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Open Thread – Weekend 17 June 2023
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“Stay here with the donkey while I try to make sense of existence on this planet!” “err, I may be…
Yes I touched on that in one reply to DrB. God said to Abraham that his seed would be made…
Cats – I know how you all love some wonderful music. The radio shows I’d love to continue – was…
Bruce, you talked about Genesis 22 up thread, about the carrying of the fire to the sacrifice site on Mt…
Someone remind the hypocrite of his role in restricting the right of farmers to manage their land.
Vickisays:
June 19, 2023 at 9:50 am
BTW I reckon those exceptional movies “The Hurt Locker” and “American Sniper” & others – which portray the reality of the duplicitous population in the combat areas – have probably made the general population wary of believing any of the rubbish the Woke brigade dishes up.
As Allied soldiers found out while fighting the Japanese, it is very risky trying to accept the surrender of soldiers who come from a culture that (at that time) preferred death to surrender, and all the better if they could take some of their enemies with them.
Lesson: Let the sh1tholes sort out their own problems, and don’t accept “refugees” from those sh1tholes.
Haha!
It doesn’t matter if you think let alone know it is de jure illegal. It is de facto the only one we’ve ever had as the Commonwealth of Australia and the one that prescribes her very Senatorship.
The stream cannot rise above the source, champ.
Black Ball says: June 19, 2023 at 10:31 am
Hey, man, if I wanted to be told what my opinion should be before I’m told the story the opinion is about, I’d turn on the nightly news.
It’s just co-incidence that a technical change from gas heating to electric for the purpose of switching the ultimate energy source from fossil to ambient energy will also have the side-effect of making more people more dependent on electricity which they cannot store in significant quantity residentially.
Perhaps the Grattan Institute do hate your guts but this particular example does not make a convincing supporting argument for it. I don’t cook with gas so waiting for pans to heat up is something I’m used to. Perhaps that switch would be a gut-full for people who cook with gas.
These turbochargers sound great! Maybe we should use more of those?
Fossil fuel terminology in a renewables pitch. The irony, it burns stoichiometrically.
Guccidigenes, love it and I bet Marcia Langton would too, no Best & Less for her.
I was under the impression that the federal government has sovereignty over territories which means that Albo can do more than call out the ACT government has done, he can stop it and reverse it.
Hang on.
Let me get my copy of the glovebox and check.
Bed proud, the Greens. You selected this raving maniac!
Even Chemist Warehouses are on the whole individually owned.There is still a maximum of 5 pharmacies you can have an interest in, although you can fiddle with this a little.
The brand connection is established by a franchise agreement or similar.As well the chains generally use an operating company which holds the lease, employs non pharmacy staff and charges it back to the pharmacist.Then there are of course supply agreements.
The main problem in the past has been a shortage of pharmacists.
Did some work for a small rural chain.They offered young pharmacists the opportunity to basically become instant millionaires but it generally wasn’t enough to entice them into the wilds of rural Victoria.
No. But if it made Elon burp it would be disgusting.
Ozempic users are reporting this disgusting side effect: ‘Next level’ (NYP via DT, 17 Jun)
The linked stories about Ozempic face and Ozempic fingers were horrifyingly fascinating too.
Assimilation could have spared the indigenous all the chaos and pain that too many are locked into now. Assimilation could have enabled all to be productive and happier citizens whose children have a future. The voice will just solidify their current woes, not dispel them.
Assimilation was the official policy until that pair of fools Whitlam and Coombes arrived on the scene.
No-one is blaker than Lidia.
Far out, this bloke is another Big-Pharma shill and lunatic. Sad to think people would take his advice and act on it … many gullible fools would have.
Big Pharma’s Infomercial Star Peter Hotez Is a Total Idiot
In some ways I prefer the of screeching of Lidia to the sanctimony of Julian Burnside, who she beat in the Greens pre-selection.
Hmm yes Russia decided to blow up the dam by stuffing a Lada so chock full of explosives that they had to cut the roof off of it, thus making the explosives clearly (and conveniently) visible by a Ukrainian drone that just so happened to flying by and was able to take a lucky snap of it.
Super plausible.
I’m thinking the strata fees probably turned it into a rounding error. As a tenant I got some of the lowest electricity bills I had ever seen while in that place. Actual consumption of electricity and water was really low.
Assimilation could have enabled all to be productive and happier citizens whose children have a future. The voice will just solidify their current woes, not dispel them.
Thank you Gough and Nugget for the myth of the noble savage.
Actually this is typical – the so-called leaders at the top coming up with this sort of thing while allowing untold billions to be wasted on platform failure or non-acquisition, and morale to crash through the floor. I feel an article coming on…
Look forward to it, Top Ender!
Does seem to be a bit of guerrilla pushback to far-lefty Sadiq Khan’s no car farts zones (oops, they’re ULEZes not NCFZs). I suppose if you encourage lawlessness with BLM stuff and etc then you shouldn’t be surprised if they disrupt your silly green laws.
Labour admits private panic over plot to use ‘Boris by-election’ to scupper Khan and ULEZ (16 Jun)
I don’t think Labour needs to worry really, since the infighting between the wet elite Tories and the fed-up base is reaching nuclear levels. But the idea of using hated ULEZes as an election pitch is pretty good.
What amazing background:
Life often produces characters that out-do fiction.
Images taken from above the Kakhovka Dam and shared with the AP appear to show an explosive-laden car atop the structure.
That does seem a little less than entirely truthy.
Pocock is basically Brian Harradine plus rugby. That’s the Australian Senate at work.
Senate passes voice referendum bill
The bill has passed the Senate 52-19, with Labor senators and members of the public in the galleries standing to applaud the outcome.
Lidia Thorpe called out “happy assimilation day, nail in the coffin, we’re not going to stop fighting” as the result was read out by Senate president Sue Lines.
Life often produces characters that out-do fiction.
The flashman books thrive on that sort of person.
Theres one I remember from India where he wore a leather collar because he had been wounded and live the rest of his life with the hole.
I once knew a German fellow with a Scottish surname.
Iirc, an ancestor had been a mercenary in the Thirty Years War and never went back home.
“The bill has passed the Senate 52-19”
So, that vote means quite a few so called Liberals voted in favour of a race based bill.
Every Liberal who voted for this travesty should be named.
Every Liberal who voted for this travesty should be shamed.
Every Liberal who voted for this travesty should be deselected.
Donations to the YES industry are tax deductible.
Donations to any NO entity are not.
Sleazy using the power of government departments to promote his ideology.
The City of Yarra gave me my first (and only) motorbike parking fine a few days after arriving in Melbournibad. Several months of correspondence brought me up to speed – at a cost. Bastards.
Attending a meeting this week where farmers who’ve had wind turbines put on their properties list their regrets.
– No payments for turbines because profitability clauses were built into contracts.
– Extra land lost to agriculture as gravel pads and access lanes associated with the building process are not removed.
– The entity engaged in the initial agreement no longer owns the project.
– agreements signed containing trigger clauses that allowed companies to undertake additional activities and assume other rights on the easement that land owner was not aware of at signing.
Albo and Bonehead are sanctioning the exploitation of Australian landholders by multi-nationals.
My cousin has got more black blood in her than chlamidia by miles and she is whiter than most and a ranga. Scottish genes are pretty strong.
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Here’s a Candidate for Terrifyingly Unhinged Leftist of the Week
Daytime Sky News presenters ejaculating over the 52/19 result.
Have to wait until the evening to get some balance.
Presenters at their ABC will be moistening day and night.
I use the term “landholders” to be consistent with all AEMO and government documentation.
The “owners” are traditional. They’ve already changed the definition of your property title for official purposes.
You will be listed in future as a “property holder” not a home owner.
Regarding the travails of overseas expeditions with rudimentary navigation aids.
A few years ago I went to buy a Tom-Tom or somesuch before departure. Helpful chap in the store told me to just download Sygic to my compuda.
Day before departure so I hurriedly did so, downloading the vanilla version without paying a lot of attention.
Set it up for the long drive from Than Thebathtian (Donothtia) to Barthelona.
All going fine on the cross country bit.
Arrived in Barthelona late afternoon on a public holiday and it was bedlam. The moving map seemed to be lagging about 15-20 seconds behind and I kept missing turns.
Suddenly, the mute Sygic speaks:-
“If you’d bought Sygic Premium with voice commands you’d be there by now … Do you wish to upgrade?”
I gave the screen a very quick percussion resistance test and told Mr Sygic “No thank you” (or words to that effect.
Navaids have moved on, thank Christ.
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RFK Jr: Trump was so popular bc he was the one guy talking to the middle class who are getting wiped out
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1670555101897818115
You can observe a lot by just watching.
– Yogi Berra
The Referendum procedure bill? It has all the significance of the Dog Act. No doubt there were some fiddles around “information” advertising.
Thank you Gough and Nugget for the myth of the noble savage.
I had no idea that Anthropolgy itself has been under attack from the cultural Woke within the profession who have tried to overturn the basic principles of Anthropology in pursuit of this obsession with “the noble savage”.
Have just read the Chapter entitled “The Dangerous Life of an Anthropologist” (by Matthew Blackwell) in the recently published “Panics and Persecutions.” It describes the vicious attacks by other anthropologists on Napoleon Chagnon, a distinguished ethnographer who documented the way of life of the very primitive Yanomamo people in Venezuela. His opponents claimed that he demeaned the people by portraying their culture as he did.
It is noticeable that this same resistance towards documenting Aboriginal societies at the time of first contact is seen today for similar reasons.
Where else would she be paid at all let alone so handsomely to be rude and obnoxious?
True.
Although I would have loved to have hooked an internal in-line HWS up to it if I could.
I think the mass of lots of apartments clustered together helps with heating.
As for water, we didn’t use the place for months during lockdans. Water consumption 0.0000000 Giggle-Eaters.
Bill still in the $hundreds because service connection, parks and waterways levy, yada, yada.
I rather think that is a date 9 months prior?
They should be but they won’t be, the best we can do is name them and shame them.
This should be pointed out to every person paying off an enormous home loan. They are making payments for something they will not own if they vote YES.
Barking Toadsays:
June 19, 2023 at 11:35 am
Donations to the YES industry are tax deductible.
Donations to any NO entity are not.
Sleazy using the power of government departments to promote his ideology.
Time for the ‘NO’ Mob to apply for a Private Ruling from the ATO. If still a ‘no’ then take this to Court. There has to be some legal expertise within the ‘NO’ Mob. Time to get their legal people’s a*se into gear IMHO.
Maybe the Calvary Hospital redux will be the redemption of John Howard Skywalker.
Well, there would be two distinct categories:-
.1 Avid Da Voice supporters;
2. Opponents who hold the view that we should send it to a referendum.
I can see the point of the second group. If it goes to a vote and fails, they can at least point to that and say “You had your vote. STFU.”
They won’t STFU of course, but it will deflate the cause for a while.
This should be pointed out to every person paying off an enormous home loan. They are making payments for something they will not own if they vote YES.
Good point.
“the best we can do is name them and shame them.”
The best we can do is NOT vote for them.
This is a constitutional matter and must be taken to the High Court. In the meantime the referendum can’t go ahead.
Service charges are just taxation, although corporatisation doesn’t help with cashflow. We did our best to ensure to ensure our fees came out before anything went back to government. It hasn’t always been iron ore and caviar in the West.
and so what?
Its the broken window fallacy. If pharmacists are now clipping the ticket for those prescriptions, then let it be so.
That option is available to voters in their states, the rest of us still need to resort to naming and shaming.
Tomsays:
June 19, 2023 at 4:05 am
Brett Lethbridge.
My only side effect is reflux if I sleep on my left side. Also a bit of nausea every so often, not sure what the trigger is
Using daylight saving in WA as an example, we should get 20+ years between referendums. Howard, Gillard and any politician with half a brain was very content to kick this can down the road.
I once knew a German fellow with a Scottish surname.
Jacques Etienne Joseph Alexandre MacDonald .. Napoleonic marshal ……
His father followed “bonny” Prince Charlie into exile after Culloden (1746) .. he was also related to Flora McDonald who accompanied the Prince to France ….. He earned his marshal’s baton after his generalship in the battle of Wagram (1809) .. He lost 13 000 killed at Lutzen (1813) after crossing the Katzbach River and putting his troops in an indefensible position .. mired in mud and their ammunition wet thru it turned into a shambolic defeat .. He redeemed himself with the successful defence of Leipzig (1814) and was with Napoleon until the abdication .. He was ill when Napoleon returned from Elba and took no part in the “100 Days” culminating at Waterloo ……
MacDonald never fought in any of the campaigns against the British …..
This is fine and normal.
Not alluded to on any FTA channel in oz.
Can you imaging if a repub said such a weird, out of place thing.
Biden wraps up his remarks in Connecticut: “Alright, God save the queen, man” pic.twitter.com/NJShsIA1eg
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) June 16, 2023
Biden wraps up his remarks in Massachusetts: “Martin, it’s all psychological. You yell barracuda, everybody says, “Huh? What?” You yell shark, we’ve got a panic on our hands on the Fourth of July. ”
Biden wraps up his remarks in Springfield, Oregon: “Now just a darn minute. This town is a part of who you are! This is a Springfield Isotopes cap. When you wear it, you’re wearing Springfield. When you eat a fish from our river, you’re eating Springfield. When you make lemonade from our trees, you’re drinking Springfield.”
Erm…except it’s not the case.
Native title cannot be claimed over freehold land unless the freehold title was invalidly granted.
Biden wraps up his remarks in Arlen, Texas: “Hands off girly, I didn’t fight off a bunker full of horny privates to let you cop a feel”.
Karl Marx’s wife, Jenny von Westphalen, herself a noble, had aristocratic Scottish ancestry.
Dotsays:
June 19, 2023 at 12:33 pm
I hadnt seen that one.
Hes only an unguarded moment away from the Simpsons monologue isnt he?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yujF8AumiQo
HEY FUNBOYS, GET A ROOM…
This one is for Baron von Herzenberger and his slick Mercedes SL…
This reminds me. I must get to Stuttgart to see Kraftwerk.
Thinking about the Higgins/Lehrman shit show I am coming around to the conclusion that a French style system whereby the police, prosecutor and judge investigate before charges are laid might well be preferable to our traditional system.
Or am I just indulging in wishful thinking and does it have the same sort of problems?
“Bill has passed the Senate 52-19. ” I’ll go with that on pick-the-score, next All Blacks-Wallabies test.
A mere technicality that the voice will recommend be overridden and what the voice recommends will not be denied.
Let’s not get carried away here.
Napoleon Bonaparte, strictly speaking, was Italian.
Dad was Carlo Buonaparte, minor Italian nobility, slight name change when France annexed Corsica for non payment of war funding debts.
Lots of Irish surnames in Spain too, not to mention the Duke Of Alba is a Fitz-James.
Vickisays:
June 19, 2023 at 11:51 am
Thank you Gough and Nugget for the myth of the noble savage.
I had no idea that Anthropolgy itself has been under attack from the cultural Woke within the profession who have tried to overturn the basic principles of Anthropology in pursuit of this obsession with “the noble savage”.
Have just read the Chapter entitled “The Dangerous Life of an Anthropologist” (by Matthew Blackwell) in the recently published “Panics and Persecutions.” It describes the vicious attacks by other anthropologists on Napoleon Chagnon, a distinguished ethnographer who documented the way of life of the very primitive Yanomamo people in Venezuela. His opponents claimed that he demeaned the people by portraying their culture as he did.
It is noticeable that this same resistance towards documenting Aboriginal societies at the time of first contact is seen today for similar reasons.
What does that render her, where she is quite happy to accept the filthy lucre of the invader?
“Donations to any NO entity are not.”
As far as I know, my donations to Jacinta are tax deductible.
I still don’t understand why the InVoice needs to provide advice to the Governor General?
On the appointment of Prime Ministers/Ministers or war…???
Jesus, if this is really how the “offensive” is going then its been a debacle.
Ukraine has captured the village of Piatykhatky on the western edge of the Zaporizhzhia front, according to a Russia-appointed official and sources, the first village recaptured by Kyiv’s forces in nearly a week.
In a posting on Telegram on Sunday morning, Vladimir Rogov, a Russia-installed official for the region, said Ukrainian forces had taken the village under their “operational control” after what he described as fierce fighting.
The Russian military blogger War Gonzo also reported that Piatykhatky had been abandoned. War Gonzo and Rogov both said Russian forces were trying to counterattack with artillery in the hope that Ukrainian forces had become overextended.
…
If Piatykhatky’s capture is confirmed, it would demonstrate Ukraine’s continuing incremental momentum in its counteroffensive.
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Ukraine’s modest gains in the past two weeks still leave its forces several miles from Russia’s main network of defensive lines, fortified trenches dug – in some cases with forced labour. It also remains far from clear Kyiv can achieve the kind of breakthrough that would force panic in the Kremlin.
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Ukraine’s series of attacks are generally considered to be probing attacks, designed to reveal weaknesses in the Russian positions. The belief is that at some point, a main thrust, which is likely to involve two or more brigades and make greater use of western supplied armour such as British Challenger 2 tanks, will follow.
All that looks like some big huffs of copium.
Meanwhile thousands of conscripts will be slaughtered…
Let’s also not forgot that the GG has to sign off on any bills that provide appropriation and all bills that need Royal Assent…
The bittered Sav opines…
As the journalist Niki Savva wrote: “While it is not true to say that every Australian who votes no in the voice referendum is a racist, you can bet your bottom dollar that every racist will vote no.”
Because the current 90 million dollars a day to Abo issues needs to be pushed to infinity!!!
The Voice passes the senate 52-19.
Unrepresentative swill live up to their well deserved reputation again.
Which acid ? … asking for a friend…
Didn’t Lidia Thorpe swear allegiance to the Monarchy to sit in the Senate? Is the penalty for swearing a false oath, still beheading?
No mention of making private hospitals close, nation wide, to keep their beds available during ‘COVID”? … I for one had lists cancelled in Calvary Private in Adelaide on exactly this basis when *neither* the public nor the private hospitals were full of coof patients.
How do you like that? Want your hip replacement done in private after you paid your insurance all those years – tough, your (empty) bed is reserved for the coof.
Quite, and best to remember that prisoners only become prisoners once you *accept* their surrender – not when they *offer* it.
“…you can bet your bottom dollar that every racist will vote no.”
Why do liberals imagine that racism is only ever directed from white to black?
They should get out of their gated compounds more often.
Perhaps we should hold the government to the same standard?
Exhibit #36 on the media’s absolute contempt for their readers.
Actually, I can bet racists will vote both YES and NO with great enthusiasm. Few will not vote at all, the informal vote will be a protest vote who think there is not even a point in voting NO, a smaller number will be genuinely concerned indigenous who think it is not a good idea, misrepresents the Uluru process or the Uluru process was a bum deal anyway. Thorpe says so far she’ll vote NO (she thinks the Senate, of which she is a member, is illegal….) but I highly doubt it.
Niki Savva is a 9-carat lightweight if she thinks the most rabid proponents of Aboriginal separatism-by-Federal-handouts are not some of the worst racists. She’s not very cerebral and you’d get more out of a journeyman tradesman or university graduate APS.
I could be convinced to vote, as a Parliamentarian, and as an ordinary citizen elector FOR the Voice with a YES; IF –
It was time limited to 20 years and if the “gap” wasn’t closed, it would be automatically repealed and barred from any future referendums permanently.
Their ABC.
How do we tackle the cost of living squeeze for mortgaged middle income families with increasing interest rates?
– increase Medicare levy
– super profits tax
– price caps
I had to turn it off at that point.
Tony Montana levels of copium. Their ‘gradual gains’ are simply bringing them deeper and deeper into the kill zone.
And the good Prof vaxnazi is running a mile from RKKJs offer to debate him on Joe Rogan for a purse of 1.5m USD to go to his nominated charity – on the one hand, Hotez decries the damage done by the ‘misinformation spreader’ RFKJ, on the other, refuses to set the record straight on one of the worlds biggest stages. … baffling really.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/vaccine-promoter-peter-hotez-cowers-debating-robert-kennedy/
Zatara at 9.07
Thankyou, most entertaining.
Two things I took away from that –
-Every fake issue she raised is used by the left here – every one. I remember when the Australian left hated most everything about U S culture and mores.
-If relations with China are on the precipice and a general call up is underway – and it includes a very wide age range and both sexes as it will have to – how many utterly useless individuals like that will be appearing before draft boards?
We are going to need many blocking battalions if things get desperate, I fear.
We are going to need many blocking battalions if things get desperate, I fear.
You do realize the blocking battalions arent allowed to start shooting the troops they are blocking until AFTER they break and run?
I’m currently reading ‘wind turbine syndrome’.
https://www.amazon.com.au/Wind-Turbine-Syndrome-Natural-Experiment/dp/0984182705
Take home message: infrasound given off by turbines can and does cause illness, particularly affecting those already prone to motion sickness or migraines, and at frequencies that are inaudible to the sufferers.
The minimum safe distance appears to be about a mile, possibly double that in mountains, or for those particularly prone, as above.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-19/ukraine-kakhovka-dam-russia-drone-footage/102494826
In the Middle East, they trained us to look for VBIEDs (car bombs) by looking for signs of overloading – eg the car is sitting very low on its springs due to the weight of explosives within.
The Ukes ‘aha – this is how the Ruskies didit’ drone photo shows a car riding at normal height – the tops of the tyres are visible, not pushed up into the wheel arches.
Its not a bad idea Dot.
Why not put a sunset clause into the Voice?
This bill that was passed today, that’s just to have the referendum proceed is it not?
Not immediately clear why the Russians bothered to cut an irregular hole in the car’s roof. By inspection it doesn’t appear to be packed to the roof line with anything.
More importantly, there’s no sign in the early images of the dam failure of the surface blast damage that a large mass charge would cause. Even a superdooper, special forces, Seymour Hersh, shaped charge would leave a big scorch mark and visible scraps of Lada.
Poor effort.
Just…vote…no.
Some dude on twitter with quite the following (I’ve lost the link now) has claimed 9 Fox employees have left in the last week to join Tucker…
The old offer and acceptance.
I need to reference the Carbolic Smokeball Company again.
Yes, BB.
Albanese must now set a date within two – six months.
That’s my understanding. It also gives Albanese an excuse to repeat the old nonsense about “the oldest culture in existence.”
Some are predicting a massive, worldwide cyber attack on over 250 cities within the next month:
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/06/us-china-cyber-espionage-campaign-cybersecurity-news/
Yes, WEF….
And a TOTP to youse all
This bill that was passed today, that’s just to have the referendum proceed is it not?
Yes.
It also confirms the Referendum question.
It also suggests that eleven Liberal Senators voted in favour and five did not vote.
Why not put a sunset clause into the Voice?
Why not just don’t have the inVoice?
Foxbody
One of my favorite lines in that video: “I have PTSD from generational trauma”.
Umm, then you don’t have PTSD Miss. Go look up Factitious Disorder – A condition that involves a pattern of intentionally fabricating illness or exaggerating the circumstances of a condition to elicit sympathy, nuturing, or attention from others.
You may add attempting to use the condition to excuse poor behavior to that list.
The question before Mr. 32% now is, “Do I go early with the polling looking so bad or do I wait while Australians suffer a winter of discontent with higher power bills & several interest rate rises on the cards?”
No pressure, Elbow; it’s just your political future.
😀
October 14th is firming as the preferred date.
All the NO case needs is Lidia Thorpe on repeat.
Courageous, Prime Minister.
Thank you. “Inter-generational trauma”, caused by white colonization, is the latest trendy complaint, in this part of the world.
Lidia Thorpe is the double bluff for the Yes case.
She argued in parliament that she’d be for The Voice if it gave real power to the indig.
Must be OK if Lidia thinks it’s weak then.
Test
Thinking about the Higgins/Lehrman shit show I am coming around to the conclusion that a French style system whereby the police, prosecutor and judge investigate before charges are laid might well be preferable to our traditional system.
Or am I just indulging in wishful thinking and does it have the same sort of problems?
Having watched the French plod effort .. Spiral .. which shows all 3 of the above working in unison I’m inclined to agree .. lotza legal issues in that show that are finalized well before the need for court-time ……
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0477507/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3_tt_7_nm_1_q_spiral
Which acid ? … asking for a friend…
https://ibb.co/fMbh2Rb
All 3 in unison vs the accused seems a bit too much one-sided. The prosecution should have to make the case to Judges for charges to be laid against an accused.
Also police and prosecutors are generally very well resourced. If they can’t make a case then with the available evidence provided then no charges should be laid.
Motion to revoke David Van’s $6000 role
Leaving aside allegations of gropage against Van, this is a revealing window into the operation of the Canbra grift.
Van the Invisible Man and accidental Senator was granted a $6,000 lurk by a Senate hostile to his politics.
Every child wins a prize.
Bloody oath.
If the Russians were going to blow the dam they would have done so after the UKR had crossed and established a beachhead. If the UKR were going to they would do so just before the offensive was about to begin to sow confusion about where it was likely to largely take place. What transpired is instructive.
You from Adelaide, bro?
Ask them if they have read anything about it. There are many studies, the concept was first mentioned in 1966 from studies of holocaust survivors. It happens to a minority of the population. No individual has the right to invoke it and it has no relationship to PTSD. There are biological and cultural components to the condition.
The bittered sav appears to have a massive blind spot, that none of the indigenous activist class is racist. Quite astounding when one considers that the whole edifice appears to name one race in the constitution at the exclusion of all others.
“WE” didn’t sign up to any of this rubbish, Roger.
Successive governments did so, without ever asking us if WE wanted them to.
On the subject of criminal investigations, the only change I would suggest would be to include a designated member of the DPP office to work alongside the investigating police, with both groups to sign of on the recommendation. That DPP member then to lead the prosecution.
All 3 in unison vs the accused seems a bit too much one-sided. The prosecution should have to make the case to Judges for charges to be laid against an accused.
The judge is investigative not court enrolled and oversees the plod & prosecution (their version of DPP)investigation/running of the case .. he/she sifts thru their evidence, on a regular basis and makes the final call on whether to charge or drop it ………. if it gets to court the judge/prosecution/defence are different folk ……..
TheirABC weekly meeting…
Producer: Geeze our ratings are really tanking, what should we do?
Team: Fire Probyn cos he’s not left enough and hire more leftists!
Well…. literally just received an email from CEO to all staff about how our organisation is supporting the Voice and to have “constructive discussions” as the vote draws nearer…
Yeah, “constructive” as in dont be a NO.
It’s worse than that. Juries – being typically comprised of brainwashed imbeciles like Monty – would think “well if all of these people agree the guy’s guilty, who am I to dissent?”
The best way is to change the rules on jury selection. Defendants should be able to argue to the judge that exculpatory evidence has been ignored. If the judge agrees, instead of declaring a mistrial (which they are too afraid to do), the judge rules that the prosecution gets no/minimal say in jury selection.
Anyone got a sub to Fauxfacts as I actually wouldn’t mind reading Jon Faine critique of theirALPBC…
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/a-boring-aunty-how-the-abc-is-alienating-its-audience-20230616-p5dh5z.html
Re. the Ukraine dam: While I have bugger-all expertise in this area, would it reasonable to assume that a good deal of the blast force would be directed upwards, thus wasting a degree of the destructive energy?
Leaving aside visibility, does this seem like a dodgy position for explosives if infrastructure damage was the aim? (I’m assuming that the allegation is that the explosives were not later removed and then positioned without the vehicle being involved).
I don’t often agree with ASPI (aka Military Industrial Complex) but this was an interesting read:
https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/smile-diplomacy-is-welcome-but-war-may-be-coming/
(I’m not getting much work done today as am wfh and its about five f-cking degrees in Perth right now )
Lysander, time for a bit of Your Rights At Work.
Down tools, cease production and get the butcher’s paper and crayons out for a four-day summit, brainstorm, kumbaya, yarning, group hug primal scream therapy session.
And after that, sometime next week, put an anonymous whistle-blower tip to HR about possible debbil debbil backsliders, and start the wildcat strike all over again.
Another thought on the ‘car bomb’: Does the shadow from the car look realistic? (It’s difficult to compare it with other shadows, given the photo we have access to). Can this be a ‘photoshopped’ image? (Pure speculation on my part, of course).
This is wild!
https://www.revolver.news/2023/06/ireland-is-rapidly-advancing-a-law-to-make-it-illegal-to-even-possess-hate-speech/
This means you cannot even document so-called “hate speech” or outrageous acts by the most absurd and off the wall gender identity activists.
Free speech is sacred.
What a hideous woman.
Let’s be honest – how many real racists are there? People who really think that people of a different skin colour or physiognomy are inherently inferior? There will be people who think the cultures that correlate with race produce people who are sub-optimal, but that is a cultural issue.
And since the left always pushes the sanctity of (non-white cultures) to the point that they even tell migrants coming here that they should not have to change their ways then it might be the left who are the true racists by their own definition!
Nikki is seeking to smear by association with a possible handful or true racists every person who has weighed the issues and determined that it is the wrong way to go.
You can see why she was a natural fit with Mick Trumble.
Indeed Wally, the email was accompanied by the passive aggressive threat that “you opinions have a direct impact on the organisation’s reputation.”
Anyway, since I identify as Indigenous I should be able to get away with my opinions on the InVoice. Not sure they’ll want to get HR in to sort out their racism. 😛
You’ve just got to be upbeat about it. “Yes, my opinions make us look good”.
Workplace bullying by HR is always unintentionally hilarious and unecessarily cruel.
It’s true. And supporting the voice makes them look like gullible nitwits
I personally think that McGowan and now Roger Crook have gazumped the voice vote here in WA due to the most ridiculous indigenous laws coming into effect on 1 July.
You be allowed to even fart in your general direction without getting indigenous approval (at $250 per hour ffs!!!).
‘Twould be a shame if the rumour that your voting choice for the inVoice was to be reported to your employer via the taxation system, was to become widespread.
FMD read this from the Daily Telegraph:
You are doing well to keep down today’s lunch after reading that drivel. Again I ask, why can’t she be removed from the Senate?
I remember when the epileptic bean-pole, Garrett, referred to ‘Hate speech’ in one of his interviews and thought “How the hell do you define that?”
It was a while ago – so long ago that the idea saying something deliberately unpleasant being a crime still seemed ridiculous.
Now of course it has become even more ridiculous where it means holding any opinion that a protected class does not like qualifies – while this protected class does precisely the same one to everyone they don’t like.
The appetite for tyranny is always whetted and never slaked.
Alan Jones writes a nice one
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.spectator.com.au%2F2023%2F06%2Falan-jones-albanese-in-a-mess%2F
The simple metaphor of the failure of the Albanese government, to reign in expenditure, is evidenced by the recent Budget which shows the Albanese government is hiring another 11,000 more public servants. It takes the number of bureaucrats in Canberra to a whopping 191,861.
And the Budget shows that these public servants will get a 10.5 per cent pay rise, the highest in ten years.
shatterzzz at 2:45 – under the common law a DPP properly fulfilling their duties to the court is more than adequate. As I expect Sofronoff will explain in due course.
Same old Aussies, always cheating
Same old pommies, always whingeing.
‘Green’ guilt, actually dear.
I feel absolutely no guilt. It is only the left that pushes the idea that we whitefellas have an original sin arising from our arrival in the Garden of Eden otherwise known as pre-settlement Australia.
Shatterzz another thing I like about the French system is the accused and the accuser have to face each other.
Lidia Thorpe.
She’d have never been able to send a telegram, back in the day.
Maybe, maybe not. Getting convicted for physical or verbal abuse, say outside some nightclub would render your position vacant, as would being caught with a bag full of a certain white substance. Neither of which would surprise me.
shatterzzz at 2:45 – under the common law a DPP properly fulfilling their duties to the court is more than adequate. As I expect Sofronoff will explain in due course.
Under the French system their judge (DPP) is in control from the start of the investigation rather than when the plod submits a brief .. he/she also has complete authority to issue search warrants/phone taps/interview, possible, witnesses ect ..
Similar to DPP but involved in every step of the investigation with override of the plod, if necessary, rather than just the court or no court end decision …….
And besides Lidia’s use of a double-negative, I’ll be glad to quote that she “don’t need no one’s voice” at the next half Senate election.
Not if there’s a double dissolution election.
At puberty, given to one of the old men, in marriage, as almost his slave. If she survived having children, when he tired of her, she would have been passed on to the young men, to teach them “the facts of life.”
Left behind to die, when the tribe moved on, and she couldn’t keep up.
**vote**!!
Think I’ll rather still have the separation of powers than the French (Roman) law system. Really a matter of choice. This leaves the courts with the final minimal decision making role. Bit of tension between the fuzz and the courts is generally a good thing.
The power of the pencil.
Dr Faustus says:
June 19, 2023 at 2:33 pm
Every child wins a prize.
Being appointed to assorted committees is a ‘time honoured’ way to increase your pay packet in Canbra. Even a non-descript backbencher can add several (or many) thousand dollars a year to their pay by hitching their trailer to the various opportunities. The base salary of a parliamentarian is $217,060 and a loading of between 3-16% is added for each committee you Chair. Then, of course, there are assorted loadings if you are the Whip, Deputy Whip, Acting Chair, Panel Member and so on.
All those are in addition to your salary if you are a government Minister, Leader of the Opposition, Prime Minister, President of the Senate, Speaker.
Not to mention superannuation (@15.4%), electoral allowances, away from home allowance, private plated cars (or allowance in lieu), free home internet service, travel allowance (with some limitations)……
Some of these items are of small value whilst others can be very valuable indeed.
Gotta hand it to Lydia .. 1/16th 251 and I’m guessing never lived in a”dreamtime” community but a complete expert on the “idyllic” Brucie inspired lifestyle ..
enjoyed, like the gucci gnome, all the benefits of a “white” upbringing but from the safety of her $210K + freebies pedestal now complaining how bad she feelz ……
I’d take her a bit more seriously if she practised what she preaches and goes live in a humpty in Wadeye until the Vote is dun ……!
Empty chamber as per usual. All the whores are probably at the bar billing up the taxpayer.
Malcolm Roberts:
Why the racist “Voice” will tear Australia apart
No Presumption Of Innocence under the French System.
The Accused has to prove his Innocence.
Tease.
People thought that about Lambie – and the Victorian wokeratii is quite as capable of gifting Thorpe to Australia.
Anyhoo, the chances of Uncle Luigi going for a DD over a blue with the Greens are slight to invisible.
I once had an idea that for every vote a winning party receives (i.e. a party that wins at least one seat), they should given like $2 for each vote they got (I know this already happens but bear with me).
So when a party wins a seat, all of that money goes into a pool that the party itself determines what members are worth. I know there’d be politics but it does annoy me how, in WA for example, you can have an inner city, Western burb seat that’s always going to be Liberal so the MP there doesn’t have to do anything, ever, to re-elected – it just happens. Seats also still vary widely in size and numbers despite best efforts to normalise this. This means some MPs work much harder than others and this should be (to use today’s term): recognised.
It would also provide the leadership team with another way to “demote” someone without losing their seat or Ministry. Yeah, it’s an idealistic idea that’d never happen but could just imagine the popcorn!!!
Let’s keep this simple:
The Guccidigenous desire to displace what they perceive as the present hierarchy, and take positions in that same hierarchy, where they will ‘colonise’ and exploit the lower classes, including the Best&Lessdigenous, as much, or perhaps more so, than those they replaced.
It’s a status grab.
That’s it.
They’ve walked past, and through the front window have seen the fruits of our labours, and decided “I’ll have some of that.” Skin colour and ancestry has nothing to do with it. They want something without having to work for it, and have chosen an appropriate tool to achieve the audacious theft.
On the pharmacy thing – I remember hearing someone from the Qld Pharmacy Guild on the wireless a few weeks ago. One of the concerns she raised was that Australia is a relatively small market in world terms. Even now there are genuine difficulties in just getting enough of some medications into the country. So if Mr A comes in and is supplied a 6-month allocation of a particular medication, Mr B might be up that proverbial creek when he comes in to get the same medication.
It’s not that the pharmacy just needs to order more in – there simply isn’t any more to be had. The Rep on the wireless stated that inability to supply is already a problem under the current setup so upping the amount that can be dispensed will only make the supply situation worse. Sometimes there are less effective medications a Dr can substitute but that’s not always the case. Hard cheese for Mr B.
You really do know fvck all about the French legal system, don’t you?
Lydia Thorpe is doing the “NO” vote a favour with her outlandish disrespect for a democratic body representing the Australian people.
Let her rave on with such malice. It is getting quite a lot of attention on TV reports. Excellent.
You really do know fvck all about the French legal system, don’t you?
It’s clear I know more than you, though.
I would take anything coming from the Pharmacy Guild of Australia with a large pinch of salt. Non prescription, of course.
Lydia Thorpe is doing the “NO” vote a favour with her outlandish disrespect for a democratic body representing the Australian people.
That’s completely wrong.
If you don’t know that Thorpey is championing the No Case, perhaps you shouldn’t be commenting on it.
An Interview with StRuth over at Quadrant
https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2023/06/the-struggles-of-an-interstate-truck-driver/
I suggested to Mr Hogg that perhaps rail could take some of the pressure off road transport. “Bloody trains,” he yelled, emitting a spray of Wild Turkey, “they’re worse than women drivers at blocking the roads.” Reinserting his false teeth, dislodged in his vehemence, he explained.
Groogs, I never doubted your credentials as a comparative legal scholar. Your record here needs no introduction.
[You are doing well to keep down today’s lunch after reading that drivel. Again I ask, why can’t she be removed from the Senate?]
Why are the Liberals so excited about the removal of Van, when Thorpe is by any measure a more horrible and divisive senator?
I really have no idea why Groogs haunts various Cat blogs accusing people of sexual harassments/abuse and their guilt. He’s never been once right before so I don’t know why he continues.
I think Einstein called that “insanity”
This isn’t about the cheese sausages again is it?
H B Bearsays:
June 19, 2023 at 4:16 pm
No cheese snaggers, but there is a greasy box involved as well as a besmirched sTan Grant
Let’s be honest – how many real racists are there? People who really think that people of a different skin colour or physiognomy are inherently inferior? There will be people who think the cultures that correlate with race produce people who are sub-optimal, but that is a cultural issue.
Mother Lode – that is the opinion of someone who can’t conceive of the dark places in some people’s hearts. It also does not account for truly stupid people. That is a wonderful place to be. But it does not account for those who are truly and despicably racist.
You may not have ever encountered one. I have. They are people, in my humble opinion, who have little joy in their life. It cripples their ability to see goodness and worth in others – whether of different colour, background to whatever.
However, I do agree that what a lot of people think is “racism”, is actually cultural assessment. I am as prone to “cultural assessment” as the next person.
Like the fact that the “Presumption of innocence” is enshrined in the French Constitution?
Ed Case, the French legal system maintains a presumption of innocence and the burden of proof falls on the prosecution.
Driving back from the city about midday heard Barnaby going full throttle on how government was exploiting farmers, rural communities and those with fixed or low incomes. He was really belting out how renewables and the relating infrastructure were wrecking rural towns, how the price of fuel was a result of the government’s stupid emissions targets etc. It was, I might say, a real ripper. I hope someone picks it up in the media and puts it on U Tube.
If you don’t know that Thorpey is championing the No Case, perhaps you shouldn’t be commenting on it.
Of course I realise that Thorpe is rejecting the whole process because it does not concede the Treaty, Reparations and Sovereignty as people like Michael Mansell have been demanding for decades.
So some of my nutter comrades are claiming there’s an incoming polar shift imminent… lol!!
I know is beyond the current state of j’ism that stains our newspaper pages and dribbles down or TVs today, but can no one really respond to this with “aaaaaand?”
What does being old grant it? Was the cause of its longevity a good thing or a less-than-good one?
He is such a gratuitously unnecessary man.
This gives a few examples of the big difference in French “Napoleonic law” and common law.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/white-collar-and-criminal-law/insight-french-criminal-procedures-surprising-features-of-a-french-trial
Criminal trials are run by judges. Before trial, the judges will have received and reviewed the entire investigative record. This is now the baseline record of the trial. This record may be full of evidence that a U.S. lawyer would immediately try to exclude, including documents such as witness interview reports that would be considered “hearsay.” But in France there are few “rules of evidence.” Criminal offenses may be proved by virtually any and all means.
A French trial is not an adversarial battle between opposing narratives, but more a judge-led inquiry that posits the question: does the record we have before us suffice to support conviction, or not?—as to which, of course, the prosecution and the defense may take different positions.
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The “right to silence” is limited. During a trial, the judges usually turn to the defendant and ask for the defendant’s response to the evidence in the record. A refusal to respond will lead to a strong inference of guilt. A defendant is not, however, put under oath.
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If the judges have found the evidence of guilt to be sufficient under the “innermost belief” standard they will convict, otherwise they acquit.
Plus.
http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/AIAdminLawF/2001/10.pdf
The basic differences between the two systems, apart from the language used in court, are: • Who is responsible for the collection, selection and presentation of the evidence – the parties or a judge? • In the Anglo-Australian system any evidence produced in court must be tested in that court. In the French system all the collection of evidence has been performed upstream. The day in court is just a rehearsal of what has happened before.AIAL FORUM No. 29 52 The result: 7.3% acquittals before the French Assize Court; 45% before the British-English Crown Court.
Which either means it works extremely well, of a lot op people are wrongly convicted…
There is however a separation between the judge assigned to gather the evidence of the case and the one who eventually hears it.
I really can’t get a grip on arsing your political career on the rears of Thorpe and Stoker.
It’s hardly going out in a blaze of glory. At least ol’ Joe was gripping Eva Longoria.
Heaven help us people!
Thorpe is the “it could be worse” decoy.
Mole
I’ve always thought of the French system that there is a presumption, but it’s highly conditional and it doesn’t mean what the Anglo system says.
Hilarious!!!
An elderly woman joined a flight from Melbourne to Brisbane to go spend some days with her loved ones. Unfortunately, the route of the trip was switched, and the plane was diverted to Sydney.
The passengers weren’t excited about the change in plans, and the crew onboard tried to appease them. The flight attendant explained why the delay was happening and told the passengers that they would give them 50 minutes to walk around and get some things before they re-board.
Instantly, everyone got off the plane, and it became empty except for an elderly woman who sat by the window side at the back. A man who was leaving the aircraft noticed her sitting quietly and realized she was blind after spotting her service dog lying at her feet.
He wanted to approach her but got interrupted by the pilot’s voice and then realized that she was a regular on the flight. The pilot came to the old woman and said to her:
“Kathy, we are in Sydney for almost an hour. Would you like to get off and stretch your legs?”
The woman smiled but refused. Instead, she told the pilot to take her dog Max and help him stretch his legs. The pilot agreed and grabbed the leash of the dog before heading for the plane’s door.
As he held the dog and walked off the plane with his dark shades on, people froze in their tracks before chaos broke out. They all began to clamor to change the airline as they thought the pilot was blind
JCsays:
June 19, 2023 at 4:42 pm
The second link claims there is a presumption, but its dependent on a EU court ruling.
Almost contradictory.
Rules of evidence are much looser and instead of “beyond reasonable doubt” it the magistrate (and sometimes jurors) “innermost belief of guilt” that decides it.
On one hand it probably makes for more thorough assessment of all evidence, on the other it seems it would be much easier to railroad someone.
I dont know enough to say if its better or worse, but it is very different
The article mentions it operating more like or coroners court.
Hi Vicki,
As I say, there are the real deal out there. And they are miserable – thinking there are people who will always be inferior to them may well give them the sense they are actually not so low because they can gal back on a schema where they are just as immutably in a higher caste.
But with the current narrative constantly alerting us to ‘White Supremacy’, which I cannot help but think Nikki was drawing upon, the actual numbers of white racists is much smaller.
Another issue for Savva is the non-Europeans who will vote against the voice. I wonder if she thinks of anyone other than Europeans as being racist.
It is perhaps analogous to the fact that the only societies being blamed for slavery are the ones who abolished it. The only people who are accused of racism are the ones who have denounced it.
And for the same reason. They managed to pry a new virtue from what had been the rule across cultures since time immemorial so only they can be accused of the corresponding vice.
Don’t forget a scowling Marcia Langdon promising not one more Welcome To Country if Australia votes No. That is pure gold.
Military law operates on the same premise – it’s up to the person hearing the charge to prove that an offense has been committed, and the accused committed that offense.
Yeah, that was real “Don’t throw me in the briar patch” stuff.
Anybody not have a “wtf?” moment at that?
She actually believes denying us welcome to country ceremonies will be more than we’re prepared to stomach?
Doesn’t she mix with normies, at all?
Unrepresentative swiller swilling.
We are so blessed.
Carrot AND stick.
Lidia’s stick, and Marcia’s carrot (so to speak).
I happen to know a coloured guy from Zimbabwe and another from South Africa, both migrants here. Neither of them support the Voice.