Open Thread – Tues 13 June 2023


The Death of King Arthur, James Archer, 1860

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shatterzzz
June 16, 2023 1:44 pm

Good question! ..
https://ibb.co/7bZ9k9P

amortiser
amortiser
June 16, 2023 1:46 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
June 16, 2023 at 12:33 pm
“Anybody found a female trans in male sport yet?”

Indeed…and anybody found a female trans in male sport that has beaten the biological males?

I played squash for many years and although I never came across a trannie in competition, I played against girls on many occasions. These were the top players in the top grade of the women’s competition who played the men in their B grade competition to get hard matches. Us blokes never wanted to be beaten by them so the matches were fiercely competitive. I can proudly say that I never lost to them.

If trannies are correctly graded it probably doesn’t mean a lot in those sorts of competitions. The problem arises in the top tier open competitions and professional events. Allowing trannies into such events will destroy top tier women’s sport and the effect will be felt all the way to grass roots level.

Kieran Perkins has rolled over. What a disgrace that is!! I can see 3rd grade bowlers terrorising representative Australian women’s cricketers. How will that look for aspiring youngsters who see a possible sporting career at this top level.
If the ASC protocol stays this will happen.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 1:46 pm

Just lookin’ at today’s paper, there’s a pic of David Van with partner Nerilee Rockman.
Would Nerilee be a daughter of former Melbourne Lord Mayor Irvin Rockman, by any chance?

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 1:47 pm

“Allowing trannies into such events will destroy top tier women’s sport and the effect will be felt all the way to grass roots level.”

It’s already happening.

Rabz
June 16, 2023 1:50 pm

Nerilee Rockman

Eddles, I would have thought you’d be pointing out she’s clearly an extra terrestrial lizard person.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 1:50 pm

The reason I ask is that Irvin Rockman was a Sea Diver and so is David Van, according to his website.
Irvin Rockman’s parents hailed from Ukraine, and I see David Van was over there last year selling weapons to Zelenskyy?

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 1:52 pm

What is a sea diver?

Johnny Rotten
June 16, 2023 1:53 pm

Seen on Jo Nova’s Blog today –

Australian bank announces cash withdrawal limits.

From August 20th, 2023, Westpac Bank Australian customers will be prohibited from withdrawing more than $1,000 from their accounts per day. Other Banks will likely follow. Access to your own cash removed.

Still think it’s about a Virus?

CASH ON HAND anyone?.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 1:56 pm

Eddles, I would have thought you’d be pointing out she’s clearly an extra terrestrial lizard person.

Take it easy, Rabz.
I’m seeing a story on p.4 saying that nobody thought David Van would score the #3 slot on the Vic. 2019 Senate Ticket.
Then on the next page he’s married to Nerilee Rockman.
Now, perhaps Nerilee isn’t Irvin Rockman’s daughter, he had 6 kids from 3 wives, but perhaps she is and that helped him into the Senate?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 16, 2023 1:57 pm

Im disappointed in the cat.
You have let me down.

Why havent these been put up before??

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 1:59 pm

What is a sea diver?
Diving in the sea rather than underwater caves on land.
It’s on Irvin’s Wiki entry.
He hadn’t been in the papers for years, I didn’t know that he had died.

johanna
johanna
June 16, 2023 2:02 pm

Do these hardy sons of the soil not know how to read a weather map, or to tap into the several apps that are better than the BoM?

Nup, they want taxpayers to cough up:

When Lyn Barnes wakes up in her sleepy town of Quilpie in south-west Queensland, she doesn’t know what weather conditions she’ll be facing that day.

The town is in the middle of a vast weather radar blackout zone stretching over 2,000 kilometres from between Warrego to Woomera in South Australia and Alice Springs.

The lack of radar means locals don’t get accurate weather data readings and are forced to rely on information from radars hundreds of kilometres away.

Weather apps are virtually useless.

“We have no idea what’s coming for us,” Ms Barnes said.

Oh, pull the other one, Ms Barnes. If you have ‘no idea’ based on the available information, then you probably have ‘no idea’ about life in general.

Learn to read weather maps, read the history of the region, consult some old timers, and stop whining.

Your incompetence and laziness is not the taxpayers’ problem.

P
P
June 16, 2023 2:02 pm

Bishops Invite Catholics to Pray Litany of Sacred Heart in Response to Dodgers’ ‘Blasphemy’

“This year, on June 16 — the day of the solemnity of the Sacred Heart of Jesus — a professional baseball team has shockingly chosen to honor a group whose lewdness and vulgarity in mocking Our Lord, his Mother, and consecrated women cannot be overstated. This is not just offensive and painful to Christians everywhere; it is blasphemy.”

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How Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence are preparing for Dodgers’ Pride Night disaster
New York Post By Erich Richter – June 15, 2023

The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence – the controversial trans-queer group – will make their long-awaited appearance at the Dodgers’ Pride Night on Friday.

The group is preparing for a slew of protests at the game, but they are not shying away from the controversy.

“We’re here, we’re queer, so get used to it,” Sister Unity told USA Today.

The group was initially invited by the Dodgers, then uninvited, then re-invited within a few days after backlash on both sides.

Detractors have called the Sisters a “blatantly perverted, sexual, and disgusting anti-Catholic hate group.”

m0nty
m0nty
June 16, 2023 2:08 pm

The heart of Christianity is faith in Jesus; good works are the fruit of that faith.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is putting the proverbial cart before the horse.

Sure, I didn’t say anything against that notion.

The Bible also says faith without works is dead.

Remind us again how the mob you support has as its only real policy agenda to slash the welfare state in favour of tax cuts for the rich.

cohenite
June 16, 2023 2:08 pm

“Top Endersays:
June 16, 2023 at 12:44 pm
Three weeks before Amanda Stoker went public with groping allegations against Senator David Van, she invited him on her Sky News TV show…”

Like I said I think Stoker must have realised thorpie’s move against Van would drag in her previous complaint about Van which I gather went through official channels not just inhouse to the pathetic libs. So she had to be seen to be on the side of the sisters even when the sister is as mad as an arse fu.ked hippo.

I gather there have been further complaints so the worst possible result for Van has occurred: a conga line of bruised female buttocks with them wobbling from both the liars and the tiny dick libs.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 2:09 pm

Irvin Rockman also built the Parkroyal in Alice Street, not much of a building to look at, but quite nice inside.
His Wiki says he was mired in Drug Smuggling allegations around 1981, but I seem to recall something more serious.
Perhaps I’m mistaken?

Muddy
Muddy
June 16, 2023 2:09 pm

Dootie Free Liberals.
Federal Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has declared the Liberal Party’s women problems are over, with a strict new parliamentary standard set to be introduced immediately.

‘Beginning tomorrow,’ Mr. Dutton announced in a written statement, ‘all Federal members of the Liberal Party will be required to present a written guarantee, certified by a medical professional, regarding their association with women, before being admitted to the party room.’

‘Any member testing positive for oestrogen will be automatically stripped of their party membership,’ Mr. Dutton stated.

Prime Minister Albanese said that while tolerance of women in the Liberal Party was reprehensible enough, the bigger problem was ‘Dutton’s cooties’ infecting everyone else.

Seizing the moral high ground, Mr. Albanese said, ‘I’m certain no Labor member would ever abuse oestrogen. They wouldn’t even use it socially.’

It is not yet clear if members of the Nationals will face the same requirement, nor for how long Liberals will be required to present their ‘clean’ certificates.

H/t The Nineveh Gerbil.

C.L.
C.L.
June 16, 2023 2:15 pm

Looks like Steiner was a no-show in Ukraine.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 16, 2023 2:15 pm

Monty: Trump cant get a good lawyer because he makes them corrupt.

Dershowitz.
https://hotair.com/headlines/2023/06/15/why-donald-trump-cant-get-a-top-tier-lawyer-n558203
There is a nefarious group that calls itself The 65 Project that has as its goal to intimidate lawyers into not representing Trump or anyone associated with him. They have threatened to file bar charges against any such lawyers. When these threats first emerged, I wrote an op-ed offering to defend pro bono any lawyers that The 65 Project goes after. So The 65 Project immediately went after me, and contrived a charge based on a case in which I was a constitutional consultant, but designed to send a message to potential Trump lawyers: if you defend Trump or anyone associated with him, we will target you and find something to charge you with. The lawyers to whom I spoke are fully aware of this threat — and they are taking it seriously.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 2:16 pm

Open secret of groping Lib

The headline says it all.
At least Dutton avoided standing up for David Van [as advised by many ‘Liberal advisers’ here], so he’s probably not going to be
the next Bruce Lehrmann.
But, you never know.
Stranger things have happened.

Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2023 2:16 pm

That episode is a body blow to Fox. I hope he hires the producer they sacked.

What about Biden? It effectively proves that he’s more than just a wanna-be dictator, he really is one, with the fully support of the establishment.

m0nty
m0nty
June 16, 2023 2:18 pm

she doesn’t have an “association with convicted rock spider Nicolaas Bester”

Ah but she does, Cranky. There is even an article about it on her Web site. She will forever be associated with an attempt to cover for a convicted rock spider by doing an interview with him where she talked at length about how girls are (partially) to blame for being victims of rock spiders by “exploiting their seductive power”. This is disgusting NAMBLA-level apologia for pederasty. Arndt was widely scorned for this shameful episode, and rightly so.

You, of course, continue to defend her regardless of her disgraceful support for a convicted pedophile, because you see her as an ally in your culture war – a war you are badly losing, and in which you have precious few allies, most of which are as discredited and shunned as Arndt. And you have the hide to come at me for supporting perverts! Look at your own backyard Cranky, it’s full of scuttling spiders.

Johnny Rotten
June 16, 2023 2:21 pm

Tucker Carlson – No. 4

“Jo Biden – Wannabee Dictator

https://twitter.com/i/status/1669472439472988161

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 2:21 pm

“m0ntysays:
June 16, 2023 at 2:18 pm

Pervert apologist, I’ll repeat what I wrote earlier, she doesn’t have an “association with convicted rock spider Nicolaas Bester”. You are a dissembler and liar.

I know Bettina Arndt. She’s a person of integrity, you are not. Now piss off, you really are a low IQ grub.

m0nty
m0nty
June 16, 2023 2:22 pm

Dershowitz.

LOL. Anyone who favourably quotes that drongo automatically concedes the argument. What a loser.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 16, 2023 2:26 pm

This is industrial thinners sniffing, meth injecting gerbil up the arse level retarded…

Lidia Thorpe on why some victim survivors do not want to report their claims to the police

Ahead of question time, Lidia Thorpe, has thanked supporters for messages she has received in the last 48 hours, after making her allegations in the Senate, and spoke about why some survivors of violence do not wish to report their claims to police.

In a short statement to the Senate this afternoon, just before question time, Thorpe said:

Today I want to send a message of love and support to the women, girls and gender-diverse people out there – black, brown and white – who have experienced gender-based violence and harassment. I have been touched by all the messages of support that I’ve received over the past 48 hours and I thank you.

To all those who continue to stand up and refuse to stay silent about the ongoing violence and harassment inflicted on the bodies of our women and girls, sister-girls and brother-boys and other gender diverse folks – I thank you.

When we speak about violence, we get asked “why didn’t you take it to the police?” We know the police are not the experts. 87% of sexual assault cases go unreported in Australia, because we don’t want to go to the police. Yet they are the only body that is fully resourced and funded and wandering the streets 24/7.*

The experts are our friends, our matriarchs, our sisters who answer our calls in the middle of the night when we’re feeling unsafe and look after us. The experts are those working for support services that provide vital assistance and services that are stretched, underresourced and hard to access. They cannot keep up with the demand.

To all those still fighting against the violent colonial system,** and the conditions that allow gender-based violence to continue, may we continue to find strength and solidarity with each other. This country has the capacity to properly fund those support services, legal services and advocacy groups, who are saving lives and protecting our community against gender based violence.

* Police are the only group devoted to seeing predators charged and convicted.
But I dont want to use them.
And 87% of rapes arent reported.
So… wibble wibble my old mans a dustman bintangbintang.

** Perhaps a light ritual spearing of all involved would be better?

Monty do you support women not reporting rapes and assaults to police?
It seems to be the current thing getting a run…

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
June 16, 2023 2:26 pm

What is a sea diver?

Reminds me of the old joke.

How do you circumcise a whale?

4 skin divers.

Ed will tell us they are sea divers…

Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2023 2:28 pm

This refers to the U.S. but is it really much different here?

Carpe Donktum
@CarpeDonktum

Your country has been stolen from you.

Your government no longer even attempts to represent your interests at home or abroad.

Your elected officials despise you, and they are systematically stripping you of your liberties one by one.

Your justice system no longer functions, it neither punishes the guilty nor protects the innocent.

Your country’s entire economy only exists to enrich globalist corporations and their benefactors.

Your roads are crumbling, your bridges are collapsing, and your public infrastructure is slowly falling apart.

Your country’s borders are non-existent and your immigration system only serves to provide fodder for endless spending bills that launder money from public programs to private pockets.

Your education system only exists as a propaganda tool to brainwash your children into becoming the next wave of rainbow shirt wearing government worshippers.

Your military is just an extension of globalist leader’s wallets, securing a foothold in each new territory that they desire to drain of resourses.

Your free speech and your freedom of assembly are now just a shadow what they once were, and your right to self-defense is on the verge of being criminalized.

Your right to select and elect your leaders has been subverted to the point where it is no longer clear whether your vote even matters.

Your birthright has been stolen from you, and most people haven’t even noticed.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 16, 2023 2:29 pm

Oh noes. Someone is upset. Hun:

Lisa Wilkinson has lodged an official complaint with Channel 7, claiming a segment on its flagship morning program Sunrise aired “false” allegations against her.

The former Project host’s lawyers took issue with the claim Wilkinson had “coached” Brittany Higgins to build a campaign against the man she accused of sexually assaulting her, Bruce Lehrmann.

“That allegation is false. The material (falsely described in the report as ‘secret recordings’) published on Spotlight on the Seven Network on 4 June 2023 certainly does not justify that allegation,” the lawyers’ letter said.

Wilkinson’s lawyers claim Seven made no effort to contact the broadcaster about the claims included in the Sunrise segment, which also alleged Ms Higgins had penned an “angry letter” to the host.

“Ms Wilkinson has no record of a letter in the terms described in the report. We request that you urgently provide a copy so that our client can respond to the claims made,” the letter said.

The complaint also extended to the Spotlight program featuring an interview with Mr Lehrmann that aired portions of a recording of a five-hour meeting between Ms Higgins and Wilkinson.

The audio had been handed over under a search warrant by the Australian Federal Police.

It was not tendered to a recent board of inquiry into how criminal justice agencies handled the case.

Mr Lehrmann is suing Channel 10, Wilkinson and the ABC for defamation over their reporting in the wake of the sexual assault allegation made by Ms Higgins in 2019.

The letters, sent by law firm Gillis Delaney, were tendered in a 307-page affidavit to the Federal Court filed by Marlia Saunders, a lawyer representing Ten.

Included in the affidavit was an email from ACT Acting Director of Public Prosecutions Anthony Williamson SC.

He said while it appeared evidence produced under subpoena had been used improperly, the source of the leak was unclear.

“One reasonably available inference is that Mr Lehrmann provided the material to Channel 7 in breach of the undertaking,” Mr Williamson wrote.

“But that, of course, (is) not the only reasonably available inference. It also remains reasonably possible that any number of other people who had access to the documents could have breached it.

“What is also unclear is the ‘knowledge’ of Channel 7 surrounding the provenance of the documents.”

Mr Lehrmann’s barrister vehemently denied his client was the source of the leak in an appearance before the Federal Court last week.

Wilkinson’s lawyers also accused Spotlight executive producer Mark Llewellyn of not seeking comment to avoid legal action that could have blocked the show’s broadcast.

“The audio recording was a document produced under subpoena in criminal proceedings that was not tendered in court,” they wrote on June 6.

“This is something that the Seven Network must have known when it used it.

“We infer … you were aware an injunction was inevitable if it came to our client’s attention prior to broadcast that you had this audio recording in your possession.”

In a follow-up letter sent two days later, lawyers accused Seven of “deliberate and calculated” conduct.

“The misuse of such documents is a serious matter because it undermines the administration of justice,” the lawyers wrote.

“It beggars belief that a 90-minute program was prepared, apparently over many weeks if not months, and at no time was any contact made with our client or Network 10 to attempt to obtain their comment.”

Gillis Delaney lawyers also sent letters about reports in The Australian and the Daily Mail.

Mr Lehrmann pleaded not guilty to one charge of sexual assault. His trial was aborted due to jury misconduct and a retrial did not proceed due to concerns about Ms Higgins’ mental health.

The charge against him was dropped and there have been no findings made against him.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 16, 2023 2:30 pm

Monty dismisses something which has its targeting of Trump lawyers literally in its own statement of mission.

https://www.influencewatch.org/organization/65-project/

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21398212-the-65-projects-ethics-complaint-against-trump-attorney-cleta-mitchell

You fat ridiculous mong.

Beertruk
June 16, 2023 2:31 pm

My fifth-grade teacher was an old school no nonsense strong woman before the cream puff feministas sullied that epithet. She would kick our arses for errors like those. She was brilliant.

In my day it was the old Nuns that would smack you across the knuckles with a ruler.

cohenite
June 16, 2023 2:31 pm

Dershowitz.

LOL. Anyone who favourably quotes that drongo automatically concedes the argument. What a loser.

Well, you would say that dickless; after all Dersh has a dick, is smart and has some principles; the complete opposite of you. Now don’t neglect the milko’s kiddies.

Pogria
Pogria
June 16, 2023 2:36 pm
Lysander
Lysander
June 16, 2023 2:39 pm

Love the latest Tucker video, but it made me think that the line:

Good evening and welcome to Tucker Carlson

must be copyrighted by Fox? Instead he now says “hi, I’m Tucker Carlson”

Rabz
June 16, 2023 2:40 pm

Looks like Steiner was a no-show in Ukraine.

Not according to Gen Buck Keane (Retd.) of the Henry Kissinger Peace Academy, as per his appearance last night on Sky.

“Night Vision goggles” are going to tip the conflict in favour of the Yookies*.

*Assertion above may bear no resemblance to reality, either accidentally, inadvertently or coincidentally.

Lysander
Lysander
June 16, 2023 2:41 pm
Lysander
Lysander
June 16, 2023 2:43 pm

Geeze! Conspiracy theorists win, again!!!

China ‘Very Likely’ Exploiting Border Chaos To Sneak Military Operatives Into US, House Homeland Security Chair Warns

Hugh
Hugh
June 16, 2023 2:45 pm

I think m0nty has Jesus confused with Robin Hood.

Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2023 2:47 pm
Lysander
Lysander
June 16, 2023 2:48 pm

No, Munted has himself confused with Jesus.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
June 16, 2023 2:51 pm

Oh No!!!! It can’t be!!! A failure to produce sufficient content? . Harry and Meghan part ways with Spotify – but… they are such interesting people. Aren’t they?

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 2:59 pm

Wilkinson’s lawyers also accused Spotlight executive producer Mark Llewellyn
Interesting that Wilkinson’s producer was Angus Llewellyn.

cohenite
June 16, 2023 3:05 pm

List of celebs who support the alphabet folk, including that well known trannie, obuma.

jupes
jupes
June 16, 2023 3:06 pm

“Night Vision goggles” are going to tip the conflict in favour of the Yookies*.

No, no. That would be the Bushmasters. The next phase of the great offensive will be the Bushies driving straight through the Russian’s main defence line and all the way to Mariupol.

jupes
jupes
June 16, 2023 3:10 pm

List of celebs who support the alphabet folk, including that well known trannie, obuma.

I would have though a more interesting list would be celebs who don’t support homosexuals and other assorted freaks.

m0nty
m0nty
June 16, 2023 3:10 pm

I think m0nty has Jesus confused with Robin Hood.

Ah yes, Jesus, a noted friend of Big Business. Why, I remember the time he went into the temple and delivered a stirring address lauding bedrock libertarian principles to the assembled money-changers. Then he went among those brave capitalists in peace, backslapping and giving high fives.

m0nty
m0nty
June 16, 2023 3:13 pm

“Suffer little children,” said Jesus, “and forbid them not to come unto me: for of such is the need of the iron mine owners that they require child labour to go forth and slave underground until they are dead, whereby I score a tidy finder’s fee.”

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
June 16, 2023 3:16 pm

The war against statins takes a serious turn. I wonder if Big Pharma will be quietly providing some background funding? I hope the good Doctors win convincingly.

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2023/06/04/libel-case/

I [Dr Kendrick] have been silent and off-line for a while. I am not unwell, but thanks for asking. There is a court case coming up in the High Court in London on the 3rd of July. I am suing the Mail on Sunday, along with Zoe Harcombe. This is complex and highly time-consuming case, and there are many sensitive issues on the line.

It was reported in the BMJ last year:

The controversy over the benefits of statins is set to be aired in the High Court in London, in what the senior libel judge has described as the “most significant piece of defamation litigation that I have seen in a very long time.”

Mr Justice Nicklin made the comment in a preliminary ruling in a libel action by Malcolm Kendrick, a GP, and Zoe Harcombe, a researcher, author, and blogger with a PhD in public health nutrition, against Associated Newspapers, publishers of the Mail on Sunday and Mail Online, over articles that labelled them “statin deniers” whose “deadly propaganda” had endangered lives.

In the judgment Nicklin ordered that the case should be heard in two tranches: a preliminary trial of certain issues, followed by a main trial. “It is no exaggeration to say that the parameters of this litigation are very substantial,” he said.

Kendrick and Harcombe are suing over articles published in the print edition of the Mail on Sunday and in Mail Online in March 2019. A news story in the paper was headlined “Statin deniers are putting patients at risk says Minister.”

cohenite
June 16, 2023 3:17 pm

Dickless must have the afternoon off while the kiddies are down at the trannie factory. Try harder dickless, no pun intended.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 3:17 pm

“Why, I remember the time he went into the temple and delivered a stirring address lauding bedrock libertarian principles to the assembled money-changers. Then he went among those brave capitalists in peace, backslapping and giving high fives.”

The pervert apologist’s anti-Semitism pops up again.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 3:20 pm

Then he went among those brave capitalists in peace, backslapping and giving high fives.

He did?
This Jesus sounds like a stand up guy.
Any idea why the Libertarians nailed him to a tree a week later?

Speedbox
June 16, 2023 3:24 pm

Not appropriate to say how I came across the following, but behold, a glimpse into the future. Just wait until the Voice gets up (if it does).

These are part of the instructions on how to brief a Deputy Director General of a government department.

FIRST NATIONS
– All preparers should turn their mind to how the decision/action/initiative assists in ensuring that Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples and cultures are central to all engagement, design and delivery.
– In bulleted paragraph form, summarise the impact of the decision/action/initiative on First Nations people, and if it does impact, how does this progress the department’s First Nations strategic objectives.

The groundwork is well advanced and if anybody thinks the Voice won’t leverage (enforce) this requirement, they’re dreaming.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 3:26 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 16, 2023 at 1:46 pm
Just lookin’ at today’s paper, there’s a pic of David Van with partner Nerilee Rockman.
Would Nerilee be a daughter of former Melbourne Lord Mayor Irvin Rockman, by any chance?

What does it matter, other than to those addicted to social gossip?

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 3:27 pm

” require child labour to go forth and slave underground until they are dead, whereby I score a tidy finder’s fee.””

Yes, I often think of the little children in the mines and quarries of the Congo and elsewhere in Africa, used as child labour to mine cobalt and other minerals for use in solar batteries, a folly that makes western hypocrites and fools feel good about “saving da planet”, except children are dying in hazardous and Dickensian like conditions.

“Of the 255,000 Congolese mining for cobalt, 40,000 are children, some as young as six years”

Ever spare a thought for those children? Nah, didn’t think so.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 3:31 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 16, 2023 at 1:56 pm
Eddles, I would have thought you’d be pointing out she’s clearly an extra terrestrial lizard person.

Take it easy, Rabz.
I’m seeing a story on p.4 saying that nobody thought David Van would score the #3 slot on the Vic. 2019 Senate Ticket.
Then on the next page he’s married to Nerilee Rockman.
Now, perhaps Nerilee isn’t Irvin Rockman’s daughter, he had 6 kids from 3 wives, but perhaps she is and that helped him into the Senate?

Many years ago, Paul Sheehan did a column in the SMH about the personal links between senior Liars Party politicians and staffers. He tracked who had been married to/shagging whom, who was currently married to/shagging whom, and what might happen next.

If you want to follow political bed hopping gossip, perhaps the Liars will be a more productive source of fascination?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2023 3:31 pm

“and forbid them not to come unto me: for of such is the need of the iron mine owners that they require child labour to go forth and slave underground until they are dead, whereby I score a tidy finder’s fee.”

Interesting that the Killing fields of Cambodia were perpetrated by the Communist Khmer Rouge, in search of a classless, agrarian society.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 3:34 pm

Here’s Dr Mercola on Cholesterol and Statins:

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 16, 2023 3:35 pm

Ive got a radical proposal.

How about we remove all references to race from the constitution altogether.

I await descriptions of why this would be racist.

duncanm
duncanm
June 16, 2023 3:36 pm

https://twitter.com/willscharf/status/1669333178962571264

Will Scharf
@willscharf
·
16h
I am a former Assistant U.S. Attorney, worked on two Supreme Court confirmations, and clerked for two federal appellate judges.
The indictment and case against President Trump is outrageous and shocking.

But let’s get into the details.

Here are my 6 key points on the case:

all 6 points are worth a read.. but check out Jack Smith.

Will Scharf
@willscharf
(6) Jack Smith: Why him?

If you could pick any lawyer in the country to handle a controversial case against a former president, a case involving an aggressive, unprecedented use of the Espionage Act, a controversial law in and of itself, what lawyer would you pick?

You’d probably want just a consummate professional, right? Career prosecutor with no political profile at all? White knight in shining armor who’s never lost a case?

Or you could pick Jack Smith.

I follow law stuff pretty closely. I’m a huge nerd. I knew who Jack Smith was before this, and the specific case he is most closely associated with in the public eye was the prosecution of Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell.

Remember that one? Using a very aggressive interpretation of the scope of federal bribery and honest services fraud statutes, Smith nuked the career and life of a popular Republican politician, before having all his convictions overturned by the Supreme Court in a 9-0 opinion.

You read that right, all nine Supreme Court justices smacked Jack Smith down for an overzealous, legally defective prosecution of a Republican politician. SCOTUS gutted him so badly that DOJ didn’t even try to re-try the case. They just dropped it.

And his wife is a leftist filmmaker who produced a hagiography of Michelle Obama.

And he currently lives in the Netherlands. Didn’t they have anyone else good on this side of the Atlantic?

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 3:36 pm

Fat Fascist Fool

Remind us again how the mob you support has as its only real policy agenda to slash the welfare state in favour of tax cuts for the rich.

Given that the mob you support is now fully in bed with the Big End of Town, like the good fascists they have become, perhaps you should take your own advice. Start with the huge subsidies that they move Heaven and earth to ensure will continue to flow to purveyors of Ruinable Energy in all its forms.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 3:40 pm

Fat Fascist Fool

precious few allies, most of which are as discredited

Back to school you semi-literate nong. That should be “most of whom …”

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 3:42 pm

m0ntysays:
June 16, 2023 at 2:22 pm
Dershowitz.

LOL. Anyone who favourably quotes that drongo automatically concedes the argument. What a loser.

Fat Fascist Fool: “I don’t have any logical argument to discredit an eminent lawyer, well known to be broadly on the left, so I will simply claim intellectual superiority.”

duncanm
duncanm
June 16, 2023 3:42 pm

Many years ago, Paul Sheehan did a column in the SMH about the personal links between senior Liars Party politicians and staffers.

here’s some snippets I saved – I think most of it is the work of Paul Sheehan.

GOOD evening ladies and gentlemen, or comrades, as we say in the Labor Party. Welcome to Melbourne. It’s a strange honour to be among you, resplendent in your blue scarfs and ties, which remind me of the hat bands worn at my old school Loreto Mandeville Hall in Toorak.

You are members of a society the great Bob Hawke once referred to as “economic lunatics and political troglodytes”. In fact, the Health Services Union directed me not to attend this gala, warning me off the “deathly embrace of the union-busters”. Therefore I am here as a private citizen.

My HSU colleagues also accused your society of becoming “a participant in internal union issues”. Friends, with respect, even with gung-ho soldiers like Peter Reith and Nick Minchin, I doubt any of you are equipped for one of our blood feuds.

It was once said there was an “industrial relations club” in Australia, made up of unions, employer bodies, advocates and the arbitration commission. Today, our movement is like a dysfunctional family, more like the Sopranos than the Sullivans.

So, as a person who has played the factional game as hard as anyone for two decades, I feel a sense of duty to tell you about our family. I’ll mention lovers, friends and foes, not because I’m a vindictive person but to be faithful to the story.

Yet, if there is an anti-union hate group, I believe its most insidious members are in our own ranks. Anyone who has been following the sorry saga involving Craig Thomson and the corrupt racket of his sugar daddy Michael Williamson will know exactly what I mean. Sadly, we are all tainted. A long time ago, the “Wobblies” wanted One Big Union. Well, we now have one, with sex, lies and credit cards.

To begin, the original story of Thomson’s alleged misdeeds was broken by The Sydney Morning Herald’s Mark Davis. He now works for Greg Combet, who was ACTU secretary before he entered politics. Awkward. Combet’s right-hand man during the campaign against Work Choices was George Wright, who then worked for Lindsay Tanner and Kevin Rudd before going corporate at National Australia Bank. Wright is now ALP national secretary and previously worked out of HSU offices in Sydney.

Wright replaced Karl Bitar, who now spruiks for James Packer. Bitar was the soulmate of Mark Arbib at Sussex Street, when he was running the NSW branch. As a senator in Canberra, Arbib shared a house for two years with a woman who works for Julia Gillard. That woman is Alexandra Williamson, daughter of Michael, HSU emperor, former ALP national president. On leave, delegates, last seen helping police with their inquiries.

Like your good friend Tony Abbott, who addressed you many years ago, I am no saint. I have deceived people and behaved ruthlessly. I have manoeuvred in a calculating fashion. By giving you a glimpse into Kathy’s World, I hope you will remain outside observers, rather than consorting with the enemy.

I am a child of Greek migrants who met and married here. They worked long hours in blue-collar jobs. Even though the family is Orthodox, my parents sent me to Catholic schools, where I got my strong sense of social justice from the nuns.

I was involved in Young Labor at university and became good friends with David Feeney, who is now a senator and parliamentary secretary. He is married to Liberty Sanger, my best friend, a board member of State Super and principal of law firm Maurice Blackburn. Nicola Roxon worked there. Another of its principals is Josh Bornstein, whose father David was a Labor MP in Victoria.

Josh was part of the legal team in the waterfront dispute and is now representing Peter Slipper in the sexual harassment case against the Speaker and the commonwealth brought by James Ashby. Disclosure: Ashby is being represented by Harmers Workplace Lawyers, which is helping me pro bono in my matters.

I can’t find a firm that’s not conflicted. Thomson is using Holding Redlich, the outfit founded by Clyde Holding, former Victorian opposition leader and Hawke government minister. Holding beat Simon Crean in a preselection for his father Frank’s old seat of Melbourne Ports in 1977.

That firm is representing the national office before Justice Geoffrey Flick in the federal court, a case Bill Shorten instigated to put the union into administration. Shorten is no friend of mine. Along with his cabinet and power-broking pal Stephen Conroy, he runs a right-wing grouping called the “ShortCons”. I love that name. Shorten and Conroy have got into bed in a stability alliance with the Left, which is headed by Kim “Il” Carr.

They used to shout at each other at ALP state conferences, now they make and break prime ministers. Feeney’s breakaway conservative group is called the “Taliban” by opponents or the “Right rump” and is aligned with the Shoppies and the National Union of Workers, which was previously the Storemen and Packers Union.

I knew Shorten and Evan Thornley, the former Victorian MP and tech entrepreneur, at uni. After graduation I got a job as an HSU organiser. We look after anyone who works at a hospital, particularly the low-paid. I am not a hero. If I have any ambition it is to help these people who recently won a minimum wage rise. Sadly, I see your organisation was opposed to that.

In 1995 I met Jeff Jackson, a fun bloke going places in the ALP. We married and people said we were the “Jackson faction”. Some claimed we ran the HSU as a fiefdom. That’s a joke, especially the way Thomson had run the show when he was national secretary from 2002 until he won the seat of Dobell in the Ruddslide.

As Fair Work Australia’s three-year investigation by Terry Nassios found, Thomson used union credit cards to splurge $500,000 on prostitutes, travel and fine dining. Full disclosure: my partner Michael Lawler, a former barrister, is vice-president of FWA, but he does not have control over investigative processes. Another declaration: Michael’s sons have done casual work for the HSU.

One of your speakers today, Doug Williams, was the industrial registrar who launched the investigation into the national office. He was succeeded at FWA by Tim Lee, who was assistant national secretary of the Australian Services Union and a factional player in the Victorian ALP. When Lee became an FWA commissioner, Bernadette O’Neill, former joint assistant national secretary of the Liquor Hospitality and Miscellaneous Workers Union (or the Missos), was dropped into the FWA hot seat as general manager. Don’t stop me if you’re not following all of this. Few people can join the dots, and one of them lives in the Lodge.

But as the FWA report found, Thomson employed without authorisation his half-brother Struan Robertson, while HSU funds were used to employ Criselee Stevens, daughter of a local councillor, and Matthew Burke, in roles to pump up Thomson’s profile in Dobell. At the time Burke was also working for NSW senator Steve Hutchins, the one-time Transport Workers Union boss. His wife Natalie Sykes won the Victorian seat of Keilor in 2010, succeeding George Seitz, who was very handy when it came to Shorten’s preselection, I recall.

According to the FWA report, without board approval Thomson set the wages and conditions of HSU national industrial officer Mark McLeay, son of former federal Speaker “Leaping Leo” and brother of one-time NSW MP Paul, who resigned from the ministry after being busted viewing pornography on a work computer. The report also said Thomson used HSU funds to pay Katie Hall to work on Labor’s marginal seat campaign in the Victorian seat of La Trobe in 2007.

Nassios found Thomson spent HSU money on travel for his former wife Christa. His current wife Zoe Arnold, who defended his behaviour in the papers, was a former NSW government adviser and media adviser to the TWU. Her union boss Tony Sheldon was elected as ALP national vice-president last year, while his wife Sarah Kaine was vice-president of the NSW branch.

The FWA report found Williamson did not keep his protege Thomson on a tight leash. He should have brought numerous issues to the attention of the national executive. As well, unauthorised payments were made to a charity associated with Williamson’s wife, Julie.

Michael, of course, was busy running his company United Edge, which provided IT and other services to the HSU, and employing his family and friends. His son Chris worked in the media unit and made music; his brother Darren was the recruitment and marketing manager; sister-in-law Monique Irvine was lead organiser; and close friend Cheryl McMillan was procurement manager.

Not all the HSU action was in Sydney. As I said, I was a tough player in bitter factional battles. I had a close ally in Marco Bolano, deputy general secretary of HSU East, who the delusional Thomson said in his cowardly parliamentary rant had threatened to “set him up with hookers”.

When I took over from Thomson in 2007, the union’s finances were a mess. I called in auditors, took action by bringing in Slater & Gordon, the mob Julia once worked for. By trying to clean up the HSU and in keeping my enemies at bay, there were further divisions. My long-time rival Pauline Fegan, state HSU president in 2009, once put me in a headlock. A grown woman! Fegan still denies it. Her forces were backed by Conroy and his TWU factional mates. Marco and I prevailed.

Today, the HSU faces a mortal threat, on the ground and in the courts. I am trying to bring the antiseptic of public scrutiny to bear on the disgraceful behaviour of HSU officials who are trying to protect Williamson.

I have no confidence in the national executive, some of whom are ALP operatives. Acting national president Chris Brown is a big-wig in Tasmania. One of our state secretaries, Lloyd Williams, is part of Gillard’s own sub-faction. Another HSU executive, Peter Mylan, is a Williamson lieutenant.

The claim that I took my allegations to the NSW Police to gain control of the union is ludicrous. I did so reluctantly, knowing it would bring down a world of attack and smear on me.

Disclosure: my partner wrote to Strike Force Carnarvon in a private capacity to draw attention to alleged misconduct by HSU officials Carol Glen and Gerard Hayes.

So that’s the family tree. It’s as much as my memory can muster. I apologise if I spoke too quickly or dropped a stray F-bomb. I know we will forever be opposed in the battle between capital and labour. But the truth is I have always engaged in politics seeking to protect and advance the interests of my real family, the hard-working members of the HSU. Thank you.

Anyway, Tanya was close to Anthony Albanese, the federal minister for trucks and hard hats. Albo’s married to Carmel Tebbutt. Can you believe the Deputy Premier is about to be ditched in the People’s Republic of Marrickville? She’s down to earth and has worked her guts out in health.

Carmel followed John Della Bosca in that hospital-pass portfolio. He came after Reba Meagher, who was once Joe Tripodi’s fiancee. They were in Young Labor when I was still at school.

I wonder what Joe’s going to do next. He’s only 43. Reba’s a single mum now. She was married to Tim Gleason, who did media for Bob Carr, Nathan Rees and Kevin Rudd. He deserves an AO.

Guess what? Carmel went to the same De La Salle School in Cronulla as Della, the alma mater of Michael Lee, NSW ALP president who was a minister when Paul Keating was PM. Anyway, his brother John Lee, the key man at the Tourism and Transport Forum, was director-general of the premier’s department when Rees became premier in 2008.

They were bloody hard days. I should write a book about it. Confessions of a Party Girl!

DLS Cronulla is a Labor factory, even though it’s in The Shire. Tony Sheldon, national secretary of the Transport Workers Union (who’s married to NSW ALP vice-president Sarah Kaine), went there, as did Steve Hutchins, who didn’t get up from the No.3 Senate spot last August. Gone. He was once married to Diane Beamer, the retiring member for Mulgoa, but Hutch is now hitched to Natalie Sykes, who won the Victorian seat of Keilor last year.

Another Cronulla old boy is Michael Forshaw, who is retiring in June after he got demoted on the Senate ticket to make way in Canberra for former NSW party boss Matt Thistlethwaite. Matt’s successor is Sam Dastyari, the guy running the campaign, not much older than you, actually.

KK called him a fool after he said Bazza O’Fazza was going to win this thing big. Hello. Read the memo. Like backroom Sam’s ever going to speak without getting the green light? He’s married to Helen, the daughter of Peter Barron, who worked for Bob Hawke when he was PM and he is a close mate of Graham Richardson.

You know Richo, from Sky? Everyone knows Richo. He took Della under his wing at Sussex Street. Della is married to Belinda Neal, who lost preselection for Robertson after that meltdown at Iguanas night spot a few years ago. Then Kevin747, of all people, made her take anger-management lessons. I love those ironies, it keeps me centred.

When Della left the upper house, his spot was taken by Sophie Cotsis, who used to work for Michael Costa. Did you see that piece he wrote in the Oz last year? What a rat. Are you following all this? Stop me if I ramble.

Costa used to write some out-there stuff when he was at the Labor Council with Mark Duffy, who also worked for Egan. Bonsai economy. The HR Nicholls crowd loved it. We used to denounce them at Young Labor, pass all these motions of condemnation.

Duffy married Seija Wolk, who worked for Costa, and is now deputy DG of minerals and energy. Pretty much a pointy-head bureaucrat these days. Costa is just mad. I reckon by Monday Costa and Morris Iemma will be taking the nuclear option.

Cassandra Wilkinson also worked for Costa and is one of Kristina’s senior advisers. You know Paul McLeay who resigned from the ministry last year after an audit found he’d been visiting porn sites on his work computer, that’s Cassandra’s husband. Paul’s father was the federal speaker in the house of reps, they used to call him “Leaping Leo”.

Costa’s office, like Egan’s in his day, was like a transit lounge for all sorts of people. I was only a junior staffer when he was transport minister. Later on Kelli Field, married to Mark Arbib, was Costa’s chief of staff when he was treasurer. So was John Whelan, who also worked for Carr and Kim Beazley and ended up as a policy guru for both the Ruddster and Julia Gillard.

There’s another John Whelan as well, the two are cousins. I pashed one once but can’t remember which one. That stays in the cone of gossip, okay? The second one worked for Egan and Grant McBride and is the son of the former police minister Paul Whelan. He was also a bureaucrat in the office of booze, pokies and punts and is now the guy in charge of responsible gambling at the Australian Hotels Association.

Speaking of gambling, have you seen the latest odds? I’m with Richo. I’ll bet you a bottle of Veuve we get fewer than 15 seats. If he wants it, John Robertson will be opposition leader. I saw Robbo in his cossies at the pool once. A sparky. Looks and sounds like a Labor man from the 60s. A lot of people can’t stand him, especially after he killed off the power sale that ended the careers of Iemma and Costa.

Robbo might not even win Blacktown. Paul Gibson, the guy they shafted in that seat, says it’s going to be a bloodbath on Saturday. Gibbo used to be on with Katherine Specking, who was married to Phil Koperberg, who is retiring as well. Bad blood there.

Gibbo’s former partner was Sandra Nori and she used to be married to John Faulkner. Ever heard Captain Specs sing? Great voice, nice man.

When Robbo entered parly, Keating sent him a letter saying he was ashamed to share membership of the same party. Those old blokes hate with a passion that’s missing these days. I reckon Twitter, Facebook and blogs take the heat out. You know the lobbyist Katherine Keating, PJK’s daughter, she used to work for Craig Knowles when he was planning minister and Tony Burke, who was with the Shoppies when I first met him, appointed Knowles to be the new chair of the Murray Darling Basin Authority. Here’s a tip, stay away from water. It always ends in tears.

Shhould we get another bottle? How about a Clare Shiraz? You know Jason Clare? Coming man as the great E.G. Whitlam used to say. He’s got Keating’s old seat of Blaxland and is now the Minister for Defence Materiel. Big dollars. His ex-partner is Davina Langton. I think she’s worked for every premier since Carr, been around even longer than I have. She worked for Joel Fitzgibbon in Canberra. Joel’s a laugh. My brother once had a job with him.

Davina’s dad is Brian Langton, the chair of Sydney Ferries. He was the transport minister who resigned after the Independent Commission Against Corruption found he had rorted charter flight expenses. He went to Marist Brothers Kogarah, another hatchery for Labor. Gaming Minister Kevin Greene went there and so did Richo. One day, I reckon Loreto or Santa girls will rule this town. We live in hope.

How about Karl Bitar? Gone-ski. But Karl and Arbib got Iemma home in 2007 and everyone said then they were geniuses. Karl’s wife is Joanna Woods. She’s worked for the party for years and was number four on the Senate ticket in 2004. Her father Harry Woods was a federal MP and a minister in the Carr government.

So you said you were related to the Fergusons. Who isn’t? Andrew could be a real star in the upper house but No.6 on the ticket is wicked. Paul Lynch is probably going to have four or five portfolios in opposition. Lynda Voltz has to be in the mix for the ministry. What do you call Martin and Laurie, uncle or comrade?

I haven’t got anything lined up in Canberra, but I know lots of people there. Maybe park myself at Hawker Britton. When Kevin07 was elected, he treated NSW staffers like we had the plague. But he burned advisers out and so many people have moved on after the election. Unlike Kevin! Lots of Victorians are going federal now.

This didn’t come from me, but I reckon this is a good election for us to lose. I need a rest. I’ve worked for four different ministers and I’ll get a six-figure redundancy when the Bazookas take over. Might even run in 2015 for my dad’s old seat, which the Libs will probably win because of the bloody independent. But never again, girlfriend.

So many women are leaving at this election. You know Tripodi’s sister-in-law Angela D’Amore in Drummoyne? Lost a lot of weight. She was dis-endorsed after the ICAC finding. And Tanya Gadiel in Parramatta is stepping down for family reasons. She used to be married to Michael Gadiel from Unions NSW, brother of Aaron who runs the Urban Taskforce lobby for developers.

Did I mention Beamer? Okay, Marie Andrews, Lylea McMahon and Alison Megarrity are stepping down as well. Tourism Minister Jodi McKay, best shoes in parly, looks gone for all money in Newcastle and Cherie Burton is fighting for her life in Kogarah.

Richo says we have to get used to losing and that the rot set in from week one of this term. The big losses will be Carmel and Verity Firth. She’s full of beans and good for morale, like her aunty Meredith Burgmann, who used to be president of the upper house. She’s the one who gives out the “Ernie” awards for atrocities against the sisterhood. Most of them from our side!

Verity has had a hard run. First, all that school building crap and then her husband Matthew Chesher, who worked for the Roads Minister David Borger, got arrested buying “e” in Glebe. Talk about a bitch of a year.

These jobs are like dog years. I feel 60. But, she said, taking another gulp, we make our own choishes love.

Speaking of ageing and volunteering, you know Peter Primrose’s press sec Patrick Keneally? His brother Ben was Iemma’s deputy chief of staff. They’re nephews of Thomas Keneally. He wrote Schindler’s Ark. Or was it Schindler’s List? I can never remember whish one. Major Labor famiglia. And guess who Ben’s sleeping with, my sister from another mister? KK, our fearless leader, the premier. Go girlfriend!

So here’s the goss. Shorten wants to amend the Fair Work Act to include
two statutory Vice President positions. This was not recommended by his
friendly review panel of the Act, not even mentioned. Given the
never-ending stream of union affiliated appointments to Fair Work
Australia, it is not as though they need anymore staff.

Initially, the money was on Josh Bornstein, Labor labour lawyer who made
his name defending the MUA during the waterfront dispute of 1998. He was
even portrayed in the laughably inaccurate ABC television drama – no
surprises on this last point. And the other appointment was intended for
Jeff Lawrence, the now deposed ACTU Secretary. He was deemed to be a poor
campaigner at the ACTU, if you know what I mean.

(We now have Dave Oliver at the ACTU with his girlfriend, ex-ACTU,
appointed to FWA and head of one of the panels. All so convenient.)

Prime Minister Gillard: was a partner in Slater & Gordon, the solicitors
acting for the Australian Workers Union. Also secretly acted as the lawyer
advising Bruce Wilson, her boyfriend, on the setting up of the “Australian
Workers Union Workplace Reform Association” slush fund and on the creation
of power of attorney to buy a house with some of the fraudulent proceeds.
(She says she knew nothing of the frauds or the operation of the
association.)

Attorney-General Nicola Roxon: as a lawyer with Maurice Blackburn worked
on the AWU account after Slater & Gordon discovered the slush fund,
invited Gillard to leave and ceased having the AWU as a client. Roxon
handed over sensitive documents to an investigation into the scams.

Workplace Minister Bill Shorten: was an official of the AWU during the
scam (but not involved). He was among those warned in 1996 that a royal
commission into the scandal had to be headed off or “we are all history”.
Took over the AWU branch Wilson had recently led. Became AWU national
secretary.

Agriculture Minister Joe Ludwig: was an employee at the time of the AWU,
whose president then and now was his father, powerful Labor identity Bill
Ludwig, a key Gillard backer. He was contacted in 1996 by a company that
had paid $29,000 into Wilson’s slush fund, thinking it was legitimate, and
had then asked by a union official if it “would be prepared to say that
the $29,000 that had been paid was a donation”.

Former Attorney-General and now backbencher Robert McClelland: As a
solicitor advised then AWU national secretary Ian Cambridge to try to
recover stolen stolen money and to call for a royal commission. Has said
the experienced convinced him of the need for tougher laws to recover
money from crooked union officials. Said an unnamed “third party” may have
benefited from Wilson’s scams.

Resources and Energy Minister Martin Ferguson: was president of the ACTU
until 1996, in which time the Keating Government was asked by the AWU’s
Cambridge to set up a royal commission into the AWU scandal. ACTU
secretary Bill Kelty was warned by other ACTU officials the commission
proposal had to be stopped, and was reported to be “supportive”. He
mediated in the scandal. Cambridge was appointed to the NSW Industrial
Relations Tribunal that same year. (There is no suggestion at all that
Kelty was involved in that appointment or acted anything less than
honorably.)

Backbencher Chris Hayes: Chair of the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Law
Enforcement. Was assistant national secretary of the AWU when he
counter-signed redundancy cheques to get rid of Wilson and bagman Ralph
Blewitt, now seeking immunity in exchange for giving evidence on Wilson’s
scams.

Senator David Feeney: Faction boss. Was a Transport Workers Union official
who in 1995 asked Gillard to explain why a builder wanted AWU payment for
work done on her house. Gillard told Slater & Gordon she spoke to Feeney
about her renovations to reassure him, and he in turn spoke to Bob Smith,
the AWU secretary who ousted Wilson over his rorts.

Russell Skelton (ABC Fact checking unit) is the husband of ABC presenter Virginia Trioli.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 3:55 pm

“You know the lobbyist Katherine Keating, PJK’s daughter, she used to work for Craig Knowles when he was planning minister and Tony Burke, who was with the Shoppies when I first met him, appointed Knowles to be the new chair of the Murray Darling Basin Authority. Here’s a tip, stay away from water. It always ends in tears.”

Thanks for posting that, I remember reading it years ago. It’s pretty sickening, isn’t it. But Labor look after their own.

Further to Katherine Keating, a friend and an associate of a well known convicted pedophile by the name of Jeffrey Epstein. Funny how the MSM has buried that story, I suspect if it had been a daughter of John Howard of Tony Abbott befriending and cosying up to Epstein, the MSM would not have been so strangely quiet.

Oh and as for pedophiles, I wonder if the resident pervert apologist has anything to say about Katherine Keating’s ‘disgraceful support for a convicted pedophile’?

Johnny Rotten
June 16, 2023 3:56 pm

Buccaneersays:
June 16, 2023 at 2:26 pm
What is a sea diver?

Reminds me of the old joke.

How do you circumcise a whale?

4 skin divers.

Ed will tell us they are sea divers…

That reminds me of an ‘Old One’ too –

Q. What’s big and drags along the sea floor?

A. Moby’s Dick.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2023 4:02 pm

Reminds me of the old joke.

“Why couldn’t they circumcise Gough Whitlam?

No end to the prick.”

Tom
Tom
June 16, 2023 4:08 pm

In the past seven hours, Tucker Carlson’s latest Twitter video has amassed more than 10 million viewings and in the next few hours will have totalled more than the 15 million viewers Carlson attracted each week at Fox News.

Fox’s senior management — all of them women, Carlson notes — think the viewers who made him No.1 in American cable news are idiots who should be treated like children (as the Australian nanny state does to Australians).

Well worth 13 minutes of your time as Fox News starts to disappear beneath the waves.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
June 16, 2023 4:09 pm

When they circumcised Dan Andrews, the surgeon forgot to remove the ears.

Hugh
Hugh
June 16, 2023 4:12 pm

Ol’ Billy the bard had m0nty’s number:

here’s an equivocator, that could swear in both the scales against either scale

Lysander
Lysander
June 16, 2023 4:24 pm

“Suffer little children,” said Jesus, “and forbid them not to come unto me: for of such is the need of the iron mine owners that they require child labour to go forth and slave underground until they are dead, whereby I score a tidy finder’s fee.”

Munted bagging China!!! Who would’ve thought!!!???

Miracles happen…. perayse Jesus!

duncanm
duncanm
June 16, 2023 4:27 pm

duncanmsays:
June 16, 2023 at 3:42 pm

just looking through that – I think much of it was Kathy Jackson’s big dump when the whole HSU fraud with Craig Thomson et. al. blew up.

Lysander
Lysander
June 16, 2023 4:27 pm

Hendo is worth a read this arvo, he mentions Tucker, Ukraine and Probyn etc..

https://thesydneyinstitute.com.au/blog/issue-639/

Vicki
Vicki
June 16, 2023 4:30 pm

Many years ago, Paul Sheehan did a column in the SMH

I really enjoyed the work of Paul Sheehan. He spent years overseas, returned to Oz & couldn’t believe how much it had gone backward. He then wrote “Among the Barbarians” which raised the ire of the Left – which then went after him in big way. He was particularly concerned about the proliferation of Middle Eastern immigrants – as were many around the globe as the Middle Eastern diaspora quickened.

I believe he ran foul of the Left when he published a controversial story about the rape of a woman.

Lysander
Lysander
June 16, 2023 4:37 pm

Hahah Hendo raises a good point that all the journos on ABC were lamenting the loss of Mr “Abbot-is-the-most-divisive-PM-ever” Probyn due to cuts, and commenting on how wonderful a journo he was.

Hendo’s response: Obviously not enough.

Speedbox
June 16, 2023 4:37 pm

Tom says:
June 16, 2023 at 4:08 pm
In the past seven hours, Tucker Carlson’s latest Twitter video has amassed more than 10 million viewings and in the next few hours will have totalled more than the 15 million viewers Carlson attracted each week at Fox News.

You have probably noticed Tom that Carlson’s 3rd posting about American Principles has a whopping 93m views. To be fair, a number of those would be offshore from the USA but even so, that’s a colossal reach.

Lysander
Lysander
June 16, 2023 4:40 pm

I agree Speedsta, but Fox would’ve known what his show’s overseas reach was and I think this blows it out of the water.. its 1/60th of the world’s population, no?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 4:54 pm

Someone mentioned Paul Sheehan of the SMH upthread.
I used to enjoy his articles but unfortunately he wrote an article in 2016 “The Story of Louise” about the alleged rape of a Sydney nurse in 2002 by a group of Arabic men.
Turns out it was total fabrication, and he resigned.
I wondered whether he had been set up but, even so, checking the facts is part of the job.
I am so old I can remember when the Left hated fabricated rape stories.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 4:57 pm

To be clear, I am not suggesting Paul Sheehan fabricated that story.
I think he was fed bullshit and discouraged from fact checking because of “fragile state of victim”.
And here we go again.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2023 4:57 pm

I believe he ran foul of the Left when he published a controversial story about the rape of a woman.

Paul Sheehan wrote “Girls Like You” – an account of the rope of a number of young girls by a group of Mooslime brothers. One of them, Tegan Wagner, wrote her own account of the rope and her battle with the legal system. Very brave and gutsy lady.

bespoke
bespoke
June 16, 2023 4:57 pm

The heart of Christianity is faith in Jesus; good works are the fruit of that faith.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is putting the proverbial cart before the horse

Interesting.

Are good deeds worthless without faith?

Johnny Rotten
June 16, 2023 4:58 pm

Speedboxsays:
June 16, 2023 at 4:37 pm
Tom says:
June 16, 2023 at 4:08 pm
In the past seven hours, Tucker Carlson’s latest Twitter video has amassed more than 10 million viewings and in the next few hours will have totalled more than the 15 million viewers Carlson attracted each week at Fox News.

You have probably noticed Tom that Carlson’s 3rd posting about American Principles has a whopping 93m views. To be fair, a number of those would be offshore from the USA but even so, that’s a colossal reach.

I understand that the latest Tucker Carlson posting is his fourth and I posted the ‘You Choob’ link here earlier on..

m0nty
m0nty
June 16, 2023 5:00 pm

The pervert apologist’s anti-Semitism pops up again.

FMD!! I am quoting the Bible, Cranky. Take issue with Jesus, not me.

Speedbox
June 16, 2023 5:01 pm

Lysander says:
June 16, 2023 at 4:40 pm

Yes. I’m no expert on these matters at all and have no experience in producing podcasts, youtube content, social media etc but I recognise a big number when I see it. And 93m views for Carlson’s 3rd posting and 10m+ in just a few hours for the 4th posting would be an advertiser’s wet dream (at least I would have thought so).

Lysander
Lysander
June 16, 2023 5:02 pm

Agreed DB, I wasn’t saying I endorsed it 🙂

Hugh
Hugh
June 16, 2023 5:09 pm

Even the devil quotes scripture.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 16, 2023 5:11 pm

I like Paul Sheehan’s work too. He did a book on the media in the early 2000s that was handy. I remember a funny chapter on Mike Carlton and Phatty Adams. They loathed each other but he pointed out their shared hypocrisy.

I know we have a couple of decent journos here, but he would be a good additional commenter too.

Lysander
Lysander
June 16, 2023 5:11 pm

Any Cats got any ideas for a Biden slogan for 24?

How about…

-Make America a Memory Again (MAMA)?
-If you don’t vote for me, you aint trans?
-I got gas?

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 5:12 pm

Sheehan was the last of the old style journos at Fairfax. A good writer. However, like a lone soldier on a battlefield, he held out at Fairfax for as long as possible however the activists were determined to get him, particularly the likes of Marr, Price and others. They spent years trying to get rid of him. Sheehan’s crime? Well, in the eyes of the left he was guilty of many crimes but he ran afoul of the Fairfax activists because of his writings on Labor corruption and dunderhead apparatchiks, and he particularly aggrieved the likes of Marr and others with his accurate writings on multiculturalism, and the Muesli rape gangs. And then one day they did get him. Whether he was set up with the “Louise” story, I don’t know. I stopped buying the SMH fourteen years ago however I always made an effort to read Sheehan when at work, and I haven’t read the SMH since his departure. I just tear out the puzzles from the work newspaper.

Lysander
Lysander
June 16, 2023 5:12 pm

Even the devil quotes scripture.

Yup! Nefarious the movie – if you haven’t seen it Cats, you are missing out. It like Tucker Carlson but dark and shows you how the Enemy works (without the stupid gore and shit)…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2023 5:13 pm

Ms Wagner was was one of a number of teenage women attacked who took the perpetrators – a group of Pakistani brothers – to court.

But during the trial four years later, which was delayed nine times, she was made to withstand days of intense cross-examination, where she said she was ‘made to feel dirty’.

During the traumatising court-room experience, Ms Wagner was faced with nearly 2,000 questions from the defence team, according to Nine News.

After returning to the building in a promotional clip, she said she was hit by emotions while standing in the dock.

‘This was the three days of hell, this is where you get made to feel raped again,’ she said.

‘You’re being told that you lied about it, that it didn’t happen, that you as a person must be some sort of jezebel because you put yourself in that situation.’

Trial was delayed as the defendants sacked their counsel, and repeatedly claimed the only reason they were being prosecuted was on the grounds of their religion.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 5:14 pm

“Probyn”

I have zero sympathy for him.

Dot
Dot
June 16, 2023 5:15 pm

Remind us again how the mob you support has as its only real policy agenda to slash the welfare state in favour of tax cuts for the rich.

High taxes and the dole is not much to cheer about. Labor Party first preferences have dropped to around 35% and have been as low as 25% in general elections.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 16, 2023 5:16 pm

FMD!! I am quoting the Bible, Cranky. Take issue with Jesus, not me.

No you weren’t. You were twisting two well known passages into political opinions. I am happy for you to express what you sincerely believe, but to enlist Jesus at that point to bash capitalism per se is ridiculous. Context is always important.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 16, 2023 5:21 pm

Today’s lesson will be read by mUnty. No really.

m0nty
m0nty
June 16, 2023 5:26 pm

You were twisting two well known passages into political opinions.

The Bible is supposed to be relevant to everyday life, RD. Otherwise, what is the point of it? It’s not an entertainment like Harry Potter.

Even the devil quotes scripture.

Oh FFS Hugh, you pompous windbag.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
June 16, 2023 5:27 pm

In the past seven hours, Tucker Carlson’s latest Twitter video has amassed more than 10 million viewings and in the next few hours will have totalled more than the 15 million viewers Carlson attracted each week at Fox News.

Tom, much as I heartily recommend Tucker’s latest (indeed, pretty much all of his work, especially now freed from the shackles), you are equating apples with oranges when it comes to “views”.

On Twitter, as with all web sites, my understanding is that a “view” is that you’ve seen the piece of content. Not that you’ve watched it.

Given his drawing power, I have little doubt that as many, or more, eyeballs have watched the whole thing than watched his show on any given night, but that cannot be deduced from the public stats.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
June 16, 2023 5:33 pm

Now reading up (heartily recommended!), not just Tom.

Tucker has not had 93 million people watch his latest 13 or so minutes.

I’m kinda excited by his new direction, but let us restrain ourselves.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 5:34 pm

duncanm

Not the column I was thinking of, but it gives a good sense of the degree of incestuousness in the Liars. The Sheehan had a lot more on the NSW inter-relationships between party members, including much bedroom hopping.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 16, 2023 5:34 pm

Of course it’s relevant, but you’re trying to transplant a dumb critique of capitalism onto Jesus cleansing the temple courts of money changers.

There doesn’t appear to be any account of him doing that in a normal marketplace. The fact they were in the courts meant they were exploiting people’s religious observance to make a quick shekel selling various offerings.

Again, context is important. There may be implied critiques of capitalism and socialism in the Bible, but you won’t find them in that passage.

Titus: over and out.

miltonf
miltonf
June 16, 2023 5:36 pm

The fat turd sounds like a 2nd lesbian sociology student at UNSW in 1976.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
June 16, 2023 5:38 pm

Visiting Sydeney, staying in Edgecliff. Wondering if I’ll pass by a Çat unbeknownst… 😀

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 16, 2023 5:39 pm

mUnty’s just experimenting.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 5:39 pm

Vicki

I believe he ran foul of the Left when he published a controversial story about the rape of a woman.

It was about the Islamic pack rapes of several “Skippy”(their description) girls. The leftards never forgave either the prosecutor nor Sheehan for the resultant jail terms meted out.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
June 16, 2023 5:40 pm

Any Cats got any ideas for a Biden slogan for 24?

How about…

-Make America a Memory Again (MAMA)?
-If you don’t vote for me, you aint trans?
-I got gas?

If you don’t vote for me, you ain’t trains, I mean trans, oh you know the thing, man
Bribe back better
A vote for Biden is a vote for hypocrisy, I mean democracy
I’m not avoiding a debate I just prefer a mass debate.

Speedbox
June 16, 2023 5:40 pm

Just lit the fire. The cat made a beeline for pole position. Let the dogs in (2 Border Collies) who promptly badgered the cat and moved her aside. She complained but the dogs were indifferent. I bought some scones today so I think it’s time to heat them and add some jam and cream. Mrs Speedbox and the kids are out. Some quiet ‘me’ time. Things could be worse.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 5:43 pm

m0ntysays:
June 16, 2023 at 5:00 pm
The pervert apologist’s anti-Semitism pops up again.

FMD!! I am quoting the Bible, Cranky. Take issue with Jesus, not me

Pathetic even by your miserable standards. You started with a partial quote, then added your own fantasy opinion of what you thought the quote should be.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2023 5:44 pm

The fat turd sounds like a 2nd lesbian sociology student at UNSW in 1976.

Harsh, but fair!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 16, 2023 5:44 pm

Spelling errors have consequences. Dover will know.

Test.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 5:47 pm

“FMD!! I am quoting the Bible, “

Who’s the cranky one here!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 16, 2023 5:49 pm

I’d be nice if they credited Dutchsinse for highlighting all of this … that’s his voice. With that said, the Canadian Castro backed MSM whores have started to attack him for pointing out the obvious.

Arson!

Fire coverage @2:50

First DeAnna Lorraine is joined by Dr William Makis, who brings evidence that the Canada wildfires that have been roaring are 100% intentional and orchestrated by government Arsonists! He also drops new bombshells about disfigured babies, fetal heart attacks and more that are being hidden by VAERS.
Then DeAnna is joined by Dr. Dawn Michael who shares her story of her husband being targeted and murdered by Remdesivr, and what’s been happening to her since she’s been blowing the whistle.

Proof Canada Fires INTENTIONAL by Gov’t Arsonists! Plus mRNA & Baby Deformities Bombshell!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 16, 2023 5:50 pm

On Twitter, as with all web sites, my understanding is that a “view” is that you’ve seen the piece of content. Not that you’ve watched it.

I believe most of the large content providers (youtube, twitter etc) do monitor the extent of viewing as well as clicks.
It would be interesting to see what % are 100% and what % are 30 seconds and out.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2023 5:51 pm

The leftards never forgave either the prosecutor nor Sheehan for the resultant jail terms meted out.

One of the features of that case was that, as the revolting family sat in the witness box, blatantly perjuring themselves, and playing the religious card to claim they weren’t getting a fair trial, their mother arrived in Australia, with the eighth of her children, having been granted residency by the Australian Government…

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2023 5:53 pm

“The leftards never forgave either the prosecutor nor Sheehan for the resultant jail terms meted out.”

Correct, they also loathe Margaret Cunneen, who was the prosecutor, and they have been out to get her for the last two decades, hence the ICAC stitch up against her six years ago. I’ve spoken to Margaret about this and she says, without any doubt whatsoever, that the ICAC witch hunt against her was deliberate hit job because she’s a well known conservative.

Here’s a fact, the left don’t some rapes, when the victims are poor white working class girls from the western suburbs of Sydney, just like in the UK where the left have happily ignored the Pakistani rape gangs because the victims have almost always been white working class English girls.

The left are stinking hypocrites.

Muddy
Muddy
June 16, 2023 5:57 pm

Tom says:
June 16, 2023 at 4:08 pm

In the past seven hours, Tucker Carlson’s latest Twitter video …
Well worth 13 minutes of your time as Fox News starts to disappear beneath the waves.

I’m not a fan of twatter (at least pre-Elon), and I only very occasionally watched Tucker prior to his separation from Faux, but that monologue was very well done.

(I’d suggest the Australian Liberal Party take notes, but who gives a faecal clump about those dripping zombies?).

Hugh
Hugh
June 16, 2023 5:59 pm

Oh FFS Hugh, you pompous windbag.

Well at least there is something you and my missus can agree upon!

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 16, 2023 6:00 pm

Ask yourself “Was it rape rape?”. There’s your answer.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 16, 2023 6:01 pm

I do stand corrected. Are the MSM whores over here providing a proper critique of this crap. I think not.

Freedom Media WA:

Live Stream: Red Tape Nightmare on the Aboriginal Heritage Act Amendments.

Live Stream: Red Tape Nightmare on the Aboriginal Heritage Act Amendments

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 16, 2023 6:01 pm

Might pop in through the night, but off to have drinks. Footy and cricket shall be watched, with a fervent hope that Warner does what Paddy shot. Toodle pip!
And yes calli, I will use coasters (chortle)

m0nty
m0nty
June 16, 2023 6:01 pm

RD, if you don’t think the money-changers story is a criticism of capitalism – implied or otherwise – then you are too dumb to argue with.

Sheesh. Some people.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 6:02 pm

Real Dealsays:

June 16, 2023 at 5:11 pm

I like Paul Sheehan’s work too.

Yes, he did good work.
It was the measure of the man that, when it became apparent that he had published dud information, he took responsibility for it and resigned.
Compare and contrast that sense of honour and personal accountability with the Cane Toad.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 16, 2023 6:04 pm

Vikki Campion: War widows wait as political payouts rushed through

Labor has rushed staffers’ payouts through the express lane while war widows have been told to wait.

While Brittany Higgins received the government’s version of a VIP pass with a fast-tracked compensation claim, those who lost mothers, fathers, husbands and wives were told to get in the queue at the Department of Veterans Affairs.

In the same year that Labor ticked off on Higgins’ claim after a single day of mediation, nearly two-thirds of war widows had their claim processed late, beyond the 30-day deadline.

If they can fast-track a payment for Higgins why not war widows and orphans?

Veterans are looking at these compensation cases in parliament and shaking their heads.

All of whom, by the way, have been quiet about it.

If only they had worked overtime in an electoral office for a Teal instead of swimming the Pacific Ocean, retrieving dead bodies from the water around the boats of people smugglers.

If only they had lost a self-proclaimed future career in politics instead of offering their life for Australia, to suffer nerve damage, insomnia, uncontrollable shakes and the crippling of limbs.

If only media elites had weaponised their cases, maybe then the claims of orphaned children and widowed spouses would have been dealt with in a more expeditious manner.

The draft statement of claim said Higgins had been “diagnosed as medically unfit for any form of ­employment and has been given a very poor prognosis for future ­employment”.

Remember that this $2.5 million claim was not paid for her alleged rape but her stress in making a rape claim in her workplace and that her chances of pursuing a career in politics was ruined.

The $2.5 million figure in the early draft was based on Ms Higgins’ 2021 salary over a 40-year period, so essentially, it was calculated based on the presumption that Scott Morrison would have remained Prime Minister for the next 40 years – unless she believes you can just flit between different offices of opposing political parties.

In comparison, if you lost an eye fighting for your country, that’s a payout of $56 a week. Over 40 years, that’s $120,000.

Climate 200 staffer Sally Rugg received a $100,000 payout with no admission of fault by the federal Government for working overtime, “creating an unsafe workplace”.

Labor decided that the pain Higgins endured in making a claim in the parliament was the equivalent of 21 soldiers for 40 years having their eye shot out.

A soldier who loses a leg and an arm and an eye gets paid by the federal Government $789 a week, or over 40 years about $1.6 million.

Using this math, Labor believes the stress and loss of future earnings for a junior Liberal staffer were nearly $1 million worse than a soldier who lost an arm, leg, and an eye.

We’re starting to understand why they tried to keep these details secret for so long.

If everyone who had worked in Parliament House was entitled to payouts of that size, we’d have to create a contingent liability for about $10 billion.

This payout sets an absurd precedent for political staffers, some of whom were never going to have careers that hit the high notes.

There is something deeply wrong when Australia’s defence claims system is so complex and difficult to navigate that veterans sometimes wait more than 300 days for a decision, while political staffers with the ammunition to bring down a government get priority.

The guy who sacrificed his body waits. The widow whose husband died in conflict, or by suicide after years of struggling with PTSD, waits.

Last year, war widows told the Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicides they only get a case assessor to consider their claim after they went to the media.

Daily Tele

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2023 6:07 pm

Death by food.

Brisbane restaurant could be awarded title for Australia’s hottest burger (Sky News, 16 Jun)

A Brisbane restaurant could be awarded the title for Australia’s hottest burger. Burger Urge’s ‘Nashville Death Wish’ is so hot, customers must sign a safety waiver before eating it.

I like their style. I was in Coles this morning and passed the chillies section, which was well stocked. There was a whole tray of habaneros, although I didn’t buy any though since I have plenty of Habanero Tabasco in my cupboard (7000 Scoville). It was amazing to see since western Ncl is as Anglo as it gets. Not big on weird cuisine.

cohenite
June 16, 2023 6:07 pm

Sheesh. Some people.

Steady folks, dickless is suffering.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 16, 2023 6:08 pm

Sheesh. Some people.

But before I meld into the night, this khunt has the audacity to utter these words. Won’t go through his list of people he supports, like Frock Hudson and the greatest of perverse arseholes in Biden, so I won’t.
Of course the list be a sickening display of humanity at its worst. Disappear up your own arse fat lesbian.

cohenite
June 16, 2023 6:11 pm

Latest from Geller:

LGBT Activists Flood Target With Bomb Threats, Shameless Media Pretend Conservatives Did It

Networks Devote ZERO Seconds to Biden Bombshell of Million Dollar Bribery Phone-Calls, But Run 291 Minutes of Trump Classified (Hoax)

Alex Soros Vows To Defeat Trump, Pledging to Deploy Huge Financial Resources In the 2024 Election

Fox Celebrating Pride By Encouraging Employees to Read about “Glory Holes,” Supports Group That Gives Sterilizing Hormones to Homeless Youth

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2023 6:12 pm

Veterans are looking at these compensation cases in parliament and shaking their heads

Ever wonder why you fvcking well bothered?

Muddy
Muddy
June 16, 2023 6:13 pm

The left are stinking hypocrites.

Not to argue with you, Cassie (I’m becoming a quiet admirer of your vampire-killer attitude, and I very much hope it continues to develop), but hypocrisy is irrelevant.

If I may be tediously repetitive: It’s about gang culture. You’re either an insider, or an outsider. Nothing else.*

Insiders can do practically whatever they want to outsiders, as long as their actions do not threaten the security of the gang (i.e. bring unwanted attention that cannot be handled using standard resources and tactics), and they will be protected (and accepted, if they continue to confirm to the internal rules).

However, an insider cannot do to another insider what they did to an outsider, unless this is sanctioned by the gang (repercussions for breaking internal rules).

To cut a long story short, it isn’t what is done, but who does it.
You are either protected, or not. If it serves the interests of the gang (the cause/party), the behaviour is acceptable. The gang makes the rules. If you are a member of the gang, the gang’s rules are primary. Society’s rules (outsiders) are secondary.

*There is, of course, an internal hierarchy, but the insider-outsider categorisation is supreme.

Bruce in WA
June 16, 2023 6:14 pm

From a thread on the previous page, which ties in with comments that followed on literacy. According to SkyNews: Statistics suggest Australians are having less children (Sky News, 15 Jun)

Might I suggest that, since “children” is a count noun, they are having “fewer” of them.

I’ll preface the following remarks with a note that I was, in a former life, a language advisory teacher and English specialist, and I am married to one of Australia’s leading reading specialists.

We both agree: There is NO single method of teaching reading that works for ALL students. Not phonics, not whole word, not look and say, not … anything. The knack is to find what works for each child and teach accordingly. (Incidentally, most teachers know jackshit about phonics themselves, and much of what they think they know is, in fact, incorrect.)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 6:14 pm

At huge personal risk I will wade into the Biblical debate.
I always understood the “casting out of the money changers from the Temple” was one of the appropriateness of carrying on commerce in the Temple, not engaging in commercial activities per se.
This distinction would seem to fit with “render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar’s, render unto God what is God’s”.
Then again, there is “it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God”.
I’ll just leave that one there.
I dare not consult Titus.

Muddy
Muddy
June 16, 2023 6:14 pm

confirm = conform.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2023 6:17 pm

Networks Devote ZERO Seconds to Biden Bombshell

I had an amusing call from my elderly mum this arvo. Last week my brother got her television working again, since she was curious to see if it was worth watching.

No. Hell no.

She said it was totally impossible to watch, and she’s gone back to reading books.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2023 6:18 pm

On the Brittany Higgins case, I’m told that not wearing knickers under a white dress can have dire consequences, should Mademoiselle pass wind…

Muddy
Muddy
June 16, 2023 6:21 pm

That was a bit more visual than expected, Zulu.

Frank
Frank
June 16, 2023 6:21 pm

Be the sand in Monty’s vagina.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2023 6:24 pm

Sancho, you left out the next two verses.

26 The disciples were even more amazed, and said to each other, “Who then can be saved?” 27 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God.”

Calvanist theology is actually just Bible theology. I won’t win many friends by saying so though. 😀

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 16, 2023 6:27 pm

Not a bad effort, Sancho. I wouldn’t necessarily link it to the render to Caesar verse, but I think you’re on the money regarding the moneychangers. You get a 4 Tituses out of 5 for that one.

When I did a degree, we found out that there were Marxist commentaries on the Gospel of John. Or “A feminist reading of Matthew”. Or worst of all; “A feminist-lesbian reading of Titus” – yes, such volumes exist. Monster appears to be doing some sort of socialist reading of the Gospels.

I’m not an expert on economic theory. I leave that to JC ;). I at least did a theological degree for whatever it’s worth.

Luzu
Luzu
June 16, 2023 6:27 pm

Monty,

Unfortunately for you, the “Sheesh. Some people.” just comes across as a bit lame. It is obvious from your multitude of previous comments that while you may be familiar with some Bible stories, you lack knowledge and understanding of the Bible as a whole and the “sheesh” thing is a way of avoiding engaging with the substance of RD’s and Hugh’s comments.

Jesus was not critiquing the people changing money and selling offerings to the assembled faithful. He was incensed that they were doing so in a holy place reserved for the contemplation and worship of God. Hence His righteous anger.

You might also like to ponder His words in other parts of the Bible:

“Look to the ant, thou sluggard.”

And:

“He who does not work, neither shall he eat.”

Hmmmm.

Muddy
Muddy
June 16, 2023 6:28 pm

Firetruck every politician and the horses they came riding in on.
Wait.
They came riding in on us, didn’t they?
Well, firetruck us then.

Hugh
Hugh
June 16, 2023 6:28 pm

too dumb to argue with

Hypocrisy, thy name is m0nty.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 6:29 pm

m0ntysays:
June 16, 2023 at 5:26 pm
You were twisting two well known passages into political opinions.

The Bible is supposed to be relevant to everyday life, RD. Otherwise, what is the point of it? It’s not an entertainment like Harry Potter.

The Bible as written is, but your perverted version to tout your political opinions is NOT.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 16, 2023 6:30 pm
Real Deal
Real Deal
June 16, 2023 6:30 pm

Brilliant stuff, Luzu.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 16, 2023 6:31 pm

RD, if you don’t think the money-changers story is a criticism of capitalism – implied or otherwise – then you are too dumb to argue with.

Lets consult the Catholics
https://catholicexchange.com/what-did-jesus-drive-out-the-moneychangers/

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 6:34 pm

m0ntysays:
June 16, 2023 at 6:01 pm
RD, if you don’t think the money-changers story is a criticism of capitalism – implied or otherwise – then you are too dumb to argue with.

Sheesh. Some people.

How do you describe the parable of the talents?

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 6:39 pm

I always understood the “casting out of the money changers from the Temple” was one of the appropriateness of carrying on commerce in the Temple, not engaging in commercial activities per se.

No, Sancho.
Since I’m a Christian and you’re not, I forgive you.
What was happening was taxes had to be paid in Silver.
However, hicks in Judea didn’t have Silver, so they had to exchange Stock, Produce, or Goods for Silver.
That’s where the moneychangers came in.
Did they swindle the hicks?
Did they F*ck!

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 16, 2023 6:43 pm

Are good deeds worthless without faith?
Of course not, Bespoke- but they are happenstance.
To even assess a deed as good, you need a position of faith.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 16, 2023 6:44 pm

However, hicks in Judea didn’t have Silver, so they had to exchange Stock, Produce, or Goods for Silver.

Would Gypsum do as a substitute, Groogs?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 16, 2023 6:44 pm

Nelson, just got online here and saw your comment about staying East here. I passed by Edgecliff station on New South Head Road twice today going to dance class and back. If I’d known I could have shouted you a welcoming Sydney coffee, sweaty and all. Now I’m pretty busy with a birthday party at ours tomorrow, then we’re headed down to Bateman’s Bay to see my Big Sis for a few days. How long are you in town?

If you regularly come to Sydney then drop me or Rabz an email (via Dover) and we’ll put your email address on the list for a pub meet up sometime and if you’re around you can drop in then. Same for others likely to be in Sydney or domiciled here.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 6:45 pm

Muddysays:
June 16, 2023 at 6:13 pm
The left are stinking hypocrites.

Not to argue with you, Cassie (I’m becoming a quiet admirer of your vampire-killer attitude, and I very much hope it continues to develop), but hypocrisy is irrelevant.

If I may be tediously repetitive: It’s about gang culture. You’re either an insider, or an outsider. Nothing else.*

To cut a long story short, it isn’t what is done, but who does it.
You are either protected, or not. If it serves the interests of the gang (the cause/party), the behaviour is acceptable. The gang makes the rules. If you are a member of the gang, the gang’s rules are primary. Society’s rules (outsiders) are secondary.

*There is, of course, an internal hierarchy, but the insider-outsider categorisation is supreme.

Note that the Labor “insider” is supreme, that the Slime are honorary “insiders”, as long as they support Labor objectives.

Thorpe is to some extent now an “outsider”, because of her opinions on the InVoice, but remains on the periphery as long as she attacks Liberals. Should she, however, attack Labor for the attitude on many of its “insiders” to Labor women (Hello Billie) she will get the full treatment.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2023 6:52 pm

I’ve had broken bones. Opioids definitely help with pain management.

Sounds like you need more auditing.

Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2023 6:54 pm

Dr. John Campbell

Heart deaths in Australia

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 16, 2023 6:55 pm

Thorpey was crying yesterday talking about it.

Julia Banks had a bit to say after Higgins went public.
She said that she’d worked in Senior Positions with the Banks and she’d never seen anything like Parliament House.
At the time she was past 50 and blokes in their early twenties were routinely hitting her up for a root.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 16, 2023 6:58 pm

A PROMINENT independent college on Hobart’s Eastern Shore is under investigation by a national education body after a former employee – the principal’s son-in-law – allegedly “restrained” an eight-year-old student.

Eastside Lutheran College, a kindergarten to Year 12 co-ed school at Warrane with more than 400 students, is being investigated by Lutheran Education Victoria, NSW & TAS (LEVNT).

It comes as 19 staff members left the school last year, with a further nine resigning this year, a source from independent Education Union Victoria Tasmania said.

The former staff member at the centre of the alleged incident is Nathan James Castle,

the son-in-law of the school’s principal, Wendy Ruback. He is married to Kate Castle, Ms Ruback’s daughter and the school’s director of teaching and learning.

Mr Castle was employed at the school as a teacher’s assistant. It is understood he is currently studying education.

On May 25, Mr Castle was assigned to accompany a Year 2 female student with learning challenges.

The Mercury can reveal that following the incident, Mr Castle had his Working With Vulnerable People (WWVP) card suspended.

He is currently not working at the school, LEVNT say.

LEVNT executive director Julian Denholm confirmed the incident in a written statement.

“An incident occurred where a teacher assistant allegedly restrained a student. This was reported to the appropriate authority and an investigation is ongoing,” Mr Denholm said.

“The college has acted promptly and appropriately to protect the wellbeing of students and staff in this matter.

“The staff member has had their WWVP suspended pending the outcome of the investigation and is currently not working at the college.”

Mr Denholm said the college was co-operating with the investigation.

Ms Ruback told the Mercury as the situation involved a family member, it was “difficult personally”.

“It is difficult personally to have these allegations made against a family member, but I trust the process which has been put in place and am confident that the outcome will be fair and just,” Ms Ruback said.

Ms Ruback said she and Ms Castle were taking leave “to let the process run its course”.

“All of my staff work very hard and are a magnificent team of caring professionals. I trust them implicitly and know they will continue to uphold the ethics and values that make ELC a very special place,” she said.

“The college takes its responsibilities towards the care of children very seriously.”

Ms Ruback said an independent investigator assigned to LEVNT would report the findings to the organisation’s director of education.

She said one teacher had applied for workers’ compensation and another had resigned following the incident.

When asked about departures from staff at the school, Ms Ruback said staff had left “for a variety of reasons”.

“The College always has the best interests of the students where staffing is concerned,” she said.

Tasmania Police confirmed they attended the incident but no charges were laid.

Hobart Mercury

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 16, 2023 7:00 pm

At the time she was past 50 and blokes in their early twenties were routinely hitting her up for a root.

Asking politely for a root is not rape.

As much as the legbeard brigade wish to make it so, it just isnt.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 16, 2023 7:02 pm

A PROMINENT independent college on Hobart’s Eastern Shore is under investigation by a national education body after a former employee – the principal’s son-in-law – allegedly “restrained” an eight-year-old student.

A primary school on the mainland had a practice with a grade three kid who occasionally went on a rampage.

While he stayed outside, throwing stones and smashing windows, the school went into “lockdown” with all staff and the kids cowering inside

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2023 7:04 pm

Here’s a fact, the left don’t some rapes, when the victims are poor white working class girls from the western suburbs of Sydney, just like in the UK where the left have happily ignored the Pakistani rape gangs because the victims have almost always been white working class English girls.

The left are stinking hypocrites.

The media also don’t care about the raped aboriginal girls in NT and remote settlements. To make a fuss would reveal the real aboriginal culture and not the one they are pushing onto the nation.

Tom
Tom
June 16, 2023 7:09 pm

Pauline Hanson’s Please Explain. Brilliant as usual.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
June 16, 2023 7:27 pm

Hiya Lizzie! Got the tribe up from Melbourne for a long weekend. I’m not in charge of schedule so it’s hard to commit! Doing a walking tour of Vivid, now… 🙂

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2023 7:27 pm

Anyone else get an email from AGL today regarding the price hikes?
I’m sure that had nothing to do with AGL being the best performing stock in the ASX300 today.

Luzu
Luzu
June 16, 2023 7:30 pm

Crossie,

Living in Perth for the past twenty years, I have often thought of the Aboriginal youth in our state’s north west for whom there is no protection under the law. Imagine being a young girl ‘promised’ to an older man, asking for the police to do something and have them return you to the very abusers you seek to escape, all in the name of ‘culture’.

The stories I heard about the abuses suffered by the Aboriginal youth prior to their incarceration at Banksia Hill made me weep. It also gave me a very grim understanding of the very high suicide rate among Aboriginal youth. The hopelessness and desparation would be overwhelming.

F**k the Voice as nothing more than an exercise in the most repulsive virtue signalling. The only thing that gives me hope is that I have yet to encounter anyone intending to vote ‘yes’.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2023 7:32 pm

The media also don’t care about the raped aboriginal girls in NT and remote settlements. To make a fuss would reveal the real aboriginal culture and not the one they are pushing onto the nation.

As long as anyone is allowed to get away with preaching this malarkey……

Professor Mick Dodson told the National Press Club in June 2003:

importantly, I want to make the point that violence is not and never was part of Aboriginal tradition … Most of the violence, if not all, that Aboriginal communities are experiencing today are [sic] not part of Aboriginal tradition or culture.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 7:35 pm

Real Dealsays:

June 16, 2023 at 6:27 pm

Not a bad effort, Sancho. I wouldn’t necessarily link it to the render to Caesar verse, but I think you’re on the money regarding the moneychangers. You get a 4 Tituses out of 5 for that one.

Four!
Jeez.
Hard marking.
It wuz perfick.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 7:39 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 16, 2023 at 6:55 pm
Thorpey was crying yesterday talking about it.

Suuuuuure she was, no acting at all involved.

So traumatised that she forgot the names of all her other molesters (particularly the Labor and Greens ones) and all the witnesses.

Wasn’t she also complaining about waaaacissssm from the Greens while she was a member a while back?

Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2023 7:40 pm

The woman asking the “question” is totally obnoxious, more interested in giving a presentation herself than listening to any response.

Global Warming: The Greatest Fraud – Dan Pena

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 16, 2023 7:42 pm

feelthebernsays:
June 16, 2023 at 7:27 pm
Anyone else get an email from AGL today regarding the price hikes?
I’m sure that had nothing to do with AGL being the best performing stock in the ASX300 today.

Got mine from Red Energy yesterday.

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 7:43 pm

Most of the violence, if not all, that Aboriginal communities are experiencing today are [sic] not part of Aboriginal tradition or culture.

Some context…Mick Dodson has never lived in traditional aboriginal culture.

His notion of the noble savage is an invention of the Western culture in which he was brought up.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 7:44 pm

Googlery KC, MD, PhD.
Also biblical scholar.

Muddy
Muddy
June 16, 2023 7:45 pm

Tom says:
June 16, 2023 at 7:09 pm

Pauline Hanson’s Please Explain. Brilliant as usual.

[Monty Burns voice]: ‘Exxxxxxcellent.’

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2023 7:46 pm

The Bible…gnosis.

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2023 7:51 pm

Mmm…has Bible scholar and theologian extraordinaire monty embarrassed himself?

Otherwise occupied atm, so I’ll check upthread tomorrow.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 7:58 pm

thefrollickingmolesays:

June 16, 2023 at 7:00 pm

At the time she was past 50 and blokes in their early twenties were routinely hitting her up for a root.

Asking politely for a root is not rape.

Do try to keep up.
It’s a rape spectrum.
Everything from a barely audible “Phwooaar!”, through a grab on the arse, or a feel down the blouse right up to a forced rogering with a baseball bat.
It’s all on the assault spectrum.

bespoke
bespoke
June 16, 2023 7:58 pm
Dot
Dot
June 16, 2023 8:00 pm

If Jesus was critiquing capitalism:

Did he chastise Jewish geeks at home playing Fantasy Dice at Calvary?

Did he chastise his father for not being a carpenter in service of the Sanhedrin or Roman Empire?

Did he chastise Pontius Pilate for being rich (he was a Roman prefect after all)?

Why did he tell the parable of the two talents and otherwise perform the wedding miracle at Cana?

Why would reward people who weren’t prudent but also compare self improvement to successful and judicious business risk taking?

“Christian socialism” isn’t even an undergraduate idea. It is bogus.

Zipster
June 16, 2023 8:02 pm

Heart deaths in Australia
Dr. John Campbell

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2023 8:03 pm

This Jesus chap is pretty preachy.
If he’s not careful, he’ll end up on the central coast attention seeking via his notice board.

Dot
Dot
June 16, 2023 8:03 pm

Do try to keep up.
It’s a rape spectrum.

It is very offensive and civilisation threateningly stupid to conflate leering with rape.

… but that’s current year for ya!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 8:06 pm

Rogersays:

June 16, 2023 at 7:51 pm

Mmm…has Bible scholar and theologian extraordinaire monty embarrassed himself?

Otherwise occupied atm, so I’ll check upthread tomorrow.

I for one will be regarding Roger’s take as the final word here on matters Biblical.

Dot
Dot
June 16, 2023 8:07 pm

I will vote NO.

I have always maintained all references to race ought to be struck out of our Commonwealth constitution.

However the Voice is nothing compared to those WA land law changes. They are insidious and ought to be repealed immediately.

Mark McGowan is one of the most spiteful and destructive politicians we have ever had.

areff
areff
June 16, 2023 8:10 pm

re those temple money changers: as I understand it, the priests would accept only one specific coin, so if you rolled in with a pocket full of cash acceptable every where else, you had to convert it and do so at the priests’ exchange rate.

You could still donate in vulgar coinage — Jesus in one the Gospels, hails a woman who could chip in only farthings — but buying a dove or wotnot required the specific coinage (whose name I can’t recall).

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 16, 2023 8:14 pm

Alex Stein on the Stew Peters Show:

The woke sports media is claiming that Alex Stein’s video featuring WNBA basketball player Brittney Griner was a hate crime.
The Blaze TV’s Alex Stein is here to talk about the media’s meltdown to his Brittney Griner confrontation.
In the spirit of a good conspiracy theory, was Alex Stein paid by the WNBA to create a false controversy so they can stop flying commercial airlines?
Some people believe that Brittney Griner is really a man.
Another conspiracy theory is that Joan Rivers was killed for outing Barack Obama as a homosexual and Michelle Obama as a biological man.
The powers that be are conditioning the American people to accept the transgender lifestyle.
Brittney Griner was prisoner swapped for the Russian merchant of death Viktor Bout.
American elites don’t care about America.
They only care about the New World Order.
The Merchant of Death being released could very well help American weapon manufacturers because they benefit from having their weapons sold on the black market.
It is not a coincidence that as soon as we finally withdrew from Afghanistan that the military industrial complex started WW3 with Russia in Ukraine.
The Left in America frequently calls the Right “Nazis” and yet they hypocritically support literal Nazis in the Ukraine war.

Alex Stein Dunks On Brittney Griner: The WNBA Is A WELFARE Project Of The NBA That Nobody Watches

miltonf
miltonf
June 16, 2023 8:14 pm

Mark McGowan is one of the most spiteful and destructive politicians we have ever had.

yes and the competition is strong

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2023 8:15 pm

I will vote NO.

Would you say that if Lidia was within punching reach ?
Seriously, she scares me.
Mad as a hatter.

Morsie
Morsie
June 16, 2023 8:17 pm

So our attack is 4 right arm seamers and Lyon.Are we going to try and bore the Poms to defeat?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2023 8:19 pm

Mark McGowan is one of the most spiteful and destructive politicians we have ever had.

Mark McGowan is one of the new breed of Labor politicians as typified by Bob Hawke, Paul Keating, Julia Gilliard, Anthony Albanese and Linda Burney. “We live in waterfront mansions, have investment properties and share portfolios, for the good of the working class. Anybody else who has such trappings is from “the big end of town” and is to be condemned for such.”

Oh, sorry, I left Tanya Plibersek off the list.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2023 8:22 pm

You could still donate in vulgar coinage — Jesus in one the Gospels, hails a woman who could chip in only farthings — but buying a dove or wotnot required the specific coinage (whose name I can’t recall).

Bitcoin?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 16, 2023 8:23 pm

Dot.

Not content with banning most fishing in the most populated sections of the state for 6 months a year, sending 70+ out of 120 or so charter companies broke overnight by not allocating any catch tags and “encouraging” the fishing industry to shrink through “ voluntary ( so far) licence buybacks” they also want to declare pretty well from Albany to the state border a new marine park.

A fisherman one did the bad touch on sneakers.

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