Open Thread – Tues 4 July 2023


Washington Crossing the Delaware, Emanuel Leutze, 1851

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Tom
Tom
July 7, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
July 7, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
July 7, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
July 7, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
July 7, 2023 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
July 7, 2023 4:12 am
Johnny Rotten
July 7, 2023 4:50 am

Thanks once again Tom.

Johnny Rotten
July 7, 2023 4:50 am

Thanks once again Tom.

Johnny Rotten
July 7, 2023 5:02 am

Only entropy comes easy.

– Anton Chekhov

Johnny Rotten
July 7, 2023 5:20 am

BRICS to Replace the Dollar?

“The goldbugs cling to everything they can to promote gold at the destruction of the dollar. They are pushing the idea that China, Russia, and other BRICS countries are developing a dollar alternative. The truth of the matter is that is more fiction. Even India’s foreign minister S. Jaishankar came out and said, “There is no idea of a BRICS currency.” Foreign minister S. Jaishankar made it clear that the five-member BRICS group – consisting of Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa – isn’t currently planning to develop a greenback substitute for trade and investments. “On what we will discuss at the BRICS meeting, we’ll have to see because there are many other issues – but there is no idea of a BRICS currency,” he said, as shown by footage from the Hindustan Times.

To even attempt to do something is absurd to create a BRICS currency like the euro would doom their economies. The #1 market remains the American consumer, and to price things in some alternative currency would undermine their own economies. People need to understand currency.

That was the entire purpose of creating the Euro. German Chancellor Kohl took Germany into the euro for the purpose of eliminating the foreign exchange risk to other European states so that Germany could then sell more products throughout Europe. The euro was to eliminate that foreign exchange risk to increase sales. The propaganda of the goldbugs who just hate the dollar is utter nonsense. They will not create some BRICS alternative to the dollar, surrendering their sovereignty to some central power as all European states did by creating Brussels. Kohl denied the Germans the right to vote on joining the euro, for he knew he would lose. That is why he refused to consolidate the debts fearing the German people would rise up in revolt against him.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/markets-by-sector/foreign-exchange/brics-to-replace-the-dollar/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Johnny Rotten
July 7, 2023 5:30 am

Fred Flintstone has now come up with a new Social Media messaging Platform called ‘Freds’.

To date 3 users have signed up and those users are – Wilma Flintstone, Barney Rubble and Betty Rubble.

Fred stated to a Bedrock TV Station news reporter – “This is a great start and nepotism doesn’t come into it.”

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 7, 2023 5:42 am

Ireland

Well, landed in Ireland on an Air Qatar flight – excellent – to find the air bridge at Dublin International would not connect with the Dreamliner. After a bit everyone got told to sit down again and wait.About 20 minutes later airport management managed to connect two flights of ramp stairs to the plane and we seemed to enter the back door. No technology on arrival – old style booths and passport stamped – airport seemed to be over-whelmed with Ryanair flights returning.

Welcome to Ireland!

Dublin….mmmm. Has a fair bit not to like. Uber is unobtainable – there is a strong taxi union that had kept it out. Graffiti plentiful everywhere. Some rubbish on the streets in the suburbs, although the city itself is clean. There is a high level of tacky and/or disreputable shopfronts in the city area, often allowed to exist two or three at a time next to an old Georgian public building or a still-majestic church. The police force, by the way, aren’t called “police” – but The Garda, and known as “the guards”.

On the good side there are a lot of old buildings, statues with a story, or interesting landmarks. We took in a lot on a 2.5hr walking tour of the city, which took in most of the major ones south of the city, including the Dublin Castle and Christchurch Cathedral. Strangely enough the tour didn’t go north of the river to the Post Office which was a major part of the 1916 Easter Rising, so we checked that out ourselves. The bus/tram service is excellent, which is just as well, as there is no other public transport.

Toured Old Kilmainham Gaol – many Irish revolutionaries, including the leaders of the 1916 Easter Rising, were imprisoned and executed in the prison by the orders of the UK Government.

Many thousands of Irish immigrants/convicts left from Dublin to Australia, and beyond that emigrants to all sorts of placed across the globe. Our tour guide said that Ireland overall is one of the few places in the world where the population decreased from the 1800s to the 1900s – about 70% of the people left for better opportunities overseas. Our guide also told us that living here now is expensive and people are still leaving!

Cool and showers. Don’t think any Dubliners go out without their jacket with hood and umbrella.

Onto Belfast next…don’t mention the war…

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 7, 2023 5:54 am

Those champions of the downtrodden. Daily Telegraph:

Some Greens MPs who blocked Labor’s 30,000-home social housing fund hold property portfolios worth millions of dollars – and the party’s 15 federal members own 27 homes or land parcels between them and their partners.

As Australians struggle through a severe housing crisis, research on the rental value of similar properties shows some of the MPs would command combined rents of upwards of $1000 a week on their portfolios.

But they teamed up with the Coalition to block a vote on Labor’s Housing Australia Future Fund, which will finance the construction of 30,000 homes over five years.

The Greens, who have demanded more spending and tighter rent controls, moved to delay debate on the bill until October.

The parliamentary register of interests, which requires politicians to declare property and share holdings, reveals some of the party’s MPs own up to four properties.

But the party says all its landlord MPs have frozen their tenants’ rent.

Of SA’s two Greens’ senators, Sarah Hanson-Young only had her personal home to declare and no investment property, and Barbara Pocock declared her personal home and a block of land at Chiton, near Victor Harbor.

In addition to their home, NSW Senator and the party’s deputy leader Mehreen Faruqi and her husband own two investment properties.

One is a terrace in the inner Sydney suburb of Beaconsfield, which RP Data records show was bought for $193,000 in 1996. Its value has since soared to an estimated $1.47m (according to realestate.com.au) and it was last listed for rent at $725/week in 2019.

In 2001 they bought another investment property at Port Macquarie, on the mid-north coast of NSW, for $250,000. The four-bedroom house, now worth an estimated $1.37m, was last listed for rent at $480/week in 2020.

Senator Faruqi also owns a 500sqm parcel of land in Lahore, Pakistan.

Her NSW colleague Senator David Shoebridge has close ties to a similarly impressive portfolio, with his declaration including the mortgages to three investment properties owned by his wife.

The couple live in inner-Sydney’s swish Woollahra, where the median house price is more than $5m, and his wife has properties in Ultimo and Darlinghurst, which are also close to the harbour city’s CBD.

Mr Shoebridge declared to the NSW Parliament in 2020 that a third investment was located interstate.

The three-bedroom, one-bathroom Ultimo terrace was bought in 2012 for $543,000 and is now estimated to be valued at about $1.5m.

It was listed for rent at $650/week in 2018 and re-listed in 2021 at a price undisclosed.

The Darlinghurst apartment, which has two bedrooms, was bought in 2011 for $535,000. Since then its value has also soared to about $1.5m, according to realestate.com.au estimates.

Elizabeth Watson-Brown, member for the Brisbane electorate of Ryan, and her husband have their home in the riverside suburb of Saint Lucia plus a property at Auchenflower, just west of the Queensland capital’s CBD.

That property is listed as an investment on her interests declaration and has been used as a business premises.

They also have a beachfront holiday house at Hastings Point on the north coast of NSW, which was purchased in 2009 for $618,000 and is now valued at about $844,000.

Tasmanian senator Nick McKim declared four properties – his West Hobart home, a “shack” at Nubeena, southeast of Hobart, and investments in Nubeena and New Norfolk, northwest of the Tasmanian capital.

In May, he said only one of those properties was tenanted.

“Our tenant is a disabled family member who would otherwise likely be homeless because of the abject failure of the major parties to deal with the rental crisis,” he tweeted.

Senator McKim said the other property listed as an investment was agricultural land that is being rewilded.

Other Greens MPs who declared more than one property included senators Penny Allman-Payne from Queensland and Janet Rice from Victoria.

A spokesman for Greens leader Adam Bandt said Greens MPs who rent out properties have frozen their rental rates – but a renter’s ability to keep their home shouldn’t rely upon the generosity of the owner.

“We need a massive shakeup to make housing affordable in Australia, but it’s important that we do what we can,” he said.

“We need the Prime Minister and National Cabinet to freeze rent increases and cap them after two years.”

The spokesman said every single Greens MP in parliament supported a freeze on rent increases and winding back negative gearing.

Greens MPs who did not own property included Queensland’s Max Chandler-Mather, who holds the seat of Griffiths, Stephen Bates, who has the seat of Brisbane, and WA senator Dorinda Cox.

rosie
rosie
July 7, 2023 6:19 am

I don’t care much for billions to be spent on more ‘social housing’.
As always I’d rather less red green and black tape and lower taxes.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 7, 2023 6:30 am

Some bloke Scott Sawyer makes the claim for Teh Voice, Courier Mail:

The Indigenous Voice to Parliament is being painted by opponents as a tool by which to somehow subvert or override the Constitution and divide the nation.

But what the ‘No’ vote campaign fails to capture, or is choosing to ignore, is the fact that this nation is already divided.

The Voice is not the be all and end all, and will not magically solve all the problems. But it is an important step on the path to treaty and bona fide representation. It’s also a massive show of goodwill.

It should not be considered a box-ticking exercise or an attempt at lip service, but a genuine step on a longer path. It’s vital recognition that we can, and will, do better.

The Voice is a lever, one of many, to pull in a bid to try and level the playing field for our Indigenous people, not a wedge to drive between Australians.

The Australian Law Reform Commission’s Inquiry into the Incarceration Rate of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples highlighted back in 2018 the disparity.

Despite only making up about 2 per cent of the population in 2016, Indigenous people accounted for 27 per cent of the national prison population.

Incarceration rates of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples increased 41 per cent from 2006 to 2016.

The rate of imprisonment of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander woman was 464.8 per 100,000 people in 2016.

The rate of non-Indigenous women? Only 21.9 per 100,000 people.

Non-Indigenous men were only incarcerated at a rate of 291.1 per 100,000 people in 2016.

The 1991 Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody found indicators of disadvantage that contributed to this imbalanced prison representation included the fact that Aboriginal people were dispossessed of their land “without benefit of treaty, agreement or compensation”.

Other indicators identified included economic position, health, housing requirements, access to land, jobs, education and the effects of alcohol and other drugs.

But little has changed.

In 2016 Indigenous people were still 12.5 times more likely to be in prison than non-Indigenous people while Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander women were 21.2 times more likely to be in prison than non-Indigenous women.

The 2021 Census data released this year found despite a minor decline in total prisoners and prisoner incarceration rates of Indigenous people from June 30, 2021 to June 30, 2022, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders accounted for 32 per cent of the country’s total adult prisoner population.

Seventy-eight per cent of those had previously experienced prison as an adult.

Corrective services data from the March quarter, 2023, showed rates were back on an upward trajectory, with more than 13,700 Indigenous people in jail, compared to 12,500 in the March quarter, 2022, with the incarceration rates of both male and female Indigenous people also on the rise.

Census data from 2021 states Indigenous people made up 3.2 per cent of the Australian population, with a significant increase in the number of people identifying as Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander in the 2021 Census, mostly in the 0-19 years age bracket.

This is a system that is not working.

Since the Royal Commission there has been 547 Indigenous deaths in custody.

Opponents will argue more non-Indigenous deaths in custody have occurred, or that no death in custody is acceptable. Both of these statements are true. No death in custody should become acceptable.

But the rate at which Indigenous people are dying in custody in comparison, highlights again, the disadvantage and disparity that exists in this already divided nation.

Australian Institute of Criminology data from 2021-22 states the death in custody rate for Indigenous males was 5.63 per 100,000 compared to just 0.68 per 100,000 non-Indigenous males.

This is only a year ago.

The health outlook is just as bleak.

The 2020 Closing The Gap Report found in 2015-17 the life expectancy of Indigenous males was 71.6 years, compared to 80.2 years for non-Indigenous men.

Indigenous women had a life expectancy of 75.6 years compared to 83.4 years for non-Indigenous women.

And while there were improvements in Indigenous mortality rates from 2006-2018, non-Indigenous rates also improved. The gap has not closed.

The imbalance is also evident in education.

The Australian Institute of Health and Welfare explains that 2016 Census data revealed 42 per cent of Indigenous Australians aged 25-34 had achieved a Certificate III or above as their highest level of education, compared to 72 per cent of non-Indigenous Australians the same age.

Are you starting to catch my drift?

I’m not going to argue the Yes vote campaigners have nailed the brief thus far. They haven’t.

More needs to be done to provide clarity if they expect people to vote in support, but equally, it’s on all of us to improve our understanding.

I would love more detail about the proposal, what it will look like in action and what tangible outcomes they expect to achieve and when.

But I also understand the status quo simply can’t remain.

The system is clearly failing Indigenous Australians and we are already living in a divided society.

I’ll never experience the institutionalised barriers facing Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders.

Like so many of us, I’m fortunate to have been raised in relative privilege. I wasn’t raised on the other side of the divide.

My daughter is the same.

But this is not the reality for many First Nations people.

The Voice is a proposed advisory body. Not a new government.

It will not have veto power.

It is not a mechanism by which our way of life will be disintegrated, our parliament overthrown or Constitution torn up. These were the same sort of fears spewed by same-sex marriage opponents during that horrid debate and at the time of writing the sky still hasn’t fallen in.

The Voice is a lever which, if pulled, albeit along with many more (it won’t be enough in itself), will hopefully help improve the lot for generations of Indigenous people who have been and continue to be let down.

It’s a significant step in the right direction which might just lift up this important minority, help level the playing field and you never know, we might even end up with a more unified country than we have now.

And yes, at some point we are putting a lot of trust in our elected representatives. That’s a scary thought.

We are trusting that The Voice is more than just a lip-service mechanism or box-ticking exercise. It must drive real, tangible and multi-generational change. Failure to ensure that will be a failure of our politicians.

The notion that The Voice represents inequality or unfair representation is laughable.

We already have 151 members in the House of Representatives and 76 Senators who are for the most part overwhelmingly white, middle-class Australians.

That demographic is well and truly represented.

Like the same-sex marriage survey, this referendum offers Australia a unique opportunity.

We can choose to become, as a community, as a country, better than we were yesterday.

Or we can choose to be swayed by fear.

The choice is ours.

FMD

rosie
rosie
July 7, 2023 6:38 am

The Voice won’t fix it.
Cutting off the endless streams of ‘sit down’ money might.
That and turning the NT and a few other places dry.
Alcohol sales were prohibited in the Australian Capital Territory between 1910 and 1928… In 1837, laws were passed to prevent Aboriginal access to alcohol as binge drinking became problematic.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 7, 2023 6:38 am

Yes rosie I’m interested into why the Greens blocked the Bill. Might the development have endangered a gay tree frog on the city limits?
They can’t scream housing crises and call for more to be done in that area, along with calling for more immigration, then hold impressive portfolios.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 7, 2023 6:43 am

turning the NT and a few other places dry

Steady on.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 7, 2023 6:54 am

From BB’s quoted piece:

The Voice is a lever, one of many, to pull in a bid to try and level the playing field

That’s weird. I don’t remember getting $100 million a day recently.

I demand this playing field be levelled!

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2023 7:00 am

It’s a significant step in the right direction which might just lift up this important minority…

The minority that holds some form of title over 60% of the continent.

Remember when land rights was the panacea? I do.

Now it’s a Voice and Treaty.

Australians are wary of goal post shifters.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 7, 2023 7:01 am

Rita Panahi on the latest in AFL stupidity:

The hyperbolic may call it “victim-blaming” but it’s hard to feel much sympathy for some of the AFL players, current and former, caught up in the nude photo scandal.

One can sympathise with the younger players whose brains have not fully developed sending ill-advised dick shots, and other assorted graphic imagery to social media accounts in the hopes of scoring a hook-up.

That said, every single player on an AFL list has undergone some sort of social media training warning them of the pitfalls of engaging in this sort of conduct.

It’s time the AFL learned that this behaviour can lead to blackmail, sextortion and could threaten the integrity of the game.

More on that later.

They may be young, dumb and horny, but as AFL players they are also held to a different standard.

Mostly it’s upside, but there are some limitations on what they can and cannot do.

For example, they cannot put their bits on the world wide web and expect to be protected by the vultures, groupies and catfishers who target professional sportsmen.

There are claims that some of the images in the Google drive document are “fake” or “staged”, which is curious given they have been described as “a gross breach of privacy”.

There is no question that the players’ privacy has been breached, and those responsible for collecting and distributing these images have behaved reprehensibly and criminally.

That is a given; it does not change the fact that in 2023, AFL players should know better.

Sadly, there are plenty of terrible people in the world and these young men must be vigilant in protecting themselves from those with malicious intent.

But while one can understand how rookies can make such daft mistakes, it’s another thing to have seasoned AFL players – including captains, vice-captains, multiple Brownlow medallists and at least one board member – indulging in such reckless behaviour.

That some have wives and long-term girlfriends is another issue entirely.

To send nude images, and worse, to some unknown social media account with a thirst-trap profile picture is the sort of dimwitted idiocy that you’d expect from a teenager.

Is it really too much to limit one’s dick-pic sharing activity to people you actually know and trust?

That said, it’s naive to think that unworldly, testosterone-fuelled young men are not going to indulge in sexting – after all it’s behaviour that is commonplace in the digital age.

A 2021 meta-analysis of 39 studies published in the Journal of Adolescent Health, involving more than 110,000 participants from 2009 to 2015, revealed that 16 per cent of teens admit to sending a nude photo while 33 per cent said they had received one.

You can expect those numbers have increased significantly.

That’s why the AFL and its clubs has to do more to educate players, scare them silly if necessary, to reduce the likelihood of them engaging in behaviour that leaves them exposed (excuse the pun).

Cyber safety expert Susan McLean believes the players have done nothing wrong and is encouraging them to report the illegal photo sharing to police.

“The players are not at fault, as consenting adults they have a right to take images and to send to other consenting adults, but they need to consider the risks,” she said.

“The players have to personally make a complaint to police if they are serious about cracking down on this sort of behaviour.

“The issue of sextortion is huge and the primary targets are adolescent males and young men.”

The lack of official complaints by the affected players means that Victoria Police, while aware of the nude images being circulated, are not actively investigating the origins of the Google drive document.

In recent years we’ve seen images of players using illicit drugs circulate online.

There is a real risk of players being blackmailed with damaging images, whether it be nudes or drug use.

Former Collingwood president Eddie McGuire believes the integrity of the competition may be under threat if players are threatened with the release of damaging pictures.

“The opportunity to blackmail players and disrupt the finals for nefarious reasons, such as match- fixing, is obvious,” he said.

“The AFL needs to address its rules and positioning to alleviate the issue of blackmailing of players.”

You can be sure of one thing, this won’t be the last time that the AFL is caught up in a nude photo scandal.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 7, 2023 7:12 am

Uninspirational white guy news, combined with a bit of submariner self-preservation (the Hun):

In the latest shocking detail to emerge of the carbon-fibre hull, video revealed CEO Stockton Rush comparing the glue holding the submersible together to “peanut butter”.

In a 2018 clip on the company’s YouTube channel, titled “Bonding the Titanium Ring and Carbon Fibre Hull”, Rush admitted the design was “pretty simple, but if we mess it up, there’s not a lot of recovery”.

No shit. Mr Rush went into his own creation to a depth of about half that of the Titanic (4000 metres), then:

After the first successful dive, however, Rush reportedly asked other OceanGate staffers to captain the Titan submersible, according to the company’s former finance director.

Nice. Real nice. You could almost say… inspirational.

Speaking to The New Yorker on condition of anonymity, the ex-employee said she quit after Rush wanted her to replace the original pilot, David Lochridge, who had been fired.

“It freaked me out that he would want me to be head pilot, since my background is in accounting, I could not work for Stockton. I did not trust him.”

‘Off you go. It’s an Xbox controller, how hard can it be? Go on – I’ll give you a shout out on the company Instagram story.’

In an email to an ex-associate, Mr Lochridge warned years earlier about the dangers of the sub and its creator.

“I don’t want to be seen as a Tattle tale but I’m so worried he kills himself and others in the quest to boost his ego,” he wrote, according to The New Yorker.

This bloke and his entire shitshow are having any remaining lustre sandblasted off.

eric hinton
eric hinton
July 7, 2023 7:14 am

rosie
Jul 7, 2023 6:38 AM

[Snip] Alcohol sales were prohibited in the Australian Capital Territory.

Do I detect the hand of teetotalling hot gospelling tubercular bigamist swindling Yank emigre, King O’Malley?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 7, 2023 7:17 am

You can be sure of one thing, this won’t be the last time that the AFL is caught up in a nude photo scandal.

It wasn’t the first, either. The St.Kilda Schoolgirl dumped hard-copy pics of several players with their knobs exposed all over Flinders Street Station not all that long ago.

Ricky Nixon, flog faux-player-manager-extraordinaire, wasn’t featured in the pics. He is a genuine knob, though.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2023 7:20 am

Not a few people today appear to be so open minded their brains have fallen out.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 7, 2023 7:21 am

Knuckles be fair, the Queensland bloke that’s on best friends terms with the pooch is going to get off anyway. Defence says it was a choice between the dog or Palacechook.

JC
JC
July 7, 2023 7:21 am

Wow, just wow. Organic food at regular prices.

https://twitter.com/BrianRoemmele

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2023 7:24 am

You go girl….from The Oz.

Deeming to issue Pesutto with 3rd defamation notice
Tricia Rivera

Expelled Victorian Liberal MP Moira Deeming will issue Victorian Opposition Leader John Pesutto with a third defamation concerns notice next week.

It follows two other notices where Ms Deeming alleges Mr Pesutto accused her of being a “Nazi sympathiser and Nazi associate” after she attended a ‘Let Women Speak’ rally, organised by British feminist activist Kellie-Jay Keen, which was gatecrashed by neo-Nazis.

“It’s just been absolutely horrendous [for] myself and my family and for all the women who are named in that dossier and all the women who attended the event who have actually been smeared with that same brush,” Ms Deeming told Credlin on Sky News on Thursday night.

“Look, every single attempt to mediate has been rejected. I can’t get anywhere and it’s just not something that I can let stand. I wasn’t raised to let this kind of injustice happen to myself or to anyone else.

“And so there just comes a point in time where if you’ve got no other options, you do have to take legal action and that’s unfortunately where I’m at.”

It says a lot about the Victorian Lieberals and its leader that…

1. Prosciutto has not apologised and has actually doubled down.

2. Moira was expelled from the Party.

Kellie-Jay Keen is thinking about suing Prosciutto. Good. Angie Jones should sue him too. The man is a disgrace.

Beertruk
July 7, 2023 7:39 am
rosie
rosie
July 7, 2023 7:47 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
July 7, 2023 7:51 am

But they teamed up with the Coalition to block a vote on Labor’s Housing Australia Future Fund, which will finance the construction of 30,000 homes over five years.

Depending on what research & forecasts you want to follow, it’s expected that an average 150k dwellings will be built per year over the next 3 years.
An additional 5-6k would move the dial but there is zero chance they’ll be delivered over that time frame.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 7, 2023 7:53 am

If Australia expects 200k-250k migrants per year for the next couple of years (at least) and there is only 150k dwellings being built per year, you can do the math.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 7, 2023 7:59 am

I had dinner last night with a group of mates who were in town from HK, Singapore & Dubai.
The ex-pat community can drink.
From my calculations it’s second time this year I’ve blown myself up.
I am very hungover this morning.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2023 8:00 am

If Australia expects 200k-250k migrants per year for the next couple of years (at least) and there is only 150k dwellings being built per year, you can do the math.

Australia is not being governed in the interests of Australians.

BIRM.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 7, 2023 8:01 am

20 years ago, we’d blow ourselves up once, twice a week & think nothing of it.
Now it’s a multi day recovery process.
Youth is definitely wasted on the young.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 7, 2023 8:03 am

It would seem the movie Sound of Freedom (a true story about a guy who takes on child traffickers) is trouncing Indiana Jones 5.

I also hear that the film was ready in 2018 but the filmmakers had trouble finding a distributer – including Netflix who did not want their brand associated with the film content.

This would be the same Netflix that gladly released the movie Cuties.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2023 8:05 am

This Pesutto fellow doesn’t seem to be very bright…apparently he’s going to pursue the truth defence.

rosie
rosie
July 7, 2023 8:08 am

Prosecutto must have deep pockets.

rosie
rosie
July 7, 2023 8:09 am

I think I meant Persecutto.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2023 8:13 am

The Age reports: ‘Hundreds of defective balconies found in Melbourne apartment buildings during inspections of flammable cladding’

Is this peculiar to Victoria?

rosie
rosie
July 7, 2023 8:17 am

Pascoe makes big claims that Aboriginal Australians made it into the Neolithic age with a few fish traps and harvesting of grass seeds.
I think it’s a front to divert taxpayer money into ‘Aboriginal farming’ and ‘water management’ ventures.
Paleolithic Fish Traps Found in Norway

shatterzzz
July 7, 2023 8:17 am

Gotta luv diversity! seems Ho Chi Minns is coughing up “our” money to teach Transport NSW “wukkas” to read & write ..
How the hell do you get a NSW PS job when you can’t read or write English?
Also noted one that slipped thru the media last week about Ho Chi Minns taking a holiday .. bloke’s only been in the job a coupla months but, apparently, needed a break .. Politics great lurk if you can get into it .. FFS!

https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/nsw-premier-spends-200000-on-writing-lessons-for-nsw-transport-employees/video/31e1d4e6990a113802160d7979936b61

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 7, 2023 8:18 am

Roger

I suspect that apartment blocks are the preserve of the CMMFEU, a union with high powered maaaaaates. And the construction industry is one of the maaaaates.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2023 8:19 am

Robodebt reckoning today.

At the very least it should put to rest any hopes Stuart Robert has of becoming a Canberra lobbyist and inflict some reputational damage on Morrison & Porter.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2023 8:24 am

I suspect that apartment blocks are the preserve of the CMMFEU

No doubt, but who signs off on the buildings?

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 7, 2023 8:25 am

Via Black Ball

In 2016 Indigenous people were still 12.5 times more likely to be in prison than non-Indigenous people while Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander women were 21.2 times more likely to be in prison than non-Indigenous women.

These percentages are tossed around regularly. The implication of them is that it is all waaaacssssisssst members of the public complaining about, and waycsssist police arresting, poor innocent indigenes.

The missing part is that, either there must be adequate supporting evidence for all these people to end up in jail, or not only are the public and the police wacsssssissst, but so too are the prosecutors who proceed with charges with inadequate supporting evidence, and also the judges and magistrates who impose the sentences.

All one huge conspiracy, is it? At least, that is what they are implying with these stories.

shatterzzz
July 7, 2023 8:26 am

But they teamed up with the Coalition to block a vote on Labor’s Housing Australia Future Fund, which will finance the construction of 30,000 homes over five years.

Sooo, Luigi is gonna import 250 000 migrants a year whilst attempting to build 6 000 homes a year which, given gummint involvement, should equate to around 500 homes a year (way over the top guess! LOL) a year .. luv the maths ..!

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 7, 2023 8:26 am

Robodebt reckoning today.

Odds of the solicitor-general getting a smack too?
1000/1.

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2023 8:28 am

All Prosciutto had to do was apologise.

All Prosciutto had to say was “I’m sorry, I got it wrong. Moira Deeming is not a “Nazi sympathiser and Nazi associate”, nor is Angie Jones, nor is Kellie-Jay Keen”…and nor is Cassie of Sydney or any other woman who attended Kellie-Jay’s Let Women Speak rallies across Australia.

But no, he’s doubled down, like a weasel. He really is Dan’s little man. No wonder Dan always has a smirk on his face. Why wouldn’t he? With Matthew Guy and now Johnny Proscuitto as opposition leaders, all they do is dance to Dan’s ditties, such as “Nazis, Nazis, Nazis everywhere”.*

Actually, to be fair, there does seem to be a lot of Nazis in Victoria, very clean cut Nazis, who look like something out a Mel Brooks’ musical. These Nazis, oddly enough, always seem to pop up out of no where, and are always waived through by Victorian police. I mean, a conspiracy theorist would claim that there’s perhaps some connection between the top echelons of Vic Plod and a cell of clean cut and very campy Grampian Nazis who always look as though they’re about to sing, on Spring Street, “Springtime for Hitler”. Hmmm, but here’s the thing, I don’t regard such a claim as a conspiracy, I suspect that there’s some merit behind that claim.

rosie
rosie
July 7, 2023 8:30 am

I wouldn’t just blame unions, builders and government authorities that sign off on these projects should bear primary responsibility.
A family member had a town house (now sold) balcony had had to be redone due to zero water proofing.
You see these places everywhere, with water stained ex cheapo cladding that is the giveaway..
I wouldn’t buy one.
copy article here?

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 7, 2023 8:30 am

Roger
Jul 7, 2023 8:24 AM
I suspect that apartment blocks are the preserve of the CMMFEU

No doubt, but who signs off on the buildings?

Maaaaates who check carefully that there are no slugs present in the concrete.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 7, 2023 8:38 am

I think it’s a front to divert taxpayer money into ‘Aboriginal farming’ and ‘water management’ ventures.
Rosie, the dream-big power grab is about cementing “Aboriginal” arses into the power positions in ag and natural resource management. And further, Voice and Treaty crap is aimed at getting the same aboriginal-identifying born-to-rule commies into the permanent seats of administration and governance in health, housing, education- defence, transport, trade, you name it.
“Taxpayer money” actually hardly comes into it. If it did, then the Big Men like Mandarlwuy Yunipingu and Linda Burney would probably be cock-a-hoop with their sixth house and charter flights and maybe even pull their heads in- but the exercise and display of power is irresistable to them, it’s the increasingly ostentatious Triumph which parades their demigod status over us mere proles.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 7, 2023 8:45 am

The AFR View

NBN battles the satellites

It would be a stretch to call this a technological disaster for the NBN. But it is another underscoring of technological risks.

NBN Co’s interest in working with low-orbit satellite operators like Elon Musk’s Starlink – rather than its own SkyMuster satellites – to service its bush customers says something about the vulnerability of big, fixed long-life infrastructure to fast-changing technology.

Starlink uses a constellation of 4000 satellites around the Earth, while SkyMuster uses two 6.5-tonne satellites dedicated to Australia which hundreds of thousands of potential rural customers have declined to use because of their poor performance.

Starlink already has 120,000 Australian customers signed up directly to its services. SkyMuster has just 93,000 customers, sold through local retailers.

Blocked out of sharing infrastructure with TPG in the bush on competition grounds, Telstra is pursuing its own deal with Starlink for internet and voice services.

It would be a stretch to call this a technological disaster for the NBN, with the satellites simply written off earlier in their 15-year lifespan.

But for an organisation which locked Australia into one broadband technology, is unlikely to ever make a commercial profit and has written off $31 billion in development costs, it is another underscoring of technological risks.

The irony is that one reason NBN Co exists is because the Rudd government became frustrated with commercial telcos for trying to corner lucrative city broadband markets rather than offering universal coverage across the nation, including the sparsely populated and costly-to-serve bush.

Yet while the NBN Co now has a near-monopoly on cable-based fibre and copper broadband connections in urban Australia, there is nothing to stop others from using the rising number of alternative satellite services in the bush where they are available.

Mr Musk is yet to show his Starlink service can be profitable either, though a larger Australian market might help him achieve that.

It will whittle away the commercial returns of the NBN too, overtaken by technology in the bush market that was so critical to its formation.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2023 8:45 am

Speaking of corruption in Victoria, what’s happened with Mrs. Andrews v. young cyclist?

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 7, 2023 8:48 am

Seems the Lancet is still at it:

A Lancet review of 325 autopsies after Covid vaccination found that 74% of the deaths were caused by the vaccine – but the journal removed the study within 24 hours.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2023 8:50 am

When certain inner city Brisbane suburbs were rezoned for medium density housing in the 1970s a lot of “six pack” unit blocks were put up by Italian and Yugoslav builders.

They weren’t pretty but they were built like pillboxes.

Johnny Rotten
July 7, 2023 8:58 am

Speaking of corruption in Victoria, what’s happened with Mrs. Andrews v. young cyclist?

Still being looked into by an ‘Independent Tribunal’ set up by Chairman Dan.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2023 9:03 am

Still being looked into by an ‘Independent Tribunal’ set up by Chairman Dan.

Never set up an independent tribunal if you haven’t predetermined the outcome.

Johnny Rotten
July 7, 2023 9:05 am

Sooo, Luigi is gonna import 250 000 migrants a year whilst attempting to build 6 000 homes a year which, given gummint involvement, should equate to around 500 homes a year (way over the top guess! LOL) a year .. luv the maths ..!

According to Tennis Elbow and Blackout Bowen, there are three kinds of people in this World of theirs. Those that can count and those that can’t.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 7, 2023 9:15 am

A heads up.
Professors Bruce Mountain & Simon Bartlett will be releasing a major study into the national renewable grid plan in a couple of weeks.
They have already branded the plan as a monumental mistake and the making of a huge white elephant predicated on AEMO’s outdated concepts of grand nationwide connectivity.
These guys are the technical backbone of our opposition to transmission and renewable projects infesting the bush.
I’ve been asked to meet with them before the report is released to get a rudimentary grasp of their technical arguments so we can present a cohesive and informed voice to government and media.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 7, 2023 9:19 am

Coming to Australia under The “Voice”

No Speed Limit for Native Americans

The latest McGirt mess is a Choctaw scofflaw immune from city fines.

By The WSJ Editorial Board

Are Native Americans really immune from municipal traffic laws in nearly half of Oklahoma?

This is the latest strangeness arising from Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch’s flight of textualist fancy in the McGirt decision three years ago. Last week the federal 10th Circuit Court of Appeals said a Choctaw man, Justin Hooper, can’t be fined in Tulsa for speeding.

Mr. Hooper paid a $150 traffic ticket in 2018. But after McGirt transformed much of eastern Oklahoma into what the law calls “Indian country,” Mr. Hooper asked for a judgment ruling him untouchable by municipal driving laws. “Mr. Hooper has a credible fear,” his attorney told the judges during oral argument, “that the city of Tulsa will continue to attempt to enforce their traffic ordinances against him.”

Tulsa’s argument was that it originally incorporated under the 1898 Curtis Act, a federal law that authorized it to enforce its laws against “all inhabitants” and “without regard to race.” The legal dispute was whether, as the city claimed, this power survived Tulsa’s reorganization upon Oklahoma’s statehood in 1907. The 10th Circuit panel ruled that it did not, meaning the Curtis Act’s sweeping grant of jurisdiction does not apply to “Tulsa in its current form.”

What a mess.

Advocates of Native American sovereignty say it isn’t so bad, since Oklahoma cities can make agreements with their nearby tribes to cross-deputize each other’s police officers. “It has always been the case that the City of Tulsa has the authority to write tickets and send those over to our various nations,” the Cherokee Nation’s attorney general told the Associated Press. “They simply haven’t been doing that in favor of this Curtis Act argument.”

Yet there are serious concerns about the transparency and efficiency of this process. How are beat cops supposed to identify everybody who’s Native American, and what if perpetrators lie or are incapacitated and can’t answer? Even when the facts are stipulated in open court, it isn’t always clear who legally counts as Native American. One case after McGirt involved a 3/16 Choctaw who wasn’t a tribal member at the time of his crime, and who spent nine years in an Aryan white-supremacist prison gang. His conviction was tossed anyway.

If a city speed limit can’t touch tribal members, what about zoning codes or license requirements or other municipal rules? “Citizens of Tulsa, if your city government cannot enforce something as simple as a traffic violation, there will be no rule of law in eastern Oklahoma,” said Gov. Kevin Stitt, who’s a Cherokee.

“It is plain and simple, there cannot be a different set of rules for people solely based on race.”

Tulsa Mayor G.T. Bynum said last week the city intends to appeal, and he has “authorized our attorneys to request that the United States Supreme Court hear this case.”

In his McGirt opinion, Justice Gorsuch was blithe about the ramifications of reviving Native American reservations that generations of Oklahomans understood had ceased to exist.

Now the legal questions keep coming, and somebody has to answer them with justice on the line.

Johnny Rotten
July 7, 2023 9:20 am

Fred Flintstone has now come up with a new Social Media messaging Platform called ‘Freds’.

To date 3 users have signed up and those users are – Wilma Flintstone, Barney Rubble and Betty Rubble.

Fred stated to a Bedrock TV Station news reporter – “This is a great start and nepotism doesn’t come into it.”

Further to Fred’s ‘Fred’, Fred stated that there would be ‘three’ speech for the three users or something that sounded like that and that there would be no need for any censorship as long as the users abided by his rules and did what he said………………

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 7, 2023 9:25 am

Good to see that greenslime are still pressing the big red button as their only response to everything.

Carmakers double spending on ads in Australia for SUVs and utes
Exclusive: Data shows huge jump in promotion and an 80% increase in sales of larger and more polluting vehicles, leading to calls for ban on ads

“Whyyyy wont people but the matchbox jimmny 12V utes? Whyyyy?

Thinktanks including the Grattan Institute, the Australia Institute and various transport academics have also identified fringe benefits tax, temporary full expensing policy and the loss carry-back tax offset as tax perks to bring larger vehicles within reach to more Australians, especially for small business owners regardless of their industry.

Theres the useless academic class again, agitating for “fixes” that will create more opportunity for problems they can “solve”.

Belinda Noble, Comms Declare
Robin Smit, an adjunct associate professor at the University of Technology Sydney and founder and director at Transport Energy/Emission Research
Dr Chris Jones, president of the Australian Electric Vehicle Association

All these people should be on the streets selling vital organs and bodily access to make a living. Instead they are supported by various entities with opaque funding or even worse, tax supported.
Universities – cant produce enough doctors. Somehow able to produce a surplus of tax eaters.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 7, 2023 9:28 am

But what the ‘No’ vote campaign fails to capture, or is choosing to ignore, is the fact that this nation is already divided.

It is divided precisely by the politics that The Voice will be the final keystone that makes the structure permanent.

When there were fewer groups blaming whitey for every thing there was less division.

With the increase in funding of every single grievance there has been a commensurate increase in the division.

Personally I do not hate people. I can dislike them intensely, but not hate in a way that takes over my mind and blinds me to things. I do not let anger do the same. The Aboriginal industry has given its nominal charges nothing but. It has not made them wiser, more complete, more detached, more responsible, not even more optimistic.

Just hate and anger.

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 7, 2023 9:31 am

Sometimes you should judge a book by its cover.

Indolent
Indolent
July 7, 2023 9:33 am

James Thorp MD
@jathorpmfm

My 44 years of Ob experience and my vast published experience (221 articles, including 48 on COVID-related topics) allow me to be certain. I am willing to bet my life on it and I offered to debate anyone in the world for the last 3 years. NOBODY to date has the ethical, moral, and intellectual integrity to debate me.

Pushing the Lethal mRNA vaccines in my pregnant patients constitutes the GREATEST violation of ETHICS in the history of humanity. The danger signals emanating from the VAERS and a myriad of other sources globally are unprecedented. The danger signals from my VAST experience of seeing nearly 27,500 patients in the last 4.5 years are unprecedented.

The Medical Industrial Complex #HHS #CDC #FDA #ABOG #ACOG #SMFM are all corrupt to the core as are their journals. They are likely bribed by the $13 Billion dispensed by Mark Weber Dep Sec HHS through the newly created COVID-19 Community Corp (CCC) in March 2021. They targeted about 300 “influencers” with the stated purpose of eliminating vaccine hesitancy by a $13 Billion bribe with a contract they would PUSH the lockstep narrative of HHS/CDC.

The American College of ObGyn (ACOG) was a founding member and have taken vast amounts of bribe monies (> $11M) from CCC not allowing them to deviate from the deadly HHS/CDC narrative. I have been honored and awarded by ACOG ABOG & SMFM (Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine), I served on the Board of Directors for SMFM. I testified in US Senate TWICE. The HHS CDC ACOG FOIA of 1400 pages are PROOF of this lethal & unprecedented PSYOPS campaign.

What has changed? NOBODY in the ENTIRE WORLD would have condoned pushing a highly novel experimental gene therapy in pregnancy 10 years ago and it would have been considered malpractice and may have resulted in criminal charges likely including jail time. It would’ve been considered patently absurd. Yet the band plays on. Not egregious enough? The Pfizer 3.5.6 internal document 2.28.2021 reported 1223 deaths just after less than 10 weeks of the rollout – the most lethal medical intervention EVER. This was buried and Pfizer attempted to hide this for 75 years.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 7, 2023 9:37 am

Gez I’m in Mildura to watch my son play interleague footy. Any cafes or pubs of note to have lunch?

Vicki
Vicki
July 7, 2023 9:49 am

Indolent – thank you for the posts of medico James Thorpe. Like Steve Kirsch he fruitlessly searched for anyone promoting the mRNA vaccines to debate him on their efficacy. But when Kirsch couldn’t get takers, in spite of offering literally a million dollars to do so (recall that he is a tech billionaire), it tells you what the vaccine promoters believe about the product …….

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 7, 2023 10:03 am

Gruinaid trying to resuscitate the flaccid, rotting worm infested corpse of the dial of dysentery..

A comment below the line struck me as quite good.

Having Fleabag in an Indiana Jones film is like thinking ‘People love Alan Partridge, lets put him in our remake of Schindler’s List’.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 7, 2023 10:04 am

Threads vs. Twitter: What’s the Difference?

The Instagram-linked app joins the crowded microblogging fray

If you’re wondering what it’s like to use the new Threads app, just close your eyes and picture Twitter but with a lot less Elon Musk—and that’s exactly the point.

Meta—owner of Instagram, Facebook and WhatsApp—on Wednesday launched its latest service, called Threads. While linked to Instagram (you even need an Instagram account to sign up for Threads), the new app’s primary focus is sharing short snippets of text. Users can post up to 500 characters or share videos up to five minutes long.

Welcome to Mark Zuckerberg’s new Metaverse. No virtual-reality spectacles or legless 3-D avatars here. Just good ol’ fashioned words…in a good ol’ fashioned social-media feed…on your good ol’ fashioned smartphone.

“There’s a hunger for something new,” Connor Hayes, Meta’s vice president of product, said in an interview. He added that public figures and creators have specifically been looking for an alternative to Twitter that “feels more productive and positive.”

Since Musk took over Twitter in October, the company has had numerous technical issues, changed its blue-check-mark verification policies and faced criticism from users and advertisers for how it moderates content. This past weekend, Musk limited how many posts users could see, saying he wants to combat “extreme levels of data scraping.”

That’s left a potential opening for competitors. There’s Mastodon, Bluesky, Spill. Is Threads any better than those? Are there privacy concerns—as with other Meta apps? Is it easy to set up and close a Threads account?

Can Twitter actually be beaten?

What is Threads? And how do I use it?

Threads is Meta’s latest social-media app, and this one directly takes on Twitter with short missives you can share with followers. It lets you post text, photos, links and videos.

Thanks to some serious Twitter copying and pasting, Threads is simple to use. Download the iOS or Android app and you’ll be prompted to log in with your Instagram account and fill out your Threads profile. You can choose to keep following the same people you follow on Instagram or pick just some of them—or none at all.

The Home tab includes a feed of posts. Tap the button with an abstract-looking paper and pen to compose a new Thread, and tap the paper clip icon to add a photo or video. You can mention other people by using the @ symbol in front of their usernames and “repost.”

The app is available in more than 100 countries, though not in the European Union.

Wait, I already have Instagram! Do I have to download a separate app?

You can’t join Threads without an Instagram account, but the new service operates as its own app. Do we really need another app on our phones? Nope, but here we are.

If you really don’t want to download another app, you can access the service from the Threads.net website, similar to how you can use Instagram in a browser. Hayes said there are no plans right now for a dedicated Mac or Windows app.

I tried Threads and want to delete it. What happens to my Instagram account?

Because of the Instagram integration, setting up Threads is fast and easy. Quitting it—not so much. You can’t completely delete your Threads profile unless you also delete your Instagram account, the app’s privacy policy says.

If you really don’t want to use Threads but want to keep Instagram, you can deactivate your account, which hides your profile, Threads, replies and likes. Deactivating Threads doesn’t impact your Instagram account.

Adam Mosseri, the head of Instagram, on Thursday said that because Threads is powered by Instagram, it’s currently one account. “But we’re looking into a way to delete your Threads account separately,” he said on Threads.

What does Threads have that Twitter doesn’t?

On the surface Threads is a Twitter clone, but dig deeper and you can find some real differences:

. Instagram integration: Because Threads is so closely linked to your Instagram account, you don’t have to start from scratch when it comes to finding your friends and others to follow. People you’ve blocked on Instagram will carry over, and you can share Threads to your Instagram Stories.

. Decentralized support: Threads will be compatible with ActivityPub, a decentralized social-networking protocol—the same one used by Mastodon. What does that mean? It is “decentralized” because hosting of accounts, including people’s followers, can be done on independent servers, rather than those operated privately by a single company. This is the way Meta currently runs Facebook and Instagram. Ultimately, it could give users more freedom to take their followers and information when they leave the service, and allows you to view posts from other social-media networks that support the protocol. There’s no specific date when ActivityPub will roll out, Hayes said.

. Rate limit: Twitter this past weekend limited the number of posts users can read to 600 a day for unverified accounts and 6,000 a day for those paying a monthly subscription fee. Threads imposes no limit or boundaries, whether you’re verified or not.

What does Twitter have that Threads doesn’t?

It takes just a few minutes of using Threads to see where Meta rushed things. “There are a bunch of features that are coming that weren’t quite ready for launch,” Hayes said.

Here are some features found on Twitter that we expect on Threads:

. Follower feed: Right now there is just the one main algorithmic feed, which includes posts from people you follow and others that are popular on the service. You can’t see a feed of just the people you follow or a purely chronological feed.

. Edit button: You cannot edit your posts after you’ve posted.

. Character count: How are we supposed to know when we’re blabbing away when there’s no indicator that you’re nearing the 500-character limit?

. Search: You can search for other accounts but not for words contained in posts. There is also no support for hashtags yet.

. Direct messaging: You can’t send private messages through Threads. You’ll have to head back to Instagram for that.

. Ads: There are no ads on Threads—at least for now. “The priority for this launch is to make the app as great as possible for consumers and creators,” Hayes said. “And we haven’t prioritized ads as a part of this.” (Translation: There will eventually be ads.)

Who is on Threads?

Well, us. (Follow WSJ here, Joanna here and Ann-Marie here!) But we certainly cannot sing like Shakira and Nick and Joe Jonas. Or act like Zooey Deschanel and Beanie Feldstein. Or tell jokes like Ellen DeGeneres and Jack Black. Or stream shows like Netflix or cook up burgers like Shake Shack. Or even take off into the skies like American Airlines. Big names and companies seem to be joining the service by the minute.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 7, 2023 10:19 am

If you’re wondering what it’s like to use the new Threads app

I hope threads is a massive failure, not just because Zukerberg is a psycho alien but because ill be able to make a pun about threads being nuked.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 7, 2023 10:22 am

Zuc alien
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P
July 7, 2023 10:42 am

Five years after the Royal Commission, govt schools come under scrutiny
By Monica Doumit – July 7, 2023

It would be terrible if a focus on the Catholic Church and other religious schools meant that the victim survivors in public schools were not given the opportunity to share their story publicly and, in doing so, encourage others to come forward.

It’s been just over five years since the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse handed down its final report and recommendations. The Royal Commission ran for five years and heard from around 8000 survivors of child sexual abuse. Of these, 35.7 per cent reported that their abuse occurred in a Catholic-run institution, while 32.5 per cent reported that their abuse occurred in a government-run institution. Despite the relative similarity in the proportion of allegations, the Catholic-run institutions were the subject of twice as many public hearings as the government-run ones, and no government-run school was considered during a public hearing.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 7, 2023 10:49 am

I think it is pretty obvious that Zuckerberg is an alien.

Remember when he was in the backyard throwing spears at creatures coloured in parts of the spectrum invisible to humans? And needing to wear hearing protection because their screams of agony are outside the human range of hearing?

And the alien technology has never been able to master replicating the human face.

But there is the clue: Any species (or group) when depicting others with different appearance will focus on what leaps out, in their mind, as strange. Hence Asians used to be drawn as having just slits instead of eyes. Someone might have looked at that, seen how those slits were useless for seeing and concluded the artists to have larger or rounder eyes. Look at how the Japanese drew the first Europeans they came across.

The aliens that made Zuckerberg’s mask have given it a blanched, featureless appearance. They eyes are wide set and ‘dead’. The mouth is just a wide slit without expression.

It is fascinating to speculate what his own species may look like.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 7, 2023 10:52 am

Black Ball
Jul 7, 2023 9:37 AM
Gez I’m in Mildura to watch my son play interleague footy. Any cafes or pubs of note to have lunch?

Sorry BB but I live a long way from Mildura.
I’m in the St.Arnaud – Donald – Charlton area.
All the best for your lad today.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 7, 2023 11:02 am

Black Ball
Jul 7, 2023 5:54 AM

Those champions of the downtrodden. Daily Telegraph:

Some Greens MPs who blocked Labor’s 30,000-home social housing fund hold property portfolios …

This has been an unpaid political adsvertisement for the Australian Labor Party [Authorised by Black Ball]

Spinning Mouse
Spinning Mouse
July 7, 2023 11:02 am

[The missing part is that, either there must be adequate supporting evidence for all these people to end up in jail, or not only are the public and the police wacsssssissst, but so too are the prosecutors who proceed with charges with inadequate supporting evidence, and also the judges and magistrates who impose the sentences.

All one huge conspiracy, is it? At least, that is what they are implying with these stories.]

Someone put up a link some months ago to an ABC story which concluded that ethnic/ aboriginal background offenders were LESS likely to go to jail for the same crime as a white offender.

It’s just that there are so many more ethnic/ aboriginal offenders than white offenders. Do the crime, do the time. No sympathy here.

Johnny Rotten
July 7, 2023 11:17 am

dover0beach
Jul 7, 2023 10:08 AM
Good morning, all. Just conducting a test.

Was this test authorised and overseen by the Teacher’s Union?

Vicki
Vicki
July 7, 2023 11:22 am

James Rickards on the scourge of Globalism:

GLOBALIST ELITES FEAR YOU
HARRY RICHARDSON
JUL 6

When the U.K. voted for Brexit in June 2016, the globalists were stunned. They couldn’t believe it. They then did everything they could to delay and fight Brexit.

Then when Donald Trump won the election as president in November 2016, the globalists were even more stunned. They went into complete denial and put their heads in the sand.

They comforted themselves with the convenient myth that Russian interference lost them the election, not a popular rejection of their ideology.

Yet it kept getting worse for globalists. Both China and Russia have become more nationalistic and completely turned their backs on globalism. The war in Ukraine has only intensified that trend.

The pandemic only strengthened the trend away from globalism, and the ongoing supply chain issues we’ve been seeing expose globalism’s fragile underbelly.

These chains may be efficient and economical, but when they break down, it has a rippling effect on the global economy. It’s like pulling on one strand on a carpet. The entire thing is affected.

“Tariffs Are as American as Apple Pie”

Globalists worship at the altar of free trade. But free trade is a myth. It doesn’t exist outside classrooms. France subsidizes agriculture. The U.S. subsidizes electric vehicles. China subsidizes a long list of national champions with government contracts, cheap loans and currency manipulation.

Every major economy subsidizes one or more sectors using fiscal and monetary tools and tariffs and nontariff barriers to trade.

America grew rich and powerful from 1787–1962, a period of 175 years, using tariffs, subsidies and other barriers to trade to nurture domestic industry and protect high-paying manufacturing jobs.

In fact, tariffs are as American as apple pie.

Beginning in 1962, the U.S. turned its back on a successful legacy of protecting its jobs and industry and embraced the free trade theory. This was done first through the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, or GATT, one of the original Bretton Woods institutions in addition to the World Bank and IMF.

Against the mercantilist system was a theory of free trade based on comparative advantage as advocated by British economist David Ricardo in the early 19th century. Ricardo’s theory said that trading nations are endowed with attributes that gave them a relative advantage in producing certain goods versus others.

These attributes could consist of natural resources, climate, population, river systems, education, ports, financial capacity or any other factor of production. Nations should produce those goods as to which they have a natural advantage and trade with other nations for goods where the advantage was not so great.

Countries should specialize in what they do best, and let others also specialize in what they do best. Then countries could simply trade the goods they make for the goods made by others. All sides would be better off because prices would be lower as a result of specialization in those goods where you have a natural advantage.

Works in Theory, Not in Fact

It’s a nice theory often summed up in the idea that Tom Brady should not mow his own lawn because it makes more sense to pay a landscaper while he practices football.

For example, if the U.K. had an advantage in textile production and Portugal had an advantage in wine production, then the U.K. and Portugal should trade wool for wine. But if the theory of comparative advantage were true, Japan would still be exporting tuna fish instead of cars, computers, TVs, steel and much more.

The problem with the theory of comparative advantage is that the factors of production are not permanent and they are not immobile.

If labor moves from the countryside to the city in China, then suddenly China has a comparative advantage in cheap labor. If finance capital moves from New York banks to direct foreign investment in Chinese factories, then China has the comparative advantage in capital also.

Before long, China has the advantage in labor and capital and is running huge trade surpluses with the U.S., putting Americans out of work and shutting down U.S. factories in the process.

Worse yet, countries such as China can pull comparative advantage out of thin air with government subsidies.

We’ve been living in a world where the U.S. has been a free trade sucker and everyone else breaks the rules. In a world where a few parties are free traders but most are mercantilists, the mercantilists win every time. They are like parasites sucking the free traders dry.

Globalization at All Costs

But to globalists, the moral arc of the universe bends in one direction, and that’s toward increasing globalization. Populism and protectionism are therefore moral evils that must be condemned.

But globalists have slowly realized that the nationalist trend is not an anomaly but a powerful force that is reversing globalist policies that have been ascendant since 1989, or even since the end of World War II, when institutions like the IMF and World Bank were established to promote globalist goals.

But right now, free trade is on the ropes, currency wars are rampant, there’s an actual war in Eastern Europe and geopolitical hotspots like Taiwan are becoming more dangerous.

What happened to globalism?

The globalist-in-chief is Columbia University academic Jeffrey D. Sachs. He led the charge for “market” solutions in Russia in the 1990s, which backfired into a takeover by oligarchs and the rise of Putin.

He also led the charge for “opening” China in the early 2000s, which led to the rise of Xi Jinping and the strongest form of Communism since the death of Mao Zedong.

Is Sachs willing to admit any mistakes? No. Like most globalists who are too arrogant to question their own worldviews and assumptions, Sachs instead says the problem is democracy itself.

Essentially, Sachs wants to abandon traditional voting in the U.S. and U.K. to create a system more favorable to globalists. Sure, you can let voters choose center-right candidate x or center-left candidate, who might be 10% apart on many issues. Neither of them will really rock the boat and have no fundamental disagreement with globalism in general.

Globalists Don’t Trust You

As far as globalists are concerned, voters cannot be trusted to vote on fundamental issues like Brexit. They also can’t be trusted to vote against presidential candidates like Trump. Such decisions should be beyond democratic control, globalists believe.

In fact, Time magazine ran an article gloating about how corporate and media elites essentially conspired to prevent Trump from winning the 2020 election.

Media refusal to cover the Hunter Biden laptop scandal was just one example. Former intelligence officials joined in by claiming it bore all the trademarks of “Russian disinformation.” Of course, we all know the laptop was real. But they wouldn’t allow it to influence the election.

Meanwhile, recent disclosures by Twitter revealed the extent to which the company worked with the federal government to censor viewpoints they didn’t like.

The bottom line is, when elites don’t like the potential outcome, just change the rules.

The Climate Change Trojan Horse

Another issue that unites globalists is climate change. Globalists argue that climate change is too important to trust to voters in individual countries. Climate change is the perfect cover for globalism because combating it requires an internationally coordinated policy run by elites.

Their real agenda is to define a “global problem” so they can advance “global solutions” such as world governance, world taxation and world rule by elites. It doesn’t matter that the actual science behind hysterical climate alarmism is extremely weak.

Unfortunately, the media, corporations, governments and international organizations are run mostly by globalists.

And many of them are working hard to silence dissent. We’re in a Brave New World.

Real Deal
Real Deal
July 7, 2023 11:22 am

Sometimes you should judge a book by its cover.

Good grief. The denizens of the Mos Eisley Cantina would run screaming from that freak show.

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 11:35 am

Of these, 35.7 per cent reported that their abuse occurred in a Catholic-run institution, while 32.5 per cent reported that their abuse occurred in a government-run institution.

In either case the RC was a sham. Anybody could’ve turned up and made up any story and there was no evidence required, no cross examination and no questions asked.

Its what the Voice will call “truth telling.”

Orwellian.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 7, 2023 11:36 am

Get unwoke go unbroke.

‘Sound of Freedom’ becomes top grossing July 4th movie, beating out Indiana Jones (6 Jul)

Angel Studios’ “Sound of Freedom” took the top spot in sales July 4th, surpassing Disney’s widely panned “Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny.” The action film starring Jim Caviezel is based on the true story of former federal agent Tim Ballard and his mission to save children from human trafficking. … The film has reportedly earned nearly all of its budget back on its opening day.

Jim Caviezel of course played Jesus in Mel Gibson’s movie, and he’s a proud Catholic rightie. Interestingly the movie was completed in 2018, but Disney bought 20thC Fox studio, and they refused to release the finished movie. Angel Studios fnally were able to buy it off Disney. So this a fine outcome, doubly nailing woke Disney flat.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 7, 2023 11:37 am

Here’s 6 minutes of Puzzlin’ Evidence-True Stories on YouTube
H/T Charles Pewitt /Unz Review

Chris
Chris
July 7, 2023 11:39 am

Reading the articles around on Robodebt.
We have to ask, are Liberal Ministers the only people involved? It reads to me more like ‘the Commonwealth Public Service are the enemies of ordinary people caught in their web’.
I once registered for Centrelink. After six months out of work, I got one payment. I went for a job interview, in and out of the country on a weekend, and never got another payment. Took another couple of months for the job to come through. The Commonwealth public service can go f*** themselves, they are not there to help.
Its a full time jerb just getting on the dole. Definitely not worth it. And they send you for these interviews with ’employment consultants’, in private companies that just say ‘Oh sorry we dont really have anything to help you with.’ KACHING! Another $125 to Kevin07’s missus.

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 11:40 am

You seriously telling me this bitch hires herself out as a professional speaker!!!?? I’m thinking about sending them a fake email to ask her to come and present and see how much she charges:

https://www.saxton.com.au/speakers/louise-milligan Blurb as follows:

Her work investigating the history of Catholic Cardinal George Pell – the third most senior figure in the Vatican – for the ABC TV 7.30 program and in Cardinal broke massive international news and led to Louise being a witness in the committal proceeding of Cardinal George Pell. That experience is documented in excoriating detail in Witness, along with the accounts of complainants of sexual crimes who also became witnesses in other trials.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
July 7, 2023 11:50 am

You seriously telling me this bitch hires herself out as a professional speaker!!!?

. And you can also bet that those organisations who do the hiring are paying with the taxpayers’ money or anyone who hires the ‘professional’ speaker would be using OPM.

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 11:52 am

Archbishop slams Synod on Synodality for contradicting Church Tradition, pushing ‘globalist Agenda 2030’

Thankfully, in most cases ,the Church has played the long game. When activists tell me that we’re “losing numbers,” I always retort: “We started with 12.”

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 7, 2023 11:54 am

Parliament House scandal as they continue to try to cover-up the alleged assault of Brittany Higgins

38 minutes ago from Kangaroo Court of Australia

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 11:54 am

And you can also bet that those organisations who do the hiring are paying with the taxpayers’ money or anyone who hires the ‘professional’ speaker would be using OPM.

I wonder if Saxton speakers don’t realise any reputational damage they’re doing to themselves by hiring out Milligan? For a job, YEARS ago I was directed to Saxon’s to get Dr Karl to an event; airfare, a night in a hotel, dinner all toward a 1 hour talk cost over $15K.

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 11:59 am

Amazingly short “bio” on wiki of Milligan:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Milligan

oh, but look the awardies:

Book awards
2017 Walkley Book Award, winner for Cardinal[17]
2018 True Crime and Debut, Davitt Award, shortlisted for Cardinal[18]
2018 Civic Choice Award, Melbourne Prize for Literature, winner for Cardinal[19]
2021 Victorian Premier’s Literary Awards, People’s Choice Award, winner for Witness[20] and Victorian Premier’s Prize for Nonfiction, shortlisted for Witness[21]
2021 Stella Prize, shortlisted for Witness[22]
2021 Colin Roderick Award, shortlisted for Witness[23]
2021 True Crime Davitt Award, winner for Witness[24]

All off the back of Pell. (yeah and I know the Leftists run wiki so there’s no point trying to edit the page).

JMH
JMH
July 7, 2023 12:00 pm

Re: the InVoice:

This is the Fair Australia website. You can pledge your vote and leave a donation, if possible.
https://www.fairaustralia.com.au/

Johnny Rotten
July 7, 2023 12:03 pm

As to the Robo Debt Royal Commission and Report, this is exactly why we need a Royal Commission into the Australian Feral, State and Territory Guv’ments handling of the Covid-19 ‘Scamdemic’. FFS.

Gabor
Gabor
July 7, 2023 12:05 pm

lotocoti
Jul 7, 2023 9:31 AM

Sometimes you should judge a book by its cover.

lotocoti, Really? Did you have to?

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 12:10 pm

The U.N. Is Planning To Seize Global ‘Emergency’ Powers With Biden’s Support:

https://thefederalist.com/2023/07/04/the-u-n-is-planning-to-seize-global-emergency-powers-with-bidens-support/

The proposal might be the biggest attempted power grab in the history of the United Nations. If approved, the United States as we know it could cease to exist.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 7, 2023 12:10 pm

Parliament House scandal as they continue to try to cover-up the alleged assault of Brittany Higgins

38 minutes ago from Kangaroo Court of Australia

Paid and authorised by Ed Case and Katy Gallagher

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 12:11 pm

Book awards
2017 Walkley Book Award, winner for Cardinal[17]

Should’ve added…. “Fictional Category”

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 7, 2023 12:12 pm

All good Gez. I trust you went to the meeting at Charlton Wednesday night regarding the transmission lines?

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2023 12:14 pm

Robodebt RC recommends criminal prosecutions – good.

This will be a test for our polity – poltiicians and public servants cannot be allowed to avoid accountability for illegal actions against citizens.

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2023 12:14 pm

“(yeah and I know the Leftists run wiki so there’s no point trying to edit the page).”

The same wikipedia that a Liberal opposition leader in Victoria relies on for “truth”.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 7, 2023 12:15 pm

Greens MPs who blocked Labor’s $10bn social housing fund hold property portfolios worth millions

Some of the Greens MPs who blocked a 30,000-home housing plan hold portfolios worth millions that could command up to $1000 a week in rent, official documents show

From the Hun.

bons
bons
July 7, 2023 12:22 pm

I overheard a devastating comment on Credilin last night that opened for me a further window into the ‘mind’ of Megan Markle.
“Markle viewed herself as competing with the queen”.
Pure narcissistic psychopathy, but made more terrifying by the number of grifters, wokesters and boosters who climbed upon her empty bus.
Apparently we have Kate to thank for forcing the royal family to put their foot down over the false racism claims. The commentator claimed that the Brits had already had enough and sought just a hint of leadership from the Royal Family in order to pull the rug on the creature.
I admit to being impossibly biased against Charles. But for him to have remained passive while his frail mother and father were accused of racism merely locks in my contempt for His Royal Weakness.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 7, 2023 12:22 pm

Kangaroo Court of Australia posted by Ed-Mong.

Its a self licking icecream cone of special needs.

Speedbox
July 7, 2023 12:23 pm

For those Cats with a lazy $60m and a undiminished yen to explore underwater (but only to the modest depth of 150m), AND take 10 of your best mates along in luxury, the latest offering from U-Boat Worx is the Nautilus – the world’s first superyacht submarine.

https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts-for-sale/nautilus-u-boat-worx

John H.
John H.
July 7, 2023 12:29 pm

Roger
Jul 7, 2023 12:14 PM
Robodebt RC recommends criminal prosecutions – good.

This will be a test for our polity – poltiicians and public servants cannot be allowed to avoid accountability for illegal actions against citizens.

They will fight tooth and nail Roger. Even at the hearings they had very expensive legal representation. We will be paying for their defense. This will go on for years. Civil actions will follow. I

The costs for legal representation at the robodebt royal commission are:

• $795,053 for Porter, the social services minister from 2015 to 2017

• $518,064 for Michael Keenan, the human services minister from December 2017 to May 2019

• $477,528 for Scott Morrison, the social services minister in 2014 and 2015

• $240,520 for Marise Payne, the human services minister from September 2013 to September 2015

• $183,835 for Stuart Robert, the human services minister from September 2015 to February 2016, then government services minister from 2019 to 2021

• $112,696 for Dan Tehan, the former social services minister

• $98,935 for Malcolm Turnbull, the former prime minister

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 12:29 pm

Your shout Speedbox? 😛

Johnny Rotten
July 7, 2023 12:31 pm

We’re in a Brave New World.

LOL. We are so far from that comment that it is not funny. Nothing brave at all and nothing new. The only appropriate word in that three word statement is “World”. FFS.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2023 12:31 pm

Lysander

Jul 7, 2023 12:11 PM

Book awards
2017 Walkley Book Award, winner for Cardinal[17]

Should’ve added…. “Fictional Category”

More than once I have relocated her book (and other similar tomes) to the fiction section in book shops.
Although maybe they do genuinely belong in the true crime section.

bons
bons
July 7, 2023 12:35 pm

The Voice pledge upthread does raise a frightening thought.
How safe would Jacinta be if the referendum gets up?

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 12:37 pm

Two things trending on twitter (and actually being reported by Lamestream):

– Cocaine found in a secure location of the White House, and
– Joe is going to make an announcement to send cluster munitions to Ukraine…

caveman
caveman
July 7, 2023 12:38 pm

Threads would be like a different pipe to slide into the sewer from.
Popcorn time watching Elon slug it out with Zack.
Fark they must chew through some coin

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2023 12:39 pm

They will fight tooth and nail Roger…This will go on for years.

It is to be hoped they have many sleepless nights ahead them, beginning tonight.

As to their legal fees being paid by the tax payer, that is not a given but will be at the Attorney-General’s discretion.

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 12:45 pm

As to their legal fees being paid by the tax payer, that is not a given but will be at the Attorney-General’s discretion.

Given former precedence, I expect the AG to offer them no funds if they decide to not turn up and defend themselves.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2023 12:50 pm

While fronting up to a commission of inquiry is par for the course for a government minister, defending criminal charges is quite another thing altogether, unless they’re going to argue that acting illegally is part of the job!

Crossie
Crossie
July 7, 2023 12:51 pm

Speedbox
Jul 7, 2023 12:23 PM
For those Cats with a lazy $60m and a undiminished yen to explore underwater (but only to the modest depth of 150m), AND take 10 of your best mates along in luxury, the latest offering from U-Boat Worx is the Nautilus – the world’s first superyacht submarine.

A bit overpriced. I went on a tourist submarine in Hawaii that went down to 120 feet (about 40 metres at most) for about $100US.

cohenite
July 7, 2023 12:57 pm

Trump says biden only became POTUS because he kissed obuma’s arse.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHv9-8YTfPc

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2023 1:00 pm

Bobs at 12:22.

“Markle viewed herself as competing with the queen”.

Of course she did.
She viewed the hereditary monarchy through the Hollywood soap opera lens.
(Admittedly there are enough superficial similarities which could lead to one making this mistake).
She became the star of the Regal show, which she imagined would fold without her.
And so she did what so many “stars” before her did. She started making demands and insisting on hogging the spotlight. If someone she views as a minor player (or, worse, a threat) gets too much time centre stage, or too many lines in the script, the claws come out.
I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that she saw herself leap-frogging the line of succession because of one season of good ratings.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 7, 2023 1:02 pm

What’s Affordable Housing?

Something built to lower standard in a flood prone area/ 50 kilometres from services/ in Marginal Liberal Seats and filled with tens of thousands of Labor voting droogs?

Speedbox
July 7, 2023 1:04 pm

Lysander
Jul 7, 2023 12:29 PM

I’m not much for underwater stuff. But, this one caught my fancy at a much more modest $10.975m. Still out of reach but there is another lotto draw coming up soon. Maybe……

Perhaps we could have a Cat get-together cruising the Whitsundays – what a hoot that would be!

https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts-for-sale/big-sky-oceanfast-2010

John H.
John H.
July 7, 2023 1:07 pm

Roger
Jul 7, 2023 12:39 PM
They will fight tooth and nail Roger…This will go on for years.

It is to be hoped they have many sleepless nights ahead them, beginning tonight.

As to their legal fees being paid by the tax payer, that is not a given but will be at the Attorney-General’s discretion.

I don’t think the AG wants to set a precedent that could have implications for his own side down the track.

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 1:11 pm

I’m not sure how it will all play out on Robodebt Roger. There used to be a thing called collective Ministerial responsibility and you have to take into account that it is very likely the proposal to proceed with it went to Cabinet…

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 1:12 pm

You’d also have to consider what the Dept of Human Services recommended as part of that Cabinet submission…

JC
JC
July 7, 2023 1:13 pm

Lysander
Jul 7, 2023 12:37 PM

Two things trending on twitter (and actually being reported by Lamestream):

– Cocaine found in a secure location of the White House, and
– Joe is going to make an announcement to send cluster munitions to Ukraine…

Okay, but are the two things related? Also. was the climate change impact discussed in terms of the cocaine found and the cluster bombs being sent?

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 1:19 pm

I presume the cluster bombs are net zero JC? 😛

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 1:21 pm

Burney can’t even say “constitutionally” – was she drunk at NPC speech???

Serious question.

JC
JC
July 7, 2023 1:25 pm

Lysander, we can’t assume that. Everything , even cluster bombs, needs to be carefully assessed for climate impact now. LOL

Have you seen the recent Bunter Hiden vids at the 4th July celebrations on the White House balcony as he’s messaging his hair and snorting up? Dr. Jill can’t stand him.

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 1:27 pm

Yeah JC… and yet he continues to get away with it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2023 1:28 pm

Speedbox
Jul 7, 2023 12:23 PM
For those Cats with a lazy $60m and a undiminished yen to explore underwater (but only to the modest depth of 150m

KD touched on the possible failings of Captain Hubris and the Titan Imploder 2.0 earlier today.
Just after it happened an amateur garage engineer here pointed at three suspects:-
.1 the under-specified porthole;
.2 the junctions between the titanium ends and the carbon fibre tube;
.3 the layup techniques used in the manufacture of the carbon fibre tube.
It appears the first two of that trifecta are now firmly in the frame, and it looks like we can add “carbon fibre material quality control” to point 3, as it appears some raw materials were out-of-life when used.

Johnny Rotten
July 7, 2023 1:31 pm

I just love this bit from the Robedebt Royal Commission Report –

“The departmental (Department of Social Services) word is “customer” but since the experience of those individuals during the Scheme had so little to do with
service it seemed appropriate to adopt a different term. The term “recipient” has been adopted in respect.”

What a most human Royal Commissioner. How refreshing.

So much for Customer Service. And ‘customers’, when you catch the train, tram, light rail, a bus or aplane, just remember that you are a customer and not a passenger…………..FFS.

JC
JC
July 7, 2023 1:31 pm

Lysander
Jul 7, 2023 1:27 PM

Yeah JC… and yet he continues to get away with it.

There are finger prints on the bag of coke. As if the Secret Service doesn’t have the finger prints.

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 1:33 pm

Apologies if mentioned earlier, but worth checking out Bolt’s “rant” on Trump Jnr visa to Australia… a lot of “funny buggers” going on there!!!

The Immigration Minister said (after all of the unusual visa approval delays) Jr “may have cancelled the event due to a lack of sales.” How the hell would he know!!!

Johnny Rotten
July 7, 2023 1:34 pm

Ed Case
Jul 7, 2023 1:02 PM
What’s Affordable Housing?

A tent, or, in your Case a shop front.

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 1:37 pm

Video from 2020 when Pat K got stuck into Bill Shorten for creating Robodebt:

https://twitter.com/1swinging_voter/status/1677099380913090561?s=51&t=TBTu6rLiQGJ84tMr30eGsw

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 7, 2023 1:43 pm

Article from the Oz – seems of the thirty billion or so quid that is spent, annually, on Aboriginal affairs, TWENTY SEVEN PERCENT gets through to the coal face….

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2023 1:47 pm

““Markle viewed herself as competing with the queen”.”

I don’t know whether Sparkle saw herself competing with the the late queen, but she most certainly thought she was going to be the “mini queen”, competing with and outflanking Wills and Kate. That became obvious pretty quickly. Sparkle viewed the royal family through a tinted celebrity lens, failing to understand, because she is Hollywood trash, that the pecking order in royalty isn’t just rigid, it’s indissoluble. That’s how most European royal monarchies have survived the centuries. Last year, Queen Margarette of Denmark stripped her second son’s children of their “prince” and “princess” title. It was a ruthless decision.

I never really understood why royals stays rigidly schtum when awful muck is said and spread about them but now I understand. It’s genius. What they did last year and early this year, when assaulted by the two Montecito whores with the release of the Netflix garbage, combined with the Royal Todger’s tedious book, “Spare”, was the right thing to do. Because it’s all backflipped so superbly on the two Montecito whores. They’re the ones now drenched in muck, people can’t stand them, they’ve lost gigs, even Spotify executives speak disparagingly of the two.

I suspect Kate is having the last steely laugh. Plus, whilst William might look like his mother, I think his personality is more Windsor than Spencer. And in Kate he has a woman who, behind the beautiful dresses and magnificent hair, is also made up of steel, much like the late Queen Mother.

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 1:57 pm

Good article on how indigenous lifespan, and other related factors, have improved over the last ten years (without a Voice):

https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2023/07/the-handy-malleability-of-malinformation/

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 1:58 pm

(I guess, though, the improvement in rates could also be due to more people “identifying” as Indigenous)

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 7, 2023 2:03 pm

Burney can’t even say “constitutionally” – was she drunk at NPC speech???

She’s on Psych Meds by the looks and sounds.

Having legs like an Elephant and knowing you’re a Token Aborigine can’t be good for self esteem.
Then there’s her upbringing: raised by a Great Aunt and Great Uncle who were brother and sister, that woulda been pretty weird.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 7, 2023 2:03 pm

From the “Quadrant ” article Lysander posted.

Also gone from the 2021-22 report is the chart showing that the single largest cause of indigenous deaths in custody is … crashing your car while attempting to avoid police custody. In other words: joy rides gone wrong. In the era of Black Lives Matter, this is definitely malinformation. No one should know that had indigenous Australians peacefully obeyed police orders to halt their stolen vehicles last year, the rate of indigenous deaths in “custody” would have been less than one-third the non-indigenous rate. Among indigenous people who die in actual custody (prison), most die of natural causes (more malinformation). It must be noted, sadly, that several indigenous prisoners commit suicide almost every year—albeit at a rate roughly half that of non-indigenous prisoners. Kudos to the Klansmen at the AIC for letting that dangerous fact slip through.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 7, 2023 2:04 pm

– Joe is going to make an announcement to send cluster munitions to Ukraine…

Usually when there is bad news they release another story to divert attention (such as the ongoing attempts to retrieve the already imploded Titanic submarine).

If they are talking about supplying the Ukes with clusterbombs without an unrelated diversionary story, you might conclude that the clusterbomb story is the diversion*.

Or, as I think increasingly to be the case, they are building the public case to dump Biden. The guy is an idiot chosen precisely because he knew his only hope of attaining high office lay in letting others pimp him out. The pimps don’t want him in their stable any more and he can’t do anything about it.

* I would point out that the diversion story does not need to be true. Just spectacular. Diverting.

Speedbox
July 7, 2023 2:12 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Jul 7, 2023 1:47 PM

100% over the target Cassie.

And I think you’re spot on about Kate. Behind the lovely smile and nice dresses, I think she is tough as nails. I suspect people who mess with her do so at significant risk to themselves.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 7, 2023 2:14 pm

Maddy
24 minutes ago
(Edited)
So if it is already known that only 27% of the $30 billion is going to
the Indigenous community, why has the relevant Minister (Burney) not done
anything about it?
Why has she not slashed the number of bureaucrats involved?
Surely that is her job.
And how do we know the Voice is not simply replacing one layer of bureaucracy
with another?
Legislating first is the only way.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2023 2:20 pm

I agree Cassie, I don’t think Sparkle thought she was going to knock Betty 2.0 off the throne, but I do think she thought she could queue-jump the line of succession in two ways.
Firstly, de-legitimising Phil and Betty by casting non-specific (but join the dots) accusations of racism around. I believe this started with the hot-gospel tub-thumper at their wedding.
Secondly was her ‘star power’ which would have the public clamouring for Ginge and Whinge to be installed as successors to the throne because, “like, if you don’t, we will, like, walk, and your Regal show will be, like, sooo screwed.”
I don’t know who was advising her, but whoever it was, they were poorly versed on the Monarchy and, in fact, the British public. Being a popular B-Grade Royal does not mean you have the support to sit in the big chair.

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 2:21 pm

The use of Cluster bombs are a violation of international human rights.

Since cluster munitions spread over a large area and often explode long after they are deployed, they can indiscriminately harm civilians, which Mr. Castner said was a violation of international humanitarian law and a potential war crime.

However, Russia, nor the Ukraine or the US have signed the banning treaty.

Speedbox
July 7, 2023 2:26 pm

Sancho Panzer
Jul 7, 2023 1:28 PM

With regard to the porthole, I recall that the manufacturer had certified it to about 1400m or thereabouts. Given that the sub would descent to over double that depth, I would have thought that was a ‘very significant’ factor to anybody with even a glimmer of risk assessment capacity.

We all accept assorted risks everyday but that sub was a death trap. The revelations to date tell us that catastrophic failure was inevitable – only a matter of time.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 7, 2023 2:32 pm

The Gruinaid does a review of “the sound of freedom” the movie about a bloke busting kiddie trafficker’s.

Surely everyone likes that, considering it was the basis of the rather successful “taken” series of films.
And its been a mild box office success, surely they love to see a plucky underdog kicking the behemoths like Disney in the ‘nads?

Following that money leads back to a more unsavory network of astroturfed boosterism among the far-right fringe, a constellation of paranoids now attempting to spin a cause célèbre out of a movie with vaguely simpatico leanings. The uninitiated may not pick up on the red-yarn-and-corkboard subtext pinned onto a mostly straightforward extraction mission in South America, pretty much Taken with a faint whiff of something noxious in the air. Those tuned in to the eardrum-perforating frequency of QAnon, however, have heeded a clarion call that leads right to the multiplex.


And in the kink of all conspiracy theories, its obviously a q anon based movie because it DOESNT use q-anon talikg points WAKE UP ShEEple!!!

The trafficking follows no motivation more elaborate than the servicing of rich predators, eliding all talk of body-part black markets and the precious organic biochemical of adrenochrome harvested as a Satanic key to eternal life. The first rule of QAnon: you don’t talk about QAnon where the normals can hear you.

They hate it, really, really hate this movie about kids being rescued from sexual servitude..

(Our hero Ballard, by the way, went on to found the paramilitary rescue squad Operation Underground Railroad, a group criticized as “arrogant, unethical, and illegal” by the authorities. But then, they would say that. They’re in on it, this goes all the way to the top, etc.)

The reviewers other articles…
https://medium.com/@Random_Nerds/a-guide-for-all-of-your-lgbtq-cinema-viewing-needs-30b41e5babd5

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 7, 2023 2:37 pm
duncanm
duncanm
July 7, 2023 2:37 pm

oops, even the ABC is noticing.

Earlier, the government was putting much faith in “the vibe” to carry the Voice …
Now, with polling showing support for the Voice slipping, the government is desperate to arrest the slide.

Kneel
Kneel
July 7, 2023 2:38 pm

“…was the climate change impact discussed in terms of the cocaine found and the cluster bombs being sent?”

I have scheduled a meeting to discuss the environmental impact of the cluster bombs – this meeting will take place in Hawaii, where we will have nightly meals specially imported from Italy, and breakfasts specially imported from Canada. Wine specially imported from France will be served with the night-time meal, while imported Colombian coffee and Californian orange juice will be served with breakfast.
I must warn you that it may take weeks for us to disentangle all possible environmental impacts of the cluster bombs, so be ready to make this sacrifice in the name of saving the planet. Due to security concerns, no remote access is available (no Teams, Zoom etc allowed), so see you there – and remember, you can bring your spouse and up to three children with you.

Vicki
Vicki
July 7, 2023 2:44 pm

I agree Cassie, I don’t think Sparkle thought she was going to knock Betty 2.0 off the throne, but I do think she thought she could queue-jump the line of succession in two ways.

I really think that just like Wallis Simpson, she just did not understand the Poms and the historical traditions of the monarchy. This ignorance was exacerbated by her own distorted perception of her own theatrical fame based, ironically, on make-believe in every possible way.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 7, 2023 2:46 pm

Canbra hospital must be trying to boost their image. Saw the Specialist early in the week, operating next week.

duncanm
duncanm
July 7, 2023 2:49 pm

Amazeballs… Clive Hamilton writes something I agree with.

Well done, Clive. Its good to see some on the left still value free speech.
Wake up, lefties, and reject wokeness

Opinions that are annoying, upsetting or infuriating are not necessarily intolerant or harmful, let alone “hateful”. They are an everyday part of living in a democratic society.

The only way to understand and effectively respond to opinions you don’t like is to first listen to them

Indolent
Indolent
July 7, 2023 2:52 pm

Dr. John Campbell interview

Viral vaccine paper, Dr Vibeke Manniche

Indolent
Indolent
July 7, 2023 2:55 pm

This is about the Lancet paper which was withdrawn within 24 hours.

Covid Vaccine Implicated in Most of the Deaths! – Pre-print paper Removed from Lancet!

Vicki
Vicki
July 7, 2023 2:57 pm

Amazeballs… Clive Hamilton writes something I agree with.

Duncan – I used to think the same about this inveterate Lefty. Then I read his book “Hidden Hand” – about the successful campaign of the Chinese CCP over many years to infiltrate all western governments and societies through “significant citizens”. It was, I think the first major book in Oz to lift the curtain on the extent and imminent danger of Chinese influence. This was soon followed, of course, by Hartcher’s books (particularly “Red Zone”) & others.

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 2:58 pm

“It’s currently at around 1.7. Below the 2.1 rate needed for a stable population. During the first three months of this year, the number of births in public maternity wards in New South Wales was the lowest since records began”

Jibbyjab?

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 3:01 pm

I’ve seen a video on twitter and I’m wondering if a Cat can verify. (I don’t have the link) But is a Liberal MP asking a Labour Minister “if Maoris are given preferential treatment when presenting at a hospital over a non-Maori?”

The Minister dodged the question, called the Liberal racist and then got thrown out by the Speaker 😛

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 7, 2023 3:01 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Jul 7, 2023 1:43 PM
Article from the Oz – seems of the thirty billion or so quid that is spent, annually, on Aboriginal affairs, TWENTY SEVEN PERCENT gets through to the coal face….

Those inner city homes, holiday houses and investment properties don’t pay for themselves, you know.

And some of the 27% would go on nice boats and top of the line SUVs for the time spent “on country”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 7, 2023 3:02 pm

And don’t forget the “executive” remuneration packages.

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2023 3:03 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
July 7, 2023 3:10 pm

duncanm
Jul 7, 2023 2:49 PM
Amazeballs… Clive Hamilton writes something I agree with.

Well done, Clive. Its good to see some on the left still value free speech.
Wake up, lefties, and reject wokeness

Opinions that are annoying, upsetting or infuriating are not necessarily intolerant or harmful, let alone “hateful”. They are an everyday part of living in a democratic society.

The only way to understand and effectively respond to opinions you don’t like is to first listen to them

Add in his two books on Chynerr, and it seems that Clive might be on the Pill.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 7, 2023 3:11 pm

Vicki

Snap re Clive H.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2023 3:11 pm

We all accept assorted risks everyday but that sub was a death trap. The revelations to date tell us that catastrophic failure was inevitable – only a matter of time.

Of course, no part of life is risk free, and we all take measured risks every day.
I agree with Rush’s general statement that engineering safety margins are conservative, but risk analyis always tries to factor in those two arms of the equation:-
1. The probability of an event occurring; and
2. The consequences of that event.
If 2. is giving you “loss of vehicle and death of all occupants”, you need to circle back as they say.
It would be interesting to see Rush’s risk analysis matrix. If it exists, I think it will be littered with glib and cursory references to “excessive design margins in materials” without actually making an attempt to quantify what that margin was, and what he was prepared to reduce it to.
Example. If the porthole testing indicated it had a 99% probability of failing between 3000 and 3500 metres, but the manufacturers wound back the rating to 1400 metres, did Rush know this and how did he factor it in, if at all?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 7, 2023 3:22 pm

And its been a mild box office success, surely they love to see a plucky underdog kicking the behemoths like Disney in the ‘nads?

It made back its production budget on its first weekend – about $15 million.

After that it is marketing and the proportion kept by the theatres.

It is pretty clear it is going to turn a nice profit for its investors.

Maybe the big studios could learn something. They have been making bigger and more spectacular movies with more and more special effects. They have become unmoored from human experience and reckoning, giving no weight to the deaths of millions.

There is more heart in the $15million movie Sound of Freedom than the preachy, girl-power, exhausted, cinematically clunky, and creatively bankrupt Indie 5.

cohenite
July 7, 2023 3:22 pm

duncanm
Jul 7, 2023 2:49 PM
Amazeballs… Clive Hamilton writes something I agree with.

Well done, Clive. Its good to see some on the left still value free speech.
Wake up, lefties, and reject wokeness

Opinions that are annoying, upsetting or infuriating are not necessarily intolerant or harmful, let alone “hateful”. They are an everyday part of living in a democratic society.

The only way to understand and effectively respond to opinions you don’t like is to first listen to them

The bald headed pratt has changed his tune:

https://theconversation.com/democracy-is-failing-the-planet-3832

duncanm
duncanm
July 7, 2023 3:24 pm

Very hard to engineer safety into carbon fibre – its the tiny voids that get you

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2023 3:26 pm

On the Titan Imploder 2.0 submarine, I can see Rush’s problem.
Previous ventures of this type were vanity projects where cost was an incidental consideration, or could be recovered through film rights etc.
Rush was trying to commercialise deep sea tourism as a profit making venture in his own right.
And that is where the competing objectives come into play.
As I understand it, the vessel relies upon it’s natural buoyancy to surface (after ditching ballast). I think the half rat-power props are largely for manoeuvring and not for propulsion to the surface. So it needs to be big to create that buoyancy. It also needs to be big to carry enough fare-paying passengers.
But building a traditional submersible pressure vessel that size uses a lot of heavy materials which contributes to the buoyancy problem.
So he was constantly chasing that weight, buoyancy, size, cost/revenue puzzle.
Which he lost.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 7, 2023 3:40 pm

frollicking,

Of course they hate it.

Half of the leftist luminaries from the US used to take special trips to an island – kids don’t grow on trees.

They are just learning the acronym MAPs.

And although they don’t know it yet, in about six months, they will be campaigning campaigning for pederasty.

Love is love.

And even a 5-year old is capable of love. If they say it, it is real.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 7, 2023 3:41 pm

There’s no Liberal Party in New Zealand, the Opposition is the National Party.

The Speaker is a Labour guy, but unlike the gay goitre making a farce of the job in Canberra, this guy has some sense of proper behaviour.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2023 3:43 pm

duncanm

Jul 7, 2023 3:24 PM

Very hard to engineer safety into carbon fibre – its the tiny voids that get you

Not a material I am familiar with, apart from knowing that when it fails, it fails spectacularly, and you don’t pick it up without gloves.
My limited knowledge of composites is that you need to be meticulous in managing the materials and conditions in the lay-up stage.
Example. I can remember an aircraft component made for Airbus in Australia which had tiny voids left in manufacture. A miniscule amount of condensation gets in.
Moisture freezes and expands at altitude.
Void gets a tiny bit bigger.
Repeat over hundreds of cycles and, voilá!
Delamination.
And yuuuuge warranty claim.

Speedbox
July 7, 2023 3:43 pm

Sancho Panzer
Jul 7, 2023 3:11 PM

Indeed. If the manufacturer’s engineering certified 1400m but had, say, a 125% design safety margin (ie 3,150m), they probably never imagined that some idiot would repeatedly (or even once) try for 175% of the rated maximum depth.

Titanic lies at around 3800m and the sub imploded at near that depth so, if nothing else (carbon fibre and/or titanium failure etc) the catastrophic failure of the porthole, sooner or later, was 100% certain.

As an aside, whoever were the second last people to go on that sub, or who were booked for the next adventure down to Titanic must be thanking their lucky stars. There but for the grace of God……

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 7, 2023 3:48 pm

Peter FitzSimons subpoenaed to produce documents relating to Brittany Higgins book deal

By remy varga
NSW Reporter
@RemyVarga
3:07PM July 7, 2023

Nine columnist Peter FitzSimons has been subpoenaed to produce documents relating to a book deal he helped secure for former ministerial staffer Brittany Higgins believed to be worth $325,000.

Attempts will also be made to subpoena ABC journalist Laura Tingle and publisher Random House for the production of documents in the defamation action brought by former parliament staffer Bruce Lehrmann against Network 10 and the ABC.

The Federal Court heard on Friday that Parliament House no longer had CCTV footage capturing the evening before Ms Higgins’ alleged Mr Lehrmann raped her in the ministerial office of then cabinet minister Linda Reynolds after a night out drinking with colleagues in the early hours of March 23 in 20

Sue Chrysanthou SC, who is acting for The Project host Lisa Wilkinson, questioned whether Ms Higgins’s book deal was relevant, given it was secured after the former staffer went public with allegations of rape in February 2021.

FitzSimons, who is married to Wilkinson, helped Higgins secure the book deal.

“How is it … a book deal has anything … or could possibly have anything to do with [Ms Higgins’] credit,” she said.

Judge Michael Lee said the book deal was sufficiently relevant to the defamation proceedings and allowed the subpoena.

Mr Lehrmann, who has consistently denied the allegations, is suing Network 10 and Wilkinson over an interview with Ms Higgins that aired on The Project in February 2021 detailing allegations of rape but not naming Mr Lehrmann as the alleged attacker.

Mr Lehrmann is also suing the ABC over the broadcast of a ­National Press Club address given by Ms Higgins, and Justice Lee on Friday stood over a subpoena for Tingle, who hosted the club address on February 9 last year, to produce documents.

The press club promoted sales of tickets to the address that ­referred to Ms Higgins’ decision to “publicly allege she was raped by a colleague inside Parliament House”.

Mr Lehrmann has claimed the ABC broadcast the press club event with “an improper motive”, namely to prejudice upcoming criminal proceedings against him, and that the broadcaster’s recklessness was so extreme that it amounted to “wilful blindness and constituted malice”.

Ms Chrysanthou said on Friday that the Department of Parliamentary Services said it had no CCTV to produce in response to a subpoena, something the defamation barrister said was concerning.

“We think there should be some explanation as to why that material hasn’t been produced,” she said.

The high-profile trial against Mr Lehrmann was aborted due to juror misconduct, with ACT ­Director of Public Prosecutions Shane Drumgold announcing on December 2 that he would not pursue a second trial, citing concern for Ms Higgins’ mental health.

Mr Lehrmann had pleaded not guilty to charges of rape and recklessness as to whether Ms Higgins had consent, denying any sexual activity had taken place at all.

Last month Mr Lehrmann dropped legal action against News Corp over articles written on new.com.au.

The matter will next appear before the Federal Court on July 17 for a case management ­hearing.

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2023 3:48 pm

“Maybe the big studios could learn something. “

Maybe, but I doubt it. There will only be change when when the big studios are de-woked, and de-wokening will only happen when they’re faced with financial collapse.

Kneel
Kneel
July 7, 2023 3:49 pm

“How do cluster munitions help Ukraine achieve its operational goals?”

Before you can answer that, you need to know what those goals are.

Given the “piggy bank” nature of Ukrainian influence on US politicians (both sides), and the Military Industrial Complex’s deep involvement in US politics as well, together with the apparent “puppet” nature of the current Ukrainian president, that’s hard to disentangle, other than to say the goal is to make the rich richer at any cost.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 7, 2023 3:57 pm

Speedbox

Jul 7, 2023 3:43 PM

Indeed. If the manufacturer’s engineering certified 1400m but had, say, a 125% design safety margin (ie 3,150m), they probably never imagined that some idiot would repeatedly (or even once) try for 175% of the rated maximum depth.

Quite so.
And the key word is “repeatedly”.
As you say, the last guys who got out of this suicide bucket shouldn’t bother buying a lottery ticket.
They’ve used their luck.
And that’s the thing.
In aerospace they measure Mean Time Between Failures (MBTF) in tens of thousands of flight cycles.
In deep sea submissibles (deliberate), because of the immense pressure differentials, those numbers can be counted on your fingers and, in fact, some would specify some of these vehicles as single-use disposables.
It is one thing to know the engineering safety margins. It is another to carefully calculate the consequences of consistently pushing those limits.
I doubt Rush did those calcs.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
July 7, 2023 4:00 pm

Man handed a community order, woman handed something less palatable. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-66110697

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 7, 2023 4:01 pm

Judge Michael Lee said the book deal was sufficiently relevant to the defamation proceedings and allowed the subpoena.

Who knows how this will all end up.
But it is delicious to see some of these parties put through a very public wringer.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 7, 2023 4:04 pm

As we have seen from leaked messages & videos, it demonstrates just how arrogant they all were/are.
Look out if they’ve deleted records.

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