Open Thread – Tues 20 June 2023


The Battle of Waterloo: The British Squares Receiving the Charge of the French Cuirassiers, Henri Félix Emmanuel Philippoteaux, 1874

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 22, 2023 7:28 am

Tried to buy a book from Amazon on my Kindle today. Haven’t done that for at least a year as I mostly buy hard copies now. They told me they have shut up shop on old Kindles like mine and that I would have to use some other platform to order on now.

Lizzie – I still use my old keyboard Kindle, it’s fine. All you do is buy the book in Kindle version while logged in to your Amazon AU account via a laptop or etc. Then turn on the WiFi on your Kindle and link it to your home wifi, and the book automatically arrives.

Don’t forget to turn the Kindle wifi off again afterwards, like I did a few nights ago…battery was flat in the morning.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 22, 2023 7:29 am

Zeroes are nothing to worry about unless they are coming out of the sun. Sometimes when I give an uptick it doesn’t register for quite a while. So I give it another uptick resulting in a zero.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 22, 2023 7:29 am

And a TRAITOROUS morning to you all!

Dot
Dot
June 22, 2023 7:30 am

Again, this is cherry picking state data – and not even macro, also cherry picking the sectors – and conflating it with the entirely national inflation figure. For one quarter!

No. The point is to disaggregate the data between mining and non-mining capital investment. That is every sector of the economy. It wasn’t conflated with the national inflation figure, it was compared to it as well as low growth. That’s not “cherry-picking” at all. Neither is noting the following factors or trends: 1. Stagflation was present directly before Sinclair wrote his article, warning of stagflation if policies were not altered (they were altered and things got better) -not like your hyperbolic ideas as to what was forewarned. 2. Falling G/GDP, supply-side tax cuts (higher TFT, scrapped carbon tax) saw growth recover and inflation fall, as well as removing BOP pressure to allow monetary accommodation to work. 3. We were lucky that China did a massive stimulus in rail and roads through calendar years 2009-2010 which allowed the terms of trade to rise and allow for a 20% increase in the TOT and the WA mining sector to prevent a bigger decline in potential output in the whole economy and prevent a recession.

Cherry-picking is to suppress or ignore data that contradicts a certain position – I showed you the data at the industry sector and aggregate levels and compared them to fiscal, monetary and tax policies. That is not cherry-picking at all. Your hyperbolic creative writing exercise however was. I’m not showing bias towards either major political party as you are.

He was somewhat prudent in his language, you are being careless.

I am not, if he was prudent then you were lying about what he wrote (linked before) and you are lying now.

Both of you were wrong. No, stagflation was not imminent, the Phillips curve did not jump about like a grasshopper, it was not even close.

There was stagflation in the quarter directly preceding the writing of the article. Unemployment increased (a lagging indicator) from calendar year 2011 to the end of calendar year 2014. Inflation constantly increased in all but one quarter during that time (it was positive and the same as the prior quarter). At best, there is no correlation between inflation and unemployment.

You proclaim to be correct but everything you say is countermanded by the data.

Short-term panic merchants like Sinc looked foolish, as was entirely predictable at the time. He didn’t like being called out, just like you now. I suspect it’s because when the stagflation boogie man is not scary, libertarian economists really have nothing else in the kit bag.

What was entirely predictable was the supply-side policies lowered the increasing rise in inflation and falling G/GDP led to a recovery along with income tax and resource taxation cuts or abolition.

Sinclair warned of the consequences of continuing the current policy at the time, what he was worried about had already come true, the aggregates were only propped up by WA capital investment and Chinese commodity demand (which was artificial) [which was also cruelled by unusually high G/GDP]; policies changed and things got better, as the supply side theories predict.

Sinclair was correct on assumptions, theories and empirical data.

You were wrong then and you are wrong now. You don’t like being wrong so you imagined that you were banned when you insisted that your hyperbolic, empirically wrong invidiousness was (quite predictably) received as risible nonsense.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 22, 2023 7:32 am

Quenthland news – the Darling Downs covering itself in glory yet again (the Courier-Mail):

A Darling Downs man remains in custody after being charged with dangerous driving offences following an incident which brought the Pacific Motorway to a grinding halt when a stolen meat truck swiped more than 40 motorists and triggered a wild police chase.

Mathew David Trevor, 31, of Tara

A startling amount of nuffers from this portion of The Last Holdout are coming to notice. This particular specimen has a face completely covered in indecipherable tattoos. Naturally.

was charged with 12 offences including robbery with violence while armed, possession of dangerous drugs, believed to be meth and fentanyl, and unlawful use of a vehicle.

Police released video footage of Monday’s road rampage, in which a meat truck, stolen from Mooloolaba, was driven south on the wrong side of the road and at times 100kmh over the speed limit.

The stolen truck came to a halt at the Mansfield home of retiree Bruce Shoobridge, who was watching TV in his living room when he heard it slam into his back deck.

No word yet as to whether Mr Trevor claimed to be not driving, but ‘travelling in his conveyance’.

Perhaps he was trying to throw his pants out the window when he stacked his truck.

alwaysright
alwaysright
June 22, 2023 7:32 am

Aint this global warming grand?

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 22, 2023 7:36 am

but even so didn’t understand why howard went the middle-class welfare route.

Just a pinch of what was getting baked into the structural deficits.

Cassie of Sydney
June 22, 2023 7:39 am

Didn’t the pervert apologist once fail basic economics?

Isn’t it chutzpah for the pervert apologist to lecture others about basic economics?

Gabor
Gabor
June 22, 2023 7:41 am

Bruce of Newcastle says:
June 22, 2023 at 7:28 am

I don’t even have a Kindle. I use my phone and if I want to, to my PC for reading.
Obviously I use my phone, but you can specify where you want to download your purchase initially but after that it’s available for all, PC phone whatever.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 22, 2023 7:48 am
Dot
Dot
June 22, 2023 7:49 am

Remedial munty nomics 102

Hi, I’m your instructor and probably NQR for continuing on with this tiring and juvenile nonsense of m0nty’s incredibly bad hot takes.

You can tell supply-side economists are full of crap because they have the same answer to everything.

That’s because it concentrates on growth and looks at empirical data. You are yet to disprove why the production function is a false mathematical statement.

Production is a function of the factors of production: Y = f(K, L, A, t,….). Explain why increasing those factors does not increase overall production and thus welfare…you can’t.

Growth sluggish? Cut taxes and red tape, suppress wages (except for executives), maximise corporate profits.

You need to show that tax cuts do not lead to economic growth. How do tax cuts NOT lead to higher savings? How do tax cuts NOT lead to higher reinvestment rates?

If wages are cut with tax cuts then they’d be incredibly unpopular and cruel to consumer demand and savings. One policy that was repeatedly brought up during the GFC was to abolish payroll tax. No government wanted to do this. The people who don’t get a job because of payroll tax have the largest income loss of all, they earn zero dollars and usually go on welfare.

Why is maximising corporate profits bad? You’re fulfilling a demand (maximising consumer surplus) and at a low cost of production (thereby not bidding up the price of resources for other uses). If people cannot be rewarded by entrepreneurship, why would they bother?

Inflation high? Cut taxes and red tape, suppress wages, more rentier profits.

Who said to suppress wages? The wage bill matters more; as does the BOP in light of fiscal policy and overall monetary policy. Reducing inflation increases real wages. Whose wages fall because of tax cuts and lessening the regulatory burden?

The idea that supply-side reforms lead to “more rentier profits” is really bizarre. The supply-side policy preferences would lead to more competition between producers and owners of capital.

Take for example the taxes and hidden government charges on residential dwelling construction, net of zoning restrictions and “green tape”. It has been consistently found that in NSW at least, the tax component of building a new freestanding dwelling out of the total final price is around 40-45% (usually on the higher side). Which means a tax rate of roughly 80%. No other asset class is taxed so heavily and unfairly like this.

The current rentiers have a lot to lose if these taxes are sharply curtailed or abolished. The supply is inelastic and would take time to adjust, but there would be a supply-side boom as profitability for many competitors would avail itself.

The idea that the current rentiers would benefit is wrong if they don’t invest heavily after such reforms. The rental rates would decline to normal levels and no longer be economic rents.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 22, 2023 7:54 am

m0ntysays:
June 21, 2023 at 10:47 pm
Dot, there was no stagflation in Australia at that time. You can’t cherry pick short-run state GDP and national inflation like that to label it as analogous to 1979 and be treated seriously.

Sinc and others of his ilk have been crying wolf over stagflation for 40+ years, and it has never come like it did in the late 70s. They remember that one time in their careers when they had the Keynesians on the run, and they want to relive it so desperately because the cycles before and since that have all proven the Keynes mob right. It is rather pitiful actually, like a dog howling at the gravesite of its master.

Dot

You must take the advice of the BEc (Failed), BJ’ism. Surely it must be impossible to ignore the wisdom of such an eggspurt.

Caution: This comment might contain hints of sarcasm. mUnty is the George Costanza of the blog.

Dot
Dot
June 22, 2023 7:59 am

EDIT

Inflation constantly increased in all but one quarter during that time (it was positive and the same as the prior quarter).

Rookie error, CPI increased in every quarter but one (which would be around mid-2012 calendar year).

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 22, 2023 8:00 am

Dot

Stagflation is stagflation, it isn’t sclerotic growth either.

I think that mUnty called it “choleric”. He’s an idiot.

Cassie of Sydney
June 22, 2023 8:03 am

“ScoMo & Krudd.
The two worst prime ministers in Australian history.”

Yes, until Sleazy. I don’t think people quite understand the destruction currently being wrought by the Sleazy government.

By the way, the Oz today has a piece by Tony Abbott grandly titled “To thrive, Libs must hold fast to core values“. It’s a well written piece by Mr Abbott, with noble words however the problem I have with his piece is that I vividly recall how Mr Abbott and his government, from 2013 to 2015, did not hold fast to many core Liberal values, in fact they easily capitulated on many core Liberal values, two such examples, the 2014 budget, and of course, Section 18C. I recall how his government, on gaining power in 2013, did nothing about Gillard’s NDIS, now a large ocean octopus that is slowly but surely gobbling up this country’s budget, and of course, there was his government’s inaction on the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse. One of the first things the Abbott government should have done was to broaden the terms of the RC, instead it became a witch hunt into religious organisations, primarily the Catholic Church, and as far as I’m concerned it directly contributed to the hounding and then lynching of Cardinal George Pell. Perhaps I’m being unfair, but I don’t think so. I suppose initially Abbott and his crew were too busy being jolly decent, like bestowing cushy tenured positions on their ideological enemies, granting Shorten’s mother-in-law a damehood when they should have told her to stand aside, and then adopting Queensberry rules around those allegations against Bill Shorten, rules that the Labor opposition most certainly did not follow seven years later.

I think Mr Abbott should STFU.

Dot
Dot
June 22, 2023 8:03 am

Boambee

G/GDP certainly did exhibit choleric growth during the Gillard era. 🙂

Dot
Dot
June 22, 2023 8:07 am

instead it became a witch hunt into religious organisations, primarily the Catholic Church, and as far as I’m concerned it directly contributed to the hounding and then lynching of Cardinal George Pell

I suspect that you are being overly polite. The whole thing was a very intentional and targeted political hit job by cultural Marxists from the outset.

The best they got was a serially perjuring witness/complainant and a ridiculous-looking DPP barrister arguing that the DPP’s own theory of the crimes submitted to the court during the trial(s) should be ignored by the High Court.

shatterzzz
June 22, 2023 8:27 am

I think Mr Abbott should STFU.

True ..! .. but he’s found a VOICE on the, exceptionally, lucrative did-nuttin’-past-pollies international ‘speakers” circuit where he getz paid $quillions for waffling about anything whilst the “sponsors” hoover-up massive tax deductions …..

Cassie of Sydney
June 22, 2023 8:35 am

“I suspect that you are being overly polite. “

I suspect so too.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 22, 2023 8:36 am

Karl Marx has entered the conversation.

shatterzzz
June 22, 2023 8:36 am

Tried to buy a book from Amazon on my Kindle today. Haven’t done that for at least a year as I mostly buy hard copies now. They told me they have shut up shop on old Kindles like mine and that I would have to use some other platform to order on now.

Buy or, like me, pirate the book your after in any mode .. there are dozens of “freebie” or paid programs that convert to all the various formats used ……..

Roger
Roger
June 22, 2023 8:40 am

Sumantra Maitra destroys prog-left pieties after a stabbing spree in Nottingham:

“Here, “progress” means the lives of those who might be of some benefit to society are abruptly ended by the dregs due to a worldview that thinks everyone is equal, and that law and order and hierarchy aren’t important, and that justice should be reformative instead of punitive. Governance in Britain is functionally dead.”

RTWT

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 22, 2023 8:41 am

The Oz had several good articles on the Voice this week. However one aspect might be taboo. Rejected comment under Peta Credlin article

“Then there is the issue of who is actually Aboriginal and how is that verified”.

This is the subject they are not discussing but it is crucial as to who can vote for the Voice and who can be on it.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
June 22, 2023 8:42 am

Data from Japan and Germany display disturbing trend

Governments around the globe put a huge amount of faith in COVID-19 vaccines as their only intervention to reduce mortality. Yet, no prospective randomized, double-blind placebo-controlled trial has demonstrated a reduction in death with COVID-19 vaccines. On the contrary, every single data system around the globe has reported increased mortality coinciding with the roll-out of the vaccines.

Scherb and Hayashi used Japan and Germany for study of temporal trends in mortality. Both countries have excellent reporting systems. For Japan (125.7 M) and Germany (83.2 M), the WHO indicates as of 18, June 2023, and 14 May 2023, a total of 392,346,325 and 193,232,623 vaccine doses, respectively have been administered. This equates to 2-3 doses per person.

The authors found a disturbing jump in mortality coinciding with the start of mass vaccination. At the end of a pandemic, since the frail and elderly have suffered disproportionate casualties, there is usually a culling effect and mortality should go down. If the vaccines were effective, then certainly they should have dropped the death rate even more. The figures from Japan and Germany tell a different story.

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/all-cause-mortality-up-after-mass-covid-19-vaccination-c5aaa4f2

Roger
Roger
June 22, 2023 8:44 am

Perhaps I’m being unfair, but I don’t think so.

Abbott’s chief problem was that he inherited Howard’s broad church.

And it’s gotten worse, much worse, since.

Indolent
Indolent
June 22, 2023 8:47 am
Indolent
Indolent
June 22, 2023 8:49 am
Tom
Tom
June 22, 2023 8:50 am

Sorry about the lack of cartoons at 0400. Continuing internet connectivity problems. Hopefully it will be fixed later today.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 22, 2023 8:52 am

Howard ‘s broad church did have a few termites in the hymn books.

Indolent
Indolent
June 22, 2023 8:54 am
Roger
Roger
June 22, 2023 8:56 am

“Then there is the issue of who is actually Aboriginal and how is that verified”.

This is the subject they are not discussing but it is crucial as to who can vote for the Voice and who can be on it.

The High Court has already established that aboriginal identity is subject to three conditions: self-identification, demonstration of biological descent from an aboriginal ancestor and recognition by authoritative elders of an aborignal community.

If leftist politicians feel entitled to ignore this and pretend it’s more complicated than that, draw your own conclusions as to their integrity and purposes.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 22, 2023 8:56 am

A glorious frost free morning post the Nordic Doom Goblin’s point of no return.
Praise be hydrocarbons.

Indolent
Indolent
June 22, 2023 8:56 am
shatterzzz
June 22, 2023 8:57 am

“Then there is the issue of who is actually Aboriginal and how is that verified”.

This entire being bits & pieces 251 entitles you to beat the chest attitude from the likes of Lydia, the gucci-gnome & others is really just a joke but because of the Gough brain-snap of just-tix-the-box it has become not only fashionable but acceptable …
By comparison there is me .. a, white as you can get, ten pound tourist yet, based on the 251 formula, 1/16th Oz .. cos great gran (mum’s side) was born in Golden Point, Victoria in 1859 whilst great great grandad was digging for gold.
Soooooooooo LUIGI .. “Where’s my VOICE” ……..

Indolent
Indolent
June 22, 2023 9:00 am
Dot
Dot
June 22, 2023 9:01 am

To wagie cage pursuits!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 22, 2023 9:02 am

Black Ball at 7:11.
No need to wonder why the Hunchback government is dragging it’s feet on legislation to keep Denyer locked up.
One of the advocates for the legislation was the boyfriend of one of the victims at the time. He has been a vocal critic of Andrews on other issues, including LockDans, for quite some time.
He is none other than David Limbrick, Liberal Democrats member of the Upper House.
This is pure spite and vindictiveness by Hunchback.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 22, 2023 9:03 am

Never bet against the greed and envy of the compassionate left.

Roger
Roger
June 22, 2023 9:09 am

Howard ‘s broad church did have a few termites in the hymn books.

And bats in the belfry.

Crossie
Crossie
June 22, 2023 9:13 am

Bruce of Newcastle says:
June 22, 2023 at 7:48 am
Chicken nuggets will never look the same again.

US Approves Chicken Made From Cultivated Cells, the Nation’s First ‘Lab-Grown’ Meat (21 Jun)

Is this a way to make meat acceptable to vegans?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 22, 2023 9:22 am

Just 8 days left to save the Daily Exposé.
They have more close calls than the Doom-Pixie’s end of the world predictions.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 22, 2023 9:29 am

Nice article.

The human rights regime established in Europe and parts of America post-1945 wrecked any form of active democracy, since it took away agency from the people and concentrated power in the hands of an amorphous transnational blob manned by a swarm government, where there is no individual accountability, and, far from being punished for inaction, no one is in fact allowed to take any action. And anyone who dares to change, is removed by lawfare.

All those UN treaties and agreements didnt sign themselves.

Cassie of Sydney
June 22, 2023 9:32 am

“Sumantra Maitra destroys prog-left pieties after a stabbing spree in Nottingham:”

Exceptional piece by Mr Maitra. Every word he’s written applies to this country.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 22, 2023 9:39 am

Sumantra Maitra destroys prog-left pieties after a stabbing spree in Nottingham:

People with names like Sumantra Maitra are the problem.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 22, 2023 10:49 am

Looks like the blog hamsters have succumbed to
the Nordic Doom Goblin’s Hydrocarbogeddon.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 22, 2023 10:57 am

I see that Nick Gobbo is in the news again with the bloke investigating cracking the shits about the continuing cover up. Not looking at you much Overland and Fatty Ashton. And Big Ears.

The special investigator appointed to build criminal cases against disgraced barrister Nicola Gobbo and police officers who recruited her as a confidential source has attacked the director of public prosecutions (DPP) for refusing to approve criminal charges.

Gawd it’s a big bloke. But apparently with the right lady parts for a couple of hitmen to give it a hit.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 22, 2023 10:59 am

Aha! The main gun turret is back in action.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 22, 2023 11:12 am

Alan Jones gives his verdict on the state of the nation – slams The Voice but supports NSW Premier Chris Minns

Controversial television and radio commentator Alan Jones may have been off mainstream media but he has not tempered his views.

In a no-holds barred interview with The Daily Telegraph with the veteran broadcaster at his luxury apartment overlooking the Opera House he dished it out to those in power.

There was good news for some – well one, NSW Premier Chris Minns – and bad news for everybody else. He has labelled the Prime Minister “aeroplane Albo” and condemned his policies on energy and education, torn a strip off defence chief General Angus Campbell and said “vote no” to the voice.

That is not a surprise to the 82-year-old’s hardcore fan base who have remained tuned-in to his musings on his weeknight web-based broadcasts on Australian Digital Holdings (ADH).

“We have got 58,000 viewers in Serbia because I backed Novak over the coronavirus vaccine,” Jones said, after tennis player Novak Djokovic was banned from Australia for refusing to be vaccinated.

“I got into trouble obviously, for things that I said about coronavirus, about vaccinations,” Jones said.

“But those things have all been proven to be correct … we locked the joint down, we ruined the economy, we kept kids out of school. You know, there are consequences of the decisions that were taken, which I opposed at the time.”

Today it is the loss of freedom to hold an alternative opinion from an increasingly “woke mainstream“ that concerns him the most.

“We have a lot to answer for in this country in this follow-the-leader sheepish approach,” he said. “Today, we are almost a nation of one opinion.”

The Voice

Jones said debate around The Voice was his biggest concern.

“Say no to the Voice and you’re racist,” he said. “I would have thought the racists are the people who are trying to insert race into the constitution. I would have thought that’s the ultimate exercise of racism.”

Jones said he does not have and is not interested in the detail of The Voice.

“I’m just saying you can’t have race-based changes to the Constitution. So vote no.”

Energy

Characteristically not holding back, Jones described federal energy Minister Chris Bowen as “the most dangerous politician we have had in this country since the war” and condemned his push to renewables.

“If he is allowed to have his way the country will go into darkness,” he said. “He says we are going to have 22,000 solar panels a day. He’s mad, it defies common sense.”

Anthony Albanese

“Look, aeroplane Albo is a nice person. He never gets off an aeroplane but he’s shaking hands with people and having his picture taken with people he never thought he would meet in his life,” Jones said.

But in terms of policy the Prime Minister received a tougher mark.

“When you have a look at the promise that he made about energy policy and energy’s now on the rack,” Jones said.

“He’s divided the nation on race, and The Voice is not going to get up.

“There’s not a word about what’s going on in our schools. Education has been replaced by indoctrination in our schools.”

Peter Dutton

Jones said the failings of the Labor leadership meant the country had lost its way.

“There‘s a very confused nation at the moment crying out for leadership,” he said.

“Dutton was a cop. We need a policeman to arrest this nonsense, about energy policy, about education, about the Voice … this nonsense that we’re being fed daily.”

Chris Minns

One politician did receive the tick of approval from the feisty broadcaster — NSW Premier Chris Minns.

“I think Chris Minns is a very decent person, a very family-oriented person,” Jones said. “I think his judgement is good.”

Although it is too early in his term to predict how successful he will be in office, Jones said Mr Minns was backed by some good people including energy Minister Penny Sharp and water Minister Rose Jackson.

“The greatest thing you can say in favour of Chris Minns is that for years and years his party didn’t want him,” said Jones.

“So that meant he didn’t fit the mad ratbag element that often exists in some of these parties.”

Kathleen Folbigg

For years Jones supported Lindy Chamberlain until the courts found a dingo did take her baby and in the same way has supported Kathleen Folbigg, who has just been pardoned over the deaths of her four children.

He visited Folbigg in prison in the years before her release.

“I just saw her age before my eyes, I saw her writing deteriorate, she was bullied, terrible stuff. How do you compensate a person for that?”

He has been in contact with Folbigg’s best friend Tracy Chapman.

“I just said when the dust settles we’ll have a dinner as we did for Lindy,” he said.

Ben Roberts-Smith

Jones said the Victoria Cross recipient’s loss of his defamation trial against three Nine newspapers over accusations that he was a war criminal and murderer was “a disgraceful chapter” in Australia’s treatment of veterans.

He said the Chief of the Defence Force Angus Campbell needed to bear responsibility for what happened in Afghanistan.

“He’s got the bloody medal for distinguished command and leadership in action,” he said, pointing to General Campbell’s Distinguished Service Cross for his time overseeing operations in Afghanistan.

By the same token, under the Geneva Convention, a commander “may be held accountable for crimes committed by his troops, even if he did not order them. Did not know about them, or did not have the means to stop them.”

Instead, while keeping his DSC, General Campbell is seeking to strip soldiers who fought in Afghanistan of their medals.

“How are we going to get people to sign up to the military now?” he said.

Brittany Higgins

“It is the Canberra mafia at their best,” Jones said. “Our own Watergate.”

duncanm
duncanm
June 22, 2023 11:14 am

Regarding Gobbo (lawyer X)… I came across a very good point someone made the other day.

Gobbo’s the one we know about – how many other lawyers and barristers have been compromised by police in Sicktoria?

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 22, 2023 11:14 am

Gawd it’s a big bloke. But apparently with the right lady parts for a couple of hitmen to give it a hit.

I suspect it looks alright after a couple of years inside.

C.L.
C.L.
June 22, 2023 11:16 am

The reason why is because Jim Caviezel is a devout Catholic, and he doesn’t do Hollyweird bullshit.

The great (and devout) Patrick McGoohan was offered James Bond twice but turned it down because he disapproved of the casual sex. Asked about the decision later, he said he had no regrets whatsoever.

Connery wasn’t as bothered.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 22, 2023 11:21 am

Stir the porridge comes to mind.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 22, 2023 11:21 am

‘We can de-risk but not decouple’ from China, says Raytheon chief

Head of aerospace and defence group says western manufacturers will find it impossible to completely cut ties

Western manufacturers will be able to de-risk their operations in China but will find it impossible to cut ties completely with the country, according to the head of one of the US’s largest aerospace and defence companies.

Greg Hayes, chief executive of Raytheon, said the company had “several thousand suppliers in China and decoupling?.?.?.?is impossible”.

“We can de-risk but not decouple,” Hayes told the Financial Times in an interview, adding that he believed this to be the case “for everybody”. 

“Think about the $500bn of trade that goes from China to the US every year.

More than 95 per cent of rare earth materials or metals come from, or are processed in, China. There is no alternative,” said Hayes.

“If we had to pull out of China, it would take us many many years to re-establish that capability either domestically or in other friendly countries.”

Hayes’ comments underline the difficulties facing western manufacturers amid growing friction between China and the US and its allies.

Beijing in February imposed new sanctions on both Raytheon and US defence peer Lockheed Martin for supplying weapons to Taiwan. Hayes has also been placed under sanctions. 

The sanctions have had little commercial impact as the groups are not allowed to sell military equipment to China. Raytheon, however, has a substantial commercial aerospace business in the country through its engine subsidiary, Pratt & Whitney, and aviation systems and cabin equipment specialist Collins Aerospace. It has about 2,000 direct employees in China. 

Both subsidiaries, along with other western aerospace groups, are suppliers to China’s first large homegrown jet aircraft, the C919, which made its commercial debut at the end of May. China is also an important aviation market for Boeing and Airbus. 

Nevertheless, the company is looking for alternative sources for some of its components. 

“We are looking at de-risking, to take some of the most critical components and have second sources but we are not in a position to pull out of China the way we did out of Russia,” said Hayes.

Raytheon believes that its decision to rebrand itself as RTX, announced on Sunday, will allow for a clearer distinction between the commercial aerospace businesses and its defence activities which will continue to trade under the Raytheon brand, he said.

Hayes told investors on Monday, the first day of the Paris air show, that the company would still meet its target to achieve $9bn of free cash flow in 2025 despite headwinds over the past two years, including inflation and a strained supply chain that is stressing resources both on the civil as well as the military side.

Pratt & Whitney has been juggling to supply enough new engines to Airbus while at the same time delivering spares to existing airline customers to fill gaps left by faster-than-expected wear and tear. Pratt & Whitney’s latest-generation GTF engine powers the Airbus A220s as well as some A320-neo family jets, although they have had some durability issues in particular in hot and dusty climates. 

About 100 aircraft were on the ground awaiting engines, he said.

Adding to the challenge is Airbus’s planned increase in production of its single-aisle aircraft to meet resurgent demand from airlines. 

“There is a natural tension between delivering engines to Airbus versus delivering spare engines to our customers,” said Hayes. 

The company is bringing on additional capacity both in the supply chain and in its maintenance operations. A new factory to manufacture turbine blades will open this year in North Carolina. It has also launched an upgrade programme to help improve the durability of the GTF engines. 

On the defence side, supply chain snarls continue to impact the production of rocket motors for missiles for both Raytheon and Lockheed Martin, including Stinger missiles and Javelins. The focus has been on capacity constraints at rocket motor producer Aerojet Rocketdyne which recently received government funding to help it expand its operations. 

“There is a bit of black magic to these rocket motors,” said Hayes. “We’ve had quality issues, shortages of labour and materials.”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 22, 2023 11:28 am

Opinion  Food security

Murky world of global food trading is too important to ignore

Dominance by a handful of companies over the flows of grain and other commodities deserves much more scrutiny

HELEN THOMAS

“Perhaps it was the ancient nightmare of the middleman-merchant that made them all so aloof and secretive”, wrote Dan Morgan in his 1979 book Merchants of Grain. “The old fear that in moments of scarcity or famine, the people would blame them for all misfortunes, march upon their granaries?.?.?.?and confiscate their stocks.” 

This time it is not hunger that thrusts the companies that control the world’s grain flows into the spotlight but dealmaking. The combination of US-listed Bunge with Glencore-backed competitor Viterra, in an $8.2bn deal, brings together two of the biggest traders of grains, oilseeds and other agricultural commodities, further tightening the grip of a handful of low-profile companies on the global market. 

It is the biggest reshaping of the top tier of agricultural commodities since Cargill, long the biggest of the pack, bought the grain assets of Continental in 1999. The deal will catapult Bunge into second place among the four global traders, who go by the shorthand ABCD, to include Archer-Daniels-Midland and Louis Dreyfus. And while the alphabetic label is outdated and the market has changed dramatically since the 1970s, concerns around a concentrated system of global food production remain.

Despite some emergence in public markets and social media, it remains hard to get good figures on companies that, whether you’re farming or eating, are impossible to avoid.

One oft-used stat is that the quartet control 70 to 90 per cent of global trade in cereal grains — a figure that is probably too high.

After the food shortages and price spikes of 2008 to 2012, China pushed hard into agri-trading through state-owned Cofco, which has muscled into the Big Four.

Jonathan Kingsman, whose 2019 book updated Morgan’s classic, reckoned the five plus Viterra and Singapore’s Wilmar, handle half the international trade in grain and oilseeds. 

Such dominance is worrying. The classic “hourglass” model of market power in food involves a vast number of producers supplying a similarly huge number of consumers, via a tight group of processors and traders. The dealmakers stress their complementary strengths but regulators, rightly, will take a close look. Argentina and Canada have already pledged to review overlaps. Brazil, Australia, the US and China are likely to follow suit, with some asset sales almost inevitable.

Traders is something of a misnomer: this group doesn’t make money simply shifting goods from A to B.

In recent years, they have expanded upstream into agricultural origination, storage, freight and port infrastructure, and downstream into processing, ingredients and final products, while moving into a wider range of foodstuffs.

“The big issue here is that when you have this vertical integration it creates huge intermediary power from farmers to consumers,” says Jennifer Clapp, professor in food security. An asset-heavier business means higher barriers to entry, and can help transfer dominance from one part of the chain to another. Bunge’s strengths in processing and downstream plus Viterra’s in merchandising and handling creates a more integrated global company.

Still, the dealmakers aren’t wrong that this combination looks a good fit. The unease may reflect that regulators and governments should be asking who is monitoring the food system globally, beyond the narrow prism of antitrust. “Nobody” is the blunt assessment of Abdolreza Abbassian, former senior economist at the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organization. 

Disruption, thanks to a changing climate, is becoming the rule rather than an exception. Traders keep food moving during crises and periods of price volatility, such as the pandemic and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. But such events are also good for business, with surging sales and record profits last year. 

The market is already in flux. Cofco’s emergence means a top tier of ABCC, replacing a commercially-motivated trader with a geopolitically-focused one. Nations preoccupied with food security are snapping up stakes: Abu Dhabi’s sovereign wealth fund bought into Louis Dreyfus in 2020; Saudi’s commodities investment company took a third stake in Olam Agri last year. 

Meanwhile, post-2008 efforts to establish better oversight, led by France at the G20, largely failed. “It wasn’t sufficient,” says Abbassian, of the market information unit established at that time. “And today’s needs are much, much greater. You need transparency at every level, from all commodities to final products and a more influential set-up to look at the market.”

Bunge’s big deal will prompt competition watchdogs to scrutinise the world of agricultural trading again. Everybody else should too. 

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 22, 2023 11:29 am

The first Bond movie was Dr No. Connery would not have been too bothered by the fact his co star was Ursula Undress.

“Connery wasn’t as bothered”

Roger
Roger
June 22, 2023 11:30 am

Exceptional piece by Mr Maitra. Every word he’s written applies to this country.

Yes, it applies to the whole anglosphere.

It’s notable that Maitra is from an ethnic minority and calls the malaise out clearly.

Roger
Roger
June 22, 2023 11:30 am

Thanks for attending to the blog’s woes so promptly, dover.

Roger
Roger
June 22, 2023 11:31 am

Still a bit wonky but better.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 22, 2023 11:32 am

Speaking of Gobbo and plod – Roger Franklin has an excellent article in Quadrant.

C.L.
C.L.
June 22, 2023 11:35 am

Site refreshing faster than it ever has.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 22, 2023 11:37 am

Aha! The main gun turret is back in action.

Interesting mystery for you TE.

Did the Galileo Project just find the remains of an interstellar craft? (20 Jun, via Instapundit)

That gave Loeb an idea. He went back with some of his graduate students and began scanning all of NASA’s data regarding meteors that fall into the Earth’s atmosphere. After a long search, he found one with a speed and apparent composition that also appeared to have been interstellar in origin. He named it IM1 (Interstellar Metor 1). Even more fascinating, the NASA data was precise enough to determine that the object probably wasn’t your usual meteorite and was likely composed of something much denser and harder, potentially suggesting something technological. He was also able to plot right where it came down, just off the coast of Australia.

Rather than leaving that mystery on the shelf, Avi Loeb decided to investigate. He’s the head of the Galileo Project and he raised private funds to mount an expedition to go see if any remnants of it could be recovered. (Disclosure: I sent him a few bucks myself because it sounded like a fascinating project.) This month, his ship arrived at the site and began searching for debris by dragging large magnetic sleds across the sea bed. (It’s rather shallow there.) Well, yesterday they found… something. It’s still too soon to say for sure, but it doesn’t look or act like a space rock.

“On Run 6 of the magnetic sled through the likely crash site of the first recognized interstellar meteor, IM1, the expedition research team recovered shards of corroded iron. At first, we thought it may be common industrial iron associated with human-made ocean trash. But when Ryan Weed ran the sample of shards through the X-ray Fluorescence (XRF) analyzer, the most likely alloy it flagged is X5 steel with titanium, which is also known as shock-resisting steel.

The yield strength of S5 steel, 1.7 GPa, is well above that of iron meteorites. This is consistent with the fact that IM1 was tougher in material strength than all other 272 meteors in the CNEOS catalog of NASA.

Most importantly, the shape of the recovered shards is nearly flat — as if they were surface layers broken off from a technological object which experienced extreme material stress.”

A quick look at the pdf linked in the story suggests a location around -1.3 deg , 147.6 deg, which appears to be north of the PNG coast from the map here on my office wall. My immediate thought was he’s found a naval wreck rather than a UFO. The alloy though is unusual, although I wouldn’t say unlikely in a military application.

C.L.
C.L.
June 22, 2023 11:38 am

Via Rita…

Media have backgrounded submersible captain as a Trump donor.
Because when a man and his companions are stuck in a tin can facing death, it’s important to know whether he likes Donald Trump.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 22, 2023 11:39 am

War in Ukraine

Top US official agrees to meet Ukraine war sceptics in Denmark

Jake Sullivan to fly to Copenhagen at Kyiv’s request to meet India, Brazil and others in ‘global south’

Joe Biden’s top national security aide will fly to Denmark this weekend at the behest of Kyiv’s government for an unannounced meeting with representatives of several developing countries that have not condemned Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Jake Sullivan, the White House national security adviser, has agreed to attend the meeting in Copenhagen with officials from countries including India, Brazil and South Africa, according to people familiar with the plans. The list of attendees has not been finalised and could change before the gathering, one of the people cautioned.

The diplomatic offensive comes as Ukrainian leaders have acknowledged their highly-touted counteroffensive is progressing more slowly than hoped.

Officials from Turkey and possibly China could also attend.

One of the people familiar with the plans said that, following the Ukrainian request, Washington has been encouraging China, India, Brazil, Turkey and South Africa to attend.

Sullivan will travel with Victoria Nuland, the number-three official at the US state department.

A senior EU official will also participate. The White House declined to comment.

The planned meeting to expand the pro-Ukrainian coalition comes after Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the Ukrainian president, warned that Kyiv’s counteroffensive launched earlier this month to roll back Russian advances had been “slower than desired”.

With the war expected to rage into next year, western officials worry about preaching the virtues of Ukraine’s resistance to the converted without making sure their arguments have wider appeal.

“Only little do we realise how much the rest of the world is not convinced,” said one European official. “They are not convinced. It’s a terrible thing to acknowledge.”

Bilateral trade between Russia and China has soared since the full-scale invasion, while India is Moscow’s largest customer for arms exports and has significantly boosted purchases of Russian crude oil, offsetting western embargoes.

Two people familiar with the plans said the officials would discuss peace principles for Ukraine in an informal setting. One stressed that the meeting was not intended to result in any concrete outcome.

The US and other western countries have backed Zelenskyy’s peace proposal — which calls for a complete withdrawal of Russian forces — but remain open to diplomatic efforts by others, including China, to press Moscow into ending its invasion.

The Copenhagen meeting will come after a three-day visit by India’s prime minister, Narendra Modi, to Washington, during which he is expected to discuss Ukraine with Biden, the US president.

Sullivan this week said that while India had a different perspective on the war in Ukraine, it would be useful to discuss the conflict with Modi. He added that Zelenskyy had urged Biden to engage with leaders such as Modi.

“We think this actually sends a message to the coalition and Ukraine that we’re working to advocate on their behalf with a broader range of countries than just those that show up around the table either in Nato?.?.?.?or at the G7,” Sullivan told reporters this week, when discussing Modi’s visit.

India, Brazil, China and South Africa — the other members of the Brics grouping alongside Russia — have refused to join western sanctions against Moscow while providing varying degrees of support to the Kremlin since it invaded its neighbour.

Another person familiar with the Copenhagen meeting said there was “no information” indicating that China would take part at a high level, but said it was possible a lower-level official could attend to observe the discussions.

Brazilian president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva has said that both Russia and Ukraine are to blame for the war, while South Africa has stepped up military co-operation with Russia since the invasion.

Turkey, a Nato member that has developed strong trade ties with Russia over the past decade, has maintained a good relationship with Moscow since the invasion while also pitching itself as a broker between Zelenskyy and Russian president Vladimir Putin.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 22, 2023 11:40 am

Articles in Oz, SMH and Guardian over Esafety Commissioner writing to Twitter about allowing hate speach on Twitter. Examples given but naturally all relate to far right because as we know the left does not do hate speech.

They have given Twitter 28 days to reply. Daily $700,000 fines can apply and one article mentions possible arrest of Twitter executives if arrive in country but not complied with the order to respond.

Seems they need to exercise a bit more control over Twitter.

Esafety Commissioner is regular attendee at WEF gatherings so I am sure thinking purely in the interests of the country.

P
P
June 22, 2023 11:43 am

Memorial of Saints John Fisher & Thomas More

A Man for All Seasons

Adapted by Robert Bolt from his play of the same name, this 1966 drama stars Paul Scofield as St. Thomas More, whom England’s King Henry VIII martyred in 1535 for his heroic refusal to bow to the monarch’s demands that he approve his illicit marriage and recognize him as head of the new Church of England.

C.L.
C.L.
June 22, 2023 11:43 am

Ursula Undress.

I’ll raise you then 50 year-old Monica Bellucci in Spectre.
Ooh. La. La.

Cassie of Sydney
June 22, 2023 11:45 am

From The Oz…

Twitter now ‘absolute bin fire’: eSafety commissioner
Tricia Rivera

Australian eSafety Commissioner Julie Inman Grant says Twitter has become “an absolute bin fire” with a third of online hate reports coming from the platform.

“It’s been a huge surge since October 2022 when Elon Musk took over,” she told News Breakfast on Thursday morning.“Twitter has always been fiery in terms of discourse, but it’s turned into an absolute bin fire.”

Ms Grant said it was “very, very hard” to be permanently banned from Twitter.

“You have to be the most egregious, repetitive spewers of hate to contravene the Twitter rules multiple times and be banned,” she said.

“We have extra-territorial reach. So, if they want to continue serving in Australia, they do have to abide by our laws.”

Isn’t it just fabulous that we have sneering, censorious and very grubby hypocrites like Julie Inman Grant wanting to decide what speech we can hear and what speech we can’t. And the above is very revealing, clearly Ms Inman Grant wants to be the arbiter of who’s allowed on Twitter, she doesn’t like the fact that Musk opened up the platform.

But I’m curious, I don’t recall ever hearing Ms Inman Grant speaking up and against the pre-Musk Twitter that was an “absolute bin fire” towards conservatives and anyone who dare to disagree with the progressive narrative. She never said boo about the “hate speech” that was rampant on Twitter prior to Musk buying Twitter…ahhhhh…but that hate speech was directed at conservatives, silly me!

Her selectivity is staggering but hardly unsurprising. It’s clear Ms Inman Grant clearly doesn’t mind some hate speech.

By the way, she was a Coalition appointee……………………..of course!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 22, 2023 11:45 am

Seems they need to exercise a bit more control over Twitter.

Pure coincidence that the in-voice vote is coming up.
PURE…
COINCIDENCE….

C.L.
C.L.
June 22, 2023 11:45 am

A Man for All Seasons

Robert Shaw was the best Henry VIII ever.

Worst: Eric Bana.

Cassie of Sydney
June 22, 2023 11:46 am

“Bourne1879says:
June 22, 2023 at 11:40 am

Snap Bourne.

Cassie of Sydney
June 22, 2023 11:48 am

“Robert Shaw was the best Henry VIII ever.

Yes…although I thought Damian Lewis did a pretty good job in Wolf Hall.

Roger
Roger
June 22, 2023 11:49 am

“We have extra-territorial reach. So, if they want to continue serving in Australia, they do have to abide by our laws.”

Mmm, yes…that threat ‘ll keep Elon awake at night.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 22, 2023 11:53 am

But I’m curious, I don’t recall ever hearing Ms Inman Grant speaking up and against the pre-Musk Twitter that was an “absolute bin fire” towards conservatives and anyone who dare to disagree with the progressive narrative. She never said boo about the “hate speech” that was rampant on Twitter prior to Musk buying Twitter…ahhhhh…but that hate speech was directed at conservatives, silly me!

She was just on 3AW.
Apparently Twatter was something of a 1970’s High School debating society pre-Musk, but has turned into a Glasgow pub brawl since.
Nanny Neil Mitchell makes the fatal mistake that the BBC j’ism made before Musk tore his wings off.
“I barely use Twatter, but it looks like more hate speech since Musk took over.”
Never on it.
But I just know.

Rabz
June 22, 2023 11:54 am

From the Oz – Severely brain damaged lying liar desperately trying to obscure the screech’s real intent:

Albansleazey eyes legal limits on the screech
32% Albansleazey has sought to place limits on the screeech, saying it would be restricted to issues which ‘specifically or differently’ affect people claiming to be Aboriginal

Yeah, no. Once the screech takes an issue to the high court and “the vibe” is successfully invoked there will be no legal limits on it.

The screech is such a ridiculous and obscene concept it defies description, which is obvious when you look at various labore morons attempting to (unsuccessfully) explain what the hell it is, how it will work and who will end up on it. Someone on Sky the other night was discussing the (seemingly) inexplicable increase over the last two censuses in people claiming to be aboriginal – I think the figure quoted was around 300,000.

They were also noting that there would have to be some sort of uniform large scale process introduced to assess just exactly who or what an indodgyknee was. To say that such a racial classification process would be reminiscent of Nuremberg race laws and South African apartheid is an understatement – and no, Rog, the process you’ve identified above is not acceptable – see for example, one Bruce Pascoe.

Introduction of the screech would constitute a coup by a tiny unrepresentative number of vicious grasping racist idiots that would effectively destroy our already utterly dysfunctional system of government. It would legitimise wholesale theft of people’s assets (based on their race) on an unprecedented scale – and that’s the most obvious snoutcome* for starters.

Those in government, the bureaucracy, the braindead lamestream meeja and corporates that are advocating it deserve to be severely punished for their treasonous dishonesty and stupidity.

*H/T calli.

areff
areff
June 22, 2023 11:56 am

More on Inman Grant, and her insistence that a link to a report about a trans bruiser knocking real gals around on NSW soccer fields is ‘hate speech’.

https://quadrant.org.au/the-esafety-commissioners-big-tax-funded-eraser/

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 22, 2023 11:59 am

But I’m curious, I don’t recall ever hearing Ms Inman Grant speaking up and against the pre-Musk Twitter that was an “absolute bin fire” towards conservatives 

I didn’t know that she was employed by Twatter back then.
Part of the Australia-Pacific “online content safety team”* or something.
That was the group which Musk reduced from about ten to zero shortly after he took over.
Methinks part of Julie’s anger is that Musk has discarded the “team” she set up.
….
* Censor.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 22, 2023 11:59 am

Spins wheel….

Whats racist today?

Using criminals own words against them..
Behind bars: how rap lyrics are being used to convict Black British men

Obviously the problem must be police picking on pickaninnies because of their music.
Scooping them off the street with big nets while twisting their mustachios while sinister piano music plays in the background.

He and two other young men admitted to selling drugs in Brighton, but claimed in their defence that they were victims of modern slavery – exploited by the Mali Boys to distribute its drugs and collect the proceeds. The two other teenagers were acquitted, but James’s defence was rejected by the prosecution. The court had been shown a rap video in which James could be seen dancing while alleged Mali Boys members traded verses over a brooding drill beat. This proved, the prosecuting barrister argued, that the boy was a willing associate of the gang. The boy said this wasn’t the case. He said he’d joined in with the filming because he thought it would be fun. He didn’t know what the song was about. He was just dancing.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 22, 2023 12:01 pm

“Strange Days”

Strange doings at a strange time in a strange land.

Videos of widespread military vehicle maneuvers around our nation popped up on the Web at mid-weekend while the American citizenry went about its holiday weekend business (including Father’s Day revels and “Juneteenth” celebration mass shootings):

Scenes of armored personnel carriers rolling down Walnut Street in downtown Philly; B2 bomber wings over Minnesota; Tank columns galumphing along an Idaho highway

… leading to widespread suspicions that something untoward is up. Durned if I know what it is.

It’s getting hard even for Democrats to ignore the accumulating evidence of the Biden family’s global grift operation, and “JB’s” obvious advancing mental deterioration, provoking moves that should lead to his ejection from office. Last week, their captive mainstream news media broadcast a cavalcade of embarrassing public idiocies committed by the Commander in Chief — declaring “God save the Queen” incongruously at the end of a Gun Safety Summit in Connecticut; groping actress Eva Longoria’s boobs after a White House movie screening; cracking a weird joke about the “Philadelphia girl” in his bed (Dr. Jill Biden); being introduced at an I-95 bridge collapse event by brain-damaged PA Senator John Fetterman who tossed up a word salad about the federal “delegadation” aiming to fix “infructure,” while dressed-up looking like Uncle Fester out of The Addams Family. The indignity of it all was really something to behold.

You understand, “Joe Biden’s” reelection campaign is another rank hoax, yet another trip laid on the American public by a desperate, degenerate Democratic Party that doesn’t know what to do next with public opinion souring on it.

There’s no way this gibbering near-corpse can run again. He can’t even perform as a puppet anymore.

He’s a broke-down engine pulling a train of failure, perfidy, and treason five miles long behind him.

The Ukraine war project he presides over looks more and more like an effort to conceal and cover-up his family’s bribery schemes by laying waste to the pitiful chump of a foreign land that went along with the grift — and which, anyway, is winding up as yet another American military humiliation with the Russians finishing off what’s left of Ukraine’s army in the failed “spring offensive.”

Do you suppose that all these military vehicle movements around the country in recent days signal a constitutional crisis in the offing, necessitating martial law? Let me lay it out: Absolutely no one believes that Vice-president Kamala Harris is up to the job of stepping-in when “Joe Biden” gets bum-rushed out of the White House. Nor, I’m sure, are they willing to force her to resign hastily without a substitute vice-president (say, Gavin Newsom) in place — a cumbersome process that requires approval by both the House and Senate. But if Harris were flat-out forced to resign, then Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) would automatically become president.

Mr. McCarthy is, arguably, just another houseboy of the now-heinous administrative state (or deep state, or permanent bureaucracy, or blob, as it’s sometimes called).

But he is not a Democrat, and is subject to the fractious pressures in the Republican Party, and could plausibly be induced to fire-and-replace post-haste the whole honking host of seditious rogues running the executive agencies — from AG Merrick Garland, to FBI Director Chris Wray, Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas, Treasury Secretary Yellen… every last one of them — which could even lead to prosecutions of these scoundrels.

Any way you cut it, it looks like the sudden catastrophic downfall of the Democratic Party, an existential crisis that would amount ineluctably to one possible outcome: nominate Bobby Kennedy, Jr. or die.

But then, what would Mr. Kennedy do about all the remaining bad actors in the Party of Chaos? My guess is that almost all of them down to the rank-and-file would snap out of the mass formation psychosis they’ve been locked in for seven years and completely flip, denouncing the tyrannical madness that their deposed leadership inflicted on our country. They might even believe it never happened, or that they were not responsible for it, like the whole thing was no more than a bad dream.

Or maybe, what we’re seeing in all these military movements is the prelude to a real live military coup d’état? Just sayin’…

Barry
Barry
June 22, 2023 12:03 pm

Ich bin ein Abo.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 22, 2023 12:04 pm

Receiving you loud and clear at the Deakin telephone exchange, Dover.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 22, 2023 12:05 pm

Rogersays:
June 22, 2023 at 8:56 am
“Then there is the issue of who is actually Aboriginal and how is that verified”.

This is the subject they are not discussing but it is crucial as to who can vote for the Voice and who can be on it.

The High Court has already established that aboriginal identity is subject to three conditions: self-identification, demonstration of biological descent from an aboriginal ancestor and recognition by authoritative elders of an aborignal community.

If leftist politicians feel entitled to ignore this and pretend it’s more complicated than that, draw your own conclusions as to their integrity and purposes.

Will there be a conservative group prepared to challenge in the High Court those of dubious indigenous identification?

m0nty
m0nty
June 22, 2023 12:07 pm

Dot, the whole point of Friedman’s critique of Keynes was that the Phillips curve would shift up when workers start factoring in persistent high inflation to their wage negotiations, thus leading to a wage/price spiral. That effect doesn’t happen over just one quarter, you big galoot. There is no spiral when the factors creating negative growth and rising inflation are short-run, and dissipate quickly.

Your assertion that Labor implemented Sinc’s policy suggestions to make Rudd and Swan the new libertarian economic heroes, standing arm in arm with old mate Milton F, is just laughable.

Another big fly in the ointment of your analysis both now and in 2011 was unemployment. It was safely under 6% trending towards 5 then, and even lower now.

We are in a post-COVID phase of the global economy which is characterised by labour shortages as the workforce shrinks due to work/life balance changes from the lockdown years, and long COVID cutting out a small but statistically significant percentage of prime-age workers. This creates supply chain issues and thus inflation, which can’t really be solved by monetary policy. Interest rate hikes won’t make long COVID sufferers get better. Neither would tax cuts.

Your prescription is always the same: take money from workers and give it to your corporate fat cat mates. Your ideology is based on sprinkling pixie dust on corporate profits so that it might magically multiply as it trickles down to the proles. Regular people saw through those lies decades ago. No one believes your old toot any more, Dot. Your time has passed.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 22, 2023 12:07 pm

Sicktoria

Daniel Andrews and a Refusal to Prosecute

In the lower house of Victoria’s parliament on June 20, 2023, Daniel Andrews did what he does best, which is to bring any institution he or his minions oversee into disrepute.

In this instance it was the parliament itself, whose members were treated to the Premier’s appraisal of a female member of the opposition as “a halfwit grub”, a remark he subsequently withdrew at the Speaker’s insistence but which, characteristically, he has since defended while point-blank rejecting any possibility of apology.

Low as that insult was, it was slightly more civil than a foul wisecrack about “shitting in a plastic bag” allegedly directed at another female Liberal who happened to be battling bowel cancer.

Andrews denies ever saying that, and with tears no less. But then, having had plenty of practice since his ascension to the premier’s office in 2014, he is an accomplished denier of everything and anything when confronted by accusation, evidence and his own purported words.

Why should he apologise for the most recent eruption of Danism? Andrews, as admirers and apparatchiks note with some glee, is Victoria’s supreme and absolute power.

Not the courts, not royal commissioners, not the Governor and certainly not the rule of law. Down here beside the Yarra, the law is what Daniel Andrews says it is at any given moment.

Underlings and other beneficiaries of his patronage know it too, and as far as outside observers can discern, they act accordingly. Consider as but one example the inquiry into the hotel quarantine mess conducted by retired coroner Jenny Coate, a solid party girl and onetime member of the Monash University Labor Club, of which Andrews was president. That investigation struck many as an exercise in suppressed curiosity; indeed, it wasn’t until Peta Credlin began turning up at the Premier’s daily COVID press conferences, a rare inquiring mind amongst the stenographers, that the full extent of the debacle’s cost (and who bagged those lucrative security contracts) could be dragged out into the sunlight.

Such is Andrews’ suzerainity that even the most penetrating sunlight, supposedly the great disinfectant, now elicits no more than the public-stage equivalent of a ‘get lost’ shrug.

It is the template for a familiar response, the contempt near palpable. The confirmation that Labor’s electoral operatives had plundered the public purse for partisan gain, the so-called Red Shirts scandal, was exposed in all its cheap tawdriness, yet no charges were laid and nobody was called upon to make recompense for the roughly half a million dollars stolen from taxpayers.

The latest injury to public trust and symptom of Andrews-style governance came today with the announcement by former High Court justice Geoffrey Nettle that he could see no point in continuing as the Special Investigator appointed to determine if charges should be laid against current and former senior police officers implicated in the Lawyer X affair. And the reason he can see no point?

Well, let Mr Nettle explain (emphasis added):

m0nty
m0nty
June 22, 2023 12:08 pm

… leading to widespread suspicions that something untoward is up. Durned if I know what it is.

Jade Helm II!!

WOLVERINES!!!!!

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 22, 2023 12:09 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 22, 2023 at 9:39 am
Sumantra Maitra destroys prog-left pieties after a stabbing spree in Nottingham:

People with names like Sumantra Maitra are the problem.

Turd Case reverts to crude racism based on “foreign” names.

Roger
Roger
June 22, 2023 12:15 pm

… and no, Rog, the process you’ve identified above is not acceptable – see for example, one Bruce Pascoe.

I don’t sit on the High Court, Rabz (more’s the pity).

It’s their definition, not mine, and thus it’s the legal definition.

As for Bruce Pascoe…I don’t want to get dover into trouble by saying why I think {edited} so I’ll just say his greatest talent is proving how stupid the “intelligentsia” of this country are.

C.L.
C.L.
June 22, 2023 12:15 pm

…take money from workers and give it to your corporate fat cat mates.

But enough about the war in Ukraine.

Delta A
Delta A
June 22, 2023 12:15 pm

Seven degrees and flannerying outside. Air con struggling to keep up.

Warmest June evah, no doubt.

Lysander
Lysander
June 22, 2023 12:17 pm

Apparently US Lancer Bombers have arrived in Sweden for the first time ever?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 22, 2023 12:19 pm

Boambee Johnsays:

June 22, 2023 at 12:09 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 22, 2023 at 9:39 am
Sumantra Maitra destroys prog-left pieties after a stabbing spree in Nottingham:

People with names like Sumantra Maitra are the problem.

Turd Case reverts to crude racism based on “foreign” names.

He prefers solid Anglo names.
Like “Ricky Slater”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 22, 2023 12:27 pm

The Fat Fascist Fool seems to be suffering from a major case of Relevance Deprivation Syndrome form the lack of traffic at Phat Pussy.

Or does he run another, more active blog, and only comes here for morning and afternoon tea?

And breakfast, lunch, dinner, morning and afternoon naps, and a nightcap?

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 22, 2023 12:29 pm

Rogersays:
June 22, 2023 at 12:15 pm
… and no, Rog, the process you’ve identified above is not acceptable – see for example, one Bruce Pascoe.

As for Bruce Pascoe…I don’t want to get dover into trouble by saying why I think {edited} so I’ll just say his greatest talent is proving how stupid the “intelligentsia” of this country are.

duncanm
duncanm
June 22, 2023 12:33 pm

Ms Inman Grant needs to do a live chat with Musk to sort it out.

Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC9JlG-ZXX0

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 22, 2023 12:40 pm

Left out my own additional comment:

We didn’t need Pascoe to prove that!

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 22, 2023 12:47 pm

The term ‘intellegensia’ is a Marxist – Leninist word and concept according to Robert Conquest. Says it all really.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 22, 2023 1:07 pm

Trooble at mill….

Members of the CFMEU’s mining and energy division have voted overwhelmingly to split from the union.

Ballot results submitted to the Fair Work Commission on Thursday show 11,501 members – 53 per cent of eligible members – voted in the secret ballot and 10,975 voted in favour of forming the separate Mining and Energy Union.

Just 197 members voted to stay in the CFMEU while there were 329 informal votes.

329 informal votes – so some bruvvers can’t read/write. Immigrant voters maybe.

Lysander
Lysander
June 22, 2023 1:08 pm

Hahah Musk on Twitter has said he’s “up for a cage match with Zuckerberg” 😛

Kneel
Kneel
June 22, 2023 1:08 pm

“What we have in this nation is a group of people that are poorer, sicker, more incarcerated and die earlier than anyone else.”

Then the question is why?

Shirley you are not suggesting that it is their race that is the cause? That their race leaves them genetically inferior for survival in the modern world? No, that would be racist, so you can’t mean that. Besides, I know more than a few Aboriginal people who are no better or worse off than an average “working” Australian – anecdotal, but even so dispositive.

So what is the cause?
Living in remote areas? Then perhaps we should fix things for all people in remote areas, not just one race that happens to be more likely to live in remote areas?
Other possible issues should also be addressed and solved in a non-racist manner – that is, unless you think racism is OK, in which case, what is your problem with “past injustices”?

In most “western” countries (and that certainly includes Australia), race is only an issue if you make it an issue. There is no “systemic” racism in Australia that is to the detriment of Aboriginal people – none. How do I know? In order to be “systemic”, then as far as I can see, it would need to be one of three things:
1) part of the law as written – nothing there to the detriment of Aboriginal peoples. There is some to their benefit, so yes, it is “systemic racism”, but you aren’t talking about things that are a benefit, are you?
2) rules and regulations (as decided, amended and judged) – again, no detrimental things, only those of benefit.
3) social advantage – don’t make me laugh. One of the worst social stigmas is to be called a racist and you know it – you use this all the time to extort more for “your people”.

So it’s not “systemic”, it’s not “race”, it must be something else. Since these are “your people”, you likely have a better idea of what it is than I would, so please let us all know – so we can fix it. Throwing lots of cash at what you said was the problem didn’t work. Then you said that was because “government” didn’t know what really mattered and we should just give you the money and not ask how and why you spent it. So we handed you a lot more cash and didn’t even audit how you spent it – that didn’t work either, at least for the last 30+ years it hasn’t. Maybe if you actually found the causes, we could target fixing the most pressing issues and see some change. But you don’t want that, because it would put you out of a job, wouldn’t it? And besides, you don’t know yourself anyway – and if you do, then why haven’t you fixed it yet?

Dot
Dot
June 22, 2023 1:10 pm

I’d like to have a decent discussion, but this is turning into navel-gazing because of m0nty’s lack of effort and conflation of separate but related arguments.

Dot, the whole point of Friedman’s critique of Keynes was that the Phillips curve would shift up when workers start factoring in persistent high inflation to their wage negotiations, thus leading to a wage/price spiral. That effect doesn’t happen over just one quarter, you big galoot. There is no spiral when the factors creating negative growth and rising inflation are short-run, and dissipate quickly.

Which is somewhat why I said [I doubt you got Freidman right]:

Unemployment increased (a lagging indicator) from calendar year 2011 to the end of calendar year 2014. [Edited – yes it was U- shaped, but more later.] Inflation constantly increased in all but one quarter during that time (it was positive and the same as the prior quarter). At best, there is no correlation between inflation and unemployment.

You are (still, rather bizarrely) that stagflation didn’t occur at all. It already happened when Sinclair wrote his article and the Chinese stimulus, vis a vis the minerals sector in WA primarily and by terms of trade saved our bacon. Please look at the RBA paper I linked earlier. Chart 1A towards the end of the document.

Your assertion that Labor implemented Sinc’s policy suggestions to make Rudd and Swan the new libertarian economic heroes, standing arm in arm with old mate Milton F, is just laughable.

I never said that. The economy was not growing outside of resources for much of calendar year 2011 so they could no longer borrow as easily. Bond rates increased all through the stimulus so that Australian government bond rates did not drop to Dec 2008 levels until Jan 2012. The stimulus wound down by design and the repeal of the carbon tax was Abott’s promise he kept and Gillard had the TFT raised to compensate for the carbon tax.

Note at any point I never praised Wayne Swan at all. I take issue with anyone who ever says I have.

Another big fly in the ointment of your analysis both now and in 2011 was unemployment. It was safely under 6% trending towards 5 then, and even lower now.

Unemployment is a lagging indicator (usually). Look at a smoothed graph of unemployment from 2008 to 2015. Compare the same thing to labour force participation. (This is what I was talking about earlier). Unemployment fell in the short to medium term because of the serially correlated (and likely cointegrated) dropout of discouraged workers. That decline, bottoming out and flatlining of capital investment in 2010 – 2012 in most other sectors of the economy had consequences, especially with the re-regulation of the labour market (the allowance to drop hours worked more freely in the GFC stopped an even higher unemployment rate).

The data is easily available on every single issue I have noted and anyone can see the results I am referring to.

I have said that there were a few years of gradual recovery before (or strongly implied that). I have shown you for a few years after the stimulus, inflation rose in all quarters but one. It took years to get over the stimulus and the recovery didn’t really resolve until the carbon tax was repealed.

We are in a post-COVID phase of the global economy which is characterised by labour shortages as the workforce shrinks due to work/life balance changes from the lockdown years, and long COVID cutting out a small but statistically significant percentage of prime-age workers. This creates supply chain issues and thus inflation, which can’t really be solved by monetary policy. Interest rate hikes won’t make long COVID sufferers get better. Neither would tax cuts.

Labour shortages were forecast but never really eventuated. They were predicated on 3% unemployment. The idea that long COVID has cut down a statistically significant amount of workers “in their prime” is medical misinformation. Supply chain issues are going away as they were artificial.

Interest rate hikes are going to happen if we want them or not as the largely foreign-funded RBMS has seen a dip in funding and formation at the start of this year and very little capital is raised in Australia for RBMS. The US funds rate is above ours so capital will flow to them without a premium on commercial bonds.

The idea that abolishing payroll tax (for example) wouldn’t make it more attractive to employ large numbers of previously long-term unemployed people is foolhardy and almost certainly false let alone the impact of higher capital investment accumulated over years under a lower tax regime being treated as irrelevant. Capital accumulation is the key to higher wages and standards of living.

Your prescription is always the same: take money from workers and give it to your corporate fat cat mates. Your ideology is based on sprinkling pixie dust on corporate profits so that it might magically multiply as it trickles down to the proles. Regular people saw through those lies decades ago. No one believes your old toot any more, Dot. Your time has passed.

This is really poor. Low inflation results in higher real wages. Increased capital accumulation increases wages. You must be very sure of yourself to assume you can boldly dismiss the Swan-Solow growth model; it is a verifiable, empirical fact that capital accumulation is the driver of wage growth. If human capital is included, high tax rates reduce the return to human capital and discourage the improvement of worker productivity.

It is an insult to “regular people” that they agree with unsophisticated slogans and want lower purchasing power, lower productivity and fewer incentives to study and retrain let alone simply earn a higher (nominal or real, disposable) wage.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 22, 2023 1:16 pm

Adapted by Robert Bolt from his play of the same name, this 1966 drama stars Paul Scofield as St. Thomas More,

St Thomas More’s last words, on his way to the block, were alleged to be “I pray you, master headsman, help me up this ladder. As to coming down, I shall make my own arrangements.”

John H.
John H.
June 22, 2023 1:17 pm

Those spiders are thorough. I mentioned my reading the Chagnon book on the Yanomamo here a few days ago and that book has appeared on web browser tab feed. I haven’t mentioned that book before but once on this forum was enough and even though I use a false name email account here it somehow went to my browser feed that uses my standard email account. You have been warned.

cohenite
June 22, 2023 1:28 pm

Turtle’s plan is working! Currently NSW is getting 4% of its electricity from ruinables: 2% each from fu.king W&S. Stupid coal: 83%; Gas: 5%; Hydro: 8%.

https://www.aemo.com.au/energy-systems/electricity/national-electricity-market-nem/data-nem/data-dashboard-nem#price-demand

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 22, 2023 1:29 pm

Max Chandler-Mather, greens MP in NSW, ranting about rent caps.

Getting ridiculous coverage by the socialist team at daytime SkyNews.

A poo denting name if there ever was one – a male (questionable) version of Sarah two dads.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 22, 2023 1:35 pm

West Australian Minister for Aboriginal Affairs is running around in circles, over the issue of the new Aboriginal Heritage Legislation. “A farmer will not need a permit to plant a crop, run livestock or replace a fence or other existing infrastructure…”

Unkind souls are pointing out that, where the land has yet to be surveyed for cultural heritage, proponents will have to initiate a survey at their own expense. “Thus, landlords could end up thousands of dollars out of pocket just to learn they do not need a permit to proceed with an activity.” “The Countryman.”

FWIW, 400 people turned up at the information session in Merredin.

johanna
johanna
June 22, 2023 1:47 pm

Zulu, I think the WA legislation and similar initiatives in other States are a slam dunk for the No vote. People are seeing for themselves what happens when the Aboriginal Industry (as opposed to actual Aboriginal people) are given unfettered power over other people’s property and rights.

Very best wishes to Mme Zulu, and look forward to hearing about your holiday plans soon.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 22, 2023 1:47 pm

Did the Galileo Project just find the remains of an interstellar craft?

Interesting Bruce.

Would be nice to pursue it to find out whether it was a human-sourced maritime wreck – or not….

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 22, 2023 1:49 pm

Aboriginal Heritage Legislation

This horrible turd dropped by McGowan for West Australians will at least give a fair warning to all Australians of what the inVoice will do.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 22, 2023 1:50 pm

Zulu, I think the WA legislation and similar initiatives in other States are a slam dunk for the No vote.

Resources Minister Madelaine King is poo-pooing any such suggestion – she is confident WA will support the Voice.

Thank you for your good wishes regarding Mme Zulu.

Tom
Tom
June 22, 2023 1:52 pm

Getting ridiculous coverage by the socialist team at daytime SkyNews.

Barking Toad, please don’t watch daytime Sky. It’s worse than nighttime Sky, which I find unwatchable.

m0nty
m0nty
June 22, 2023 2:01 pm

This is really poor. Low inflation results in higher real wages. Increased capital accumulation increases wages. You must be very sure of yourself to assume you can boldly dismiss the Swan-Solow growth model; it is a verifiable, empirical fact that capital accumulation is the driver of wage growth. If human capital is included, high tax rates reduce the return to human capital and discourage the improvement of worker productivity.

You are so off the pace it’s not funny, Dot. Your words look lovely on paper but you know what tends to happen when your policy prescriptions are implemented in the real world? Corporations get bigger and more powerful, politics is centralised and corrupted, and the proceeds of productivity gains start all flowing to the rich. The effect has been more pronounced in America than here over recent decades, but we are starting to see price gouging more and more here, a massive wealth transfer from poor to rich.

Capitalists can accumulate more and more capital, but if workers don’t get wage rises from a corrupt system that are commensurate with their productivity increases, then your airy-fairy laissez-faire ideology is exposed as a flimsy lie.

Look at long-run graphs of productivity versus wages. In Australia it has tracked a lot better in recent decades than the massive divergence in the US, but we are starting to follow their shameful lead.

Your head is stuck in books. Look up and examine reality. Touch grass.

johanna
johanna
June 22, 2023 2:02 pm

As noted in Quadrant, in Danistan the rule of law is irrelevant. A retired High Court judge, Geoffrey Nettle, was pretty much accused of not understanding the law by Kerri Judd. He headed an inquiry into the disgraceful Nicola Gobbo business, where the cops suborned a criminal barrister to get convictions.

Judd, who incidentally was recently humiliated by the entire HC in the Pell matter, has ‘hit back’ according to TheirABC:

Victoria’s director of public prosecutions (DPP) has rejected allegations that she should have authorised criminal charges over the Lawyer X scandal.

Kerri Judd, KC, said there was no reasonable chance of convicting those involved with the long-running saga, in which barrister Nicola Gobbo was induced by Victoria Police detectives to become an informer and betray her clients.

In a searing report tabled in parliament yesterday, the former High Court judge appointed to investigate whether Ms Gobbo or her police handlers should be prosecuted said he had presented Ms Judd with substantial evidence of criminal wrongdoing, but had been rebuffed by the DPP.

Justice Geoffrey Nettle, head of the Office of the Special Investigator (OSI), savaged Ms Judd, referring to her arguments against prosecuting Ms Gobbo or the police who recruited and managed her as “offensive”, “displeasing” and “disappointing”.

However, in response to Justice Nettle’s criticisms, Ms Judd said there were significant obstacles to successful prosecutions. She said one potential witness had demanded indemnity from prosecution and a guarantee their evidence would not be used against them, in return for their testimony. Ms Judd said she was unwilling to give those guarantees.

Kerri’s a true warrior, prepared to take one for the team. The things Nettle referred to concern to-ing and fro-ing during his inquiry, where she implied that he didn’t know what he was talking about.

AFAIK, Nettle is, despite his name, a mild mannered chap. But being told off by Judd for alleged legal incompetence was too much. He told Dan that they might as well call it a day, as his advice was clearly being ignored and disparaged. What would he know?

At this rate, like every other scandal in Danistan, this one will result in zero consequences.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 22, 2023 2:05 pm

Field Marshal mUntgomery moves the Wrongology battalion to the Emmanomics front. Expect casualties.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 22, 2023 2:05 pm

duncanmsays:

June 22, 2023 at 12:33 pm

Ms Inman Grant needs to do a live chat with Musk to sort it out.

Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC9JlG-ZXX0

That was my point about Nanny Neil Mitchell.
In his introduction to the tongue bath with the chief e-censor, he said almost exactly what the BBC dweeb said:-
“I rarely look at Twatter but undoubtedly hate speech has got worse.”
Err, you know this how exactly?

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 22, 2023 2:09 pm

Dot – have you tried teaching a Labrador calculus?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 22, 2023 2:10 pm

However, in response to Justice Nettle’s criticisms, Ms Judd said there were significant obstacles to successful prosecutions. She said one potential witness had demanded indemnity from prosecution and a guarantee their evidence would not be used against them, in return for their testimony. Ms Judd said she was unwilling to give those guarantees.

Well, subpoena them as you would a hostile witness (which they are).
You will quickly find the strident “demands for indemnity” turn to soft wimpering and pleading when faced with the prospect of giving honest evidence or possibly being done for perjury if another witness decides to do a deal and expose their lies under oath.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 22, 2023 2:11 pm

Father and son, from a remote community in Western Australia, are standing trial for bashing one of their neigbours.

They claim said bashing was “culturally appropriate” and “sanctioned by the elders.”

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 22, 2023 2:13 pm

He prefers solid Anglo names.
Like “Ricky Slater”.

I thought hed changed his name?

To Ricky Slataaaaaaaaarrrrrggghhhh.

Arky
June 22, 2023 2:17 pm

as the workforce shrinks due to work/life balance changes from the lockdown years, and long COVID cutting out a small but statistically significant percentage of prime-age workers. This creates supply chain issues and thus inflation, which can’t really be solved by monetary policy. Interest rate hikes won’t make long COVID sufferers get better. Neither would tax cuts.

..
Close.
Swap “long covid” for “long covid, vaxx injuries and the portion of older workers who have resigned from society in disgust after watching three years of authoritarian crap and decided they no longer give two sh*ts”.
Also swap “supply chain issues” for “deindustrialisation and transfer of our industrial base to Red China”.
And.
Inflation was created by: A decade of artificially low interest rates resulting in mal- investment; demographics; and the long term credit cycle.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 22, 2023 2:18 pm

Good news on the court action against the TaliDan regime’s transmission line ministerial orders. The Supreme Court has granted our group a hearing date in September.
There’s also a big farmer rally being organised for mid-August. We’re coming to Dan’s doorstep with the big gear.
All Cats invited of course.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 22, 2023 2:37 pm

Have to give the greenslime credit here…

Shoebridge told the senate:

Daniel Duggan has now spent 8 months and one day in prison. He was arrested on 21 October 2022 and since then has been in solitary confinement. In the last few weeks he has seen the sky only a handful of times but has otherwise been locked up completely alone.

There are grave concerns for Dan’s wellbeing, concerns that I share. His case raises the question: can Australian citizens really be locked up indefinitely at the request of a foreign power?

There are some big red flags around Dan’s prosecution by the US: the timing of the indictment by IS authorities in 2017 was exactly when the US started talking about China as a strategic challenge.

It’s clear to many that this is a politicised extradition and prosecution with the dual aims of making an example of China and placating our Aukus allies.

Did Asio conspire to lure Dan back to Australia for the underhanded purpose of the US extradition?

How can he be extradited for something that isn’t an offence in Australia and therefore fails the dual criminality test?

But at the heart of this matter is Dan, a husband, father and Australian citizen. I recognise now in the gallery the presence of Dan’s wife Saffrine Nydegger and his advocate Warwick Ponder.

They’re fighting for Dan to be released on bail to be with his family including his six wonderful children. They’re fighting for the Australian government to step up for this Australian citizen.

And I am with them, as are all my Greens colleagues.

Dot
Dot
June 22, 2023 2:42 pm

H B Bear says:
June 22, 2023 at 2:09 pm
Dot – have you tried teaching a Labrador calculus?

I counted that the old family Shih Tzu we had when I was in high school *knew* 85 words (which is indicative of only middling doggy intelligence apparently).

Some of the criticisms of supply economics is getting here are lacking perspicacity let alone sesquipedality.

I hope they’re written by AI or a very earnest doggy.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 22, 2023 2:49 pm

The Fat Fascist Fool says:

Your head is stuck in books. Look up and examine reality. Touch grass.

LOL, not a trace of self awareness.

johanna
johanna
June 22, 2023 2:53 pm

Skimming through TheirABC’s hottest new stories, there is one about why Taylor Swift isn’t doing a show in Brisbane. A vitally important national story, what with all that is going on in the world.

In fact, when one scans the ‘Just In’ page these days, there are more and more frivolous/promotional stories about showbiz interspersed with things like ‘Jane/John thought she/he could never (fill in the blanks) but this Government program made it possible. ‘

Then there are the numerous demands for handouts, either ‘this program is not being funded again/enough’ or ‘this program needs to be funded.’

Plenty of sad tales about the housing problem, with the only solution being more public housing, and no mention of immigration.

There is more, but you get the drift. A content analysis of Just In would reveal exactly how biased it is. Not that the SFLs and their Nat toadies have any appetite for this.

Oh for the days when Senators Faulkner and Ray would make bureaucrats sweat in Estimates. Every shiny bum in town dreaded appearing before the Dynamic Duo. It was a bloodsport in the best tradition of accountability.

Nowadays, while there are a few individuals doing excellent work, most Senators are either too lazy or not interested in getting to the bottom of what is really going on with all that public money.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 22, 2023 2:54 pm

Curious.
Well done health mongs.
You have either/and
a: Coerced the maximum number of people to have a vaccination which may have a causitive effect.
or/and
B: In your efforts to keep those who were “just sick” away from hospitals for the deadly, deadly corona plague missed many, many thousands of early cardiac cases.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jun/22/health-bosses-warn-of-heart-disease-emergency-in-england
England is engulfed in a cardiovascular disease emergency, health bosses have said, as stark figures reveal there have been almost 100,000 excess deaths since the start of the Covid pandemic.

Analysis of official government data suggests that more than 500 people a week are dying needlessly from heart disease, heart attacks or strokes. There have been 96,540 extra cardiovascular-related deaths since March 2020, according to the report by the British Heart Foundation.

In the first year of the pandemic, Covid-19 infections led to a surge in excess cardiovascular deaths, the charity said. But while deaths from Covid-19 have since fallen, the number of cardiovascular disease deaths have remained much higher than expected.

Vicki
Vicki
June 22, 2023 2:54 pm

There’s also a big farmer rally being organised for mid-August. We’re coming to Dan’s doorstep with the big gear.
All Cats invited of course.

Would be there except that I have sworn off visiting Victoria. But God Speed.

P
P
June 22, 2023 2:57 pm

Greens, Coalition move to force Senate inquiry into Calvary acquisition
22 June 2023

ACT Health’s plans to seamlessly transition Calvary Hospital into the public system may hit another road bump with the surprise news that the Senate will mount an inquiry regarding the acquisition after federal Greens and Coalition senators banded together.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 22, 2023 2:58 pm

Why the casual insult Vicky? Gladys was just Andrews in a dress and a nicer voice.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 22, 2023 2:59 pm

Im not suggesting my mates Lab can spell but after said mate got sick and tired of the dog going crazy at the mention of certain words he started spelling them to his missus. The dog soon associated the sound of the spelling with the action soon after. The dog has lots of toys. Some are the same except a different colour. He knows the difference between them when you tell him to get it specifically. The dog is 2 years old.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 22, 2023 2:59 pm

I do like those French protests when they drive a mob of sheep through the CBD. Works well for TV too.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 22, 2023 3:00 pm

My mutt only responds to commands as suggestions.

WolfmanOz
June 22, 2023 3:03 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
June 22, 2023 at 11:48 am
“Robert Shaw was the best Henry VIII ever.

Yes…although I thought Damian Lewis did a pretty good job in Wolf Hall.

Don’t forget the late Keith Michell in TV series The Six Wives Of Henry VIII.

Johnny Rotten
June 22, 2023 3:04 pm

So QUAINTARSE is now 17th in the Airline League. I am surprised that they are that high. Fiji Airlines is now above them.

Hats off to Singapore Airlines who are now Number One.

Well done the Irish Shirt Lifter who now thankfully is on the way out with the pot of Gold at the end of the Alphabet Soup Rainbow (wiv’ only 6 colours and not the proper 7).

Vicki
Vicki
June 22, 2023 3:05 pm

Those spiders are thorough. I mentioned my reading the Chagnon book on the Yanomamo here a few days ago and that book has appeared on web browser tab feed. I haven’t mentioned that book before but once on this forum was enough and even though I use a false name email account here it somehow went to my browser feed that uses my standard email account. You have been warned.

John H that is amazing. I am another culprit who mentioned (in discussing the cancelling of some anthropologists by the Woke) the offending name above that invoked web browser repercussions. I am relatively ” digitally challenged” so I have little understanding of how these things occur.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 22, 2023 3:08 pm

Don’t forget the late Keith Michell in TV series The Six Wives Of Henry VIII.

Also played Captain James Cook.

Johnny Rotten
June 22, 2023 3:11 pm

England is engulfed in a cardiovascular disease emergency, health bosses have said, as stark figures reveal there have been almost 100,000 excess deaths since the start of the Covid pandemic.

Probably similar here in Australia. I am amazed that the Guardian has reported this. Maybe the SMH and the Old Age could report something here on the Australian situation. But then again, maybe not. Or the ABC or SBS or, or, or, or……………………….

Vicki
Vicki
June 22, 2023 3:13 pm

Why the casual insult Vicky? Gladys was just Andrews in a dress and a nicer voice.

No, No. Gladys was a minor intellect and time server who followed the usual departmental guidelines …except when it came to her paramour, apparently.

Andrews is a different proposition. A very, very unpleasant political soloist who has put his personal stamp on his state. When I am convinced it is not indelible I may change my mind.

Johnny Rotten
June 22, 2023 3:17 pm

Father and son, from a remote community in Western Australia, are standing trial for bashing one of their neigbours.

They claim said bashing was “culturally appropriate” and “sanctioned by the elders.”

I must remember that excuse when my neighbors play the loud music late at night.

P
P
June 22, 2023 3:17 pm

Also played Captain James Cook.

An Aussie born in Adelaide and brought up in Warnertown.

I enjoyed him in Murder She Wrote.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 22, 2023 3:22 pm

Tash Peterson to take her blood-splattered vegan campaign overseas to UK and Europe
The West Australian
Thu, 22 June 2023 12:30PM
Sarah Steger

2:37 | The West Australian

Notorious vegan activist Tash Peterson is taking her infamous animal rights campaign global after receiving an invite to speak at a well-known vegan festival.

The 29-year-old on Thursday announced she would be jetting off to the UK for the Vegan Camp Out Festival in a matter of weeks after she appeared in Perth Magistrates Court over a confronting protest at a Northbridge steakhouse last year.

During the hearing, Peterson’s three charges — failing to leave a licensed venue, disorderly conduct and trespass — were adjourned until July 31.

The court was told that because Peterson had made prior arrangements to attend the festival as a guest speaker, she would not be able to attend her next court date in person.

Instead, the hardline vegan activist was given permission to appear by video link from the UK.

Is there anything that says we have to let her back into Australia? Can’t we cancel her citizenship and make her a stateless person?

Tom
Tom
June 22, 2023 3:25 pm

There’s also a big farmer rally being organised for mid-August. We’re coming to Dan’s doorstep with the big gear.
All Cats invited of course.

Please keep us abreast of time, date and location, Farmer Gez, and I’m sure his Doverlordship would welcome a post on the subject, if you have the time.

Lysander
Lysander
June 22, 2023 3:26 pm

West Australian Minister for Aboriginal Affairs is running around in circles, over the issue of the new Aboriginal Heritage Legislation. “A farmer will not need a permit to plant a crop, run livestock or replace a fence or other existing infrastructure…”

Unkind souls are pointing out that, where the land has yet to be surveyed for cultural heritage, proponents will have to initiate a survey at their own expense. “Thus, landlords could end up thousands of dollars out of pocket just to learn they do not need a permit to proceed with an activity.” “The Countryman.”

FWIW, 400 people turned up at the information session in Merredin.

And 400 people left more bewildered than when they arrived.

The issue is not just about works on land, rocks, trees, animals… that’s all shit. The worst bit is about a place of “spiritual significance” (i.e. no evidence of anything but the air you’re breathing is sacred Warrigal breath” ffs..

Lysander
Lysander
June 22, 2023 3:28 pm

I spoke with a WA MP last night and the rage over the ACHA bill is huge. Liebor aint backing down though…

Cassie of Sydney
June 22, 2023 3:29 pm

“Gladys was just Andrews in a dress and a nicer voice.”

No. Look, I’m not a huge fan of Gladys and the NSW Liberals, but not because of their economic management which was, on the whole, good. My issues were with such things as abortion, Matt Kean, the ruinables push and other such things. NSW, economically, was run quite well under the Liberals, that cannot be said about Victoria under Dan.

Cassie of Sydney
June 22, 2023 3:31 pm

“Vickisays:
June 22, 2023 at 3:13 pm”

Snap Vicki.

johanna
johanna
June 22, 2023 3:31 pm

Speaking of nonsense at TheirABC:

A man running a kangaroo sanctuary in South Australia’s mid north is facing eviction, leaving a family and 90 rescued kangaroos without a home.
Key points:

A man, his family, and 90 kangaroos face eviction
The owner of the sanctuary has nowhere else to go and no intentions of leaving
DEW recommends that the kangaroos are not released into the wild

The owner of Gumby’s Kangaroo and Wildlife Sanctuary, Andrew Oswald, has been rescuing kangaroos for the past decade, a venture that the ex-war veteran said helped him manage his post-traumatic stress disorder.

At times, the sanctuary at Wandearah East has been used to educate University of Adelaide vet students and facilitate Port Augusta Prison’s Lemongrass Program, helping offenders transition successfully back to community.
kangaroos and hay
Mr Oswald said the rescued kangaroos may have to be euthanased if a home can’t be found.(Supplied: Andrew Oswald )

Mr Oswald has rented the property for the past six years but was recently told he must vacate the premises before June 27.

and

Mr Oswald said he had invested a lot into the sanctuary, including $30,000 a year to feed the kangaroos.”I’m on a disability pension. My daughter is on a Centrelink payment. She’ll contribute to our human food while my money is diverted to rent and paying for food for the animals,” he said.

The maths don’t compute here. If two people can live on a single Centrelink payment, and 90 kangaroos plus their land can live on a disability pension … I’m sorry, my head is spinning trying to work it out.

While looking after kangaroos may be personally gratifying, the farmers and graziers trying to make a living against swollen populations after lots of rain take a different view.

More quality ‘journalism’ from people who have never been west of Marrickville.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 22, 2023 3:32 pm

The issue is not just about works on land, rocks, trees, animals… that’s all shit. The worst bit is about a place of “spiritual significance” (i.e. no evidence of anything but the air you’re breathing is sacred Warrigal breath”

The only sensible option is to damage the places so much theres nothing left to “protect”.

Gellignite for everyone!!!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 22, 2023 3:34 pm

War hero Cam Baird would have refused Victoria Cross had he lived
EXCLUSIVE
By JAMIE WALKER
Associate Editor
@JamieWalkerOz
5:40PM June 21, 2023
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It’s been a decade since Cameron Baird died in the chaotic gunfight in Afghanistan that earned him a posthumous Victoria Cross and entry into the Australian Army’s most select club.

Yet here’s the thing: those who knew the unassuming soldier best remain convinced he would have refused the medal, with all of its life-changing trappings, had he survived.

How fitting then that his friends, family and comrades from the elite 2nd Commando Regiment will gather quietly in Sydney on Thursday to mark the 10th anniversary of Corporal Baird’s death and remember the brave, honourable man he was.

Especially when the shadow of another VC recipient, the disgraced Ben Roberts-Smith, looms so large over the special forces community of commandos and SAS, the tip of the spear in Australia’s longest war.

Only 96 Australians have been awarded the Victoria Cross since it was first issued by the British in 1856, and just four are living: ­Roberts-Smith, fellow Afghanistan veterans Mark Donaldson and Daniel Keighran, and 90-year-old Vietnam stalwart Keith Payne.

Like Roberts-Smith, Baird was a giant of a man who stood 190.5cm and weighed in at 110kg. Otherwise, however, the VCs could not have gone to two more different soldiers.

Where Roberts-Smith cut a polarising figure in the SAS – fleshed out during the defamation case he launched against Nine Entertainment – Baird was reserved and thoughtful.

A Buddhist, he collected fine art in his spare time.

Childhood friend Chris Dyer said Baird would have followed in the bootsteps of his dad, Doug, and played professional football had a shoulder injury not blown his chances in the AFL draft in 1999. Instead, he joined the army.

“When he was playing, I thought he’d win the Brownlow one day,” said Dyer, 41, citing the AFL’s best and fairest award.

“And when he went into the army, I thought he’d get the VC.

“Turned out he did – just not the way we wanted it to happen.”

No one was calmer or more dependable under fire. On the third of his four deployments to Afghanistan in 2007, he was put up for the Medal for Gallantry – ranked third behind the VC – after he went to the aid of a mortally wounded team member, drawing the Taliban’s fire and killing several insurgents in the process.

He accepted the decoration only after his mates prevailed on him to change his mind; he thought he had failed the stricken soldier. Take the medal for us, Cam, the others urged. So he did, reluctantly. “Cameron was a very moral and ethically grounded soldier,” said his then commanding officer, Brigadier Brett Chaloner.

An eerily similar scenario would play out on the day he earned the VC in 2013 to become the second-last of 41 Australians to die in Afghanistan.

His platoon was assaulting a fortified Taliban position in Ghawchak village in Uruzgan province when the leader of another fire team was hit. Baird did not hesitate. He charged the enemy to reach the wounded man, exposing himself to withering machinegun fire.

His rifle jammed, but he attacked again. And again. He was killed during a third, successful attempt to silence the Taliban guns.

Chaloner, now CO of the Army Reserve’s 13th Brigade in Perth, said Baird was such a humble man he would almost certainly have hesitated to take the VC.

Mr Dyer, who runs the charity Cam’s Cause to help Afghanistan veterans in memory of his friend, said the public needed to understand that returned soldiers lived with the costs of war service long after they returned home

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 22, 2023 3:35 pm

Agree fiscally gladyshockian was better than the dicktator. Abortion and electricity no difference. Crooked too it turned out.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 22, 2023 3:37 pm

Same Marxist indoctrination in NSW skools too.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 22, 2023 3:37 pm

“What we have in this nation is a group of people that are poorer, sicker, more incarcerated and die earlier than anyone else.”

Then the question is why?

ACEs.
Adverse Childhood Experiences.
There are 10 of these, including
#1. Parental Domestic Violence
#2. Physical abuse
#3. Sexual abuse
#4. Emotional abuse
#5. Physical neglect
#6. Emotional neglect
#7. A Mentally Ill person living in the house
#8. A parent in Jail
#9. Substance abuse in the home
#10. Divorce
Each of those scores 1 point, 6 points has been found to take 20 years off lifespan, plus a number of other negatives.
Linda Burney was talking yesterday about 30 Indigenous people living in a 2 bedroom unit she visited.
If any children were unfortunate enough to live in that unit, how many ACEs would they score?

cohenite
June 22, 2023 3:38 pm

Great rebuttal of the Mar-a-Lago bullshit indictment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu5fqlBn9xg

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 22, 2023 3:38 pm

Im not suggesting my mates Lab can spell

Labradors are incredibly loving dogs – they’re basically puppies for 15 years – and eating machines. Had one for years.

Now got a miniature poodle. Not 12 months old and cunning as a shithouse rat.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 22, 2023 3:40 pm

Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act: Furore over ‘intangible elements’ definition, Roger Cook addresses concerns
Josh Zimmerman
The West Australian
Wed, 21 June 2023 8:57PM
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The definition of Aboriginal cultural heritage will be updated within days to explicitly recognise “intangible elements” — which the Cook Government says could be “something like songlines” or a “spiritual site” on “the top of a hill”.

Parliament was once again consumed by a fiery back and forth over new modernised heritage laws on Wednesday, with the Opposition accusing the Government of ignoring community concerns and Labor claiming the Liberals and Nationals were “fuelling anger and negativity”.

The day began with the man behind a 30,000-signature petition calling for a six-month delay to the new heritage regime, sensationally claiming the Cook Government “should “scrap the whole damn thing and start again”.

Describing the Act as a “bureaucratic mess”, Pastoralists and Graziers Association president Tony Seabrook seized on what he claimed was confusion over what would be considered Aboriginal cultural heritage.

“Of greatest concern of all is the ambiguity within the regulations as proposed and the fact that it can be a landscape, it can be anything,” he said. “You have to drill down into the simple little lines in there that are of the greatest degree of risk to us.
Pastoralists and Graziers Association president Tony Seabrook savaged the new Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act as he was joined at Parliament to table his petition by Opposition Leader Shane Love

“And one of those lines says, just because there has been a determination indicating there is no ACH on that particular piece of land, it does not mean that at some point in the future it cannot be found. That is so loose and so dangerous and it’s wrong.”

In response to a question from Opposition Leader Shane Love — which was met with accusations of racism from a Labor backbencher — Aboriginal Affairs Minister Tony Buti explained an “intangible object would be something like songlines or the fact that on the top of a hill there may be a very significant spiritual site”. “It hasn’t changed. It’s just that we explicitly expressed it in the legislation,” Mr Buti said.

Asked whether a site survey conducted by a native title group today would remain valid in a year’s time, Mr Buti replied: “As (occurs) now, if something happens in the future and there is (new) Aboriginal cultural heritage, you may need to try and ensure that damage doesn’t take place”.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 22, 2023 3:44 pm

Barking Toadsays:

Max Chandler-Mather, greens MP in NSW, ranting about rent caps.

Getting ridiculous coverage by the socialist team at daytime SkyNews.

A poo denting name if there ever was one – a male (questionable) version of Sarah two dads.

He’s the Member for Griffith in Qld, the only Seat Labor lost at the 2022 Election, and they’re still filthy about it.
He’s done a fair job blocking Medium Density housing at Holland Park West which would plonk 400 derros in a family suburb miles from any Pubs, Bottleos or Brothels.

Lysander
Lysander
June 22, 2023 3:44 pm

Is the Freemasons Bar in Gerro sacred? 😛

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 22, 2023 3:47 pm

Then the question is why?

Drs day today, we had a new nurse on the trip as well.
Only been in Oz for a month, ex-NZ now in Carnarvon.

I was mentioning a difficult pregnancy we had been treating here and how the lady had fallen through the cracks for the first 5 months or so, not seeing a dr in that time.

She told me a few about how “challenging’ it was with some of the inidgie patients in the region there. far in excess of what shed experienced in Un Zud.

One lady 30’s, end stage renal failure who doesnt medicate/dialysis until shes at deaths door each time.
People who get treated then go “long grassing” or straight back onto drugs/drink/dissipation and the wounds refester or illnesses reoccur.
People who chuck their medication when they get back on the piss in general, very poor following of treatment regimes.
And lastly a lady in her late 30’s, preggers for the first time with a number of issues that make it a high risk pregnancy with 2 months left to go whos last known address is “somewhere north of Carnarvon”.

When Burney can explain how the voice will solve any of this ill listen.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 22, 2023 3:47 pm

I spoke with a WA MP last night and the rage over the ACHA bill is huge. Liebor aint backing down though…

Let’s see. The Cookie Monster has found his inner totalitarian since Sneakers got his marching orders.

cohenite
June 22, 2023 3:51 pm

And the Durham report reduced to its core purpose and failure to achieve it; beautifully summed up by Jordan and Gaetz in about 3 minutes. Durham looks like an ugly lap dog, which is probably over-praising him. One thing though, even Jordan and Gaetz got that deep state mongrel Barr wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8LOQjp1lJY

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 22, 2023 3:53 pm

GreyRangasays:

June 22, 2023 at 3:00 pm

My mutt only responds to commands as suggestions.

We have two.
One has excellent recall. Well, he did when we finally reverted to the name shown on his papers (rescue dog). Strangely enough, the name he had when we got him was phonetically very similar to his original name, but he can distinguish the two.
The other (also a rescue) just gives that look in response to any command … “It’s on my list. I’ll get to it when I can. Mmmkay?”

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 22, 2023 3:54 pm

if something happens in the future and there is (new) Aboriginal cultural heritage, you may need to try and ensure that damage doesn’t take place”

Awesome.
I will take my newly incorporated didjabringabongalong tribal group and do something mysteriously sacred in the middle of the Superpit tomorrow then.

My excavating and removing ore for processing is merely part of the sacredness you just dont understand.

Lysander
Lysander
June 22, 2023 3:56 pm

FIFY

The Cookie Monster has found his inner totalitarian since Sneakers got

caught.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 22, 2023 3:57 pm

My excavating and removing ore for processing is merely part of the sacredness you just dont understand.

I’m waiting for the first howls of “No respect for Indigenous culture and traditions.”

Lysander
Lysander
June 22, 2023 3:57 pm

So, what if they want to put like a spider cam at Optus Stadium (which is right next to the Warrigal spirit)…

Lysander
Lysander
June 22, 2023 3:58 pm

https://parliament.wa.gov.au/WebCMS/webcms.nsf/watch-liv

WA Question Time about to start…. popcorn and fireworks.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
June 22, 2023 3:59 pm

30,000 signatures on a petition to the WA government seeking to postpone the ridiculous aboriginal heritage act.

WA Government response – “get stuffed”.

Aren’t you glad you voted Labor?

Frank
Frank
June 22, 2023 4:00 pm

The French like to use poodles as police dogs.

johanna
johanna
June 22, 2023 4:01 pm

Toad, poodles are very smart indeed, and the stupid haircuts they were given by society ladies masked their real identity.

A full size poodle is a proper dog, complete with hunting instincts. Don’t know about the mini ones.

Peter Temple’s admirable Jack Irish novels featured a pair of full size poodles living at his place in the country. They were unshorn and treated like farm dogs – although they constantly tried to inveigle their way into the fireside, and succeeded now and then.

They don’t shed either – a good choice for someone who wants a low maintenance pooch.

Speaking of beasties, scrolling through the teev the other day I chanced upon an episode of the excreble Bondi Vet. I won’t go into the reasons why as Dover doesn’t need the grief.

Anyway, the segment was about an injured pet sheep of indeterminate breed, but the vets guessed that it was a Dorper/Merino cross.

Thinking of Pedro, Zulu, and generations of graziers, no wonder the stupid beast managed to get injured while being cossetted in the city. 🙂

Vicki
Vicki
June 22, 2023 4:02 pm

In response to a question from Opposition Leader Shane Love — which was met with accusations of racism from a Labor backbencher — Aboriginal Affairs Minister Tony Buti explained an “intangible object would be something like songlines or the fact that on the top of a hill there may be a very significant spiritual site”.

While “songlines” may still be viable in areas where regional Aboriginal communities have maintained such traditions, it is not conceivable that they can be recalled or traced today in most regions across the country.

“Songlines”were a very basic mechanism whereby a non literate people could convey to their “mob” the pathways across the territory that they inhabited. As I recall, the term originated from the fact that distinctive features of the landscape where incorporated in “songs” that were taught to initiated men. The original sand drawings (which were later interpreted by way of the paintings that were encouraged in the early Papunya art community ) similarly were primitive “maps” that indicated vital food and water sources.

I am not saying that many local language groups do not still possess such knowledge. What I am saying is that these idiot politicians have no real understanding of what they are claiming. Recognised landmarks and sites of spiritual significance may indeed be still recognised by local people, and they have physical reality. But when politicians start rabbiting on about “songlines” they are on far less tenuous grounds.

Chris
Chris
June 22, 2023 4:09 pm

Awesome linkage from Instapundit to an excellent article: Jon Haidt on

Why the Mental Health of Liberal Girls Sank First and Fastest
Evidence for Lukianoff’s reverse CBT hypothesis

Lysander
Lysander
June 22, 2023 4:11 pm

But when politicians start rabbiting on about “songlines” they are on far less tenuous grounds.

Let alone “spirits” Vikki (particularly from some Ministers who’d hang Christians along the Swan River for daring to believe in The One Spirit).

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 22, 2023 4:13 pm

Thinking of Pedro, Zulu, and generations of graziers, no wonder the stupid beast managed to get injured while being cossetted in the city.

To recap, everything you need to know about sheep from a Pom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bysa2U6rJxQ

Vicki
Vicki
June 22, 2023 4:13 pm

My excavating and removing ore for processing is merely part of the sacredness you just dont understand.
I’m waiting for the first howls of “No respect for Indigenous culture and traditions.”

Far worse. I am waiting for them to claim sovereignty over EVERYTHING beneath the surface of the soil. At the moment, this belongs to the Crown, and mining rights have to be sought & paid for……..

Think about the consequences of that.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 22, 2023 4:15 pm

They’re fighting for Dan to be released on bail to be with his family including his six wonderful children. They’re fighting for the Australian government to step up for this Australian citizen.

How many of those who screeched incessantly on behalf of the Biloela (non-citizen) family are supporting this campaign?

Numbers, if you are lurking, how about you?

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 22, 2023 4:23 pm

Far worse. I am waiting for them to claim sovereignty over EVERYTHING beneath the surface of the soil. At the moment, this belongs to the Crown, and mining rights have to be sought & paid for……..

Think about the consequences of that.

Okay.
Australia becomes an Oligarchy, since only the Super Rich will be able to afford to get anything done.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 22, 2023 4:24 pm

Johanna, my poodle is as tough as anything.

If someone suggested getting a poodle years ago I would have said eff off. I don’t want a poof dog.

But this little bloke will take on anything – likes to hang with the big dogs at puppy school.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 22, 2023 4:26 pm

How many of those who screeched incessantly on behalf of the Biloela (non-citizen) family are supporting this campaign?

Who cares?

Numbers, if you are lurking, how about you?
You’re really missing Numbers.
Is it because he gave you cover to Larp as a conservative Something-or-Other?

Figures
Figures
June 22, 2023 4:26 pm

Monty, now that you are talking economics, can you answer some simple question?

Do you believe in the substitution effect?

If you don’t believe in it, then does that mean you don’t think there is any point in punishing or rewarding certain types of behaviour?

Figures
Figures
June 22, 2023 4:26 pm

Monty, now that you are talking economics, can you answer some simple question?

Do you believe in the substitution effect?

If you don’t believe in it, then does that mean you don’t think there is any point in punishing or rewarding certain types of behaviour?

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 22, 2023 4:31 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 22, 2023 at 4:26 pm
How many of those who screeched incessantly on behalf of the Biloela (non-citizen) family are supporting this campaign?

Who cares?

Numbers, if you are lurking, how about you?
You’re really missing Numbers.
Is it because he gave you cover to Larp as a conservative Something-or-Other?

Turd Case

Give up on trying to read minds. You are mindless, so cannot do it.

Dot
Dot
June 22, 2023 4:36 pm

…supply side economics…

An earlier howler. I’m surprised the Dolores Umbridge fans did not chip away earlier.

JC
JC
June 22, 2023 4:44 pm

Thank Allah we finally have Thought Leaderdship beginning to give us lessons on the economy again.

Also swap “supply chain issues” for “deindustrialisation and transfer of our industrial base to Red China”.

Oh yes, supply chains from the rest of the world (excluding China) were going just fine and dandy during the period of global lock-downs.

And.
Inflation was created by: A decade of artificially low interest rates resulting in mal- investment; demographics; and the long term credit cycle.

Even though Inflation was below target until the pandemic hit, even though western economies were operating on a low inflation regime, interest rates were too low. And how does the Leadership knows this? Who knows.
As for demographics, Japan has some of the worst demo in the world and has also had one of the lowest inflation rates in the western world. However, if his leadership says so, who are mere mortals to argue.

Oh yea, that pesky long term credit cycle. How could anyone forget, the long term credit cycle?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 22, 2023 4:57 pm

Running a bit slow at the Deakin telephone exchange atm, Dover.

Chris
Chris
June 22, 2023 4:58 pm

If someone suggested getting a poodle years ago I would have said eff off. I don’t want a poof dog.

We got a Maltese/ShiTsu cross puppy ardently desired by Miss 6yo, after an extensive lesson on saving up and caring for said hound when we got it.

Lovely little dog, enormous wit and character and a real asset to the family.

In later years I was taking him for a beach walk at Monkey Mia , and a younger bloke made some remark about my dog matching my handbag.
“MAAAATE!” I says, unabashed.
“This dog is a total CHICK MAGNET!”
He looked rather sour at that.

I didn’t tell him that all the chicks Sparky pulled were under 12 years old. They were mad for him!

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 22, 2023 5:00 pm

Don’t get me wrong I despise the dicktator but the official opposition is just lino RINO. Avi is the opposition and Rukshan. It was WA not vicco that gave the lab greens a majority in the senate last election

calli
calli
June 22, 2023 5:03 pm

Top o’ the mornin’ Cats from beautiful Wales.

Off for a drive around Anglesea shortly – there are some wonderful neolithic burial chambers over there that I’d like to see, including one that faces the dawn on midsummer day to illuminate the tomb, Indiana Jones Style.

A couple of days ago the place was crawling with druids, according to a local. Glad I missed it. Also going to do a Beaumaris drive-by around the coast road up to Holyhead. Oooh…it’s a long way I was warned. 😀

The inn we are staying at is called the Black Boy (soon to be cancelled, I imagine as it’s named for a black boy – I’m yet to get the story). A conbled together mass of buildings in stone and plaster with lots of nooks and crannies. I totally expect to see pirates in the corners swilling from tankards and discussing pillage.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 22, 2023 5:09 pm

But when politicians start rabbiting on about “songlines” they are on far less tenuous grounds.

The concept is around in Britain IIRR, with “ley lines” with lines drawn between sacred structures. Akin to Bula the monster that comes out of the billabong.

All of them are just scams to get money out of people, preferably governments with lots of dosh.

Unless of course they can magic up Bula, in which case bring it on.

Chris
Chris
June 22, 2023 5:10 pm

Awesome Calli!
We loved the Scapegoat you gave us, the Artist in Residence has been working with some similar themes. As you said, the frame adds to it an extra dimension.
Stay away from coal mine dumps, and look out for baritones.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 22, 2023 5:13 pm

Dogs are even better than vegemite on toast.

Cats are evil.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 22, 2023 5:14 pm

Barry Cable: WA football great removed from Western Australian Hall of Champions
Craig O’Donoghue
The West Australian
Thu, 22 June 2023 2:41PM

Disgraced former footballer Barry Cable has been axed from the WA Hall of Champions after being found by a judge to have sexually abused a young girl.

In the first of what looms as a barrage of honours to be stripped from the record books, the Western Australian Institute of Sport said Cable was no longer part of their list of esteemed greats.

“The Western Australian Hall of Champions notes the legal judgements recently released regarding one of our inductees, Mr Barry Cable,” chairman David Hatt said.

“As a result of these findings the Hall has decided to withdraw Mr Cable from its membership as of today.”

All eyes will be on when the AFL makes its decision on Cable’s position in the Australian Football Hall of Fame. Cable is ranked as a Legend in the Hall of Fame and that position will also be reviewed.

Vicki
Vicki
June 22, 2023 5:21 pm

The concept is around in Britain IIRR, with “ley lines” with lines drawn between sacred structures. Akin to Bula the monster that comes out of the billabong.
All of them are just scams to get money out of people, preferably governments with lots of dosh.

This is a rare time when I don’t agree with you, Topender.

This may be true of current times when indigenous peoples from many countries have been too many generations from “living” the culture to really understand and “feel” the old beliefs. So, in our time maybe this is true. But it does not disavow the reality of the operation of these practices in prior times.
The “songlines” were a very practical way of teaching small groups how to navigate their way across the land – & especially to water sources, good tucker and shelter.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 22, 2023 5:21 pm

The concept is around in Britain IIRR, with “ley lines” with lines drawn between sacred structures.
Sure, same thing.
I believe many Churches in Scotland were constructed on Ley Lines, going way back.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 22, 2023 5:22 pm

“This dog is a total CHICK MAGNET!”
He looked rather sour at that.

I have heard it said that some chaps borrow a dog for their dating app photos.
Presumably they have a sad back-story for the absent dog should a serious relationship ensue.

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