Open Thread – Tues 30 May 2023


A Bar at the Folie-Bergère, Edouard Manet, 1882

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feelthebern
feelthebern
June 2, 2023 8:25 pm

Payroll tax is such a stupid tax.

Dot
Dot
June 2, 2023 8:28 pm

and, as such, exactly depend on circumstances

You, therefore, are only as good as you perceive the world allows you to be.

shatterzzz
June 2, 2023 8:28 pm

If it isn’t already up .. then here it is .. PLEASE EXPLAIN …..!

https://youtu.be/BMKB2zHv89M

P
P
June 2, 2023 8:29 pm

The Ben Roberts-Smith decision explained: Why he won’t go to jail and isn’t ‘legally’ a war criminal… and why Nine wasn’t as confident of winning as their jubilant coverage now suggests

Ben Roberts-Smith is being called a war criminal who murdered prisoners while serving with the SAS in Afghanistan after a judge dismissed his defamation claim.

But he has not been charged with any offence – let alone convicted of one – and may yet appeal against the findings Justice Anthony Besanko made in the Federal Court.

When Justice Besanko dismissed Roberts-Smith’s action against Nine newspapers on Thursday he delivered only a five-page summary of his findings.

Nine, which spent an estimated $15 million fighting Australia’s most decorated living soldier for the past five years, has understandably been gloating in its victory coverage.

But a source close to the publisher said Nine executives had considered the case could go either way and were anxious right up until Justice Besanko released his findings.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
June 2, 2023 8:29 pm

Rabz

World Party first song I heard of theirs was “world party”
Really melodicwith orchestration.
It begins “ I can hear the music comming from the trees”
Chorus “ world party”
It have never able to find it.
Help me out if you can came out in the later70s for memory.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 2, 2023 8:30 pm

Yes I agree. Payroll tax is very dirty and sneaky too. Taxing your employer for employing you. So there’s PAYG which you never see and another tax on top of that. I often wondered what mean little twisted mind could come up with something like payroll tax.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 2, 2023 8:31 pm

If morals are cultural, they must be established over time, just as culture is.

With reference to this, when one reads about how some native American tribes used to treat each other, I sure hope morals are cultural.
Dragging the children of the defeated tribe behind horses until they died hopefully doesn’t jump cultures.

Dot
Dot
June 2, 2023 8:31 pm

Young men

Don’t try to “impress” young women by being literal shark bait.

https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/cameron-robbins-jumped-into-shark-infested-waters-after-a-dare

He’s dead.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 2, 2023 8:36 pm

It’s incredible how some Native American tribes migrated across the continent (before the forced migration).
Also fascinating how some tribes stayed in the same area for centuries stoushing with their neighbours.
Some were peaceful.
Some were simply blood thirsty.

JC
JC
June 2, 2023 8:38 pm

Miltonf says:
June 2, 2023 at 8:23 pm

Isn’t Andrews sacking pubic servants? His core supporters I would have thought.

4,000 apparently.

Then there’s this.

Percentage of the total Victorian labour force
At June 2022, the public sector comprised: 10% of the total Victorian labour force.

There’s this too.

How many government employees are there in Victoria?
The Victorian public sector is a 300,000 strong workforce employed by the Victorian Government to provide services and support for Victorians. We are the people in 1800 different departments, agencies and organisations across Victoria who deliver services to the public.

4000/300,000 = 1.3% being fired. It doesn’t even cause a flicker.

JC
JC
June 2, 2023 8:39 pm

Some were simply blood thirsty.

Have you even read about the Comanches? They were the ISIS of the continent.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 2, 2023 8:41 pm

Having lunch with Dad today and the background music played at the establishment were songs you’ve heard hundreds of time before…maybe thousands!

Something different here.

Two Steps From Hell – Seal Of Solomon (Official Music Video)

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 2, 2023 8:42 pm

True JC but why is the dicktator sacking any at all? To keep the ratings agencies happy?

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 2, 2023 8:45 pm

Have you even read about the Comanches?

Oh yes.
Brutal.

Rabz
June 2, 2023 8:52 pm

Payroll tax is such a stupid tax

Care to enlighten us about the myriad taxes levied in human history that aren’t?

Perverse incentives and unintended consequences just might happen to be relevant.

MatrixTransform
June 2, 2023 8:52 pm

Everything it publishes now has a political purpose that has nothing to do with the public interest

Saturday’s cryptic crossword is the exception

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 2, 2023 8:53 pm

Big day in D-town. 30 degrees. Really low humidity.

The shortish sundress was out and about in the city. The less formal stuff was better. God bless backpackers.

My second compewter system still reverts to the Ubuntu page from yesterday though. May have to work through that as I wander through the Top End at its best time of year.

JC
JC
June 2, 2023 8:56 pm

Milt

I guess it’s show what a wonderful disciplined government it is. I said earlier I went out with a trader buddy last night, and although he’s off the planet with some of his ideas he is reasonably well plugged in. He told me that he’s heard that Hunchback will be leaving soon and will be doing “work” for a well known transport family which has earned a couple of bill from his “generosity”. Look, I dunno if it’s true as he’s a little off the planet, but he reckons the hunchback’s family is worth a $100 million as a result of this generosity. I don’t know about that last part but I suspect there will be or there is going to be payback.

MatrixTransform
June 2, 2023 8:58 pm

If morals are cultural, they must be established over time, just as culture is.

that’s right

but are you taking the ‘progress’ route ?
like, that morally, we proceed toward and increasingly precise moral certainty?

cos if you are, I’d simply say that you just haven’t waited long enough

Rabz
June 2, 2023 8:59 pm

Everything it publishes now has a political purpose that has nothing to do with the public interest

The Oz in a nutshell, hence their resurrecting of ex subscriber lists, much to my annoyance (again).

Or are we referring to the ALPBC, Neinfax, Channel Stokes and the even more staggeringly braindead Channel Ten, leavened with some SBS?

Crossie
Crossie
June 2, 2023 9:00 pm

calli says:
June 2, 2023 at 11:41 am
The more I read about the BRS case, the more it appears to be about revenge and jealousy.

I know I’m a bit late to this debate having been busy most of the day today. However, the BRS decisions is jealousy and revenge, pure and simple, and not just from his comrades but from our judiciary who will never have to face such dangers. The judges and magistrates may be invited to the best dinner parties but most people don’t look at them with much admiration these days whereas VC excipients still are so they must be brought down.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 2, 2023 9:00 pm

How’s your kid JC?
Hopefully got a a great Jewish doctor on the case.

Dot
Dot
June 2, 2023 9:06 pm

Darth Vader Recalls Ahsoka Tano

This is not safe for work and not for all ears.

If you liked the Ben Kenobi rant, look for it yourself.

JC
JC
June 2, 2023 9:09 pm

Bern

She told her mother that she’s had enough of docs and will only deal with it when she gets back from a holiday in Italy with her pals and boyfriend which will be a time interval of about a month. NYC to Rome is about 9 hour flight, so it will be a good test to see if she ends up with thrombosis on the problem leg. What’s the rush, right? I’m speechless and her mother is beside herself.

calli
calli
June 2, 2023 9:10 pm

we proceed toward and increasingly precise moral certainty?

I don’t think so. That would encompass the progressive “perfectibility of mankind” which to a Christian like myself is impossible without outside influence.

But my moral certainty is informed by a revelation over time. Others may think differently.

JC
JC
June 2, 2023 9:10 pm

And of course, it’s Jewish docs. 🙂

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 2, 2023 9:11 pm

Payroll tax is such a stupid tax

Care to enlighten us about the myriad taxes levied in human history that aren’t?

Tithes. Since they’re voluntary. 😀
Doesn’t seem to work with lefties.
But I like the way you think Rabz!

Surber when he had his blog at the Gazette for a long while would put up the details of the IRS account that Americans could donate directly to, if they felt like they weren’t taxed enough. It’s true! They actually have that as an option, to donate more tax to Uncle Sam. I never saw any sign of anyone actually doing it though.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 2, 2023 9:11 pm

Anyway, “Sliante” to all you hairy mob. The medical profession has a cunning plan for Mme Zulu’s treatment and recovery – it may be a matter of months, but there is a plan.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 2, 2023 9:14 pm

Bloody hell. Flying?
Insanity.

MatrixTransform
June 2, 2023 9:15 pm

But my moral certainty is informed by a revelation over time. Others may think differently.

exactly

Razey
Razey
June 2, 2023 9:16 pm

Sicktoria is proof that: Go Woke, Go Broke.

rosie
rosie
June 2, 2023 9:18 pm

$100 million?
Seems a little far fetched, unless someone could explain how Andrews and his wife could acquire shares property etc without anyone noticing something.
Rumours about Andrews and ‘you are passing’ have been around for a couple of years.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 2, 2023 9:22 pm

Oh, and the free and uncensored opinion of a couple of South Africans, farming in this district, about the new Aboriginal Heritage Act, makes interesting listening. I don’t think they like blak people…

Alamak!
Alamak!
June 2, 2023 9:22 pm

In case anybody is in doubt on Victoria being a different planet from the one we live on … I give you the Joan Kirner emerging leaders program

So bankrupting the state by spending too much borrowed $$$ and giving everything Unions ask for, and more, is the sign of Leadership in Victoria.

/sigh

Crossie
Crossie
June 2, 2023 9:25 pm

calli says:
June 2, 2023 at 1:39 pm
but he thought Mr Roberts-Smith’s name had potentially “popped up” as part of the context.
Wow! I’m convinced.

The “potentially popped up” evidence.

I used to admire Andrew Hastie but no more. He seems to be another one who resents missing out on a VC.

Rabz
June 2, 2023 9:25 pm

Work update: I’ve been recently horrified to discover that my beloved employer, blundering around into any nearby tarpit as it has been since a regrettable figurative meteorite incident*, now has a competitor.

However, the latter’s showpiece event has turned out to be all froth and no substance.

Many, many disgruntled personages will never swallow the disorganiser’s glossy gossamer again, much less willingly hand over their hard earned.

I know this because our trustee cute li’l in house sirens attended the non event and gathered much intelligence while gifting every wallee (or walleeette) within a 20 metre radius a possible sexy sideways glance (if they were lucky).

One of them reported back to me this arvo, clad like a Go Go Goil in order to maintain her impeccable cover, that our competitors are now way back behind us, trust wise.

Consequently, the week ended on a very happy note. My boss even insisted I take an early mark, which I steadfastly refused. Those mighty goils were far more deserving of it than myself. 🙂

*The election of the 32% Albansleazy goat rodeo …

JC
JC
June 2, 2023 9:26 pm

I know Rosie, that’s what I thought until he brought up Hunchback unflagging support for China and the fact that Melbourne Ports or some part of it was sold to Chinese interests (or part of) back in 16. Something smells really fishy about that deal and if he kept loot in China there’s no way would find out. But then, who knows. There’s something that just doesn’t square with that prick. He’s supposed to be the Premier of the work’en men and women. He’s great pals with the transport family and holidays at their vacation homes. He’s really friendly with China.

calli
calli
June 2, 2023 9:26 pm

Just viewing some old movietone footage. Why didn’t this catch on as a sport?

It’s a mystery.

rosie
rosie
June 2, 2023 9:29 pm

Then it would be Chinese money not passing money.
It would be extremely brazen if he has.

shatterzzz
June 2, 2023 9:30 pm

The Malmedy Massacre was known well before 1949.

The 1948 interest in the Massacre was the result of the Baldwin Committee Congressional investigation , of which Senator McCarthy was a member, arguing that most of the investigation evidence was obtained thru coercion (including physical/mental torture) and thus illegal .. the ensuing outcry thru the US media influenced the, eventual, quitting of all the death sentences and along with 95% of all the other German war crimes trials between 1946 & 1952 (by late 1952 the western Allies had lost their appetite for revenge/justice/whatever)very few of the convicted served their full sentences …..
By 1957 98% of all USA/British/French convicted German war criminals had been released ….
Reality was that if you (German) hadn’t been executed, either out of hand, field court martial or summary justice by end 1946 you had 95% odds of survival regardless of the crime …
Apart from the “showcase” that was Nuremburg most trials & sentences were along the lines of being seen to do something rather than set-in-stone sentencing ……
The western Allies very quickly realised that running post-1946 Germany needed “experienced” players .. and 90% the “experienced” players were the ones in detention … sooooooooo ..!

JC
JC
June 2, 2023 9:30 pm

Then it would be Chinese money not passing money.

Explain that.

cohenite
June 2, 2023 9:30 pm

This BRS witch hunt gets better: he and his crew were in the area looking for a green on blue afghan pig who had just shot 3 Australian SAS guys who had been training him. The 3 afghan witnesses all came from the same village as this dog and along with their extended families were paid by the nine bastards to be witnesses. None of them actually witnessed anything but heard shots.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 2, 2023 9:31 pm

Rabz – I maybe understood one word in three of your triumphant triumph, but it sounded like a fine result!

Crossie
Crossie
June 2, 2023 9:32 pm

Hugh says:
June 2, 2023 at 2:36 pm
The message is clear: if you want to brutalise civilians with impunity, join the police.

I know a family of police officers who are truly devoted to the idea of social responsibility not just of citizens but police as well. They know full well the power they wield and aim to do so fairly.

I had the pleasure several times of being a passenger in a car driven by an off duty police officer and they are the most boring and speed limit obeying drivers.

rosie
rosie
June 2, 2023 9:33 pm

Sorry for being cryptic.
You are passing another xxx is the long term slogan of a well known Victorian trucking company.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 2, 2023 9:35 pm

Cameron Stewart in the Oz is calling for BRS to be stripped of his VC. He says that a “court has found there to be substantial truth in reports that he murdered four unarmed civilians as well as other acts of criminal thuggery while serving with the SAS in Afghanistan.”

Apparently there is substantial truth and there is plain old truth. Stewart thinks that substantial truth is enough evidence for him. I haven’t seen journalism this unhinged since Cardinal Pell.

JC
JC
June 2, 2023 9:38 pm

Rosie

I have no idea what this guy was telling was true. Here’s the pinch though. Labor was dead-set against selling publicly owned assets. Then in 2016 the Hunchback decides to sell Melbourne Ports out of the blue. It doesn’t gel

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 2, 2023 9:38 pm

and along with their extended families were paid by the nine bastards to be witnesses.

What’s the doctrine that says lying to unbelievers, in the cause of Islam is all well and good?

Razey
Razey
June 2, 2023 9:40 pm

I know a family of police officers who are truly devoted to the idea of social responsibility not just of citizens but police as well. They know full well the power they wield and aim to do so fairly.

I had the pleasure several times of being a passenger in a car driven by an off duty police officer and they are the most boring and speed limit obeying drivers.

Anecdotal. On average, the pigstabulary are corrupt, brutal extensions of the Overlords.

Dot
Dot
June 2, 2023 9:41 pm

VERY INTERESTING

“Neuropharmacist”

Psilocybin Induces Long Lasting Modifications to Brain Connections

A recent study investigated the effects of psilocybin, the active ingredient in magic mushrooms, in mice and demonstrated its long lasting effects on the growth and structure of dendritic spines. The authors suggest these changes may underlie the putative rapid and sustained antidepressant effects of psychedelic drugs. In this video, I will give a brief overview of these very interesting results!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xj0wk7iH4w

Rabz
June 2, 2023 9:43 pm

BoN – it needed to be in code – there are Sydney Cats that will be to translate it.

However, I did behold Miss Anneka, clad in some black Suede Jackboots, tartan mini (with matching jacket in her handbag following her mighty march back to our office this arvo) and tight grey bleu top looking like she’d just stepped out of a psychadelic sixties clip, reporting that our self declared opposition* had just mightily beclowned themselves …

*Gloating at their peril, they did. 🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 2, 2023 9:44 pm

Apparently there is substantial truth and there is plain old truth. Stewart thinks that substantial truth is enough evidence for him.

No worries then.

‘Cameron Stewart, you are a fondler of cats because an anonymous person once saw a cat near your house, and drew an inference that the cat was in all likelihood subject to fondling from you – as feline fondling is a hot button topic at present according to some people, who will also remain anonymous.

‘You will be stripped of your journalism award/s, as well as that Under 16 Most Improved Player trophy you earned 20 years ago. Additionally, you will now be effectively unemployable.

‘Remove the prisoner.’

Do you like those apples, Cameron? Do you? Huh?

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 2, 2023 9:49 pm

I’ve certainly got the feeling that the dicktator is going to bail.

Crossie
Crossie
June 2, 2023 9:52 pm

Sorry, but I can’t agree with you – the onus is on those accusing this real, actual hero of our country. Anyone who dares accuse such a man of impropriety without overwhelming evidence deserves to pay, and pay big for what they have done. Justice is supposed to be blind, not stupid, and in my opinion this judgement is not just stupid, it is stupid beyond belief. Stupid squared. It is regrettable that such a decision is no longer surprising.

I always believed that’s how the law worked but apparently there are judges who have other ideas. This decision is not justice, it is revenge and an up-yours to people they don’t like.

rosie
rosie
June 2, 2023 9:54 pm

psilocybin

That’s what they are using in the end of life care trial at St Vincent’s in Melbourne.
Read an article a week or so ago.

Rabz
June 2, 2023 9:55 pm

Louis Litt says: June 2, 2023 at 8:29 pm

Louis – tune in for tomorrow night’s Radio show and all will be revealed.

The Wallanger is a legend. He has been involved in many mighty tunes – e.g., this one.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 2, 2023 9:57 pm

Part of the Afghanistan problem might be that the Special Forces are simply too large to be maintained at the necessary standard in a small Army.

Perhaps the solution is to reduce both SASR and 2 Commando Regiment to subunit size, and be much more selective in recruiting. Two benefits of such an approach could be higher standards in normal infantry units, that were no longer drained of their better soldiers, and constraints on future governments using the Special Forces to avoid the risk of high battlefield casualties, while ignoring the stresses placed on limited Special Forces numbers.

Rabz
June 2, 2023 10:00 pm

Psilocybin is a naturally occurring psychedelic gifted to humanitee by fungi.

Feel free to pick which one of the latter, Cats. It may just be the last choice you ever make. 😕

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 2, 2023 10:02 pm

psilocybin

That’s what they are using in the end of life care trial at St Vincent’s

Been a recent bit of work here and overseas on psilocybin for treating depression. Which is a good thing.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 2, 2023 10:04 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 2, 2023 10:08 pm

The Infidel
4 hours ago
I totally disagree Cameron. I’ve served in combat and can’t even begin to explain the absolute terror that that was. For someone to do what it takes to win a VC, and survive to receive it, is beyond comprehension for most people. I seriously doubt that I could have done what it takes. Some of the greatest military people that have ever lived, have been terrible people in the other aspects of their lives. You’re a journalist, I get that, but to bring a Western civilian perspective to this issue, as the only perspective, is fundamentally wrong. Taking his VC would probably knock the stuffing out of serving personnel – the very people we need to do the horrible and difficult things that keep us safe.

Leave it be.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 2, 2023 10:11 pm

The Australian is really up there with the Sydney Morning Vomit now.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 2, 2023 10:14 pm

I was finished with the Australian after they gave Krudd an award.

Rabz
June 2, 2023 10:16 pm

Milt – worse, as the Oz has national circulation and consequently a larger (potential) readership.

Dead tree meeja. Just hurry up and cark it, FFS …

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 2, 2023 10:20 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
June 2, 2023 10:21 pm

100% Rabz- I’m disappointed it’s still around after 25 years of the internet. Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t management ‘genius’ Hilmer have the chance to grab URLs like realestate.com.au and decided not to?

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 2, 2023 10:22 pm

Seeing those rags on sale in the morning makes me think of the living dead.

Dot
Dot
June 2, 2023 10:24 pm

The FXJ had an idea that was years ahead of its time with the F2 network.

I think it ran afoul of some dinobore law like cross-media ownership (thanks Paul!).

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 2, 2023 10:30 pm

ok- f2 seemed too little too late

Dot
Dot
June 2, 2023 10:47 pm

The new GTA graphics are too real.

I don’t think I’ll be visiting San Angeles soon.

Raw Los Angeles Streets – Episode 2

“I’ve seen these tour guides before. They stand on street corners to give directions to lost or confused tourists. It’s a real public service these young ladies are offering to the community, & they dress to impress. We need more of this spirit of volunteerism.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOfB5mC7rrI

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 2, 2023 10:47 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 2, 2023 10:49 pm

I’m punishing the single malt, I know, but I sometimes wonder if Australia deserves the likes of Ben Roberts Smith, or Keith Payne, or Percy Gratwick..lets face it, as long as their favourite soap opera was on the television, and their welfare payments went into their bank accounts, and the Greens had a profile, would any of today’s swampies care who ran the country?

Dot
Dot
June 2, 2023 10:52 pm

You can always go back to Rhodesia.

MatrixTransform
June 2, 2023 10:52 pm

Others may think differently

so what happens when 2 or more moral imperatives compete ?
an ethical dilemma.
that’s what

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 2, 2023 10:53 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Y8BbF7SI0

The immortal Bad finger – “Baby Blue.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 2, 2023 11:02 pm

Those Mongols knew how to have an away game.

So they wouldn’t have got drafted by Collingwood. Some of them still ask the Uber drivers to take them to Mascot. After checking Google Maps and ringing their cousin most drivers say they’re not allowed to drive interstate.

MatrixTransform
June 2, 2023 11:03 pm
Rabz
June 2, 2023 11:06 pm

didn’t management ‘genius’ Hilmer have the chance to grab URLs like realestate.com.au and decided not to

The sort of staggering incompetence that only our self declared betters could exhibit.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 2, 2023 11:13 pm

The Internet was a bit like the gold rush and the Wild West. For every realestate.com.au there was a dozen Pets”R”us. The safest thing was to raise a few million dollars without saying what you would do with it till the ASX put a stop to it.

Alamak!
Alamak!
June 2, 2023 11:27 pm

it’s all over now, baby blue

possibly the best version …

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 2, 2023 11:35 pm

One for the memory banks. You were somewhere when you first heard it. ( :

Demis Roussos-Forever And Ever (lyrics) HQ Audio

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

One for the memory banks. You were somewhere when you first heard it. ( :

First heard it via a link on newcatallaxy.blog at 11.35pm on the 2nd of June 2023

Rabz
June 2, 2023 11:46 pm

Demis Roussos -Forever and Eveh and Evah, again and again and again … (lyrics) HQ Audio

For when we had the misfortune to watch a video of a morbidly obese talentless greek imbecile* blundering around in a kaftan exhibiting why the seventies need to be figuratively nuked from our collective consciousness, Cats.

*has there ever been any other sort?

JC
JC
June 2, 2023 11:49 pm

Alamak! says:
June 2, 2023 at 11:27 pm

it’s all over now, baby blue

possibly the best version …

Ha, and I think Van Morrion’s version is best. I think Morrison’s has what I’ve always thought to be the best intro of any song ever. 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdb_3H-28dE

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Never mind Dennis Roosauce, I’m thinking more of Nana Mouskouri, Maria Callas, Melina Mercouri, Irene Papas, etc.

Rabz
June 2, 2023 11:53 pm

Apart from Banana Mouskouri … 😕

Alamak!
Alamak!
June 2, 2023 11:54 pm

Ha, and I think Van Morrion’s version is best

its good, like anything Van did, but for me it lacks the howling intensity of Bonnet. Dylans songs seem to draw good things from many singers and styles …

JC
JC
June 2, 2023 11:55 pm

Speaking of song versions, Amy MacDonald does Dancing in the Dark better than the Bruce. But she has an orchestra behind her. Decent looker too, which obviously helps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQGmyOgnXsQ

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 12:00 am

Dylans songs seem to draw good things from many singers and styles …

Dylan had some amazing songs, but the only problem was he couldn’t sing. He’s probably one of two singers who ended up as a conservative Republican.

Alamak!
Alamak!
June 3, 2023 12:10 am

Amy MacDonald does Dancing in the Dark

thats pretty good and full marks for trying to better a well-known classic.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 12:12 am

Dylan had some amazing songs, but the only problem was he couldn’t sing.

Hence my many previous observations on this esteemed blogue that his songs were best purveyed by other “artistes”.

Dancing in the Dark better than the Bruce

This blogue’s biggest fan of Goose Springsteen just makes it obvious (again) …

“Hey Italiano Noo Joisey Boy – I exist way out in the Hills”

“I’ll see ya, I tells ya” 🙂

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 12:14 am

We’re very used to being frightened stiff of recessions because over the recent past recessions have often meant zooming unemployment. It doesn’t have to be the case. Japan’s had several recessions since the 90s where unemployment hasn’t budged much. We could be getting there too in Europe, US but maybe not here though. Germany is in recession and the unemployment rate hasn’t moved much.

And the US will likely move into recession, but:

Payrolls rose 339,000 in May, much better than expected in resilient labor market

Not sure, but I think we’re screwed. They just raised the minimum wage today like the economy was booming. Unreal. Markets can’t be trusted with setting wages.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 12:19 am

“Hey Italiano Noo Joisey Boy

Yea, Springsteen being a common Italian name, right?

And I thought he was Jewish.

Bruce Frederick Joseph Springsteen was born at Monmouth Medical Center in Long Branch, New Jersey, on September 23, 1949.[5] He is of Dutch, Irish, and Italian descent. He grew up Catholic in Freehold, New Jersey. His mother, Adele Ann (née Zerilli; born 1925), was originally from the Bay Ridge neighborhood of Brooklyn, New York.[6]

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 12:21 am

He is an idiot when it comes to politics, Rbaz. Complete moron. I don’t why people would take artists seriously when they should be ignored.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 12:23 am

Damn Iphone.

Rabz..

..don’t know…

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 12:31 am
Rabz
June 3, 2023 12:36 am

JC – you’ll live. I was taking the piss – again.

As much as I loathe the Springsteen, he has several great songs.

Born to Run being one of them
One does not wield a Brando and a Tele lightly.

Sacred Rock and Roll icons they are.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 12:39 am

loathe

Ascré buel! 😕

Alamak!
Alamak!
June 3, 2023 1:02 am

Not sure, but I think we’re screwed. They just raised the minimum wage today like the economy was booming. Unreal. Markets can’t be trusted with setting wages.

I think the other credit shoe still has to drop and it may be in private equity & unlisted assets.

Here we have some massive rorts in the industry super funds where they outperform but only based on their own values for unlisted assets. Doubt that will come out before next election, but it could be messy for Labor and Oz if a trillion or two gets lost in super somehow.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
June 3, 2023 7:52 am

Lysander 2/6@ 3.00pm
That news piece on the Afghani who killed the Australian soldieries playing cards.
War – The Aussies are the enemy. If I am a local and they are there I am frightened of them or I hate them, I will kill them when they are at the most vulnerable.
It’s them or me or my tribe.
That article just highlights chaos of war.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 3, 2023 8:12 pm

I’ve had research for a manuscript about Col. Warfe sitting around for years, waiting for me to magically get over a writer’s block type of issue.

Muddy, I feel your pain. I have been sitting on research about the post-Roman writer Gildas, knowing that I have to say what I think about the misdating of his floruit and all that follows from that, but it is an incredibly complicated tale of datings, misdatings, and confusions over a document that is extremely confusing to start with in an historical situation that is fraught with differing opinions about what was going on.

I decided a week ago that I was going to knock some shape into it, send it to Hairy’s barrister friend in England who knows this stuff and who wants to read it, and keep it to a length suitable for a publishable article, not a book chapter, which must come later. This makes me prune it to its essence. That’s a good discipline and I suggest you try to do that same. Keep it as though you are writing for the Cat audience and don’t get above them or talk down to them or become too simplistic for them. A tough call. Eight or quarto pages maximum, even less if your material can be readily condensed. You don’t have to get every little thing in, and beware over overwriting and also of repetition.

Good luck and I hope you wish me the same.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 3, 2023 8:15 pm

Muddy, Hairy sometimes reads my stuff as an outside observer, the man on the Clapham Omnibus lol, and lets me know if it is not clear enough for him. Maybe Top Ender could do the same for you. It really helps.

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