This angel doesn’t look particularly holy or compliant either. No. She looks like a very naughty girl. Of a type…
This angel doesn’t look particularly holy or compliant either. No. She looks like a very naughty girl. Of a type…
The Aussies always have problems with swing, India is the side who currently has the biggest swinging balls.
What does holy or compliant look like Lizzie?
Ozzies 4-19 chasing 534. Magnificent stuff.
Household income in Disasterstan has fallen behind Taxmania for the first time, according to an extensive audit of the state’s…
The last time I was there, in January 2020 with jupes and Doc Beaugan, all the aesthetically pleasing young women were dressed like 1960s hippee chicks.
Wunderbar. 🙂
“I’ve been so angry re the whole BRS saga over the last couple of days “
You’re not alone, we all feel the same. I saw my mother today and she’s furious. It is just outrageous. I wish he hadn’t pursued this defamation case.
I think BRS should leave this country.
Ooops! Apologies Cats, it was 2019.
bat flu insanity twisting my melon, man (again) … 😕
I regret to say I have never met an Ellie Mae, Cohenite.
Albanese mobbed by locals while sampling beer, banh mi
Got the particulars, paywalled.
My 2c worth is Ben is very likely overstating said mobbing of Sleazy in the true tongue bath mode the media are stuck in. Unless of course sleazy allowed it to be dropped in said bar rather than be incognito that he was the Aussie PM which I also wouldn’t put past him.
Here’s the skinny on the Roberts-Smith failure:
STFU crotchless; that garbage is via the turdball times. Now, answer the question: did person 12:
1 shoot the dog
2 shoot the prisoner
3 1&2
4 neither
Rent a crowd, wonder how much they cost. Hopefully he doesn’t make like Rudd and stiff them for the bill.
I have , Entropy.
But I’m a better shot.
Whaaaaaat The Clink Freo has closed?
SMH has context. Yup, easy rent a crowd in a country from my experience that’s people generally have a high opinion of Uc da loi…
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/banh-mi-beer-and-friendship-on-the-menu-for-anthony-albanese-in-vietnam-20230603-p5ddmt.html
I was about to make the same statement. I don’t think conservatives can take much of the credit for this. I write that not to be provocative, but if we assume the credit due to others, we’ll start to believe there is no urgent, existential need to compete rather than simply observe, in the competition for influence. Both in professional sport and business, you need to be standing on the field/in the market, in order to compete. Competition is a pre-requisite for winning. Winning is the maintenance and stabilisation of the values and institutions gifted to us by our forebears.
One thing I’m certain of at least, Kenny is secretly married to Marcia Langton.
In any just world they’d have beaten the living crap out of him, before going all HOP Time™ on his house sized backside.
Or treating him to a Pinochet style Helicopter jaunt.
It is like the old joke about the kid having a pork chop ties around his neck so the dogs would play with him.
But Albo has our money when he travels.
#communistswine
Well, just watched the Battle of Little Big Horn on Gem.
Obviously sanitised for the viewers, possibly shot in Montana, but I doubt it. It took me back to that sad hillside, late in the afternoon, the shadows lengthening on the grass and the little markers, showing where the men fell.
Dover please ban this none binary.
Or exile it to the Adelaide Hills.
YouTube will stop removing false presidential election fraud claims.
Why? Are they taking a small step towards the light?
No – they are clearing the decks ready for an avalanche of claims of electoral fraud by Democrats when Biden loses in 2024.
Watch for more reversals to allow Democrats to do everything that they condemn the Right for.
Pianoman testing the exit doors on the war?
Possible negotiated cessation of hostilities?
Another li’l factlet about Luigi the Munificent* is that once he leaves politics, Grayndler is goin’ greenfilth.
As is Sydney, once Plibbers’ almighty jowls decree they need to “spend more time with the family”.
*With OPM
thanks cats.
any hotel recommendations?
Esplanade Hotel Fremantle ?
A moral sense is like a sense of humour, the one you are born with is pretty primitive, but it evolves and developes as you grow older. Some cultures are more conducive to development than others. It’s pretty clear that some people spontaneously laugh at things others don’t find funny, but enough people make a living as comedians to strongly suggest that there is a fair bit of agreement that some things are funny and others are not.
If you replace funny and not funny with good and bad respectively, you get the same result. There’s a fair amount of agreement, and a certain amount of dissent.
As to what ‘objective’ means, well, you’d have to be a bit weird to deny that jokes exist.
A moral sense is like a sense of humour, the one you are born with is pretty primitive, but it evolves and developes as you grow older.
I think that is a very elegant summation.
Noooooo
South Korea: Say no to Micron’s share in China and Sides with the U.S., Japan, and Taiwan/Sharp turn
China Insights
In the last episode, we covered the story of this matter and concluded that the CCP’s move was intended to use Micron’s vacated market in China to drive a wedge between the U.S. and its allies and put the U.S.-led coalition against the CCP to the test. For example, they offered the vacated share of Micron in the memory chip market to South Korea’s Samsung or SK Hynix as a lure.
Once the CCP uses its military power to attack Taiwan, the global economy will be greatly affected for sure, and no one can stay intact, away from it. South Korea will definitely be the first to bear the impact. At this critical moment, if South Korea doesn’t opt for the U.S. side, it would face a major or lethal risk in the event of a conflict.
being a ten pound tourist (1967) I approached Stan’s TEN POUND POMS with an open mind .. now closed! .. duuuh!
Tho, to my credit I did watch all of episode 1 before the, inevitable, flick …….!
I can’t comment much on the arrival in Oz because this is about a family emigrating and I was single so the “welcome to country” was different .. In fact, as a single migrant the last time I saw anyone official from Oz involved in migration was the bloke who handed me my boarding tix at Qantas office in Kings Cross, London .. for me arrival was Qantas flight 21 via NY, SF & Honolulu & Nadi arriving Mascot on a Sunday morning @ 5.15am ..No photos, ID checks or anything else just thru customs and ….. yez on yez own ..!
Anywayz, back to the “show” .. once they are on dry land, Circular Quay, we leapz straight into the Oz “larrikin” pom-baiting guff .. never fails with these shows but, apparently, early morning Sunday was too soon for officialdom to be alive with dry witicizums from my personal experience …..
Sooooo, it’s off to the migrant hostel which seemed to be up in the Blue Mountains somewhere but manages to also be a quick drive to the beach, as well as that far out in the bush that hordes of kangas hop alongside for company .. I’m guessin’ we is playing the OS sales market bit here ….!
Can’t comment on the camp/hostel as I never experienced living in one … tho I was aware there was a big one out at Matraville back in my early dayz ….
After that we is treated to several dayz life and dramas of a migrant family & associates .. the TV types that just don’t occur in real life replete wiv Oz vernacular that only happens in the script writer’s fertile imagination .. everyone hates/dislikes/finds amusing these “pommie bastards” as befits 1950s attitudes .. mind the poms get off light compared to the 251s in this script .. me? I’ve been here 56 years and I’ve never seen/heard 251s spoken too/or treated in the off hand manner they take for granted in episode 1 .. I’m, once again, guessin’, that a bit of racial prejudice adds $ signs to the OS sales pitch …..
I haven’t diverted into the ludicrous side plotz you need to watch to ……. understand .. duuuuh! ..
Personally, I think it would have been much moe realistic wiv a Jack Thompson quintessential Oz character doing the condescending slang he did/does sooo well!…. not sure if he’s dead or maybe too dear but we end up wiv the OAK FLAVOURED MILK bloke slurpin’ it for all he’s worth …..!
Me.? I gives it a, generous, 3/10 but …….. GO on give it a burl, ya knoze ya wants too … LOL!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20318226/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_4_nm_0_q_ten%2520pound%2520poms
Does Ben get free travel, bed and breakfast, to foment over his illustrious Il Douche Albanese, or does he just sit at home and regurgitate the official press release for his shilling.?
In Terry Pratchett’s discworld books, there is a fool’s guild which has standardised humour. There are officially approved jokes and the guild enforces humour by rules. Back on earth, we haven’t done that yet, but we, or the church, have tried to do it with morals.
It hasn’t been a huge success.
I’d guess ending the Uke war would be a vote winner for Trump.
So the Dems will try to tidy it up before the POTUS primaries begin in Feb `24.
Lewis (or, more exactly, his devil) talks about jokes and humour in The Screwtape Letters.
The take – Hell is austere and humourless. We get a taste of it with Woke and the culture of Offence.
Even Rowan Atkinson had something to say about it in his Free Speech address.
Manchester City V Internazionale
It will be a bloodbath Rabz. City by 4
Hey any and all tech savvy Cats here tonight. I need a little help please. I bought a laptop today so I may continue to lurk here during cold winter nights. My computer room come office is like a walk-in freezer this time of year.
The help I need is, not having a mouse, how do I grab and hold links and comments and tab headers so I may paste or link for all your kittehs pleasure and perusal? 😀
Any and all help and suggestions greatly appreciated.
He also talks about universal morality in Mere Christianity & The Abolition of Man.
New Radio Show is up, Cats! 🙂
You have a touchpad I presume, Pogria?
Select an item: Tap on the touchpad.
Scroll: Place two fingers on the touchpad and slide horizontally or vertically.
Zoom in or out: Place two fingers on the touchpad and pinch in or stretch out.
Show more commands (similar to right-clicking): Tap the touchpad with two fingers, or press in the lower-right corner.
“I hope the fool is similarly turfed after three years.”
Nup, not going to happen. Sadly, I don’t share your hope. Comparing 2023 to 1975 is like comparing apples and oranges. It was a different time, a different country, an homogenous country, with a strong middle class and Australians were much better educated. Australia in 2023 is a country replete with woke indoctrinated Marxists and migrants from third world shitholes that have been brought to this country to vote Labor.
Why do you think Labor wants to bring in over a million new migrants over the next few years? To fortify elections, that’s why.
Albanese mobbed by locals while sampling beer, banh mi
Someone spread a rumour he was from CentreLink carrying a boxful of sign-on forms …….
Install a wood heater in your office.
😀
(My laptop is similarly limited in functionality; I’ll check back for any advice given.)
Don’t be silly.
Immigration…Visas.
Can you plug in a mouse to your laptop?
I need those codes for emojis again, Rabz.
People keep taking my throw away lines seriously.
I only use my phone to access the cat.
Perfectly possible to link and cut and paste using phone.
Diogenes is the man to explain how.
Top Ender, thanks heaps.
I will be practicing directly. 😀
Fingers crossed.
“I hope the fool is similarly turfed after three years.”
Will it matter? .. we should know by now that all parties are cut from the same cloth .. looking after themselves …. every Fed election is the same regardless of stripes .. promises, promises, promises .. all conveniently forgotten or laffed at the morning after the counting is dun ………
How long before Albo is being ushered into RSLs with the Trot equivalent of Mummy bloggers?
Spokoynay nochi.
BB – I wouldn’t be so sure – Champs’ League Finals have a habit of producing some unexpected results.
See for example:
Bayern V Chelski 2012 at the Allianz Arena
AC Milan V Liverpool 2005 – aka, the “Miracle of Istanbul”
The Final this year being played at the same venue as the 2005 boilover. If Man City achieve the Treble then Pep is back to the sort of managerial mastery he hasn’t displayed since leaving Barcelona a decade ago. His time at Bayern for example, was a huge disappointment.
Yes of course the Irish reject the IRA which explains the devestating 11% increase in Sinn Fein votes at the last Federal election.
Yep, them Irish, balanced, selfless, not at all tools of globalism.
Oh, and regarding their WWII behaviour; they gave shelter to German submarines until Churchill threatened invasion. And yes, they arrested German spys when threatened by the Brits. The problem being that the first spy that they arrested was a Brit.
And, demonstrating their immutable understanding of evil, they made a very reasonable declaration of condolances to the German nation upon the death of Hitler.
Well , they aren’t. The LNP get all scared into doing SFA when in power. No conviction, no guts. Bunch of cowards. Whereas the Liars go full tilt at getting their agenda , maaates and OPM vote buying implemented.
Please. No wogball discussion or I’ll have to ask you to take your aperitifs outside.
And, like humour, the devil hates music also. Unless he can debase it, of course, but that is incredibly hard to do. Beautiful music always wins.
His servants, however, find it hard to bear.
AC Milan V Liverpool 2005 – aka, the “Miracle of Istanbul”
Aye. A most magnificent match. Jerzy Dudek
The Pepster in a pair of Copa Mundials during his time at Bayern München.
Legendary kicks. I have two unworn pairs, one black, one white.
Pogria, YouTube is your friend….
Yes, the aesthetic sense is very similar to the moral sense and the sense of humour; they all develope with exposure.
It’s not a fixed thing that we all observe, like the sun and moon, but it’s clearly there.. It’s as if we’re all climbing a mountain; we start from different places, we are at different heights, and nobody’s got to the top. But we know when we’ve got a step higher up.
The Gerrard – another adidas legend.
As a mighty Reds supporter, 2005 was all we had until the advent of die Klopp.
Pubs and Subs: rumour and reality of German U-boats in wartime Ireland
“Well , they aren’t. The LNP get all scared into doing SFA when in power. No conviction, no guts. Bunch of cowards. Whereas the Liars go full tilt at getting their agenda , maaates and OPM vote buying implemented.”
Correct, they aren’t cut from the same cloth, when Labor gets into power, they waste no time in implementing their agendas, even agendas they didn’t take to the electorate. Labor’s lies are blatant and they don’t give a stuff. The Liberals? Spineless, craven, cowardly, and pigeon-hearted cretins and mediocrities.
Top Ender.
I sent an email to you via Dover last night.
It may end up in your junk mail as it’s a funky address (the good addresses like ‘hotnerdymess’ were taken).
mRNA will be EVERYWHERE
BRS was IMHO badly advised.These proceedings were way to complicated to control .Too many issues girl friends, wife ,ex comrades,ex enemies ryc etc.
He was never going to win on all these issues.
Defamation proceedings need to be simple about limited issues.
Remember John Wren who sued for criminal libel arguing that Power without Glory painted his wife as an adulteress.In order to proceed he had to admit all the other stuff was true I.e. illegal gambling etc etc..His reputation never recovered.BRS was chasing too many rabbits
Here’s hoping. A blast from the past has risen from the tar-pit.
https://twitter.com/marilyn71518418?s=11&t=6bcsAnzSNsf4oiVFiftxdA
If this link works, hat-tip to Kae.
JC earlier.
Regarding potential class actions.
Yes, there is an element of cannibalism with shareholders suing the company, and could be seen as futile.
But the list of respondents could be widened to include external marketing consultants and suing employees personally.
How many CEOs would risk a clawback of options and bonuses for recklessly destroying shareholder value?
Maybe Bud Light isn’t the case, because the level of boycott is unprecedented.
But now that it has happened to Bud Light, no exec in future can claim, “Gee, I didn’t think it would tank sales that badly”.
Discovery in such cases would be a hoot.
Imagine grilling the ponytails about their risk analysis and market research into their current customer base as to the likely reaction to any proposed woke campaign.
Where did all the Variants come from? Vaccinated or Unvaccinated?
“Morsiesays:
June 3, 2023 at 7:38 pm”
I don’t disagree.
Maybe Mr Guardiola can take the reins of Carlton. Could not be any worse.
Their voters don’t expect much from them, and will continue to vote for them regardless of their efforts, so why exert oneself?
If I may be somewhat direct: Why open one’s fly and flop it out when one risks attention from passing seagulls?
Roger, cheeky, fire is in the lounge room.
Rosie, I have thought about that, yet to try it. Sitting here replete with lamb and shiraz. Don’t want to get up until the dogs need to go out.
Top Ender, you tube was going to be my next stop, thanks again.
LOL, Pogria – it seems ol’ habits do die hard …
The sort of incoherent staggering stupidity that could never be bottled. Just love the way it manages to namecheck the Ukes, Wussia, the ALPBC, Iraq and (cue spoookee muzak …) da Joooze.
Speaking of Carlton, I see Liam Jones playing good football at his first club, Bullflogs. Had to cop a year out for his refusal to be jabbed, and would be a contender for All Australian.
A Ted Lasso type scenario. They’d probably end up winning multiple premierships.
Incidentally, I note that the Pepster played himself in the current series of Ted Lasso.
Dr. Naomi Wolf: Pfizer’s Depopulation Agenda, As Evidenced By Its Own Documents Targets Reproductive Cycle of Women
Pogriasays:
June 3, 2023 at 7:39 pm
Here’s hoping. A blast from the past has risen from the tar-pit.
https://twitter.com/marilyn71518418?s=11&t=6bcsAnzSNsf4oiVFiftxdA
If this link works, hat-tip to Kae.
Mary-Loon Sheep-Head seems a trifle upset. She’ll bust a kerfoofle valve if she doesn’t calm down.
The End Of Free Speech Will Be The End Of America
Good on him, but what an act of bastardry by the ALPFL.
Zuck Loves Biden: Facebook Prevents RFK Jr. from Launching Instagram Campaign Account
The whole thing was a false flag, from beginning to end.
Doctored evidence? Democrat-led J6 panel added audio to silent security video for primetime hearings
When Green Energy Comes For Your Farm
Family of College Student Who Died From COVID-19 Vaccine Sues Biden Administration
I don’t imagine it will be any different here.
South Dakota Farmers Face Carbon-capture Land Theft
It’s as if Big John had never left the building.
With thanks to Indolent, and moreso to Musk – watched the Matt Walsh movie. Very good, and how come all these lefties and supposedly mainstream medicos cannot answer what a woman is.
Until the end, when his wife says “adult, human female”.
Hooray…
Kurt Schlicter in Townhall:
I’m struggling to identify why this seems familiar…
Aquinas would agree with calli and DrBeauGan about morality and a sense of humour. He thought that risibilitas was part of a morally sound personality – as long as you didn’t take it to the point of having a frivolous attitude to life.
No one is perfect.
The Irish never declared peace in our time and thousands still volunteered to fight as British soldiers.
The spite old IRA men had is not what the average Irish man felt.
de Valera never went to a classical music recital with Hitler nor did the Irish* have a significant black shirt movement nor a Lord Haw Haw figure.
The Irish had a choice with Churchill’s ultimatum and they could have asked Germany for help.
They didn’t.
*Joyce was a very conflicted American with Irish roots (mixed denomination heritage but pro Union Protestant) and English relatives who was a British soldier and very likely a Black and Tan informer – and ultimately a black shirt and Nazi German citizen.
Rising Sinn Fein votes are on the back of the DUP boycotting the NI Parliament and the 2020 Irish Republic vote was high as a protest vote by younger voters: unification, housing prices and left wing ideas like being anti austerity (a tragic result of public education).
Those voters aren’t joining the IRA’s many splinter groups.
There has been an unexpected death in difficult circumstances in my extended family, I am somewhat removed from the situation but it’s always hard news for those who are near and dear.
A reminder too that we know not the hour or the day.
PS No condolences necessary.
EARLY ACCESS Ed Dowd – Excess Deaths & Why RFK Jr. Can Win The Democratic Presidential Race
Thanks rosie.
I see, by the way, that the Stalinist Hunchback of Spring Street has had to back down on the imposition of payroll tax on non-government schools.
No thanks to Victoria’s useless excuse for an opposition, of course. But there are an awful lot of leftist hypocrites in Victoria who oppose private education in principle but send their own kids to private schools. Chairman Dan is one of them, and the others must have been whinging in his oversized ears.
Rumour going round in NQ that Mike Brunker ALP head kicker round the Whitsundays and Whitsunday Council may be in a tad of bother with the ALP friendly CCC.
Here’s hoping this expands.
All good, rosie. Condolences can be expressed in upticks.
Tonight I had the best burger I’ve ever had in Oz.
From a food truck on the side of Canterbury Road, Belmore.
Thank God for the Irish; it was an Irishman who defeated Emperor le Nosey.
Muddy, I feel your pain. I have been sitting on research about the post-Roman writer Gildas, knowing that I have to say what I think about the misdating of his floruit and all that follows from that, but it is an incredibly complicated tale of datings, misdatings, and confusions over a document that is extremely confusing to start with in an historical situation that is fraught with differing opinions about what was going on.
I decided a week ago that I was going to knock some shape into it, send it to Hairy’s barrister friend in England who knows this stuff and who wants to read it, and keep it to a length suitable for a publishable article, not a book chapter, which must come later. This makes me prune it to its essence. That’s a good discipline and I suggest you try to do that same. Keep it as though you are writing for the Cat audience and don’t get above them or talk down to them or become too simplistic for them. A tough call. Eight or quarto pages maximum, even less if your material can be readily condensed. You don’t have to get every little thing in, and beware over overwriting and also of repetition.
Hairy sometimes reads my stuff as an outside observer, the man on the Clapham Omnibus lol, and lets me know if it is not clear enough for him. Maybe Top Ender could do the same for you. It really helps.
Good luck and I hope you wish me the same.
Lifted below from post at Jo Nova. As poster mentioned you can read it online or buy copies. I was sent a copy by somebody who bought 5,000 to give out. It is getting around and they printed 250,000 of latest edition.
The Light Australia – Being Paid for and Distributed By Volunteers – A Grass Roots Movement With Mass Impacts
I discovered The Light Australia today. The site is accessible and all issues are downloadable from this link (below). Some articles are Australia-specific, others are applicable everywhere! What a brilliant movement! Businesses are distributing it; volunteers are door dropping it; people are sharing it.
https://thelightaustralia.com/
The Light Australia – Being Paid for and Distributed By Volunteers – A Grass Roots Movement With Mass Impacts
I can’t see a form letters section on their website.
So it’s an initial thumbs up from me.
Must have started at lunch.
Thanks for the advice, Lizzie. I have been vacillating (is that a word?) for so long, I think I need to acknowledge the limit of my abilities, and hope that such acknowledgement does not bruise my already fragile ego too much. My strengths lie in research, hence my plea the other night for someone to adopt one of my toddler manuscripts.
Being a history nerd, I’m always keen to read the product of your passions on English and classical topics.
Didn’t get it Muddy, and it’s not in spam. Make sure you send it to my gmail address, not Bigpond – I left Telstra due to their server problems some months ago. I’ll check Dover has the right one.
Looking at that Mary-Loon thread, while many of us here are disappointed with the SFLs, look at her bitter rejection of pretty much every party, with the possible exception of the Slime/commos (BIRM).
Top Ender.
I emailed it to Dover and asked him to pass it on, rather than asking for your address first. Perhaps it’s slipped into Dover’s spam filter.
Lord Dover.
Have you received my email for Top Ender please? Thanks.
Some real stories and data, not feelings.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/arid-20350818.html
***While Dr MacCarthy’s* story is incredible it is only one of many remarkable accounts of what happened to the Irishmen and women who chose to serve in the British armed forces during the Second World War. The Irish state was officially neutral but Britain owed a huge debt to the Irish people who fought on the Allied side. Some 70,000 citizens of Ireland served in the British armed forces during the war, together with another 50,000 from Northern Ireland.***
*Irish medical Dr, joined the RAF in 1939, was a POW of the Japanese and survived an atomic bombing. Sunk three times as either an evacuee or POW. Earnt the George Medal, outside of combat with the enemy.
OK, we’ve got the horse. Where’s the dog?
OK, we’ve got the horse. Where’s the dog?
Shit. Keyboard again..
#communistswine
Would this be the pic you had in mind Rabz?
And I have it on the footy, Neale Daniher is still fighting the Beast as he calls it, Motor Neurone Disease. The bloke can’t speak so has one of those things Hawking uses to communicate. Just a humble bloke trying to change shit for the betterment of others. He knows he will perish, but it’s taken a long time for him to succumb to something which takes its victims mostly within 3 years of diagnosis.
Phucking champion
“de Valera never went to a classical music recital with Hitler “
No, de Valera just signed a condolence book on hearing of Hitler’s suicide.
Well, he signed the condolence book, anyway.
A forest was also planted in his memory outside Tel Aviv.
A bit like Albanese, in that there was mystery about the identity of his pappy, shipboard romance the cover story.
Anyway, my favorite story of the auld warrior [he hid under a bed in the Dublin Post Office for 3 days while a rebellion, which he had fomented, raged on]
was during his time as President of the Irish Republic.
He was attending amateur boxing matched at Madison Square Garden between Irish and American boxers when a riot broke out over a decision.
For some reason he stood up [rather than hide under a chair] and caught a flying beer bottle in the back of the head.
Word.
Reposted, in full, and for excellence. DBG at 2.07 today:
This. This is exactly right.
Bit of Combat Rock for Saturday night… I give you The Clash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ9r8LMU9bQ
I am not defending that. It’s not possible to defend.
It is absurd to damn all Irish people when the immediately former British monarch and Prime Minister had such poor judgment regarding the Nazis as well.
If the Irish “tolerate” the IRA, America “tolerates” the Weather Underground, Antifa, BLM…
It’s such a damned absurdity to make out your average Irish citizen is like an Afghan secretly supporting the Taliban.
It’s absurd.
Interesting views from Irish people
https://www.quora.com/How-do-people-in-the-Republic-of-Ireland-feel-about-the-IRA
1.
If you mean today in 2017, 19 years after the signing of the Good Friday Agreement by all major parties in Northern Ireland and with a functioning if fragile democracy in place in the north, then I would say the vast majority of the people of Ireland (99%) believe the IRA is no longer necessary and should either disband completely or at least cease all violent and illegal activities.
However if you were to go back 20 or 30 years the situation would not be so clear cut. Prior to 1998, due to a system of gerrymandering there was no true democratic representation for Catholics in Northern Ireland.
This had been the case since the formation of the Irish Free State and the partition of the Island in 1922. Civil rights marches by Catholics had been tried in Northern Ireland in the late 60’s and early 70’s but had been either banned or broken up by the police.
In such a situation, where civil rights are being withheld from a population and the peaceful means that have been tried have been met with government-backed violence, many people will concede that armed struggle if not inevitable, will be the most likely outcome.
Having said that, during the period of the troubles, the IRA were never supported by a majority of the people of Ireland.
2.
Assuming we’re talking about the PIRA and its various offshoots during and after the Troubles, generally very negatively, with the exception of a minority. Most folks here have no more time for the IRA’s terrorism and criminal activities than they do for any other sort of terrorists.
A minority of folks (generally Sinn Fein supporters, that party having effectively been the IRA’s PR department before the current peace) feel more positively towards the IRA. Their justification of it tends to centre around notions that “there was a war going on”. If you call them on the various acts of terrorism the IRA committed, the responses vary – attacks on the security forces in the North, they tend to consider “legitimate targets”/”war something something”. For the more heinous stuff, they tend to either just admit that was wrong (a more modern development), or some variation of it was collateral damage/the Brits made them do it, describe it as “unauthorised” action, or outright pretend it wasn’t the IRA (a fairly common tactic during the Troubles especially – the IRA would only take credit for activities that it felt put it in a good light).
The dissident Republican offshoots of the IRA (the CIRA/Real IRA, etc), have very little support at all in the Republic nowadays, including amongst Sinn Fein members. Sinn Fein folks’ support for the IRA is historical (though quite recent history) at this point; the PIRA has ended their “armed struggle” and Sinn Fein is very much into the peace process. They’ll still usually stand over most of the things the IRA did during the Troubles, mind you.
For a lot more detail and background (on the early days of the Troubles especially, which I’m not as familiar with), see several excellent answers to this question (I haven’t merged them as the other question seem to be inquiring more towards government support):
3. (Why do Brits keep saying that the US funded the IRA?)
Not just Brits. I’m Irish, from a Republican background, want a United Ireland and live in a Northern Irish nationalist town. You did fund the IRA. They also knew your security services were far less on the ball than those in the UK, so they did a lot of planning, recruiting and weapons dealing in America. Whether it was incompetence or collusion on the part of your secret services I don’t know. But look up Noraid and its role in funding the IRA, what your politicians supported. You guys have and had no clue what it was like living here with the mess you made sticking your noses in. It was bad enough without American influence. You’ll probably think all Irish Nationalists were pro IRA. No. We aren’t and weren’t. If it hadn’t been for America we could have had a more peaceful island years earlier, the situation wouldn’t have escalated, some people I know wouldn’t have died, my father wouldn’t have been shot at and we’d never have been bombed out of our home.
This requires context:
A fortnight before Hitler’s death, de Valera made no such visit to the US delegation to offer condolences on the passing of President Roosevelt, or to sign condolence book.
Furthermore: de Valera refused to attend a memorial service for President Roosevelt. (Words have meanings, de Valera did not decline, her refused to attend.)
Maybe de Valera should have taken up Churchill’s offer of Irish unity in exchange for an alliance and mobilisation. I think Churchill truly did not have the power to grant this to Ireland. He was very popular for most of the war but but one man out of hundreds in the Commons, let alone the hundreds of Lords, as well as the King and Ulster Unionists. On the other hand de Valera might have just been expressing his bitter clinger sentiments.
“It is absurd to damn all Irish people when the immediately former British monarch and Prime Minister had such poor judgment regarding the Nazis as well.”
I don’t and I never have “damned all Irish people”.
However, it is worth nothing that perhaps the most anti-Semitic country in Europe in 2023 is the Republic of Ireland.
It wasn’t you.
Why is that so?
If it goes back to the BDS stuff, we have a BDS sympathetic PM with BDS sympathetic cabinet Ministers.
The saddest thing about this to me is that these people are useful idiots of a country that doesn’t exist anymore, fighting a proxy war for it to antagonise the West (that dead country being the USSR). The USSR obviously had no interest in genuinely supporting either Zionism or pan Arab nationalism, at least not permanently.
The Irish have the largest diaspora of any ethnic group outside as of the Jewish people (as a proportion). It’s be bigger than the Jews if you count Israel as the base, but you had the holocaust. There are around 5 million Jews in Israel and 17 million Jews in the world.
There are ~5 million Irish is Ireland and around 75 million around the world who claim direct Irish descent. Big crowd.
Anthony Quinn was Mexican Irish. How the hell did Irish end up in Mexico. 🙂
“Why is that so?”
I do think anti-Semitism runs deep in some sections of Irish republicanism (though not all), as to why, I don’t know, there are several theories. I’m not unsympathetic to Irish nationalism, I also understand why the IRA gained such a foothold in Northern Island, because the way the Catholic minority (it’s no longer a minority) was treated by the the Unionists was disgusting, Catholics in Northern Ireland were second class citizens and they were treated appallingly, pogroms by Unionists against Catholics were not unusual. But the behaviour and actions of the IRA were (and still are) appalling, and what’s worse, the actions of the IRA, Gerry Adams and others have been conveniently whitewashed.
It was the British who f*cked things up in Northern Island. When they sent the army in, many Ulster Catholics originally supported the arrival of the British army, only to be bitterly disappointed.
As for World War II and Nazis, there were many Irish Catholics who enlisted to help the Britain and kol hakavod to them.
OL – thanks for breaking this very interesting piece of news.
That the grotesque deformed jug eared fascist imbecile backed down on the above is unexpected.
Hopefully, Outsiders will run loudly and strongly with this tomorrow morning.
This is a demographically diabolical population stat.
In a decade it lost ~20% of its population. That’s bound to really screw you up psychologically.
I can’t think of a country that hasn’t experienced population growth since the 1800s other than Ireland. Incredible.
And only two, two joined the Waffen SS.
Cassie – the Oirish have always run their own race, unlike the Welsh and the Scots who weren’t blessed with that distance from the mainland.
I tried to have a phone conversation with my Oirish workmate on Thursday and yet again, the phone proved not to be an “ideal” way to communicate with someone possessing a strong Oirish accent.
🙁
err, JC, would not a proportion of that population loss have included the emigrants to North America?
I’m always leery of potato famine rewriting, to be sure, to be sure.
Anyway, I’d rather look at and listen to a brunette siren being (inadvertently) politically incorrect … 🙂
I understand BRS was dispatched to the location where they trouble occurred in response to an Afghan soldier trained by Aus troops shooting dead 3 Aus soldiers. The missions after were highly charged emotionally. They caught the perpetrator and he was held in a local prison after being tried and condemned to death. Subsequently released by Taliban with no objection from US as no American was injured / killed. One big shit show all round and we pull out a violation ticket on one of our own. We are fwits. Led by our left media.
Gee that’s a big number in the US. 40% of Jews live in the US and 40% in Israel.
AKA: “If you weren’t there, you don’t get an opinion…”
err Rabz, I myself didn’t mention the loss was death from the famine. I just suggested losing 20% of your population in a decade is pretty significant. Many other countries had large diasporas but none appear to be sitting on a population stat now lower than 1850. That’s pretty incredible.
And move they did in huge numbers.
Yep and there’s the difference, at least some of it ignoring net population gains through birth.
More than any country in Eastern Europe, for example? And is Russia considered part of Europe these days?
Sorry Duk, but I don’t buy that. That’s a version of the lived experience nonsense we see here being floated by some of the folks of lessor intellect and appear to operate through instinct rather than a brian.
The Australian military answers to civilian government and our civilian government makes the damned rules. That’s in no way suggesting anything about BRS.
“We’re” also not witness to any crime that occurs in the country. But that doesn’t mean we can’t adjudicate a crime and take action through criminal courts.
The lived experience argument is bullshit.
Shakes – the personage you speak of above is the Hekmatullah.
Livin’ large in Stan after having shot three Ozzies in the back from point blank range.
We are too soft and stupid for our own good.
For exactly just how long does humanitee think it can tolerate islam, an idiotology that is even more evil and toxic than communism and nayzeeism combined?
Hint – we’re now up to many, many centuries of stupidly doing so …
brain.
What do you do when the LGBT coercion gets personal?
Demoralization: What Yuri Bezmenov Didn’t Tell You
JC – BRS is now being gleefully denounced in the braindead lamestream meeja as a murderer.
You should be able to recognise that if he wasn’t previously defamed, courtesy of Bonkersanko’s learned judgement then now he is, in spades.
Let’s see some actual criminal trial worthy evidence, you collectivist quisling scum – and if you can’t, then Stokesy and BRS get the $25 million back and I joyously gift you with some glorious and long overdue HOP Time™.
Resulting in winners all round 🙂
+1
Rabz
I was responding to Duk’s lived experience claim: not what’s happened to BRS.
I believe BRS is being buried in bullshit claims despite getting the all clear from the research that was done when nominated for a medal.
Having said that, civilian government sets the rules for the military. Period.
Oh God. The plussing commences.
Fair shake
If that’s what happened, Australia should have pulled the troops out the very second the criminal was released.
Roberts-Smith is referred to as ‘soldier-villain’ in today’s Australian, so it’s pretty tongue in cheek, he went for the big payout and ended up on his arse and I’d say that’s the end of him as a public figure.
He’ll probably show up either a a Bouncer somewhere or a member of the Northern Territory Constabulary.
My advice to anyone who runs into Ben:
Start praying.
Then expect many more “sub optimal outcomes” for all concerned – civilians, the soldiery and the enemy, who should always be slaughtered on (or out of) sight, armed or unarmed.
Soft and stupid. We’re up against enemies that may be staggeringly stupid (e.g. moozleys and chinamen) but they ain’t soft.
As we’ll soon no doubt discover.
P.S.
It’s too bad World Championship Wresting folded, because I reckon
Ben Roberts-Smith and Zack Rolfe as Heels versus, say, Killer Karl Kox and Spiros Arion would bring the house down.
Particularly if Killer Karl applied The BrainBuster to Benny.
Cue the Ben Roberts-Smith Morning Show running on channel Stokesy until at least 2040 (if the latter doesn’t go tits up in the meantime).
Thanks, Eddles.
Rabz
That’s how our system works. The military is not a law onto itself. It reports to the government of the day, as it should.
Go & take a running screw at yourself, you flaccid hors d’oeuver frankfurtini
opinions are all they get
and opinions are like arseholes
and the Cat already has one of those.
Get a life, armchair War Heroes.
Ben Roberts-Smith is probably a SitzPinkler anyway.
Forgive me for making you angry, Driller, but a lot of us find your primitive ways and fraudulent comments to be a disgrace here. The plussing included. Rather than plussing people, you ought to be posting some of those 52 magical licenses and permits you claimed to have satisfied inorder to catch up to AI’s 6. Chop chop, get on with it, cowboy!
Publish about Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria and get retracted, cancelled.
Oh God.
Go & take a running screw at yourself, you snivelling little dago
Why don’t you take a running hike yourself, you inbred white-trash filth.
Stop plussing people and stop blowharding you primitive inbred. No one believes your bullshit.
No, and you haven’t got what it takes to make me, so you’ll have to sit there spitting on your screen, impotent.
& when did I become “white”?
Fair Shake’s comment stands – you can shove your failed attempt to denigrate it into the bottom of that boot full of shit.
You’re definitely yellow . A coward really, that needs to blowhard and bullshit about himself. It’s a despicable character flaw, obviously caused by inbreeding.
Go clean the pool, you whitetrash dickhead. We’ve had enough of your bullshit and blowharding..
52 licenses and permits. LOL You lying, wretched excuse for a human being.
JC clown-chief,
does lived experience which, you just told us is “bullshit”, include credentials like degrees, diplomas. post-grad etc ?
…or is that different?
The ac repairman wants to get in on the act.
Trans, get lost. Everyone ignores you.
A German Canuck really kicked the crap out of that bogus Implicit Association Test.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8167921/
(Full text article is available – he pulls no punches).
This has all the impact of a gnat flailing at an ironbark tree.
I’m so concerned by this type of talk, I’ll lose a helluva lot of sleep over this.
take all the time you need you stupid man
like even, consult an expert
whose opinion of course, would apparently be bullshit too
don’t tell us … we’ll have to take yr word for it.
because … JC’s lived experience
…right?
Lizzie
Become German bro, stop giving a crap about what people think of you.
It worked for Professor Ulrich Shimmack!
Lol, you really do see me as superior to you.
We know. You even bullshit about who owned the pub, you dishonest clown. You’re a worthless whitetrash fraud and have been all your life.
Lol. Seriously, you couldn’t even get a vagrant on Skid Row to think they were inferior to you. You’re a fraud and it’s ingrained in your miserable and diabolical character.
One rule – ELE!
I’ve never made any secret of who owns it.
What does your failing mind now tell you I said about who owns it?
This is stray dog behaviour – yep you see yourself as failing to measure up to me, you believe you’re inadequate.
You may be correct in that belief.
Of course you have and it’s not you. He’s long gone and what a roughhead too. 🙂
Citation required.
This is a typical example of the delusions you hold about yourself and it comes out with those other examples like the GST nonsense and the 52 licenses. You’re entire life is a lie. You fraud.
I love the way JC argues himself into a hole
as if his mouth can’t scoop enough dirt every time he opens it
the ‘AC repairman’ and the ‘pub owner’ (who of course have less lived experience), cheerfully help him dig it
how’s that ‘hole’ argument from authority thing going for you JC?
It’s a fryggin cockhead.
Surprise of the week (the Hun):
Of course.
But they just wanted their ‘stories heard.’ Okay.
And:
And also:
I may have mentioned this earlier – if you want to swing, you need the chin. In the immortal words of Kurt Russell in Tombstone – ‘You called down the thunder, well now you’ve got it.’
Brilliant. Flayed skin on the castle walls stuff.
Trans and driller teaming up. Cute as a button.
You two miserable losers deserve each other.
“Post hoc” and very, very “nebulous”, I say.
I’ve a feeling we’ll get a helluva lot of swearing, some coarse insults, a litany various names called, but no actual … y’know… citation… that I don’t own the pub.
Or.. situation normal, his mouth has written a cheque his bank account can’t cash.
Speaking of cheques that bounce, this is the bigshot who folded like a cheap suit when his bluff was called on a bet.
Turned out the big chequebook wasn’t so big & bold after all.
Driller, you told us once in a drunk fit that your roughhead brother does. You probably don’t even own the clothes on your back.
You need citations, yea, you defaming piece of garbage. How about the 52 licenses and permits citation, you worthless blowhard.
Nerve hit. Bullseye.
This is his way of conceding there won’t be any citation.
Or if you like, his way of saying, he just got called on a bluff & had nothing. Heh.
Looks like its another JC scroll night.
Sorry bloke, I’ll just pass on bye.
I wonder how his capital gains problem is going
like … did he have to take a second mortgage on his soul?
Who cares.
I’ll wait for a citation of evidence that I don’t own the pub.
That could take a while – order in a pallet of single malt.
Toad, I never started it. The human garbage bin did.
Funny how nobody else ever has to say this.
Only one arsehole has a foul mouth, bad manners & goes around calling others names.
Yet it’s someone else’s fault.
Piece of shit.
Driller, you know we can’t do that, because it’s doxxing. But we all know you don’t own a pub and you’ve been bullshitting now for over a decade. Unfortunately it was your blowharding that gave it away. Funny as. You big stupid delusional clown.
JC you drive it.
Whomp into a pint of scotch and play 301 on the dart board.
It’s soothing.
Oh yea,
All I did was mock the plussing.
Fact is that what I say about you is true. You’re a total fraud and blowhard. No one believes any of the claims you make because you lie.
Toad
All I did was take him for a ride because of the plussing. He then goes apeshit and the rest is history. This fraud is in no position to be plussing anyone.
oh shut up Toro
you’re exactly as much Italian as I am Irish
You don’t know who I am, where I am, what the pub is called.
Or even if it is a pub, or even in Qld.
You don’t know if I’m a publican, cane farmer, underground miner, surgeon, streetsweeper, or Lord Mayor of Adelaide.
That’s your problem. Suck it up girl.
Yet you’re unable to back any of your claims.
What a stupid comment.
You’ve no idea what anybody thinks – & you’ve yet to identify one lie.
Suck it up girl. You need to learn some manners – clearly your parents didn’t have what it takes to teach you any.
“Waa waa waa, I’m always in lotsa stoushes, yet none of it is my doing, I’m an innocent little virgin who never offends anybody.”
Crybaby.
Of course we know you’re not a publican, you delusional blowharding buffoon. We also know there was never 52 licenses and permits. You’re a fraud.
Of course you do.