Open Thread – Tues 20 June 2023


The Battle of Waterloo: The British Squares Receiving the Charge of the French Cuirassiers, Henri Félix Emmanuel Philippoteaux, 1874

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Indolent
Indolent
June 21, 2023 5:59 pm
Indolent
Indolent
June 21, 2023 6:06 pm
Indolent
Indolent
June 21, 2023 6:10 pm
bespoke
bespoke
June 21, 2023 6:11 pm

@OccupyDemocrats get rightfully dragged for ghoulish attempt to tie Elon Musk to missing Titanic sub

This could be libel, bro.

Indolent
Indolent
June 21, 2023 6:12 pm
Indolent
Indolent
June 21, 2023 6:14 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 21, 2023 6:15 pm

Only idiots are still wearing face masks

Yes.

Chile Brings Back Mask Mandate for Schoolchildren Due to RSV Outbreak (20 Jun)

Faced with a ‘severe’ RSV outbreak and a possible imminent rise in flu cases, Chile has decided that all schoolchildren above the age of five must return to wearing a mask. Adults are exempt – save for the requirement to wear one in health centres, which is now a permanent measure.

They never stop. They never admit error. To mask schoolkids to not prevent the common cold is a crime of Biblical proportions, especially with what we know of the harm the wretched things cause. Chile’s government are lefties of course.

Indolent
Indolent
June 21, 2023 6:16 pm
Crossie
Crossie
June 21, 2023 6:18 pm

Indolent says:
June 21, 2023 at 6:15 pm
Ron DeSantis Privately Tells Corporate Donors He Is Against U.S Tariffs on Chinese Goods

That will hurt him with ordinary Republican voters who want their industries back.

Indolent
Indolent
June 21, 2023 6:20 pm

The perfect description of the whole climate boondoggle.

Native Americans: Domestic Lithium Mining Is “Green Colonialism”

miltonf
miltonf
June 21, 2023 6:20 pm

So De Santis is just another RINO

Razey
Razey
June 21, 2023 6:22 pm

‘Likely signs of life have been detected’: Rescue plane hunting Titanic sub with five on board ‘hears banging’ every 30 minutes near wreck site, giving ‘hope’ the men are ALIVE – but redirected drones fail to find missing vessel

The men are or will be no more. Even if they located them, I doubt there is a recovery vehicle available that could do the job, let alone doing it within 30 hours.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
June 21, 2023 6:22 pm

I am doubtful a car dealership or conveyancer wants cheques anymore. I did see a bank manager write a bank cheque to his own bank because an underling had not cleared funds when my mate bought a new car ages ago; I gave him a lift because he already sold his old 2000 Mitsi Magna.

I paid for a new car 3 months ago with cheque, wanted to do eft but it was too complicated due to transaction limits. In the end it was easier to pay with bank cheque and that was preferred by the dealer.

Cassie of Sydney
June 21, 2023 6:28 pm

Tom, I would argue that Paul Kelly has and is doing a pretty decent job in the Oz picking apart the Voice and the Higgins’ crap.

As for “the fundamental problem with the Voice is that it’s being promoted by radicals and the Australian middle class“….you’re right about the radicals, but I would argue that it isn’t the “middle class”, it’s the wealthy, such as those in my own electorate who are parroting and promoting da Voice.

As an aside, a friend of mine, who’s also a constituent here in Wentworth, sent a letter to Spender’s office last week asking, very reasonably, that Spender fulfill her election promise of more transparency and honesty and push to have the Higgins payout sent to the new federal ICAC.

The reply she got back is beyond a joke, I’ve read it and it’s quite sickening. Basically Spender and her minions think Brittany is the victim here, Lehrmann is guilty, and the only travesty is that Shazza and Knickerless’ texts etc were leaked to the media.

Don’t let anyone ever tell you that Svengali Simon’s whores are “independents”, they’re Labor stooges. Labor, before the election, pulled off two quite masterful coups, one was the grotesque politicisation of a rape allegation and the second one was their involvement with the Teal frauds, and make no mistake, I believe Labor had a hand in that. It worked a treat, we’ll see what happens in two years time.

cohenite
June 21, 2023 6:29 pm

Reminds me of my six year old playing with dollies.

Don’t project dickless; you’re the one playing with dollies.

miltonf
miltonf
June 21, 2023 6:33 pm

Of course suspender belt is true blue lieboral ‘pedigree’.

eric hinton
eric hinton
June 21, 2023 6:35 pm

Anyway, MotoGP was exciting on the weekend. If you need to brush up on your Italian here is Carlo Pernat’s take.

miltonf
miltonf
June 21, 2023 6:43 pm

The turdburger evil ex child reminds me of a hooded cobra getting ready to strike

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 21, 2023 6:44 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
June 21, 2023 at 6:28 pm
Tom, I would argue that Paul Kelly has and is doing a pretty decent job in the Oz picking apart the Voice and the Higgins’ crap.

As for “the fundamental problem with the Voice is that it’s being promoted by radicals and the Australian middle class“….you’re right about the radicals, but I would argue that it isn’t the “middle class”, it’s the wealthy, such as those in my own electorate who are parroting and promoting da Voice.

I think that Tom omitted a comma between “radicals” and “and”. The rest of the sentence refers to the middle class belief in families and (the Fat Fascist Fool excepted) their lack of enthusiasm for radicals.

The comma would clarify.

Pogria
Pogria
June 21, 2023 6:58 pm

Indolent,
quite a few excellent links today. You have been busy. Kudos.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 21, 2023 7:03 pm

The worker Soviet at the ABC must be getting worried about their comrades at former Fairfax. The Sydney Morning Herald today had a piece this morning about NSW police investigations of child sex crimes. It reported that the NSW police have arrested on average ten alleged offenders a week over the past year. Good for the police, it goes without saying. More strength to their arm.

But guess what? None of them as far as I can tell is a clergyman of any denomination, a religious brother, or a known or suspected political conservative.

Such a story would, if course, never see the light of day at the ABC. Gillard’s poodle McClellan will be aghast.

JC
JC
June 21, 2023 7:07 pm

Dot

I write a few cheques a year, all to the ATO, or like for parking fines etc, and now land tax. It’s necessary for me because I know it’s inconvenient for these douchebags and I really want to cause them discomfort no matter how small. It’s the only purpose to use cheques. I hope you can see that.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 21, 2023 7:08 pm

Evening all balmy 22.5 deg atm, average low inland atm is around 12 and here on the coast 16deg. I wont be laughing when I land at Mascot tomorrow evening around 6pm though. Then peak hour trains and a ferry ride to a relatives place for the night. Hopefully I avoid the cat lady kicking peoples bags on the city circle 😉 .

Unfortunately my visit south isn’t for pleasure, for a funeral. Was outside mobile range and only found out 24 hours after the passing when fleeting through and area with 1 bar service. Long term illness so not exactly a shock but still sad anyway. Seem to be attending more and more of these as I advance through middle age. Friday is the ceremony, weather looks absolutely miserable unfortunately. I do hope the BOM is wrong again.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 21, 2023 7:19 pm

Truth is absent in celebration of Bruce Pascoe

A white man is now our most celebrated Aborigine, and democracy is denounced as a threat to Labor’s racist Voice. It’s time to fight back.

Andrew Bolt

Bruce Pascoe should have been booed off the stage of the Sydney Film Festival last weekend. Instead, Australia’s most famous fake Aborigine was treated like a hero.

Looking pinker than me, the old fraud posed for the cameras, surrounded by white admirers who seem to prefer their Aborigines to look like themselves.

Worse, Pascoe was there as the star of a film backed by the ABC, Film Victoria and Screen Australia, using taxpayers’ money to promote the greatest literary fraud in our history. He is now honoured as a professor at the University of Melbourne after writing Dark Emu, falsely claiming Aborigines were farmers, not hunter-gatherers.

That film, The Dark Emu Story, premiered at the festival, where producer Darren Dale hailed it as “so important” in this “momentous year” when we get to vote on Labor’s Voice – a kind of Aboriginal-only advisory parliament, cemented into our Constitution.

For once I agreed with him. This film is important for confirming truth is dead in Aboriginal politics.

It’s so dead that Labor can brazenly claim the Voice is a “modest change”, and this apartheid will somehow unite us.

I was away for the film’s premiere, so must rely on reports and the trailer. But that’s already enough to tell us both Pascoe and the Voice come from the same monstrous mountain of bull-droppings, promoted by the same extremists.

For instance, Professor Marcia Langton, also of the University of Melbourne, popped up in The Dark Emu Story to abuse me and others for pointing out Pascoe was a fake Aborigine peddling a fake history.

“The racist attacks on him hinged on whether or not he was Aboriginal,” raged the former Communist League national committee member, who has also called Pascoe’s Dark Emu “the most important book on Australia”, even though it misrepresented sources and has been debunked by academics.

Langton’s smear in the film is important, because she is a key architect of Labor’s Voice, one of the two authors of the co-design report which the Albanese government cites as its model.

For a start, what does it say about Langton’s commitment to the truth that she defends not just Pascoe’s book but his claimed Aboriginality, even though his genealogy shows all his ancestors are of British descent?

But there’s a pattern here. Langton is also curiously indifferent to the danger of fake Aborigines hijacking the Voice.

Her report tells the federal government not to hold direct elections to choose the 24 people who will form the Voice to advise parliament and public servants on everything from welfare payments to defence.

No democracy? Why not?

Well, says Langton’s report, because Aborigines would complain of fake Aborigines voting: “Eligibility to vote, particularly with regard to confirming indigeneity … has historically been divisive in some communities.”

Shockingly, the Albanese government has bought Langton’s argument. There will not be direct elections. Voice members will instead be selected by the Aboriginal aristocracy which already dominates black politics and helped produce a social disaster.

It staggers me that not one prominent Leftist has publicly protested that Aborigines are being denied a democratic vote for the Voice that’s meant to represent them.

Is that because they’re scared an election means having to create an electoral roll of voters who’ll have to prove they really are Aborigines? Are they scared we’ll learn how many Pascoes are out there, particularly in politics and universities?

Suzanne Ingram, a board member of the NSW Aboriginal Housing Office, complained on SBS last year that 300,000 of the 810,000 Australians now claiming to be Aboriginal were fakes. An Aboriginal member of the Albanese government’s referendum working group privately told me Ingram was right.

In fact, the past two censuses – 2016 and 2021 – had more than 130,000 people calling themselves Aborigines who hadn’t in the census before, and many Aborigines are now horrified by the flood of fakes.

Activist Stephen Hagan told SBS there were even “fake Aborigines coming into the (Aboriginal) organisations”, and Sydney’s Metropolitan Aboriginal Land Council warned “people have used self-identification to receive jobs, housing and scholarships they’re not entitled to”.

Michael Mansell, Aboriginal Land Council of Tasmania chairman, warned of thousands more fakes like Pascoe in Tasmania, where the number of supposed Aborigines has rocketed from 36 in 1966 to 30,000 today.

But white journalists – the kind promoting Pascoe – don’t want to know. See the ABC defend Pascoe even now.

Truth does not matter to them, so fakes and frauds rule. A white man is now our most celebrated Aborigine, and democracy is denounced as a threat to Labor’s racist Voice.

Fight back. Say no.

Herald-Sun

Indolent
Indolent
June 21, 2023 7:19 pm
Delta A
Delta A
June 21, 2023 7:26 pm

‘Banging sounds’ heard in search for missing Titanic submarine

A big ask, but I hope they are all okay.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 21, 2023 7:26 pm

“The racist attacks on him hinged on whether or not he was Aboriginal,” raged the former Communist League national committee member

I had read somewhere else that La Langton was a former closet Communist. Thanks, Bolta!

bons
bons
June 21, 2023 7:27 pm

Being basically wierd, I am a true fan of Dominic Frisbee.
His hit job song on Nicola is outstanding. True genius.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD_ZbIQhADA

Pogria
Pogria
June 21, 2023 7:29 pm

Top Ender,
re your post. My parents escaped Tito’s dictatorship in 1956, arrived in Oz 1960. If the Voice goes through and if there is the slightest threat to my farm, I will identify as Abo. Precedent has been set.

Roger
Roger
June 21, 2023 7:31 pm

For a start, what does it say about Langton’s commitment to the truth that she defends not just Pascoe’s book but his claimed Aboriginality, even though his genealogy shows all his ancestors are of British descent?

That she’s still at heart a hard leftist for whom the end justifies the means.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 21, 2023 7:34 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPHPjqrvklI

Wonder when there’ll be an Australian version?

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 21, 2023 7:35 pm

Cheques as weaponised payment.
I love it.

Cassie of Sydney
June 21, 2023 7:35 pm

“Being basically wierd, I am a true fan of Dominic Frisbee.
His hit job song on Nicola is outstanding. True genius.”

I’m a fan too. He’s very, very clever.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 21, 2023 7:37 pm

Beerturk

Was on Jetstar recently and a bit over Christmas. If you can put up with the as a colleague calls the “no star service” there are no Welcome to whatever mythical lands statements.

Flying on a scheduled charter tomorrow wet leased from Alliance by the red roo. Flew one from Melbourne last October and there was no statement so be interested to see if it has been forced in there by the leprechaun.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 21, 2023 7:39 pm

Someone mentioned Jim Caviezel upthread.
Really good actor.
Pity he’s not in more stuff.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 21, 2023 7:41 pm

If NSW win tonight, it’s because Channel Nine had a word in the refs ear to ensure game three isn’t a dead rubber.
That & injuries of course.

Razey
Razey
June 21, 2023 7:45 pm

I will identify as Abo

We are all Abo’s now.

Pogria
Pogria
June 21, 2023 7:47 pm

bern,
Jim Caviezel is brilliant and underused in films. His television series, Person of Interest, was extremely prescient about the undermining of our freedoms and the complete capitulation of Governments to China style surveillance of the population. All in the name of safety, of course.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 21, 2023 7:49 pm

Razeysays:
June 21, 2023 at 7:45 pm
I will identify as Abo

We are all Abo’s now.

Except Albo, who remains an Itie.

Rabz
June 21, 2023 7:49 pm

His hit job song on Nicola is outstanding. True genius.

Thanks Bons, that was hilarious.

Cassie of Sydney
June 21, 2023 7:50 pm

There is no firm evidence yet that the sounds are coming from the submersible. A marine specialist has said it’s like trying to find “a 5 cent coin on a football field”.

It’s a tragedy. Am I allowed to ask the question, why were they there?

JC
JC
June 21, 2023 7:53 pm

It’s a tragedy. Am I allowed to ask the question, why were they there?

Tourism, Cass.

It was another one of those Titantic tourist things. I can’t understand why they can’t leave that freaking ship alone.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 21, 2023 7:54 pm

Delta Asays:

June 21, 2023 at 7:26 pm

‘Banging sounds’ heard in search for missing Titanic submarine

A big ask, but I hope they are all okay.

I think we all hope they don’t get to the surface and pop the hatch, only to find they’ve been rescued by 50 year old white men.
That would be just too much to bear.

Cassie of Sydney
June 21, 2023 7:56 pm

Dominic Frisby has become a good friend of Count Dankula (the Nazi pug), and at Dankula’s roast in October of last year, Frisby composed and sang this…

It pays to be a c*nt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCJwbs62cxA

Hysterical and clever.

Pattmclit
Pattmclit
June 21, 2023 7:57 pm

Dot, earlier posts re ACCC.

Although it’s 30 years ago, I was heavily involved with them.

Misuse of market power (Section 49). IFIRC wa evident then and is rampant now.
This is in the construction industry, the likes of Thiess, Lend Lease, Abignano and others control ALL major projects in this country.
I think Abignano have been taken over by others, but the effect is the same.

Small ambitious operators are forced to be subbies and lauded over by unscrupulous head contractors.

I like most of your posts, but on the ACCC you are dead wrong, they are a toothless tiger.
Pat

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 21, 2023 7:59 pm

I think we all hope they don’t get to the surface and pop the hatch

Fairly safe there. Apparently the hatch has to be opened up by someone on the outside.

JC
JC
June 21, 2023 7:59 pm

Being basically wierd, I am a true fan of Dominic Frisbee.

What the hell is a Dominic Frisbee? Is it some new flying disk contraption?

Cassie of Sydney
June 21, 2023 7:59 pm

” I can’t understand why they can’t leave that freaking ship alone.”

That’s how I feel JC. It’s a graveyard, fifteen hundred men, women and children died that night and that sea bed is their resting place. It should be left alone.

However, I can understand people being interested in the story and the history, last night on Sky they had on a Titanic expert. He said he’s been fascinated since he learned that this grandfather, as a boy, in a Belfast shipyard, stood on the deck of the ship before it set sail. But go down in a tiny sub and explore it. No. It’s ghoulish.

JC
JC
June 21, 2023 8:02 pm

I think we all hope they don’t get to the surface and pop the hatch, only to find they’ve been rescued by 50 year old white men.
That would be just too much to bear.

Can you imagine the sheer weight of embarrassment and how it would feel to actually see old white men saving your lives. I’m not sure you could ever recover from that.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 21, 2023 8:02 pm

I like most of your posts, but on the ACCC you are dead wrong, they are a toothless tiger.

They choose to be a toothless tiger.
Check out their response to the Sydney Airport takeover.

Cassie of Sydney
June 21, 2023 8:02 pm

“Jim Caviezel is brilliant and underused in films.”

The reason why is because Jim Caviezel is a devout Catholic, and he doesn’t do Hollyweird bullshit.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 21, 2023 8:05 pm

Caviezel was in a great movie about 20 years ago called Deja Vu with Denzel.
Worth a watch.

JC
JC
June 21, 2023 8:08 pm

Cass:

He said he’s been fascinated since he learned that this grandfather, as a boy, in a Belfast shipyard, stood on the deck of the ship before it set sail.

It was an incredible place then. (Belfast). It was the Silicon Valley of it’s time.

That’s how I feel JC. It’s a graveyard, fifteen hundred men, women and children died that night and that sea bed is their resting place.

I can’t recall if Leo DiCaprio was saved at the end, or if it was just Kate Winslet who made it. It was a great doco on those two though. 🙂

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 21, 2023 8:10 pm

It’s a tragedy. Am I allowed to ask the question, why were they there?

Well, yes.
A tragedy.
But a tragedy brought on themselves in the search for edgy adventure tourism.
I see it as right up there with wing-suit flying, base jumping, big wave surfing or pinching arses in Parliament House.
The odds of coming unstuck increase exponentially each time you give it a go.

JC
JC
June 21, 2023 8:11 pm

Dee Gust Ing

Robert Barnes

As a criminal tax lawyer for a near quarter-century, I confirm how rare & extraordinary the #HunterBiden plea deal is. Indeed, the deal violates DOJ Tax official policy, where Biden’s DOJ prohibit prosecutors from even offering this deal to people who did far less than Hunter.

Cassie of Sydney
June 21, 2023 8:12 pm

I know some will find this hard to believe but I’ve never seen the 1999 film Titanic with Leonardo and Kate.

The Titanic film I have seen (and recommend) is “A Night to Remember”, made in the late 1950s.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 21, 2023 8:13 pm

But go down in a tiny sub and explore it. No. It’s ghoulish.

With you on that one – put a plaque on the deck, say, of H.M.S. Hood, commemorating the sacrifice, but explore it by remote control.

Cassie of Sydney
June 21, 2023 8:13 pm

“But a tragedy brought on themselves in the search for edgy adventure tourism.”

Yes. It’ like those who now go climbing Mount Everest, for edginess.

Cassie of Sydney
June 21, 2023 8:14 pm

And actually, the real tragedy was that strange night in April 1912.

Damon
Damon
June 21, 2023 8:16 pm

“It’s a tragedy. Am I allowed to ask the question, why were they there?”

Like Everest, because it was there.

shatterzzz
June 21, 2023 8:17 pm

It’s not the extent of the crime that matters but wher eyou come from ..! .. The marinated lettuce leaf that passes as Oz justice wimps along .. again! .. FFS!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12217381/Red-Roses-Daycare-Fraud-scam-Alee-Farmann-wife-Lubna-apologise-Australia.html

Pogria
Pogria
June 21, 2023 8:21 pm

Red Flags had been raised long before the submersible dived into the deep.

bespoke
bespoke
June 21, 2023 8:22 pm

Nothing wrong with people taking risk for fun. We live in a nanny bombarded with fears and it’s effecting kids in a negative way.

JC
JC
June 21, 2023 8:23 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
June 21, 2023 at 8:12 pm

I know some will find this hard to believe but I’ve never seen the 1999 film Titanic with Leonardo and Kate.

It was a pretty decent movie as played present and back in time really well. Worth seeing. It had a funny seen where Leo and Kate were on the bow of the ship pretending to fly. It reminds me of the flying in The Hangover.

Flying scene in Titantic.

Flying scene in The Hangover.

I think The Hangover scene was far more romantic though, but that’s just me.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 21, 2023 8:23 pm

And actually, the real tragedy was that strange night in April 1912.

I’ve heard the point of view that the real tragedy was the Edwardian belief in their technology – in the event of a collision, water tight compartments and pumps would keep the ship afloat, the new wireless technology would summon nearby ships to the rescue, and the lifeboats would shuttle passengers and crew to their rescuers.

Nobody envisaged a situation where all the passengers and crew would have to take to the lifeboats, simultaneously.

rosie
rosie
June 21, 2023 8:25 pm

I’m also a non Titanic, goes with my never Davinci Code.

JC
JC
June 21, 2023 8:25 pm

bespoke says:
June 21, 2023 at 8:22 pm

Nothing wrong with people taking risk for fun. We live in a nanny bombarded with fears and it’s effecting kids in a negative way.

Yeah, is that like you taking the risk in using Grammerly to avoid screwing shit up? That sort of risk or something different?

Dot
Dot
June 21, 2023 8:27 pm

I like most of your posts, but on the ACCC you are dead wrong, they are a toothless tiger.

I think they are a toothless tiger too (like bern, by choice). If there was market concentration in the commercial & civil construction sector; was there an abuse of market power?

I still contend openness is the best way to deal with restricting abuse of market power.

(Still can’t find the reference I want proving that to be the case with empirical data…might be on the dead PC).

mizaris
mizaris
June 21, 2023 8:27 pm

I think we all hope they don’t get to the surface and pop the hatch, only to find they’ve been rescued by 50 year old white men.

They can’t pop the hatch because it’s bolted closed from the outside. So even if they surface they’re still entombed unless they’re found before the O2 runs out.

Pogria
Pogria
June 21, 2023 8:27 pm

Bern, Deja Vu was great. Have you seen Frequency?
Cassie, Jim Caviezel has spoken about how his career nosedived after he was in Passion of the Christ.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 21, 2023 8:27 pm

On the way back to paradise, I called into Sydney to attend the latest reunion of our little group that has been getting together for more than forty years.

We manage to cope with a few leftist friends of long standing, Bons, but it can get rather wearing.

This weekend will be testing. We are visiting, but not staying with, my sister and her card carrying greenie partner (essentially husband number 6). He is nice but she can get quite contentious over political matters. She and I have eighty years of conflict and love together to cope with, to nurture or destroy. I wonder which one it will be. We are meeting them for dinner and joining them the next day for breakfast.

This feels like civil war. Families fractured, friendships torn apart. It’s very sad.

Dot
Dot
June 21, 2023 8:29 pm

m0nty says:
June 21, 2023 at 5:54 pm

Dot, it was lovely to see you playing so nicely with those cute little straw men.


They were the topics that you brought up.

Now, got anything adult to say?

Constantly, but here’s another one for you: I also used empirical evidence to prove you wrong.

When you vomit back emotional drivel, you’re going to be mocked relentlessly.

Pogria
Pogria
June 21, 2023 8:29 pm

Forgot to mention, Jim Caviezel was never sorry he portrayed Christ in Passion of the Christ.

cohenite
June 21, 2023 8:30 pm

No wonder that bit of human excrement biden smirks everywhere he goes. His son the junkie got off against all policy and legal diligence. It is absolutely de rigueur when pursuing tax dereliction that the source of the funds where tax has not been paid are established. This was not done in this case because obviously the source of the funds were overseas bribes. The junkie has no other source of income, or at least did not at that time. Now he has phony art sales.

The system is fu.ked. Trump is gone. The demorats shit ballots out of their fungal ridden arses. And here the screech will get up, if not at the referendum then in federal legislation. It won’t matter because the lights will be off and entertainment will consist of chasing inner city lefties for their food value.

JC
JC
June 21, 2023 8:32 pm

It won’t matter because the lights will be off and entertainment will consist of chasing inner city lefties for their food value.

Personally, I’d rather starve than to eat skunk, but not you, Cronkite.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 21, 2023 8:32 pm

So even if they surface they’re still entombed unless they’re found before the O2 runs out.

My worst nightmare. Worse than being locked inside a low slung Audi Q5.
Or stuck in a coffin lift in a hotel in Italy with the staff unaware.

At least I would never have started voluntarily on such an expedition as they booked in for.

I do hope they are found and quickly released. Chances are low now though.
Hairy comforts me by saying they probably died quickly in a catastrophic accident.

cohenite
June 21, 2023 8:34 pm

Flying scene in The Hangover.

I think The Hangover scene was far more romantic though, but that’s just me.

That was Hangover 111, the best of the lot. The courting scene had a lot going for it.

JC
JC
June 21, 2023 8:35 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
June 21, 2023 8:35 pm

JC

You probably know the store, I can’t recall it.

The husband and wife owners of a Manhattan store were on the Titanic. When the lifeboats started being loaded, they went to the boat deck, and the husband helped his wife into a boat. When the husband started to climb aboard, a ship’s officer reminded him that it was women and children. The husband apologised, and stepped back from the boat. The wife then asked the officer to help her back on board, saying words to the effect that “If we cannot live together, then we shall die together”.

They disappeared into the First Class area and were never seen again. I believe that there is a memorial plaque near the entrance.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 21, 2023 8:35 pm

It is Wednesday.

Addams Family Surfin’ Bird

cohenite
June 21, 2023 8:36 pm

Personally, I’d rather starve than to eat skunk, but not you, Cronkite.

We don’t have skunks in Australia head prefect. We have wallabies. And you’ll eat what’s put in front of you.

Dot
Dot
June 21, 2023 8:37 pm

I write a few cheques a year, all to the ATO, or like for parking fines etc, and now land tax. It’s necessary for me because I know it’s inconvenient for these douchebags and I really want to cause them discomfort no matter how small. It’s the only purpose to use cheques. I hope you can see that.

There’s always a hope they lose them and they go stale.

Pogria
Pogria
June 21, 2023 8:38 pm

I enjoyed Titanic. It was also an excellent film to take my mother to see. Being almost blind, totally deaf without her hearing aids and having no English, the film was such a tremendous spectacle and she was able to follow the story pretty well. She loved it, brought her to tears. I took her to see it two more times. Mum was about eighty at the time and still loved a good tear jerking romance.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 21, 2023 8:38 pm

women and children only.

Dot
Dot
June 21, 2023 8:39 pm

If NSW win tonight, it’s because Channel Nine had a word in the refs ear to ensure game three isn’t a dead rubber.
That & injuries of course.

The refereeing in the SOO in the last few years has been reminiscent of the Indian bookmaker’s involvement with the Australian Cricket team.

m0nty
m0nty
June 21, 2023 8:39 pm

Dominic Frisby has become a good friend of Count Dankula (the Nazi pug)

Cranky, have you had a stroke?

JC
JC
June 21, 2023 8:40 pm

B John

Dude, I dunno. Sounds like a great story though.

As an aside there’s a plaque on our building saying John Steinbeck lived the last years of his life in the building.

JC
JC
June 21, 2023 8:42 pm

B John

Really, Macy’s owner? Wow.

Anyone who’s seen “Titanic” remembers the old couple prepared to go down with the ship together. They’re based on Isidor and Ida Straus, a real couple who died in the 1912 sinking. Isidor was a US representative and co-owner of the department store Macy’s.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 21, 2023 8:42 pm

The husband and wife owners of a Manhattan store were on the Titanic

Isadore and Ida Strauss – owned Macy’s. Last seen standing arm in arm on the boat deck.

My memory fails me – who was the tycoon who went below, and changed into evening dress, “to die like a gentleman.”

m0nty
m0nty
June 21, 2023 8:43 pm

I also used empirical evidence to prove you wrong.

You used straw men fallacies to tell us you were desperate.

If you think stagflation has happened in Australia in the past decade, you are severely delusional. The Libs have been incompetent, corrupt clowns, granted, but it hasn’t been that bad.

Dot
Dot
June 21, 2023 8:45 pm

If you think stagflation has happened in Australia in the past decade

Err, I never said it did.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 21, 2023 8:46 pm

It must be reeeealllly lonely over at Phat Pussy these days. Maybe Homer the Idiot and Steve from Brissy have abandoned mUnty in his hour of need.

Pogria
Pogria
June 21, 2023 8:51 pm

Zulu,
I think it was a Guggenheim that dressed for death on the Titanic.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 21, 2023 8:51 pm

The demorats shit ballots out of their fungal ridden arses.
Liberty Quote.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 21, 2023 8:52 pm

m0ntysays:
June 21, 2023 at 8:43 pm
I also used empirical evidence to prove you wrong.

You used straw men fallacies to tell us you were desperate.

He used your straw men, reacting to your desperation.

Cassie of Sydney
June 21, 2023 8:53 pm

Poor old pervert apologist, he’s here yet again looking for attention again.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 21, 2023 8:55 pm

Mutley you have a stroke day in day out yet there’s nothing to stroke.

JC
JC
June 21, 2023 8:57 pm

Fatboy, stop annoying the ladies here.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 21, 2023 9:08 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 21, 2023 9:08 pm

Anyway, “Sliante” to all you mob.

Mme Zulu has had a trial fitting of a dental plate that will offset most of the damage done to her speech by this fvcking cancer, and there is a cunning plan towards her recovery….Cats will do me the courtesy of ignoring any incoherent transmissions from this call sign…..

Razey
Razey
June 21, 2023 9:17 pm

They can’t pop the hatch because it’s bolted closed from the outside.

Proof that not all billionaires are smart.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 21, 2023 9:20 pm

feelthebernsays:

June 21, 2023 at 8:02 pm

I like most of your posts, but on the ACCC you are dead wrong, they are a toothless tiger.

They choose to be a toothless tiger.
Check out their response to the Sydney Airport takeover.

Whoaaaa!
You need to post a trigger warning for JC before mentioning that.
But, yes.
Apparently oppression of minority shareholders is no longer a thing.
The fact that UniSuper voted to sell out but kept their holding in the new entity was disgraceful.
I wonder who brokered that sweetheart deal.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 21, 2023 9:21 pm

Zulu,
I think it was a Guggenheim that dressed for death on the Titanic.

Benjamin Guggenheim – he and his valet dressed in evening dress, yes, “to die like gentlemen.”

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 21, 2023 9:23 pm

Twice in this game, the Maroons have done the outside inside ball to Walsh.
Used to be the favourite play of Cam Smith, Cronk, Thurston to…..Billy Slater.

Chris
Chris
June 21, 2023 9:25 pm

Best of luck to Mme Zulu, ZK2A.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 21, 2023 9:27 pm

Maureen approves.

Lea Salonga Songs from the Screen concert with the Manila Philharmonic Orchestra at the PICC Plenary Hall in 2001.

Lea Salonga – Can You Read My Mind (Superman)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 21, 2023 9:27 pm

Best of luck to Mme Zulu, ZK2A.

Thank you, Chris.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Yea, all the best to callsign VK6ZKAA

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 21, 2023 9:33 pm

“Daily Mail.”

Say yes to the dress? Inside politics’ night of nights as senator arrives at Midwinter Ball in indigenous fashion brand’s dress emblazoned with calls for Aussies to vote for The Voice – and Anthony Albanese’s girlfriend Jodie rocks black number

Jackie Lambie looked halfway presentable, and somebody tell Marcus Stewart to take his fvcking hat off inside – Pat Dodson, he is NOT!

Delta A
Delta A
June 21, 2023 9:35 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
June 21, 2023 at 8:12 pm

#Metoo.

m0nty
m0nty
June 21, 2023 9:36 pm

Err, I never said it did.

You said I was wrong to pot Sinclair over his stagflation call, thus implying you thought he was right and stagflation did occur.

Inductive logic, do you speak it?

areff
areff
June 21, 2023 9:38 pm

The reply she got back is beyond a joke, I’ve read it and it’s quite sickening. Basically Spender and her minions think Brittany is the victim here, Lehrmann is guilty, and the only travesty is that Shazza and Knickerless’ texts etc were leaked to the media.

Would love to see that letter. Lehrmann’s lawyers might also if it’s as candid as it sounds.

Dot
Dot
June 21, 2023 9:41 pm

PFFFFFFT!

There goes my herbal tea before a good night’s rest.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1671370284102819841?s=48&t=qleHusvYczSd-OPc7-Vgsw

Conversation
James Esses
@JamesEsses
·
Jun 20
Yesterday, after posting a Tweet saying that I reject the word ‘cis’ and don’t wish to be called it, I receive a slew of messages from trans activists calling me “cissy” and telling me that I am ‘cis’ “whether or not I like it”.

Just imagine if the roles were reversed.
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
Repeated, targeted harassment against any account will cause the harassing accounts to receive, at minimum, temporary suspensions.

The words “cis” or “cisgender” are considered slurs on this platform.
2:11 PM · Jun 21, 2023
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7.8M
Views

BUT THERE’S MORE

Genevieve Gluck
@WomenReadWomen
·
Jun 20
The term “cisgender” was coined by a German sexologist who also stated, “The sensuality that spontaneously unfolds between a child and an adult is something wonderful.”

Volkmar Sigusch first used the terms “cisgender” and “cissexual” in a 1991 publication titled Transsexuals and… Show more

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
·
6h
Yup, the contemptible creep that manufactured the term “cis” has serious problems. Ignore him.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 21, 2023 9:41 pm

That reminds me, I need to review the important news Ms Spender popped in the letter box.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 21, 2023 9:45 pm

Don’t be surprised if I link to Abba after this.

SLAYER – Raining Blood/Black Magic (Decade Of Aggression 1991- 4K)

Dot
Dot
June 21, 2023 9:48 pm

Sigh…this is really annoying.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-29/davidson—stagflation-looms-for-australia27s-economy/2814668

2011 (FY 2012). It already happened on a State level outside of WAS in 2010-2011 (FY 2012). I showed you the charts and research article from the RBA.

Growth got better outside of minerals after the carbon tax was repealed. Inflation went down after government spending as a proportion of GDP fell, which also finally let monetary policy work properly with a devaluation.

Unless you think “this decade” means before FY 2013…

Yet many Australians are very likely to be surprised by how poorly the economy is performing. The government has not prepared the population for an economic slowdown. Quite the contrary, the government is pursuing other interests; imposing a carbon tax that will increase the cost of living and, as Treasury admits, slow the economy. All while the ABS tells us that inflation is increasing anyway and the economy at stalling speed already.

The carbon tax was punted and inflation slowed as I said. Gillard did one very good thing in increasing the tax-free threshold significantly.

Given the logic of Keynesian economics, stagflation can’t happen. It is theoretically impossible to have inflation and a stagnant economy at the same time. Yet we all know that the real world can deliver nasty surprises to theoretical modelling.

That happened in Australia outside of mining BEFORE Sinclair even wrote the op-ed.

As evidenced in the article:

In 2007 Kevin Rudd argued, ‘this reckless spending must stop’. He was quite right then, he would be even more correct today. The Australian economy is in trouble – according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS), the first quarter of 2011 experienced negative growth. Second quarter figures will be published in early September. This week the ABS reported that inflation is well above the Reserve Bank’s two to three per cent inflation target.

Even Kevin Rudd got this one right whilst you got it wrong.

Dot
Dot
June 21, 2023 9:49 pm

Outside of WA.

Dot
Dot
June 21, 2023 9:53 pm

LOL

The mong pixie of the apocalypse:

https://www.westernstandard.news/news/doomsday-five-years-ago-greta-thunberg-said-the-world-would-end-wednesday/article_b772322e-0f80-11ee-86b4-9b5d9f3ab7ee.html

DOOMSDAY: Five years ago Greta Thunberg said the world would end Wednesday

“A top climate scientist is warning that climate change will wipe out all of humanity unless we stop using fossil fuels over the next five years,” said Thunberg in a since-deleted tweet.

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 21, 2023 9:55 pm

My parents escaped Tito’s dictatorship in 1956, arrived in Oz 1960. If the Voice goes through and if there is the slightest threat to my farm, I will identify as Abo. Precedent has been set.

I have been ticking both the Aboriginal and the TSI boxes on forms for years, hence I have already self identified as Aboriginal, and I have the jail time to prove it.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 21, 2023 10:06 pm
P
P
June 21, 2023 10:12 pm

Steve trickler says:
June 21, 2023 at 9:08 pm

Gorgeous Lady:

Petula Clark Downtown. original version 1964

1964 the year I married. Memories of moving into our flat on the 2nd floor of 37 Darlinghurst Rd, Kings Cross, are brought back by this number by Petula Clark.
Thanks.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 21, 2023 10:14 pm

Biden’s Ties That Bind
How the U.S. is working to constrain Israel before announcing its new Iran deal

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/ties-that-bind-biden-israel-iran-michael-doran

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 21, 2023 10:14 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKHFWpaTUmY

This one’s in memory of a mad mate of mine – was a Viet Nam veteran , wounded twice on his tour, refused to be sent home, he wanted to finish his tour with his mates.

He gave me good advice. “Now, listen, young Zulu Kilo. You might KNOW the man is a fvckwit, but don’t tell him to his face, and not in front of witnesses.”

I’m not a Vietnam veteran, but I was asked to be one of the guard of honor at his funeral, and I watched two veterans folding the Australian flag, and presenting it to his family…

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 21, 2023 10:15 pm

The goals of the US security state.
Be ok with Iran developing nukes.
Sell nukes to the Saudis to balance that.
Liberate Venezuelan offshore energy assets.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 21, 2023 10:30 pm

So, here passing the time while Hairy watches the State of Origin.
Thinking of those poor guys in that submersible 3 miles deep.
Got me to thinking of the Normandy coast and the memorials to the submariners of WW2.
Most of those were very young men, often in their teens, most under thirty. Tragic.
So many iron coffins in those deep seas.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 21, 2023 10:31 pm

This one’s in memory of a mad mate of mine

Numbers was honking on, on this blog, about the wickedness of sending conscripts to the Fun Factory (Viet Nam).

“Umm, I signed the declaration I would agree to serve overseas. if posted there. You didn’t sign the declaration, you wouldn’t be posted to Vietnam, but you couldn’t be posted to Singapore or Malaysia, and they were regarded as pretty exciting…”

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
June 21, 2023 10:32 pm

Now that’s a nice stunt, if it works. I rather suggest it will more have a Steisand Effect….

From the Oz…
Anthony Albanese seeks to place legal limits on Aboriginal voice amid debate over Australia Day

The mechanism being a second reading speech will will possibly be considered by the High Court when it eventually deliberates on what the Voice can “advise” on.

There are three smells around the Voice.

The smell of fear from the Government, the smell of sheer, whisker-twitching greed as the grifters manoeuver to gain maximum spoils and the vague smell of dirty nappies as the same grifters start to soil their pants at the thought that it might all be taken away by some noisome populace.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
June 21, 2023 10:32 pm

Streisand!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 21, 2023 10:37 pm

Rick, I hope you enjoy Sydney and that the funeral goes off well tomorrow.
It’s true that you get to more funerals than marriages once you’re over sixty or seventy.
Although the marriages thing depends on how many grown-up grandkids you have.

Dot
Dot
June 21, 2023 10:37 pm

The goals of the US security state.

Polka dancing, secret druggings, murder of allied scientists & poisoning entire cities, for their own good, squire!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 21, 2023 10:42 pm

“The Albanese government is desperately trying to retrofit its narrative as they realise Australians are working out what is being foisted upon them – a risky, unknown, divisive and permanent body that will do nothing to improve the lives of Indigenous Australians.

That’s it in a nutshell. Vote No. Anything that is immediately open to a High Court challenge is something no-one in their right minds should vote for.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 21, 2023 10:46 pm

Tried to buy a book from Amazon on my Kindle today. Haven’t done that for at least a year as I mostly buy hard copies now. They told me they have shut up shop on old Kindles like mine and that I would have to use some other platform to order on now.

Think I’m going off Kindles now anyway. They were fun years ago when it was so exciting to just call up a book and presto it was there. It’s a yawn these days. And nothing beats a book in your hand cuddled up under the bedclothes on a cold night like tonight. Temptation calls.

m0nty
m0nty
June 21, 2023 10:47 pm

Dot, there was no stagflation in Australia at that time. You can’t cherry pick short-run state GDP and national inflation like that to label it as analogous to 1979 and be treated seriously.

Sinc and others of his ilk have been crying wolf over stagflation for 40+ years, and it has never come like it did in the late 70s. They remember that one time in their careers when they had the Keynesians on the run, and they want to relive it so desperately because the cycles before and since that have all proven the Keynes mob right. It is rather pitiful actually, like a dog howling at the gravesite of its master.

JC
JC
June 21, 2023 10:48 pm

Doctor Forest, since when?

Iron ore baron Andrew Forrest will transfer almost $5bn worth of Fortescue Metals Group shares to his philanthropic arm, Minderoo Foundation, in what is believed to be the biggest donation in Aus­tralian history.

The transfer, announced late on Tuesday, of one-fifth of the Fortescue shares owned by Dr Forrest and his wife, Nicola, will leave Minderoo with firepower to continue its extensive charitable endeavours far into the future.

Dr Forrest is the richest man in Australia, with a fortune of more than $35bn according to The Australian’s list of the nation’s 250 wealthiest individuals, just ­behind fellow iron ore magnate Gina Rinehart.

Where’s the Doc here?

Forrest was educated at Onslow Primary School[12] and through the School of the Air before moving to Perth to attend Christ Church Grammar School and then Hale School.[18] He stuttered as a child,[12] which is how he came to develop a relationship with Ian Black, whose Aboriginal father, Scotty,[19] became Forrest’s mentor. Forrest went on to the University of Western Australia[20] where he majored in economics and politics.[21]

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 21, 2023 10:49 pm

Got me to thinking of the Normandy coast and the memorials to the submariners of WW2.

I’ve stood on the beach at Gallipoli, looking up at the sandhills, and where the trenches at the Nek were, looking up towards the Turkish trenches at Baby 700…..Umm, yeah, there has to be another way?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 21, 2023 10:50 pm

DOOMSDAY: Five years ago Greta Thunberg said the world would end Wednesday

In that case it’s only got an hour and ten minutes to go.

Buckle up for the Hitchhiker’s Guide.

m0nty
m0nty
June 21, 2023 10:59 pm

I have said this before, but evidently it bears repeating.

You can tell supply-side economists are full of crap because they have the same answer to everything.

Growth sluggish? Cut taxes and red tape, suppress wages (except for executives), maximise corporate profits.

Inflation high? Cut taxes and red tape, suppress wages, more rentier profits.

Cockroaches keep losing Origin? Cut taxes and red tape, etc etc.

Dot
Dot
June 21, 2023 11:02 pm

monty you have made several sloppy and bizarre comprehension errors tonight. I think you are phoning this in, pal.

1. There was rising inflation and negative Australian GDP growth the quarter immediately proceeding when Sinclair wrote the article. Not “cherry-picked state data”.
2. There was rising inflation during the calendar year and negative aggregate labour productivity growth later in the year.
3. Capital investment growth outside of mining fell through 2010 to 2012 for the largest States. Refer back to the RBA chart and analysis linked earlier.
4. You tried to call 21 months of above (both short and long-term trend) inflation in the US as “transitory” and in the medium term inflation is still above trend, the inflation is so high that it has significant significant leverage on the trendline.
5. Per 1., Sinclair noted that stagflation was a worry (it was already happening; not that it was certain or MUST happen through the next 10 years or for 12 years) and Gillard (raise the TFT significantly above poverty traps), Abbott (repeal carbon tax) and the tapering off of “stimulus” spending saw growth increase and inflation fall – typical supply side policies as Sinclair suggested to have lower inflation and higher growth, which actually happened.
6. Like he said, Keynesians fob off stagflation, which was already happening.

You were demonstrably wrong then and you are demonstrably wrong now.

Indolent
Indolent
June 21, 2023 11:04 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 21, 2023 11:06 pm

Reposted for excellence – mole’s Hanson quote from this afternoon:

You have over 3,200 Aboriginal corporations and bodies. You have a department that was set up under the previous government, the NIAA – $4.5 billion a year. You handed out over $1 billion in grants in one year to 1,500. All the other government departments are handing out $11.5 billion in grants. Where has the money gone?

And:

And yet you turn around and want to blame everyone else in this nation who is not Aboriginal or Indigenous for the faults when maybe you should look in your own backyard and question yourselves. Why haven’t things changed?’

Presented without comment – of which any would be unnecessary.

Indolent
Indolent
June 21, 2023 11:09 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
June 21, 2023 11:15 pm

I do hope they are checking panties at the Mid Winter Ball. Got to start somewhere.

MatrixTransform
June 21, 2023 11:15 pm

You can tell supply-side economists are full of crap

people might give a shit, if only the wanting didn’t turn to whining every time mUnty thought he deserved something

still not reading history mUnty?

I thought so

m0nty
m0nty
June 21, 2023 11:25 pm

There was rising inflation and negative Australian GDP growth the quarter immediately proceeding when Sinclair wrote the article. Not “cherry-picked state data”.

You referenced non-WA state GDP and measured it against national inflation. That’s just economically illiterate, Dot. WA is a part of Australia, even if it doesn’t suit your confected narrative.

One quarter of inflation rising and GDP falling does not equal “stagflation”, in the sense that the word is used in the field. Sinclair was being alarmist to the extreme, but even he was not saying that the preceding quarter constituted stagflation. You are going way past what he was saying.

I criticised him at the time because, as Cats are wont to do, he let his ideology cloud his reasoning. No, we weren’t being dropped in the poop in a Volcker-level oil shock situation. 1979 had a precise set of conditions that are highly unlikely to ever be repeated. Temporary factors subsided, and normal cycles resumed.

Panicking about it just made the authors look like Chicken Littles. Sinc didn’t like it, it was his blog and his right. Water long since under the bridge.

JC
JC
June 21, 2023 11:45 pm

Fatboy

Making predictions and being wrong is no big deal. You’ve been using this same bullshit about stagflation against Sinc for over a decade now and it’s really getting worn.

Look at your own failure and apologize for the countless times you claimed thems walls were closing in on Trump over the wussiagate abortion and just today there’s a hearing in the house with the special prosecutor explaining to the public what a disgusting sham it was. Coincidently, there’s going to be a house censure against your hero, Adam Schiff, the lying liar you were relying on to paint Trump as a Putin crony. Just STFU and apologize.

Show a little fcuking humility you fat fcuking turnip.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
June 21, 2023 11:45 pm

Someone mentioned Jim Caviezel upthread.
Really good actor.
Pity he’s not in more stuff.

He’s a openly Christian man that’s why. He is a good actor, learned Aramaic so he could speak the language of Jesus in The Passion of the Christ –– he was also very good in The Stoning of Soraya M — yes it is a pity he’s not in more stuff —

JC
JC
June 21, 2023 11:50 pm

I criticised him at the time because, as Cats are wont to do, he let his ideology cloud his reasoning.

Below zero self awareness. Wussiagate!

Dot
Dot
June 21, 2023 11:58 pm

There was rising inflation and negative Australian GDP growth the quarter immediately proceeding when Sinclair wrote the article. Not “cherry-picked state data”.

Which is correct.

You referenced non-WA state GDP and measured it against national inflation.

Actually, I didn’t, which is why you cannot link back to me saying so and I was careful not to do this. The RBA analysis and chart looked at non-mining capital investment in the largest States – NSW, QLD, VIC and WA. All flat, declining or bottomed out – as I said earlier. Please look at the link once more. Chart 1A.

During this time of falling non-mining capital investment and preceding it, we had actual, aggregated stagflation – negative economic growth and inflation at the Australia-wide level.

One quarter of inflation rising and GDP falling does not equal “stagflation”, in the sense that the word is used in the field.

Stagflation is stagflation, it isn’t sclerotic growth either. It is not the rule of thumb “technical definition” of a recession, it doesn’t “need” to be at least two quarters. Sinclair warned of stagflation, the policies and macroeconomic conditions the government can influence got better and consistent with classical and supply-side economics, the economy improved and stagflation was avoided.

You can not like this, you can find it inconvenient but being annoyed by this doesn’t make it untrue. You were demonstrably wrong then and you are demonstrably wrong now. You are either not paying attention and phoning it in or you don’t understand the content of such a discussion.

Dot
Dot
June 22, 2023 12:03 am

Edit:

“prolonged stagflation was avoided”

m0nty
m0nty
June 22, 2023 12:17 am

The RBA analysis and chart looked at non-mining capital investment in the largest States – NSW, QLD, VIC and WA.

Again, this is cherry picking state data – and not even macro, also cherry picking the sectors – and conflating it with the entirely national inflation figure. For one quarter! And claiming it’s Volcker II! No wonder you failed as an economist.

Sinclair warned of stagflation

As I said, you are claiming things that he didn’t. He was somewhat prudent in his language, you are being careless.

Both of you were wrong. No, stagflation was not imminent, the Phillips curve did not jump about like a grasshopper, it was not even close.

Short-term panic merchants like Sinc looked foolish, as was entirely predictable at the time. He didn’t like being called out, just like you now. I suspect it’s because when the stagflation boogie man is not scary, libertarian economists really have nothing else in the kit bag.

m0nty
m0nty
June 22, 2023 12:25 am

Sinc: Stagflation is coming!!
Me: No it’s not.
Dot: It so is!
Me: Nup.
Sinc: Shut up!
Me: *gets banned*
Stagflation: *doesn’t come*
Me: *unbamned, looks around* Well well well.
Dot: It so did!

JC
JC
June 22, 2023 12:32 am

Fatboy, you never banned. You just assumed you were. According to sinc, your permission was never blocked and it was funny how you believed it was.

m0nty
m0nty
June 22, 2023 12:34 am

I do remember him saying that, JC. I forget the exact technical details of what made me think I was banned.

Probably needed a break back then anyway. Things were getting a bit heated. 🙂

JC
JC
June 22, 2023 12:35 am

Sinc once explained how you begged to be allowed on after a long time and he went along with your stupid assumption. He’d never banned you.

Apparently you asked to be allowed to come back on and he said you could even though you were never blocked. You big fat idiot.

JC
JC
June 22, 2023 12:44 am

Liberty Quote:

The parasitic system can’t be dismantled because 95% of the populace benefits from the 5% who support the entire socialist criminal enterprise.

@GadSaad
Yes. If you want good healthcare, you have to go private. If you want good schooling, you have to typically go private. Hence, you are taxed to near financial ruin, and you receive very little in return. The parasitic system can’t be dismantled because 95% of the populace benefits from the 5% who support the entire socialist criminal enterprise. It is one of the biggest regrets of my life to have been a victim of this reality for so long (and especially so once I became a successful author). I was thinking about writing a book on parasitic governments.

Frank
Frank
June 22, 2023 1:43 am

Inductive logic, do you speak it?

Sounds technical.

Tom
Tom
June 22, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
June 22, 2023 4:08 am
Johnny Rotten
June 22, 2023 4:43 am

Thanks Tom. Are there more ‘Toons to come today?

bespoke
bespoke
June 22, 2023 5:20 am

Referring to an Axios article, Bongino listened as Trump described having people in his last administration who thwarted him and his policies at every turn. Trump explained how they wouldn’t outright disobey him (although they probably did that too) but would “slow-walk things” the president requested:

calli
calli
June 22, 2023 6:07 am

Pontcysyllte aqueduct was the first port of call today. A marvel of engineering, it spans the deep ravine of the Dee. Long ago the narrowboats plied their way between Welsh quarries and the Midlands factories and little ponies hauled them along the towpaths. Today I walked the one across the aqueduct, hundreds of feet in the air, chatting with the boat operators as they steered their craft from the basin at Trevor.

The vast grey bulk of Conwy castle next, built by the ever warring and active Edward Longshanks in his bid to subdue the Welsh princes. More interesting to me, however, were the remains of the monastery with its square Norman tower. Within, a rood screen carved for the wedding by proxy of Arthur and Catherine of Aragon. Relocated and an escapee of Henry VIII’s obliteration of everything associated with his brother’s nuptials, almost ebony with age and candle smoke. And the ancient font, restored to its place after its discovery in someone’s garden.

Last call was on Y Wyddfa, the mighty Snowdon…where the giants tread. There he sits, majestic, in a landscape of lakes and meadows and towering among his smaller kindred. Sheep graze the fields and many walkers can be seen on the maze of trails around the base.

Then on to the Black Boy Inn at Caernarfon, a conglomeration of stone and half timbering and a few rooms for visitors. And a beer garden with a small stone dragon…I took much pleasure sketching him as I awaited a well earned G&T.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 22, 2023 6:22 am

Another day, another Entsch article in the Oz.
It’s fascinating to watch.
Who’s the source?
A Lib who wants to win pre-selection?
A former Lib who’ll run as an independent?
A former flame who wants to get square?

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 22, 2023 6:26 am

The Entsch article further demonstrates just how deluded ScoMo was.
ScoMo & Krudd.
The two worst prime ministers in Australian history.
They both used an external event (GFC & COVID) to fiscally sabotage the country.
For all the moaning over Whitlam, he was a mosquito on the hippo’s bum with reference to ScoMo & Krudd.

Gabor
Gabor
June 22, 2023 6:33 am

calli says:
June 22, 2023 at 6:07 am

I’m happy you enjoy your travels after the initial hiccup with the GPS.
Getting out of my comfort zone is not my cup of tea so I stay put, but I enjoy the travelogues of others’ Look up all the interesting places mentioned.

BTW why do you have a 0 uptick?
Who would object?

Pogria
Pogria
June 22, 2023 6:35 am

Calli,
it sounds divine. I hope the weather is holding for you. What has the food been like?

Pogria
Pogria
June 22, 2023 6:39 am

Gabor,
regarding the zero, we have trolls lurking here. They work rotating shifts so someone can “zero”, 24/7. Saddos.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 22, 2023 7:05 am

Get a chook.

In 2013, Woolworths announced it would phase out the sale of caged eggs across its stores by 2018, in line with a new partnership with celebrity chef Jamie Oliver.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 22, 2023 7:05 am

Watching the picture wireless, pre-dawn.

I must say I hold the same level of interest in the people who built their own submarine, put (extremely rich, and who paid for it) tourists inside it with them and then deliberately put it almost 4000 metres below the ocean’s surface, and who now can’t get out as I do the people who chain themselves to trees and complain when it rains.

Beertruk
June 22, 2023 7:10 am

bespoke:
June 22, 2023 at 5:20 am
(from the linky:)
‘They won’t say, “no.” They’ll never say, “no.” They’ll slow-walk; they’ll say, “oh yes sir, we’ll get this done.” And then all of a sudden you’ll say, “where are those papers?’” [And they answer], “oh, we’re working on them hard.” You have people that you would least suspect [doing this]. [It’s D.C.] It’s a crazy place.’

Reminds me of Jim Hacker’s problems with Sir Humphrey and Civil Service in Yes Minister.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 22, 2023 7:11 am

Shannon Deery and Patrick Carlyon on a disgusting turn of events:

Jake was watching on.

Almost 30 years ago, when he was days old, his Mum went out for milk and didn’t come home. She was found in bushland, the wounds to her hands showing how hard she had fought to live.

Lisa was here, too, watching this pall of political handwringing in state parliament’s upper house on Wednesday.

Her sister was Natalie Russell.

Three weeks after Jake’s mum, Debbie Fream was murdered, Russell was walking home from school in Frankston. Her body would be later found almost decapitated.

Russell’s friend Karen was watching on, too, along with author Vikki Petraitis, who wrote a book about the monster who committed deeds so vile that his sentencing judge declared that he was not “one of us”.

Let’s avoid naming him, or her, as the killer prefers, for now. Like every other serial killer, this one thrives on public attention in the absence of freedom.

And it’s likely that he was the only witness to Wednesday’s parliamentary proceedings who would have thrilled to the odd political debate about the best way to ensure that he will never again criss-cross stab wounds on chests, or plunge knives into abdomens, in acts so beastly that they mostly cannot be described here.

Despite universal agreement that this person will always remain a fatal danger, opposing sides of politics disagree on how best to protect the innocent.

Conservative forces want legislation naming him specifically for death in jail.

There are precedents here, such as Hoddle St killer Julian Knight, and Russell St police station bomber, Craig Minogue, both of whom, like Wednesday’s subject, glory to notoriety.

When such specific laws were passed separately for these men, in 2014 and 2018, the ALP’s Dan Andrews hailed them as a “fantastic outcome” for community safety.

The Liberals want a vote to enshrine the same laws against this killer, in a kind of (INSERT NAME HERE) replication of the Minogue and Knight laws.

Yet the Andrews Government, fresh from apologising for the fear raised by this killer’s parole bid in May, wants to pursue a different approach.

Laws are coming, it argues. Laws which would stymie this killer’s attempts at parole to every five years or more.

Attorney-General Jaclyn Symes was emotional as she addressed the house.

Citing possible High Court challenges, she advocated against “whack-a-mole” laws which addressed individuals by name.

She used the same lines as her political opponents. She wanted victims’ families to have “certainty”. She was affected by sitting at a victim’s family kitchen table. She was “invested”. She wanted a “better” way.

Yet it’s understandable that Natalie Russell’s father Brian has spoken of his “disgust” at the Andrews Government approach.

The killer has never expressed remorse. And a long day of political back and forth, as orchestrated by ALP politicians to ensure the vote would not pass, offers no compelling and explicit promise that the killer is doomed to remain in jail until his death.

The only certainty?

The evidence lies in psychiatric assessments from the time, which identified a “narcissistic personality with features of self-idealization”, who is “constantly confronted by a world which does not respond to or accommodate … their grandiose self-image”.

That’s right. Killer Paul Denyer would be loving the fuss.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 22, 2023 7:21 am

Be fare Bern, Whitless was the model for future politicians to show you could be the most useless and still get elected by making things worse. In successive governments apart from a brief blip in the howard years has been a case of hold my beer. Now I’m an economic drongo but I still know more than munty will ever know. I only know how to make money but even so didn’t understand why howard went the middle-class welfare route. I was doing some work for a guy who started doing government work. It was only low value stuff, under 5 million. His charge out rate increased 25% which government was happy with. When he was doing higher priced work the cost increased to 40%. All to cover the cost of complying with government contracts. Is there anything government can’t stuff up by throwing more money at.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 22, 2023 7:22 am

fair

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 22, 2023 7:25 am

A pardon for the guy who kills this bastard in prison and nothing less.

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