Open Thread – Weekend 3 June 2023


One of the Family, Frederick George Cotman, 1880

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Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 10:51 am

Roberts-Smith is a Labor pinup boy, why else would Stokes parachute him into an Executive position and spend $25 million funding the Libel Action?

By Jove, you’ve got it!

Stokes is Donald Rumsfeld, and by that, I mean he is Spottswoode.

“Please, Gary, I’m not from Hollywood. I’m not going to collect the rent this month and my time is extremely valuable.”

Makka
Makka
June 3, 2023 10:52 am

Three of the worst offenders were McGowan, Andrews and Pallashay

Andrews was the worst, streets ahead of the rest. And my loathing for Andrews and in particular Vikpol has only grown since then.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 10:55 am

This is my Great Prediction. I am now in the pantheon with Armstrong and Dutchsinse, except I’m in the big chair getting the finest cuts of pork.

I lost bigly because of squibs. Some idiot even called me the assassin of the wukkin’ class.

1. Australia won’t even see 5% population decline by…? 2026, 1 Feb?

2. Donald Trump was meant to unseat the usurper Biden by now…?

That’s 20k of Australian sterling silver coins of middling quality I lost out on.

But because I am a degenerate gamblah, I took on monty twice on bum deals and ended up giving $50 to the Commando Welfare Trust twice. (I think it was twice).

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 3, 2023 10:57 am

the former SAS soldier committed serious war crimes

Clipping some talibani on his RDO isn’t the same as My Lai 4.
FFS.

Roger
Roger
June 3, 2023 10:58 am

Andrews was the worst, streets ahead of the rest. And my loathing for Andrews and in particular Vikpol has only grown since then.

The race to the bottom is the only race Andrews has ever won.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 3, 2023 10:59 am

We are gutted that these so-called AFL role models weren’t prepared to listen to our truths

Anyone who speaks like this can be dismissed out of hand.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 10:59 am

Won’t be long before there are class-action lawsuits by shareholders against the company and board of directors for destruction of shareholder value

Dover? reposted a conservative wag from the US saying how stakeholder capitalism has fiduciary duty arse-backwards. It is correct and I think so is Musk.

If anyone saw the Heckler & Koch PR incident, they were the only company I know of to date to deal with the woke zombie virus correctly.

1. Dismiss rogue employee.
2. Delete nonsense.
3. Apologise.
4. Declare we’re not into identity politics in any way.
5. Gently explain it wasn’t you.
6. Keep on truckin’, don’t get argumentative.
7. Focus on your products and product-focused social media content.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 11:01 am

It’s time to bring back champerty, maintenance and barratry!

Muddy
Muddy
June 3, 2023 11:01 am

The Australian War Memorial is reviewing its exhibit displaying medals and military uniform belonging to Victoria Cross recipient Ben Roberts-Smith…

Knowing first-hand what an amazing depository of information the AWM is for a researcher (the digitisation of primary source documents, including original unit war diaries, has been of considerable benefit to an enthusiastic but poorly-resourced amateur such as myself), it is distressing to witness such an institution head in this direction.*

I don’t know if their redevelopments entail a ‘Frontier Wars’ gallery, but if they do place such skirmishes on the same level as the major armed conflicts, they will lose me as a believer.

*In regards to Ben Roberts-Smith, V.C., I believe it premature for the AWM to take a public position.

Muddy
Muddy
June 3, 2023 11:02 am

depository or repository?
Dunno.
Meh.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 3, 2023 11:06 am

I don’t know if their redevelopments entail a ‘Frontier Wars’ gallery, but if they do place such skirmishes on the same level as the major armed conflicts, they will lose me as a believer.

Forensic evidence of any such “Frontier Wars?” “Stories my Nanna told me” don’t count.

Muddy
Muddy
June 3, 2023 11:08 am

Zulu: I hope the missus is traveling O.K. despite the bumpy road.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 3, 2023 11:10 am

Never understood the popularity of this guy.

I don’t know the guy, but would observe that there is a significant population who crave anodyne bromides that can serve as principles that make a virtue of following the path of least resistance.

As opposed to the principles that they may have been brought up with that might occasionally demand that they stand for something.

Vicki
Vicki
June 3, 2023 11:12 am

The Australian War Memorial is reviewing its exhibit displaying medals and military uniform belonging to Victoria Cross recipient Ben Roberts-Smith…

We were only there 2 weeks ago. I had not previously seen the amazing exhibit of the HUGE military uniform belonging to BRS. But even then – we speculated that they would probably remove it.

It is interesting that every person that we converse with at our local cafe (admittedly all friends with similar backgrounds and age) are shocked at the vendetta against BRS. Further, they all cite the horrific job the Special Forces were asked to do for such a long period. Surprisingly, many (mostly the women!) were unaware of the rules of engagement that the Geneva Convention imposes. When explained, they were doubly horrified that our forces were expected to operate under such restrictions in a difficult terrain where the enemy were not always clearly defined.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 3, 2023 11:15 am

depository or repository?

If they are going to use it to start infusing the nonsense of the non-existent ‘Frontier Wars’ into our history then it would be a suppository.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 11:16 am

bern talks of a curated economy.

I think he’s right. I know some people who bought a “lifestyle” block in my hometown. They paid overs, but they were smart and got a good home on it for a good price and still made money (but making money in the past few years wasn’t a sign of being special, if you had the capital to start with, you could always make profit net of transaction costs…). They had to build what amounted to a luxury home, under the rules. So they had to be smart.

15-20 years ago, you could buy cheaply there and build cheaply. In the last 5-10 years, ‘Stepford Wife’ rules were introduced to stop people from erecting cheaper-style housing. Even if your dwelling is not visible from the rather secluded single-lane “residential” road.

No sheds now, we were here first.

Pull up the drawbridge, Wilfred. Master Guillaume is home!

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 11:19 am

To Imperium of Man pursuits in the basement!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 3, 2023 11:20 am

Three of the worst offenders were McGowan, Andrews and Pallashay.

McGowan has gone. It is now June. By the end of September, as the weather starts to warm, the other two will be relegated to history as well.

Can’t argue with the sentiment.

But the next Queenssland election is set for late October 2024. Looking at the pretty horrible alternatives, I’d be amazed if the Qld ALP took the Palacechook out the back of the woodshed before then.

Aside from the useless LNP, her longevity is based on her public persona as a dim, but fairly pleasant creature – in contrast to vipers like Miles and Dick, or vapid non-entities like the rest of her Cabinet.

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 3, 2023 11:21 am

I just find his writing style really taxing to read.

It’s his use (over use?) of commas wot does it, JC.

Vicki
Vicki
June 3, 2023 11:22 am

“Collection items relating to Ben Roberts-Smith VC MG, including his uniform, equipment, medals and associated art works, are on display in the Memorial’s galleries,” Mr Beazley said.
“We are considering carefully the additional content and context to be included in these displays.”

An interesting comment by Beazley. Actually, I expected some post-haste dismantling of the memorabilia related to BRS by the politically correct. But I should have recalled Beazley’s lifelong respect for the armed forces and their sacrifices. I suspect they will display the obligatory notations about the judicial accusations.

Roger
Roger
June 3, 2023 11:23 am

Before I go…

Dr Strangelove is on SBS World Movies at 4:55PM.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 3, 2023 11:25 am

Regarding the WhatsApp misadventures of BoJo, surely this wouldn’t have happened in Jim Hacker’s day.
“What’s Wrong With Open Government?” from Yes Minister, Season 1, Episode 1.
https://youtu.be/8qSbB0ofJ4g
So many quotable quotes in this one scene.

It’s a contradiction in terms. You can be open or you can have government.

Look at the minsters we’ve had. Every one of them would have been a laughing stock in 3 months had it not been for the most rigid and impenetrable secrecy about what they were up to.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 3, 2023 11:27 am

it is distressing to witness such an institution head in this direction

They tried to go woke earlier this year and had their heads handed back to them by Barnaby and the Nats.

I don’t think Melbourne’s Shrine of Remembrance is associated with AWM but they attempted to light themselves up in rainbow colours last year, but had to walk back the idea after pressure from Katherine Deves and Neil Mitchell.

So no surprise to me that the AWM is doing a Sir Robin impression. If the ADF is woke the AWM is going to go that way also. It’s a perfect organization to be killed, gutted, then worn as a skinsuit whilst demanding respect. /iowahawk.

Roger
Roger
June 3, 2023 11:27 am

Aside from the useless LNP, her longevity is based on her public persona as a dim, but fairly pleasant creature…

I suspect the public are no longer buying that, having by now seen enough of the real Anna.

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 3, 2023 11:28 am

Milt @ 8:08am.

Somewhere I read that after his years as head of the ACTU, during which occurred the wages blow outs of the 70s, Hawke was very aware of how Business viewed him; hence one of/the main reason for the wages & prices accord with Kelty. Of course, the savings were all supposed to go into retraining/training up the workforce. RTOs became a growth industry.

Vicki
Vicki
June 3, 2023 11:31 am

In a curated economy like Australia, the moat is all important.

That’s what we need! A moat!

We have a gigantic Angus cross bullock with long horns & rear quarters standing at over 2m…….why do we need a moat? His name is “Mary” unfortunately …..which says it all.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 3, 2023 11:31 am

To Imperium of Man pursuits in the basement!

No!

To outdoor pursuits!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 3, 2023 11:33 am

What was the scandal sheets’ defence to the claim of defamation?

Truth is one defence, but there are others.

Those people and organisations treating BRS as a convicted criminal might be defaming him again.

cohenite
June 3, 2023 11:34 am

BRS has quit 7 but will Stokes continue to bankroll his appeal?

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 3, 2023 11:36 am

Bar Beach Swimmer says: June 3, 2023 at 11:28 am

RTOs became a growth industry.

Specifically, a population growth industry.
In high immigration suburbs it is not unusual to find RTOs for basic things like English As A Second Language located right next to businesses offering immigration visa and “residency pathways” services. Some businesses even say the quiet part out loud by putting both education and residency in their facade promos.
Somehow the “attracting skilled migrants” policy got turned around 180°.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 3, 2023 11:41 am

This happens, and has happened in every industry everywhere since forever – and don’t ever walk around under the misapprehension that the ladeeeees don’t do exactly the same thing.

Bwah ha ha ha.
Last weekend we had dinner with a bunch of chaps from school.
The ladies were rating various celebrity Hemsworths etc that they would ‘do’.
The barometric pressure in the room dropped considerably when a couple of blokes started playing the same game, with very specific ratings for different ladeee attributes.

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 3, 2023 11:42 am

Cohenite,
Probably the only way for that to occur, if it does. BRS & Stokes both taking blows ATM. But out of the spotlight hopefully there will be a way to keep going.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 3, 2023 11:42 am

A Grauniad piece, summoning forth demons to drag BRS off to Hell – and highlighting the integrity and steely resolve of our leaders.

The Cast:

The Scholars:

There are, however, calls from media commentators and legal experts for him to be stripped of the decoration given the judgment against him.

The Avenging Angel:

Brereton argued that the investigation and prosecution of war crimes was vital for the preservation of Australia’s “moral authority”.

Mephistopheles:

The Australian federal police has told Roberts-Smith he is a suspect in their investigations into alleged war crimes committed in Afghanistan.

The Arbiter:

Richard Marles said on Thursday it would be inappropriate to comment.

The Highest Authority:

Prime minister, Anthony Albanese, asked in Singapore about the findings against Roberts-Smith, declined to comment on his case specifically.

“That is an area in which we have a responsibility and we have indicated very clearly that we would take up that responsibility.”

Tragick.

Entropy
Entropy
June 3, 2023 11:42 am

Well, the LNP has been gun-shy ever since it allowed the narrative that Newman lost government because he sacked a bunch of public servants, instead of the real cause, in an optional preference election Clive Palmer getting vengeance for Newman not giving his mines special treatment. But the public servant meme has lost a lot of currency because of a, well lack of service, from a rapidly expanding public service.

As for the ALP, Palaszczuk is in the right faction whatever it is called, a minority in the caucus. In fact the ALP Right is probably to the right of the modern libs, which has always been an asset for the ALP in Qld. The only reason the Left hasn’t rolled her is they realise their preferred Premier (Steven Miles, or eventually Sharon Fentiman) would lose the next election. If Palaszczuk should win the election in 17 months’ time, I expect the Left to move against her in the first year.

areff
areff
June 3, 2023 11:43 am

Apropos of nothing but happenstance, Morpheus relaxed her embrace this morning to the sound of the Kinks’ ‘Living on a Thin Line’ on the radio. It’s been ear-worming ever since, along with the thought that Ray Davies is as eloquent as Orwell in lamenting the death of the things, large and small, that made England and are no more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUiCNwBuNO0

All the stories have been told
Of kings and days of old
But there’s no England now (there’s no England now)
All the wars that were won and lost
Somehow don’t seem to matter very much anymore
All the lies we were told (all the lies we were told)
All the lies of the people running round
Their castles have burned
I see change
But inside we’re the same
As we ever were……

calli
calli
June 3, 2023 11:43 am

Grate.

Bomber Beazley weighs in on the BRS lawsuit result.

With predictable mendacity.

Tom
Tom
June 3, 2023 11:44 am

Dr Strangelove is on SBS World Movies at 4:55PM.

Best movie ever made, IMO.

I’m taping it via my Foxtel box as the free copy I used to have has been moved and/or erased from its internet address.

areff
areff
June 3, 2023 11:44 am

And just now on 3AW they mentioned the same song. It’s a sign to re-read ‘Coming Up For Air’

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 3, 2023 11:45 am

The barometric pressure in the room dropped considerably when a couple of blokes started playing the same game…

I’m assuming these blokes are test pilots or bomb disposal technicians.

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 3, 2023 11:47 am

On the lower productivity prob currently in our economy- see Lowe – I’m wondering whether the increasing numbers of females in previously male dominated sectors – I’m mean physically taxing jobs – is part of the problem.

Instead of one male to undertake a task, many females require a male to assist. How many times is that scenario happening?

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 3, 2023 11:49 am

This happens, and has happened in every industry everywhere since forever – and don’t ever walk around under the misapprehension that the ladeeeees don’t do exactly the same thing.

I would think AFLW might be an exception?

rickw
rickw
June 3, 2023 11:55 am

preservation of Australia’s “moral authority”

Moral authority is built on the treatment of citizens, therefore Australia doesn’t have any.

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 3, 2023 11:55 am

War Memorial chair and former Labor leader Kim Beazley confirmed on Friday that the memorial council was weighing how to acknowledge the judgement which found the former SAS soldier committed serious war crimes including murder while serving in Afghanistan.

Er, no, it was a CIVIL trial and, at best, it might be said that the trial found BRS had not been defamed by the media allegations (to a ‘more likely than not’ evidentiary standard).

He was NOT criminally tried for ‘war crimes’ and therefore cannot have been found to committed them.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 3, 2023 11:57 am

With reference my native American posts last night, a cool vid.
A short story of the Comanche & Apache.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSYN7GF_ll0

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 11:58 am

I still don’t get the BRS loss and what he’s come up against. In order to earn his medal for valor, the people deciding would’ve have spoken to numerous people around him – up, down and sideways. How does it come to this? Numerous people found him valorous then subsequently he’s a murderer? Seriously, WTF?

rickw
rickw
June 3, 2023 12:02 pm

Won’t be long before there are class-action lawsuits by shareholders against the company and board of directors for destruction of shareholder value

Going to be lots of fun!

rickw
rickw
June 3, 2023 12:05 pm

Numerous people found him valorous then subsequently he’s a murderer? Seriously, WTF?

Australia, choc-a-block full of f’cking retards.

How the hell there wasn’t many more accusations of rough justice out of Afghanistan I’ll never know. By and large the country is a den of vipers.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 3, 2023 12:07 pm

Well, the LNP has been gun-shy ever since it allowed the narrative that Newman lost government because he sacked a bunch of public servants, instead of the real cause, in an optional preference election Clive Palmer getting vengeance for Newman not giving his mines special treatment.

Yes all this.
Also the high profile pissant stupidity of AG/MiniJust, Jarrod Bleijie.

MatrixTransform
June 3, 2023 12:08 pm

but the above typically just dissolves morality into culture

yes because morality is always downstream … ask an Aztec

I suppose yr saying that there is an absolute morality.
and if that’s the case, then from whence does it derive?
and where does it go when somebody acts immorally?

or maybe there’s even a specific morality, something like an intensive property of something.
like an in-built moral set per unit … per person perhaps?

and so if that’s the case where does that measure go when somebody acts contrary to another’s morality?

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 12:10 pm

Brereton argued that the investigation and prosecution of war crimes was vital for the preservation of Australia’s “moral authority”.

Since when were we a moral authority? Is it the same time we had Aboriginals in each household as both unpaid servile bestial domestic servants and pot plants?

In order to earn his medal for valor, the people deciding would’ve have spoken to numerous people around him – up, down and sideways. How does it come to this? Numerous people found him valorous then subsequently he’s a murderer?

Some days I wish we had a court of honour. I’d challenge Ali Jan’s relatives that he did not have four or more professions.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 12:15 pm

Yep

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12094751/Tennessee-cop-gone-wild-Maegan-Hall-fetish-black-men-fired-officer-claims.html

EXCLUSIVE: Tennessee cop-gone-wild Maegan Hall, 27, had a ‘fetish’ for black men, badgered colleagues for sex and told one he ‘must be gay’ for rejecting her advances, fired officer claims

Officer Maegan Hall, 27, was fired in January after an internal probe revealed her sexual encounters with six male officers
Sgt. Lewis Powell, a 15-year law enforcement veteran who was fired, claims that Hall had a fetish for black men and pressured him for sex
Hall has claimed that Powell, 42, and a police chief ‘groomed’ and ‘abused’ her

She’s a mini Weinstein. Dude wasn’t gay, you’re mid at best. The end.

MatrixTransform
June 3, 2023 12:16 pm

PS:
I’d be satisfied with the religious absolute
the argument that this is how we always did things
it’s as good as any other

Code of Hammurabi
look here son, we wrote it down ages ago

back then, a couple of thousand years BC, the king got his legal codec straight from the god of justice’s mouth

on the other hand, if it came from on-high and was valid/moral/ethical back then
… why isn’t it now?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 3, 2023 12:16 pm

He was NOT criminally tried for ‘war crimes’ and therefore cannot have been found to committed them.

So how do the howler monkeys at “The Age” get away with this?

The rich and influential cheer squad who backed a war criminal

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2023 12:22 pm

I still don’t get the BRS loss and what he’s come up against.
A number of former SAS troops had made allegations about Roberts-Smith dating back to 2007.
The MSM took about 10 years to report it and when they finally did, Roberts-Smith sued, bankrolled by Stokes.
In order to earn his medal for valor, the people deciding would’ve have spoken to numerous people around him – up, down and sideways.
Not necessarily.
Despite the full book of tatts, Roberts-Smith is a Toff. They look after their own.
How does it come to this? Numerous people found him valorous then subsequently he’s a murderer? Seriously, WTF?

The issue of his former comrades was that the things Roberts-Smith was doing and coercing others under his authority to do were psychopthic and terrible for morale, among other things.
The witnesses from the SAS acknowledged his bravery/heroism/whatever, but were critical of his leadership.
What’s been happening for a fair few years is the ADF Legal Branch running a fine tooth comb over every soldier that ever said anything critical of Roberts-Smith, but Roberts-Smith himself, they’ll never investigate his actions in Afghanistan in a million years.
Draw your own conclusions.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 12:25 pm

The ladies were rating various celebrity Hemsworths etc that they would ‘do’.
The barometric pressure in the room dropped considerably when a couple of blokes started playing the same game, with very specific ratings for different ladeee attributes

Pancho, was Margo Robbie mentioned? She’s about the only Hollyweirdette I can think of that I’d give more than a second glance.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2023 12:35 pm

Basically, the things Roberts-Smith is accused of work against other Australian Troops, since when the local farmers realise that they’re going to be shot if they’re in the wrong place at the wrong time, then ther4e’s no percentage in helping the Australians at all.
For example, the Australians enjoyed mostly cordial relations with the natives of Papua and New Guinea during the Pacific War and the Japs didn’t.
If it had been the other way around, things might have turned out differently.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 3, 2023 12:35 pm

Pancho, was Margo Robbie mentioned? She’s about the only Hollyweirdette I can think of that I’d give more than a second glance.

Err, no.
The chaps seemed focussed on ladies with yuuuuge bosoms.

Delta A
Delta A
June 3, 2023 12:36 pm

Indolentsays:
June 3, 2023 at 9:15 am

Thanks for posting Matt Walsh’s ‘What is a Woman?’, Indolent. Very disturbing, indeed.

Vicki
Vicki
June 3, 2023 12:45 pm

Those people and organisations treating BRS as a convicted criminal might be defaming him again.

The judgement in the defamation action has certainly emboldened his opponents in the media. It is extraordinary. Will it backfire?

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 3, 2023 12:46 pm

Re my comment about lost productivity from females working in physically demanding, previously male dominated jobs; there’s an argument that the males are fulfilling the same function as base load power v ruinables; they must be there to do the task when the other can’t.

Jorge
Jorge
June 3, 2023 12:48 pm

Cyril Rioli and other male members of his clan received scholarships to Scotch. The Riolis would have been popular members of the First XVIII so not such a bad time. I wonder what worm got into Cyril’s heart. Perhaps his missus sees a political future for a bloke who used to be a bit shy and reticent and not political at all.

Vicki
Vicki
June 3, 2023 12:54 pm

The issue of his former comrades was that the things Roberts-Smith was doing and coercing others under his authority to do were psychopthic and terrible for morale, among other things.
The witnesses from the SAS acknowledged his bravery/heroism/whatever, but were critical of his leadership.
What’s been happening for a fair few years is the ADF Legal Branch running a fine tooth comb over every soldier that ever said anything critical of Roberts-Smith, but Roberts-Smith himself, they’ll never investigate his actions in Afghanistan in a million years.
Draw your own conclusions.

You are not wrong that BRS had many enemies and critics amongst the special forces who fought in those years in Afghanistan. It seems that you are also right that there is a division of opinion between the ADF and many in/ex Special Forces in respect to BRS.

I still think the critical issue is the issue of rules of engagement (&, by implication the Geneva Convention) in respect to battleground conditions in places like Afghanistan. The related question of repeated deployments in such conditions should be an essential issue explored, as is the culpability of senior command.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 3, 2023 12:57 pm

On Sleazy, LOL overseas again. However how does this repugnant person of low character get through unscathed? Just what I have seen in the public sphere and from someone first hand who knew him in Young Labor, this guy would have to have closets packed to gunwales of skeletons. Being sprung leaving a Thai “massage” parlour would be the death knell of most in public life let alone a person with reputed mean & nasty temperament. Yet the Lib’s sling nothing.

Beasley is the dregs of his fathers reported quip. I remember my dad and mates when they were drunk gobbing off about him when he was defence minister in my teenage years. Usually vulgar, very uncomplimentary about his girth and job competence wasn’t held in high regard that I would imagine was the norm through the rank & file. Yet he is lauded as some sort of Defence expert, go figure.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 12:58 pm

…whether they are in agreement with norms of contemporary society, and the like.

A stock market drop of 15%- 20% because they stuck a bloke pretending he’s a woman in a bath selling beer doesn’t appear as “contemporary norms”.

Target’s fallen 17%.

Kohl’s about the same.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 12:59 pm

Jim Cramer: Buy AB In Bev!

Vicki
Vicki
June 3, 2023 1:00 pm

Basically, the things Roberts-Smith is accused of work against other Australian Troops, since when the local farmers realise that they’re going to be shot if they’re in the wrong place at the wrong time, then ther4e’s no percentage in helping the Australians at all.

Nope. Afghani obligations are based on familial and tribal relationships. While there often seemed to be relationships of trust formed with the invaders…..at the end of the day cultural traditions and obligations (not to speak of religious imperatives) prevail.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 1:02 pm

Last Updated: May 31, 2023 at 6:32 a.m. ET
First Published: May 31, 2023 at 6:22 a.m. ET

Bank of America tabulated Nielsen research covering the four weeks ending May 20. Anheuser-Busch volume dropped 17%, including a 28% dive for Bud Light. Its other brands are struggling as well: Budweiser volumes are down 16%, Michelob Ultra volumes are down 10% and Busch volumes are down 12%.

But other beers have thrived, with Coors Light volume up 16%, Miller Lite up 15% and Yuengling up 32%. Molson Coors Beverage makes Coors Light and Miller Lite.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/anheuser-busch-inbev-share-price-skids-as-bud-light-and-other-budweiser-brand-sales-deteriorate-d745baa9

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 3, 2023 1:02 pm

The related question of repeated deployments in such conditions should be an essential issue explored, as is the culpability of senior command.

Absolutely.
Unfortunately, the military and political establishments are clearly forming up to find individual guilt that exculpates any political and command failings.

Little people just don’t understand the relentless pressure at the top, where the buck stops.

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2023 1:03 pm

I think Johannes Leak’s cartoon today nails it. It perfectly encapsulates the nauseating hypocrisy and sanctimony that now runs rampant through this country. Leak cuts straight to the obvious about BRS.

Johannes is a credit to his late father, perhaps, dare I say it, he may even be surpassing Bill’s genius. I also get the impression that Johannes’ politics are a tad more conservative than his late father’s.

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2023 1:05 pm

“A stock market drop of 15%- 20% because they stuck a bloke pretending he’s a woman in a bath selling beer doesn’t appear as “contemporary norms”.”

Get it right JC, HE is now saying that he’s a lesbian!

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 1:06 pm

Transgendered lesbian with a male presenting clitoris.

He was born that way, along with the feminising facial surgery.

bespoke
bespoke
June 3, 2023 1:07 pm

Indolentsays:
June 3, 2023 at 9:15 am
Elon Musk
@elonmusk

Every parent should watch this

Cheers

Do you care about their feelings?
Shop owner: no I’m old.
How do you know you’re a man.
Shop owner: I have a dick!

Mad my day.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 1:09 pm

There you go, it’s no longer up for any contentious debate. John Howard was our best PM ever.

John Howard is our worst ever prime minister

Phillip Adams in the oz

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 1:09 pm

Interesting. I may post more.

https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/bud-light-target-stocks-continue-to-fall-amid-boycotts-while-miller-light-stocks-rise-anheuser-busch-market-valuation-dylan-mulvaney-trans-transgender-wall-street-share-price

Anheuser-Busch has lost $26 billion in market capitalization over the last two months, Forbes says. NielsenIQ data cited by Goldman Sachs on Tuesday says that Anheuser-Busch sales have fallen by 10% or more each week for the last four weeks when compared to the same weeks last year.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 3, 2023 1:10 pm

On Queensland, Chrisifulli has miffed me. Had high hopes for him after his tenure on the Townsville City Council where at least he kept some of the present shenanigans up this way under control. He was like a rabid dog both to ALP Mayors Tony Mooney & Jenny Hills immense irritation. Did well as Mayor Les Tyrel’s deputy. He moved to the Gold Coast, smart move as a Queensland Premier won’t get elected outside of the SE corner but he hasn’t even misfired on one cylinder.

Deb was absolutely woeful but here I am pondering whether the party is also at fault as well.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 1:10 pm

Get it right JC, HE is now saying that he’s a lesbian!

Ha. That’s a new one.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 1:10 pm

It gets better.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/06/01/bud-light-makes-200k-donation-to-lgbt-group-after-backlash-for-not-having-dylan-mulvaneys-back-1364383/

No win situation…

In May, several gay bars in Chicago stopped selling Anheuser-Busch products in protest of the company allegedly trying to placate conservatives.

Chicago’s 2Bears Tavern claimed that the company’s response “shows how little Anheuser-Busch cares about the LGBTQIA+ community, and in particular transgender people, who have been under unrelenting attack in this country.”

“Since Anheuser-Busch does not support us, we will not support it,” the company asserted.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 1:12 pm

Moral panicists declare the destruction of inanimate objects violent; a belief in balanced budgets and free speech over forced pronouns is the obvious cause: SENATE REPUBLICANS AND CONSERVATIVE ENTERTAINERS:

https://www.newsweek.com/shane-gillis-says-kid-rock-should-bud-light-spokesperson-violent-video-joe-rogan-1803820

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 3, 2023 1:13 pm

Krudd & ScoMo were equal gold medalists with the steaming turd they delivered.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
June 3, 2023 1:15 pm

Those people and organisations treating BRS as a convicted criminal might be defaming him again.

I don’t have it in front of me now, but yesterday’s headline called BRS a murderer. Which to my mind defames him. Plenty of other media in the past 36 hours also falls into that category, imho.
Not happy, Jan.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
June 3, 2023 1:16 pm

yesterday’s Oz headline…………….

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 3, 2023 1:17 pm

Shane Gillis & Matt McCusker are the closest thing to the O&A show at the moment.
Unfortunately it’s only two hours a week of content.
Real comedy is subversive.
Always has been, always will be.

cohenite
June 3, 2023 1:18 pm

I still think the critical issue is the issue of rules of engagement (&, by implication the Geneva Convention) in respect to battleground conditions in places like Afghanistan. The related question of repeated deployments in such conditions should be an essential issue explored, as is the culpability of senior command.

Yep. Facts:

Taliban/ISIS wear no uniform
BRSs mission to kill or capture hekmatullah, the dog who did the Green on Blue murder of 3 of BRS’s fellow soldiers
Ali Jan was an associate of hek and admitted to be a taliban by nein’s barrister nicholas owens
Afghan witnesses paid by nein; not eye witnesses: probative value nil
SAS witnesses not eye witnesses: they are the key.

What happened to hek:

Hekmatullah, the rogue Afghan soldier who killed three unarmed Australian diggers in Afghanistan a decade ago, is living in a luxury home in the capital Kabul, treated as a “returning hero” by the Taliban who released him from prison.

He has said he does not regret killing Australian soldiers, and has vowed he would again kill Australians, or anyone who opposes the Taliban.

“If I am released I will continue killing foreigners,” Hekmatullah told an official of the former Afghan government when his release was being negotiated.

“I will continue killing Australians and I will kill you as well because you are a puppet of foreigners,” he said.

Is brereton or campwell or shoebridge or masters or mckenzie investigating this? Bastards.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 3, 2023 1:20 pm

Shane Gillis Decorated Army Veteran

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW844ysVcA0

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 3, 2023 1:21 pm

Dr Faustussays:

June 3, 2023 at 1:02 pm

The related question of repeated deployments in such conditions should be an essential issue explored, as is the culpability of senior command.

Absolutely.
Unfortunately, the military and political establishments are clearly forming up to find individual guilt that exculpates any political and command failings.

Little people just don’t understand the relentless pressure at the top, where the buck stops.

I seem to remember a former PM proudly announcing that he had been patted on the head in Washington and told our military “punches above it’s weight”.
Which is another way of saying “over-stretched”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 3, 2023 1:32 pm

Joe Vialls has gone quiet of late.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 3, 2023 1:39 pm

Those people and organisations treating BRS as a convicted criminal might be defaming him again.

Was thinking the same myself this week. Problem is would you put yourself through it again, Fewfacts/Nein pulled out all stops both in & out of the court room to the point a suppression order probably would have been warranted.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 3, 2023 1:42 pm

Knitting the kangaroo.

Elementary sex ed promoted puberty blockers, pubic hair art (2 Jun)

An elementary school offered inappropriate sex ed lessons to students without parental consent or district approval, according to concerned parents and a community activist. Parents only found out about it after finding the lesson plans from their kids, not the school.

Materials presented by Planned Parenthood included drawings of pubic hair shaped like an animal, and students were told they could pick from a number of contrived genders to identify as. … Students saw vaginas with pubic hair art, with one shaped like a cat and another like a heart.

My lack of imagination is probably the only reason I’ve never conceived of the idea of turning my pubic hair into a work of art. I’m sure there’s an arts grant in it for any artist in Australia who wants one. Pity the poor kids who have to do a practical exam on this particular subject though.

jupes
jupes
June 3, 2023 1:49 pm

Get it right JC, HE is now saying that he’s a lesbian!

I still reckon Dylan is just pulling the piss. He wanted to see how far he go with this insane rubbish but even he couldn’t have predicted just how far these loons would go! Brilliant performance theatre, nothing more.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 3, 2023 1:53 pm

One of the interesting things about the Bud Light foot-shooting imbroglio is how long the impact has lasted – and how the flames of value destruction have jumped industries and corporations.

My soshuls from the US tell me that this is significantly driven by the media – which has gone from ‘well, looky there’ to reporting the outrage of every LGBTQ organisation and talking head has for deplorable rednecks, in an apparent attempt to restore normal levels of wokeness.

Which is proving counterproductive for the liberal persuasion that assumes everyone thinks like them.

The overwhelming message from middle and blue collar America seems to be ‘do what you gotta do, but not where it’s in my face’.

Not complicated.

bespoke
bespoke
June 3, 2023 1:53 pm

Indolentsays:
June 3, 2023 at 9:15 am
Elon Musk
@elonmusk

Every parent should watch this

Maasai
What about transgener?
Maasai: no something is wrong in the head.
What about none binary!
Maasai: Err come again?

rosie
rosie
June 3, 2023 2:01 pm

I shopped a few times at Kohl’s in fly over country with my US buddy.
It’s the epitome of dag central.
What made them think being progressive would be a more sales maker?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 3, 2023 2:07 pm

You’re hired by the government to fight a war in a country where the enemy dress like civilians and try to pass as civilians. Let’s say that for any one native there’s a nine in ten probability that he’s an innocent civilian, and a one in ten probability that he’s planning to kill you if he can. Do you release him on the grounds that it’s 90% likely he’s an innocent civilian?

If you do this ten times, the probability of one of them intending to kill you rises to just over 65%. Your life expectancy shrinks in proportion to the number of times you let off the probably innocent. Hence the only realistic strategy is to kill them all.

This isn’t a very happy conclusion, but it’s the only realistic one. Those who make judgements from an armchair in safety can avoid reality, our soldiers cannot. Leak has it exactly right.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 3, 2023 2:13 pm

One of the interesting things about the Bud Light foot-shooting imbroglio is how long the impact has lasted – and how the flames of value destruction have jumped industries and corporations.

All I can say is after Gillette did their woke ad campaign I switched to a non-Gillette brand and haven’t bought Gillette since. Had a bit more trouble with Kelloggs, but eventually found an alternative that worked for me. So that’s two companies that no longer get my money after almost forty years of regular patronage of their products.

I was in a bottlo this morning stocking up. It was interesting that the proud wine brand that switched to recycled plastic wine bottles “to help save the planet” (they had this exact phrase on the label) isn’t anywhere to be seen now after a year of effort. Never appeared to be flying off the shelves, quite the opposite. I’ve bought that brand in the past, will not be doing so in the future, nor any wine labelled as “organic”.

I do hope companies will get the message that pandering to the Left doesn’t get extra sales and causes we unwoke to head for the exits. Doesn’t bother me if they don’t: they entirely own their self-harm.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 3, 2023 2:14 pm

Our spy secrets revealed: How the Garage Girls helped shorten World War II
Garry Maddox
By Garry Maddox
June 3, 2023 — 5.30am

They were known as the Garage Girls: a group of women code breakers who worked – around the clock in eight-hour shifts – in a shed behind a Brisbane mansion during World War II.

Out the back of the headquarters of General Douglas MacArthur, who was supreme commander of the allied forces in the southwest Pacific, they decoded Japanese radio signals and decrypted messages to allied troops using cypher machines.

Officially known as the Central Bureau, it was a smaller-scale and less-well-known Australian version of the British code breakers at Bletchley Park.

Now a new ABC documentary, Breaking The Code: Cyber Secrets Revealed, reveals how the Garage Girls helped the Allies kill Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, the head of the Japanese Navy who oversaw the attack on Pearl Harbour in 1941.

In a blow to Japanese morale, Yamamoto died when his plane was shot down over Bougainville in 1943.

“The Japanese didn’t realise that the Allies had cracked their code,” the ABC’s political editor, Andrew Probyn, who reported and presents the documentary, says.

While others have claimed a share of the credit, Probyn says the Garage Girls deciphered a message that showed “where the Admiral would be flying, the plane he would be flying in and when he’d be getting to Bougainville”.

Probyn came up with the idea for the documentary about the evolution of Australia’s cybersecurity agencies after visiting the museum at the Australian Signals Directorate in Canberra.

He interviewed two of the last surviving Garage Girls, who were both recruited as 19-year-olds.

Joyce Grace, who finally received the Australian Intelligence Medal at the age of 100 in April, worked in a haberdashery before the war. Coral Hinds, who died in February aged 98, went from a cake shop to a cypher machine.

At the end of the war, the Garage Girls were required to stay silent about their work for 30 years.

“Their contribution was forgotten,” Probyn says. “If you can’t talk about something for decades, it’s almost history lost.”

The documentary includes a cable, deciphered by the Garage Girls and declassified for the ABC, that an obviously horrified Japanese officer sent to Tokyo headquarters after the atomic bomb devastated Hiroshima in 1945.

“The concussion was beyond imagination and demolished practically every house in the city,” it read. “Please investigate and report any information concerning this new type of bomb.”

Grace says in the documentary that MacArthur credited their work with shortening the war by two years.

“We must have done something special,” she says. “I feel very proud about it.”

The documentary reveals a more recent Australian cybersecurity success: how cyber operators in Canberra jammed the encrypting apps on the mobile phones of Islamic State fighters so Iraqi security forces and their international partners could travel safely on the way to recapturing Mosul in 2017.

They were able to activate Trojan software placed remotely on IS phones, shutting down their internet connection, when Iraqi military commanders needed support.

“Australian cyber warriors are clearly much better than many of us ever thought,” Probyn says. “From 13,000 kilometres away, they were able to rummage around the Syrian and Iraqi desert, identify Islamic State fighters then place what they call payloads on to [their] phones without them even knowing it.”

P
P
June 3, 2023 2:21 pm

Breaking the Code: Cyber Secrets Exposed
7:30PM – 8:30PM – Sunday 4th June on ABC 24

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 3, 2023 2:25 pm

Pity that doco is by Andrew Probyn, he regularly of Ol’ Leathery’s couch. Irritating and lefty. Otherwise I might think about watching it. He’ll have to cowrite a history with Fitzsimian now.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 3, 2023 2:27 pm

Our spy secrets revealed: How the Garage Girls helped shorten World War II

I would really hope such a production to be done fairly, but it is the ABC. I cannot help by expect that it will be slanted to a modern agenda such that the women involved would be dismayed by how they were presented and what their motivations were.

Mind you, if it were Netflix they would be black. Of African rather than Aboriginal heritage.

And all the wicked, brutal, sadistic Japanese would be white males.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2023 2:36 pm

The Garage Girls sounds a bit thin.
They shortened the War by 2 years?
But no one bothered to tell the story until 50 years after the embargo period ended?
Gimme a break.
Here’s the reality:
There was a total mobilisation, a million men were conscripted and women ended up doing what had traditionally been men’s work.
And they did a competent job.
The End.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 3, 2023 2:38 pm

Peter
2 hours ago
As a former SAS veteran who has served the nation in war, I am appalled that the media in their reporting frenzy so readily trample on the fundamental tenet of our justice system, namely the presumption of innocence.
Justice Besanko did not declare BRS a war criminal, he found that based on contextual truth that he had not been defamed, based on a much lower standard of proof than required for a conviction in a criminal trial.
The media, in their haste to pass judgement on matters that most have no experience in of knowledge of, have now completely muddied the waters going forward. Now BRS and any others charged following Brereton are unlikely to have their case considered by a jury that is not influenced by this media hysteria. I fear that justice may not be served and that wrongful convictions might be the end result. There is also no empathy or respect shown to other veterans and the families that love and support them who are impacted by this thoughtless media coverage- many are at breaking point.
So, before journalists start calling for ripping medals off people with no process in mind, they might consider the lack of fairness and the possible consequences of their actions for BRS and others who might be accused and for the veteran community generally.
Time for calm I suggest, because as a nation we will be judged how this is handled both within the legal system and by the media.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 3, 2023 2:38 pm

able to activate Trojan software

Capital-T for Trojan?

Pretty sure Troy was destroyed before the fall of the Mycaenean palaces.

Perhaps they peppered ISIS’ monitors with images of goats and camels in various provocative poses – chewing grass, drinking water, staring blankly into space.

Perhaps ISIS should have learned the Trojan lesson: Beware of geeks bearing gifs.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2023 2:44 pm

There’s a garage in Norman Park, still operating, where women assembled aircraft engines during World War 2.
Koko the Gorilla was taught sign language too [though not by the Garage Girls].

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 3, 2023 2:44 pm

Pikers! Nongqawuse managed 300,000 to 400,000 cattle for her particular cult.

Ireland Plans to Slaughter 200,000 Farting Cows to Save Planet from ‘Global Warming’ (2 Jun)

Oh well, back to potatoes then. Did I mention that three quarters of Ms. Nongqawuse’s people then died or fled during the resulting famine? Not her though, she lived another forty years. Never believe teenage prophetesses named Greta Nongqawuse.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Mind you, if it were Netflix they would be black. Of African rather than Aboriginal heritage.

They’d also be lesbians, pairing off (& threeing off) all through the show.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 3, 2023 3:00 pm

Tough old codger.

Dr. Sethi to Newsmax: Biden ‘Needs to Get a Walker’ (2 Jun)

President Joe Biden’s falls, including the on-stage spill he took at the U.S. Air Force Academy graduation Thursday, are leaving the United States “one hip fracture from Kamala Harris becoming president, and that is very scary” Tennessee trauma surgeon Dr. Manny Sethi tells Newsmax.

He also needs a helmet.

Joe Biden Hits Head on Helicopter Door Hours After Falling (2 Jun)

President Joe Biden bumped his head while exiting the Marine One helicopter on Thursday, hours after he fell onstage at the U.S. Air Force Academy’s graduation ceremony in Colorado. In several videos posted to Twitter, Biden can be seen bumping his head on the top of the helicopter’s doorframe. The White House press pool report confirmed that the president hit his head but added that he looked “spry” after getting off the helicopter on the South Lawn.

I have no idea how, as a frail-looking 80 yr old, he’s managed to avoid serious injury with all of these accidents he’s been having. Charmed life.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 3, 2023 3:03 pm

Rogersays:
June 3, 2023 at 8:21 am
If large numbers are available, they will be used as such.

Only by incompetent generals.

And arrogant politicians.

mem
mem
June 3, 2023 3:08 pm

Chris Kenny spent a lot of words in today’s Oz telling his readers not to be divisive or mention the race word when discussing the The Voice. Problem is there is no detail in The Voice which one can focus on apart from the fact it gives certain Australians which belong to the Aboriginal race (recently re-named it seems to First Nations People) additional rights to others, which will be enshrined in the constitution. So on these grounds alone I will be saying no. And if saying no is divisive in Mr. Kenny’s eyes, then so be it. That’s how a referendum works. Some people will say yes and others who, like me, see the Constitution as necessarily treating everyone as equals and was taught to never sign a blank cheque, will say no. Can’t post his article as don’t subscribe.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 3, 2023 3:11 pm

Dr Faustussays:

June 3, 2023 at 1:53 pm

One of the interesting things about the Bud Light foot-shooting imbroglio is how long the impact has lasted – and how the flames of value destruction have jumped industries and corporations.

I think it was JC who linked to something here the other day postulating that conservative boycotts are now a real force, after a few sputtering false starts.
This one has cut deep and hard, and has been sustained over a long enough period to conclude that this is a permanent change in customer buying patterns.
A couple of other points worth making.
Firstly, the laughable attempt to roll out a jingoistic “draught horses, Chevy cars and check shirts” advertising campaign was seen for what it was … a cynical ploy to placate “the dumbarse rednecks”. The dumbarse rednecks saw straight through it and it only served to harden their resolve.
Secondly, as Dot says, they are now now caught in a double edged cleft stick sword that they forged themselves. By trying to recover their core constituency, they have totally pissed off the QWERTY lobby.
And they still won’t have learned from that.
I’ll bet internal reports of oceans of Bud Light building up in warehouses across the country is met with a “Meh” from marketing.
But the news that the Blue Oyster Bar (selling five cases a week) has sidelined Bud Light would be cause for late night OMG! crisis meetings.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 3, 2023 3:11 pm

Ireland Plans to Slaughter 200,000 Farting Cows to Save Planet from ‘Global Warming’

In the past spent own time and their own money without any guarantees, deployed their knowledge, intuition, ingenuity, and often guesswork, to wring the last drop from their science to produce a world of easy abundance.

So comprehensive were their achievements that to their heirs it seemed the natural order of things.

And now we find ourselves in a time where our leaders and an effete elite think they can banish all those hard won gifts that underwrite our prosperity and bathe in accolades while plenty continues to rain down upon us like summer rain and sunshine.

Not normally a vindictive person (unless you live in apartment 19 of my building) but we may need to make some special arrangements to deal with our lacklustre politicians who face no consequences for their idiotic schemes beyond being prematurely ejected into subsidised retirement in their Game Of Swivel-chairs.

Obviously we should attach penalties to each scheme that does not work. Start with their pensions, but they are sometimes able to get around that by flogging access to politics. We must start to think body parts. Scientists estimate that there is a 10% chance that politicians love their spawn. (Not in the way that people do but in their own strange, alien way). Easy way to replenish available organs for transplants. If doing so directly is legally problematic then a small bureaucracy called The Department for Safe Roads could be established (with typical Orwellian purpose) to arrange car accidents to free their various tissues up re-allocation.

I don’t think this goes too far.

cohenite
June 3, 2023 3:13 pm

Can’t post his article as don’t subscribe.

Good. Kenny says a lot of good stuff about alarmism and ruinables but is brain-dead about the screech.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 3, 2023 3:40 pm

Let’s return, then, to the question of whether corporal punishment might be an appropriate response to the current wave of political vandalism.

As a purely experimental project, howsabout we give it a try for a few years to see if it works?

bons
bons
June 3, 2023 3:41 pm

Dot considers my historically accurate assessment of Irish character and vulnerability to cults to be ‘unhinged’.
He’s right of course. Murdering 200,000 cows is both rational and logical if your nation’s whole history has been ruled by fanatical cultists and grifters. Religion, UN, EU, woke, IRA.
They are a ‘nation’ incapable of independant thought.
No other western people would sustain and accept the IRA.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 3, 2023 3:43 pm

Grandpa Ed Cletus-Case

Mizzzz Knickerless is verrrrry upset that you have abandoned her for some man! She thinks that you might have transitioned.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 3:44 pm

They can simply claim to be the victims of a targeted political boycott. That it is in accord with DEI. Imagine running this suit during Pride Month with all manner of corporate, government, academic and other institutional display of loyalty to globohomo and trying to convince a typical urban jury that this was extraordinary.

Dover, they can claim the dickhead is really a woman disguised as a man pretending to be woman for what it’s worth. The point is that we can navel gaze all we want about the robustness of a class action suit, but there have been plenty of cases that have gone to the courts for less. I’ve never understood class actions against a company by existing shareholders as its intention is to rip off other shareholders. Theoretically if every shareholder joined a class action the economic impact would be nil. It’s parasitical but it’s allowed.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 3:47 pm

Cronkite

but is brain-dead about the screech.

What’s “screech”? Try and not pretend to be so with it and cool by using terms no one’s heard of. You’re a regional and will not allowed to get away with that.

shatterzzz
June 3, 2023 3:54 pm

They were able to activate Trojan software placed remotely on IS phones, shutting down their internet connection, when Iraqi military commanders needed support.

I’ve just finished watching a French series, THE BUREAU (5 seasons) about the French OS secret service mob, DGSE and a lot of the stays-in-the-office stuff involves the “technical” dept ..
I’m not sure whether I’m amazed or stunned at what they do with mobile phone’systems technology .. the ability to not only get into them, remotely, but the bugs/info/control they can exert without the, actual, owner having a clue ….
I’ve also discovered a bit more respect for my son cos I know he is at the same, technical, level as these folk that can manipulate mobiles/systems in this way .. which is why, I suppose, he getz paid a 1st div lottery winner sized yearly salary with one of the big telecom mobs …….
The Bureau ……..
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4063800/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_q_the%2520bureau

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 3:55 pm

And here’s the next big cab of the rank.

Texas Republican Gov. Greg Abbott has signed into law a ban on gender-affirming care for most minors in the state, making Texas the largest state in the US to place restrictions on transgender youth’s access to critical care

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 3, 2023 3:57 pm

Bomber Beazley weighs in on the BRS lawsuit result.
With predictable mendacity.

Wow.Didn’t see that coming. Bomber living large (literally) on the public tit.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 3, 2023 4:04 pm

There you go, it’s no longer up for any contentious debate. John Howard was our best PM ever.
John Howard is our worst ever prime minister
Phillip Adams in the oz

This is going to take a while to process. Give me a minute.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 4:09 pm

Hey Dover, check your email, Squire.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 3, 2023 4:14 pm

I think it was JC who linked to something here the other day postulating that conservative boycotts are now a real force, after a few sputtering false starts.

Purely anecdotal, but I don’t get the impression that there’s anything like an organised conservative boycott happening. Just ordinary people going: ‘No. No, I don’t need this shit, not at all…

The elegance is that it’s the gyrations of the Organizatii on the woke side of the fence that are deepening and prolonging the corporate agony from marketing by ESG numbers.

As they say in the classics, farkem.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 4:14 pm

Goose Morristeen is the worst prime minister in my lifetime, with daylight second.

One gargantuan achievement, when you think about it, given the unrelenting cavalcade of incompetent infuriating vainglorious idiots to have occupied the post since St Gough.

bespoke
bespoke
June 3, 2023 4:17 pm

dover0beachsays:
June 3, 2023 at 3:27 pm

I read the link, cheers.

The riot of January 6, 2021 saw the U.S. Capitol vandalized. Environmentalists frequently deface or glue themselves to works of art, or block traffic by sitting in major roadways and refusing to move.

This stood out. One man’s terrorist is another’s freed fighter someone once said. Do we have a system fit to judge?
I think not.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 4:18 pm

Seriously, just look at this barely functional cretin

shatterzzz
June 3, 2023 4:19 pm

Quick reminder for affectionados of “fitba” the round ball game …
Both finals, live, on Paramount/10 tonight … A League & FA Cup ……..

John
John
June 3, 2023 4:20 pm

Nobody has picked up on the obvious flaw of the BRS judgement, that came in two (2) parts.
Part 1 was that BRS was obviously defamed. There is no dispute here.

The massive flaw is that the Judge ruled that the defamers had truth on their side. They didn’t!

=> BRS, as a soldier, was sent to fight terrorism by the Australian government.
=> The brutal fact is, soldiers go to a war zone to kill people. The terrorists were not distinguishable from non-terrorists.
=> The Taliban even had a reputation for using children to carry out suicide and other dangerous attacks, often recruiting them through deception.
=> Previously the Taliban themselves admitted to suicide killings by bombs hidden in an artificial leg.
=> In such a treacherous environment it would have been impossible to carry out precise rules of engagement without almost certain risk to the life of the frontline soldiers.
=> Thus effective rules of engagement should have ceded much decisionmaking to the professional judgement and much discretion, the special forces fighting in the frontline.
=> Furthermore, to be an effective soldier, it was the duty of BRS to instil fear into the enemy. That was his specialty.
=> Common sense tells you that experiencing death and mutilation from his deployment to the Afghanistan’s battlefront on six (6) occasions over a short period of time would’ve desensitised even the best trained soldier and made him more determined to inflict maximum damage where the treacherous enemy is very much all Afghans.
=> BRS was a corporal, subject to a long chain of command. It was the duty of those above him and ultimately the Special Forces Commander-in-Chief at that time, to manage deployment effectively.
=> A reasonable person should expect a competent Commander-in-Chief to be aware of the impact of battle on his frontline troops.
=> That BRS was permitted to serve six (6) concentrated tours of duty in what was generally known as a dangerous and treacherous environment and the knowledge they should have know about BRS’ effectiveness in such treacherous environment, should be substantial evidence of his commanders’ tacit approval of BRS’ actions.
=> As a result of the above, and especially the fact that BRS was merely a small cog in a longer chain of command, directed by all those above him; all responsibility exponentially moves from him to those higher up the command chain.
=> Much of this may seem distasteful to those not affected by being surrounded by Taliban terrorism, but these are the truths of fighting Taliban terror in their own backyard. BRS was sent there on his fearsome reputation as a fighter, by the politicians and the Generals. He is the product of Special Forces training!

I should expect that these critically significant facts self-evident to me, a non-lawyer would’ve been hammered home by BRS’ extravagantly paid legal team.

But in a profession notorious for imaginatively contriving antiphrasal meanings of words opposite to their literal intention, I’m more appalled that a learned Judge did not take into account that the truth of prolonged involvement in the frontline of Taliban terror, is completely different to the so called truth of making unjust judgements from the comfort and safety of his high bench. And BRS’ defamers know that.

It was BRS that should’ve been protected by truth, and not his opportunist defamers. This brazen injustice to BRS cries to the High Court to be corrected.

People should be outraged that BRS, sent to fight terror by politicians Australians elected, is now allowed to be cowardly smeared by grubs making money from sensationalism. Know this about the commie tyranny people have elected throughout Australia: they are playing with BRS today, but they will come after you tomorrow! That is always the pedigree of tyranny.

shatterzzz
June 3, 2023 4:22 pm

Seriously, just look at this barely functional cretin …
Taken the day inflation caught up .. the rub ‘n tug informed him .. prices gone up! .. LOL!

Zipster
Zipster
June 3, 2023 4:27 pm

mRNA will be EVERYWHERE
The Medical Establishment and Governments everywhere, are banking on this technology to be the future.

Dr. Suneel Dhand

Zipster
Zipster
June 3, 2023 4:28 pm

Another Wake-Up Call’: Senator Calls for Details on Alleged Breach at Alaska Military Base
01:01 ‘Another Wake-Up Call’: Senator Calls for Details on Alleged Breach at Alaska Military Base
03:01 Pentagon Funds Missile Program at China-Linked University
05:15 U.S. Top CEOs Flock to China Amid ‘De-Risking’ Call
06:57 China ‘Firmly Deplores’ U.S.-Taiwan Trade Deal
08:15 Canadian Pension Fund CDPQ Halts China Investment
09:53 Tiananmen Square Museum Opens in NYC
11:49 Former Judge Flees China Amid Crackdown on Dissent

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 4:29 pm

Yes, but they have generally gone for less because they had media, etc. support. My problem with this route is it just looks like the centre-right calling it in again rather in order to avoid the lever of state power.

There’s been lots of shareholder activism going through the courts that aren’t about kids being born with three heads and no arms and never make it to the regular press and you only read about it financial news.

The most frightening thing that could happen to a corp is what happening to Bud . Death by a thousand cuts. You bet that large corp boards are looking into the marketing strategies with a laser.

cohenite
June 3, 2023 4:29 pm

Johnsays:
June 3, 2023 at 4:20 pm
Nobody has picked up on the obvious flaw of the BRS judgement, that came in two (2) parts.
Part 1 was that BRS was obviously defamed. There is no dispute here.

The massive flaw is that the Judge ruled that the defamers had truth on their side. They didn’t!

Good analysis.

Vicki
Vicki
June 3, 2023 4:30 pm

BRS was a corporal, subject to a long chain of command. It was the duty of those above him and ultimately the Special Forces Commander-in-Chief at that time, to manage deployment effectively.
=> A reasonable person should expect a competent Commander-in-Chief to be aware of the impact of battle on his frontline troops.

“Known…or should have known…” It was not as though BRS was a “newbie” or that the state of play was not famously known in the Australian corps.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 4:32 pm

Purely anecdotal, but I don’t get the impression that there’s anything like an organised conservative boycott happening. Just ordinary people going: ‘No. No, I don’t need this shit, not at all…’

It’s very pernicious in the worst possible way. Rather than ending suddenly it appears to be gaining ground which likely means buddies talking to each other and swearing off bud. You don’t know where it stops and also appears really determined.

cohenite
June 3, 2023 4:36 pm

And as a follow up: what were BRS’s instructions. This judgment was on the basis of conventional warfare and Geneva conventions. Did the instructions circumvent that. Every second Hollywood movie is about black ops, FFS.

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 4:41 pm

No other western people would sustain and accept the IRA.

Neither do the Irish. They had Irish Army Rangers ready to blow the heads off any would be assassin of the Queen when she visited. They found a plot and arrests were made. They work with the PSNI and Special Branch.

They also fought a war and won against the IRA who were always a minority and for almost a century now, a fringe group.

The IRA also exist in Ulster. Your comment was fairly stupid, to be gentle about the matter.

Did the common Irish citizen find the IRA? No.

This is all common knowledge.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 4:43 pm

the things Roberts-Smith was doing and coercing others under his authority to do were psychopthic and terrible for morale

Eddles, since when exactly did you become some sort of authority on engaging in counter insurgency actions in Afghanistan?

Just reading your increasingly ridiculous comments is enough to result in an unnecessary degradation of brain function. Which is why I don’t but I do recognise your irredeemable idiocy when it’s reposted as quotes in others’ comments.

For goodness’ sake, just stop it, you boated sack of protoplasm.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 4:44 pm

bloated, FFS …

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 3, 2023 4:48 pm

Rather than ending suddenly it appears to be gaining ground which likely means buddies talking to each other and swearing off bud. You don’t know where it stops and also appears really determined.

That is exactly what I see.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 3, 2023 4:50 pm

Seriously, just look at this barely functional cretin …

Rabz, that was taken before the liposuction, hair dye and John Curtin glasses. He’s a real shtick magnet now.

He’s still got that weasely voice. They can’t replace that.

bespoke
bespoke
June 3, 2023 4:54 pm

I think you can safely say, that those that engaged violently on Jan 6 would have deserved the cane. Those that simply walked through the place under direction of the Capitol Police and didn’t destroy any property would not

Theoreticly yes but in reality that is not what is happening. Interesting online discussion sure but totally use when I or my wife is discussing law reform with other activist. It would be a distraction to the more pressing problems of inconsistent sentencing.

rickw
rickw
June 3, 2023 4:56 pm

conservative boycotts are now a real force, after a few sputtering false starts.
This one has cut deep and hard, and has been sustained over a long enough period to conclude that this is a permanent change in customer buying patterns.

Conservative consumers have now got a taste of blood.

They will comprehensively f’ck any company that chooses to f’ck with them.

Rabz
June 3, 2023 4:58 pm

Chris Kenny spent a lot of words in today’s Oz telling his readers not to be divisive or mention the race word when discussing the The Voice.

Kenny’s simpering on that topic is pathetic.

It is so obvious that he’s in favour of the screech so as not to be disinvited from future dinner parties hosted by his collectivist confreres in various tealfilth electorates across the nation.

And even worse, he’s from Adelaide. As is Fishnets Downer, fatty Caleb, that barking mad pizza boxes public ‘elf Karen and I won’t mention the many mass murderers residing in that preposterous back o’ buggery hellhole.

We can complain all we like (and rightly so) about Disasterstan, but it’s actually SA that’s our equivalent of Canuckistan.

It’s enough to make Eddles want to don a pair of pink hotpants, hop onto an elephelant’s back and start spouting Vogon poetry, I tells ya.

rickw
rickw
June 3, 2023 4:59 pm

That is exactly what I see.

I have a screenshot of AB’s brands, use it to select beverage purchases. Corona was well suited to the weather here, no off the list.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 3, 2023 5:02 pm

and I won’t mention the many mass murderers residing in that preposterous back o’ buggery hellhole.

Two pass-times in Adelaide – serial killing and incest.

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2023 5:02 pm

I am a big fan of the youtuber Metatron, an Italian from Naples who now lives in the USA. On his channel, he talks about the following, languages, videogames, medieval weapons and armours, and history. He detests woke revisionist history, such as the ludicrous fashion in the West of putting race into everything, particularly one race, sub-Saharan African, which now means we have the ludicrous bullshit of a black Cleopatra, a black Margaret of Anjou, a black Queen Charlotte, and a black Anne Boleyn, and that Roman Europe was “multi-racial”….laughable. As Metatron says, it isn’t just ludicrous, it’s also deeply offensive. He counters such nonsense with facts.

Here’s his latest….The TRUTH About Historical Revisionism, Once and For All

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-fK55zA4iY

bespoke
bespoke
June 3, 2023 5:08 pm

We can complain all we like (and rightly so) about Disasterstan, but it’s actually SA that’s our equivalent of Canuckistan.

Downer is from the Adelaide Hills where Bear frolics with his cousin.

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2023 5:10 pm

“fatty Caleb”

I don’t mind Caleb.

P
P
June 3, 2023 5:17 pm

Rabz, that was taken before the liposuction, hair dye and John Curtin glasses. He’s a real shtick magnet now.

He’s still got that weasely voice. They can’t replace that.

Doc Evatt glasses. Chech out A.A. and H.V.E.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 5:20 pm

P, lol. They’re just both round. The only two choices are squarish or roundish and he chose the latter. I wouldn’t put to much emphasis on that.
Square or round, he’s a first class moron and neither shape is going to hide that fact.

Cronkite wears round ones too, he once said.

rosie
rosie
June 3, 2023 5:21 pm

Basque separatists, red brigade, Spanish Civil War, not to mention two world wars, one of which Ireland was engaged in by virtue only of being part of the UK, the other in which she was neutral.
IRA was Marxist in nature, so they weren’t on their Pat Malone.
I’m thinking Ireland wasn’t so bad, civil unrest wise, in the 20th Century.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 3, 2023 5:22 pm

Doc Evatt glasses. Chech out A.A. and H.V.E.

Evatt ended his days as Chief Justice of New South Wales. Critics described him as “incontinent” and “barking mad.”

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 5:23 pm

Hello noble ones!

Jada Pinkett Amaru Shakur Smith isn’t a historian? Damn, she had me fooled!

Dot
Dot
June 3, 2023 5:26 pm

Ireland was tacitly an ally of Britain, like the Swiss.

Giving safety to RAF planes and arresting German spies, now that’s soldiering.

JC
JC
June 3, 2023 5:30 pm

This can’t be true , surely. If it is it would have to be parents, surely.

The_Real_Fly
@The_Real_Fly
In the span of two weeks, nearly 30 children have vanished in Cleveland, sparking concern from a local police chief who said he hasn’t seen anything like this in his 33-year career

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2023 5:30 pm

Was Calwell a Papal Knight?
Gerard Henderson was carrying water for Calwell in his screed yesterday, he also gave an excruciating rationalisation for Calwell’s
2 Wongs don’t make a White remark.

calli
calli
June 3, 2023 5:30 pm

I noticed those Gravitas Goggles last year. Hilarious and a sign of weakness when you have to appropriate a “look” for respect.

Reminds me of Hacker defending the British sausage.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
June 3, 2023 5:31 pm

I prefer Connoisseur ice cream, or even better, home made ice cream.

On the encouragement I offer my cherry and amaretto gelato made with love and light

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2023 5:33 pm

Lotta negroes in Cleveland, if it’s like everywhere else, they’re outta control and the cops don’t care. Are the kids White or non white, that’s the important question.

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2023 5:34 pm

“On the encouragement I offer my cherry and amaretto gelato made with love and light”

Which I’ve been fortunate to taste Tinta, to quote the late Joan Campbell…..bloody delicious.

Cassie of Sydney
June 3, 2023 5:34 pm

“On the encouragement I offer my cherry and amaretto gelato made with love and light”

Which I’ve been fortunate to taste Tinta, to quote the late Joan Campbell…..bloody delicious.

Entropy
Entropy
June 3, 2023 5:35 pm

To be fair Ed, while the Calwell blooper was definitely excruciating, and not excusing it, I would have to say the context of the statement was quite different to that I had assumed. You learn something everyday.

cohenite
June 3, 2023 5:36 pm

Cronkite wears round ones too, he once said.

That’s right, I do; and when I take them off I’m Superman.

calli
calli
June 3, 2023 5:36 pm

Cassie loves it twice as much! Home made gelato is great – raspberry is my speciality. And the left over yolks can go to a creme pat for glazed fruit tarts. Win-win.

Entropy
Entropy
June 3, 2023 5:37 pm

I will just say this, after starting off with a blood test, then a day of car washing, mowing a large lawn and extensive gardening, there is something to be said for a finish with a green tea (no milk nor sugar) and a handful of gingernut biscuits for dunking.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2023 5:39 pm

Here’s the skinny on the Roberts-Smith failure:

Ben Roberts-Smith’s whole case crashed once it was shown that Roberts-Smith and four of his witnesses colluded in giving false evidence about an Afghan soldier dubbed “Person 12” shooting a dog and being banned from patrolling with Australian soldiers.

“The evidence over the dog is potentially critical because the newspapers allege that Person 12 was present during a later Australian mission to Khaz Uruzgan in October 2012, and that Roberts-Smith ordered him to command one of his subordinates to kill a prisoner. Roberts-Smith told the court the allegation cannot be true because Person 12 wasn’t there.” (Click here to read more)

It turns out that Person 12 never shot the dog nor was he banned from patrolling with Australian soldiers and Ben Roberts-Smith later conceded that in court.

That’s from Kangaroo Court of Australia.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 3, 2023 5:39 pm

Downer is from the Adelaide Hills where Bear frolics with his cousin.

That really is quite unfair. If one must be In Radelaide head for the hills.

calli
calli
June 3, 2023 5:42 pm

I was thinking less Evatt and more Curtin.

And yes, it is deliberate. Workshopped within an inch of its life, as image issues usually are.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 3, 2023 5:42 pm

Doc Evatt glasses. Chech out A.A. and H.V.E.

Separated at birth as they say. Well spotted, P.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 3, 2023 5:43 pm

Special Ed confirms he’s a kangaroo short in the top paddock.

MatrixTransform
June 3, 2023 5:45 pm

question for The Gropers …

if a mong was to travel to Perth for 3 days of business

would that mong and his missus prefer to stay in the city, or in Freo?

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 3, 2023 5:45 pm

And yes, it is deliberate. Workshopped within an inch of its life, as image issues usually are.

Albo knitting the kangaroo. Is it Special Ed’s?

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 3, 2023 5:47 pm

Freo

Frank
Frank
June 3, 2023 5:47 pm

Conservative consumers have now got a taste of blood.

They would be hoping it is just the conservatives, otherwise it is symptomatic of everyone having had it with them which is far worse.

mem
mem
June 3, 2023 5:48 pm

A cold evening at 5.30pm especially in the southern eastern states and the sun is going down. Not much wind either. Across the NEM, comprising Qld, NSW, Vic, SA and Tas, only a total of 8% wind and no sun contributing to the grid. Coal (Black and brown) is the mainstay contributing 67%, hydro at 14% and gas 10%. NSW is importing 1056mw from Vic made possible by a flow-on from Tas hydro and brown coal production in Vic. It is a fine balancing act but one which could snap any minute. Take out any coal at the moment and there would be brown outs. A strange way of managing what is our most important essential service. https://aemo.com.au/en/energy-systems/electricity/national-electricity-market-nem/data-nem/data-dashboard-nem

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 3, 2023 5:48 pm

Perth cbd is a waste land imho

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 3, 2023 5:48 pm

would that mong and his missus prefer to stay in the city, or in Freo?

Tough decision – they are both full of beggars and druggies, but, if you have spare time, there are some interesting things to see, and places to eat, in Freo.

WolfmanOz
June 3, 2023 5:49 pm

John says:
June 3, 2023 at 4:20 pm

Superbly written John.

I’ve been so angry re the whole BRS saga over the last couple of days I just haven’t been able to find the right words to express it . . . You’ve done it so well.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 3, 2023 5:49 pm

Stay in Freo. Just catch the train up to Perf as required. Freo line is relatively salubrious compared to Armadale or Midland. For reference, I always preferred St Kilda to the Melbournibad CBD.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 3, 2023 5:51 pm

______
1 hour ago
Albanese mobbed by locals while sampling beer, banh mi
Ben Packham

Anthony Albanese has been mobbed by locals at a Hanoi beer and banh mi shop as he enjoyed the iconic Vietnamese sandwich and drink combo.

The Prime Minister, who arrived in the city on Saturday afternoon from Singapore, was toasted by the entire restaurant as his security detail sought to keep the crowds at bay.

The beer was made with Australian barley and the baguettes were baked with flour ground from Australian wheat.

“Barley exports grew to Vietnam by some 75 per cent since 2020,” Mr Albanese said.

“And Vietnam is one of the top 10 users consumers of beer in the word. Just about all of the barley that goes into that product is from Australia.”

Has Albo done anything else, since becoming Prime Minister, bar swill beer and travel?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 3, 2023 5:52 pm

Nice, Entropy.

When I were but a teen one of my chores was mowing the lawn. Even on a hot Summer morning, after the front and back lawns done, after clearing my nose of all the polled and dust that had built up, and while my hands still had that buzzing sensation from the lawn mower engine rattling my hands on the handle – there was a sublime experience sitting down outside with a big mug of tea with milk and sugar.

A 2-stroke lawn mower, a yard, and a humble cup of tea. Bliss.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 3, 2023 5:52 pm

Perth cbd is a waste land imho

Hard to argue with that. There are a handful of decent shops and restaurants if you know where to look.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 3, 2023 5:53 pm

after clearing my nose of all the polled pollen

Auto-corrupt is just weird.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 3, 2023 5:54 pm

Has Albo done anything else, since becoming Prime Minister, bar swill beer and travel?

Sitzpinkler!

cohenite
June 3, 2023 5:55 pm

Saturday night titles for the jaded:

69 Barrow Street: Susan did not know why but the sight of a beautiful woman set her heart throbbing with desire. Like a moth to a flame she found herself on the steps of the house where beautiful women went to quell their lust.

Unwilling Sinner; Ellie Mae was a nympho; every boy in Riverton had sampled her exquisite charms. But she did not want to be the town round-heels. She fought the desires that pulsated inside her at the touch of a man but always succumbed in an avalanche of bliss. When she married Dick she thought her unnatural cravings would end but they were just beginning!

Private Party: they were classmates and the closest of friends. Chaperoned by an older, wiser coed they set off on the trip of a lifetime. Away from home and eager for thrills they were guests of honour at a special party attended only by women. It was a party which lasted for days and its erotic effects for a lifetime. Once back at school in the tiny room they shared their relationship had undergone a drastic change: one was now the demanding mistress, the other the ecstatic love slave!

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 3, 2023 5:56 pm

Well, it was a play on words, but the explanation is still excruciating.
It’s Calwell’s, he was still making excuses for it until the day he died, but to accept the explanation, you’ve gotta accept that he was totally unaware of the slant that 999,999 out of a million would put on the remark
2 Wongs don’t make a White

Rabz
June 3, 2023 5:57 pm

Both finals, live, on Paramount/10 tonight … A League & FA Cup …

Thanks for the reminder, Shatterzzzz

Not to mention the Champs’ League Final, 11 June, Manchester City V Internazionale at the Atatürk Olympic Stadium.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 3, 2023 5:57 pm

Albo knows that like Gillard the best thing he can do to raise his popularity in Australia is leave. Not waving. Drowning. Mr 32% is sinking under the waves.

MatrixTransform
June 3, 2023 6:00 pm

In fact, there is a great deal of evidence for the thesis that culture is downstream of politics/ law/ morality.

hmm … earlier I wanted to bundle “politics/ law/ morality” and I also had ethics tacked on as well

backspaced over it

Put the question of where it derives to one side, the distinction ‘absolute v relative’ is easily accounted for by the absurdity that ‘relative’ morality entails.

ah, the dichotomy
if relative morality is absurd
then absolute morality must be a thing

If someone is arguing that morality is relative to ‘place’ or ‘time’ or ‘culture’ it loses its character as morality

if morality is a thing … then why so many versions
one flavour certainly must be the correct flavour

which absolutely begs the question, where does it come from

calli
calli
June 3, 2023 6:00 pm

I remember Howard having a “make-over” too. And, of course, Julia. All part of projecting an image right for times.

And who can forget this sweet innocuous little thing?

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 3, 2023 6:01 pm

The banh mi is potentially the world’s greatest sandwich though. And a good pho beats a good laksa too IMO.

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  2. Yep. Cloudseeding. https://twitter.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1792242077733904385?t=L_gtHYrngLRo6890R84TFg&s=19

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