Open Thread – Tues 20 June 2023


The Battle of Waterloo: The British Squares Receiving the Charge of the French Cuirassiers, Henri Félix Emmanuel Philippoteaux, 1874

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sfw
sfw
June 23, 2023 1:06 pm

Speedbox “Presented ‘as is’ from the site. Why do you think it’s fake?”

Look at it, it’s all wrong, the graphics are poor, the landscape is unreal and if you were to carry a train on a truck like that, it wouldn’t be on rails. Nope it’s just someone’s imagination.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 23, 2023 1:08 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
June 23, 2023 at 12:59 pm
Boambee Johnsays:

June 23, 2023 at 11:17 am

Mother Lodesays:
June 23, 2023 at 9:22 am
Plibbers turned up with her son – a tall gangly fellow who dressed his age rather than the occasion.

Is that the copper son currently facing charges, or another son?

Son of KKK.

Thanks Sancho, all these frightbats sound the same to me. And those two are both blondes, confusing me even more!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 23, 2023 1:10 pm

Westerman pointed to a strong pipeline of potential renewable generation projects proposed for the National Electricity Market, totalling more than 200 GW.

“But the crucial word here is ‘proposed’,” he told the Australian Energy Week conference. “Bringing these new projects to market and connecting them into the grid urgently is critical to ensure consumers continue to have reliable power when they need it.”

Bullshit!
There are existing powerlines and easements available for use with renewables. The closing of coal generation leaves big transmission lines from those sites under-utilised and available for nearby projects.
The incompetence of Westerman and the clown show called AEMO has led to the very crisis he described.
They’re the bloody planners!
These twerps allowed renewables to be built in remote locations without grid hookup and now they want to bulldoze their way through farmer’s properties to fix the fiasco they created.
The concept that foreign multi-nationals have any interest in cheaper power prices when building wind and solar across valuable farmland is farcical.
AEMO needs closing down. They have manifestly failed to plan and now seek to blame landholder for their own poor work.

MatrixTransform
June 23, 2023 1:11 pm

…whilst I can understand your anger and frustration MT, there’s nothing to learn

chill woman.

what I said was not meant to be a dig at yourself.

it was intended as a general comment for all those sheilas that dont think straight and have been poisoned by the marxists

and nice rant by the way

anyhow, I’m neither of frustrated nor angry

… more bemused and somewhat smug

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 23, 2023 1:11 pm

It’s no surprise this submarine sank as a consequence of decades of unchecked global warming. It likely lost its navigation systems power relying on expensive and unreliable fossil fuels.

I thought it was down to the systemic racism.

Also transphobia. They should have painted the hull with the rainbow flag. That would have fixed it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 23, 2023 1:13 pm

From Wikipedia:-

OceanGate claimed on its website as of 2023 that the Titan was “designed and engineered by OceanGate Inc. in collaboration [with] experts from NASA, Boeing, and the University of Washington.” A 1?3-scale model of the Cyclops 2 pressure vessel was built and tested at APL-UW; the model was able to sustain a pressure of 4,285 psi (29.54 MPa; 291.6 atm), corresponding to a depth of approximately 3,000 m (9,800 ft).

Oh, OK.
Some pretty reassuring names in there, complete with some nice sounding numbers.
Well, not really.
One third scale model not quite reaching the Titanic depth pressures?
Gulp!
But read on, dear reader …

After the disappearance of the Titan in 2023, UW stated that APL had no involvement in “design, engineering, or testing of the Titan submersible.” A Boeing spokesperson also said that Boeing “was not a partner on the Titan and did not design or build it.” A NASA spokesperson said that NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center had a Space Act Agreement with OceanGate, but “did not conduct testing and manufacturing via its workforce or facilities”.

The lawyers at UW, Boeing and NASA know that the sub company will go bust, and the writs will start landing on their doormat.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 23, 2023 1:16 pm

Joh, I couldn’t get your link to work, so searched around for some other pics. Of course I have view on fashions! Something I share with Cassie. And you too, it seems. Every woman has to learn to dress in ways men simply don’t (mostly) have to do.

Does my bum look big in this? comes to mind for some of the coal and gas advertisements masquerading as ball gowns. In general, from the quick look I took, which didn’t encompass the whole range of what areff wonderfully terms going ‘gussied up’, apart from the greenies’ efforts there were fewer total abominations this year than previously. Elbow’s consort looked quite attractive in something black and flowing, and Mrs. Abbott looked toned (no pun intended) and stunning in a black halter-neck number that admittedly could have been fitted a little higher under the arms. Laura Chalmers, Jim’s wife, wins my vote with her splashy waisted and bell-skirted deep blue with white floral daubs producing a panelling-effect on her gown and Penny Wong looked like a million other Asian doyens you see around the place these days on gala nights, restrained and elegant in satin black with a red poncho, but lacking some added bling. Far too many of them have been eating too well on our taxes, or maybe, as with Jenny Morrison, it’s stacking on the weight due to stress, for her shiny grey pantsuit simply emphasised that. Ball gown modelling is basically for the slim, the seriously overweight did what they could but most were still eyesores and one wonders if Maggi T was around today whether she could have helped. On slimmer women there were quite a few good examples of the basic style, slim skirts with empire or other fitted bodices, with far fewer really bad examples worn by those with figures that could cope. And I didn’t see one Cinderella in a Princess Diana wedding froth, for which let us be thankful for small mercies.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 23, 2023 1:16 pm
Cassie of Sydney
June 23, 2023 1:16 pm

“chill woman.”

I like being called “woman”.

Vagabond
Vagabond
June 23, 2023 1:17 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
June 23, 2023 at 12:38 pm

I think the Liberal Party has been infiltrated by very elite, and very smug green left apparatchiks, men and women such as Bragg, Bummingham, Sharma, Allen, Martin, Kean, Zimmerman, Archer, Falinsky and others, who feign being “Liberal” but aren’t, who don’t give a toss about Menzian values, who wouldn’t know anything from Menzies 1942 speech

Before the last election when the unlamented Katie Allen was my local MP I sent her a copy of that speech with an exhortation to send it to the rest of the “liberal” MPs. Needless to say I never got a reply. Her loss of her formerly blue ribbon liberal seat was totally expected.

We now we have a liars doc as our local member. Good and hard. As I wrote to Allen at the time, if it’s inevitable that I’m going to be shafted I’d prefer it to be the natural shafters rather than LINOs who have betrayed their constituency.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 23, 2023 1:19 pm

At least it would have been quick, after a heart stopping second or two of realising something was wrong

At that depth its quite possible there wasnt even time enough to register something going wrong.
At 3000m
4,382.41,PSI
https://www.social-diving.com/water-pressure-calculator/

Or to put it another way roughly 302.14 times normal atmospheric pressure.
Or: very very roughly 2 kgs of dynamite concentrated into the capsule.
A single kilogram of dynamite can yield overpressure effects measured at more than 1,200 kPa (174 psi) at 1 meter

Lysander
Lysander
June 23, 2023 1:23 pm

Dunno if BS or not:

Local sources are reporting Ukrainian Armed Forces fired a British Storm Shadow missile and struck the Chongar Straight bridge in Crimea.

Russia just threatened to strike Ukrainian “decision-making centers” if Ukraine fired on Crimea…

Cassie of Sydney
June 23, 2023 1:24 pm

“We now we have a liars doc as our local member. Good and hard. As I wrote to Allen at the time, if it’s inevitable that I’m going to be shafted I’d prefer it to be the natural shafters rather than LINOs who have betrayed their constituency.”

Allen was one of the worst of the LINO’s. She crossed the floor with Archer, Sharma, Zimmerboy and Martin to vote AGAINST religion freedom. She’d regularly appear on Kenny on Sky with herself sitting in front of books by Barry and Michelle Obama.

Some Liberal….NOT.

Allen can f*ck off into oblivion.

Vagabond
Vagabond
June 23, 2023 1:24 pm

I see that Dr Alan Finkel has bailed out of the attempt to resurrect the corpse of the Victorian State Electricity Commission citing “personal reasons”. I believe he was the only person on the advisory panel with an electrical engineering background but almost certainly not in Power. Lets hope it’s confirmation that he has finally experienced a reality check which is probably unlikely.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 23, 2023 1:25 pm

TE – no, haha, saw the movie based on it.
I did wonder what would happen if the sole operator of our boat had a problem and collapsed. Kiddies in the water splashing around watching the boat drift off and 30km from a beer at the Central.
Was an experience though. 4 massive outboards on a boat seating about 12 people going about 70km/hr. Driver pulled up half way out when a big squall was coming – would have shredded us going through it at that speed.

Johnny Rotten
June 23, 2023 1:27 pm

Australia’s transition to renewables is running out of time – and transmission lines – to meet the government’s 2030 target.

ANY Electricity Power Generation should be as close as possible to the Consumer. That’s because of the power loss over the Transmission lines (basic Physics really Mr. Blackout Bowen). What a waste this all is and in the case of Blackout Bowen – A waste of space..

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 23, 2023 1:30 pm

He may or may not have been right, but the stream of consciousness about your marital relations (suitably edited to make it look good) is tedious, self indulgent and indicates a lack of connection to the real world.

Well, I dunno, Joh. I’m pretty connected to the real world. Maybe if you were married you’d see things differently. Hairy and I share things, do things together, and I enjoy the minor sturm and drang of it, the man and woman style and nature of it.

Just as Delta writes of her cookery and Calli her embroidery and other things they share here, including occasionally, as does Tinta, inflecting the husbandly side of things. It’s all Real Life, the sort of stuff dealt with in the Real Life columns of the Speccie. You can scroll if it’s not your cup of tea.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 23, 2023 1:32 pm

Finkel probably realised the new SEC is just a shell conceived and designed for political use by Andrews. Vic Cats will see the power rebate ads that come under the SEC banner.
It performs no tasks and owns no assets that are part of the electricity system.

Rabz
June 23, 2023 1:33 pm

The ALPBC:

the Titanic was 4,000 kms below sea level

Science!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 23, 2023 1:36 pm

I did wonder what would happen if the sole operator of our boat had a problem and collapsed.

Sort of thing that’s always on my mind when travelling and taking on tourist ‘adventures’.
I hated, for instance, our trip to an outer island from Port Douglas on a Chinese junk, with classic red sails, and a single operator. We hit strong winds coming back and I was blanching pale with fear a lot until the town hove into sight and there was some sense that if we went down we might be quickly rescued. When children are involved it’s even worse to contemplate how a disaster would pan out.

Johnny Rotten
June 23, 2023 1:37 pm

From now, all males over 18 who have not yet received a military summons MUST report to the recruitment office within 10 days, even if medically unfit.

What if you are 100 years old and live in a Nursing Home? FFS.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 23, 2023 1:38 pm

the Titanic was 4,000 kms below sea level

Science!

That’s what I mean about needing to get the depth right before folklore comes into play. 🙂

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 23, 2023 1:48 pm

This is a real headliner from a real sharticle in a real mainstream newspaper in the current year.

Someone thought phrasing something this way would paint who the obvious bad guys are…

British extremists are importing tactics from the US hard right. Their target? Family drag shows

Because family drag shows are a thing, now, in the current year, apparently.

Some of its “facts” seem a little shaky.
They push a “groomer” narrative, reviving a decades-old attempt to baselessly associate the LGBTQ+ community with paedophilia.
Such as when PIE was part of the whole LGBT thing??
The Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) was a British pro-paedophile activist group, founded in October 1974 and officially disbanded in 1984.

The rest of the sharticle is an obvious attempt to link glowie populated headline mobs with people who genuinely believe desensitizing kids to men dressed as women is a bad thing.

Jorge
Jorge
June 23, 2023 1:49 pm

Swimming on the reef has to be one of life’s great experiences. Paddling around, lift your head out of the water and hear the waves swirling and foaming over the shallow outer reef just a short distance away. The feeling is as if you’re at any beach. You could just swim over and walk around in the shallows and it’s 25k offshore. Tour operators, however, don’t seem to relish a trip to Fiji to pick you up.

Johnny Rotten
June 23, 2023 1:50 pm

The old believe everything, the middle-aged suspect everything, the young know everything.

– Oscar Wilde

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 23, 2023 1:52 pm

Now this is something you don’t see every day. A very large wheeled vehicle with a train on its back crossing a river where the bridge has washed away.

So struth was right.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 23, 2023 1:57 pm

By the way, Joh, my best female friend is unmarried, having lost two long and significant relationships with men in her life. So marriage can be irrelevant to friendships, happy to share a coffee with you still sometime to show you I am a fairly normal sort of person. This friend and I get on so well, always have from the moment we first met, she has no children, and she never finished high school. She pretty smart though. And she was once a beauty queen, she’s very into fashion and looking good still, lol, so we do share that. She’s nine years younger than me, her family are leftist politicos in Canberra, and she’s moved to the right in recent years. She doesn’t live in Sydney, but we phone each other weekly. Like my sister, her sister is a rabid greenie.

I have always felt sad that you lost a long-term female friend over politics, something you shared here. It does happen, and it’s always a blow when it does, as others here have said too from their own experiences.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 23, 2023 1:57 pm

So yesterday was ‘Juneteenth’.

I assume it would be a day when the descendants of slaves offer up thanks to white people for freeing their ancestors from a condition that America inherited rather than instituted.

Chris
Chris
June 23, 2023 1:58 pm

So struth was right.

Oh, come on.

Dot
Dot
June 23, 2023 1:59 pm

family drag shows

You sir, live in a strange communidee.

amortiser
amortiser
June 23, 2023 2:01 pm

Regarding the warnings of the AEMO Chief Executive about the provision of the necessary infrastructure to achieve 82% renewables by 2030, what have they been doing?

We saw what happened a few years ago when the SA grid collapsed. With the major SA push for wind and solar, they failed to take account of what would happen if weather conditions shut down the wind generators. Are there not engineers planning and operating this system?

We now have the situation where the transmission of power from the generating hubs has not been properly planned for. They are planning for 200gw of wind capacity. Currently there is 10.277gw of wind installed along with 8.809gw of solar which is useless at night. Current batter storage totals 904mw which at peak hour would last less than 20 minutes.

There is no way they can construct 180gw of wind and solar capacity in 7 years, however, this is the promise of the political class.

Whereas fossil fuel generators can guarantee upwards of 90% of their nameplate capacity allowing for planned and unplanned maintenance, renewables, despite their large nameplate capacity, can guarantee nothing. All the storage capacity they can build and it is wildly expensive, cannot overcome this reality.

On top of this, they are promising a huge increase in EV usage. The recharging of these vehicles will typically take place at the evening peak and overnight. In the last few weeks the evening peak demand has been around 32000mw. This will increase dramatically with EVs. They are banking on pumped hydro storage to cover the renewable intermittency problem. They will pump water uphill during the low demand periods which up to now has been overnight post the evening peak. They haven’t allowed for EV recharging.

We are galloping towards a disaster. AEMO knows it. When will the political class admit they are wrong and reverse course?

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 23, 2023 2:02 pm

We ended up with part of the old VEC. Every now and again some old relic of the public service culture was unearthed like a Roman coin in a ploughed field. If the branch couldn’t deal with it, more often than not it ended up on my desk.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Lizzie, if it helps you at all, the Titanic is resting at a depth of about Twelve & a half thousand feet.

johanna
johanna
June 23, 2023 2:04 pm

Well, I dunno, Joh. I’m pretty connected to the real world. Maybe if you were married you’d see things differently. Hairy and I share things

You passive aggressive cow, don’t run that line on me.

Please explain the relative moral values of married and unmarried people, including the rationale for why.

I look forward to the explanation for nuns and monks.

Eejit.

Dot
Dot
June 23, 2023 2:06 pm

Lizzie, if it helps you at all, the Titanic is resting at a depth of about Twelve & a half thousand feet.

Yes sailor but how many fathoms, rods, chains and hogsheads is that?

Just to clear things up for those miffed by the three reported depths.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 23, 2023 2:08 pm

I do wish AEMO would cut itself.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 23, 2023 2:11 pm

the Titanic is resting at a depth of about Twelve & a half thousand feet.

So what is it then? 1 foot is a bit more than 3 km?

I might ask ABC fact checkers to clarify.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 23, 2023 2:21 pm

I might ask ABC fact checkers to clarify.

A couple of B J’ism graduates. Check their workings.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 23, 2023 2:23 pm

So struth was right.

Whoa!

That is ‘end of days’ ‘lion resteth with the lamb’ ‘one by one stars going out’ ‘milk carton opens easily as designed’ talk.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 23, 2023 2:23 pm

Good little article from pomgolia.
Think a fair bit applies here as well.
Imagine if we didnt have the mining boom going on where wed be.

https://thecritic.co.uk/britains-mass-immigration-hangover/
Like a true addict, we are powering through our hangover by maintaining and even increasing our consumption. Immigration has reached unprecedented levels in 2023, and we are being told to prepare for numbers of one million a year as the “new normal” in the coming decades. We are about to see what “real immigration” looks like.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 23, 2023 2:27 pm

A couple of B J’ism graduates. Check their workings.

Doubtless amongst their calculations terms like ‘really big number’, ‘race’, ‘gender’ and ‘climate’ all cancel out to give the 3 km thing.

Speedbox
June 23, 2023 2:27 pm

dover0beach says:
June 23, 2023 at 1:30 pm

You’ve probably seen this but RT report:

Residents of the Obolonsky district in the Ukrainian capital who are eligible for mobilization must report to the military recruitment offices within ten days, even if they do not receive a personal notice, the local draft commissariat said on Thursday.

The document, signed by commissar Alexey Privala, was posted on social media, as well as reprinted by the Ukrainian newspaper Strana. Responding to the outlet’s inquiry, Privala’s office claimed the order was nothing new and that such notices were being posted regularly.

What is a precedent in the district, however, is the blanket call-up of all draftees. The western Ukrainian city of Ivano-Frankovsk has already enacted the same measure. Their orders, dated June 13, also refer to the mobilization of vehicles and forbids residents from moving without the explicit permission of the draft commissariat.

The Ivano-Frankovsk notice set a ten-day deadline for all men subject to the draft notice to report for service.

The Obolonsky district commissariat has also referred to the same ten-day deadline. Its orders apply not only to the men registered in the district, but even those residing there temporarily, according to Strana.

Ukraine’s Chernigov Region reported on Wednesday that it was struggling to meet its mobilization quota. More than 20,000 people have not reported following their summons, regional draft commissar Oleg Goncharuk has admitted.

The expanded mobilization measures come as the long-heralded “counteroffensive” on the Zaporozhye front fails to dislodge Russian forces after more than two weeks of fighting.

The attack was “not meeting expectations on any front,” Western officials told CNN on Thursday, while President Vladimir Zelensky acknowledged on Wednesday that progress had been “slower than desired.”

According to Russian officials, Ukraine has suffered up to 13,000 casualties since June 4, and is in the process of regrouping its brigades to try again. National Security Council Secretary Nikolay Patrushev and Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu briefed President Vladimir Putin on Thursday that many Western-supplied vehicles were among the 246 tanks, 152 infantry fighting vehicles, and 443 armored vehicles Ukraine lost during the attempted attacks.

Note the comment “Ukraine’s Chernigov Region reported on Wednesday that it was struggling to meet its mobilization quota. More than 20,000 people have not reported following their summons”.

It is entirely possible that a good number of those 20,000 have left the country, relocated elsewhere within Ukraine, are university students (who could previously defer service) although some are probably just ignoring the summons.

Interesting.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 23, 2023 2:29 pm

Australias vaping/smoking taken for a refreshing trot to the woodshed for a paddling..

It is difficult for a British audience to understand quite how deranged the climate of opinion is Down Under. While public health authorities in the UK have taken a sober look at the evidence and accepted that e-cigarettes are a game-changer for smoking cessation, Australia has descended in a full blown moral panic with politicians and alleged experts shamelessly lying to the public. The situation has got so bad that one doctor gave his son cigarettes to help him stop vaping.
….
Australia is probably the only developed country in the world where both smoking and vaping is on the rise among young people. Through a combination of incompetence and mendacity, the Australian political and public health establishment has engineered a unique situation in which the sale of two products that are substitutes for each another are on the rise and both are being largely purchased on the black market.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 23, 2023 2:30 pm

James O’Doherty in the Daily Telegraph:

When Chris Minns announced his first cabinet, the promotion of Yasmin Catley to the Police portfolio was one of the bigger surprises.

Catley, as Jodi McKay’s deputy leader, was firmly in the camp trying to see off the leadership challenge that delivered Minns Labor’s top job.

She is hardly a close ally of the now-Premier. So when Labor’s first ministry promoted Catley from Customer Service and Digital to the Police portfolio, eyebrows were raised.

At the time, it was argued behind the scenes that Catley’s elevation was an attempt by Minns to bury the factional hatchet.

But some Labor sources argued the job would be a poisoned chalice.

Catley, a leading figure in Labor’s left faction, is arguably not the most natural fit for a role that requires a tough-on-crime stance.

Her faction even tried to force Labor to repeal tough anti-protest laws last year, in a direct rebuke to the Premier’s stance.

To her credit, Catley has this week come out to strongly denounce the actions of climate change protesters causing havoc on freight rail lines.

But her handling of a series of crises facing police since coming to office raise the question of whether she is across her brief.

If Catley’s notes for a media conference in April are anything to go by, we probably should not be surprised that the Coalition smells blood in the water. She arrived with a list of handwritten talking points for the announcement, with Police Commissioner Karen Webb, about a major sting on domestic violence offenders.

“1. Talk about DV,” the notes began, before “2. Tackling DV is a priority for the Minns govt”.

Task number six on Catley’s hand-drawn list was to “pass to commish (Commissioner Webb),” presumably for more details.

Two months later, Catley is still struggling to answer questions without step by step instructions.

On Wednesday, it was revealed that NSW Police deliberately omitted key details about the tasering of 95-year-old Clare Nowland from its initial public statements.

Asked in Parliament about the apparent omission of information, Catley said that she only learned about the draft media release from media reports.

Webb publicly stated, a month ago, that key details were left out of the original release a month ago.

“Early in the investigation it was necessary for us to make sure that the family were aware what the circumstances were,” she told 2GB’s Ben Fordham on May 22. “We didn’t want that family to hear on the radio or on TV what had happened to their mum, and so we had to be a bit sensitive to that,” Webb said.

Police Ministers are routinely briefed on sensitive police matters. After being caught flat-footed in her initial response to the tasering, it beggars belief that Catley would not make sure she was fully informed.

The tasering is now the subject of multiple investigations, including a criminal probe and an investigation by the Law Enforcement Conduct Commission.

But crucial questions about how NSW Police handled the incident (as distinct from the tasering itself) remain unanswered.

Chief among which is the question of when Mrs Nowland’s family was told about what had happened to her.

NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb. Picture: Adam Yip
NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb. Picture: Adam Yip
Catley refused to answer that on Thursday, as did Police.

Her handling of the police tasering is not the only time Catley appears to have been left wanting.

She struggled to defend police after The Daily Telegraph revealed Wayne Smith had his gun licence revoked and then reinstated before he shot and killed his teenage son.

The Minns government later announced a review of how the firearms registry handles people with mental illnesses.

The Coalition smells blood in the water, and is going after the person they see as the weakest link.

Liberal leader Mark Speakman is already calling for Minns to consider sacking Catley. That’s not going to happen, at least for now.

The government argues that the whole line of questioning is an attack on frontline officers, and an attempt to politicise a series of tragic deaths.

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Notably, when asked if he thought the tasering of Clare Nowland was subject to a “police cover up” yesterday, Speakman refused to answer. “I’m concerned about the lack of transparency. These are simple questions that should be easily answered,” he said.

“If it’s said that the public couldn’t be told in a timely way about the tasering because of the need to tell the family, well, when were the family told?” he asked.

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Omitting sensitive details from a media release, on the balance, falls short of a cover up, but the public is entitled to get a full picture of why those decisions were made, and to have questions surrounding the incident answered.

And the Minister needs to give a better explanation of what she knew, and when. These questions are not going to go away.

If Catley doesn’t find a better way to answer them, one has to wonder whether she is up to managing the portfolio she’s been entrusted with.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 23, 2023 2:32 pm

I’m sure Field Marshal mUntgomery can fill in the details. I’m a bit slow checking the mail these days too.

Crossie
Crossie
June 23, 2023 2:43 pm

Tom says:
June 23, 2023 at 11:30 am
Tucker Carlson on Twitter: Episode 6 — Bobby Kennedy junior.

I learned an interesting fact from this episode. James Murdoch is an investor in Vice which is now worth peanuts compared to a few years ago. Rupert’s kids know how to make money.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Bruce of Newcastle says: June 23, 2023 at 9:18 am
Basket of deplorables.

Bud Light: ‘Please Drink Our Beer Again, You Oafish Hicks’ (22 Jun)
Bud Light just ended two months of social media silence with a new online ad designed to win back boycotting customers by portraying them as “bumbling fools,” according to one Twitter critic, and as “buffoon-ish whites,” according to another.

Justhavealookathatadvertisement!
Bud Lite is on our side, they’ve dropped the woke!

That ad showing their drinkers as clumsy buffoons, … is full of white people.

Bud Lite, you subtle devils you! * wink * 😉

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 23, 2023 2:52 pm

Farmer Gez

There are existing powerlines and easements available for use with renewables. The closing of coal generation leaves big transmission lines from those sites under-utilised and available for nearby projects.

Those lines and sites are near the major cities, they wouldn’t want the sensitive residents of inner-city areas to see the destruction on the environment wrought by major wind and solar factories being built near them.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 23, 2023 2:54 pm

Gez if you aren’t doing anything Saturday night I will be in Euston for a bowls tournament. Beers beckon.

Crossie
Crossie
June 23, 2023 2:56 pm

When I was growing up, Italians and Grik men argued loud and long about politics in cafes. Nowadays, I suspect that the growing Indian diaspora are doing the same. Indeed, there have been confrontations in Harris Park (Sydney) which is close to 100% Indian.

We lived in Harris Park over 45 years ago, there were some migrants there at the time though most were in nearby Granville and Merrylands. Different demographics than the current residents and very law abiding.

Indolent
Indolent
June 23, 2023 2:58 pm
Crossie
Crossie
June 23, 2023 2:58 pm

My comment about previous law abiding residents referred to Granville and Merrylands, not Harris Park.

Robert Sewell
June 23, 2023 2:59 pm

SFW:
Yes – it’s fake – the water flowing near the washed away section is flowing under the part, and not being affected by the mass which appears to be just compacted roadway.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 23, 2023 3:03 pm

H B Bearsays:
June 23, 2023 at 2:21 pm
I might ask ABC fact checkers to clarify.

A couple of B J’ism graduates. Check their workings.

Get mUnty to do it.

shatterzzz
June 23, 2023 3:18 pm

Midwinter Ball question- where were the old “we exude power” couple, Chloe Bryce-Whatsherfirsthusbandsname and Bill Shorten?

Lotza pix of Billy & Chloe over at Mail Online …
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12225169/Bill-Shorten-Jim-Chalmers-swap-wives-glamorous-Canberra-event.html

Chris
Chris
June 23, 2023 3:26 pm

The Daily Mail is a fine Australian newspaper these days. Sure beats The West.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 23, 2023 3:30 pm

Sure beats The West.

Jeez that’s a low bar. Only Hardly Normal ads keeping the lights on.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 23, 2023 3:37 pm

Rogersays:

June 23, 2023 at 10:39 am

Stockton Rush saw himself as an oceanic Captain Kirk…

Captain Cook was the oceanic Captain Kirk and the inspiration for the latter.

Stockton Rush was no Captain Cook.

Cap’n Pugwash, more like.

Indolent
Indolent
June 23, 2023 3:45 pm
Lysander
Lysander
June 23, 2023 3:55 pm

Chinese military training facility in Cuba in the works just 100 miles from US shores: WSJ
JUNE 20, 2023 TIMOTHY FRUDD

(americanmilitarynews.com) –
U.S. officials say China and Cuba are working together to negotiate a new joint military training facility, sparking major concerns that Chinese troops could be stationed less than 100 miles from U.S. shores. If the facility is built, the two countries will likely run joint training drills.

The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday that discussions between China and Cuba regarding the proposal for a military training facility on the northern coast of Cuba have reached an advanced stage but have not concluded, according to U.S. intelligence.

According to the Wall Street Journal, the Biden administration has attempted to contact Cuban officials in an effort to stall the deal between China and Cuba. U.S. officials told the Wall Street Journal that the proposed military training facility in Cuba is “convincing but fragmentary” classified intelligence. The Wall Street Journal added that U.S. officials and policy makers presented “different levels of alarm” regarding the new report.

Earlier this month, the Wall Street Journal reported that China and Cuba had agreed on the establishment of an eavesdropping site in Cuba; however, the report was labeled inaccurate by the Biden administration. Nevertheless, just days after the administration labeled the report inaccurate, the White House declassified intelligence that publicly confirmed China has had intelligence collection facilities in Cuba since at least 2019…

Lysander
Lysander
June 23, 2023 3:57 pm
Indolent
Indolent
June 23, 2023 4:05 pm
Kneel
Kneel
June 23, 2023 4:07 pm

“Hunter Biden also has agreed to enter a so-called pretrial diversion agreement in connection with a charge of possession of a firearm by a person who is a user or addict of illegal drugs, according to the filing in U.S. District Court in Delaware.”

Why does the white old man presidents son get a pretrial diversion, even though there is video evidence of him “brandishing” said firearm (which is against the guidelines for such a diversion), while hundreds of black and brown people are in gaol and had their pretrial diversions denied, even when there was no evidence they “brandished” their weapons?
Because his father is boss of the DoJ?
Because the deep state wants to protect Democrats?
Because he is a straight, white male?
Because he can afford high priced lawyers?
All of the above?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

dover0beach says: June 23, 2023 at 3:58 pm
Speedy, I’m with sfw on this. Looking at it on the my desktop suggests its fake.

Likewise.
Scenery aside, the ergonomics aren’t anywhere near realistic.

Roger
Roger
June 23, 2023 4:15 pm

QLD to treat covid-19 like influenza:

“I can announce with the chief health officer that we will be monitoring COVID much like any other respiratory illness,” Health Minister Shannon Fentiman told reporters on Friday.

Meanwhile, it has been calculated that Australia’s covid response debt will take Australians three generations to repay.

And then there’s the excess deaths…

Chris
Chris
June 23, 2023 4:16 pm

Sure beats The West.

Jeez that’s a low bar. Only Hardly Normal ads keeping the lights on.

And the old folks buy it for the crossword puzzle.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 23, 2023 4:17 pm

Justin Trudeau dropped $61,000 in taxpayer money for a 5-star hotel stay to attend an anti-poverty gala in NYC

If there is any one indicator that those comprising the political establishment are nothing more than self-interested wannabe celebrities, you’d be hard-pressed to determine whether it is their over-the-top infatuation with big time actors and reality television personalities, or their devotion to the high life, despite their failure to legitimately earn it.

Nearly two months ago, an organization called Global Citizen held a ritzy, star-studded anti-poverty function in New York City, an event at which Canada’s Justin Trudeau can be seen next to Hollywood heavyweight Hugh Jackman in an embarrassing display of fanboy-ism; see the tweet below:

When you see an aging has-been (a debatable term assuming Trudeau has actually “been”) desperately clamoring for celebrity recognition and relevancy, it’s hard not to feel pity — but this is Trudeau about whom we’re talking, and the context of the photo will have you fuming.

According to a reporter for SaltWire Network:

The prime minister’s trip to a star-studded, two-day summit in New York City cost taxpayers over $61,000 in hotel costs, say newly released documents….

Held in New York City on April 27 and 28, the Global Citizen NOW summit was billed as an opportunity to unite celebrities and activists with business and political leaders — all to take ‘urgent action’ to end extreme poverty.

Need I remind you, Trudeau’s regime is ahead of the power curve with “urgent action” to “end extreme poverty” — it’s already euthanizing Canadian citizens seeking reprieve from the dystopian and distressing world created by the godless behemoth we know as “modern government.” From Daily Mail via an American Thinker piece published this past December:

Canadian blogger Spencer Fernando aptly summed up the whole affair in just 130 cutting words:

In essence, Trudeau’s trip makes it obvious that we are paying for the PM to hobnob with celebrities while we are simultaneously paying for a public service that isn’t at work.

Pay more, get less. That’s Canada under Justin Trudeau. After all, he also tells Canadians we need to sacrifice to save the planet, yet that sacrifice never seems to involve him doing events like the Global Citizen Summit through Zoom instead of flying over there.

Individual rights are being taken away, and we are being told to accept a future that is less prosperous. Meanwhile, when he’s not arrogantly lecturing the rest of us, Justin Trudeau flies around the world and lives it up at our expense.

This is a failing country, and Trudeau is a failed leader.(Could Substitute Australia!)

Vicki
Vicki
June 23, 2023 4:26 pm

For the original work done in the US to disclose the gain-of-function research in China on bat viruses & the very first outbreak of Covid19 in the Wuhan lab:

https://theintercept.com/2023/06/17/covid-origin-wuhan-patient-zero/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Roger
Roger
June 23, 2023 4:29 pm

This is a failing country, and Trudeau is a failed leader.

Of the leaders of anglosphere countries, odds on most likely to end up hanging upside down from a street lamp in a service station forecourt, beaten and bloodied.

There’s a lot of resentment brewing beneath that polite Canadian facade. And the weather is terrible most of the time.

Crossie
Crossie
June 23, 2023 4:30 pm

Mother Lode says:
June 23, 2023 at 1:57 pm
So yesterday was ‘Juneteenth’.

I assume it would be a day when the descendants of slaves offer up thanks to white people for freeing their ancestors from a condition that America inherited rather than instituted.

They should thank Republicans for freeing them from Democrats.

Speedbox
June 23, 2023 4:36 pm

dover0beach says:
June 23, 2023 at 3:58 pm

Yeah, I had a look on a ‘full size’ screen and it definitely looks a bit dodgy. On a small phone size screen it is much more convincing.

Alternatively, you and sfw are suggesting that not everything on Odnoklassniki is the real deal. How dare you!!

🙂

Let me see what else I can find…….

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 23, 2023 4:42 pm

Hello fellow bud light drinkers.
Have you seen the new advertisement to appeal to snaggle toothed sister humping flyover folks like us?
Gives me a real thirst for the blue brew again.
Heeeyawwww
/spits ‘baccy on the ground.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 23, 2023 4:42 pm

Opinion  The FT

The Bank of England’s credibility is still on the line

Half-point rise was a necessary signal of intent to get a grip on inflation – THE EDITORIAL BOARD

The Bank of England came out swinging at inflation — and, implicitly, at its own critics — when it raised interest rates on Thursday by twice what investors had expected. That markets took the move largely in their stride is a sign of how serious they believe Britain’s persistent inflation problem has become.

The 50 basis point increase — taking the base rate to 5 per cent, its highest since 2008 — and the hawkish tone in its accompanying statement were welcome signs of intent to get a grip on soaring prices.

But the BoE needs to do much more to regain the confidence of investors, and households, that it is up to the task.

There is no longer much doubt that Britain is an outlier on inflation. While price growth has fallen recently in the US and eurozone, it stayed stuck at 8.7 per cent in the UK last month. One or two upside wage and inflation surprises earlier this year were easier to look beyond, but these have now become a trend. Core price inflation, which excludes energy and food, rose in May to its highest in more than three decades, but is on its way down in America and Europe.

The BoE can no longer hide behind global price pressures. Britain has its own inflation problem, and misjudgments by the bank’s Monetary Policy Committee have contributed to it.

A priority for central bankers over this rate-raising cycle was to prevent a dreaded “wage price spiral”; when high inflation becomes entrenched as rising prices drive up wage demands in a self-reinforcing process. The chance of this occurring in the UK has greatly increased — annual wage growth recently hit 7.2 per cent — as the BoE has consistently underestimated the risk of price growth becoming persistent. Indeed, in early March, its governor Andrew Bailey signalled that interest rates, then at 4 per cent, were close to their peak. Central bank governors embody their institution, and Bailey has too often appeared to be behind the curve rather than ahead of it.

Britain’s extra-tight job market has not helped. High levels of inactivity and changes to immigration rules post-Brexit have exacerbated staff shortages, which have added to wage pressures.

This is out of the MPC’s control, but its failure to accurately assess the lack of spare capacity in the labour market has only made things worse. The BoE’s recently announced plan to review its forecasting processes will be important to avoid similar errors in the future.

Faith in the bank’s understanding of the economy is crucial to manage the rate and inflation expectations of investors, businesses and households. With each missed forecast, that has started to evaporate. A BoE survey showed public satisfaction in the institution had fallen to an all-time low last month. Financial markets have also nudged their end-of-year rate expectations up to 6 per cent — from about 4.5 per cent at the start of the year. Some analysts do not think they will need to go that high. Either way, markets are likely to price higher for now — representing a premium for the BoE’s past errors — and this influences how commercial banks price mortgages.

The BoE’s bold rate rise, coupled with Bailey’s pledge on Thursday to do “whatever is necessary”, was a step towards getting inflation under control.

But it unfortunately means inflicting more pain on households and businesses and potentially even pushing the economy into a recession — Britain’s cost of living crisis is broadening out into a cost of borrowing crisis.

In coming weeks the MPC, and particularly the governor, will need to convince markets that the bank is resolute.

Further rate rises will need to remain on the table.

Its next meeting and quarterly monetary policy report in August will have to show it understands its errors, and has a handle on Britain’s inflation problem. The credibility of the institution is at stake.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 23, 2023 4:46 pm

You passive aggressive cow, don’t run that line on me.

Oh, moooo, Joh. Why on earth not? I’ve already said that you don’t have to be married to be a sensitive and likeable person. But you attack like an uncomprehending rabid hound. And only me, not others similar.

We don’t exist as islands. You think I am passive aggressive in the face of your attacks, well OK, hold firm to that if it helps you; no skin off my nose. But I’ll tell you what I think. I think you are probably quite lonely and it tells sometimes or my light-hearted marital commentary interspersed with more serious stuff wouldn’t bother you so much. So I’m glad you get supporters here for your outbursts at me. I don’t admire them for encouraging your outbursts, quite the opposite, but I think you need their support far more than I need any (although I do not deserve some the personal denigration I have received here). Perhaps you make these attacks purely to raise the gratifying numbers? A lot of people think, as I do, that in a good mood you are a steady contributor about your own life as well as your political views (I have always said that). I am glad too that Pogria offered you personal help when you broke your arm and that everyone rallied round for you. It is possible to make real friends, with real people, through this blog. And quite possible to scroll by people who irritate you here as well. I have offered the hand of acquaintance to you if desired and when mutually convenient, but that is all.
Time has a very short date for me and I am very busy.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 23, 2023 4:50 pm

the gain-of-function research in China

There’s a very good article in this week’s Speccie by Matt Ridley summarising parts of his latest book on this appalling tinkering, supposedly done in order to find out how engineered viruses can affect humans.

Ridley calls this like looking for a gas leak with a lighted match.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 23, 2023 4:50 pm

Turkey’s central bank brings low-rate era to close with 6.5 percentage point rise

New governor Hafize Gaye Erkan raises benchmark rate from 8.5% to 15%

Turkey raised interest rates for the first time since 2021 and vowed to restore a “free foreign exchange regime” as the country’s new economic leadership shifts away from policies that have sent inflation soaring and investors fleeing.

However, the scale of the increase fell short of expectations of more aggressive action to tackle price pressures, with the lira hitting another record low against the dollar, at 24.5, following the decision.

The central bank, helmed by newly-appointed governor Hafize Gaye Erkan, on Thursday lifted its benchmark one-week repo rate to 15 per cent from 8.5 per cent.

Local business executives and international investment banks had hoped for a bigger increase in borrowing costs to around 20 per cent.

“The rate hike is below expectations, but can be considered as the first of several steps,” said Enver Erkan, chief economist at Istanbul-based brokerage Dinamik Yat?r?m Menkul De?erler.

Many economists say Turkey’s economy is overheating as a result of a sustained period of low interest rates and a barrage of government giveaways ahead of last month’s election.

Rate-setters hinted at further increases in borrowing costs in the coming months, saying they would tighten policy “as much as needed in a timely and gradual manner until a significant improvement in the inflation outlook is achieved”.

Still, former central bank chief economist Hakan Kara said Thursday’s decision “signalled that the priority of the authorities will be growth rather than disinflation in the near term”. He added that, although the central bank had vowed to tighten policy as much as needed, “we are in a period where actions speak louder than words”.

The central bank is hoping to tame a painful cost of living crisis, with inflation running at nearly 40 per cent. The policies pursued by Erdo?an, a staunch opponent of high borrowing costs, have also sent the lira tumbling and added to serious imbalances across the $900bn economy.

While Thursday’s move marked a shift towards more conventional policies, investors warn that Erdo?an, who has led Turkey for two decades, has been down this path before only to shift course. Former central bank governor Naci A?bal was sacked in early 2021 just months into his term after boosting borrowing costs.

Central bank watchers have been betting on a shift in stance from the low-rate policies pushed by President Recep Tayyip Erdo?an since May’s presidential election, which Erdo?an won.

Their optimism has been fuelled by the president’s appointment of Mehmet ?im?ek, an investor-friendly former deputy prime minister, as finance minister and Erkan, a former Goldman Sachs executive, as central bank chief.

?im?ek said after Thursday’s rate decision that Turkey’s economic policies would focus on “sustainable” growth achieved through “rule-based” monetary and fiscal policies. He also said a “free foreign exchange regime” would be vital to luring back investors who have deserted Turkey over recent years.

The country has spent at least $24bn this year defending its currency through state-owned banks, and enacting other measures to push businesses and consumers away from holding and trading foreign currency.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 23, 2023 4:53 pm

You passive aggressive cow, don’t run that line on me.

Oh, moooo, Joh.

COW OFF…. WEVE GOT A COW OFF!!!!

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 23, 2023 4:55 pm

The credibility of the institution is at stake.

There’s a bit of that about at the moment.

Vicki
Vicki
June 23, 2023 4:57 pm

Maybe this has been posted earlier. In any case, it should be read by all. Probably one of best reports on the disgraceful attack on personal freedom by Australian authorities during the Covid years:

Shameful, fearmongering leaders should pay for Covid lockdown insanity
Heavily armed police fire rubber bullets at protesters.

By JOHN STAPLETON

In 2021, Australia descended into its darkest days, a full totalitarian tilt into the abyss of government maladministration, a frightened, disoriented, confused population imprisoned in their own homes, and distrust everywhere.

While a deluded and misinformed Australian public endured what on the face of it was a mass Psyop operation – a deliberately terrified population herded in one direction, towards mass vaccination and a singular loss of ­personal liberties – Australia’s international reputation as a freedom-loving, easygoing holiday destination was being trashed.

In August, that final month of winter, as the Premier of Victoria, Daniel Andrews, plunged the state into its sixth, world record-beating lockdown, the world’s most successful podcaster, American Joe Rogan, lamented of Australia: “There’s some crazy shit going on right now where the army is trying to keep people inside in Australia. They have full-on government lockdowns where the government is flying helicopters over streets saying ‘go back indoors, you’re not allowed outside’.”

Subsequently on Instagram he wrote: “Australia had the worst reaction to the pandemic with dystopian, police-state measures that are truly inconceivable to the rest of the civilised world.”

The lockdowns so beloved by Australia’s politicians were already being decried by academics around the world, and would come to be seen as one of the greatest policy failures in the history of public health. Hostage to vaccine manufacturers and their government collaborators, most of the mainstream media disparaged or ignored the gathering freedom movement around the country.

Across Australia, protesters faced walls of police.

At the same time, the land of kangaroos and koalas, dangerous reptiles, cockatoos, budgerigars and surfers – that Australia of fond myth and legend – was being annihilated.

The international coverage was excoriating. The Qatar-based Aljazeera news, for example, under a prominent picture of protesters carrying a banner reading “Country in Distress”, recorded that there had been nationwide protests on August 21, 2021, with more than 250 people protesting against coronavirus lockdowns in Australia having been arrested and many others facing fines for defying health orders.

“At least seven police officers were treated for injuries after ­skirmishes broke out at some of the demonstrations on Saturday, which took place in multiple cities nationwide. The largest and most violent protest was in Melbourne. Many were organised by people in encrypted online chat groups.”

In Melbourne, police arrested 218 people and issued more than 200 fines, each for $5400, an extremely punitive level. Six Victoria state police officers were hospitalised and three people remained in custody for allegedly assaulting police. Officers used pepper spray on several people, saying in a statement they were left with no choice.

In NSW, police said they arrested 47 people and fined more than 260 in relation to demonstrations across the state. They also issued 137 tickets after stopping about 38,000 vehicles that approached the city. NSW Deputy Commissioner Mal Lanyon said police expected to identify more people through security cameras and social media footage.

In a piece badged “Insanity Down Under”, one of America’s most popular broadcasters, Tucker Carlson at Fox News, gave his take on Australia’s Covid Regulations.

“One thing about Americans, they love Australia,” he told his million-plus followers. Most Americans have never been there, it’s an awful long way away, but when Americans think of Australians, they imagine a freer, tougher version of themselves. Steve Irwin, Crocodile Dundee – that kind of thing.

Melbourne riot police chase after protesters who fled from the Shrine of Remembrance. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Ian Currie
Melbourne riot police chase after protesters who fled from the Shrine of Remembrance. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Ian Currie
“So there is a huge reserve of affection in the United States for Australia, its culture and its people. It’s also possible that most Americans, us included, have not updated our assumptions about Australia in a while and the modern reality is a little different from what we imagine.

“Australia looks a lot like China did at the beginning of the pandemic, that’s the sad truth.

“At the time, our public health officials told us that nothing like that could ever happen in our country or in the West, but that was wrong, because those things are now happening in Australia.”

Carlson then went on to play several clips of scenes in Melbourne. The first is of a wild street melee of running protesters and police. The next clip shows fully kitted out policemen with shields and helmets aggressively punching commuters as they try to enter a train station.

“There is a lot of footage like this from Australia,” Carlson said. “In just two years, the Australian police went from raiding newsrooms to beating people in the streets, so maybe the lesson is, things can change very quickly. One moment, the English-speaking world is mocking China for being dystopian and autocratic; the next moment, they are aping China and hunting people down.”

In Queen Victoria Market, Melbourne continued to enforce strict lockdown measures. Picture: AFP
In Queen Victoria Market, Melbourne continued to enforce strict lockdown measures. Picture: AFP
In stark contrast to the messages of concern and empathy flooding in from around the world, the NSW government went hell for leather to terrify the population. Then police minister David Elliott – a plump, self-satisfied man characteristic of the breed – declared: “There is no doubt that these are the darkest days the ­people of NSW have had to face in nearly a century. But the high rate of vaccination means there is a pathway, a pathway of hope.

“Unfortunately, there will be some obstacles on that pathway and one of those obstacles is the need to restrict public gatherings. So anybody who attends a protest tomorrow is going to be facing the full force of the NSW police force. You will also be endangering the lives of your loved ones. And prolonging this lockdown.”

Conveniently for the authorities, the right to protest had been abolished. A fundamental democratic right gone with the stroke of a pen. And a massive taxpayer-funded fear campaign.

Elliott said he was “sick to death of people flouting the rules”. He told media outlets that it was no coincidence that there had been a “spike” in cases three weeks after thousands of people attended protests in Sydney’s central business district on July 24.

“There is no doubt in my mind at least some of these cases that we are seeing at the moment had their genesis at the protest,” he said. “Which is why, if they try to do it again, the police, with the assistance of any other agency we need, will make sure that the response is the same.”

That is, violent, abusive, authoritarian, and provoking scenes that were now making headlines around the world, so utterly deranged were they.

In NSW, police ask a family to move on at Rushcutters Bay park, Sydney. Picture: AAP
In NSW, police ask a family to move on at Rushcutters Bay park, Sydney. Picture: AAP
A lone woman is also approached by police at Rushcutters Bay. Picture: AAP
A lone woman is also approached by police at Rushcutters Bay. Picture: AAP
On August 16, the entire state, not just Sydney, was plunged into lockdown. Tiny hamlets such as Come By Chance, population 167, in the middle of absolutely nowhere, were equally afflicted as crowded western Sydney suburbs.

Bush poet Banjo Paterson immortalised the town with the words:

“But my languid mood forsook me, when I found a name that took me,

Quite by chance I came across it – ‘Come-by-Chance’ was what I read …”

The joke about Come By Chance was that one half of the town didn’t speak to the other. That’s because there was a cemetery on one side of the road.

Locked down. There wasn’t much else to do there but go to the pub, and you couldn’t do that anymore. Under the new measures, random checkpoints were set up along key streets and roads in Sydney and more riot squad and highway patrol officers descended on the suburbs.

Singles who might want to scratch an increasingly lonely itch had to formally register their “bubble partner” with the government. If they were in a local government area “of concern” they also had to live within 5km of each other.

And there would be absolutely no travel to the regions without a government permit. People who fled Sydney for their holiday homes or to visit friends and relatives in the country were turned back to the city.

The state, the citizenry, everyone was haemorrhaging money. The insanity was everywhere; on the south coast police were knocking on doors to ensure that no one was escaping their places of residence in the city to seek shelter in their beach houses; sending them back to their miserable flats if they were sheltering in place, a place such as their second home.

The rationale? The logic? There was none.

Sprawling suburbs right across ­western Sydney, ultimately ­covering millions of people, were all declared to be “of concern”, including Fairfield, Blacktown, Burwood, Liverpool and Parramatta. There were $5000 on-the-spot fines for a “quarantine breach”, up from $1000. A $5000 penalty also applied for lying on a permit, or for lying to a contact tracer.

The blizzard of announcements included $3000 fines for anyone exercising with more than one other person.

Shopping, exercise and outdoor recreation could be done only in a person’s local government area or within 5km of home.

Polair police helicopter patrols over Manly Beach to ensure people aren’t gathering together. Picture: Sam Ruttyn
Polair police helicopter patrols over Manly Beach to ensure people aren’t gathering together. Picture: Sam Ruttyn
Random security checkpoints on key roads were also increased. Helicopters hovered overhead, ensuring that people were complying with the curfew orders.

It looked like what it was – martial law.

Police handed out more Covid fines in August 2021 than they did in the previous 17 months – 25,687 fines worth $23.9m.

Lanyon declared: “Stay at home unless absolutely necessary. Tomorrow we will have over 1400 police involved in an operation to prevent those people who want to conduct an unlawful protest from doing so.”

The statement from the minister and the commissioner was sent out in a social media message badged NSW Police Force: Poena Premit Comes Culpam. Punishment swiftly follows the crime.

The mass vaccination of the population was never justified and nothing to be proud of. But the perpetrators of this farce – those who used their public office to spread falsehoods, limit liberties and create panic in the population – never faced any penalty.

As history would prove soon enough, the vaccines were neither safe nor effective, nor did they prevent transmission, and nor were they a public good.

They were, however, a massive source of profit for the pharmaceutical companies.

Who knew? And when did they know? They would be the most significant questions as the repercussions sank in, and the ­recriminations began.

Along with many of his fellow perpetrators, from the premier to the health minister and down the ranks, soon enough Elliott would be giving his valedictory address.

Indeed, mea culpa, David Elliott should have been expressing shame, guilt, regret, remorse. And a heartfelt apology.

No such luck.

Vicki
Vicki
June 23, 2023 5:01 pm

The above article is an extract from the new book:

Australia Breaks Apart, by John Stapleton, published this week by A Sense of Place.

Cant wait to read it.

Johnny Rotten
June 23, 2023 5:02 pm

We are galloping towards a disaster. AEMO knows it. When will the political class admit they are wrong and reverse course?

When their heads are on the end of pitchforks.

Lysander
Lysander
June 23, 2023 5:03 pm

That new Bud Lite ad is atrocious.

First you alienate your base by going trans and saying your drinkers aren’t really well educated and they’re rednecks.

Then, you come out with an ad of all Bud Lite drinkers falling over each other and doing stupid shit.

“Way to go” (broke)

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 23, 2023 5:07 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
June 23, 2023 5:10 pm

A few familiar faces rounded up by the Media Watchdog. I heard Alan Finkel spruiking his book on the ALPBC (unsurprisingly). Turns out it made it to print courtesy of the Jewish vanity press. Maaaaate. And a Cat gets a guernsey.

Dot
Dot
June 23, 2023 5:11 pm

A brilliant article by John Stapleton.

A sick joke:

https://www.ag.gov.au/rights-and-protections/human-rights-and-anti-discrimination/human-rights-protections

The Australian Government is committed to protecting and promoting traditional rights and freedoms, including freedom of speech, opinion, religion, association and movement.

MatrixTransform
June 23, 2023 5:17 pm

Yes sailor but how many fathoms …

around 2000

and about 0.7 leagues (which btw, is about 5.5km)

MatrixTransform
June 23, 2023 5:21 pm

leagues … take your pick

Speedbox
June 23, 2023 5:21 pm

Vicki says:
June 23, 2023 at 4:57 pm

Yes, never forgive and never forget what they did to us. And the media’s complicity. Bastards all.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 23, 2023 5:27 pm

COW! wars on again!

Speedbox
June 23, 2023 5:28 pm

MatrixTransform says:
June 23, 2023 at 5:17 pm
and about 0.7 leagues (which btw, is about 5.5km)

What!? That can’t be correct. Jules Verne wrote a book “20,000 leagues under the sea”.

I’m sure I saw it in the non-fiction section of the library next to Dark Emu.

calli
calli
June 23, 2023 5:28 pm

Just scrolled through the comments around the mid-winter ball over breakfast.

My two cents worth…poor, cheap tailoring. Sub standard cloth, poorly cut, no trouble taken with stabilisers and linings and horsehair padding. There’s a world of difference between suits, and they’re made for different occasions and climates. Hence you have the Hong Kong style, with minimal linings and interfaces, giving lightness in warm weather. But…the fabric must be first class.

But a really good suit takes time and lots of money. And a good eye to spot the difference plus a desire to have the best that will last.

I think I know where, psychologically at least, our male politicians fall down. As for the females, they’re just High Street dummies with acres of uncovered, pale and goosebumped flesh. A really good designer could possibly make them look classy, but that isn’t the intent.

Johnny Rotten
June 23, 2023 5:30 pm

The Donald and Elon spying on Jo(ke) Biden – Lol

https://www.tiktok.com/@ricardotovar7181/video/7247131954439572782

Speedbox
June 23, 2023 5:33 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
June 23, 2023 at 5:27 pm
COW! wars on again!

Somebody had to it. Cows with guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5s5qGg01nE

calli
calli
June 23, 2023 5:33 pm

And that’s it for me. Off today to Tenby via St Davids. And perhaps over to Merlin’s city, Carmarthen.

I will let you know if I spot any dragons. I’m surrounded by them in the breakfast room here in Caernarfon. A very handsome red one painted on the wall spouting a little tongue of flame. And he has a smile on his face.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 23, 2023 5:36 pm

calli – I could have used you as a consultant. To me suits were like penguins, they all looked the same. Hated shopping for them, which only happened when they got too shiny or a jacket was left where it couldn’t be recovered from.

C.L.
C.L.
June 23, 2023 5:38 pm

Every woman has to learn to dress in ways men simply don’t (mostly) have to do.

Reminds me of the joke John F. Kennedy told at the Fort Worth breakfast speech that would be his last. After complimenting Mrs Kennedy who had just arrived on the stage in her pink suit and pillbox hat, the President cited the line he once used in Paris – that he was the man who accompanied Jackie Kennedy – before observing that “nobody cares what Lyndon and I wear.”

That said, Lizzie, boys and young men were formerly taught some basics on how to dress. My late father knew how. I don’t mean that he was natty but that certain forms and norms had to be observed. How to tie a tie, the length of the tie (no, Mr Trump), the proper length of a trouser leg vis-a-vis shoes, shoes that were polished – always… and so on. When he told Mum after I visited him in hospital towards the end that I “could wear clothes,” it was a very moving compliment.

C.L.
C.L.
June 23, 2023 5:38 pm

Loving the travelogue, Calli.

Frank
Frank
June 23, 2023 5:43 pm

Men’s fashion has all but died since they started wearing lycra stockings. It will be a business suit with no tie and the shirt unbuttoned to expose the chest rug next. Oh, wait.

Roger
Roger
June 23, 2023 5:44 pm

…boys and young men were formerly taught some basics on how to dress.

And girls studied deportment.

“The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.”

Dot
Dot
June 23, 2023 5:48 pm

Indeed, mea culpa, David Elliott should have been expressing shame, guilt, regret, remorse. And a heartfelt apology.

Should he return his Victoria Cross for Uganda?

Dot
Dot
June 23, 2023 5:50 pm

Tee hee

David Andrew Elliott (born 11 June 1970) is an openly reptilian, retired politician

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Elliott_(politician)

calli
calli
June 23, 2023 5:51 pm

Even the New Broom knows how to tie a tie correctly. Young men seem oblivious as to how attractive they can be to the right type of woman if they’re well turned out.

All the men in my life know the allure of smartness and polish. I am fortunate.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 23, 2023 5:53 pm

H B Bearsays:

June 23, 2023 at 5:36 pm

calli – I could have used you as a consultant. To me suits were like penguins, they all looked the same. Hated shopping for them, which only happened when they got too shiny or a jacket was left where it couldn’t be recovered from.

I eventually found a brand in David Jones which fitted me well, held it’s shape and wore well.
Man, I used to wear those things until the edges of the pockets frayed and the arse and elbows were as shiny as my shoes should have been.
I think I stopped wearing suits and ties to work in the early ’00’s.
Almost no-one wears them, even to weddings and funerals anymore.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 23, 2023 5:56 pm

Best tie story comes from my bank days. New corporate wardrobe came out for customer facing staff. One guy bought a few ties and sent them through to his brother at another branch via the internal bag to get them tied.

Frank
Frank
June 23, 2023 5:56 pm

Almost no-one wears them [suits], even to weddings and funerals anymore.

Ridiculous affectations they are, nothing wrong with a nice tracksuit and an Adidas man purse.

Dot
Dot
June 23, 2023 5:58 pm

Best tie story comes from my bank days. New corporate wardrobe came out for customer facing staff. One guy bought a few ties and sent them through to his brother at another branch via the internal bag to get them tied.

This is Seinfeldian in its simultaneous stupidity and brilliance.

Roger
Roger
June 23, 2023 6:02 pm

I think I stopped wearing suits and ties to work in the early ’00’s.
Almost no-one wears them, even to weddings and funerals anymore.

What men of a previous generation who had to wear a suit every working day secretly dreamed of:

To go home and wear shorts forever
in the enormous paddocks, in that warm climate,
adding a sweater when winter soaks the grass,

to camp out along the river bends
for good, wearing shorts, with a pocketknife,
a fishing line and matches,

or there where the hills are all down, below the plain,
to sit around in shorts at evening
on the plank verandah;

If the cardinal points of costume
are Robes, Tat, Rig and Scunge,
where are shorts in this compass?

They are never Robes
as other bareleg outfits have been:
the toga, the kilt, the lava-lava
the Mahatma’s cotton dhoti;

archbishops and field marshals
at their ceremonies never wear shorts.
The very word
means underpants in North America.

Shorts can be Tat,
Land-Rovering bush-environmental tat,
socio-political ripped-and-metal-stapled tat,
solidarity-with-the-Third World tat tvam asi,

likewise track-and-field shorts worn to parties
and the further humid, modelling negligee
of the Kingdom of Flaunt,
that unchallenged aristocracy.

More plainly climatic, shorts
are farmers’ rig, leathery with salt and bonemeal;
are sailors’ and branch bankers’ rig,
the crisp golfing style
of our youngest male National Costume.

Most loosely, they are Scunge,
ancient Bengal bloomers or moth-eaten hot pants
worn with a former shirt,
feet, beach sand, hair
and a paucity of signals.

Scunge, which is real negligee
housework in a swimsuit, pyjamas worn all day,
is holiday, is freedom from ambition.
Scunge makes you invisible
to the world and yourself.

The entropy of costume,
scunge can get you conquered by more vigorous cultures
and help you notice it less.

To be or to become
is a serious question posed by a work-shorts counter
with its pressed stack, bulk khaki and blue,
reading Yakka or King Gee, crisp with steely warehouse odour.

Satisfied ambition, defeat, true unconcern,
the wish and the knack of self-forgetfulness
all fall within the scunge ambit
wearing board shorts of similar;
it is a kind of weightlessness.

Unlike public nakedness, which in Westerners
is deeply circumstantial, relaxed as exam time,
artless and equal as the corsetry of a hussar regiment,

shorts and their plain like
are an angelic nudity,
spirituality with pockets!
A double updraft as you drop from branch to pool!

Ideal for getting served last
in shops of the temperate zone
they are also ideal for going home, into space,
into time, to farm the mind’s Sabine acres
for product and subsistence.

Now that everyone who yearned to wear long pants
has essentially achieved them,
long pants, which have themselves been underwear
repeatedly, and underground more than once,
it is time perhaps to cherish the culture of shorts,

to moderate grim vigour
with the knobble of bare knees,
to cool bareknuckle feet in inland water,
slapping flies with a book on solar wind
or a patient bare hand, beneath the cadjiput trees,

to be walking meditatively
among green timber, through the grassy forest
towards a calm sea
and looking across to more of that great island
and the further tropics.

The Dream Of Wearing Shorts Forever
by Les Murray (Modern Australia’s Poet Laureate, in my book.)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 23, 2023 6:02 pm

Ridiculous affectations they are, nothing wrong with a nice tracksuit and an Adidas man purse.

Sadly, this conversation will end with someone saying that white Levis jackets and Adidas boxing boots qualifies as formal wear.

Lysander
Lysander
June 23, 2023 6:04 pm
Muddy
Muddy
June 23, 2023 6:05 pm

I’m placing the following here, as it might end up derailing Rafe’s Tom Wills thread.

A certain commenter on the above-mentioned thread declared that the Queensland Native Police are suspected of murdering at least 41,000 indigenous people. That’s not a small number.

Considering the Qld. Native Police existed for 55 years (1849 – 1904), that means they killed an average of 745 of their fellow indigenes per year; just over 14 per week. Week in, week out.

I haven’t yet found how many native police there were – detachments apparently averaged 8 or 9 natives and one European officer (though the source here is their ABCess) – but the total seems to suggest a high degree of efficiency, not only in tracking and killing (natural shots or excellent training?), but in the logistics (travel, food supply, ammunition supply, etc) that would allow the former.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 23, 2023 6:07 pm

A really good designer could possibly make them look classy, but that isn’t the intent.

I suspect they far overestimate their charms and also make that mistake of carefully posing in front of the mirror and thinking they will look that good all night – whereas in reality, as they affect as best they may a sashay across the floor, their bingo wings flap like unbound sails of old ships in a storm and their cleavage resembles two great blobs of multigrain bread dough pushed together.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 23, 2023 6:08 pm

A Brisbane primary school parents’ association has been slammed for “extreme wokeism” after voting to remove house names and logos – representing early Australian explorers – from its sports uniforms.

Graceville State School Parents and Citizens’ Association approved the removal of its Cook, Flinders and Kennedy house names and logos from the sports uniform at a meeting earlier this year.

Courier-Mail

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 23, 2023 6:12 pm

Daily Mail is running a piece – seems some Labor Senators have to ask their advisers whether Aborigines are Australian citizens…..

Cassie of Sydney
June 23, 2023 6:15 pm

Here are some “trans activists” the pervert apologist supports, good to see the Melbourne University vice-chancellor finally grow a spine..

Uni of Melbourne VC slams balaclava-wearing transgender activists over campus vandalism
By ROSEMARY NEILL

University of Melbourne vice-chancellor Duncan Maskell has slammed “disgraceful” campus vandalism by balaclava-wearing transgender activists, who were apparently targeting outspoken feminist philosopher Holly Lawford-Smith, and has referred the matter to police.

In a hard-hitting statement sent to the university’s staff on Friday afternoon, Mr Maskell warned: “The type of criminal behaviour seen last night has the potential to incite further physical and psychological harassment, endangering people’s well-being and safety, and it needs to stop right now.’’

The Australian understands that around midnight on Thursday, two activists smashed windows and sprayed graffiti with words to the effect “Trans, we are not safe’’ across the university’s Sidney Myer Asia Centre Building in Swanston Street in inner Melbourne.

Mr Maskell said: “Two individuals were caught on CCTV purposefully damaging university property and putting up graffiti pertaining to transgender issues. This activity follows the distribution of material on our campuses and social media platforms recently that seeks to vilify individual members of our community. This type of behaviour is completely unacceptable and stands in direct opposition to the values we hold as a university.

“Let me be unequivocally clear – such intentional acts of damage, violence or vilification against others will not be tolerated. Resorting to violence and causing damage on our campuses is disgraceful.’’

The vandalism occurred as the university prepares to post security guards outside feminist philosophy lectures by gender critical feminist and University of Melbourne associate professor, Holly Lawford-Smith, which start next week. Security guards were requested by Ms Lawford-Smith, who believes that biological sex is more important than gender identity – after she and her students were subjected to what she calls an “authoritarian” and “gross” boycott by self-described transphobia activists.

These activists urged students to boycott Ms Lawford-Smith’s lectures, and they put up posters around campus declaring, “Only a fascist takes feminism”, “Are you on the side of fascists?’’ and “Our demands: Transphobes and Nazis off campus”.

The attempted boycott, by an anonymous group called Fight Transphobia UniMelb, followed Ms Lawford-Smith’s attendance at the recent Melbourne Let Women Speak rally that was gate-crashed by neo-Nazis. After that rally, she was twice investigated by Melbourne University, and cleared both times.

“I hate it,’’ the academic said of the campaign targeting her students. “It’s really inappropriate. It should never have gone beyond me. It’s really unfair on them. They shouldn’t have to be fearful about ideas at any university. It’s just so authoritarian and gross.’’ She said “this is the first time they (activists) have targeted other students’’ and revealed that in 2021, activists targeted tutors teaching her courses.

The philosopher, who was overseas when the vandalism occurred, earlier lodged a formal complaint with WorkSafe Victoria, alleging that Melbourne University has failed to uphold academic freedom and provide her with a safe work environment.

She said her intensive feminism course, which runs for three weeks, mostly deals with disagreements within second-wave feminism over issues such as prostitution, beauty and “sex abolitionism versus gender abolitionism’’. “There is one lecture called trans/gender and that’s on whether gender identity should replace sex for all purposes,’’ she said. She said she looks at the question of gender identity “from both sides” in the course, adding: “In general you don’t ever teach from your perspective.’’

One of Ms Lawford-Smith’s students, who did not want to be named, said posters labelling those who take the feminist philosophy class as “fascists” were “certainly defamatory; a sort of targeted reputational attrition, or smear campaign’’. This student was both relieved and dumbfounded at “the sheer absurdity of this escapade having come to a point of a class teaching feminism requiring security’’.

Another feminism student said: “(It) strikes me as rather ironic that the group which advocates for respectfully addressing others according to the ways they identify … is so aggressive in labelling others (who presumably don’t identify as fascists).” When this student spoke to The Australian earlier this month, he said: “There are posters everywhere slandering Holly Lawford-Smith and her students. I think it’s great that the university is upholding its free speech value and not caving in to activist pressure. But I don’t think it’s done enough to defuse the hostility she’s faced.’’

Mr Maskell said the safety of transgender people was “a constant and deep concern for the university’’ but that “resorting to this kind of violent behaviour (vandalism) is never the right answer, especially in the context of an inclusive university environment where the freedom to express ideas and speech must be fostered and not shut down.’’

Ms Lawford-Smith estimates that only a handful of people are involved in the “hardcore” protests. She said many students were “absolutely fed up and don’t agree with it’’ but fear being targeted by trans activists, resulting in a “false consensus’’.

The vandalism and security guard developments follows Melbourne University’s recent adoption of its first LGBTQIA+ inclusion action policy, which invites students to give “feedback related to curriculum and assessment that may impact the wellbeing of student cohorts from diverse backgrounds’’.

Ms Lawford-Smith feared this policy may be used as a “bludgeon” to target gender critical feminists. She said the university was “cheerfully introducing” formal processes for “complaining against teaching you don’t like … For me it feels very obvious and targeted. Who else are LGBTQIA+ students going to be complaining about?’’ However, a university spokesperson said: “Any students who wish to provide feedback on curriculum … at the University of Melbourne can follow this process’’.

In 2021, the radical feminist started a website, No Conflict They Said.Org encouraging anonymous posters to document their experiences of trans women, including biological males who transition under self-ID laws, accessing spaces such as women’s toilets, changing rooms, rape shelters and sports teams. Almost 100 academics signed a petition calling the website “transphobic”, but the university cleared her of wrongdoing.

In a statement on its website, Fight Transphobia UniMelb takes responsibility for the boycott posters and claims “Lawford-Smith’s actions have directly harmed trans and gender-diverse people’’. The website says students “taking her subject enables the university to legitimate and fund the harm’’. The group apologised to students who felt intimidated by their actions.”

Morsie
Morsie
June 23, 2023 6:16 pm

Re the Global Citizen event referred to above,it is an organisation started by former Young Australian of the Year Huw Evans and now seems to be worldwide doing all sorts of things.
I note however that in 2021 it’s income of $1 million in Australia was exceeded by overheads including $425K to young Mr Evans.I am sure he picked up other remuneration overseas.Does great things but very very well paid.

Chris
Chris
June 23, 2023 6:18 pm

I suspect they far overestimate their charms and also make that mistake of carefully posing in front of the mirror and thinking they will look that good all night

Alternatively, they are under no illusions that they are supermodels, and just dress to have a fun night.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I do not believe it is possible to trump this story:

H B Bear says: June 23, 2023 at 5:56 pm
Best tie story comes from my bank days. New corporate wardrobe came out for customer facing staff. One guy bought a few ties and sent them through to his brother at another branch via the internal bag to get them tied.

Classic!

Gilas
Gilas
June 23, 2023 6:26 pm

For the more kultur-ed folks out there.. fresh off the blocks, the 1st Round of the XVII International Tchaikovsky Competition
In a direct contrast to the West’s head-first descent into the Dark Ages, the two presenters are impeccably dressed.
As well, Irina is a real babe..

On this topic, the Sydney International Piano Competition is starting on 5th July at the Sydney Con.
Only a shadow of the Tchaikovsky, really.. but Australia’s only truly international musical event.
Tickets still available and relatively cheap, compared to the usual price-gouging Ozzies have enjoyed and loved for decades.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 23, 2023 6:27 pm

Muddy is a CockSmoker.

Indolent
Indolent
June 23, 2023 6:30 pm

This is from 2014 discussing a book by Thomas Piketty called Capital in the Twenty-First Century. Highly of prescient.

What the 1% Don’t Want You to Know

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 23, 2023 6:30 pm

Muddy is a CockSmoker.

Another well thought out, erudite post from Grogarly, to enlighten us all……

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 23, 2023 6:32 pm

Ed Casesays:

June 23, 2023 at 6:27 pm

Muddy is a CockSmoker.

No doubt you have first hand evidence.

Dot
Dot
June 23, 2023 6:41 pm

Piketty is full of shit. He didn’t count things like health insurance and retirement plans as “income”.

https://www.econlib.org/archives/2014/03/pikettys_dodge.html

MatrixTransform
June 23, 2023 6:42 pm

* Having spoken to a few old hairy lesbians at the Let Women Speak rally here in Sydney in March of this year, I can attest that they are actually very nice, mostly harmless, and more than a few are taking several red, white and blue pills, because as one said to me, after fifty years of voting left (since Goof), she now votes Liberal.

Cassie, not having a go at you per se.
however, I’m just gonna use your commentary as a launching place …

old hairy lesbians, and the latest cohort of slightly less hairy ones, are nice only to your face
they are invariably very political and that politic is invariably Marxist
just the way it is.

you outta have close look at exactly what the kiddies have been taught up the universities. Every single bit of it is grounded in Marx. Go and read their coursework and correct their essays … report back.

their trick is to use high sounding concepts like equity and inclusion to seem deeply social and noble and so that the weak minded don’t ever both looking at what they really do. Which, is to seek power, corrupt institutions, undermine where possible ‘the patriarchy’, and subvert as quick as they can, the kiddies.

If they can root them they will, but generally they’re happy enough if the kiddies just adopt their idiot politic . Those moles stick together alright. Don’t be fooled by their smiles

my issue with girly-girls and every-nanna is that because of their natural womanly nature, they have chosen to believe all the high sounding and alleged socially positive ‘advertising’ rubbish the feminists spout.

with a foot in each camp, it never really bothered youse that there was a war on boys.
‘me-too’ seemed reasonable … after all it’s very plausible
‘believe all women’ … sure they’d never lie
the list is 30 years long

and youse only just worked it out recently … when youse found out that apparently you-can’t-let-women-speak

turns out they care about Communism much more than they care about ‘women’

my problem with normal women, is that they are largely, enablers who let this situation happen because :-
1 – it sounded like it would be a net positive for them
2- they didn’t really give a shit about who it harmed …because it wasn’t them

I believe it’s call Feeding the Crocodile

hence my commentary a while back about that youtube video after the Let Women Speak debacles where the hairy lesbians were busy trying to put that rainbow-genie back in the bottle

Cassie, as much as I loved your rant … you ranted to the wrong people

and those people sold you up the river too.

Dot
Dot
June 23, 2023 6:46 pm

Just say no to Thomas Piketty. He’s totally wrong.

https://www.heritage.org/report/understanding-thomas-piketty-and-his-critics

However, the best critiques of Piketty have shown that most of the links in his argument are broken. Piketty’s model does not match his data as well as he claims. His model has two implausible assumptions that, when corrected, eliminate his prediction of permanently rising wealth and wealth inequality. His recommendation of punitive taxes is based on the glib assumption that capital accumulation is unimportant for wage growth, an assumption at odds with the data and even with his own model.

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His solution to curtailing the attainment of new fortunes is a top marginal income tax rate around 80 percent on incomes above $500,000 or $1 million.[27] Recalling the high-growth, high-tax postwar decades in the U.S., Piketty does not believe such a high rate of income tax would negatively affect the economy.

Yet taking $0.80 of every additional dollar top earners make would undoubtedly have strong negative ramifications on the economy.[28] Those top earners make those large amounts of money because they are highly productive. They would cut back on how much they work because putting in the extra hours, only to have the government confiscate almost everything extra they earn, would not be appealing. Spread across the more than 1 million workers to whom the high rate would apply, this tax would reduce the hours worked by the top earners, significantly hurting the economy.

The 80 percent rate would also cripple businesses that pay their taxes through the individual income tax system, known as pass-throughs. The most successful of these important job creators would see almost all of their income go to taxes, leaving them with little left over to reinvest into their businesses and create new jobs.

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The second prong of Piketty’s tax plan is a global annual tax of 1 percent on wealth over 1 million euros (approximately $1.3 million) and 2 percent on wealth above 5 million euros (approximately $6.8 million).[30] It would need to be global to stop the wealthy from escaping to places where the tax did not apply. Aside from the immense impracticality of levying such a tax,[31] it would have devastating economic effects.

Piketty is not proposing to repeal any taxes before implementing the wealth tax. For instance, in the U.S., capital gains, dividends, and corporate taxes would remain in effect. Corporate investment is already double taxed in the U.S., first at the corporate level and then at the individual level with capital gains or dividends. (Piketty admits as much, but claims that the double taxation is important nonetheless because it acts as “withholding.”[32])

Assuming that capital returns 4 percent gross, following Piketty’s estimate, and that the U.S. implemented a wealth tax of 2 percent, the taxes on investment in this case, now three layers deep, would be 104 percent.[33]

Taxing away more than the total returns to capital would grind investment to a halt and would cause the value of existing capital to drop precipitously. Working capital would become very scarce—scarce enough that the total return on investment would be as large as it had been before. That would mean drastically lower incomes for everyone in the economy, not just the previously wealthy.

Piketty’s tax plan would eviscerate the fortunes of the wealthiest, while making everyone living in the countries that adopt it considerably poorer because those economies would crumble. Anyone concerned with inequality should abhor such a perverse result.

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He’s a monster and an incompetent one at that.

Pogria
Pogria
June 23, 2023 6:47 pm

It was sad to hear about Titan’s demise but, as someone stated upthread, the only one to feel sorry for is the seventeen year old boy.
I found this for those of you who would like a visual exemplar of what went down.

The Titan mess brought to mind the Space Shuttle Challenger. 🙁

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 23, 2023 6:48 pm

Alternatively, they are under no illusions that they are supermodels, and just dress to have a fun night.

Seriously?

The problem is they wear the clothes of models.

As noted earlier, for example, a judicious sleeve forgives a multitude of eye-bleach.

Indolent
Indolent
June 23, 2023 6:51 pm

New World Odor™
@hugh_mankind

Canadians will be blocked from accessing news articles on Facebook and Instagram after the Trudeau gov passed Bill C-18 on Thursday.

Essentially, only MSM “news” outlets will be available in their feeds, and all independent media outlets have been silenced.

OTTAWA, June 22 (Reuters) – Meta Platforms Inc (META.O) plans to end access to news on Facebook and Instagram for all users in Canada once a parliament-approved legislation requiring internet giants to pay news publishers comes into effect, the company said on Thursday.

The legislation, known as the Online News Act, was approved by the Senate upper chamber earlier on Thursday and will become law after receiving royal assent from the governor general, a formality.

Facebook to end news access in Canada over incoming law on paying publishers

Indolent
Indolent
June 23, 2023 6:54 pm

Jordan Petersen

Just Stop Renewables

Roger
Roger
June 23, 2023 6:56 pm

Having spoken to a few old hairy lesbians at the Let Women Speak rally here in Sydney in March of this year, I can attest that they are actually very nice, mostly harmless, and more than a few are taking several red, white and blue pills, because as one said to me, after fifty years of voting left (since Goof), she now votes Liberal.

The Liberal Party will take this as confirmation their drive to the left is paying electoral dividends.

cohenite
June 23, 2023 6:57 pm

Another week done and the US and Australia are still shit.

Roger
Roger
June 23, 2023 6:58 pm

Canadians will be blocked from accessing news articles on Facebook and Instagram after the Trudeau gov passed Bill C-18 on Thursday.

See upthread re angry Canadians.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 23, 2023 6:58 pm

Graceville State School Parents and Citizens’ Association approved the removal of its Cook, Flinders and Kennedy house names and logos from the sports uniform at a meeting earlier this year.
They could pick more inspiring names for Primary kids than 2 blokes who were speared and another who died in a French dungeon.
I suggest [Don] Bradman, [Jerry] Jerome and [Harry] Murray.

Dot
Dot
June 23, 2023 7:00 pm

Found (some of) the data in a roundabout way. From CNBC, quoting Pew:

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/21/benefits-can-be-as-valuable-as-a-big-paycheck.html

Someone earning roughly $15 per hour, for example, receives benefits worth another $6.10 per hour. The report found a quarter of those workers received less than $4 in added benefits, however, while another quarter received more than $8.

If you ignore an average of 28% of people’s total compensation package as well as payroll taxes and other mandatory on-costs, then, of course, you can imagine that people were wealthier in 1970 than now and that higher taxes are going to make everything better and this will punish employers for not rewarding productivity.

[I’m not disagreeing that housing is overpriced in Australia; the taxes on building a new 1,000,000 dollar dwelling in NSW could amount to 450,000 AUD, and your disposable income only exists after it has income tax withheld].

If you ignore the data and empirical results (failed statistical models & impossible matrix algebra) then you too can believe Piketty and Marx.

miltonf
miltonf
June 23, 2023 7:01 pm

I think Piketty is just there to give academic respectability to gubmints printing money.

Muddy
Muddy
June 23, 2023 7:02 pm

Muddy is a CockSmoker.

I normally poach or fry my chicken.
Unimaginative, I know, but simplicity works for me.

rosie
rosie
June 23, 2023 7:04 pm

I noticed Barnababy’s trousers needed taking up.
but still I like a nice suit and you still see them in Europe.
My youngest son has several and looks good in all of them.
Not many occasions to wear them though.
The slogan ball gown is becoming a little boring.

cohenite
June 23, 2023 7:08 pm

I firmly believe, after the latest revelations about the bidens, that hunter could root a donkey in Times Square with joe selling tickets and nothing would happen to them. It’s really weird; after that pencil necked slimebag adam schiff was censured by the GOP house his fellow demorats gathered around him and had a cheer fest; looking at them you could not believe they were human.

Indolent
Indolent
June 23, 2023 7:08 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 23, 2023 7:09 pm

and another who died in a French dungeon.

You really do know fvck-all about history, don’t you?

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 23, 2023 7:09 pm

Just say no to Thomas Piketty. He’s totally wrong.

That seems to be the consensus of everything I’ve read. I believe he’s popular in Europe which isn’t a good start.

miltonf
miltonf
June 23, 2023 7:10 pm

looking at them you could not believe they were human.

Agree. It’s hard to believe such evil, repulsive, human trash exist let alone sit in congress.

MatrixTransform
June 23, 2023 7:12 pm

What!? That can’t be correct. Jules Verne wrote a book

Nautilus is Cptn Nemo’s submarine from Jules Verne’s novels

I think he meant distance not depth

Roger
Roger
June 23, 2023 7:13 pm

I firmly believe, after the latest revelations about the bidens, that hunter could root a donkey in Times Square with joe selling tickets and nothing would happen to them.

Even a worm will turn.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 23, 2023 7:16 pm

A Brisbane primary school parents’ association has been slammed for “extreme wokeism” after voting to remove house names and logos – representing early Australian explorers – from its sports uniforms.

…was accompanied by a poll:

Should early Australian explorers be cancelled?
Yes 3 %
No 97 %
Unsure 0 %
1,484 votes

If the stupid Liberal party could only see, the average Aussie is heartily sick of woke crap, and if they adhered to their original values they could take advantage of it. But they won’t – so where is the new party for these people?

Roger
Roger
June 23, 2023 7:16 pm

LIBERTY QUOTE

[Feminism] is mixed up with a muddled idea that women are free when they serve their employers but slaves when they help their husbands.

— G. K. Chesterton

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
June 23, 2023 7:19 pm

To go home and wear shorts forever

After reading this one line I immediately knew it was Les Murray,
God Bless his cotton socks.
Delightful !

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 23, 2023 7:19 pm

American politics certainly took a turn for the worse after the Magic Negro.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 23, 2023 7:20 pm

The slogan ball gown is becoming a little boring.

AIC has the distinction of making something a cliche on its very first outing.

As for suits, a properly fitting suit is infinitely more comfortable than jeans and fashionable ‘in’ jacket.

And, as I have said before, I still prefer a tie. A properly tied tie cannot be faked because it must be done each time it is put on. A proper dimple is an added technique that can’t be faked.

A pocket square is popular these days adds to a textural touch to a suit but it is away from the face. And most guys seem to go for the square fold even with silk.

Meh, but that’s me.

Oh, and don’t get me started on colognes and scents!

MatrixTransform
June 23, 2023 7:21 pm

I cant link to Dan Andrews’ boozy FaceBook post but I just read the comments on my missus’ phone.

…not bad Melbournians. Not Bad

Roger
Roger
June 23, 2023 7:22 pm

…so where is the new party for these people?

That ‘nature abhors a vacuum’ applies as much in politics as in physics.

It will happen, as it is internationally, but Australia always lags behind the trend.

cohenite
June 23, 2023 7:22 pm

This just turned up so I don’t know if it’s been mentioned; apparently Musk and the spacechook alien have agreed to a cage match. This worries me. I think the Earth is at stake here.

Roger
Roger
June 23, 2023 7:25 pm

After reading this one line I immediately knew it was Les Murray,
God Bless his cotton socks. Delightful !

If I have prompted one person here to buy a volume of Murray’s poems I have justified drawing precious breath today.

Not that I needed to, life being a gift and all…

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 23, 2023 7:29 pm

If the stupid Liberal party could only see, the average Aussie is heartily sick of woke crap, and if they adhered to their original values they could take advantage of it. But they won’t – so where is the new party for these people?

Nailed it.

If only the dickheads could see what is so bloody bleeding obvious.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 23, 2023 7:35 pm

I think Piketty is just there to give academic respectability to gubmints printing money.

As Keynes tacitly did. Not necessarily that it was what he tacitly said, but it was something governments were desperately keen to tacitly hear.

areff
areff
June 23, 2023 7:41 pm

American politics certainly took a turn for the worse after the Magic Negro.

“Barack the magic negro lived in DC…”

From the much-missed Rush Limbaugh’s music maestro Paul Shanklin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N08ZIsSPKuo

Bruce in WA
June 23, 2023 7:48 pm

And the old folks buy it for the crossword puzzle.

Oi, you! I resemble that remark!

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 23, 2023 7:50 pm

If the stupid Liberal party could only see, the average Aussie is heartily sick of woke crap, and if they adhered to their original values they could take advantage of it. But they won’t – so where is the new party for these people?

Nailed it.
Huh?
Maybe in 1958, but these days the average voting Aussie has drank the Kool Aid.
The Liberal Party has got to take them seriously to have any chance of returning to Government.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 23, 2023 7:50 pm

Canadians will be blocked from accessing news articles on Facebook and Instagram after the Trudeau gov passed Bill C-18 on Thursday.

VPNs will explode. I happen to use a Canadian VPN, they work just fine.
Guacamole is fun, but probably not for lefty pollies.

areff
areff
June 23, 2023 7:53 pm

At least there are no didjeridoos. AFL now starting tonight’s game by hailing a bloke who topped himself.

Great example to the kids.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 23, 2023 8:00 pm

Oh fark off Ed – loonie

MatrixTransform
June 23, 2023 8:00 pm

the average voting Aussie has drank the Kool Aid

these days the average politician has too

the Liberal Party’s anodyne gibber (especially in Vic) shows exactly what vacuous tossers they are

spineless clowns

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
June 23, 2023 8:01 pm

Just catching up on some 3AW podcasts. Neil Mitchel, to his credit, highlighted that the Gobbo imbroglio. All the scandal, recommendations from investigations and then … nothing.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 23, 2023 8:08 pm

AFL now starting tonight’s game by hailing a bloke who topped himself.

Can’t understand this crap saying what a great bloke he was and how we have to understand his problems.

Took the cowards way out. Leaving the problems to his wife and children.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 23, 2023 8:12 pm

Took the cowards way out. Leaving the problems to his wife and children.

Who is the dead guy?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 23, 2023 8:15 pm

Who is the dead guy?

Dan Frawley – “Spud”.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 23, 2023 8:15 pm

Friday night football isn’t the best for people with suicidal tendencies. Especially the Ch 7 commentary.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 23, 2023 8:17 pm

Drove his car into a bloody big tree.
Sook.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 23, 2023 8:18 pm

Please, no comments about the effect of years coaching Richmond and mental health. Thank you.

MatrixTransform
June 23, 2023 8:23 pm

that bloody Asko oven has a mind of its own.

open the door and it randomly shuts off.

just for kicks it sometimes adds the kiddie lock as well

just to shit me

I’m like Dennis Denuto trying to bake potatoes

… nearly done

areff
areff
June 23, 2023 8:25 pm

I wonder, just as an experiment, if you could get Richmond to apologise for Captain Blood telling Doug Nichols to “eff off. You Abos aren’t allowed here”. The remark came on the train to Perth when both were heading to the Vic vs WA match and Pastor Doug approached his teammates while they were playing cards.

I reckon a few emails, some tweets and a Facebook post or two would be enough to spark an outburst of grovelling self-abasement.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 23, 2023 8:39 pm

There is a certain moral decadence abroad in society that regardless of suffering a person might inflict on others, if they have also suffered, then they are outright heroes.

The one’s tragedy cancels out and eclipses all others’.

A smacked our driver who was not hugged enough as a child crosses the median strip and wipes out your family? Well the ultimate cause is that the smack head was not hugged enough. They were the real victim. And your family is just part of their tragedy.

Some people really believe this shit.

Crossie
Crossie
June 23, 2023 8:39 pm

calli says:
June 23, 2023 at 5:51 pm
Even the New Broom knows how to tie a tie correctly. Young men seem oblivious as to how attractive they can be to the right type of woman if they’re well turned out.

All the men in my life know the allure of smartness and polish. I am fortunate.

This calls for the right sort of song.

Sharp Dressed Man

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 23, 2023 8:41 pm

BHP donates $2m to Indigenous Voice to Parliament ‘yes’ campaign, reveals new Reconciliation Action Plan
Adrian Lowe
The West Australian
Fri, 23 June 2023 3:28PM
Adrian Lowe

3:20 | The West Australian

Mining giant BHP has donated $2 million to the Yes campaign for the Indigenous Voice to Parliament referendum as it urges respect in discussions about the proposal.

BHP follows Rio Tinto, which made public its donation of the same amount earlier this month, while other top ASX companies such as National Australia Bank and the Commonwealth Bank have donated or stated an intent to do so. Others still have pledged to support the campaign but have not confirmed financial support.

At a corporate level BHP has been a long-standing supporter of a constitutionally enshrined Voice to Parliament but is stopping short of directing staff how to vote.

“We will support informed, respectful discussion within our company and more broadly about the Voice, why it has been proposed and what it is seeking to address,” BHP Minerals Australia president Geraldine Slattery said on Friday.

“We will provide opportunities for employees to get the information they need and feel safe to discuss different views with their colleagues and communities, so they can make their own informed decision.”

BHP has supported the Uluru Statement from the Heart — which includes the constitutional recognition via a Voice to Parliament — since 2019.

BHP’s confirmation of its donation came as it launched a new Reconciliation Action Plan, its most ambitious to date. The miner has committed to having nearly 10 per cent of its Australian workforce Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander by June 30, 2027 — up from 8.3 per cent now.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 23, 2023 8:45 pm

All the men in my life know the allure of smartness and polish. I am fortunate.

I have always received more compliments for neckties than anything else.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 23, 2023 8:45 pm

From the Tom Wills thread

Mrs Fraser’s son was notorious for murdering Aborigines for many years after, I read that he shot an Aboriginal woman dead in Toowoomba in the 1880s because he claimed she was wearing his mother’s dress.

Turd Case

Where did you “read” this?

He murdered that woman 28 years later, Toowoomba is hundreds of miles from Taroom, and in the meantime he’d murdered thousands of Aborigines, from Rockhampton to Maryborough and out to past Roma.
He was a cold blooded mass Murderer.

He murdered “thousands of aborigines”? A one-man killing machine, killing “thousands” in 28 years (even if it was “only” 2000, to get the plural, that was at least 70 a year, more than one a week). Surely you must be able to provide a link to Trove or a reliable source for this story?

We are all aware that providing evidence for your assertions is not your usual practice, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Put up or withdraw your assertions, and shut up.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 23, 2023 8:47 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 23, 2023 at 7:50 pm
If the stupid Liberal party could only see, the average Aussie is heartily sick of woke crap, and if they adhered to their original values they could take advantage of it. But they won’t – so where is the new party for these people?

Nailed it.
Huh?
Maybe in 1958, but these days the average voting Aussie has drank the Kool Aid.
The Liberal Party has got to take them seriously to have any chance of returning to Government.

The Turd Case solution to Liberal election success: Become like Labor, drink the KoolSAid.

Still shilling for Labor policies, Turd?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 23, 2023 8:53 pm

Turd Case

Where did you “read” this?

I remember reading about a grazier who came across a tribe of Aboriginal mechanical engineers wearing his mother’s socks whom he killed with smallpox coated bullets from an assault musket.

You will be hearing more from a future ‘truth-telling’ commission.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 23, 2023 8:55 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
June 23, 2023 8:56 pm

Kool Aid

  1. Also learnt today that my SIL has Jewish “descent”, if that is even a thing. Apparently her maternal great grandmother…

  2. Remembering the TITANIC .. the “iceberg” defends itself .. LOL! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP5bu9hLH9E&t=85s

  3. Al Smith dinner speeches: Donald Trump delivers remarks at the Al Smith dinner (youtube.com) Pretty funny stuff!!!

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