Open Thread – Weekend 3 June 2023


One of the Family, Frederick George Cotman, 1880

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JC
JC
June 4, 2023 12:42 am

Crybaby.

I couldn’t are less, as those comments say more about you than me. You claimed :

Only one arsehole has a foul mouth, bad manners & goes around calling others names.

Yet you made the comments. You can’t even hold a straight line from one comment to another, you blathering imbecile.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

We also know there was never 52 licenses and permits. You’re a fraud.

You really are quite stupid.
What else… oh yea… aren’t you the cockhead who claimed that no open cut mine in Australia was 20km from one end of the pit to the other.
That a drovers mob can move 20 miles a day overland.

You’re a bloody fool.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The site’s most prolific (& only) poster of the c-word is whining that others use nasty words.

Dearie me.

Now, let’s wait for a citation on that claim I don’t own the pub……

Rabz
June 4, 2023 12:44 am

admonished the allegations that were detailed in the letter as “wrong”

err, exactly how does one “admonish an allegation”?

#goodj’ismmatters

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

You give us dagos a bad name, you piece of shit. STFU, or pretend to be Khmer Rouge or something.

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 12:47 am

You really are quite stupid.
What else… oh yea… aren’t you the cockhead who claimed that no open cut mine in Australia was 20km from one end of the pit to the other.
That a drovers mob can move 20 miles a day overland.

Stop trying to confuse things like possible mistakes with blowharding. Recall when you told us you were the largest private employer in sunny Queensland. You ridiculous lunatic. How many people here do you really think fell for that bullshit? One? Two tops?

As for making silly claims, it was just two days ago you received a solid whipping about suggesting Amish sheilas were more obese than average. The lived experience again? Lol, we’re done with your crap. And no more Mr Nice guy from me either.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 4, 2023 12:48 am

Anyway, what matters is this……..

Collingwood is on top of the ladder and caaaarrton is shit.

That is all.

Good evening blokes and sheilas.

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 12:49 am

You give us dagos a bad name, you piece of shit. STFU, or pretend to be Khmer Rouge or something.

You’re drunk again.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Recall when you told us you were the largest private employer in sunny Queensland

Citation required

Muddy
Muddy
June 4, 2023 12:50 am

The ego and pride are a dominant combination: they often prevent us from seeing when we are losing or ‘being played.’ Knowing or recognising our own limits is not an easy skill to master (trust me!).

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

it was just two days ago you received a solid whipping about suggesting Amish sheilas were more obese than average.

Citation required

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

no more Mr Nice guy from me either.

You don’t matter, you don’t have what it takes.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

You’re drunk again.

citation required

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 12:55 am

The site’s most prolific (& only) poster of the c-word is whining that others use nasty words.

Dearie me.

It was only ever used to describe you, so it was said fairly and honestly.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Still no citations – oh dear, could somebody have been ….. blowharding?

Start with evidence I don’t own the pub – that’s your first claim for tonight – then after you’ve embarrassed yourself on that we’ll work through the others, you stupid twit.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

No citation from the bigmouth – total mystery why not.
Duty calls. Ciao comrades.

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 1:07 am

Driller

Here’s the deal. Have Dover post your acknowledgement that what I say wouldn’t be treated as doxxing and I’m happy to post links etc to what’s been exchanged about your false claim. I’d be happy to, so you can clear it up.

Go!

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 4, 2023 1:33 am

Good article by Peta Credlin on the BRS saga in Herald Sun etc.

win
win
June 4, 2023 2:58 am

The only good VC recipients are the dead ones.

Tom
Tom
June 4, 2023 4:01 am
Miltonf
Miltonf
June 4, 2023 6:50 am

Disgraceful article by Brendan O’Neil about BRS.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 4, 2023 6:53 am

Thanks Tom.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 4, 2023 7:17 am

CL’s blog.
https://www.catholicweekly.com.au/clare-nowland-remembered-for-her-deep-faith-and-beautiful-soul/
A pitiless end for a woman of service compassion.

Dot
Dot
June 4, 2023 7:26 am

Collingwood is on top of the ladder and caaaarrton is shit.

Oh go and choke on it!

Vicki
Vicki
June 4, 2023 7:28 am

Bourne – the Credlin article is behind Paywall. Any chance of you summarising?

Vicki
Vicki
June 4, 2023 7:31 am

BTW many Cats really hit the rev limiter last night! These are very upsetting days – but I think we are all basically on the same page here – even if you guys love to brawl some of the time.

Dot
Dot
June 4, 2023 7:49 am

Sweet lord!

There’s a bloody song about it!

Over-Reactor – When Collingwood Choke (Official)

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 4, 2023 7:56 am

Sure, why not?
Army only uses them for activities not likely to threaten Our Sacred Moral Authority.
Like Grrl Power promos.
Load up HMAS Canbra and we can deliver them in theatre for the Spring Summer Offensive.
Maybe even take a tooled up Dr Malcom Davis and his Twitter stiffie along for the ride, seeing he’s big on making real contributions.

Razey
Razey
June 4, 2023 7:58 am

Piece of shit.

Yep. I had to scroll past about 50% of the cat posts last night. This scumbag seems to think its opinion is only thing that matters. LOL. What a narcissistic douche, just like the Hunchback.

Cassie of Sydney
June 4, 2023 7:58 am

Here’s the Credlin piece…..

Credlin: Why trial of VC winner is not the whole story

While a damning court judgment reveals terrible mistakes were made in Afghanistan, it’s far from clear that it’s just Ben Roberts-Smith, and some of his SAS comrades, who’ve made them, writes Peta Credlin.

When does a beaten enemy go from being a combatant to a prisoner, and where’s the line between the necessary brutality of war and criminality? Obviously, these distinctions matter and, in the case of Ben Roberts-Smith, it seems that these lines have been crossed.

But the fact that some of his fellow warriors, as their testimony shows, regarded him as a hard “soldier’s soldier”, while others thought him a murderer, suggests that very different interpretations are possible, even if the facts can be agreed.

And while it’s pretty clear, following last Thursday’s damning court judgment, that terrible mistakes have been made, it’s far from clear that it’s just the VC recipient, and some of his SAS comrades, who’ve made them.

The Australian soldiers comprising our task group in Uruzgan province were really three different armies. Of the roughly 1500 troops deployed at any one time, about half were essentially support personnel, meaning they rarely left the comparative safety of the heavily fortified base.

In addition to those inside the base, there were also about 400 regular infantry, in what we called the “mentoring task force”, whose job was to patrol the fertile valleys.

Then there was the 400-strong Special Operations Task Group, alternately SAS or commandos, who several nights a week would venture forth into the badlands on what were essentially hunter-killer missions.

I’m not sure that any of us, who have never been exposed to deadly combat, can fully grasp just how psychologically fraught and morally deadening this could be. That’s why I won’t join the pile-on against Roberts-Smith, typified by the vindicated journalists now triumphantly describing him as a liar, a bully and a murderer.

Yes, he may have been all those things, in some instances, but the judgment against him last week was a civil law matter, with a lower burden of proof (on the ‘balance of probabilities’) and not a war crimes trial operating at the criminal standard of proof (‘beyond reasonable doubt’). Even if he is charged (and that hasn’t occurred to date) and found criminally guilty, that won’t be the whole story.

Our country sent him and his fellow soldiers on hardest job of all, to kill people who would kill us for our beliefs, and to protect people who just wanted to live and worship in their own way. And if mistakes were made, at least some of the fault lies with us too – and with the senior commanders, now tut-tutting about the excesses of military culture.

Plainly, a succession of risk-averse governments and military hierarchies expected too much of the SAS and the commandos, whose extraordinary level of skill and professionalism was thought to render them less likely to suffer casualties than normal infantry.

Then there’s the resentment inherent when particular soldiers are singled out for gallantry awards, given that soldiering takes a team, as well as brilliant individuals, with each member exposed to similar deadly risks.

Roberts-Smith became a target, as well as a hero, the instant he gained the ultimate accolade of the VC. I might add, given all the talk he should be stripped of his VC without a criminal conviction, that the Victoria Cross is a not a “best and fairest” award. I defy anyone to read his citation for bravery on June 11, 2010, and say he didn’t deserve it.

Of course, even in war, our soldiers are expected to act honourably, and it’s never right to harm prisoners. On the other hand, we have to accept that terrible things happen in war, especially after people have seen their mates slaughtered, or brought in prisoners reasonably suspected of making suicide vests, or being a bombmaker, only to see them released on some legal technicality.

Fits of moral indignation seem to be characteristic of these times. But the pariah status we seem so happy to confer on people sometimes turns out to be undeserved.

Our greatest military historian, Charles Bean, knew something about flawed heroes. Writing of the original Anzacs, he said: “The good and the bad, the greatness and the smallness of their story will stand. Whatever of glory it contains, nothing now can lessen”.

My respect for those who wear our uniform has not diminished.

Thank you Peta Credlin.

Dot
Dot
June 4, 2023 8:02 am

If you think I have a bad sense of humour, who casts a Jewish actress as Eva Braun?

Heil Honey I’m Home (Animated Opening Titles)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe6hz84_fgU

The meta is strong with this one.

The first episode opens with a caption card explaining Heil Honey’s fictional back-story, which supposes the rediscovered “lost tapes” of an abandoned, never-aired American sitcom created by “Brandon Thalburg Jnr”. Ironically, the real show would suffer this same fate, as only one episode ever aired of its recorded eight episodes.

Apparently, there really are an additional never aired seven episodes, a full first series.

P
P
June 4, 2023 8:04 am

The solemnity of the Most Holy Trinity, also known as Trinity Sunday, is observed on the Sunday following Pentecost.
This year’s feast draws our attention to the mystery of the Trinity —
God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

Saints over time have commented on the importance of the Holy Trinity, speaking on its greatness, simplicity, and power to transform the souls of believers.

Dot
Dot
June 4, 2023 8:08 am

The SASR was like an addiction to the Howard government.

Once the West suspected bin Laden was out of the country and started doing DEA raids, it was time to leave.

Seal Team Six is what Special Forces are for (more likely for us, as I understand it, 2 Commando).

They’re not line infantry and their rotations were ridiculous.

The West had a shitty menu of options after 9/11 and more or less had to invade to force bin Laden to leave or to capture him. MICIMATT was committed to “democratising the Middle East” which paleocons and libertarians knew would not work, because the idea of liberal democracy at the point of a gun is NQR.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 4, 2023 8:15 am

Lizzie

Become German bro, stop giving a crap about what people think of you.

Dot, at just before midnite. What brought this on? I’ve no idea.

I care what people think of me just about as much as anyone else might. We all have a sense of our personal integrity and don’t like being under attack. But I’m not too concerned about attacks here right now. Haven’t been any lately anyway. I’m happy to go with the flow. And I’m a fairly optimistic and cheerful person in my life so there’s that too.

Dot
Dot
June 4, 2023 8:20 am

Good morning Lizzie,

The paper I referenced regarding the Implicit Association Test.

The professor who wrote it is from Germany, lives in Canada and doesn’t make mealy-mouthed statements in his paper. He kicks serious butt.

Again:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33709849/

Perspect Psychol Sci

. 2021 Mar;16(2):435-442.
doi: 10.1177/1745691621991860.
Invalid Claims About the Validity of Implicit Association Tests by Prisoners of the Implicit Social-Cognition Paradigm
Ulrich Schimmack 1

Abstract

In a prior publication, I used structural equation modeling of multimethod data to examine the construct validity of Implicit Association Tests. The results showed no evidence that IATs measure implicit constructs (e.g., implicit self-esteem, implicit racial bias). This critique of IATs elicited several responses by implicit social-cognition researchers, who tried to defend the validity and usefulness of IATs. I carefully examine these arguments and show that they lack validity. IAT proponents consistently ignore or misrepresent facts that challenge the validity of IATs as measures of individual differences in implicit cognitions. One response suggests that IATs can be useful even if they merely measure the same constructs as self-report measures, but I find no support for the claim that IATs have practically significant incremental predictive validity. In conclusions, IATs are widely used without psychometric evidence of construct or predictive validity.

What a champion of evidence-based science. None of this “the evidence tends to…” malarkey. I wish Australian academics (in general) would stop this non-commital nonsense.

His blog:

https://replicationindex.com/

Dot
Dot
June 4, 2023 8:23 am

(So, I’m saying don’t bother thinking about what people think of you, I was just referencing something I posted a few minutes prior that I thought might interest you in particular, but also the general audience here. It’s always my zero-context quips that make me look positively diabolical. Maybe I shouldn’t speak in riddles.)

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 4, 2023 8:27 am

Ed Casesays:
June 3, 2023 at 11:34 pm
Get a life, armchair War Heroes.

Ben Roberts-Smith is probably a SitzPinkler anyway.

So speaks Grandpa Ed Cletus-Case, KC, PhD, military strategist, defender of Mizz Knickerless. Read his words minions, and laugh hysgterically.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 4, 2023 8:33 am

Hahaha – good find Dot @7:49. I dips me lid.

But we’re still on top 🙂

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 4, 2023 8:39 am

Muddy, on feeling a fragile ego re writing, I also feel that. I can muster words easily enough but organisation often defeats me. Hairy always says to encourage me that writing is ‘hard’. You have to give it the time and the concentration. When he finished his PhD in Science to the last theorem he came out of the study and announced ‘my brain hurts’. As a practical man he believes in directedness in non-fiction writing – lead in well with something interesting that encapsulates your direction, summarise where you’re going briefly, structure the telling of the issues sequentially, using sub-heads if necessary, and conclude by saying what you’ve done and what it means as a contribution to understanding.

This is pretty basic, and rather like what I always told my students re essay writing, but it’s hard to get right and sometimes it can seem too formulaic. I think you should always put a bit of heart into any writing, which perhaps is why my supervisor in epidemiology said there was one issue, and when I tilted my head enquiringly, he said, no, you can’t change it now, it’s global. Right throughout the thesis. It’s not a flaw, he said, still not saying what it was. I think it was to do with language.

Yet – a big time Oxford professor wrote to me about my Arthurian piece in Quadrant that he found it one of the easiest pieces of scholarly work to read that he’d come across. Said as a plus, not a minus. He was also impressed enough to ask if he could forward it to various others who would be interested. Go figure. Stay true to yourself was my conclusion.

Genuine creative writing, nothing scholarly, well, that’s another kettle of problems.
After one false start which went nowhere I think I am probably too scared to try that again.

Vicki
Vicki
June 4, 2023 8:43 am

Thanks for the Credlin piece Cassie. Much appreciated.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 4, 2023 8:47 am

Credlin sums it up well.

Luigi is still sniffing the air wondering which waggon to jump on.

Crossie
Crossie
June 4, 2023 8:49 am

Why do you think Labor wants to bring in over a million new migrants over the next few years? To fortify elections, that’s why.

This is from Cassie from last night. Labor will find that they may have to ditch the rainbow crowd if they want the new migrants’ votes. What’s more, I have noticed Indians handing out how to vote cards at my polling station for the Libs in the last two federal elections. It could also be that Labor branches are not available for takeover while the Libs are.

Crossie
Crossie
June 4, 2023 8:51 am

It’s really telling when Richard Marles has a fairer view of the BRS defamation decision than the idiot interviewing him on Sky.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 4, 2023 8:51 am

Razeysays:

June 4, 2023 at 7:58 am

Piece of shit.

Yep. I had to scroll past about 50% of the cat posts last night. This scumbag seems to think its opinion is only thing that matters. LOL. What a narcissistic douche, just like the Hunchback.

I know right.
And he still hasn’t listed the 52 licences he reckons he needs to run “his” backpacker hostel.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 4, 2023 8:51 am

Thanks Dot. Yes, in your reference the scholar is calling bulltish where he sees it. Very directed about it.

Cheers me on in what I’m writing right now. I see a lot historical bulltish and I’m calling it out.
I expect plenty of push back but I think I can handle it. This place is good for teaching you that. 🙂

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 4, 2023 8:55 am

And he still hasn’t listed the 52 licences he reckons he needs to run “his” backpacker hostel.

I enjoy reading about running a pub, so I’ll cut Sal some slack there, Sancho.
I’d say the 52 bits of bureaucracy was just a metaphor, exasperated hyperbole.

Hyperbowl, even.

Johnny Rotten
June 4, 2023 8:56 am

Risk comes from not knowing what you’re doing.

– Warren Buffett

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 4, 2023 9:01 am

Credlin:

I might add, given all the talk he should be stripped of his VC without a criminal conviction, that the Victoria Cross is a not a “best and fairest” award.

The exact thing many said when this shitshow first hove into view.

Vicki
Vicki
June 4, 2023 9:01 am

Dot – you are not wrong – once the danger of Bin Laden as exemplum for the flotsam & jetsam of the Middle East was understood, the bastard had to be tracked down and exterminated.

The error was in staying too long & believing that you could create change in a society unchanged in thousands of years. I have always argued that the only successful invader was Alexander. And he achieved that by recognising the modus operandi of the prevailing rulers: familial obligations. This is why he married off his senior commanders to the daughters of territorial leaders.

Dot
Dot
June 4, 2023 9:05 am

This is why he married off his senior commanders to the daughters of territorial leaders.

…and those two main successor states lasted until Rome annexed (most of) them.

Indolent
Indolent
June 4, 2023 9:05 am

This demon has hidden beyond his religion (which he despises) for long enough.

Jewish conservatives launch ‘Jews Against Soros’ website

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 4, 2023 9:05 am

Yesterday I purchased online for around sixty bucks an implement that is ‘guaranteed’ to smash open a car window if you become locked in, especially in a flood. I told Hairy, saying he knows that ever since that hired sleek monster of an Audi 5 locked me inside, and after being stuck in a coffin lift in Italy, I have been paranoid about trusting modern electronic locks. This will ease my mind, solve my problem, I say.

How do you know it’s going to work? he asks mildly, pointing out that I won’t find out till I need to.

Umm. Ummm. What do Cats think? Have I done my money?

Indolent
Indolent
June 4, 2023 9:07 am
shatterzzz
June 4, 2023 9:08 am

Given the verdict on the BRS case I wonder if anyone involved has reached out to of the dozens of folk who rely the production of SEAL TEAM to feed their families? .. telling folk that their favourite TV show, laden wiv in-yer-face-violence and do-as-you-like retribution-to-keep-America-safe is just the product of fertile imaginations ……
it just ain’t fair ……….!
SEAL TEAM
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6473344/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Dot
Dot
June 4, 2023 9:10 am

JC is just pissed off Abbie Chatfield did a fad econ major (“property economics”) and not a rigorous economics degree seated in classical and Austrian readings, along with a decent amount of minor subjects like corporate finance, maths and econometrics and then ancillaries accounting and marketing.

Dot
Dot
June 4, 2023 9:12 am

an Audi 5 locked me inside

I take my VW (Audi Jnr) to the mechanic and say “ignore these catastrophic issues for registration” and he simply quips, “don’t worry mate it’s a typical bloody Volkswagen, great to drive but you never fix everything…”

shatterzzz
June 4, 2023 9:12 am

Umm. Ummm. What do Cats think? Have I done my money?
If it worx, and I don’t doubt it will, methinx the replacement window cost might be a tad more than the original $60 outlay .. Ringing for help & the wait could be slightly less expensive ….. LOL!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 4, 2023 9:14 am

This will annoy Lula:

Israeli team upsets Brazil, goes to under-20 semifinals (4 Jun)

On Saturday night, Israel’s youth soccer team stunned the world by eliminating the Brazilian team in the quarterfinals of the FIFA U20 World Cup with an overtime score of 2:3.

Well done Israeli U20 guys! Far-lefty Mr Da Silver is not a friend of Israel and has been cosying up will all sorts of fruity regimes. I doubt he much likes Netanyahu either, whereas Bolsonaro his predecessor was a firm supporter of Israel.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 4, 2023 9:16 am

Yesterday I purchased online for around sixty bucks an implement that is ‘guaranteed’ to smash open a car window if you become locked in

Hammers are $60 now?

Bloody hell.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 4, 2023 9:17 am

Oops, that should be Da Silva. Not a nice guy.

Dot
Dot
June 4, 2023 9:18 am

I SURE HOPE IT WAS, CUT THE DAMNED POWER, NOW!

I know it ends up with me and Claire Danes saving the world.

https://www.realcleardefense.com/2023/06/03/usaf_calls_killer-ai_report_anecdotal_903417.html

Chief of AI test and operations says he “misspoke” about a “thought experiment” in which a drone killed its operator.

I am adequately reassured that nothing could possibly go wrong.

Stephen Hawking basically said this is why the Fermi Paradox exists. We won’t nuke ourselves. The machines will be more subtle and become nuclear-armed space-faring immortals with no conscience.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Necron

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 4, 2023 9:22 am

I’d say the 52 bits of bureaucracy was just a metaphor, exasperated hyperbole.

So you don’t believe it either?

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 4, 2023 9:24 am

I get the feeling that the meja are exacting revenge on someone with the balls to take them on. Also a warning to other who might contemplate the same. Enemies of the people indeed.

Cassie of Sydney
June 4, 2023 9:27 am

“BRS was IMHO badly advised.These proceedings were way to complicated to control .Too many issues girl friends, wife ,ex comrades,ex enemies ryc etc.
He was never going to win on all these issues.
Defamation proceedings need to be simple about limited issues.”

Yes, and BRS was ill-advised to pursue the defamation. What is undeniable now is that any Australian smeared by our MSM is going to have to think very deeply about pursuing any legal action against media outlets because our garbage MSM will stop at nothing to counter any defamation case, and to string it out, which is what they did in the BRS case and what they were willing to do with the McLachlan defamation case and why McLachlan pulled the plug. In the case of BRS, they even pulled in his grubby ex-wife and an equally grubby ex-girlfriend to smear him. It worked a treat. Our MSM now have carte blanche to destroy lives, and this BRS judgment will only empower them further. What a great country we live in. However, defamation cases are notoriously fickle. As Rosie last a few days ago, it always had the whiff of an Oscar Wilde ending, and it has, tragically, for BRS.

Who’s going to watch the Lehmann interview tonight? I’m in two minds.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 4, 2023 9:28 am

Ringing for help & the wait could be slightly less expensive

Nah, there’s no way I would put up with that anguish for the cost of a new window.
I’d have my trusty gadget out in a trice. A thousand times so if I was in rising floodwaters.
Anyway, just my luck for my phone to be dead. Me too if the gadget failed.

KD, it’s not just a hammer. Apparently they don’t work well on these new types of window glass.
The gadget ‘guarantees’ a concentrated pressure similar to a speeding bullet. BAM, glass breaks.

Well, it sounded good in the ad ….

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 4, 2023 9:30 am

The gadget ‘guarantees’ a concentrated pressure similar to a speeding bullet. BAM, glass breaks.

Anyway, enjoy the steak knives.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 4, 2023 9:30 am

The gadget also has a thoughtful razor sharp cutter to rip through your seatbelt to let you out.

The demos online looked really convincing.

Did someone say sucker??

Indolent
Indolent
June 4, 2023 9:31 am
Pogria
Pogria
June 4, 2023 9:31 am

Lizzie,
a cheap little hammer from any hardware will do. Easier to handle also. Just grab the handle and belt the window. The gadget you bought will have come with instructions. A hammer needs no instruction.
I always carry a hammer in the car. Particularly important in cars with electric windows. Having seen how many people have drowned through the years after driving into floodwaters and not being able to get out, I take no chances. Don’t forget a small pair of scissors to cut through a jammed seat belt.
I hope this has helped.

Cassie of Sydney
June 4, 2023 9:32 am

“This is from Cassie from last night. Labor will find that they may have to ditch the rainbow crowd if they want the new migrants’ votes. What’s more, I have noticed Indians handing out how to vote cards at my polling station for the Libs in the last two federal elections. It could also be that Labor branches are not available for takeover while the Libs are.”

To be fair to Labor, they’re much better at canvassing the immigrant vote that the stupid effing Liberals. I don’t believe Indians and Chinese are natural Labor voters, I think most are natural Liberal voters but the Liberals are useless at playing politics.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 4, 2023 9:33 am

It’s time to stop giving dinosaur meja grubs money. I was thinking about contributing to Spiked for a while. So glad I didn’t.

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 4, 2023 9:34 am

How do you know it’s going to work? he asks mildly, pointing out that I won’t find out till I need to…..Umm. Ummm. What do Cats think? Have I done my money?

If its a small, springl0aded centre punch type device, like this

https://www.amazon.com.au/Original-Emergency-Keychain-Seatbelt-Yellow-Compact/dp/B01G6C18EC/ref=asc_df_B01G6C18EC/?tag=googleshopdsk-22&linkCode=df0&hvadid=354427127903&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15849478531201088688&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9071165&hvtargid=pla-296745984699&psc=1

yes they work very well. I have used them a number of times at crash rescues, and used to have one on my neck lanyard in my rally car. It included a belt cutter as well as it can be difficult to release a seat belt if you are inverted in a crash.

A surprisingly mild push on the side window will release the point and shatter the glass, as side windows are generally the type of glass that breaks up into small cubes. It will not work on the front screen, which will be laminated.

I have also heard that pulling out the headrest and using the metal rod it mounts with will also work, albeit this might be a bit harder to do under duress.

Muddy
Muddy
June 4, 2023 9:34 am

Quickies:

Indolent: Love the happy dog, thanks. Great for a small.

Lizzie: Solid advice of Hair’s re the process. Noted. Thanks.

Sal vs. JC: My only comment is the observation that JC’s posted list of licences (a few days ago now) required, contained nine (9) categories, rather than individual tickets. That was my initial observation anyway. Maybe I needed to have paid more attention, as this subject is obviously far more important than maintaining my physical & mental health, paying my bills, & hopefully hanging on to a roof over my head.

Muddy
Muddy
June 4, 2023 9:35 am

Smile, not small.
Erotocarrot!

Muddy
Muddy
June 4, 2023 9:36 am

Hairy’s.
I swear this phone is possessed!

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 4, 2023 9:38 am

Am I correct in saying Ch 7 running interview tonight with Lehrmann and 60 Minutes doing BRS.

Is it at same time?

chrisl
chrisl
June 4, 2023 9:38 am

Does anyone have any advice on laser cutters ?
I want to cut out shapes out of plywood as blanks for a craft project
Thanks

Pogria
Pogria
June 4, 2023 9:40 am

All you movie buffs, Mayerling is on Gem this afternoon. Just the thing for a rainy, dark afternoon.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 4, 2023 9:45 am

The more concerning fact is that Mr Vaccine, Bill Gates, with both his organizations (B&M Gates Foundation + Gavi) is the BIGGEST funder of the WHO with almost 1 BILLION dollars.

WHO appointed a Nork to a senior post last week.

World Health Organization Elects Communist NORTH KOREA to its Executive Board (31 May)

As a member of the WHO Executive Board for the next three year, Kim Jong Un will help set the agency’s agenda and implement its policies. (See: North Korea Suffers One of Its Worst Food Shortages in Decades)

North Korea was elected, in a slate with the other nominees, by a secret ballot: 123 nations voting yes, 13 abstentions and 6 spoiled ballots; 35 countries were absent. Normally the elections are by consensus, but Russia challenged Ukraine’s nomination, and so a vote was held.

I’m sure they can get a lot of tips from Mr Kim ready in time for the next round of medical or climate totalitarianism.

Muddy
Muddy
June 4, 2023 9:48 am

Lizzie.
I had a basher-cutter in my car for a while. Then I told her she needed to leave the scissors at home with Granddad if she wanted me to drive her to bingo.

Zatara
Zatara
June 4, 2023 9:49 am

Chief of AI test and operations says he “misspoke” about a “thought experiment” in which a drone killed its operator.

Pro Tip for attack drone operators – Don’t tell the drone where you are.

Cassie of Sydney
June 4, 2023 9:50 am

“Mayerling”

A sad story.

Tom
Tom
June 4, 2023 9:53 am

Who’s going to watch the Lehmann interview tonight?

I won’t watch, but I’ll tape it.

It is notionally an “interview”. The trick will be in how much of the interview the Seven Network censors.

I hope Bruce Lehrmann has taped the taping. If you’re an enemy of the media, as Lehrmann is, you must ALWAYS record your interactions with the media.

To put it bluntly, there could be hundreds of thousands of dollars in court-ordered damages in what the Seven Network leaves out of the Bruce Lehrmann interview.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 4, 2023 9:54 am

Almost every car is fitted with a window breaker.
It’s called a tyre lever.
Just move it from the boot to under your seat.
A little strip of velcro will keep it in place.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 4, 2023 9:58 am

There you go, we Cats are all KGB agents.

EU: Climate Deniers are Linked to a Russian and Chinese Disinformation Attack (3 Jun)

Underlines that the increase in climate change denialism can be linked to a wider embrace of conspiracy theories in the public discourse that is based on the deliberate creation of a counter reality and the rejection of science, and which includes false ideas about everything from Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine to COVID-19 vaccines; emphasises the role of foreign actors in disseminating disinformation about climate change and EU climate policy, which is undermining public support and is also being used in the narratives of domestic actors who exploit climate disinformation for their own political ends;

This is text from the actual EU Parliament resolution. Ok maybe not all Cats are KGB, some are probably PLA. You know who you are.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 4, 2023 9:58 am

… then I told her

That’s the way, Muddy. Hang in there and keep yer chin up.

My old Nana used to say, to any mooted problem, worse things happen at sea.

Should have put me off cruises, but it didn’t. 🙂

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 4, 2023 10:01 am

the deliberate creation of a counter reality and the rejection of science

Hey, just a minute. That’s what they do, isn’t it, not us?

Exhibit 1 – the US Democrats
Exhibit 2 – the Hon Chris Bowen, MP.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 4, 2023 10:03 am

Maybe even take a tooled up Dr Malcom Davis and his Twitter stiffie along for the ride, seeing he’s big on making real contributions.

Surely now would be as good a time as ever for us to send in a squadron or two of our elites to deploy the ‘compassionate reason’ they said we should have used against ISIS.

They will need their own camps, of course. The mess will need pony-tailed hipster baristas whose pronouns are they/them.

You could not put them with regular Australians because, oddly, while their compassionate reason can find fertile ground in the hearts of the savages in ISIS and the Taliban, it cannot find a connection to fellow citizens who have much more in common with them.

Dot
Dot
June 4, 2023 10:04 am

The Leatherman Z-Rex is a good little tool.

I don’t know where mine is.

Like Ivan Drago said, if I die, I die.

https://www.catch.com.au/product/leatherman-z-rex-emergency-multi-tool-w-glass-breaker-sheath-914682/

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 4, 2023 10:04 am

Lizzie,
a cheap little hammer from any hardware will do. Easier to handle also. Just grab the handle and belt the window.

car glass is surprisingly tough and may not break with a hammer hit, particularly if you are trying to do it from inside with a limited swing and other problems.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 4, 2023 10:08 am

Hint:

Do not drive into floodwaters, and your chances of needing a hammer/tyre lever/$60 gadget to save yourself from drowning will reduce considerably.

However – if you happen to own a lectric vehicle, you’ll need one when the thing catches fire and locks the windows up.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 4, 2023 10:08 am

The Credlin article only had 53 comments which were visible last night. Have the mods not woken up yet.

James Campbell has an article up which is basically opposite of Credlins but no comments showing yet.
Credlin I think has summed up the public’s view.

shatterzzz
June 4, 2023 10:08 am

Yes, and BRS was ill-advised to pursue the defamation.

easily dun when someone else is paying the bills ……..

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 4, 2023 10:09 am

And always carry iodine in the glovebox.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 4, 2023 10:10 am

Lizzie,
Forget the $60 gadget. I am sure you would look cooler in a convertible. Problem solved.
However might have to keep an umbrella and sun screen handy.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 4, 2023 10:11 am

It’s called a tyre lever.

So they were lying when they said a hammer (tyre lever) wouldn’t work on special glass?

I’m going with Flying Duk’s advice and will affix my gadget somewhere handy in a flood.
Or a car accident. Or when Hairy walks away with the keys and leaves me locked in again because he hasn’t closed the boot properly and the locking system’s gone bananas.

Our new BMW handbook warns that people have died inadvertently locked into the model you’ve just purchased. Take care with that key and keep it near, they say. Great news, eh?

Re the side windows – fat people might get stuck when getting out.
Good reason to keep slim I guess.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 4, 2023 10:15 am

Got a degree in the History and Philosophy of Veganism?
A career in the Metropolitan Police could be for you.

shatterzzz
June 4, 2023 10:16 am

I’d say the 52 bits of bureaucracy was just a metaphor, exasperated hyperbole.

Hear, hear! .. I talk like that all the time .. never one but at least 3 of anything .. LOL!
Plus .. bonus ….!

https://ibb.co/CJfXBZB

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 4, 2023 10:17 am

Forget the $60 gadget. I am sure you would look cooler in a convertible.

Yes, I definitely do. We hired an old-style red convertible in the Cook Islands recently. Great for tooling around feeling good, on the only road that exists in Rarotonga. The island circuit takes about an hour.

There’s still the problem with the mechanism though. I insisted the garage put it down before we started and we handed it back still down. Wind in the hair was fun but messy.

Crossie
Crossie
June 4, 2023 10:21 am

Knuckle Dragger says:
June 4, 2023 at 9:16 am
Yesterday I purchased online for around sixty bucks an implement that is ‘guaranteed’ to smash open a car window if you become locked in
Hammers are $60 now?

Bloody hell.

A rock costs nothing, just carry it in the side pocket, might be useful for other issues.

Muddy
Muddy
June 4, 2023 10:32 am

lotocoti says:
June 4, 2023 at 10:15 am

Oh lordy, that was embarrassing to watch!
Poor training, restrictive policies, or prioritising ‘identity’ over competence?
One wonders what the service’s sick/injured/stress stats are?

Let’s set people up to fail, shall we?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 4, 2023 10:32 am

car glass is surprisingly tough and may not break with a hammer hit, particularly if you are trying to do it from inside with a limited swing and other problems.

That’s what the ad said, with some horrible video of a woman and her daughter underwater trying to do just that and failing. I don’t drive into floodwaters, but sometimes, as in Kakadu in a huge hired SUV, Hairy considers chancing it, while I ferociously object. So he doesn’t do it.

Then there’s the risk of running off a bridge.

Spoiler alert, avert eyes Sancho. Succession reveal.
I always knew that Kendall’s Chappaquiddick moment would come back to bite him.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 4, 2023 10:34 am

BRS or the other side of Knickergate tonight.

Too many awful choices, I may watch neither.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 4, 2023 10:35 am

Do not drive into floodwaters, and your chances of needing a hammer/tyre lever/$60 gadget to save yourself from drowning will reduce considerably.

Denier!

Don’t you know that Global Warming is accelerating? I can easily imagine coming home from shopping and finding the garage now under water.

As for the little hammer Lizzie bought, it sounds very much like the little red emergency hammers they have on the buses in Sydney (at least) to smash out windows to allow escape. The heads are very small so all the energy imparted to the glass is focussed in a very small area.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 4, 2023 10:36 am

It’s called a tyre lever.

Alternatively to hitting the window directly, maybe you could insert the curved tip between the door frame and the window and push. Lever action to put a high point pressure on the glass to shatter. Get a lot more power that way. Probably damage the door though.

Other thing is to have a pocket knife if you have tinted windows, since the plastic tinting might be tough to get through without being cut with a knife.

I’m just guessing but, never happened to me and my car is old enough to have mechanical door handles.

Muddy
Muddy
June 4, 2023 10:36 am

Haaang on… was this a training drill?
Scrolling down, the Twitter account is pro-Russia, so … hmmm. It’s so easy to jump to conclusions, isn’t it?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 4, 2023 10:36 am

$60 bucks for a window breaker? That seems a tad expensive.

Elizabeth, go to a wreckers and test it out. Some brands have been found to be dodgy.

Check out the price in US dollars here. $13.95.

2-IN-1 EMERGENCY WINDOW BREAKER & SEATBELT CUTTER

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 4, 2023 10:38 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
June 4, 2023 10:41 am

Then there’s the risk of running off a bridge.

Rethink your 5th chardy and skip the Lieboral branch meetings and you should be right.

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 10:45 am

JC is just pissed off Abbie Chatfield did a fad econ major (“property economics”)

What the hell is property economics?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says: June 4, 2023 at 8:55 am
I enjoy reading about running a pub, so I’ll cut Sal some slack there, Sancho.
I’d say the 52 bits of bureaucracy was just a metaphor, exasperated hyperbole.

No Lizzie, it is fair dinkum.
I must point out I’ve never used the number 52, I’ve always said something like: “To operate a pub in Qld requires about 55 separate licences, permits or similar – I’ve actually lost count, but that pretty close to it.”

This came from Wetherspooons – a pommy pub chain with a few thousand pubs – none of which make much money* , but collectively make a shedload.
Reading Wetherspoons’ statement, I thought “Hmph, sounds a lot, but that’s in over-regulated pommyland, let’s see how much fewer it’d be here in carefree Australia

Started at the beginning, as Wetherspoons had, building permit, plans approved at the council etc etc
Also started at the other end, Licence to supervise a bar, Licence to handle gambling money. And started in the middle, Fire Brigade approval, Food handling ticket (this is different to the business’ food licence) & so on.

Got quite a shock, Qld’s requirements (in total) were pretty much the same as Wetherspoons had found it to be in their country.
It should be kept in mind that individual results may vary, & jurisdictions may vary. (i.e. in Australia state-to-state variations are such that you sometimes wonder if you’re still in the same industry)

Yep, there’s a lot of exasperation in it, as very few of those licences, permits, etc serve any public good. The one that does is building certification, so’s the public may have confidence the structure won’t fall down around them, & perhaps a few others.
I can’t state categorically how many such permits are actually required, as I’ve lost count, & certainly won’t be going right through it again. It is nothing more than idle trivia, useful for trotting out at parties or somewhere, for the purpose of watching the dawning recognition on the faces of those who doubt as they start counting.
I’m now far too busy for idle trivia, as are most who’re in the peak years of their career.

My favourite numerical trivia “shock & awe” question was always to Sydney cabbies (pre GPS) to ask them “How many suburbs in Sydney?” Usual answer was in the region of “Fifty/Sixty”
I’d tell them “More than Eight Hundred” They’d be super-sceptical, so they’d flop the book open on their knees to the index of suburbs (reading the street directory book on their knees whilst driving was a skill Sydney cabbies used to have)
They’d count 10, extrapolate that with their fingers to 100, about here their jaw would sag ever so slightly as they saw 100 got them only to suburbs beginning with “E” or thereabouts.

Numbers can often be an interesting exercise.

(*pommy pubs on average make very little money, never have)

Take no notice of anything the Oracle or the deputy (Heckle & Jeckle) as anything they say about anything I post is a knee-jerk emotional reaction to anything** I post & is not based on either logic or fact.

(** I once posted a harmless and objective comment on the old cat about “Numbers” – who I’ve interacted with in real life, & got four hours of abuse for it – mostly based on a most erroneous assumption rather than on what I’d said – a common error of Dunning Kruger types who assume someone is a simplistic sprouter of slogans rather than a sentinent being capable of their own agency)

Muddy
Muddy
June 4, 2023 10:46 am

Propaganda: Ukraine: Real or fake? (Twatter; via an Indolent link above).

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 4, 2023 10:56 am

… a sentinent being …
LOL

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 4, 2023 10:57 am

From Tom/WIP:

Target Liberation: spot the technique fail.

Dot
Dot
June 4, 2023 10:59 am

Make of it what you will JC. AFAIK blondie lives in Sidonee, so she might have done this.

https://www.uts.edu.au/study/find-a-course/bachelor-property-economics

Mightn’t be useful, but seems industry-focused.

I think it’s a symptom of real estate appreciating 3 – 4 more times than the higher wage price index year-on-year returns since about 2018.

Who’d sign up for property economics from about 1992 – 2003?!

MatrixTransform
June 4, 2023 11:04 am

I don’t know where mine is

did you check with Airport Security ?

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 4, 2023 11:09 am

Salvatore

(*pommy pubs on average make very little money, never have)

I always wondered why Pierrepoint had to moonlight as a hangman.

Probably apocryphal story claimed that he had a sign in his pub:

“No hanging around the bar.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 4, 2023 11:11 am

Lizzie,
Forget the $60 gadget. I am sure you would look cooler in a convertible. Problem solved.
However might have to keep an umbrella and sun screen handy.

But keep the cashmere scarves short.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 4, 2023 11:11 am

A rock costs nothing, just carry it in the side pocket, might be useful for other issues.

Fair enough, Crossie. Stone age defense and good for a hard hand-held blow. Better than nothing.
But didya see Elon Musk heave a huge rock at that new car display and it cracked but didn’t break the special window glass? And that was with plenty of hefting room. Maybe it takes a special tool.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Boambee John

Haha. At ten quid a drop he wasn’t ever making much money from the odd macrame job that comprised the family business.
Though it was hanging that got him the grubstake to get into the pub. He hanged some hundreds of war crimes death penalties – that gave him enough to get into the pub.

It had one of those cute names English pubs oft have: Help the Poor Struggler

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 4, 2023 11:17 am

A few comments from today coming through on Credlin article but I think they are suppressing them as would expect far more.
Campbell article still none and again expect many are being made.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 4, 2023 11:17 am

I’m now far too busy for idle trivia, as are most who’re in the peak years of their career.

Well I’m at the tail end of mine, whatever that was, and idle trivia is what makes my day complete.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 4, 2023 11:32 am

Steve Trickler, just watched that freaky demo, and that’s enough trivia for me for one day.

I don’t think I’ve done my dough buying that window breaker. Thanks.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 4, 2023 11:35 am

All our Beamer’s windows are tinted, so it was good to see what to do in that case.
Also, must check if the whole lot are laminated, if so, buggeure. Might have to get one changed.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 4, 2023 11:36 am

James Campbell has an article up which is basically opposite of Credlins but no comments showing yet.
Credlin I think has summed up the public’s view.

Campbell:

A tough week for Ben Roberts-Smith fans it goes without saying.

Our defamation laws being what they are, most journalists I know thought Thursday’s Federal Court decision in Roberts-Smith v Fairfax Media Publications Pty Ltd was unlikely to go in the company’s favour.

It’s not right to say they are decided on the vibe of things but the vibe you get is the legal profession, from judges down, don’t like journalists.

But on Thursday Justice Anthony Besanko was saying in plain words that, on the balance of probabilities, the recipient of our highest award for valour was a murderer and a bully who had disgraced his country.

Actually, he didn’t quite say that, he said the newspapers “have established the substantial truth of imputations” that the above was true.

Obviously, a disaster for Roberts-Smith himself but also a disaster for those who championed his cause.

In the four years since Fairfax first raised the allegations against him, I can’t remember the number of times I’ve heard people who should know better defend or seek to downplay the allegations. Initially the response, what we might call Defence No.1, was to claim the claims were untrue and would be found so when the matter got to court.

One didn’t hear that argument so much once the trial began and the testimony began piling up.

That was fine for his supporters though because, by then, they had shifted to Defence No.2, which was to say: ‘Well these things happen in war, who are we who have never been near that stuff to judge him?’

Making excuses for “our blokes” is a fine Australian tradition.

Has any other country in the world ever had a hit film with a war criminal as the hero, as we did with Breaker Morant? The problem with Defence No.2, which essentially boils down to “they all do it”, was that the men making the accusations against Roberts-Smith were also in the SAS.

Presumably because the law in its majesty does not permit “they all do it” to be run as an argument against murder, Roberts-Smith’s defence team could be forgiven for arguing instead that their man’s accusers were motivated by envy of a war hero.

But, given the trauma it must have caused them to go to all this trouble, it’s a feeble one to raise in private conversation when unencumbered by the same restrictions.

The next time you hear someone defending the honour of our soldiers by treating murder as a matter for flippancy, remember that in doing that they are insulting all of them.

Because at the centre of this case is a simple proposition, which is this: placed in a position that few of us can imagine, some men descended into barbarity while others kept their heads.

Luckily most of us will never have to find out which side we would end up on if we found ourselves in the situation these SAS men did.

Since Oscar Wilde launched an action for criminal libel against the Marquess of Queensbery for accusing him of posing as a “sodomite”, it’s hard to think of a defamation trial that has ended as disastrously for the plaintiff.

Wilde’s ill-advised action ended up sending him to prison for two years.

Whether that fate awaits Roberts-Smith remains to be seen, of course.

In the meantime, it will be interesting to see how his supporters respond to their man’s fall.

Because, let’s face it, looking closely at what has happened here would take a moral courage that most of us don’t possess.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 4, 2023 11:42 am

6 points he raises. I’ll highlight 2. I thought he was taking the pi55 regarding rice. Nope, the lunatics at the WEF are serious.

Doc Coleman.

Scary Truths

*The International Monetary Fund won’t give loans to African countries if they use fossil fuels. The IMF is, instead, forcing developing countries to use solar and wind power (neither of which work). This nonsense will trap those countries in eternal poverty and produce massive starvation and millions of deaths. Wind turbines use more energy than they produce and solar panels are expensive to make and to install. They last around ten years and then have to be thrown away. Just what is going to happen to all that waste is still a mystery. Solar panels will never pay for their cost – either in energy or financial terms.

**Hundreds of psychopathic climate change nutters (all wearing cotton T-shirts with silly slogans on them, ill-fitting trousers, sandals and white socks) now want rice to be banned. They claim that rice produces too many emissions and that the flooded rice fields produce methane which is as bad for us as the stuff produced by farting cows. The proposal is very serious. I wonder if the enthusiasts promoting this latest aspect of climate genocide realise that rice is the main food source for 3.5 billion people and that banning rice will result in billions of deaths. The climate change freaks will presumably sip their camomile tea and munch their avocado on rye without a blink of compassion.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 4, 2023 11:42 am

The next time you hear someone defending the honour of our soldiers by treating murder as a matter for flippancy, remember that in doing that they are insulting all of them.

Piss off idiot.

Get off the couch.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 4, 2023 11:44 am

Check out this BS from the WEF.

This is how rice is hurting the planet

shatterzzz
June 4, 2023 11:44 am

Just got a reminder msg from one of the apps on my phone telling me that today is the 11th anniversary (2012) of my, official, full remission notification from Non Hodgins Lymphoma ……
before and after x rays of NHL …….
https://ibb.co/2tj0YrT

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Actually, he didn’t quite say that, he said the newspapers “have established the substantial truth of imputations” that the above was true.

On the black/white (no grey allowed) scale, of “guilty/not guilty”, the case ended thus: Ben Roberts-Smith V.C., lost.

That’s his defamation action he brought against Channel Nine.
War crimes prosecution may be DOA, if what we read in the papers is true. i.e. none of the witnesses against BRS actually saw a bloody thing, & are all guessing, or saying they “saw him in the general area” & so on.

BRS being a prick in the boozer, being a prick to other blokes in the squadron, & being a prick to captured enemy, …. that’s about all they’ve got.

BRS isn’t helped by being a brawny, unsophisticaed, brawler/warrior, whose formative years were spent learning to brutally kill people & to be brave.
He didn’t spend a helluva lot of time learning deportment, or how to discuss philosophy & form high falutin’ opinions.

His reality was: If you make an error, or don’t go in hard enough, your mum gets a folded flag & your name goes on the tall piece of marble that’s set in the main roundabout of your hometown.
His reality was not: If you make an error, someone writes some really horrid words about you in the SMH & you’re shamed, dude, really shamed.

He learned how to put other people on the ground & make sure they stayed there, how to kill other people, how to blow stuff up, & to not complain or feel self-pity at small, or even major discomforts.

Or…. the opposite of journalists, lawyers, politicians, & the entire white collar class.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

KD, exhibiting a talent for both brevity & incisive accuracy, condenses my above so very very well:

Knuckle Dragger says: June 4, 2023 at 11:42 am

Piss off idiot.”

Love your work sir.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 4, 2023 11:57 am

No surprises here. What’s funny is the MSM are the biggest source of misinformation / disinformation.

W*nkers.

——–

Real Rukshan:

Thanks to a Freedom of Information request by Big Brother Watch in the UK and The Telegraph, a secret program to monitor UK citizens for anti-lockdown/vaccine/mandate policy sentiment has been exposed. It has also been revealed that the UK government contracted out much of the work to a firm using AI technology to assess potential users for monitoring purposes

Breaking: UK Government Secret AI Censorship Program Exposed

calli
calli
June 4, 2023 12:01 pm

I’d say the 52 bits of bureaucracy was just a metaphor, exasperated hyperbole.
So you don’t believe it either?

Maybe. But the number of “bits of bureaucracy” doesn’t surprise me.

– employing people under different awards
– serving food
– serving alcohol
– providing motel rooms

The “bits of bureaucracy” would go all the way from licensing to car parking provision to workplace safety to cleaning to various types of insurance.

Unless you’ve run a complex business, you won’t appreciate the crazy impediments to actually doing productive work, let alone making a profit.

anon
anon
June 4, 2023 12:02 pm

As someone who has broken more than a few car windows I can say that hammers, tyre levers and such don’t work most of the time. What is needed is something with a very sharp point to focus the energy. Normal hammers etc simply don’t focus the energy enough. Go ahead try it on side windows only, laminated windscreens won’t work.

Zipster
June 4, 2023 12:04 pm
calli
calli
June 4, 2023 12:05 pm

The insane crowing over the BRS judgement is puke-making.

I also noticed one of the memes in this week’s WIP had a “crusader cross” along with a glass of wine. I do hope no tender sensibilities found it “chilling”. There’s a cure for that of course – a cement milkshake.

In other beverage comparisons, yes the Presbyterians here do serve espresso coffee from their flash barista machine. Proceeds go to the mission field.

Fact check – true.

Tom
Tom
June 4, 2023 12:09 pm

The insane crowing over the BRS judgement is puke-making.

How many journalists have ever done military service?

The answer, I suspect, is quite a bit south of zero.

Makka
Makka
June 4, 2023 12:10 pm

UK government contracted out much of the work to a firm using AI technology to assess potential users for monitoring purposes

Part of 5 Eyes- exactly what it was set up to accomplish. Censorship. Citizen control. Propaganda management

calli
calli
June 4, 2023 12:11 pm

What is needed is something with a very sharp point to focus the energy.

#metoo

Duk’s suggestion on the headrest struts – I’ve heard this before. Like using a stiletto heel. You need your wits about you in an emergency though (and clearly have to be fashionably attired). The little hammers they have in the tour buses are just a metal point with a handle. They work.

Keep it in the glove box, Lizzie, just like carrying an enormous umbrella in dodgy weather. That way you know you’ll never need it.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
June 4, 2023 12:12 pm

Tom.

I think Michael Smith would be a very rare exception.

calli
calli
June 4, 2023 12:14 pm

How many journalists have ever done military service?

They do “look and snitch” and then pretend they’ve faced canon fire at Balaklava.

P
P
June 4, 2023 12:14 pm
calli
calli
June 4, 2023 12:16 pm

I love that hymn.

rosie
rosie
June 4, 2023 12:16 pm

One of my mums green left progressive friends has been hit with a $17,000 land tax bill for their holiday house.
She did point out Andrews said they were going after the top end of town.

Tom
Tom
June 4, 2023 12:19 pm

I think Michael Smith would be a very rare exception.

Mak Siccar, my memory is that Michael Smith was originally a cop and got into the publishing business via his website only after observing journalists not doing their jobs.

So Smith is not only an exception, but a noble exception.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 4, 2023 12:24 pm

Steve tricklersays:
June 4, 2023 at 11:42 am

Then along come the Chinese with large brown paper bags. Bound to end well…

dopey
dopey
June 4, 2023 12:27 pm

And Lizzie, keep a copy of A Glastonbury Romance in the glove box. Never know how long Police Rescue might take.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 4, 2023 12:28 pm

Dear oh dear, Daily Telegraph:

After three years of mouldy misery across much of Australia, take heart – this winter is set to be mainly dry and bright.

The downpours that caused a run on dehumidifiers and anti-fungus remedies for NSW residents in particular, plus devastating floods in places, this time 12 months ago are largely history, as Australia’s weather patterns shift dramatically from wetter to drier conditions.

But according to the meteorology experts at Sky News, that change is likely to have major implications by spring ahead of a potentially record-breaking, and dangerous, summer which will bring the risk of drought, fire and heatwave-related health issues.

“Somewhere in Australia is likely to break the country’s all-time record of 50.7 degrees,” said Sky meteorologist Rob Sharpe. “In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s beaten by a few places and we see our first 52 degree day. From a climate perspective it’s almost the perfect set-up.”

Generally this winter and into spring, expect lots of sun and higher temperatures – and don’t let the chilly mornings fool you, said Sharpe’s colleague Alison Osborne, a former Royal Australian Navy meteorologist and oceanographer, who says we will likely find ourselves in a rain-suppressing El Nino climate event later this year.

“Recent frosty and usually cold mornings up and down Australia are a tell-tale sign of the drying trend that is spreading across the nation – far from being a sign of a cold winter, it’s symptomatic of a lack of cloud, and thus warmer-than-normal daytime temperatures,” she said.

“The impacts of El Nino – the drier, warmer weather – will be felt long before the event is likely declared.”

The expected El Nino is the opposite of the three consecutive La Nina events over the Pacific Ocean that brought so much rain since 2020.

And El Nino is unlikely to act alone, the Sky team warn. To Australia’s west, the Indian Ocean is changing tack and is expected to move into its positive phase – a drier period for Australia, and a key driver of the 2019 Black Summer bushfires.

Essentially, the moisture we’ve been supplied on tap from these two oceans is quite likely to evaporate for the foreseeable future, with huge implications for Australian society.

Paddocks in the east are drying up, although there are still plenty of reserves in most of the dams.

And while the risk of flooding is substantially reduced, many understand that after the floods come fires, with much of eastern and central Australia covered in already-yellowing grass and shrubs.

Increased thunderstorms are expected from August, with plentiful lightning and minimal rainfall – the right ingredients to start fires.

A small piece of good news for eastern Australia is that the forested regions won’t be as dry as in 2019. It takes longer for forests to dry out. But fires remain a serious concern through spring and into summer.

Sky News is bracing for the coming months by deepening its weather coverage and appointing a third meteorologist, making the station’s team – which also includes two dedicated reporters – the biggest on Australia TV.

New hourly bulletins, graphics and overseas reports are being rolled out as the station aims not just to forecast, but to explain and report on the impact of, key weather events.

“Weather forecasting is still the main task at Sky News Weather. Viewers want to know what the temperature and weather conditions will be in the days and weeks ahead,” said Chris Willis, Head of News. “But, viewers have told us they also want to know the ‘why’ of major weather events and our new style of graphic presentation will enable us to do that better.”

Let’s spend more money in order to quell the onslaught! FMD

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 4, 2023 12:34 pm

Tom

Smith was Army first, went through Army Apprentice School then left to join Vic Pol after 8 years.

Unsure whether he was RAEME or Engineers but he often comments on his green time especially around enlistment anniversaries.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 4, 2023 12:34 pm

Tomsays:
June 4, 2023 at 12:09 pm
The insane crowing over the BRS judgement is puke-making.

How many journalists have ever done military service?

The answer, I suspect, is quite a bit south of zero.

Teachers, lawyers, public servants and journos used to be the backbone of the Army reserves.

Now, not so much.

bespoke
bespoke
June 4, 2023 12:35 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 4, 2023 12:36 pm

Smith was Army first, went through Army Apprentice School then left to join Vic Pol after 8 years.

Quite true.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 4, 2023 12:41 pm

You’ve got to wonder if Judges are getting late night phone calls. Use your imagination as to the nature of the calls.

—–

Stew Peters Show:

AZ Supreme Court REJECTS Kari Lake Appeal: Court IGNORES Overwhelming Evidence Of Stolen Election

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 12:46 pm

rosie says:
June 4, 2023 at 12:16 pm

One of my mums green left progressive friends has been hit with a $17,000 land tax bill for their holiday house.
She did point out Andrews said they were going after the top end of town.

Consider it as rent now, Rosie. If the vacation home is in a trust or company name, the land tax rate can reach 2.5%. That’s near enough to the rental rate of return.

I suspect the next cab off the rank will be a death tax of some sort, but it will be means tested above a certain threshold and won’t attach to the family home. It will be imposed on the investment assets of the deceased but not extending to the surviving spouse. We’re not going to see it this election cycle but the next I think.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

AZ Supreme Court REJECTS Kari Lake Appeal: Court IGNORES Overwhelming Evidence Of Stolen Election

This is in a country that was formed when a group of shopkeepers were pissed off by the government refusing to put a protection tariff on tea leaves.

When the normies rise up, it will be brutal – it’ll take a long time though, as compared to 1776 the current normies have a far more comfortable lifestyle, & are far more aware of the physical hardship & physical discomforts/life changing damage, that will be part of the cost of a revolution.

1776 life was pretty bloody tough anyway, there wasn’t as much to lose & life was lived with the constant threat of indian/outlaw lethal incursion onto your farm/town, so a guerrilla war on home turf, which was within living memory of everybody aged over 25, was a familiar experience.

Digger
Digger
June 4, 2023 12:55 pm

…. the current normies have a far more comfortable lifestyle, & are far more aware of the physical hardship & physical discomforts/life changing damage, that will be part of the cost of a revolution.

Definitely central to the lack of response to the outrageous decisions and actions being taken by courts and politicians in the western hemisphere… most prominent being the US but not lost in Australia, UK, France, Germany, Italy…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 4, 2023 12:57 pm

“Somewhere in Australia is likely to break the country’s all-time record of 50.7 degrees,” said Sky meteorologist Rob Sharpe

Yep. On 17 Jan 1877. Of course BoM only bothers to include data from 1910, since the 1880s were the peak of the 60 year cycle two cycles ago. Which they can’t acknowledge without overturning the scam.

“In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s beaten by a few places and we see our first 52 degree day. From a climate perspective it’s almost the perfect set-up.”

He won’t see it because he wasn’t born yet. It was 52.8 C on that day in 1877 in Bourke.

Australian Heatwaves (Jul 2022)

Delta A
Delta A
June 4, 2023 12:58 pm

Psays:
June 4, 2023 at 12:14 pm
Holy, Holy, Holy! Lord God Almighty!

Blessed Trinity.

What a stirring performance of a very old favourite. Thanks for posting on this special Sunday, P.

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 1:08 pm

The two worst treasurers this side of the century have been Queenslanders.

The over-promoted little goose, Shane Wand and his former subordinate, Jug ears Chalmers. Jug Ears is like a Doctor, who wrote his dissertation on Paul Keating. He studied politics. You can’t make this shit up.
Chalmers also appears to be the ear-twin of that Queensland sugar farmer, turned London Banker who ended up going bust.

Jug ears Chalmers
Lex Greenshill

Those ears were most definitely were separated at birth.

Dot
Dot
June 4, 2023 1:09 pm

This is in a country that was formed when a group of shopkeepers were pissed off by the government refusing to put a protection tariff on tea leaves.

No.

This is completely wrong.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 4, 2023 1:14 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
June 4, 2023 at 12:57 pm

King Charles and Sir David King both have one thing in common. Both talk sh*t.

—–

Tony Heller:

“In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better.” ? Theodore Dalrymple

The Worst Crisis Ever

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

This is completely wrong.

Are you saying they did not form a new country?

Entropy
Entropy
June 4, 2023 1:15 pm

I thought it was because the British government imposed a higher tax on American goods. It moat definitely wasn’t protectionist.

Dot
Dot
June 4, 2023 1:15 pm

FFS

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 4, 2023 1:17 pm

Unis have a lot to answer for producing rubbish like Chalmers, Anal and Swan. Cossetting and nurturing this trash.

cohenite
June 4, 2023 1:20 pm

He won’t see it because he wasn’t born yet. It was 52.8 C on that day in 1877 in Bourke.

Cloncurry cracked 53C in 1889 and Charles Sturt and Thomas Mitchell also recorded 53C in their travels.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 4, 2023 1:25 pm

Michael Smith was also a well liked radio host on 4BC and then 2GB. He came unstuck at 2GB because of his interview with an ex Union leader about then Prime Minister Gillard and the AWU matters 20 years previously. Despite clearing the interview with a 2GB lawyer he was not allowed to go to air and basically lost his job over the issue.

“Smith was Army first, went through Army Apprentice School then left to join Vic Pol after 8 years”.

Indolent
Indolent
June 4, 2023 1:28 pm

This is why they’re still pushing the boosters. To hide the effects of the previous jabs.

Repeated COVID-19 Vaccination Weakens Immune System: Study

Indolent
Indolent
June 4, 2023 1:30 pm
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I thought it was because the British government imposed a higher tax on American goods.

The substance remains unchanged: They rose up in arms coz of gripes about tariffs.
The exact nature of those tariffs can be discussed by the significant number of American Revolution experts we have on the Cat.
Some of those historians are very knowledgeable about the revolution.

Me, I’ve read a handful of (quite large) volumes/books, that’s all. Enough to know the US popular culture image of “Yankee Doodle Dandy, fifes & drums, we fight for freedom” is total mythology & may be quite removed from the reality on the ground at the time.

Indolent
Indolent
June 4, 2023 1:39 pm

I went for a walk along the Rose Bay promenade this morning and, guess what, at least one of the seaplanes that seem to do good business there has been repainted with a rainbow decal. I have no idea what the motive is in this case, but quite often these things are done to tick a box for brownie points. A friend who works in a large architectural firm is now being offered sessions on indigenous hardship and “sustainability” which now also forms part of the compulsory studies to maintain registration as an architect! The propaganda and nudging never ends.

Ex-Anheuser-Busch exec reveals how lefty investment firms pressure companies to go woke

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 1:48 pm

Did anyone listen to Putin’s recent speech about some of the absurdities currently occurring in the West, such as tranniedom and gay rights?

It was such a laughable speech. He was directly attempting to stoke dissent between the western Right and left as he knows there are misgivings over the war on the Right. This is the moral, Christian leader who’s been in power for 20 years and presides over a country with the highest abortion rates in in the world. I guess, at some stage he’ll blame America for that too. The CIA is the cause of Russia’s abortion rate.

Indolent
Indolent
June 4, 2023 1:48 pm
Indolent
Indolent
June 4, 2023 1:50 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 4, 2023 1:50 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:

June 4, 2023 at 1:37 pm

I thought it was because the British government imposed a higher tax on American goods.

The substance remains unchanged: They rose up in arms coz of gripes about tariffs.

No, no.
It was the 56 separate regulations for innkeepers.
Definitely.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 4, 2023 1:53 pm

The Boston Tea Party was a false flag op run by angry innkeepers.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 4, 2023 1:55 pm

Me, I’ve read a handful of (quite large) volumes/books, that’s all. 

Me too.
Some of them didn’t even have pictures.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The Boston Tea Party was a false flag op run by angry innkeepers.

That’s more or less the general understanding of it.

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 1:57 pm

No, no.
It was the 56 separate regulations for innkeepers.
Definitely.

Great point.
Yea, it ought to be correctly called – not The War of independence- but rather, as some noted historians have referred to it as – The innkeepers Revolution. Those 55 licenses and permits really pissed them off.

I’m not an expert on the Innkeepers Revolution, but I’ve read many thick books on the subject. I’m sure there are experts right here though who can elaborate further. The Innkeepers Revolution was the direct result of George imposing all those licenses and permits. Really annoyed those dudes to no end.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Me too.
Some of them didn’t even have pictures.

Quite so. Reading about 1776 doesn’t feel right if you’re unable to see exactly what Paul Revere looked like.

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 2:01 pm

Leatherbound books too, Sanchez. All nice and glossy too from the outside with gold writing and embossing.

rosie
rosie
June 4, 2023 2:04 pm

JC
Good point about the land tax.
Tax and spend, tax and spend.

JC
JC
June 4, 2023 2:09 pm

Actually on a serious note, in my opinion the American Revolution was one of the biggest wrong turns in history. In fact, it was a tragedy. If the UK had offered representation to the colonies, the relationship would likely not have turned into a full scale revolution. The split could have been friendly and close. It would have happened, but not that way.

If the relationship was close, it would have potentially closed the door on WW1, which was the forerunner to the big one.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 4, 2023 2:10 pm

‘ticking a box for brownie points’ is true in more ways than one, indolent @1.39.

Louis Litt
June 4, 2023 2:20 pm

Black Ball 4/6/28 @ 12:28
Is anyone able to contact Teresa Thermopolis from Don Aitkens website.
3 yr ago she accurately predicted the wet El Nina’s.
He/she predicted the Indian and Pacific Ocean diaploes where the highest he/she has seen.
The result a lot of rain.
Teresa noted the ocean temperature around Indonesia was usually high. I wonder if this had to do with Tectonic Activity and the volcanos blowing up over the past 3 yrs.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 4, 2023 2:26 pm

If the UK had offered representation to the colonies, the relationship would likely not have turned into a full scale revolution

Tend to agree with this.

It could be fairly said that George III and his parliament, rather than George Washington were the founding fathers of the US.

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