Open Thread – Tues 20 June 2023


The Battle of Waterloo: The British Squares Receiving the Charge of the French Cuirassiers, Henri Félix Emmanuel Philippoteaux, 1874

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thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2023 12:01 pm

The fact that Russia controlled the dam and the magnitude of explosives required to blow it would not have been able to be smuggled in by the Ukes to place it at a dangerous enough spot is the sealer.

In a clapped out lada.
With a hole in the roof.
With “Bomb” written in large letters in Cyrillic.

Im not saying it wasnt them, but that silly “look we caught them” picture doesnt inspire confidence.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2023 12:03 pm

You suspect Albo’s Dad may be better at the art of persuasion than he is.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 20, 2023 12:06 pm

Geoff Clark
Not described in glowing terms amongst the everyday Aboriginals. Would love to see his bank balance during his tenure as ATSIC chairman.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2023 12:07 pm

Still Bowen and daylight second in the Most Resembles the Whitlam Cabinet stakes.

johanna
johanna
June 20, 2023 12:08 pm

TheirABC’s belief in the socialist imperatives driving the Chicoms never misses a beat:

From cutting salaries and bonuses and asking staff not to wear expensive clothes and watches at work, to reining in travel and entertainment expenses, Chinese financial firms have jumped on an austerity drive as Beijing pushes to bridge the wealth gap.
Key points:

Authorities are vowing to clamp down on corruption in the country’s financial sector
Financial professionals’ wealth and flashy lifestyles have often come under criticism from the public
State-owned and private-sector financial firms have taken proactive measures to ensure they don’t fall foul of authorities

The steps come as authorities vow to clamp down on corruption in the country’s $US57 trillion ($83 trillion) financial sector and as growth in the world’s second-largest economy weakens, with youth unemployment hitting a record high.

Financial professionals are among the highest-paid workers in communist China and their wealth and flashy lifestyles have often come under criticism from the public on social media as the economy slows, drawing Beijing’s ire as well.

China’s top graft-busting watchdog earlier this year vowed to eliminate ideas of a western-style “financial elite” and rectify the hedonism of excessive pursuit of “high-end taste”.

Their objective is to ‘bridge the wealth gap’? Speaking of bridges …

Just another combination of PR and purging a few enemies. Business as usual.

Courtesy of Reuters, which is about as reliable as AP these days, and uncritically regurgitated as the budget doesn’t allow for real reporting while all those hungry EID mouths are squawking to be fed.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 12:08 pm

mole

Basically he said because compo had been paid so abruptly and it was so high tpeople had a right to ask questions about it.

Apparently, there was also a comment to the effect that being found asleep naked on the office couch was not a career enhancing move.

Kneel
Kneel
June 20, 2023 12:12 pm

“…our daily lives abound with ridiculous or superfluous safety warnings. “

Not just safety warnings:

On a box of salt:
“Mined from 200 million year old salt deposits.

Best before: Dec,2024”

dopey
dopey
June 20, 2023 12:13 pm

“PS: Is it legal to write comments on a ballot paper?” What makes you think you’ll be given one?

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 12:15 pm

Rogersays:
June 20, 2023 at 11:11 am
Someone have a summary of the Rundle situation?

The World Socialist Web Site’s take (no, really…worth a look.)

Seems Crikey readers didn’t like Rundle’s “tone.”

It’s an interesting development when the World Socialist Web Site has a more balanced view than the so-called “quality” media.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 20, 2023 12:18 pm

Kieran Rooney has some news south of the Murray:

A Chinese-owned company blocked from buying collapsed construction giant ProBuild on security grounds is bidding for an $850m housing contract with the state government.

China State Construction Engineering (CSCE) has quietly joined forces with two Australian firms, Capella Capital and Hickory, to bid for one of Victoria’s biggest affordable housing contracts.

The $850m Ground Least Model 2 contract seeks to build up to 1400 homes in partnership with the government.

If successful, the consortium would build at least 650 new social housing homes and replace another 502 at four sites in South Yarra, Prahran, East Hampton and Port Melbourne.

They would also be responsible for maintaining the new homes or 40 years.

But figures across Victoria’s construction industry have questioned whether CSCE should be allowed to tender.

It is a key player in the Chinese government’s contentious Belt and Road soft power initiative, which was at the centre of a deal with the Andrews government that was later scrapped by Canberra.

In 2021, then Treasurer Josh Frydenberg also blocked the state-owned company from buying ProBuild over national security concerns.

CSCE’s involvement in the bidding has prompted concerns of similar risks and that the company is piggybacking on Australian companies to gain a permanent foothold.

It already has a presence in Victoria through the North East Link project, where concerns were also first raised when it became part of the consortium delivering a major package of works.

But one building industry source, who asked to remain anonymous, said there were concerns the new tender would complicate matters by allowing the company to gain a more permanent presence as a government contractor and in the residential housing sector.

Another risk was that CSCE could step in to control the Australian companies in the consortium if they collapse during 40-year contract.

“They are one of the biggest builders in the world,” he said.

“At the very least the department, and also Canberra, should do their due diligence and ask how the project will be managed in light of the rejected ProBuild offer.”

A spokesman for Homes Victoria, the agency responsible for the contract, said they “cannot comment on matters relating to the Ground Lease Model tender process, including individual bidders, due to probity restrictions”.

On its website, the agency says the contract will aim to tackle the lack of “lack of secure, longer-term rentals”.

The issue has emerged as Victoria’s building industry goes through a difficult period and soaring costs send many large companies into administration.

Victoria’s Belt and Road agreement was torn up by the Morrison government after it introduced new laws allowing it to cancel deals between states and foreign powers.

johanna
johanna
June 20, 2023 12:20 pm

As for Hidea ranting about how her projected lifespan was eight years less than the whiteys, as has been pointed out, being a habitue of strip clubs at 3 am is not going to help. That includes the whiteys who were there, BTW.

More broadly, Hidea didn’t get born into a dysfunctional hellhole or shanty near a town where her mother was drunk throughout the pregnancy, maternal nutrition was appalling, hygiene was appalling, her parents (if she had two on site) were drunk, drugged and/or absent … need I go on?

It was the cheapest of cheap shots, completely dishonest, and if I were making an amateur diagnosis – based on real cases I have known – she is a strong candidate for the thing that the Federal judge mentioned when talking about dodgy rape cases being brought before the court.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 12:22 pm

m0ntysays:
June 20, 2023 at 11:52 am
I was initially dubious about Uke claims that it was Russia who blew that dam, but the evidence seems to be piling up that it was indeed the Russians. The fact that Russia controlled the dam and the magnitude of explosives required to blow it would not have been able to be smuggled in by the Ukes to place it at a dangerous enough spot is the sealer.

Sure, the Ukes might have had motive, but they didn’t really have opportunity.

Has the fat fascist fool finally read the Geneva Conventions? He is now walking (or perhaps running) back his earlier suggestion that the Ukies were the military geniuses who did the job.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 20, 2023 12:23 pm

Best before: Dec,2024

Expired 200 million-year-old salt will be the ruination of us all.

I foretold this! I waaarned you!

johanna
johanna
June 20, 2023 12:29 pm

On a box of salt:
“Mined from 200 million year old salt deposits.

Best before: Dec,2024”

Rolled gold, Kneel. Someone who knows how should send it to Instapundit, WIP and numerous others on the sidebar.

I completely ignore those dates, and eagerly snap up bargains at the supermarket when things are about to ‘expire’.

Except mince. Other meat – sure. But while I survived a lot of dodgy mince in my student days, I’m not so sure now.

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2023 12:36 pm

US black activist, Communist long marcher & reparations advocate Angela Davis has discovered she is descended from slave owners.

mem
mem
June 20, 2023 12:42 pm

A Chinese-owned company blocked from buying collapsed construction giant ProBuild on security grounds is bidding for an $850m housing contract with the state government.

So this was what Andrews was up to when he went to China. I wonder how many other big deals he did with the CCP
Andrews crucifies our own industry with huge energy bills, red and green tape and then spends our money with the Chinese!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 20, 2023 12:48 pm

Quenthland news (the Courier-Mail):

Three Collinsville family members were jailed over an Australia Day pub attack after the trio ganged up on a punter over a yellow bucket hat and an insult about teeth.

Now all three have been banned from the venue in a regional mining town where there are only two pubs.

The victim had been drinking in the deck area at the Collinsville Workers Club on January 26, 2023. He had won a prize pack earlier that day that included a yellow bucket hat, which he wore and which Kristie Altmann and her group of friends kept stealing from his head.

Bucket hats. This country’s greatest failing.

Bowen Magistrates Court heard that about 8.15pm the hat was stolen again and the victim “went over to the group demanding it back”.

At this point the piano in the corner went silent.

Kristie Altmann put the hat on her head and the victim snatched it back after which “the group erupted at (him) for removing it too forcefully”.

At this point Michael Aaron Altmann walked over with his wife and began arguing with the victim, threatening to hit him and calling him “a f–king joke”.

‘Uh huh. You done ripped your hat off my thieving wahf’s head too rough.’

Police prosecutor Sergeant Emma Myors said the victim responded: “I’ve got more jokes than you do teeth.”

Traditional Quenthland bar fight then ensues, over the Quenthland traditional things. Bucket hats and teeth, or lack thereof.

The Last Holdout’s spinning along nicely. For a change, there was no mention of Sovereign Citizenry.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 20, 2023 12:48 pm

Dr. Peter Hotez is slowly getting cooked. All the BS from his mouth is now coming back to haunt him.

Skip to 5:20. Anyone listening to this bloke for health advice is a retard.

—–

Kim Iverson Show:

The Kim Iversen Show LIVE | June 19, 2023
Controversy ignites after Dr. Peter Hotez is invited to debate Robert F Kennedy Jr on the Joe Rogan Podcast.

It’s Juneteenth! South Carolina Congressional Candidate Gregg Marcel Dixon joins the show to debate reparations for descendants of slaves. Donate to his campaign at

The FBI Groomed a 16-Year-Old With Brain Development Issues To Become A Terrorist by Murtaza Hussain

Masks OFF! Dr. Peter Hotez and Joe Rogan Clash Over Invitation To Debate RFK Jr. on Rogan’s Podcast

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2023 12:48 pm

War. War never changes…

Study suggests warfare was responsible for the boom-bust cycles of Neolithic societies (Phys.org, 19 Jun)

A new study out of the Complexity Science Hub concludes that social disintegration and violent conflict played a crucial role in shaping the population dynamics of early farming societies in Neolithic Europe

Complexity scientist Peter Turchin and his team at CSH, working as part of an international and interdisciplinary collaboration, may have added a meaningful piece to a long-standing puzzle in archaeology.

“Our study shows that periodic outbreaks of warfare—and not climate fluctuations—can account for the observed boom-bust patterns in the data,” argues Turchin, who’s a project leader at the Complexity Science Hub (CSH).

Well that lets Stone Age SUVs off the hook then. Dr Turchin, though, is probably a flint flake away from being cancelled for climate heresy.

E.J.
E.J.
June 20, 2023 12:49 pm

Definitely worth reading and sharing…lets expose this

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2023 1:10 pm

Apparently astronomy is in big demand for criminal court cases.

Where was the Sun? Here’s why astronomers are more useful in court cases than you’d think (19 Jun)

Over the past eight years, I have been asked to submit astronomical evidence for court cases all over Australia.

Normally when we think of evidence in court, we think of eyewitnesses, DNA or police reports. Often, this evidence requires an expert to explain it – to be able to communicate the findings and data to the members of the court to make an informed decision. These experts are typically in medicine, engineering, psychology, or other fields.

Expert astronomers usually are not what one pictures in court, but that is exactly what I do.

The first time I was asked by police to do it came as a bit of a surprise. I had never thought about applying astronomy to the courtroom. Once the first group knew I can do it, more and more requests came in, from colleagues in the same police force or division, or investigators having seen my evidence elsewhere.

Now, I’m asked to submit evidence for roughly 1–2 cases per week. Usually this requires submitting a statement of evidence to the court. But sometimes I am asked to attend court and explain what the evidence means.

Working as an expert witness has given me hope, because I see the extent to which the justice system will sometimes go to get all the details right – like taking into account the phase of the Moon or the position of the Sun. It is also the perfect example of the importance of experts in our society.

Here’s who he is:

Brad E Tucker
Astrophysicist, Australian National University

This guy is being called one or two times a week in court cases for astronomy expertise. That’s an eye opener! Although the article pretty much describes why that might be. I disagree with him, though, about the value of “experts”.

shatterzzz
June 20, 2023 1:11 pm

I got an email from AGL with the new charges from July 1 .. why would the supply charge go up?
Regardless of the price of electricity shirley the supply costs shouldn’t be affected ….. same stuff may be dearer but it comes thru the same wires as before ………!
Old ..Supply charge c/day 92.82000 .. 102.102000
New .. Supply charge c/day98.51000 .. 108.361000

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 20, 2023 1:12 pm

the victim responded: “I’ve got more jokes than you do teeth.”

That was a pretty smart line for a drunk guy. Hell I’d be doing well to think of that one sober.

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 20, 2023 1:14 pm

Several days before Wackerman’s arrest, authorities busted Democratic donor Themis Matsoukas for allegedly performing sexual acts with his dog at Rothrock State Forest in Pennsylvania.

A clear case of ‘get a room’ surely?

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 20, 2023 1:17 pm

On a box of salt:
“Mined from 200 million year old salt deposits.

Best before: Dec,2024”

Or, on the bulk peanuts label in Woolies –

“May contain traces of nuts…”

No duff

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 20, 2023 1:17 pm

Dr Vernon Coleman MB ChB DSc:

Only idiots are still wearing face masks
17TH JUNE 2023
The mainstream media has reported that face masks may raise the risk of stillbirths, testicular dysfunction and cognitive decline due to the build-up of carbon dioxide.

They didn’t mention all the other problems proven to be associated with mask use.

Amazingly, there are still some very stupid doctors around who are wearing face masks all day long and who are telling patients and the public to wear face masks. I suspect that these doctors are still promoting the use of face masks because their brains have been adversely affected.

The UK Government has at last admitted that there is no evidence that masks stop any bugs spreading. And the fact is that anyone who has ever worn a mask because they thought it would keep them safe from covid was misled, lied to, falsely reassured and behaving irrationally. Many people in power continue to insist that people wear them and they do this to remind people that nothing is normal –nor ever will be.

We are entering the Great Reset and masks are there to remind us of our slavery. The greens don’t seem to care that more plastic is used to make the billions of masks than the plastic bags they hated so much. They don’t care about the birds and other wildlife being harmed by discarded masks.

Moreover, anyone who wears a mask today is suffering from a new disease which I have identified called chronic maskitis.

Sufferers from chronic maskitis still insist on wearing their masks whenever they are at risk of coming into contact with other human beings. They believe that their mask will help stop them inhaling a virus which may kill them.

Chronic maskitis sufferers will have almost certainly believed everything they’ve been told by their government, by the media and by the small army of media doctors forever repeating the officially inspired lies.

Individuals with chronic maskitis will have almost certainly been jabbed – at least twice and probably more often – with a toxic, experimental substance which is now proven does far more harm than good and is, as I predicted, now certain to kill far more people than the rebranded flu known as covid-19. And for those of us trying to win a war and save lives, it really doesn’t matter a toss whether you believe the alleged disease is caused by a virus, an exosome, a 5G mast or eating too much yoghurt.

Way back in the early summer of 2020 I published material proving that masks were useless and certain to do more harm than good. At that time Fauci and Whitty agreed with me that mask wearing was a pointless and dangerous thing to do. Fauci referred to mask wearing as virtue signalling.

In March 2020, Dr Jenny Harries, Deputy Chief Medical Officer in the UK, warned that it is possible to trap the virus in a mask and start breathing it in. She said that wearing a mask was not a good idea. Professor Chris Whitty, the UK’s Chief Medical Officer, said that wearing a face mask had almost no effect on reducing the risk of contracting covid-19, and that the Government did not advise healthy individuals to wear masks.

But then, for no good reason that I could see, the official line changed – virtually overnight. People were told that they should wear masks. Children in school were forced to wear masks all day long. Shop assistants and medical staff wore them with their visors, their goggles, their plastic gowns and their rubber gloves.

In June 2021 I was becoming so worried by the madness that I made a video entitled ‘Most Mask Wearers will be dead or demented in ten years’.

I now worry that many of those suffering from chronic maskitis won’t last that long.

Not surprisingly, vital evidence outlining the dangers and ineffectiveness of mask wearing has been banned, hidden or deleted from the internet. Public discussion and debate about the value of face masks has for 18 months now been suppressed by politicians and the media. The people at Google and YouTube will be directly responsible for millions of death. So will media doctors and crooked fact-checkers who’ve supported their government’s lies.

I’ve spent a long time digging out the real science on masks. In 2020 I wrote a new book entitled Proof that Masks Do More Harm than Good. The book contains scientific references explaining precisely why masks are dangerous and don’t do what people are told they will do. The book was banned, of course.

But I’m pleased to report that my book on masks has now been updated and published in paperback. It’s called Proof that Masks Do More Harm than Good and it is available via the bookshop on this website or direct from the publisher at http://www.korsgaardpublishing.com.

It’s worth remembering that thousands of years ago, it was discovered that forcing people to wear masks covering much of their faces broke their will and made them subservient. Masks depersonalised the wearers and dehumanised them. More recently, CIA torture techniques include forcing people to wear masks.

Mask wearers have been encouraged by the psy-op specialists to show their hatred for non-mask wearers. This loathsome ploy seems designed to make those who cannot or do not wear masks feel guilty and ashamed. The mentally and physically disabled will, therefore, be harassed and abused if they dare to go out of their homes. Maybe we should start a counter psy op movement and spread the word that only ugly people wear masks.

The big problem with masks is that the reduced oxygen intake is accompanied by an increase in carbon dioxide intake. The tighter a mask fits the more likely it is to reduce blood oxygen levels and to increase the amount of carbon dioxide being inhaled. In my book I’ve quoted research proving that this is a real hazard.

I’ve also explained that lower oxygen levels and increased levels of carbon dioxide stimulate greater inspiratory flow – leading to a greater risk that loose fibres from the facemask will be inhaled.

Then there is the fact that face masks don’t work. Between 2004 and 2016, at least twelve articles appeared in medical and scientific journals showing that face masks do not prevent the transmission of infection. And those tests were with approved masks rather than masks made out of old dish cloths, bras and bits of unwanted dress material.

Cloth masks fail to impede or stop flu virus transmissions, and the number of layers of fabric required to prevent pathogen penetration would require a suffocating number of layers and could not be used.

The World Health Organisation, which originally opposed face masks, now recommends that disposable masks should be worn and discarded after one use. And the evidence shows that they should be changed every two hours. Few people can afford to buy six masks a day and so masks are frequently worn more than once. This massively increases the risk of a chest infection developing.

There are lots of other specific risks.

Way back in September 2020, a group of 70 doctors pointed out that children are badly affected by having to wear face masks. ‘Mandatory face masks in schools are a major threat to their development,’ they wrote. Teachers don’t seem to care.

Dentists in New York reported seeing a number of patients with inflamed gums and other problems due to masks.

Sufferers from chronic maskitis are more likely to develop infection than non-mask wearers. This may be due to the fact that masks reduce blood oxygen levels and adversely affect natural immunity. It is likely that anyone who wears a face mask for long periods will have a damaged immune system – and be more susceptible to infection. Studies have shown that hypoxia can inhibit immune cells used to fight viral infections. Wearing a mask may make the wearer more likely to develop an infection – and if an infection develops it is likely to be worse. Low oxygen levels reduce T cells and therefore reduce immunity levels.

Moreover, while the mask wearer thinks that they are becoming accustomed to re-breathing exhaled air, the problems within the brain are growing as the oxygen deprivation continues. Brain cells which die, because of a shortage of oxygen, will never be replaced. They are gone forever. A leading neurologist has pointed out that children and teenagers must never wear masks, partly because they have extremely active and adaptive immune systems but also because their brains are especially active and vulnerable. The more active an organ is the more oxygen it needs. And so the damage to children’s brains is huge and irreversible. She warns that dementia is going to increase in ten years, and the younger generation will not be able to reach their potential because of the mask wearing.

Chronic maskitis sufferers are likely to suffer skin problems too.

A dermatologist has warned that face masks traps warm moisture that is produced when we exhale. For those with acne, this can lead to acne flares. For many others, this warm, moist environment surrounding skin creates the perfect condition for naturally occurring yeast and bacteria to flourish and grow more abundant. This overgrowth of yeast and bacteria can produce cracking and sores at the corners of the mouth.

And here’s another very real worry.

Studies have shown that loose fibres are seen on all types of masks and may be inhaled causing serious lung damage. One risk is pulmonary fibrosis – a disease which cannot be cured and has a poor survival rate.

It has also been reported that mask wearers may develop a sore throat. An infectious disease specialist reports that humidity will let bacteria continue to grow inside the mask so if you were growing bacteria in that area and you were breathing that inside, you can potentially get an infection, especially strep or any other bacteria that can cause infection.

Cancer patients who are in remission are more likely to find their cancer coming back if they wear a mask – because of the low oxygen levels.

The available medical evidence proves overwhelmingly that masks do no good in preventing the spread of infection but do a great deal of harm to those wearing them.

Sadly it is clear that mask wearing has become an ingrained habit with many. I know of one optician who still insists on staff and customers wearing masks. Even doctors and nurses in hospitals and general practice are routinely wearing masks, though routinely wearing a face mask in a health care setting is pointless and dangerous.

Only idiots are still wearing face masks

Rabz
June 20, 2023 1:18 pm

Normally when we think of evidence in court, we think of eyewitnesses, DNA or police reports

Not any more, now it’s hysterical untestable claims, physical impossibilities (e.g. defendants gifted with three hands), “the vibe” and statements from high profile braindead lamestream meeja amphibians.

Evidence, shmevidence. An outmoded concept.

Rabz
June 20, 2023 1:19 pm

A clear case of ‘get a room’ surely?

Or a kennel.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2023 1:21 pm

Laugh of the day!

All-electric homes are better for your hip pocket and the planet. Here’s how governments can help us get off gas (19 Jun)

That headline and the article are just the usual fantasy boilerplate. The laugh came when I looked at who wrote this tripe:

Esther Suckling
Research Associate, Grattan Institute

Esther is an Associate at Grattan Institute. She previously worked on health policy as an intern at the Department of Treasury and Finance and as a research assistant for Rightlane Consulting.

Esther holds a Bachelor of Arts with majors in politics and economics from Melbourne University.

LOL. An expert she is! Grattan is lately exceeding even the Ponds Institute for garbage studies.

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 20, 2023 1:21 pm

I got an email from AGL with the new charges from July 1 .. why would the supply charge go up?

Dont forget to factor in the declining purchasing power of your money, which went down~8% over the last year, even by government figures – twice that is probably closer to the mark.

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2023 1:24 pm

Or, on the bulk peanuts label in Woolies –

“May contain traces of nuts…”

No duff

The peanut is a legume not a nut.

Not many people know that.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 20, 2023 1:25 pm

The peanut is a legume not a nut

You mean it’s not a pea?

m0nty
m0nty
June 20, 2023 1:27 pm

Im not saying it wasnt them, but that silly “look we caught them” picture doesnt inspire confidence.

Very much agreed on that one, mole. That story has whiskers on it. I’ve seen more believable pics on Midjourney. That does undermine the Ukes’ other claims, but the facts are that Russia was the only mob who could actually places charges in the sub-surface areas that could get the job done.

As for db quoting international laughing stock ISW, if they are your primary source you really are flailing.

Min
Min
June 20, 2023 1:30 pm

That was the question in the paper quiz yesterday Hazelnut Chest nut peanut Which one isn’t a nut?

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 20, 2023 1:31 pm

You’ll get full details on the Voice … AFTER voting Yes: Indigenous elder claims Australia has ‘never’ gone to a referendum with details before and asks for a vote on principle – despite reparations fears

By BRITTANY CHAIN, POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA

An Indigenous elder who helped the government carve out the Voice to Parliament referendum question has urged the Australian public to vote on principle – claiming further details won’t be made public until after a ‘Yes’ vote.

Aunty Pat Anderson, co-chair of the Uluru Dialogue and Alyawrre elder, told ABC News Breakfast Australia has ‘never gone to a referenda with all the details’ and that this will be no different.

Daily Mail – plus another poll you can vote in

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2023 1:32 pm

monty.
I think it goes back to “who benefits”.

IF the Ukies original offensive was to have been to the south, and the Russkies learned of it, then the dam destruction makes sense as a spoiler operation.
Would sort of explain the apparent lack of the leopards/Chieftains in any numbers and the slow advance.

Im fairly agnostic on who blew the dam.

A shitty thing to do though.

m0nty
m0nty
June 20, 2023 1:33 pm

The Institute for the Study of War quoted the head of the Estonian Defense Forces Intelligence Center Colonel Margo Grosberg who said on June 16 that “we won’t see an offensive (operation by Ukraine) over the next seven days.”

I mean, look at how weak that is. What the hell would Estonia know about anything more complex than a potato crop.

All I am hearing that is confirmed by Russia is the Ukes claiming to have taken over a few remote villages per day, which means bugger all in the wider scheme of things. Wake me up when the fighting is over a major strategic location. Right now there is precious little believable info, which is frustrating but predictable.

m0nty
m0nty
June 20, 2023 1:36 pm

monty.
I think it goes back to “who benefits”.

Like I said, both sides had motives. I seriously doubt frogmen managed to lug upwards of 500kg of explosives into place to blow it up from the inside, which is the only way the Ukes could have done it since Russia controlled the ground above. Dams are a lot harder to destroy than oil pipelines.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 20, 2023 1:37 pm

Is this ‘aunty’ and ‘uncle’ thing meant to sound homely and twee? On one level it’s patronising. It’s also irritating and sounds like something out of a hand book that only a pube in Canbra could produce. They’re also European words.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 20, 2023 1:37 pm

All-electric homes are better for your hip pocket and the planet.

Is that because they don’t charge you during black-outs?

duncanm
duncanm
June 20, 2023 1:40 pm

Nah some conduit to the lesbian looking rape support bloke.

a Mr Fisk

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 20, 2023 1:41 pm

The peanut is a legume not a nut.

I wondered how long it would take….

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 20, 2023 1:42 pm

Who the f8ck is this bloke?

—–

Rukshan Fernando:

Campaigning for the Voice Referendum is well and truly under way now. I look at a campaign put out by Fair Australia, that focuses on who they call the Architect of the Voice, Thomas Mayo.

Is The Voice to Parliament Linked to Communists? Thomas Mayo in the Spotlight

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2023 1:44 pm

All-electric homes are better for your hip pocket and the planet

Ban onshore gas.

“Look everyone, renew-balls is cheaper than gas”….

Mongs.
https://imgflip.com/i/7pxcnc

duncanm
duncanm
June 20, 2023 1:48 pm

Roger says:
June 20, 2023 at 11:11 am
Someone have a summary of the Rundle situation?

The World Socialist Web Site’s take (no, really…worth a look.)

thanks for the link Roger, a very good article.

Its a concern when you start agreeing with the Trots.. but I’m telling myself they’re just running their usual campaign of lying until they have power, when all that talk of justice and fairness goes out the window.

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2023 1:48 pm

Aunty Pat Anderson, co-chair of the Uluru Dialogue and Alyawrre elder, told ABC News Breakfast Australia has ‘never gone to a referenda with all the details’ and that this will be no different.

That may explain why only 8 out of 44 have passed.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 1:49 pm

By BRITTANY CHAIN, POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA

An Indigenous elder who helped the government carve out the Voice to Parliament referendum question has urged the Australian public to vote on principle – claiming further details won’t be made public until after a ‘Yes’ vote.

Quite happy to vote on principle. The principle that apartheid is bad in principle.

Jorge
Jorge
June 20, 2023 1:49 pm

Linda Burney sounds like a trained hypnotist: ‘….. will make a practical difference … extraordinarily clear …. taking forward …. one step closer …. uniting …. unifying …’

Her sound grabs are played with no questions asked.

They should come with a voice from above saying ‘When you awake you will vote yes.’

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 1:51 pm

I mean, look at how weak that is. What the hell would Estonia know about anything more complex than a potato crop.

I dunno. What the hell would a fantasy football operator know about anything more complex than Economics 1?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 1:52 pm

ADF leadership referred to International Criminal Court
Andrew BrownAAP
Tue, 20 June 2023 10:46AM

Tasmanian senator Jacqui Lambie has referred senior leadership of the Australian Defence Force to the International Criminal Court over alleged war crimes committed in Afghanistan.

In an emotional speech to the Senate, Senator Lambie – a former ADF member – said leadership had not been held to account for their actions.

“The government is no doubt hoping this will all just go away,” she told parliament on Tuesday.

“They’re hoping that Australians will forget that when alleged war crimes in Afghanistan were investigated, our senior commanders got a free pass, while our Diggers were thrown under the bus.

“Well, we don’t forget. I won’t forget. Lest we forget.

“There is a culture of cover-up at the highest levels of the Australian Defence Force. It is the ultimate boys’ club.”

Senator Lambie said the referral to The Hague asked the criminal court to examine the country’s high commanders “through the lens of command responsibility”.

She said the referral was a method of last resort.

“Quite frankly, I feel embarrassed that Australia is in this situation, so I am helping the government today,” Senator Lambie said.

“I am giving you a second chance to get this right and fix this mess.

“High command needs to be held responsible.”

She sought to table the referral to The Hague in parliament, but the government, opposition and the Greens said they wanted to view the documents before a decision was made.

Labor senator Anthony Chisholm said he hoped the situation could be resolved quickly.

“We too understand the passion and importance that Senator Lambie places on these matters, and we understand that they’re important to her and many people across the country,” he said.

“We do, however, follow a normal protocol where we get the chance to peruse these documents before we make a decision.”

An Office of the Special Investigator has been set up to address potential criminal matters raised in the Inspector-General of the ADF’s Afghanistan inquiry report, which looked at alleged war crimes committed between 2005 and 2016

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duncanm
duncanm
June 20, 2023 1:52 pm

Seems Crikey readers didn’t like Rundle’s “tone.”

.. a typical crikey reader.

Helen ?
@helensent_
Bernard I respect your writing, but I find the publication of Rundle’s recent piece totally unacceptable to me. I don’t buy any Murdoch rags to avoid views similar to what Rundle expressed. I’m now reconsidering my Crikey sub.

Whatever you do, don’t expose them to an alternative viewpoint.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 1:54 pm

Mother Lodesays:
June 20, 2023 at 1:37 pm
All-electric homes are better for your hip pocket and the planet.

Is that because they don’t charge you during black-outs?

You still pay the supply charge, even if there is no supply.

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2023 1:57 pm

Linda Burney sounds like a trained hypnotist: ‘….. will make a practical difference … extraordinarily clear …. taking forward …. one step closer …. uniting …. unifying …’

Close…she’s a Dip Ed.

JC
JC
June 20, 2023 2:02 pm

I mean, look at how weak that is. What the hell would Estonia know about anything more complex than a potato crop.

Fatboy

Everything, every example, every metaphor, everything has to go back to food for you in some twisted way.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 20, 2023 2:04 pm

ML: Is that because they don’t charge you during black-outs?
BJ: You still pay the supply charge, even if there is no supply.

Fixed supply charge / network connection fee going up possibly because retailers expect more blackouts? Gotta cover those costs somehow.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 2:05 pm

“We do not support the independence of Taiwan,” – US Secretary of State Blinken during the talks in Beijing

Meanwhile

Exactly! Compare Macron’s China reception versus Blinken’s. Yeah, this administration commands ZERO respect…

https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1670471508354027520?s=20

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2023 2:10 pm

Apparently, there was also a comment to the effect that being found asleep naked on the office couch was not a career enhancing move.

Opinions may vary on that.

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2023 2:10 pm

Crikey has a 50% discount on subs atm

Just a coincidence, I’m sure.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 2:11 pm

China Has A Simple Solution To Its Soaring Youth Unemployment

What are the policy solutions?

Here, the answer is two-fold, with the distinction being drawn between the politically correct (if largely irrelevant), and that which is less socially acceptable, yet bears far more profound consequences for the real world.

Starting with the former, Goldman writes that China’s youth unemployment suggest promoting services activity growth to offset the recent surge. “A complete closure of service sector output gap from current level could reduce youth unemployment rate by up to 7% according to the bank’s estimate, although this could overestimate the potential improvement if some of the weakness in sectors such as education and information technology may have become structural on regulatory tightening.”

Blah Blah Blah: China is the world’s most advanced authoritarian economy (although under Biden, the US has been doing everything in its power to dethrone China): if it had an on-off switch to flip as per Goldman’s reco, it would have done so long ago instead of opening up its economic omnipotence to global skepticism and criticism, something which further weakens Beijing’s control at a time when the economy is clearly stalling.

Instead, a more practical and realistic solution comes from Jeffrey Landsberg over at Commodore Research, who writes that in recent months he has often received questions from clients regarding if and when to expect a war will break out between China and Taiwan. In response, Landsberg writes that

“it is very difficult to make such a prediction, but lately a depressing thought has been stuck in our mind: War Creates A Lot Of Employment For A Country’s Youth.”

Commodore further notes that “it is becoming increasingly uncomfortable that the world’s concerns of a coming war in Taiwan are intensifying at the very same time that China’s youth unemployment is surging.” And while caveating its prediction, the firm cautions that

“the record level of China’s youth unemployment, concerns over Taiwan, and countless Ukrainian and Russian youth already engaged in a European land war all continue to weigh heavily on our mind.”

P
P
June 20, 2023 2:14 pm

Thomas Mayo – full link:

https://youtu.be/655mzGRmkZw

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 20, 2023 2:16 pm

Sooky Mc-Ex-Captain Cheat news:

England fans were in fine voice as they brutally trolled Steve Smith. Smith, 34, was in action for Australia as they took on England at Edgbaston on day four of the First Ashes Test.

And while Smith was fielding for the Aussies, he had wandered towards the notorious Eric Hollies stand. The crowd promptly found their voice as he took up his position.

They could be heard chanting: “Cry on the telly, we saw you cry on the telly.

“Cry on the telly, we saw you cry on the telly.”

This, of course, references SandpaperGate in South Africa not all that long ago. Expected nothing less from the Barmy Army. Glorious.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 20, 2023 2:16 pm

Breaking faith with their subscribers by jumping aboard the
#SlanderHiggins bandwagon sounds like BudLight level stupidity.
Same with the Liberal Party.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 2:16 pm
Rabz
June 20, 2023 2:17 pm

Crikey has a 50% discount on subs atm

Many of its erstwhile readers are now profoundly disgrundled.

Just a coincidence, I’m sure.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2023 2:19 pm

You expect the Barmy Army on Rolf Harris won’t age well over an Aussie summer and a few beers.

Dot
Dot
June 20, 2023 2:22 pm

Police prosecutor Sergeant Emma Myors said the victim responded: “I’ve got more jokes than you do teeth.

Good work chief.

Joh sez: Hidea.

Again, good work chief.

ADF leadership referred to International Criminal Court

Good work once again, I’m the living embodiment of the Vince McMahon meme right now.

I think today is a good day.

Dot
Dot
June 20, 2023 2:22 pm

You expect the Barmy Army on Rolf Harris won’t age well over an Aussie summer and a few beers.

Once again, Jimmy Saville sends His Majesty, his regards.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 2:27 pm

WSJ – Why Ukraine’s Offensive Will Likely Be a Slow, Costly Grind

Kyiv and Moscow have spent months preparing for fighting along a vast front line

Military orthodoxy says that an army on the offensive that is hitting entrenched enemies should start with airborne barrages, followed by an overwhelming ground assault advancing beneath flying gunships blasting open a path.

Ukraine hasn’t had that option.

Lacking a robust air force, Kyiv’s troops are attempting a feat few modern militaries would dare: dislodge Russian troops that have spent months digging themselves in and readying for Ukraine’s long telegraphed onslaught.

Ukrainians’ early setbacks are a sign that their offensive will be a long, deadly grind, and not a repeat of their rout of Russian troops in the northeast region of Kharkiv late last summer.

“It was always going to be difficult,” said Rob Lee, a senior fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute. Russian forces “have been preparing for a long time. They learned from their mistakes in Kharkiv.”

The fight unfolding now, a slugfest on the battlefield, is more fundamentally a battle of readiness. Both sides since the middle of last year have been mustering weapons, troops and defensive positions for what they knew would be a pivotal moment.

Ukraine has garnered billions of dollars worth of advanced arms and armor from its Western allies. Moscow, meanwhile, has called up more than 200,000 soldiers, dug trenches and prepared firing positions to stop the Ukrainians. Most significant, Russian troops have spread potentially millions of land mines, some emplaced by mine-spewing rockets fired from mobile launchers.

A Ukrainian unit driving advanced U.S. and European equipment earlier this month drove into one of those minefields, which incapacitated several tanks and armored fighting vehicles. Other units have faced aerial attacks from Russian helicopter gunships and missiles, launched from both air and the ground.

Faced with setbacks in probing attacks, Ukrainian commanders over recent days have in many places paused advances to reassess tactics. At least some of the damaged vehicles were recovered, officials said.

Lacking air superiority, Ukraine has sought to degrade Russian forces’ capacity to fight by hitting their supplies and centers of command and control with long-range strikes, most recently using British-supplied Storm Shadow cruise missiles. Kyiv employed the tactic with great success last year, using shorter-range U.S.-made Himars truck-based rocket launchers to hit Russian nodes and undermine troops’ fighting strength.

Ukraine late last year retook the southern city of Kherson after methodically destroying Russian supply lines and support to its fighters, who could be reinforced only across vulnerable bridges. Kherson was uniquely vulnerable because of its position at the confluence of two rivers, which hemmed in Russian forces there. Even so, the siege took months to succeed. Today’s Ukrainian targets aren’t as prone to assault as Kherson was, which increases complexities for Kyiv.

Ukrainian attackers can succeed in breaking through Russian lines only if they first wear out its forces, said Phillips O’Brien, a professor of strategic studies at the University of St. Andrews in Scotland. “Because they don’t have the air supremacy, they can’t blast their way through, protecting their armored spearheads,” he said. “It’s a very brutal phase.”

To boost its chances of success, Ukraine has been working to stretch and test Russian responses. Over recent weeks Kyiv’s forces have staged attacks at points along the length of the front line, from the Russian city of Belgorod across the Ukraine border in the north, to near Tokmak, a vital rail nexus for occupying Russian troops in Ukraine’s south. Ukrainian commanders said Sunday they destroyed a large Russian ammunition depot in occupied territory near the Crimean Peninsula, which Russia seized from Ukraine in 2014.

Ukraine also has hit Russian forces in Bakhmut, a city near the center of the 900-mile-long front line that Moscow spent almost 10 months fighting to capture. As Russian troops claimed the city center several weeks ago, Ukrainian troops who had withdrawn to surrounding high ground began pounding them. The continuing battle has drawn in more Russian soldiers, who might otherwise hold defensive lines. Analysts at the North Atlantic Treaty Organization estimate Russia has suffered roughly 100,000 casualties around Bakhmut.

“The Russian side in Bakhmut looks very, very tired, if not exhausted,” said a senior NATO official.

In other places, Ukrainian troops including commandos are seeking weak points in Russian defenses. Even advances that don’t breach Russian lines can help Ukrainian tacticians because they draw Russian responses. By observing how Russian troops react and seeing where responding troops emerge from, Ukrainian commanders can locate new targets to hit with long-range weaponry. Radio communications among Russians can also help Ukraine find targets and potentially gain battlefield intelligence, say Western military officials.

Still, any edge Ukraine gains against Russian defenders in terms of human factors, such as exhaustion or motivation, can be offset by Russian strengths in physical defenses, air power or other tools such as electronic-warfare gear, where Moscow is strong, say Western officials. And land mines may prove particularly effective for Russia.

Russia’s land mines are lethal precisely because they require no human intervention, so remain regardless of local circumstances or troop morale. They are difficult to detect and compel attacking troops to slow to a crawl, leaving soldiers and equipment exposed to attack. Many of Russia’s mines pack more explosive force than Ukraine and its allies had expected, meaning they do more damage than predicted.

“You need pretty detailed intelligence to know where every minefield is,” said the senior NATO official. “It’s not that hard to go out and lay a minefield.”

Ultimately the coming battles will boil down to which side’s preparations prevail, say strategists. Mark Cancian, a senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, compared the current situation to the World War II Battle of Kursk, a Russian city near eastern Ukraine. In the spring of 1943, attacking Nazis and defending Soviets knew they would square off somewhere in the region and both sides prepared.

When Germany launched its offensive, it became clear that they had waited too long and the Soviets had been strengthening faster, Cancian said. Moscow won the ensuing fight, which was the largest tank battle in history.

Similarly, Kyiv and Moscow have both been improving their positions over recent months, so the looming fight will test “who is getting stronger at a faster rate,” Cancian said. While the advantage probably goes to Kyiv, he said, “I worry about Kursk.”

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 20, 2023 2:27 pm

Make Thomas Mayo a household name as his type is the reason why we don’t want the Voice.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 2:31 pm

As always – detailed assessments from SIMPLICIUS THE THINKER 19 JUN 2023

AFU Suffers Horror Breakdowns as Russian Forces Repel New Advance

and

SITREP 6/15/23: Kakhovka Powerplay Heats Up as AFU Readies For Round 2

SIMPLICIUS THE THINKER – 16 JUN 2023

Plus

Putin Invites Top Russian Correspondents For Candid War Q&A + SitRep Updates

SIMPLICIUS THE THINKER – 14 JUN 2023

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 2:38 pm

Bourne1879 says:
June 20, 2023 at 2:27 pm

Make Thomas Mayo a household name as his type is the reason why we don’t want the Voice.

Professional, hard-hitting & unforgettable video on The Architect Behind The Voice – 1 Min 26 Secs

Tuesday, 20 June 2023

Great work from the team at Advance Australia.

Magnificent work.

https://www.advanceaustralia.org.au

Send this to your friends.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 20, 2023 2:40 pm

A short digital walk with Rodriguez.

Rodriguez – I Wonder (Lyric Video)

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2023 2:42 pm

ADF leadership referred to International Criminal Court

If Lambie does nothing else, she’s justified her presence in parliament with this.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 2:44 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2023 2:47 pm

Time to fire the formatting sub Roger.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 2:51 pm

Payoffs to farmers ‘doubled’ to secure clean energy shift

Ben Potter Senior writer

Transgrid chief executive Brett Redman says one way to overcome community opposition to big electricity transmission projects in the regions is to offer larger payoffs to farmers, but still more transparency and consultation is required to ease hostility.

Compensation paid to landowners, for building the poles and wires on their property that are needed to connect new wind and solar projects to the electricity grid, has doubled to about $400,000 a kilometre, Mr Redman told an energy conference in Melbourne.

“So that helps,” he said. “At another level though, it’s a very emotional confronting change, particularly when you’re looking at multi-generational farming, multi-generational ownership of land.”

Slow progress in building the transmission links is holding up investments in new generation needed to fill the gap as coal power exits, threatening to undermine the shift to clean energy.

One of the biggest hold-ups comes from dealing with local opposition to the essential infrastructure.

Transgrid owns and operates the high-voltage electricity transmission network in NSW and the ACT, and is part-way through building EnergyConnect, which aims to link up NSW and South Australia by 2024, and HumeLink, which aims to connect Snowy 2.0 to the grid by 2026.

Mr Redman said a lot of mystery often surrounds major transmission projects but fully explaining a route’s rationale can solve problems along the way.

“If we can share why we’ve selected the route … at the end of the day, most people can see the logic of it,” he said.

“Even if we all struggle with the emotion of this, we don’t like it, but whatever we can do [to ease concerns] in this way can make a difference.”

He said the EnergyConnect transmission had managed to strike 95 per cent of landowner deals by agreement, with only six landowners requiring compulsion.

Humelink – connecting Snowy 2.0 to the NSW grid – is still in the development phase and facing a lot of opposition, but still has 40 per cent of agreements signed or in principle with landowners, which at this stage of the project is “really good”.

“I don’t say that in a way to say that landowners are always happy with what’s going on,” Mr Redman said. “I’m really sympathetic but [we] also demonstrate our commitment to getting there by agreement wherever we can, and by being sympathetic about the impact. ”

Stephanie Unwin, chief executive of Horizon Power, regional Western Australia’s integrated power utility, said the number one thing on her list that needed to be solved to facilitate the energy transition was deep, long-duration storage.

“In order for us to really integrate renewables and have the [firm power sources] that provide 24/7 green energy we’ve got to solve those long duration time periods.”

Ms Unwin said lithium ion – the dominant battery technology today – probably would not be Horizon’s storage technology of choice because it can be unstable in the extreme heat of regional WA.

“We need to look for something that for us probably won’t be lithium ion, so probably vanadium flow or something else.”

Vanadium batteries have lagged far behind lithium ion batteries in commercialisation and are consequently more costly, but there are grid scale deployments in China and Japan, and ASX-listed Tivan aims to develop a huge vanadium deposit in WA and develop a battery manufacturing facility near Darwin.

Chris
Chris
June 20, 2023 2:51 pm

A shitty thing to do though.

Foreigners. Who knows what they’ll do next?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 2:55 pm

Opinion

How to turn stamp duty into a land tax overnight

There is a way that Australia’s most inefficient tax could be phased out without states losing a lot of revenue upfront.

Robert Breunig – Tax expert

Stamp duty is Australia’s most inefficient tax. It punishes people who move, makes down-sizing and up-sizing difficult, decreases labour mobility, and, since it is only imposed when people move, is incredibly poorly targeted with respect to wealth and the opportunity cost of land.

A land tax, ideally an annual impost on the unimproved value of land, is far more efficient and equitable. In addition to resolving the social and economic problems raised above, it adds consistency to governments’ property tax receipts and in so doing improves their ability to plan for the future.

Governments, economists and business leaders agree that land tax is the way to go. The largely youthful cohort of Australians who’ve missed out on decades of unprecedented and untaxed capital gains on privately held land tend to concur. Land tax is the way to go.

The problem is implementation. It is brought on by the implicit understanding drawn from long-standing practice that once stamp duty is paid on taking possession of land, no further property taxes will be charged against ownership of it.

This implicit understanding is strongest with respect to owner-occupied housing. The Victorian government’s recent property tax tinkering is a case in point. In dire financial straits, the Andrews government has implemented land tax for commercial/investment property but remains loath to impose it on the too-politically-powerful-to-mess-with cohort of owner-occupiers.

In NSW, Chris Minns is backpedalling from moves to transition to a land tax base, despite readily acknowledging the social and economic benefits the shift will bring.

The political problem of owner-occupiers creates a dilemma for government – one that typically triggers an appeal by state governments for federal funding to cover the cost of any proposed transition.

If state governments concede to owner-occupiers’ advocacy for exemption from land tax, and charge it only after property next changes hands, then property tax receipts will collapse. State governments’ biggest revenue stream will recover only as properties change hands and new owners enter the land tax regime.

Transition period

Most land tax policies propose that all properties be liable for land tax after 10 to 20 years. But that’s still 10 to 20 years of substantially lower revenues and another 10 to 20 years of all the negative lock-in effects of stamp duty.

The solution to this dilemma is to implement land tax universally from day one, and give property owners an option to defer payment of land tax accrued during a “transition period” until the property changes hands. A transition period of 20 years seems equitable, practical and politically palatable.

During that period, deferred land tax will accrue interest at the RBA 90-day bank bill rate.

After that period concludes, all property owners must pay land tax as it is incurred. While payment for land tax deferred over the transition period may continue to be deferred until the property changes hands, after the transition period it accrues interest at the mean variable mortgage interest rate.

In addition, property owners get credit against land tax for stamp duty previously paid, less whatever land tax would have been on the property were it retrospectively applied from the date of purchase. That is, properties purchased more recently will get a large credit while those purchased long ago will probably receive none.

For example, if Jane Smith bought a house for $500,000 in Brisbane in mid-2018, it is worth about $700,000 now (the time at which we’ll assume land tax begins), having grown in value about 7 per cent a year. She paid $16,000 in stamp duty in 2018. A retrospective land tax (set at 0.2 per cent) would have cost her about $6000 between 2018 and 2023, leaving her with a $10,000 land tax credit. If house values continue to climb at 7 per cent a year, then that credit will be exhausted by early 2029. After which she accrues land tax as per normal.

The solution we propose addresses the issues that implementing a universal land tax raises:

It addresses concerns typically raised by advocates for property owners: that they have already paid stamp duty. For this, they get a credit. And that they have limited income and no means to pay more tax.

Instead, payment is deferred until they are flush with cash.

It addresses the funding issue facing governments and alleviates the collapse of property tax receipts that other options trigger. “Deferred” land tax becomes an asset against which governments can raise credit.

It removes the harmful market distortions of other transition schemes (some of which, such as first home buyer subsidies, have contradicted their intended aim and actually inflated property prices).

The federal government has the constitutional capacity to impose a universal land tax – and did so for a significant part of the 20th century. We recommend it does so again as soon as possible, immediately returning receipts raised (together with deferred land tax credits) to the states in which they accrue.

Action at the federal level will ensure a rapid and universal transition to land tax. Simultaneously, it will address the inconsistent rates, overly progressive regimes and high tax-free thresholds that currently apply across the states.

States will relish a politically pain-free opportunity to drop their inefficient, inequitable, market-distorting and often clumsy regimes and transition plans, to the immediate and enduring benefit of all Australians.

Robert Breunig is director of the Tax and Transfer Policy Institute at the Australian National University.

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2023 2:57 pm

Time to fire the formatting sub Roger.

On thin ice, Bear.

Vicki
Vicki
June 20, 2023 2:57 pm

Old Ozzie! Yay! You were missed & some were a bit worried about your health.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
June 20, 2023 2:59 pm

Roger, good job on finding this. I’m posting the whole thing because we all know honesty has a habit of disappearing from the internet. Bold are my highlights.

Australian news site Crikey self-censors article critical of MeToo, Higgins saga
Oscar Grenfell@Oscar_Grenfell
17 June 2023
With the Australian parliament and media dominated by sexual misconduct allegations and their fallout, there is scarcely any thoughtful or critical commentary in the press. Significant issues such as the protracted undermining of the presumption of innocence, the political character of the various scandals and the (reactionary) social forces involved are generally off limits. Superficiality and self-righteousness are the order of the day.

Guy Rundle [Photo: Penguin Books]
A rare exception was to be found in an article published on Crikey yesterday by Guy Rundle, one of the site’s leading journalists. But, as if to drive home the point that no dissent from the official line will be tolerated, Rundle’s article lasted all of a few hours. Almost as quickly as it was posted, it was retracted, scrubbed entirely from Crikey’s website and replaced with a hypocritical and censorious apology by unnamed editors.

The retraction does not indicate that the removal of the article was based on legal issues, which do often emerge due to Australia’s strict defamation laws. The apology asserted that Rundle’s piece contained “factual errors,” but the two cited were entirely open to interpretation, with no evident inaccuracy.

Instead, the article was condemned on the nebulous grounds of “tone.” The apology stated “the tone of the piece did not meet Crikey’s journalistic standards.…” The publication “firmly believe[s] in promoting a space that publishes a plurality of views, and as editors we regularly publish opinion pieces that we may personally disagree with. But this piece doesn’t fall into that category, and we regret publishing it.”

Crikey did not say it, but the obvious reason for the cowardly self-censorship was a social media backlash to Rundle’s article. For much of the publication’s generally inner-city upper middle-class audience, MeToo and identity politics more broadly are articles of faith. Rundle, by offering any criticism, had committed an unpardonable sin. Despite the removal of his article, the social media campaign continues, including with calls for Rundle to be fired.

The contents of the article make clear why it touched a nerve.

The context is recent revelations contained in leaked text messages between former Liberal Party staffer Brittany Higgins and her partner David Sharaz, together with the audio of a five-hour meeting the pair held with producers of Channel Ten’s “The Project” television program.

The material, largely published by the Murdoch-owned Australian, makes clear that beginning in early 2021, Higgins and Sharaz conducted a well-planned media campaign, around Higgins’ allegations that she had been raped in the federal parliament almost two years earlier by another Liberal Party staffer, since revealed to be Bruce Lehrmann. The duo was also, it is now clear, in discussions with senior members of the then Labor Party opposition before the media blitz.

Brittany Higgins (right) with “The Project” journalist Lisa Wilkinson. [Photo: Instagram]

Higgins aired the sexual assault allegations in an interview broadcast by “The Project” on February 15. She did so before finalising a police complaint. The allegation was immediately weaponised by the Labor Party, which vaguely insinuated a cover-up of the incident by the Liberal-National Coalition government. Higgins was presented in the media as an exemplar of courage and heroism.

As Rundle wrote, “whatever happened to Brittany Higgins, she, her partner and others were running a sustained, planned and strategised media campaign around her accusations.”

This did not have any bearing on the veracity of her initial allegation. But, Rundle continued, “she’s not a capital-V Victim, as the now largely dispelled movement around her presented her to be… Higgins and co. did what their role as political advisers trained them to do: they strategised with their assets to maximum advantage. The Higgins we see in leaked texts is capable of distancing herself from what she alleges to be a crime against her, and of considering the best placement of stories, sorting allies from enemies, and so on.”

In one text message, shortly before “The Project” aired, Higgins allegedly wrote to Sharaz “He’s about to be f..ked over. Just wait. We’ve got him.” She was referring to then Coalition Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

Sharaz allegedly texted Higgins a month after the program was broadcast, “Don’t ditch me now you’re famous,” and “We exude power.” In another message, Sharaz wrote: “Are you getting spotted? Are people noticing you? Anyone recognise you?”

Rundle stated that the texts “became our business” and a matter of public interest “when Higgins received a compensation payment from the incoming Albanese government in a stunningly rapid process, and with a price tag believed to be $3 million.”

The Crikey apology identifies this sentence as containing the only two factual errors it points to in the article.

It states: “Higgins lodged her claim in March 2022 while the Morrison government was still in office, and it was not settled until December 2022, seven months after the election of the current government.” And further: “There is no factual basis for the $3 million figure; Higgins has publicly said that figure was her initial claim but that the final figure was much lower than that.”

That hardly refutes Rundle’s point. Higgins received the payment in a no-contest process with former Coalition government ministers barred from giving evidence. Rundle had noted Higgins’ claim that the payout was less than $3 million. But, as he pointed out, she has refused to state the actual amount received.

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The payment was agreed by a Labor government whose senior representatives are now accused of having colluded with Higgins while in opposition. Rundle wrote there was a “widespread perception” that the “process was rushed” for political purposes, including to “close the lid on any revelations concerning Labor involvement becoming a cause célèbre.”

In what were his most controversial comments, Rundle noted that Higgins’ allegations had never been proven in a criminal court. A trial collapsed last October, over juror misconduct. Significant discrepancies had emerged in Higgins’ account during cross examination.

Rundle wrote: “Either Bruce Lehrmann and Brittany Higgins had a sexual encounter in Parliament House or they didn’t. If they did, it was either consensual or it wasn’t.

“The branching lines of this decision tree favour Lehrmann, since in two of the three scenarios he is innocent of any crime (and has not been convicted or re-prosecuted for any crime). But the content of the allegations tips the balance concerning his reputation the other way. That’s an assessment of the culture, not of his case. If someone is accused of fraud, we are quite capable of keeping an open mind. Allegations of sexual crime weigh the other way.”

Later, he wrote: “The brutal, ugly and, let’s face it, entrancing details coming out concerning this case are largely to do with whether Labor did or did not ‘weaponise’ a serious matter in a cynical fashion, in a process drawing tightly together the Higgins push, progressive media stars and Labor. The suggestion that the accusation at the base of it all must be, can only be, true, is ludicrous.”

Rundle outlined an alternative scenario, in keeping with Lehrmann’s insistence that no sexual assault and, in fact, no sexual contact occurred.

“We are supposed to pretend there is no possibility that this is the case. We are supposed to ignore the fact that this has occurred in a milieu of people who have chosen as their profession that of political adviser, whose prerequisite in our time is a willingness to lie cynically and strategically at every opportunity,” Rundle wrote.

This was all too much for the censorious and self-obsessed MeToo supporters on social media. Junking the presumption of innocence? Destroying a man’s life based on accusations that have never been substantiated in a court of law? Politicians exploiting serious allegations for political gain?

All of that and more is not only tolerated but often celebrated by these layers of the middle-class whose commitment to basic democratic rights and civil liberties eroded over the years as their wealth increased. But a single article, by a journalist, raising questions about a case that has dominated the press for years and even entertaining alternative hypotheses is beyond the pale. In its own way, the censorship of Rundle’s article underscores the point he was making.

Vicki
Vicki
June 20, 2023 3:00 pm

Transgrid chief executive Brett Redman says one way to overcome community opposition to big electricity transmission projects in the regions is to offer larger payoffs to farmers, but still more transparency and consultation is required to ease hostility.

As the house owner from “The Castle” said so eloquently:

“In ya dreams!”

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2023 3:01 pm

Recently Crikey’s subscription base grew when the online publication was being sued by Lachlan Murdoch, but now it’s suffering a reversal of fortune, all because a writer, Guy Rundle, wrote a piece where he called for the “full story” around Knickerless’ taxpayer-funded settlement to be revealed. Crikey, they’ve even pulled Rundle’s piece.

I bet those same subscribers, who are now so upset and indignant at Rundle’s piece, were all, prior to last year’s election, shouting, howling and yelling for more government transparency, more government honesty, the need for a federal ICAC and so on. However, it appears that at the end of the day, such quaint notions such as “transparency and honesty” only ever depend on the political side.

At least Rundle is consistent and for that I give him some praise. In the meantime I’ll just laugh, because nobody does hypocrisy like the left.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 20, 2023 3:04 pm
Roger
Roger
June 20, 2023 3:05 pm

Roger, good job on finding this.

I keep an eye on that site, Buc.

Takes me back to my Trot days.

Vicki
Vicki
June 20, 2023 3:08 pm

Vanadium batteries have lagged far behind lithium ion batteries in commercialisation and are consequently more costly, but there are grid scale deployments in China and Japan, and ASX-listed Tivan aims to develop a huge vanadium deposit in WA and develop a battery manufacturing facility near Darwin.

Over twenty years ago my husband was involved with an idea to supply vanadium battery powered buses for the Sydney Olympics. At the time, as I recall, scientists involved with NSW University were actively trying to develop battery technology using Australian supplies of Vanadium. No one here seemed interested, but I believe vanadium powered batteries were developed for commercial use in Japan.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 20, 2023 3:10 pm

I hope that bag of nuts contained more than just traces!

Rabz
June 20, 2023 3:14 pm

A land tax, ideally an annual impost on the unimproved value of land, is far more efficient and equitable

I already pay land tax on the unimproved value of my land – and it’s about to increase by some ridiculous amount in the new financial year. Yes, it’s rolled into my council rates, but it is definitely there as the state revenue office sends a letter advising me of the inevitable exorbitant increase in it every three years.

Yet another tax increase in other words, so our beloved new labore government in NSW can piss it away on useless crap and equally useless overpaid bureaucrats. Just bloody wonderful.

Chris
Chris
June 20, 2023 3:16 pm

“In ya dreams!”

Yeah.
Tell him he’s dreaming.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2023 3:19 pm

Vanadium batteries are hopeless for anything mobile, and not great even for static batteries. Their energy density is ridiculously low. A vanadium battery bus would be silly, almost as silly as a hydrogen bus!

Labour’s Hydrogen Bus Breaks Down on Way to Green Event, Replaced by Diesel (19 Jun)

“Nothing green ever works” is becoming more than a cliche.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 3:21 pm

Colonel Crispin Berkasays:
June 20, 2023 at 2:04 pm
ML: Is that because they don’t charge you during black-outs?
BJ: You still pay the supply charge, even if there is no supply.

Fixed supply charge / network connection fee going up possibly because retailers expect more blackouts? Gotta cover those costs somehow.

Wait until the 10,000 kms of extra transmission lines gets added to the supply charge.

And there is no power for 12 or more hours a day.

And more transmission losses to be covered by the supply charge.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 20, 2023 3:21 pm

A motorcycle in this clip reminds me of Chips.

We only got to watch that show when visiting Oma on a trip from Carnarvon to Perth.

Cash!

—-

woof bark growl:

Cash 2.0 Great Dane at the LAPD Car Show 2023 (2 of 5)

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 20, 2023 3:25 pm

Looks like World Socialist Website has been a fake all along.

The Liberal Party didn’t ask any Higgins related questions today, so it looks like they’ve worked out it’s not a winner.
They did finally ask Linda Burney a few questions.
She sounds like she’s on the verge of a mental breakdown.

Vicki
Vicki
June 20, 2023 3:28 pm

Bruce – you are right about vanadium pentoxide batteries in buses, as they discovered. However, the Japanese (& I think in the US) bought the technology and have used it successfully commercially for energy storage.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 3:28 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 20, 2023 at 2:16 pm
Breaking faith with their subscribers by jumping aboard the
#SlanderHiggins bandwagon sounds like BudLight level stupidity.
Same with the Liberal Party.

Turd Case shills for both his favourite niece and the Labor Party.

Two for the price of one!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2023 3:29 pm

ADF leadership referred to International Criminal Court

If Lambie does nothing else, she’s justified her presence in parliament with this.

God bless her, and all who sail in her.
You write someone off and then they go and do something spot on like this.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 3:32 pm

2.48pm
Opposition asks Burney if Voice could advise on military matters
By Natassia Chrysanthos

Deputy Liberal leader Sussan Ley has pressed the government on the Voice to parliament on behalf of the opposition.

She asked Indigenous Affairs Minister Linda Burney during question time: “Will the Voice be able to make representations to the Chief of the Defence Force on military acquisitions, or the location or operation of military bases?”

Ley accused the Prime Minister of laughing at her and, after a brief interruption, asked her question again.

Burney responded by saying she could “only repeat what I have already said”.

“The Voice will make representations that affect Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people. But the Voice will not run programs, it will not deliver funding, and it will not deliver the power of veto,” she said.

“I can tell you what the Voice will not be giving advice on. It won’t be giving advice on parking tickets, it won’t be giving advice on changing Australia Day, it will not be giving advice on all of the ridiculous things that this side has come up with.”

Ley said it was a simple “yes or no” question, and that Burney could hand the question over to somebody else if she could not answer it. There was a brief eruption of noise.

The Speaker invited Burney to keep speaking.

“I will say this to the parliament,” Burney says. “When they go low, we go high.”

In response to another question, Burney said the Voice to parliament was about “doing things differently so that we can move the dial on a national shame in this country.”

“What we have in this nation is a group of people that are poorer, sicker, more incarcerated and die earlier than anyone else. The Voice and referendum is about doing things differently to change those things,” she said.

“If anyone wants to have a discussion with me about this issue, I have been available.”

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 20, 2023 3:40 pm

“I will say this to the parliament,” Burney says. “When they go low, we go high.”

That’s not what she said at all.

What she said was:

When they go hard, we go harder.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 3:41 pm

Compensation paid to landowners, for building the poles and wires on their property that are needed to connect new wind and solar projects to the electricity grid, has doubled to about $400,000 a kilometre, Mr Redman told an energy conference in Melbourne.

Hmmm. Plans for 10,000 kms, admittedly not all over farming land (the rest over national parks, wilderness areas etc). At $400,000 per km, for say 5,000 kms comes to $2,000,000,000. Put that on your supply charge and pay it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 20, 2023 3:43 pm

The Liberals shoulda gone after Burney weeks ago, rather than waste time and lose votes over who knew what and when about Higgins.

She’s got a hectoring manner, Labor are going to have to put her in Witness Protection sooner or later.

Indolent
Indolent
June 20, 2023 3:46 pm

Dr. John Campbell

Party time

calli
calli
June 20, 2023 3:49 pm

Raining here is Shropshire this morning…and we are off to [drumroll] Port Sunlight up on the Mersey.

I’ve been told the Lady Lever Gallery, and the entire model estate, is worth a look. The place has a remarkable history and encapsulates the type of philanthropy that blossomed along with the Industrial Revolution in Victorian and Edwardian England.

Hopefully our GPS recharging issues are resolved by a new converter bought yesterday. I’ll do a little description of both Shrewsbury and our adventures in Cheshire a bit later. Hoping to visit the Roman amphitheatre in Chester on the way back.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2023 3:49 pm

Robert Breunig is director of the Tax and Transfer Policy Institute at the Australian National University.

Robert Breunig is a tax hoover at the Australian National University.
Robert Breunig knows to play the exact tune his paymasters wish him to.
Robert Breunig Knows less tax = less opportunity for a wage increase for uni/gov catamites

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 3:52 pm

Burney

“I can tell you what the Voice will not be giving advice on. It … won’t be giving advice on changing Australia Day, i

Tell ‘er she’s dreaming. Australia Day will be one of the first issues raised by the InVoice.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 3:55 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 20, 2023 at 3:43 pm
The Liberals shoulda gone after Burney weeks ago, rather than waste time and lose votes over who knew what and when about Higgins.

I thought that the great Liberal supporter Turd Case woulda thought that his beloved Lieborals could walk and chew gum at the same time, but apparently Labor can.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2023 3:56 pm

Boambee…

the rest over national parks, wilderness areas etc

Guess who owns the parks etc in WA?
400,000 per km, come in sucker.

Pogria
Pogria
June 20, 2023 3:56 pm

Rabzsays:
June 20, 2023 at 2:17 pm
Crikey has a 50% discount on subs atm

Many of its erstwhile readers are now profoundly disgrundled.

Just a coincidence, I’m sure.

hehe, I saw what you did there Rabz. 😀

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
June 20, 2023 3:58 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 20, 2023 at 3:25 pm
Looks like World Socialist Website has been a fake all along.

The Liberal Party didn’t ask any Higgins related questions today, so it looks like they’ve worked out it’s not a winner.

Ed Case, to the left of Guy Rundle, who I’m guessing also thinks the parliament should debate actual issues not just the ones they think they will win, unlike Ed, the resident alp shill and purveyor of distraction squirrels.

Rundle wrote there was a “widespread perception” that the “process was rushed” for political purposes, including to “close the lid on any revelations concerning Labor involvement becoming a cause célèbre.”

Even Rundle can see that a government elected on a platform of transparency, but that participates in cover ups like this is a sham, not our Ed. Anyone got a bag of hammers?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 4:01 pm

4 hours ago
We never agreed to be governed, says Thorpe
Remy Varga

Independent senator Lidia Thorpe says Indigenous Australians never agreed to be governed by the “colonial Australian government” as she rejected the proposed voice to Parliament.

Senator Thorpe, one of the chief proponents of the No vote on the left, said on Tuesday that there had been no free, prior or informed consent to constitutional government.

“The voice advises on how the government can govern First Nations people but we have never agreed to be governed by the colonial Australian government and we do not acquiesce or surrender,” she said.

“Now the Voice is just a vehicle for unwanted constitutional recognition.

“We do not want to be part of the colonial constitution and the attempt to rule over us and our lands.

“This is not an invitation. We are the first peoples of these lands. These are our lands and our lives. The black sovereign movement.”

Conquered peoples don’t get much say in the matter.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 20, 2023 4:02 pm

No faith in the ICC at all. People referring to it as bastion of justice are retards. Yielding sovereignty is in play here.

Lambie is a nutcase and Roberts joined in. That’s a big f-up!

What’s next? The UN giving advice on climate change … oh wait

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2023 4:05 pm

Don’t forget to show your workings Special. Don’t just pull stuff out your arse. That’s where the real LOLs are.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 4:05 pm

Steve T

The WHO taking control of “pandemic” management?

local oaf
June 20, 2023 4:05 pm

2.48pm
Opposition asks Burney if Voice could advise on military matters

Didn’t albo say they’d only have a voice on stuff concerning them?

Obviously Labor thinks simple ignorant tribesmen wouldn’t care or understand about high falutin matters like defence or foreign policy.
After all, why would they care if they got invaded?

Standard Labor racism.

rosie
rosie
June 20, 2023 4:07 pm

Is Thorpey declaring war?
Good luck with that.
For all her grandstanding she’s only get what those just awful colonialists decide she’ll get.
Too much already.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 4:09 pm

Vicki says:
June 20, 2023 at 2:57 pm

Old Ozzie! Yay! You were missed & some were a bit worried about your health.

Vicki,

have been taken up with Grandkids, and 16 Enjoyable Days with Wife, visiting Son & Eldest GrandDaughter in Milan & Zuoz where Eldest Grandson has completed IB. and is in Mexico with Girlfriend and Eldest GrandDaughter is starting final year IB at Zuoz Intl School

Completed a number of Bucket List items with Son

His rented apartment in Milan – Via Amerigo Vespucci, 12, Milan – excellent near Grand Station (amazing place) and Tallest Building – easy walk to Duomo – Had breakfast on Obicà Mozzarella Bar – Duomo on top floor Rinascentre Department store overlooking Cathederal – another sight is the Starbucks in the Old Post Office – sitting in Bar upstairs overlooking floor –

Spent 2 nights in Venice in https://www.hotelaquariusvenice.com/ onto quiet little square to eat Gelati from nearby shop

Then drove via Padua, Vicenza, Verona to Zuoz – Whilst in Zuoz in my son’s house, changed cars from BMW X5 to Toyota Yaris GR Rallye and, he and I drove to HK Engineering in Polling near Munich – https://www.hk-engineering.com/en – Our Host Hans Kleissl treated us to lunch in their restaurant and he asked me what sort of food did I like -“Meat” – after entre the, what I thought was the main, meat pizza came – excellent with puff pastry outer -then an 800g Prime Rib appeared – absolutely melted, but coukd only get through half – Son ate rest.

HK-ENGINEERING is the only company worldwide that is dedicated to the restoration and maintenance of Mercedes-Benz 300 SL cars. That is why the company is now regarded, not only, as a forerunner and pioneer in the industry worldwide but also as the embodiment of exceptional expertise in the 300 SL.

Wife stayed with GrandDaughter and they went shopping to St Moritz

Wife’s bucket list was Bernina Express, so son dropped us at St Moritz Station amd picked us up at the end in Tirano and then back to Milan

Next day Father & Son to Ferrari Museum in Maranello – Wife went sightseeing around Milan

Then another Father & Son day to HK Enginnering Track Day at Prosche Experience Track in Brescia – amazing 300SL Guulwings including Le Mans one – Yaris GR was 15 Secs faster around the Track and a really beautiful Alfa R0meo 1948 6C Convertible plus many others – The number of Porsches in Garages and on Truck Loaders was amazing – aiming to get back for Porsche Track Experience day

We then went to Casa Di Langhe Hotel in Piedmont for 2 nights, and used as a base to go to Turin – having watched Netflix Lydia Poet Series set in Turin, Turin was probably my favourite Italian City – lot more peaceful than Milan, Rome & Naples and then visited hill top towns. We went to the FIAT Lingotto Factory which has been reimagined as a shopping mall by Renzo Piano who converted the factory into offices and a shopping mall – and obviously up to the top to the this distinctive Fiat test track on top of the building from a scene in the 1969 film ‘The Italian Job’ with Michael Caine, which was filmed in Turin. One of the shooting locations for the chase scene with the Minis near the end was the Turin Fiat factory.

Having stayed with Son & Family in Villas in Tuscanny, I actually liked Piedmont and it’s hilltop towns better.

Italy, food amazing and cheap – Coffee Euro 1.50 if standing, 2.50 if seated – restaurants were excellent

Milan area we were in appeared prosperous with loads of young people, kids and Women & Men elegantly dressed – Traffic Milan – what lanes – Vespas, Motorbikes, E-Bikes, E-Scooters all around you as you drove – Chaotic

Switzerland, Austria & Bavaria all show signs of prosperity

Drove from Casa Di Langhe Hotel via towns to Malpensa and Emirates A380 – Economy Milan to Dubai – no premium economy but same zone F as next leg Dubai to Sydney in Premium Economy 2 seats to side – excellent

Great Trip – good to restart overseas travel

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 4:09 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
June 20, 2023 at 4:01 pm
4 hours ago
We never agreed to be governed, says Thorpe
Remy Varga

Independent senator Lidia Thorpe says Indigenous Australians never agreed to be governed by the “colonial Australian government” as she rejected the proposed voice to Parliament.

As the first step towards taking up your “sovereignty”, please return, with interest, all funding provided since Federation.

A truly sovereign nation would always pay back its debts, as a matter of honour.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 4:11 pm

dover0beachsays:
June 20, 2023 at 4:08 pm
As for db quoting international laughing stock ISW, if they are your primary source you really are flailing.

When did ISW become a international laughing stock for the UKR side?

When it stopped slavishly repeating Ukie propaganda?

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 20, 2023 4:12 pm

Obviously Labor thinks simple ignorant tribesmen wouldn’t care or understand about high falutin matters like defence or foreign policy.
After all, why would they care if they got invaded?

Standard Labor racism.
In your haste to find a lame PC angle, you completely missed that Albanese was lying.

Johnny Rotten
June 20, 2023 4:13 pm

In response to another question, Burney said the Voice to parliament was about “doing things differently so that we can move the dial on a national shame in this country.”

“What we have in this nation is a group of people that are poorer, sicker, more incarcerated and die earlier than anyone else. The Voice and referendum is about doing things differently to change those things,” she said.

“If anyone wants to have a discussion with me about this issue, I have been available.”

Well, if 39 Billion Australian Dollars for the last year cannot do it, then what will? A louder Voice or a bigger Invoice hoisted onto the Australian Taxpayer.

Vote NO farking way to the Voice and vote for an Annual Audit on every Aboriginal ‘Charity’ (over 3,000 such Groups at the last count) funded by the Australian Taxpayer to see just where that money is being spent. That should shake up the Scammers and Grifters in the Aboriginal ‘Sit Down Money’ Industry.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
June 20, 2023 4:14 pm

I wonder what would happen if the voice said the ALP are a pack of racists that instituted the white australia policy and should disband their political party immediately, would the parliament have to listen? Would they have an argument in the high court?

We all know it will never happen though, because although it’s factually correct, the whole edifice is not built on a foundation of actual indigenous control, just the ones approved by the left.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 4:19 pm

As the first step towards taking up your “sovereignty”, please return, with interest, all funding provided since Federation.

As the second step to taking up your ‘sovereignty” fund your own police, medical, welfare and housing.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 20, 2023 4:22 pm

The White Australia Policy didn’t concern Aborigines at all.

It’s purpose was to exclude cheap Asian labour, which also served to provide employment for urban Aborigines.
It was the Policy that made Australia a great place to live.

BTW, the Immigration Minister announced that he just issued 7,900
Visas to Afghans, and he sees that figure as ‘a floor, not a ceiling’.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2023 4:23 pm

“This is not an invitation. We are the first peoples of these lands. These are our lands and our lives. The black sovereign movement.”

https://imgflip.com/i/7pxme1

https://imgflip.com/i/7pxn32

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 20, 2023 4:24 pm

Buy local.

One raw garlic clove a day.

Vicki
Vicki
June 20, 2023 4:24 pm

As the first step towards taking up your “sovereignty”, please return, with interest, all funding provided since Federation.

Don’t even joke about “Sovereignty.” Next thing they will be claiming sovereignty over everything under ground currently called “Crown” land – namely iron ore, coal, uranium, gold….need I go on?

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 20, 2023 4:27 pm

Well, if 39 Billion Australian Dollars for the last year cannot do it, …
The $39 Billion is mostly wages for White professionals and knock off $200,000 grants to people like Warren Entsch’s wife.

What’s the cost to Australia of keeping a Ten Pound ingrate like you out of the ground?

duncanm
duncanm
June 20, 2023 4:27 pm

Hmmm. Plans for 10,000 kms, admittedly not all over farming land (the rest over national parks, wilderness areas etc).

ha! That’d be land under the influence of Aboriginal corporations.

Try putting power lines over some ancient songline. We couldn’t even get Warragamba dam enlarged, due to the risk of their possibly being some scratching or cave paintings that no-one can cite or see.

$400k? Tell ’em they’re dreaming!

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 20, 2023 4:30 pm

Yet another example of the ABC acting as the mouthpiece for Lee Rhiannon’s Stalinist poodle and senatorial successor David Shoebridge:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-20/nsw-cemeteries-audit-catholic-trust/102500746

Vicki
Vicki
June 20, 2023 4:30 pm

BTW, the Immigration Minister announced that he just issued 7,900
Visas to Afghans, and he sees that figure as ‘a floor, not a ceiling’.

And Europe is starting to be concerned about a revival of Islamic terrorism because of the large scale entry of so many from the Middle East.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/06/is-isis-preparing-to-exploit-europes-open-borders/?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 4:34 pm
local oaf
June 20, 2023 4:36 pm

Ed Case

In your haste to find a lame PC angle, you completely missed that Albanese was lying.

Well, Duh!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 4:36 pm

Energy Industry

Bill Hero Update – July 1 Price Changes

The annual July 1 price reset has started early this year. Here’s our summary on what’s happening, and what you should do.

Many Bill Hero subscribers have received price change notices from their retailers over the past week or two and, understandably, are keen to get ahead of the July 1 price changes by switching to the best-priced plan available.

Here’s our summary of what’s happening and why you should wait before making any switch decision.

Our advice, for now, is to sit tight and wait until the end of the first week in July for the price changes to settle. We’ll help you find the best-priced plan when the new pricing landscape is clear.

Why do prices change in July?

Retail prices change across the NEM from July 1 every year, triggered by the annual regulated price change event for the electricity distributors, which update their rates for the carriage of electrons across their networks on 1 July every year.

Retailers are free to change their market offers anytime, but they all converge at this time of year — not because they’re obliged to change their pricing simultaneously in July, but because they are obliged to pay the network operators the new rates for the carriage of the electrons their customers consume, so they use this network price change as a trigger to review and reset their own retail prices.

The motivation for this is pretty obvious. Retailers bundle up all the underlying price elements for electricity supply — connection charges, consumption charges, and environmental scheme charges — into a single bill price, so when the cost of one of those underlying elements changes, they will ensure that their pricing accommodates the change.

Unfortunately, this year, we’re all facing dramatic price increases due to the continuing impact of the wholesale price shocks over the past year.

Many retailers have leapt out of the gates early, issuing price change notices well before July 1. Our experience from previous years is that additional knock-on price changes continue to occur after July 1 as the retailers adjust their pricing in response to competitor plans and prices as they become visible.

How to respond?

Every retailer will update their plans between now and week 1 of July, and we’re already seeing daily changes to the prices and plans in the market, and some retailers already issuing their price change notices.

It’s a tricky time to decide about switching, because a plan that looks good today may well announce new pricing tomorrow, making it much less attractive. So our advice is to wait until the dust settles.

Our advice to energy consumers is to sit tight until the end of the first week in July before making a switch decision.

It’s always hard to do nothing when you receive a price change notice warning of a major price uplift. Unfortunately, those price uplifts will impact every plan from every retailer, so there’s little benefit in switching early before the pricing landscape is clearly visible.

Better to wait until all the price changes are complete, then move to the best available plan.

As always, Bill Hero will help you find that best-priced plan once the dust has settled across the market. Things will become much clearer after the first week of July.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2023 4:39 pm

If Lydia Thorpe was a piece of music.
This would be her.
https://youtu.be/g0Q5JFHrGNk

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2023 4:41 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
June 20, 2023 at 4:19 pm
As the first step towards taking up your “sovereignty”, please return, with interest, all funding provided since Federation.

As the second step to taking up your ‘sovereignty” fund your own police, medical, welfare and housing.

Lots of munni already flows to indigenous groups from mining companies.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 20, 2023 4:41 pm

This is what constitutes “art” at Dark Mofo in Hobart.

It was at Night Mass, inside the Red Room around 1am Sunday, that performance artist and self-described “sex clown” Betty Grumble jumped on a small stage before 100 or so people.

To the soundtrack of a Prince classic, she cut off her clothes with scissors, lathered herself in soap suds, shaved her pubic hair and concluded by holding a handstand pose stark naked, legs akimbo – flowers protruding from inside her – while reciting a lengthy, moving poem. It was a freakish display of vulnerability and stamina, all conducted metres from unruffled bar staff who continued nonchalantly to mix cocktails. I’ll never hear Purple Rain the same way again.

The rest of the review contains even more descriptions of similar rubbish.

Oz

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
June 20, 2023 4:42 pm

The White Australia Policy didn’t concern Aborigines at all.

Aborigines didn’t mine the ground either, neither did they have a welfare system. Not stopping them from wanting to have a say on those things.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2023 4:43 pm

Red tape became green tape. Green tape soon to become blak tape.

m0nty
m0nty
June 20, 2023 4:43 pm

If two weeks in and all they have are remote villages still within RUS screening line, the offensive is a busted flush unless something miraculous occurs.

The Russian offensive went for many, many months, and you were still crowing about it right up until it ended in miserable failure. Two weeks is hardly decisive.

As for ISW, they have been consistently wrong in their analysis and get basic facts wrong all the time. They are part of the Establishment neocon Blob, which I have been led to believe is the enemy of the MAGAdonians, so we should really be uniting to shun these sort of old school Kissingerite shills for the military-industrial complex.

bespoke
bespoke
June 20, 2023 4:45 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
June 20, 2023 at 4:34 pm
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/06/combat-roles-equality-watch-this-female-v-male-marine-match-up.html

This one’s for military type Cats.

Chuckle snort!

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2023 4:46 pm

Top Ender – that explains why my recent Australia Council grant applications have been unsuccessful.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2023 4:52 pm

Further, if they did have notice you would simply allow them to fall into that trap, let them cross, and then isolate and destroy whatever crossed since RUS would still have the air and artillery advantage even if their troops were more sparse here.

Good points.
That would be a hell of a trap.

I do struggle to see a clear reason for the ukies to have blown it unless they were just going a rather belated scorched earth.

Vicki
Vicki
June 20, 2023 4:52 pm

Then another Father & Son day to HK Enginnering Track Day at Prosche Experience Track in Brescia – amazing 300SL Guulwings including Le Mans one – Yaris GR was 15 Secs faster around the Track and a really beautiful Alfa R0meo 1948 6C Convertible plus many others – The number of Porsches in Garages and on Truck Loaders was amazing – aiming to get back for Porsche Track Experience day

OMG!!! I am showing this post to my car mad husband – after he finishes rewatching one of his favourite movies – Gran Torino!

He will be very interested in HK Engineering. He visited Ferrari at Maranello years ago with a friend. But his greatest (life!) experience was being invited to the 3rd annual Pagani Zondo “rally” in 2007 from Milan to Monte Carlo, in which he actually got to drive a Zondo! He will be very envious of your visit to Brescia with the Porsches.

What a fabulous trip! We love Italy. Haven’t been for quite a few years now – but think we may look at renting a house again maybe next year, if the world is still in one piece. Last time it was in Tuscany, but think maybe down south or in Sicily this time.

Am so happy for you and your wife. A very, very special trip with family. Can’t ask for more, can we?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2023 4:57 pm
Top Ender
Top Ender
June 20, 2023 5:02 pm

If anyone wants to see the full Dark Mofo review just say. Amazing catalogue of gross idiocy.

Apparently funded by $7.5m from the Tasmanian government, cos it brings in lotsa visitors.

Well, so would a Coliseum event of lions tearing apart criminals, but we don’t fund that.

Who knows what sort of funding it attracts from the feds.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2023 5:11 pm

Apparently funded by $7.5m from the Tasmanian government, cos it brings in lotsa visitors.

A lot of people aren’t familiar with the law around endorsement of cheques.

bespoke
bespoke
June 20, 2023 5:11 pm

thefrollickingmolesays:
June 20, 2023 at 3:29 pm
ADF leadership referred to International Criminal Court

If Lambie does nothing else, she’s justified her presence in parliament with this.

God bless her, and all who sail in her.
You write someone off and then they go and do something spot on like this.

Silly deluded beady eyed mole. She is a dangerous nut trying to stir up confuntation like BLM mob does in the US.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 5:13 pm

EXCLUSIVE: Banky panky! Hunter Biden gave his passport details and income statements to Burisma executives to set up ACCOUNT with a ‘corrupt’ foreign bank that was shut down for breaking money laundering rules

. Ukrainian gas firm Burisma worked with Hunter Biden to set up an account in Malta at Satabank, emails from the First Son’s laptop reveal
. Satabank was shut down in 2018 after an investigation found ‘gross deficiencies’ in its adherence to the country’s anti-laundering and terror financing laws
. Emails show Hunter gave income statements, passport details and utility bills to a Burisma executive to set up an account at the now-defunct bank in 2016

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2023 5:14 pm

Never change gruiniad…

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jun/20/rise-women-freezing-eggs-uk
There has been a dramatic rise in the number of women freezing their eggs in the UK, while more single people are opting for IVF, figures show.

A report from the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (HEFA) found that more people than ever are undergoing procedures, with egg- and embryo-freezing the fastest-growing fertility treatments in Britain.

Egg-freezing and storage increased from 2,576 cycles in 2019 to 4,215 in 2021 (a 64% rise), while embryo storage also rose.

Some experts have said the Covid pandemic had a big impact on the numbers of women wanting to freeze their eggs in the hope of preserving their fertility.

Sarah Norcross, the director of the Progress Educational Trust, said: “The dramatic rise in the number of egg-freezing cycles could be linked to the pandemic. Restrictions on socialising may have prompted some women to think more about their fertile window and decide to try to increase their reproductive choices.”

The HFEA data shows there was a 10% rise in IVF and donor-insemination cycles between 2019 and 2021 (about 7,000 more cycles).

Meanwhile, the average age at which women have fertility treatment with IVF has risen to 36. This compares with an average age of almost 31 for women who conceive naturally.

They tried so hard to not say woman…

calli
calli
June 20, 2023 5:17 pm

It was a freakish display of vulnerability and stamina

Well, it was a freakish display of something. Possibly a human vase. Nothing a high pressure hose wouldn’t fix on account of wilting flowers.

One gets the impression that the bar staff have seen it all. Jaded sods.

In other weirdo news, a day away from mid summer and a massive rain front has swept through south west England. Damp druids and hippies and fire eaters looks like the way of Glastonbury yet again. Sad.

rosie
rosie
June 20, 2023 5:20 pm

Probably the same people sneer at people who go to live shows in Thailand.
It’s all ‘art’.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 5:23 pm

Tactical Nuclear Weapons: latest news from Russia

gilbertdoctorow Uncategorized June 19, 2023 21 Minutes

What I am about to say is surely known and under analysis in the American intelligence agencies. It is being used by the Pentagon to quietly change its nuclear force posture in Europe. However, we hear not a word about it in the media, not in mainstream, and not yet in alternative news.

I maintain that it is very important for it to be heard and reflected upon by the general public in the United States and in Europe, disagreeable though it may be at the start of a new week. So here goes…

Last Friday when I published my selective account of the Q&A session with President Vladimir Putin at the culmination point of the St Petersburg International Economic Forum I omitted one important issue: how Russia will respond to the dispatch of “Ukrainian” F-16s from some air base in a NATO country into the war zone in Ukraine. I was considering remedying that oversight on Saturday morning when a comment from one reader forced my hand. She wrote in that Italy’s daily newspaper La Repubblica quoted Putin as saying on Friday Russia will destroy such a base in response. I responded on Saturday in the Comments section that the Russian President had in fact been evasive in his comment, saying only that Russia could destroy such a base and was now taking the issue under advisement.

However, yesterday evening’s edition of the Vladimir Solovyov talk show indicates that the Republicca reporter was closer to the truth than I.

A patient and knowledgeable Russian colonel in retirement who is a frequent guest on the talk show explained that the Kremlin is now considering exactly with what means to destroy such a NATO air base, not whether to do it.

And the likely means will be use of tactical nuclear weapons on a Ramstein or whatever NATO base is involved. We may say that Germany is placing itself in the bulls-eye of any escalation in the Ukraine war if it proceeds with the F-16s to Ukraine program.

Why all the fuss over the F-16s, you may ask. After all, Putin has said loud and clear that Russia will destroy the F-16s in the air just as it has been destroying the Leopard tanks and America’s Bradley armored personnel carriers while pushing back the ongoing Ukrainian counter-offensive. To understand better, we have to thank the good colonel once again. He alerted us to an important detail that you will not find mentioned in The New York Times: the first F-16s scheduled to be supplied to the Ukrainian Air Force are from Belgium and Denmark, and are all nuclear-capable, which is not a necessary feature of these planes. Since the Russians are unable to determine what kind of munitions the “Ukrainian” F-16s will actually be delivering to the war zone, they must assume that they are carrying tactical nuclear bombs intended to be dropped on the Russian Army troop concentrations. The effect of such an attack could be devastating, hence the Russian threat to the air bases from which such planes are launched.

The next important revelation made during the Solovyov show came with respect to the first delivery of tactical nuclear weapons to Minsk which was marked by a visit to Belarus and interview with Lukashenko by the co-host of the Sixty Minutes news and discussion show Olga Skabeyeva. In answer to her question about where the nuclear warheads are being stored, Lukashenko said ‘everywhere.’ The meaning of this was kindly deciphered for us laymen by the colonel in retirement on the Solovyov program: this signifies a cardinal shift in the Russian handling of tactical nuclear arms away from their traditional separation of the warheads kept in a central storage far from the delivery carriers to the method used by the U.S. military with respect to its tactical nuclear weapons in Europe. The Americans, he said stored the nukes just under the jets that would be used to deliver them. Now in Belarus, the warheads will also be just next to the planes and Iskander missiles that will carry them. This means that the time to launch will depend only on the time for approval from the Boss. And with respect to that, Lukashenko told Skabeyeva that he had just to make a phone call to Vladimir Vladimirovich and approval would be instantaneous.

Why such a hair-trigger mechanism for unleashing nuclear weapons to defend Belarus? For an answer to that, go to today’s article in The Financial Times on how Poland is now preparing hundreds of Belarus fighters to go across the border and overthrow Lukashenko. To which I can only say: Warsaw, watch out! Lukashenko is one bold and decisive defender of his country, as his standing on the streets with a Kalashnikov in his hands when there were Western financed and promoted street demonstrations in Minsk aiming to overthrow him.

rosie
rosie
June 20, 2023 5:24 pm

I got swooped twice by a wattle bird from car in drive to front door this afternoon.
Didn’t know they were snoopers.
Must have build a nest in my front garden.
Why can’t we just be friends?

Arky
June 20, 2023 5:26 pm

What Russian offensive?

..
The “gweat big winter battle of encirclement to destroy the Ukrainian army in the field”. Remember?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2023 5:29 pm

dover0beachsays:
June 20, 2023 at 5:21 pm

All those moves are suggesting spoiling moves or admissions of defeat/lost territory.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 20, 2023 5:29 pm

A lot of people aren’t familiar with the law around endorsement of cheques.

A field of study with rapidly declining interest, given that Australia will phase out cheques by 2030.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 20, 2023 5:30 pm

Here’s why women should not be in combat situations.

H/t Michael Smith News

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2023 5:31 pm

GreyRangasays:

June 20, 2023 at 9:30 am

Those considering Japan for a holiday, Japan Guide is an excellent site get yourself a JR pass for rail travel. It’s easier to stay in one place and use the train to go out to other places. 

I think a frequent visitor to Japan (not Razey-san) told me you need a suburban rail pass for the subway and another for inter-city travel.
Is this right?
(I may not have been paying full attention at the time).
We are going to several cities … Tokyo-Kyoto-Hiroshima-Kanazawa-Takayama … so will be doing a fair bit of train travel.
Some bullet train.
Some not bullet train.

Arky
June 20, 2023 5:31 pm

I’m increasingly of the opinion that Putin doesn’t need an out; Zelensky does. We are probably a 2-4 weeks away from a major battle south of Izyum. Russia is redeploying its 1st Guard Tank Army into the area. They are going to create a cauldron enveloping a third to half of the Ukrainian Army and once that is finished, they are likely to seek out the UKR in the field until it surrenders or is destroyed.

..
I’m not saying you’re wrong about the final outcome. I just don’t know.
But I do know you are into about your fourth iteration of completely wrong predictions on this the various phases so far in this war.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 5:33 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2023 5:34 pm

I got swooped twice by a wattle bird from car in drive to front door this afternoon.
Didn’t know they were snoopers.
Must have build a nest in my front garden.

Starting early! I believe you: today I had a noisy at my office window collecting spider webs to line her nest. Spider webs are hard to come by at the Cafe since the noisies have eaten almost all the spiders. But one danger-defying house spider does have a precarious existence on the outside of my office window. It was fun watching her carefully grab up the strands, then after she’d gotten enough of them she took off to do a bit of nest engineering.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 5:35 pm

First Tangible Sign that NATO “Exercise” May Go to LIVE WAR with Russia in 4 Days

HAL TURNER – 19 JUNE 2023

The first tangible sign that the ongoing NATO “exercise” dubbed “Air Defender 2023” will go “live” to direct war with Russia, has come out: British mass-media outlet SKY NEWS is running a piece calling for Western Air Power to directly enter the Ukraine war and bomb Russians.

On Sky News, an Op-Ed piece lays it out. The piece is titled:

Western intervention is the only credible way to protect Ukraine’s counteroffensive from Russian air power

It lays out all the pertinent facts as to why Ukraine stands NO CHANCE AT ALL of defeating Russia, and concludes “Kyiv needs modern air power, not a squadron or so of second-hand F-16 platforms that are neither supportable nor credible, against modern, stealthy Russian fighters.”

Written by Sky News “Military Analyst” Sean Bell, the piece introduces to readers the notion that the West entering the Ukraine Conflict with air power is “needed.”

(HT REMARK: Folks, Western Media Outlets do not — E V E R — print things like this unless they have been told to do so by government

. As you might guess, government plants stories like this to begin to mold and manipulate public opinion, because not only does government WANT to do something, it INTENDS to do it. They want to prime the public to have this in their minds.)

What I see going on here is a coming media blitz, to manipulate the general public into preparing for, or expecting, Western air power intervention into the conflict.

That a UK Media Outlet is the first step in this process is no surprise; the UK has been at the forefront of every step of the escalation in Ukraine.

Conspicuously absent from the Sky News piece are the exact, precise CONSEQUENCES of such a move: World War 3, that will go nuclear.

Today is June 19. NATO’s ongoing air exercise “Air Defender 2023” is scheduled to be completed THIS FRIDAY, June 23.

I have been warning for weeks that I think NATO and the collective West will either find an excuse — or make one — to convert that air “exercise” into a LIVE war with Russia.

My logic was simple; governments of NATO did not move three-hundred-thousand troops, and with “Air Defender 23” 225 war planes and air crews consisting of ten-thousand men, over to Europe, just two small countries away from the Russia-Ukraine conflict, as an “exercise.”

When governments move that many troops, tanks, artillery guns, armored personnel carriers, planes, and air crews, THEY INTEND TO USE THEM.

I even reported to you last week, that NATO created a temporary refueling station in Wunstorf, Germany, loaded with 2.4 MILLION Liters of aviation fuel! For an “exercise?????” Uhhhhhh, no.

Now we see a major piece in a major British media outlet, Sky News, taking the first step to putting in the public mind, the idea of NATO Air Power entering the Ukraine-Russia conflict.

That Sky News Op-Ed piece can be read at its source, HERE.

Make no mistake, Russia has long anticipated something like this and they explicitly told us “If Article 5 Collective Self Defense is activated against Russia, and NATO conventional troops enter the conflict, Russia will have no choice but to use its nuclear weapons.”

They’ve told us this over, and over, and over again.

Right now, NATO has at least 225 aircraft taking part in the largest air drill in its history, in Germany; just two small countries away from the Russia-Ukraine conflict. NATO has also positioned three-hundred-thousand (300,000) troops near Russia’s border. You don’t move those numbers of troops and planes, then not use them.

NATO has supported Ukraine, but is losing, badly. Ukraine’s __only__ hope is if NATO becomes directly involved in the conflict, and if that happens, Russia has already made clear, it will use nuclear weapons to defend itself. Those weapons will not merely be used in Ukraine, they will be sent to NATO countries . . . . including the USA.

Some people erroneously believe Russia would never hit the US because of mutually assured destruction, but that notion is no longer true.

Russia has hypersonic missiles, the USA does not.

Russia’s hypersonic missiles can avoid our missile defenses.

calli
calli
June 20, 2023 5:38 pm

You will need to check each sector, Sancho because different companies. Tokyo is a case in point, as you may need a couple if different tickets to get where you want to go if you need to change lines.

Just in case of another GPS failure, I have taken a series of screen shots of our route today. Tempted to take emergency rations in case we’re stranded in the inhospitable English countryside. 😀

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 20, 2023 5:42 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says: June 20, 2023 at 5:33 pm

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/06/great-research-from-seeker-of-truth-on-the-voice-architect-thomas-mayo-his-communist-roots.html
Seems the good Thomas Mayo was as red as an Indian’s bum.

All consistent with information uncovered last year, and which I commented this morning (link for the evening shift Cats), that points to the 1992 Rio Earth Summit Agenda 21 as being the prime mover behind the ATSIVtP aka InVoice.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 5:44 pm

Biden Doesn’t Know What Year It Is, Has to Be Led Around by the Hand

Joe Biden was again at his beach house in Delaware for more vacation over the weekend.

He then left there on Monday and flew to Santa Clara County, California, to deliver remarks about climate change and the environment. He’s later scheduled to go to a campaign reception. At his climate remarks were Rep. Anna Eshoo (D-CA) and California Gov. Gavin Newsom (who some think may be pushing something of a shadow campaign to take over if Biden can’t continue his campaign).

But the time in Delaware doesn’t seem to have rejuvenated him. What he said prompted more calls for him to step aside and for people to invoke the 25th Amendment.

“And maybe most important,” Biden said, “I’m committed that by 2020, we will have conserved 30 percent of all the lands and waters the United States has jurisdiction over, and simultaneously reduce emissions to blunt climate impact.”

What year is it? He doesn’t even seem to know. But hey, he’s going to conserve 30 percent by then.

It got worse. He couldn’t even complete whatever sentence and point he was trying to make here.

“A couple of businesses are suing banks because they wanna consider whether or not you’re environmentally— anyway, I won’t get into all that,” Biden says. That’s his tell, for whenever he can’t complete his sentence, either because he doesn’t remember what he was supposed to say or he knows he was about to say something bad. He fills in with, “Anyway, I won’t get into that,” or “Anyway, I’m talking too long.”

He repeated something that he seems to be concentrating on lately, claiming that climate change is “THE existential threat to humanity. THE existential threat to humanity.”

I guess we can just forget about nuclear weapons and white supremacy now. When he’s pandering to a climate audience, those other threats he talks about when he panders to other audiences don’t exist.

Then Rep. Anna Eshoo physically pulled Biden across the stage like a three-year-old child who needed to be led to meet with attendees after his remarks.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2023 5:47 pm

Some people erroneously believe Russia would never hit the US because of mutually assured destruction, but that notion is no longer true.

Russia has hypersonic missiles, the USA does not.

Awesome, the Russians would have 20 minutes to celebrate before the counterstrike hit….

I feel like Im stuck in a bad Dredd knockoff.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2023 5:50 pm

Rogersays:

June 20, 2023 at 2:10 pm

Crikey has a 50% discount on subs atm

Just a coincidence, I’m sure.

I can remember when Crikey! was the brave new world of innernets and was going to rule the world.
How is that working out?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 5:51 pm

Why Nepalis Are Fighting on Both Sides of the Russia-Ukraine War

A long tradition of serving in foreign militaries – and a lack of options at home – has drawn young Nepalis into the conflict.

Almost one month after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, reports emerged that a Nepali youth named Pratap Basnet was fighting for Ukraine. His story was widely noticed in Nepal. Nepal’s stated foreign policy is neutrality and non-alignment. However, on the Ukraine issue, Nepal’s government sided with the United States and the Western world to criticize Russia’s military attack on Ukraine’s territory.

Recently, evidence has emerged of Nepali youths joining Russian forces. On May 16, Russia authorities made it easy to access Russian citizenship after one year of military service in Russia. Since then, hundreds of Nepali youths have joined Russian forces as contract soldiers. Some of them are retired from the Nepal Army.

One Nepal Army retiree said he was working as a security guard in Dubai when he was lured to Russia by the more attractive offers. He traveled to Moscow as a tourist and joined the army at a Russian recruitment center. He noted that lowered standards made it possible for him to enlist. “Previously they would look for Russian language proficiency. Now English is also okay for it,” the retiree told me over Telegram. (He later blocked me after deciding against further contact with a journalist).

He is now in a military training camp in Russia. “Training is not hard for me as I have gone through similar training in Nepal Army also,” he said. “But weapons here are more modern than what I would get in Nepal Army training.”

There is no publicly available data on the number of Nepali youths joining Russian forces. But it is an open secret that Nepali youths are enlisting as private citizens.

m0nty
m0nty
June 20, 2023 5:53 pm

What Russian offensive?

Hahahaha, you clown. How many times did you post word “pincer” during the last six months. You have been doing a premature victory dance all the way through the northern winter.

It took Russia what, ten months to take Bakhmut and they don’t even control all of that. You want to declare the Uke offensive dead after a fortnight? LOL.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2023 5:55 pm

Biden Doesn’t Know What Year It Is, Has to Be Led Around by the Hand

The Dems are big on elder abuse at the moment.

YOU HEARD IT. THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE PARTY OF LIVING CORPSES: Sheldon Whitehouse: Dianne Feinstein Should Not Resign No Matter What Because We Need Judges Confirmed.

The zombie apocalypse has started. In a partisan way.

Feinstein looks more out of it than even Senator Uncle Fester. I don’t think she knows what day it is let alone what year. Not surprising that Dem voters want Biden for their 2024 candidate: he’s a perfect puppet, if his body holds together long enough.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 20, 2023 5:56 pm

If you are going to Osaka I can direct you to my favourite restaurant. In Amerika-mura amazingly.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 6:00 pm

Why Europe’s falling power, wealth may be irreversible

From technology to energy to capital markets and universities, the European Union cannot compete with the United States.

Gideon Rachman Columnist

The Ukraine war has revived the transatlantic alliance. But the relationship between the US and its European allies is increasingly lopsided.

The US economy is now considerably richer and more dynamic than the EU or Britain – and the gap is growing. That will have an impact well beyond relative living standards. Europe’s dependence on the US for technology, energy, capital and military protection is steadily undermining any aspirations the EU might have for “strategic autonomy”.

In 2008, the EU and the US economies were roughly the same size. But since the global financial crisis, their economic fortunes have dramatically diverged. As Jeremy Shapiro and Jana Puglierin of the European Council on Foreign Relations point out: “In 2008 the EU’s economy was somewhat larger than America’s: $US16.2 trillion versus $US14.7 trillion.

By 2022, the US economy had grown to $US25 trillion, whereas the EU and the UK together had only reached $US19.8 trillion. America’s economy is now nearly one-third bigger. It is more than 50 per cent larger than the EU without the UK.”

The aggregate figures are shocking. Underpinning them is a picture of a Europe that has fallen behind – sector by sector.

The European technology landscape is dominated by US companies such as Amazon, Microsoft and Apple. The seven largest tech companies in the world, by market capitalisation, are all American. There are only two European companies in the top 20 – ASML and SAP.

Whereas China has developed domestic tech giants of its own, European champions are often acquired by American companies. Skype was bought by Microsoft in 2011; DeepMind was bought by Google in 2014. The development of AI is also likely to be dominated by US and Chinese companies.

The leading universities that feed the pipeline of tech start-ups in the US are lacking in the EU. The Shanghai and THE rankings of the world’s top universities both have only one EU institution in the top 30. (Britain does better – courtesy of Cambridge, Oxford, Imperial and others.)

In 1990, Europe made 44 per cent of the world’s semiconductors. That figure is now 9 per cent; compared with 12 per cent for the US. Both the EU and the US are rushing to build up their capabilities.

But while the US is expected to have 14 new semiconductor plants come on stream by 2025, Europe and the Middle East will add just 10 – compared with 43 new facilities in China and Taiwan.

Both the US and the EU are looking to turn this situation around with ambitious industrial policies that provide public finance and incentives for chip manufacturers and producers of electric vehicles.

But the dollar’s status as the world’s reserve currency gives the Americans the ability to finance their ambitions, without spooking the markets.

As one European industrialist puts it: “They can just swipe the credit card.” The EU, by contrast, has a much smaller budget and has only just begun issuing common debt.

Private capital is also much more readily available in the US. Paul Achleitner, chairman of Deutsche Bank’s global advisory board, says that Europe is now “almost totally dependent on US capital markets”.

He tells me that Europe has very few of the large pension funds that give depth to the US capital markets, adding that: “If you want to get anything sizeable done – whether it is an acquisition or an IPO – you always go back to American investors.”

The EU has spoken a lot about creating a “capital markets union” to give Europe some of the scale of the US. But progress has been feeble.

Unlike Europe, the US also has plentiful and cheap domestic supplies of energy. The shale revolution means the US is now the world’s largest producer of oil and gas.

Meanwhile, energy prices in Europe have soared.

The Ukraine war and the loss of cheap Russian gas mean that European industry typically pays three or four times as much for energy as their US competitors. Gloomy European bosses say this is already leading to factory closures in Europe.

Some in Britain may be tempted to see all this as proof that, inside the EU, Britain was “shackled to a corpse” and that Brexit was a good move.

But, outside the European single market, Britain suffers from an exaggerated version of the problems of scale that are hobbling the EU itself. British industry is already falling behind, as a result.

So, are there really no areas where Europe is a world leader? Some point proudly to the fact that the size of the EU single market means that companies all over the world have had to adopt European regulations – the so-called “Brussels effect”. But it would clearly be better to lead the world in creating wealth, rather than regulating it.

Europe does outperform in “lifestyle” industries. Almost two-thirds of the world’s tourist arrivals are into Europe. The luxury goods market is dominated by European companies. Football, the world’s most popular sport, is dominated by European teams – although many of the biggest clubs are now owned by Middle Eastern, US or Asian investors.

Europe’s dominance of lifestyle industries underlines that life in the old continent is still attractive for many.

But perhaps that is part of the problem. Without a greater sense of threat, Europe may never summon the will to reverse its inexorable decline in power, influence and wealth.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2023 6:03 pm

KD earlier:-

And while Smith was fielding for the Aussies, he had wandered towards the notorious Eric Hollies stand. The crowd promptly found their voice as he took up his position.

They could be heard chanting: “Cry on the telly, we saw you cry on the telly.

“Cry on the telly, we saw you cry on the telly.”

Nice.
Very nice.
I also like (to the tune of “Whole World in His Hands”) …
“He’s got sandpaper, in his hands”

Arky
June 20, 2023 6:03 pm

Into my fourth, wow. I know that is false because I’ve been reluctant to predict any future operation since that post,

..
April ‘22:

They are going to create a cauldron enveloping a third to half of the Ukrainian Army and once that is finished, they are likely to seek out the UKR in the field until it surrenders or is destroyed.

..
Sept ‘22:

the Kherson counter-offensive hit a wall on Day 1, suffered heavy casualties, lack the overwhelming force to conduct a successful offensive over open ground,

..
Oct ‘22:

My take on this is that UKR’s window for offensive operations is rapidly closing and that RUS is going to be move forward with offensive operations within the next four weeks or so.

..
Making the current predictions either your fifth or sixth probably. I don’t read your blog much anymore to know.

P
P
June 20, 2023 6:05 pm

The Voice is a Trojan Horse!
Our country and our Future are under threat. We must fight the ‘Voice’!

GEORGE CHRISTENSEN
JUN 17, 2023

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2023 6:05 pm

Feinstein looks more out of it than even Senator Uncle Fester.

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In all seriousness look at the hands.
There is no flesh left between the bones.
That things on a turbo express to the same embalmers as Ginsberg.

m0nty
m0nty
June 20, 2023 6:08 pm

Let me tell you a secret about intelligence, db. Personal intelligence, not the military tautology.

You have to respect your own ignorance. If you are arrogant enough to gloss over the holes in your own knowledge, you may sometimes get lucky when things fall your way, but more often you will look like a goose.

You are pretending that garbled reports from partisans are definitive proof of military victory for your mob. This makes you look supremely wrong-headed, even before you are proven right or wrong by subsequent events. Your mind is full of bad processes. You want things to be true, jumping in bum first to the fog of war without knowing if you’re going to land in a pool or on a land mine.

A bit of circumspection is in order, lest you be considered a credulous fool.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
June 20, 2023 6:09 pm

No faith in the ICC at all. People referring to it as bastion of justice are retards. Yielding sovereignty is in play here.

Steve, I doubt that anyone with an ounce of common sense has any faith in the ICC. That isn’t the point.

Like all “international institutions” the ICC is revered by the left. See above.

The referral is thus a simple, and possibly effective, Alinsky play. There’s zero chance the ICC will take it on, and less than that of some “sovereignty in play” outcome.

Just good politics. And them’s words I never thought I’d say about Lambie. Strange times.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 20, 2023 6:09 pm

Opinion

Traditional landowners won’t tolerate wind and solar ‘carpeting’

Alan Finkel’s unrealistic energy transition vision should jolt the country into common-sense solutions such as gas and nuclear power.

Nyunggai Warren Mundine – Indigenous advocate

Former Chief Scientist Dr Alan Finkel has written a new book outlining how Australia can transition to a wind and solar-powered future.

In the introduction he outlines his vision of Australia’s future as follows: “Think forests of wind farms carpeting hills and cliffs from sea to sky. Think endless arrays of solar panels disappearing like a mirage into the desert.

“What we have now has to be scaled up by a factor of 20 … It will take untold miles of high-voltage transmission lines to carry the electricity to power the mines and factories and the 24-hour buzz of civilisation. It will take engagement with and support for affected communities; financing at an unprecedented scale.”

Finkel’s vision leaves many questions. And it’s one I don’t believe will be acceptable to most Australians or to the traditional owners of much of the land and sea to be carpeted over.

Finkel rejects nuclear power, believing it’s not realistic in Australia before 2040, by which time he’s confident we won’t need it.

I believe this confidence is misplaced. A key factor in the timing of transitioning to wind and solar is building new transmission lines.

In a recent interview on 3AW, former Australian Energy Council chief executive Matthew Warren said Australia had already used up the existing grid infrastructure’s capacity for new renewables and needed to build out the grid with 10,000 kilometres of new transmission lines into remote Australia. This will connect the wind and solar carpet in Finkel’s vision to the grid.

But Warren also said we could only build 500-600 kilometres of transmission lines a year and that it’s not simple or realistic to speed this up. This takes us to 2040 to 2043 at the earliest.

People promoting this future seem to look at Australia’s remote country the same way the colonists looked at it in the 1800s.

The fact is it will likely take much longer than expected.

One factor in the delay of Snowy 2.0 is the considerable opposition to new overhead transmission lines through Kosciuszko National Park.

I believe there’ll be objections across the entirety of the 10,000 kilometres of new lines and demands to put them underground, where feasible, but at four to 10 times greater cost.

By contrast, nuclear plants could be built on the sites of decommissioned coal plants already connected to the grid.

Finkel has cited the International Energy Agency’s estimate that reaching net zero by 2050 requires annual investment globally to more than triple by 2030 to $US4 trillion ($6.1 trillion) a year, for a total of $US100 trillion by 2050, but he dismisses this as capital investment that will generate returns and reduce annual expenditure on fossil fuels.

But much of the capital invested into carpeting Australia with wind turbine forests and solar power arrays will need to be found again and again because wind and solar plants have a much shorter lifespan than baseload power alternatives, and their lifespan in practice tends to be shorter than promised.

No sooner than the carpet is laid, we’ll be scrambling to extract no less than 24 separate minerals required to build its replacement (including 220 tonnes of coal required to build each new wind turbine).

We’ll need even more electricity to manufacture this new carpet or, more likely, will import it from countries with cheaper, abundant electricity not produced by wind and solar.

When politicians say renewables are the cheapest form of electricity, they ignore most of the costs of new transmission lines, decommissioning and replacement.

But someone has to pay them or there’s no return on capital invested. That someone will be electricity consumers and taxpayers.

This wind and solar carpet will be made up of steel, concrete, plastics, resins, chemicals and other materials, many of which are hazardous (including when broken up on decommissioning).

Decommissioning presents significant additional costs and logistical headaches, assuming the plant owner actually does it.

Exactly where will these country-sized carpets of hazardous waste be disposed of? Recycling and reuse is costly and unviable.

And it’s not good enough to assume future innovation will make it viable just because we want it to.

Nuclear waste has three advantages. Firstly, unlike other industrial waste, radioactivity reduces over time. After 40 years, the radioactivity of high level waste decreases to one-thousandth of the original levels and low and intermediate waste (about 97 per cent of the waste) ceases to be hazardous at all.

Secondly, nuclear energy produces a tiny volume of waste which is all solid. All the spent fuel rods from US commercial reactors since the 1950s could be stacked together less than 10 metres high on a single football field. And spent rods can be stored at the plant.

Thirdly, there’s proven technology to reuse spent fuel rods as an energy source in itself.

It’s therefore completely irrational that cost and waste is used to reject nuclear power out of hand.

But the real problem with Finkel’s vision is most Australians won’t tolerate it.

They won’t tolerate ongoing skyrocketing costs and winters of blackouts while they wait for some theoretically cheaper (but only if you ignore a lot of the costs that have to be paid for) electricity in decades to come.

And they won’t tolerate a country carpeted with wind farms and solar panels filled with hazardous materials. They’ll regard this as environmental desecration and destruction on a grand scale. Because it is.

I especially don’t believe the Aboriginal traditional owners who have rights over, and are custodians of, much of the land and sea that will be carpeted over will tolerate it either.

People promoting this future seem to look at Australia’s remote country the same way the colonists looked at it in the 1800s: a vast expanse of nothing that’s available for their own pet projects. It’s not.

People have been living in a fantasy world for too long. Politicians and industry leaders haven’t been honest with people. And they’ve been ignoring, and too often demonising, the reliable low and no-emission energy sources of gas and nuclear which have a proven ability to provide abundant electricity within the existing grid, with known costs profiles and a track record of safety and cradle-to-grave management.

Had Australia’s leadership already taken steps to move to gas and nuclear, we’d be well on the way to net zero, energy independence and abundant electricity and, we wouldn’t have lost so many high energy consuming industries offshore.

We can’t make up that lost time. But perhaps Finkel’s vision will jolt this country into some sense.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2023 6:09 pm

Seems the “Yes” campaign are distancing themselves from Mr Mayo and his comments, as fast as they can.

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