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Open Thread – Weekend 17 June 2023
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Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
June 19, 2023 at 4:06 pm
No Presumption Of Innocence under the French System.
The Accused has to prove his Innocence.
You really do know fvck all about the French legal system, don’t you?
That’s why I now refer to him as Turd Case (a skin suit/sausage case full of sh1t).
In case you missed it:
https://antonygreen.com.au/abs-population-statistics-confirm-wa-to-gain-a-new-house-seat-victoria-and-nsw-to-lose-seats/
She needed someone’s vote to get her spot. Those “someones” are now nobodies to this entitled horror of a human.
I’m in Darwin’s town of Shrewsbury for a few days. I would like to see some brutal Natural Selection arrive in Canberra. HOP style.
Burney isn’t helping at this point.
The fact that I visited a community last week where there were 30 people living in a two-bedroom unit is not acceptable. This is why the Voice is important. This is why it will make a practical difference on the ground.”
If $30 billion a year was not enough to fix the housing problem, how much will be?
Indigenous already get a marks boost plus all sorts of programs for tertiary entry. Take it or leave it you ungrateful racist imbecile.
As for the birth outcomes, take it it with your proud midwifery colleague who thinks it’s just peachy for indigenous women to give birth “on country” in a culturally appropriate way. You might also want to look at pregnant idiots deliberately going on benders to produce smaller babies with a side serve of FAS. No whitey is forcing them to do it.
Evil old race baiter.
Don’t forget a scowling Marcia Langdon promising not one more Welcome To Country if Australia votes No. That is pure gold.
I just hope the NO vote gets up so I don’t have to suffer this bullshit of welcome to my own country.
Poop. Take it up.
No blog littering please.
Burning down houses in inter – clan fighting doesn’t do much good!
If $30 billion a year was not enough to fix the housing problem, how much will be?
Which is now 39 billion for a year according to the latest numbers.
Mole at 1.43
Absolutely understood.
Hard to imagine such a thing – but widespread on the Eastern Front in WW11 and also in use in the Ukraine.
I worry how our nation could fight against heavy odds with much of our leadership and citizenship as they are.
Some ( hopefully v unlikely) possibilities would be beyond the ken of most Australians-
not only blocking battalions but internment camps, very strict rationing, a construction corps, release of some prisoners for military service …
Events in the Ukraine should remind us all what full scale war involves .
I sure hope we have the leadership and national cohesiveness to keep our independence – not wildly optimistic.
Thanks Marcia, you’re a real gem.
Marcia should be the poster bloke for the NO vote.
It is not OK that my life expectancy is eight years shorter than the deputy. It’s not OK.
Do you do drugs?
Are you a landwhale?
Do you smoke?
Are you likely to be bashed/killed by a significant other?
Do you have a chronic or lifelong illness or birth defect?
No- then your life expectancy should pretty well match the majority of people in Australias.
Grifting turds, covering themselves in the scabs of others to wail “poor little me”.
I studied “Management 1A” as a general undergraduate subject in my econ degree, but this is actually very interesting. It is kind of funny that this is glossed over and the cynical workers and older students thought Taylorism was a joke and anti-worker. I don’t think this was brought up in detail. It was straight to how dehumanising time and motion studies were and how important HRM is. ????!!
——
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_management#Scientific_Management_Principles
a) Each worker should be given the highest grade of work they are capable of.
(b) Each worker should be demanded the work that a first-grade worker can do and thrive.
(c) When each worker works at the pace of a first-grade worker, they should be paid 30% to 100% beyond the average of their class.[7]
While Taylor stated that sharing “the equitable division of the profits” is required in an organization, he believed that management could unite high wages with a low labor cost by application of the following principles:
(a) A large daily task: Each worker in the organization, should have a clearly defined task.
(b) Standard Conditions: Each worker should be given standard conditions and appliances that will enable him to perform his tasks.
(c) High pay for success: Each worker should be rewarded when he accomplishes their task.
(d) Loss in case of failure: When a worker fails, he should know that he would share the loss.
————-
It’s funny because Henry Ford gets all the credit in usual conversation because he actually applied the principles. Oh and for the engineer fetishists, Taylor was a mechanical engineer. He was also a very good self-taught economist in my opinion.
The worst places I have worked think that success is measured by screwing people over and watching them leave.
That sound you heard was Ed’s arse being handed to him. Well done
It might be a kind of threat. Perhaps they’re intending to replace the welcome ceremonies with something much less pleasant, possibly violent in nature. An intifada maybe.
Whoops. Should have bolded a 30% to 100% bump for “first-class workers” for job X.
Marcia in full flight.
https://imgflip.com/i/7ptr71
One more for Marcia, in honor of her proclaiming an Abbo intifada if the racist white dogs dont give her what she wants.
https://imgflip.com/i/7ptrkv
Pity the Age vets comments so strongly…
This works most of thee time. Australias problem isn’t the legal system but handing powers to the burocracy without accountability.
I used to think the US litigation culture a bit weird but boy would I love to have certain department heads in dock.
right up there with Epistemic Violence
Be very careful about such threats, Marcia – I reckon there are enough of the “old and the bold,” ” the ruthless and toothless,” living in this part of the world to form quite an effective settlers militia….
I received a format newsletter from John Pesutto and the Libs yesterday. I replied as per below but know I will not receive an answer.
Dear John.
I barely know where to start but I shall try. You have no ability to read what we out here in Victoria are going through. You just do not connect. I do not support Labor but am ashamed of the Liberal Party and what it has to offer under your leadership. Your treatment of Moira Deeming was appalling. Your inability to differentiate on the provision of energy. Your support of the Climate change dogma. You may as well be Labor. God help us Andrews is a lunatic spending bags of money, yet you don’t even go after him. I used to donate and volunteer my time to Libs and helped my local Federal member get in by foot slogging the area with brochures and volunteering at booths. I am dismayed, angry and hurt by your stupidity. Just resign and get out of the way.
Regards
xx
Bill P – 19/6 at 1.59pm
The Carbolic Smoke Ball Company case – a cracker
Not sure I would want to throw myself onto the US justice system. Agree re the creeping expansion of the Executive. Not sure anything much can be done about Parliament beyond regular changes of the UniParty.
I don’t know who said it but I’m in total agreement with the sentiment that “it is better to vote ‘no’ and be called a racist than vote ‘yes’ and actually be a racist”.
Swiss Army knives?
I suspect the feelings, and the atrocities, are quite mutual. They don’t much like each other.
On the other hand there have been some prisoner swaps, so they do have an incentive to behave not too badly towards each other’s captured guys.
Boambee John says:
June 19, 2023 at 5:03 pm
If $30 billion a year was not enough to fix the housing problem, how much will be?
I have often wondered why every person claiming Aboriginal ancestry isn’t living in a two storey house and driving a Mercedes.
Thirty billion dollars divided into, say, 550,ooo people is about $55,ooo each per year. Man, woman and child. Every year. Year after year. How is it that a proportion still live in abject poverty* – it just doesn’t seem possible.
* rhetorical question.
The Dutch king is expected to apologise for slavery and colonialism…
In breaking news, tourists are encouraged to boycott the Roman Colosseum, and the Egyptian pyramids because they used slaves in their construction.
Another – Im on a meme roll
https://imgflip.com/i/7ptu44
Zimlurog – I would not be at all surprised if there are shortages here. There’ve been numerous stories in the press in the last few weeks that US supplies of antibiotics and cancer drugs are running out. There seems to be trade war going on between US centric Big Pharma and the Indian generic manufacturers, at least that is what it looks like to me. US big pharma needs to have a serious clean up, given their arrogance and evil of late.
Without disturbing the ASIO work experience kiddies, yes.
Last one for now.
https://imgflip.com/i/7ptuat
I wish to apologise for enslaving all those who built the Colosseum and the pyramids.
It’s true I didn’t actually enslave anybody, but neither did the dutch king, and he’s getting some sort of brownie points for apologising, so why shouldn’t I?
Needed new drum for my brother printer.
Officeworks
$153.
Or buy the whole exact same printer wih a drum and a bonus ink cartridge.
$159.
I guess they sell a heap of replacement drums.
Best not go to Valletta in Malta either.
Built by Turkish slaves.
Mind you I’m all for morons boycotting all those places, more elbow room for the rest of us.
Nor me bear just a chance to sue them for negligence.
Thirty billion dollars divided into, say, 550,ooo people is about $55,ooo each per year. Man, woman and child. Every year. Year after year. How is it that a proportion still live in abject poverty* – it just doesn’t seem possible.
Not as simplistic as that Speedbox.
I will use the local Aboriginal health service as an example. The doctors that are employed certainly aren’t Aboriginal, the podiatrist, the dentist etc. The specialists are the ones being paid by the health service to provide their expertise.
This will be much the same in matters of law with lawyers fresh from school.
But again I only use my locale as an example.
I imagine things would be different with family running a service, with lax accounting for every dollar in and out.
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“non-Europeans who will vote against the voice.”
Don’t worry, they will be labelled as white-adjacent
Why does that sound like something out of South Africa, during the apartheid era?
Putin’s Comments on Nuclear Weapons
I have listened to so many Western commentators who all downplay Putin at every stage in this insane game. Putin is well aware that this is NOT a war between Russia and Ukraine, this is a war between the USA and NATO using Ukraine and Europe as its cannon fodder. The United States has been seized by a Neocon Coup. Blinken is a horrible guy and his #1 is Victoria Nuland whose family is not just biased against Russia, they have Ukrainian roots and are carrying out a conflict of interests.
The Western Press is just horrible. Either they are absolutely STUPID, or they are deliberately always claiming Russia is losing and they are weak and we can therefore smack them down like an annoying fly. The problem with this scenario is that would be precisely the scenario when Russia would use the big nukes – not the small tactical nuclear weapons. If their country is to be terminated, then why not push all the buttons?
NOWHERE in the Western Press will they ever report on the truth about anything. The press is leading us into World War III and there does not seem to be anyone in mainstream media willing to honestly report on the Neocons. All we hear is PUTIN – PUTIN – PUTIN. Funny, they did the same with SADDAM – SADDAM – SADDAM, ASSAD – ASSAD – ASSAD, and of course, they did the same domestically – TRUMP – TRUMP – TRUMP.
They refuse to report that this war would be over in 24 hours if Ukraine honored the Minsk Agreement and simply let the Donbas have a democratic vote since they are ethnic Russians that the Ukrainians hate anyway. Zelensky loves to pretend he is fighting for their freedom and for democracy. That is an outright lie. Russia has not sought to conquer all of Ukraine. Merkel admitted that the West deliberately negotiated the Minsk Agreement only to buy time for Ukraine to build this army to wage war against Russia. Why should Russia or China now negotiate with the United States knowing they do not honor their agreements? The West wanted this war. They need it to justify defaulting on all sovereign debt and resort to digital currency with Bretton Woods II. Even CNN reported that the West started the Ukrainian Civil War before they were told to bury that news.
The Ukrainian people wanted peace and that is why they voted for a comedian because he was not a politician and he promised peace – not war. Then on February 23rd, 2022 to make sure Putin would invade, he publicly announced that Ukraine would pursue nuclear weapons. Putin’s Speech to the Russian people on February 24, 2022 points out the endless expansion of NATO and how the West abandoned the Minsk Agreement which was the “path of a peaceful conflict settlement.” He also mentions the quest to arm itself with nuclear weapons and says Russia will not let that happen.
The Western Press is so biased, they refuse to seek peace and in the process, all they are doing is cheering on World War III. Now when Putin is sending tactical nukes to Belarus which also gave up its nukes when it became independent like Ukraine, is in direct response to this thirst for war that NATO is pushing for. Putin now understands that the objective is the total destruction of Russia. They ignore these threats as if they are not nonsense, but he is speaking to the Neocons and NATO. His problem is, they did not want peace and they think they can capture Russia and there will never be a nuclear war. Nobody even entertains the question: What if we are wrong?”
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/russia/putins-comments-on-nuclear-weapons/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS
Dr. John Campbell
Myocarditis data from Korea
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Hi Simon!
(Sorry about the nudity last night. I didn’t know the camera was on. And at that angle. How embarrassing!).
Tucker Biographer: Fox Staffers Jumping Ship to Work with Carlson
TOTP = Top of the Page?
(That has taken me a coupla hours to figure out. *Sigh* What’s the next step down from semi-coherent?).
Psychiatrist DEBUNKS Gender Ideology Lies
Bruce of Newcastle says:
June 19, 2023 at 5:46 pm
I suspect the feelings, and the atrocities, are quite mutual. They don’t much like each other.
On the other hand there have been some prisoner swaps, so they do have an incentive to behave not too badly towards each other’s captured guys.
I saw an upload on Odnoklassniki (Russian social media) a coupe of days ago where a ‘Squad’ of about 15 Ukrainian soldiers prematurely surrendered (ie. before they had engaged in any combat) to Russian soldiers. The Ukrainians claim they were sent as reinforcements to a particular Company but on arrival, found that most of the original Company members were dead or dying. Rather than meet the same fate, the Ukrainian soldiers immediately surrendered.
The video was taken by a Russian soldier and shows the Ukrainian soldiers being escorted back behind the Russian lines. One Russian soldier is asking why they surrendered and the language used by the Ukrainians to describe their leaders was extremely ‘colourful’. They claim their command had deliberately sent them into a hopeless situation and that their command leaders knew that death was a near certain outcome. Fighting was futile – the position was lost and their small squad would be obliterated like those before them.
Unfortunately for the Ukrainian soldiers, they will likely be part of a POW exchange in due course and their commentary on their leadership won’t be well received. The video is sure to be seen by Ukrainian authorities.
Of course, I can’t swear to the authenticity of the video but it ‘looks real’.
Which either means it works extremely well, of a lot op people are wrongly convicted…
Yeah.
There is however a separation between the judge assigned to gather the evidence of the case and the one who eventually hears it.
Sure.
There both flamers who roomed at College together and are close relatives, but they would never back one another up.
Oh no.
I’m also winning to bet those demanding boycotts assume that slave equals black which in the case of Colosseum and Pyramids is unlikely to have been more than a percentage (of black slaves).
You’d also think the boycottish types would enjoy contemplating Christians being put to death as interval entertainment at the Colosseum.
OldOzzie has been quiet.
They haven’t for decades.
I thought examining judges were on their way out in the French system.
Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
June 19, 2023 at 6:14 pm
Don’t worry, they will be labelled as white-adjacent
Why does that sound like something out of South Africa, during the apartheid era?
Weren’t some (non-African) racial groups given the status of “honorary whites”?
No.
While Uncle Luigi calms the flock:
Aunty Pat says the quiet bit out loud:
The political power to “talk as equals – more equal – with the parliament and the executive of the day” is enormous, obviously.
Add to that the expressly given expectation that government will listen and act and you suddenly have a powerful Voice.
Add to that the broad political influence on party politics – where every Shitweasel that wants a glittering career on the public teat will need Voice endorsement – or face the ‘we can’t work with this person/Party for cultural reasons’ threat of grit in the National wheels.
Powers given exclusively on the basis of racial preference.
Not a big ask.
Ed Casesays:
June 19, 2023 at 6:37 pm
Which either means it works extremely well, of a lot op people are wrongly convicted…
Yeah.
There is however a separation between the judge assigned to gather the evidence of the case and the one who eventually hears it.
Sure.
There both flamers who roomed at College together and are close relatives, but they would never back one another up.
Oh no.
You are definitely pushing the legal margins this time. Pull your head in.
“Weren’t some (non-African) racial groups given the status of “honorary whites”?”
Yes, the Japanese were, beginning in the early 1960s.
Less restrictions don’t mean “honorary whites”.
But what would I know.
Chuckle!
This may have been posted already but if anyone has missed it and you are keen to know more about what is behind or indeed in front of the Voice please read. https://www.fairaustralia.com.au/the_divisive_voice_in_the_words_of_thomas_mayo
This may have been posted already but if anyone has missed it and you are keen to know more about what is behind or indeed in front of the Voice please read. https://www.fairaustralia.com.au/the_divisive_voice_in_the_words_of_thomas_mayo
Sorry about the duplicate. Slow system.
The Maori’s in the New Zealand Rugby team, that toured in 1976 were made “honorary whites.”
Voice.Fist.Voice.Fist.
This seems like one of these lenticular images that switches between two separate subjects, depending upon the angle from which you view it.
Fu.king climate protestors in Newcastle again. Slap on the wrists will follow from some snivelling beak about how proud he is of the spoilt little shits.
It will be a mixed pleasure listening to their screams of rage when their power goes out.
“Tokyo’s Yawata Iron & Steel Co. offered to purchase 5,000,000 tons of South African pig iron over a ten-year period. With such a huge deal in the works. South Africa could hardly afford to insult the visiting Japanese trade delegations that now would regularly visit the country. Without hesitation, Pretoria’s Group Areas Board announced that all Japanese henceforth would be considered white, at least for purposes of residence, and Johannesburg’s city fathers decided that “in view of the trade agreements” they would open the municipal swimming pools to Japanese guests.”
If the statements by tommy mayo about the screech don’t change Kenny’s mind about how benign the screech will be when mayo demands sovereignty, reparations and basically whitey to be the blak activists arse wipers, then nothing will.
You have a certain way with words…
Many of the slaves building the Colosseum were Jews.
Shannon Deery:
Parliament this week will debate a Bill to keep sadistic serial killer Paul Denyer behind bars for life.
Daniel Andrews has made it clear his government opposes the proposed law, and in doing so will side with a serial killer over the victims of his crimes.
Legislating against individuals can set dangerous precedents. But the government’s stubborn refusal to back the Denyer law smacks of hypocrisy.
Andrews was opposition leader when a law to keep Hoddle St killer Julian Knight jailed for life was passed in 2014.
He was premier when the government imposed identical restrictions on Russell St bomber Craig Minogue four years later.
These laws deemed both men ineligible for parole unless on their deathbeds or so infirm they were deemed harmless.
The Bill currently before parliament would make Denyer just the third Victorian to be subject to such restrictive conditions.
The depraved, sadistic and merciless nature of Denyer’s crimes should never be forgotten.
As sentencing judge Frank Vincent said, Denyer was “not one of us”.
He hated women and found the infliction of injury, suffering and death intensely gratifying and pleasurable.
Details of the “extraordinary savagery” behind the murders of Elizabeth Stevens, 18, Debbie Fream, 22, and Natalie Russell, 17, are as chilling today as they were in 1993. They were premeditated, calculated, horrific attacks.
“You obtain immense gratification from the humiliation, mutilation and killing of other human beings,” Justice Vincent said when sentencing.
“You do constitute such a danger, and at our present state of knowledge, apart from separating you from society there is nothing that can be done about it.
“Perhaps there will come a day when you will be able to walk among the ordinary people of our community. Whether you will ever do so must await the passage of years and the decision of the executive government of the time.”
Psychiatrists formed a view that Denyer obtained immense gratification from the humiliation, mutilation and killing of women.
Justice Vincent said: “For many, you are the fear that quickens their steps as they walk alone, or that causes a parent to look anxiously at a clock when a child is late.”
He sentenced Denyer to die behind bars, imposing three life sentences and refusing to set a parole period.
Denyer became just the second Victorian to have no parole period fixed since the abolition of the death penalty.
But Denyer successfully appealed this sentence, partly because of his youth at the time, and secured a 30-year non-parole period.
Now that he has served this time, Denyer wants out. He insists he has rehabilitated himself.
The Bill needs the support of at least seven crossbench MPs to pass the upper house and put pressure on the government to back it in the lower house.
It is unlikely to do so.
But failing to act definitively on Denyer should not be an option for the state government.
The Adult Parole Board states the purpose of parole is to promote public safety by supervising and supporting the transition of offenders from prison into the community.
The aim is to minimise their risk of reoffending (in frequency and seriousness) while on parole and after they finish their sentences.
Andrews says he has confidence in the parole board making the right decision. That approach could lead to Denyer being released one day, even if it comes with an inherent risk to the community.
There is currently no limit to how many times he can apply for parole, and each time he does, those close to his victims are retraumatised.
So are many members of the public, particularly in the Frankston and Seaford communities, still haunted by his crimes.
Governments riding roughshod over the courts take a slippery slope, and this should be tolerated in only the rarest cases.
Denyer’s is one of those.
The government has shown itself willing to legislate against individuals before.
If it won’t back this Bill, perhaps it will consider a broader approach.
In 2018 laws were passed in Western Australia allowing its government to prevent mass murderers and serial killers being considered for parole or resocialisation programs.
These reforms were to address the trauma and emotional toll of the family and friends of murder victims and others affected by these crimes.
WA elevated the interests of the community over that of offenders.
Perhaps it is an approach this government could adopt.
The WA parliament agreed to this law to apply to “the very worst mass murderers and serial killers serving life and indefinite terms”.
Denyer is one of our very worst. To use the judge’s phrase, he should remain “not one of us”.
OldOzzie has been quiet.
Yes Ed. I am a bit concerned about him as I have also not seen any of his posts on Jo Nova’s blog. His health has been very poor in recent years.
So Ozzie – if you are out there- please say hello!
Wretch – from what I have read (somewhere – don’t ask me where!) other western nations which fought in Afghanistan have also been holding witch-hunts to convict their soldiers (not sure if special forces) of war crimes. But our press don’t report that, do they?
Did anyone spend the time reading wikileaks back in 2010 when the Afghanistan papers were released ?
The US were murdering civilians on a daily basis.
How do we know?
The US military were the ones saying it.
I expect they would rather that than victim-adjacent.
And many of them came here to have, for want of a better expression, the ‘white’ life, as in their own palatial homes, nice cars, boats, holiday houses, overseas trips every year etc. Why would they want to side with a cause that says they are guilty and they can’t even remember how?
The only reason we have electricity running in NSW, Vic and SA on this cold winters night is because of coal generation in Qld and Tas hydro power. Vic’s brown coal is running full steam but not quite enough. NSW hasn’t been meeting it needs for sometime. We are sitting on a tight wire because the renewables fail to generate on dark cold evenings with little wind. It is a disaster in the making. See for yourself at https://aemo.com.au/en/energy-systems/electricity/national-electricity-market-nem/data-nem/data-dashboard-nem
Probably only tangentially relevant but since downloading one of her images on the intertubes, my yoghurt budget is a fraction of what it used to be.
French style system whereby the police, prosecutor and judge investigate before charges are laid might well be preferable to our traditional system.
Worth a try.
“Daily Mail.” Pull up the ladder, Jack, I’m all right.
OldOzzie says:
June 16, 2023 at 4:32 am
Thanks Tom – Happy Thursday here
I thought the French system operated on the principle that if you’re good looking you’re let off.
“Psychiatrists formed a view that Denyer obtained immense gratification from the humiliation, mutilation and killing of women.”
Indeed, and there’s zero reason to doubt that his hatred of women has subsided over the decades. It is interesting and disturbing, though not unusual, that serial killer like Denyer has identified as a woman whilst behind bars, and whilst now apparently he doesn’t, who’s to say that on release, and using Victoria’s radical self ID laws, Denyer decides to identify as a woman once again, and thus enters and uses female only spaces.
It’s insane. Who in their right mind would want this dangerous man released? He gave up any right to liberty when he brutally murdered three young women. Is there parole for them? No.
Meh!
A few exceptions for visitors don’t make a rule.
59.1% of Swiss yodellers voted for net zero policies. It’s get’s cold there and currently the blue eyed fu.kwits get 66% of their energy from fossils and another 20% from nukes. Apparently they’re mad rooters so maybe they’re going to hook up generators to the Swiss beds.
Joe Hildebrand on Andrew Probyn:
Marcia Langton, for example, would feel the full weight of the law as a recidivist offender.
Black Ball’s note about the sadistic serial killer Paul Denyer immediately led me to remembering with fondness Zulu’s comments about volunteer firing squads and hearty breakfasts.
The more I see the angrier I become – years ago I would have argued for life sentences as the maximum penalty.
This is the worst series of Black Mirror.
Pure shite.
Aunty Pat lets the cat out of the bag:
We are voting entrench race based privilege.
Damn formatting fail:
Inquisitorial justice systems have very high conviction rates ( I mean c. 99%).
Do you really want to give such powers to politically biased police forces, prosecutors & judges?
Nope. Just nope.
Sorry for so many posts in short succession but this may win the interwebs today. I trust the person who did this has been hounded out or sacked, Courier Mail:
I won’t go into the woods but if Crisafulli were to do this, he’d be jailed.
French Law is, er, interesting.
For instance, it doesn’t apply to Roman Polanski, because, Artist.
But if a cop fires a tear Gas grenade and it kills a Yellow Vest protester [because it was aimed at his head and hit the target], that’s okay too.
Talking about wacky Laws, there was an Port Arthur anniversary shindig
in Canberra this morning, but John Howard was too unwell to make the trip.
The Trial of Donald J Trump
I won’t go into the woods but if Crisafulli were to do this, he’d be jailed.
Lezzos.
Lezzos.
Yes twas lady on lady, still not excused.
Very intellectually convincing argument you put up there Old School. Incredible. Telling us what you once thought vs what you think now was the most persuasive part. Thanks for sharing.
A unit with harbour view caught my eye.
I emailed the agent for a price guide.
I thought it would be around 8mill.
Price guide: 17mill.
I just don’t understand this city anymore.
The decision for the bub caller at the link.
the punishment was going to be a transfer from the Toowoomba office to the Ipswich office with $5000 relocation expenses
No Presumption Of Innocence under the French System.
The Accused has to prove his Innocence.
The facts .. nuttin’ but the facts .. pleeeze ..!
Presumption of innocence
French Republic
France – Constitution 1958 (2008) EN
DECLARATION OF HUMAN AND CIVIC RIGHTS OF 26 AUGUST 1789
Article 9
As every man is presumed innocent until he has been declared guilty, if it should be considered necessary to arrest him, any undue harshness that is not required to secure his person must be severely curbed by Law.
Yes twas lady on lady, still not excused.
Well, if you knew that, why didn’t you disclose it?
As every man is presumed innocent until he has been declared guilty,
Sure, and 99 times out of 100, he’s found guilty.
If we had the French System, FlyingDuk would be doing 15 years on Devils Island for trying to run over a TC.
It is not OK that my life expectancy is eight years shorter than the deputy. It’s not OK.
The gucci gnome could be right, of course ..
It’s the “deputy’s” fault for being taller! ..! LOL!
Looking at the wrong statistic. How many investigations never get to court?
Don’t you normally have a Narcissists Anonymous meeting on Monday nights, J.C.?
Native Title 20 Years On:
Beyond the Hyperbole:
I’d especially highlight the section headed “The system is bust – patch-ups do not work”, wherein Gary Johns spills the beans on why aboriginal communities have “such a strong culture of compliance in poor
behaviour”.
There are plenty of people in the country who have known (or say they know), for at least the last 8 years (and probably longer), what changes could be made in aboriginal communities to lead them to lower violence, better health, and dare I say a richer life. An InVoice is not needed when there are known solutions to the problems the InVoice supposedly seeks to solve.
Every four years an Australian TV network explores the furthest corners of the planet to find five very special people.
They are looking for the most gratingly annoying people they can find and, once they are assembled, they put them in an Ashes commentary box.
Well, maybe the deputy doesn’t mouth off at randoms outside a strip club at 3:00 a.m.
That’s gotta help.
We just jumped in at season 6.
I have moved to the library and am watching the crickit.
So, yes.
Rodriguez:
Rodriguez – Crucify Your Mind (with lyrics)
Only 10% renewables supplying our electricity grid across all five eastern states tonight. And Bowen and the lunatics think that renewables will sustain our grid when we are forced to turn off coal. Pull the other one mate. You can’t make the wind blow.
You’re confusing me with yourself Mud and those terminally boring threads about comments you find like, really witty.
Call me old fashioned, old school tends to take pot shots at people always from a rear. Perhaps getting his own meds back helps balance out the universe.
Well, if you knew that, why didn’t you disclose it?
Because I couldn’t give a flying fornication. It’s at the Courier Mail, pay for a subscription dickhead.
It is no coincidence that the dambusters chaps spent considerable time working on the device rotation to get it to sink down the dam wall, along with a delayed detonation, for the sole purpose of creating maximum havoc.
An explosion on the surface of the water, let alone the top of dam wall, doesn’t quite cut it.
What, are you a bit LGBTIQ+++ friendly, pard?
Unless it’s a tactical nuke. 🙂
The whole renewable transmission grid is a thirty year vision. It’s a statement littered through all the strategy documents.
AEMO has rubbed Bowen’s crystal balls and can foresee the future and all technological advances that may occur.
This is the mother of all white elephants in the making.
Looking at the wrong statistic. How many investigations never get to court?
You wouldn’t know, it’s all Secret Squirrel.
And their Magic Pixie Dust Judges never make a mistake.
No worries JC, you champion.
Thanks for reminding me that The Cat is reserved exclusively for intellectually convincing arguments while personal reminisces about family businesses are verboten, first hand stories about New York are banned, reflections about daughters cannot be aired, vitriolic stoushes get deleted by the blog owner, incomprehensible nick-names are censored, tales from the trading room are not allowed, boasting about knowing the rich and famous is a no-no, and long standing animosities are just not tolerated.
Pot.
Kettle.
Black.
Hmmm
I feel a complete rewrite of our criminal justice system is needed as it will always be watered down.
I feel very strongly about this. All of the below ought to be constitutionally enshrined.
A 50-year ultimate bar on the most serious prosecutions, murder, genocide, war crimes.
For all other crimes, a 5-year statute of limitations with equitable tolling
Go back to the 12-year bar on civil claims and the 30-year ultimate bar.
Why? Because countries with statutes of limitations have lower crime rates.
I suppose the causal mechanism might be an incentive to report and investigate.
I also feel people don’t understand reasonable doubt to the point where it is misapplied very frequently.
I would make criminal and civil claims beyond ANY doubt. Yes, you heard me right.
I would not want to lose my liberty, property or (possibly, my life) on 9/11 jurors (at perhaps a third trial) or on the balance of probabilities.
Why? Recent and frequent miscarriages of justice.
I believe that the criminal procedure from arrest to trial needs to change. Arrest warrants issued by the bench need to be virtually the only reason for an arrest other than the direct pursuit of a crime witnessed by police. Indictments must come from a grand jury (which gives reason to an arrest warrant too) or from a committal after an arrest for pursuit of a crime. Probable cause should be allowed but only under very limited circumstances; such that abuse of it results in the “fruit of the poison tree doctrine” and the case is permanently stayed.
The probity value of unethically or illegally obtained evidence is too strongly favoured in the new evidence laws. We should adopt the American fruit of the poison tree doctrine.
The rape shield laws are a bad idea. I feel sorry for victims, but without proper process, more false convictions will result; this reduces disincentives for career criminals and serial offenders and lessens faith in the judicial process. Allowing “Jay” and his ilk to change the details of their testimony “because they were abused” has been a terrible, stupid and short-sighted idea.
Why? Recent and frequent miscarriages of justice.
Now, the idea of plod handing out security and liquor licences is absurd as riding around on a Cobb and Co coach and pretending you’re Governor Bourke.
Police should not regulate and regulators should never police. Nor should police be given powers to sign anything resembling a judicial exercise of office (the power to issue fines ought to be greatly curbed) and they should never get special treatment as silent partners to legislators eager to make the job of the police easy and convenient.
Why? Because everything about the above smacks of living in an unfree convict colony under a police state.
Unanimous juries, true double jeopardy, disallowing the abuse of changing indictments and charge sheets and ending multiple trials for a moveable feast of indictments for the same crimes need to be enforced.
Why? Because allowing the current state of trials is a rigged game and false convictions undermines faith in the criminal justice system and professional criminals beat the system.
The current trend to make more and more offences summary offences as well as palm off indictable offences to the local courts is truly disgusting.
Why? Because it is antithetical to the Manga Carta (1215), 1689 Bill of Rights, 1789 Declaration of the Rights of Man***, 1791 Bill of Rights and the assumptions that the Commonwealth Constitution (1900) was made under.
I have a belief in classical republicanism and it has eight core values that we would be better governed under.
Sortition
Term limits
Subsidiarity
Confederalism
Recall elections
Jury nullification
CIR to strike down bad laws
Sunset clauses on all legislation
This with the judicial & criminal process ideals as reforms would see us living more freely and with faith in convictions and severe sentences for serious crimes – a safer, happier and more stable society.
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***It’s truly beautiful.
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/rightsof.asp
Declaration of the Rights of Man – 1789
(Last one)
17. Since property is an inviolable and sacred right, no one shall be deprived thereof except where public necessity, legally determined, shall clearly demand it, and then only on condition that the owner shall have been previously and equitably indemnified.
Something that the ACT Chief Minister, Health Minister, Court of Appeal and PM Albanese ought to pay attention to.
Lol. Old School, I never thought you cared. But look, let’s play equals. You’re always posting digs about comments you don’t like from others.. with that putrid whiff of “judginess” you do so well. Let’s balance things out a little and highlight your own failings. Can’t see anything wrong with that. Can you? 🙂
Rise Melbourne
@Risemelbourne
Aus The “Voice” Vote well and truly exposed….
Here’s a deal for you , old school.
Name a single famous person I’ve ever boasted about that I said I’ve know well. Not seen in the streets, but know.
Go! Dishonest little worm.
Steve’s Dad is in control.
Cash!
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Cash 2.0 Great Dane Happy Father’s Day 2023
bespokesays:
June 19, 2023 at 7:36 pm
Meh!
A few exceptions for visitors don’t make a rule.
The embarrassing thing for the race baiters that some of the exceptions (Chinese, Japanese) are the same groups now considered “white adjacent”. The race baiters are now less open minded than apartheid South Africa.
And the exceptions did not only apply to visitors.
Has Winston been in lately?
Trump and RFK are the two most popular in a Harris poll.
https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/HHP_June2023_KeyResults.pdf
I’m still going with RFK as the next prez.
Farmer Gezsays:
June 19, 2023 at 8:38 pm
The whole renewable transmission grid is a thirty year vision. It’s a statement littered through all the strategy documents.
AEMO has rubbed Bowen’s crystal balls and can foresee the future and all technological advances that may occur.
This is the mother of all white elephants in the making.
It will never work with current technology and the only Transition is from cheap reliable energy 24/7 to a complete mess that will ruin Australia and take the country back to the Stone Age.
Blackout Bowen and Tennis Elbow don’t seem to realise that Net Zero is really their combined IQ.
CO2 is not a pollutant. And there has always been Climate Change so just do what Mother Nature does and adapt.
Without disturbing the ASIO work experience kiddies, no.
Barnes Wallis’ starting point was that the confinement provided by the water would enable most of the energy from a modest weapon to enter the dam wall.
If only he could get one into the right place…
If only he’d considered a clapped out Lada with its roof ripped off.
The embarrassing thing for the race baiters that some of the exceptions (Chinese, Japanese) are the same groups now considered “white adjacent”. The race baiters are now less open minded than apartheid South Africa.
Can you translate this PC gibberish into English?
No he hasn’t Bush. Magically with the nurse’s absence the site appears to have experienced a reduction in the number of really dense +stupid claims and assertions. Presumably you’ve stocked up on iodine too and checking out if “da Indian stole mi petrol”.
JC, I wrote knowing the rich and famous yet you want me to list those who I’ve know well
Goal post shifter.
(of course if I was full of “judginess” I’d be highlighting your poor English)
Okay, work on knowing famous then , old school.
I do know lots of rich people though, but why would I need to boast about that? 🙂
One name of someone who would be considered famous.
Go!
Ed Casesays:
June 19, 2023 at 9:05 pm
The embarrassing thing for the race baiters that some of the exceptions (Chinese, Japanese) are the same groups now considered “white adjacent”. The race baiters are now less open minded than apartheid South Africa.
Can you translate this PC gibberish into English?
It’s hardly surprising that you cannot understand a simple statement, since your head (and the rest of you) are full of sh1t, Turd Case.
I’d suggest that you broaden your reading beyond Labor talking points, but that drivel is about the limit of your comprehension.
Why would you presume that?
So you’re into gram checking too, OSC. Neat.
Let’s play.
It is exactly as you say.
The engineering basis of design for the distribution infrastructure would typically be 60+ years.
The expected life of the renewable generation infrastructure would be 15-20 years.
Not entirely sure what it is, but something does not compute. There must be an Excel spreadsheet that explains it.
Why not, seeing you’re asking after one of the biggest loons on the site.
Barnes Wallis’ starting point was that the confinement provided by the water would enable most of the energy from a modest weapon to enter the dam wall.
If only he could get one into the right place…
If only he’d considered a clapped out Lada with its roof ripped off.
A clapped out Lada with its roof ripped off would not have bounced very well when dropped out of the bomb bay of a Lancaster Bomber. Funny that.
I have to say, I’m surprised
“Da Indian stole mi petrol”
… didn’t go into Mud’s witty comments threads as that would have to claim 2023.
Extraordinary poll.
I’d no idea about the extent of RFK’s popularity and, possibly more importantly, lack of unpopularity.
The major consideration seems to be the high ‘No opinion’ score – that could deliver either way.
Old School
I forgot to mention that I also saw Charlie Rose too walking down the street.
He’s quite stooped too.
I don’t him though, do you?
I never said most of the things I said.
– Yogi Berra
So just more of your puerile baiting then?
Good point.
That seems to rule out British involvement in busting Kakhovka.
Why would that be puerile when you’re asking after someone with lunatic views and opinions? Guess if you think stocking up on iodine and believing an Indian stole your petrol are deeply thought out comments, then you would be openly asking where he’s gone.
Delivered in a Skoda Prozac SUV?
Come on, man!
Liberals have turfed Teena McQueen out of vice-presidency of the party. This SMH report calls her hard-right when she was barely in the middle. It didn’t matter, they wanted her gone.
Teena McQueen out of the Liberal Party executive
Where’s Faulty? I haven’t seen him for a while? Bush, do you know?
Where was Bowen when the Droner from Altona was banging on about “gold plated poles and wires”?
OK.
I’ll just wait until you do it again.
You know, the “When George Soros traded with us….” sort of thing.
It’ll happen.
Do it now.
Don’t be dishonest as I never said that and I’ve always made sure people knew what I was talking about. I’ve always said that we traded with Uncle George’s fund. Most of the Street did. Saying you traded with Uncle George doesn’t mean he was sitting on his execution desk barking orders down the phone, you dickhead. No one would make such a claim.
You’re just as bad as Muddy- little fagot hall monitors.
I keep seeing these ‘top up’ Covid 19 ‘alleged vaccines’ advertisements on TV. Are Taxpayers still paying for this shite? Apparently yes.
Now to death rates –
Key statistics
The mortality rate remained low in 2021 (507.2 per 100,000 people).
Ischaemic heart disease was the leading cause of death.
Suicide was the 15th leading cause of death.
There were two deaths from Influenza, a record low.
The rate for Alcohol-induced deaths was the highest in 10 years.
Hmmmmmmmmm. Covid-19 not mentioned.
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/causes-death-australia/2021
I think ancient trading routes are a fascinating thing to look at, but “mining” would have been severely limited.
They were a meat-dependent tribal society that seasonally used grains, fruits and tubers to supplement their diet (largely consisting of meat or fish).
Pascoe is wasting our time with small details. We need answers to the big questions of ancient Aboriginal settlements.
Did aboriginal bakers have to make wedding cakes for gay hunters?
Still defending himself against charges of … [Snip. I won’t have you repeating that sort of stuff here, Sancho. Let’s wait for the outcome of the case, shall we. Dover.]
JC, didn’t you say you were pals with Lizzo?
LOL
Where’s struphid then?
Get it right. I said I was very close with Taylor Swift. Old School would back me up on that.
Hohohoho. “Miners”?
Everyone knows about the sacred gold mines, but these only come to light when a couple of million has been spent by whitey exploration companies and a claim lodged at the Mines Dept.
Brace yourself, people. This is rough as guts.
Al White: The Story of a Marine Grunt in the First Battle of Khe Sanh (April 1967)
Tickler
Can I make a suggestion? Some of the vids you link to are quite interesting as the one you found and linked to above. But it goes for about 1 hour 20 mins. Can you suggest the most interesting times when they’re so long?
“The mining doesn’t look like conventional mining,” he said. “But any miner would understand that it would be called mining. There’s no machinery obviously, but there were tools and levers.”
The only tool here is the alleged writer. Not an author at all. So, to this mining stuff. No Gold, no Silver, no Iron, no Copper, no Opals, no, no, no, smelting. Just stone. And no wheel. FFS.
Recently, airlines were pushing the idea that technology is now so advanced in the cockpit that just one pilot was needed on flights..
That sounded great until you realize that humans form part of the equation and you end up with this:
Delta pilot allegedly shows up drunk for flight from Scotland to NYC
Liberals have turfed Teena McQueen out of vice-presidency of the party. This SMH report calls her hard-right when she was barely in the middle. It didn’t matter, they wanted her gone.
Teena McQueen out of the Liberal Party executive
The liberals are fu.ked; and so is Australia
JCsays:
June 19, 2023 at 9:56 pm
Tickler
Can I make a suggestion? Some of the vids you link to are quite interesting as the one you found and linked to above. But it goes for about 1 hour 20 mins. Can you suggest the most interesting times when they’re so long?
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Have a good flight to NYC. All the best to you and your daughter upon landing.
I remember when the epileptic bean-pole, Garrett, referred to ‘Hate speech’ in one of his interviews and thought “How the hell do you define that?”
Exactly, as it appears to be very subjective. As an example.
Someone calls someone a Pooftah. Hate speech.
Someone calls someone a ‘Pommie Bar Steward’. Not Hate speech.
And this comedy could not be done now.
https://www.google.com/search?q=monty+python+university+of+woolloomooloo&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBAU906AU906&oq=monty+python+univr&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i22i30l2.19476j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:817dbb49,vid:9ojhtq51Ya8
Pascoe needs to lift his game. All those big flat areas around Oz were once landing grounds for ancient aboriginal astronauts.
Everyone knows this.
Mark Dice in his element.
Wait For It…
LOL.
That Pooftah and Pommie Bar Steward Monty Python weblink should have been this –
https://www.google.com/search?q=monty+python+university+of+woolloomooloo&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBAU906AU906&oq=monty+python+univr&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i22i30l2.19476j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:0d57555f,vid:5ULnwJX2AoA
Top Endersays:
June 19, 2023 at 10:45 pm
Pascoe needs to lift his game. All those big flat areas around Oz were once landing grounds for ancient aboriginal astronauts.
Everyone knows this.
So there is no truth that when those aboriginal astronauts landed back to earth on their faces that they ended up with broad flat noses………………………………….Mr. Pascoe. What do think? Is Major Tom a Junkie? He was white yer’ know.
lol
looks real
reading comedy to the committee … lol again
brilliant !
almost as funny as JC mistaking marketing bullshit for science
mt
Scientific management (Taylorism) was invented by a mechanical engineer and practiced by Henry Ford. It works.
Marketing is the highest discipline in commerce. I say that as an economist and economics has an imperialist empiricism and is older than most second to accounting as stewardship. There is a reason that it wasn’t always taught to first year undergraduates.
I recommend a book called The Delta Project. It was 1 – 2 decades ahead of its time and helped me finally understand marketing. It was published in 2001. Marketing is rightfully cradle to grave product or service oversight for owners or managers. Ideally you’d embrace Taylorism and objective methods like numerical methods, statistical hypothesis testing and generally being empirical.
Being a pedant here but I think you mean advertising.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSWUWPx2VeQ
Trans
The MIT tech site is an effective resource for the most recent developments in tech; it is not a marketing site. I believe you are perplexed. MIT is the world’s top tech institution rather than a trades school (immediately after 9th grade). It’s interesting what comes out of there.
But now is your chance to express any scientific disagreements you may have with what MIT says on the development of solid state batteries. We are happy to wait for a response.
Getting back to the subject that triggered me with respect to what Old School and a few others posted earlier regarding the serial killer.
It appears lost on some of the people here that the Andrews government is tailoring legislation to keep this scumbag in prison for the rest of his life. Here’s what should concern those who call themselves conservatives: This animal was sentenced to x number of years in the clink for the horrid things he did and appears to have done his time.
It doesn’t seem at all worrying to some that a government would legislate a tailored law just to keep the animal in prison. And some here call themselves conservatives and adherents to the rule of law. My arse.
You want to give the government the right to legislate against individuals.
JC reckons he’s too good for that crowd.
Fatboy, that’s not helpful.
is there one that doesn’t ?
Coming from the ac repairman who attacks people by assertion only. I’m calling it assertion trolling.
Somebody above linked to Fair Australia web page regarding Yes campaigner Thomas Mayo.
FA have done some good research on him and he is yet another sign of what is to come if the Yes side wins.
Recommend all read up on him and tell your friends.
JC
That’s actually a pet dislike of mine.
Too gutless to give a depraved scumbag the key they scratch around for special ways of keeping them locked up.
Eg: the Grenough axe murderer. Hacked 4 people to death and raped the bodies of the 2 little girls. Has been applying for parole for about 5 years now.
In what sane world should he ever be released.
Yet judges just can’t bring themselves to say “ yeah, nah, you die in jail asshole”
seriously?
your whole premise is like “i read it it on the internet”?
Eggsactly Mole.
Ensure these urchins are never released, but for lord’s sake creating the opportunity for tailored legislation. What could ever go wrong?
Other that regular books, mags etc, how else do you obtain information, you assertion troll? Try and craft an answer to this new assertion without avoiding it.
Having dedicated areas of quality stone for production and exchange along trade routes is a well-known feature of aboriginal society and of all stone-age cultures. During the early neolithic in Britain the Langdale area became very significant, where rock cutting was done in high inaccessible places, signifying a ritual value was placed stones from on the area itself. In hunter-gatherer societies often these stone quarries were for local use only. The Victorian ones at Mount William are the best known and most extensive in aboriginal Australia. The stones were often put into a handle and used for chopping purposes. Among other things, such as the essential grinding of seeds and other foodstuffs needing breaking down, they were useful for cutting meat, cleaning skins, and hitting recalcitrant women. As Dot notes, the ‘native flour’ was only a supplement to the main diet of small animals, occasional hunting gains of large animals and ‘picked’ berries, plus dug up roots.
your problem JC, is that you have no way of telling bullshit from fact
you can posture all you like but it wont change anything
A clip before bed. It stings.
Disposable Heroes Of Hiphoprisy, the – Television, The Drug Of The Nation [full official video]
there’s yr problem dumb-arse
No, but it was funny.
Oh so it’s books that you find problematic. Got it, Trans.
Regular books and mags means the tree version, you incompetent nincompoop.
Get back to this most recent assertion trolling. How else do would you update knowledge and information?
Here’s your chance to illustrate how it’s done. The other evening you posted some misleading indecipherable equation crap that was supposed to show how knowledgeable you are about batteries.
Later on, I posted a link to MIT Tech Review that implied your assertion was garbage. You have your chance now to show why MIT Tech review was crap , while your bilge was correct.
Go!.
bloody hell,
its only 10am in New York and the tosser is already incoherent
hey JC,
while you get to spazz out all day in NY
everybody here will be asleep
don’t have an aneurysm you silly old prick