, Dover.
Well done Sam Kerr. Watched by 70,000 fans apparently. Here are the ticket prices for top shelf wymmins soccer
And here are the ticket prices for second tier men’ soccer
Equal pay, I say!
No we haven’t. We haven’t learnt a damn thing.
The people responsible for the obscenity are still responsible and are more or less still in their responsible positions.
On a personal level though, I have certainly learnt who in our small community to be extremely wary of.
Next time will be worse.
While material losses from the covidiocy (which now seems an overly tame term) can be measured, it would be difficult to compare the psychological and emotional losses/damage incurred, as each individual has differing personal histories, support networks, levels of resilience, etc.
I noted a few days ago, that while my own losses were not as severe as some others (I haven’t lost a business, for example), having not a lot to begin with, virtually no-one in terms of family, and pre-existing mental health challenges, has reduced my quality of life dramatically. This will sound quite airy-fairy, but it is impossible to even find the words to describe how much I have changed internally, and the fear I have that anxiety-related damage has reduced my lifespan by at least five years. I’m doing my best to focus on the day-to-day, and hoping to brush away the unquantifiable anger that is urgently trying to spray from every pore.
(I hadn’t planned to make this comment about me, but … there you go).
My own suspicion is that there was no especial labour delineation – anyone could make it. Men drunk it, and I expect women did too. Possibly beer was initially a closed secret of a priest class who prepared the drink for deities in temples, but the recipe (or something like it) would have existed before they decided to dedicate it to their gods.
That’s a load of cock, like everything else you write.
Women ran the Alehouses in Sumeria, drinking was on credit, paid at harvest time.
If the harvest failed for any reason, debts were cancelled.
Women caught padding the Bill were drowned in a barrel of beer.
Women used to own plenty of Pubs in Queensland, the Norman Hotel in the Gabba was one of them.
There is a difference between a lesson observed, and a lesson learned.
What is that difference?
mem and the gang out rat hunting.
Crossie:
That’s the point of it Crossie – to create dissention .
I’ve been called an “anti-vaxxer” by acquaintances, but I never was against vaccines in the past.
When covid was first mentioned, I dismissed it as another media beat-up, another nothing burger like SARS or swine flu or ebola. Something the media tried to frighten us with, but turned out to be insignificant.
I only became an “anti-vaxxer” when they claimed a vaccine would be available in 12 months or so.
Anyone with two brain cells knows that vaccines take 5 years to pass proper trials.
What saddens me is why so many millions were so easily panicked?
One of the most disillusioning things in the last few years was the realisation that million of Aussies are watching TV every day and believing what they’re told.
Why is anyone watching TV at all?
132andBush says:
May 16, 2023 at 10:50 am
No we haven’t. We haven’t learnt a damn thing.
The sheeples (Hi Johanna..) maybe haven’t, but most, if not all, independent thinkers have.
The people responsible for the obscenity are still responsible and are more or less still in their responsible positions.
Yes, hence my allusion to “La Veuve” and not bothering.
As there has been no physical push-back to this travesty, we shouldn’t hold our breath for just retribution.. yet.
On a personal level though, I have certainly learnt who in our small community to be extremely wary of.
A silver lining, after all.
Next time will be worse.
100%
Michael Smith has a post up citing Peter FitzSimons views on nuclear power. The responses are telling. I even my dibs worth. Here https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/05/nuclear-scientist-pirate-peter-fitzsimons-repeats-labors-talking-points-.html#comment-6a0177444b0c2e970d02b751809a64200b
local oafsays:
May 16, 2023 at 11:04 am
I’ve been called an “anti-vaxxer” by acquaintances, but I never was against vaccines in the past.
I did my own risk assessment on the Jabs –
1. New vaccine methodology
2. Developed at ‘Warp Speed’
3. Minimal testing
4. Being pushed on us by every man and his dog.
Risk assessment – NAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
local oaf:
When there is only one loud, repetitive narrative, your choices are to believe that, or nothing at all. Believing nothing, about everything, would I think, be remarkably difficult for a human.
In other words, when there is no effective, contrasting narrative, you believe the only information you are exposed to.
As I’ve rambled recently: This is a competition for influence. There are no participation trophies.
rosiesays:
May 16, 2023 at 9:11 am
I didn’t get the jab to travel (that was a bonus) and as for predicting who will die and when I wouldn’t be so crass and stupid.
You were brainwashed and easily manipulated by Big-Pharma and the media. Most of my family falls into that category.
I distinctively remember you linking to heaps of Big-Pharma sponsored news outlets at the beginning of this plandemic … heck, you even linked to Facebook fact checkers FFS. Facebook at the start of this mess were censoring people galore; medical professionals and the average joe were in their crosshairs, all because they questioned the narrative.
I note you linked to the BBC ( Bill Gates pumped millions into them – no conflict of interest there ) above. They didn’t mention the average age of those that passed in Sweden was 86 and the death rate was lower than previous flu seasons h/t Dr Vernon Coleman.*
* We’re Fighting for Our Lives 11th September 2020
As for the senior deaths rates in general with covid, it was hospital protocols that did the damage. Remdesivir and Midazolam + ventilators = death.
As for this sh*t…
The laziness is in those that didn’t get vaxxed contining to pretend they are somehow intellectually superior and pointing at preposterous nonsense from ‘trusted bloggers’ as proof of their superiority, or merely asserting it.
Laziness! WTF?
All my sources, all, turned out to be correct and no, I certainly didn’t feel superior over anyone else.
I do ask myself what was the moment in history that made me go f*ck that to the jabs? It was finding out about Event 201 and learning that the patents for the mRNA jabs were in place long before the sh*t show started. Operation Warp Speed when announced was total BS! Trump was duped.
It was Amazing Polly, American Vagabond primarily that piqued my curiosity ( they did a brilliant job in exposing all the players ) and then discovering Dr Vernon Coleman around Jan 2020. Then they were all censored which is a big tell that they were onto something. The following months after I discovered even more truth tellers.
I’m still amazed people are still calling these shots “vaccines”. They are nothing of the sort. Anyone suggesting they helped stave off illness as of 2023 with all the information on the table is 100% full of sh*t. Bio-Weapon is more accurate ( Moderna’s own paper work filings confirm that ) which if legal eagles get their act together, it would mean the EUA ( Emergency Use Authorization ) is null and void and a potential to sue Pfizer and Moderna etc into the ground becomes a good possibility? It’s a wait and see with that.
And Ed was there!
One of my favourite SFs is The Time Masters, which works from the idea that very long lived humans crashed on Earth during the Paleolithic. The main character gave rise to the Gilgamesh epic, and his ex-wife the Manhattan Project, which is the setting for the novel. It’s entertaining, and I think provided inspiration to the Highlander fillum, since there’s a hat tip in it.
I note a return to COVID recriminations in this august blog
Yep Gilas, I’ll plead guilty to that. By association.
Dover, maybe it’s time for a reset guest post?
Something arts n culture maybe? *ahem*
Never choose the beef chow mein in Rangoon.
When You Absolutely OWN CNN….
Doc Beaugan:
Well said.
Gilas, for the most part I agree with you and Bushie, the Covid era is one where carefully thought out public health pandemic plans that excluded lockdowns were ditched, vaccines were authorised and rolled out with improper testing, and a sort of madness reigned, whipped up by political fervor and misinformation.
It should not happen again, but it could. I agree there too. However, many are now forewarned.
I’d like to add that people here saying things like ‘continue to fool yourself but please do it in private’ to Rosie are against the spirit of this blog. Rosie should be allowed to state her case, which is in general a moderating one, calling for interpretive caution. Besides, here is a definition of a vaccine:
The Covid spike protein is a ‘constituent’ and fulfills the case. The mRNA platform may not. But as with Novavax, non mRNA, it is the spike protein that is the problem. The Covid vaxxes were not fit for purpose and in any less frantic context they would have been ditched due to untenable levels of side-effects, as was the Swine Flu vaccine and many others in history.
Learning it means you don’t have to observe it again.
I should also add that possibly without the Covid vaccines more elderly people would have died, for that is the cost of epidemics, deaths do occur as the ‘epidemic curve’ moves through a population. But eventually, as we have seen, and in not too long a time period, a circulating and constantly changing virus would have become integrated into the general level of population herd immunity, especially as the virus diminished, as they usually do, in virulence. Other ways of keeping the elderly safe could also have emerged (see the Barrington Declaration).
I am sick of discussing Covid here, and mostly try to avoid it, but I guess we have to reinforce the lessons we should take from it.
Is that the rejigged definition of vaccine, Lizzie?
Who doesn’t enjoy a cold ale under a Sumerian jacaranda?
More Covid analysis, in this instance from a psychological perspective.
Psychologist Breaks Down How Society Descended Into COVID Insanity (13 May)
Belgian clinical psychologist Mattias Desmet recently appeared on Jimmy Dore’s online show to break down, with impressive detail, the step-by-step process by which a whole swath of the Western population — the so-called “Branch COVIDians” — was shepherded into COVID-19 hysteria.
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[He] went on to explain that, having met this first condition, the population is afflicted with what he calls “free-floating” anxiety and aggression, by which he means anxiety that does not have a clearly identifiable source. There is nothing in the environment to attach the anxiety to and therefore no obvious solution to remedy it.
That’s when demagogues with a narrative to push — who, in the context of COVID in the West, also happened to enjoy an iron-clad grip on the corporate media — seize on this anxiety to present those suffering with something, or someone, to blame. Those people then seize on the opportunity to, they hope, soothe their anxiety by neutralizing the enemy — which, in this case, was both the virus itself (which justified lockdowns and vax mandates) and anyone who resisted the lockdowns — their fellow countrymen.
The COVIDians found community — something they longed for but had not found in their meaningless jobs or on Twitter or wherever they had been looking — in banding together to defeat the unvaccinated. In this way, otherwise rational human beings — particularly liberal women, who are statistically the most negatively affected by the modern techno-dystopia — are turned into vicious, rabid animals willing to condone the most inhumane treatment of their enemies, weaponized cynically by the social engineers as they are unleashed on the public.
At this point I should probably don my asbestos undies and flee. But the gender differences in response to this societal challenge, and the governmental lies, do seem to be significant. I’ve mentioned before how I was booted out by my hairdresser – a blonde in her mid-twenties. She said on the phone when she cancelled my appointment that lil’ ole unvaccinated me would be bad for her business. It was clear that she was terrified.
Says he drilling grain into rapidly drying paddocks with a forecast ElNino in spring. :/
They weren’t called “Karens” for nothing, Bruce. Still a few about.
Yes, that was my interpretation too.
Observation (of lesson) + Action (to prevent or manage the consequences of, a recurrence) = Lesson Learned.
(Yes, I am playing with semantics, but I think defining the difference is important. Thinking or conversing about something is NOT the same as planning and execution. It is a complex issue, but the answer is not to hug ourselves tighter within our security blanket. Sooner or later, the fleas will completely consume our blanket and leave nothing between us and the cold).
Well said, Muddy, at 11.13.
It’s good to have you back.
Read the reviews at IMDB.
People who are interested in ancient history are furious that it is described as a ‘documentary’ because it is chockers with errors on subjects that are easily checkable. The costumes, props, makeup and account of the history – all wrong.
The Roman men – Caesar and Antony – are depicted as uncharismatic weaklings. Unlikely, to say the least.
Quite a lot of the reviewers are less concerned about the use of a black actress (although it doesn’t help, given that it’s meant to be factual) than they are about the travesty of history.
Then there are the repeated critiques of both the script and the acting. Words like ‘wooden’ and ‘clunky’ pop up again and again.
It’s a real stinker.
Thanks, Lizzie.
Being a history nerd, I do enjoy your historical bits when you post them.
Hehe, Johanna, that’s hilarious. I enjoyed reading Gibbon’s accounts of Mr Anthony and Mr Caesar in their encounter with the good lady. Neither I would regard as weaklings. She must’ve been very high on the hot-and-crazy matrix. Plus intelligent, politically nousful and also lucky, at least until she chose the wrong side at the end. Mark Antony was pretty hot too though, so she can be forgiven for that.
Really sad that history docos these days seem to have nothing to do with actual history. It’s very Orwellian. Did I mention that even Willy Wonka is now woke?
Woke Willy Wonka: Gender Swaps in Stage Production of Roald Dahl Classic (15 May)
Next time will be worse.
Why I don’t live in Australia anymore.
In the primary location they can’t afford to f’ck with people too much or they’ll leave. First round they went all Australia but only briefly.
In the secondary location people got very close to not being able to feed themselves. They won’t be accepting this shit again.
I’ve studied epidemics in historical context, and the picture is not pretty. One hopes that modern nutrition could halt some of the extreme death rates observed, but that is just a hope. Pathogens have always managed to conquer until they dissipate under the constant fire of the human immune systems. As Matt Ridley suggests, it’s a Red Queen dance and we may be barely keeping up.
Where a bacillus is suspected, one carried by a vector such as a rat, or an insect or bat carried virus is suspect, then living conditions can be significant to the death rates. For historic plagues, there is always debate as to the causative agent. Some, like the Black Death of the 14th century, similar to the Plague of Justinian in the sixth century, live on in historic memory, but so many others don’t.
Who’s heard these days of the Plague of Cyprian which raged for throughout the Mediterranean for years in the middle of the third century, where 5000 day at its height were said to have died in Rome with whole cities and towns devastated throughout the trading region? That is now thought to have been what epidemiologists still fear today – a major outbreak of a viral haemorrhagic fever like Ebola. So many plagues scatter history and have affected it. We need to remain alert for new pathogens and for escape of some we already know about. And vaccines do have a place in our responses.
Mr Russell wore a suit to court…what do they expect of a former officer and gentleman?
Apologies for the excess posting this morning, but I’m procrastinating, which is by nature, a repetitive process.
Regarding the race-swapping in films over the past few years (not that I’ve been near a cinema in about six): I’m ambivalent. If the story is engaging, the acting believable, and I can identify with the protagonist, the skin colour of said protagonist (in fiction, of course), is irrelevant to me.
It is understandable when remakes are the subject, that people for whom the original film/s formed part of their childhood, would feel miffed that their memories are being tampered with (*Cough* Star Wars *Cough*), but such is the nature of the ownership of intellectual property.
Human story telling is one of the features that differentiate us from other species, and inherent in that value is the ability to morph over time.
Which is why I’d like to nominate a pre-woke Dalek for leadership of the Federal Liberal Party.
It’s a wait and see scenario with Linda Yaccarino as the new CEO of Twitter. Did Musk screw up?
We’ll know very quickly if he did.
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Stew Peters Show:
Will freedom of speech on Twitter be abolished?
Simon Ateba, senior White House correspondent for Today News Africa, is back again to talk about Twitter’s new World Economic Forum backed CEO.
Elon Musk has hired World Economic Forum Executive Chair Linda Yaccarino as the new CEO of Twitter.
Yaccarino believes outlets like CNN and NBC are trusted news sources.
Klaus Schwab’s WEF believes that whoever controls technology will control the world.
Elon Musk’s vision for Twitter is to turn it into “X”, a technology app that meets virtually all societal needs.
Will Elon Musk retain control and continue allowing free speech on Twitter, or will Yaccarino be allowed to censor and reshape the platform for woke advertisers?
WEF To End FREE SPEECH On TWITTER? Elon Musk’s New CEO Is WOKE World Economic Forum GLOBALIST
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
May 16, 2023 at 11:29 am
It should not happen again, but it could. I agree there too. However, many are now forewarned.
Yes. Dredging this up among like-minded people on this blog doesn’t add to what we already know. It just increases adrenaline levels and resentment, to no one’s benefit.
Devising an effective strategy for the early detection and slaying of the next outrage would be far more useful, even while herding cats..
Any ideas?
How to make botanic gardens more popular.
D.C. House delegate asks US Botanic Garden, on Capitol Hill grounds, to feature marijuana (15 May)
Maybe that will overcome the recent finding that botanic gardens are destroying the planet.
Egypt is a funny old place because of how few genuine Egyptians actually ran the place.
Also, before they ask the French for all their stuff back, Egyptians should thank that Napoleon fellow for at least some of the stuff he did.
“Trump and the Republicans were warned early in 2020 there’d be major fraud. They did nothing. “
Not true – they tried, and had the case tossed out due to “lack of standing”.
Courts said “You haven’t been harmed yet – come back when you are.”
So they did come back after and got told:
1) “About rules – too late, you should have complained before the election.”
2) “About results – you have no standing, you’re not a voter.”
It seems the courts didn’t want to be involved – and I don’t really blame them. No matter what they decided, they would be hauled over the coals by one side or the other. So find a reason NOT to rule – or to at least push it to a time when the outcome of the case doesn’t affect the “current” election, only later ones.
Finally, a win for the battlers.
The Albanese government is offering public sector workers a 10.5 per cent wage rise over three years: 4 per cent in the first year, 3.5 per cent in the second year and 3 per cent in the third year.
Developing a useful political party that can put forward a calming message to various doomsayers in the media would be a very good idea. Also, having a number of news outlets that would not fall prey to any leftie fear-mongering is also necessary, all the more so because the current ‘plague’ we are experiencing is a psychological one. It is called ‘climate hysteria’. It needs major population debunking, a hard task but one to which we can all contribute. We may soon be assisted by some very concrete evidence that the ‘remedies’ for fixing this ‘plague’ are far, far worse than any threat it purports to have upon human life and health. We need to treat this plague at source, by excising the CO2 hypothesis from our mental memes, by showing it to be spurious, unproven and a beat up.
There is a steady stream of stories in the MSM, especially at TheirABC, about more people using charities to get free food. They always say that the charities are seeing people who have never used them before.
The implication is that people are in danger of starving.
But, a bit of basic analysis is required here.
Firstly, it stands to reason that charities see people who have never used them before. As long as I have been able to read, charities say this as if it means something other than that people’s circumstances sometimes change for the worse, and they need help.
Second, nobody in this country ever needs to go hungry. There are numerous charities, government programs, churches etc that supply free food.
There are not a lot of charities that provide free rent or mortgage payments, or free electricity or gas – you get the idea. Of course people who are strapped for cash will start by cutting down on expenses by approaching sources of free food, the one thing that is easily obtainable.
But, food is not by any means the largest expense for most people, thankfully we live in a country where good food is relatively cheap.
All those tearjerking stories about people living on ramen noodles or whatever disguise the fact that what is making them poor is the cost of shelter and energy. Remember that the next time you read one of those stories, because one thing is for sure, they will keep coming.
Gilas:
Start by acknowledging that a reactive/defensive posture will always place us one step (and one media cycle) behind.
(1). An accusation is made against ‘us.’
(2). We deny it.
(3). We ‘fact check’ it, but the majority of the media has moved on, and only right leaning outlets will carry our ‘fact check.’
(4). Return to (1).
If have/had a sibling, think back to childhood: What was your parent/s reaction when your sibling (rightly or wrongly, it doesn’t matter) accused you of something? Think of an ex-partner in adulthood, who LOVED arguing; They ALWAYS initiated the argument, didn’t they?
The answer is to gain and maintain the initiative.
Yes, that’s overly simplistic, but that is where we need to start, because repeatedly saying “No I didn’t!” hasn’t been getting us very far.