Joe Biden will NOT be the Democrat nominee. Splay some bets on “anyone but” whilst the odds are still good. Newsom is good value @ 7/1, but there are plenty of others @ longer odds. It won’t be Joe. He’s as good as gone.
When you despise the nation you are supposed to be representing they celebrate your humiliation. The fact that America hating Rapinoe is the one who actually screwed the pooch is icing on the cake.
If you’ve ever been to Fatima you would know how big that central area is.
Ditto seeing one and half million on the bank of the Targa. world youth day in Portugal
Rosie
August 7, 2023 6:20 am
The Australian, paywalled.
Notice how the msm never seem to suggest Andrews has a women problem.
“Because small donors are a proxy for enthusiasm, if people aren’t concerned about the drop-off in contributions, then they just aren’t paying attention or whistling past the graveyard.”
Reports indicate that Biden has only 7 staff members on his reelection campaign team at the moment with 3 of them being hired late last month. That’s quite a shoestring operation for a national campaign, which begs all sorts of questions.
Curiouser and curiouser.
A prominent left-wing organization laid off half its staff last month, a further sign that Democratic groups are struggling to stay afloat. The group works to help elect far-left candidates and is largely credited with helping create the “Squad” of House lawmakers that includes Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.) and Ilhan Omar (D., Minn.).
Mother Lode
August 7, 2023 6:57 am
Well, blow me down!
You know that old Peter Gabriel song Games Without Frontiers?
You know the backing vocal seeming to go “She’s so popular”?
It is not. The woman is singing “Jeux sans frontières” – French for ‘games without frontiers’.
And bonus points: the backing vocalist was Kate Bush.
I can’t wait to tell Alex the Seal.
calli
August 7, 2023 7:11 am
Looks like Broelman has amnesia on “mobs” and the USA.
I seem to recall entire towns burning, shots fired, people murdered and innocents imprisoned during 2020. Antifa and BLM.
Bush and Gabriel did a couple of collaborations. I enjoyed “Don’t Give Up” very much, the hardest thing is to keep on going after your world falls apart.
From the dead thread, thanks Slackster for that trip down Memory Lane with Aggro and Ann-Marie. She was a real champion. No, it couldn’t be done today because TV wymmyn are so protective of their veneer of faux dignity.
How long does this media luv-fest for the YES mob last? .. regardless of anything else the one stand-out of all the YES/NO arguments has gotta be … the gucci gnome and the fact she is totally out of her depth as a $400 000 plus minister for anything! ..
there is nothing coming out of the YES side of the equation for “improvement” of life for 251s that isn’t/shouldn’t be already covered by the $39billion a year or the hundreds of hanger-on 251, exclusive, operations now on the OPM teat ….
So, instead of spending her time galavantin’ around Oz and spruiking the company line why isn’t she in her ministerial office (great place for 251 HQ .. lotza, needy, 251 tribes around Canberra!) sorting out where all the OPM is ACTUALLY going! .. FFS!
Zatara
August 7, 2023 7:51 am
Wow.
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
If you were unfairly treated by your employer due to posting or liking something on this platform (twitter), we will fund your legal bill.
From the Old Fred…
Sancho Panzer
Aug 6, 2023 9:57 PM
Anyway, after dinner I cheered her up. We sat and watched all four episodes of Muster Dogs, which is now on Netflix. My mother adores dogs, she grew up with kelpies and cattle dogs.
That was a top show, although I got a bit cranky at the gentleman farmer from Victoria who had a “difficult” dog.
No, fckwit.
You were given a well bred dog which was smart, but a little bit headstrong. It could have become a top class working dog, but you knew better than the expert training advice you were given.
But, all things considered, a good show.
Dogs are the best people ever.”
Yes, a top show. And Mum and I both said the same about the gentleman farmer from Victoria. The good thing was that Luce (Lucifer) found a top home with Frank from Northern Queensland.
And yes, dogs are the best people ever!
calli
August 7, 2023 7:54 am
Yikes! Does that apply to Christopher Pyne too?
Or did he just get a free pass because “hacked” ? 😀
Farmer Gez
August 7, 2023 7:58 am
Thanks for the wind turbine story Rosie.
There are no licensing or rules in place to stop renewable companies from prospecting for sites wherever they like.
It’s not an oversight but a deliberate policy to allow accumulation of land that then justifies transmission lines being built to connect the rent seekers to the trading floor run by AEMO.
It’s akin to building a factory in the middle of nowhere and then claiming the government has to fund a connecting road.
BTW – don’t call these monstrosities “farms”
calli
August 7, 2023 8:02 am
Intermittent Energy Collection Points.
Farmer Gez
August 7, 2023 8:11 am
Intermittent Electrical Subsidy Accumulators.
H B Bear
August 7, 2023 8:17 am
The early edition of the
Green Left Radio (now Half) Hour formerly known as AM
struggling to put a post Garma spin on the Voice for the ALPBC.
Rosie
August 7, 2023 8:19 am
Intermittent taxpayer funding farms.
Rosie
August 7, 2023 8:22 am
That story also illustrated the constant infighting that occurs in the Aboriginal community.
Quite possibly Aboriginal Corp A has garnered a nice whack of consultation fees and possibly an ongoing percentage from the wind farm operations and family mob B are aggrieved that they haven’t.
Here are some crucial facts you should know about the far Left, Trump-hating judge, Tanya Chutkan, who was purportedly “randomly assigned” by a computer algorithm to the Jack Smith case:
-Barack Obama nominated her to the federal bench on the US District Court for D.C. in 2014.
– In 2021, she denied President Trump’s attempt to protect his White House records from the House select committee that investigated the Jan. 6 attack, expressly violating his executive privilege, attorney-client privilege, and a litany of other bedrock constitutional rights, ruling that President Trump did not have the power to prevent the disclosure.
-Chutkan has been extremely, mercilessly harsh on January 6th victims. She was the only judge in Washington, D.C., a city teeming with left wing Obama and Biden appointed judges, who has given Jan. 6 defendants sentences that are longer than those requested by the Justice Department.
-Chutkan emphatically does not believe in the First Amendment. She has stated that the mostly peaceful January 6th protestors who assembled on Capitol grounds were “not exercising their First Amendment rights,” even though they absolutely were. Moreover, she characterized the events of that day, without any evidence, as “a violent attempt to overthrow the government,” even though that was never, ever the intent, let alone even a realistic consideration, of anyone who showed up on Capitol grounds that day.
-Chutkan has made no pretenses about her complete and utter contempt for President Trump, once stating “Presidents are not kings, and [Trump] is not President.”
Trump is 100% correct: it is so obvious that Jack Smith and the deep state plotted to bring on arguably the most vindictive, anti-Trump judge in the country to “try” this case. There is no way President Trump can get a fair hearing with Chutkan, who is a cutthroat political operator that only cares about prosecuting political enemies, and not the Constitution or rule of law.
President Trump’s team has strong authority to ask for a recusal at an absolute minimum, and really, his legal team should file a motion to change venue outside of D.C. entirely if there is any hope at all of having a fair judge and jury assigned to a case that a fair judge would in reality dismiss right off the bat.
Albanese urged to protect Indigenous heritage after Western Australia scraps laws
Exclusive
By sarah ison
Political Reporter
@@sarsison
and paige taylor
Indigenous Affairs Correspondent, WA Bureau Chief
@paigeataylor
Updated 6:28AM August 7, 2023, First published at 9:30PM August 6, 2023
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Western Australia’s Indigenous leaders are demanding Anthony Albanese intervene and give stronger protections to their sacred sites, as they say the state Labor government has “betrayed them” with its sudden decision to scrap controversial heritage laws.
As support for an Indigenous voice to parliament plummets in the west and the Yes campaign hails the mooted removal of the WA Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act as the right step, the state’s leading Aboriginal advocates and native title lawyers say the reforms were “wrongly conflated” with the referendum and governments supporting a voice had failed to listen to them.
The Australian understands WA Aboriginal Affairs Minister Tony Buti told top stakeholders on Friday the government intended to scrap the existing WA Aboriginal cultural heritage laws and reinstate the 1972 laws they replaced, though with some amendments.
The Coalition on Friday said it was clear WA Labor realised the laws were turning West Australians against the voice, with one senior Liberal calling on Premier Roger Cook to sack Mr Buti.
While the Prime Minister and members of his ministry refused to comment on the WA government’s move to scrap the heritage laws – due to be rubber-stamped at a state cabinet meeting on Monday – WA activists said the federal government had to use its powers to step in.
Both Labor and pro-voice activists have tried over the past month to separate the referendum from the growing controversies over heritage laws and Aboriginal treaties.
On Sunday, Mr Albanese told The Australian voters had nothing to fear from the second part of the Uluru Statement from the Heart – a proposed Makarrata Commission that would lead agreement-making and is referred to as treaty for short – as any outcomes would be mutual and not imposed.
“The very word Makarrata is something that no one should have any fear over because by definition, it’s about consensus and working together, and that is something that we need to do as a nation,” he said.
National Native Title Council chair Kado Muir said the state government has caused “uncertainty … confusion and fear” and he would now look to the federal government for a stronger cultural heritage regime.
While critical of the 2021 legislation, implemented within 18 months of Rio Tinto’s destruction of Juukan Gorge, Mr Muir said he was concerned there was now a situation “where cultural heritage in Western Australia will not be protected”.
“This has all been implemented on an ad hoc basis and with kneejerk reactions,” he said.
“What this demonstrates is a very clear signal that we need more national standards and a national approach to cultural heritage protection in this country.
“It seems the government has lost control of the ability to protect cultural heritage in Western Australia and so our next resort is to go to the federal government.”
The new WA laws were to apply to properties of more than 1100sqm, and would introduce a three-tiered system imposing obligations on landholders. Farming groups had become increasingly concerned with the application of the laws, and a protest was planned to take place outside state parliament on Tuesday.
Leading Aboriginal heritage lawyer Greg McIntyre, who prosecuted the Mabo case in the High Court, said the laws had not been “working in the way which is compatible with good governance”, and he urged the Albanese government to use its powers under the federal Heritage Act to fill the gap left by “ineffective” state legislation.
“The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Heritage Protection Act of the commonwealth is probably designed for events such as this. Because what it does is it comes into play where state legislation has demonstrated to be ineffective and that’s one of the preconditions for the federal minister exercising power under that legislation,” Mr McIntyre said.
“We do have federal legislation to fall back on and one would hope that the federal minister will recognise that and act appropriately.”
International human rights lawyer Hannah McGlade, an Indigenous woman, said it would be “unacceptable” for the WA government to revert to the original heritage Act and was critical of the WA government supporting a voice to parliament, while failing to listen to Indigenous Australians on cultural heritage.
Rosie
August 7, 2023 8:34 am
Gez is looking at
Transient
Highwire
Energy
Farm
Transmissions
Crossie
August 7, 2023 8:35 am
Zatara
Aug 7, 2023 7:51 AM
Wow.
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
If you were unfairly treated by your employer due to posting or liking something on this platform (twitter), we will fund your legal bill.
No limit.
Please let us know.
As somebody has already pointed out, he says one thing while his newly appoint CEO of X Twitter keeps on censoring whatever and whomever she doesn’t like. It’s a scam. Besides, he needs the Deep State to keep giving him rights to rocket launches.
calli
August 7, 2023 8:35 am
And there I was trying to be subtle and sly about the bird mincers.
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 7, 2023 8:36 am
Merlin
1 hour ago
If people in the city were fair dinkum about sharing Australia with some ancient aboriginal ways, any cultural heritage laws would apply to all of us equally. That is, they would apply to every single bit of land in Australia, not just ‘out there in the country’. Why should ordinary Australians, who have purchased their land in good faith, pay for the ‘guilt’ of some privileged people who live in certain suburbs in the cities?
I can just hear those ‘dumbentsia’ living in Glebe or Newtown or on the North Shore or the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney saying ‘oh no, those laws can’t apply to MY house, or MY land, only to the land ‘out there’, I want to MAKE the laws, not have to abide by them’. But if Australia is a democracy and a land of decency then the laws apply to all of us or none of us.
In actual fact it is impossible to have the system of laws applying to land ownership we currently have overlaid by arbitrary ‘cultural’ laws that have no system, nor equity in how they are applied. This would leave us all open to coercion and bribery in order to get anything done. We have seen this happen ‘out there’ (we happen to live ‘out there’) and it won’t be pretty, nor workable. City dwellers need to think very hard before they wave their hands glibly and say ‘laws can apply ‘out there’ but not to us in the cities’.
hzhousewife
August 7, 2023 8:40 am
Chutkin should recuse HERSELF if she has integrity.
There is no ‘working together’ in cultural heritage laws.
There was one side, landowners, totally under the thumb of the other, Aboriginal Corporation, with no negotiation on how much they would be required to pay, how long it would take, what the results might be, or without any recourse to an independent authority.
All for a bit of stone age rubbish.
How many knapped flints do you need?
Juukan Gorge was a sheltering place, if every place Aboriginal people stopped and made camp is sacred, the word sacred is robbed of all meaning and all of Australia is potentially at risk of being declared such a site, if it only takes a single stone.
There are plenty of city blocks over 1100 square metres, at least four members of my immediate family live in metro Melbourne on such blocks, including me. I’m sure the consternation and subsequent backtracking in WA is because so many people were affected by the new legislation.
Incidentally those cackling on about wise rural and dumb urban will hopefully shut up if the referendum goes down in a screaming heap.
They might even need to thank those city sheeple.
Gilas
August 7, 2023 8:53 am
Mr Albanese was confident the referendum would find momentum in the “final period” before the vote, widely anticipated to take place in mid-October.
The date is the 14th of October.
The AEC provided this date, as well as the pre-polling dates and sites to the NO campaign at least 2 weeks ago.
It hasn’t yet been gazetted, presumably because the spittle-flecked trot is still sweating on the numbers and may yet cut his losses first.
Morty O’Reilly
2 hours ago
There’s a British bloke on YouTube who walks around Oslo with a bucket asking Norwegians if they’d like to put some money in as reparations for what the Vikings did to his ancestors. Most of them realise it’s a prank.
Chutkin should recuse HERSELF if she has integrity.
Like Obama himself, most the people Obama nominated to higher courts from 2008 to 2016 are fully committed communist revolutionaries with no morals or personal behavioural stands we would be familiar with.
Obama’s judges — especially the females — are a dangerous breed of feral dog.
In his statement, Shane Drumgold said that he has been “driven by a burning fire within, lit by an early life spent surrounded by the pain of chronic inter-generational social injustice”.
To allude to that background, given the misconduct uncovered by Walter Sofronoff KC, will be seen by many as an affront to the most vulnerable citizens.
Mr Drumgold, who grew up in a housing commission estate and reached the highest legal position in his territory, should have understood that the poor and disadvantaged are no match for the power and resources of the state.
Our criminal justice system is premised on foundational, non-negotiable principles – presumption of innocence, a fair trial and due process – to protect every citizen, and especially the most vulnerable, against the abuse of state power.
When a DPP misbehaves in office, vulnerable citizens are most at risk. While no one should need a team of brilliant defence lawyers to fight off efforts by a DPP to withhold evidence, the poor are especially in danger of missing out on a fair trial.
The ACT government should not have accepted Mr Drumgold’s resignation. They should have sacked him.
Mr Sofronoff KC’s findings were no surprise. Not after Mr Drumgold’s days in the witness box during the May public hearings. Each day was riveting as the territory’s chief prosecutor had to be dragged into admitting that he misled a judge, maligned a Liberal minister, failed in his prosecutorial duties, made baseless allegations against police, and was involved in drafting an affidavit that made a false claim in order to withhold material from a defendant facing jail if found guilty of rape.
Mr Drumgold says these were all mistakes, explained as part of our adversarial
criminal justice system. What tosh. This fits the portrait of a man who remains deeply deluded about the import of his misconduct. This lack of self-awareness is dangerous in a DPP.
Even if, contrary to Mr Sofronoff’s findings, Mr Drumgold’s misdeeds were mere mistakes, all the more reason that he should have been removed from this powerful role as soon as the Chief Minister read the report. Andrew Barr knew what was coming. All he needed to do was watch Mr Drumgold’s evidence.
Sacking Mr Drumgold would have signalled that the ACT Labor government expects the person who holds the highest prosecutorial office in the territory to uphold their duties to the very highest standard.
Instead, they allowed Mr Drumgold to resign, with the obvious question of what’s next for their former prosecutor? A financial settlement?
If Mr Drumgold walks away with any kind of financial settlement after this debacle, you have to wonder what it takes to be terminated for misconduct in the ACT. You would also have to ask whether any financial settlement says the ACT government condones his actions. If the government implicitly condones Drumgold’s behaviour, God help any accused person in the ACT.
The swine flu jab rollout was halted in Europe when it became known that there were special batches for VIPs and Government people. Same thing happed with the great plandemic but no halting of distribution. Pfirus execs confirm special batches…
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 7, 2023 9:07 am
Jihadi bride officially an Aussie again
Ellen Whinnett
Ellen Whinnett
Australia’s first jihadi bride, Zehra Duman, has had her Australian citizenship formally restored by the High Court – and the taxpayer ordered to pay her legal fees.
The former Melbourne schoolgirl became a high-profile online cheerleader for ISIS after moving to Syria in 2014 to marry Melbourne jihadist Mahmoud Abdullatif.
One of only about two Australian women to lose her citizenship, she was notified in 2019 that her Australian statehood had been stripped as a result of her membership and support of ISIS.
She lodged an appeal in 2020, but the case was not formally resolved until last week, when the High Court signed off on a consent order which read: “The court declares that the first plaintiff is an Australian citizen.’’
The defendant – the Commonwealth of Australia – was ordered to pay her legal fees.
Duman had lodged the application for herself and her young son and daughter.
Indolent
August 7, 2023 9:08 am
Dr. John Campbell on Senator Canavan in Senate enquiry.
Janet is spot on, again.
Exactly my concern regarding defendants without deep pockets or generous benefactors.
For the humble, interactions with the police and DPP are like being slowly crushed by a steam roller, once the machinery of government goes into gear.
They have unlimited funds, time and other resources at their disposal.
And Drumgold had the gall to talk about being a pack outsider growing up.
Calare MP Andrew Gee, from western NSW, quit the Nationals because of their stance on the upcoming referendum on the Indigenous voice to parliament.
Speaking on a panel at Garma, the Yolngu cultural festival held in northeast Arnhem Land in the Northern Territory, Mr Gee said if the referendum failed the coalition would lose a large swathe of voters and risk losing more seats to so-called teal independents.
“A lot of the entrenched opposition is misguided politics,” he said on Sunday.
“If the conservative side of politics thinks that opposing the voice in the way that they are – for example labelling the voice Orwellian – if people think that is the way to political salvation, they’ve got rocks in their head.
“It’s the road to political ruin.”
Um…it’s basically 55% NO in all States bar QLD and 63% NO in QLD.
The upside is he won’t get elected again and it won’t necessarily be the Nationals who win his seat in the NSW LA.
This is the proposed “Voice”, or what would be s 129 of the Constitution.
129 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice
In recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia:
1. There shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice;
2. The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples;
3. The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its the composition, functions, powers and procedures.
—————-
It is totally unnecessary and just makes the Commonwealth more powerful for the sake of it.
Rosie
August 7, 2023 9:17 am
It is true that quite a few rusted on Labor supporters will be voting no but painting the public voting no to the Invoice as likely to see a big swing from the Liberals to the teals?
Actually.
Who cares if it does?
Rosie
August 7, 2023 9:20 am
I wonder if Elbow and Linda are drafting homilies/sermons for faith groups to deliver in the run up to the referendum?
He certainly seems to be expecting some thundering from the pulpit.
After claims made by Prime Minister Albanese to
@PatsKarvelas
and
@BenFordhamLive
, downplaying Labor’s support for a race-based federal treaty, I thought I would share the following footage of Mr Albanese in the House of Representative saying:
“The voice must be followed by truth-telling, because, until we acknowledge the reality of our history, we are shackled to its demons. And truth must be followed by a makarrata commission. Makarrata is about conflict resolution, justice and, crucially, self-determination. It’s a path to a NATIONAL TREATY that acknowledges the pre-existing rights of people in a land where sovereignty was never ceded and acknowledges that we are on what is Aboriginal land—always was, always will be.”
Dumbgeld, who grew up in a housing commission estate
Of course he did.
Zatara
August 7, 2023 9:40 am
Trump is facing trial for claiming the last presidential election was fraudulent.
Funny how that has suddenly become illegal as the last time the Democrats admitted that a Republican had legitimately been elected president was in 1988.
The legal group supporting him, Alliance Defending Freedom UK, said Aug. 4 that Smith-Connor is expected in the Bournemouth Magistrates’ Court on Aug. 9, where he will plead not guilty.
Smith-Connor had approached a British Pregnancy Advisory Service abortion facility in Bournemouth intending to pray for his unborn son, who had died in an abortion he helped procure at a similar facility more than two decades ago.
Really quite extraordinary. The other thing to note from the article is that by safe zone what they mean is protecting those working or using the facility from “acts of disapproval”.
Dumbgeld, who grew up in a housing commission estate
This is gettingh roolly annoying .. giving, us, “housos, a bad name they is , Luigi & now Shane ……..Duuuuuuuh!
Barking Toad
August 7, 2023 10:12 am
Luigi & now Shane ….
Don’t forget that cricketer bloke
Black Ball
August 7, 2023 10:15 am
Australia as you once knew is finished. But you know that. Daily Telegraph:
Foreign-owned wind and solar power companies are tearing farming communities apart in a mad scramble to cash in on Australia’s dash to renewable power.
Farmers who have lived and worked side-by-side for generations are no longer speaking after one leases their land for a wind or solar farm leaving the other to stare at acres of solar panels.
Former deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce has condemned the rush to renewables as a “great energy swindle” that will see profits going overseas and Australians picking up the bill for higher energy prices.
“It has completely divided the community,” he said.
“One group makes money out of solar and wind being on their land and the next group then has to deal with a complete change to look at what is basically an industrial landscape.”
He said farmers were left thinking “not only does it diminish the value of my property, not only is it a complete imposition on my land, it’s also further foreign ownership of my nation.”
Research shows that companies putting foreign-made solar panels and wind turbines on Aussie farms come from countries including Singapore, China, France, Denmark, Canada, Korea and Saudi Arabia. All their profits go overseas.
“What is driving this is not people’s desire to cool the planet but people’s desire to make a shitload of money,” Mr Joyce said.
The divide was reflected nationally with research undertaken by SEC Newgate for the Bush Summit finding people in NSW, Queensland, Victoria, Tasmania and Western Australia equally divided between those who felt landholders should accept renewable energy infrastructure and those who felt it was right to oppose it.
The Mood of the Bush tracking survey found support for the transition to renewables had dropped to just over half of people in NSW, Victoria, Queensland and South Australia while support remained high in Tasmania and Western Australia with two thirds of the population.
Farmer Josh Crowe and his wife Liz found out from their neighbours that Paris-based energy company Total Eren is planning to put 750,000 solar panels on their land.
“The relationship has been fractured because of this,” Mr Crowe said.
“It is going to have a massive negative impact on the value of our place.”
He said they felt powerless in the face of a dramatic change to their lifestyle.
“We sit on the deck and look straight back down the valley towards Tamworth and now we’re going to be looking at 750,000 solar panels,” he said.
Bendemeer Renewable Hub project director Llewellyn Owens said not every renewable project needed to be handled in that way.
He is also a director of Singapore-based Metis Energy which has put together a consortium of 13 adjoining farms who have all signed up to host wind and solar power.
“We are trying to show a better way it can be done that sets a really good foundation for the whole community,” he said.
Mr Owens conceded that energy companies were dividing communities and said the idea of putting like-minded farmers with adjoining properties together meant they accepted the visual pollution and would not mind transmission lines crossing their land to take the power to the national grid.
“If you invest in the region you bring local jobs and opportunities for the area,” he said.
A solar farm creates 300 jobs during construction and requires 15 to 20 people ongoing for maintenance.
“No one likes change. This is no different to any other major development be it coal or gas and it needs to take people on the journey first and to do that peoples’ concerns need to be listened to,” Mr Owens said.
Sorry but didn’t Mr Joyce happily sign this country up to some net zero bullshit?
Knuckle Dragger
August 7, 2023 10:22 am
gawd you people are full of shit
……
A curious thing to say if you enjoy being here
The god-oracleness doesn’t seem to be working. No, not at all.
bons
August 7, 2023 10:22 am
The photocopiers and tea ladies making up the Canberra Village Council acknowledge nothing concrrning Dumkoff. The cycle will be repeated accompanied by costs to the taxpayer as wrongful conviction cases come home.
Canberra demographics dictate that the hell hole will always be run by the lowest grade of public servants playing as pollies.
If democracy ever returns to our Country a referendum to get rid of the ACT obligatory.
Crossie
August 7, 2023 10:23 am
I can just hear those ‘dumbentsia’ living in Glebe or Newtown or on the North Shore or the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney saying ‘oh no, those laws can’t apply to MY house, or MY land, only to the land ‘out there’, I want to MAKE the laws, not have to abide by them’. But if Australia is a democracy and a land of decency then the laws apply to all of us or none of us.
This includes the aborigines, no more customary law that allows vile domestic violence and child abuse.
Sancho Panzer
August 7, 2023 10:29 am
Rabz
Aug 7, 2023 9:38 AM
Dumbgeld, who grew up in a housing commission estate
Of course he did.
I’m tired of this shit.
So what?
In Dumgeld’s case he spent the first twenty years of his life living with some disadvantage, then the next 35 enjoying more leg-ups than Roy Higgins.
Two year fast-tracked law degree based on concessions for working in an Aboriginal Legal Service, four year International Law Degree including trips overseas (no doubt all on the AbStudy ticket), goes from zero to DPP at world record pace, only taking silk upon reaching the top job.
Please, sir, can I have some of that structural and generational disadvantage too?
Crossie
August 7, 2023 10:30 am
Former deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce has condemned the rush to renewables as a “great energy swindle” that will see profits going overseas and Australians picking up the bill for higher energy prices.
Barnaby will have legitimacy objecting to the “swindle” only after he performs a public mea culpa for his support of this same policy when he was the Nationals leader. I would suggest that he prefaces each of these speeches with “I regret supporting this policy in the past and here is why …”
Sancho Panzer
August 7, 2023 10:31 am
gawd you people are full of shit
I’m not.
I shit my dacks every time I pass the building site down the road.
Sancho Panzer
August 7, 2023 10:34 am
cohenite
Aug 7, 2023 9:37 AM
Best depiction of that mull headed lesso bitch losing the soccer for the US:
That video has obviously been doctored.
The ball couldn’t travel that far in a few seconds.
I call fake noos.
H B Bear
August 7, 2023 10:34 am
The current batch of housos don’t seem particularly suited to public administration. Perhaps we should try the French model?
H B Bear
August 7, 2023 10:38 am
Please, sir, can I have some of that structural and generational disadvantage too?
Law is a particularly bad field to be 50ish, white and male looking for work. Amongst others.
Sancho Panzer
August 7, 2023 10:43 am
It would be a travesty if this piece of descriptive prose was left stranded on the dead thread:-
Knuckle Dragger
Aug 6, 2023 11:51 PM
and KD … you sound like squeaky toy
*a squeaky toy*
Try it on with the 18 year old apprentices you send out for skyhooks, bozo. It doesn’t work with people who’ve been around the block.
Guaranteed – and never having met you – you’ve got a stringy Catweazle beard and an expectation of holding court whenever you turn up. Anywhere.
How’s the ‘inside mail’ on the Attwood concentration camp going? The one you ‘knew about’ from ‘being on the inside’?
Describe yourself here as a ‘god oracle’ where people ‘shit their pants when you enter the room’ and expect credibility in a bigger yard with different dogs?
Pfft. Flick that control panel switch, champ. Flick it, because you’re That Bloke.
Ah, yes.
Gas pipes to the concentration camps.
“I know a bloke who knows this other bloke whose son works for Big Engineering and has seen the drawings.”
The golden age of Cat paranoia.
Although I always wondered why they were putting air-con in concentration camps.
The Brittany saga might be a good time to ask whether either of the ACT or NT are sufficiently large to support a full government and the administrative apparatus that entails. Admittedly, the failures in the case do not stem directly from the scale of the various institutions. I would also throw Tasmania in there. But for an accident of history, could be better managed from Melbourne (possibly not at the moment) and at lower cost.
“Former deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce has condemned the rush to renewables as a “great energy swindle” that will see profits going overseas and Australians picking up the bill for higher energy prices.”
Now that’s what you call “chutzpah”. Another swindle” is net zero, a swindle Beetroot happily agreed to back in late 2021.
Barnaby Joyce should STFU.
areff
August 7, 2023 10:57 am
FYI, Dover: Attempting to summon New Cat via Firefox goes nowhere fast — and it’s getting worse. Last week it was maybe a 15 second delay after clicking on the search result. It grew longer over the weekend (as the actress said to the bishop) and this morning it just times out.
However, switching to the Edge browser encounters no problems whatsoever. Fast access from the search results and spritely refreshing of the page.
Why would Firefox fail? Buggered if I know.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 7, 2023 11:04 am
This is gettingh roolly annoying .. giving, us, “housos, a bad name they is , Luigi & now Shane
I spent much of my childhood in Housing Commission but it was worse later on a rural backblock ‘farm’. Housing Commission had a certain conviviality to it in the 40’s and 50’s with many British migrants in it. There were problems and scandals, and middle-class people were never seen there, but there was also a sense of community. When our primary school teacher was seen in the street everyone was wondering what she was there for. Living there did carry some stigma and people got out if they could. Some, later, purchased their HC homes on well located land and did well.
I visited our old place in St. Marys a few years ago, the Mt Druitt ‘farm’ is under an expressway now, the bad memories under concrete now. Much of the old HC has been prettied up, but not our old place, which still looks fairly uninviting, as indeed it was. The house next door has been pulled down, just an empty weedy plot now, where memories of the abusive brickie’s labourer who used to live there flooded in as I held Hairy’s hand. Everyone knew he was a wife-beater and his wife confided to my mum that he ‘interfered with’ his daughter. Saddest of all was the ‘backward’ son, who stammered under his father’s constant hammering. My father was a known yeller at us kids, but he wasn’t as bad as that.
Re Albo’s HC background, Hairy as part of the inner-left circle of activists was a visitor to Albo’s HC home back in the 70’s and recalls that it was an OK apartment. He remembers Albo’s nice grandparents being there, and it all seemed fairly ordered, as HC could often be back in those days. Different to today, as I am sure Shaterzzz would agree.
Lots of people grew up poor and disadvantaged outside HC in those days too.
Some of the rural poverty and isolation was extreme, with family violence unchecked. It was one of my mum’s friends’ husbands in the old HC who got us the garage to live in when she felt compelled to leave my father. We were welcomed, for his personality problems were known to the HC crowd. We crept out like fieldmice visiting town one very bad night to land on ‘Uncle George and Auntie Ellen’ in their HC house and their own three kids. Uncle George took us the next morning to the garage in Sydney Street. All of the HC neighbours were called Uncles and Aunties; it’s an old working class thing, not specifically aboriginal at all.
WolfmanOz
August 7, 2023 11:05 am
Hi Dover – I use Safari (mostly) and it does take approx. 20 secs plus for the site to load, but once loaded jumping around from page to page or post to post is very quick.
All for your info.
Keep up the terrific work on the site.
Sancho Panzer
August 7, 2023 11:06 am
I observed the same Firefox vs Edge yesterday.
Not bad, but noticeably slower via Firefox.
A couple of timeouts this morning via Gongle on my Motorola Razr.
mizaris
August 7, 2023 11:06 am
3. The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its the composition, functions, powers and procedures.
This actually re-inserts the words relating to race which the 1967 referendum removed.
mizaris
August 7, 2023 11:06 am
3. The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its the composition, functions, powers and procedures.
This actually re-inserts words relating to race which the 1967 referendum removed.
calli
August 7, 2023 11:08 am
Mizaris
*uptick*
areff
August 7, 2023 11:08 am
Correction: Edge browser allowed posting the comment above (now back on Firefox, which loaded after a click on the ‘about’ search result rather than the homepage), but the thread won’t update. Comment is listed on the homepage right column of recent thread posts. But click on it and that comment and many others don’t appear.
Sancho Panzer
August 7, 2023 11:11 am
OK, OK.
Heard you the first time mizaris.
Razey
August 7, 2023 11:11 am
More like the invoice to parliament.
calli
August 7, 2023 11:12 am
Dad built fibro houses for the HC back in the 50’s. They were no different to the fibro house he built for Mum and himself, except the HC recipients didn’t have to pay for theirs.
calli
August 7, 2023 11:13 am
Make that two upticks on account of furious agreement.
I have a limited amount of f*cks to give about these “the fire has gone out, the tenk uz umpty” resignations. Especially when the mid-career petit-tyrant goes onto a payout, pension, UN appointment or that old favourite, consultancy to bring business and government ever closer.
Don’t know whether this is relevant Dover but I can’t see any posts between Calli at 11:13 and your test at 12:30.
GreyRanga
August 7, 2023 12:37 pm
I’ve never found you testing at all Dover.
Mother Lode
August 7, 2023 12:38 pm
Geez, Mizaris.
We don’t want people saying The Cat is an echo chamber!
Knuckle Dragger
August 7, 2023 12:39 pm
Error! Errorfest!
Getting a ‘too many redirections’ error message via Edge.
Not a whinge.
Knuckle Dragger
August 7, 2023 12:41 pm
Although not now.
Obviously.
Mother Lode
August 7, 2023 12:42 pm
(I tried copying and pasting twice more to play that accusation up – but Blog-smarts has undone me.)
Mother Lode
August 7, 2023 12:42 pm
Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!
Morsie
August 7, 2023 12:43 pm
Had a mate who was the chief legal officer in the ACT , not a politician.Nice guy but you would think he had become Pope for all the supposed gravitas around his position in what is a glorified Council.
Frank
August 7, 2023 12:43 pm
The Microchipping Agenda: Why are the Freemasons collecting the DNA of your Children?
Almost cracked the code, but be careful. They don’t like to be exposed.
“The Brittany saga might be a good time to ask whether either of the ACT or NT are sufficiently large to support a full government and the administrative apparatus that entails. “
I don’t know if the problem is administration. There are countries in Europe that have smaller populations than the ACT and NT (and TAS), and more than a few are smaller, in terms of geography, than the ACT and NT governments, yet they function quite well in terms of governance. The problem in the ACT and NT is that the governments of these jurisdictions are all afflicted with the same disease that afflicts the likes of the Scottish and Welsh governments. And what disease is that? They are sheltered workshops for far-left loons to promulgate and push their insane ideologies, and let’s face it, it’s working. The ACT far-left government has gifted us the Calvary Hospital requisition and now this Dumgold disaster. A half decent Coalition federal government would sack the ACT government and withdraw it’s self governance., whether that can be done is another issue. The plain truth is that self government has been a gift to the loony left. And it isn’t confined to the ACT or NT, most of our councils have now been captured by the loony left. Perhaps this is why I believe conservatives should begin by targeting local councils.
(I tried copying and pasting twice more to play that accusation up – but Blog-smarts has undone me.)
I don’t know if there is a clue in that.
Sometimes if the shaky finger hits the button twice it returns “Duplicate comment. Stop repeating yourself moron!” warning.
Other times the duplicate post goes through.
Maybe the goalkeeper hamster just isn’t up to it.
Dr Faustus
August 7, 2023 12:57 pm
The dog is at the vet having a cracked tooth removed.
I’m applying for an evening job stacking shelves at Colesworth to pay for the damage.
Meanwhile, here in Meanjin (or Meaanjin, if you are Brisbane Airport Corporation) the Cat is loading and running as quick as a Canbra payout.
My advice for those with browser problems: lead a clean life.
The Yindjibarndi Aboriginal Corporation (YAC) is seeking $500 million a year in compensation from Fortescue (FMG) over its lucrative iron ore operations at the Solomon Hub, due to the “economic and cultural loss” caused by mining.
What economic loss?
The land was generating 200 kangaroos, 10 echidnas and 2000 lizards/little critters a year pre settlement.
Site was down between 11.15 and my testing comment. Cloudflare wasn’t pointing the site to the VPS but back to the old server; so we had to work out why it wasn’t. We had to delete old links, purge cache in Cloudflare, and some other stuff and bingo, we’re back.
If you’re having problems let me know.
Old School Conservative
August 7, 2023 1:11 pm
Indolent
Aug 7, 2023 8:59 AM
Scotland’s Covid Inquiry publishes damning report: No evidence to support face masks, lockdowns and other covid measures
What a coincidence. I walked into a specialist’s reception room in a local hospital at 11am today, checked in, and all receptionists, patients, and doctors were masked.
I went to the room next door which is a cafe, lingered for 15 minutes over a coffee, and went back – only to find not a mask in sight!
The hospital had just declared “masks no longer mandatory”.
I’m so glad to know I could have caught Covid 15 minutes earlier but for the mask mandate, but suddenly couldn’t catch it without a mask.
Why the backflip?
Lysander
August 7, 2023 1:14 pm
Anyone having access issues with this site using a PC???
Mr Sofronoff KC’s findings were no surprise. Not after Mr Drumgold’s days in the witness box during the May public hearings. Each day was riveting as the territory’s chief prosecutor had to be dragged into admitting that he misled a judge, maligned a Liberal minister, failed in his prosecutorial duties, made baseless allegations against police, and was involved in drafting an affidavit that made a false claim in order to withhold material from a defendant facing jail if found guilty of rape.
I’m not being fanatical here but why shouldn’t Shane Drumgold go to gaol? It would appear that he committed several serious “justice” offences.
The fact is if you or I did these things, we could go to gaol for many, many years and possibly over a decade even as a first-time offender, given the position he had and how judges do not like people not taking them seriously.
Let’s not be vindictive – a multi-tens of millions of dollars payout to Lehrmann, a smaller sum to Reynolds and Higgins otherwise being compelled to pay her inappropriately named “compensation” payout back would be sweet enough – as well as an undertaking by Drumgold never to hold public office or public sector employment (or consultancy) or practise law ever again.
Lysander
August 7, 2023 1:18 pm
It’s ok…. I cleared cookies and appears to be working now…
mizaris
August 7, 2023 1:22 pm
Deep and profound apologies for duplicate post.
Currently camped on a beach ~200km from Exmouth with random and intermittent phone signal. I grabs wot I can when the lights flicker, and press buttons madly.
It’s about 27°C atm, water is clear and calm, currently contemplating a dip. Nice place to be in winter.
Safari on iPhone 13 Mini does not like site, but Brave does, Brave on desktop was trash before; Firefox works fine, I tried posting in the last update by the site admin.
I wonder if Apple has an anti-woke “bigot list” of “enemies”. I cleared caches a week ago and Safari is still kind of crap.
I’m getting good crisp performance across the site now.
Take note, purging Cloudflare means it will need to reaccess cached items that improve performance for those accessing the site. That may mean that performance now should improve as it caches these items again over the next day or so.
At the same time, various Covid-19 measures across the U.S. have been trending upwards. The CDC Covid-19 Data Tracker indicated that Covid-19 hospitalizations were up 12.1% in the week ending July 22. And the presence of the virus in wastewater samples around the country has increased as well.
These people can GAGF. Virtually everyone is a jabee, has had viral shedding or caught the damned thing. Everyone who survived so far has a minuscule chance of dying from COVID as a putative cause.
The Offence of Perjury
According to Section 703 of the Criminal Code 2002 (ACT), making a false sworn statement in a legal proceeding is an offence of perjury.
Under this section, the court may find a person guilty of this crime even if they gave the false statement due to their recklessness.
Anyone who commits this offence may receive a maximum penalty of 700 penalty units or seven years imprisonment and sometimes both.
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Additionally, based on this section, an intermediary can commit the offence of perjury. The law states that it is illegal for an intermediary to communicate a false statement to the court in the process of assisting a witness during a legal proceeding.
The intention behind providing a false statement could be to procure the conviction or release of an individual.
Any intermediary who commits the crime of perjury may receive a maximum of 1400 penalty units or 14 years imprisonment. There are cases where an intermediary may face both penalties.
The penalties that come with an intermediary committing the crime of perjury are more serious. Based on the law when an intermediary commits the offence of perjury, it becomes aggravated.
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Additional Provisions Regarding Perjury or Aggravated Perjury
The additional provision regarding perjury and aggravated perjury is evident in Section 704 of the Criminal Code 2002 (ACT). This section states that it is irrelevant if the sworn statement materially relates to the legal proceeding or not.
Also, it is insignificant if the court or any other authorised entity had jurisdiction to handle the case when the offender committed the offence.
Furthermore, it is of no consequence whether the individual who made the sworn statement was competent enough to provide evidence during the trial.
However, the court can declare a person not guilty of the crime of perjury or aggravated perjury if they lack competence, as seen in the Evidence Act 2011 (ACT).
Additionally, the court does not concern itself with whether there is a formal defect in the sworn statement.
Under the additional provision regarding perjury or aggravated perjury, a trier of fact can only find a person guilty if they believe such to be true beyond all reasonable doubts.
For the trier of fact to reach a conclusion, this might require that the trier of fact take a close look at the correct and incorrect statement to determine any irreconcilable conflict.
Also, this provision states that a sworn statement based on an ingenuine opinion is false. It also establishes that for a conviction to occur, there may not be a need to corroborate the evidence of perjury or aggravated perjury.
Bottom Line
The offence of perjury can be an obstruction to justice. This is because if the court uses false information, it could wrongly convict an innocent person or acquit someone guilty of an offence.
Based on these reasons, the courts in ACT do not take the crime of perjury lightly. If a person faces charges for this crime, they should seek legal advice.
Black Ball
August 7, 2023 1:38 pm
Plibbers most annoyed. Herald Sun:
Labor Minister Tanya Plibersek has clashed with Sunrise host Natalie Barr and Nationals MP Barnaby Joyce in a heated debate over falling public support for the Indigenous Voice to Parliament.
It comes after fresh polling showed a drastic fall in support for the proposal amid a series of controversies over Aboriginal cultural heritage, land rights and treaty negotiations.
Asked whether she was concerned, Ms Plibersek said she was “absolutely determined that we’ve got to get out there and combat the scare campaign and explain to people this is about two really simple things”.
“It’s about changing our constitution to acknowledge that Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people have been here a long time, and it’s also about setting up a committee that would give advice to the parliament,” she told the program on Monday morning.
“At the moment we know we’ve got gaps in life expectancy, in health outcomes, employment, education. What the No campaign are saying is we should just keep doing what we’re doing, there should just be more of the same, and of course I don’t agree with that.”
But Mr Joyce said the Yes campaign was “failing so badly because of what it is, not because of the polling”. “It’s based on race, so it differentiates Australia on race, which is I think anathema in 2023,” he said.
“That it is in the constitution … once it’s in the constitution you can’t get rid of it, it’s there forever. It’s not elected by the Australian people, it’s a selected body, this runs at odds with democracy. And of course ultimately it has the capacity to be influenced or held by one side of the political fence or other.”
Mr Joyce added that “they say it’s going to make certain issues, health and education better, but they haven’t described exactly how it’s going to do that”.
“Why can’t we do that now, why do we need it to go into the constitution? It’s overreach, and because it’s overreach, people say I want to do something but I can’t support it,” he said.
But Ms Plibersek said the No campaign was “winning because they’re using the same old scare campaign they’ve used every time there’s been a change”.
“During the National Apology when Peter Dutton walked out, he said Australia would be up for billions of dollars of compensation — never happened,” she said. “After the Mabo and Wik decisions, native title, billions of dollars compensation — never happened.”
But Barr pressed Ms Plibersek on the wording in the Uluru Statement which refers to a treaty and a “percentage of GDP” to be paid.
“Well Nat, we’re not determining any of that right now, we’re determining one simple question, do we change our constitution to recognise Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people and do we set up a committee that would give advice,” the MP replied.
Ms Plibersek again slammed the “scare campaign” and echoed Nationals defector Andrew Gee’s claim that the Coalition would be “reconciliation wreckers”.
“This is not true,” Mr Joyce said.
“The Prime Minister of Australia has said he will deliver the Uluru Statement from the Heart ‘in full’, and that includes a treaty. So you’ve got to either believe the Prime Minister or not.”
He added, “And if you want to clear up scare campaigns, then one of the things you should do is deliver the legislation for the Voice for examination by the Australian people prior to them walking into the constitutional church to marry it forever. You’re going to show it to us on the way out, we want to see it on the way in.”
Ms Plibersek hit back that the legislation “will be determined by the parliament, you’ll get a vote, Barnaby”.
“You dominate the parliament,” he replied. “It’s determined by the Labor Party and the Greens, not us. You’re the government.”
Barr agreed, adding, “And that’s what people are saying, they want to see it before they vote on it.”
“That’s not the consensus, Nat,” Ms Plibersek said.
“Well the figures are here, obviously the Newspoll could be wrong, but in a Labor state like Victoria the voting is now tied. So there’s something going wrong, isn’t there?”
“Obviously,” Mr Joyce said.
“Well we’re going to keep campaigning,” Ms Plibersek said.
thefrollickingmole
Aug 7, 2023 12:57 PM
The Yindjibarndi Aboriginal Corporation (YAC) is seeking $500 million a year in compensation from Fortescue (FMG) over its lucrative iron ore operations at the Solomon Hub, due to the “economic and cultural loss” caused by mining.
Yes, and the (former) Cultural Heritage Act are a glimpse into the future under the Voice. If the Voice vote is successful, the demands and impositions will accelerate to the point that business will be utterly beholden to the Aboriginal corporations and their assorted grifters. Governments at every level will fold like a cheap suit. All tied into knots and of course, the ultimate payers will be the consumer.
Not to mention the sheer principle of the thing where there are two ‘classes’ of Australians. And what about Mabo? You can’t have it both ways – either the country was settled in which case land rights exist or it was invaded (as is the current catchcry) and land rights are extinguished. Liars, every one of them. Say whatever suits their agenda on the day.
Welcome to country – an invention from the mid 1970s. Not some ancient ceremony – I’m older than it is.
Just a few weeks ago I saw a Greens Senator saying the Aboriginals had been here for 80,000 (!) years. Truth telling? Yeah, that would be a good idea ‘cos I’ve got a few truths I’d like to tell.
I am so sick of this utter BS.
/rant
Lysander
August 7, 2023 1:40 pm
Under this section, the court may find a person guilty of this crime even if they gave the false statement due to their recklessness.
But Barr pressed Ms Plibersek on the wording in the Uluru Statement which refers to a treaty and a “percentage of GDP” to be paid.
What a turn-up for the books. Actual journalism on Channel 7!
thefrollickingmole
August 7, 2023 1:44 pm
As the highest law officer in that jurisdiction he should face the maximum penalties.
There can be no more serious breach of the law than the chap in charge of it willfully and blatantly breaking it.
The Yindjibarndi people will have another shot at healing old wounds as they prepare to elect new leaders, and all have expressed a desire to bridge the deep divisions in the community.
A meeting will be held this Tuesday to elect new directors to the Yindjibarndi Aboriginal Corporation, which is in the hands of receivers after the Supreme Court ruled the previous board had been elected invalidly.
ThePilbara News spoken to Yindjibarndi people from both sides of the rift who have shown interest in running for a director role with YAC.
So, whose Voice?
thefrollickingmole
August 7, 2023 1:51 pm
“During the National Apology when Peter Dutton walked out, he said Australia would be up for billions of dollars of compensation — never happened,” she said. “After the Mabo and Wik decisions, native title, billions of dollars compensation — never happened.”
It was the final legal avenue for a breakaway Noongar group, who were challenging the $1.3 billion South West Native Title Settlement.
Add in hundreds of mining etc claims and billions it is you junkies missus.
Rosie
August 7, 2023 1:59 pm
“In my mind, the handling of the case was reflective of the chronic problem in Australia with the way our legal institutions deal with allegations of sexual violence.
I don’t agree.
In 99.99% of cases the accuser remains anonymous.
Ms Higgins is solely responsible for her media spectacular.
Defence lawyers must tread extremely lightly cross examining accusers, and if the judge doesn’t like a question, it doesn’t get asked, the police also go very gently with sexual assault claims.
At least the AFP are prepared to test the validity of the accusation, possibly as the result of the Sarah Jane Parkinson case, other jurisdictions may in practice be already playing progressive games to get the conviction rate up.
The ‘chronic’ problem is you are never going to get a high conviction rate in he said she said and that’s a good thing.
Don’t forget it wasn’t that long ago, even in Australia, the penalty for rape was hanging you don’t get to send people to prison for many years because someone making an accusation is sufficient.
Sancho Panzer
August 7, 2023 2:01 pm
I don’t know if the problem is administration. There are countries in Europe that have smaller populations than the ACT and NT (and TAS), and more than a few are smaller, in terms of geography, than the ACT and NT governments, yet they function quite well in terms of governance
Quite so.
Dumgeld used the “overworked and under pressure” excuse.
I don’t buy that.
Let’s take the Moller report for example.
Taking the correct path of admitting it was a discoverable document and forwarding it to the defence was a two minute job. Constructing the whole charade that it was an AFP privileged document would have consumed some effort. So overwork isn’t an excuse there. You just need to prioritise and, you know, put illegal activity down the list a bit.
As for “pressure”.
The pressure should be to run prosecutions fairly, efficiently and effectively.
No more, no less.
If you are not up for that, piss off. If he is talking about mean girls political pressure, well tell us more.
Mother Lode
August 7, 2023 2:03 pm
So the new strain is to be named Eris?
Eris was the Greek goddess of strife, sister of Ares who shares with her a delight in bloodshed.
I mean, if these people want to invoke a response to their tyrannical impulses…
calli
August 7, 2023 2:06 pm
It’s about changing our constitution to acknowledge that Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people have been here a long time, and it’s also about setting up a committee that would give advice to the parliament,” she told the program on Monday morning.
Tanya, that is not what the change says.
The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its the composition, functions, powers and procedures.
Stop it with the b/s. There is no “scare campaign”. It’s actually a “truth campaign”. Which you wouldn’t recognise if you tripped over it and it bit you on the bum.
Dr Faustus
August 7, 2023 2:06 pm
But Barr pressed Ms Plibersek on the wording in the Uluru Statement which refers to a treaty and a “percentage of GDP” to be paid.
“Well Nat, we’re not determining any of that right now, we’re determining one simple question, do we change our constitution to recognise Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people and do we set up a committee that would give advice,” the MP replied.
Labor is desperately trying to dissociate Voice from Treaty and reparations/compensation.
Despite the Uluru participants clearly stated expectation that the Voice is simply a segue to self-determination and compensation, the Government’s narrative model is firmly that the Voice will give advice that the Albanese Government will use to Close the Gap and bring smiles to the communities. This is the basis for both gritted teeth deflection responses by Albanese, Plibbersek and (presumably) the passionate advocacy by people outside the Canbra bubble who appear to believe this.
You’d have to think the chances of an ALP government allowing a parallel system of waddy-justice to flower and handing over $100-$200 billion each year to some unaccountable Indigenous group is slight – for no reason other than the electoral backlash from the non-indigenous voteherd.
The takeaway therefore is that Uncle Luigi is humbugging Team Uluru, bigtime – and expects to force this cheap but cheerful political outcome through the enabling legislation.
Alternatively, to reap the whirlwind from the disenfranchised 95% of the population.
bons
August 7, 2023 2:10 pm
Good heavens. My wife’s mate came around and told us about her entertaining Saturday afternoon which involved a methhead in her house threatening to kill her for hiding her car, which was in the garage.
After more threats, and smashing through a screen door she took him to the garage and locked him in. He proceeded to use her car to attempt to bash down the garage door which had an obvious open switch beside it.
She locked herself in a toilet and called plod who arrived immediately because they were chasing genius and his two hopped up mates who had attempted to rob an IGA conveniently located next to the police station.
We were speechless, but she considered it to have been great sport. No fainting couch for this ‘victim’. Her only carry overs were trying to stop the police agony bimbo from harrasing her about counselling and ensuring that her DIL didn’t find out so that she could avoid being mothered.
Do not cross this woman.
calli
August 7, 2023 2:12 pm
The second quote is from mizaris at 11:06.
calli
August 7, 2023 2:16 pm
From memory, Barr is Old School Labor. Plibbers may have miscalculated.
Crossie
August 7, 2023 2:17 pm
But Barr pressed Ms Plibersek on the wording in the Uluru Statement which refers to a treaty and a “percentage of GDP” to be paid.
What a turn-up for the books. Actual journalism on Channel 7!
Compared to the other free to air channels Seven is quite good. They also have other shows people want to watch. It’s a new approach/sarc.
thefrollickingmole
August 7, 2023 2:18 pm
Don’t forget it wasn’t that long ago, even in Australia, the penalty for rape was hanging you don’t get to send people to prison for many years because someone making an accusation is sufficient.
Ive been banned on one occasion at the gruinaid comments for stating if you want heavy penalties (which the majority of people do) then there must be serious legal work to secure convictions.
If you want bulk convictions then the offence must be treated as minor to allow for a “multinova” (almost automatic) level of justice.
You cant have it heavy penalties & “multinova” justice.
Similar to light penalties and serious legal work.
Bons – I like the cut of that ladies jib…
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 7, 2023 2:19 pm
It was the final legal avenue for a breakaway Noongar group, who were challenging the $1.3 billion South West Native Title Settlement.
SEVEN Noongars were claiming they hadn’t been properly consulted, and were demanding THIRTY BILLION dollars in compensation!
The crosstabs for the Yes campaign are absolutely terrible. Kos Samaras is trying to spin it as the ‘politics of grievance but when you look at the crosstabs, Yes is getting pounded everywhere. I going to write a post on this for tomorrow. Yes is dead in the water if this research is accurate.
Shatterzzzz, let me know if that continues. Sounds like a caching issue.
I’ve cleared my cache several times .. everything is, now, loading well ..
front page all details/pix appear but blank space between “open thread” & pix title on comments page …….
H B Bear
August 7, 2023 2:36 pm
But Barr pressed Ms Plibersek on the wording in the Uluru Statement which refers to a treaty and a “percentage of GDP” to be paid.
Natalie has got bigger balls than Kochie ever had. Bunners girl.
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 7, 2023 2:41 pm
Sorry, my memory played me false on the issue of the compensation claim, launched by the group of dissident Noongars……..
WA Indigenous group’s $290 billion compensation claim could become one of world’s biggest payouts
By national Indigenous affairs correspondent Isabella Higgins and the Specialist Reporting Team’s Sarah Collard
Posted Fri 29 Nov 2019 at 12:46pm
Friday 29 Nov 2019 at 12:46pm
Indigenous leaders have filed an unprecedented compensation claim against the West Australian Government that could become one of the world’s biggest legal payouts.
Key points:
Noongar People are pursuing more than $290 billion from the WA Government
The compensation is for “spiritual damage” caused by loss of traditional land
The group’s native title claim covers an area almost as big as Victoria
Noongar people of south-west WA are pursuing more than $290 billion for “spiritual damage” caused by loss of their traditional land.
The figure would be almost a quarter of Australia’s gross domestic product of $1.4 trillion and more than West Australia’s gross state product of $259 billion.
If the action is successful, it would put it in the range of a landmark $US206 billion ($304 billion) payout made by the tobacco industry to governments across the United States in 1998.
Noongar woman Naomi Smith, a lead claimant, said her people had been struggling since European settlement when they lost access to their traditional land.
Lysander
August 7, 2023 2:50 pm
Not a bad idea from a poster at CL’s…
dutts should come out and say they’ll do constitutional recognition if voted in so “sit this one out”
Noongar woman Naomi Smith, a lead claimant, said her people had been struggling since European settlement when they lost access to their traditional land.
You live & learn .. LOL! .. I had no idea Twiggy was mining in the suburbs .. always thought his operations were somewhere out in the Pilbara .. where settler type folk never go ……
Razey
August 7, 2023 2:58 pm
All this talk of cookies is making me hungry.
GreyRanga
August 7, 2023 3:01 pm
Cookies
GreyRanga
August 7, 2023 3:02 pm
Mmmmm Cookies.
GreyRanga
August 7, 2023 3:03 pm
Did someone mention cookies?
GreyRanga
August 7, 2023 3:04 pm
Ive just realised I don’t need drugs to make me silly.
Boambee John
August 7, 2023 3:05 pm
calli
Aug 7, 2023 2:16 PM
From memory, Barr is Old School Labor. Plibbers may have miscalculated.
“Old School Labor” is not the same thing as “Nu-Labor”.
See also Peter Baldwin, Gary Johns, Latham and other similar personages.
GreyRanga
August 7, 2023 3:08 pm
My daughter tells me I walk 25%+ faster since my last knee operation. No acute pain anymore.
Rosie
August 7, 2023 3:10 pm
Maybe Mr Drumgold was exhausted by the excess workload involved in his long term battle with the remuneration tribunal arguing for Supreme Court pay parity and a judge’s pension (for himself).
Tom
August 7, 2023 3:11 pm
The crosstabs for the Yes campaign are absolutely terrible … Yes is getting pounded everywhere … Yes is dead in the water if this research is accurate.
Spot on, Dover at 2.22pm.
I’ve been observing and writing about Australian politics for more than half a century and I’ve never seen a political issue heading for a bigger defeat.
It shouldn’t be a surprise. As weak as it is, Australians hate activists meddling with their Constitution and there is a long record of said activists being told to piss off when the question is asked in referendums.
That Elbow is persisting with the Voice is a commentary not only on his loathing for democracy and mainstream Australia, but on a low IQ where dogma rules.
Browsing a bittorrent audio book site and encountered this gem:
Resistance: How Women Saved Democracy from Donald Trump – Jennifer Rubin
Fun comments from other pirates*,
LMAO
Thank God we “saved” America from DJT…
..Joe Biden has really done wonders for the economy, and the country at large.
Thanks for saving ladies. Now can one of you save me the trouble of getting off the couch & go make me a sandwich. Thanks babe;)
This is going on my bookshelf between How Women Prevented the GW Bush from Starting a War in Iraq and How Women Thwarted the Assassination of JFK.
*I don’t pirate; I offer free off-site data storage and duplication for the legally-purchased files of others.
Steve trickler
August 7, 2023 3:18 pm
I don’t debate with people anymore about mad-made climate change in social circles. When the subject does come up, I just come out with it – “You are a brainwashed faaarkin idiot!”
I’ve said it to close friends … and are still friends. I point them to Heller and they have a “Oh f*ck!” moment. Welcome to the party!
The dog is at the vet having a cracked tooth removed.
I’m applying for an evening job stacking shelves at Colesworth to pay for the damage.
We’ve just brought Attapuss back from the vets where he’s had his yearly shots. The good news is he’s generally healthy but he has one bad tooth that has to come out, and his teeth need cleaning. That explains his recent extra-fussiness about his food. We’ve booked him in for when we get back from Queensland in two week’s time, and the cost is staggering. Cat and dog dentistry requires a full general anaesthetic and pricey medical skills, drugs and equipment. No wonder people are handing in their pets, unable to afford the cost of them.
Mole> banned likewise from grauniad for gently questioning climate change. Can hand it out but can’t take it the other way …
Knuckle Dragger
August 7, 2023 3:23 pm
‘It was the salmon mousse’ news (the Hun):
The former daughter-in-law of a couple who died when they ate poisonous mushrooms hosted the tragic lunch.
Erin Patterson lives at the Leongatha house where the fatal meal was eaten by four elderly locals – her ex-parents-in-law Don and Gail Patterson and Gail’s sister Heather Wilkinson, who all died, as well as Heather’s husband Ian, who is fighting for his life.
It’s understood Erin was married to the Pattersons’ son, Simon, and has lived at the large rural property for about 12 months.
Pesky local journos spoke to a neighbour:
The neighbour said locals did not forage for mushrooms because they “know the dangers”.
Tipping Erin’s a big Agatha Christie fan.
GreyRanga
August 7, 2023 3:23 pm
Filling in time waiting for an optician appointment I was looking in Harry Hartog books. In the australian section I only recognised 3 authors. Does Thomas Keneally count as an author? 90% by female or those with feminine names.
gawd you people are full of shit.
oops … was that out loud?
Cash!
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Cash 2.0 Great Dane at a first responder event & meets the LAPD police chief!
apparently I mentioned … Attwood
not some fiction that KD invented …
not some idiotic fake from sancho
… I’m not saying that there’s a cartel of bull-shitters here on the forum
what I am saying is this
Joe Biden will NOT be the Democrat nominee. Splay some bets on “anyone but” whilst the odds are still good. Newsom is good value @ 7/1, but there are plenty of others @ longer odds. It won’t be Joe. He’s as good as gone.
Woke U.S. Women’s Soccer Team Suffers Earliest World Cup Exit EVER After Losing to Sweden on Penalties – Americans ROAST Megan Rapinoe After She Costs Her Team the Match
Pure karma.
When you despise the nation you are supposed to be representing they celebrate your humiliation. The fact that America hating Rapinoe is the one who actually screwed the pooch is icing on the cake.
Johannes Leak.
Mark Knight.
Peter Broelman.
Peter Brookes.
Michael Ramirez.
A.F. Branco.
Tom Stiglich.
Chip Bok.
Michael Ramirez #2.
Matt Margolis.
Ben Garrison.
Thanks Tom.
Garma’s a bitch.
Petros wins Quote of the thread. Bravo. 😀
It dovetails beautifully with Leaks’ toon which is a brilliant follow-up to his first T-shirt toon.
What a great start to the day. Thanks Tom and Petros.
mushroom murder?
If you’ve ever been to Fatima you would know how big that central area is.
Ditto seeing one and half million on the bank of the Targa.
world youth day in Portugal
The Australian, paywalled.
Notice how the msm never seem to suggest Andrews has a women problem.
Feud between Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews and ABC host Virginia Trioli boils over
okay the ABC ran a little story in 2016 about Dan and women.
Chalumbin Wind Farm proposal adjacent to World Heritage-protected rainforests draws traditional owners’ ire
Grassroots Fundraising for Biden and Democrats is Hitting a Wall
Reports indicate that Biden has only 7 staff members on his reelection campaign team at the moment with 3 of them being hired late last month. That’s quite a shoestring operation for a national campaign, which begs all sorts of questions.
Curiouser and curiouser.
A prominent left-wing organization laid off half its staff last month, a further sign that Democratic groups are struggling to stay afloat. The group works to help elect far-left candidates and is largely credited with helping create the “Squad” of House lawmakers that includes Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.) and Ilhan Omar (D., Minn.).
Well, blow me down!
You know that old Peter Gabriel song Games Without Frontiers?
You know the backing vocal seeming to go “She’s so popular”?
It is not. The woman is singing “Jeux sans frontières” – French for ‘games without frontiers’.
And bonus points: the backing vocalist was Kate Bush.
I can’t wait to tell Alex the Seal.
Looks like Broelman has amnesia on “mobs” and the USA.
I seem to recall entire towns burning, shots fired, people murdered and innocents imprisoned during 2020. Antifa and BLM.
All forgotten in 2021 of course.
Surprise.
Atlassian owner Mike Cannon-Brookes moves on with mystery woman after marriage split from wife Annie
Bush and Gabriel did a couple of collaborations. I enjoyed “Don’t Give Up” very much, the hardest thing is to keep on going after your world falls apart.
From the dead thread, thanks Slackster for that trip down Memory Lane with Aggro and Ann-Marie. She was a real champion. No, it couldn’t be done today because TV wymmyn are so protective of their veneer of faux dignity.
How long does this media luv-fest for the YES mob last? .. regardless of anything else the one stand-out of all the YES/NO arguments has gotta be … the gucci gnome and the fact she is totally out of her depth as a $400 000 plus minister for anything! ..
there is nothing coming out of the YES side of the equation for “improvement” of life for 251s that isn’t/shouldn’t be already covered by the $39billion a year or the hundreds of hanger-on 251, exclusive, operations now on the OPM teat ….
So, instead of spending her time galavantin’ around Oz and spruiking the company line why isn’t she in her ministerial office (great place for 251 HQ .. lotza, needy, 251 tribes around Canberra!) sorting out where all the OPM is ACTUALLY going! .. FFS!
Wow.
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From the Old Fred…
Sancho Panzer
Aug 6, 2023 9:57 PM
Anyway, after dinner I cheered her up. We sat and watched all four episodes of Muster Dogs, which is now on Netflix. My mother adores dogs, she grew up with kelpies and cattle dogs.
That was a top show, although I got a bit cranky at the gentleman farmer from Victoria who had a “difficult” dog.
No, fckwit.
You were given a well bred dog which was smart, but a little bit headstrong. It could have become a top class working dog, but you knew better than the expert training advice you were given.
But, all things considered, a good show.
Dogs are the best people ever.”
Yes, a top show. And Mum and I both said the same about the gentleman farmer from Victoria. The good thing was that Luce (Lucifer) found a top home with Frank from Northern Queensland.
And yes, dogs are the best people ever!
Yikes! Does that apply to Christopher Pyne too?
Or did he just get a free pass because “hacked” ? 😀
Thanks for the wind turbine story Rosie.
There are no licensing or rules in place to stop renewable companies from prospecting for sites wherever they like.
It’s not an oversight but a deliberate policy to allow accumulation of land that then justifies transmission lines being built to connect the rent seekers to the trading floor run by AEMO.
It’s akin to building a factory in the middle of nowhere and then claiming the government has to fund a connecting road.
BTW – don’t call these monstrosities “farms”
Intermittent Energy Collection Points.
Intermittent Electrical Subsidy Accumulators.
The early edition of the
struggling to put a post Garma spin on the Voice for the ALPBC.
Intermittent taxpayer funding farms.
That story also illustrated the constant infighting that occurs in the Aboriginal community.
Quite possibly Aboriginal Corp A has garnered a nice whack of consultation fees and possibly an ongoing percentage from the wind farm operations and family mob B are aggrieved that they haven’t.
Paul Ingrassia ??????
@PaulIngrassia
Here are some crucial facts you should know about the far Left, Trump-hating judge, Tanya Chutkan, who was purportedly “randomly assigned” by a computer algorithm to the Jack Smith case:
-Barack Obama nominated her to the federal bench on the US District Court for D.C. in 2014.
– In 2021, she denied President Trump’s attempt to protect his White House records from the House select committee that investigated the Jan. 6 attack, expressly violating his executive privilege, attorney-client privilege, and a litany of other bedrock constitutional rights, ruling that President Trump did not have the power to prevent the disclosure.
-Chutkan has been extremely, mercilessly harsh on January 6th victims. She was the only judge in Washington, D.C., a city teeming with left wing Obama and Biden appointed judges, who has given Jan. 6 defendants sentences that are longer than those requested by the Justice Department.
-Chutkan emphatically does not believe in the First Amendment. She has stated that the mostly peaceful January 6th protestors who assembled on Capitol grounds were “not exercising their First Amendment rights,” even though they absolutely were. Moreover, she characterized the events of that day, without any evidence, as “a violent attempt to overthrow the government,” even though that was never, ever the intent, let alone even a realistic consideration, of anyone who showed up on Capitol grounds that day.
-Chutkan has made no pretenses about her complete and utter contempt for President Trump, once stating “Presidents are not kings, and [Trump] is not President.”
Trump is 100% correct: it is so obvious that Jack Smith and the deep state plotted to bring on arguably the most vindictive, anti-Trump judge in the country to “try” this case. There is no way President Trump can get a fair hearing with Chutkan, who is a cutthroat political operator that only cares about prosecuting political enemies, and not the Constitution or rule of law.
President Trump’s team has strong authority to ask for a recusal at an absolute minimum, and really, his legal team should file a motion to change venue outside of D.C. entirely if there is any hope at all of having a fair judge and jury assigned to a case that a fair judge would in reality dismiss right off the bat.
Connected
Ruiniable
Accumulation
Pastures
Taxplayers
Gez is looking at
Transient
Highwire
Energy
Farm
Transmissions
As somebody has already pointed out, he says one thing while his newly appoint CEO of X Twitter keeps on censoring whatever and whomever she doesn’t like. It’s a scam. Besides, he needs the Deep State to keep giving him rights to rocket launches.
And there I was trying to be subtle and sly about the bird mincers.
Chutkin should recuse HERSELF if she has integrity.
This should be seen everywhere!
https://michaelsmithnews.typepad.com/.a/6a0177444b0c2e970d02b751adc838200c-pi
PS. Is that Dan in black face?
VAERS data is crystal clear: The COVID vaccines are killing an estimated 1 person per 1,000 doses (676,000 dead Americans)
There is no ‘working together’ in cultural heritage laws.
There was one side, landowners, totally under the thumb of the other, Aboriginal Corporation, with no negotiation on how much they would be required to pay, how long it would take, what the results might be, or without any recourse to an independent authority.
All for a bit of stone age rubbish.
How many knapped flints do you need?
Juukan Gorge was a sheltering place, if every place Aboriginal people stopped and made camp is sacred, the word sacred is robbed of all meaning and all of Australia is potentially at risk of being declared such a site, if it only takes a single stone.
The Microchipping Agenda: Why are the Freemasons collecting the DNA of your Children?
I’ve long wondered about that projection. They didn’t pluck it out of the air.
Dark Secrets Exposed: CIA is behind Deagel’s Shocking 2025 Depopulation Forecast & Official Excess Death Figures in the Millions prove it’s on Target & not just an Estimation
There are plenty of city blocks over 1100 square metres, at least four members of my immediate family live in metro Melbourne on such blocks, including me. I’m sure the consternation and subsequent backtracking in WA is because so many people were affected by the new legislation.
Incidentally those cackling on about wise rural and dumb urban will hopefully shut up if the referendum goes down in a screaming heap.
They might even need to thank those city sheeple.
Mr Albanese was confident the referendum would find momentum in the “final period” before the vote, widely anticipated to take place in mid-October.
The date is the 14th of October.
The AEC provided this date, as well as the pre-polling dates and sites to the NO campaign at least 2 weeks ago.
It hasn’t yet been gazetted, presumably because the spittle-flecked trot is still sweating on the numbers and may yet cut his losses first.
Budapest Calls US’s Request for Data on 900,000 Hungarians ‘Unprecedented’
Take a look at this idiot.
illuminatibot
@iluminatibot
The public has no idea whats coming
Things will escalate very quickly now
Scotland’s Covid Inquiry publishes damning report: No evidence to support face masks, lockdowns and other covid measures
I forsee many…many severed hands in our future.
Meme
incidentally if you read about juukan gorge cave local aboriginal communities signed off on the destruction but belatedly changed their minds after mining company archaeological research recovered a plait of human hair.
Personally I wouldn’t have blown it up, but the decision didn’t warrant the introduction of such draconian legislation.
Like Obama himself, most the people Obama nominated to higher courts from 2008 to 2016 are fully committed communist revolutionaries with no morals or personal behavioural stands we would be familiar with.
Obama’s judges — especially the females — are a dangerous breed of feral dog.
The superb Janet Albrechtsen in the Oz today:
In his statement, Shane Drumgold said that he has been “driven by a burning fire within, lit by an early life spent surrounded by the pain of chronic inter-generational social injustice”.
To allude to that background, given the misconduct uncovered by Walter Sofronoff KC, will be seen by many as an affront to the most vulnerable citizens.
Mr Drumgold, who grew up in a housing commission estate and reached the highest legal position in his territory, should have understood that the poor and disadvantaged are no match for the power and resources of the state.
Our criminal justice system is premised on foundational, non-negotiable principles – presumption of innocence, a fair trial and due process – to protect every citizen, and especially the most vulnerable, against the abuse of state power.
When a DPP misbehaves in office, vulnerable citizens are most at risk. While no one should need a team of brilliant defence lawyers to fight off efforts by a DPP to withhold evidence, the poor are especially in danger of missing out on a fair trial.
The ACT government should not have accepted Mr Drumgold’s resignation. They should have sacked him.
Mr Sofronoff KC’s findings were no surprise. Not after Mr Drumgold’s days in the witness box during the May public hearings. Each day was riveting as the territory’s chief prosecutor had to be dragged into admitting that he misled a judge, maligned a Liberal minister, failed in his prosecutorial duties, made baseless allegations against police, and was involved in drafting an affidavit that made a false claim in order to withhold material from a defendant facing jail if found guilty of rape.
Mr Drumgold says these were all mistakes, explained as part of our adversarial
criminal justice system. What tosh. This fits the portrait of a man who remains deeply deluded about the import of his misconduct. This lack of self-awareness is dangerous in a DPP.
Even if, contrary to Mr Sofronoff’s findings, Mr Drumgold’s misdeeds were mere mistakes, all the more reason that he should have been removed from this powerful role as soon as the Chief Minister read the report. Andrew Barr knew what was coming. All he needed to do was watch Mr Drumgold’s evidence.
Sacking Mr Drumgold would have signalled that the ACT Labor government expects the person who holds the highest prosecutorial office in the territory to uphold their duties to the very highest standard.
Instead, they allowed Mr Drumgold to resign, with the obvious question of what’s next for their former prosecutor? A financial settlement?
If Mr Drumgold walks away with any kind of financial settlement after this debacle, you have to wonder what it takes to be terminated for misconduct in the ACT. You would also have to ask whether any financial settlement says the ACT government condones his actions. If the government implicitly condones Drumgold’s behaviour, God help any accused person in the ACT.
A curious thing to say if you enjoy being here.
This is from Canada, by Justin Trudeau’s half brother. Senator Roberts is making waves well beyond our shores.
Kyle Kemper
@kylekemper
The swine flu jab rollout was halted in Europe when it became known that there were special batches for VIPs and Government people. Same thing happed with the great plandemic but no halting of distribution. Pfirus execs confirm special batches…
Dr. John Campbell on Senator Canavan in Senate enquiry.
Simple questions for Pfizer
Farage EXPOSES new push for cashless society
Janet is spot on, again.
Exactly my concern regarding defendants without deep pockets or generous benefactors.
For the humble, interactions with the police and DPP are like being slowly crushed by a steam roller, once the machinery of government goes into gear.
They have unlimited funds, time and other resources at their disposal.
And Drumgold had the gall to talk about being a pack outsider growing up.
Luigi, therefore, has one week to declare the date and have it gazetted.
We might have dodged a bullet on the polling.
Jesus Christ what a misguided cuck.
https://www.aap.com.au/news/majority-intend-to-vote-against-the-voice-poll-shows/
Calare MP Andrew Gee, from western NSW, quit the Nationals because of their stance on the upcoming referendum on the Indigenous voice to parliament.
Speaking on a panel at Garma, the Yolngu cultural festival held in northeast Arnhem Land in the Northern Territory, Mr Gee said if the referendum failed the coalition would lose a large swathe of voters and risk losing more seats to so-called teal independents.
“A lot of the entrenched opposition is misguided politics,” he said on Sunday.
“If the conservative side of politics thinks that opposing the voice in the way that they are – for example labelling the voice Orwellian – if people think that is the way to political salvation, they’ve got rocks in their head.
“It’s the road to political ruin.”
Um…it’s basically 55% NO in all States bar QLD and 63% NO in QLD.
The upside is he won’t get elected again and it won’t necessarily be the Nationals who win his seat in the NSW LA.
This is the proposed “Voice”, or what would be s 129 of the Constitution.
129 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice
In recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia:
1. There shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice;
2. The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples;
3. The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its the composition, functions, powers and procedures.
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It is totally unnecessary and just makes the Commonwealth more powerful for the sake of it.
It is true that quite a few rusted on Labor supporters will be voting no but painting the public voting no to the Invoice as likely to see a big swing from the Liberals to the teals?
Actually.
Who cares if it does?
I wonder if Elbow and Linda are drafting homilies/sermons for faith groups to deliver in the run up to the referendum?
He certainly seems to be expecting some thundering from the pulpit.
“Kyle Kemper”
Last I heard, back in 2021, Kyle Kemper moved to the US, not sure which state, to escape his brother’s tyranny.
Good job Dover. Working well. Thank you very much.
Truth…………………..
https://michaelsmithnews.typepad.com/.a/6a0177444b0c2e970d02b751adc838200c-pi
And bonus points: the backing vocalist was Kate Bush.
I can’t wait to tell Alex the Seal.
She also did a little bit for the soundtrack to “brazil’, wasnt used though so its a bit of an oddity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVDOrlugfBI
The sage of the building site is very … sagacious … this morning.
ACT Director of Public Persecutions.
Johnny…those letters are cultural appropriation!
Forgiven on account of accuracy.
Pauline Hanson nails it –
After claims made by Prime Minister Albanese to
@PatsKarvelas
and
@BenFordhamLive
, downplaying Labor’s support for a race-based federal treaty, I thought I would share the following footage of Mr Albanese in the House of Representative saying:
“The voice must be followed by truth-telling, because, until we acknowledge the reality of our history, we are shackled to its demons. And truth must be followed by a makarrata commission. Makarrata is about conflict resolution, justice and, crucially, self-determination. It’s a path to a NATIONAL TREATY that acknowledges the pre-existing rights of people in a land where sovereignty was never ceded and acknowledges that we are on what is Aboriginal land—always was, always will be.”
https://twitter.com/PaulineHansonOz/status/1686857987896508425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1686857987896508425%7Ctwgr%5E1835c20b544b8eeb032f52f36d65e4496d7fc2bf%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.michaelsmithnews.com%2F
Seconded! The blog is now working well for me also.
Best depiction of that mull headed lesso bitch losing the soccer for the US:
https://twitter.com/NautPoso/status/1688174742996447232
Of course he did.
Trump is facing trial for claiming the last presidential election was fraudulent.
Funny how that has suddenly become illegal as the last time the Democrats admitted that a Republican had legitimately been elected president was in 1988.
12 Minutes of Democrats Denying Election Results
This is why we need upticks.
Did a group of hunter gatherers ever have sovereignty in the first place?
A song for Drumgold.
No alteration of the lyrics necessary.
Really quite extraordinary. The other thing to note from the article is that by safe zone what they mean is protecting those working or using the facility from “acts of disapproval”.
Dumbgeld, who grew up in a housing commission estate
This is gettingh roolly annoying .. giving, us, “housos, a bad name they is , Luigi & now Shane ……..Duuuuuuuh!
Luigi & now Shane ….
Don’t forget that cricketer bloke
Australia as you once knew is finished. But you know that. Daily Telegraph:
Sorry but didn’t Mr Joyce happily sign this country up to some net zero bullshit?
The god-oracleness doesn’t seem to be working. No, not at all.
The photocopiers and tea ladies making up the Canberra Village Council acknowledge nothing concrrning Dumkoff. The cycle will be repeated accompanied by costs to the taxpayer as wrongful conviction cases come home.
Canberra demographics dictate that the hell hole will always be run by the lowest grade of public servants playing as pollies.
If democracy ever returns to our Country a referendum to get rid of the ACT obligatory.
This includes the aborigines, no more customary law that allows vile domestic violence and child abuse.
I’m tired of this shit.
So what?
In Dumgeld’s case he spent the first twenty years of his life living with some disadvantage, then the next 35 enjoying more leg-ups than Roy Higgins.
Two year fast-tracked law degree based on concessions for working in an Aboriginal Legal Service, four year International Law Degree including trips overseas (no doubt all on the AbStudy ticket), goes from zero to DPP at world record pace, only taking silk upon reaching the top job.
Please, sir, can I have some of that structural and generational disadvantage too?
Barnaby will have legitimacy objecting to the “swindle” only after he performs a public mea culpa for his support of this same policy when he was the Nationals leader. I would suggest that he prefaces each of these speeches with “I regret supporting this policy in the past and here is why …”
I’m not.
I shit my dacks every time I pass the building site down the road.
That video has obviously been doctored.
The ball couldn’t travel that far in a few seconds.
I call fake noos.
The current batch of housos don’t seem particularly suited to public administration. Perhaps we should try the French model?
Law is a particularly bad field to be 50ish, white and male looking for work. Amongst others.
It would be a travesty if this piece of descriptive prose was left stranded on the dead thread:-
Ah, yes.
Gas pipes to the concentration camps.
“I know a bloke who knows this other bloke whose son works for Big Engineering and has seen the drawings.”
The golden age of Cat paranoia.
Although I always wondered why they were putting air-con in concentration camps.
Bombshell Report Reveals What The FBI Did For The Clintons Behind Closed Doors
The Brittany saga might be a good time to ask whether either of the ACT or NT are sufficiently large to support a full government and the administrative apparatus that entails. Admittedly, the failures in the case do not stem directly from the scale of the various institutions. I would also throw Tasmania in there. But for an accident of history, could be better managed from Melbourne (possibly not at the moment) and at lower cost.
“Former deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce has condemned the rush to renewables as a “great energy swindle” that will see profits going overseas and Australians picking up the bill for higher energy prices.”
Now that’s what you call “chutzpah”. Another swindle” is net zero, a swindle Beetroot happily agreed to back in late 2021.
Barnaby Joyce should STFU.
FYI, Dover: Attempting to summon New Cat via Firefox goes nowhere fast — and it’s getting worse. Last week it was maybe a 15 second delay after clicking on the search result. It grew longer over the weekend (as the actress said to the bishop) and this morning it just times out.
However, switching to the Edge browser encounters no problems whatsoever. Fast access from the search results and spritely refreshing of the page.
Why would Firefox fail? Buggered if I know.
I spent much of my childhood in Housing Commission but it was worse later on a rural backblock ‘farm’. Housing Commission had a certain conviviality to it in the 40’s and 50’s with many British migrants in it. There were problems and scandals, and middle-class people were never seen there, but there was also a sense of community. When our primary school teacher was seen in the street everyone was wondering what she was there for. Living there did carry some stigma and people got out if they could. Some, later, purchased their HC homes on well located land and did well.
I visited our old place in St. Marys a few years ago, the Mt Druitt ‘farm’ is under an expressway now, the bad memories under concrete now. Much of the old HC has been prettied up, but not our old place, which still looks fairly uninviting, as indeed it was. The house next door has been pulled down, just an empty weedy plot now, where memories of the abusive brickie’s labourer who used to live there flooded in as I held Hairy’s hand. Everyone knew he was a wife-beater and his wife confided to my mum that he ‘interfered with’ his daughter. Saddest of all was the ‘backward’ son, who stammered under his father’s constant hammering. My father was a known yeller at us kids, but he wasn’t as bad as that.
Re Albo’s HC background, Hairy as part of the inner-left circle of activists was a visitor to Albo’s HC home back in the 70’s and recalls that it was an OK apartment. He remembers Albo’s nice grandparents being there, and it all seemed fairly ordered, as HC could often be back in those days. Different to today, as I am sure Shaterzzz would agree.
Lots of people grew up poor and disadvantaged outside HC in those days too.
Some of the rural poverty and isolation was extreme, with family violence unchecked. It was one of my mum’s friends’ husbands in the old HC who got us the garage to live in when she felt compelled to leave my father. We were welcomed, for his personality problems were known to the HC crowd. We crept out like fieldmice visiting town one very bad night to land on ‘Uncle George and Auntie Ellen’ in their HC house and their own three kids. Uncle George took us the next morning to the garage in Sydney Street. All of the HC neighbours were called Uncles and Aunties; it’s an old working class thing, not specifically aboriginal at all.
Hi Dover – I use Safari (mostly) and it does take approx. 20 secs plus for the site to load, but once loaded jumping around from page to page or post to post is very quick.
All for your info.
Keep up the terrific work on the site.
I observed the same Firefox vs Edge yesterday.
Not bad, but noticeably slower via Firefox.
A couple of timeouts this morning via Gongle on my Motorola Razr.
This actually re-inserts the words relating to race which the 1967 referendum removed.
This actually re-inserts words relating to race which the 1967 referendum removed.
Mizaris
*uptick*
Correction: Edge browser allowed posting the comment above (now back on Firefox, which loaded after a click on the ‘about’ search result rather than the homepage), but the thread won’t update. Comment is listed on the homepage right column of recent thread posts. But click on it and that comment and many others don’t appear.
OK, OK.
Heard you the first time mizaris.
More like the invoice to parliament.
Dad built fibro houses for the HC back in the 50’s. They were no different to the fibro house he built for Mum and himself, except the HC recipients didn’t have to pay for theirs.
Make that two upticks on account of furious agreement.
Testing.
I have a limited amount of f*cks to give about these “the fire has gone out, the tenk uz umpty” resignations. Especially when the mid-career petit-tyrant goes onto a payout, pension, UN appointment or that old favourite, consultancy to bring business and government ever closer.
check one two check check
Don’t know whether this is relevant Dover but I can’t see any posts between Calli at 11:13 and your test at 12:30.
I’ve never found you testing at all Dover.
Geez, Mizaris.
We don’t want people saying The Cat is an echo chamber!
Error! Errorfest!
Getting a ‘too many redirections’ error message via Edge.
Not a whinge.
Although not now.
Obviously.
(I tried copying and pasting twice more to play that accusation up – but Blog-smarts has undone me.)
Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!
Had a mate who was the chief legal officer in the ACT , not a politician.Nice guy but you would think he had become Pope for all the supposed gravitas around his position in what is a glorified Council.
Almost cracked the code, but be careful. They don’t like to be exposed.
“The Brittany saga might be a good time to ask whether either of the ACT or NT are sufficiently large to support a full government and the administrative apparatus that entails. “
I don’t know if the problem is administration. There are countries in Europe that have smaller populations than the ACT and NT (and TAS), and more than a few are smaller, in terms of geography, than the ACT and NT governments, yet they function quite well in terms of governance. The problem in the ACT and NT is that the governments of these jurisdictions are all afflicted with the same disease that afflicts the likes of the Scottish and Welsh governments. And what disease is that? They are sheltered workshops for far-left loons to promulgate and push their insane ideologies, and let’s face it, it’s working. The ACT far-left government has gifted us the Calvary Hospital requisition and now this Dumgold disaster. A half decent Coalition federal government would sack the ACT government and withdraw it’s self governance., whether that can be done is another issue. The plain truth is that self government has been a gift to the loony left. And it isn’t confined to the ACT or NT, most of our councils have now been captured by the loony left. Perhaps this is why I believe conservatives should begin by targeting local councils.
Wot Cassie sez.
I grumbled loudly, then got redirected to this.
That’s cold, man. Cold.
I don’t know if there is a clue in that.
Sometimes if the shaky finger hits the button twice it returns “Duplicate comment. Stop repeating yourself moron!” warning.
Other times the duplicate post goes through.
Maybe the goalkeeper hamster just isn’t up to it.
The dog is at the vet having a cracked tooth removed.
I’m applying for an evening job stacking shelves at Colesworth to pay for the damage.
Meanwhile, here in Meanjin (or Meaanjin, if you are Brisbane Airport Corporation) the Cat is loading and running as quick as a Canbra payout.
My advice for those with browser problems: lead a clean life.
Go big or go home news….
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-07/yinjibarndi-fortescue-compensation-federal-court-roebourne/102688586
The Yindjibarndi Aboriginal Corporation (YAC) is seeking $500 million a year in compensation from Fortescue (FMG) over its lucrative iron ore operations at the Solomon Hub, due to the “economic and cultural loss” caused by mining.
What economic loss?
The land was generating 200 kangaroos, 10 echidnas and 2000 lizards/little critters a year pre settlement.
That should be what the value is pegged to.
Site was down between 11.15 and my testing comment. Cloudflare wasn’t pointing the site to the VPS but back to the old server; so we had to work out why it wasn’t. We had to delete old links, purge cache in Cloudflare, and some other stuff and bingo, we’re back.
If you’re having problems let me know.
What a coincidence. I walked into a specialist’s reception room in a local hospital at 11am today, checked in, and all receptionists, patients, and doctors were masked.
I went to the room next door which is a cafe, lingered for 15 minutes over a coffee, and went back – only to find not a mask in sight!
The hospital had just declared “masks no longer mandatory”.
I’m so glad to know I could have caught Covid 15 minutes earlier but for the mask mandate, but suddenly couldn’t catch it without a mask.
Why the backflip?
Anyone having access issues with this site using a PC???
I’m not being fanatical here but why shouldn’t Shane Drumgold go to gaol? It would appear that he committed several serious “justice” offences.
The fact is if you or I did these things, we could go to gaol for many, many years and possibly over a decade even as a first-time offender, given the position he had and how judges do not like people not taking them seriously.
Let’s not be vindictive – a multi-tens of millions of dollars payout to Lehrmann, a smaller sum to Reynolds and Higgins otherwise being compelled to pay her inappropriately named “compensation” payout back would be sweet enough – as well as an undertaking by Drumgold never to hold public office or public sector employment (or consultancy) or practise law ever again.
It’s ok…. I cleared cookies and appears to be working now…
Deep and profound apologies for duplicate post.
Currently camped on a beach ~200km from Exmouth with random and intermittent phone signal. I grabs wot I can when the lights flicker, and press buttons madly.
It’s about 27°C atm, water is clear and calm, currently contemplating a dip. Nice place to be in winter.
Well, regardless of what happens to Shane he, at least, won’t need to re-apply for “houso’ …… LOL! ..
Nuttin’ like stuffin’ up & being rewarded .. Oz gummint , whether Fed, state or local, look after their own .. FFS! …….
https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/dpp-to-secure-selffunded-pension-for-life-but-no-payout-after-resigning-from-481864-job/news-story/e92c92e113d3fb091aeffc57e31d8bc0
Good rule of thumb, if you can access a site on one device but not another it will be a caching issue with latter.
Safari on iPhone 13 Mini does not like site, but Brave does, Brave on desktop was trash before; Firefox works fine, I tried posting in the last update by the site admin.
I wonder if Apple has an anti-woke “bigot list” of “enemies”. I cleared caches a week ago and Safari is still kind of crap.
FF on desktop works fine and I don’t clear the cache and have 20+ tabs open at once.
dover0beach
Aug 7, 2023 1:07 PM
an hour ago, about a minute to get to the site.
I have done nothing to my PC and now, instant access.
Thank you.
Same here on Chrome.
Y’all ready for another lockdown!!!!???
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2023/08/06/eg51-nicknamed-eris-is-new-covid-19-variant-spreading-monitored-by-who/
So it makes sense that Australia is against it, given we voted YES overwhelmingly in 1967.
#Meetoo
I’m getting good crisp performance across the site now.
Take note, purging Cloudflare means it will need to reaccess cached items that improve performance for those accessing the site. That may mean that performance now should improve as it caches these items again over the next day or so.
Clear cookies for the site. You can do this for individual sites on Chrome.
Last resort, you can flush dns.
Apologies if posted earlier but I have been offline for a few days:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2023/07/29/chinese-malware-could-cut-power-to-us-military-bases-businesses-and-homes-report-claims/?sh=5e8abbb24aec
These people can GAGF. Virtually everyone is a jabee, has had viral shedding or caught the damned thing. Everyone who survived so far has a minuscule chance of dying from COVID as a putative cause.
No more masks, lockdowns or stupidity.
Basta!
No probs loading now but header pix & titles blank … comments AOK ..
BRAVE on desktop
Dot
and was involved in drafting an affidavit that made a false claim in order to withhold material from a defendant facing jail if found guilty of rape.
This requires jail time on its own.
https://www.australiannationalcharactercheck.com.au/Perjury-Offence-Australian-Capital-Territory-ACT.html
The Offence of Perjury
According to Section 703 of the Criminal Code 2002 (ACT), making a false sworn statement in a legal proceeding is an offence of perjury.
Under this section, the court may find a person guilty of this crime even if they gave the false statement due to their recklessness.
Anyone who commits this offence may receive a maximum penalty of 700 penalty units or seven years imprisonment and sometimes both.
…
Additionally, based on this section, an intermediary can commit the offence of perjury. The law states that it is illegal for an intermediary to communicate a false statement to the court in the process of assisting a witness during a legal proceeding.
The intention behind providing a false statement could be to procure the conviction or release of an individual.
Any intermediary who commits the crime of perjury may receive a maximum of 1400 penalty units or 14 years imprisonment. There are cases where an intermediary may face both penalties.
The penalties that come with an intermediary committing the crime of perjury are more serious. Based on the law when an intermediary commits the offence of perjury, it becomes aggravated.
…
Additional Provisions Regarding Perjury or Aggravated Perjury
The additional provision regarding perjury and aggravated perjury is evident in Section 704 of the Criminal Code 2002 (ACT). This section states that it is irrelevant if the sworn statement materially relates to the legal proceeding or not.
Also, it is insignificant if the court or any other authorised entity had jurisdiction to handle the case when the offender committed the offence.
Furthermore, it is of no consequence whether the individual who made the sworn statement was competent enough to provide evidence during the trial.
However, the court can declare a person not guilty of the crime of perjury or aggravated perjury if they lack competence, as seen in the Evidence Act 2011 (ACT).
Additionally, the court does not concern itself with whether there is a formal defect in the sworn statement.
Under the additional provision regarding perjury or aggravated perjury, a trier of fact can only find a person guilty if they believe such to be true beyond all reasonable doubts.
For the trier of fact to reach a conclusion, this might require that the trier of fact take a close look at the correct and incorrect statement to determine any irreconcilable conflict.
Also, this provision states that a sworn statement based on an ingenuine opinion is false. It also establishes that for a conviction to occur, there may not be a need to corroborate the evidence of perjury or aggravated perjury.
Bottom Line
The offence of perjury can be an obstruction to justice. This is because if the court uses false information, it could wrongly convict an innocent person or acquit someone guilty of an offence.
Based on these reasons, the courts in ACT do not take the crime of perjury lightly. If a person faces charges for this crime, they should seek legal advice.
Plibbers most annoyed. Herald Sun:
Shatterzzzz, let me know if that continues. Sounds like a caching issue.
thefrollickingmole
Aug 7, 2023 12:57 PM
The Yindjibarndi Aboriginal Corporation (YAC) is seeking $500 million a year in compensation from Fortescue (FMG) over its lucrative iron ore operations at the Solomon Hub, due to the “economic and cultural loss” caused by mining.
Yes, and the (former) Cultural Heritage Act are a glimpse into the future under the Voice. If the Voice vote is successful, the demands and impositions will accelerate to the point that business will be utterly beholden to the Aboriginal corporations and their assorted grifters. Governments at every level will fold like a cheap suit. All tied into knots and of course, the ultimate payers will be the consumer.
Not to mention the sheer principle of the thing where there are two ‘classes’ of Australians. And what about Mabo? You can’t have it both ways – either the country was settled in which case land rights exist or it was invaded (as is the current catchcry) and land rights are extinguished. Liars, every one of them. Say whatever suits their agenda on the day.
Welcome to country – an invention from the mid 1970s. Not some ancient ceremony – I’m older than it is.
Just a few weeks ago I saw a Greens Senator saying the Aboriginals had been here for 80,000 (!) years. Truth telling? Yeah, that would be a good idea ‘cos I’ve got a few truths I’d like to tell.
I am so sick of this utter BS.
/rant
May I then suggest Kerri Judd KC?
You are correct mole. I do not want to be vindictive but if the DPP can get away with perjury, then why can’t the PM get away with murder?
What a turn-up for the books. Actual journalism on Channel 7!
As the highest law officer in that jurisdiction he should face the maximum penalties.
There can be no more serious breach of the law than the chap in charge of it willfully and blatantly breaking it.
SB, flashback a few years:
https://www.pilbaranews.com.au/news/pilbara/yindjibarndi-candidates-seek-to-heal-rift-ng-ya-103226
The Yindjibarndi people will have another shot at healing old wounds as they prepare to elect new leaders, and all have expressed a desire to bridge the deep divisions in the community.
So, whose Voice?
“During the National Apology when Peter Dutton walked out, he said Australia would be up for billions of dollars of compensation — never happened,” she said. “After the Mabo and Wik decisions, native title, billions of dollars compensation — never happened.”
Shes a lying mong
High court native title award of $2.53m may open floodgates
Ruling sets precedent that may trigger compensation claims worth billions of dollars from hundreds of applicants
…
and
The biggest native title settlement by land and value in Australia will go ahead in January after the High Court dismissed special leave applications challenging the registration of the agreement.
It was the final legal avenue for a breakaway Noongar group, who were challenging the $1.3 billion South West Native Title Settlement.
Add in hundreds of mining etc claims and billions it is you junkies missus.
I don’t agree.
In 99.99% of cases the accuser remains anonymous.
Ms Higgins is solely responsible for her media spectacular.
Defence lawyers must tread extremely lightly cross examining accusers, and if the judge doesn’t like a question, it doesn’t get asked, the police also go very gently with sexual assault claims.
At least the AFP are prepared to test the validity of the accusation, possibly as the result of the Sarah Jane Parkinson case, other jurisdictions may in practice be already playing progressive games to get the conviction rate up.
The ‘chronic’ problem is you are never going to get a high conviction rate in he said she said and that’s a good thing.
Don’t forget it wasn’t that long ago, even in Australia, the penalty for rape was hanging you don’t get to send people to prison for many years because someone making an accusation is sufficient.
Quite so.
Dumgeld used the “overworked and under pressure” excuse.
I don’t buy that.
Let’s take the Moller report for example.
Taking the correct path of admitting it was a discoverable document and forwarding it to the defence was a two minute job. Constructing the whole charade that it was an AFP privileged document would have consumed some effort. So overwork isn’t an excuse there. You just need to prioritise and, you know, put illegal activity down the list a bit.
As for “pressure”.
The pressure should be to run prosecutions fairly, efficiently and effectively.
No more, no less.
If you are not up for that, piss off. If he is talking about mean girls political pressure, well tell us more.
So the new strain is to be named Eris?
Eris was the Greek goddess of strife, sister of Ares who shares with her a delight in bloodshed.
I mean, if these people want to invoke a response to their tyrannical impulses…
Tanya, that is not what the change says.
Stop it with the b/s. There is no “scare campaign”. It’s actually a “truth campaign”. Which you wouldn’t recognise if you tripped over it and it bit you on the bum.
Labor is desperately trying to dissociate Voice from Treaty and reparations/compensation.
Despite the Uluru participants clearly stated expectation that the Voice is simply a segue to self-determination and compensation, the Government’s narrative model is firmly that the Voice will give advice that the Albanese Government will use to Close the Gap and bring smiles to the communities. This is the basis for both gritted teeth deflection responses by Albanese, Plibbersek and (presumably) the passionate advocacy by people outside the Canbra bubble who appear to believe this.
You’d have to think the chances of an ALP government allowing a parallel system of waddy-justice to flower and handing over $100-$200 billion each year to some unaccountable Indigenous group is slight – for no reason other than the electoral backlash from the non-indigenous voteherd.
The takeaway therefore is that Uncle Luigi is humbugging Team Uluru, bigtime – and expects to force this cheap but cheerful political outcome through the enabling legislation.
Alternatively, to reap the whirlwind from the disenfranchised 95% of the population.
Good heavens. My wife’s mate came around and told us about her entertaining Saturday afternoon which involved a methhead in her house threatening to kill her for hiding her car, which was in the garage.
After more threats, and smashing through a screen door she took him to the garage and locked him in. He proceeded to use her car to attempt to bash down the garage door which had an obvious open switch beside it.
She locked herself in a toilet and called plod who arrived immediately because they were chasing genius and his two hopped up mates who had attempted to rob an IGA conveniently located next to the police station.
We were speechless, but she considered it to have been great sport. No fainting couch for this ‘victim’. Her only carry overs were trying to stop the police agony bimbo from harrasing her about counselling and ensuring that her DIL didn’t find out so that she could avoid being mothered.
Do not cross this woman.
The second quote is from mizaris at 11:06.
From memory, Barr is Old School Labor. Plibbers may have miscalculated.
Compared to the other free to air channels Seven is quite good. They also have other shows people want to watch. It’s a new approach/sarc.
Don’t forget it wasn’t that long ago, even in Australia, the penalty for rape was hanging you don’t get to send people to prison for many years because someone making an accusation is sufficient.
Ive been banned on one occasion at the gruinaid comments for stating if you want heavy penalties (which the majority of people do) then there must be serious legal work to secure convictions.
If you want bulk convictions then the offence must be treated as minor to allow for a “multinova” (almost automatic) level of justice.
You cant have it heavy penalties & “multinova” justice.
Similar to light penalties and serious legal work.
Bons – I like the cut of that ladies jib…
SEVEN Noongars were claiming they hadn’t been properly consulted, and were demanding THIRTY BILLION dollars in compensation!
The crosstabs for the Yes campaign are absolutely terrible. Kos Samaras is trying to spin it as the ‘politics of grievance but when you look at the crosstabs, Yes is getting pounded everywhere. I going to write a post on this for tomorrow. Yes is dead in the water if this research is accurate.
Shatterzzzz, let me know if that continues. Sounds like a caching issue.
I’ve cleared my cache several times .. everything is, now, loading well ..
front page all details/pix appear but blank space between “open thread” & pix title on comments page …….
Natalie has got bigger balls than Kochie ever had. Bunners girl.
Sorry, my memory played me false on the issue of the compensation claim, launched by the group of dissident Noongars……..
Not a bad idea from a poster at CL’s…
dutts should come out and say they’ll do constitutional recognition if voted in so “sit this one out”
Noongar woman Naomi Smith, a lead claimant, said her people had been struggling since European settlement when they lost access to their traditional land.
You live & learn .. LOL! .. I had no idea Twiggy was mining in the suburbs .. always thought his operations were somewhere out in the Pilbara .. where settler type folk never go ……
All this talk of cookies is making me hungry.
Cookies
Mmmmm Cookies.
Did someone mention cookies?
Ive just realised I don’t need drugs to make me silly.
“Old School Labor” is not the same thing as “Nu-Labor”.
See also Peter Baldwin, Gary Johns, Latham and other similar personages.
My daughter tells me I walk 25%+ faster since my last knee operation. No acute pain anymore.
Maybe Mr Drumgold was exhausted by the excess workload involved in his long term battle with the remuneration tribunal arguing for Supreme Court pay parity and a judge’s pension (for himself).
Spot on, Dover at 2.22pm.
I’ve been observing and writing about Australian politics for more than half a century and I’ve never seen a political issue heading for a bigger defeat.
It shouldn’t be a surprise. As weak as it is, Australians hate activists meddling with their Constitution and there is a long record of said activists being told to piss off when the question is asked in referendums.
That Elbow is persisting with the Voice is a commentary not only on his loathing for democracy and mainstream Australia, but on a low IQ where dogma rules.
Mr 32 per cent thinks we’re as dumb as he is.
Browsing a bittorrent audio book site and encountered this gem:
Resistance: How Women Saved Democracy from Donald Trump – Jennifer Rubin
Fun comments from other pirates*,
LMAO
Thank God we “saved” America from DJT…
..Joe Biden has really done wonders for the economy, and the country at large.
Thanks for saving ladies. Now can one of you save me the trouble of getting off the couch & go make me a sandwich. Thanks babe;)
This is going on my bookshelf between How Women Prevented the GW Bush from Starting a War in Iraq and How Women Thwarted the Assassination of JFK.
*I don’t pirate; I offer free off-site data storage and duplication for the legally-purchased files of others.
I don’t debate with people anymore about mad-made climate change in social circles. When the subject does come up, I just come out with it – “You are a brainwashed faaarkin idiot!”
I’ve said it to close friends … and are still friends. I point them to Heller and they have a “Oh f*ck!” moment. Welcome to the party!
—-
Tony Heller:
Climate Fakery Part 20
We’ve just brought Attapuss back from the vets where he’s had his yearly shots. The good news is he’s generally healthy but he has one bad tooth that has to come out, and his teeth need cleaning. That explains his recent extra-fussiness about his food. We’ve booked him in for when we get back from Queensland in two week’s time, and the cost is staggering. Cat and dog dentistry requires a full general anaesthetic and pricey medical skills, drugs and equipment. No wonder people are handing in their pets, unable to afford the cost of them.
Mole> banned likewise from grauniad for gently questioning climate change. Can hand it out but can’t take it the other way …
‘It was the salmon mousse’ news (the Hun):
Pesky local journos spoke to a neighbour:
Tipping Erin’s a big Agatha Christie fan.
Filling in time waiting for an optician appointment I was looking in Harry Hartog books. In the australian section I only recognised 3 authors. Does Thomas Keneally count as an author? 90% by female or those with feminine names.