Open Thread – Weekend 3 June 2023


One of the Family, Frederick George Cotman, 1880

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Rabz
June 3, 2023 6:01 pm

Freo

The last time I was there, in January 2020 with jupes and Doc Beaugan, all the aesthetically pleasing young women were dressed like 1960s hippee chicks.

Wunderbar. 🙂

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2023 6:03 pm

“I’ve been so angry re the whole BRS saga over the last couple of days “

You’re not alone, we all feel the same. I saw my mother today and she’s furious. It is just outrageous. I wish he hadn’t pursued this defamation case.

I think BRS should leave this country.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 6:04 pm

Ooops! Apologies Cats, it was 2019.

bat flu insanity twisting my melon, man (again) … 😕

Entropy
Entropy
June 3, 2023 6:07 pm

I regret to say I have never met an Ellie Mae, Cohenite.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 3, 2023 6:08 pm

Albanese mobbed by locals while sampling beer, banh mi

Got the particulars, paywalled.

My 2c worth is Ben is very likely overstating said mobbing of Sleazy in the true tongue bath mode the media are stuck in. Unless of course sleazy allowed it to be dropped in said bar rather than be incognito that he was the Aussie PM which I also wouldn’t put past him.

cohenite
June 3, 2023 6:08 pm

Here’s the skinny on the Roberts-Smith failure:

STFU crotchless; that garbage is via the turdball times. Now, answer the question: did person 12:
1 shoot the dog
2 shoot the prisoner
3 1&2
4 neither

Frank
Frank
June 3, 2023 6:09 pm

Albanese mobbed by locals while sampling beer, banh mi

Rent a crowd, wonder how much they cost. Hopefully he doesn’t make like Rudd and stiff them for the bill.

calli
calli
June 3, 2023 6:09 pm

I have , Entropy.

But I’m a better shot.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 3, 2023 6:09 pm

Whaaaaaat The Clink Freo has closed?

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 3, 2023 6:14 pm

SMH has context. Yup, easy rent a crowd in a country from my experience that’s people generally have a high opinion of Uc da loi…

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/banh-mi-beer-and-friendship-on-the-menu-for-anthony-albanese-in-vietnam-20230603-p5ddmt.html

Muddy
Muddy
June 3, 2023 6:15 pm

Dr Faustus says:
June 3, 2023 at 4:14 pm

I think it was JC who linked to something here the other day postulating that conservative boycotts are now a real force, after a few sputtering false starts.

Purely anecdotal, but I don’t get the impression that there’s anything like an organised conservative boycott happening. Just ordinary people going: ‘No. No, I don’t need this shit, not at all…’

I was about to make the same statement. I don’t think conservatives can take much of the credit for this. I write that not to be provocative, but if we assume the credit due to others, we’ll start to believe there is no urgent, existential need to compete rather than simply observe, in the competition for influence. Both in professional sport and business, you need to be standing on the field/in the market, in order to compete. Competition is a pre-requisite for winning. Winning is the maintenance and stabilisation of the values and institutions gifted to us by our forebears.

dopey
dopey
June 3, 2023 6:16 pm

One thing I’m certain of at least, Kenny is secretly married to Marcia Langton.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 6:16 pm

Albanese mobbed by locals while sampling beer, banh mi

In any just world they’d have beaten the living crap out of him, before going all HOP Time™ on his house sized backside.

Or treating him to a Pinochet style Helicopter jaunt.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 3, 2023 6:17 pm

Albanese mobbed by locals while sampling beer, banh mi

It is like the old joke about the kid having a pork chop ties around his neck so the dogs would play with him.

But Albo has our money when he travels.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 6:18 pm

#communistswine

calli
calli
June 3, 2023 6:18 pm

Well, just watched the Battle of Little Big Horn on Gem.

Obviously sanitised for the viewers, possibly shot in Montana, but I doubt it. It took me back to that sad hillside, late in the afternoon, the shadows lengthening on the grass and the little markers, showing where the men fell.

bespoke
bespoke
June 3, 2023 6:20 pm

cohenitesays:
June 3, 2023 at 5:55 pm

Dover please ban this none binary.

Or exile it to the Adelaide Hills.

Barry
Barry
June 3, 2023 6:22 pm

YouTube will stop removing false presidential election fraud claims.

YouTube is reversing its policies on election misinformation. Starting today, YouTube will stop removing content that “advances false claims that widespread fraud, errors, or glitches occurred in the 2020 and other past US Presidential elections

Why? Are they taking a small step towards the light?

No – they are clearing the decks ready for an avalanche of claims of electoral fraud by Democrats when Biden loses in 2024.

Watch for more reversals to allow Democrats to do everything that they condemn the Right for.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 3, 2023 6:22 pm

Zelensky acknowledges NATO membership not possible for Ukraine

Pianoman testing the exit doors on the war?
Possible negotiated cessation of hostilities?

Rabz
June 3, 2023 6:23 pm

Another li’l factlet about Luigi the Munificent* is that once he leaves politics, Grayndler is goin’ greenfilth.

As is Sydney, once Plibbers’ almighty jowls decree they need to “spend more time with the family”.

*With OPM

MatrixTransform
June 3, 2023 6:33 pm

thanks cats.

any hotel recommendations?

Esplanade Hotel Fremantle ?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 3, 2023 6:33 pm

if morality is a thing … then why so many versions
one flavour certainly must be the correct flavour

A moral sense is like a sense of humour, the one you are born with is pretty primitive, but it evolves and developes as you grow older. Some cultures are more conducive to development than others. It’s pretty clear that some people spontaneously laugh at things others don’t find funny, but enough people make a living as comedians to strongly suggest that there is a fair bit of agreement that some things are funny and others are not.
If you replace funny and not funny with good and bad respectively, you get the same result. There’s a fair amount of agreement, and a certain amount of dissent.
As to what ‘objective’ means, well, you’d have to be a bit weird to deny that jokes exist.

Vicki
Vicki
June 3, 2023 6:44 pm

A moral sense is like a sense of humour, the one you are born with is pretty primitive, but it evolves and developes as you grow older.

I think that is a very elegant summation.

Roger
Roger
June 3, 2023 6:46 pm

Albanese mobbed by locals while sampling beer, banh mi

Whitlam redivivus, frollicking abroad while his ministers wreck the country.

I hope the fool is similarly turfed after three years.

Then Dutton can play Fraser.

rosie
rosie
June 3, 2023 6:49 pm

Noooooo

Zipster
June 3, 2023 6:49 pm

South Korea: Say no to Micron’s share in China and Sides with the U.S., Japan, and Taiwan/Sharp turn
China Insights
In the last episode, we covered the story of this matter and concluded that the CCP’s move was intended to use Micron’s vacated market in China to drive a wedge between the U.S. and its allies and put the U.S.-led coalition against the CCP to the test. For example, they offered the vacated share of Micron in the memory chip market to South Korea’s Samsung or SK Hynix as a lure.
Once the CCP uses its military power to attack Taiwan, the global economy will be greatly affected for sure, and no one can stay intact, away from it. South Korea will definitely be the first to bear the impact. At this critical moment, if South Korea doesn’t opt for the U.S. side, it would face a major or lethal risk in the event of a conflict.

shatterzzz
June 3, 2023 6:50 pm

being a ten pound tourist (1967) I approached Stan’s TEN POUND POMS with an open mind .. now closed! .. duuuh!
Tho, to my credit I did watch all of episode 1 before the, inevitable, flick …….!
I can’t comment much on the arrival in Oz because this is about a family emigrating and I was single so the “welcome to country” was different .. In fact, as a single migrant the last time I saw anyone official from Oz involved in migration was the bloke who handed me my boarding tix at Qantas office in Kings Cross, London .. for me arrival was Qantas flight 21 via NY, SF & Honolulu & Nadi arriving Mascot on a Sunday morning @ 5.15am ..No photos, ID checks or anything else just thru customs and ….. yez on yez own ..!
Anywayz, back to the “show” .. once they are on dry land, Circular Quay, we leapz straight into the Oz “larrikin” pom-baiting guff .. never fails with these shows but, apparently, early morning Sunday was too soon for officialdom to be alive with dry witicizums from my personal experience …..
Sooooo, it’s off to the migrant hostel which seemed to be up in the Blue Mountains somewhere but manages to also be a quick drive to the beach, as well as that far out in the bush that hordes of kangas hop alongside for company .. I’m guessin’ we is playing the OS sales market bit here ….!
Can’t comment on the camp/hostel as I never experienced living in one … tho I was aware there was a big one out at Matraville back in my early dayz ….
After that we is treated to several dayz life and dramas of a migrant family & associates .. the TV types that just don’t occur in real life replete wiv Oz vernacular that only happens in the script writer’s fertile imagination .. everyone hates/dislikes/finds amusing these “pommie bastards” as befits 1950s attitudes .. mind the poms get off light compared to the 251s in this script .. me? I’ve been here 56 years and I’ve never seen/heard 251s spoken too/or treated in the off hand manner they take for granted in episode 1 .. I’m, once again, guessin’, that a bit of racial prejudice adds $ signs to the OS sales pitch …..
I haven’t diverted into the ludicrous side plotz you need to watch to ……. understand .. duuuuh! ..
Personally, I think it would have been much moe realistic wiv a Jack Thompson quintessential Oz character doing the condescending slang he did/does sooo well!…. not sure if he’s dead or maybe too dear but we end up wiv the OAK FLAVOURED MILK bloke slurpin’ it for all he’s worth …..!
Me.? I gives it a, generous, 3/10 but …….. GO on give it a burl, ya knoze ya wants too … LOL!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20318226/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_4_nm_0_q_ten%2520pound%2520poms

mem
mem
June 3, 2023 6:55 pm

Albanese mobbed by locals while sampling beer, banh mi
Ben Packham

Does Ben get free travel, bed and breakfast, to foment over his illustrious Il Douche Albanese, or does he just sit at home and regurgitate the official press release for his shilling.?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 3, 2023 6:56 pm

As to what ‘objective’ means, well, you’d have to be a bit weird to deny that jokes exist.

In Terry Pratchett’s discworld books, there is a fool’s guild which has standardised humour. There are officially approved jokes and the guild enforces humour by rules. Back on earth, we haven’t done that yet, but we, or the church, have tried to do it with morals.

It hasn’t been a huge success.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 3, 2023 7:00 pm

I’d guess ending the Uke war would be a vote winner for Trump.
So the Dems will try to tidy it up before the POTUS primaries begin in Feb `24.

calli
calli
June 3, 2023 7:01 pm

Lewis (or, more exactly, his devil) talks about jokes and humour in The Screwtape Letters.

The take – Hell is austere and humourless. We get a taste of it with Woke and the culture of Offence.

Even Rowan Atkinson had something to say about it in his Free Speech address.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 3, 2023 7:02 pm

Manchester City V Internazionale

It will be a bloodbath Rabz. City by 4

Pogria
Pogria
June 3, 2023 7:06 pm

Hey any and all tech savvy Cats here tonight. I need a little help please. I bought a laptop today so I may continue to lurk here during cold winter nights. My computer room come office is like a walk-in freezer this time of year.
The help I need is, not having a mouse, how do I grab and hold links and comments and tab headers so I may paste or link for all your kittehs pleasure and perusal? 😀
Any and all help and suggestions greatly appreciated.

Roger
Roger
June 3, 2023 7:08 pm

Lewis (or, more exactly, his devil) talks about jokes and humour in The Screwtape Letters.

He also talks about universal morality in Mere Christianity & The Abolition of Man.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 7:10 pm

New Radio Show is up, Cats! 🙂

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 3, 2023 7:10 pm

You have a touchpad I presume, Pogria?

Select an item: Tap on the touchpad.
Scroll: Place two fingers on the touchpad and slide horizontally or vertically.
Zoom in or out: Place two fingers on the touchpad and pinch in or stretch out.
Show more commands (similar to right-clicking): Tap the touchpad with two fingers, or press in the lower-right corner.

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2023 7:11 pm

“I hope the fool is similarly turfed after three years.”

Nup, not going to happen. Sadly, I don’t share your hope. Comparing 2023 to 1975 is like comparing apples and oranges. It was a different time, a different country, an homogenous country, with a strong middle class and Australians were much better educated. Australia in 2023 is a country replete with woke indoctrinated Marxists and migrants from third world shitholes that have been brought to this country to vote Labor.

Why do you think Labor wants to bring in over a million new migrants over the next few years? To fortify elections, that’s why.

shatterzzz
June 3, 2023 7:12 pm

Albanese mobbed by locals while sampling beer, banh mi

Someone spread a rumour he was from CentreLink carrying a boxful of sign-on forms …….

Roger
Roger
June 3, 2023 7:12 pm

…how do I grab and hold links and comments and tab headers so I may paste or link for all your kittehs pleasure and perusal? ?

Install a wood heater in your office.

😀

(My laptop is similarly limited in functionality; I’ll check back for any advice given.)

Roger
Roger
June 3, 2023 7:14 pm

Someone spread a rumour he was from CentreLink carrying a boxful of sign-on forms ……

Don’t be silly.

Immigration…Visas.

rosie
rosie
June 3, 2023 7:14 pm

Can you plug in a mouse to your laptop?

Roger
Roger
June 3, 2023 7:14 pm

Nup, not going to happen. Sadly, I don’t share your hope. Comparing 2023 to 1975 is like comparing apples and oranges

I need those codes for emojis again, Rabz.

People keep taking my throw away lines seriously.

rosie
rosie
June 3, 2023 7:15 pm

I only use my phone to access the cat.
Perfectly possible to link and cut and paste using phone.
Diogenes is the man to explain how.

Pogria
Pogria
June 3, 2023 7:16 pm

Top Ender, thanks heaps.
I will be practicing directly. 😀
Fingers crossed.

shatterzzz
June 3, 2023 7:16 pm

“I hope the fool is similarly turfed after three years.”

Will it matter? .. we should know by now that all parties are cut from the same cloth .. looking after themselves …. every Fed election is the same regardless of stripes .. promises, promises, promises .. all conveniently forgotten or laffed at the morning after the counting is dun ………

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 3, 2023 7:17 pm

How long before Albo is being ushered into RSLs with the Trot equivalent of Mummy bloggers?

Roger
Roger
June 3, 2023 7:19 pm

Spokoynay nochi.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 7:19 pm

BB – I wouldn’t be so sure – Champs’ League Finals have a habit of producing some unexpected results.

See for example:

Bayern V Chelski 2012 at the Allianz Arena

AC Milan V Liverpool 2005 – aka, the “Miracle of Istanbul”

The Final this year being played at the same venue as the 2005 boilover. If Man City achieve the Treble then Pep is back to the sort of managerial mastery he hasn’t displayed since leaving Barcelona a decade ago. His time at Bayern for example, was a huge disappointment.

bons
bons
June 3, 2023 7:20 pm

Yes of course the Irish reject the IRA which explains the devestating 11% increase in Sinn Fein votes at the last Federal election.
Yep, them Irish, balanced, selfless, not at all tools of globalism.
Oh, and regarding their WWII behaviour; they gave shelter to German submarines until Churchill threatened invasion. And yes, they arrested German spys when threatened by the Brits. The problem being that the first spy that they arrested was a Brit.
And, demonstrating their immutable understanding of evil, they made a very reasonable declaration of condolances to the German nation upon the death of Hitler.

Makka
Makka
June 3, 2023 7:21 pm

we should know by now that all parties are cut from the same cloth ..

Well , they aren’t. The LNP get all scared into doing SFA when in power. No conviction, no guts. Bunch of cowards. Whereas the Liars go full tilt at getting their agenda , maaates and OPM vote buying implemented.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 3, 2023 7:22 pm

Please. No wogball discussion or I’ll have to ask you to take your aperitifs outside.

calli
calli
June 3, 2023 7:24 pm

And, like humour, the devil hates music also. Unless he can debase it, of course, but that is incredibly hard to do. Beautiful music always wins.

His servants, however, find it hard to bear.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 3, 2023 7:26 pm

AC Milan V Liverpool 2005 – aka, the “Miracle of Istanbul”

Aye. A most magnificent match. Jerzy Dudek

Rabz
June 3, 2023 7:26 pm

The Pepster in a pair of Copa Mundials during his time at Bayern München.

Legendary kicks. I have two unworn pairs, one black, one white.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 3, 2023 7:31 pm
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 3, 2023 7:31 pm

And, like humour, the devil hates music also.

Yes, the aesthetic sense is very similar to the moral sense and the sense of humour; they all develope with exposure.

It’s not a fixed thing that we all observe, like the sun and moon, but it’s clearly there.. It’s as if we’re all climbing a mountain; we start from different places, we are at different heights, and nobody’s got to the top. But we know when we’ve got a step higher up.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 7:33 pm

A most magnificent match.

The Gerrard – another adidas legend.

As a mighty Reds supporter, 2005 was all we had until the advent of die Klopp.

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2023 7:36 pm

“Well , they aren’t. The LNP get all scared into doing SFA when in power. No conviction, no guts. Bunch of cowards. Whereas the Liars go full tilt at getting their agenda , maaates and OPM vote buying implemented.”

Correct, they aren’t cut from the same cloth, when Labor gets into power, they waste no time in implementing their agendas, even agendas they didn’t take to the electorate. Labor’s lies are blatant and they don’t give a stuff. The Liberals? Spineless, craven, cowardly, and pigeon-hearted cretins and mediocrities.

Muddy
Muddy
June 3, 2023 7:37 pm

Top Ender.
I sent an email to you via Dover last night.
It may end up in your junk mail as it’s a funky address (the good addresses like ‘hotnerdymess’ were taken).

Indolent
Indolent
June 3, 2023 7:37 pm
Morsie
Morsie
June 3, 2023 7:38 pm

BRS was IMHO badly advised.These proceedings were way to complicated to control .Too many issues girl friends, wife ,ex comrades,ex enemies ryc etc.
He was never going to win on all these issues.
Defamation proceedings need to be simple about limited issues.
Remember John Wren who sued for criminal libel arguing that Power without Glory painted his wife as an adulteress.In order to proceed he had to admit all the other stuff was true I.e. illegal gambling etc etc..His reputation never recovered.BRS was chasing too many rabbits

Pogria
Pogria
June 3, 2023 7:39 pm

Here’s hoping. A blast from the past has risen from the tar-pit.
https://twitter.com/marilyn71518418?s=11&t=6bcsAnzSNsf4oiVFiftxdA

If this link works, hat-tip to Kae.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 3, 2023 7:39 pm

JC earlier.

The most frightening thing that could happen to a corp is what happening to Bud . Death by a thousand cuts. You bet that large corp boards are looking into the marketing strategies with a laser.

Regarding potential class actions.
Yes, there is an element of cannibalism with shareholders suing the company, and could be seen as futile.
But the list of respondents could be widened to include external marketing consultants and suing employees personally.
How many CEOs would risk a clawback of options and bonuses for recklessly destroying shareholder value?
Maybe Bud Light isn’t the case, because the level of boycott is unprecedented.
But now that it has happened to Bud Light, no exec in future can claim, “Gee, I didn’t think it would tank sales that badly”.
Discovery in such cases would be a hoot.
Imagine grilling the ponytails about their risk analysis and market research into their current customer base as to the likely reaction to any proposed woke campaign.

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2023 7:44 pm

“Morsiesays:
June 3, 2023 at 7:38 pm”

I don’t disagree.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 3, 2023 7:44 pm

Maybe Mr Guardiola can take the reins of Carlton. Could not be any worse.

Muddy
Muddy
June 3, 2023 7:45 pm

The LNP get all scared into doing SFA when in power. No conviction, no guts. Bunch of cowards.

Their voters don’t expect much from them, and will continue to vote for them regardless of their efforts, so why exert oneself?

If I may be somewhat direct: Why open one’s fly and flop it out when one risks attention from passing seagulls?

Pogria
Pogria
June 3, 2023 7:46 pm

Roger, cheeky, fire is in the lounge room.
Rosie, I have thought about that, yet to try it. Sitting here replete with lamb and shiraz. Don’t want to get up until the dogs need to go out.

Top Ender, you tube was going to be my next stop, thanks again.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 7:47 pm

LOL, Pogria – it seems ol’ habits do die hard …

Mariloon Sheephead
@Mariloon666
2 Jun
When Ukrainian farces liberated Kozacha Lopan, civilians emerged with tales of a Russian torture chamber beneath the village – ALPBC News – when the USA couldn’t find an Iraq they tooks his family to Abu Ghraib, Israel kills the whole family but Russia are the bad guys

The sort of incoherent staggering stupidity that could never be bottled. Just love the way it manages to namecheck the Ukes, Wussia, the ALPBC, Iraq and (cue spoookee muzak …) da Joooze.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 3, 2023 7:48 pm

Speaking of Carlton, I see Liam Jones playing good football at his first club, Bullflogs. Had to cop a year out for his refusal to be jabbed, and would be a contender for All Australian.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 7:50 pm

Maybe Mr Guardiola can take the reins of Carlton

A Ted Lasso type scenario. They’d probably end up winning multiple premierships.

Incidentally, I note that the Pepster played himself in the current series of Ted Lasso.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 3, 2023 7:50 pm

Pogriasays:
June 3, 2023 at 7:39 pm
Here’s hoping. A blast from the past has risen from the tar-pit.
https://twitter.com/marilyn71518418?s=11&t=6bcsAnzSNsf4oiVFiftxdA

If this link works, hat-tip to Kae.

Mary-Loon Sheep-Head seems a trifle upset. She’ll bust a kerfoofle valve if she doesn’t calm down.

Indolent
Indolent
June 3, 2023 7:51 pm
Rabz
June 3, 2023 7:52 pm

Had to cop a year out for his refusal to be jabbed

Good on him, but what an act of bastardry by the ALPFL.

Indolent
Indolent
June 3, 2023 7:53 pm
Indolent
Indolent
June 3, 2023 7:54 pm
Indolent
Indolent
June 3, 2023 7:57 pm

I don’t imagine it will be any different here.

South Dakota Farmers Face Carbon-capture Land Theft

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 3, 2023 8:02 pm

Maybe Mr Guardiola can take the reins of Carlton. Could not be any worse.

It’s as if Big John had never left the building.

It’s Remarkable
It’s Remarkable
June 3, 2023 8:02 pm

With thanks to Indolent, and moreso to Musk – watched the Matt Walsh movie. Very good, and how come all these lefties and supposedly mainstream medicos cannot answer what a woman is.
Until the end, when his wife says “adult, human female”.
Hooray…

Muddy
Muddy
June 3, 2023 8:03 pm

Kurt Schlicter in Townhall:

But isn’t that the problem – the ignoring of us, the base? Whenever I deal with these people, I get the idea that we are being just barely tolerated, that the attitude of the pros – pros who, I might add, keep failing to perform adequately – is that we should shut up, put up, and pay up. Our input is not needed or wanted. Great attitude – fine work, people. Want to know why GOP small-donor donations are a fraction of what the Dems rake in? Because we get treated like trash. From refusing to deign to explain to us what our money and time will be used to do to being dunned by endless emails explaining how we suck for failing to pay up, the GOP is just one step behind Bud Light and Target in their understanding, appreciation, and cultivation of their consumers.

I’m struggling to identify why this seems familiar…

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 3, 2023 8:06 pm

Aquinas would agree with calli and DrBeauGan about morality and a sense of humour. He thought that risibilitas was part of a morally sound personality – as long as you didn’t take it to the point of having a frivolous attitude to life.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 8:06 pm

No one is perfect.

The Irish never declared peace in our time and thousands still volunteered to fight as British soldiers.

The spite old IRA men had is not what the average Irish man felt.

de Valera never went to a classical music recital with Hitler nor did the Irish* have a significant black shirt movement nor a Lord Haw Haw figure.

The Irish had a choice with Churchill’s ultimatum and they could have asked Germany for help.

They didn’t.

*Joyce was a very conflicted American with Irish roots (mixed denomination heritage but pro Union Protestant) and English relatives who was a British soldier and very likely a Black and Tan informer – and ultimately a black shirt and Nazi German citizen.

Rising Sinn Fein votes are on the back of the DUP boycotting the NI Parliament and the 2020 Irish Republic vote was high as a protest vote by younger voters: unification, housing prices and left wing ideas like being anti austerity (a tragic result of public education).

Those voters aren’t joining the IRA’s many splinter groups.

rosie
rosie
June 3, 2023 8:09 pm

There has been an unexpected death in difficult circumstances in my extended family, I am somewhat removed from the situation but it’s always hard news for those who are near and dear.
A reminder too that we know not the hour or the day.
PS No condolences necessary.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 8:10 pm

The biggest fear locally, Campbell noted, was not the German navy but the IRA. The army was “more concerned about our ability to defend our weapons against raids by fellow Irishmen,” he wrote. As for the rumoured U-boat incursions elsewhere: “While this was going on, it was difficult to be patient with stories about German submarines openly refuelling at bases along the south and west coast.”

Fisk took the word of wartime minister for defence Frank Aiken who in 1979 told him: “No German U-boat landed on the Irish coast; if it had done, I think I would have heard about it.”

And the British government never produced evidence of refuelling, Fisk noted. On the other hand, he quoted then recently released Cabinet papers that might fit with the Quilty case, in which the British suggested that U-boats may occasionally have landed crews “for purposes of relaxation and obtaining fresh provisions”.

Thanks rosie.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 3, 2023 8:11 pm

I see, by the way, that the Stalinist Hunchback of Spring Street has had to back down on the imposition of payroll tax on non-government schools.

No thanks to Victoria’s useless excuse for an opposition, of course. But there are an awful lot of leftist hypocrites in Victoria who oppose private education in principle but send their own kids to private schools. Chairman Dan is one of them, and the others must have been whinging in his oversized ears.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 3, 2023 8:13 pm

Rumour going round in NQ that Mike Brunker ALP head kicker round the Whitsundays and Whitsunday Council may be in a tad of bother with the ALP friendly CCC.

Here’s hoping this expands.

calli
calli
June 3, 2023 8:13 pm

All good, rosie. Condolences can be expressed in upticks.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 3, 2023 8:16 pm

Tonight I had the best burger I’ve ever had in Oz.
From a food truck on the side of Canterbury Road, Belmore.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 8:17 pm

Thank God for the Irish; it was an Irishman who defeated Emperor le Nosey.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 3, 2023 8:18 pm

I’ve had research for a manuscript about Col. Warfe sitting around for years, waiting for me to magically get over a writer’s block type of issue.

Muddy, I feel your pain. I have been sitting on research about the post-Roman writer Gildas, knowing that I have to say what I think about the misdating of his floruit and all that follows from that, but it is an incredibly complicated tale of datings, misdatings, and confusions over a document that is extremely confusing to start with in an historical situation that is fraught with differing opinions about what was going on.

I decided a week ago that I was going to knock some shape into it, send it to Hairy’s barrister friend in England who knows this stuff and who wants to read it, and keep it to a length suitable for a publishable article, not a book chapter, which must come later. This makes me prune it to its essence. That’s a good discipline and I suggest you try to do that same. Keep it as though you are writing for the Cat audience and don’t get above them or talk down to them or become too simplistic for them. A tough call. Eight or quarto pages maximum, even less if your material can be readily condensed. You don’t have to get every little thing in, and beware over overwriting and also of repetition.

Hairy sometimes reads my stuff as an outside observer, the man on the Clapham Omnibus lol, and lets me know if it is not clear enough for him. Maybe Top Ender could do the same for you. It really helps.

Good luck and I hope you wish me the same.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 3, 2023 8:21 pm

Lifted below from post at Jo Nova. As poster mentioned you can read it online or buy copies. I was sent a copy by somebody who bought 5,000 to give out. It is getting around and they printed 250,000 of latest edition.

The Light Australia – Being Paid for and Distributed By Volunteers – A Grass Roots Movement With Mass Impacts

I discovered The Light Australia today. The site is accessible and all issues are downloadable from this link (below). Some articles are Australia-specific, others are applicable everywhere! What a brilliant movement! Businesses are distributing it; volunteers are door dropping it; people are sharing it.

https://thelightaustralia.com/

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 3, 2023 8:22 pm

The Light Australia – Being Paid for and Distributed By Volunteers – A Grass Roots Movement With Mass Impacts

I can’t see a form letters section on their website.
So it’s an initial thumbs up from me.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 8:25 pm

feelthebern says:
June 3, 2023 at 8:16 pm
Tonight I had the best burger I’ve ever had in Oz.
From a food truck on the side of Canterbury Road, Belmore.

Must have started at lunch.

Muddy
Muddy
June 3, 2023 8:25 pm

Thanks for the advice, Lizzie. I have been vacillating (is that a word?) for so long, I think I need to acknowledge the limit of my abilities, and hope that such acknowledgement does not bruise my already fragile ego too much. My strengths lie in research, hence my plea the other night for someone to adopt one of my toddler manuscripts.

Being a history nerd, I’m always keen to read the product of your passions on English and classical topics.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 3, 2023 8:26 pm

Didn’t get it Muddy, and it’s not in spam. Make sure you send it to my gmail address, not Bigpond – I left Telstra due to their server problems some months ago. I’ll check Dover has the right one.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 3, 2023 8:30 pm

Looking at that Mary-Loon thread, while many of us here are disappointed with the SFLs, look at her bitter rejection of pretty much every party, with the possible exception of the Slime/commos (BIRM).

Muddy
Muddy
June 3, 2023 8:31 pm

Top Ender.
I emailed it to Dover and asked him to pass it on, rather than asking for your address first. Perhaps it’s slipped into Dover’s spam filter.

Muddy
Muddy
June 3, 2023 8:32 pm

Lord Dover.
Have you received my email for Top Ender please? Thanks.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 8:37 pm

Some real stories and data, not feelings.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/arid-20350818.html

***While Dr MacCarthy’s* story is incredible it is only one of many remarkable accounts of what happened to the Irishmen and women who chose to serve in the British armed forces during the Second World War. The Irish state was officially neutral but Britain owed a huge debt to the Irish people who fought on the Allied side. Some 70,000 citizens of Ireland served in the British armed forces during the war, together with another 50,000 from Northern Ireland.***

*Irish medical Dr, joined the RAF in 1939, was a POW of the Japanese and survived an atomic bombing. Sunk three times as either an evacuee or POW. Earnt the George Medal, outside of combat with the enemy.

Damon
Damon
June 3, 2023 8:44 pm

OK, we’ve got the horse. Where’s the dog?

Damon
Damon
June 3, 2023 8:45 pm

OK, we’ve got the horse. Where’s the dog?

Damon
Damon
June 3, 2023 8:46 pm

Shit. Keyboard again..

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 3, 2023 8:48 pm

#communistswine

Would this be the pic you had in mind Rabz?

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 3, 2023 8:54 pm

And I have it on the footy, Neale Daniher is still fighting the Beast as he calls it, Motor Neurone Disease. The bloke can’t speak so has one of those things Hawking uses to communicate. Just a humble bloke trying to change shit for the betterment of others. He knows he will perish, but it’s taken a long time for him to succumb to something which takes its victims mostly within 3 years of diagnosis.
Phucking champion

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2023 8:59 pm

“de Valera never went to a classical music recital with Hitler “

No, de Valera just signed a condolence book on hearing of Hitler’s suicide.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2023 9:13 pm

Well, he signed the condolence book, anyway.
A forest was also planted in his memory outside Tel Aviv.
A bit like Albanese, in that there was mystery about the identity of his pappy, shipboard romance the cover story.

Anyway, my favorite story of the auld warrior [he hid under a bed in the Dublin Post Office for 3 days while a rebellion, which he had fomented, raged on]
was during his time as President of the Irish Republic.
He was attending amateur boxing matched at Madison Square Garden between Irish and American boxers when a riot broke out over a decision.
For some reason he stood up [rather than hide under a chair] and caught a flying beer bottle in the back of the head.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 3, 2023 9:16 pm

The bloke can’t speak so has one of those things Hawking uses to communicate. Just a humble bloke trying to change shit for the betterment of others. He knows he will perish, but it’s taken a long time for him to succumb to something which takes its victims mostly within 3 years of diagnosis.
Phucking champion

Word.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 3, 2023 9:18 pm

Reposted, in full, and for excellence. DBG at 2.07 today:

You’re hired by the government to fight a war in a country where the enemy dress like civilians and try to pass as civilians. Let’s say that for any one native there’s a nine in ten probability that he’s an innocent civilian, and a one in ten probability that he’s planning to kill you if he can. Do you release him on the grounds that it’s 90% likely he’s an innocent civilian?

If you do this ten times, the probability of one of them intending to kill you rises to just over 65%. Your life expectancy shrinks in proportion to the number of times you let off the probably innocent. Hence the only realistic strategy is to kill them all.

This isn’t a very happy conclusion, but it’s the only realistic one. Those who make judgements from an armchair in safety can avoid reality, our soldiers cannot. Leak has it exactly right.

This. This is exactly right.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 3, 2023 9:21 pm

Bit of Combat Rock for Saturday night… I give you The Clash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ9r8LMU9bQ

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 9:25 pm

No, de Valera just signed a condolence book on hearing of Hitler’s suicide.

I am not defending that. It’s not possible to defend.

It is absurd to damn all Irish people when the immediately former British monarch and Prime Minister had such poor judgment regarding the Nazis as well.

If the Irish “tolerate” the IRA, America “tolerates” the Weather Underground, Antifa, BLM…

It’s such a damned absurdity to make out your average Irish citizen is like an Afghan secretly supporting the Taliban.

It’s absurd.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 9:32 pm

Interesting views from Irish people

https://www.quora.com/How-do-people-in-the-Republic-of-Ireland-feel-about-the-IRA

1.

If you mean today in 2017, 19 years after the signing of the Good Friday Agreement by all major parties in Northern Ireland and with a functioning if fragile democracy in place in the north, then I would say the vast majority of the people of Ireland (99%) believe the IRA is no longer necessary and should either disband completely or at least cease all violent and illegal activities.

However if you were to go back 20 or 30 years the situation would not be so clear cut. Prior to 1998, due to a system of gerrymandering there was no true democratic representation for Catholics in Northern Ireland.

This had been the case since the formation of the Irish Free State and the partition of the Island in 1922. Civil rights marches by Catholics had been tried in Northern Ireland in the late 60’s and early 70’s but had been either banned or broken up by the police.

In such a situation, where civil rights are being withheld from a population and the peaceful means that have been tried have been met with government-backed violence, many people will concede that armed struggle if not inevitable, will be the most likely outcome.

Having said that, during the period of the troubles, the IRA were never supported by a majority of the people of Ireland.

2.

Assuming we’re talking about the PIRA and its various offshoots during and after the Troubles, generally very negatively, with the exception of a minority. Most folks here have no more time for the IRA’s terrorism and criminal activities than they do for any other sort of terrorists.

A minority of folks (generally Sinn Fein supporters, that party having effectively been the IRA’s PR department before the current peace) feel more positively towards the IRA. Their justification of it tends to centre around notions that “there was a war going on”. If you call them on the various acts of terrorism the IRA committed, the responses vary – attacks on the security forces in the North, they tend to consider “legitimate targets”/”war something something”. For the more heinous stuff, they tend to either just admit that was wrong (a more modern development), or some variation of it was collateral damage/the Brits made them do it, describe it as “unauthorised” action, or outright pretend it wasn’t the IRA (a fairly common tactic during the Troubles especially – the IRA would only take credit for activities that it felt put it in a good light).

The dissident Republican offshoots of the IRA (the CIRA/Real IRA, etc), have very little support at all in the Republic nowadays, including amongst Sinn Fein members. Sinn Fein folks’ support for the IRA is historical (though quite recent history) at this point; the PIRA has ended their “armed struggle” and Sinn Fein is very much into the peace process. They’ll still usually stand over most of the things the IRA did during the Troubles, mind you.

For a lot more detail and background (on the early days of the Troubles especially, which I’m not as familiar with), see several excellent answers to this question (I haven’t merged them as the other question seem to be inquiring more towards government support):

3. (Why do Brits keep saying that the US funded the IRA?)

Not just Brits. I’m Irish, from a Republican background, want a United Ireland and live in a Northern Irish nationalist town. You did fund the IRA. They also knew your security services were far less on the ball than those in the UK, so they did a lot of planning, recruiting and weapons dealing in America. Whether it was incompetence or collusion on the part of your secret services I don’t know. But look up Noraid and its role in funding the IRA, what your politicians supported. You guys have and had no clue what it was like living here with the mess you made sticking your noses in. It was bad enough without American influence. You’ll probably think all Irish Nationalists were pro IRA. No. We aren’t and weren’t. If it hadn’t been for America we could have had a more peaceful island years earlier, the situation wouldn’t have escalated, some people I know wouldn’t have died, my father wouldn’t have been shot at and we’d never have been bombed out of our home.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Cassie of Sydney says: June 3, 2023 at 8:59 pm

“de Valera never went to a classical music recital with Hitler “

No, de Valera just signed a condolence book on hearing of Hitler’s suicide.

This requires context:
A fortnight before Hitler’s death, de Valera made no such visit to the US delegation to offer condolences on the passing of President Roosevelt, or to sign condolence book.

Furthermore: de Valera refused to attend a memorial service for President Roosevelt. (Words have meanings, de Valera did not decline, her refused to attend.)

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 10:02 pm

Maybe de Valera should have taken up Churchill’s offer of Irish unity in exchange for an alliance and mobilisation. I think Churchill truly did not have the power to grant this to Ireland. He was very popular for most of the war but but one man out of hundreds in the Commons, let alone the hundreds of Lords, as well as the King and Ulster Unionists. On the other hand de Valera might have just been expressing his bitter clinger sentiments.

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2023 10:05 pm

“It is absurd to damn all Irish people when the immediately former British monarch and Prime Minister had such poor judgment regarding the Nazis as well.”

I don’t and I never have “damned all Irish people”.

However, it is worth nothing that perhaps the most anti-Semitic country in Europe in 2023 is the Republic of Ireland.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 10:07 pm

I don’t and I never have “damned all Irish people”.

It wasn’t you.

However, it is worth nothing that perhaps the most anti-Semitic country in Europe in 2023 is the Republic of Ireland.

Why is that so?

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 10:13 pm

If it goes back to the BDS stuff, we have a BDS sympathetic PM with BDS sympathetic cabinet Ministers.

The saddest thing about this to me is that these people are useful idiots of a country that doesn’t exist anymore, fighting a proxy war for it to antagonise the West (that dead country being the USSR). The USSR obviously had no interest in genuinely supporting either Zionism or pan Arab nationalism, at least not permanently.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 10:17 pm

The Irish have the largest diaspora of any ethnic group outside as of the Jewish people (as a proportion). It’s be bigger than the Jews if you count Israel as the base, but you had the holocaust. There are around 5 million Jews in Israel and 17 million Jews in the world.

There are ~5 million Irish is Ireland and around 75 million around the world who claim direct Irish descent. Big crowd.

Anthony Quinn was Mexican Irish. How the hell did Irish end up in Mexico. 🙂

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2023 10:20 pm

“Why is that so?”

I do think anti-Semitism runs deep in some sections of Irish republicanism (though not all), as to why, I don’t know, there are several theories. I’m not unsympathetic to Irish nationalism, I also understand why the IRA gained such a foothold in Northern Island, because the way the Catholic minority (it’s no longer a minority) was treated by the the Unionists was disgusting, Catholics in Northern Ireland were second class citizens and they were treated appallingly, pogroms by Unionists against Catholics were not unusual. But the behaviour and actions of the IRA were (and still are) appalling, and what’s worse, the actions of the IRA, Gerry Adams and others have been conveniently whitewashed.

It was the British who f*cked things up in Northern Island. When they sent the army in, many Ulster Catholics originally supported the arrival of the British army, only to be bitterly disappointed.

As for World War II and Nazis, there were many Irish Catholics who enlisted to help the Britain and kol hakavod to them.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 10:22 pm

the Stalinist Hunchback of Spring Street has had to back down on the imposition of payroll tax on non-government schools

OL – thanks for breaking this very interesting piece of news.

That the grotesque deformed jug eared fascist imbecile backed down on the above is unexpected.

Hopefully, Outsiders will run loudly and strongly with this tomorrow morning.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 10:22 pm

This is a demographically diabolical population stat.

Between 1700 and 1840, Ireland experienced rapid population growth, rising from less than three million in 1700 to over eight million by the 1841 census. In 1851, as the Great Famine was ending, the population of Ireland had dropped to 6.5 million people.

In a decade it lost ~20% of its population. That’s bound to really screw you up psychologically.

I can’t think of a country that hasn’t experienced population growth since the 1800s other than Ireland. Incredible.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 10:27 pm

As for World War II and Nazis, there were many Irish Catholics who enlisted to help the Britain and kol hakavod to them.

And only two, two joined the Waffen SS.

A handful of Irishmen fought for Nazi Germany – but only two ever wore the uniform of the notorious Waffen-SS… During the Second World War, two young Irishmen served in the armed forces of Nazi Germany, swearing the oath of the Waffen-SS, wearing the organisation’s uniform and even its distinctive blood group tattoo.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 10:28 pm

Cassie – the Oirish have always run their own race, unlike the Welsh and the Scots who weren’t blessed with that distance from the mainland.

I tried to have a phone conversation with my Oirish workmate on Thursday and yet again, the phone proved not to be an “ideal” way to communicate with someone possessing a strong Oirish accent.

🙁

Rabz
June 3, 2023 10:33 pm

In a decade it lost ~20% of its population

err, JC, would not a proportion of that population loss have included the emigrants to North America?

I’m always leery of potato famine rewriting, to be sure, to be sure.

Anyway, I’d rather look at and listen to a brunette siren being (inadvertently) politically incorrect … 🙂

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
June 3, 2023 10:38 pm

I understand BRS was dispatched to the location where they trouble occurred in response to an Afghan soldier trained by Aus troops shooting dead 3 Aus soldiers. The missions after were highly charged emotionally. They caught the perpetrator and he was held in a local prison after being tried and condemned to death. Subsequently released by Taliban with no objection from US as no American was injured / killed. One big shit show all round and we pull out a violation ticket on one of our own. We are fwits. Led by our left media.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 10:41 pm

Gee that’s a big number in the US. 40% of Jews live in the US and 40% in Israel.

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 3, 2023 10:45 pm

This isn’t a very happy conclusion, but it’s the only realistic one. Those who make judgements from an armchair in safety can avoid reality, our soldiers cannot. Leak has it exactly right.

AKA: “If you weren’t there, you don’t get an opinion…”

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 10:45 pm

err, JC, would not a proportion of that population loss have included the emigrants to North America?

err Rabz, I myself didn’t mention the loss was death from the famine. I just suggested losing 20% of your population in a decade is pretty significant. Many other countries had large diasporas but none appear to be sitting on a population stat now lower than 1850. That’s pretty incredible.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 10:53 pm

And move they did in huge numbers.

Between 1845 and 1855 more than 1.5 million adults and children left Ireland to seek refuge in America.

Yep and there’s the difference, at least some of it ignoring net population gains through birth.

Between 1845 and 1855 more than 1.5 million adults and children left Ireland to seek refuge in America.

Alamak!
Alamak!
June 3, 2023 10:54 pm

However, it is worth nothing that perhaps the most anti-Semitic country in Europe in 2023 is the Republic of Ireland.

More than any country in Eastern Europe, for example? And is Russia considered part of Europe these days?

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 10:59 pm

AKA: “If you weren’t there, you don’t get an opinion…”

Sorry Duk, but I don’t buy that. That’s a version of the lived experience nonsense we see here being floated by some of the folks of lessor intellect and appear to operate through instinct rather than a brian.

The Australian military answers to civilian government and our civilian government makes the damned rules. That’s in no way suggesting anything about BRS.

“We’re” also not witness to any crime that occurs in the country. But that doesn’t mean we can’t adjudicate a crime and take action through criminal courts.

The lived experience argument is bullshit.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 10:59 pm

Shakes – the personage you speak of above is the Hekmatullah.

Livin’ large in Stan after having shot three Ozzies in the back from point blank range.

We are too soft and stupid for our own good.

For exactly just how long does humanitee think it can tolerate islam, an idiotology that is even more evil and toxic than communism and nayzeeism combined?

Hint – we’re now up to many, many centuries of stupidly doing so …

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 11:00 pm

brain.

Indolent
Indolent
June 3, 2023 11:00 pm
Indolent
Indolent
June 3, 2023 11:01 pm
Rabz
June 3, 2023 11:07 pm

operate through instinct rather than a brian

JC – BRS is now being gleefully denounced in the braindead lamestream meeja as a murderer.

You should be able to recognise that if he wasn’t previously defamed, courtesy of Bonkersanko’s learned judgement then now he is, in spades.

Let’s see some actual criminal trial worthy evidence, you collectivist quisling scum – and if you can’t, then Stokesy and BRS get the $25 million back and I joyously gift you with some glorious and long overdue HOP Time™.

Resulting in winners all round 🙂

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Fair Shake says: June 3, 2023 at 10:38 pm

+1

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 11:14 pm

Rabz

I was responding to Duk’s lived experience claim: not what’s happened to BRS.

I believe BRS is being buried in bullshit claims despite getting the all clear from the research that was done when nominated for a medal.

Having said that, civilian government sets the rules for the military. Period.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 11:14 pm

Oh God. The plussing commences.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 11:17 pm

Fair shake

If that’s what happened, Australia should have pulled the troops out the very second the criminal was released.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2023 11:19 pm

Roberts-Smith is referred to as ‘soldier-villain’ in today’s Australian, so it’s pretty tongue in cheek, he went for the big payout and ended up on his arse and I’d say that’s the end of him as a public figure.

He’ll probably show up either a a Bouncer somewhere or a member of the Northern Territory Constabulary.

My advice to anyone who runs into Ben:
Start praying.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 11:21 pm

civilian government sets the rules for the military. Period.

Then expect many more “sub optimal outcomes” for all concerned – civilians, the soldiery and the enemy, who should always be slaughtered on (or out of) sight, armed or unarmed.

Soft and stupid. We’re up against enemies that may be staggeringly stupid (e.g. moozleys and chinamen) but they ain’t soft.

As we’ll soon no doubt discover.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2023 11:22 pm

P.S.
It’s too bad World Championship Wresting folded, because I reckon
Ben Roberts-Smith and Zack Rolfe as Heels versus, say, Killer Karl Kox and Spiros Arion would bring the house down.
Particularly if Killer Karl applied The BrainBuster to Benny.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 11:24 pm

I’d say that’s the end of him as a public figure

Cue the Ben Roberts-Smith Morning Show running on channel Stokesy until at least 2040 (if the latter doesn’t go tits up in the meantime).

Thanks, Eddles.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 11:24 pm

Rabz

That’s how our system works. The military is not a law onto itself. It reports to the government of the day, as it should.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Oh God. The plussing commences.

Go & take a running screw at yourself, you flaccid hors d’oeuver frankfurtini

MatrixTransform
June 3, 2023 11:26 pm

AKA: “If you weren’t there, you don’t get an opinion…”

opinions are all they get

and opinions are like arseholes

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

and opinions are like arseholes

and the Cat already has one of those.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2023 11:34 pm

Get a life, armchair War Heroes.

Ben Roberts-Smith is probably a SitzPinkler anyway.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 11:36 pm

Forgive me for making you angry, Driller, but a lot of us find your primitive ways and fraudulent comments to be a disgrace here. The plussing included. Rather than plussing people, you ought to be posting some of those 52 magical licenses and permits you claimed to have satisfied inorder to catch up to AI’s 6. Chop chop, get on with it, cowboy!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 3, 2023 11:36 pm

Publish about Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria and get retracted, cancelled.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 11:37 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
June 3, 2023 at 11:28 pm

and opinions are like arseholes

and the Cat already has one of those.

Oh God.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Go & take a running screw at yourself, you snivelling little dago

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 11:41 pm

Why don’t you take a running hike yourself, you inbred white-trash filth.

Stop plussing people and stop blowharding you primitive inbred. No one believes your bullshit.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Why don’t you take a running hike yourself, you inbred white-trash filth.

No, and you haven’t got what it takes to make me, so you’ll have to sit there spitting on your screen, impotent.
& when did I become “white”?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Fair Shake’s comment stands – you can shove your failed attempt to denigrate it into the bottom of that boot full of shit.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 11:46 pm

No, and you haven’t got what it takes to make me, so you’ll have to sit there spitting on your screen, impotent.
& when did I become “white”?

You’re definitely yellow . A coward really, that needs to blowhard and bullshit about himself. It’s a despicable character flaw, obviously caused by inbreeding.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 11:48 pm

Fair Shake’s comment stands – you can shove your failed attempt to denigrate it into the bottom of that boot full of shit.

Go clean the pool, you whitetrash dickhead. We’ve had enough of your bullshit and blowharding..

52 licenses and permits. LOL You lying, wretched excuse for a human being.

MatrixTransform
June 3, 2023 11:51 pm

JC clown-chief,

does lived experience which, you just told us is “bullshit”, include credentials like degrees, diplomas. post-grad etc ?

…or is that different?

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 11:53 pm

The ac repairman wants to get in on the act.

Trans, get lost. Everyone ignores you.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 11:55 pm

A German Canuck really kicked the crap out of that bogus Implicit Association Test.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8167921/

(Full text article is available – he pulls no punches).

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

You’re definitely yellow . A coward really, that needs to blowhard and bullshit about himself. It’s a despicable character flaw, obviously caused by inbreeding.

This has all the impact of a gnat flailing at an ironbark tree.

I’m so concerned by this type of talk, I’ll lose a helluva lot of sleep over this.

MatrixTransform
June 3, 2023 11:56 pm

take all the time you need you stupid man
like even, consult an expert
whose opinion of course, would apparently be bullshit too

don’t tell us … we’ll have to take yr word for it.
because … JC’s lived experience

…right?

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 11:56 pm

Lizzie

Become German bro, stop giving a crap about what people think of you.

It worked for Professor Ulrich Shimmack!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

We’ve had enough of your bullshit and blowharding..

Lol, you really do see me as superior to you.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 11:58 pm

I’m so concerned by this type of talk,

We know. You even bullshit about who owned the pub, you dishonest clown. You’re a worthless whitetrash fraud and have been all your life.

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 12:00 am

Lol, you really do see me as superior to you.

Lol. Seriously, you couldn’t even get a vagrant on Skid Row to think they were inferior to you. You’re a fraud and it’s ingrained in your miserable and diabolical character.

Alamak!
Alamak!
June 4, 2023 12:01 am
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

You even bullshit about who owned the pub

I’ve never made any secret of who owns it.
What does your failing mind now tell you I said about who owns it?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Seriously, you couldn’t even get a vagrant on Skid Row to think they were inferior to you. You’re a fraud and it’s ingrained in your miserable and diabolical character.

This is stray dog behaviour – yep you see yourself as failing to measure up to me, you believe you’re inadequate.

You may be correct in that belief.

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 12:03 am

I’ve never made any secret of who owns it.
What does your failing mind now tell you I said about who owns it?

Of course you have and it’s not you. He’s long gone and what a roughhead too. 🙂

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Of course you have and it’s not you.

Citation required.

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 12:06 am

This is stray dog behaviour – yep you see yourself as failing to measure up to me, you believe you’re inadequate.

You may be correct in that belief.

This is a typical example of the delusions you hold about yourself and it comes out with those other examples like the GST nonsense and the 52 licenses. You’re entire life is a lie. You fraud.

MatrixTransform
June 4, 2023 12:07 am

I love the way JC argues himself into a hole

as if his mouth can’t scoop enough dirt every time he opens it

the ‘AC repairman’ and the ‘pub owner’ (who of course have less lived experience), cheerfully help him dig it

how’s that ‘hole’ argument from authority thing going for you JC?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I love the way JC argues himself into a hole

It’s a fryggin cockhead.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 4, 2023 12:11 am

Surprise of the week (the Hun):

Former Hawthorn welfare manager Jason Burt’s camp has hit out at an open letter from the families at the centre of the club’s racism saga, claiming their allegations “are wrong” and that they had been seeking cash.

Of course.

The First Nations families – which includes four-time premiership player Cyril Rioli and wife Shannyn Ah Sam-Rioli – allege they were victims of racism at the club, that some were forcibly separated, and one claims they were urged to have an abortion.

But they just wanted their ‘stories heard.’ Okay.

Responding to the letter late on Friday night, Burt – via his lawyer Tony Hargreaves – admonished the allegations that were detailed in the letter as “wrong”.

“It is simply not true that the complainants have not been seeking financial compensation,” the statement said.

And:

“The AFL had thousands of documents from Hawthorn and detailed information from me, Alastair and Chris which showed that their allegations were wrong,” the statement from Burt’s camp said.

“Jason has always been willing to meet with the complainants. The only thing he asked for before meeting with them was access to the Hawthorn documents that the lawyers for the complainants refused to release until late last week.

“The allegations the complainants have made are wrong.”

And also:

He also detailed the “anguish and hurt” experienced by his family “throughout this ordeal and likely into the future”.

The group of former Hawks players and staff have also pledged to take their fight as far as they need to in order to feel heard, declaring they would be willing to “end up in the Federal Court”.

Burt’s team said he would be more than willing to partake in any further legal proceedings.

I may have mentioned this earlier – if you want to swing, you need the chin. In the immortal words of Kurt Russell in Tombstone – ‘You called down the thunder, well now you’ve got it.’

Brilliant. Flayed skin on the castle walls stuff.

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 12:11 am

Trans and driller teaming up. Cute as a button.

You two miserable losers deserve each other.

“Post hoc” and very, very “nebulous”, I say.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I’ve a feeling we’ll get a helluva lot of swearing, some coarse insults, a litany various names called, but no actual … y’know… citation… that I don’t own the pub.

Or.. situation normal, his mouth has written a cheque his bank account can’t cash.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Speaking of cheques that bounce, this is the bigshot who folded like a cheap suit when his bluff was called on a bet.

Turned out the big chequebook wasn’t so big & bold after all.

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 12:15 am

I’ve a feeling we’ll get a helluva lot of swearing, some coarse insults, a litany various names called, but no actual … y’know… citation… that I don’t own the pub.

Or.. situation normal, his mouth has written a cheque his bank account can’t cash.

Driller, you told us once in a drunk fit that your roughhead brother does. You probably don’t even own the clothes on your back.

You need citations, yea, you defaming piece of garbage. How about the 52 licenses and permits citation, you worthless blowhard.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

You need citations, yea, you defaming piece of garbage

Nerve hit. Bullseye.
This is his way of conceding there won’t be any citation.

Or if you like, his way of saying, he just got called on a bluff & had nothing. Heh.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 4, 2023 12:18 am

Looks like its another JC scroll night.

Sorry bloke, I’ll just pass on bye.

MatrixTransform
June 4, 2023 12:19 am

the bigshot

I wonder how his capital gains problem is going

like … did he have to take a second mortgage on his soul?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I wonder how his capital gains problem is going

Who cares.
I’ll wait for a citation of evidence that I don’t own the pub.

That could take a while – order in a pallet of single malt.

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 12:22 am

Toad, I never started it. The human garbage bin did.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Toad, I never started it. The human garbage bin did.

Funny how nobody else ever has to say this.
Only one arsehole has a foul mouth, bad manners & goes around calling others names.
Yet it’s someone else’s fault.

Piece of shit.

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 12:26 am

Driller, you know we can’t do that, because it’s doxxing. But we all know you don’t own a pub and you’ve been bullshitting now for over a decade. Unfortunately it was your blowharding that gave it away. Funny as. You big stupid delusional clown.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 4, 2023 12:28 am

JC you drive it.

Whomp into a pint of scotch and play 301 on the dart board.

It’s soothing.

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 12:29 am

Only one arsehole has a foul mouth, bad manners & goes around calling others names.

Oh yea,

dago

Piece of shit

All I did was mock the plussing.

Fact is that what I say about you is true. You’re a total fraud and blowhard. No one believes any of the claims you make because you lie.

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 12:31 am

Toad

All I did was take him for a ride because of the plussing. He then goes apeshit and the rest is history. This fraud is in no position to be plussing anyone.

MatrixTransform
June 4, 2023 12:34 am

dago

oh shut up Toro
you’re exactly as much Italian as I am Irish

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

you know we can’t do that, because it’s doxxing.

You don’t know who I am, where I am, what the pub is called.
Or even if it is a pub, or even in Qld.
You don’t know if I’m a publican, cane farmer, underground miner, surgeon, streetsweeper, or Lord Mayor of Adelaide.

That’s your problem. Suck it up girl.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Fact is that what I say about you is true.

Yet you’re unable to back any of your claims.

You’re a total fraud and blowhard.

What a stupid comment.

No one believes any of the claims you make because you lie.

You’ve no idea what anybody thinks – & you’ve yet to identify one lie.

Suck it up girl. You need to learn some manners – clearly your parents didn’t have what it takes to teach you any.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

arsehole, dago, piece of shit.

“Waa waa waa, I’m always in lotsa stoushes, yet none of it is my doing, I’m an innocent little virgin who never offends anybody.”

Crybaby.

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 12:39 am

Of course we know you’re not a publican, you delusional blowharding buffoon. We also know there was never 52 licenses and permits. You’re a fraud.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Of course we know you’re not a publican

Of course you do.

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