Open Thread – Weekend 1 July 2023


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July 3, 2023 11:29 am

Feast of Saint Thomas the Apostle – 3rd July

From today’s Gospel – John 20:29 (KJV)

Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 3, 2023 11:31 am

“Daily Mail”

Her lover was shot dead next to her in bed and her boyfriend’s $400,000 Lamborghini torched. Why this unlucky in love hairdresser is now suing the cops for millions

Fatima Hage and gangster lover were in bed when he was executed
Glamorous hairdresser was also arrested and suspected
She now has PTSD and is suing the NSW Police for millions

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 3, 2023 11:36 am

Not in the Laws either, as of 2017:

41.5 Deliberate distraction, deception or obstruction of batter
41.5.1 In addition to 41.4, it is unfair for any fielder wilfully to attempt, by word or action, to distract, deceive or obstruct either batter after the striker has received the ball.
41.5.2 It is for either one of the umpires to decide whether any distraction, deception or obstruction is wilful or not.

This trickery pre-dated 2017 by many years.
And, if your trickery fools the ump as well, all good.
I mean, how many umps are focused on a fielder 30-40 metres from the bat? They are dutifully looking at the batterer for ‘one short’. Without video and DRS, I think it could still work.

Gabor
Gabor
July 3, 2023 11:51 am

Top Ender says:
July 3, 2023 at 10:55 am

Any ideas on where to emigrate to, someplace free from kakistocracy and people telling me what to do.

Rural NSW is good. We are on the edge of a bush reserve at the end of a cul-de-sac. Sometimes it’s so quiet you think everyone on the planet has been spirited away.

TE, do you drive in or back in into your driveway or garage?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 3, 2023 12:04 pm

TE, do you drive in or back in into your driveway or garage?

Is this a coded sexual preference question?

Crossie
Crossie
July 3, 2023 12:08 pm

That was the primary reason I bought BTC originally – its a non seizable, non censorable form of money – like cash, but with the added benefit that it cant be debased by printing. Its value will continue to rise as more people get ‘Faraged’ or ‘Canadian Truckered’,

Flyingduk, I don’t think this will work either. The first thing powers that be will do is outlaw bitcoin so that you will not be able to use it anywhere.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 3, 2023 12:09 pm

TE, do you drive in or back in into your driveway or garage?

Is this a coded sexual preference question?

Is the pineapple on the caravan topside up or inverted?
And dont ask about the left hand/right hand sideways ones.

Chris
Chris
July 3, 2023 12:12 pm

Yeah, nah – regardless of todays ‘wimmin can do anything’ crowd, there is just too much (dare I say it) biological evidence to the contrary. Men are specialised to hunt (they are stronger, faster and have better hand-eye skills (this is why the are better at ball sports, which are really just hunting analogues). Women are better at child rearing (breast feeding, multiasking, reading emotions – vital for caring for small kids).

Question – if wimmin can do anything just as well as men, why dont they?

FMD duk.
As someone evolved to sit on his arse reading the entire internet while his devoted spouse prepares her delicious roasted gatherings for his pleasure, I assert that you have forgotten an important point.
Men’s traditional behavior is not hunting.
Man’s traditional behavior is Idling. Hurry up and wait. Sure out of sheer boredom or the desire for yummies owned by other people he will launch a woman-stealing raid and bag the other bloke’s pigs and cattle while about it; but pretending that we are going hunting is just what we tell the family.

Chris
Chris
July 3, 2023 12:13 pm

And drinking beer.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 3, 2023 12:15 pm

Flyingduk, I don’t think this will work either. The first thing powers that be will do is outlaw bitcoin so that you will not be able to use it anywhere.

Quite so.
To transact BTC you need to use the innernets.
Yes, yes, dark web, secret ID codes yada, yada.
If they really want to, they could turn that tap off in an instant too.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 3, 2023 12:18 pm

multiasking
Yes indeed, mine wife can ask for five different things with a four-word sentence, with no known correct answers possible either.
Multitasking though… gentlemen, let’s be frank, women cannot multitask. It’s a myth of diet-grrrrrl feminazism.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2023 12:18 pm

The first thing powers that be will do is outlaw bitcoin

LOL

They’ve already tried. It’s invincible.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 3, 2023 12:18 pm

blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Just like catastrophic man-made global warming.

Or to take the other positive messianic half of the equation, virtuous are those people who make all sorts of minor sacrifices to save the planet from CMMGW and yet have never seen what effect these sacrifices actually have and also have never understood the scientific evidence and arguments for CMMGW.

Note this applies regardless of whether everything that had been said in support of CMMGW was in fact true or false, because it’s the leap of faith that is being emphasised.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 3, 2023 12:21 pm

Multitasking though… gentlemen, let’s be frank, women cannot multitask. It’s a myth of diet-grrrrrl feminazism.

Harsh, but fair.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
July 3, 2023 12:39 pm

Today in the mail I have received a letter from Tim Watts, Chief of Staff, Office of the Minister for Indigenous Australians. The letterhead is The Hon Linda Burney MP. the start of the letter says “Dear xx, Thank you for taking the time to write – I have been asked to reply on behalf of the Prime Minister, the Hon Anthony Albanese MP.”
My email address is referenced, so it isn’t correct to say that emails are never responded to by the PM at least.
The letter is two pages long, and also enclosed is the Information Booklet “Recognising Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander peoples through a Voice.
Nothing in the letter or booklet changes my mind about the Voice, rather makes me more certain it is a big big mistake.
Has anyone else had a similar response to any correspondence with the PM?
I think I may now ask the PM how I find out what my race is.

Kneel
Kneel
July 3, 2023 12:47 pm

The prosecution and the defense don’t just turn up to trial on Day 1 without having already made documents they are presenting as evidence available to the other party.

In the US, for a criminal case, the prosecution must indeed provide all evidence it has to the defense prior to trial, whether they intent to use it or not.
The defense has no such requirement and can present evidence unavailable to the prosecution before the trial.
Given the state (prosecution) has relatively unlimited resources compared to the defendant, this makes sense.

Real Deal
Real Deal
July 3, 2023 12:48 pm

TE, do you drive in or back in into your driveway or garage?

Is this a coded sexual preference question?

I nearly choked on my sausage roll when I read that.

And yes, phrasing.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 3, 2023 12:53 pm

Kneel recited:

for a criminal case, the prosecution must indeed provide all evidence it has to the defense prior to trial, whether they intent to use it or not.
The defense has no such requirement and can present evidence unavailable to the prosecution before the trial.
Given the state (prosecution) has relatively unlimited resources compared to the defendant, this makes sense.

How about that! A disparity of power is offset by a disparity of information.
It’s almost as though the judicial arm of government already has enshrined a general argument for honouring privacy!

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 3, 2023 12:59 pm

Dalí observation-
The smashy-takey riots in the Anglo-Franco counties seem to only happen-
-in inner cities
-involving dusky youth
-and in the nice midsummer evenings.
Though to be fair to the Frechies, they are all-weather nabobs. Probably why they stretch to a bit of burning too.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 3, 2023 1:00 pm
flyingduk
flyingduk
July 3, 2023 1:08 pm

Hypocrisy central: The government will be exempted from its own law. One rule for them and another for us.

Bit like the Rozzers and mobile phones?

Diogenes
Diogenes
July 3, 2023 1:10 pm

Giving Thailand a go. I think a pretty homogenous society has the best chance.

Lots of the region of peace in the south. If there were nothing keeping me here (Mrs, grandkids etc) I would head for Chang Mai.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 3, 2023 1:13 pm

Flyingduk, I don’t think this will work either. The first thing powers that be will do is outlaw bitcoin so that you will not be able to use it anywhere.

What, like outlawing theft, speeding, touching your phone while driving, meth, ganja, hate speech, misgendering, wrongthink??

Link below to bridge I have for sale, cheap….

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 3, 2023 1:15 pm

Men’s traditional behavior is not hunting. Man’s traditional behavior is Idling.

Quite, but idling 23 of the days 24h is a key part of huntibg : Exhibit A, the king of beasts, the lion.

Chris
Chris
July 3, 2023 1:18 pm

Absolutely right duk, that example was strong in my mind.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 3, 2023 1:21 pm

To transact BTC you need to use the innernets.Yes, yes, dark web, secret ID codes yada, yada.
If they really want to, they could turn that tap off in an instant too.

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Which, given the near total reliance of food, transport, energy, military, health, financial and comms systems upon it, would kill millions almost immediately, and hundreds of millions – if not billions, over the next year or 2.

If they switch off the net, you have bigger problems to deal with than what happened to your BTC…. and so do they.

Chris
Chris
July 3, 2023 1:25 pm

In honor of the new firearm law offensive in WA, and the revealed bastardry of duk’s mistreatment, I am considering how a citizen survives as an enemy of the State.
Arms are not my starting point. I am creative.
Money is where to start; how to make a living and step aside from defenestration by the banking system.
I am thinking PNG/Solomons as a model for ‘adjusting power imbalances’. That is, be part of a clan, and count injuries to the clan member as to ones own person.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 3, 2023 1:32 pm

In the US, for a criminal case, the prosecution must indeed provide all evidence it has to the defense prior to trial, whether they intent to use it or not.
The defense has no such requirement and can present evidence unavailable to the prosecution before the trial.
Given the state (prosecution) has relatively unlimited resources compared to the defendant, this makes sense.

Quite … the AFPs ignorance of the fact that I had them on vid, admitting I did not commit the crime proved a rather potent foil to their 3 professional witnesses (AFP Officers) who recalled detailed accounts of how I did.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 3, 2023 1:35 pm

I am considering how a citizen survives as an enemy of the State.
Arms are not my starting point. I am creative.
Money is where to start; how to make a living and step aside from defenestration by the banking system.

I came to this conclusion in 2014 after my last trip to the ‘Gan ….. I told my children I would be an enemy of the state within their lifetime, and I told others to buy ‘guns, gold n bitcoin’

And ….. here we are…

Jorge
Jorge
July 3, 2023 1:37 pm

Overnight, this country’s reputation for fair play was besmirched.

Fortunately, the old buffers at Lords care deeply about how we vote (according to Marcia) and our international standing will soon be restored. Phew.

johanna
johanna
July 3, 2023 1:45 pm

Well, well, a lot of ape-like breast-beating about the primacy of males in hunter/gatherer cultures.

Here’s the thing. Each would have starved without the other.

And yes, Chris is right that in traditional cultures, the men mostly lounge around while the women do the work. Go to Africa, where the women look after the kids, tend the gardens and the animals, carry the water, while the men sit in the shade and drink beer or whatever the local hooch is.

Now and then, the fellas go out on a hunting party and hopefully bring something edible back.

As for women hunting, it is true that they were not much use for big game. But (in Australia) the lizards, bandicoots and suchlike were a very welcome addition to the diet.

Applying modern overlays to tribal cultures is unhelpful and misleading.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 3, 2023 2:05 pm

Gathering has never impressed your mates at the pub. Neolithic farming too.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 3, 2023 2:05 pm

Applying modern overlays to tribal cultures is unhelpful and misleading.

I suppose part of the differences would be the relative dangerousness of bigger game plus how far along the settled/ domesticated route they were.

From what Ive seen in remote WA its a family affair for animals.
One memory was of about 6 echidnas stung out along the bull bar of a landcruiser with a few dead kangas on the roofrack. Can filled with about 15 people..

Cassie of Sydney
July 3, 2023 2:06 pm

“johanna says:
July 3, 2023 at 1:45 pm”

Quite so.

johanna
johanna
July 3, 2023 2:07 pm

Oh, and Duk, lionesses are part of the hunting party.

On another note, I see that people are looking for Nirvana on earth that is better than Australia.

Someone mentioned Morocco. Well, if you don’t mind being surrounded by female letterboxes, half starved donkeys, garbage and stinking drains – it’s for you.

I agree that parts of the US are very attractive, but there are some obstacles. For example, the food sold in supermarkets is awful. Everything is laced with copious amounts of sugar. Ordinary bread is like cake. Decent bread costs a premium. The bacon is mostly fat, you have to buy ‘Canadian bacon’ to get something with a bit of meat in it.

The prices on the restaurant menu are just a guide. At the till, they add State taxes, plus you are meant to leave a tip.

I know I’ve focused on food, but it comes up every day.

Also, the TSA jerks at airports are horrible.

On the plus side. there is every kind of natural beauty that you can imagine, most Americans are polite and courteous (I exclude ghetto areas and cities), and you can find a community that shares your values for sure.

Forget the UK, it’s stuffed.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 3, 2023 2:08 pm

Media reports of an unsafe U turn at Daggles place. More to come.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 3, 2023 2:21 pm

Leaving Australia seeking paradise? Think Uruguay, although reports are mixed.

eric hinton
eric hinton
July 3, 2023 2:24 pm

Landcruiser[snip] filled with about 15 people.

Valiants are so passe.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 3, 2023 2:25 pm

I know people who live in rural France.
After a week of shennanigans in the cities their lives haven’t skipped a beat.
That’s why they live in the country.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 3, 2023 2:25 pm

TE, do you drive in or back in into your driveway or garage?

I leave that to my man Bradford. It’s the only freedom he has.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
July 3, 2023 2:30 pm

Overnight, this country’s reputation for fair play was besmirched.

“SandpaperGate” had already done that.

Chris
Chris
July 3, 2023 2:36 pm

Valiants are so passe.

Valiants were in comparatively a proud time, when a yurta yurta man would buy a car with his own earnings or dole payments, not by sticking a blood funnel into the arteries of civil society.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 3, 2023 2:40 pm

Which, given the near total reliance of food, transport, energy, military, health, financial and comms systems upon it, would kill millions almost immediately, and hundreds of millions – if not billions, over the next year or 2.

If they switch off the net, you have bigger problems to deal with than what happened to your BTC…. and so do they.

Who said “switch off the internet”.
A selective denial of service would be relatively easy to implement.

johanna
johanna
July 3, 2023 2:45 pm

Heh, I know where TopEnder lives, and it’s not exactly ‘rural.’ It is on the border between Canberra and Queanbeyan.

He is quite right about what a great place it is to live in terms of natural beauty and critters. But, it is also in spitting distance of plenty of GPs, three public and a couple of private hospitals, prosperous specialists, plenty of dentists and orthodontists, and a couple of universities.

Walgett, it ain’t.

That’s one of the main reasons I live here. 🙂

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 3, 2023 2:51 pm

I wonder what the ceiling here is, town-wise? At what point does the size of population become sub-optimal? 50K? 100K? Is it dependent on the distance from some large city?

They live in a town of less than 1000 people, 2 hours train from Paris.
I think there’s a matrix of distance from a major centre & size of town.

johanna
johanna
July 3, 2023 2:57 pm

feelthebern says:
July 3, 2023 at 2:25 pm

I know people who live in rural France.
After a week of shennanigans in the cities their lives haven’t skipped a beat.
That’s why they live in the country.

All good until they try to replace the C19th bathroom and fix the crumbling facade.

Then they are in for a long time world of pain.

Oh, and don’t diss the Vals. My sister had a rusty old station wagon when she was first married (in the 80s), and even as it fell apart around her, it started first time, every time.

Maybe that’s why impecunious young chaps of a slightly darker tint bought them and hung boldly coloured dice off the rear vision mirror.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 3, 2023 3:00 pm

This business at Lords is quite unseemly. Although you must ask what a Muslim was doing in the Long Room in the first place.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 3, 2023 3:02 pm

A fairly clever explanation of where we are now.
Worth a RTWT
https://www.city-journal.org/article/change-merchants
This is not a new observation. As the writer Kevin Phillips noted in Mediacracy in 1975:

Change does not threaten the affluent intelligentsia of the Post-Industrial Society the way it threatened the landowners and industrialists of the New Deal. On the contrary, change is as essential to the knowledge sector as inventory turnover is to a merchant or manufacturer. Change keeps up demand for the product (research, news, theory, and technology). Post-Industrialism, a knowledge elite, and accelerated social change appear to go hand in hand.

In effect we are overproducing people whos expertise means if they say “this is fine and doesnt need to change” they will starve.
Instead we have set up whole battalions of people whos job it is, is to raise petty discontents to the level of existential crisis’ so they can “fix” them.

Childcare was a minor problem until the battalions of the red witch “proved” that it was early childhood education and needed to become a uni credentialled job.
result: Now its a crisis that thousands of parasite class propose new studies and fixes for the foreseeable future.
Similar with the NDIS – there was a case to be made for targeted assistance, instead its been turned into a experts omnishambles, where thousands of “experts” have a sinecure for life proposing changes.

Nearly every area (defense, Im really looking at you) where they pay for experts to make the case for change, the case is made, but the outcomes generate a self perpetuating class of people agitating for more change.

eric hinton
eric hinton
July 3, 2023 3:10 pm

Indeed, Chris.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 3, 2023 3:10 pm

 H B Bear says:

July 3, 2023 at 3:00 pm

This business at Lords is quite unseemly. Although you must ask what a Muslim was doing in the Long Room in the first place.

And that houso chap who, if not for crickit, would be re-birthing Sporty Beemers in a shed out West.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 3, 2023 3:11 pm

I will take the ‘women are hunters too’ thing seriously the exact instant someone can point out the last woman to kill a mammoth.

Or a bison.
Or a sabre-toothed tiger.
Or a fully-grown feral pig, wolf, buffalo or bull.

Everyone wants to be a wolf, until it’s time to do wolf shit.

– John Lennon

johanna
johanna
July 3, 2023 3:12 pm

Surely the broader issue is that for many self-important people wanting to make their mark, ‘change’ = ‘progress.’

How many so-called conservatives are actively challenging that puerile notion?

Speedbox
July 3, 2023 3:14 pm

dover0beach says:
July 3, 2023 at 2:47 pm

IMO probably around 50-70k. Big enough to have most city features such as a hospital, supermarkets or markets generally, financially viable for a reasonable number of other stores and assorted municipal features as the ratepayer base is adequate. Big enough that everybody doesn’t know everybody else’s business and local crime (hopefully) will be low enough to allow the police not to be overzealous in policing the entire population.

Lysander
Lysander
July 3, 2023 3:15 pm

New Brennan article on Pell out:

https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2023/07/cardinal-pell-at-the-hands-of-the-victorian-justice-system/

There’s a principle being flown around various legal academic circles (I think its called the Hamer Principle) which argues that if “J” had stuck to his initial vague “abused on a Thursday night” story instead of his story which (strangely garnered more detail as the months progressed) put the abuse at Sunday mass, Pell would have died in gaol.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 3, 2023 3:22 pm

johanna says:
July 3, 2023 at 3:12 pm

Thats probably correct at the pointy politicians/ movers and shakers end. But behind them are thousands of “experts” suddenly discovering that basic kindy was wrong, and all women really wanted to send their kids off to germ farms while they cubicle slaved.

Speaking tangentially on this.
Heres the “lady” who came up with the Bechdel test for if wimmins was represented in cinema offerings.
Take a look at her pic, and tell me her life choices werent in part cruelled by her physiognomy.

Why is she an expert apart from being a grievance monger?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 3, 2023 3:25 pm

Everyone wants to be a wolf, until it’s time to do wolf shit.

– John Lennon

Pretty sure that was Sun Tzu.

johanna
johanna
July 3, 2023 3:27 pm

Oh, piss off with the sabre toothed tiger shctick, like it was an everyday occurence.
Gotta be getting desperate. Romantic bullshit.

Much more important is Mole’s comment and link. The people who are making these decisions are not the people who experience the consequences of them.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 3, 2023 3:32 pm

Or to use a basic example.

Who knew plastic straws were a major environmental issue until hundreds/thousands of “experts” decided they were?
Those people havent gone away, there still a steady stream of them whos livelihoods depend upon counting plastic straws in rubbish.
I note disposable nappies are very much a bridge too far for them, though there have been a couple of forays into the area.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 3, 2023 3:33 pm

This might interest some:

We now have a National Emergency Medal, which when it was issued in 2011 was immediately made retrospective to cover several significant disasters. But not Cyclone Tracy, the Australian national emergency which involved the largest number of personnel outside wartime ever. Why not?

Link to my article

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
July 3, 2023 3:34 pm

Childcare was a minor problem until the battalions of the red witch “proved” that it was early childhood education and needed to become a uni credentialled job.
result: Now its a crisis that thousands of parasite class propose new studies and fixes for the foreseeable future.
Similar with the NDIS – there was a case to be made for targeted assistance, instead its been turned into a experts omnishambles, where thousands of “experts” have a sinecure for life proposing changes.

NDIS is a whole nother level of shambles, where there is the ability to charge all kinds of ‘services’ as part of ‘assistance’ for example, trips to the brothel or help with writing a thesis or article from an abled bodied person who then produces work from the lived experience of said disabled person, all sorts of other ‘self actualisation’ expenses that have nothing much to do with getting by.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 3, 2023 3:35 pm

Overnight, this country’s reputation for fair play was besmirched.
Don’t follow the tennis, Jorge?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 3, 2023 3:41 pm

Djokovic is on a Wimbledon grass court at 8:30 tonight. After a long life of Aussie Rules and criggit, this is the only sport I care about now. Nole is seven matches away from only being one title away from a grand slam, that is, if Schwab’s U.S. allow him in.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 3, 2023 3:42 pm

NDIS should have offered (for a start) 2 weeks fully paid respite care.
This would be in recognition 90% of the work of caring for those severely disabled falls on relatives who genuinely need help.

Past that case by case “grants’ for the carers to administer for the patients benefit.

Remember the “experts” touting it as paying for itself in increased productivity?
They are still employed agitating for further ‘improvements’.

There are people here who are in the difficult situation of being a carer so I wont presume to know a lot about it. The current omnishambles seems designed to funnel a lot of money at certain businesses.

Chris
Chris
July 3, 2023 3:54 pm

There are people here who are in the difficult situation of being a carer so I wont presume to know a lot about it. The current omnishambles seems designed to funnel a lot of money at certain businesses.

Personally, I think it was specifically intended to mine Australia’s harbours before surrendering to the elected new Government.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 3, 2023 3:54 pm

Frollicking, the fact that Sleazy and Shorten have slammed the door shut on said brothel visits and various other grey areas tells you they are not serious on reigning in the beast. Get the furious backlash but sooner or later someone has to do it and if the NDIS is Billy’s “little baby” so to speak then who better to do it. End of the day only Labor will get away with reform.

Otherwise all their talk about cost over runs and blowouts is just that, talk…

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 3, 2023 3:59 pm

I’ve been working from home this afternoon.
I’ve got Series 3 of Jack Ryan in the background.
It’s occupying about 5% of my brain power.
Some terrible writing.
Murder She Wrote & Ally McBeal had better plots.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
July 3, 2023 4:01 pm

I am in Munich for a few days with work. It is sehr gross. Lovely city. Parts remind me of Canberra only woker. A local work colleague (originally Sth African) commented: the Munich youngsters are so controlled. Even their dogs dont bark. Anyway despite my headache this morning can recommend the beer.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 3, 2023 4:06 pm

Read the VERY unusual and fiery essay Voice architect wrote slamming the ‘No’ side: ‘They are led by a group of shadows…salivating with hunger’

Thomas Mayo penned a fiery essay supporting the Voice
He described the heads of the No campaign as ‘shadows’

Thomas Mayo – Ranting Commo – strkes again…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 3, 2023 4:07 pm

How can this be, the experts (still employed) predicted it would top out at 500,000 people all up…

With about 200 people joining the scheme every day, the NDIS is likely to have breached its 2022-23 financial year forecast of 592,294 participants in the first week of April.

And another “expert” prediction…
15 May 2023 — As the NDIS grows, more workers are needed to support people with disability. About 128,000 more workers are likely to be needed by June 2025.

Tom
Tom
July 3, 2023 4:10 pm

Liberty quote:

Munich youngsters are so controlled, even their dogs don’t bark.

— Fair Shake.

Lysander
Lysander
July 3, 2023 4:15 pm

Last night I thought I got booted off twitter so I put out a post: “Can anyone see this?”

So far, 220 likes (and yes my twitter is working).

But how annoying that I’ve had much better tweets than that, that get like 1, 2 maybe 3 likes…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 3, 2023 4:17 pm

Munich youngsters are so controlled, even their dogs don’t bark.

They saw what happened the last time one got out of line..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa5CNf7pMAM

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
July 3, 2023 4:21 pm

thefrollickingmole says:
July 3, 2023 at 4:07 pm
How can this be, the experts (still employed) predicted it would top out at 500,000 people all up…

With about 200 people joining the scheme every day, the NDIS is likely to have breached its 2022-23 financial year forecast of 592,294 participants in the first week of April.

How come there are so many Disabled people in this country. Surely this has to be a rort on the NDIS. BTW. Is Head Case and MontyPox Virus included in these numbers?

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
July 3, 2023 4:25 pm

One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got into my pajamas I’ll never know.

– Groucho Marx

cohenite
July 3, 2023 4:33 pm

In other news, the creep shot by the gendarmes in France which sent the muzzies into their usual froth turns out to be a gangbanger with a rap sheet a mile long, or whatever measure they use in frogland. The gendarme who shot the POS has still been charged with murder.

End of times.

rickw
rickw
July 3, 2023 4:36 pm

Lots of the region of peace in the south. If there were nothing keeping me here (Mrs, grandkids etc) I would head for Chang Mai.

That’s the location I’ve selected.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
July 3, 2023 4:37 pm

Ironically, we can see the direction of the Canadian model will become the standard. Lure people into thinking there is free money via NDIS, then when the system starts to fall over coerce the high-cost people with ‘no prospects’ into MAID. By then it will be just like the fate of the brown shirts, too late to back out and the state makes you into a lampshade while popping your children into Ceausescu style child abuse.

Lysander
Lysander
July 3, 2023 4:40 pm

So I’ve seen one site suggesting all Trump voters write his name in so not computerised. Forces hand count.

A bit far fetched IMHO…

rickw
rickw
July 3, 2023 4:41 pm

How come there are so many Disabled people in this country.

Based on the state of Australia, I tend to think the number on NDIS is pretty accurate.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 3, 2023 4:44 pm

Question from their ABCcess…

We keep adding lanes. But congestion seems to get worse

To my surprise the answer wasnt “stop importing 500,000 people a year and cramming them into capital cities”.

its up to the “experts” of the grattan tax hoovers to suggest!
FEES
Fees for those who use the M1 in peak periods could ease congestion, according to Grattan Institute transport and cities program director Marion Terrill.

rosie
rosie
July 3, 2023 4:45 pm

stuck to his initial vague “abused on a Thursday night”

Possibly Lysander.
I think J was of the belief that Cardinal Pell lived at the cathedral and wanted to tie that in to him and his mate being abused in cathedral back rooms after choir practice but in discovering he didn’t actualy live there pinned his hopes to after mass, because then Cardinal Pell would definitely be there.

Lysander
Lysander
July 3, 2023 4:47 pm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-03/why-keep-spending-billions-on-motorways-m1-commute/102293384

Well, in Perth its because (say the Freeway), they upgrade it by adding one lane which takes months. A few years later they upgrade it by adding another lane. Rinse and repeat…

Perth Southern Freeway has been adding one lane per every four years for the last 15 years. Why not just add four UP FRONT!

Lysander
Lysander
July 3, 2023 4:52 pm

Which miscarriage of justice undone by the High Court in Australia’s history would you consider the worst? Surely its between Pell, Mallard and Chamberlain?

And in the cases of Mallard and Chamberlain, numerous Inquiries followed…

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 3, 2023 4:56 pm

How come there are so many Disabled people in this country.

‘Show me the incentive and I’ll show you the outcome’

Lavrenty Beria… also attributed to Sun Tzu and Charlie Munger

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 3, 2023 4:57 pm

its up to the “experts” of the grattan tax hoovers to suggest!
FEES

They will doubtless call it a ‘marketplace solution’ like when Gillard brought in the CO2 tax.

amortiser
amortiser
July 3, 2023 5:13 pm

55 years ago, under the Holt Liberal government, that 90.77 per cent of Australians voted to remove race from the constitution, putting ‘indigenous’ Australian people on the same legal footing as all other Australians and allowing them to be counted in the Australian population.

The 1967 referendum did not remove race from the Constitution. It amended s51(xxvi) which stated:
Enables the Commonwealth to make laws for the peace, order and good government of the Commonwealth with respect to the people of any race for whom it is deemed necessary to make special laws except the Aboriginal race.

The referendum removed “except the Aboriginal race”.
The race power is still preserved in the constitution.

Jorge
Jorge
July 3, 2023 5:19 pm

Anyway despite my headache this morning can recommend the beer.

Hair of the dog. Sympathies.

And keep down the Horst Wessel. Soft crooning only permitted.

Speedbox
July 3, 2023 5:24 pm

Lysander says:
July 3, 2023 at 4:47 pm

Phooey. I can top that. In Adelaide around 1995 the Government decided that a new Expressway was needed to service the growing southern suburbs of the city. And lo, the Southern Expressway was conceived.

The government proposed to utilise huge tracts of land and some compulsorily acquisition was required for more. Construction began and after a few years the Transport Minister unveiled “the world’s first fully reversible road!”. What?

Yep, the 3-4 lane freeway would allow traffic to travel in one direction for 10 hours per day and then pause for 2 hours before allowing traffic to travel in the opposite direction. Except on weekends when a different schedule applied.

We the people said there was a reason fully reversible roads were nowhere else in the world – it’s a stupid idea. Anyway, the government had spent about $100m (which was a lot at the time) and sold off the surplus land to partially recover the cost.

Then, about a decade later the government admitted defeat and decided the Expressway should be duplicated so…… set about re-purchasing the land that had been sold off and compulsorily acquire the shortfall.

All up, the duplication cost another $400m meaning somewhere around $500m in total for the project. Then, in leaked documents, it was revealed that the cost to build dual 4 lane expressways over the period from about 1998-2004 had been costed at about $225-250m and had been the recommended option. But no, the government knew better and ultimately, the taxpayers of Adelaide coughed up an extra $250m for no good reason.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 3, 2023 5:27 pm

Daily Mail.

Israel launches major military operation in West Bank with at least three Palestinians killed in drone strikes as hundreds of troops march into Jenin

At least three people were killed in the drone strikes with another 13 injured
Incursion resembles major operation carried out in second Palestinian uprising

Listen Mo, when will you learn? These Joos don’t fvck about!

Roger
Roger
July 3, 2023 5:28 pm

I wonder what the ceiling here is, town-wise? At what point does the size of population become sub-optimal? 50K? 100K? Is it dependent on the distance from some large city?

Other factors too, I would think. Demography, economics, local civic ethos, for example.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
July 3, 2023 5:33 pm

Hair of the dog. Sympathies.

And keep down the Horst Wessel. Soft crooning only permitted.

Stop whining, have a pint of Pilsener and crank up Rammstein, really loud, Pussy.

Lysander
Lysander
July 3, 2023 5:36 pm

So under Albo’s misinformation bill ACMA will be able to fine Dover (and yourself) for posting misinformation here.

Up to $500K!!!

(This is not misinformation)

Roger
Roger
July 3, 2023 5:44 pm

Looks like Mr. 32%, doing his union masters’ bidding, is set to crack down on 250 000+ independent tradies later this year with a move to expand “gig economy” fair work laws into the conmstruction sector, despite Tony Burka’s earlier insistence that wouldn’t happen.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
July 3, 2023 5:55 pm
Tom
Tom
July 3, 2023 5:59 pm

A Greens government representing rich inner-city property owners would be less damaging to the Australian national interest than a trade union government that no longer represents the working class.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 3, 2023 6:00 pm

1 hour ago
Linda Reynolds to refer Higgins to NACC
Jenna Clarke
Jenna Clarke

Former defence minister Linda Reynolds is preparing a submission for the new National Anti-Corruption Commission regarding her former employee Brittany Higgins.

Senator Reynolds on Monday said: “I am working on the referral with my lawyer and will be submitting it early this month.”

The submission will reportedly focus on the confidential settlement between the Commonwealth and the former Liberal staffer who alleged she was sexually assaulted by a colleague in Senator Reynolds’ ministerial suite.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 3, 2023 6:00 pm

Series 3 Jack Ryan. Russians & misinformation.
Just awful.

eric hinton
eric hinton
July 3, 2023 6:02 pm

I propose that the pidgin English that evolves to circumvent Albo’s misinformation bill be called Albanese.

bons
bons
July 3, 2023 6:03 pm

Interesting night on Saturday night. About 9pm madam’s apparent stomach cramps led to her screaming. Not a situation that I am in any way qualified to cope with.
Ambulance didn’t come. Just as I decided to take her myself a paramedic called asking if I could take her in.
That was pretty much the end of the bad stuff. They took a CT and sent it off for interpretation (we are bushies). The results arrived at 4am by which time I was bouncing off walls and my lady was floating in morphine.
Ambulance at 5:30 to the big regional hospital, immediate surgery and a very proud and enthusiastic young surgeon lady debriefing me by 10:00, on a Sunday morning!
Good takes – 1. Staff at all levels were outstanding. 2. Wives are tough folks.
Bad takes – 1. Puzzleduk’s disgusting ambulance service. 2. Get some decent chairs. My toots is unlikely to recover.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 3, 2023 6:06 pm

Reading “the Anarchy” by William Dalrymple, about the east India company/India around that time.

Holy crap was it a bad place to be. Between the collapse of the Mughals, various warring ethnic and religious groups and the Poms out to grab as much as they could (while fighting the french there as well) whole states were demolished.

reading where on Mughal king raised the child of a defeated foe. Problem being kid has come back 20 years later with a new army. Its not going well for said king, or indeed, any of his family as ex-kid seems to hold a grudge.

Blindings, rapings, starvings, beatings to death etc, etc..

Plus the Afghans and others all revolting as well.
oh, and a 3 year monsoon failure and famine.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 3, 2023 6:09 pm

Roger says:
July 3, 2023 at 5:44 pm
Looks like Mr. 32%, doing his union masters’ bidding, is set to crack down on 250 000+ independent tradies later this year with a move to expand “gig economy” fair work laws into the conmstruction sector, despite Tony Burka’s earlier insistence that wouldn’t happen.

Hmmmm. Way back in 2007, the MSM (I know, I know) partly attributed Howard’s defeat to what they called “ute men”, tradies unhappy with the government who switched sides. It seems that Labor will continue on its path of alienating any working-class members who do not wish to become puppets of the CMMFEU.

Labir is gradually shrinking its core constituency to three partially incompatible groups. The soft Slime, who hate construction, mining, transport and energy; the unionised workforce, split between public sector/academia on one side and construction, mining, transport and energy workers on the other; and welfare queens.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 3, 2023 6:11 pm

Ambulance didn’t come. Just as I decided to take her myself a paramedic called asking if I could take her in.

If an ambo is unavailable lways drive yourself unless its possible there will be CPR needed.
If theres possible CPR needed (chest pains) then get a second person who knows how to give it and get the 000 to stay on the line while you are driving (if possible) with updates of locations in case you can hand over to ambos 1/2 way.

If your ambo service is functional disregard this advice.
Hospital care is DEFINITIVE care, ambos are there to buy time, not fix you.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 3, 2023 6:14 pm

oh, and a 3 year monsoon failure and famine.
Whitey bought the climate change
…along with smallpox saris

Chris
Chris
July 3, 2023 6:14 pm

Labir is gradually shrinking its core constituency

All hands to the till!

Roger
Roger
July 3, 2023 6:17 pm

Labir is gradually shrinking its core constituency

Public service cuts in Danistan?

Razey
Razey
July 3, 2023 6:20 pm

Puzzleduk’s disgusting ambulance service

When I was really crook, we took to just the misus driving me to a private emergency dept. Hunchback’s ambulances wouldn’t have come anyway.

Roger
Roger
July 3, 2023 6:20 pm

It seems that Labor will continue on its path of alienating any working-class members who do not wish to become puppets of the CMMFEU.

The CFMMEU is splitting and the miners can’t be relied upon to vote Labor (cf. regional QLD in 2019).

Tom
Tom
July 3, 2023 6:22 pm

Public service cuts in Danistan?

The problem in Victoria is that most public servants (I would guess 70-80%) vote for the Greens, so everything the Andrews regime does to appease the Greens is slowly cutting its own throat.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 3, 2023 6:27 pm

And the Slime and major elements of the CFMMEU (as just one example) are completley incompatible politically.

Fight you bastards, fight!

Roger
Roger
July 3, 2023 6:37 pm

The problem in Victoria is that most public servants (I would guess 70-80%) vote for the Greens, so everything the Andrews regime does to appease the Greens is slowly cutting its own throat.

QPS more Labor, but Palaszczuk facing similar challenges in Brisbane. Meanwhile, mining royalties keep Treasury in the black.

P
P
July 3, 2023 6:39 pm

Cross removed from Calvary as ACT Govt executes hospital takeover
By Marilyn Rodrigues – July 3, 2023

A very moving piece.

Indolent
Indolent
July 3, 2023 6:40 pm
rosie
rosie
July 3, 2023 6:41 pm

I’m reading a very interesting book about Italian antiquity thieves and it mentions that a well known dealer had a property attached to a protected archaeological area, so on advice from archaeologists the Italian government compulsorily acquired it.
Another bunch of temple robbers got caught because they tunnelled under a road, and the road collapsed.
Most venal of all was a certain famous US art museum who didn’t care to check provenance if they wanted items.
Certainly encouraging me to visit more famous places in Italy.

Indolent
Indolent
July 3, 2023 6:43 pm
Indolent
Indolent
July 3, 2023 6:49 pm
Tom
Tom
July 3, 2023 6:50 pm

Meanwhile, mining royalties keep Treasury in the black.

I’m curious about how long it will take for progressives to concede that “climate change” is a religious anti-scientific cult invented by animists who are the modern version of the Aztecs.

Indolent
Indolent
July 3, 2023 6:52 pm
Indolent
Indolent
July 3, 2023 6:53 pm
Indolent
Indolent
July 3, 2023 6:55 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2023 6:56 pm

Why ‘however ‘ Lizzie?

Sorry, Rosie, just a segue, more to elaborate on Vicki’s point than yours by notifying of my colleague Margaret MacArthur’s academic research, which was very good, not the stuff of today’s ‘feminist researchers’. As you say, you have often recognised that women did a lot of the work in aboriginal tribal situations.

I made the point that women had it very tough in the primitive world, and that the men often did very little, which has also surfaced here again later today.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 3, 2023 6:59 pm

Wonder if the NACC will release a Top 10? Would make an interesting read.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2023 6:59 pm

Today I have finished with Gildas.

Such a relief. lol.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2023 7:04 pm

We’ve finished watching the TV series War Gamers, about the WW2 submarine tactics and the work done by the WRENS and their male commander. It didn’t go all wonky feminist at the end, thank goodness. It rightly pointed out that the women got no recognition although their commander did, and accepted that women at that time just got in, did the job, and didn’t expect accolades. By today’s standards they were poorly treated, but it was all viewed through the lens of their times. A show I enjoyed.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2023 7:08 pm

We need rough men though, as a society, for protection. There’s a good article on that in this week’s Speccie, covering how Obama’s army personnel were way beyond legal, as were some WW2 ones, and commenting how in Australia we have dudded out our brave men who work in difficult theatres of war. War is war. Illustration of it makes the front page.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2023 7:09 pm

Speccie is always good for a read in the bath.
Or anywhere really.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 3, 2023 7:12 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says: July 3, 2023 at 6:59 pm

Today I have finished with Gildas.

Such a relief. lol.

PHRASING

Roger
Roger
July 3, 2023 7:25 pm

I’m curious about how long it will take for progressives to concede that “climate change” is a religious anti-scientific cult invented by animists who are the modern version of the Aztecs.

Climate change has long since become a corporate investor scam to access public funds with progessives being its useful idiot promoters (look into the background of Thunberg’s promoters).

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2023 7:28 pm

In this way were all the settlements brought low with the frequent shocks of the battering rams; the inhabitants, along with the bishops of the church, both priests and people , whilst swords gleamed on every side and flames crackled, were together mown down to the ground, and sad sight, there were seen in the midst of streets, the bottom stones of towers with tall beam cast down, and of high walls, sacred altars, fragments of bodies covered with clots, as if coagulated, of red blood, in confusions as in a kind of horrible wine press: there was no sepulchre of any kind save the ruins of houses, or the entrails of wild beasts and birds in the open, I say it with reverence to their holy souls (if in fact there were many to be found holy).”

Thought yous all might like to know. This is good old post-Roman Gildas, a born writer clearly enjoying his drama, drumming up some support for his Jeremiad. For good reason, I do not believe this is a reference to a Saxon invasion of Britain, although it is usually taken that way.

His account tells of the same sort of thing that is going in in Africa even now. Sporadic raiding by zealots of various sorts, resulting in killing fields and general social dislocation until protections against them begin.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 3, 2023 7:30 pm

Razey says:

July 3, 2023 at 6:20 pm

Puzzleduk’s disgusting ambulance service

When I was really crook, we took to just the misus driving me to a private emergency dept. Hunchback’s ambulances wouldn’t have come anyway.

To be fair, it’s a long drive to Nagasaki.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2023 7:30 pm

lol, Colonel Crisp. Very snappy on the uptake there. Not what I meant at all.

Simply meant G & T time!!

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
July 3, 2023 7:32 pm

We’ve finished watching the TV series War Gamers, about the WW2 submarine tactics and the work done by the WRENS and their male commander

I have just pulled up some previews on YouTube, i am on to this, many thanks.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
July 3, 2023 7:33 pm

PS – Thanks Lizzie

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2023 7:33 pm

Definitely not heading for anything that’s been in a wine press. Not until the G & T kicks in anyway.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 3, 2023 7:42 pm

Lizzie

It rightly pointed out that the women got no recognition although their commander did, and accepted that women at that time just got in, did the job, and didn’t expect accolades. By today’s standards they were poorly treated, but it was all viewed through the lens of their times. A show I enjoyed.

Most junior ranks in past (and also recent) wars got little recognition, unless they performed some act of spectacular bravery. It’s the old conundrum, if everyone gets a gong, what is the value of each of the gongs?

Yes, the WRENs worked long hours under great stress, but so did many others who received no formal recognition. Just having been a staff member of the Submarine Tracking Room was a distinction in itself. Certainly the crews of the escorts and the merchant ships would have valued them, without ever having met them.

Marty
July 3, 2023 7:44 pm

Lizzie – who do you think Gildas was referring to if it wasn’t the Anglo-Saxons. This bit was often used to support the total replacement theory of the AS takeover of lowland England.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 3, 2023 7:46 pm

To be fair, it’s a long drive to Nagasaki.

People have died waiting for a train from the Gold Coast.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 3, 2023 7:50 pm

who do you think Gildas was referring to if it wasn’t the Anglo-Saxons

Gildas. The Bruce Pascoe of his time.

I say this as an engineer.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2023 7:53 pm

who do you think Gildas was referring to if it wasn’t the Anglo-Saxons

Other Welsh who were not properly Christian. It was a spiritual polemic.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 3, 2023 8:10 pm

Gildas was a flamer.

Marty
July 3, 2023 8:14 pm

Other Welsh who were not properly Christian. It was a spiritual polemic.

For his polemic to be effective there would have had to been agreed background facts, British infighting or AS incursions.

shatterzzz
July 3, 2023 8:16 pm

Looks like the media is fully behind VOICE propaganda with several assorted stories a day involving 251s .. stuff that wouldn’t make the news if the folk were white .. a 251 claiming discrimination cos she was re-arrested for breaking bail conditions even tho when you read it she was .. lawyer claims they didn’t take her current mental condition into consideration before arrest ..
another.. the 251 died after being sent home from hospital diagnosed high on drugs .. family claiming it weren’t drugs but cos he was 251 .. then say but he only use doccasionally .. FFS!

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2023 8:17 pm

For his polemic to be effective there would have had to been agreed background facts, British infighting or AS incursions.

Maybe it wasn’t effective.

Marty
July 3, 2023 8:25 pm

…Maybe it wasn’t effective I agree. The British/Welsh may have started behaving better but they never really got their act together.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2023 8:28 pm

Marty, do you believe mandates from heaven are a legitimate political theory?

Marty
July 3, 2023 8:36 pm

Marty, do you believe mandates from heaven are a legitimate political theory?.

Don’t know really.Is that like Manifest Destiny and “Praise the Lord and pass the anumition”?

Marty
July 3, 2023 8:41 pm

ammunition

Bruce in WA
July 3, 2023 8:43 pm

Women as hunters?

Even now there are some; OK, a few.

Melissa Bachman is one such. The fact that she’s drop dead gorgeous and has a body to die for doesn’t hurt one little bit.

As an aside: I have known about her for years and followed and researched her exploits (and NOT in a creepy way!). She’s the real deal.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 3, 2023 8:49 pm

Is that really … is that you … Marty?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 3, 2023 8:54 pm

Are the Baltimore shooters still white MAGA NRA members with connections to neo-Nazi groups?

Or has some actual information leaked out?

I heard the number wounded is as high as 30, as well as the two dead.

What motivation can there be to shoot up a 4 July block party? Not exactly a gang haunt.

Marty
July 3, 2023 8:55 pm

Huh? I am a lurker who was tempted out by talk of Gildas.

Cassie of Sydney
July 3, 2023 9:04 pm

“Katie Hopkins: All the noise around Farage; Fox, GB News…..let me share what really matters.”

For the last seven years, various people deemed unsavoury and far-right by progressives and others have been publicly smeared as vile Nazis, routinely ridiculed, kicked of Facebook, Twitter and almost all other social media platforms, denounced, howled down, sacked from jobs, denied employment opportunities, dobbed into police, been knocked on the door by police, doxed, physically attacked, and have been the subject of a whole host of other punitive actions by activists and the progressive political and media class. I could go on, you get the drift. Here are some of their names, Milo, Gavin, Avi, Laura, Tommy, Carl, Katie, Lauren, Stefan, and there are many other names, less famous, who’ve also suffered and had their lives ruined. Why? Because they dared to speak up and speak bluntly about subjects the left have deemed “taboo”, such as Islamic immigration, rape gangs, the gender rubbish and so on. As Katie says, she’s been non-personned in the UK (and here in Oz, who could forget, only two years ago, when she was kicked out of the country by a Coalition government). Katie Hopkins doesn’t have a bank account, and it’s the same for Tommy and others.

Mainstream figures on the right, be it in the USA, the UK and here in Oz, have almost always sat back and said nothing when the aforementioned names were being cancelled and silenced, almost no one spoke up for Tommy or Katie, and that includes the likes of Nigel Farage. I have a huge amount of respect for Nigel, he’s a superb raconteur and speaker, but here’s the truth, Farage, like others on the mainstream right, have largely remained silent when people like Katie and Tommy and Carl were being harassed, silenced and disappeared.

But the wheel always turns, because the left never stop, they’re never satisfied, and now Farage, his family and others on the mainstream right are being targeted for silencing, their bank accounts are being closed, they are being classed as non-persons.

I’m reminded of the poem by Martin Niemöller (I’ve slightly altered it)….

First they came for Katie
And I did not speak out
Then they came for Tommy
And I did not speak out
Then they came for Milo
And I did not speak out
Then they came for Gavin
And I did not speak out
Because I thought they’d never come for me

….

And then they did come for me
And then they will come for you

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 3, 2023 9:09 pm

Then they came for mOnty
And I did not speak out

Wait, wait. Wait.

That’s scheduled for Wednesday.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 3, 2023 9:11 pm

Anyway, Sliante.

Payday for self funded retirees was today, so I’m having a large single malt – or three – and reading William Manchester “The last Lion – the Life of Winston Churchill.”

Number 10 Downing Street – the residence of British Prime Ministers – was, at one stage used by King Charles II – the most promiscuous of the Stuarts – to house his assorted trollops, and when he neglected them, they would solicit for trade from passer’s by, from the windows, and charge for their services.

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2023 9:19 pm

Taking the King’s shilling. I think that is a drunken misnomer.

bons
bons
July 3, 2023 9:23 pm

So number 10 has ever changed.
Just different trollops.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
July 3, 2023 9:28 pm

Interesting to hear what Brendan “Bazball” McCullum (“we won’t be having a beer together for a while”) thinks about this…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5rQdYzKJaw

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 3, 2023 9:30 pm

Number 10 Downing Street – the residence of British Prime Ministers

Strickly speaking, doesn’t the PM these days reside actually at No. 11?

Dot
Dot
July 3, 2023 9:37 pm

Ummm?

BIS Plan For A GLOBAL CBDC Was Just Released

George Gammon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6vc1sA2bQ0

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 3, 2023 9:46 pm

Strickly speaking, doesn’t the PM these days reside actually at No. 11?

I thought the new bloke – whose name escapes me – had moved back into No 10?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 3, 2023 9:52 pm

I thought the new bloke – whose name escapes me – had moved back into No 10?

Richie Rich, & yes he has, the first PM in a while to live at No. 10 instead of No. 11

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 3, 2023 9:53 pm

“The last Lion – the Life of Winston Churchill.”

Churchill was supposed to have been “on the throne” one morning, when a parliamentary messenger knocked on the door, and announced that the Lord Privy Seal – a man who Churchill detested – wished to see him, immediately.

“Tell the Lord Privy Seal” was the reply” that I am currently sealed to my privy, and I can only deal with one sh!t at a time.”

Why can’t I imagine a display of such wit from any of today’s politicians?

cohenite
July 3, 2023 9:59 pm

Melissa Bachman is one such. The fact that she’s drop dead gorgeous and has a body to die for doesn’t hurt one little bit.

She’s a cute owl. Here’s some more.

cohenite
July 3, 2023 10:07 pm

After watching an interesting video on entropy I realised the reason wind and solar and all natural energy sources do not and will never work is because of their high entropy; their energy lacks density and is spread out unlike high density, unnatural energy sources like the fossils and particularly nuclear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxL2HoqLbyA

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 3, 2023 10:10 pm

She’s a cute owl. Here’s some more.

A neighbor here is a fairly keen ornithologist. He says there is a group of them off away to study the owl population on a wheatbelt farm….

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 3, 2023 10:10 pm

Cripes, Cohen. That looks like Warwick Capper in his prime.

rickw
rickw
July 3, 2023 10:20 pm

“The last Lion – the Life of Winston Churchill.”

Brought it for my daughter.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 3, 2023 10:23 pm

“My tastes are simple: I am easily satisfied with the very best.”

Winston Churchill.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 3, 2023 10:34 pm

Btw, Miltonf: Thank you for the reminder the other night re Desmond Bagley.
There’s a few I haven’t yet read, including the recently published ‘unfinished last novel’
Snavelled them all, though dunno what made me think I’ll ever get the time to read them.

Running Blind I remember well.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
July 3, 2023 10:36 pm

Not sure what Winston would have made of those cute owls… no doubt something pithy

rickw
rickw
July 3, 2023 10:38 pm

My own daughter was blocked from opening a bank account for absurd and perverse reasons

Islamic banking seems to be quite trouble free thus far.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 3, 2023 10:45 pm

France riots: €1m donated to policeman who killed Nahel Merzouk
Fundraising far outstrips €190,000 sent to teenage gun victim’s family
updated
Adam Sage and
Charles Bremner, Paris
Monday July 03 2023, 12.00pm BST, The Times

Fundraising for the family of a French police officer who shot dead a teenager has attracted more than €1 million (£840,000), far more than a similar campaign for the victim’s relatives.

The biggest fund, set up by Jean Messiha, an independent right-wing populist, has raised €990,000 from 50,000 donors, and another run by the policeman’s colleagues has attracted about €60,000. About €189,000 (£163,000) has been pledged by 9,000 people to the family of Nahel Merzouk, who was shot dead in his car at point-blank range on Tuesday in a killing that prompted six nights of rioting.

The 38-year-old officer has been charged with murder and remanded in custody. He claims he had the right to fire his gun to protect the lives of himself, a fellow officer and other road users. A video of the shooting appears to show that there was no immediate danger to them.

Nahel’s grandmother Nadia said she was heartbroken by the donations. “He took the life of my grandson. This man must pay, the same as everyone,” she told the BFM channel.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 3, 2023 10:55 pm

Amsterdam sees red over mayor’s plans to move its prostitutes
Bruno Waterfield, Brussels
Monday July 03 2023, 12.01am BST, The Times
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Proposals to rehouse Amsterdam’s famous prostitutes and window brothels in a Moulin Rouge-style “erotic centre” are coming under attack as a “monster” coalition against it begins campaigning over the summer.

The scheme’s opponents, which include residents’ associations, Jewish organisations, football clubs, prostitutes and property developers, have huge support, with opinion polls suggesting that only one in five Amsterdammers back the relocation.

Femke Halsema, the city’s Green-Left mayor, is planning to close 100 out of 249 brothel windows in the red light district, moving them to a state-of-the-art, multistorey centre and hotel for prostitution and erotic entertainment.

The new mega-brothel has polarised the famously liberal city. Residents have protested against proposed sites for it in the north and south of Amsterdam. Six thousand posters will go up across the city this summer — with the slogans “We love the red light district! Don’t ruin the red light district” — as opposition to the scheme grows.

Halsema, 56, has defended her plan and has accused her critics of being nimbies, sexists and prejudiced against prostitution, which has a rich historical tradition in Amsterdam’s Wallen district.

“You are not a real mayor of Amsterdam if you have not been yelled at strongly. In the end, I just have to weigh up the public interest,” she told the city’s Het Parool newspaper, denying that support for the project was crumbling.

She argues that the red-lit canalside window brothels and sex shops of the district, near the city’s central railway station, have become a public nuisance fuelled by the 18 million tourists who flock to the Dutch capital every year. Groups of young men, often drunk or stoned on the drugs sold in Amsterdam’s cannabis cafés, flock to see the legalised brothels, with scantily clad prostitutes on display behind shop windows.

Inspired by the imagery in the Baz Luhrmann film Moulin Rouge, Halsema has plans for a safe, high-quality complex, including sex clubs and pornographic theatres.

Harlequin Decline
July 3, 2023 11:36 pm

There actually is something new under the sun. A report from the Daily Mail. RSI from w@nking pigs.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2023 11:49 pm

For his polemic to be effective there would have had to been agreed background facts, British infighting or AS incursions.

Marty, I am glad you were tempted out by Gildas, where Dot is actually on the money; the issue is religious differences within the Romano-Britons, but there is also a lot of raiding causing disruption. Gildas wrote a very long and opaque text, but it is all the world has to go on for the immediate post-Roman period. I think it is seriously misdated, never refers to an Anglo-Saxon invasion, and that Bede has a lot to answer for with regard to ‘background facts’ from Gildas. Today I have just written all of that up into an article. Glad to see you are interested, so there is at least and audience of two – you and Dot.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2023 11:55 pm

Cassie at 9.04. Brilliant.
And true.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 3, 2023 11:57 pm

I’m orf to bed.

Moving back in with Hairy.
He’s over his snorey cold now.

And it’s over between me and Gildas. 🙂

Dot
Dot
July 4, 2023 7:20 am

There actually is something new under the sun. A report from the Daily Mail. RSI from w@nking pigs.

Have a thought for poor old Leonardo di Caprio. His knees must be getting sore. He proposes to a girl and then he decides if there’s nothing in their future, he saves their chastity.

Dot
Dot
July 4, 2023 7:33 am
Dot
Dot
July 4, 2023 7:35 am

Jim Cramer, in 2010:

Don’t buy Tesla after its stock split at $1.31.

Tesla now trades at $279.82.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nYPhi0LwO0

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 4, 2023 9:11 am

Albany Advertiser
Indigenous Australians
Regional WA
First round of Moorditj Benang Program successfully wraps up in Albany
Georgia CampionAlbany Advertiser
Tue, 4 July 2023 2:00AM

The first round of the Moorditj Benang Program has been successfully run in Albany with the participation of Indigenous youth from the Great Southern in a long-term effort to reduce indigenous engagement with the criminal justice system.

Mooditj Benang, meaning ‘solid future’, is a 10-week long program that is facilitated and led by Indigenous elders within the Great Southern.

Abut 30 Indigenous youth from Albany and surrounds participated in the first round of the program.

Delivered by the Palmerston Association, with support from Kadadjiny Aboriginal Corporation, the program is funded through the Safer Communities Government Grant with the aim of engaging Indigenous youth with the environment around them.

Palmerston Great Southern regional manager Tina Edwards-Pope was pleased by the huge success of the program.

“It’s been really pleasing to provide these types of opportunities for our youth, and to be able to invest the time and energy needed to help our youth become future leaders and role models.”

The classes were designed and run in collaboration with local agencies such as Great Southern Aboriginal Health, headspace Albany, Legal Aid and South Coast Natural Resource Management.

Indigenous youth are 18 times more likely than non-Indigenous people to be in youth detention in Australia.

The program targets a disengaged and at-risk cohort between the ages of 12 and 24.

Anybody dare to suggest that there is a very good reason why indigenous youth are EIGHTEEN TIMES more likely to be in youth detention in Australia?

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